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Speaker 2: All right, shill Li, I'm on a Tuesday edition of

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily. I am merely Bo.

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Speaker 3: That's a great seat.

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Speaker 4: You're welcome for another winning week in the scores and

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Speaker 4: just giving you own a job.

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Speaker 2: You mony me out of us US and we got

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Speaker 2: back a little. You're gonna you're gonna under the real

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Speaker 2: eater right now, just about down weeks are neutralists? Sure,

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Speaker 2: just a bit. You're your solid is like four or

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Speaker 2: five games over ten and six every week, So you're

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Speaker 2: in that four and five and that's how you stack

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Speaker 2: those big ones. Look at it?

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Speaker 3: Cutting a real pain. We cow.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I'm running a business over there. Look at him.

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Speaker 2: We got that jacket, but yeah no, no, that was wow.

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Speaker 2: That's I got. He's got running a business. I walked

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Speaker 4: Who he's meeting with, who's a great is illuminary in

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Speaker 4: his own right of the business world.

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Speaker 2: So he's yeah, yeah, that was a lot of big,

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Speaker 2: a lot of them there. Yeah, so nice job, nice job.

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Speaker 2: On the Monday night.

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Speaker 4: It was, by the way, for a good portion of

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Speaker 4: that game I had. That's it was second screened only

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Speaker 4: for me. We're enjoying Landman. Season two has been a

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Speaker 4: real hoot. I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: I have. I've only seen the opening episode. I enjoy

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Speaker 2: it thoroughly. But we're in this stretch of the well

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Speaker 2: and there's been and there's been games. All these games canceled,

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Speaker 2: so they're being made up like NBC's got this week

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Speaker 2: normally not and then all that. So I just don't

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Speaker 2: I don't have the time. But anytime I think about,

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Speaker 2: he become Dawson by the way, from Pacy from Dawson's Creek.

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Speaker 2: What happened You got the Christmas card yesterday? Yeah? It

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Speaker 2: blew my mind. He popped. I got big, got big.

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Speaker 4: He looks so much older than he did six months ago.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's fair. Yeah, I think that's fair.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying anything. The last time you saw him in person,

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Speaker 2: I think he's probably grown, probably grown like fire. He's

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Speaker 2: think there is. He got his beverage and then went there.

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Speaker 2: Well another illuminatory went so like there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: walking everywhere on an otherwise Tuesday. But yeah, what a great,

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Speaker 2: beautiful card they did, nice, awesome. Yeah. So he yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's had a big, big gross boots. Boots is coming along. Well,

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Speaker 2: he got his little history hank yesterday, little thing which

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Speaker 2: was from what I could tell, kind of a they

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Speaker 2: took Willie Wonka meets Night at the Museum is kind

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Speaker 2: It seems like a good operation. Yeah, yeah, he was good.

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Speaker 2: He was not pleased with the top hat that he

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Speaker 2: He wasn't really thrilled about that. But other than that,

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Speaker 2: it was I'm sure it was pretty strong. I want

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Speaker 2: to I'm gonna do a little hot take for you.

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Speaker 2: Give it to me. My my favorite Christmas movie to

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Speaker 2: been Love. Actually that's our favorite one that her and

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Speaker 4: So that's like, that's always usually the first one we

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Speaker 2: It's not like Diehard though, like there's way there's a

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Speaker 2: But it's not like there's no Sanna there. Uh there is, well,

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Speaker 2: there is Santa, but not like not like in this

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Speaker 2: that this particular holiday season I am really gravitating to

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Speaker 2: and every time I pop in, there's something else that's great,

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Speaker 2: because it's great. It really is great, and it's great.

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Speaker 2: It's you know, em and I watched it last weekend

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Speaker 2: don't need to watch all of it, like we've seen

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Speaker 2: It's always worth popping. It's really great. First of all,

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Speaker 2: the depth of the cast is incredible, it really is.

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Speaker 2: And there's these set pieces. Yeah, you Christmas, Christmases, and

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Speaker 2: so wherever you jump in, you're like, oh, then this

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Speaker 2: one's coming next. Yeah. Yeah, just think about who's at

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Speaker 2: Duvall's house. Just you have ball.

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Speaker 4: Favreau, you got Kenny's lady lun down, and then you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's really crushing it.

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Speaker 4: She's great cheese whizz and then you go and now

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Speaker 4: you got at at at her mom's house. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: Well, you got Dwight Yoakam's involved there, dwighte Yoakum throwing

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Speaker 2: just incredible, Master Phil pastor Phil bringing. All he's got

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Speaker 4: Then you get their history, which is incredible, the Bounce house.

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Speaker 2: All of it. No, it all wins. That's really great.

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Speaker 2: It's and then his mom, Yeah, it's all well. And

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Speaker 2: then and then the thing with his mom is you

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Speaker 4: I forget who's and his dad uh?

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Speaker 2: And then uh John Voight is her dad? Yeah, yeah, No,

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Speaker 2: it's all great, and it's it's for the longest time

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Speaker 2: But I think four Christmas is past. It is the

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Speaker 2: But in terms of for her and I enjoyment that

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Speaker 4: I have him broken up into just a couple of genres.

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Speaker 4: So like my the Big five to me, or actually

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Speaker 4: it's Big six because this one's actually really good too.

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Speaker 2: You have six categories or six and like, just like

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Speaker 2: give me your categories, like real Christmas, like the Christmas movies,

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Speaker 2: these are Christmas movies. Well, what do you call vacation

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Speaker 2: Christmas movie? Okay, as a full on Christmas movie? Okay,

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Speaker 2: I love it. That's like that's my number one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's the best one. I mean, that's the best one.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, if Clark Griswold and Buddy the Alf for

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Speaker 2: think that you would ever have so much. No, you're

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Speaker 2: not this rage filled as Clark gets no what he

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Speaker 2: he was, and there he was, he was bending it

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Speaker 2: whatever was going up. But he's the last great family

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Speaker 2: all he wanted Chris vacation elf. Okay, so I think

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Speaker 2: of that as like a kid's one that we want.

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Speaker 2: That's like a kid one. I am vacation. The only

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Speaker 2: the age. There's a couple of spots, but other than that,

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Speaker 2: it's got all of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Christmas story, which I know you re late to

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Speaker 4: the party, was l Thus the original of the Santa

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, yeah, that one's pretty good. That

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Speaker 2: makes you feel like you're that's not when your kids.

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Speaker 2: It's not one. It's not in the rotation. No, it's

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Speaker 2: definitely not. If you watch it long time ago, long

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Speaker 2: time a club, it's got great things for the kids,

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Speaker 2: and it's also got some of that his wit in there.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's he is separated from his wife, who is

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Speaker 4: a psychiatrist. All right, and then the little kid Charlie's great,

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Speaker 2: So I know, I know we've seen I know we've

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Speaker 2: seen Fred Klaus a lot clause is fine with Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, not even not even in the same there's

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Speaker 2: real magic. I think I've seen it a couple of times.

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Speaker 4: And then I would say that of the two new ones,

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Speaker 4: five ten years Christmas Chronicles is excellent. And then Klaus,

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Speaker 4: have you seen that one? It's the cartoon. Oh, dude,

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Speaker 4: that one will that one will get your emotions going, Oh,

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Speaker 4: look at this, it's incredible one. Yeah, it's like it's

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Speaker 4: basically Santa's origin story.

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Speaker 2: Oh look at that. It's awesome. Okay, really good, highly recommend.

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Speaker 2: Oh I like that. I like a Chris ninety seven

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Speaker 4: Oh it's crisp, and there's not a lot of great.

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Speaker 4: If you look at the cast, the voice actors are,

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Speaker 2: Some real, real luminary there. Yeah, Joan, Yeah, it is

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Speaker 2: the main guy. Schwartz is it's short. J Simmons, JK. Simmons, Rashida, Joe,

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Speaker 2: Norman McDonald, Normy Mack. Yeah, okay, real solid. Oh we

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Speaker 2: haven't we have no point of reference on that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one. It'll get kids, and then

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Speaker 4: you got then you have to me kind of like

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Speaker 4: the the rom coms that I really like, which would

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Speaker 4: be love actually for Christmases in the holiday holidays.

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Speaker 2: Pretty decent office Christmas Party is fun.

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Speaker 4: You play that's in that office Christmas Party and The

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Speaker 4: Night Before are in my just like this is fun Bedlam.

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Speaker 2: These are very fun Christmas movies. Have you ever seen

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Speaker 2: The Night Before? I don't know, I'm thinking I have.

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Speaker 4: So The Night Before you got Rogan. You've got the

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Speaker 4: guy who has gone on to become Captain America. Anthony Mackie,

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Speaker 4: I think is his name?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yep right, Anthony Mackie and Joe Gordon Levitt.

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Speaker 4: You got Gordon Levitt, and it's like the three of

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Speaker 4: them trying to like they'd always hung out the night

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Speaker 4: before Christmas and they trying to recapture it and go

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Speaker 4: to this crazy party, the Nutcracker Ball or something like that,

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Speaker 4: and chaos and comedy ensue.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a solid one. It's a solid one. That's

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Speaker 2: Screwge is still. Yeah, that one's great and bad. Santa

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Speaker 4: It's Billy Bob, Yeah, Billy Bob by the way love

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Speaker 4: It's fine, but with like the hair dye and the hats,

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Speaker 4: He knows who he is and he's like there's some

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Speaker 2: What are you doing? Billy Bob? How about think that

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Speaker 2: Very much eighty. He's seventy. It does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a fat redhead dude.

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Speaker 2: That's Billy Bob Thornton. Wow. What Yeah, that's incredible. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: It looks like it's him. It looks like a young

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Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, I use that line all the time.

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Speaker 2: It's like I'm sitting here playing cards with my brother's kids. Great,

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Speaker 2: I got notes of movies that we're gonna see Monday

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Speaker 2: night football last night. The uh, this Pittsburgh team's gonna

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Speaker 2: be candidly admitted, I'm dead wrong. I thought Baltimore would

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Speaker 2: And when you look at Baltimore's schedule going forward, these

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Speaker 2: don't know that Baltimore can get there. Pittsburgh's got a

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh, Uh, New England, Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh, New England, Green Bay, Pittsburgh Home, New.

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Speaker 2: And then the Steelers have the Lions US Ravens and

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Speaker 3: Can screw it up, it would be the pukers Rogers.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he takes the blue pill instead of the red pill.

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Speaker 2: I swear they're still they're still going to end up.

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Speaker 2: I mean they're not going to losing. I mean these

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Speaker 2: If the Ravens beat the Steelers, Okay, that.

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Speaker 3: Is totally setting up for week eighteen, Sunday night winning

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Speaker 4: So I don't let's just say that if they're down

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know that they can win the division anyway.

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Speaker 2: What's the tie break? They will have the worse is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they will have, so they would be four and

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Speaker 2: Would be four and two, does then had to had

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Speaker 2: Is it conference record? If it's conference record, the Steelers

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Speaker 2: feels to me like that wild. Yeah, we need to

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Speaker 2: both eleven and three. San Francisco quietly sneaking around ten

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Speaker 2: and four with three to go. I mean these division races.

