WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Get Right Back

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The we gotta get right back

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<v Speaker 1>to where we started from edition as I visit with

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite guests, radio and TV host and

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<v Speaker 1>NFL dot Com columnist Adam Shine. Then Bengals dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>editor Jeff Hobson joins me to discuss the biggest positives

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of training camp, as well as our biggest

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<v Speaker 1>concerns heading into the season opener against Pittsburgh. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest thing since a good steak. Last weekend, I

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<v Speaker 1>traveled to Arkansas to call the UC Bearcat season opener,

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<v Speaker 1>and I figured it would be wise to get a

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<v Speaker 1>Friday night dinner recommendation from former razorback star Brandon Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>who not only played at Arkansas but grew up near campus.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals backup quarterback set me and my friends to Doze.

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<v Speaker 1>That's d Oe apostrophe S, a casual steakhouse with four

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<v Speaker 1>locations in Arkansas. I took our servers recommendation and ordered

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<v Speaker 1>the Ribi, and I'm here to tell you that it

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<v Speaker 1>was not only delicious, but it was gigantic. It would

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<v Speaker 1>have tipped over Fred Flintstone's car. As I told Brandon,

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<v Speaker 1>my arteries hate him, but it was an excellent recommendation

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<v Speaker 1>in one I am happy to pass along. If you

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<v Speaker 1>like a big, juicy steak when in Arkansas, go to Doze.

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<v Speaker 1>Now time to get to my first guest. He hosts

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<v Speaker 1>a nash No radio show, He hosts a nightly TV

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<v Speaker 1>show on CBS Sports Net. He has his own podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>He writes a column for NFL dot Com. He is

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<v Speaker 1>my guy, Adam Shy. Now, with that schedule, Adam, there's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of free time, so I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you doing this. Let's start with Joe Burrow. Your admiration

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<v Speaker 1>for the Bengals quarterback is well documented. I think you've

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<v Speaker 1>used the word obsessed before give us the national perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>What has Joe Burrow done for the Cincinnati Bengals. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost, Dan, It's always great to be with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Love you, lovely, love your podcast, love listening to your

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<v Speaker 1>play by play calls of the Cincinnati Bengals, and listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm obsessed with Joe Burrow. I love Joe Burrow,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I think everyone nationwide knows Joe has it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it goes back to that year

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<v Speaker 1>at LSU where I'd make the case and now as

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<v Speaker 1>years later, non subject to exaggeration or hyperbley, great offensive

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<v Speaker 1>season ever in the history of college football, and that

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<v Speaker 1>starts with Joe Burrows. Then he goes to Cincinnati ads

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<v Speaker 1>needed talent, swagger, attitude at the quarterback position. Look, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals caught a lot of people off guard last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they'd be great. I did not think they

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<v Speaker 1>would be Super Bowl great. I thought the offense would

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<v Speaker 1>be excellent. I was all in on Burrow. But what

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<v Speaker 1>really impressed me, I think what really translated with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people nationwide. Joe Burrow wouldn't use Cinderella, He

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't use this as some kind of little engine that

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<v Speaker 1>could story, or you know, the plucky upstart Bengals. It's no,

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<v Speaker 1>we expect to win these games. We expect to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>we expect to beat Baltimore, we expect to beat Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 1>we expect to win the super Bowl. And he was

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<v Speaker 1>pissed off when the Bengals didn't win the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it all just fit the genius on and

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<v Speaker 1>off the field of what Joe Burrow is all about.

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<v Speaker 1>You have had some big name quarterbacks on your podcast

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<v Speaker 1>in recent weeks, Josh Allen from the Bills, Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>from the Packers. I'm sure you would love to have

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow on the Adam Shine Podcast if you were

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<v Speaker 1>able to book him. What are some things you would

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<v Speaker 1>like to know from Joe Burrow? Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to have Joe Burrow on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>just I want to know what makes him tick because

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about how there's no element of surprise or

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<v Speaker 1>Cinderella story. I mean, his story is pretty amazing considering

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<v Speaker 1>his path and his ride in college. I mean, even

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<v Speaker 1>before that year at Elis You we weren't talking about

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<v Speaker 1>him necessarily as being that number one overall pick. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean going back to the Ohio State days and then

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<v Speaker 1>the transfer, so you know where he got that amazing

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<v Speaker 1>confidence from and at what point he developed into this

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<v Speaker 1>great quarterback but natural leader. And I'm just obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>his work ethic. I'm obsessed with his accountability. I'm obsessed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's one of those quarterbacks. He always knows

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<v Speaker 1>from a young age, never point the finger, always point

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<v Speaker 1>the thumb. Whether that's right, wrong, or indifferent, it's on him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. If something good happens or something positive from Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>credit the teammates, something that doesn't go our way, that's

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<v Speaker 1>on me. That's my responsibility. So I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to him about his work ethic, his leadership, his

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<v Speaker 1>mentality and his swagger. Dan. It's I'm kind of when

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<v Speaker 1>I say obsessed, I mean he's one of those cock

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<v Speaker 1>shore quarterbacks. It's like right out of Central Casting. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kick bought, take names, tell you I'm gonna do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and have fun in the process. I just love watch him.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, if you want to help me get

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<v Speaker 1>him on the Adam Schian podcast, I'd love that too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to talk to Joe Burrow right after he

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<v Speaker 1>does the Bengals Booth podcast. I'd be happy to try

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<v Speaker 1>to help. Adam Shine is our guest. It's no secret

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<v Speaker 1>that Joe got sacked too many times last year seventy

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<v Speaker 1>times if you include the postseason. The Bengals did something

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<v Speaker 1>about it. They went out and signed three established veteran

