1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: My guest is Julius Tennon. He's a coach, president and 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Juvie Productions, which he founded with his wife, Viola Davis. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Julius and accomplished film, television and theater veteran actor which 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know all I knew it was producer. So 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: a reading this bio, I just I'm learning so much. 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 1: But we're gonna learn a lot to buy them on 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: this show because I'm spiling all the stuff I did know. 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: Produced with over thirty years of experience, ju v A 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: cree scripted and non scripted television, film, documentaries, theater and 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: digital immersive content for global audiences. The company currently has 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: the first look feature production deal with Amazon Studios on 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: the film side, as well as an overall development deal 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: with ABC Studios and ABC Signature Studios for broadcast, cable, streaming, 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: and digital platforms. Please working the Money Making Conversations master 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 1: Class the one and only Julius Tennon. How are you doing, 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: sir um del I'm doing good. Rashan, thank you so much. 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: And let me just say the ABC deal we had, 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: we went to Amazon. We let that deal after four 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: years and we into Amazon for a couple of years 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: and we've developed quite a robust roster of things, but 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: mandate changed and all those kinds of things. So right 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: now we're in the throes of finding a new deal 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: and we have a bunch of h we have a 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: bunch of fish biting. Yeah, so we're gonna have a 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: new deal here shortly. But I run at ABC was 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: certainly amazing and uh, and we really appreciated being in 27 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: that deal given the violin was doing How to Get 28 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: Away with Murder at the time, and so it uh 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: really voted well and we did. Uh. We did a 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: lot of things, got a lot of things out there. 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: So it set us up to where we already did 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: we know something, Julius, and thank you for taking the 33 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: time to come on the show because of the fact 34 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: that you know, I always realized that two people and 35 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: the process of getting success the person in the front 36 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: of the camera and the person behind the camera. And 37 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: you guys are doing something beautiful here success behind the camera, 38 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: which I categorize as you and her success in front 39 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: of the camera, not saying she don't do stuff behind 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: the camera, but that relationship. How does it make Juvy 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: Productions unique? Well, what you know for us, what makes 42 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: HUV production unique is the brand we have and the 43 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: brand is Viola Davis. I mean, you know, I mean, 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: and I've really uh take that, uh really seriously because 45 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: Viola is somebody who's very committed to her craft, and uh, 46 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: we're always looking for prestige, elevated content. I always think 47 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: anything that we're developing, what Viola Davis do this? And 48 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: if that answer is yes, then we know we know 49 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: we're going the right direction. Because the company was founded 50 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: to uh boast of Viola's career, because when you look 51 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: at Hollywood and and the pipeline, the general pipeline of 52 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: Hollywood gets a little thin. There's not a lot of 53 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: good content out there. And so after her Oscar nomination 54 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: for The Help in twos ten, we decided we need 55 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: to take the ball about a horn and we need 56 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: to create content for uh for an actor consumman of 57 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: Viola's one, so that we could tell the kind of 58 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: stories that she wanted to tell and she could step 59 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: into the kind of character she wanted to step into. 60 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: And so it was that thing initially, but then beyond that, Rashaan, 61 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: it became this thing where we said, you know, Bioa 62 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: can't consume all this content so what we want to do. 63 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: We want to be a voice to the voiceless. We 64 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: want to put our foot in the door, open it 65 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: and then allow talented people of color, Black, Asian, Mexican, 66 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: you name, and Indian whatever. So that became the driving 67 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: goals so that we could start filling a pipeline that's 68 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: really thin. Um and so uh, that's kind of been 69 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: I that's been our north star. And then obviously not 70 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: just looking at the US, but also international because now 71 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: that's a whole different play now, that whole that whole 72 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: misnomer about black content won't travel. That's changed in this day, 73 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, because of analytics, because of streaming, because of everything. 74 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: So man, this is a unique opportunity right now, man 75 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: to do some to do some stuff in the world. 