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Speaker 2: Packers are nine to four and one. Detroit's probably out

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Speaker 3: One loss drops you five or six spots.

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Speaker 2: That having in Chicago, right, Yeah, they were the one

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Speaker 2: beat us Now that the two? Yeah, real quick?

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Speaker 4: Here does the visional tiebreakers so head to head would

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Speaker 4: the same. Now, if the Steelers lost to US, if

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Speaker 2: So if Pittsburgh beat Detroit this weekend but lost to US,

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Speaker 4: Baltimore and lost to Baltimore, they would go yeah, because

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Speaker 4: that would give them three division losses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Baltimore would have two.

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Speaker 4: Then it says the next tiebreaker is actually common games,

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Speaker 2: For Pittsburgh, yeah yeah, must must win, Yeah, be less

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Speaker 2: must win. If they beat Detroit this weekend, that give them,

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Speaker 2: or else Buffalo will catch them. Yep, So New England

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Speaker 4: As long as the Patriots win two of them, and

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Speaker 2: The Dolphins, they should be okay.

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Speaker 4: There, they will be okay because they would put them

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Speaker 2: No, they're not gonna lose either of those teams. So

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Speaker 2: then so they're gonna win the division. They'll be the

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Speaker 2: The Steelers played.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to figure out this common opponent thing

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Speaker 5: Ravens lost to Detroit and beat Miami. The Steelers lost

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Speaker 2: So that's who. That's who.

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Speaker 5: The Ravens have left is Green Bay and New England.

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Speaker 5: The Steelers lost to the Bears. So assuming the Steelers

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Speaker 5: It would come down to common opponents. So if the

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Speaker 2: It was a little Pepe Sylvia, but I followed you.

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Speaker 2: That was a great job at you, Gema. Good job, man,

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Speaker 2: we were missing around here. The Browns have re signed

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Speaker 2: wide receiver Jamari Thrash and waved guard Garrett Dellinger as

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Speaker 2: far as the active roster. In college football news, pretty

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Speaker 2: wild week in college football last couple of days. Arch

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Speaker 2: Manning going to return to Texas and not go to

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Speaker 2: the NFL Draft. That's a wise decision. He's got a lot.

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Speaker 2: He got better as the season went along. He's really

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Speaker 3: Six or seven games he only threw two picks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he got better.

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Speaker 3: He's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: He got better. He was pretty inaccurate at times in

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Speaker 2: You guys have heard of the Elite eleven camp in California, right, yep.

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Speaker 2: In the twenty twenty three Elite at eleven Camp, there

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Speaker 2: Pastrick Maholmes kid. That's the Patrick Mahomes kid, by the way,

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Speaker 2: ing to Mike and he had he basically mimicked everything

431
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Speaker 2: Michael did always. That's the same thing with Mahomes. He's

432
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 2: doing the same thing with this kid. So he's back

433
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Speaker 2: in the portal and then DJ Legway. The reason I

434
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Speaker 2: bring all of this up is, and this dovetails into

435
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Speaker 2: the Arch Banning conversation, the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft

436
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: is going to be loaded, bonkers, loaded bonkers. There could

437
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Speaker 2: that Maiava kid could be in it at USC. Obviously

438
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: Sam will be in it. These kids. I'm just mentioning now.

439
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 2: Leonora Seller's going back for another season at South Carolina.

440
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: He's really raw. That's a really smart thing for him

441
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Speaker 2: to do, is to go back. He was never anybody

442
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Speaker 2: who watched him play football knew that he couldn't play

443
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Speaker 2: in the NFL next season. It would be a he

444
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 2: just isn't. He's not ready for that yet. He's a

445
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Speaker 2: really raw prospect. But another year of seasoning will help

446
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Speaker 2: him certainly. But the that and then on top of that,

447
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 2: you're going to have the receiver class. It's gonna have

448
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith and Ryan Williams. Although you had a bad

449
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 2: year this year at Alabama, but that class of receivers

450
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: is unbelievable. Yep. That twenty twenty seven draft is a monster,

451
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Speaker 2: monster and all these kids are going to be in it.

452
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Speaker 2: The quarterback class is going to be. I mean you

453
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Speaker 2: could have five six first rounders. Yeah in it. Those

454
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Speaker 2: kids are not even really talking about too. There's kids

455
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Speaker 2: that there's kids you can't even like, nobody saw cam

456
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: Ward coming, So there's gonna be some of those guys

457
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,959
Speaker 2: that developed that you didn't see coming. But yeah, it's nuts.

458
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be nuts.

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Speaker 3: But if you're a school, why do you want to

460
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Speaker 3: take a chance on the kid coming up from Nebraska

461
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Speaker 3: for your fourth college? I mean who literally just is

462
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 3: clearly in it for the money.

463
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Speaker 2: And I gets weird too because his dad played for

464
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Speaker 2: the Lions. I don't know why his whole path is weird.

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Speaker 2: His dad was dominic La. Yeah, he played for Stafford,

466
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 2: played with Stafford with the Lions when he was there.

467
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: They moved him from he was an Arizona kid and

468
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: then they moved just like South Georgia so he could

469
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 2: play for was it Carrollton or Buford one of those

470
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: Georgia powerhouses because he had committed to Georgia and so

471
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: like he went there, but then he flipped and they

472
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Speaker 2: went to Nebraska or signing day he was committed, initially

473
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Speaker 2: committed to Ohio State and then he went to Then

474
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Speaker 2: he was committed to Georgia, moved his family to Georgia,

475
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Speaker 2: was recruiting kids to play with him at Georgia, and

476
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Speaker 2: then on National Signing Day, right before National Signing Day,

477
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: he flipped back to Nebraska to they hired Matt Ruhle,

478
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: and he went to Nebraska and he's kind of a

479
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: statue back there, like they want a more mobile quarterback.

480
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 2: He takes a ton of sacks, got sacked nine times

481
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Speaker 2: by Minnesota. He's got good arm and all of those things.

482
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Speaker 2: But it's just there's an instant gratification with these kids now,

483
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 2: and it's funny. In his post, he said something along

484
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Speaker 2: the lines of like I need to go somewhere where

485
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: I'm developed. And it's like, dude, you could have gone

486
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: to either your first two choices and you would have

487
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Speaker 2: been You could have gone to Georgia, Ohio State and

488
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: you would have been developed. I mean, that's something like

489
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Speaker 2: saying did when Saban left Alabama. Saban said, where's the

490
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 2: best place for me to be developed into an NFL quarterback?

491
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Speaker 2: And that's how he ended up in Columbus. But it's hard, man,

492
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: because there's all this money that's being thrown at him

493
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: and it's tricky, but it's it's going to be a

494
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: wild couple weeks on that side of things, and the

495
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Speaker 2: twenty seven NFL Draft from an offensive skill position standpoint

496
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Speaker 2: is going to be nuts off the charts. Yep, yep, yes,

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Speaker 2: it is very much so. All right, Coming up next,

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Speaker 2: we'll go one thought around every game in Week fifteen

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Speaker 2: in Week fifteen of the twenty and twenty five NFL season.

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Speaker 2: Hello give hi, gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Hey buddy, Week fifteen, the early games get right down

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Speaker 3: to it. The Ratbirds eliminate the Bengals of Northern Kentucky

514
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: twenty four to nothing. The final score Baltimore improves to

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00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 3: seven and seven and they remain one game back of

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Speaker 3: the Pukers. Bo We'll start off with you here.

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Speaker 2: I'll take the Cincinnati side of it. It's probably if

518
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: there is a short list of kind of the microcosm

519
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: of that operation and ownership and all of it, it

520
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: was probably Sunday. It was probably Sunday. It was. It

521
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: was like the exclamation point on the failure to take

522
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 2: advantage of Joe Burrow's first window and the talent that

523
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: was on that team at the time when they got

524
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl those couple of years ago. The

525
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 2: fact that they didn't clean the stadium out and they

526
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: got snow drifts in there, which is just abhorrent to

527
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: do to fans. It's ridiculous. And then you know, Joe

528
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: really struggled. He didn't play well, and his postgame press conference,

529
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 2: he did it in the press, and then he did

530
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: it in a private team meeting as well. Just I

531
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: was bad. I was all of these things.

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Speaker 6: It just.

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Speaker 2: It's a real low point for them, it really and

534
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 2: I know that Bengals fans are really fed up with

535
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: all of it, and they're all aware of it, and

536
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 2: you know, you can look down there and go, God,

537
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: but it was probably great to get to a Super

538
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: Bowl and have Burrow and Chase and Higgins and all

539
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: of that. But they're going, w how did we not

540
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: win one? How do we not get more at bats?

541
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: And some of its injury lucks whatever. But now it

542
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: feels like they're going to pivot in another direction, whether

543
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: it's coaching, and probably it'll be a bunch of things.

544
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: But the real issue down there is will they ever

545
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: take on private equity to get an influx of cash

546
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Speaker 2: so that they can be more competitive right now? In

547
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: the answer that's probably gonna be no, I don't think

548
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Speaker 2: they want to. I don't either.

549
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Speaker 4: On the Ravens side of this, the Ravens only ran

550
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 4: forty offensive plays in this game. Derrick Henry was eleven

551
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Speaker 4: carries for one hundred yards. Lamar Jackson threw twelve passes

552
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Speaker 4: in the game for one hundred and fifty yards and

553
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Speaker 4: two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: They were never on offense in this game, no, which

556
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Speaker 4: I don't understand. I mean Cincinnati was three to fifteen

557
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 4: on third down. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

558
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: Cincinnati possessed the ball for forty minutes in this game,

559
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: forty to twenty. This game also featured quite quite possibly

560
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 4: the smoothest It was a handoff on a pick six

561
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 4: I've ever seen.

562
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: Big guy, big guy. It was picked off.

563
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 4: By Kyle van Noy, and then Van Noy hands it

564
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Speaker 4: to Ae Looe Gillman and he goes eighty four yards

565
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 4: to the crip. But it was just kind of a

566
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 4: beautiful play. Yeah, Bengals, this is there. It's supremely disappointing.

567
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we move on. The Houston Texans, much like the

568
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: forty nine ers, just kind of hanging around and doing

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Speaker 3: so well. They've won six in a row. After being

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Speaker 3: three and five, they're now nine and five. They take

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Speaker 3: down the Arizona Cardinals forty to twenty. The last three

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00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: games for the Texans, Raiders, Chargers, Colts.

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Speaker 4: Nathan's girl one thought, yeah, this is a team right

574
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Speaker 4: now that is peaking on its way into the playoffs,

575
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Speaker 4: even with the injuries. Now what he marks, They said

576
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Speaker 4: he's going to be fine, But they got another guy

577
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 4: who went in there Jordan and he ran for one

578
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Speaker 4: hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: CJ.

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Speaker 4: Surroud twenty two to twenty nine, two sixty and three

581
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Speaker 4: Nicos playing well Dalton Schultz. Their defense continues to be smothering.