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<v Speaker 1>free agents. With that in mind, Adam, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals have changed the narrative that's been out there

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<v Speaker 1>forever that they won't participate in free agency. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they completely change it, and I think they had to

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<v Speaker 1>change it, and I think they had to change it

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, it was real, it was legit, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a fair criticism. And I think with Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>there's now accountability and there's now a standard, and it

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to that hole that was not Cinderella quote

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<v Speaker 1>shit that I talked about earlier. Okay, so what do

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<v Speaker 1>great organizations do? See a problem, fix a problem, have

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<v Speaker 1>a franchise quarterback, surround him with what he needs to win. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you want Jamar Chase And by the way, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the right pick, the only pick. We talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>on your podcast last year. Griggs, you want te Higgins

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<v Speaker 1>greats Joe Mixon, who was there before a top five

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<v Speaker 1>running back in my opinion in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, pass protection is not what it's supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be passed on some offensive tackles. Right, move to draft Chase. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go out and be active in free agency. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>spend the money not haphazardly, wisely, and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>got everybody's attention. I mean, you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Collins could have picked a lot of different places to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean people were flocking to Cincinnati to be part

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<v Speaker 1>of this, to be part of Joe Burrow's offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>to be one of his body protectors. Because a free agency,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not kid ourselves, right, money is at the top,

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<v Speaker 1>but you want an opportunity to win. So the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>had to join the party. And I just thought they

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<v Speaker 1>did so brilliantly. Dan in the off season, you ran

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<v Speaker 1>down the skill position talent Chase Higgins, Mixon. We can

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<v Speaker 1>throw Tyler Boyd in there as well. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the defense, because the defense really was the key to

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<v Speaker 1>the three playoff victory that led to the appearance in

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. Do people sleep on the Cincinnati Bengals defense?

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<v Speaker 1>Without question, they do I think everybody's guilty of it

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<v Speaker 1>because the offense is so great and so dynamic. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think you're exaggerating at all. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that defense was so tough, so clutch. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the Raider game, you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee game, you look at the Kansas City game. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that, to me is the ultimate defense for the

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<v Speaker 1>juggernaut offense and the fantastic quarterback. You need a playmaking defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at the Kansas City defense when the Chiefs who

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<v Speaker 1>were winning a Super Bowl. Look at the Rams defense.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to be in Cincinnati, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>a top ten defense. You have to be tough, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be clutch. You have to get the opportunistic

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<v Speaker 1>interception and quarterback sack, get the ball back to Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's what it's all about. The front seven I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was excellent. The dbs made plays. You're right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're all guilty of it. I'm guilty of it.

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<v Speaker 1>This defense is really under the radar, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a fluke. It's not a flash in the pan. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought the team drafted well on defense, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals will be back in the Super Bowl conversation. So,

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<v Speaker 1>prior to last year, the Bengals were six twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>and one the previous two seasons. You did say prior

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<v Speaker 1>to last year that you thought they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>be good. I will give you credit for that. Had

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<v Speaker 1>they pulled off the Super Bowl title and they had

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<v Speaker 1>to lead with less than two minutes to go, would

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<v Speaker 1>you have considered it one of the great underdog championship

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<v Speaker 1>stories of all time? Yes, absolutely, And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of things tie in first to

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<v Speaker 1>your point the record, right, because I could like a

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<v Speaker 1>team where you could like a team. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as Bill Parcels once said, you are which record says

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<v Speaker 1>it is at the end of the day. So you

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people wanted to see it before

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<v Speaker 1>they believed it with the Cincinnati Bank, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that's fair. And you know I also think too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I picked Cincinnati to beat Tennessee that and

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<v Speaker 1>people kept calling my radio show on Sirius XM. They

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was crazy, Like they thought that was an

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<v Speaker 1>assinine pick Cincinnati over Tenniseate. Now Albeita came down to

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<v Speaker 1>the final play, great game. You know, I think people

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<v Speaker 1>kept going against and betting against and just not believing

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bengals because of Bengal history and that that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't fair. So I think that history is a part

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<v Speaker 1>of that. And you know, the division historically tough, the

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<v Speaker 1>conference historically tough. So yeah, I think I think that

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<v Speaker 1>would have been considered one of the greats from the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning to the end single season super Bowl rides if

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals won in NFL history. So the Bengals open

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<v Speaker 1>at home, they get the Pittsburgh Steelers at pay Course Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you think of that Week one matchup? I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's great. You know, I had Mike North, the

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<v Speaker 1>VP of Programming and scheduling, on my Serious XM radio

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<v Speaker 1>show and Dan. He made the point to me Week

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<v Speaker 1>one schedule was done with a purpose where he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to put big games, rivalry games week one, get the

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<v Speaker 1>juices flowing for the NFL season, And to me, this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of them Steelers Bengals, I mean Cincinnati. That

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<v Speaker 1>scene is gonna be unbelievable and it's a rare year

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<v Speaker 1>based upon history where you clearly feel better about the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals compare contrast to Pittsburgh, and I think Joe Burrow's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come out on fire. I think that Joe Mixon's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have an excellent game. I think Jamar Chase is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely special. And I think that Bengals defense going up

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<v Speaker 1>against a newbie at quarterback for the Pittsburgh Stealers, either

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna thrive, feel the energy, and I think Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>will absolutely take care of business in Week number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Shine is our guest. Let's get you on the

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<v Speaker 1>record for this season. Where do you see the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>in the AFC North and in the AFC in general.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've put a lot of thought into this. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I think the AFC this year is the

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<v Speaker 1>strongest conference in the history of the NFL. Seriously, in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of quarterback play, in terms of overall talent. You

