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Speaker 1: School of Humans. Hello, Welcome to another episode of Cadaver Gals.

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Speaker 1: This is the show where we talk about death, dying

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Speaker 1: in all the weird ways that people die throughout history,

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Speaker 1: to cope with our own mortality. It's not working. It

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Speaker 1: is I one of your three hosts, Nika, along with

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Speaker 1: Gabby Hello and Taylor. Hello. Taylor, I saw you mimicking

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Speaker 1: me as I did the intro, you bitch. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: today we're going to be talking about freezing yourself so

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Speaker 1: you can live on to eternity. Yeah, and why you

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Speaker 1: shouldn't do piggyback rides past the point of ten. As always, obviously,

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Speaker 1: there are trigger warnings. They include falling, head injuries, bodies

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Speaker 1: being destroyed, decapitation, capitalism, and honestly, general death. This one

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Speaker 1: is just very much general death. Yes, que the aligator music, Taylor,

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Speaker 1: I am so excited to hear your story. It hella

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Speaker 1: triggered me while I was researching the tangent, So go

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Speaker 1: ahead please. All right, Well, we've all seen those sci

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Speaker 1: fi tropes of people being cryogenically frozen to preserve themselves

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Speaker 1: to them wake up years later and continue their lives.

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Speaker 1: Turns out you can be cryogenically frozen. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: cool an option for us who knew because I sure didn't.

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Speaker 1: It's really just your body gets frozen and stored. So

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Speaker 1: nobody's been woken up yet, so it's still still not

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Speaker 1: a thing, but it's still a half thing. So people

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Speaker 1: are just getting frozen. They're not getting unfrozen, right, They're

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Speaker 1: being stored, so they're technically qualified as a cemetery, I believe,

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Speaker 1: because it's just bodies, like dead bodies basically, so they're

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Speaker 1: all of the bodies are stored in vessel filled with

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Speaker 1: liquid nitrogen and frozen to negative one hundred ninety six

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Speaker 1: degrees celsius. There are over three hundred people just in

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Speaker 1: the US that are cryagenically frozen. I think there's like

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Speaker 1: fifty or something in Russia. And then there's thousands and

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Speaker 1: thousands of others waiting to be criagenically frozen. So they're

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Speaker 1: waiting to die to them be frozen. Weird. We're all

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Speaker 1: technically waiting to die, but at the same time, they

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Speaker 1: all have hopes of waking back up, and scientists at

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Speaker 1: these facilities believe that in the next fifty to one

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Speaker 1: hundred years that it'll be possible, which like like that's

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Speaker 1: no risk to them because they can just be like, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: fifty one hundred years, like it could be one hundred

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Speaker 1: and like nobody's gonna outlive that or something, you know,

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Speaker 1: So it's like it's dumb. Anyway, what if people like

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Speaker 1: forget about the bodies, you know, like you have to

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Speaker 1: have a lot of institutional like you have to have

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Speaker 1: faith in your business that it will continue going in

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Speaker 1: like a hundred years, so that you can unfreeze people,

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Speaker 1: you know, well exactly. But we will get to how

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Speaker 1: they will stay how they are staying open. We will

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Speaker 1: get to that. Don't you worry, Gabby Terrific. I was worried.

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Speaker 1: I am so scared of getting like sued for slander

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Speaker 1: for talking about this, especially the specific company we're going

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Speaker 1: to get into. But anyway, continue, Yeah, we'll deal with

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Speaker 1: that when it comes. We got good lawyers. You know,

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Speaker 1: I do comedy. I have three friends in comedy who

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Speaker 1: do lawyering too, so you know we're safe. We're good

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Speaker 1: the clown lawyers that I know. Okay, So I do

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Speaker 1: think it's important to point out that all of these

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Speaker 1: people that are frozen, they were frozen after they died,

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Speaker 1: so they no longer exist on this plane of existence, okay,

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Speaker 1: like rather than like deciding like okay, I'm done, I

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Speaker 1: want to pause my life now, be frozen, and then

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Speaker 1: be woken back up. So seemingly there's really no risk, right,

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Speaker 1: because it's just a different way of preserving a body.

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Speaker 1: And then there's also another reason why there's no risk

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Speaker 1: up like best case scenario, or it won't and they're

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Speaker 1: already dead, so it doesn't really matter. Okay, okay, but

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Speaker 1: here's the scenario I thought of. It works and they

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Speaker 1: and so you're just in pain, half dead, half alive.

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Speaker 1: In one hundred years from now. You don't even know

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Speaker 1: the times. You don't know the lingo, you don't know

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Speaker 1: the slang. You're just like I'm dead. You'll be confused.

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Speaker 1: Even worse, you won't know the fashion, like what if

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Speaker 1: you look bad? That's the worst part of it all, Yes,

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Speaker 1: easily the worst part. So I wanted to tell you

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Speaker 1: about one individual in particular who has been cryogenically frozen

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Speaker 1: because her story is the most unique to me. I

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Speaker 1: just it spoke to me this is about a woman

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Speaker 1: named Dora Kent. And there are quite a few companies

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Speaker 1: but this one in particular we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: is Alcor, and that is where Dora is chilling today. Chilling.

