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Speaker 3: in Frisco, Texas and the SWBC Studios. It is Week
Speaker 3: seventeen of the NFL season, the Dallas Cowboys facing the
Speaker 3: Detroit Lions coming up on Saturday. We've got Isaiah Standback,
Speaker 3: John Machoda back in the building to day.
Speaker 2: Mister Nick Harris, Yeah, barely back in the building, but
Speaker 2: you got him here. My flight landed at eight eighteen,
Speaker 2: but I am here nine am ready to go. Let's
Speaker 2: Jennie Capper.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like that Black Rifle this morning too.
Speaker 4: I haven't.
Speaker 2: I haven't. I'm just ready to go.
Speaker 4: Oh you just that excited to talk about this. I'm
Speaker 4: going to hit.
Speaker 2: Black Rifle after though, for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice felt left out yesterday. I getting better at.
Speaker 3: This Chris being in the back of Kyle Yeoman's glad
Speaker 3: you're with us, all right, Nick, we haven't heard your
Speaker 3: thoughts on the Miami lost twenty two twenty yet you
Speaker 3: were there.
Speaker 4: What happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if we remember back to last week,
Speaker 2: I would not. I was not expecting this defense to
Speaker 2: play as well as it did on Sunday in Miami.
Speaker 2: I think that was probably the biggest surprise. Honestly, the
Speaker 2: run defense was great. It was pretty pretty damn good,
Speaker 2: limiting mostered in a chance to the yardage that they had.
Speaker 2: If you told me going in that that was going
Speaker 2: to be the case, you were only going to limit
Speaker 2: that Dolphins offense to one touchdown, You're going to force
Speaker 2: them into some long field goal situations with a kicker
Speaker 2: that had missed seven straight fifty plus yard field goals
Speaker 2: going into that game. That always told you, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: this this Cowboys team that they figured this out. But
Speaker 2: that second and third quarter man not being able to
Speaker 2: get anything going offensively. Obviously, the fumble on the goal
Speaker 2: line from Hunter Lipkey, it's very tough, very tough stuff
Speaker 2: to talk about it. Unfortunately, let's pull the band aid.
Speaker 2: This is you know, I think I think there's probably
Speaker 2: half half blame on both sides between Dak and Lipkey.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a that's a that's a handoff that
Speaker 2: you got to practice throughout the week, and that they
Speaker 2: haven't had that practice throughout the year. Obviously, he had
Speaker 2: only had six touches coming into the game. Go ahead,
Speaker 2: go ahead, you touch on it.
Speaker 5: So going back, how long do you think hunter Lypkey
Speaker 5: has been playing the running back slash fullback position in
Speaker 5: his whole life? Okay, yeah, so there's certain just mechanics
Speaker 5: operation for per se that just just happened every single time,
Speaker 5: meaning like arm up, armed down with a little clamping motion, right, Okay.
Speaker 5: He had no bottom arm. The bottom arm was was
Speaker 5: was non existent.
Speaker 2: We all came high.
Speaker 6: We talked about it in the in one of our
Speaker 6: breaks on yesterday's show about the mesh of you know
Speaker 6: when you do like the read option, like the polling.
Speaker 6: I wonder if he thought that Dak was gonna pull.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a I just I just don't understand why
Speaker 2: they would pull.
Speaker 4: Right there, there's no pull.
Speaker 5: It's just it was bad mechanics. He didn't have a
Speaker 5: bottom arm, there was no bottom bar. It was more
Speaker 5: of like was like this, so Dak put the ball
Speaker 5: rather high low. It doesn't matter, like that's what the
Speaker 5: whole personal base. There's no there's no base, there's no
Speaker 5: bottom shelf, right, so the ball is gonna come straight out.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter who you are. So that's just he
Speaker 4: was anxious. That's what that's what comes out to.
Speaker 5: He was anxious, and he lost his mechanics and unfortunately
Speaker 5: and the Cowboys had to pay for.
Speaker 2: It four touches on the first drive though, like whenever
Speaker 2: he lined up with the goal line, I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, here it is.
Speaker 5: This is the top.
Speaker 2: Of the mountain. And then we just came crashing down
Speaker 2: the boulder, came down the mountain and hit me in
Speaker 2: the jones boler so bad.
Speaker 4: But Nick's running down the mountain.
Speaker 2: It's just gonna clamp me. But yeah, ten point swing
Speaker 2: right out of the gates. I mean when that happened,
Speaker 2: and they came down and kicked the field goal, and
Speaker 2: they had two opportunities to have some big shots that
Speaker 2: Tyreek dropped the one that would have been a ninety
Speaker 2: three yard touchdown, and then Waddle came back with a
Speaker 2: fifty yarder. I was just worried that that defense was
Speaker 2: gonna get killed over the top ball game, and then
Speaker 2: that didn't happen. The defense held up, and obviously I
Speaker 2: have to give credit to that unit for being able
Speaker 2: to do that against an offense like that. But man,
Speaker 2: the offense, they're gonna have to come to play in
Speaker 2: all four quarters. The third quarter has been the quarter
Speaker 2: that has killed in the most this season, but it
Speaker 2: was stacked with the second quarter this season or this
Speaker 2: past week. So we'll see against Detroit obviously a really
Speaker 2: good opportunity to bounce back. We'll dive into it today,
Speaker 2: going back to going back home against a quality NFC opponent.
Speaker 2: I think there's still time to write this shit before
Speaker 2: the playoffs start. But man, the way Tampa Bay played
Speaker 2: this past weekend, this wildcard round isn't becoming such an
Speaker 2: afterthought anymore. So they've stacked four wins in a row.
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be probably what we look at
Speaker 2: here in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 6: But what do you think the key is to on
Speaker 6: the teams you've been on when to play well coming
Speaker 6: out of halftime. Is there anything that you've noticed, because
Speaker 6: you know on the outside there's a lot of the play,
Speaker 6: you know, halftime speech and.
Speaker 4: Halftime all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 5: Honest with you, man, there's there's substantially more talk on
Speaker 5: outside looking in than there ever is on the inside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you only got eight minutes in there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this quick, Isaiah's literally.
Speaker 3: You walk in the job, you walk in the locker room,
Speaker 3: you throw your helmet in your locker for a hot second,
Speaker 3: you go use the bathroom, you sit down, you grab
Speaker 3: a drink.
Speaker 5: Coach runs in there. Literally, the whole coaching staff runs
Speaker 5: into the locker room. They get in front of the
Speaker 5: border like all right, boys, listen up, listen up, all right,
Speaker 5: this was going on, boom boom, and they hit on
Speaker 5: a couple points. And then it's like they have to
Speaker 5: run out and get back to the booth like it's
Speaker 5: literally no time. So I mean, yeah, you addressed up
Speaker 5: the key points, but it's not like you're sitting there
Speaker 5: having a whole team meeting, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 5: for a half hour like this not that much time.
Speaker 4: They're gonna come down.
Speaker 5: They're going to tell you exactly what's been going on,
Speaker 5: all right, the changes that need to happen really really quick.
Speaker 5: And then like it's gone, and then you come out
Speaker 5: and you try to execute better. Like that's there's there's more,
Speaker 5: substantially more talk. On the outside looking in, it's just
Speaker 5: an insight. You're just you're playing, man, you're playing. You recognize, Hey,
Speaker 5: things aren't going our way. We've got to make some changes.
Speaker 5: But it's not like a come to Jesus meeting where
Speaker 5: you have to you know, everybody's sitting there kumbaya and
Speaker 5: at halftime.
