00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. 00:00:13 Speaker 2: Thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how did you dare. 00:00:36 Speaker 3: To surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 4: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineger. We're here. I've received the forty seven notifications that it's time to begin the podcast. They've flooded my inbox, so we will begin. I just I need to quickly remind you it's simply a fact that there is podcast merchandise. That's a fact. It's on the internet. You know, it's a nice way to support the podcast. Just Google, I said, no, gift's merchandise. I cannot remember. The website on Lisa is not here today. They've fled. I don't know where they are. I'm praying for the return, but it's not my job to tell you what the website is. Just google it. Where do we go from here? My life is nothing. I'm picketing because I'm on strike, and then I play Zelda. I play a lot of that. I'm indulging, and for lunch I had two tacos. I went to Chipotle, So that's my existence. Let's get into the podcast. I adore today's guests. I think they're both so fantastic. It's Vanessa Beyer and Jonah Byer. 00:01:56 Speaker 1: Wow, we're thrilled to be here, so exciting. 00:01:59 Speaker 3: Yes, how are you? 00:02:00 Speaker 4: I'm doing very well. I never know with you two. I don't know to say Vanessa and Jonah Beyer or Vanessa Bayer and Jonah Beyer. When I say it just the last name once, it. 00:02:10 Speaker 1: Feels looks like we're maybe married. 00:02:11 Speaker 4: Mary, there's a real marriage. 00:02:15 Speaker 1: We are not married. We are brother and sister. 00:02:18 Speaker 4: Yes, first sibling duo on this podcast, and we're going to try to avoid it in the future. 00:02:23 Speaker 3: Wow. 00:02:26 Speaker 4: We're here in the studio or my back office, which has been flooding for most of the year, but it's now dry, not currently flooding. 00:02:34 Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm so sorry. 00:02:36 Speaker 4: Thank you, Jonah. How do you feel you're going. 00:02:38 Speaker 3: To I'm also sorry. Although this looks like a really nice office, like you got a full sized fridge there. 00:02:44 Speaker 4: Or what it's it's kind of a minuture. Well, I don't know what size of fridge this is. Actually, it's not full size it's maybe full size for a child, maybe like if you were eleven, this would feel full size. 00:02:56 Speaker 3: Okay, it looks nice, Thank. 00:02:58 Speaker 4: You so much. Okay, we got a sorrow. We got a nice compliment on my fridge. Feeling good. Jonah, you're in Massachusetts. 00:03:07 Speaker 3: Yes, western Massachusetts. 00:03:09 Speaker 4: Is it blanketed in smoke? 00:03:10 Speaker 3: Yeah? It's looking better today, but the last yesterday, last couple of days are pretty pretty intense. I never had experienced anything like that out here before. 00:03:19 Speaker 4: Vanessa, you're here in La. Everything's perfect. 00:03:21 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:03:22 Speaker 5: I just want to give a shout out to my one of my very best friends, Kitty Long, actually Kitty Long Mudo, Now, who is your biggest fan, Bridger? And she loves this podcast. And I know that she's been trying to get me on this podcast before I before I think you even had asked. 00:03:38 Speaker 1: I think she's you know, and she listens. 00:03:42 Speaker 5: She listens to Jonah and my podcast too, but honestly, I think if she could only listen to one, she'd choose yours. And I support I support her god Blood, but I also support our podcast. 00:03:52 Speaker 4: So okay, well, I've Kitty and I have both left one star reviews for your podcast. Trying to take it down, just trying to just troy in any way we can chipping away, slowly, chipping away. 00:04:03 Speaker 1: Wow. 00:04:05 Speaker 5: That's hard to hear, because again, she is one of my best friends. But the podcast world, the rules don't approach the rules of friendship do not apply. 00:04:15 Speaker 4: To another reality. It's a full different reality, and you two are enemies in the podcast community. Not my problem, it's not. 00:04:24 Speaker 1: My problem, not your problem at all. 00:04:28 Speaker 4: You two. What have you been doing that's exciting lately? 00:04:31 Speaker 3: I've been learning how to play banjo. Wow, So that's been really fun. Difficult for me, not so much for the other, for my wife, other people in the house. It's not the most captivating instrument to listen some and play the same thing over and over again poorly, But that's been kind of a fun activity for me. 00:04:49 Speaker 5: I just got a TV in my bedroom. Oh, and I'm absolutely thrilled about it. And we weren't allowed to have TV's in our room growing up, except my parents got me one for my birthday my senior year of high school, like a tiny TV, and I thought, this is incredible, and then I just you know, I'm forty one and I finally let myself get get a TV for the first time in my life since I was a senior in high school for one year when I had that, and a friend of mine reminded me that because I'm so excited about it, And a friend of mine reminded me that every room in my house is my room, so I should stop freaking out and bragging about how I have a TV in my room, because it's kind of like, once you're an adult, you make the rules. 00:05:34 Speaker 4: You're sure were the mom and dad here. 00:05:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can stay up as late as you want, you can eat what you want. 00:05:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And it's wowowow. 00:05:43 Speaker 3: You having a TV in your room. 00:05:45 Speaker 5: You were in college when I got it, and it was only it was just my senior year of high school, and then maybe it stayed in there, but I remember I would watch There was a show and I've looked up what it's called before, but I can't remember it now, But there was a show where this guy used to tell he used to read story like children's books and kind of draw them with charcoal on the wall, like draw out the story, okay, and then kind of halfway through the story he'd go, you have to buy the book to see the rest, and you go, I'm not going to buy the book, especially that was before the internet, like you truly have to go to a bookstore and go to the library. But it was really soothing to watch him in it was it was on PBS. It was called like page to promotion, picture page or something. 00:06:33 Speaker 3: It wasn't picture pages, no, no, no, no. 00:06:36 Speaker 1: It was for I would for an older audience. 00:06:38 Speaker 3: I think, got it. I I bridge. I don't want to take over this this section of the podcast, but I do just want to Vanessa, do you remember the wheel that black and white TV upstairs? So I had a TV in my room very briefly in high school, and it was really old, like from probably from the seventies, like curved edges, and I spilled a bottle of Nike will inside the TV and it made this probably made this weird smell, and so the TV wouldn't turn on, but the audio worked. And when I was in high school, this is gonna make me sound so old, I would just listen to episodes of NYPD Blue with no video and lie like I slept on a food time for some reason, and I would lie on this food time on the floor listening to NYPD Blue and using my imagination to make up what was happening on the screens. 00:07:23 Speaker 4: That sounds so soothing. Actually, yes, everyone should try it. Spilling. Isn't niquil a very slow moving liquid? What was the circumstances where it was able to get it? 00:07:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, it's very viscus. 00:07:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, this TV had a lot of events in it and it just went straight. Do I mean maybe my reflexes weren't as fast. I don't know, but I lost a lot of niquil in there, and it was never the same. 00:07:46 Speaker 4: Oh geez. I mean you both had TVs in your rooms. 00:07:49 Speaker 3: I briefly did, but mine was more of a radio technically. 00:07:54 Speaker 5: But we were a big NYPD blue house. I feel like everyone in our house really liked it. And I mean, this is a compliment. He's not going to take it this way if he hears it. But Jonah, do you know what I'm going to say? 00:08:05 Speaker 3: Our dad kind of resembles Sipowitz. 00:08:07 Speaker 5: Yeah, Dennis Franz, Yeah, that's a good look. 00:08:10 Speaker 1: Mustache just there's like a similar vibe. 00:08:13 Speaker 4: It's a very nice it's a cinematic look, very like someone just walked out of an old cop movie or something. 00:08:21 Speaker 5: But it was weird on NYPD Blue how they would take the main guy and just switch him out. I mean obviously they they didn't act like not like on a soap opera where it's just played by a new actor. 00:08:32 Speaker 1: But you know, it was the redhead guy, Caruso. 00:08:35 Speaker 4: I didn't know Ruso. 00:08:38 Speaker 1: Then it, yes, that was the first main guy. 00:08:40 Speaker 3: Then it was Jimmy Smith's Jimmy. 00:08:43 Speaker 5: Smith's, and then it was star of Silver Spoons Ricky Schroeder. 00:08:50 Speaker 3: I kin don't remember that. 00:08:51 Speaker 5: Ricky Schroeder I believe was the final, the third and final protagonist of NYPD Blue. 00:08:57 Speaker 1: Now someone can look this up and I. 00:08:59 Speaker 5: Could be absolutely wrong, but I remember being like, wow, they're not following like a type, or at least they anyway. 00:09:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Bridger, thank you for having us on your NYPD Blue fan podcast. 