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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Mets dream offseason. They've got a

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Speaker 1: the NLCS. They got to get better if they want

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Speaker 1: to get there. This team was not good enough this

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Speaker 1: past season. And with the crazy free agent market and

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Speaker 1: the incredible trade market that's available this offseason, the Mets

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Speaker 1: have a chance to really make some noise. So we're

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Speaker 1: going to run through what would be our dream offseason

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Speaker 1: for the New York Mets going into the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five season. James, for the people at home, get it started.

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Speaker 1: Let us know where we're starting with the payroll, luxury

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Speaker 2: All right, So, right now, as the stands on the

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Speaker 2: second Wednesday recording, November thirteenth, at one forty nine pm,

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Speaker 2: the Mets competitive balanced tax payrolls at one hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventy eight point seven to one million dollars, and this

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Speaker 2: two hundred and forty one million. The next one is

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Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty one million dollars. I'm not even

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Speaker 2: going to talk about what happens at those thresholds because

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of confidence that's are going to

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Speaker 2: that's two hundred and eighty one million dollars, and that

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Speaker 2: So every single dollar the Mets spent over that you

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Speaker 2: last threshold, the Coen tax three hundred and one million

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Speaker 2: dollars up from last year. Where last year that threshold

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Speaker 2: I think it was probably ten million less thing. It's

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Speaker 2: about too ninety one. At that one, you get taxed

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ten percent of that. So that means

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Speaker 2: until the last luxury tax threshold, the Mets have, as

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Speaker 2: we've been saying this whole offseason, by the one hundred

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Speaker 2: we've seen the last couple of years as well. So

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Speaker 2: that's kind of what the Mets had to play with,

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Speaker 2: and that is an unbelievable amount of stuff to play with.

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Speaker 2: So I think we're going to be able to play

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Speaker 2: a lot underneath that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, the Bets definitely have some room to improve

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Speaker 1: this team, which again had a pretty good run last year.

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Speaker 1: You're obviously missing some pieces that you need to pay

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Speaker 1: think if we're talking about a dream offseason, you guys

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Speaker 1: have been listening to episodes in videos. The only place

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Speaker 1: we can start is with Juan Soto. Give him the money,

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Speaker 1: give him the money, whatever it is, pay him. We've

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Speaker 1: but I think in terms of aav Aaron Judge gets

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Speaker 1: at this exact moment is not better than Aaron Judge.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Judge is a better baseball player, but Wansta's twenty

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Speaker 1: six years old, So he's going to get paid more

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Speaker 1: aav and I don't know how much more realistically can

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Speaker 2: I think the absolute max, a full on ceiling for

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any chance of steps above.

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Speaker 1: That happy to pay him more if that means he's

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Speaker 2: No, there's no player that makes more than forty That's

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Speaker 1: You sign me up. Sign me up all day for

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Speaker 1: twenty five. He's one hundred and sixty two game average.

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Speaker 1: That is one of the best players in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: do not care what Juan Soto does in the outfield

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Speaker 1: when he is one of the best hitters in all

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball cares about his defense. He had a

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Speaker 1: valuable yeah negative, one of the most valuable players in

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Speaker 1: all of Major League Baseball. Please stop with the defensive comments,

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Speaker 1: because what matters the most in this game at the

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Speaker 2: Even to give some historical contacts some of those numbers.

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Speaker 2: He was taking private jets everywhere the Mets. I think

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Speaker 2: taking like six meetings with the Red Sox. The Yankees

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Speaker 2: Like Francisco Indoor landed in LA yesterday for what was

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Speaker 2: imagine that shit for a second that Mad Loves to

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Speaker 2: a mess fan five years ago, TMC is following Francisco

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Speaker 2: it feels like him and Scott Bores are planning to

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Speaker 2: get this done very quickly. The meetings have begun again.