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Speaker 4: You know, it was really for the for all intents

583
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Speaker 4: and purposes, for three quarters, they basically held the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: to seven points. It was basically thirty to seven late

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Speaker 4: in the third.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to twenty.

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Speaker 4: That's fine, but the Texans are I think a legit

588
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl contender at this point. And on the other side,

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Speaker 4: Trey McBride I said it going into it this year,

590
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Speaker 4: but going into next year as well, Trey McBride's gonna

591
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 4: be worth a fantasy pick in.

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Speaker 2: The first round. Yeah, for sure.

593
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Speaker 4: Because he is such a positional advantage at his position.

594
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 4: The guys every week is unbelievable. Had twelve for one

595
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Speaker 4: thirty four and two more touchdowns this week.

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Speaker 2: This stretch of play from CJ. Stroud has been really good.

597
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: That game from him was awesome. That was like back

598
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Speaker 2: rookie year, CJ. When you're like, oh, he might end

599
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: up being a top five quarterback in the league. That's

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00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: what he looked like. If they get back to that

601
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: and they're getting healthy around him, a little bit of

602
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: a run game, and the defense is as real as

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00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: can be. So yeah, I think I think Houston is

604
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: a team a big time consequence, big time Yes.

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00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 3: Next it was Jacksonville taking down the New York Football

606
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: Jets forty eight to twenty. Now the Jags final three

607
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: Jaggs with a sneaky big game on Sunday. They are

608
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: in Denver at four o'clock on Fox.

609
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 4: We're gonna find out a little bit about the if,

610
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: Like this is what we're seeing right now is real.

611
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence is playing as well as anybody in the

612
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 4: league this week twenty thirty two for three thirty five touchdowns,

613
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Speaker 4: no picks, and he ran for fifty one yards in

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Speaker 4: a touchdown. Nobody'd ever done that before three thirty five

615
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 4: and then also run for a touchdown with fifty yards rushing.

616
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 4: So that was a singularly great game. Brian Thomas is

617
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 4: coming to live. Etn's playing well and their defense takes

618
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 4: the football away. They've been doing it all season long.

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Speaker 4: They're it stinks because we have their pick and that

620
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: ship has sailed on that being an early.

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Speaker 2: Pick yep, but this is gonna to me.

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Speaker 4: This is a big test, Like I'm still not sure

623
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Speaker 4: how real they are.

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00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: Well, if you just go so the last time they

625
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: lost it was to Houston in Houston thirty six twenty nine.

626
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: Then they beat the Charges at home thirty five to six.

627
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: They beat the fields. It is twenty seven to twenty four,

628
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: Titans twenty five to three, Colts thirty six nineteen, Jets

629
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: forty eight to twenty. They are annihilating bad teams. I

630
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: think this is what happens when you hire a culture Tornado.

631
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: And it may have been an awkward hiring press conference

632
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: for him with the due ball, but clear that dude

633
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: is a dude. They respect him. He's got a little

634
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: bit of that Kyle Gangster quality to him. Coach, and

635
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: he coaches it. And he's got Lawrence playing what everybody

636
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: thought he would be when he was drafted. It. It

637
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: was funny though, like I'm curious if this happened in

638
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: your league, like in my league, and I was looking

639
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: in the boys leagues, just someone's like Trevor Lawrence wrecked

640
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 2: the fantasy playoffs. He was on rosters and didn't get played,

641
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: Like people didn't play him because he hasn't been an

642
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: automatic fantasy play.

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Speaker 4: No, you know, you're right that didn't know there were

644
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 4: a lot like a lot of people had that Kyle

645
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 4: Pitts was the one that was.

646
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe the one person for Jacksonville that has helped

647
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: turn this around as much as anybody as Jacobe Myers. Well,

648
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: they acquired him from the Raiders November fourth. Since then

649
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: he's been the Jags leader in catches and receiving yards

650
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: twenty seven for three point fifty five.

651
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: You know, that's a great point. You know what else

652
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: is a great point as they're doing this without Travis Hunter.

653
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: That's why they got in here, you know. I mean,

654
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: like Travis hasn't played during this run, and they look

655
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: what they gave up to get him, draft him to

656
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: all that stuff. Yeah.

657
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: Up next, the Chargers survive and in doing so, eliminate

658
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs sixteen thirteen, The Charge finding a

659
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: way with their broken handed quarterback bo Bishop.

660
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: One thought, I don't know that I would have had

661
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: like the end of this run for Patrick Mahomes being

662
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew in a game against the Los Angeles Chargers

663
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: throwing an interception to clinch a victory for the Chargers.

664
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: I don't know that I would have had it. We

665
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: live currently in a society that is really quick to

666
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: forget things. Tragedy happens, good things happen. The next we're

667
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: on the next. What's next, What's next, what's the next

668
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 2: thing that's going to satiate? Give some thought to this

669
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: run of Kansas City's because the fact that they've done

670
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: what they've done through the eight years that he's been

671
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: a starter is it's just stupefying that the worst he's

672
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: ever done is AFC Championship game loss and only to

673
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: Burrow and Brady. That's it. Those are the two guys

674
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 2: who beat him in AFC Championship games. Other than that,

675
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: every season for him ended in the Super Bowl. Three

676
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: of them, of course, ended in wins. It's a stunning run.

677
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: I absolutely, it's a dynasty ssolutely that that stretch of

678
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: play that they had in the type of dominance. And

679
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what happens next. I don't know because

680
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: even before the injury to the knee, he wasn't the

681
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: same player. Now, he wasn't able to drive the ball

682
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: down the field the way that he did as a

683
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: younger player. They offensively, they've been kind of starts and

684
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: stops for the last couple of years compared to what

685
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: they were middling perfect before and and so they're gonna

686
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: pivot here. They're gonna get a better draft pick than

687
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: they ever would have thought. It could end up being

688
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: somewhere in the middle of the team, so they could

689
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: get offensive line or weapons, but their defenses aging. The

690
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: New England Patriots were able to pivot off of Brady

691
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: in part because they had a bad division for most

692
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: of the time of his career and that helped, but

693
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: also because they had different versions of that team that

694
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 2: was built around him, and they could always find the

695
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: guys that he wanted. When Wes Welker went to Denver,

696
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: they found Edelman, like they Gronk is in and they

697
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: always had something. When Randy went away, then they get Gronk,

698
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: so they always had a guy to like take care

699
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: of him. I don't know who that is in Kansas

700
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: City right now, and I don't know. I'd be very

701
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: curious to see what the next five years looks like

702
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: for him. There he's a gold jacket right now, but like,

703
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: what did the next five years look like? Because he's

704
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: still relatively young.

705
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna I imagine they'll take another run at

706
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 4: building it back up again, but it's gonna be tough.

707
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: And on the other side of that is you were

708
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 4: right on with your Chiefs is this is a Chargers

709
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 4: team that doesn't seem like they're that good and they

710
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 4: just kind of win.

711
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: They do. It's a little seem great. It's a little

712
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: Harbaugh San Francisco. Yeah, Like I'm I'm not right now.

713
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 4: They would be the next team on my list that

714
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: I don't think actually could really come out of the AFC.

715
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 4: Like I don't think the Steelers can, and I don't

716
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 4: think that they can, but they've beaten back.

717
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: They just beat the Eagles and Chiefs back to back weeks. Yeah, right,

718
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: that was a super Bowl a year ago.

719
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: You know, we we asked in the NFL Whip on

720
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 3: Sunday in the pregame show, like is there our dynasty

721
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: is dead now with this, like what's the next? Who's

722
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: the next team? Like Phillies had some success recently.

723
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: But well that's the beauty of that. I think we're

724
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: gonna we are going to go into a wide open

725
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: NFL playoffs, the most wide open that we've had the

726
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: entire time that we've been doing this. Show. We have said,

727
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: don't ever go against the Wizard in the playoffs ever,

728
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: and it's been sound because you knew they were going

729
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: to be there at the end. They're not now. One

730
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: thing about La and they had a bunch of injuries

731
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: that they battled through, and they still don't have the

732
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: weaponry that you'd want on the outside. But with a

733
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: mari and Hampton back and you got your boy that

734
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 2: Al Sassoon in there as well, that's right. The recipe

735
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: Harball wants the weird. Yeah.

736
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 4: The weird thing is like Lad McConkie in his rookie

737
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 4: year was so good and they just haven't been able

738
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 4: to really get him going.

739
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: Now you would think, no that he would.

740
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 4: I don't know they I'm with you, but it feels

741
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 4: like they kind of have to play and if you

742
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 4: look at look at their wins this year, they have

743
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 4: to play these kind of close games. They're good wins

744
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 4: this year.

745
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 2: They don't have weapons.

746
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 4: Bud beat the Chiefs by six, beat the Broncos by three,

747
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 4: They lose to the Giants, get smoked by the Commanders,

748
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 4: beat the Dolphins by two, get smoked by the Colts,

749
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 4: smoke the Vikings, beat the Titans, by seven.

750
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: Smoke. The Steelers get blasted thirty.

751
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 4: Five to six by the Jags, whooped the Raiders, and

752
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 4: they beat the Eagles by three and the Chiefs by three.

753
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 2: I mean the majority of their wins are tight a

754
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: field goal or less. But when they if they can

755
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: get weapons for him, I mean they put a lot

756
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: of draft picks towards it. Quick.

757
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 4: McCaffrey was the second round. McConkie was a second rounder,

758
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 4: Quintin Johnson was a first rounder. Trey Harris was the

759
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 4: second rounder.

760
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they got a hit on those guys. Yeah.

761
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: Up next, the Bills come back from twenty plus points

762
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: down to take down the New England Pay in Foxborough

763
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: thirty five thirty one, the final score. New England's final

764
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: three games Baltimore Sunday Night, Sign Me Up, Jets, Dolphins, Buffalo,

765
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: has US, Philly and the Jets.

766
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 4: I think even if the Bills go three and h

767
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 4: Patriots go two and just and they have to beat

768
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: the Dolphins and the Jets, which I believe they will,

769
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 4: and they'll be in. This was a wild one to lose,

770
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 4: not it was probably Drake May's worst game throwing the football.

771
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. The two rushing touchdowns. Travion is just electric.

772
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: I said this morning, like if Remandre Stevenson doesn't get hurt,

773
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: do we ever see him? I haven't known, Like Mike

774
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: didn't want to play him. It was so strange. And

775
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: he's an electric factory. Those two that big run reburst

776
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: in two of them. They were up twenty one nothing

777
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 2: in this game. If New England was in the second quarter.

778
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a fifty two yard touchdown run and

779
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: a sixty five yard touchdown run in this game.

780
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: Home run hitter.

781
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, why are they even wasting the touch

782
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 4: and now reminder, we were in six times for fifty yards,

783
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 4: so I guess that's not too bad. But yeah, I

784
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 4: would want him out there more often. But a heck

785
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: of a comeback from the Bills. It's it's basically Alan

786
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 4: and Cook. I mean, they are the quarterback, the running

787
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 4: back they still don't have. I'd love to see what

788
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 4: they would look like with a real dude at receiver

789
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: for him.