00:09:12 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Well episode one, so we love the pilot. I've actually never seen NYPD Blue. I always mix it up with Hill Street Blues. But what was that show that was also a cop Showy Street Blues? 00:09:27 Speaker 1: I feel like was the one where they were singing on it? Or am I wrong? 00:09:31 Speaker 3: I don't know? That was before our time. 00:09:33 Speaker 5: I think, oh, Okay, there's like a you know, there's those CNN documentaries that are like sitcoms, like or like movies or something, or the eighties that's what. Yeah, Oh, there was a whole series of like the eighties or the nineties, and then it was like the eighties colon sitcoms or TV or something. I feel like they talked about Hill Street Blues on it, and it's either Hill Street Blues or another show where those kind of detective dramas were doing really well and they decided to do one. 00:10:06 Speaker 1: That was a musical. 00:10:07 Speaker 5: And that's what I think Hill Street Blues was, And I think the Blues is like singing the Blues. But I could be absolutely wrong, and all of your listeners could be furiously writing you after this saying she doesn't know what the hell she's talking. 00:10:21 Speaker 4: Most of our listeners are the staff of Hill Street Blues the writer's room. Are they getting their passionate fans? No, that sounds like a horrible idea. I mean, does not seem like a good idea for a TV show. It's just like, who was the audience for a police musical? Simply not a good idea that I mean, it's tough. Wow, I hope you were hallucinating or something that feels bad. It feels bad to me. Well, what sort of what are you watching on your TV in the bedroom, Vanessa? 00:10:50 Speaker 5: Okay, Well, you know, unsurprisingly, last night I watched part three of the vander Pump Rules reunion because I'm obviously all taking up by Scanda. 00:11:00 Speaker 4: All people are going crazy for it. 00:11:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:11:03 Speaker 5: Yeah, And van what's her restaurant, Pump, Sir Pump. 00:11:08 Speaker 1: There's a few of them. 00:11:09 Speaker 4: Pump is shutting down, right, I think Pump. 00:11:12 Speaker 5: Is shutting down. And I think there was one called Villa Blanca. 00:11:17 Speaker 1: I think because her house is Villa Rosa. 00:11:19 Speaker 5: I think, Oh, but Villa Blanca I think shut down as well. But she's doing great because there's a restaurant in Vegas that she's partnered with at the Paris Hotel or something. 00:11:31 Speaker 1: It's called like Sir Paris. 00:11:35 Speaker 4: Does she have any connection to the food world or is this just the thing she needed a hobby? No? 00:11:40 Speaker 5: She she and her husband Ken, who's their restaurant tours? 00:11:45 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of their thing. 00:11:47 Speaker 5: And then she joined the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills as a restaurant tour and then the Spin off show was at one of her restaurants, sir, and that's vander pump Roules. And that's going to be good information for any of your listeners who don't know, who aren't familiar with where kind of the scandalval business all originated. 00:12:08 Speaker 4: Will you explain to me what scandalval even is. I've seen this word everywhere. I don't watch fandom rules anyway. 00:12:16 Speaker 5: It's somebody thought they were super clever, and honestly, I'd agree with them because it's this guy, Tom Sandoval and he was involved in a scandal and that's scandabal. 00:12:25 Speaker 1: And I know you weren't. 00:12:26 Speaker 5: Asking about the name specifically, but just to give you a really brief rundown. And you know, I know, I keep referencing the listeners and they're like, we get it. 00:12:34 Speaker 1: We know we're listening. 00:12:34 Speaker 4: Atil O, they're listening to Jonah's TV. 00:12:38 Speaker 5: Basically, there's this couple but Tom Sandval had a girlfriend for nine years, but her quote unquote best friend started having an affair with her boyfriend months for months and months and months, and then after the season was done filming of this reality show, it came out that their affair was happening and they immediately started filming again an extra episode once it had happened, which is really funny because vander Pump Rules that cast is like just a little there. If it would have been a Real Housewives cast, they would have been like, no way, we're not going to film again. But vander Pump Rules. They love, you know, they love they're younger and they love to be on TV. And they got right back in. And so I think everyone's it's just it's juicy juice, you know. 00:13:29 Speaker 4: And how did it wrap up? Was there any conclusion or is it just well? 00:13:32 Speaker 5: There was a three part reunion, the third part of which aired last night, But then also there were some one on one interviews where Andy Cohen would interview the players in it kind of individually, and then you know. 00:13:45 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, talk about podcasts. I think each. 00:13:47 Speaker 5: Member has their own podcast. Inns is really really going going wild. People are really crazy for it, and I think Bravo is thrilled because it's the tenth season of this show that could have kind of gone off into you know, ten seasons. 00:14:02 Speaker 1: Hard to keep it. Oh yeah, exciting, but wow. 00:14:05 Speaker 4: They've given a new life. Thank you Scanda all, thank you sandival Let me ask you to your siblings, did you ever get in physical fights when you were kids? 00:14:15 Speaker 1: Not really, we weren't really allowed to do that. That wasn't really a thing. 00:14:20 Speaker 3: No, I don't think I got in physical fights with anyone, like even like kids at school. 00:14:27 Speaker 4: So yeah, I only ask because I have three siblings, and maybe I'm just remembering in a big way, but I remember all of us constantly getting in physical fights with each other in ways they're like that feels dangerous to me? 00:14:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like attacking each other. 00:14:43 Speaker 5: We would get in like insult fights, like Jonah found himself to be quite an insult comedian, And we would do physically dangerous things like ride down the stairs on a pillow. 00:14:54 Speaker 4: Oh of course, get a sleeping bag and I'm on my way. 00:14:57 Speaker 1: Right, ride right down those stairs right. 00:15:00 Speaker 5: You know there's a closet just barely two feet away from a lot of the stairs, so you're slamming right into that closet door. 00:15:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know. I mean it feels like, honestly, looking back our our childhood's like quite wholesome. Like we at another thing that we had that may Vanessa I haven't talked about a while, is we had like a tetherball, like we. 00:15:21 Speaker 1: Had yeah. 00:15:24 Speaker 3: Yea yeah, like you see in a playground and it came with the house. We had a basketball hoop and then we had this kind of like tire with like a big pole and a tether ball, and we would like play tetherball a lot, although it kind of becomes a thing where if you're taller than the other person, you just like throw it over their head and it becomes really unfun for them. But uh, but we would do stuff like that. I mean, like I said, it was pre internet, so we would you know, after school, you're playing tetherball or you're shooting some hoops or I don't know. And then I got into music, so I was going to punk shows a lot and like playing guitar and that kind of stuff. 00:15:56 Speaker 4: What is the goal of tetherball? 00:15:59 Speaker 5: The goal of teather ball is to be the person who gets the ball to wrap around in the direction they're hitting it. So it's like you're hitting it one way and the other person is across from across the tire from you as it were, and across the pole, and he's trying to get it their way. And if you, like Jonah said, if you're taller than them. You can kind of get it into a pattern where it goes above the other person's head and then comes kind of and you can just keep hitting it above their head. And because I'm someone who was like five foot six since I was in like fourth grade and all my friends were like so short and little when we were that young, we'd go back there and I'd. 00:16:35 Speaker 1: Just cream them. 00:16:37 Speaker 3: BRIDGERD did you ever play tetherball, like at school or anything? 00:16:42 Speaker 4: We would play with the tether ball. Let's call it a machine. It's ultimately a machine. I think like the kids would just stand around and just screw around with the ball in a way of like just throwing it. But I never I don't remember ever playing like, Okay, let's there's a beginning an end to this tether ball. 00:16:59 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's seems like it's not as much of a thing anymore. Like I don't know if kids today have teatherball, know what it is, I don't know. You don't see it around, right. 00:17:11 Speaker 5: It's it's weird that it isn't around still because it's really safe, you know, Like I feel like a lot of unsafe things have come out of backyards. 00:17:18 Speaker 4: But yeah, right, you would think a tetherball would be in everybody's backyard. But I guess you was yours full of concrete or whatever. 00:17:25 Speaker 3: There was something in it. I think in the tire something like that, Yeah, weighing it down, because I don't remember it ever tipping over, So I think there was something in it. But like I said, I can't picture our parents like building it. I think it literally came with the house. 