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<v Speaker 1>look at all the players that you know got traded

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<v Speaker 1>or free agents that moved from the NFC to the AFC,

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<v Speaker 1>the great quarterback talent in in the conference, players returning

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<v Speaker 1>from injury. I don't think that that is crazy talk

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<v Speaker 1>before the season starts. So I've Cincinnati winning the division

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't even remotely hesitate, And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>North is going to be strong. I think by every

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<v Speaker 1>single team's own metric. All four teams in the division

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<v Speaker 1>are better than what they were last year. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals are better. Another year for Joe, the offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>that defense, everything Dan we just talked about. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this Dealers are better. I think Trubisky picked. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what happens, that's an upgrade over the version

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<v Speaker 1>of Ben Roethlisberger we saw in the field last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I love George Pickens, can't believe he lasted to the

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<v Speaker 1>second round. Miles Jack excellent talent. Cleveland not to the

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<v Speaker 1>level they wanted, but they're better even with six games

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<v Speaker 1>of Deshaun Watson down the stretch of the season. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Cleveland's a playoff team, don't misinterpret, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're better. The Ravens are better. Lamar's healthy, Dobbins

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<v Speaker 1>is healthy, Stanley's healthy, and Baltimore, to me, is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a bit of a factory in terms of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>excellent owner, excellent gam excellent coach. Baltimore is always going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the mix. So I have them winning

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<v Speaker 1>the division. The Bengals because I think an amazing talent

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<v Speaker 1>at quarterback, great coach, great organization. Bengals are ready to rock.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Bengals I have them super Bowls the

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<v Speaker 1>upside as the third best team in the AFC go

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<v Speaker 1>into the season. Now, if I'm a Bengals fan listening,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Bengals fans are listening to this on your podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I hope you can appreciate where I'm coming

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<v Speaker 1>from without being offended. I think the Bills are the

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<v Speaker 1>most talented team in the AFC. Now the second one

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<v Speaker 1>to me, team number two on the AFC list might

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<v Speaker 1>be offensive, and that's the Chargers. I think the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>had the best offseason of any team in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>calculated with J C. Jackson and Khalil Mack and Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>Day to stop the run, resigning Mike Williams, drafting a

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<v Speaker 1>needed offensive lineman, and I love Herbert. I think Herbert

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<v Speaker 1>is fantastic. So I think the Bengals are the winner

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<v Speaker 1>of the AFC North. I think of the third best

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<v Speaker 1>team in the AFC, and I think they're upside is

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the Super Bowl and win it. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I will pick them for this upcoming season.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine any Bengals fan will be too offended

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<v Speaker 1>by that. Last thing for Adam Shine. You do a

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<v Speaker 1>column every year for NFL dot com where you make

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<v Speaker 1>nine bold predictions. Now this was filed in June, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have to ask you about one of those predictions.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the Patriots as the third worst team in

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<v Speaker 1>the AFC, Bill Belichick third worst team in the AFC.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you still feel that way? You know, it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that you brought this up because it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you know, we're all creating content, right and my

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<v Speaker 1>editors asked me to do that fronto call dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even hesitate, and that's stamped when I did

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<v Speaker 1>it in June. You know, oftentimes we're all suckers for

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<v Speaker 1>training camp at preseason football. You know, I call it

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<v Speaker 1>dan a little bit of Joey Harrington disease, where you

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<v Speaker 1>see someone like Joey Harrington and go fifteen to sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>and oh, Joey's gonna be great. Now that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all slowdown. It's not gonna be that good or in

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<v Speaker 1>the league at all when it's all said and done,

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<v Speaker 1>paid Stots August has been a train wreck. So I

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<v Speaker 1>not only believed it, then I feel even better about it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, you help me with the numbers here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think all four teams in the Bengals Division are

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<v Speaker 1>better than the Patriots. I think all four teams in

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<v Speaker 1>the AFC West are better than the Patriots. I think

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<v Speaker 1>bare bones minimum two teams in the South are better

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<v Speaker 1>than the Patriots. I think the Bills are better than

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots. I think Dolphins are better than the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 1>And really I like the players more in Jacksonville than

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<v Speaker 1>I do in New England. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what Bills do. And again, I think he's the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>coach in the history of sports, not just football. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Patriots dynasty will never be duplicated. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what he's doing with the offensive coordinator. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like talent on offense. I don't like the talent

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<v Speaker 1>on defense. If they win eight games, i'll solely be

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<v Speaker 1>because of Bill Belichick. I do not like the dress

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<v Speaker 1>this year at all. I like the bold prediction, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love the term Joey Harrington disease. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how you fit everything you do into your schedule, but

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<v Speaker 1>I love everything that you do and I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>your time. Thanks so much. Adam for joining us. Damn,

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<v Speaker 1>You're the best. I have an unbelievable season, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear Adams radio show Shine on Sports every

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<v Speaker 1>weekday from nine to noon on Sirius XM. His TV

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<v Speaker 1>in the App Store and Google Play. Now that it's

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<v Speaker 1>opening week, it's time for some final thoughts on training

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<v Speaker 1>cap who stood out, what concerns remain, and did Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor do the right thing by not playing his starters

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<v Speaker 1>in the preseason. I discussed those questions and more with

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals dot Com editor Jeff Butch Hobson. What's It's opening week.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting ready to kick off the season against the

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday at pay Corps Stadium, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take some time today to review what took

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<v Speaker 1>place during training camp on a regular basis, you give

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<v Speaker 1>out the player of the day. So in a similar

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<v Speaker 1>vein who is your training camp MVP? I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if he ever wanted the coveted player of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with two of them. Actually, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go with co Evan McPherson, who you know hardly ever