790
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter matter,

791
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 2: I guess for me with this was like a little

792
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: bit of a all right, settle down New England. I'm

793
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: shocked they blew this gain me too. Especially up to

794
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 2: twenty one, it was a little bit of a settle

795
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: down doing. I mean, it's twenty four to seven at half,

796
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 2: for crying out loud. Yeah, but it was a little

797
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: bit al right, settle down Buffalo.

798
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 6: Guys.

799
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: Just think how how fragile all this is. Buffalo's down

800
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: two scores to Cincinnati at home the week before.

801
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 6: Yep.

802
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 2: Now we're saying Cincinnati's at a crossroads franchise wise, Buffalo

803
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: is the favorite in the AFC. Yep. So if not

804
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: now when Buffalo this is real time, it is there

805
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: to I still don't I would.

806
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 4: I would intellectually understand it because Josh Allen's the best player. Yeah,

807
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 4: but I still don't think there are a team that's

808
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 4: going to be able to beat multiple good teams in

809
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 4: a row.

810
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. But everyone they're gonna play is gonna be wildly inexperienced. Yeah,

811
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: you know, whether it's Stroud or Knicks or you know,

812
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: May Again or Lawrence, like guys who just haven't been

813
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: in these spots.

814
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 4: It does feel like this is going to be one

815
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 4: of those years that, like where it was for a

816
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 4: long time, where whoever comes out of the NFC is

817
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 4: going to be favored and the.

818
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: Savor to go.

819
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, which one of you wants this one?

820
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 3: Because we're just gonna do one here to speed it up,

821
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: speed it up. Comedy's twenty nine Giants full show. Buddy,

822
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: look at the rundow.

823
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: I did look at it, and I like this right now,

824
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: I'll go ahead, you can do this one. Who cares done?

825
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: I think they both probably want to lose. Honestly, you'd

826
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: probably want better picks. And yeah, this just a bad game.

827
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: Play out the string. I mean, that's quite The Giants.

828
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: Are the Giants do the Giants? Are they sold on

829
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: Dart Well? I'll tell you what else was interesting. I

830
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: don't know if he's heard again. I don't know if

831
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: you picked I know it. I would think that they

832
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: have they can't roll the dice with him, just because

833
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 2: the way he plays. I did pick up in Diana

834
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: Russini's piece over the weekend that the Giants have their

835
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: eyes on Marcus Freeman, among others, and I think that

836
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: that probably lines up well with what Pete Bavakua's press

837
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: conference and Notre Dame Athletic Roctor had last week about

838
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: whatever Marcus needs. All of that. I think they sense

839
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: the heat coming for him to be an NFL head coach,

840
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: and so that's something to watch for.

841
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 3: Interesting game to note in the Giants Final three Sunday,

842
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: the twenty eighth of December. I don't know why, oh,

843
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: I know why. It's a four or five game. They're

844
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 3: on the West Coast. Giants and Raiders two and twelve

845
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 3: versus two and twelve Draft Super Bowl Kids. Something to watch.

846
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: Final one in the early slight Eagles thirty one. Speaking

847
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: of those Raiders, they didn't score bol Bishop it's.

848
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: Seventy five yards in the Louise brutal and Pete Carroll's

849
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: praising their effort. Our guy, Kenny Pickett. I had this

850
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: dead wrong. I thought he'd play well. He did not

851
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: finish the twenty five sixty four yards. If you factor

852
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: in the sacks who sacked four times, you factor in

853
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: the sacks. In terms of offense account for Kenny Pickett

854
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,959
Speaker 2: at twenty nine yards of offense accounted for in this game.

855
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: Twenty nine yards? Is that good? That's not good? No,

856
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: not good? Gross gross game, just gross more.

857
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 3: Than some other things. Late window we go. Broncos thirty four,

858
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 3: Packers twenty six. Nathan Zegirl will start off.

859
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 4: It's a big win for this team, and it's a

860
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 4: big This is big for bo Nicks. That's a darn

861
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 4: good defense and he threw for three h two and

862
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 4: four touchdowns against them. It was a big This was

863
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 4: this is Denver saying you know what, Yeah, we can go.

864
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 4: We can go do it. We have superstars on defense.

865
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 4: You talked to me yesterday about the place or Tan made.

866
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 4: We got Nick Benido. We can we can do it defensively,

867
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 4: and bo Nix is showing right now he can do

868
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 4: it offensively, getting it to Ston, getting it to Franklin,

869
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 4: Little Jordan Humphrey for big drew out there, got in

870
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 4: the end zone as well. They're running r. J. Harvey's

871
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 4: now the guy. There's a big win, big win for them.

872
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 4: Just a disappointing loss for the Packers and a big,

873
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 4: big win in my opinion, for the Denver Broncos.

874
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: Here's your It's a massive win for Denver. You gotta

875
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: put respect on what Sean Payton's done there. It's unbelievable

876
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: to be twelve and two. They haven't lost since Week three.

877
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 2: It's twenty four to thirteen, I'm sorry, twenty three to

878
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: fourteen and the third, early in the third, and Green

879
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: Bay's driving. They're driving, and they're going for the home

880
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: run ball. They're up nine, they're going for the home

881
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: run ball. They dial it up. Christian Watson gets behind

882
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: Patrick Sirtan, Jordan Love makes a good throw, not an

883
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: elite throw, but a good throw, and Sirtan makes an

884
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: all world play on it. He's tracking him step for

885
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,280
Speaker 2: step and he just I don't know how he means you.

886
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: He just elevates and steals it from Christian Watson. Watson

887
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: is down with an injury. They score on the seventh play,

888
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: seventy one yard drive. Right after that, then Green Bay

889
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: go's punt. They score on another seventy yard drive, and

890
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: you go from going in up thirty to fourteen. Because

891
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: if they complete the past to Watson, they're probably gonna

892
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: score again. It's over yep, and instead one play flipped it.

893
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 4: And this team, this Broncos team, believes that is going

894
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 4: to deliver in the fourth quarter.

895
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: It does. They have done that all year. Jordan Love

896
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: with a couple of picks in the second half to

897
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 2: the one. Sirtan may no world play on that one, though, Yeah,

898
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: that I saw that play the entire game. Yeah, he's

899
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 2: stud uh next.

900
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: Rammitt continues their march through the NFC. After that lost

901
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: to Carolina, they seem to have regained their footing quite nicely.

902
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: Rammit downs the Lions forty one thirty four. As the

903
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 3: girl one thought.

904
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: This was a good game. This is a fun game.

905
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 4: You had Goff was out there slinging it to aman

906
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 4: Rah and Jamison. Those two had twenty catches for three

907
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 4: hundred yards and three touchdowns. They were basically the offense

908
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 4: kind of disappointed they couldn't get Gibbs going.

909
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: Rams did a great job on him. The Rams have

910
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 2: kind of.

911
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 4: Discovered something now where they're going alternating with Karen Williams

912
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 4: and Blake Forham, He's playing well. Stafford continues to put

913
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 4: up absurd numbers just and Pookinakua. Pookinakua is like Jason

914
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 4: Smith and Jigba and I'm on Roth. Those are probably

915
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 4: the three most productive weekend and week out receivers in

916
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 4: the NFL.

917
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, every single week for teams that are winning, Chase

918
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: is hav an amazing year, but their team stinks. But

919
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: this is another one of those though, Like you think

920
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: about the way that this switches the Lions are they

921
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: lead for the whole half. They're up ten right before half,

922
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 2: and then the Rams able to get a field goal

923
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: with thirty seconds left before half to get it to

924
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: a seven point game. Then they get another field goal

925
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: to start the third. You get a stop, then they

926
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: get ato their touchdown, and then it's a waterfall. From

927
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: that standpoint, this is one of the biggest next two

928
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 2: months that I can recall legacy wise for an NFL player.

929
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford right now is probably a borderline Hall of Famer.

930
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: He's probably a borderline ish right now in out, probably

931
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: more out than in. If he wins the MVP at

932
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: age thirty eight and becomes the oldest player to ever

933
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: win the MVP, and he wins the super Bowl and automatic,

934
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 2: now you're a two time super Bowl champion and an MVP.

935
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: Now you're a first ballot. That's what changes. And what's

936
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 2: interesting about it is he doesn't have the benefit of time.

937
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: There aren't that many more seasons like this, probably for him.

938
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: He's thirty eight, so there's not that many left. He

939
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: might have two or three more with this window with

940
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: the Rams where they're gonna be really, really good. But

941
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: when you think about somebody who is so universe, and

942
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: then he's got all the stats from Detroit that you

943
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: can that are all there forever, But he just needs

944
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: a few more accomplishments. You get an MVP and right

945
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: now he's the favorite, and then you get back to

946
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: a super Bowl and if you win it. I think

947
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: he needs to win the MVP and win the Super Bowl,

948
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: or at least when the give he wins the MVP,

949
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: I think he might get it. But I think if

950
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: he's zero time first or second team All Pro zero. Yeah,

951
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: but quarterbacks different because you Oakland have one, and he

952
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 2: played an era with Brady and Manning and all those guys,

953
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: So I think quarterbacks a little different than some of

954
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: the other positions. Two time Pro Bowler. That's shocking to

955
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: me anyway, that the two time Pro Bowls pretty wild.

956
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 2: That he wasn't Pro Bowlers more time in seventeen seasons.

957
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: That's weird. Weird he wasn't more. If you get it

958
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 2: but you don't play in it, does it count? I mean,

959
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: to be fair, he was.

960
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 4: The comeback Player of the Year in twenty eleven. He

961
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 4: wasn't even a Pro Bowler or a first or second

962
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 4: team All Pro in the year where he throws for

963
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 4: five thousand and thirty eight yards, forty one touchdowns and

964
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 4: sixteen picks and they go ten and six.

965
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: I don't understand. That doesn't make much sense to me. Yeah,

966
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: but it's right there for him.

967
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: Next up, we'll speed it up here. The Saints have

968
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: four wins on the year, two of them are against

969
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers.

970
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: That's going to cost those Panthers.

971
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: Go figure that one out. Saints by the way final

972
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 3: three games. And again, if we're talking about draft, Super Bowls,

973
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 3: Saints and Jets this weekend, Saints and Titans next week.

974
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 3: So you have Saints and Titans and Giants and Raiders

975
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: next week.

976
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: I mean, the Carolina Panthers had the ball tied at

977
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: seventeen and all you do is get a field goal,

978
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: and they couldn't get one. Yeah, this was a bitter pill.

979
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Tyler Shuck can play a little

980
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 2: and Kellen Moore is doing a good job with him.

981
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: He can play a little bit. He was good in

982
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: this one, twenty four to thirty two, two seventy two,

983
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: a touchdown, no picks, ran for another thirty two yards.

984
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: They don't have much in the run game, so he's

985
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,479
Speaker 2: having to do a lot, but he's had a decent

986
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: little stretch of play here.

987
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 4: It says it's probably the second best game of his career.

988
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 4: It's kind of, you know, the week before he goes

989
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: thirteen to twenty for one forty four and a pick.