00:17:38 Speaker 1: We might get too. I do too. 00:17:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, they are kind of hideous. They have kind of a yeah it's prison yard esthetically. 00:17:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little bit of an eye sore. I agree. That is a good point. Maybe that's why you don't see Maybe a lot of people don't have them in there. 00:17:52 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I've never seen a home renovation show where someone's like flipping a house and they put in a tetherball set up in the backyard. 00:18:01 Speaker 1: Draw buyers. 00:18:04 Speaker 4: You put in a giant pole in a thing of cement. No, I never played. I don't think i've Outside of basketball. I've never completed another game, another sport game. And the way I'm even describing this is so humiliating. Never hit a baseball, I mean, my sports resume is just humiliating. Did you run, didn't run, just simply did nothing with myself. 00:18:34 Speaker 5: I think because you're sort of a redhead like us, I just assume you did the same sports and stuff that we did, which was mostly running. 00:18:43 Speaker 4: You too on like track and field. 00:18:45 Speaker 5: Cross country a little bit, and Jonah was much faster than me. I kind of just liked it because you could just run in the competitions. You just run into the woods and you could just kind of take your time and just do whatever and no one's watching you. And I thought track and field was too presentational. 00:19:04 Speaker 4: Is track and field does it involve like the other things where you're throwing a spear? 00:19:10 Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, Jo the Olympic, Olympic type stuff. 00:19:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about this because I was tall. 00:19:19 Speaker 5: When I was in middle school, they had me throwing that because I was so slow running, they would have me throw a okay, discus, that's what I was going to say, a discus, but it's there's like a metal ball that you throw, and it was like all the tall girls. 00:19:35 Speaker 3: You spin around and then you throw it. 00:19:37 Speaker 1: Huh maybe. 00:19:38 Speaker 5: And it was funny just because they associated tall with being athletic, and for most people that actually turned out, it was like if you were tall and you wanted to do a sport, you were probably athletic. But I was tall and just wanted to hang out with my friends and was. 00:19:56 Speaker 1: Not athletic at all. 00:19:57 Speaker 5: And then as everyone started sort of get to my height, it was very became very apparent that all I could do was run slowly in the woods. 00:20:09 Speaker 4: God bless, Yeah, I just have I played basketball for a couple of years, made everyone kind of sad that was watching me, and then moved on. Did some ballroom dancing, and that was. 00:20:20 Speaker 5: Aboute you had ballroom dancing? Did everyone take ballroom dancing? 00:20:24 Speaker 4: No, it was a pretty select group. It was when you know, like the nineties swing revival. Okay, okay, this bizarre period of time. It was then, so it kind of felt cool, which, yeah, is baffling. 00:20:38 Speaker 5: Well, we there's a clean there's a it's very Cleveland thing. And my mom has explained it to me before. But excuse me, our mom has explained it to me before. But ballroom dancing was really big when we were in middle school. And it's because, uh, I don't know, it was just like a tradition only in Cleveland, and because we had it was like in sixth grade, and then in seven grade, we had barn about mitzvahs almost every weekend, but you wouldn't do ballroom dancing at them. But somehow it was sort of like in sixth grade, all the kids do ballroom dancing because they need to learn for you know, God knows why. But it was a big thing in our middle school, and everyone else is like, that's so weird that you did that. 00:21:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, to need that like a for a life prep, like to have that in your back pocket just in case it's a dangerous situation that you have to ballroom dance out or something. 00:21:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was weird. It was very bizarre, and yeah, I felt like it went on forever. You'd have to go every week. You'd have to, like I'd go with a couple of my friends. We'd have to get dressed up, and then like the teacher would show stuff and then we get paired up with people. And I remember just like never really wanting, but feeling like this was this thing I was obligated to do. And then it was skills that I never really learned and never once in my life used as an adult or even I think even during that era. I mean, it was like such a complete kind of waste of time. 00:22:00 Speaker 4: Like, what scenario is anyone ballroom dancing in great question? 00:22:05 Speaker 3: I mean this is also this was like the nineties. It wasn't like the fifties. Like I don't know, I don't know. It's bizarre. 00:22:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's very very odd. But now, I mean, it's nice to know you I can count on YouTube for a partner. Should I run into situations, well, look we have to get into something else. I need to confront you too. It's very excited to have you two on the podcast. Thought siblings, wonderful. We're gonna have a good time. Nothing will happen. We'll move on. The podcast is called I said no gifts, so I was furious to recently open a gift that up. Yeah, it is a gift. I'm just gonna say it is a gift. I know it's a gift because it's in this gift bag out of this kind of material. I don't know if either of you have ever felt one of these bags. It's indestructible. It feels like something that you would have on a military lexite or something. I don't know, it's a gift and I'm uh sure, what's the deal. 00:23:07 Speaker 5: Well, we we couldn't show up to this zoom. 00:23:12 Speaker 4: Everyone knows the first rule of zooming. 00:23:16 Speaker 1: Virtually at your house without sending a gift. 00:23:20 Speaker 4: Oh that's decent logic. Well, you know, do you want me to open it here on the podcast? 00:23:26 Speaker 1: I personally would love that. 00:23:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be incredible. 00:23:44 Speaker 4: Okay, well let's get into it. It has a little card here that says we hope you love this gift Bridger from Vanessa and Jonah. So we'll see what happens once I opened the gift. I'm gonna put the microphone down and well let's see if I can do it one hand. And it's got a ribbon. 00:23:59 Speaker 1: Let's see. 00:24:06 Speaker 4: It's a tissue wrapped Wow. 00:24:09 Speaker 3: Okay, wow, that's it's extentsive tissue. 00:24:16 Speaker 1: Look that it's wrapped in tissue. 00:24:18 Speaker 4: Oh what does Oh my god, this is gorgeous. This is a beautiful. It's a trapper keeper with uh some sort of big cat on it. Maybe a leopard, a cheetah, kind of a neon color. Let's see what do you think that is? Actually? Is that a leopard? 00:24:40 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, tiger, I think a purple tiger. It's not a tiger. 00:24:50 Speaker 5: It is this I think it is a cheetah because that's I think has spots like that. 00:24:56 Speaker 4: Right, well, let's assume it. 00:24:59 Speaker 1: Where is it has more of a stripe? 00:25:01 Speaker 4: Right? Tiger has a stripe because people. 00:25:03 Speaker 1: Say tigers don't change their stripes. 00:25:06 Speaker 4: I was going to say leopards don't lose their spots, but that's definitely don't lose their spots. 00:25:11 Speaker 6: Is not a same chee does don't lose their spots. It's somewhere between a cheetah. Did say on it like cheetah cheata? 00:25:23 Speaker 3: I think it's a leopard. 00:25:24 Speaker 4: I think it actually does. It does say cheetah, cheetah. They specify you. 00:25:33 Speaker 5: You know how we should have known is because of Chester that cheetah of Cheetos has spots like that. 00:25:38 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, ds we could also maybe know from going to school. 00:25:48 Speaker 4: No, no, no, well this is exciting. I mean, are you two doing your back to school shopping? What's going on? Well? 00:25:56 Speaker 5: I I think we were sort of hoping to promote our podcast, which is really nostalgic, and we thought, oh, what better way than to sneak something nostalgic to Bridger and then it'll naturally come up. 00:26:08 Speaker 3: Vanessa, what's our podcast? Called again. 00:26:10 Speaker 1: Oh, it's called how Did We Get Weird? 00:26:13 Speaker 5: With Jonah Bayer and Vanessa Bayer And you know, every week we have guests on Bridger. You've been a guest and we talk about nostalgic times, topics, all kinds of things and it's a lot of fun and you can listen to it wherever you get your podcasts. 00:26:27 Speaker 4: All of that's being edited out. We're gonna edit white always over. That just be kind of a tornado sound. No, I was on it. We talked about like witch games, like oh yeahship is a board, so fun, wonderful podcast. Did either of you? I assume both of you must have had trapper keepers, you know what. 00:26:46 Speaker 3: I always wanted one, and to be honest, I felt like we were never really allowed to get them, you know what I mean? Like I felt like I saw other kids at school with them, and I always wanted them, and I feel like I had much more generic, solid color, simple stuff. I don't know, can you two relate to that? 00:27:04 Speaker 4: I can. Actually I don't want to slander my mom, but I don't think I was really allowed to. I think I ended up just getting a solid color I think we were allowed to the folders inside we got to do fun ones. 00:27:16 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, yes. 00:27:18 Speaker 4: Trapper keeper itself. I think my oldest brother always got one that had like three D pyramids or yeah, ever on it, but I don't remember having one I was getting. 