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Speaker 1: easy guy to have around. Kind of played the victim mentality.

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Speaker 1: I know the victim mentality plays on Twitter, doesn't really

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Speaker 1: play in a lot of high level organizations. No one

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Speaker 1: wants to hear you got screwed over. And I think

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Speaker 1: Carson had to look in the mirror and take a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge slice of humble pie. No one would mess with

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Speaker 1: the guy until Sean McVay did. And sometimes you need

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Speaker 1: a high level person to throw you a lifeline and

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Speaker 1: then the perception can change a little bit. And I

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Speaker 1: think Sean McVay is a big part of this signing

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Speaker 1: because not only did he sign him, nothing came out

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Speaker 1: about Carson Wentz being weird throughout the season, and when

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Speaker 1: he finally played in the game against the forty nine Ers,

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Speaker 1: Let's be real, he didn't look that terrible. Now was

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Speaker 1: the Niners were playing their backups, but still he looked

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Speaker 1: like a functional NFL play If that Rams thing had

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Speaker 1: not happened and he had been out of the NFL

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Speaker 1: for a year, I don't think the Chief signed him,

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Speaker 1: but it's easier for Andy and Veach to go. Listen,

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Speaker 1: if we're gonna put a guy in a meeting room

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Speaker 1: every single day, with the guy carrying our organization, we

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Speaker 1: can't have no question marks here. That's why they were

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Speaker 1: so comfortable with Chad Henny. The character really matters. It's

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Speaker 1: why last year who they signed Blaine Gabbert. Well, he

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Speaker 1: had just been the right hand man for Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: for years, so I know he can be a good

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Speaker 1: backup in terms of just showing up every day, doing

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Speaker 1: the work and helping the starter out. That was a

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Speaker 1: massive question with Carson wentz Well last year. He played

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Speaker 1: that role because Stetson Bennett was nowhere to be found,

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Speaker 1: and he was sitting right next to Matt Stafford, who

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Speaker 1: was obviously having one of the best years of his career.

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Speaker 1: So I think Sean McVeigh, anytime a quarterback finds himself

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Speaker 1: in the wilderness, you've got to try to get yeah

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Speaker 1: with the right coach, because look at Sam Donald. Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald was kind of a joke. A lot of people like,

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Speaker 1: this guy sucks, this guy's not an NFL quarterback? What

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Speaker 1: are you doing? Gets with Kyle Shanahan. The moment Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan signed him, Trey Lance was done. He inevitably got

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Speaker 1: traded a couple months later, and then a year later,

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Speaker 1: after just a handful of snaps, Sam Donald signs for

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars to be the bridge quarterback from Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that happens without the Kyle Shanahan situation.

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Speaker 1: So you get with Kyle Shanahan, you get with Sean McVay,

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Speaker 1: you get with Andy Reid, it can change the way

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Speaker 1: the league views you. So interesting. Signing obviously didn't cost

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I'm sure very much. I have not seen

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Speaker 1: the amount of money they paid him. I would imagine

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Speaker 1: it's pretty cheap. But uh yeah, I sound Reddick. You

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Speaker 1: know it's funny. In the NFL, more than most sports.

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Speaker 1: You can be a really good player, but as you

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Speaker 1: age and your contract gets bigger, if I have a

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Speaker 1: high priced team, I have to make tough decisions. I

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Speaker 1: have to go. I don't know if this makes financial

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Speaker 1: sense anymore, even if it's clear you're one of the

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Speaker 1: best players on my team. Like, no one would argue

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Speaker 1: that Reddick is not a really good player and is

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Speaker 1: an impactful player for the Philadelphia Eagles, who every single year,

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Speaker 1: especially these last couple and going into the season, their

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Speaker 1: goal is to like compete for the NFC Championship, not

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Speaker 1: to just win the NFCS, to compete for the NFC

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Speaker 1: Championship and be playing in the Super Bowl. And Reddick

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Speaker 1: helps you do that. Now, you could say two years

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Speaker 1: ago he was better, this year he chased some sacks, whatever,

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Speaker 1: but your contract plays a big role. And the Eagles

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Speaker 1: once they signed Hugh from the Jets, who's a younger

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Speaker 1: player and kind of betting on the com moving forward,

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Speaker 1: Reddick was done. And this story played out even before

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Speaker 1: free agency when they basically told him like, listen, we're

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Speaker 1: not extending your contract. We'll give you the right to

497
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Speaker 1: sniff around see what you can get, and they traded

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Speaker 1: him for a twenty twenty six third round pick. Now

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Speaker 1: that pick can go up to a twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: or twenty six second round pick, but clearly it was like,

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Speaker 1: you're not coming back to this team. And this is

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Speaker 1: the hard part about the NFL, Like it's not like

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Speaker 1: Howie and Vic Fangio think this guy can't play. You

504
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Speaker 1: just have to kind of build your puzzle and it

505
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,239
Speaker 1: constantly changes based on other guys, cap hits, based on

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Speaker 1: who you've drafted, based on who you sign. And I

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Speaker 1: think the Jets and I told Colin this a couple

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Speaker 1: of days ago, and this has been a theme with

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Speaker 1: the Jets all off season is they're all in this

510
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: season like a nineteen nineties New York Yankees, Cleveland Indians,

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Speaker 1: some of the Houston Rockets team when they signed Charles

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Speaker 1: Barkley and trade for Clyde Drexler, a lot of older guys,

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys that If this works and everyone

514
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Speaker 1: plays their potential, we should be pretty good. But if

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Speaker 1: these guys get banged up can't stay on the field,

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Speaker 1: it could be a disaster. And I think the pressure

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Speaker 1: involved with this team going into next year. Because I

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Speaker 1: had someone because I said I think Miami's worse. A

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Speaker 1: Dolphins fan hit me and like, I know, you think

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Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins, but we signed all these other guys. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I'd rather have impact players than like five

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Speaker 1: other starters, especially guys with some questions with injuries. But

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Speaker 1: that's beside the point. The Bills lost a lot, but

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Speaker 1: they still have Josh Allen and the Patriots I think

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Speaker 1: are gonna blow. To me, the Jets are an all

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Speaker 1: time boom or bust. I'm betting on the bust, just

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Speaker 1: history would say. And someone and one thing I told

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Speaker 1: Colin because we were talking about Farv when he moved

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Speaker 1: to Minnesota, the Minnesota Viking team in two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 1: when Farv had one of the best years of his career,

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Speaker 1: he was almost seventy percent completion percentage. I think it

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Speaker 1: was like sixty eight five. That team was fucking loaded.