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Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, November thirteenth. Meetings have begun with Wan solo. Like,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have multiple teams meet with him in the

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Speaker 2: next three days, in two weeks from now, three weeks

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Speaker 2: from now, we could actually have this be over. That

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they said he will be at the

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Speaker 1: what do you want, Wan Soto? How do we get

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Speaker 2: And we were talking with Matt Eddie in our group

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Speaker 1: And then even looking across town to the Bronx and

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Speaker 1: the World Series. Want so was the dude. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, all he wants to do is win. He

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Speaker 1: that's what I like to about him being quick. He

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Speaker 1: Now we can go get the players to help the

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Speaker 1: other team. So we give Wansota that forty seven million

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Speaker 1: dollars for fifty or for fifteen years, what does that

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Speaker 1: put us that money wise? And then where are we

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Speaker 2: So where that puts us at? Also, I'm gonna add

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Speaker 1: Okay, And where where you spend it? The next are

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Speaker 2: This is our dream offseason right that we're We're doing

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Speaker 1: Yes, and if you've been watching any of our stuff,

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Speaker 1: He's disgusting. I know it's been a very small sample.

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Speaker 1: And the thing that you love about Garrett Croche won young.

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Speaker 2: But even talk a little bit more about Crochet last year,

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Speaker 2: this thing done and really not feel that bad about it.

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Speaker 2: And you guys heard Williams's podcast, He sounded like he

433
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Speaker 2: thought there may have been a little bit of a

434
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Speaker 2: chance you could get traded.

435
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. He was like a little bit.

436
00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,399
Speaker 1: He's like, I know, I'm not gonna play shortstop for

437
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Speaker 1: the Mets.

438
00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like that's where I want to play. So

439
00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,359
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. But it just seems like this

440
00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,840
Speaker 2: is this is a really doable trade. It wouldn't gut

441
00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,000
Speaker 2: the Mets farm system as much as some people think

442
00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,440
Speaker 2: it would because we do have a lot of guys

443
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Speaker 2: that are close to the majors, Like you'll still be

444
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Speaker 2: able to keep I think at least you're trading Jet.

445
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Speaker 2: I think you keep one of at or two of

446
00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,040
Speaker 2: Gilbert Mauricio on Luis on Helicunya, and then you could

447
00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,720
Speaker 2: probably keep again like Clifford. Then you have Baiez. Not

448
00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,240
Speaker 2: I don't think you're trading sprot and I don't think

449
00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,800
Speaker 2: you're trading Clean. I think those are two guys the

450
00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,320
Speaker 2: Mets will not trade unless they maybe swing another deal.

451
00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,680
Speaker 2: But I mean maybe they do trade them. But it

452
00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,159
Speaker 2: seems like that you can get this deal done for

453
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Speaker 2: about three prospects and then you can call that a day,

454
00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,840
Speaker 2: and then you have garat Crochet. And now we're back

455
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Speaker 2: to the dream off season and we're at two hundred

456
00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,119
Speaker 2: and sixty three million dollars thirty eight million left to

457
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Speaker 2: spend on the last threshold. And that's also that's not

458
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Speaker 2: saying that's where the mester are going to stop each

459
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Speaker 2: for sure.

460
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the last time, I think, for the purpose of

461
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Speaker 1: this video, will stop at three to oho one. I

462
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Speaker 1: think we'll surt out three to ozho one three h five.

463
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Speaker 1: That's kind of where we're gonna go. We're not gonna

464
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Speaker 1: go crazy, but like they're gonna spend four hundred million dollars,

465
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Speaker 1: so that's not gonna happen. But I think we can

466
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Speaker 1: go above the threshold a little bit responsibly here. And

467
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Speaker 1: with that money left, we got to attack the bullpen,

468
00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,440
Speaker 1: gotta get some depth on the team, and probably need

469
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Speaker 1: just a couple more arms in the starting rotation. So

470
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Speaker 1: definitely I'm gonna I'm gonna go to you here. Where

471
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Speaker 1: do you want to start on the next guy?