990
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 4: Week before that two thirty nine, two touchdowns, one pick.

991
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 4: But he's completed at least sixty five percent of his

992
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 4: passes now in five straight games.

993
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: That was good.

994
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, ironically his two best games will come against Carolina.

995
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 4: There must be something. And the styles make the fights

996
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 4: right there in terms of what they're doing offensively versus

997
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 4: that defensive system. But no, I think you feel you're

998
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 4: feeling a little bit better about it. And the numbers

999
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 4: are certainly not gaudy by any stretch of the imagination.

1000
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 2: But they're not a very good team.

1001
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 4: No, And it was funny in this one, and I

1002
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 4: just know this from fantasy because a Lave was on

1003
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 4: my team. Yeah, a lave going into that the drive

1004
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 4: where they scored pretty sure, I had like three catches

1005
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 4: for twenty yards the driver they scored two twenty nine

1006
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 4: left and on that drive he caught three for like

1007
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 4: sixty five and in the touchdown, it was like a

1008
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 4: lave lave lave a lot of make up four on

1009
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 4: that drive, maybe had two catches for that. It was

1010
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 4: just every play was to a lava and it's like, hey,

1011
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 4: maybe should that all game long?

1012
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: Right?

1013
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 3: All right, gents, we'll speed it up.

1014
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 2: Misters.

1015
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: Asta was waiting at four o'clock. Yes, Seahawks eighteen, Colts sixteen.

1016
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 4: Uh, it's just it's just incredible that Philip Rivers was

1017
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 4: able to do this, Like it's I don't know that

1018
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 4: and if they had won this game in Seattle, which

1019
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 4: they were a fifty six yard field goal and the

1020
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 4: waning seconds away from they would have.

1021
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: But it's just it's incredible. It's crazy. We had two

1022
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: thirds of his passes, I know. Yeah, And it was

1023
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: the closest thing watching it was most manic. Huh with

1024
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: Denver where he was kind of having to anticipate just

1025
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: way ahead its schedule. Could you even imagine being able

1026
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: to in shape He's not in shape the speed of

1027
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: the NFL, like he's been probably throwing the ball to

1028
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 2: high school receivers and then all of a sudden having

1029
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: to throw it to NFL receivers and that speed he

1030
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: even made some tight window throws. It's crazy. It was

1031
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: crazy Seattle. I'm very curious see how they play Thursday

1032
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 2: against the Rams. They're in a bit of a lull

1033
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 2: advanc Yeah, it's Sam Darnold effect well, and they also

1034
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: only have jsn Yeah, like they don't have anything on

1035
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: the outside that's scary at all.

1036
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 4: So this time they got Shaheed going a little bit.

1037
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 4: Cooper cups clearly cooked. They got to get Shaheed more

1038
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 4: of Shaheed than they'll be.

1039
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 2: I think that that's why they made that trade.

1040
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 3: Oh forty nine Ers take down the Titans thirty seven

1041
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 3: to twenty four Pedro nude.

1042
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: By the way, cambl Ward's getting better.

1043
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 4: He is in this one, eighteen to twenty nine, one

1044
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 4: seventy two touchdowns, had another one that should have been

1045
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 4: a touchdown that was dropped, missed one that should have

1046
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 4: been a touchdoup. But he's playing better. Niners are just

1047
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 4: so stinking solid. Party was surgical in this one. They're

1048
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 4: just a solid football team even and it's ill sorng

1049
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 4: with my dad actually yesterday about it. It's a shame

1050
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 4: they don't have their defense because this is a team

1051
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 4: that I think could really make I think it's gonna

1052
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 4: be very hard for them to come out of the

1053
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 4: NFC just because they're defensive.

1054
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: They can't they cannot sack the quarterback, they cannot pressure

1055
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 2: the quarterback.

1056
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: And you can't beat three or four good quarterbacks in

1057
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 4: a row if you can't distress them.

1058
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1059
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 3: Final one Vikings thirty four, Cowboys twenty six bo Bishop

1060
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: Sunday Night four.

1061
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys run of play here recently is stupid,

1062
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 2: really crazy to it? Is you just I mean, you

1063
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: get Minnesota at home, it's Sunday Night, like, okay, we're

1064
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: all in on offense. But this stretch now where they

1065
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: lost two in a row, really get bombed by Detroit

1066
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: and then lose it home to the Vikings after winning

1067
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 2: three in a row. They have a they have some

1068
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: crazy losses. They've got a loss at at home to

1069
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: the Cardinals twenty seven to seventeen. They lost at the Panthers.

1070
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 7: Uh.

1071
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: Just a weird season for Dallas, very strange and you know,

1072
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: kind of another kind of a wasted one for them.

1073
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't read, I don't We'll see

1074
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: what happens with McCarthy on this. If this means anything

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Speaker 2: long term or not. But I suppose if you're a

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Speaker 2: Vikings fan, you're happy that at least the kid got

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Speaker 2: to win back in back games. He's played well played. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that is one thought for Week fifteen in the National.

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00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 2: Still nothing from Jefferson though, like they can't. They tried.

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Speaker 2: can talk a little bit about the Bears and the Browns,

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00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: but what I'm what I'm what I'm more interested in

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00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: is what happened sixteen, seventeen years ago today, My friend,

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00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 2: you were in the Snow Bowl game between us and

1102
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: the Bills. I was there in attendance. It was true

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00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 2: Lee in every sense. It's a snow globe game. From

1104
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: your perspective, what do you remember about that game? The

1105
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: challenges of that game? You and Phil Dawson were the heroes, buddy.

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00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, those games are are interesting when you look back. Gosh,

1107
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 7: that was what two thousand and seventh, I think it

1108
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 7: was December sixteenth.

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00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, this just day back in two thousand and seven.

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00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 7: It's kind of you kind of remember bits and pieces.

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00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 7: And there's no secret that Phil Dawson, you know, especially

1112
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 7: not only in that game in that year, it has

1113
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 7: had some incredible field goals. A couple of things I

1114
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 7: remember was I hit a punt and it was close

1115
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 7: to fifty yard line and I remember looking at in

1116
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 7: the air and it kind of took off as a

1117
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 7: as a kicked it. And I still remember going, oh, man,

1118
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 7: this is going to hit and go in the end zone.

1119
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 7: And you know, he never wanted that as a punter,

1120
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 7: and it just died. It just died on like the

1121
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 7: one or two yard line. And I remember just walk

1122
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 7: running off the field, getting high five, saying to myself,

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00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 7: oh thank.

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00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 6: God, thank god that didn't go in the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: So and then obviously, you know.

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00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 7: I think we called a timeout Romeo Cronell did to

1128
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 7: clear the field for some of those, you know, just

1129
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 7: enormous field goals.

1130
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 6: But I'll tell you what.

1131
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 7: The biggest thing I remember was the wind was blowing

1132
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 7: left to right, going in the opposite way of the

1133
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 7: dog Pound.

1134
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 6: But Phill Dawson goes down.

1135
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 7: I said, hey, Phil, I said, hold on, give me

1136
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 7: a second. I'm going to clear out this area. I'll

1137
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 7: try to get the best I can. The problem is

1138
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 7: you couldn't do with your hand because you had to

1139
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 7: catch the ball and your hand would just turn numb.

1140
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 7: So you're kind of using your cleats and you know

1141
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 7: you're trying to do the best you can. Well. Phil says, hey, Dave,

1142
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 7: see that guy in the end zone with a bright jacket.

1143
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 7: And I go, yeah, you could have missed this guy.

1144
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 7: And this guy was probably five to seven yards left

1145
00:56:58,560 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 7: of the upright.

1146
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 6: He goes, I'm AIMI and writed him. I go stilled.

1147
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 7: I think that's a little wide man. That's that's that's

1148
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 7: that's out there. He goes, He goes, just watch and

1149
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 7: he said that to me, just watch. And when he

1150
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 7: and I felt so confident that he was going to

1151
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 7: make that field goal that if you watch the replay,

1152
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 7: it starts off left and literally goes towards that guy.

1153
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 7: I think you can still see him in a brown

1154
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 7: and orange outfit, and it ricochets back in and at

1155
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 7: that point I said, man, we have one of the

1156
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 7: better kickers I've ever I've ever seen.

1157
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: It's just incredible. It's incredible, and it comes back. Good

1158
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:33,959
Speaker 2: Lord Jesus, that's unbelievable. That is unbelievable. And you knew,

1159
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 2: and in watching I remember the game vividly, you knew

1160
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: that it wouldn't take much. It wasn't gonna take much

1161
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: so in order to get And that's another one too,

1162
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: like when people look and sometimes I think it's misguided,

1163
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: but people look back and go, oh, I was at

1164
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: this game. It was so great. It was freezing, it

1165
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: was cool now I was there. It sucked. It sucked,

1166
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: but it would have sucked a lot worse, buddy, if

1167
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: you guys had lost. I'll tell you that because what

1168
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: it what ended up happening was this kind of party

1169
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: in this frozen Cleveland downtown after that game, and everybody

1170
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 2: kind of tried to get warmed together the best they could.

1171
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: It was. It's one of those indelible memories. No one's

1172
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 2: ever going to forget who was a part.

1173
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 7: Of it now And I think when what fans never

1174
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 7: really understand and media probably for the most part. You know,

1175
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 7: when you kick and cold games, the ball just turns

1176
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 7: into a hard rock, so it doesn't give a lot,

1177
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 7: so you're not getting it, you know, as much hanging time,

1178
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 7: a's a distance. I think even in the game, I

1179
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 7: think Cairo Santos said, or the announcer set on the

1180
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 7: game that you know it's going to take seven yards

1181
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,439
Speaker 7: off of your field goal distance because of the weather.

1182
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 7: But what what the worst situation what's cold like that

1183
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 7: and snowing is when you have the wind, because then

1184
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 7: you know you're dropping a football mid air or trying

1185
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 7: to punt it and the winds blowing it off your foot.

1186
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 7: Now you're trying to hit a heart like solid rock ball.

1187
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 6: And the funniest thing is sometimes you.

1188
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 7: Come in the media after you have a bad game, like, hey, Dave,

1189
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 7: what was wrong? Why did you have such a bad

1190
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 7: punny game today? Well, I can tell you why very easily.

1191
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: But all was moving.

1192
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 6: It ball was moving and it was a rock and

1193
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 6: all that.

1194
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 7: But in all seriousness, guys, I think what was special

1195
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 7: about that game is you just felt like a kid again.

1196
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 7: You know, you're playing in backyard football in the snow,

1197
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 7: and you know the bands are out there making snowballs,

1198
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 7: and he just had that fun environment and I think

1199
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 7: our guys really embraced it and we went out luckily

1200
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 7: got an eight to zero win. But yeah, definitely some

1201
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 7: miraculous kicks in that game that I'll I'll never.

1202
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: Forget speaking of.

1203
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 4: And you mentioned what Cairo Santos said, how impressed have

1204
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 4: you been with you know way Andre Schmid has really

1205
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 4: bounced back since that opening week against Cincinnati and then

1206
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 4: for him to make a fifty yard or in Chicago

1207
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 4: was pretty impressive under those conditions.