76 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: You know the thing about I'm glad you brought up 77 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: streaming because streaming to me as far as African American 78 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: content is the game changing because it's international. I always 79 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: look at Netflix and you know they're in a hundred 80 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: ninety countries, so in the product premiers there. Because you know, 81 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: as I self, when you go into the movie game, 82 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: it was a black lead or black concept. It was 83 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: only gonna stage the domestic it was, they weren't even 84 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: try to. But they might take the London, they might 85 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: take it to the Caribbeans and the African States. But 86 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: that's it. And so but streaming talk to us. Our 87 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: streaming is really allowed the black genre from a from 88 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: a standpoint of content to be exposed internationally. Now, well, 89 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I think listen, I think people of color 90 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: are calling for this kind of content. We deserve to 91 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: have more of our stories told. We need to be 92 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: seen in a positive light and we're not interested in 93 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: tropes and stereotypes. And streaming allows you now because can 94 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: do analytics around it, so they know what can play 95 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: in different regions, and so you know, you can take 96 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: advantage of that because what I've found traveling in the 97 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: nationally is that audiences are just starving for this content. 98 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: So it's an exciting time, you know, and like TV, 99 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much stuff on TV you can 100 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: hardly keep up. But you know, it's it's really a 101 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: good thing because it allows more opportunities in front and 102 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,119 Speaker 1: behind the camera. And so, um, I mean, you can't 103 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: quantify how awesome uh streaming is now and how all 104 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: companies are looking at that model the US, but certainly 105 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: now standing out across the globe. So that makes it 106 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: that much more exciting. And then where African American actors 107 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 1: and actors of color haven't been known, they finally start 108 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: getting an opportunity to be known on a global scale. 109 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: You know that. I keep going back to that global 110 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: you know, like Steve Harran Abu, we've way back on 111 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: the w B. You know, was that the world was 112 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: just so small, you know, but we were reaching success 113 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: but to a chosen few people. And now you look 114 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: at what's happening now internationally global content. But then when 115 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: you try to diversify, that's the key. When you were 116 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: talking about diversify, you see, people started getting mad when 117 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 1: I talk about casting. When we talk about the House 118 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: of the Dragon, Lord of the Rings. You know, your 119 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: wife there and you're there. Man, just from your standpoint, 120 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: isn't annoyance because you know you can you can this 121 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: is this isn't in real life characters, this faith, this 122 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: fantasy and they're made uh huh. List I always chill 123 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: my staff that what we'll do is hard. When you 124 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: want parody and you want equity, listen, we could be 125 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: we're fourteen percent of the population, But that don't mean 126 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: I want fourteen percent of the pie as much of 127 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: that pie as I can here and I think you 128 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: and that goes without saying without content. And I always 129 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: always always tell my staff and and and film, TV 130 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: and immersing and interactive that what we do is hard. 131 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: But you have to stay focused. You have to stay 132 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: on the case and your material that you're developing is 133 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: gonna stand on its own when you put the work 134 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: in you find the right partners. I liken it Rashaun 135 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: to a baby. The project is a baby, and then 136 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: how are we gonna when this baby is born? When 137 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: this when we're starting to birth this baby, how are 138 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: we going to take care of it as a group 139 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: so we can take it out to the town and 140 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: then uh sell it and then have success because we've 141 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: throught it, thought it through. But even if you think 142 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: it through, you know, with these shows, you just don't 143 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. You do the best you can. 144 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: You put it out there, and then you try to 145 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: nurture it so that it lasts, because that's the only 146 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: way you can. You know, from a financial standpoint, you 147 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: gotta get owes out there, particularly with TV, and you 148 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: wanted to have longevity because when they're having longevity, then 149 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: more money is coming into the production company based on 150 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: the deal that you and so that's the that's always 151 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: the goal. The goal initially is just to get it 152 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: to somebody who loves it and they say we want 153 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: to green light it, because it's not enough to say 154 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: they take it off the table and they buy it. 155 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: But if you don't get it green let then no 156 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: revenue is coming in. N you know your deal because 157 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: when you're doing your deal, your deal says they're giving 158 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: you the deal so you can bring content to them 159 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: that could potentially uh be exposed to a global audience. 