472
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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe just to knock something out of early.

473
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Speaker 2: This team definitely needs, like again, we need someone that

474
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Speaker 2: can play center field in the daily basis. Defense will

475
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Speaker 2: be a little more valuable to this roster. Now you

476
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Speaker 2: have won, so Tho and Pee Alonzo want it. You

477
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Speaker 2: need someone that can run, you need someone that can

478
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Speaker 2: move a little bit. To me, it makes tons of

479
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Speaker 2: sense still to go back to the well and just

480
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,239
Speaker 2: give Harrison Bay. They're eight million dollars to come back

481
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Speaker 2: to town.

482
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Speaker 1: You wouldn't rather trade for Cedric Mullins.

483
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Speaker 2: I think what Cedric Mullins? Again? It comes back to

484
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,639
Speaker 2: this thing with me with the Orioles. What are you

485
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Speaker 2: giving the Oriols that they do not have that they

486
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Speaker 2: actually want?

487
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Speaker 1: But they just pitching?

488
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Speaker 2: What pitcher you're giving them?

489
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Speaker 1: Blade Didwell.

490
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't give Blay Tidwell for wonder Cedric Mullins. That's

491
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Speaker 2: too much.

492
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Speaker 1: How about uh someone else in the minors. I don't know, Like,

493
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna cost anything. I think he's

494
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Speaker 1: gonna be they're gonna be looking to give him away.

495
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonn give them away, Becau. They're

496
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Speaker 2: a team that's trying to push forth to a pennant,

497
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Speaker 2: So you have to give them something that they can

498
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Speaker 2: actually redundant.

499
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Speaker 1: He's redundant, they don't need them, but doesn't matter.

500
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Speaker 2: Don't give way assets for free. I'm not giving We're

501
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 2: gonna give each other free stuff like you just have to.

502
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker 2: You gotta get something back in return. You gotta trade something.

503
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Speaker 1: You give the Orioles too much credit for their farm system,

504
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Speaker 1: thinking they don't want Mets prospects. I just don't.

505
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Speaker 2: I don't think that they're looking for a prospect right now.

506
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 2: I think that I think again, maybe Cedric Mullins does

507
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 2: make sense, but you have to organize at the reteam

508
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Speaker 2: trade where someone's giving the Ools something in the major

509
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Speaker 2: leagues that they could use, and then you give and

510
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Speaker 2: then you baby.

511
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Speaker 1: Take Bret Baty don't have a they kneed lefty.

512
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Speaker 2: Brett Baty would be the ninth worst third basement, they says, wouldn't.

513
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Speaker 2: But I do like the concept of Cedric Mollins. But

514
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Speaker 2: I just don't see it as being any any kind

515
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 2: of realistic. You can't. You can't give me a trade.

516
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Speaker 1: So tell me the trade Tyler McGill for Cedric molls.

517
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Speaker 2: That actually might work. I'm not okay, that actually might

518
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Speaker 2: be the deal. Damn, I gave you.

519
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: I gave you one.

520
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,879
Speaker 2: Maybe you want that the dream of season, But get

521
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Speaker 2: rid of Tyler McGill.

522
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Speaker 1: No, I I just you can't pay. I don't know

523
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 1: Harrison Bader at that point. Just let Drew Gilbert play.

524
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Speaker 1: Fuck it, see what he's got. They don't think he

525
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Speaker 1: can play center field anymore. Let's really come out of

526
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Speaker 1: his his his bag. They doesn't have anyone. I don't know.

527
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Speaker 1: Maybe I was also told, you know, other guys couldn't

528
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 1: do things on these teams, and then they end up

529
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Speaker 1: being a good player. So I don't know. On this team,

530
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Speaker 1: the way we have it is up right. Now's our dream offseason,

531
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Speaker 1: get back to him. My dream will never include Harrison

532
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 1: Baider on the team.