1208
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 6: Oh, it's very impressive.

1209
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1210
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 7: After the first game, I believe it was Cincinnati, I

1211
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 7: think people are like, oh, here we go again, right,

1212
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 7: you know, we can't find a kicker.

1213
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 6: Since Phil Dawson.

1214
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 7: What he's been able to show is something that is

1215
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 7: very impressive, especially as a rookie kicker. A lot of

1216
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 7: times kids get rattled. I mean they get rattled at

1217
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 7: that first game on the big stage and they can't

1218
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 7: really overcome that. Then they go to another team, they

1219
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 7: get a fresh start in their mind kind of clears out.

1220
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 7: He was able to take that game, and I'll still

1221
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 7: remember it. He said in the interview, this was a technique.

1222
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 7: These were I missed these because of my technique. And

1223
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 7: you hear that a lot guys, But I know he's down.

1224
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 7: It's because they mentally just weren't ready for the moment.

1225
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 7: I believe now that he was serious, that he could

1226
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 7: tell that he had a technique here he fixed that,

1227
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 7: and now when he kicks a you know, forty fifty

1228
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 7: extra you know field going extra point, I firmly believe

1229
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 7: it's it's a guarantee, and that's the kind of confidence

1230
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 7: that you want in your kicker. And the fact that

1231
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 7: he's a rookie and he did it the hard way, right,

1232
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 7: He started off in a rough patch and he came

1233
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 7: back and settled down and fixed it. It just shows that,

1234
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 7: you know, I think we got a good kicker for

1235
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 7: years to come.

1236
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: I want to ask you something on that side of it,

1237
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: because we're at the point now where and I'll even

1238
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: hear it from announcers where if a guy misses, like

1239
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: a fifty two yard field goal, we're like, what what happened?

1240
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: Especially Aubrey? Yeah, like what happened? How's he missing?

1241
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 3: Like?

1242
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 4: Those are gimmes. Think about the Ndie Seattle game. Indy

1243
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 4: takes the lead on a sixty yard or yes, and

1244
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 4: then Seattle wins it on a fifty to sixty.

1245
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 2: Six and both were true as can be. Yeah, what

1246
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: do you attribute that to? Dave?

1247
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 6: You know the there's a couple of things.

1248
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1249
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 7: Obviously, these guys get them an opportunity before the game.

1250
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 7: I think it's an hour to really pay somebody maybe

1251
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 7: not paying, but you know, get somebody to rub down

1252
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 7: the ball, get the wax off, breaking the ends to

1253
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 7: really soften that ball. I also think it's just the

1254
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 7: evolution of the game. People are, you know, a lot

1255
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 7: stronger these days. I think they take their nutrition. I

1256
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 7: think they take weightlifting, you got yoga, you got all

1257
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 7: these things that over the years people started doing. And

1258
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 7: these guys are the beneficiaries of years of people giving

1259
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 7: recommendations and taking those and running with them. But you

1260
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 7: got a lot of guys that are just clearly stronger.

1261
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 6: I will I will tell you this.

1262
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 7: I talked to a lot of the great kickers over

1263
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 7: the years, and I always ask them, hey, when you

1264
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 7: when you get this sixty yard or sixty one yarder,

1265
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 7: I mean, I gotta think that's a lot of pressure, right,

1266
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 7: And I'll never forget, you know, from Phil to j

1267
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 7: Feely to Matt's do over back, there's really not that

1268
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 7: much pressure on those kicks, guys, because people if you

1269
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 7: make it, people go crazy because it's such a far

1270
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 7: field goal. True, they don't have any pressure. They don't

1271
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 7: have any pressure because if you miss it, it's like,

1272
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 7: oh it was a long field goal and you know,

1273
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 7: maybe a little wind. The field goal kicks, they always

1274
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 7: talked about it between forty and forty nine yards. If

1275
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 7: you could find a kicker that had a high percentage

1276
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 7: between forty and forty nine yards, you knew right then

1277
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 7: and there you had somethany that is somebody that you

1278
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 7: never wanted to let go because.

1279
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 6: Those are the pressure kicks.

1280
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 7: Those are the ones that you're going to get probably

1281
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 7: more opportunities than a sixty sixty one yarder.

1282
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 6: If you're consistently hitting those, then you know you got

1283
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 6: a really good kicker in your hands.

1284
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: Like what do you how do you you know?

1285
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 4: You said, these guys are stronger there. But take a

1286
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 4: guy like, for example, Nick Folks. Nick Folk's been in

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Speaker 4: the league since two thousand and seven, and at the

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Speaker 4: beginning of his career he was, you know, at best,

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Speaker 4: maybe fifty percent from fifty yards plus was kind of

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Speaker 4: the way that he started his career.

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Speaker 2: At the last three years, he's eighteen of twenty at

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Speaker 2: the ages of thirty nine, forty and forty one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and his.

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Speaker 4: Career, his longs have all come in those last three years.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he made a fifty eight yard this year.

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Speaker 4: He'd never made a fifty eight yard for he made

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Speaker 4: a fifty six yard of this year. Last time he

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Speaker 4: made a fifty six yard it was twenty ten.

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Speaker 2: What kind of sense is it? I feel like they

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Speaker 2: maybe are there just juicing up the balls. I mean,

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Speaker 2: because it is you're seeing things. A kid down in

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville made a seventy yarder in preseason seventy yard it.

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Speaker 6: Yep, Yeah, I've been I've been out of the game

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Speaker 6: a little bit too long.

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Speaker 7: Maybe maybe they're giving those guys now an hour and

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Speaker 7: a half to break down these balls before he keeps

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Speaker 7: them during the week and put them in the washer

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Speaker 7: and dryer and wet them with tyles and all that.

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Speaker 7: And that's the only thing I can think of. By Yeah,

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Speaker 7: Nick Folk, It's amazing he's still doing it. There's so

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Speaker 7: many things about the National Football League that timing helps. Right,

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Speaker 7: Maybe you have a rough year, rough year, and then

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Speaker 7: you know, you get cut and.

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Speaker 6: That special teams coach still believes you.

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Speaker 7: He goes to another team and maybe you have a

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Speaker 7: great year with him, and then you have another great year. Well,

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Speaker 7: it's like a back, it's like a backup quarterback. He

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Speaker 7: goes in, has a great season, He's going to be

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Speaker 7: a backup.

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Speaker 6: For fifteen years. And I think kicking is kind of

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Speaker 6: similar to that.

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Speaker 7: If you can get through the rough times, put together

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Speaker 7: some consistent years and be above you know eighty percent,

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Speaker 7: you're going to be in the league a long time.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about this yesterday with the Hoff I

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Speaker 2: wanted to run it by you as well. You've got

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Speaker 2: three games less left to play here and one of

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Speaker 2: the things, and this goes back to July, that we

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01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 2: said you had to know, is do you have to

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Speaker 2: address quarterback in the offseason? Do you have to address

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Speaker 2: it in the draft? Like this has been going to

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Speaker 2: end up being a long runway for Shu or Sanders

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Speaker 2: being the starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns. But obviously

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Speaker 2: things are a struggle right now offensively as you like

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Speaker 2: all of us, although you're a little bit more educated

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Speaker 2: when you try to evaluate a young player amidst struggles,

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Speaker 2: what are the things that you look for?

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Speaker 7: Well, it's a very good question, and I think it's

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Speaker 7: what everybody's curious about right now. Right you got got

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Speaker 7: what four games under his belt, You've.

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Speaker 6: Got the Buffalo Bills coming to town, the Steelers in

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Speaker 6: the Bengals.

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Speaker 7: I mean, the road is not, you know, not a

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Speaker 7: great easy road, especially in cold weather in the winter.

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Speaker 7: You know, I think the ball to Jerry Judy, I thought,

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Speaker 7: I thought it was a great ball. You know, Unfortunately

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Speaker 7: that those mishaps have to happen, and an interception fortunate came.

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Speaker 7: But I mean the fact that he could thread that

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01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 7: needle and put it between two defensive backs right in

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Speaker 7: his chest is an impressive throw.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 7: There are still some signs that maybe he's holding on

1353
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 7: the ball a little bit too long. There are signs

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01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 7: that you throw an interception here there. I think we've

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01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 7: seen a couple of those, going hey, what did he

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01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 7: see there?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 7: That's part of being a rookie. That's part of you know,

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01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 7: coming in mid season and not having training camp. That's

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01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 7: part of not having that continuity with your receivers. And

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you what, guys, this, I said this the

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Speaker 7: other day. Sure, dear Sanders is in a tough spot.

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Speaker 7: You have you have a revolving offensive line. That the

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01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 7: most important, most continuity position, you know, you know in

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01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 7: the entire probably the entire National Football League, is having

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01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 7: an offensive line that knows each other, trusts each other

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01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 7: and plays together. And when you're shuffling those positions constantly,

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01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 7: there's gonna be communication errors. There's gonna be things that

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Speaker 7: are missed which causes sacks, causes the rushes a quarterback,

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Speaker 7: and then you combine that with a you know, wide

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Speaker 7: receivers that you know kind of you know, maybe not

1372
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Speaker 7: first second round, third round, guys that are off the

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Speaker 7: streets and trying to make a team and they're hard

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Speaker 7: workers and maybe they can be developed. And you put

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Speaker 7: all that together. I don't know what kind of quarterback

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Speaker 7: in this position could be that successful when you have

1377
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 7: so many dynamic changes going on and so many new

1378
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 7: young players playing together. So to answer your question, I

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01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 7: think it's little things. Is he getting the ball when

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01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 7: he outside the pocket, he is getting the ball out

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01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 7: of bounce and throwing it away. Is he making the

1382
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 7: right read. Maybe it's not complete, but he's making the

1383
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 7: right reason checking down when he's time to check down.

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01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 7: I think if you kind of see all those things

1385
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 7: and you see what you do in practice, it helps

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01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 7: them determine if they think they have something there. That's

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01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 7: going to be probably the case over the next three

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Speaker 7: weeks because you're going to have a high draft pick,

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Speaker 7: so be interesting. I would think those are some of

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01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 7: the things you look at. I think it is a

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01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 7: tough offense to be successful in.

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Speaker 4: Right now, how important if you wanted to kind of

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01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 4: say that you talked about those little things, but how

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01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 4: important is that that we find a way to win

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01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 4: one of these last three games and two of them

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Speaker 4: the next two. I'd run to see one of those

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Speaker 4: because those are teams that are playing for their playoff lives.

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Speaker 7: It's I mean, I think you hit the nail on

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Speaker 7: the head. Every game the National Footall League presents an

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Speaker 7: opportunity to get to win, and we talked about this year.

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Speaker 7: There's nothing like going in that locker room after the

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01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 7: game and getting to win. It's a it's a big

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01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 7: relief off your shoulders from all the hours you spent

1404
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 7: watching film, the hard work you put in. So you know,

1405
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 7: you know, there's there's always going to be the naysayers

1406
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 7: out there that go, hey, listen, we should never win

1407
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 7: another game, so to get a higher draft pick. That

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01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 7: doesn't build culture, That doesn't build the young guys that

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Speaker 7: are here that are draft picks understand what it means

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01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 7: to be a pro.

