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Speaker 1: What's up. It's way up with Angela. Yee, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to this conversation today. You know, Coach Jesse's always bringing

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Speaker 1: a knowledge, and today's conversation is one that every woman

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Speaker 1: needs to hear and talk about. And men, y'all need

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Speaker 1: to hear this, and kids who have parents, who's a mom?

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Speaker 1: You need to hear this real, okay, because this affects everybody.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about menopause and perimenopause and what they really

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Speaker 1: are with their not how can we navigate this season

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Speaker 1: of life and power and without panicking. So coach to

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Speaker 1: Jesse Thompson, the founder of Detox, Now we're here to

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Speaker 1: have this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Man, you know, and this is like real near and

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Speaker 2: dear to me Angela, because personally, I actually started my

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Speaker 2: journey of holistic health when I hit menopause prematurely, because

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Speaker 2: after battling fibers for fourteen years, I ended up having

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Speaker 2: to have a partial hysterectomy. Well, I was told that

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Speaker 2: was the only solution I had where they left my ovaries,

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Speaker 2: so I was not supposed to end up in menopause.

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Speaker 2: But here I was forty four years old, and literally

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Speaker 2: the wheels fell off all right, we're talking about sex.

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Speaker 2: Went from feeling like how did Halle Berry say? She

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Speaker 2: said it was like death by a thousand razor blades,

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Speaker 2: That's what it was like. Okay, and I'm like, this

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Speaker 2: can't be you know. And I just I'd been through

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Speaker 2: five IVF cycles, so that means I was already had

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Speaker 2: order to stimulate you know, your hormones for the IVF cycles.

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Speaker 2: And I just said, well, I'm not gonna go pump

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Speaker 1: I need a natural solution.

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Speaker 2: You know. For some that may be the way they chose,

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Speaker 2: but I was like, this can't be it. So that

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Speaker 2: really is what started me looking for natural solutions and

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Speaker 2: my journey to what ended up me founding the detox

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Speaker 2: now because I learned that when I started working on

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Speaker 2: balancing my hormones and getting high healthy levels of D

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Speaker 1: That was straight into menopause. It was that perimenopause, because

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Speaker 1: how do people know the difference?

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Speaker 2: So okay, so well that's a good you know again,

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Speaker 2: So that's why I'm so happy to have our guest today,

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Speaker 2: which is going to be a one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: women's health providers, doctor Peggy.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's my doctor. I gotta come back.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Thank you for the first Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for trusting us with your care, and.

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Speaker 1: For cross the street from my coffee shop.

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Speaker 3: Was very good.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I was literally.

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Speaker 4: You know, stalking the doctor.

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Speaker 2: I was like, she's right across the street and she's phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: So that was the first year she's phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: This is such a needed conversation, and we need to

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Speaker 3: normalize perry menopause and menopause, right, because every woman will

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Speaker 3: go through this transition. And so when we start the

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Speaker 3: conversations early with our young women, we include our young

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Speaker 3: see a shift in how we deal with especially women,

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Speaker 3: because women are suffering in silence.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So how do you know, like what is the

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Speaker 1: difference between So from my knowledge, perimenopause is what happens

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Speaker 1: before menopause and it's more gradual. Right, So when I

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Speaker 1: went to the doctor, they tested me because after the hysterectomy,

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Speaker 1: I said I would call my gys as something drastically wrong,

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Speaker 1: like things have changed drastically.

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Speaker 2: He you know, tested my hormones. He's like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're in menopause. It was like I skipped.

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Speaker 1: So that's how you can test your hormones to know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So that's such a good question because that's that

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Speaker 3: you don't know with perimenopause, right, and menopause. So metopause

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Speaker 3: is when you've had no period for twelve months, right,

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Speaker 3: But the perimenopause is that period of time that Coach

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Speaker 3: Chessie's talking about where you don't feel like yourself and

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Speaker 3: you don't know what's going on, and that can happen

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Speaker 3: anywhere from seven to ten years.

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Speaker 3: It is more severe in women of color and it

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Speaker 3: a clinical practice is that perimenopause is starting as early

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Speaker 2: I think this is why we need to talk about

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Speaker 1: You know, I always hear just like hot flashes. That's

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Speaker 1: a big one. Yes, people are always like hot flashes

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Speaker 1: must be menopause, you know. But let's introduce Victoria.