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Speaker 1: They had ten Pro Bowlers, multiple defensive linemen, multiple offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: They had a young Adrian Peterson. Obviously FARV was awesome,

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Speaker 1: and they had three Hall of Famers I mean obviously FARV,

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Speaker 1: but Adrian Peterson and Steve Hutchinson. They were just really,

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Speaker 1: really good. I don't think his Jets team is remotely

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Speaker 1: close to that talented. Now they do have some young

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Speaker 1: talented players, but that New York market. I saw it

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Speaker 1: in Philly my second year when the quote unquote dream team.

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Speaker 1: If it doesn't go well immediately, things can fracture. Why

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Speaker 1: because there's not like this built up group of equity.

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Speaker 1: One thing the Chiefs have had last year and even

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Speaker 1: two years ago. Remember when they went through that rough

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Speaker 1: stretch when Mahomes wasn't playing that well. It's like all

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Speaker 1: these guys have played together for a while and you

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Speaker 1: can lean on, like we'll be all right. The Jets

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00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: are kind of built this mercenary culture, which I don't

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Speaker 1: blame them. They don't have a choice once they traded

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Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers. But that's how fields and typically that's

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Speaker 1: not how it works in the NFL. So they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be one of the more fascinating teams this year if

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Speaker 1: it goes well, it'd be cool. I'm not against it

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00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: going well, I'm just telling you where I sit right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to bet against it. And you know, Tangent Tuesday,

556
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Speaker 1: which I usually do on Monday, but because of Mayock's podcast,

557
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: we had to push this podcast back until recording it

558
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: on Tuesday come out on Wednesday. I got home from

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Speaker 1: the gym today and my neighbors who are from Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: older couple, big Eagles fan, and she walked up to me.

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Speaker 1: She's like, did you check out that women's She knows

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Speaker 1: I'm a sports guy women's basketball game? How incredible was that?

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Speaker 1: She's like, I was just at the gym. Three people

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Speaker 1: were talking about it. I was like, yeah, not in

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Speaker 1: a million years. Well, I mean in my lifetime, I

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Speaker 1: have never ever sat down to watch a college women's

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Speaker 1: basketball game. I've never watched a dribble. Besides, like on

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Speaker 1: social media of the WNBA, and I would imagine a

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Speaker 1: lot of people listening have not either. Again, this isn't

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Speaker 1: a shit on them, It's just the ratings speak for

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Speaker 1: themselves historically. Now, I think this is a unique occurrence.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm no dummy. When Otani's doing something crazy, it's

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Speaker 1: like I'm watching every baseball game. I'm paying attention. You

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Speaker 1: can't not pay attention to Caitlin Clark. I mean, she's

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Speaker 1: scoring forty hitting fade away threes. It was a cool moment,

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Speaker 1: it really was, and not shocking to see high ratings.

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Speaker 1: But also people are like, oh, it's so much more

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Speaker 1: popular than the men's game. I just heard on the

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Speaker 1: radio when I was driving back from the gym this

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Speaker 1: morning that the men's games on Sunday did the highest

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Speaker 1: ratings since twenty nineteen. Now, part of that, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: is gambling. Part of that is Duke who got their

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Speaker 1: ass kicked. But fifteen plus million people watched. I don't

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Speaker 1: think sports is that complicated. The reason why a lot

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Speaker 1: of people came in to check out Caitlyn Clark is

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Speaker 1: because she's gained a lot of fame, a lot of

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Speaker 1: star power. Guess what we like star power, right, Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods. I mean, when they play, as

589
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Speaker 1: your star builds, more and more people pay attention. I

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Speaker 1: think the NCAA tournament in the men's game has more

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Speaker 1: to do with probably the gambling, clearly, and just the

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Speaker 1: nature of the one and done or not the one

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Speaker 1: and done. But if you lose, you're out, So there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of urgency there. But I can't lie. I

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Speaker 1: thought that was a pretty cool night watching Kaitlyn Clark

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Speaker 1: score all those points against the defending champs. I even

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Speaker 1: stayed a little bit to watch the next game in

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Speaker 1: Yukon take down USC and the star player that USC

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Speaker 1: has in Juju. But listen, it just shows you this

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Speaker 1: stuff is. It's not that hard to figure out now.

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Speaker 1: She's clearly a generational player. I don't think there's ever

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Speaker 1: been a player quite like her in the women's game.

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Speaker 1: This isn't something I wouldn't expect this to keep carrying

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Speaker 1: over unless something like her happens again, and when they happen,

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Speaker 1: like I understand, golf is not for everybody, like I'll

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Speaker 1: be the first to admit, like when I do these

607
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: golf podcasts, it's more of a passion project for me.

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00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: I'm watching. I know the audience is much smaller, but

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Speaker 1: we'd all agree that you could not say the words

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Speaker 1: Tiger Woods to anybody and not have them know who

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Speaker 1: he is. And they've known about him for twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: Football a huge reason why it became infinitely more popular

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Speaker 1: the last twenty plus years was Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 1: I've always said they are the magic and bird of

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Speaker 1: the sport of football. Took it to a whole other

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Speaker 1: level when baseball came storming back in the late nineties

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Speaker 1: in the steroid era. If it was just me, you

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Speaker 1: and three other random guys hitting sixty plus home runs,

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been as big. It would have been

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Speaker 1: a big story. But it went to a different level

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Speaker 1: when it was Mark McGuire and Barry Bonds Stars Cell.