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Speaker 1: I knew you would love that. Wait, is it Alcor

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Speaker 1: or al Gore? Alcor? Please do not confuse with al Gore.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how al Gore would feel about all this.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get sued on both ends. Now, great, I

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Speaker 1: confident I can. All Right, Taylor, Sorry you interrupted me. Okay.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty seven, Dora was eighty three years old

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Speaker 1: and she was, you know, starting to get sickly, and

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Speaker 1: then she got pneumonia. Knew that death was knocking on

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Speaker 1: post mortem. Obviously, the less time for the body deteriorate.

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Speaker 1: The better. But we only assume that because we don't

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Speaker 1: really know she was still alive when she was taken,

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Speaker 1: she was still alive when she arrived. So spoiler alert,

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Speaker 1: Dora expires at the facility. But the problem is there

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Speaker 1: they declared her dad, move forward with the freezing process. Well.

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Speaker 1: Side note, At al Core, you have the option for

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Speaker 1: a whole body or a neurocryo preservation, meaning you can

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Speaker 1: either preserve your whole body or just your head. So

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Speaker 1: not all companies do this, but the idea here is

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Speaker 1: believe that everything exists in your brain, and so you

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Speaker 1: can just have like some other kind of vessel to

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Speaker 1: like take move you forward through life when you look.

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Speaker 1: I read about this too, and there's another scientific theory

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Speaker 1: but continue. I mean, I feel like Jesus lives in

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Speaker 1: with you? Now? He might be in your brain. Who knows, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we don't really know. Nobody's ever found Jesus in your

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Speaker 1: their hearts. That day I have Okay, speak for yourself, Taylor.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Okay, it's a creep. I'm just like, get

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Speaker 1: out of there. Jesus, that's no the other church. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The other good thing about just doing the neuro crier

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Speaker 1: preservation is it's less space, less maintenance. Therefore it costs us.

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Speaker 1: So let's go back to Dora. But the guy get

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Speaker 1: very suspicious. But he's like, I guess he knows about

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Speaker 1: it's like she died because her head was chopped off. No,

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Speaker 1: and Alcore is like no, They're like no, that's that's

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Speaker 1: croygenically freezing. Eventually, the coroner settles and he admits to wrongdoing,

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Speaker 1: So anyway, ALCOR has like this whole story on their website,

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Speaker 1: not saying that's what Alcor is doing. That's just something

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Speaker 1: I had a vegetarian burrito that day, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that exactly. Well, I mean, you need all information when

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Speaker 1: because maybe it was that vegetarian burrito that means something.

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Speaker 1: There's two ways that I can kind of think about it.

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Speaker 1: One is like, Okay, calm down, we don't need to

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Speaker 1: much that I remember everything down to the burrito. You know, so,

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Speaker 1: but yes, But the more I read, I was like,

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Speaker 1: this feels a little culty to me. What ban crygenically

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Speaker 1: that doesn't That's fine. You should do what you want

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Speaker 1: Like the person who dies, like you should be able

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Speaker 1: And I totally believe that. And if they want to

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Speaker 1: But it's a pretty thin line with me without core.

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Speaker 1: feels blurry in your brain. I like to ask that

422
00:24:31,125 --> 00:24:35,405
Speaker 1: your brain like knocks around in your skull. Yeah. Yeah, um,

423
00:24:35,605 --> 00:24:39,965
Speaker 1: I think that's called a concussion. No, because that's based

424
00:24:40,005 --> 00:24:42,485
Speaker 1: on no, that is, if you have like blurred vision,

425
00:24:42,605 --> 00:24:45,925
Speaker 1: a mild one. Nonetheless, But now we understand what's wrong

426
00:24:45,925 --> 00:24:49,845
Speaker 1: with Nika. She's she stopping. But I feel so dumb.

427
00:24:49,885 --> 00:24:52,125
Speaker 1: The last time that happened to me was when not

428
00:24:52,285 --> 00:24:53,925
Speaker 1: to make it about me, but also the last time

429
00:24:53,965 --> 00:24:55,765
Speaker 1: that happened to me was when I was working front

430
00:24:55,805 --> 00:24:58,045
Speaker 1: desk at a tennis center of all places. This was

431
00:24:58,085 --> 00:25:01,645
Speaker 1: like five years ago, I think, and the front desk

432
00:25:02,405 --> 00:25:10,005
Speaker 1: desk was oh boy, maybe I do have a cons sure. Yes, Also,

433
00:25:10,125 --> 00:25:13,685
Speaker 1: concussions are contagious, so you might have gotten okay, gotcha.