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Speaker 6: And so I always, I always, you.

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01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 7: Know, very much dislike those comments because you have so

1413
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 7: many young guys on this team that have to understand

1414
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 7: from leadership that a win's a win, and you then

1415
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 7: try to get another win and you build momentum going

1416
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 7: in the off season. Buffalo, you know that's gonna be

1417
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 7: a tough game, Josh, Allen's as good as it gets.

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Speaker 7: But I do believe if we can upset Pittsburgh and

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01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 7: get a win in Cincinnati, you're going to build some

1420
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 7: momentum going in this offseason that maybe the fans don't

1421
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 7: really believe in the way the season goes, but the

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Speaker 7: guys that are grinding out every day and learning and

1423
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 7: getting older, those are the guys that you really want to,

1424
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 7: you know, see you get a win for and hopefully,

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01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 7: like I said, build some momentum in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: You're the best, buddy, And thank you for those holds

1427
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 2: on those Phil Dawson kicks all those years ago. Greatly appreciated.

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Speaker 7: Yes, hey, you know what it was my play as

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01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 7: you're him and I always talked about. You know, I

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01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 7: always argue, I goes, I a better holder than Gardaki,

1431
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,560
Speaker 7: just because I know Gardaki and him were, so you know,

1432
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 7: he goes, he looks at me one day, he goes,

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01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 7: Gardaki was better than you.

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Speaker 6: I go, He's like I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 2: So not on that day, haven't.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe not on that say, but no, I.

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Speaker 7: Mean just having having Phil here for those years. Just

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01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 7: I learned a lot from him, and you know, I

1439
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 7: was lucky to be able to play with him. And

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01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 7: I think he's coaching somewhere now, So I don't I gotta,

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01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 7: I gotta punch base ones he always doing.

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01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 6: Uh, but not appreciate the comments.

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01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 2: All right, good talking to you, buddy. As always, that

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Speaker 4: This game was going to be about really two things

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Speaker 4: we talked about. Which team could run the football A

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Speaker 4: nice spin around by g men right there. Which team

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Speaker 4: could run the football, stop the run? Which team took

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Speaker 4: care of the football there is? The bottom line is

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Speaker 4: the Browns were not able to run the ball, and

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Speaker 4: they couldn't stop the run. And then the Browns were

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Speaker 4: They turned the football over three times. So going forward,

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Speaker 4: one of the things we are talking about your door, Sanders,

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Speaker 4: we've got to see that. We have got to see

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Speaker 4: this team be able to run the football a little

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Speaker 4: bit better than we've seen here, and that to me

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Speaker 4: has been the most disappointing thing I think we've got. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: we know it's been rough as far as things go

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Speaker 4: with special teams all year long, but this was, you know,

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Speaker 4: the three things we were supposed to do was play

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Speaker 4: great defense, and for the most part we've done that.

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Speaker 4: The last couple of weeks that hasn't been up to

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Speaker 4: our standards. I would say, run the football, and really

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Speaker 4: we haven't been able to do that.

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Speaker 2: In over a month. No, really run the football. We

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Speaker 2: just have big meetings.

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Speaker 4: Just there goes, there goes uh, and then you know,

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Speaker 4: be solid on special teams, which we have not done

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Speaker 4: at all. No, So this is this is this to me,

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Speaker 4: the running thing that's that's a little bit concerning. I

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Speaker 4: know it's the offensive line, and I know the injuries

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Speaker 4: and all of that, but there's some there's technique and

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Speaker 4: then there's will that are associated. And we heard Joe

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Speaker 4: Thomas talk about it yesterday. You got to get that

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Speaker 4: cleaned up. If you want to have any chance any

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Speaker 4: of these games, you've got to be able to on

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Speaker 4: first down be a team that can generate more than

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Speaker 4: two yards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we just don't far too often. No, and

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Speaker 2: you can't chase no scenario. No, no, no, you can't

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Speaker 2: get it. We're not built for it. Nope, not at all.

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Speaker 4: All.

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Speaker 2: Right, coming up next, we'll go around the league, take

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Speaker 2: the Christmas Day game for the Lions and the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Mister Dogg in the mix. Well, of course, as he

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Speaker 2: said's appropriate, he's a stuff.

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Speaker 4: How about the fact though, that right now, you look,

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01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 4: you would have said preseason what a slate? Right, what

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01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 4: a slate? Commanders were in the NFC Championship game a

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01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 4: year ago? It's the Cowboys, that's a no brainer. Lions

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01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 4: were in the NFC Championship Game of the year before that. Vikings,

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01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 4: you know, coming off of a great season, they were

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01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 4: going to be in the mix. The Broncos might be

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01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 4: the only team that plays on Christmas that's in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right, right, I mean, so you're gonna

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01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 2: get boned on I mean, if.

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01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 3: The Lions lose If the Lions lose Sunday to the Steelers, yeah,

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01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 3: they're out.

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01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: Broncos Chiefs is going to be Knicks against Minshew Yep,

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01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 2: Cowboys com they're the only team there it right, they're

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01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 2: in Cowboys Comis is one pm on Netflix. That is

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01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: that'll be Mariota and Dak Yep. But I mean playing

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01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 2: for nothing. And then Lions and Vikes are the four thirty.

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01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think these are going to do great.

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01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 4: The Lions have to make up two on the Packers.

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01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 4: Two they're gonna do because that is that's the Thursday,

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01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 4: right Christmas This Thursday. Yes, yeah, that's the Thursday of

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01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 4: week seventeen. That's like the kickoff of week seventeen. That's

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01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 4: the Fantasy super Bowls. So you'll get I mean not

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01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 4: that there are only two teams in.

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01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,919
Speaker 2: Every league that will be there in that, but nonetheless

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01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 2: that's got on throughout the throughout the country. Yeah, Lions

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01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 2: are two back and the win loss column to the

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01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 2: Niners and the Packers. And if they lose, they give

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01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 2: me his point, they're out. I'll tell you something else.

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01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 2: It's pretty interesting. Obviously, the NFL likes to stick it

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01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 2: to college football with their college football playoff and go

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01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 2: head to head with them, and so college for BLA

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01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 2: acquiesces and they play the great game on Friday night,

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01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 2: so it'll be I think it's Alabama Oklahoma on Friday.

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01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 2: Then they play the second best game on Saturday at noon.

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01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 2: And this one really should have been a night game.

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01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 2: It's Texas A and m hosting Miami is at noon

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01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 2: on Saturday, so the NFL. And then it'll be Oregon

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01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 2: and James Madison. James Madison is the last one of

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01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: the day. That's against Bears package. Yeah, and then too

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01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 2: Lane in Old Miss. So like those games aren't any

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01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 2: good because they want to stay away from the NFL. Well,

1552
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: when the NFL scheduled the five o'clock game on Saturday,

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01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: it's Eagles and Commies. Yeah, I mean nothing, you just

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01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, the light game's good. The eight

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01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 2: twenty game on Fox on Saturday night's good, Packers Bears.

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01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: I mean that's massive, that's massive. That's a massive game.

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01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 2: And the Thursday night er is massive. But in terms

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01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 2: of head to head with the college football it isn't.

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01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: It's not what they intended it to be. And that

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01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 2: the Christmas day slate is is very similar. I'm also

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01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 2: interested to know like what the appetite is for on

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01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 2: holidays seeking going to the streamers specifically, like not in

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01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 2: a YouTube TV window, not in a other window, but

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01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 2: going into the Netflix world and staying in there to

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01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 2: watch football. I'm wondering pretty well last year, what was

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01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 2: that game though, wasn't it? Wasn't it the chief Steelers?

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01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 2: I think it was cheap Steelers And then yeah, that's

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01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 2: yeah because of the fourteen fourteen and then the game

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01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 2: on the week before, wasn't it Chiefs Texans? Yep? Yeah,

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01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 2: they had to play Ravens. Steelers went head to head

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01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 2: against college football. That that's how week before. That's how

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Speaker 2: they did it.

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Speaker 4: It was a fourteen pod and the Ravens got like annihilated.

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01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 4: Either the Ravens got annihilated or they annihilated Texans. But

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01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 4: that game was a blowout.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what was thirty to two?

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01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 7: Who?

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01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 2: I think the Ravens won? Raven's bomb the Houston. It

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01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 2: was just a complete Yeah, it was a beating. Yeah,

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01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 2: that's what it was. C J. Strit I think had

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01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 2: an awful game. Thirty one to two.

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Speaker 4: That's got to be a score of Gami was. It's

1583
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 4: just a reservoir of information.

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01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 2: Is just like the Elias Swarby, just like right there.

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01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: He's like the guy I remember the the Schwab. Yeah,

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01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 2: the Swab. That was one of those ones where there

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01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 2: was a lane for him. Yep, that was that was

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01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 2: really good. And then they tried turning it into something bigger,

1589
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: not as good than not he was. He wasn't ready

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01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 2: to be a franchise. Yeah, not there yet, but really

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01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 2: good at one thing. And then didn't he get laid

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01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 2: off in one of their cuts. I'm sure he did. Wow. Yeah,

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01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 2: I think he passed away. I think you're right. I

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01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 2: think he did too. I think all right. Absolutely. Meantime,

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01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 2: NFL playoff picture with three games to go, just as

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01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 2: we all predicted in the AFC. The one seed is Denver,

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01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 2: the two seven game is New England and Houston, the

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01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 2: three six is Jacksonville and Buffalo, and the four to

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Speaker 2: five is Pittsburgh and the Chargers Indian Baltimore are the

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Speaker 2: next two. They are on the outside looking in. I

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Speaker 2: would venture to guess, and I'm sure you have it

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01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 2: in front of you, that this is the most off

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01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 2: we have ever been. If this is the way that

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01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 2: it stands on our prognostications of what we thought the

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01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,759
Speaker 2: AFC would look like versus what it actually did. Because

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01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 2: I promise you we would have all had Buffalo, we

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01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 2: would all had Baltimore in the playoffs. We'd have all

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01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,799
Speaker 2: had had Kansas City in the playoffs. And my hunches,

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01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 2: I know, I think I had Cincinnati in it too.

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01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 3: I had.

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Speaker 4: Of the teams that are currently in the playoffs, I

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01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 4: had Houston, Buffalo, and Denver. Correct, I was incorrect with

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01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 4: Kansas City as of now Baltimore, though Baltimore could still be.

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Speaker 2: A good Cleveland and Cincinnati. All right, that was you.

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01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 2: What did I have? Corporate bo just ignored the Browns

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01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 2: all together, which was hurtful in retrospect, unnecessary, unwarranted. Have

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01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 2: won six games in two years, Bud, I believe I'm.

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01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 4: Pretty sure we got. We did have Miles as the

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01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 4: defensive player of the year. We did have Sweassinger as

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01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 4: the as the off defensive rookie of the year.

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01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 2: We look pretty good there. Well, who were my playoff teams?

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01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: You had.