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Speaker 1: They always have, they always will. Okay, time for a

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Speaker 1: little middle coffine mailbag. Very very easy to get involved.

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Speaker 1: You just go into my dms on Instagram. It's my name,

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00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: two f's and ask a question, any question, get your

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00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: question answered here on the show. So we'll start with EA.

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Speaker 1: I think it's his initials for the bag. Coward and

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00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: others have said this, so obviously it is known. But

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Speaker 1: quarterback success is often a product of the roster, coaching, culture, etc.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I think we call quarterbacks bus without ever getting

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Speaker 1: to see them in a winning environment. Anyways, who are

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Speaker 1: some quarterbacks that have truly been bus and or what

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Speaker 1: percentage of bus are truly quote unquote bus. It's a

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00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: good question because I think some guys clearly are overdrafted. Right,

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Speaker 1: Let's use Marcus Mariota. He was drafted number two overall

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Speaker 1: and it's just not a starting quarterback. But when the

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Speaker 1: dust settles, you're gonna look and Marcus Mariota's gonna have

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Speaker 1: a fourteen year NFL career. So by no means was

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Speaker 1: he a failure, but relative to his draft status, he

640
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Speaker 1: did not live up to it. So to me, like

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00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota, there's a difference of a guy that plays

642
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: for a long time, Like it's not a bus. He

643
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: just was overdrafted. JaMarcus Russell literally didn't try, didn't try,

644
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: didn't study, didn't care, didn't give a shit. So like

645
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: Mariota tries, he's just not good enough. JaMarcus Russell, Johnny Manziel,

646
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Speaker 1: if you watch his documentary, which honestly I thought was

647
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: kind of cringe, I really do kind of bragging about

648
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: screwing around, which I get it, I mean is what

649
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: he did. But it's like I even saw Edelman and

650
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: some of those guys were like offended by it, which

651
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't blame anyone in the NFL because the work

652
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: ethic that it takes to sustain your spot, and what

653
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: you were given as a high pick is the chances

654
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: you get over the non high picks, like you're a

655
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: bust when you don't give a shit when you don't try. Now,

656
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: think about this quarterback class right now, or you know

657
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: the guys that are all moving on, Trey Lance, Justin Fields,

658
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. You can't make statements on young players who

659
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: their career's not done. Are they going to be busts?

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00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. Are they out of the league in

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00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: a year? Because if they are, then that's a disaster.

662
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: But right now, all those guys clearly were overdrafted, right,

663
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Fields and Mac Jones, Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 1: But you have to see the totality of the operation. Now,

665
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: any guy that's Ryan Leaf, I mean he's even told

666
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: you right, just didn't have the maturity work ethic in

667
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: the injuries. To me, you got to be washed out

668
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: of the league to be a bus I think we

669
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: over use that term sometime. Mayock talked about it with

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00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: Cleveland Ferrell, who he drafted number four overall, and I

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Speaker 1: put him in Solomon Thomas under the same umbrella. Both

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00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: those guys are going to play in the NFL for

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Speaker 1: ten years. They were not failures because teams continue to

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00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: want them to play. Help The forty nine ers were

675
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: like massive injury when Farrell got hurt. Now you look back,

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00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: should have been a second. If he's a third round pick,

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Speaker 1: it's like you got a ten year player as a

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Speaker 1: third round pick. That's a great selection. But when you

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Speaker 1: draft a guy in the top ten or top five,

680
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: the expectation that comes along with it happens immediately. So

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Speaker 1: I hear you. I think that kind of word, just

682
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: in general, is probably used too liberally, is used too often.

683
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: Right to be a bus you have to just want

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00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 1: no part of football, and you're out of the league quick.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about the NFL keeping the Christmas Day schedule.

686
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Speaker 1: They mentioned there would need to be a couple games

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Speaker 1: on Saturday so teams have enough rest. In my opinion,

688
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: they should choose the AFC division winners from the same

689
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: conference last year to play on both Saturday and then

690
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Speaker 1: again on Wednesday. Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Texans all have stud quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: It would be fantastic. What are your thoughts on scheduling?

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Speaker 1: You know What's funny is we had a bunch of

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Speaker 1: people over on Thanksgiving or not Thanksgiving Easter, and booze

694
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Speaker 1: was flowing. Honestly, it was kind of struggling. I'm not

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Speaker 1: a big Sunday drinker because I like doing work on Monday,

696
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: but I was hurting yesterday. I battled through and booze

697
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: is flowing, and we were talking about, like, how are

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Speaker 1: they gonna do that? And I started thinking, I wonder

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Speaker 1: if they take the two Thursday game or the Thursday

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Speaker 1: game from the previous week, and both those two teams

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Speaker 1: play on Wednesday against different opponents, and then maybe a

702
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: team coming off a bye week, because no one's going

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Speaker 1: Sunday to Wednesday. So I do think it's going to

704
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: be pretty complicated, and I wonder if they're working through

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Speaker 1: that right now. Now you could argue if it's a

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Speaker 1: team off a Sunday bye into Wednesday, that's an advantage

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Speaker 1: of a team Thursday to Wednesday. But I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a little complicated. So I crossed my mind too.

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Speaker 1: Love the show three and out listen every episode. Henry

710
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: is from Henry. I'm an artist living in New York,

711
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Speaker 1: twenty six years old and The only thing I'm passionate

712
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: about is as art is football. Been a lifelong Commanders fan.

713
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: Once the Redskins, I knew that first game I've ever

714
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Speaker 1: watched was the last time they won a playoff game.

715
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about trying to find my way into a

716
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Speaker 1: career in sports media or maybe another role in the NFL.

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00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: I've got a good college degree, I'm a strong writer,

718
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Speaker 1: and i have a creative skill set I've developed through

719
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: my artwork. Was wondering if you had any advice for

720
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Speaker 1: someone in my position, things to do, jobs to look at.