434
00:25:14,085 --> 00:25:16,765
Speaker 1: I the desk was made of marble, like hard marble,

435
00:25:17,085 --> 00:25:18,965
Speaker 1: and I went down to pick something up, and then

436
00:25:19,005 --> 00:25:22,285
Speaker 1: a customer came in, and I like went up super

437
00:25:22,365 --> 00:25:25,685
Speaker 1: quickly because I care about my job, and I hit

438
00:25:25,845 --> 00:25:30,285
Speaker 1: my head against like the bottom of the marble extremely hard.

439
00:25:31,845 --> 00:25:34,205
Speaker 1: I mean, it's fine. I just love sharing like head

440
00:25:34,405 --> 00:25:36,685
Speaker 1: like head injury stories because I think everyone can remember

441
00:25:36,725 --> 00:25:38,525
Speaker 1: the last time that they hit their head really really hard,

442
00:25:38,685 --> 00:25:41,045
Speaker 1: unless you fall into a coma and then you can't. Yes,

443
00:25:41,285 --> 00:25:45,205
Speaker 1: when you're in a coma, you cannot tell cool stories unfortunately,

444
00:25:46,245 --> 00:25:48,085
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think it sounds like you had

445
00:25:48,125 --> 00:25:51,045
Speaker 1: a concussion because you can even you know, those milder

446
00:25:51,125 --> 00:25:56,925
Speaker 1: symptoms of brain fog memory brief memory loss, and another

447
00:25:56,925 --> 00:26:00,565
Speaker 1: big symptom side effect is like being nauseated. Um so

448
00:26:00,685 --> 00:26:02,285
Speaker 1: for I head for about a day and a half,

449
00:26:02,325 --> 00:26:05,325
Speaker 1: I was nauseated and couldn't really eat and I couldn't

450
00:26:05,365 --> 00:26:07,565
Speaker 1: like turn in my bed. I felt pretty pathetic, and

451
00:26:07,605 --> 00:26:08,965
Speaker 1: then just the pain in the front of my head.

452
00:26:09,005 --> 00:26:12,485
Speaker 1: It was really bad. So I was like, obviously, what

453
00:26:12,565 --> 00:26:14,565
Speaker 1: I should do for this week is you know, look

454
00:26:14,605 --> 00:26:18,445
Speaker 1: at falling and when does falling become dangerous? Because I

455
00:26:18,485 --> 00:26:22,765
Speaker 1: feel like such a goddamn fool. Okay, because I was

456
00:26:22,765 --> 00:26:26,205
Speaker 1: getting a piggyback ride. I'm almost thirty, and I've realized

457
00:26:26,205 --> 00:26:29,285
Speaker 1: it's not your fault. But I'm just saying, at almost

458
00:26:29,285 --> 00:26:33,365
Speaker 1: at age thirty, not even once, no more piggyback rides,

459
00:26:33,445 --> 00:26:36,565
Speaker 1: but we're not doing them anymore. And I did find

460
00:26:36,605 --> 00:26:40,605
Speaker 1: this story about this was in a in destin, Florida,

461
00:26:40,725 --> 00:26:43,365
Speaker 1: So this is, you know, a similar situation to mine.

462
00:26:43,405 --> 00:26:47,125
Speaker 1: A woman very playfully asked her husband for a piggyback

463
00:26:47,245 --> 00:26:50,205
Speaker 1: ride and she gets up on a little chair to

464
00:26:50,325 --> 00:26:53,205
Speaker 1: like go get on his back, but then she missed

465
00:26:53,645 --> 00:26:57,485
Speaker 1: and she fell eighteen stories from their balcony and died.

466
00:26:58,485 --> 00:27:01,885
Speaker 1: What what you're going to say she had a concussion?

467
00:27:03,565 --> 00:27:06,485
Speaker 1: What Nope, that was a pig back ride that went

468
00:27:06,725 --> 00:27:11,485
Speaker 1: super wrong. So never piggyback ride, not even once. And

469
00:27:11,565 --> 00:27:13,445
Speaker 1: I was so I was looking more into falls because

470
00:27:13,485 --> 00:27:15,405
Speaker 1: I do think it's like, I mean, you'll see the

471
00:27:15,445 --> 00:27:19,165
Speaker 1: infomercials like help I fallen and I can't get up

472
00:27:19,205 --> 00:27:21,285
Speaker 1: for you know, the elderly getting the button so people

473
00:27:21,325 --> 00:27:23,325
Speaker 1: can come and like make get them off the floor

474
00:27:23,325 --> 00:27:25,445
Speaker 1: and stuff. And I was just like, when, at what

475
00:27:25,565 --> 00:27:27,965
Speaker 1: point in your life does a fall become like, oh, no,

476
00:27:28,085 --> 00:27:31,205
Speaker 1: she fell versus just like oh I fell over, you know,

477
00:27:31,445 --> 00:27:34,445
Speaker 1: versus laughing at the person for falling exactly, you know,

478
00:27:34,805 --> 00:27:36,685
Speaker 1: because at some point of fall, I feel like it

479
00:27:36,725 --> 00:27:40,525
Speaker 1: just gets very serious. I feel like I've fallen recently,

480
00:27:40,605 --> 00:27:48,525
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, shoot, why I think it is.