00:27:29 Speaker 3: I just remember having those five star notebooks. It's like you can have blue or red, and it's like, well, that's not really those are really exciting to me. 00:27:38 Speaker 1: I had those five star notebooks and I loved them. 00:27:40 Speaker 5: I think the thing that stressed me out about trapper Keepers, and this was I would sort of obsess over the fact that we'd have certain Remember how you had a list at the beginning of the school year of like what school supplies you needed, and I would really want to stick to the list and it would be like five folders, six notebooks, whatever, And then people are coming in with these trapper keepers and I'm going, where the hell did you see that on the list? 00:28:07 Speaker 1: It stressed me out. I'm like, oh, what don't we just get whatever we want now? 00:28:11 Speaker 5: It really the other thing that I couldn't believe that people would figure out. 00:28:15 Speaker 1: It would be like, remember you had to get book. 00:28:17 Speaker 5: Covers, and people would make them out of out of grocery bags. 00:28:24 Speaker 1: And I'm going, where did you get this skill? What is this? What am I am? I going to math class or engineering class? 00:28:31 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'm with you because I if anyone's ever seen me try to wrap a present, it looks like it's so rough. And these yeah people who are just taking a piece of from the newspaper and this perfect book cover, Like, yeah, how is that happening? 00:28:47 Speaker 4: My mom had to do it, like my gift wrapping skills. If you watch me wrapping a gift, you would think I'm not a functioning person. It's humiliating. 00:28:56 Speaker 3: I know, it's It's one of those things you either have it or you don't, just have never had. And you sound like you're probably unwrapping a lot of gifts. 00:29:03 Speaker 4: I'm unwrapping gifts constantly. Yeah, yeah, constantly unwrapping. No, I like I remember always going to school, like Vanessa you were saying, no matter what I brought, I was always there was always somebody who had, Like I bring the sixty four crayon, somebody's got two hundred and fifty six. Yes, yeah, there was always some kid who had the most cutting edge school supplies. 00:29:23 Speaker 5: Totally, totally, And I do I remember the coolest thing I ever got was one time Jonah and I we went with our family to like Washington, DC, and we went to the Smithsonian. And I remember at the Smithsonian gift shop, I got two folders that were kind of what you were saying your brother had Bridger. I think that were holographics. So one was like purple holograms and one with silver. And I remember being like, this is, you know, as good as it gets in terms of life and school supplies. 00:29:57 Speaker 4: What were those doing at the Smithsonian? 00:30:00 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, good question. Okay, those aren't the only things I got. I got those two folders, I know, did I make this up? I got those two folders, and then I got some gems, if I'm being honest, some beautiful gems in a little jewelry box. 00:30:15 Speaker 1: I got one god, what was it? 00:30:18 Speaker 5: It was like amethyst or something, and then maybe one little fool's gold. And I thought, I guess I'm coming out of here a rich woman, because I basically bought the best stuff that Amazon, that best stuff that the Smithsonian has, you know, on. 00:30:36 Speaker 1: Loan or whatever. 00:30:38 Speaker 4: I bought this on loan from. 00:30:42 Speaker 5: I thought, oh, I guess I could go to one of the exhibits that's okay, or go to the gift store that rocks and get all the jewels and stuff for myself. 00:30:51 Speaker 4: Did you two every year get new clothes for school? That to me is a fascinating thing that like once a year I would just have a new wardrobe to unveil. 00:31:02 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I remember going with my mom to a little place called Marshalls. Oh and Marshall's and TJ Max, But I remember Marshalls. Yeah, we would go and just yeah, get T shirt and dad like get the whole thing. Because yeah, because I guess you're growing so fast that you kind of yes, our growing stuff. But yeah, Marshall's was kind of our go to spot. I do, and I can't remember. I feel like part of me didn't like it and then part of me was kind of excited about it at the same time. 00:31:29 Speaker 5: Yeah, probably mixed mixed feelings because you were a little bit of a fashionista. 00:31:33 Speaker 1: Jonah. 00:31:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's tough when you're at that age where like you can't exact, you can't pick out your own clothes exactly, but you kind of have ideas of what you like, so you have to go with it. You kind of have to get from you're in that kind of transitionary stage to you can dress how you want. And I remember that being a little bit tough. 00:31:53 Speaker 1: Well also our mom. 00:31:54 Speaker 5: I don't know if you recall this, but like Bridger, there was of course the back to school shopping and all of that stuff. But I remember now I'm having a memory of our mom being like, we could get you all year back to school clothes now at the beginning of the year, or we could buy them throughout the year and then you can, you know, And I remember being like, Oh, she's really smart. 00:32:13 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let's buy them throughout the year. 00:32:15 Speaker 5: And wouldn't you know that for Hanukkah one year, so smack dab and you know, the holiday season, I got this outfit from Limited Too. This was when we first discovered Limited Too, and Jonahs heard me talk about this before. It was a pair of almost blindingly small checkered pants like that would vibrate when you would even look at them. Checkered pants, A big white sweater were over it, a big long necklace on a black cord, was some kind of pendon at the bottom, and then a black beret and I wore it to I don't know, third grade or fourth grade, and I just felt like I've made it. Okay, I'm walking around with my limited to complete outfit, including a beret, and if anyone has an issue, they can absolutely fuck off. 00:33:09 Speaker 4: Were you allowed to wear the beret a school? 00:33:12 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:33:12 Speaker 5: In fact, I someone made fun of it in class and our teacher said, I think Vanessa looks really great in her beret, and everyone was like yes, and I remember being like, thank you, and I was not for one second embarrassed. I was more like, although, to be honest with you, I don't remember wearing the beret more than once, so maybe maybe I wasn't quite as confident as I remember being, but I do remember the teacher immediately stood up for me and was really supportive of me wearing the beret. 00:33:40 Speaker 3: That's so cool, you know, Vanessa. Somewhere else we went was Kids are Us, and then I ended up working at that Kids r Us as I see eighty. Yes, I was. I did work sometimes as a cashier. This was a phase of my life where I was wearing really big jinka. I had like some facial piercings, like a shaved head, and I had this. I remember I had to wear this blue vest, and it was me and all these like kids into punk from other schools all happened to all be like, we should all work at this kids are us? And I remember doing almost nothing. We would go in the back in the stock room and play basketball with like garbage cans. I just kind of stood around. 00:34:22 Speaker 4: In jink Did they allow you to wear the drinkos? To kids are? 00:34:25 Speaker 3: They did allow me to wear the jinkos. And then what's so funny is that my senior of high school. I think I've told a story too, I called off work because I was gonna be playing with this musician who went to our school. She got a show on our morning news, and so we were like her backing band, and I went out, I called in or didn't show to I don't remember what I did, and went and played on the news, and I was wearing one of those Dare shirts. 00:34:50 Speaker 4: Oh right, of how ironic. 00:34:53 Speaker 3: I played in my Dare shirt. And it was so funny because I was like, yeah, I was like really into like unk and hardcore, and this musician she sounded like just like Tori Amos, so it was already weird. And we like got to meet the newscasters and we're hangout. And then I went to work and they were like, we saw you in the news. And then I was like, or they called me and we saw the news. I was like, They're like, why don't you just tell if you were going on the news and I was like, uh, I don't know, and they were basically like your fire. They're basically like, you don't have to come back into work anymore. But I think I was leaving to go to college anyways. But I was also eighteen and so unaware of like how to actually handle things. Like I was like, I'll just lie and just go on TV and probably it'll be fine. 00:35:36 Speaker 5: It's funny because this was the plot of an episode of Saved by the Bell where he skipped school to go to a baseball game, but he says it's a Jewish holiday and that's why he can't go. And it's funny that you didn't learn from that because we didn't watch Save by the Bell at that time. 00:35:50 Speaker 3: I should have learned. I should have learned from Save by the Belt. But yeah, that was that brought end to my career. Kids are us sadly? 