160 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 161 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations 162 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rushan McDonald speaking to Julius Tendant. He's the 163 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: co president of ju V Productions, which he founded, was 164 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: his wife for all of Davis. You won't go step 165 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: up back and step a little bit about you, you know, 166 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: because of the fact that we're born in Austin, Texas 167 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: football player went to the University of Tulsa and then 168 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: there went did the acting bug coming to your life, 169 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: because you know, you know, when your football player get 170 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: a scholarship, you focused on being a football player. You know, 171 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: you just don't get a scholarship at a school like 172 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: the University of Tulsa because they like you. You had 173 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: to be good at what you do. And you know, Texas, 174 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm born and raised in Houston, Texas. I know football 175 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: is king here. So how did you go football star? 176 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: University of Tulsa acting because you're the first African American 177 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: to graduate from Tulsa School of Theater. That's right, that's right. Well, listen, man. 178 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: It was one of those things that started when I 179 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: was in junior high school and literally started with pros 180 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: and poetry because I'm I'm a poetry recitator. I still 181 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: recitative poetry to this day. And then off of that, 182 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: I started doing a lot of behind the scenes work 183 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: and then, uh, and then I started to have a 184 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: thirst to kind of want to be up there because 185 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: looking at my friends do and I said, well, thank 186 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: I can you know. So it started in junior high 187 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: school and then I just I just stayed with it. 188 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: I stayed with it even when I played. When I 189 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: got to Tulsa, I was a foot I was a 190 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: theater major, and like I said, and as you just 191 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: uh so eloquently pointed out, I'm the first African American 192 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: in the history of the University of Tulsa to graduate 193 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: from the theater program there, and so it was just 194 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: kind of always a national thing with me. Uh And 195 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm still I called myself producer actor 196 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: now because I still act here and there. I saw you, 197 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: I saw you, I saw you. But my producing is, 198 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, is the thing that's in front. But I 199 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: still take a little choice things here there. And so 200 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: I mean I'm in a really great position. And now 201 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: with everything that's going on with streaming, I can play 202 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: all kinds of different things and and now I can 203 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: wait for the quality things to come because my careers 204 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: changed now and that whole quest to want to be 205 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: a star, which I think all of us that get 206 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: into it initially though, you know, I want to be 207 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: a star, but it's not so much about being a 208 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: start that there's just being a working actor. And I 209 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: think that's the goal that you should always strive for, 210 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: just to be a working actor. And then let depundance 211 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: and let everybody else say who you are, how great 212 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: you are, whatever. It's just about working. And so that's 213 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: kind of always been my mantra is just work, if 214 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: it comes, if it's right, just do it. And now 215 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: we're producing, and we're producing the kind of content, uh, 216 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: for people of color across the diaspra and and and 217 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: and and and and and beyond um that can affect 218 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: people's lives and those human stories. So that's become the thing. 219 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: But man, I've always loved acting, and uh, and I'm 220 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: going to continue to do it. Here's an interesting thing 221 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: about just hearing your transition. You know, like I've said, 222 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, I would love talking to people like you, Julius, 223 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: because you know you've done so much. You just blow 224 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: through the whole arc, you know, like, well, you know 225 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: I've starting even hide there. You know, I like poetry, 226 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: and then I went to what you're told. So at 227 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: first Black the graduating theater and boot I'm here. No, no, no, no, 228 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: You're not gonna do my audience like that, because that's 229 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 1: why you're impressive to me, because we always because of 230 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: the fact that you know, you walk in the room, 231 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: you know you're the only one in there that's right, 232 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And we're tossed to Oklahoma. 233 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm from Texas, I know Oklahoma, Okay. And so because 234 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: I always that's always look at people going, well, you know, 235 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: just racism exist. Heck, yeah, hey, yeah it exists. You 236 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: know every time I walk in the room and they 237 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: know who I am. Okay, that's the difference maker. So, 238 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: but that didn't stop you from pursuing your dream because 239 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: of the fact that, again, Hollywood can be so far away, 240 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: Broadway can be so far away. When did you believe 241 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: this could be could be something that you felt you 242 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: could do? Well, you know what, you know, I think listen, Rashaan, 243 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: I think that you know, you always have a you know, 244 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: I always had this I I should say, to be successful. 245 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: My mom used to always say, how came you so 246 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: different from your other brothers and sisters? And I used 247 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: to say, well, I'm not any different. I just kind 248 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: of I'm looking at the given circumstance. I'm gotta know 249 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: what i want to do, and I'm not seeing that reflected. 