481
00:27:48,565 --> 00:27:51,605
Speaker 1: I think it is kind of like around age thirty,

482
00:27:51,645 --> 00:27:54,245
Speaker 1: but really it's more around the statistics of when falls

483
00:27:54,245 --> 00:27:57,245
Speaker 1: get dramatically worse is after the age of sixty five.

484
00:27:57,445 --> 00:27:59,645
Speaker 1: So I mean thirty and sixty five, is there much

485
00:27:59,645 --> 00:28:01,925
Speaker 1: of a difference, tailor you tell me you're the oldest

486
00:28:01,925 --> 00:28:05,965
Speaker 1: one here. M my gosh. You know, I find that

487
00:28:06,005 --> 00:28:08,805
Speaker 1: I'm grunting when I sit down or getting back up.

488
00:28:08,845 --> 00:28:12,565
Speaker 1: You know, you're just grunting because you're enjoying it. Okay,

489
00:28:12,965 --> 00:28:19,885
Speaker 1: So falling is the second most common accidental death in

490
00:28:19,925 --> 00:28:26,405
Speaker 1: the world. So guess what the first one is? Car accidents?

491
00:28:26,485 --> 00:28:31,325
Speaker 1: Good guess terrific Our brains all went. We pause. We

492
00:28:31,445 --> 00:28:34,485
Speaker 1: all just looked like we had a concussion. I know, honestly,

493
00:28:34,525 --> 00:28:39,725
Speaker 1: I was thinking like sex deaths or something like that,

494
00:28:39,765 --> 00:28:44,965
Speaker 1: but those are actually very highly publicized. Yeah, so falling

495
00:28:45,085 --> 00:28:48,525
Speaker 1: is really it's the sec after car accidents. And so

496
00:28:48,685 --> 00:28:53,685
Speaker 1: over one million Americans suffer a slip, trip and fall injury,

497
00:28:53,685 --> 00:28:56,245
Speaker 1: and over seventeen thousand people die a year in the

498
00:28:56,365 --> 00:29:00,885
Speaker 1: US because of these injuries, and the vast majority of

499
00:29:00,925 --> 00:29:03,725
Speaker 1: them come from people. I think it's like more than

500
00:29:03,805 --> 00:29:06,485
Speaker 1: half of them happen with people who above sixty five

501
00:29:06,805 --> 00:29:10,325
Speaker 1: years or older. And there's a lot of different you know,

502
00:29:10,885 --> 00:29:12,925
Speaker 1: if like, there's a lot of different things that will

503
00:29:13,005 --> 00:29:16,405
Speaker 1: determine like how bad your fall is. But basically with aging.

504
00:29:16,405 --> 00:29:18,325
Speaker 1: I mean the risk is basically you know, the higher

505
00:29:18,685 --> 00:29:21,805
Speaker 1: in age you get, um, the risk level increases because

506
00:29:21,805 --> 00:29:25,285
Speaker 1: of physical, sensory and other cognitive changes just you know,

507
00:29:25,285 --> 00:29:28,405
Speaker 1: mostly associated with aging. But then that's also in combination

508
00:29:28,685 --> 00:29:32,285
Speaker 1: with like just our world isn't built for older people,

509
00:29:32,365 --> 00:29:36,205
Speaker 1: so you know, there's there's like some ableism within our

510
00:29:36,325 --> 00:29:38,885
Speaker 1: environments too. And I think the other interesting thing is

511
00:29:38,885 --> 00:29:42,005
Speaker 1: that it's like most of the falls are happening in

512
00:29:43,085 --> 00:29:45,685
Speaker 1: more low income countries. Like it's kind of like eighty

513
00:29:45,685 --> 00:29:48,285
Speaker 1: percent of like the fatal falls just because I guess

514
00:29:48,285 --> 00:29:51,525
Speaker 1: it's just like the environments or have made it so

515
00:29:51,565 --> 00:29:54,925
Speaker 1: that it is easier easier to fall in these environments.

516
00:29:55,525 --> 00:29:59,205
Speaker 1: So another interesting thing to think about, like income and

517
00:29:59,685 --> 00:30:04,005
Speaker 1: falling that relationship. But if there's a direct correlation, ha

518
00:30:04,125 --> 00:30:08,045
Speaker 1: ha ha ha, I love it. No, that's really messed up, thinks.