533
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Speaker 2: Never Well, all right, to give me another center fielder

534
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Speaker 2: and then that's actually realistic.

535
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Speaker 1: Give you another one, uh RANDOMI play centerfield, Put Marte

536
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 1: in left field, and you gotwan So too and right field.

537
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: That's it.

538
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 2: We just need to Adam, we need someone to run

539
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 2: down a ball. Like it's just I'm just trying to

540
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 2: get this one out of the wakes. I think it's

541
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Speaker 2: something that David is also absolutely prioritize.

542
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 1: Tyrone Taylor is going to be playing center field too,

543
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,360
Speaker 1: so like, is there a lefty that can play centerfield?

544
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Speaker 1: I don't think getving too righty's That really makes sense

545
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,640
Speaker 1: for the build of this team again, because then you're

546
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: running into the problem of where Harrison Bader is gonna

547
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 1: become useless again. At some point you.

548
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Speaker 2: Want Garret Hampson. Can you play centerfield?

549
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: He's not a lefty. Oh he's alrighty, Yeah, he's alrighty.

550
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 1: There's there is no lefty free Agentville. But I think

551
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 1: you have to go to the trade market and it

552
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: will probably take a Tyrone Taylor type like they got

553
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Speaker 1: last year. I don't know who that is, to be fair, but.

554
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 2: So maybe it is Cedric Mall's. Maybe the only one

555
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: is Cedric Mullins.

556
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Speaker 1: And honestly, what, no, never mind never my Max Kepler

557
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: can't play centerfield.

558
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 2: My bad, No, he definitely cannot play centerfield. Yeah, if

559
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 2: you want a guy who can defend to play centerfield,

560
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 2: what your boy?

561
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 1: Redugo could probably play a little centerfield.

562
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Speaker 2: I don't think. Yeah, Yankees played fucking Aaron Judge there

563
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 2: over him. There's no way.

564
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: We'll see, all right, So whatever, we know that there's

565
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: gonna be another centerfielder taken. Whoever it is eight million

566
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 1: dollars or less, I don't know who the name is.

567
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 1: It can't be Harrison Bader. Think about what you're saying,

568
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,719
Speaker 1: you know, dream offseason, I want Harrison Bader.

569
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 2: That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the video.

570
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 2: I guess you're right, but I'm say we have to

571
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 2: be realistic about this. David Stearns is going together, Pet

572
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Speaker 2: the centerfielder.

573
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 1: It's a dream.

574
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Speaker 2: I want to be a little bit realistic for the

575
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 2: people at home. But I mean, Tyler were gona Actually

576
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 2: Cedric Maulls does make sense. That actually will be the trade.

577
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: There you go, done, Tyler McGill's gone. We got Cedric bones.

578
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: Now we need more pitching, all right? Now we need

579
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: more pitching, all right? Now back to the pitching side.

580
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 1: Let's identify the next picture. You want Starthur a bullpen

581
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: U starter.

582
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Speaker 2: Do you want to spend how much money you want

583
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 2: to spend on him? We have about forty million left,

584
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 2: twelve to fifteen, twelve to fifteen. I think that puts

585
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: us in the range of I said this the other day.

586
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: This puts us in range for if you want to

587
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 2: make Jeff Hoffin a starther. That's a weird thing. I'll

588
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 2: give you that I took. You took my mulleins, I'll

589
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: give you Jeff Hoffman, but agaway. I think we can

590
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 2: also play around this a little more, like would you

591
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,959
Speaker 2: rather spend twelve to fifteen million dollars on? Say? Like,

592
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I probably thought Andrew Heeny. I think I'd

593
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 2: rather give Hoffin a shot than Andrew Heeny In that

594
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: year Montes might get more than twelve. We might be

595
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 2: able to get him with fifteen.

596
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: I probably Mantes. We've wanted Montes forever.