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<v Speaker 1>missed and which is self explanatory. And then I think

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<v Speaker 1>Von Bell. I think Vaughn did get it once, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think the reason he's the MVP is I think

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<v Speaker 1>how much he helped Dax Hill. You know, Jesse Bates

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<v Speaker 1>did not show up really until after training camp, and

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<v Speaker 1>so Dax Hill played his spot. And you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie. I guess he made some rookie mistakes, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>but it show didn't look blatant, you know, And I think, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Dax Shill is a smart guy. He showed

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<v Speaker 1>all the things why they made him the first round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think Havin Vaughan Bell next to him, no doubt,

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<v Speaker 1>helped to help to make it that much easier. So

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<v Speaker 1>Bell for what he did off the field, and Mac

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<v Speaker 1>for what he did on the field. Oddly enough, I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote down two guys as well, and Evan McPherson is

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<v Speaker 1>one of mine. You had the sixty five yard field

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<v Speaker 1>goal and Welcome Back Saturday, you had the fifty six

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty eight yarders in the first preseason game. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it just underscored how valuable he has become this

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<v Speaker 1>quickly in his NFL career. He had the five walkoff

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<v Speaker 1>game winners last year, and then if you look back

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<v Speaker 1>at those playoff games, if he had missed one of

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<v Speaker 1>those kicks leading up to the Super Bowl, that might

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<v Speaker 1>have doomed them. But for four against the Raiders, four

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<v Speaker 1>for four against the Titans, including the fifty two yarder

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<v Speaker 1>to win the game, four for four against the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 1>including a fifty two yard or in the fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 1>that helped them get to overtime. And then he picked

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<v Speaker 1>up where he left off in training camp. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with you on Evan McPherson. The other one for me

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<v Speaker 1>would be Trey Hendrickson. I thought on a daily basis,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the most dominant player during training camp. He

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<v Speaker 1>had thirteen and a half sacks a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen sacks last year, so he went up by a

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<v Speaker 1>half a sack. I'm going to predict he goes up

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<v Speaker 1>by a half a sack again, fourteen and a half

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<v Speaker 1>sacks is my prediction for this season. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when they practiced against the Rams, we got to see

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Wittworth's replacement, Joseph Noteboom, a guy that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>been waiting in the wings for the Rams, and they

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<v Speaker 1>trusted him enough to give him a forty million dollar

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<v Speaker 1>contract going into this year. They might want their money

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<v Speaker 1>back after seeing what Trey Hendrickson was doing to him

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<v Speaker 1>in those two joint practices. So I thought he was great.

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<v Speaker 1>His contracts certainly looks like a bargain these days, a

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<v Speaker 1>year two of a four year, sixty million dollars deal.

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<v Speaker 1>People scoffed thought it was a bad deal when the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals handed it out, and now it seems like one

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<v Speaker 1>of the better bargains in the NFL. So each of

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<v Speaker 1>us choosing Evan McPherson plus a member of the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>defense as our training camp MVPs. Let's move to topic

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<v Speaker 1>number two. What did you consider to be the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>positives coming out of training camp? Oh? I think the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that nobody get hurt. I think was a big thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know we'll probably talk about that later. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's a bit of a gamble with not playing

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<v Speaker 1>anybody during the season. But I think Zach has taken

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<v Speaker 1>the nod. I think he's taken the key from the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>And a quarterback has played all of Joe Burrow specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>has played all of three preseason snaps in his career.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seem to have hurt him. So given that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the appendi sitis, probably when that happened, they

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<v Speaker 1>probably said, well, he definitely won't play in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure he was gonna play anyway, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so to me, that's the big thing is everybody's pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he gets him to the gate, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think in this league, if you get him to the gate,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a shot. And then you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the other positive two is and I think we hit

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I picked Bell, you picked Hendrickson. But the

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<v Speaker 1>theme's the same. This defense is back. They don't miss anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>They're a year older there, they've been in a year

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<v Speaker 1>in the system with lou Anna Rumo. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's and they and they and they look ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I thought they didn't miss a beat. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought they looked good against the Rams, although I have

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you, Hordy, I didn't see much

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<v Speaker 1>of that because I was watching Burrow. I said to

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Gruden. I said Jake Gruden, the former Bengals offensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator now consultant for the Rams. I said, Jay, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never been able to figure out how to cover one

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<v Speaker 1>of these uh joint practices. You know, you can't watch

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<v Speaker 1>both he goes, he goes. I fire you, I'd go

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<v Speaker 1>when number nine is so I took. I took that

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<v Speaker 1>advice and I followed number nine, which was good because

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<v Speaker 1>I had a bird's eye view for the for the

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<v Speaker 1>extra curriculus. But defensively, when I whenever I did turn around,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they looked like they did against the Bengals offense.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they look I just think the defense. I

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<v Speaker 1>think nobody said anything about the defense. It's all Burrow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all Chase, it's all Higgins and Boyd and rightfully so.