519
00:30:08,365 --> 00:30:11,845
Speaker 1: I feel like Gabby always brings up the real world. Wow,

520
00:30:12,245 --> 00:30:19,525
Speaker 1: this place sucks, but we can make it better. Um, together,

521
00:30:19,765 --> 00:30:22,845
Speaker 1: we can make a difference. That's why it's good to

522
00:30:22,845 --> 00:30:25,325
Speaker 1: get cryogenically frozen now and let other people make it

523
00:30:25,365 --> 00:30:27,525
Speaker 1: better and then come back. But also I mean, in general,

524
00:30:27,565 --> 00:30:30,645
Speaker 1: for fall prevention. You should do maybe some like good

525
00:30:30,685 --> 00:30:33,405
Speaker 1: back and abex or sizes so that you can get

526
00:30:33,445 --> 00:30:37,205
Speaker 1: a good sense of balance and what else. Yeah, I

527
00:30:37,205 --> 00:30:39,565
Speaker 1: mean for older people, they're saying some tie cheek gets

528
00:30:39,565 --> 00:30:41,565
Speaker 1: some flexibility in there, because you got to make sure

529
00:30:41,565 --> 00:30:43,725
Speaker 1: your body is good so that you don't fall. What

530
00:30:43,725 --> 00:30:46,245
Speaker 1: do you do for like stairs though, like if you

531
00:30:46,285 --> 00:30:49,525
Speaker 1: slip on a stair? Okay, well this this gets into

532
00:30:49,565 --> 00:30:52,645
Speaker 1: another thing, is another thing of determining how bad your

533
00:30:52,645 --> 00:30:54,245
Speaker 1: fault it's going to be. It's going to be height

534
00:30:54,365 --> 00:30:59,085
Speaker 1: and how you land. So with how you land, obviously

535
00:30:59,165 --> 00:31:01,405
Speaker 1: it's kind of recommended make sure you just don't fall

536
00:31:01,445 --> 00:31:03,525
Speaker 1: on your head, you know, because then that is what

537
00:31:03,805 --> 00:31:06,205
Speaker 1: is most likely going to lead to most fatal falls,

538
00:31:06,445 --> 00:31:09,325
Speaker 1: is falling on your heads. So from horseback aardi, they

539
00:31:09,325 --> 00:31:11,525
Speaker 1: always teach you like if you like you always kind

540
00:31:11,565 --> 00:31:13,525
Speaker 1: of know when you're about to fall off, there's it's

541
00:31:13,845 --> 00:31:16,485
Speaker 1: usually you see it coming kind of they say, like

542
00:31:16,605 --> 00:31:18,685
Speaker 1: you know, you got to like protect your head, Like

543
00:31:18,725 --> 00:31:22,085
Speaker 1: that's gabby, how did you fall from your from your

544
00:31:22,125 --> 00:31:25,365
Speaker 1: piggyback fall? Just like right on my head like the

545
00:31:25,365 --> 00:31:28,805
Speaker 1: back of your mouth. So here's what had happened. So

546
00:31:28,845 --> 00:31:32,445
Speaker 1: with my special friend. He had grabbed my legs securely,

547
00:31:32,485 --> 00:31:34,325
Speaker 1: but I didn't grab the top, So then I just

548
00:31:34,365 --> 00:31:38,285
Speaker 1: like hell back, like pivoting. So yeah, I'm picturing that

549
00:31:38,325 --> 00:31:41,005
Speaker 1: in my brain and I hate it. Yeah That's why

550
00:31:41,085 --> 00:31:42,845
Speaker 1: I'm like this now. And I'm going to use this

551
00:31:42,925 --> 00:31:47,645
Speaker 1: concussion excuse for a long time. Guys. So Gabby, you

552
00:31:47,685 --> 00:31:49,845
Speaker 1: already used excuses. I remember when we went to the

553
00:31:49,885 --> 00:31:52,685
Speaker 1: beach and Gabby literally cooked once out of like the

554
00:31:52,725 --> 00:31:54,565
Speaker 1: whole week. I will always bring this up out of

555
00:31:54,565 --> 00:31:56,485
Speaker 1: the whole week. Gabby cooked once. You know what she

556
00:31:56,525 --> 00:32:00,925
Speaker 1: fucking cooked frozen pizza. Hey, my excuses, I am My

557
00:32:01,005 --> 00:32:03,165
Speaker 1: mom spoiled me too much as a kid, so I

558
00:32:03,205 --> 00:32:05,685
Speaker 1: never had It's okay because I have a thing like

559
00:32:05,725 --> 00:32:07,925
Speaker 1: I have to be constantly serving people. So it actually

560
00:32:07,965 --> 00:32:14,285
Speaker 1: worked out great. Yeah, exactly serve me. So. Height basically

561
00:32:14,645 --> 00:32:17,365
Speaker 1: based on like studies, they're saying that if you fall

562
00:32:17,645 --> 00:32:20,605
Speaker 1: from a height of above one hundred feet, that is

563
00:32:20,605 --> 00:32:23,485
Speaker 1: a fatal fall and there is really no way to survive.

564
00:32:24,165 --> 00:32:27,125
Speaker 1: It's also determines, you know, the quality of the impact surface.

565
00:32:27,165 --> 00:32:31,165
Speaker 1: So if you're falling on cement on the sidewalk, bad news.