250 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: And so I'm just gonna stay focused and stay on 251 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: the task and just keep moving forward one step at 252 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: a time. And then, obviously, you know, all these years 253 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: after being in l a for several years. Then I 254 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, then I finally meet by Ola Davis. We 255 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: meet on the City of Angels uh. And then after 256 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: that we have this wonderful friendship that becomes this relationship 257 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: by all of my best friends. So we support each 258 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: other tremendously. But if became that thing, uh, and then 259 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: that's how kind of the producing thing came in because 260 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: then I gotta take care of this immense talent. And 261 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: like when you when you're when you're in my position, 262 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: my wife knows who I am, so I have to 263 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: know who I am so that way I can take 264 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: care of her properly and then not feel diminished. I 265 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: think you only diminish yourself if you don't know who 266 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: you are, because if you don't know who you are, 267 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: certainly your woman's gonna know you don't know who you are. 268 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: And that hasn't been our case. And my wife has 269 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: always saying, you know, you're a hell of actor. You 270 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: need to you should just be acting. So I know what, 271 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: I'll take some choice stuff here there, but uh, you know, 272 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm running a company, I got nine employees, bust myself 273 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: and then whenever she's in helping out, when she's got 274 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: some breaks. That's that's it. But you know, I think Rashan, 275 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: you always it's a balance. You always have to know 276 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: win the hold him and win the fold them, right. 277 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is that you gotta know, hey, listen, uh, 278 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: I can't go away. I can't get a series regularly 279 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: something to be gone six months from the from the company, 280 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: right because well, because what I do for the company, 281 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: nobody else can do that. But I don't want to 282 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: run film, I don't want to run TV. I don't 283 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: want to run immersive and interactive UM. But I need 284 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: to be there because what I do and what I 285 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: bring is the passion of the company, the vision of 286 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: the company, and then I can set my guys up 287 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: for success. And so that's what I do. I'm not 288 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: a micro manager, but I believe in my folks and 289 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: then I give them the reins because if you're not 290 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: doing your job, I know you're not doing your job 291 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: and we're don't have a conversation. But when you're doing 292 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do, there's no lord and over you. 293 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: Let's go do this, Let's go get this for our people. 294 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: And so that's that's how we roll that's how I 295 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: roll and uh and it's and it's worked really beautiful 296 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: because listen, you get more sugar by giving things away, 297 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: then Lord and over people are making them feel like 298 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: crap and um. So you know, that's kind of been 299 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: another thing that just the way I do business right 300 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: about titles. I have an ego, but I don't have 301 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: an ego that prevents me from allowing other people to 302 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: shine cool. And you listen, you know, I really, you know, 303 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm one of those guys. I'm in a position that 304 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: I don't really go to movie theaters. I really don't, 305 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, you know, they go either gonna come to 306 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: my house because I'm I'm a voter, you know, US academies, 307 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, so I'm gonna get the movie I want 308 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: to see at my house. Now. When the woman king, 309 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: I looked at my daughter, look at my wife. I said, 310 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna. I said, we're gonna. We're gonna, you know, 311 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: And we were going because first of all, I support 312 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: my friends and I consider you a friend. And secondly, 313 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: you know Gina, who I love to death, as well 314 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: as the director. So there's a lot of pluses to this. 315 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: And when I walked in there you know my my daughter, 316 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: she's twenty five, my wife by my age, and uh, 317 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: just wonderful production, just wonderful storytelling about who we are. 318 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: How does one take a movie project like that, which 319 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: is idea and take to get it to the fort, 320 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: to get it to the big screen. How does that 321 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: process work? Let me tell you something, rich Shaun, you're 322 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: telling the story to Hollywood that's never been told before, 323 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: where you more dark skin and women being the lead. 324 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: And then all of these other black black people whether 325 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: they didn't have to depend on any white savior to 326 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: save them or do this. This was their world and 327 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: they had they did what they came and loaded a film. 328 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: Getting a film like this took us seven years. And 329 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: what I always say, and I say this to my 330 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: staff too, this right here the big ce courage. Courage 331 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: when you're doing something that's out of the box, that 332 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: hasn't been done in Hollywood before, and then you have 333 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: to go out there knowing you have a great product, 334 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: and then you have to find the right partners and 335 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: it might take a minute, but if you believe in 336 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: that thing, then you have to stick with it. And 337 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: that's what we did. And then we got some some 338 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: champions of the project over the over the course of 339 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: those seven years. And then finally, uh, you know, Sony 340 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: saw the value in this story. But trust me, it 341 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: was a fight. It was a fight for the budget. 