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<v Speaker 1>But two things I can't wait to see her the

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<v Speaker 1>two best secrets of training camp in my opinion, the

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<v Speaker 1>defense and Joe Mixon. For the record, Matthew Stafford also

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<v Speaker 1>wears number nine. Sorry, Are you sure that Jay Gruden

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't talking about the Rams quarterback since he's now a

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<v Speaker 1>consultant with the Rams, But no, I'm sure he was

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<v Speaker 1>referring to Joe Burrow. And I agree with you on

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<v Speaker 1>the big positive, particularly where the defense has can learned.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, that was the most impressive thing overall at

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<v Speaker 1>training camp. It looked like the defense picked up right

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<v Speaker 1>where it left off, and the defense was the key

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<v Speaker 1>to the postseason run last year. And I think you've

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<v Speaker 1>got some guys that are emerging that are going to

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<v Speaker 1>help make that defense even better. Dax Hill is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a nice versatile piece for lou Anna Rumo.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm really interested to see what a Keem Davis

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<v Speaker 1>Gaither is going to do this year because while Logan

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson was not practicing eleven out eleven for two thirds

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<v Speaker 1>of training camp, Keem Davis Gaither looked really good. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be used in a lot of situations

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<v Speaker 1>by lou Anna Rumo. We know he's good in the

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<v Speaker 1>passing game. I think they might be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>more use out of him in early down So with

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<v Speaker 1>those two editions and the guys they've got coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the defense is something to be very excited

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<v Speaker 1>about for Bengals fans. Let's move to topic number three,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the flip side of what we were

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about. What's your biggest concern into Week one? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the classic front runner here. My biggest concern is

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't play anybody in the in the preseason, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a classic front runner for you. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess if that's one thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe what we're you know, how long we'll take

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:18.080
<v Speaker 1>him to get into sinking the opener? You know, will

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, will will they come out sluggish? Will they

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, will they not come out of the gate quickly?

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 1>And will they have to knock off Rustum? And how

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 1>long we'll take him a knockoff rust? But I think

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:32.639
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather be healthy. I think I'd rather be healthy.

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 1>And if it takes you know, if it takes a

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>quarter and a half, you know, to get into it,

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>then then I think over a seventeen a seventeen game,

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 1>eighteen wink eighteen wink week Valley Forge swag that the

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.880
<v Speaker 1>NFL has become, then I think I'll take the first

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, the first you know, two quarters getting into it,

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:56.880
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, I think I think that's worth

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 1>I think that's worth the uh the risk. And I

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>think the way they play the game now, you know,

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's I think they I think they

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:06.880
<v Speaker 1>got enough work in. You know, the way the game

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:10.200
<v Speaker 1>is played now. Uh, they you know, they get about

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>they gotta lock. You know, they get a lot of

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 1>work in. I think they got in more work against

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the Rams, which was pretty close to live. It was

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 1>live for everything but tackling. You know, they got in

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>to play as much work as they would have if

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 1>they did the preseason before, when they played about fifteen

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>preseason snaps. So you know, maybe that's you know, I

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 1>think they probably have done just as much work. It's

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 1>in a different it's in a different fashion. So maybe,

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>like like any fan, I'm worried about nothing. My biggest

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 1>concern is the offensive line. I think it's going to

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 1>be better. I liked what they did in the offseason.

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 1>I liked the new pieces on the offensive line, but

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>we still haven't seen it. When they take their first

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>stat snap against the Steelers, it will be their first

0:26:57.000 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 1>snap together in a game. I don't know if three

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 1>weeks basically working together is enough to develop that chemistry

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 1>and timing and communication that an offensive line needs to

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>be good. Dave Lapham seems to think that's enough time.

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Frank Pollock seems to think that's enough time. I hope

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>it's enough time, But I guess until I see it,

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to remain a little bit concerned about it.

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Plus l Collins, you know the amount of time he missed,

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 1>how much rust is there going to be there to

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 1>begin the season? He looked pretty good in the first

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>joint practice against the Rams. Not so good the next day.

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he was just, you know, exhausted because he had

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>not taken part in eleven on eleven football prior to that.

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Will Cordell Wolson be able to pick up the type

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>of stuff that the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to show

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>him in Week one and the Ravens are going to

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>show him when they get to the Baltimore game. So again,

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:52.919
<v Speaker 1>I think it should be better. I think it should

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:56.239
<v Speaker 1>be at least league average, But until I see it,

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a little bit of concern there

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 1>for me. The other thing I would say that is

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.719
<v Speaker 1>shaping up as a current concern would just be cornerback depth.

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Should it be a Wouge looks great, looks healthy, That's fine.

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Mike Kilton, same thing, looks great, looks healthy. After that,

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 1>you've got some question marks. Elie Apple had a good

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>training camp but then had fluid drained from his thigh

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 1>at the end of camp. We'll see how that looks

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 1>going into the season. Opener Cam Taylor Britt's going to

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>be out for a while. After you get by the starters.

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 1>You've got Trey Flowers, who is pretty good in a

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.400
<v Speaker 1>situational role, but how good would he be as your

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 1>starting corner if he had to go in there. Jalen

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Davis has been good in preseason games over the past

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>couple of years, but if you had to rely on

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>him in the slot taking Mike Hilton's place, how good

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>would he be? Alan George good for him, I mean,

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's great that he's made this team as

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>an undrafted free agent out of Vanderbilt, But how confident

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>would you be if he had to be in there

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>for meaningful snaps? So I guess those are the two

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>things that stand out to me as the biggest concerns

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>that I have. Will the offensive line be as good

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>as we hoped it would be when they made those additions,

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and uh, well they have enough enough depth at the

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>beginning of the season at the cornerback position. Yeah, I mean,

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I would just say a court nobody has any depth

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>of cornerback right what you what you just ran through

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>is I would have bet what thirty one other teams

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>are going through right now. Certainly the Rams are ye

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>after looking at what they had after the you know,

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>the the you know, the third and fourth corner. I mean,

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 1>that's how you make it live in this league. How

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 1>many times have we had Chase or Boyd or he

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>could scorn a touchdown and you look down at you

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you look down at your flip card to see who

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:40.719
<v Speaker 1>they beat. You never heard of the guy, you know,

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's uh, that's that's that's what happens, you know. So, um,

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't you know, I think, uh, and I think

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of just switched flop them back of the offensive line.