Speaker 2: Would it be comparable to would it? Would it be
Speaker 2: comparable to like in between drives having conversations when your
Speaker 2: coaches on the sideline. I mean it's the same thing.
Speaker 4: Basically, there's there's more time in the game that's on
Speaker 4: the drive.
Speaker 5: There's more, there's more information that's conveyed in between drives,
Speaker 5: and there areas at haveltime.
Speaker 6: I do think it's funny because I think on the
Speaker 6: outside you look at it as it's like the movies.
Speaker 6: You know, it's like any given Sunday, it's like you're
Speaker 6: in picturing almost like Mike McCarthy's the only one talking
Speaker 6: to the entire team the Niners. I want to say
Speaker 6: it was last season. I think it was last season
Speaker 6: during preseason game, they let one of our writers at
Speaker 6: the athletic go in the locker room. Now the writer
Speaker 6: can only write about certain things. But to your point,
Speaker 6: it was a lot about how people are broken off
Speaker 6: into groups. It's not like this one big like message
Speaker 6: rah rah, you know, speech in the middle of the
Speaker 6: locker room type thing like I think that maybe you
Speaker 6: see in the TV shows and movies.
Speaker 3: Everybody take a knee right right, and like you get
Speaker 3: the white board and then there's like a soft music underline.
Speaker 4: Literally, the coaches.
Speaker 6: Are the same for you in college too, same deal
Speaker 6: where you break off like that or because it's a
Speaker 6: longer halftime. It's the reason I ask.
Speaker 4: I feel like college was more deliberate in terms of
Speaker 4: the team.
Speaker 5: Okay, but then you're like the the OC comes, you know,
Speaker 5: or your decordinator takes the team. They mentioned a couple
Speaker 5: of things that you need to hit on, like okay,
Speaker 5: get what your position groups, and like your position coach
Speaker 5: comes over to your lockers like all right, look, this
Speaker 5: is what we're looking at. This is what we need
Speaker 5: to do, and then you're gone. But like in NFL,
Speaker 5: it's quick. Literally by the time you come away from
Speaker 5: the dog on urinal and come back to your locker.
Speaker 5: You can see the coaching staff literally running in like
Speaker 5: they're running again. They're like okay, okay, you know, like
Speaker 5: hurry up, and everybody knows they only have a hot
Speaker 5: second to get across their message, so they get everybody's
Speaker 5: tension real quick and they're like okay. They write their
Speaker 5: little quick notes on a board, they tell everybody what'll
Speaker 5: do it, and they're like all right. Then they're running
Speaker 5: back out the door, trying to get back up to
Speaker 5: the dog on booth.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you've got you've got moments with your position coach,
Speaker 3: and a lot of times those position coach coaches are
Speaker 3: on the sideline, so you'll probably get a word with
Speaker 3: them as you're on your way in or on your
Speaker 3: way out, whenever you're going in the locker room. But
Speaker 3: then you've got the coordinators and some of those other
Speaker 3: coaches that see it from a different angle than you do,
Speaker 3: and they have a different perspective, and so maybe that's
Speaker 3: the one time you get the chance to hear that
Speaker 3: different perspective. It's interesting to think about because teams, there
Speaker 3: are first half and second half teams in any level
Speaker 3: of the sport, and so far the Cowboys, at least
Speaker 3: in terms of the first quarter, have been great. In
Speaker 3: terms of the fourth quarter, for the most part, have
Speaker 3: been pretty darn good. Third quarter has been where they've
Speaker 3: been really missing that same level of emphasis.
Speaker 4: I think that just comes from a coach's adjustments.
Speaker 5: Some coaches are better at not only gaining attaining knowledge
Speaker 5: in that first half, but then being able to quickly
Speaker 5: convey that information and those changes that need to take
Speaker 5: place to your team, and your team being able to
Speaker 5: make those alterations and execute them on the field in
Speaker 5: the second half. I think that's the more important aspect.
Speaker 5: And that's not to say that you know what it
Speaker 5: is to say some coaches are better communicators than others,
Speaker 5: and then the team has to receive and actually go
Speaker 5: out there and apply it. Now, there's different levels of changes,
Speaker 5: right there's hey, you know, maybe the coach in the
Speaker 5: booth saw something that everybody else on the field didn't see.
Speaker 5: It's like, hey, you know, makesure shorten you're split down
Speaker 5: on this, or make sure that you don't overset, you know,
Speaker 5: if you're tackled it. Just little cues and pointers here
Speaker 5: and there that might that might pay huge dividends in
Speaker 5: that second half. But it's not an overtaking. It's not
Speaker 5: a hey, we're gonna we're going to change everything that
Speaker 5: we're doing now. It's just that's not what it is.
Speaker 6: Speaking of some changes, I just want to throw this
Speaker 6: out there, because we didn't talk about yesterday to you guys.
Speaker 6: I really liked when they won the toss, they took
Speaker 6: the ball, just as it kind of change up. What
Speaker 6: did you guys think of that?
Speaker 4: I think you have. Yeah, I gotta get out. I
Speaker 4: think it's a situational basis, and.
Speaker 6: I'm doing it against the Niners two. I don't think
Speaker 6: they've had the ball once to start the game any
Speaker 6: of those three last three nine Ers games. There's just
Speaker 6: something about getting a lead with this particular team. I'm
Speaker 6: not saying, like Mike McCarthy loves the double double, the
Speaker 6: going into half scoring, having the ball coming out, the
Speaker 6: percentage you winning that game are through the roof. I
Speaker 6: get that, But for certain teams, I think you have
Speaker 6: to change things up. So when they won the toss
Speaker 6: and they took it, I really like that. Now, of
Speaker 6: course they didn't score, but the way that they went
Speaker 6: down the field like that, I liked it. But I
Speaker 6: wanted to hear what you guys had to say.
Speaker 3: Well, if you have Lipkey hold onto the ball and
Speaker 3: he's into the in zone, and let's say the Dolphins
Speaker 3: and the next Cowboys drive end up the exact same
Speaker 3: as it would have been anyway as a field goal,
Speaker 3: and then see Lamb touchdown, you're up fourteen to three.
Speaker 3: I think, completely different ballgame at fourteen to three, and
Speaker 3: I think you're And of course it's a butterfly effect.
Speaker 3: If Flipkey scores, then you don't know what happens after
Speaker 3: that because it's a different ballgame. But let's say that
Speaker 3: that it does stay the same and he just holds
Speaker 3: on and crosses the goal line, you're up fourteen to
Speaker 3: three on the road. I think this team with an
Speaker 3: eleven point lead is a completely different ball club. So
Speaker 3: I agree with you in this situation. And I think
Speaker 3: in a situation against like per Se forty nine ers, yes,
Speaker 3: I would take it. Against San Francisco Philadelphia, I think
Speaker 3: I would rather my defense get out there and get
Speaker 3: a stop first.
Speaker 4: It's just kind of a situational basis.
Speaker 3: But I liked it in this game because you thought
Speaker 3: you were gonna have to go down and score points
Speaker 3: and control time of possession.
Speaker 4: You did so you just turned it over at the
Speaker 4: goal line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I agree. News and Notes, Yeah, let's
Speaker 2: do it. Practice report coming out of yesterday. So it's
Speaker 2: a short week. Reminder of the game is on Saturday
Speaker 2: night this week, so yesterday was treated as a quote
Speaker 2: unquote Wednesday here in the building. We could dive into
Speaker 2: some injury things here. Jonathan Hankins, we spoke to him
Speaker 2: in the locker room last week. Y'all may have touched
Speaker 2: on this yesterday when Jerry Jones spoke on the fan,
Speaker 2: but there didn't seem to be as much optimism yesterday
Speaker 2: morning as Hankins had last week. As far as playing
Speaker 2: against Detroit, he was listed as it did not practice
Speaker 2: with his knee slash ankle injury. We'll see as that
Speaker 2: as the week goes on where he's at with that.