342 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: It's a fight for the way the hair looks, as 343 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: a fight for makeup, is a fight for everything. But 344 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: we know you have something that's that's incredible and undeniable, 345 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: then you just stick with it. And that's what we 346 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: did because we knew that this story needed to get 347 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: out in the world, and we know we knew that 348 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: Hollywood has never done anything like this. So we're so proud, 349 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: and I'm so proud of all those women because here 350 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: I am, I'm I'm the one of the one the 351 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: only black man who was on that set. And seeing 352 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: these women execute at the highest level just absolutely and awesome, 353 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, to the cinematographer, to the first aid d 354 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: to uh, to Terry Lynn Shropture, a genus editor, I mean, man, 355 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: women have a footprint all over this thing, man. And 356 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: I was there to support my sisters, and then I 357 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: was there to support my brothers and sisters in Africa 358 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: because you know, they don't have a union there. And 359 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: then and then when you're in South Africa and you're 360 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: shooting a movie like this, Folks aren't used to seeing 361 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: the black man have a voice. Yeah, I'm the I'm 362 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: the producer of this movie, so I voice and and 363 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: my big thing for me, I'm I'm the conflict resolution 364 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: dude that can talk to anybody, because at the end 365 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: of the day, when that camera, when that camera turns on, 366 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: then you got a day to get you gotta with it. 367 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: When that green light comes on, you gotta you gotta 368 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: get it, man, because money is on the line, and 369 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: so when things are out of order, then you gotta 370 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: kind of try to put it in order and in 371 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: a way that's human and humane and uh, trying to 372 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: figure out what's what's happening, what's going on, resolve it 373 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 1: and then let's get on with I did, and I 374 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: believe in thanking everybody, from the guy that's king the 375 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: toilets during COVID when we were there, to the guy 376 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: pulling cords. Everybody is important and so for me, I'm 377 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: always gonna be that producer that's gonna always appreciate the 378 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: whole and try to bring levity and try to lift 379 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: people up when they're feeling like it's not happening my actors. 380 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes Gina was feeling like and I was always saying, 381 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: nosis that you got this. I'll tell my actors you 382 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: know what. I know it's hard and you're looking good. 383 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: Is hanging there you you're doing it, you know, because 384 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: sometimes you just need that. You need to hear a 385 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: voice saying that and so um that's you know, that's 386 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: kind of the way I operate. We'll be right back 387 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, 388 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. 389 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 1: If you haven't seen The Woman King, The Woman King 390 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: is available for pre order now. It's available to watch 391 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: at home on digital v O D. Uh. Definitely. I 392 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: always tell my friends or anybody who calls the show, 393 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: send me a banner, because you know me. You know, 394 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, you know I posed, brother, you know I posed, now, 395 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: so send me a bad people react to me when 396 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 1: I posed, So send me a banner so I can 397 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: get the word out about this because I didn't get 398 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: up know about this until I did my bio research 399 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: on you. There's money to be made on the v 400 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: O D and the and the pre says, so you 401 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: get that banner to me, man, I would put this 402 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: all in my social media, like I said, my whole 403 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: thing in my relationship with any especially people of color. 404 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: You guys are difference makers, and you you know you, 405 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: you'd be grinding so hard and violent, be acting so hard. 406 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: Y'all don't realize you when you're when you when the 407 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: cover pools back. We just looked back and awe. The 408 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: same thing with the woman King because the woman King, 409 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: I went there because we saw a black panther. Black 410 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: panther was a fantasy and it's still it's a great 411 00:21:53,960 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: fantasy for black women are powerful. This is reality. It's 412 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: just that story. Is why I said, you know some honey, 413 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: my daughter, we're going right now. The first first, you know, 414 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: give me a reserve to see, give me some popcorn. 