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Speaker 1: I know it's a competitive field to break into, but

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Speaker 1: I figured I think when you just ask like a

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00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: general question like that, you kind of got to narrow

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Speaker 1: it down, Like you want to work in football, Well,

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00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: do you want to try to be like a scout?

726
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: Do you want to try to be a PR guy?

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00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: Do you want to try to be like a you know,

728
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: a sales guy. I think you kind of got to

729
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: pick a lane to get your foot in the door.

730
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Speaker 1: And once you pick a lane, you know, the easiest

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Speaker 1: place to probably get your foot in the door would

732
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Speaker 1: be something sales wise. But you're creative, right, so if

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Speaker 1: you're creative maybe it makes more sense to try to

734
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Speaker 1: get into the production side of an NFL team. All

735
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: these teams now have big operations behind the scenes, whether

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00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 1: it's YouTube, whether it's the website, whether it's the doing

737
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: everything surrounding about the in house media team. Now, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what your background is, you know, even in art,

739
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: but I would try to do something that way would

740
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: be my best advice. But I think the hard part

741
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: is when you're really general. You know, it's like casting

742
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: a huge net into the ocean. It doesn't really work

743
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: that way because they're gonna ask, well, what do you

744
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: want to do? Right? So, like, what are you doing

745
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: when we hire you? I guess would be my question.

746
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: Huge fan of the pod two questions as a Rams fan,

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00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: Hopefully I answer your question what position do the Rams

748
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: draft for their first round pick? Which is kind of crazy.

749
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: They haven't had won in like a decade. I pay

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Speaker 1: I play in a pick them league every NFL season

751
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: for twenty dollars, and this year I won take it

752
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: home two hundred dollars. Being a small wager from the beginning,

753
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: I rolled it over to the Chiefs win the Super

754
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: Bowl and turned it into four hundred. Look at you.

755
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: I haven't cashed it out yet. I was wondering which

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Speaker 1: Final four team I would put it on to win

757
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: the national title. Yukon has been dominant, and Eadie for

758
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: Purdue may be the biggest mitchmatch in college hoops. But

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00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: should I take a chance on Alabama thirteen to one

760
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: or n C State twenty to one? I wouldn't touch

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00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: either one of those. To me, the value for betting

762
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: on the Final Four simply would be Perdue. You're getting

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Speaker 1: them basically two and a half to one, and I

764
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: know NC State is one of the crazier stretches we've

765
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: ever seen them, and they were about to not make

766
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: the tournament. Then they win the ACC tournament and they've

767
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: just rattled off four straight wins. I'm pretty confident Perdue

768
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: is gonna beat them. And then you just get in

769
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: this one game situation. Can Perdue beat Yukon? Alabama's been

770
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: an awesome story. Hard to see them beating Yukon, it

771
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: really is. But I mean, that dude Nelson they got

772
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Speaker 1: from North Dakota State. See here's the point guard. He

773
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: looks like a little Jalen Brunson or something. But I

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Speaker 1: think if you were going to take one of the

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Speaker 1: non Yukon teams, because Yukon right now is like minus

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Speaker 1: two fifty, So you bet four hundred to win, I

777
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: think like one hundred and fifty bucks. I wouldn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: recommend doing this because I think Yukon is going to

779
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: have to fuck up to not win the national championship,

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00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: but it would take Perdue to win it. That's if

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Speaker 1: I was gonna bet on one of the three underdogs,

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00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: it would be them because basically you just look at

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00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: it like they're gonna beat NC State, their big favorite.

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00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: Can they just don't? I don't want to say shock

785
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: the world because they're a one seed two, but could

786
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: they What are they going to be? Five six point

787
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: underdog in that game? Depend on how both teams look.

788
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: You know, assuming Yukon and Perduy you win maybe a

789
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: seven point underdog. Could they just win that game? That's

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00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: what I would do. I would say the Rams. I mean,

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00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: I would say a defensive lineman. You would think that

792
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: they're going to be in the mix for one of

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00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: the defensive tackles. With Donald retiring a little bit of

794
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: a sleeper, what if Pennix is there? That to me

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00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: would be the sleeper, but I would say defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: Question for the pod. Watching your podcast with Mayock was awesome.

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00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: He's one of the people who's really increased my overall

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00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: interest in football and the draft, so thank you for

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Speaker 1: having him on same impact as well. The conversation had

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00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: me wondering about your career as a scout, if you

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00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: can talk about it, what was your biggest success in

802
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: your career as far as player You may have pounded

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00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: the table for before the draft while at Fresno that

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00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: turned out to be a great player. Uh, so long ago. Now,

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00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: you know the recruiting process when I got there, Derek

806
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: Carr was already committed. We had the recruiting classes we had.

807
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: We had some pretty good classes, but also had some whiffs.

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Speaker 1: I you know, the thing is that Fresno State Robbie Rosse,

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00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean he was coach Hill loved him too. He

810
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: went on to be the all time leading rusher until

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Rivers, who's now with the Rams, broke his record.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'd be lying if I said like they

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Speaker 1: were picking the players again these guys in college. It's

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Speaker 1: really was more about your college coaches going out and

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00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: then you would just watch and kind of confirm if

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Speaker 1: that's who you're going to offer or not. With the

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00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: head coach, it wasn't as much like the NFL, where

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Speaker 1: you were like, hey, we should draft this guy in

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Speaker 1: the fourth round. It was less of that when I

820
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Speaker 1: was at Fresno State and Coach Hill were, I mean

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00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: just kind of ran the recruiting process. He was the

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Speaker 1: GM slash like team president. Essentially, here's a good one.

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Speaker 1: You and Colin are clowns. Appreciate the note. How did

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00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: the prime rib turn out in the smoker? What do

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00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: you think of the Reddick trade? In return? What do

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00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 1: you think the disconnect was? I did for for Easter.

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Speaker 1: I bought a prim rib from the Scottsdale Meat Market,

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Speaker 1: which is elite. I mean that the options you have

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Speaker 1: if you're ever in Arizona, if you live in Arizona

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna barbecue Scottsdale meat Market, this is unpaid

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Speaker 1: ad fantastic. My brother's been doing this for years, is

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00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: smoking the prime rib. So I'm like, I'll do that.