Speaker 2: Tyron Smith once again did not practice with his back
Speaker 2: injury that kept him out of the game on Sunday
Speaker 2: against Miami and then going through some more injury stuff.
Speaker 2: Stefan Gilmour he told me in the locker om matter
Speaker 2: for the game that he suffered a rib injury during
Speaker 2: the game. It looked pretty scary whenever it happened initially,
Speaker 2: just because he was kind of writhing in pain, threw
Speaker 2: his helmet off really quick, but he was back two
Speaker 2: plays later on the field. He was on the injury report,
Speaker 2: but it was for rest reasons. The rib is not
Speaker 2: on here, So that's that's a good sign as far
Speaker 2: as him going forward this week. And then it's really
Speaker 2: quick to touch on some other ones. Rego Daddle ankle limited,
Speaker 2: Brandon Cook's rest limited as well, DeMarcus Lawrence with rest,
Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis with rest, Hunter Luke has a thigh injury.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe that had something to do. You know,
Speaker 2: he was limited, and Molly Cooker with his ankle injury
Speaker 2: limited as well. Okay, so and no major concerns for
Speaker 2: the Lions either. Brought right backup tight end hip injury.
Speaker 2: He was the only one that did not practice yesterday.
Speaker 3: So for the most part, whenever you're looking up and
Speaker 3: down the roster, it's about the same as what it
Speaker 3: was last week, which is, I mean not one would
Speaker 3: that's great, but Tyron Smith questionable, Hankin's probably doubtful, And
Speaker 3: that's what you've got going on to injury wise, right yeah,
Speaker 3: do you think there's a better shot to see Tyron
Speaker 3: this week? Do you where would your confidence level meeter be?
Speaker 2: I right now, I think he plays on Saturday. I mean,
Speaker 2: he hasn't practiced first day of the week at all
Speaker 2: this season. They're not going to practice in the first
Speaker 2: day of the week when he's battling something. So I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm not concerned yet about Tyron. Ask me Friday
Speaker 2: and we'll see. But as of right now, I don't.
Speaker 2: I think there's a little bit more concern with Hankins,
Speaker 2: if you're tsking me specifically.
Speaker 6: But so, Tyron was walking around the locker room yesterday
Speaker 6: and so for two things why that stood out to me.
Speaker 6: One he was moving better than he was last week
Speaker 6: during the week, and two is that when Tyron I'm
Speaker 6: not saying this is a fact, but there's oftentimes I
Speaker 6: would see Tyron not being in the locker room at
Speaker 6: off he didn't think he was going to play. Yeah,
Speaker 6: they're just the fact that he walked, he walked through there,
Speaker 6: was at his locker for a little bit. Normally he
Speaker 6: would you just wouldn't even see him in there. So
Speaker 6: I thought that was a pretty positive sign. Again, that's
Speaker 6: just some reading between the lines. But yeah, I would
Speaker 6: agree with you. I think he plays in this.
Speaker 2: Of course the one day I missed Tyron Smith.
Speaker 6: Of course, dude, I will say, though I've been covering
Speaker 6: this team since twenty eleven, if you were to miss
Speaker 6: a day, yesterday was the day. Yeah, and like there
Speaker 6: was just nothing going on there. It's it was the
Speaker 6: least productive locker room day of any time any my
Speaker 6: entire time covering the Cowboys there. So yeah, including those
Speaker 6: times when you go in there after a season ending loss,
Speaker 6: you know for the locker room they get out pretty bad. Yeah,
Speaker 6: but no, this was there was just not a lot
Speaker 6: of guys there. So that means that today will be
Speaker 6: very busy. Everybody will be talking the word.
Speaker 3: There's nothing to read into there, right with what based
Speaker 3: off of two straight losses.
Speaker 6: No, it's because the way they flipped this practice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to put it out there because everybody
Speaker 3: at home is probably like said, like, no locker.
Speaker 2: Room probably, No, it's worse than a season ending loss.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, they flipped the they flipped these practice schedules.
Speaker 6: So that's why it's like that. So the locker room
Speaker 6: available at least early in the morning when like guys
Speaker 6: are either just getting there or all the guys you
Speaker 6: don't see everybody at their locker because they don't have
Speaker 6: to go there. So that's the reason. It's not because
Speaker 6: of this loss or anything like that, because I thought
Speaker 6: this loss after the game too, remind me a lot
Speaker 6: of the Philadelphia game, where it was a loss, but
Speaker 6: I didn't get the sense that it was like, you know,
Speaker 6: after the Buffalo Niners game, We're like, we got major
Speaker 6: things that we need to fix here, and then I'll.
Speaker 2: Say this, I think there was a little bit more
Speaker 2: frustration in the locker room after this loss to any
Speaker 2: of the other four or five. It was similar to
Speaker 2: Arizona in that sense where it's like why did this happen?
Speaker 2: Like how did we not come out with the win?
Speaker 2: And little kind of like the vibe I felt.
Speaker 6: And a little bit of more officials for sure.
Speaker 2: But Micah dofinitely would stand off the record.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I could see that because there's a there's a
Speaker 3: frustration with man. They they had every opportunity and they
Speaker 3: let it slip because of the lip key fumble and
Speaker 3: plays down the stretch and things like that. Didn't get
Speaker 3: a stop at the end. From your defense, it felt
Speaker 3: like Dallas had every opportunity to win that game and
Speaker 3: they didn't, And so I could sense a little bit
Speaker 3: of frustration. But you're right from the way that they
Speaker 3: answered questions, and for what we could see from here
Speaker 3: at the Star and looking at postgame reaction, it was okay,
Speaker 3: we've we can learn from this, but we have a
Speaker 3: bit of confidence on the road in a way in
Speaker 3: a loss like this.
Speaker 4: Not a moral victory, but still something to grow upon.
Speaker 4: All right, when we come back, we're gonna preview.
Speaker 3: The Dallas defense versus the offense of the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 3: There are some weapons here, is the speed comparable.
Speaker 4: To Miami, And what do they do well with Jared
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Speaker 3: Detroit Lions eleven and four, fresh off of their first
Speaker 3: division title since nineteen ninety three, Isaia, where were you.
Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety three? Dude, that was nine years old?
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Speaker 4: Wow? Yeah yeah, So do you remember that?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah. Did you get the T shirts and everything?
Speaker 4: They didn't really do a whole lot.
Speaker 6: I got, well, I went and well after they won
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Speaker 6: They had like some of the players like Lomas Brown
Speaker 6: air cream or some of the guys at like autograph
Speaker 6: signing or something like that. So I have a picture
Speaker 6: of like I was, I don't know, like nine ten
Speaker 6: years old with Eric Kramer because it was like the
Speaker 6: biggest deal. Because I mean, to be honest with you,
Speaker 6: this isn't just a Detroit Lions thing. I mean you
Speaker 6: see what the Pistons are going through right now, the
Speaker 6: Red Wings, the Tigers, they've all had like the worst
Speaker 6: seasons like any franchise can have. So when there is
Speaker 6: any type of like what's going on right now, that's
Speaker 6: what I'm telling you. There's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 6: Lions fans a game Saturday night. I mean, like, yeah,
Speaker 6: I got four or five friends coming down because of
Speaker 6: the one. You think it's going to be better weather
Speaker 6: than it is in Detroit. It's fair New Year's Eve,
Speaker 6: It's a Saturday Marquee game, and your team is finally
Speaker 6: good and they're playing another team that's good.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we've talked about that before too.