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I understand the concern. But the thing that I think

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe different and you know, yeah, and we won't know.

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>We won't know if three weeks is enough. We won't

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>know if LC will hold up these or questions that

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, they can't be answered. But I like the

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>fact that you know, all three guys are veterans and

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>they know how to play. They know how to play

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the game, you know, And I think, well, that's the

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>one thing I thought Elcu looked. I mean, there was

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>some ugly moments against Floyd, but heat, but but he

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 1>made you the quarterback didn't get you know, he didn't

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>make you know the quarterback. There were no there were

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>no free runners when they were out there, you know

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. He knows how to keep the guy

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>away from the quarterback. I think all those Carass Kappa,

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, they haven't had experience up like that up

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>front in a while. So I'm I'm thinking that's going

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>to be the difference this trip. Which are there any

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>surprises on the fifty three man roster to begin the

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>season or in the position battles now that we're set

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.959
<v Speaker 1>for the start of the season. Yeah, yet not really.

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean maybe the numbers wise, I was

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of surprised they went with six receivers and four

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>running backs. You know, I don't know if that's a

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>major Is that a major surprise? You know, that's not major.

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a little tweak. Um you know, Alan George making it. Yeah,

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>that was gonna happen when Eli get thinged and Cam

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Brentman down, so that that really wasn't a surprise.

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I think probably maybe shelv in the fourth round or

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>not being able to stick, you know. I think, you know,

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I think they thought the way he came back, I

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>think they were encouraged that he came back in shape.

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>But I think the Risks kind of bothered him, maybe

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>more than we thought. So I think they're hopefully he

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>can you know a little more seizing on the practice squad.

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>But I think other I think other than that, Wardy,

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not surprised that Hubern Harris made it. I thought,

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>uh that, you know, with those gut with those two guys,

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>it was gonna have to be a knockout. You know,

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>it was gonna be a have to be a third round.

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 1>You knocked them down four times in the third round.

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Just didn't happen. It was they were raised or you know,

0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>they were Clark Harris I thought, can still obviously get

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>down the field. And Huber Huber has you know, he

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>has knocked the ball inside the twenty against the Steelers,

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>So I think that that probably although his ke As

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to Darren Simmons about this, he said, now,

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I remember he said Kevin Huber hadn't done it either

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 1>when he got the job. But I think Kevin showed enough,

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think Drew show I think Drew Christmas showed

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>enough talent that's worthy enough to develop, and Hubers showed

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>he's got, you know, enough left to bail out this

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 1>offense if they if they do need bailing out. To me,

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Alan George from the guys that were in training camp

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>would be the biggest surprise to make the roster, But

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess my biggest surprise overall was that they were

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 1>able to get three guys that look like they can help,

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>as Waiver claims, and I think that's the big surprise

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>to them as well, since they were thirty first in

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the order after being the Super Bowl runner up last year.

0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they dreamt it'd be possible to add

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>three guys that they like most, especially Max Sharping, because

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>this is a guy who's been a three year starter

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. Now, admittedly he doesn't have extraordinarily good

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>PF grades, he wouldn't have been available if that had

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>been the case, but I think if nothing else, he's

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>league average. Last year, he was ranked fifty six out

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>of ninety guards that had enough snaps by Pro Football Focus.

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.719
<v Speaker 1>And he's not coming in to start in Cincinnati. So

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>when you can get a guy like that, proven guy

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>that you liked when he was drafted, that has at

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>least been okay in the NFL to add to your

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>depth on the offensive line, I think that's a really

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>good addition right before the start of the season. Yeah,

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I agree, that's I mean, basically, it was a supplemental draft.

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean they had guys, you know I you know,

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 1>fairly high draft picks make it through. And I also

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>think I think the guy who's going to end up

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 1>helping them probably quicker than anybody, is probably the tight

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>end that they picked up from the patrons because they

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 1>need to help it ight end. Even before Wilcox get hurt,

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that was a position of need that they

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>were focused on that they were going to try and

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>upgrade in the last week or two of the preseason.

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think that that's I think you're right. I

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>think that's surprising that they could get a guy of

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 1>U And I'm gonna have trouble pronouncing his name, but

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>of getting the tight end from USC, I believe is

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:28.839
<v Speaker 1>that No? From Yeah? From USC? Right? Um, yes, right?

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>And uh they you know, the guy's a block and

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what they were looking for. I mean,

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I know there was interesting O. J. Howard, I guess

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>according to some reports, but I think Acasi probably fits

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.399
<v Speaker 1>them better because I think they're looking for the kind

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 1>of the blocking and like James Casey said, we got

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:47.879
<v Speaker 1>to protect the quarterback. You know, we got to block

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 1>the defensive end. And here's the other thing they don't use.

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, they don't use three tight ends a lot.

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>They don't use two tight ends a lot. But you know,

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that's so that's why I think this is

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>what they had in mind. And I think he'll be out.

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>He'll probably be I'm I would imagine he'd be active.

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I would think, uh and uh so I think he's

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a guy that could you know, I'm gonna get to

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 1>see you to see the first short. Yeah, the situation,

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>we'll see, yuh see how good of a blocker he is.

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.399
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's touch on a topic that you referred to,

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and that is how Zach Taylor used his starters or

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't use his starters in the preseason games. Was that

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the right decision. I'm all for it. I'm one hundred

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 1>percent for it, even if the tack buyers in the opener.

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 1>I think, what did we do all camp? We spent

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, we spent it looking at pull football talk

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:42.240
<v Speaker 1>to see what was the what was the latest biggest injury.