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Speaker 1: And I got an eleven pounder bone in and smoked

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Speaker 1: that bad boy on the tragger for about three hours.

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Speaker 1: I probably could have left it on there for another

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes. I think the hard part with prime rib,

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Speaker 1: and I don't pretend to be some meat master here,

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00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: and I'm a relatively new be to the smoker. I've

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Speaker 1: had the tragger since Thanksgiving is with a prime rib.

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00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: And maybe it's like this with some other meats too.

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00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: Is it's supposed to cook once you take it off

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00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: the smoker another seven to ten degrees, you know, once

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00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: you take it off and put it on your cutting

844
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: board and you kind of wrap it in ten foil.

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Speaker 1: And it's a really hard thing to gauge because different

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00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: parts of the meat I would say, are more cooked

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00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: than others. The one thing with prime rib is like

848
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: it actually tastes pretty good, closer to rare and medium rare.

849
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: But it kind of scares you as someone that does steaks,

850
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: like you have a pretty good idea what medium rare medium?

851
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: You know, I don't really eat my steaks rare, but

852
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: you can eat prime rib rare, and I think it

853
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: tastes pretty good. So one thing about prime rib, if

854
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: you get a big one, I got eleven pounder. Shit

855
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: was expensive, was like three hundred and fifty bucks, but

856
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: it was fantastic, And I don't want to toot my

857
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: own horn because the smoker did most of the work,

858
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: and the guy at the meat market gave me the

859
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: dry rub. I said, what's the best dry rub you

860
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: have for this prime rib? He's like, well, I got

861
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: this bad boy right here. He's like, cut a couple

862
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: clothes of garlic, put it in a bowl, mix it

863
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: all together, put it on. My brother said, add a

864
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: couple sticks of butter to the top. Highly recommend smoking

865
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: a prime rib. And I would say the Reddick trade

866
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: I talked about on the podcast. I just think it's

867
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: simple value. With the Eagles, they weren't going to extend him,

868
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: he's older. It's not that they don't think he's a

869
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: good player. They just they need Nolan Smith to kind

870
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: of come on, and the Jets are just in win

871
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: now mode, so they don't really have a choice. I

872
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: know this is very random, but I was hoping you

873
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: might be able to do me a favor. I listened

874
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: religiously to your podcast about six months ago. Colin and

875
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: Nick were on together discussing ideas for the NFL. Nick

876
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: brought up an international week. I thought it was very interesting.

877
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: I ended up making a presentation on the idea and

878
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: it circulated it as a networking tool to a bunch

879
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: of folks in the league. Anyways, I ended up getting

880
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: a job out of it, working in corporate strategy at

881
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: the League office. Dream job. I don't know if you

882
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: have a relationship to Nick, but I would love to

883
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: send him the present thank him if ever possible. Thanks

884
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: a million. You ever really inspired me to go all in.

885
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: That's cool, little league employee. I'll see what I can

886
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: do there. With an international week, So you're saying, like

887
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: every team in the league play internationally on a given

888
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: a week. That's interesting. I didn't hear his theory, but

889
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: clearly the league is very, very active internationally. Maybe he

890
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: was onto something and maybe you are too. Now Rodger's

891
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: hearing your idea, So that's fucking cool. I'm a diehards

892
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: Colts fan and grew up on Peyton Manning and then

893
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck into high school and college. As such, Colts

894
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: fans got used to a lot of winning over the

895
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: course of a twenty year period, and I think we

896
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: have high standards for the club. Ballard has been the

897
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: GM of the Colts since seventeen. Since then, he's never

898
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: won the division. Embarrassing. We've won one playoff game and

899
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 1: only made the playoffs twice. He values the draft very highly,

900
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 1: and he's reluctant reluctant to use free agency to fill

901
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: holes in the roster. He also has a tendency to

902
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: double down on guys he's drafted they can't perform. He's

903
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: made the comment before that he'd rather go young with

904
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: the roster than pay a plus money to be players

905
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: in free agency before we dive deeper on them. I

906
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: don't necessarily disagree with that. Despite all these facets, I

907
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 1: constantly hear he's a great GM and talent evaluated. I'm

908
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 1: wondering what metrics people around the league us to judge

909
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: other gms. I think he's well liked, so I think

910
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: people like him a lot. And I think there's a balance,

911
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: right because clearly they invest a lot in their own players.

912
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 1: Now you could say, well, you're not exactly investing into

913
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: like fucking Trent Williams and Micah Parsons, Like who on

914
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: your team do you have to have like Quentin Nelson,

915
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: like on your team right now? Who is a non

916
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: negotiable We got to have this guy. When you close

917
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 1: your eyes, think about the Colts, like how many are there,

918
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: So you could push back, like why we keep doubling

919
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: down on the guys we drafted, But it's not like

920
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: we're drafting Ray Lewis and Derek Thomas and Barry Sanders.

921
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. Okay, really good pick, we invested them, keep them,

922
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson really good pick, investing them, keep him, Like

923
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman, really good player, good player, but like, is

924
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: he maker breaking you? And again I understand signing him,

925
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 1: but like that's kind of the core of the team,

926
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: and is that good enough to compete in the AFC?

927
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: And the answer is clearly no. And I agree with

928
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: the overall sentiment that you just overpay right in free

929
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: agency not really debatable, but it's like the housing market

930
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: right now, if you live in a nicer area that's popular,

931
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay more than you want for

932
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: a house. Welcome to life, Like do you want to

933
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: live there or not? Because if you don't, then move

934
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: and eventually in free agency you gotta fill some holes.

935
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, you got to overpay a little bit, but

936
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: pay a guy or two it's not that crazy. Then

937
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: just be bottom feeding. So I think it is fair

938
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: to wonder why they're never active at all. And like

939
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: you said, if you're of a certain age and you

940
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: grew up the Peyton Manning teams, hell, even the luck

941
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: teams you were used to starting the season to go,

942
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: we can compete with anybody. Whether that turned out to

943
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: be the case at the end of the year or not.