Speaker 3: Of with AT and T Stadium being a destination stadium,
Speaker 3: absolutely fans across the NFL want to go to Arlington
Speaker 3: to see the stadium, and I don't blame them.
Speaker 4: Every time we walk in there, it's it's insane.
Speaker 6: And there is that like you look at some of
Speaker 6: the questions that their players are asked, Like I saw
Speaker 6: Jered GoFish say like at the end of his press conference,
Speaker 6: was asked about the whole, like so what do you
Speaker 6: think of the whole mystique of whole like America's teams
Speaker 6: that still lives. Yeah, you know, so that adds to
Speaker 6: it too, because when you said that, the first thing
Speaker 6: I thought of was Vegas. That's going to be a
Speaker 6: destination I see for a lot of teams going forward
Speaker 6: because they're fans. You can go to Vegas and then
Speaker 6: to your team play the Raiders. But there is something
Speaker 6: about Dallas, the Cowboys. If you've never been to Texas,
Speaker 6: most people I would think, because I know I was
Speaker 6: like this, you think of like Texas like is football,
Speaker 6: you know, So there is that part of it too.
Speaker 6: And then again, like you're thinking December, Texas, the weather
Speaker 6: probably be decent, especially if you're from Michigan.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, yeah, this weather. It's supposed to be
Speaker 4: cold on Saturday, but it's not supposed to be like Detroit,
Speaker 4: Detroit cool. That's not happening.
Speaker 3: But with all that being said, I mean, the Lions
Speaker 3: have been playing very good football and the offense of course,
Speaker 3: run by Jared Goff. You've got some weapons, David Montgomery,
Speaker 3: Jamir Gibbs at the running back position. Sam Laporta, who
Speaker 3: was a draft target for the Cowboys, went a little
Speaker 3: bit too high in the second round for Dallas to
Speaker 3: even have really a shot at him at the tight
Speaker 3: end position. He's had a phenomenal rookie season. And you've
Speaker 3: got like the trio on the outside of Jamison Williams,
Speaker 3: a Monas, Saint Brown, Josh Reynolds, Donovan People's jones that
Speaker 3: are that are out at wide receiver. It's mostly Saint
Speaker 3: Brown and Reynolds that have kind of been the guys
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 3: With with this offensive line too, and the offensive line
Speaker 3: with Pinney Suel, they don't allow a whole lot of pressure.
Speaker 2: This offensive line is really good. Yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 2: kind of the core of what they do offensively. It's
Speaker 2: why they've been able to run the ball so well
Speaker 2: with multiple guys in the backfield, even when Montgomery gets
Speaker 2: hurt or Gibbs gets hurt, they can throw other guys
Speaker 2: in there and they still have success. It's allowed Jared
Speaker 2: Goff to really settle in in the pocket and have time,
Speaker 2: and when when Jared Goff has time and we see
Speaker 2: what he did in the Rams offense, he's starting to
Speaker 2: do that here in Detroit as well. They got two
Speaker 2: guys up front. You can make the argument three guys
Speaker 2: up front that are Pro Bowl, all Pro type caliber guys,
Speaker 2: Frank Ragnow at center and Pine Seol at tackle, and
Speaker 2: then the third is Graham Glasgow at guard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this offensive line is up there in terms of
Speaker 3: what Dallas has had to go up against. But Isaiah,
Speaker 3: when you look at Jered Goff in the way that
Speaker 3: this passing game rolls, is it is it predicated off
Speaker 3: of the same type of play action, the speed, the
Speaker 3: motion that we saw.
Speaker 4: From Miami or is it completely different.
Speaker 5: No, it's more simplistic. I think they're running more base
Speaker 5: concepts offensively. But the one thing that kind of sticks
Speaker 5: out from the film that I have seen is these
Speaker 5: guys are their patient.
Speaker 4: They're super patient.
Speaker 5: They're they'll they'll try to push it down the field
Speaker 5: from time to time, but ultimately these guys are perfectly
Speaker 5: fine just throwing underneath. If you want to play soft covers,
Speaker 5: they will they will dump dump, dump, you know, quick pass, quick,
Speaker 5: pass underneath and then ren the ball like they're they're
Speaker 5: not in a hurry. You don't get the sense that
Speaker 5: they're like they feel like they have to have a
Speaker 5: big play. They are perfectly content on having long drives.
Speaker 5: And it shows really their maturity and their and their
Speaker 5: coaching staff and that and and that's that's kind of
Speaker 5: the sense that I get, like these guys are mature,
Speaker 5: They're confident in who they are, and they want to
Speaker 5: just date. They like beating you up, like they like
Speaker 5: the physical aspect of long drives, like they take they.
Speaker 4: Take joy in that. So you don't like Miami is
Speaker 4: more so like hey, they'll run it.
Speaker 5: They'll beat you up and running the ball, but ultimately
Speaker 5: they want a big play like they they love the
Speaker 5: big play this team. You don't get that sense like
Speaker 5: they're just they're just they're prying fifteen play drive cool
Speaker 5: like they they like it.
Speaker 2: It's it's similar to Dallas in that sense that they
Speaker 2: want to win the time of possession battle, and if
Speaker 2: they win the time with possession battle, then they're cons
Speaker 2: hit with whatever happens on the following on the on
Speaker 2: the back side of it. So uh, that's that's probably
Speaker 2: the biggest thing you look at when both teams are
Speaker 2: on offense on Saturday.
Speaker 3: It's impressive how much they've gotten out of their young
Speaker 3: guys too, how much of the impact they've gotten. I mean,
Speaker 3: just look at this draft class. And I know we're
Speaker 3: talking about the offensive side of the ball, but Sam Laporter,
Speaker 3: Jamier Gibbs both key cogs and their offensive attack. First
Speaker 3: round pick on Gibbs, second round pick on Laporta. They
Speaker 3: also had another first and second round pick. And they're
Speaker 3: on the defensive side. Jack Campbell as you're starting linebacker,
Speaker 3: and then you've got Brian Branch, who's your nickel at
Speaker 3: the moment, who is a second round pick, And all
Speaker 3: those guys are making impacts from this youth, which makes
Speaker 3: me think that this team has a chance to build
Speaker 3: moving forward.
Speaker 4: This is only the beginning of the.
Speaker 3: Lions window of what they're doing winning football games. And
Speaker 3: I think, John, whenever you look at what the Lions
Speaker 3: have done this year, there's an excitement around it, but
Speaker 3: there's also a bit of an experience there that Dallas
Speaker 3: could possibly take advantage of.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh there is for sure, And I will say
Speaker 6: I mean that it's very popular saying is same Old Lions.
Speaker 6: You're always just waiting for the bottom to fall out.
Speaker 6: And so you mentioned that draft, and it looks good
Speaker 6: right now, but I can tell you when it was
Speaker 6: being drafted, there was a lot of criticism of like
Speaker 6: running back, linebacker, tight end, that's we're using these premiing positions.
Speaker 6: This is an organization that thought they were going to
Speaker 6: be ahead of the curve and go Charles Rogers, Roy Williams,
Speaker 6: Mike Williams at wide receiver and put all these guys
Speaker 6: around Joey Harrington and it was a huge disaster. I
Speaker 6: mean it led to that all and sixteen season that
Speaker 6: they had. And so to see them actually have success
Speaker 6: doing this, it makes you feel like, oh, you know,
Speaker 6: something's different here. This isn't the same old Lions. There,
Speaker 6: I will say, them building through the offensive line, having
Speaker 6: those high draft picks. They're just things about the way
Speaker 6: this team's built that remind me a little bit of
Speaker 6: the twenty sixteen Cowboys, where Dak was NFL Rookie of
Speaker 6: the Year, but Dak wasn't asked to do what he's
Speaker 6: being asked right now, like Jared Goff certainly not a rookie,
Speaker 6: but he's also not being asked to just win these games.