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, even the Steelers, the team they're gonna play,

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:47.840
<v Speaker 1>two of their guys getting knocked out. T J. Watt,

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>their best defensive player, the player of the year, the

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 1>defensive player of the year, he got you know, he

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>he nicked his knee, and uh, you know, I'm not

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm sure he'll be fine. I you know,

0:35:58.280 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I hope he's fine. I'm sure he's fine, he'll be

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 1>for the opener. But I mean, I just not sure

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you have to do that in this day and age,

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the way they play the game, you know. So I

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 1>think it was also, you know, I think I was

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>talking to Dan Pitch about how much work bar got

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 1>against the Rams. Think, uh, if you throw in the

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:21.240
<v Speaker 1>seven on seven stop, you get up to about sixty snaps,

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, not granted that wasn't you know, guys weren't

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 1>hitting him. But you know it was good. You know

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:30.879
<v Speaker 1>it was good. Uh it was good. Uh. I hate

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:32.800
<v Speaker 1>to say because this is what everybody says, good work,

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>but it was kind of but it was. I think

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>it was good work. I mean considering that what he

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>would have faced in a regular preseason game, you know,

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>with a thread of injury or something happening. So yeah,

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm I think, you know, and I think this

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:49.280
<v Speaker 1>is the I think this is the way of the future.

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, guys like Sean McVey and Zach, the young

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 1>head coaches, h they look at it, they see what

0:36:56.400 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 1>it is, and uh, I think they've adjusted accordingly. Here's

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>the answer to that question. Should Zach have rested the

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 1>starters as much as he did? Tyrn Smith Cowboys left

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 1>tackle out indefinitely. David Bakhtiari Packers at left tackle. He's

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.720
<v Speaker 1>out for Week one in all likelihood. McKay Beckton, Jets

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:20.399
<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman, he's out for the season. You just can't

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>afford in this day and age, to have your best

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:27.800
<v Speaker 1>players knocked out in preseason action, So you do whatever

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.839
<v Speaker 1>you can to try to keep those guys healthy. And

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>like you said, if it means you get off to

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.240
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a slow start. That's the calculated gamble

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that you're taking. But I think it's a smart gamble.

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 1>And I do think along the lines of what you

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>were saying that those two joint practices against the Rams

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 1>probably gave them more legitimate preseason work than a handful

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 1>of snaps at the beginning of a preseason game would

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 1>have given them. So that seems to be the formula

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>going forward. Always try to have a joint practice lined

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>up against the team, make sure your starters get some

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>legitimate work with restrictions that make serious injuries less likely,

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and that that's the best way to get get your

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.800
<v Speaker 1>team to Game one healthy. Yeah, the only thing I

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 1>would do is I would make it. I would make

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>it with two teams and only do it once a day.

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 1>The second day seems to be a bit of a

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 1>bit of a problem, So just sign up two teams

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>won the second week in the training camp, and then

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the next one like they did with the Rams the

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:33.759
<v Speaker 1>third week in training camp, and let's go. And I guess,

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 1>but you know, they still want to sell tickets to

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.479
<v Speaker 1>the games. So but that's always a good spot, good

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 1>spot to get your the games is a great way

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 1>really to to find out what the bottom of the

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:45.720
<v Speaker 1>roster is going to look like. Really, I think they

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.839
<v Speaker 1>the way they planned it was really just about right.

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>And one of those joint practices and preseason games should

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 1>be against the Colts like it used to be. Yeah,

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the two teams are so close together. How they've gone

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:02.399
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years after the reduction of preseason games

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>from four to three without playing each other is a

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:08.439
<v Speaker 1>mystery to me. It makes too much sense not to do. Yeah, yeah,

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and uh bringing in the team from the West Coast

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, and I don't know, is maybe

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 1>matching up matching up two teams that just played in

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. That's kind of interesting, but that might

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 1>you know. Uh, I thought that was really interesting because

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 1>that's I think there was that was good from the

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 1>standpoint of I think there was some opening day adrenaline there.

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 1>They couldn't help me, but just you know, to be

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 1>something left over from February thirteenth. All right, a few

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 1>more topics. What do you expect from Jesse Bates to

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>begin the season? Jesse, he's so consistent, you know, he's

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 1>one of these guys you uh, you know, you you

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:50.799
<v Speaker 1>wind them up, your roll them out there, and he's

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:53.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna and he's gonna be good, you know. Uh, And

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I think, uh, I think he'll be better than last year.

0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he was pretty open about how he struggles

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 1>last year trying to come to terms with his contract

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and playing, and he was pretty open about that. So

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got his arms around that now. I

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 1>think he's in a better place. And so I think

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:12.919
<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to be good. I think he's

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's a hell of a player. And look

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 1>what he did in the postseason. You know, he had

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:21.879
<v Speaker 1>a great postseason. You know. So if he can come

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>anywhere near that, you know, they'll they'll be fine. Historically

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>he's played nearly every snap. That might go down a

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit, especially early in the season. Maybe they'll give him,

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, the occasional break just because of the amount

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:38.879
<v Speaker 1>of time missed, but I expect him to play well.

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, Do you have an under the radar

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>candidate to have a breakout year? Yeah, just probably because

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I just wrote about him and you know, cam Sample,

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I think the versatile defensive lineman, I think he's a

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>And I agree with you on on Davis Gaither. I think,

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a great guy to watch, and it

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Cam too. You know, Cam's I think last year he

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>was hurt a little bit. He got hurt late in

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the year with a hamstring with a hamstring issue that

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 1>took him out of the last two games. But and

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 1>I also think he was you know, he also had

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.399
<v Speaker 1>some other stuff going on with his court. He ended

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 1>up having having surgery on his core. So you know,

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 1>they say, you know, he looked really good in camp.