566
00:32:31,605 --> 00:32:33,285
Speaker 1: But you know, if you're like, if you fall and

567
00:32:33,325 --> 00:32:35,765
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of trampolines, you know, that's obviously like

568
00:32:37,205 --> 00:32:40,765
Speaker 1: the rate of your falling, So you know, just those

569
00:32:40,805 --> 00:32:43,445
Speaker 1: trampoline surfaces that be around that just happened to be

570
00:32:43,485 --> 00:32:46,925
Speaker 1: there sometimes. But there are a couple cases of like

571
00:32:47,045 --> 00:32:49,405
Speaker 1: people who have survived falls that are more than one

572
00:32:49,445 --> 00:32:52,565
Speaker 1: hundred feet. Like there's this one woman who was rock

573
00:32:52,565 --> 00:32:56,605
Speaker 1: climbing with her boyfriend and she fell three hundred feet

574
00:32:56,685 --> 00:33:00,005
Speaker 1: and she survived. That's intense because of how she fell.

575
00:33:00,125 --> 00:33:04,085
Speaker 1: She only suffered like a mild traumatic brain injury, but yes,

576
00:33:04,125 --> 00:33:06,965
Speaker 1: like most of her bones were broken, Like her pelvis

577
00:33:07,045 --> 00:33:09,605
Speaker 1: was totally out of place. They had to like, you know,

578
00:33:09,725 --> 00:33:11,285
Speaker 1: put a lot of stints in there. Her spine was

579
00:33:11,325 --> 00:33:14,325
Speaker 1: really messed up. But she ended up surviving. And the

580
00:33:14,405 --> 00:33:21,245
Speaker 1: person who's actually survived the highest fall is bonkers. Guess

581
00:33:21,245 --> 00:33:23,445
Speaker 1: how far she fell from I mean like a thousand

582
00:33:23,485 --> 00:33:27,325
Speaker 1: feet or something. Oh no, I don't know. Thirty three

583
00:33:27,325 --> 00:33:32,165
Speaker 1: thousand feet out of an airplane what? Yeah, this was

584
00:33:32,245 --> 00:33:37,285
Speaker 1: in Serbia. She was a Serbian flight attendant and they

585
00:33:37,405 --> 00:33:41,205
Speaker 1: were flying home and they're pretty sure someone had placed

586
00:33:41,245 --> 00:33:44,485
Speaker 1: a bomb in one of the bags on the flight.

587
00:33:44,845 --> 00:33:48,285
Speaker 1: It blew up, the plane crash, but she had fallen

588
00:33:48,405 --> 00:33:50,805
Speaker 1: and they're thinking that she was able to survive that

589
00:33:50,885 --> 00:33:53,525
Speaker 1: impact because she was somehow like squeezed between the wall

590
00:33:53,845 --> 00:33:56,845
Speaker 1: and like the food cart and somehow that prevented her

591
00:33:57,245 --> 00:34:00,525
Speaker 1: from dying. But yes, most of her bones were broken, obviously,

592
00:34:00,965 --> 00:34:05,085
Speaker 1: but you know, everyone else died, but she survived. She

593
00:34:05,165 --> 00:34:07,525
Speaker 1: went down, the plane went down, She went down with

594
00:34:07,565 --> 00:34:11,605
Speaker 1: a plane, and then she was the only survivor. That's traumatic,

595
00:34:11,845 --> 00:34:16,925
Speaker 1: it is anyway, you've traumatized me, Gabby. So yeah, I'm

596
00:34:17,005 --> 00:34:21,685
Speaker 1: keeping my feet firmly on the ground. Oh my gosh. Okay, well,

597
00:34:22,325 --> 00:34:26,085
Speaker 1: thank you for sharing this deeply personal story. I hope

598
00:34:26,085 --> 00:34:29,085
Speaker 1: you thank you too. Triggered, and I hope that you

599
00:34:29,165 --> 00:34:33,245
Speaker 1: continue your recovery process. Up next, we're going to be

600
00:34:33,285 --> 00:34:38,445
Speaker 1: talking about more concussions and head injuries and just get

601
00:34:38,485 --> 00:34:44,885
Speaker 1: a little bit more traumatized. Be right back, Yeah, okay,

602
00:34:44,925 --> 00:34:47,845
Speaker 1: so we're back. As I said, I have sworn off

603
00:34:47,845 --> 00:34:52,405
Speaker 1: piggyback rides or anything airborne because that is just terrifying.

604
00:34:52,725 --> 00:34:56,925
Speaker 1: So as we all know, obviously Gabby had her concussion,

605
00:34:56,965 --> 00:35:00,245
Speaker 1: and it makes me wonder, oh my gosh, what if

606
00:35:00,405 --> 00:35:03,285
Speaker 1: Gabby head, you know. I mean, you didn't fall into

607
00:35:03,325 --> 00:35:05,325
Speaker 1: a coma. But first of all, what if Gabby would

608
00:35:05,325 --> 00:35:07,245
Speaker 1: have into a coma? We would all be really sad.