Speaker 6: It's like, hey, we got a good offensive line, we
Speaker 6: got a good running game, you got a really good
Speaker 6: receiver you can count on an I'm ran Saint Brown.
Speaker 6: And so the next step is them trying to get
Speaker 6: Jamison Williams to take you know, play like a first
Speaker 6: round pick. He has got thirteen targets the last two games,
Speaker 6: but it's been like a slow bill. It just doesn't
Speaker 6: seem like him and Golf had been on the same
Speaker 6: page for a while, and so maybe they're getting there,
Speaker 6: but no, it is certainly a young team that you
Speaker 6: know a lot of people are excited about, for sure.
Speaker 6: But to Isaiah's point from earlier in the year, though,
Speaker 6: a lot of really disappointed people that about the whole
Speaker 6: not making a move of the deadline, especially when you
Speaker 6: saw what Chase Young, what you had to give up
Speaker 6: to Chase Young in San Francisco, because you had Chase
Speaker 6: Young to this it takes everything to doing next, you know,
Speaker 6: Tiers so kind of like the Cowboys, they didn't make
Speaker 6: any real big moves that like shake things up during
Speaker 6: the deadline with a lot of people are like, let's go,
Speaker 6: let's go for it right time, four the move, and
Speaker 6: maybe to your point, I think they didn't because they
Speaker 6: do think this is just.
Speaker 3: This is the beginning of the window. And I mean
Speaker 3: they've got three you mentioned high draft picks on that
Speaker 3: offensive line that has been very, very good this year.
Speaker 3: You got three first rounders and two second or two
Speaker 3: third rounders.
Speaker 4: That's it. I mean, everybody is a top one hundred
Speaker 4: pick on their offensive line. That's what they've got.
Speaker 3: And then they've got some guys behind them that could
Speaker 3: kind of fill in where it need be. Just kind
Speaker 3: of pieces like that. So if they continue to stay healthy,
Speaker 3: their offensive line is dangerous and that's gonna be something
Speaker 3: that's going to challenge Dan Quinn in company. But when
Speaker 3: you look at this defense from the Cowboys side of
Speaker 3: things and where they're banged up, Nick, do you have
Speaker 3: any specific spot where Dallas is.
Speaker 4: Going to have to bow up against this Lion's offense.
Speaker 2: I mean, even though the run defense was really strong
Speaker 2: this past week against Miami, it's another two headed monster
Speaker 2: that you have to go up against. So yeah, it's
Speaker 2: that defensive interior once again, especially when you factor in
Speaker 2: the matchup that Mauzi and Neville Gallimore will have this week.
Speaker 2: Compared to last week against a reserve and Lester Cotton,
Speaker 2: and both of those guys were able to win some
Speaker 2: reps against him and kind of force things to be
Speaker 2: a little bit of ray in the middle. Now you're
Speaker 2: going up against an all pro center, all Pro caliber center,
Speaker 2: and it's only going to be more difficult. You got
Speaker 2: two different style of backs. I think that's also something
Speaker 2: a little bit different from Miami. You got Montgomery who's
Speaker 2: going to be the thumper. He's going to come in
Speaker 2: right down the middle of the defensive line and make
Speaker 2: things difficult. And then Jamier Gibbs, he's going to be
Speaker 2: the outside tackles guy, and he's going to make your
Speaker 2: life hell in the receiving game as well. So it's
Speaker 2: a multiple game that they run out of the backfield.
Speaker 2: And that's what I worry about, is this defensive front
Speaker 2: can't hold up.
Speaker 3: What did you think about the interior defensive line against Miami.
Speaker 2: I thought they played well, but I think more so
Speaker 2: the running game and being able to limit that was
Speaker 2: more of an effect of DeMarcus Lawrence being able to
Speaker 2: seal off the edges. Michael Parsons did a really good
Speaker 2: job of that as well. Even when he was put
Speaker 2: back into the second level. And then I have to
Speaker 2: credit Malik Hooker as well. He's sneakily one of the
Speaker 2: better run defenders on this team, which is strange coming
Speaker 2: from the level and typically he's coming from that high
Speaker 2: safety look as well, which is also strange. But he
Speaker 2: diagnoses those things so fast and he never bites on
Speaker 2: play action. He typically knows it's it's It's quite impressive,
Speaker 2: and so he's he's been able to make a significant
Speaker 2: impact in the run game since he's been back, or
Speaker 2: I guess just the Miami game since he's been back.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, what do you think which part about the
Speaker 3: interior defensive line?
Speaker 4: Uh, service ball.
Speaker 5: I mean, they obviously took care of business in comparison
Speaker 5: to the Buffalo game. I think obviously the Buffalo game
Speaker 5: was mostly the edges that were really soft, and obviously
Speaker 5: you miss Jonathan Hankin's presence. But you know, holistically, these
Speaker 5: guys they had a relatively good game.
Speaker 4: But to your point, you know, this is gonna be
Speaker 4: a huge challenge for them.
Speaker 5: This is a Miami was really efficient, you know, stat
Speaker 5: wise coming into the game. Dallas took care of business
Speaker 5: and met the match. This team is one thing you
Speaker 5: know about them is their character is running the ball
Speaker 5: like that the that's the literally the ethos of this
Speaker 5: team is physicality. And if there's anybody outside of Buffalo
Speaker 5: and outside of San francisc that it's going to test
Speaker 5: you is it is freaking Dan Campbell. If there's any
Speaker 5: there was any personality in his league that was gonna say, hey,
Speaker 5: what we saw on film, let's see if that's true,
Speaker 5: Like make them prove it. Like this is the guy
Speaker 5: that's gonna say go downhill, downhill, downhill, and this game
Speaker 5: might be over in sixty minutes on one side of
Speaker 5: the ball or the other. You know, if coach McCarthy
Speaker 5: or Dan Campbell, I think both of them gonna try
Speaker 5: to take the air out the ball and really try
Speaker 5: to try to try to meet physicality with force, and
Speaker 5: you're gonna find out what you have.
Speaker 4: You're saying, Tony Poller is gonna get more than twelve touches.
Speaker 5: I hope, man, I freaking hope. But I think Dan
Speaker 5: Campbell's definitely gonna try to prove a point in this game.
Speaker 5: I was reading some of his comments and how excited
Speaker 5: he is about about this game and coming to town
Speaker 5: and oh yeah, and it's the Jimmy game and he's
Speaker 5: he's ready, He's ready, and this office on line is
Speaker 5: obviously they saw some they've seen some things multiple times
Speaker 5: now that they're like, all.
Speaker 4: Right, let's see. I mean, there's no different Do you
Speaker 4: think there's maybe a factor here for for Mazzie Smith.
Speaker 4: I mean we've talked.
Speaker 3: About how there have been flashes, but that's about it
Speaker 3: from Mazzi this year. I mean from Southfield, Michigan, Hope
Speaker 3: into Michigan.
Speaker 4: That's my hope. Can he have something similar happen this week?
Speaker 2: My hope that's home.