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was very active. He gives him a

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>guy that can go inside and outside. He's not you know,

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to use him as a three technique

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot, but you can. He's a really good edge

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 1>put placement, run really well. I thought. I thought that

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>was one of the major reasons last year that they

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 1>were so good against the run was Cam. I think

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:42.399
<v Speaker 1>Cam played about three hundred and ten snaps. He's really

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 1>good against him run, and he can give you some

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>pressure inside too, really very you know, like Loui and

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Rumo said the other day, this guy he'll play for

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>ten years just because he knows, just because he'll always

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:53.919
<v Speaker 1>be in the right spot, you know. So I think

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 1>a guy like that, who's serious, committed another year in

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the system, and he's healthy, and I think, you know,

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're looking to kind of lowry open jobie

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:08.720
<v Speaker 1>seven sacks. It doesn't come from really the same position,

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 1>but maybe camp can help you get some of those.

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:13.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this guy should count as under

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 1>the radar because I've been talking about him so much

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>in camp, but hayden Hurst would be my guy. I

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 1>just think he's poised to surpass the numbers that c

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 1>j Uzama put up last year. And admittedly those were

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>not Pro Bowl like numbers, but he was pretty productive.

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.720
<v Speaker 1>But I think hayden Hurst could have sixty plus catches.

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I think he could have seven hundred plush yards, eight touchdowns,

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:37.320
<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of them coming in the red zone.

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I just think there's going to be so many opportunities

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 1>for him with all of the attention on the three

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 1>great wide receivers, and we know that Joe Burrow will

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 1>find the open man. So if hayden Hurst stays healthy,

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got the chance to earn a huge

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>contract at the end of this year, since he signed

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 1>a one year deal with the Bengals. Let's get to

0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 1>our final topic and that is next Sunday Week one

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Steelers. Do you have an early key to that

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Week one matchup? Yeah, you can't have mentioned it. I

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:11.280
<v Speaker 1>mean it's it's it's always the Bengals offensive line burst

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and Steelers defensive line. I always thought in this previous

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:21.280
<v Speaker 1>era of Dalton and Green, there wasn't a hex against

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the Steelers. There wasn't a jinx against the Steelers. He

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 1>had to block Hayward into it. That's that's what that

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 1>series came down to in that stretch. And I think

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>now with the Steelers in the post been era, trying

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:38.800
<v Speaker 1>to find some weapons, got a basically a new offense.

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>You know they're gonna ride that defense. You know they

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 1>got three They got three good minds over there. Mike

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Tomlin h he hasn't gone anywhere hell of a coach,

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:50.800
<v Speaker 1>but he's also got Brian Flores there a good defensive

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>mind as long. With Terrell Austin, the former Bengals defensive coordinator,

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>he's he's now the Steelers defensive coordinator. So you know,

0:43:57.440 --> 0:43:59.879
<v Speaker 1>you know they're gonna be good on defense. They got way.

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>So to me, it always comes down to protect and

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 1>protect and Borrow against I mean against those guys. You

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>can't you can't let the Steelers defense dictate to you.

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 1>You got to attack them. I thought they did great

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 1>to let their first game down in Pittsburgh last year.

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 1>If I'm not mistaken, they broke their sack. They broke

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:21.840
<v Speaker 1>the Steelers consecutive game for sacks. Borrow didn't gets sacked.

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 1>And you know need another one like that being great,

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a great be a great way for this offensive

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>line to get off the and I think that's the

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 1>other thing that's the key. But guys like Carris and Kappa,

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 1>they can get they can get Volson through a game

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>like that. All those guys have played in Super Bowls,

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, So I think, you know, I think that's

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 1>a this is trip around. I think it's a pretty

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 1>good matchup at home. The Steelers have led the NFL

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and sacks in each of the last five years. That

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>is a record for longest streak by any team in

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 1>NFL history. So what you're saying makes sense. And yet

0:44:56.480 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 1>I am shocked because the Steelers were dead la in

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. It's stopping the run last year, which is

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 1>highly unusual for them. I thought, for sure, I was

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:10.359
<v Speaker 1>going to get a Joe Mixon versus that questionable run

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:13.919
<v Speaker 1>stopping defense would be the key to the game. Well, yeah,

0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 1>well the Steelers gave up five yards per bolt, which

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:22.239
<v Speaker 1>is very very Unsteeler like. But I you know, I

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:26.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know, because then that would be the great answer,

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, to you know, for for Volson and that

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 1>new offensive line. What's the answer, Well, run the ball.

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 1>You know you want to get them. You know you

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 1>don't want to get them in a past sets right away,

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, You don't want them, you know,

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 1>you know they haven't If you want to get into

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:44.400
<v Speaker 1>a rhythm in the season, what's the way to do it.

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:46.879
<v Speaker 1>I guess it would be to give Mixing a give

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 1>them thirty touches or something like that. But I still

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:54.360
<v Speaker 1>think when push comes to shove, you got to protect

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 1>the big fellow. It's gonna be a fun week. It's

0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 1>going to be an unbelievable atmosphere on Sunday taking the

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>field as defending AFC champions in a regular season game

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 1>for the first time. Have never played the Steelers in

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 1>an opener, which is which is unbelievable, And I think

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 1>they've played them more than any other team, right think,

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and yet they've they've never played an open I find

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 1>that unbelievable. I can't wait to hear Dan Horde welcoming

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>the audience with about five minutes to go before kickoff.

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 1>That's always a great It's always one. I'm dialing in

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 1>there and you and Lapp get me jacked up. There'll

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 1>be I'll be waiting for this one because the first

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 1>time they take the field since the Super Bowl is

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 1>AFC champions Here's the heads up that our Bengals weekly

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