597
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 2: Alex Cobb, you want Cobb, you want you want Trevor Williams,

598
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: Michael Lorenzen. Michael Lorenzen stinks. Okay, I thought I'm off

599
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: Michael Lorens and now yeah, I did some more research

600
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: I got off him.

601
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: Did you give Shane Bieber a shot?

602
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: He probably can't pitch much this year though the Champion

603
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: wind does open.

604
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Speaker 1: You got her at the beginning of the year, he'd

605
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Speaker 1: be ready by by June July, you'd hope.

606
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: Well, do you think you can give Shane Bieber for

607
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 2: this deal? You have to probably be two for forty

608
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: at the minimum.

609
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's probably fair.

610
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So then do we spend twenty million or forty

611
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: million on Bieber?

612
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: Do we spend.

613
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 2: Do we go after Kakuchi and Manaya? Is that the

614
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: year we shoot for?

615
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Speaker 1: I just feel like because of what we spent Manaia,

616
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem as realistic as Kouchi. I think Mana

617
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: is gonna get paid more than Kakuchi.

618
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna pay basically the same. I think

619
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Speaker 2: they both can get three year deals around twenty million,

620
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 2: part maybe four for twenty That's kind of where I'm at.

621
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 1: If that's the case, give me Sean Manaya just for

622
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 1: the vibes.

623
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Speaker 2: All right, So now you're Shaumana back for the vibes.

624
00:23:58,960 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: Let's give him.

625
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: Let's give him four years seventy six million, nineteen million

626
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: a year. Give Mady, give me the twenty million year

627
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,959
Speaker 2: for shrum and I. So that puts us where at

628
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: uh So, now we've been we were two seventy with

629
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Speaker 2: with name center field to hear. Oh no, we got

630
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 2: moll the we get moll in salad. But we're basically

631
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: at it's almost three hundred now, yeah, and now ninety ninety.

632
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: And now we have fun with the relievers. Let's get

633
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,239
Speaker 1: crazy with some relievers. And this is where your your

634
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: forte is.

635
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, alright, So two hundred ninety million dollars right now

636
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 2: we have we can. We gotta get some three million

637
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 2: dollar relievers. You want three three million dollar relievers.

638
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: I just want you to just name arms that you like.

639
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: Daniel Colum bay ooh, Jummy Garcia, Caleb Ferguson, Jose La Clerk,

640
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: Jose Leclerk, Brooks Raley, bring him back, get the band

641
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: back together.

642
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: I think Brooks really should come back. I'd actually really

643
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Speaker 1: like him back. He was great.

644
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: Andrew Kittridge, Lucas Sims for a million dollars, Johnson the

645
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: whys Ago for a million, two million dollars. Caleb thielbar

646
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: Is an extra lefty for three million dollars. You just

647
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: put all those guys I just said together. You get

648
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Speaker 2: four of them and that puts us to what three

649
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Speaker 2: hundred five million?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, slim.

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Speaker 2: Where do we have the Mets roster right now? The

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Speaker 2: dream roster. Let's just let's just let's just go through

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Speaker 2: it right now. Sure to bring the people back in Catchers.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, we're giving two million dollars Jose Glacias for

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Speaker 2: the vibes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, of course he's back. Yeah, without a doubt that

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Speaker 1: OMG Catchers are Francisco Alverrez, Luis Torentz first base, Pete

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Speaker 1: Alonzo yes, second base, Jeff McNeil, Jose Gleasias.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and we're still keeping one of probably Luis and

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Speaker 2: Helicuno or Ronnie Mariso.

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Speaker 1: Yes for whichever one. Not sure but whatever doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Whoever West don't want, sure stop Francisco Lindor third base,

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Speaker 1: Mark Viento's outfield, Brandon Neimo, Juan Soto, Starling, Marte Tyrone

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Speaker 1: Taylor and whoever the fifth one is going to be,

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Speaker 1: and Marxis, Cedric Mullins, I think Arison Bay, Cedric Mullins,

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Speaker 1: Harrison Bator, whatever it's going to be, d H. I

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Speaker 1: guess we just oh, we forgot about DH. Just yes,

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Speaker 1: so who would be? I guess he could DH two.