Speaker 5: No, I don't know, I don't I don't know what
Speaker 5: his trigger is. Everybody has a trigger, Yeah, every person
Speaker 5: walking this earth has a freaking trigger. And I'm hoping
Speaker 5: that his competitive bug is triggered this week, not only
Speaker 5: by Detroit coming to town, but also the fact that
Speaker 5: there's another Michigan boy on the opposing side that might
Speaker 5: just get a little bit more attention than he does
Speaker 5: Aiden Hutchinson. Yeah, I'm hopeful that that that just pushes
Speaker 5: his easy button and just turns him into the monster
Speaker 5: that we know he can be.
Speaker 4: But he just hasn't shown since he's been here.
Speaker 6: And it is funny to say that though, because I
Speaker 6: just think of being from Michigan. I'm not a Michigan
Speaker 6: football fan, but those two guys are just like the
Speaker 6: face of the turnaround to buy, like Michigan's in there
Speaker 6: the third straight college football playoff. Like those two guys
Speaker 6: right there, Hutchinson and Mazzie Smith, that like helped change
Speaker 6: everything for them.
Speaker 3: Do you think do you remember Mazi maybe being a
Speaker 3: a Lions fan. Did that ever stick out to you,
Speaker 3: like growing up or anything. I've never asked him that question. Oh,
Speaker 3: I I don't know if from back from draft process now,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 6: I've never heard him talk about anything like that. Jhonathan
Speaker 6: Haangens though last week certainly sounded like he like, this
Speaker 6: is the game he was targeting. He wanted he's from
Speaker 6: Detroit two he wants to get back for and I
Speaker 6: mean to next point. There was just a lot of
Speaker 6: stuff about how he would help out in this game
Speaker 6: so much if he could play, because he knows that
Speaker 6: they want to run the football.
Speaker 2: Oh, Mazzi's not a fan of football, remember that's yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right, Like he likes hitting people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thinking about that the other day, like
Speaker 3: that's a quote from training camp that whendn't happen.
Speaker 4: Everybody's like, oh, yeah, that's like he's a maller. And
Speaker 4: now everybody's kind of like.
Speaker 3: Thinking about that quote and it's like, oh, maybe that
Speaker 3: wasn't Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2: He was serious.
Speaker 4: He was genuine, He was totally genuine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like hidding people.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, sweet Mazzie.
Speaker 2: That when he said that, we were just like.
Speaker 4: I hope he finds it.
Speaker 3: I do, I really do. And I haven't given up
Speaker 3: on Masi yet. I still think he can be a
Speaker 3: valuable piece of the interior defensive line for a long time,
Speaker 3: become it.
Speaker 4: Just it hasn't hit yet.
Speaker 3: It hasn't hit yet, And like you said, maybe it
Speaker 3: takes a trigger, Maybe it takes a flip of the switch,
Speaker 3: and maybe that comes.
Speaker 4: This week against Detroit. All right, let's take our second break.
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Speaker 4: It's time for some national storyline.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna start out.
Speaker 4: Are we gonna start with the one that Isaiah wants?
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's anger Isaiah early in the morning.
Speaker 4: I don't want to mess up my day. All right, Well, here.
Speaker 6: We'll get through this real quick. So there's a gentleman
Speaker 6: from the Chargers by the name of Sebastian Joseph Day,
Speaker 6: a defensive tackle who probably would help a lot of
Speaker 6: teams run defense. And he was released and free to sign. Well,
Speaker 6: he was put on waivers. I don't think it. No
Speaker 6: one claimed him, so he's free to sign with any
Speaker 6: team he wanted. So it seems like that would be
Speaker 6: a potential fit for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Wasn't he a captain?
Speaker 6: He was? He was one of their captains.
Speaker 4: Ye in great leader.
Speaker 6: Then yes, and so and so he was available within
Speaker 6: the last few days and he did not sign with
Speaker 6: the Cowboys. He signed a one year deal with the
Speaker 6: San Francisco forty nine ers, of course, and so the
Speaker 6: rich get richer, and they have added a key piece,
Speaker 6: much like they did right before the trade deadline with
Speaker 6: Chase Young. So, yeah, Isaiah, what are your thoughts.
Speaker 4: How many defensive lignment have they acquired? Now, have any? No? No,
Speaker 4: let's think about it. They haven't.
Speaker 5: They acquired an entire starting defensive line as their backup
Speaker 5: defensive line.
Speaker 2: That is what I think. Go through Chase Young, Randy Gregory, Sebastian, Joseph.
Speaker 4: Day, somebody from Philly maybe.
Speaker 6: Uh oh, you're talking about Jovon Hargrave.
Speaker 4: Oh that guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking like off season, just in general, Yeah,
Speaker 2: just a general. Then yeah, there's a couple more guys
Speaker 2: in there as well.
Speaker 4: I'm pulling it up. Give me two seconds.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So they've they've acquired a starting defensive line
Speaker 5: as supplemental defensive line.
Speaker 3: Farrell or Clellan Farrell, whatever his name is, from Las Vegas,
Speaker 3: Chase Young, Javon Hargrave, Eric Armstead. That was a draft
Speaker 3: day Gregory Gregory, Sebastian Joseph Gregory.
Speaker 5: Young as your d NS Okay, and Day and Hardgrave
Speaker 5: as your d tackles.
Speaker 4: Correct, that's been acquired.
Speaker 2: I'm running for two hundred yards myself on that D line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's been acquired. That was added this year. It's over.
Speaker 4: That was a buffalo issue. Yeah added. That wasn't there
Speaker 4: on the roster last year.
Speaker 2: You know what that makes me thinking? I was thinking
Speaker 2: about this yesterday whenever it came down that he had
Speaker 2: signed with forty nine ers. I wonder if they're there's
Speaker 2: not a lot of confidence in the group that they have,
Speaker 2: or if they just they just love having rotational guys
Speaker 2: and they want as many bodies as possible up front. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't get why they need
Speaker 2: to add so many more. I don't get it. How
Speaker 2: hurt they have? How does it hurt if you have
Speaker 2: a guy like Sebastian Joseph Day that you can't put
Speaker 2: on the field in a starting situation.
Speaker 4: Isn't that a great situation?
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, but like it's that a.
Speaker 6: Great I wons out the physical style they play usually
Speaker 6: by the end of this when you get into playoffs,
Speaker 6: they are usually missing some guys because of that, you
Speaker 6: know that they allot of people like to talk about
Speaker 6: that physical style play, how it you know, how it
Speaker 6: adds up for the opponents and how bad opponents play
Speaker 6: the following week because of that. I think that they're
Speaker 6: loading up because they're like, hey, if we need somebody else.
Speaker 2: They probably are loading up. We're saying that they don't
Speaker 2: have confidence, but yeah, it's.
Speaker 5: Just I definitely don't think it's a confidence issue. I
Speaker 5: think it's more so about Hey, guess what, you're great?
Speaker 5: You great, You're great? How about I just limit you
Speaker 5: to fifteen plays a game? How great could you be?
Speaker 4: Then I wouldn't say I would not say that.
Speaker 6: I would not say that works for everyone.
Speaker 2: Though not everybody.
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of guys that elite of
Speaker 6: the elites. I think you need to leave them out there.
Speaker 5: So I agree, and Boast is not coming off the field,
Speaker 5: But when he does, there's a young and a Gregory
Speaker 5: that come in.
Speaker 6: It's nice, it does sound nice and real.
Speaker 4: It's wild. Yeah, a couple of guys like that.
Speaker 6: All is it Cleveland Cleveland? Cleveland Cleveland?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't either. I've never been able.