944
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: Like you thought you had a chance, I think it's

945
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: fair to say these last five years that's not been

946
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: the case. Now the trump card with this team moving

947
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: forward is gonna be the quarterback and the coach. It

948
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: looks like you have a Shanahana McVeigh, a lafloor like

949
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: a pretty special play caller. So if that's the case,

950
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: you're in good shape. But then it's on him to

951
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: mold the quarterback to be a really good player slash.

952
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 1: It's on the quarterback to figure out ways to stay healthy.

953
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: So you have this big like kind of variable that

954
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: can change your franchise. If he becomes a top ten guy,

955
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna be good. If he cannot stay healthy or

956
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: has struggles, you're going to be in trouble, and then

957
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: everyone's going to get fired. Probably accept the coach. Been

958
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: a fan of the pod for a year. Now, I'm

959
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: pumped when I get the notification for a new episode.

960
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: If you could play golf with any three people, who

961
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: would it be? In which course would you play? You know,

962
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: this question gets asked a lot, right if you could

963
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: have played golf with anybody, if you could have dinner

964
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: with anybody. I think it's a tough question because, like,

965
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: there would be people that you would want to have

966
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: dinner with or play golf with that aren't quote unquote

967
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: in the sporting world. Like it'd be kind of cool,

968
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: do I don't know, spend five hours with Warren Buffett,

969
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos. I mean, there'd be certain individuals that if

970
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: you like certain things in life that are bigger than sports.

971
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: But if we just kept it to sports, I mean,

972
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: it would be hard to not want to spend four

973
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: hours on a golf course with Tiger Woods. So if

974
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: I was just keeping it to sports, I'd probably go Tiger,

975
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: Brady Michael. I'd keep it pretty simple. But if we

976
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: were if we were opening it up to anybody, it

977
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be any athlete or a coach or anything

978
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: under that umbrella. I want to revisit the take you

979
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: had on January fourth, saying Pennix is the clear number

980
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 1: two in the twenty four draft. I said that after

981
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: the Texas game, I was excited. He just made me

982
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: eight thousand dollars, So we got to take it somewhat

983
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. Best game of his career.

984
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes I get excited after a performance.

985
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 1: I know he didn't play great in the National Championship Game,

986
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: but I really don't understand why you moved off this take.

987
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: I'm a Commander's fan, and I really don't see it

988
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: with Daniels or May. It's frustrating to me that Pennis

989
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: and Knicks, two guys who put out so much great tape,

990
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: aren't even being considered as potentially the number two guy.

991
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: As you want put it, we overthink this one. I

992
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: moved off that. I'm moved off the take a little

993
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: bit because in the National Championship Game he played an

994
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: NFL team, and that NFL team had a shitload of

995
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: NFL defensive lineman and they hit him, and they hit

996
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: them and they hit them and it phased them. And

997
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: when you play the Eagles, Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis Huff

998
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: Sweat Nolan Smith, these guys are lined up over you

999
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: and they're gonna hit you. The Giants, I don't know

1000
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: how good they're gonna be. Offense has a lot of questions.

1001
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: Their defensive line is rolling out some dudes. The Cowboys

1002
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: have Micah Parsons. So six games a year, you are

1003
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: facing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of NFL defensive

1004
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: line talent. And I just watched that guy get peppered,

1005
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: and it really faces game now. Obviously getting hit as

1006
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback faces Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. But it

1007
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: was like he could barely get up, and it was

1008
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: like that in the organ game. I've never disputed, and

1009
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: Mayock talked about it. Just on individual throws. He throws

1010
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: as as anyone not named Kayleb Williams, if not better,

1011
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: But you watch the physicality of it. If you took

1012
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: him at two, you're not gonna. I wouldn't act like

1013
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,479
Speaker 1: you were crazy, but he is twenty four years old.

1014
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: The injury stuff, I think it's fair to go. That'd

1015
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: be very, very bold. No one disputes in the clean

1016
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: pocket throwing the ball, it's as beautiful as it gets

1017
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: NFL or college. The deep balls, it's unreal, but you

1018
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: do have to factor in, like getting hit. I mean,

1019
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: your team's not gonna be as good right away. So

1020
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily what I hadn't really thought that I

1021
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: watched that game. I was excited the more and more information.

1022
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,959
Speaker 1: I don't agree with people acting like he's a second

1023
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: round pick, like I would take the guy if the

1024
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: Raiders or Broncos or whoever takes him in thirteen. I

1025
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: do understand though, comparing him to other guys that are

1026
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one years old, more physical upside, more durability,

1027
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: guys that don't have durability question marks, I get it

1028
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: in a vacuum. Kid's a fucking baller. I think he's

1029
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: on a different level than bo Nicks. But it just

1030
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: gets back to it's hard for that visual to get

1031
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: out of my mind because they hit him. And it's

1032
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: why I like Bryce Young. When he played Georgia two

1033
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: years when they played him back to back right, they

1034
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: played him in the SEC championship game, and then he

1035
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: played him in the National Championship game in Georgia Beatam.

1036
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: He beat Georgia once and in Georgia Beatam when Metchi

1037
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: and what's his name? Not Jonah Williams, but the hell's

1038
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: the first My brain is not working. The dude on

1039
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: the Lions who they both tore their acls, one in

1040
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: the Georgia game and the other in the semi final game.