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Speaker 2: Rotating D.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it would be a rotating DH. Truthfully,

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Speaker 1: if we get Wan Soto, just because there are so

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Speaker 1: many guys on this team that you could put in

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Speaker 1: the DH spot and give them a day off, give

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Speaker 1: him a bump. Whatever it's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Bring J. D. Davis back for the Dash, oh Jesus no. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: bring Hori Palaco and to prove it one year for

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Speaker 2: ten for the DH second base.

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Speaker 1: No, he can't. You can't bring him as a DH guy,

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Speaker 1: absolutely not. Reach is the only thing. But to be

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Speaker 1: fair when you get wan so to n Pede Alonzo,

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Speaker 1: and you can't really worry about who your DH is

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Speaker 1: gonna be. That's just figure it out as you go.

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Speaker 1: So that's our hitters, and you plug and play with.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care who the other hitters are. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: it's not important to be pitching. Now.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that Cedric Mullins projected salary on UH

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Speaker 2: for arbitrations eight and a half.

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Speaker 1: Now there it is Harrison Bader. Yeah, all right, so

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Speaker 1: pitching we have Garrett Crochet, Code I Sanga, David Peterson.

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Speaker 1: Shall we sever even though Sean and Iyah that's our five.

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Speaker 2: That's a good five.

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Speaker 1: That's a great five.

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Speaker 2: That's really good five. Questions though, who's the six?

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Speaker 1: The six is prob? I mean, maybe it's Brandon Sprote,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's Blade tid Well, maybe it's some of those

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Speaker 1: Triple A guys, or maybe it's just like some random

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Speaker 1: them dude that you sign that is just kind of

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Speaker 1: like it's it's March and the and uh, who is

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Speaker 1: someone who hasn't signed. It's March and Chris Flexen's available.

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Speaker 1: It's a terrible name to choose. That was the first

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Speaker 1: one I saw.

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Speaker 2: Why would you do it? Spencer Turnbull?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's March and Spencer Turnbull is available.

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Speaker 2: It's March and Matthew Boyd.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Matthew Boyd, Alex Cobb, Alex Cobb, Mike Soroka. I

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Speaker 1: don't know those guys are available.

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Speaker 2: Jose Kintana is gonna be a reliever.

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Was he really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, He's definitely gonna be a reliever. I mean that,

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Speaker 2: But that's kind of them where we'd be. So that

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Speaker 2: that does leave us at three hundred and ten million dollars,

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Speaker 2: still needing probably three more players than this.

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Speaker 1: Roster, probably, But that's where I trust David Searns to

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Speaker 1: just be better than we are at this and also

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Speaker 1: get fair. We did just say we're giving like a

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Speaker 1: lot of extra money to guys, maybe the deals would

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Speaker 1: be cheaper.

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Speaker 2: Also, the last two years the mess salaries were Perils

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Speaker 2: were three hundred and seventy five million, three hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty six million. Yeah, so maybe us being at three

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Speaker 2: hundred and ten is a little concidered the last time

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Speaker 2: the Mets made the playoffs, Steve Comen spent push a

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Speaker 2: salary three hundred and seventy five million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but also like I feel like this team is

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Speaker 1: better and we spent less money. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a big part here, especially if you

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Speaker 2: add in want so tho and again, like maybe two

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Speaker 2: million of a AAV come up to sow the deal,

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Speaker 2: two million of AAV come up the Beat deal, A

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Speaker 2: million comes off the Manaia deal. Right there, We just

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Speaker 2: bought another reliever at those five million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yes, or you get rid of one reliever and you

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Speaker 1: get another starter. And that's kind of how it rolls.