00:35:56 Speaker 1: Oh, I am a little bit of real shame. One thing that Jonah. 00:36:00 Speaker 5: I don't even know if you remember this about me, but there was a brief period of time in tenth grade when I was on the Nordstrom fashion board. 00:36:08 Speaker 4: What I. 00:36:11 Speaker 5: Do not know that no, so our mall got a Nordstrom department store when I was in high school, and they said, like, there was these ads like you could be on the fashion board. 00:36:22 Speaker 1: So I applied. 00:36:24 Speaker 5: I applied and it was clearly like a marketing thing, but I applied, and I remember they interviewed me and they were like, who's your hero? And I gave this like impassionate speech about my mom and I was like, she's my hero, and I gave this really hot and then I and then I found it. Come to find out, everyone who interviewed got it. And then what you had to do was you just once a month got to go to these kind of seminars at the mall at night when it was closed, when the store was closed. 00:36:57 Speaker 4: One it is cool. 00:36:59 Speaker 5: One time taught us about the mannequins and how you dress them. And another time it was like a person from Mac Makeup who gave a tutorial. 00:37:07 Speaker 1: And then I can't remember. 00:37:09 Speaker 5: Then I kind of stopped going and they were like you have to go or you're gonna get kicked out, And. 00:37:14 Speaker 1: I was like God. 00:37:15 Speaker 5: But the other thing that you could do that I never got to do, and I'm sad about this is they would sometimes call you in like on a Saturday. To this feels like such a dated thing that I don't think they do at stores anymore, but to model the clothes, so to like put on an outfit and just walk around the store and kind of try and show people that you're were the which there was also a fur shop at our malla at Beechwood Place where women would do that, where it would be like a woman walking around in a fur coat kind of. 00:37:45 Speaker 1: Just like walking by you. 00:37:46 Speaker 5: And I don't even know why I know that because I don't ever remember going into the store, but. 00:37:52 Speaker 1: That was kind of like an ad. 00:37:53 Speaker 5: That's kind of a thing that I don't think happens anymore, And that people walk around modeling the clothes in the store. 00:37:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you were in a coat in the mall, you're in dangers. Nothing about them makes any sense. 00:38:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very very stronge, very weird. 00:38:08 Speaker 1: Just walking around Nordstrom in an outfit from BP. 00:38:11 Speaker 4: The fashion board, to me, makes it sound like you're going to get to make some calls. 00:38:15 Speaker 1: You know, like right, I think that's what I thought. 00:38:18 Speaker 5: I thought maybe it was going to be almost like I'm going to be on a little computer and I'm going to be talking to the sales manager at something and picking out outfits in New York or something, and rather you're just going to these little seminars and yeah, not as prestigious. It made its way onto my college application, though, it did. 00:38:39 Speaker 4: I think, so you seem though you were kicked off. 00:38:43 Speaker 5: Well, I think I said like past experience, and I put like cross country, you know, Northstern Fashion Board. 00:38:50 Speaker 4: Did you have a Mervins in your area? 00:38:54 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 00:38:55 Speaker 1: No. 00:38:56 Speaker 4: It's such a mysterious department store because it wasn't just like a West Coast thing. It was just I don't know how the strategy for where they put them. But some people have never heard of Mervins, like it doesn't exist, and then other people's you know, part of the family. 00:39:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never heard of Mervins. What it's like a department store. 00:39:13 Speaker 4: It's like a department it was. It was a department store, like it was probably like J. C. Penny level, maybe one's half a step below J. C. 00:39:22 Speaker 3: Penny. 00:39:23 Speaker 4: Okay, and then at some point they tried to rebrand as Mervyns California, like as a desperate last attempt to seem fashionable and are now out of business. 00:39:34 Speaker 1: Okay, okay. 00:39:36 Speaker 4: But when I started, I had to start a corporation and escort and I thought, oh, I should just name it Mervin's, and my lawyer said go for it, And so now I own I'm the president of Irvins, which feels incredible. I mean, congratulation. This is going to lead to a seasoned to sist or something. 00:39:55 Speaker 1: How exciting. 00:39:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very exciting for me. It's it's really a full circle thing, very really exciting. 00:40:02 Speaker 5: I think there's nothing more fun than naming your es corp. And I'll tell you the name of mine if you'd like. 00:40:07 Speaker 4: I would love to know. 00:40:08 Speaker 5: Well, it's called the First Todd Ink. And it's because we talk about this on our podcast a lot. It's because our dad thinks he's the first person to ever be named Todd. So I have a bunch of credit cards that say the first todd Ink in them on them. 00:40:23 Speaker 4: I mean, there's decades of evidence that there's there must be other Todds. 00:40:29 Speaker 1: You know, I haven't looked in a while. I tried. 00:40:31 Speaker 5: I actually try to kind of avoid it so as to not burst his bubble. But I do believe that my dad, my grandparents, excuse me, Jonah, our grandparents are We're. 00:40:41 Speaker 4: Trying to take ownership of the family in a very strange way. I know. 00:40:46 Speaker 5: Had an original thought that Todd had only been a last name up until they decided to make it a first name. But I just think other people had that thought as well. But he will say, anyone who's named Todd that's older than him is named actually is actually named Theodore, but they started calling themselves Todd after he was born. 00:41:06 Speaker 4: I have an uncle Todd. How old I would say, he's in he's close to seventy, maybe early seventies. 00:41:14 Speaker 3: Held you, Yeah, our dad is our dad was born in nineteen fifty. 00:41:19 Speaker 5: Yeah, so he's almost seventy three. 00:41:23 Speaker 4: Wow, they might be so. 00:41:24 Speaker 5: I think your our dad probably edges him out in age just the little bit. 00:41:29 Speaker 4: Uncle totally. 00:41:30 Speaker 5: Our dad was born and your uncle could have been in a neighboring hospital and they go, oh, who do you guys birth today? 00:41:39 Speaker 1: Oh, you know that's how they talk the medical. 00:41:43 Speaker 5: You know, the nurses and the doctors, Susie Todd's and some todd We're about to name our son. 00:41:50 Speaker 1: What okay? How wew we feel free? I don't know. Yeah, they are the ones that thought of it. 00:41:56 Speaker 4: It caught on like wildfire. It was just immediately people were just Todds all over the nation. Well, I'm proud of your dad and he really stands by that. 00:42:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah he does, and he's been doing in our whole life. And it's something that we actually really love to talk about because it is a really good kind of encapsulation of his personality. It's very kind of funny and also a little bit off the wall. And yeah, it's it's great. 00:42:24 Speaker 4: That's very sweet. Was there a period when you two were like you met secretly and you're like, I don't think dad is the first Todd. No. 00:42:32 Speaker 3: I mean we got grilled pretty hard by Tom Sharpling about it years ago. Yeah, years ago, And yeah, I think we just kind of, you know, try not to look too hard into the research and just accept it, because you know, the thing is is it does sound you know, unlikely on paper, but someone has to be the first Dood. There has to be someone. Yeah, that's very true, right. 00:42:56 Speaker 5: And some might say that Todd Runggren is a year older than our dad, but Theodore that have exactly and and and here's the thing about that too, is that something really mysterious happened, which was that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame happens in Cleveland, and sometimes our parents go, and they like to go to the like to the induction ceremony if they can, if they can, you know, sometimes they'll go. And the year that Todd Runggren was supposed to get inducted, which was a few years ago, he canceled last minute. And my dad said, well, well, well, how mysterious that the year that Todd Runggren might have to come face to face with the actual first Todd, he canceled. So like our dad took it as Todd Runggren kind of whimping out of meeting the first time. Like that's probably why he canceled, because he didn't want to have to admit that he's not really the first Todd documented first Tod. 00:43:53 Speaker 4: That's the only explanation for that. 00:43:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, have you. 00:43:57 Speaker 4: Two been to the Rock and Roll what is that rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Yeah, what's that experience? 