Speaker 6: That was a very that was a very typical Detroit
Speaker 6: Lions draft pick. When the Raiders took him where it
Speaker 6: was like the whole like I think he took him
Speaker 6: like four or something. It was real high. It was
Speaker 6: just one of those whole back away, we know what
Speaker 6: we're doing. You're just like, yeah, but you're not really
Speaker 6: the organization that is usually on the cutting edge and
Speaker 6: this stuff you're sure about it. I want to say
Speaker 6: it was it might have been John Gruden's first pick
Speaker 6: when he took over his head. It was up there
Speaker 6: because it was him and Mayak we're running that draft,
Speaker 6: and I just remember when they when they took him
Speaker 6: to everyone was just kind of that's kind of early there.
Speaker 5: I just I shook my head while I was watching
Speaker 5: that game the other night, the San Francisco versus Baltimore
Speaker 5: and when Lamar Jackson had that intentional grounding in the
Speaker 5: end zone. Who are the two guys that were chasing him?
Speaker 5: Young and Jos was it? I thought it was another guy,
Speaker 5: Boson Young.
Speaker 4: I know he was Young because he was the one
Speaker 4: they showed like running off the field. Yeah. And the ref,
Speaker 4: I mean the ref got in the way to the
Speaker 4: REFF definitely got in a way that was embarrassing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: good talk.
Speaker 6: The other one I wanted to bring up was just
Speaker 6: because we visited this couple weeks ago, but it was
Speaker 6: the whole NFC South. If the Cowboys don't win the division,
Speaker 6: likely having to go on the road to play against
Speaker 6: the NFC South. And I remember when we talked about
Speaker 6: it a couple of weeks ago that was like, Oh,
Speaker 6: I have all those teams, I think you'd most want
Speaker 6: to play the Buccaneers, and I'm starting to think that
Speaker 6: that isn't the one. And so I remember I said
Speaker 6: the one that I thought was most hairble was the Buccaneers,
Speaker 6: and that I thought the one that you wouldn't want
Speaker 6: to go to is the super Dome. But now I'm
Speaker 6: thinking the Buccaneers might be the last one of those.
Speaker 4: I might have said the same thing. I think New
Speaker 4: Orleans was the better.
Speaker 5: Was a team that I would much rather face, but
Speaker 5: not the environment that you want to go into.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's that's my case as well, And
Speaker 3: that's what it was, but now it's now I think
Speaker 3: I would rather go to the Superdome than face a
Speaker 3: red hot Buccaneers offense.
Speaker 4: This baker's been balling. You could joke about it as
Speaker 4: much as you want. He's been balling. Uh who'd you
Speaker 4: rather face, nick I?
Speaker 2: Falcons? Yeah, the Falcons, but they would they would need
Speaker 2: the Buccaneers to lose one. That Buccaneers control their own destiny.
Speaker 2: If they went out, then they're in.
Speaker 4: So isn't that nice to be an imposition?
Speaker 2: It's also not I mean the Cowboys were in the playoffs.
Speaker 4: I didn't say anything. I just did it's nice to
Speaker 4: be in that position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all the dig I saw the dig a
Speaker 2: little bit. But yeah, I the Saints would need to
Speaker 2: win out. The Falcons would need to win out, and
Speaker 2: they would hope that the Buccaneers drop one at some
Speaker 2: point or drop two.
Speaker 3: Actually, the Falcons have the Bears this week and the
Speaker 3: Niners next week, or excuse me not the Niners the
Speaker 3: Saints next week, so they could win out.
Speaker 4: Falcons could totally went out.
Speaker 3: The Buccaneers have the Saints this week and then they
Speaker 3: have the where to go Oh, the Panthers next week,
Speaker 3: so they can definitely went out too.
Speaker 2: Actually, the Buccaneers can lose to the Saints this week
Speaker 2: and still be okay. And still make the playoffs. So
Speaker 2: I guess they only really need one win to clinch
Speaker 2: the NFC South. It's looking more and more likely that
Speaker 2: that's going to be the four seed. So yeah, man,
Speaker 2: it's interesting.
Speaker 4: Love that great one.
Speaker 6: Other one was the Chiefs and their downfall. I still
Speaker 6: think they're in the mix. I still wouldn't count them out.
Speaker 6: And you guys feel like they're done.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not, not as long as he's quarterback and
Speaker 2: young and healthy and yeah, with that coach, with that coach,
Speaker 2: it's they need a receiver so bad, they need like
Speaker 2: five receivers, actually so bad.
Speaker 3: Even their safety blanket that has been Travis Kelcey, and
Speaker 3: of people want to make the joke about Travis Kelcey
Speaker 3: and it's Taylor Swift.
Speaker 4: No, it's it's the fact that this is year ten
Speaker 4: in the league.
Speaker 3: And he's played a physical brand of football forever and
Speaker 3: so at some point he's going to see a bit
Speaker 3: of regression and bad.
Speaker 4: He said, what, he doesn't have a supporting cast. He
Speaker 4: has zero around him.
Speaker 3: Zero, Like it's not even like a supporting cast. It's
Speaker 3: like if I would have showed up today and put
Speaker 3: on the mic and none of you guys would have
Speaker 3: showed up. That would have been the worst show of
Speaker 3: all time because I can't do it all but time.
Speaker 5: I think that's another team that historically has not been
Speaker 5: aggressive in off season. I think that's going to change
Speaker 5: for them this year.
Speaker 2: I think, well, I think they I think they move
Speaker 2: up to get a receiver in the first round, and
Speaker 2: I think they might even go try to pull a
Speaker 2: receiver from somewhere, like honestly, like a Michael gallup in Casey.
Speaker 2: Who knows like that, that's hype Michael g type receiver
Speaker 2: in Casey. That would be fun.
Speaker 6: So you guys don't think that. I'm not saying just
Speaker 6: a Taylor Swift thing, but just his popularity with everything
Speaker 6: hasn't benefactor at all, distraction.
Speaker 4: To a certain extent. So man, they're just not doing well.
Speaker 6: He was to start the season two. He might not
Speaker 6: even be healthy. Yeah, remember he didn't even start this
Speaker 6: They when they played the Lions at the beginning the year.
Speaker 6: That was one thing else I was gonna say. It's
Speaker 6: about the difference between the Lions and the Cowboys. The
Speaker 6: Lions like they're on everyone's happy because they're the direction
Speaker 6: they're heading. But like if you look at their schedule.
Speaker 6: If that was the Cowboys schedule, nobody would be sitting
Speaker 6: here going yeah. But the Cowboys got that road win
Speaker 6: against Kansas City to start the year because that was
Speaker 6: a big kickoff to the season for the Lions. Where
Speaker 6: it's like they didn't have Chris Jones, they didn't have
Speaker 6: Travis Kelcey. This isn't the chief scene you thought was.
Speaker 6: And then they've beaten the Bucks on the road. And
Speaker 6: if the Cowboys had done that, I don't think we'd
Speaker 6: be sitting here going yeah.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 6: I understand they didn't beat the Bills or Dolphins, but
Speaker 6: remember when they beat the Bucks, Like, I don't think
Speaker 6: we would say they went in Tampa Bay and beat
Speaker 6: the Bucks.
Speaker 4: What worries you most about Detroit's offense?
Speaker 6: The run game is going and then they're just eating
Speaker 6: clock and keeping Dallas' offense off the field. I think
Speaker 6: that that would be the biggest one. And then Dallas
Speaker 6: has to play from behind, and then you got eight
Speaker 6: and Huches and pin his ears back and that kind
Speaker 6: of stuff. So I think that if the running game
Speaker 6: got going, I think that would be the biggest concern.
Speaker 6: What about you you want to get you would love
Speaker 6: to get in a high scoring game against this team.