609
00:35:07,645 --> 00:35:10,245
Speaker 1: Second question is what if Gabby would have fallen into

610
00:35:10,245 --> 00:35:14,645
Speaker 1: a coma and woken up with some crazy new talent.

611
00:35:15,365 --> 00:35:18,325
Speaker 1: That would have been cool. It hasn't happened just yet,

612
00:35:18,365 --> 00:35:21,125
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm waiting for a new skill because you know,

613
00:35:21,125 --> 00:35:24,045
Speaker 1: I hit the brain. Certainly something's been jumbled up, you know,

614
00:35:24,405 --> 00:35:27,765
Speaker 1: one would hope. So, oh, maybe I'm good at chess.

615
00:35:27,845 --> 00:35:30,925
Speaker 1: I haven't played chess, so let's play chess later. Great,

616
00:35:31,245 --> 00:35:33,125
Speaker 1: and I can be like the Queen's gambit and have

617
00:35:33,125 --> 00:35:35,725
Speaker 1: a cool haircut. I actually love chess, so yes, Also,

618
00:35:35,725 --> 00:35:39,725
Speaker 1: you already have a cool haircut. Um. Thanks, that sounded

619
00:35:39,845 --> 00:35:47,125
Speaker 1: so sarcastic. You know you do? She does? I love? Okay, Well,

620
00:35:47,125 --> 00:35:49,885
Speaker 1: it's just I know because apparently my hairdresser, after I

621
00:35:49,925 --> 00:35:52,085
Speaker 1: went viral and TikTok, some people had reached out to

622
00:35:52,085 --> 00:35:56,765
Speaker 1: her to see how she does my hair. Oh I'm

623
00:35:56,805 --> 00:36:00,045
Speaker 1: kind of I'm kind of jealous, you sat um, I

624
00:36:00,085 --> 00:36:04,325
Speaker 1: will say. When I talked to Gabby over like video

625
00:36:04,325 --> 00:36:06,965
Speaker 1: call for our meat, and she was in bed, she

626
00:36:07,085 --> 00:36:10,685
Speaker 1: looked so good as like a sickly Victorian concussion relation

627
00:36:10,805 --> 00:36:13,165
Speaker 1: in bed. I was like, I would not look like

628
00:36:13,245 --> 00:36:17,085
Speaker 1: that if I had a concussion, Like fuck Gabby. So

629
00:36:18,045 --> 00:36:21,325
Speaker 1: obviously Gabby has not awoken with some you know, inn

630
00:36:21,565 --> 00:36:29,365
Speaker 1: oulently suddenly she's still stobby um and we love her

631
00:36:29,725 --> 00:36:32,485
Speaker 1: so But this guy, this um sixteen year old boy

632
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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen in Atlanta, atl Hoe got a concussion

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Speaker 1: during a soccer game and went into a coma. And

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Speaker 1: when he woke up from the coma, he spoke fluent

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Speaker 1: Spanish and had no recollection of the English language at all.

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Speaker 1: It's insane, It's not insane. And every time he would

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Speaker 1: speak English he would have a seizure, which is terrible.

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Speaker 1: Oh terrible, by the way, that's just horrifying. So this

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Speaker 1: happened for a couple of weeks, and eventually he kind

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Speaker 1: of started not forgetting Spanish, because when they interviewed him

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks later, he could still speak fluent Spanish,

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Speaker 1: but he started remembering English again and starting to answer

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Speaker 1: in like his first language. But I found that fascinating

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Speaker 1: and I started reading about it, and it turns out

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Speaker 1: there's like two terms for this depending on what happens

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Speaker 1: to you. So one is, if a person wakes up

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Speaker 1: after a coma speaking in a foreign accent, that's called

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00:37:23,765 --> 00:37:28,845
Speaker 1: foreign accent syndrome, very creative name. But if they wake

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Speaker 1: up speaking a different language, that's called bilingual aphasia. And

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Speaker 1: I just found that a little bit bananas. So the

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Speaker 1: best way to explain what happened to this boy, which

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Speaker 1: is bilingual aphasia, is that this is just so crazy.

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Speaker 1: The brain is so insane. The brain stores your first

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Speaker 1: language like it's a motor skill, and so it goes

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Speaker 1: into a specific part of your brain where like walking goes,

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Speaker 1: or like I don't know, eating breakfast with tools goes,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, drilled to eat my eggs, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? What are they called? I don't know, silverware? Yes, okay.

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Speaker 1: And then the second language is that you're trying to learn,

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Speaker 1: or that you have already learned, get stored in a

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Speaker 1: different part of your brain. And so when you wake

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Speaker 1: up from a coma or a concussion, because as Scabby said,

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Speaker 1: your brain is humbled up, the first language part of

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Speaker 1: your brain could be affected, and so your brain will

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Speaker 1: go to the other part of your brain where You're

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Speaker 1: storing the second language and piece things together, and next

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Speaker 1: thing you know, you're using the second language because that's

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Speaker 1: all your brain can insane, But is it like how

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Speaker 1: does that make no sense? Tailor how does that make

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Speaker 1: no sense? No? No, I mean but like where how

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Speaker 1: did that language get? The second language get into his brain? Like?