00:44:03 Speaker 3: Like I would say, it's cool to go once and check it out, And my memory is the exhibits don't get changed up all that often, so if you go once, you're probably good for a while. But there used to be a thing where if you were in a band, which I was in bands for a long time, if you showed a laminate or show proof that you were in a band and on tour, they would let you in for free. 00:44:26 Speaker 1: Oh interesting, So I didn't know that. 00:44:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we did it what my old band did it once and even though we were from Cleveland, I think, but yeah, you could. They really did. I don't know if they still do, but they That's that was a real thing. There was another thing you could do that bands used to do that I don't know if you can still do. Speaking of Chipotle is yes, know what you're gonna say. You could call them and if you were a band on tour sometimes they would give you free food if you called ahead what Chipotle? Yeah, Like we'd we'd be out with bands and some would be would call and be like pretend to be like their manager and be like, I'm so and So's manager. We're coming through town for a show tonight at this place, Like the guys are really hungry, like we're gonna be you know, it would it be cool for you guys to like hook us up? And sometimes it works, sometimes it definitely didn't work. And then my final thing I'll say is that I did meet a guy in a very big band who I was friends with, who also went to an award show and got a silver Chipotle card that we give you for Chipotle every day. 00:45:24 Speaker 4: Fucked. 00:45:25 Speaker 3: So Chipotle, the rock Call they hook up musicians or they did, like twenty years ago. I don't know if they still. They're right now home by CEOs who don't care about the arts and just care about the bottom line. 00:45:34 Speaker 5: Okay, was it the Chipotle at the rock and roll? No, it was it by unrelated. 00:45:39 Speaker 3: To unrelated unrelated, But but these were kind of things you do if you were in a band. You try to get for Chipotle, you try to go to the rock Call. And these were things that really worked. 00:45:49 Speaker 4: The idea of there even just being a phone in a Chipotle sounds so bizarre me. Just the hook in the middle of a Chipotle, I know. 00:45:56 Speaker 3: And yeah, and these and I remember going our friends would have this whole like this whole thing they would tell the managers and yeah, I mean it was, it was a whole production. 00:46:05 Speaker 4: I'm going to try that. I mean, you should try it. I imagine it's probably impossible to get through to a Chipotle at this point. 00:46:11 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:46:11 Speaker 5: It's also like who is allowing it, Like who makes that final decision? 00:46:16 Speaker 4: Is the manager the manager? 00:46:19 Speaker 3: It's a manager call. I think it's just a manager's call. There was a manager with the Yeah, there was, because the's the Chipotle, and these silver cards were a thing where they would give them out to celebrities and stuff. And I remember my friend who had one was like, I go Chipotle every day. I go Chipotle in the movies every day because I think he also got some kind of free movie card and he had a maid. I mean, this is yeah, that's a way to do it. 00:46:44 Speaker 4: I think if you just call, if you were able to get through to a Chipotle at this point and ask for free food, they would give it to you regardless. 00:46:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd congrats. Yeah. 00:46:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to imagine what I would feel like if I ate Chipotle every. 00:46:56 Speaker 4: Day, You'd be on top of the world, absolutely on top of the world. Okay, well I have my trapper keeper has a cheetah on it. It's incredible, It's beautiful. I'll be able to organize all of my sheets, all of my work sheets, my crosswords, all of your worksheets, yeah, my word searches. Oh yes, truly the worst invention. What a piece of crap. I think we should play a game. 00:47:28 Speaker 1: I'd love that. 00:47:29 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 00:47:30 Speaker 4: We're gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse. But I need a number between one and ten from you. 00:47:36 Speaker 3: Three. 00:47:36 Speaker 4: Okay, I was gonna say, oh, incredible, gorgeous. I have to do some light calculating. So right now, and although you already tastelessly promoted your podcast, you can do it again. Promote whatever you want, recommend whatever you want. I'll be right back. 00:47:51 Speaker 5: Okay, we've got a podcast, and wow, Jonah, isn't it the best? 00:47:56 Speaker 3: It's the best. It's called how did We Get Weird? I'm Big Money Players Network and you can check it out everywhere you get podcasts. We've had some great episodes lately, Comedians, musicians, you know, all the greats. 00:48:10 Speaker 1: Bridger has been on it. 00:48:12 Speaker 3: Who else Will Farroh, Will Farah? Yeah, well, yeah, girl, Jason Isabel Keenan Thompson, it just goes on. 00:48:20 Speaker 5: And Jenny Lewis, Amy Mann, Amy Schumer, Lisa Lobe Okay, Beck Bennett Tarren, kill him, Kobe Smolders. I mean, what do you want from us? 00:48:33 Speaker 3: Talk about the film? Shallow? How for an hour? 00:48:38 Speaker 4: Pockets? People are lessonested quit where we're ahead. No, it's a very fun podcast, and it's fun. I mean, how many sibling podcasts exist? 00:48:49 Speaker 1: Right? There are a few others. 00:48:52 Speaker 4: Let's not name them. We do not want to promote the competition. 00:48:56 Speaker 1: That's right. 00:48:57 Speaker 4: Go listen to the podcast. If it doesn't cut into your time, listen to this podcast. That's all I have to say. 00:49:02 Speaker 5: That's yeah, that's and we know from my very good friend Kitty that it's possible to listen to both. 00:49:09 Speaker 4: You can listen to I've heard at least two podcasts. That's a possibility. I don't know. I haven't tried it. Okay, YouTube, We're going to play a game called Gift or a Curse. I'm going to name three things you're going to tell me, and you're going to have to come to, you know, a consensus here, because usually this is just one person You're going to tell me if there're a gift or a curse and why, and then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers. Okay, and you can fail big time. Okay, Okay. So the first one here is these are all listeners suggestions. This one is from the initials m M. Interesting they've suggested gift or a curse trying a friend's shampoo while staying over at their place. 00:49:53 Speaker 1: I know what I think, and Jonah, I'm curious what you think. 00:49:57 Speaker 3: Well, I don't really have any hair, so this is a tough one for me, so I'm going to maybe defer to Vanessa on this one. 00:50:03 Speaker 5: I think it's a gift because I think it's so much fun to use someone else's shampoo, and I think I like to clear it with the person, or at least, you know, ask for forgiveness not permission. 00:50:16 Speaker 1: Is that the phrase? So I like to go, FYI. 00:50:18 Speaker 5: I used your shampoo after and see how they react. But I think it's a great way to try out new shampoos. And look, if you're staying there for a week, that's one thing. But if you're just gonna use their shampoo once or twice. 00:50:32 Speaker 1: That's a gift. 00:50:33 Speaker 5: And also the host should say if they don't want to use you to use the shampoo. They need to be quite forward with that and say, you know, you can use the shower, but don't use the shampoo. 00:50:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair, you're right, you're absolutely. I'm reading in that shower, my little shampoo laboratory. You never know what I mean. Usually it's more expensive shampoo than I buy for myself. So, oh, it's a day at the spot. 00:51:00 Speaker 5: Oh it's I feel like I have this sense memory of being at my friend Jess Wayner's house when I was little, and they always had that shampoo that was. 00:51:12 Speaker 1: Called it was called Shampere. 00:51:16 Speaker 5: It was not a vida, it was a vita, and we had an avida store at our Malta but it was called Shampieure, and I remember going, Okay, I get to use Shampere today. 00:51:29 Speaker 4: Champiare is such a good night. 00:51:31 Speaker 3: It's so funny. 00:51:33 Speaker 1: It's so funny that it was taken so seriously. 00:51:36 Speaker 4: Yes, it sounds like at some point that could have been a snoppy thing to say. 00:51:40 Speaker 5: Yes, it was fancy, it was Shampierre was expensing. 00:51:46 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, you're wearing shampieure. No. I love getting in a friend or a you know, I'm staying over their place and putting in their shampoo, and I don't tell them. I like to get away with it. I like to try to get away with it. 00:51:59 Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, Yeah, they notice. 00:52:01 Speaker 4: Then you know it leads to a fight or you know, hurt feelings. And that's fine. You know, that's why you know, when you bring someone into your home, you've got to expect this sort of thing. 00:52:12 Speaker 1: That's right. 00:52:12 Speaker 4: Okay, you got one so far. That's very nice. The next one is from someone named Katherine, and Catherine has suggested gift to a curse Curig coffee makers. 00:52:23 Speaker 3: This is a bit of a controversial one. I think I'm kind of a coffee snap. I have a kind of a home espresso set up. Carrigs are not my favorites, but I do think they are really convenient. I would say they're a gift if that's for the convenience of it. I don't think it's the best coffee, but I'd say it's a gift. Just if you're in a hotel and you want a couple, I'm gonna say it's a gift just for if it is what it is, I don't. 00:52:46 Speaker 4: Know, Vanessa. Do you agree? 00:52:48 Speaker 1: I think I agree? 