1041
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: And then Bryce had nobody relative to those two guys,

1042
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: and he was just getting peppered and he just kept

1043
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: getting up, and you're like, God, this guy's unfazed. And

1044
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: Pennicks a couple of times looked like he couldn't really

1045
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: get up. It made me nervous. I don't question his

1046
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: toughness or anything. I do just question, like when the

1047
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: durability stuff's in the back of your mind. But I

1048
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: hear you, like, if you took Michael Pennocks at number

1049
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: two overall, it would be WHOA. Now I saw today

1050
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: the the gambling lines, Jayden Daniels for a while was

1051
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: the favorite. Now it's flipped. Drake May technically is the

1052
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: betting favorite. It's still relatively close, but it's pretty clear

1053
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of those two guys. And most

1054
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: people I know think it's gonna be Drake May. But

1055
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: if you just throw on the tape of Drake May

1056
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: versus Michael Pennix, like one guy is better than others.

1057
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,439
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, three during the season twenty twenty three,

1058
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: Michael Pennock's better player than Drake May. But part of

1059
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: drafting is the future. If we just went off like

1060
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: you're never gonna be any good, Josh Allen would have sucked.

1061
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: But that's not the way football works. You keep improving.

1062
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: A Chiefs fan here, while we have been very last recently,

1063
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: Kelsey is most likely retiring the next couple of years

1064
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: and we don't ever replacement option as of now. Do

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01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: you think they should draft the tight end in the

1066
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: first three rounds so he can learn and develop under Kelsey? Also?

1067
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: Do you think the player voted grades, where overall the

1068
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: Chiefs were bottom five in the league, impact the team

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01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 1: going forward. I've said this before. I don't think they

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01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: matter at all. This is not college football. I'm not

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01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: recruiting you. I recruit you with my money. Now, is

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01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: it ideal for Is it kind of embarrassing for the teams? Yes?

1073
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: But I pay you right, pay you twenty million dollars. Sorry,

1074
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: your seat's not a little nicer. Now. You could argue

1075
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: doing that is not an ideal way to run a business,

1076
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: and we could argue that all day long. It's probably

1077
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: some lot of truth in that, And I don't know

1078
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: all the details I got. You know, only the guy

1079
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: going to work there every day truly knows. I'm not

1080
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: going in into these buildings. I can't speak to it. Obviously.

1081
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: The newer buildings like the Raiders or the Chargers new building,

1082
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: no one's complain. Some of these older buildings, people complain,

1083
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: And there's a difference of like like Michael Bidwell's terrible owner,

1084
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: Clark Hunt's a little cheap, like it's historically it's been

1085
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: a little cheap. Does he need to change a little bit? Yes?

1086
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: Does that matter at all as long as Andy Reid,

1087
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes are there because they're chairs instead of stools

1088
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell, So I I don't think. I

1089
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: think that stuff's pretty overrated when it comes to some

1090
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: of those NFLPA grades with the good teams. Ideally, if

1091
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: you're a team, you'd like to have, you know, a

1092
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: pluses across the board. But that that clearly wasn't the

1093
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: case for the Chiefs. One thing I've heard beside Bowers

1094
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: terrible tight end draft. So I maybe the Chiefs will

1095
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: like someone. I just don't know. If there's a tight end,

1096
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: you know they're drafting the end of the rounds. Maybe

1097
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: they take a guy on the second day, but yeah,

1098
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean I think this for she rice thing, you know,

1099
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver, tight end, offensive line. I think it's pretty

1100
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: clear who they're gonna take in the first couple rounds.

1101
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if they don't take a tackle and

1102
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Love the pod about the hip drop tackle.

1103
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: I can't bullshit about player safety. As long as they

1104
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: use artificial turf. They could get rid of way more

1105
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: serious injuries by just switching to grass. I know they

1106
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: won't dodo because the poor billionaire owners would complain, but

1107
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: the hip drop tackle almost seems like a scapegoat. I

1108
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: totally understand hate hypocrites listen every day. What are your

1109
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: thoughts on the new hybrid kickoff. I think it's weird

1110
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: going away from the original kickoff we've grown up on

1111
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: and watched our whole lives, But I don't think I

1112
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: hate it. Gives better chances for returns and less boring

1113
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: touchbacks and bullshit fair catches totally agree. I do understand

1114
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: a couple teams voted against it. I know the Niners

1115
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: were one of them, and they were asked why they

1116
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: voted against it, and simply because it's like a pretty

1117
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: dramatic change. But the NFL, like's not really afraid of

1118
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: change and it's not that complicated. I just think we

1119
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: want more action, and that play had become irrelevant that

1120
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: played for a long period of time. I don't care

1121
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: whether you played pee wee football through the NFL. If

1122
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: you had a dynamic kickoff return guy, you had to

1123
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: be on your toes because that guy could take it

1124
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: let alone to the house. But like thirty forty yards

1125
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: and get to the fifty yard line. Now, I just

1126
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: think we're gonna see so much creativity. I think it's

1127
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to put like cool, exciting players back there.

1128
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: What if you're the Niners and throw Christian McAffrey there.

1129
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: What if you're the Eagles and you throw Saquon Barkley

1130
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: back there? Right? What if you're Tampa Bay and you

1131
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: throw the white guy back there? What if you just

1132
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: throw guys back there and you don't You might not

1133
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: do it all the time, but like ty game, second

1134
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: half in a big divisional game, like why wouldn't you

1135
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: want Deebo Samuel back there? Or you know a player

1136
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,439
Speaker 1: like that. I think you're gonna see more and more

1137
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: of that which never would happened before ever, But now

1138
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: you go, what that's like one of his touches. He's

1139
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: not taking a huge collision, and I think it gives

1140
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: the opportunity for good special teams coaches to really show creativity.

1141
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a shit show early on. I'm still

1142
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: a little confused by the rules. I guess I need

1143
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: to reread them. I guess it's you know, from the

1144
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: twenty to the goal line, you have to return it,

1145
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: and if it goes in past the goal line, it

1146
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: comes out to the thirty five, and if it goes

1147
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: out of bounds, it goes to the thirty or excuse me,

1148
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: the forty. I got to reread back on the on

1149
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: the rules. But clearly teams are going to try to

1150
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: kick it between the twenty and the goal line and

1151
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: then tackle the guy, you know, within the fifteen yard line.