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Speaker 4: We all had the same division win winners, Casey, Baltimore, Houston, Buffalo,

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01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 4: and then you also had the Chargers, Denver, and Cincinnati,

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01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 4: so you you were one better give a also at

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01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 4: who was a lot of belief Buffalo? I had seven

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01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 4: right now you have four of the seven.

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01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,799
Speaker 2: Gibb What did you have? Who who was Gibbies playoffs

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01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 2: in the a f C.

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01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 4: Gibbey had Kansasity, Baltimore, Houston, Buffalo. He had the same

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01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 4: as me, Cleveland, Denver, Sincy. Now Gibbey does have We

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01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:26,919
Speaker 4: had a category called playoff surprise, and Gibbey had New England.

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01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 2: You had Jacksonville, and I had Chicago. That's that's pretty

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01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 2: good there.

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01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:44,839
Speaker 4: Now the Busts. I had Minnesota, you had Washington. Gibbey

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01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 4: had the Bears.

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01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 3: I was determined I needed to see something.

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01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 4: Gibbey though, hold on, boy, did you hold on? Hot seat?

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01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 4: Hot seat? Hot seat? Gibbe had the first guy fired Callahan.

1641
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 2: Wow, good job. And then me and you had both

1642
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 2: had Zach Taylor. No, he's well, very well, could be

1643
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 2: first pick in the draft. We all had New Orleans. Okay, well,

1644
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:23,560
Speaker 2: that's not terrible. Coach of the Year. I don't know

1645
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 2: what to make of this Coach of the Year. Is

1646
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 2: there another Johnson? It's Chicago other than him, that's a

1647
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 2: pretty unbrand thing. If you have Ben Johnson is the

1648
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 2: coach of the year and Chicago is the bust, that's

1649
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 2: give me. I had McDermott as coach of the year.

1650
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 2: You had la Flor. That's unbelievable.

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01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 3: I'll get one out of the two.

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01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: That's great.

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01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 4: That's what happens when I played Craps believable. Offensive rookie

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01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 4: of the year. I had Hampton, you had Genty. He

1655
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 4: had Travian Offensive Rookie of the Year. That's an interesting one.

1656
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,719
Speaker 4: You had Genty, he had I had a Marion Hampton

1657
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 4: no chance. He had Genty, no chance, And you had Travon.

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01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, you had Travion Jillen Ones.

1659
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 2: That has a chance. But I don't think so. Who

1660
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 2: is the offensive rookie of the year right now?

1661
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 3: It would have been a book. If he don't get hurt.

1662
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 2: Their whole fell off a cliff. Tyler had a chance.

1663
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren, Boy, that's a good question. I wonder who that.

1664
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: Let me just look it up.

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01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 4: I think Tyler Warren's got a chance. And the I'm

1666
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 4: gonna throw something else at you. You know he's got

1667
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 4: a chance.

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01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna say because you were all about him.

1669
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 2: I am all about him.

1670
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 4: Actually ran into you know, their tight ends coaches Gibbe

1671
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 4: for the Bears, Jim Drew.

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01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 2: So he talked to Jim dre and we actually talked

1673
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 2: a little.

1674
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 4: Colston Loveland McMillan, tat McMillan, I think, or what about

1675
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 4: what Tyler Warren's numbers?

1676
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 2: Those would be the two and then I'm gonna throw

1677
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 2: out right now, Travion Travion a Mecca. Yeah, who's the favorite?

1678
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 2: Travion Travion a Mecca McMillan. Warren is the fourth choice

1679
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 2: darts the darts, the fourth warns the fifth. All right,

1680
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a sleeper, be a sleeper right now.

1681
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 2: That just sucks because if Quid Sean, if we could

1682
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 2: have still run it, he was on a path to

1683
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 2: be in it, to be in the mix.

1684
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 4: And fan, it's been good to I'm gonna give you

1685
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 4: a dark horse. You're ready for it right now? I

1686
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 4: am Tyler Shuck. And here's why he's just beaten the

1687
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 4: Bucks and the Panthers, and basically like playoff style games

1688
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 4: the last two weeks, here's who they've got the last

1689
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 4: three games, Like what if?

1690
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 2: What if?

1691
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 4: He ends up winning five in a row. Ye, which

1692
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 4: is possible. I'm pretty sure they have the Jets this week.

1693
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 2: All Internet, come on, help help me. You're looking for

1694
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 2: Saints Saints schedule? Yeah, I'm still loading. Oh here we

1695
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 2: go home, Jets at Titans, at Falcons at Dirty Birds. Yeah.

1696
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 2: It just will anybody notice? And if Travion's playing high

1697
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 2: leverage games for England and playing, well, yeah, that'll be hard.

1698
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1699
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 2: The Bucks falling off a cliff throwing the football the

1700
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 2: second half of the year changed a lot of the

1701
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 2: perception of the first half of the season to what

1702
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: it ended up being. Just shows you how long the

1703
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 2: NFL season is.

1704
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:30,799
Speaker 4: So long. I mean, you were handing out m vps

1705
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 4: and now it's now the in Tampa they're saying we

1706
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 4: should we even keep him?

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01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 7: Oh?

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01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, yeah it's Andy. They're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: decide like we were there a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what happens to a hard part.

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Speaker 4: With quarterbacks who are at a certain level but maybe

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Speaker 4: not at another level.

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Speaker 2: Yes, are they a franchise quarterback to you? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Now that question is have you rather been the Andy

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Speaker 4: Dalton Bengals winning divisions? Not really doing anything in the

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Speaker 4: playoffs or would you you say, let's go behind another

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Speaker 4: what's the replacement?

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Speaker 2: the AFC playoff picture at the moment, it's never been

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Speaker 2: this wide open the NFC side of things. If the

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01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 2: playoffs started this week with three weeks to go. The

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Speaker 2: Rams are the one seed. They will play Seattle on Thursday.

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01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 2: So if you're curious the difference between those two teams

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01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: have the exact same record. It's a difference of being

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01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 2: the one seed or the five. So it's a difference

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Speaker 2: of a buy and home field throughout or going on

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01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 2: the road in week one, which is what would have

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01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 2: to happen if you are the five. So the two

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01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 2: and the seven right now is Chicago against green Bay.

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01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,560
Speaker 2: Those two teams, ironically enough play this weekend. Philly and

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01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 2: San Francisco is the three six, even though San Francisco

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01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 2: has been a record that game would be in Philadelphia

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01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 2: as Philly is the division winner. Tampa Bay currently is

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01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 2: the four, Seattle is the five, Detroit, Carolina and Dallas

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01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,799
Speaker 2: on the outside looking in. Hard to imagine any scenario

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01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 2: with Dallas. Carolina still could get back in the mix.

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01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 2: They do play Tampa Bay twice over the last three

1752
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 2: they win those two games they're in they're in UH

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01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 2: and then Detroit at eight and six on life support

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01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 2: at the moment, How did we have the NFC? NFC

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01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 2: we had, all right?

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01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 4: I had Niners, Green Bay, Tampa, Philly Rams, Detroit Washington.

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Speaker 2: So the only one you didn't have that it is

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01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 2: currently out right now is Washington and Detroit.

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 4: So you had five Seattle, I didn't have Seattle, and

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Speaker 4: I didn't have I had them as a playoff surprise below,

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01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:50,799
Speaker 4: but didn't have Chicago. In Okay, you have Niners, Green Bay, Tampa, Philly, Rams, Detroit, Chicago.

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Speaker 2: You have six.

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01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 4: So I got six of the six of this as

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01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 4: of now and potentially seven. Yeah, because Seattle's one you

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01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 4: don't have. I don't give a had Rams, green Bay, Tampa, Philly, Washington, Detroit, Seattle.

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01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,879
Speaker 2: So Gibbey's got five currently you and Gibbe aligned.

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01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 4: So I was just doing this little, quick, little exercise

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01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,799
Speaker 4: on the NFC side teams that I think could reasonably

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01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 4: win their conference and the Super Bowl, Rams, Green Bay, Philly, Niners,

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01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 4: Detroit even though they're not in. Even though I'm just saying,

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01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 4: like teams that I would have some belief you.

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01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 2: Could see it. So Seattle to hang up is darnold right,

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01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 2: I have no belief.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Tampa can do it or Carolina, no, whoever,

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01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 4: cha Seattle and Chicago have question marks. Like I was

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Speaker 4: very impressed with Chicago from what I see, but the

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01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:45,440
Speaker 4: question marks.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm with you. I I would in what you

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01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 2: just did, I would say, could I see the Rams,

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Speaker 2: Green Bay, Philly, and San Francisco all winning it? Yes,

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01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 2: Detroit just because I think their ceiling is still pretty high, right,

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01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 2: so I don't have a problem with that. But then yeah,

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01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 2: those four for sure.

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Speaker 4: AFC, I've got, I've got, and it's it's different because

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's somebody that's so head and shoulders.

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01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 4: So I basically have everybody but Pittsburgh. If you're Detroit.

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01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 2: Can't get there with Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: You need Green Bay to win on Saturday Night. Because

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Speaker 3: green Bay beat the Lions in both I'm sorry, Yeah,

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01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 3: green Bay beat Detroit in both meetings this year.

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01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so they need to their concerned needs to be Chicago.

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01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 3: And they would. So the Lions schedule is home for

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01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 3: pittspuke on the road in Minnesota on Christmas, home for Detroit.

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01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 2: That's Chicago's I'm sorry that, I'm sorry Detroit. No, So

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01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 2: Detroit is Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: Home Chicago and eighteen Oh okay, okay, who is in

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01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 4: between Pittsburgh this Minnesota Christmas and then at Chicago.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're probably going to go ten that's what

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01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 2: they need and get in and not get in Detroit. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Who are Chicago's three games and they already have ten

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01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 2: wins stand by. Really, Chicago just needs to win one

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01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 2: win a game. Yeah, all right, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Bears schedule home for the Packers Saturday night. Okay, Bears

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01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 3: at forty nine Ers, Oh cheez, Okay, Bears home for

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01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 3: the Lions.

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01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 2: Bears could lose out.

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01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Lions could you know, especially the Bears

1809
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 3: wide receiver corps. Yeah, they took they took a little beating.

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01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 2: The Bears could absolutely lose out, go ten and seven

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01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 2: to get right back in, and Detroit could easily go

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01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 2: ten and six and get in win two out of

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01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 2: their three. Yep. Wow, I mean that that would be

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01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,680
Speaker 2: a massive That is in Chicago, That is Green Bay

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01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:59,599
Speaker 2: in Chicago, Saturday, Saturday night. That's as big a game

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01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 2: as the Bear have had in a long time.

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Speaker 3: How about that? I mean, you know, the Bears Packers

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Speaker 3: is Saturday night on Fox.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Bears Niners in San Francisco is Sunday night the following week. Wow, Primetime,

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Speaker 3: let's see what you got?

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Speaker 2: Jeez, this is I mean it, it'd be fun to

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Speaker 2: be in the middle of it. But there are some

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01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 2: amazing races here, playoff division races here. In the last

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks, there's some massive games still out there,

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