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Speaker 1: Has you just heard it enough? He was, he was

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Speaker 1: learning it. Okay, this makes me feel good that maybe

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Speaker 1: I am better because I took French for probably like

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Speaker 1: ten years and technically minor didn't and I'm still pretty

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Speaker 1: bad at French. But maybe my brain knows French better

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Speaker 1: than I think it does. Have you tried trying to

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Speaker 1: get like getting a coma, No no, no speaking French

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Speaker 1: since you had your concussion jador la croissante Marcy, It's

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Speaker 1: pretty average, you know, Okay? I was expecting like some

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Speaker 1: flowing French to come out of you suddenly. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so everyone that this has happened too, they were either

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Speaker 1: around the second language that they woke up speaking or

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Speaker 1: were studying it casually. One of the craziest stories that

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Speaker 1: I found is this english woman went into a coma

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Speaker 1: and woke up speaking fluent French and the last time

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Speaker 1: that she had studied French was thirty years prior to

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Speaker 1: the coma and in the interview, it's so funny to

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Speaker 1: me in the interview, the headline of the interview is,

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Speaker 1: I studied French thirty years ago. I have no desire

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Speaker 1: to even visit France. Like, okay, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: like be mean about friends. But yeah, she woke up

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Speaker 1: speaking fluent French, didn't know English, and then after a

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Speaker 1: few weeks, went back to English, and the same thing

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Speaker 1: happened to like this Croatian girl. She woke up speaking

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Speaker 1: fluent German. She was studying German at the time and

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Speaker 1: was watching like German series to try to like learn better.

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Speaker 1: She was a twenty four hour coma and after she

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Speaker 1: woke up she spoke fluent German, which is just insane,

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Speaker 1: so super rare, really bananas phenomenon. Could you imagine if

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Speaker 1: you could just access all parts of your brain, because

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Speaker 1: if it's there, I know, right like I have. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I similarly to Gabby, I have literally spent years in

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Speaker 1: and out of like learning French, and I just wish

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Speaker 1: I could. I Mean, I'm not wishing a comma myself, obviously,

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Speaker 1: but I just wish them like I could access that

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Speaker 1: part of my brain and tell my brain to piece

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Speaker 1: it together already, I know, but you could be trialangle exactly.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't it suck if you like woke up as like

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Speaker 1: a white person and then you like, we're doing a

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Speaker 1: really offensive accent. Well, you know that has happened to people.

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Speaker 1: So the foreign accent syndrome, Oh no, it's so weird

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Speaker 1: because people have woken up like a white person, for example,

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Speaker 1: has woken up speaking in a French accent or like, um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know a Latin person who woke up speaking

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Speaker 1: in a German accent like so random, And according to experts,

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Speaker 1: it's not that like they're taking the accent from the culture.

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Speaker 1: It's just that the way that their mouth and their

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Speaker 1: motor skills are like producing words sounds like this accent,

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Speaker 1: and so we associate it with a German accent or

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Speaker 1: like a French accent or whatever. But in reality, it's

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Speaker 1: just that they're like their brains cannot make the sounds

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Speaker 1: that they used to make, and so it sounds like

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Speaker 1: an accent, but it's not really like actually region specific, Hope, Banana,

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Speaker 1: It's like it sounds like you have an accent. It's

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Speaker 1: just because your mouth's not working. I mean, yes, that

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Speaker 1: is essentially what it is, which I find so bizarre

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Speaker 1: and strange. That is so strange and so interesting. I

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Speaker 1: want to figure out how to access the rest of

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Speaker 1: my brain. If I could do that, then I would

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Speaker 1: be so rich because then I could tell everyone how

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Speaker 1: to do it, and everybody would be intelligent. It would

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Speaker 1: be great. I'm pretty sure that's what the that's what

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Speaker 1: alcor is doing. Yeah, but I think there's a movie

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Speaker 1: where they do that, and like they take a pill

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Speaker 1: and they can accus all of their brains. I think

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Speaker 1: that m hmm. Actually I've never had adderall um, but

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Speaker 1: the brain is weird. That is my big conclusion. Gabby,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry you had a concussion. Thanks, you're feeling

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Speaker 1: better though. Yeah. No cool accent though. But we'll play

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Speaker 1: chess later and we'll see if I'm suddenly really good

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Speaker 1: at that. You'll suddenly like start seeing the chess pieces

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Speaker 1: on the on the ceiling and yeah, hallucinating, Yeah, exactly

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Speaker 1: perfect is well? Thank you everyone so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: As always, we love spending time with you and sharing

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Speaker 1: all of these weird facts. Until next time, Bye, Dargal.

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Speaker 1: Cadaver Gals is a production of School of Humans and iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: It is written, edited, produced, researched, et cetera by Gabi Watts,

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