00:52:49 Speaker 7: I think I agree, especially because I had a curig for a little while, and you can get refillable filters for it and just put any coffee you want into them, and so it's not like you're throwing away the pods all the time. 00:53:05 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:53:06 Speaker 5: I think there's ways to make the cureg to really fit your own needs. And as someone who no longer has a CUG but weirdly has a lot of pods in my kitchen for them, but I do need to get rid of probably expired, I think it is a gift. 00:53:23 Speaker 4: Oh you too, of course. I hate to hear it. I hate to hear it. I hate these machines. Yeah, the coffee tastes like printer ink. It's horrible. Yeah, the coffee is bad. The coffee is bad. I agree with you. I'd rather just drink a glass of water upon waking up. The convenience means nothing to me. Okay, how hard is it to buy a cup of coffee or to make one? These are solving no one's problems. 00:53:48 Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you this, Bridger. You know I live actually in a kind of a rural area, whether it's not a coffee shop, I'm really crazy about. So that's why I have my own setup, and it is it can be a bit elaborate. Like the machine takes twenty thirty minutes just to warm up. Then I got to get the fresh beans. 00:54:04 Speaker 4: I mean, this is this crank operated twenty to thirty minutes. 00:54:07 Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's it's a what's it called. It's called it's not a dual boiler. It's a heat exchanging unit. I got like really deep into it. So the whole thing has to build the heat and it makes incredible coffee. But it's it's a process. 00:54:21 Speaker 5: You know. 00:54:21 Speaker 3: I have it on a timer, so it turns on at a certain time. And so sometimes it's like if I'm running late, yeah, maybe I'll drink the kurg. But but what it taste is good? No, you know, so it's it's it's not good. But but but I don't have a lot of options, so you know, in a pinch, I would use it. Like I said, I mostly use them like a hotels or if I'm a vanessas well, not anmore. 00:54:41 Speaker 4: I guess they do kind of taste like a hotel. I think, yeah, they're kind of the taste of a hotel. 00:54:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, it tastes like, yeah, like the stale water and like they're the taste. Yeah yeah, And I feel like that they only have the decalf ones and it's yeah. 00:54:58 Speaker 1: Well, now that I have a TV in my room, my house is a hotel. Yeah that's true. 00:55:05 Speaker 3: And put it there and then you can enjoy a nice cup of like shake dunkin Donuts coffee while you watch something make a. 00:55:11 Speaker 1: Full hotel out of my hotel. 00:55:15 Speaker 4: Throw towels on the floor, just disgusting. 00:55:18 Speaker 1: No one picks them up. 00:55:21 Speaker 4: Just waiting for somebody to come in. Okay, well you've gotten one out of two so far, decently. I mean, you're I don't know, you're on thin ice number three. This is from someone named Heather Gifter. A curse the little courtesy jog you do when a car stops to let you cross the street. 00:55:41 Speaker 3: Little is a gift, a curse to you or to the person or just in gent or however. 00:55:47 Speaker 4: You have. 00:55:48 Speaker 1: The courtesy? 00:55:49 Speaker 4: What the little courtesy jog? You know, like someone's letting you and you kind of act like you're moving faster. 00:55:56 Speaker 3: Okay, I have an answer for this, and I'm I want to say, I'm disappointed in myself for my last answer because I don't know, and this I'm really going to be true to myself. I think it's a curse. And this is why every time I do it, it feels like performative and it feels like sometimes I'm the kind of person that doesn't want to reclimb my chair on the plane because it'll inconvenience. It feels like I'm being too like I should own it. I'm ass commodating the street. I'm allowed to have my space, and I feel like running. It's sort of like, oh, I'm sorry, I'm in your way. I'm sorry, No, I'm walking across the street. You can wait. And I feel like it actually bums me out the way I feel about myself after I do it, because I do do that. It's kind of stuff all the time. So I'm saying it's a curse because it feels like it's a courtesy. But I feel like it's not prioritizing myself. 00:56:45 Speaker 5: But Jonah, what do you feel like from the driver's perspective, do you still think it's a curse, Because I think it's sort of funny to watch someone do that. 00:56:53 Speaker 3: But I don't think. I don't think it's really a curse or a gift. I mean, how much time are you really saving this person? I mean, you know it's to me, it's it is more performance, more like acknowledging, like oh I see you. Oh I'm making an extra effort not to inconvenience you. And I feel like it's it's too much. It's too much. It's too much. I'm not saying like, go really slow, stare at your phone. You know I'm saying, but you know, if you're walking, you can you can walk across the street. You're allowed. 00:57:19 Speaker 5: I think I'm willing to go with you on this being a curse, but I think Bridgard's going to think. 00:57:24 Speaker 1: Bridge Is going to think it's a gift. 00:57:27 Speaker 4: Well, get a curse. 00:57:30 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm saying curse. 00:57:31 Speaker 1: Let's say curse. 00:57:32 Speaker 3: We're saying curse. 00:57:32 Speaker 5: We're saying curse, like like walking across the street instead of jogging. 00:57:37 Speaker 1: Let's be unapologetic and say curse. 00:57:39 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you. 00:57:41 Speaker 4: You don't get the point it's a gift. How often is the body in that type of motion? You know, you're never moving in that way, like Vanessa said, it's very funny to watch. It's saving no one at any time, and we're all doing it it. Uh maybe, and maybe it does shave off of you know, half a second. It's a I mean, it's a bizarre ritual. 00:58:03 Speaker 3: Okay, pretty sir, But do you like how do you feel after you do the job? Do you feel disappointing in yourself or no? You're just like, this is just. 00:58:10 Speaker 4: Well, now you've planted this seed. I don't know how I'm gonna feel the next time I do it, But until today, I've always felt, you know, it seemed like I put Actually that's what I like about it. It seems like I put an effort in and I simply didn't. I didn't, right, you know, I got to perform, I got to do my little move. They think I'm courteous, but I'm just doing it for myself. Okay, okay, the pleasure of a fake jog. Yeah, absolutely pleasure. 00:58:38 Speaker 3: I see, Okay, yeah, see, I maybe I'm projecting. I'm picturing this, and then I'm picturing all the times in my life where I'm like, I don't want to send back food because I'm scared it'll be too much. 00:58:47 Speaker 6: You know. 00:58:47 Speaker 3: I don't want to impose. And it's like, then I build all this stuff up in my mind and building it and so so on its surface, it's not. But I guess let's think about what's behind it and what it implies and how it affects other parts of our life. 00:58:59 Speaker 4: That's right, Well, decent logic or not, you still lose. You got one out of three? Okay, you know you got a point. 00:59:08 Speaker 3: You got to start it out so strong. 00:59:10 Speaker 1: I know, yes, we did, we sure did. 00:59:12 Speaker 4: I had high hopes for you, but your losers, which is just unfortunate. 00:59:18 Speaker 1: I have one if we had gotten too, you know. 00:59:20 Speaker 4: That's that's a big question. That's been a big question for me over the course of this podcast. What does sixty six percent mean? 00:59:28 Speaker 1: It's still a D. 00:59:29 Speaker 4: It still feels like a bad grade. 00:59:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, not good. I feel like failing. 00:59:34 Speaker 4: Yeah I want maybe I switched this to four so you can get seventy five percent feels like a decent score. 00:59:41 Speaker 5: I also think you could switch it so that people can get like a half point if they know what you would respond. 00:59:46 Speaker 4: Oh, that's not a bad idea. 00:59:48 Speaker 5: You know, right, because I think I could have aced it just based on not judging you in any way, but just knowing from a from a very funny Comedians person. 01:00:01 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you aren't that too, Jonah. 01:00:03 Speaker 3: Sure, no, I know, but we're talking about Bridger. I get it. 01:00:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'm going to take that into consideration. We do need to find a way for people to feel slightly less like losers in this game. I've made so many of my guests just walk away horrible days. They don't recover. Ah, let's move on. It's the final segment of the podcast. This is called I said no emails people right in too, I said no gifts at gmail dot com. My listeners, I've said it before, I'll say it again. Their lives are horrible. They have so many problems they need help with. Will you help me answer a question? 01:00:39 Speaker 1: Sure of course. 