Speaker 5: I feel if you're the Cowboys, yeah, a shootout, yeah yeah,
Speaker 5: I worry about them just eating a clock, yeah, and
Speaker 5: then playing a physical brand football on opposing So I
Speaker 5: mean they took out tight end for the You're worried.
Speaker 3: They buffalo you like James Cook And now it's Montgomery
Speaker 3: and Gibbs and it's just boom boom, boom boom, down
Speaker 3: the field, down the field down, Yeah, because their style
Speaker 3: of offense, like they would They're okay running at seventy
Speaker 3: percent at the time, am throwing at thirty But they're
Speaker 3: okay with that now they are perfectly fine with that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and like that from that sense, how calm they are
Speaker 3: in their operation, it's it leads me a little.
Speaker 4: Little bubba gouddy, not bubble guppy, but bubble gouddy, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you say that, and I agree with you. I think
Speaker 4: they do.
Speaker 3: They run the ball effectively, and whenever they've had Jared
Speaker 3: Goff held underneath thirty five attempts, they're undefeated. They are
Speaker 3: six and zero whenever he's held under thirty five passing attempts.
Speaker 4: So I mean a lot of that is cause I mean,
Speaker 4: it's because you're playing from behind, you throw it a
Speaker 4: little bit more.
Speaker 3: He's thrown it at least twenty five times in every
Speaker 3: single game this year, all but three, he's thrown it
Speaker 3: at least thirty three times, and he has four games
Speaker 3: where he's had forty or more passing attempts. So they
Speaker 3: will throw it around like that's not out of the
Speaker 3: question either. They've thrown it forty times against Minnesota in
Speaker 3: a win, forty four times against Tampa Bay in a win,
Speaker 3: forty four times against Green Bay and a tight loss,
Speaker 3: and then he threw a fifty three times in a
Speaker 3: blowout game against Baltimore, so that one's kind of a loss.
Speaker 4: But they'll throw it around every would you say their
Speaker 4: approach was to Dallas last year?
Speaker 2: Offensively, I don't remember what half for dinner last night.
Speaker 4: I Saydah, do you remember where you were last night?
Speaker 2: I do, I do. Fortunately, gosh, do not remember that
Speaker 2: game at all?
Speaker 4: Coming back, I'm getting to that game at all. I
Speaker 4: just remember the physicality. It was very, very physical.
Speaker 2: That is what I worry about when I look at
Speaker 2: this game, is because you look at the teams that
Speaker 2: have been on paper more physical than the Cowboys this year.
Speaker 2: They've given them issues even at home, Like there's been
Speaker 2: a couple of instances where they've they've been given issues
Speaker 2: in Dallas.
Speaker 5: I feel like Dallas matched the physicality of this week
Speaker 5: in Miami.
Speaker 4: I really feel that.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but Miami I don't feel like has.
Speaker 4: Agreed agree terrible physicality agreed.
Speaker 5: But it's a it's a mentality thing, right, It's a
Speaker 5: decision to enforce your will. So I told I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna argue with you on that one. Miami is not
Speaker 5: detroit when it comes to physicality. But I like the
Speaker 5: fact that they matched it right. Even though it wasn't
Speaker 5: at that level, they still they didn't They didn't bow
Speaker 5: down or back down from it like they brought it right.
Speaker 5: You talk about Millie Hooker like he brought it, you know,
Speaker 5: d Law, he brought it. Like those guys, they had
Speaker 5: an attitude to them on that side of the ball.
Speaker 6: But I think we would all have been surprised if
Speaker 6: they didn't coming off that Buffalo game. The way they
Speaker 6: played against Miami is exactly how expected because we have
Speaker 6: a long track record. Like when I talk about the Lions,
Speaker 6: it's a lot more of it is about this season
Speaker 6: the Cowboys. This is like a building off of we're
Speaker 6: a third season now of team making the playoffs, a
Speaker 6: good football team, and so because of that, it's just
Speaker 6: it's a little bit different of a thing where I
Speaker 6: feel like you can count on like, well, they just
Speaker 6: played that game against buffal There's no way they're going
Speaker 6: to show up this week playing that poorly. Their run defense,
Speaker 6: no way, now, dan Quinn in this defense, they got
Speaker 6: too much skins on the wall for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Last year's game for Detroit, Jared Goff twenty one of
Speaker 3: twenty six passing, but he had two interceptions, no touchdowns.
Speaker 3: They lost, of course, twenty four to six. Had the
Speaker 3: two field goals in the first half and they were
Speaker 3: shut out in the second half. Michael Parsons had a
Speaker 3: couple of sacks. Donovan Wilson had a sack. They were
Speaker 3: running is whether they were I mean, they were running
Speaker 3: away is what they were doing for sure, and that
Speaker 3: was the game plan survived.
Speaker 2: The difference too, is they had neither of those running
Speaker 2: backs that they're going to bring to the field on Saturday.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of weapons on that offense that they did.
Speaker 2: James Williams, Samuel Porta. I mean it's a completely different look.
Speaker 4: Williams was there leading rusher last year. I forgot his
Speaker 4: first name, Jamal Williams. Jamal Williams was their leading.
Speaker 5: Rusher fifteen seventy nine. To improve their offense this year,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, definitely, that's what those picks on them.
Speaker 6: It is crazy, though, how much this Lions team has
Speaker 6: turned around. And I don't think enough is said about this.
Speaker 6: From the day that they traded TJ. Hockinson. It makes
Speaker 6: no sense because you're talking they trade Hockinson and they're
Speaker 6: maybe like two one and six, two and six. They
Speaker 6: look like you're just waving the white flag or whatever,
Speaker 6: and they went on this run after it happened, and
Speaker 6: it doesn't make any sense because he's obviously a good player.
Speaker 6: So I honestly, I don't understand it at all. But
Speaker 6: they obviously that was That's what I'm saying, just a
Speaker 6: different team than they were when they played the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Well, they were one and five after they lost to
Speaker 3: the Cowboys last year. They lost the week after that
Speaker 3: to the Dolphins, and then since then they've absolutely taken
Speaker 3: off and they've won I mean most of their game
Speaker 3: since then, after losing to Miami, they won all but
Speaker 3: two of their remaining games.
Speaker 4: So what is that.
Speaker 3: That's eight and two down the stretch, and then of
Speaker 3: course they're eleven and four this year, eleven fours. That's
Speaker 3: an incredible season. It's incredible season. It'll be a fun
Speaker 3: one to see on Saturdays.
Speaker 4: That tied for the best in the league.
Speaker 3: Right now, who is Baltimore's twelve and three? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: best in the NFC. It's tied for best in the NFC.
Speaker 6: And they've got a chance, they've got play Baltimore. Man,
Speaker 6: that was not even I mean, that was embarrassing, Like
Speaker 6: the Liones were destroyed by Baltimore. It was during the
Speaker 6: Cowboys bye week, and that Baltimore did the same thing
Speaker 6: they did in San Francisco, where you just look at them,
Speaker 6: you're like, man, maybe this is by far the best
Speaker 6: team in the league.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty eight to six was that final score. It
Speaker 3: was in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: It's a noon game. I remember it was just bloody
Speaker 2: for at the very beginning.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, all right, that's it for us today here
Speaker 3: on talking Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Tomorrow, we've got QB vision.
Speaker 3: We'll take a look at the offensive preview for the
Speaker 3: Cowboys offense going up against the Detroit defense. Can the
Speaker 3: Detroit defense match the physicality of what their offense will
Speaker 3: bring to the table on Saturday for Chris be Isaiah
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