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Speaker 1: Like I I think there's there's ways. Obviously trading McGill

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Speaker 1: for Mullens that's probably not gonna happen. But stream off season,

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Speaker 1: dream off season, we can dream. The Boys can dream.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Lyles maybe as our sixth Starterles, that guy always exists.

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Speaker 2: Can Julio Tehran Mets legend guy won a game.

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Speaker 1: For US this year. Never forget Julio Tehran. But that

741
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Speaker 1: feels like a pretty good off season to be bullpen

742
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Speaker 1: beat being Edwin Diaz and then everybody else. Oh, Stani's

743
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Speaker 1: gotta come back, of course.

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Speaker 2: Standing at the disco and I prise himself out like

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Speaker 2: if you can get him for like seven mil. Like yeah, sure,

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Speaker 2: ralely bring him back, I said, Diaz. Garrett Stanik Budo

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Speaker 2: Lowiseiga dead. Neil Daniel nuniez, Oh my god, Daniel nunia

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Speaker 2: is going to be correct, shit ed.

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Speaker 1: Neil Nunie is back, like the Mets, like they need relievers,

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Speaker 1: but I think that's more so to just like keep

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Speaker 1: the Ormies at bay, like they they've actually got some

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Speaker 1: pretty good arms in that bullpen right now without signing anybody,

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Speaker 1: I say, they have very cleanly half a good bullpen, yes,

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Speaker 1: and then you plug it and you figure it out.

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Speaker 1: And just like David Sterns said last year, our bullpen

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year won't look like it

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Speaker 1: will at the end of the year. And that's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna be the case again.

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Speaker 2: The bullpen it will only look like the one in June.

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Speaker 2: And that's gonna happen again. I mean, which is the

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Speaker 2: only major league contract we give now So far as

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Speaker 2: Dylan Kovee, who, like I know, no one could have

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Speaker 2: known who he was before that contry, He's our sixth guy.

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Speaker 2: He might be the six guy. He actually could be

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Speaker 2: the sixth star, at least the seven star. That's another

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Speaker 2: good point. I mean, just again, this is the Dream offseason.

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Speaker 2: We're making some fun content here. We've been doing a

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Speaker 2: lot of it. David Sterns is gonna do some shit

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Speaker 2: that will never even expect and we're gonna look up

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Speaker 2: and may be like, fuck, yes we have David Stearns.

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Speaker 1: But really hope he checks checks the boxes on Wan Soto, Alonzo,

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Speaker 1: Garrett Crochet. I mean, that's the dream.

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Speaker 2: Those are the three big ones.

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Speaker 1: That's the trio.

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Speaker 2: That is the Dream offseason right there. Whatever happens after that,

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Speaker 2: it's filling in the rest. We probably will do an

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Speaker 2: episode next week. Mark's going to Ireland later. So so

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Speaker 2: these these three episodes Bang Bang Bang are probably not

779
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Speaker 2: gonna have known them with you guys till next Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: But those are three. The one might probably start getting

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Speaker 2: nitty gritty. We just wanted to get this out there

782
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Speaker 2: because the real off season is going to start when

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Speaker 2: these qualifying offers get accepted or declined this weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: two more things before we go, right YEP. Number one,

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Speaker 2: this episode is dedicated to Hojjie rip Hajji. Keith Nanders

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Speaker 2: announced on Twitter that he had to put down his

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Speaker 2: beloved cat Hadji. After his belove a cat twenty two

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Speaker 2: years Hojgi so long this week, which is yeah, that

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Speaker 2: that's incredibly long time to have a cat that's probably

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Speaker 2: older than a lot of people listening to this podcast

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Speaker 2: s are. But this this episode is dedicated to Hadgi.

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Speaker 2: Shout out Hajji, and another big one at long last,

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Speaker 2: the return to Frankie Peppers.