415 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: Your boy going in. And that's why b just told you, brother, 416 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: don't worry about this. This part of the horse is 417 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: riding your way. And I posted everywhere, so I just 418 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: had to let you know that. Man. I know we 419 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: hadn't talked to a long time man, but I'd let 420 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: you know. Brother, Look you're both over here. Don't worry 421 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: about this, brother. You got a great project. And that's 422 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: the part of the grind we all need to hear 423 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: because sometimes people those slings and arrows and you don't 424 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: know why. And because of the fact when you raise 425 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: your head up, do you have the dump now on 426 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: a great project? Because I'm understand what goes into and 427 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of times when you see the 428 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: finished project, you know all the battles and all the 429 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: things that happened before this movement came to life. And 430 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: it's the hard work. And it was a very hard shoot, 431 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: and we ended up having COVID we have to shut 432 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: down for for a little over three weeks, three weeks 433 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: of a couple of days, and then we came back 434 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: to the task and then we got the film done. 435 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 1: But you know, there's all kinds of things that are 436 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: going on when you're in production, so many moving parts, 437 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: and you just kind of want to keep the train, 438 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: as I said, keep the train on the tracks, and 439 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: let's get her done. And that's that's what we did, 440 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: you know. And and and because we knew the importance. Everybody, 441 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: everybody and on this film understood the importance of this film, 442 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: and we didn't want to disappoint. We wanted to deliver 443 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: something that would have everything that that speaks to the 444 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,239 Speaker 1: human spirit. You know, everything is in this movie. So 445 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: that's why viscerally you're getting these gasps and laughs and pride. Right, 446 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 1: you just feel like, God, damn, this is us. If 447 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: we could come together like that, please we can. You know, 448 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: it's no limit to what we can do, you know. 449 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: And so that was that was the whole idea. Everybody 450 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: knew how important it wasn't we went and got it, 451 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: but it was important as we As we closed this interview, 452 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: thank you for giving me the time to interview Julius Um. 453 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: Methods that help you win? I always like to ask 454 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: people who would like you because you you you said 455 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: a little bitter, but just to hear, but have my audience, 456 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: what are some of the methods that help you win? Well, 457 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: you know what. One of the things is that you know, 458 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: you have to know who you are, you have to 459 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: know what it is you want to put into the world, 460 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: and then you have to be dedicated to do the 461 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: hard work to make it happen. Because it's only on 462 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: the other side of hard work that the success that 463 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: the money's gonna come. And so in our business it 464 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: can be really kind of fickle. But you have to 465 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: stay you have to stay focused, and you have to 466 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: know what it is you want to do, and then 467 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: you have to have the courage and samona to do 468 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: it because in our business sometimes to take seven years 469 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: to this one sometimes takes right. You believe in it 470 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: and you stick with it. Good things happen. Cool. Every Wednesday, 471 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: I have a newsletter goes out to six or six 472 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: thousand people, have an open rate of thirty seven percent. 473 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: Send me that badder brother second dropping in there so 474 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: I can put it on model million followers. I put 475 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: it on my linked in account. Hey, but I can 476 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: only accept and support greatness and what you and Bothered 477 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: doing man, not only inspires me and also younger people. 478 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure people have walked up to you you go, 479 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: you know you I spoke to you several years ago 480 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: when I was just an assistant or I was doing security, 481 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: or you go, huh, and you know because you're doing it, brother, 482 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: I know, I know it's happened to you. Do I 483 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: know it just trips you out. It happens to me. 484 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: I go, I go, okay, man, And they said, you 485 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: know you were the only producer eppisode that was Black 486 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: Owners set or executive producer. Black Owners said, there was 487 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: a man. Man, that's that's why I just gotta called 488 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: tip my hat. Brother. Let you know I'm tipping my 489 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: hat and said thank you. We're at the front line. 490 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,239 Speaker 1: You're a little bit further front than me, but I 491 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: love it, man, and I'm gonna support you. So get 492 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: those batteries to you. Know what, brother, though, I'm gonna 493 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: pull you up. I'm gonna throw you the rule and 494 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull you right up with you. You're gonna 495 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep doing this together. That's what we have 496 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: to do. We gotta pull each other up. We gotta 497 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: believe in who we are and then we have to 498 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: support one another. That's important. Julius, thank you for the time. Man. 499 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: Get those batteries to me. Man. I love you brother, 500 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: your smile is fantastic. And any time you need me 501 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: on the promotion and I'm there for you. Okay, appreciate you, 502 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: love your brother, take care of by bye.