1152
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: So there are gonna be some guys that kick it

1153
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: out of bounds, trying to get too tricky on the

1154
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: little kick. I also think this impacts because touchbacks now

1155
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: aren't great. Again, I forget the exact yard line. I

1156
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: don't have it out the top of my head like

1157
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers drafted Moody in the third round

1158
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: because he had a powerful leg, So a lot of

1159
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: these kickers just kicked it out of the end zone.

1160
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: That attribute is not as important. Not that that was

1161
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: the end all be all to begin with, but that

1162
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: changed a little bit. Was listening to the Joel Klatt

1163
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: Show and he brought up Pennix to the Dolphins, wondering

1164
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: what your take is on that. Well, the only way

1165
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: you would draft Pennix if you're the Dolphins is if

1166
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: you're not going to extend Toua. If they extend Tua

1167
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: in the next month or plan on doing it after

1168
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: the draft, you're not taking Michael Pennix. Maybe they're waiting

1169
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: to see if they can draft Michael Pennix. I would

1170
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: say if the Dolphins drafted Michael Pennix would tell you

1171
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: everything you need to know what they think of Mike,

1172
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: not Michael Tua of Tua tongue by low So I

1173
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: think that would be a little stunning. But I also

1174
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: think paying him two hundred million dollars is insanity. But

1175
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: you know who am I question for the mailbag Eagles

1176
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: fan all my life think Howie does a good job

1177
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: and Larry's a good owner. But this, this blind spot

1178
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: with Sirianni is concerning. He's not a good coach and

1179
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: you can see it. I think this upcoming year is

1180
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: a disaster waiting to happen. They lose two or three

1181
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: games in a row in the beginning of the year

1182
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: and this city will be pitchforks out. But another problem

1183
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: is if they win and the offense is awesome, Kellen

1184
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: is now looked at as a head coaching candidate and

1185
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: we are stuck with Nick and looking for a new

1186
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: OC or do we fire Nick and make Kellen the

1187
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: head coach? See disaster even if we win. Let's face it,

1188
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: if the Eagles had a do over, and this is

1189
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: impossible to do because you were winning, and I don't

1190
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: blame them for not doing it, but there's not a

1191
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: team in the league that would take Sirianni over Shane Steiken,

1192
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: just based on that when we've seen a year if

1193
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: Shane Stiken compete with Gardner Minshew, but he's an elite

1194
01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: play caller. Sirianni is a motivator who, as we saw

1195
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: this year, didn't look like a great motivator. Now, people

1196
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: within the Eagles like the guy, But from a schematic standpoint,

1197
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: I just don't know what he's bringing to the table.

1198
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: I struggle with an offensive coach who's the CEO. I

1199
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: can live because we've seen it historically work a lot

1200
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: defensive guys, CEO level guys. Tomlin Harbaugh's a special team

1201
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: slash dB guy, Parcels Forever was a CEO defensive guy.

1202
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: I just think it's an offensive guy, like, why can't

1203
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: you call the plays? And I know we saw him

1204
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: for a little bit with Jalen's second year and it

1205
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: was a disaster, but like three years later, you just

1206
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: have no ability to do it. Kellen Moore is making

1207
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: a lot of money. The Eagles paid him a lot

1208
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: of money. I do think that they dramatically upgraded at

1209
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: the position or the assistant, you know, the two coordinators

1210
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: in Vic and Kellen. But I hear, uh, it's hard

1211
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: to shake what happened last year and it falls on

1212
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: Nick's feet. It's one thing, like McCarthy is a good example.

1213
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: That game was embarrassing. It was bad, but like they

1214
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: had played pretty well up into the playoff game. It's

1215
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: why that game was so shocking and they got their

1216
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: ass kicked. But say this about Mike McCarthy, who takes

1217
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: a lot of shit. I've seen them call plays and

1218
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: it works. Aaron Rodgers, Dak Prescott like people can make

1219
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: fun of Mike McCarthy as a head coach, no one

1220
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 1: can dispute the guy can run an offense. Nick Siriana

1221
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: cannot run an offense. He'd be like, wow, he's sixty five,

1222
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: you know he's old. No fucking guy's like forty three

1223
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 1: years old. So yeah, I'd say it's pretty concerning. Uh,

1224
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: And I hear you like, if it goes well, let's

1225
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: say you have you're the number one seed and your

1226
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: offense is incredible, Well, Sirian, he's not getting the credit.

1227
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore would get the credit, and then you have

1228
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: a problem on your hands again. Now let's just hypothetically

1229
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 1: you have the best offense and Jalen's an MVP candidate.

1230
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: Is Kellen a Locke to be an NFL head coach?

1231
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: I would say no, But it's higher in fifty to

1232
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 1: fifty because he's been viewed highly before, had a rough

1233
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: year with the Chargers, though. Brendan Staley gets most of

1234
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: the criticism, and then you boom resurrect yourself again. He

1235
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 1: would definitely get interviews. Anytime you're getting interviews, you can

1236
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: be the head coach. So I hear it's I don't

1237
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:31,560
Speaker 1: think it's a blind spot. I think it's pretty well documented.

1238
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: They were very close to firing Nick Sirianni, and if

1239
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni had been fired, I don't think anyone would

1240
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 1: argue he got screwed. But like, you invest in a

1241
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: guy he just a year ago. I mean, he wasn't

1242
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: calling the place shit Dyken was, but he was the

1243
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: head coach. You were in the super Bowl, so you're

1244
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: getting one more year. But he's just to go in

1245
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 1: with a guy on a hot seat, and the Cowboys

1246
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: are gonna face this too, and a lot of other

1247
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: teams like solid on the hot seat that pressure if

1248
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't go right immediately can just crumble. It's like

1249
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: a brushfire turns into the whole house burned down. And

1250
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: you're right, if it goes well, the conversation is like,

1251
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: well we can't let Kelln mor get out the door.

1252
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: If you could argue Siriani goes well, it goes bad,

1253
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: might not be the head go to twenty twenty five.

1254
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: No matter what good call, the volume