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Speaker 1: Frankie. Yes, oh my gosh, off season, Frankie, we.

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Speaker 2: Have off We have a voice metag from Frankie off

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Speaker 2: season Frankie minute sixteen, lot of Frankie. Here, you're ready

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Speaker 2: to hit it.

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Speaker 1: Let's hit it.

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Speaker 2: Here comes Franky.

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Speaker 3: Gentlemen, you doing this is Frankie Peppers. It's it's been

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Speaker 3: a moment since I called in, since listen to an

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00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: instagram of mind, and I just, you know, like everybody else,

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00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: sort of needed a little bit of time after the

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Speaker 3: off season.

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Speaker 1: Every car out here, by anything, he is trying to.

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Speaker 3: Interrupt me sending you this message. So I'm just gonna

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Speaker 3: keep going. I just want you boys to be aware

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Speaker 3: and make some more lucky Bowl and years. This past Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Boys got us from the playoffs, and.

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Speaker 3: Now I think there's Lucky Bowl and Yea's is gonna

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Speaker 3: help these New York mentioned David Stearns at INC one

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00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: so to a fourteen years, fifty two million dollars a

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Speaker 3: year contract with the player option at the five.

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Speaker 1: And ten years in case he wants to reevaluate things.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I hope you boys are doing well.

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Speaker 3: I hope the off season is treating you well. I

817
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Speaker 3: hope all the men's do listen isn't doing well to it.

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Speaker 3: Miss you all, and it's the off season. Time for

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Speaker 3: David Stearns to work his magic. I'll talk to you boys.

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Speaker 3: Should't the game.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a longer than a minute, no longer

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Speaker 4: than a minute. Citing news, I'm not gonna continue here.

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Speaker 4: I said what I wanted to say. Forward, take your voice.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe there was more good.

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Speaker 2: It's good news moving forward forward, Frankie, thank you for

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Speaker 2: Frankie Peppers. So I think weel like it picked up

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Speaker 2: a lot of new listeners for his new listeners. That's

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Speaker 2: Frankie Peppers. He's the He's the patriarch of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the de facto call in whenever he wants

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Speaker 1: and we listen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a listener. Well, maybe we'll do voice my

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Speaker 2: episodes soon. But also again, we're not gonna have an

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Speaker 2: episode for the next couple of days, but we pill

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Speaker 2: out like eight episodes in the last week and a half.

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Speaker 2: So if you guys haven't go back and listened to five,

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Speaker 2: Mets won't be back next season. What the Mets will

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Speaker 2: do if it don't sign one. So though five trade

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Speaker 2: targets for the Mets, our interview with Jet Williams h

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Speaker 2: william Domas versus p Alanzo episode talking about rookie Sasaki,

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Speaker 2: and then we predicted where every single free agent will

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Speaker 2: sign the other day too, So a lot of content

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Speaker 2: for you guys. Get back, make sure you catch all

843
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: of them next couple of days before we get back here.

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Speaker 2: But Offsea's about to get going.

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Speaker 1: We're really fucking excited. Yep. Make sure you subscribe to

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Speaker 1: us on YouTube Metstup podcast YouTube channel if you want

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Speaker 1: to see the video version of this. And if you're

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Speaker 1: listening to a Apple podcast Spotify, Google drops the rating,

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Speaker 1: drops a review, and make sure you hit that download

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Speaker 1: button so you get all the episodes as soon as

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Speaker 1: they drop. We do appreciate you, guys. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for the making supporting the offseason. We got more

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Speaker 1: coming at you. Follow James on Twitter at James unders Course.

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Speaker 1: Giana No, I'm draftck Mark with a C. We will

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Speaker 1: catch you all next week for another episode, unless the

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Speaker 1: Mets do something crazy this weekend. I'm bringing this stuff

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Speaker 1: to Ireland so I'm always prepared.

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Speaker 2: Peace out, peace, See you guys. Next title, Let's Go Mets.