01:00:40 Speaker 4: Okay, let's get in here to the dark. Okay, this says deer Bridge are and forsaken guest, which is I don't know how we should feel about that, but whatever. In the beginning of March, my friends and I entered a trivia night fundraiser for a gay charity and came in second place. This entitled each of us to claim any item of merge from their website at our discretion. The first place team was given one hundred dollars gift card to somewhere and our three items could cost more than what does it say? And our three items could cost more than that, so we really won the night. I don't know what the logic of this game is. We don't need this many details about Trivia Night prizes. We all looked over the store and made our picks, but someone parentheses it was me forgot to email the charity's coordinator to select our items. I just remembered it now two and a half months later, and I want to know if it would be impolite to make the request now I have given money to the charity for a few years. Oh God, the bragging, and we did crush everyone except Team Legal Beagles. Hate that name. Those people lost just based on their name. What's the time limit on requesting the free gift you earned from a charity? Thank you, Kevin PS. The charity is Immigration Equality and they do great work, does getting them amat on your hit podcast? Well that's nice to say, it's a hit podcast. Extend my timeline. Just wondering this person's buttering me up in a crazy way and they're bragging about their charity and their trivia. How do you feel about this? I mean, first of all, gay listeners, not sure how I feel about that, assuming Kevin's well, look, I don't know. I'm making the assumptions here. Should Kevin contact the charity? 01:02:28 Speaker 3: I think this is something like this happened to me recently where I won from a local co op grocery store. I won a contest where I got like fifty dollars worth of plants. Oh, but it's kind of far away, and so I haven't gone, and it's been like two years, and I was literally I was going to go there anyway. And then and me and my wife were talking, I was like, should I can I bring this up? Like should I print out the email? And you know, and and I feel like it's probably two years is a long time. 01:02:57 Speaker 4: I feel about it works there then are dead. 01:03:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, so so, but two and a half months that doesn't feel that long compared to what I'm dealing with here, And so I think it's okay. I mean, I think you're not trying to scam the charity. This is something that you know, you you won legitimately. Apparently you give a lot of money charity, which is great. So I would say two and a half months isn't that long. I would say, when we're getting to more into six months a year, then it's it's starting to you know, people have moved on. But I don't think I think the timeline. I think you still got time if you want to do it soon. I don't know, Vanessa, what do you think? 01:03:30 Speaker 5: I I think two and a half months is almost no time. You know, when you've got something free to redeem, I think you just send them an email and say, oh, it's slipped my mind. I think you look like more of a class act that you weren't like, Okay, I want something free. I'm going to go home immediately and redeem it. 01:03:45 Speaker 1: Which is what I would do. 01:03:46 Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's nice to go like, oh, i'd slip my mind. I didn't even know that I was. I didn't even remember that I'm getting this thing. Here's my thing. Sorry, it's so late, and they're going to go, wow, this person's so glassy, had second place, and they went this long to write in. 01:04:03 Speaker 1: So that's what I would say. 01:04:04 Speaker 5: And I would also say, even though it might seem to this person like the first place gift was worth more. 01:04:12 Speaker 1: I just want to clar I just. 01:04:13 Speaker 5: Want to say that if the second place gift is merch in any way for this organization, then in some ways you're paying them back by like promoting their organization every time you wear the merch. So I can see why it would seem like it's at a higher cost to the organization, But in many ways it's you know, they would probably love to give you any of their merch because it's you know. 01:04:40 Speaker 4: Right, right, No, I mean, I think you both make good points. I also feel like Kevin dropped the ball in a huge way. Maybe he just buys these gifts secretly and says he emailed the organization right, takes the responsibility, does one thing right in his life, and buys the things for his friend. He should have been on top of this. When you say you're on top of something, you be on top of it. 01:05:05 Speaker 3: Right, Oh, friends have a responsibility to kind of follow up and be like, hey, did you get a chance to send that email? 01:05:10 Speaker 4: No, they're probably you know, they're probably hurting. 01:05:13 Speaker 5: He was responsible for sending the email for that included all of the gifts they were selecting. 01:05:18 Speaker 4: As far as I can tell. And meanwhile he's writing an email to this podcast. 01:05:22 Speaker 5: You know, yeah, it's time enough for that. He's figured he's remembered to do that. I think he almost owes it more. I think he should feel more more guilt towards his friends than towards this organization. They're like, take the stuff you want it. His friends are going, where the hell is the stuff? 01:05:41 Speaker 4: His friends might be depending on those things, and it's been much. Could have been a you know, a meal, maybe they needed dinner. 01:05:48 Speaker 5: And you know what else I would say is on those friends a little bit though, is I think one of those friends goes, hey. 01:05:54 Speaker 1: Kevin, just let me do it. Yeah, let me send the email. What do you want? 01:06:00 Speaker 5: And if you if you don't tell me within a reasonable amount of time, I'm just gonna order you something and if you don't like it, I'm gonna keep it. It's gonna be something I like too, just in case. Okay, I know I'm drinking out of word water. Yeah. 01:06:11 Speaker 4: I love that. You're you're drinking out of a plastic flass that looks like you found it under the bedrooms. You are in a hotel room. It's called water in it, which is so disturbing to see. 01:06:23 Speaker 3: But almost barely any water like. 01:06:25 Speaker 5: A staying hydrated. It was pretty full when I started this. This is from a manicure I got earlier today. It was in my car and I just got home and I thought, oh, I'll drink this during the podcast. 01:06:37 Speaker 1: So now here we are. 01:06:38 Speaker 4: Was it just full of water? For the listener, she's drinking out of like a small clear coffee cup, plastic coffee cup. But it's water, which is always kind of distressing to see. And if there's no ice, it truly looks like it's been in her bedroom for days. 01:06:56 Speaker 1: Also, this isn't my bedroom. If it was, it would have a TV. 01:07:00 Speaker 4: Ino. Well, you've got to get a TV in that room, your poor guest. 01:07:04 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that. 01:07:05 Speaker 1: Would be cool. 01:07:06 Speaker 4: Oh I mean turn that into a hotel room. Treat your guest with some respect. Okay, well, Kevin, you I think you've gotten your answer. I don't know. His friends should never trust him again, et cetera. But he's been a busy little bee writing into this podcast, and hopefully his life solves itself. I don't have any more time for it. You too, We answered the question perfectly. The podcast is coming to a conclusion, I have my trapper Keeper. Oh, I'm so excited. I can tell what a cheetah is at this point. Yeah, I don't know what else to say. 01:07:43 Speaker 3: What are you going to put in there? You're gonna write some jokes or some like sketch ideas. What do you what are you gonna do. 01:07:48 Speaker 4: With your I'm gonna start handwriting jokes on on sheets of paper and putting them in there. I might fill it with recipes. Maybe this will be that's a really good idea sheek recipe bhinder. 01:08:01 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:08:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, usually they look kind of homie. This has got a very metropolitan look, really does. 01:08:09 Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna look quite quite shake in your home. 01:08:12 Speaker 5: I've got to say it's gonna be a little bit of a little bit of a conversation piece. 01:08:18 Speaker 4: I'll put it on top of the piano. 01:08:20 Speaker 5: Yeah for sure. 01:08:23 Speaker 4: Well, thank you too. I've I have had just a wonderful time with you here, and I'm so thankful, so thankful for this trapper Keeper. 01:08:31 Speaker 1: Oh, well, thank you for having us. 01:08:33 Speaker 5: We're so thankful that we got to we got to be on this podcast with you, and you know, we hope you enjoy the gift and get a lot of use out of it. 01:08:43 Speaker 4: The way we're talking to each other, it feels like we're leading up to a prayer. Yeah, not healthy. 01:08:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, we really appreciate having some on Bridgeram. Yeah. We hope you enjoy the gift. And you know, if you never got a trapper keeper as a kid, now you can. You can really enjoy it. 01:08:58 Speaker 4: This is a healing gifts. Definitely a healing gift. Exactly the things my mother did to me are now I'm healing. Finally. That's good, listener. The podcast is absolutely over. You have to find something else to do. I don't care what it is, but please move on. I love you, goodbye. I said No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Annalise Neilson, and it's beautifully mixed by Leanna Squilatchi. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no Gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting and don't you want to see pictures of the gifts the invit? 01:09:51 Speaker 1: Did you hear? 01:09:54 Speaker 2: Funa man myself perfectly clear? 01:09:58 Speaker 4: But you're I guess home. 01:10:02 Speaker 2: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests, your own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff. 01:10:16 Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me?