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Speaker 2: We got to well, so the reason Victoria is so important?

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Speaker 2: So okay, Victoria Victoria call Well, she's a life and

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Speaker 2: growth strategist and you know, founder of Team Impress, and

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Speaker 2: here she was finding like her whole life was going

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Speaker 4: Right, because like Angela, you asked, how do you know, Well,

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Speaker 1: Like when you say everything.

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Speaker 4: Well, the hot flashes, the night sweats, the hair thinning. Well,

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Speaker 4: I was picking Jesse all the time and I was like,

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Speaker 1: And did you discuss with your husband being newly married,

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Speaker 4: Well, it was a little bit, we both because I

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Speaker 4: I don't recall all of this being a part of this,

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Speaker 1: Probably but never And how old were you well at

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm still getting there, but I just don't feel

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Speaker 2: You know these things, right, because you were like every

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Speaker 3: But AnyWho, they didn't validate your concern that, that's what

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Speaker 4: And he didn't invalidate it. He invalidated it because I said,

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Speaker 4: I got tested for COVID, I got tested for the flu.

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Speaker 4: I'm sitting here sick with fevers for weeks and nothing.

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Speaker 1: So that's like when they tell you you have to

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Speaker 4: But that urating and pressing and that's going.

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Speaker 4: That, and I'm looking at him. He's like, well, you

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Speaker 4: you're that And I'm like, do you know how my

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Speaker 2: That's why I said she had to come share a story.

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Speaker 4: And it's like, you don't have to take it every day.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, that's almost what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what's going on is but yeah, he

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Speaker 1: basically basically he had no idea.

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Speaker 4: I didn't say. He was just yea and didn't care

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Speaker 4: So you know, finally, yeah, I was reaching out, but

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Speaker 2: She was, what, what lubricants can I use?

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Speaker 2: Think about it also feeling as someone who's newlywed, you're

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Speaker 4: I promised you and it's not you, and it's not you.

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Speaker 4: It's hell. It's hell because before you just it was

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Speaker 1: Like, look you said, because if you're with somebody and

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Speaker 1: It's not anything that you're doing. And she needs to

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Speaker 2: It is because of the change in the vaginal pH right,

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Speaker 4: It's true, you know, because you brought up another point

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Speaker 2: It's very similar to how it's been normalized for women

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Speaker 2: D three being something that disproportion affects us as people

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Speaker 2: of color, we are now at higher risk and we're

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Speaker 2: dealing with more severe symptoms because that one thing, right, Right,

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Speaker 2: and then of course there's the trauma of racism and

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Speaker 2: other things that we deal with that cause us to

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Speaker 2: deal with more hormonal imbalance and more chronic inflammation, right,

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Speaker 2: because we're more stressed.

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Speaker 1: How important is also physical activity when it comes to

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Speaker 1: more important than aerobic when it comes to menopause.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I tell women to move.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think it's important to move during this time and

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Speaker 3: it's good for our bones. Losing our estrogen is very,

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Speaker 3: very detrimental to our bones and it can lead to

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Speaker 3: bone loss. So I always say, you know, you can

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Speaker 3: walk inside your house if you're unable to get to

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Speaker 3: a gym, but you have to move. Your weight training

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Speaker 3: it's very important because it also releases properties to bring

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Speaker 3: down that insulin resistance. And it is and it doesn't

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Speaker 3: have the weights.

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Speaker 2: It can be you know, calisthetics, it can be cycling, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it could be cycling.

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Speaker 1: It could be rowing. You know, I like to row.

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Speaker 1: I have a rower because even going through this people

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Speaker 1: gain weight. A lot of us gain weights, and we're like,

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Speaker 1: we cannot get this weight off, and.

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Speaker 2: They think that aerobic activity is I'll do more aerobic No,

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Speaker 2: do more strength training. That actually is going to target

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Speaker 2: it better. Actually, when you're going through the hormone.

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Speaker 3: Changes, especially in the midsection, because that's where because again

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Speaker 3: it's a redistribution of fat that happens from the decline

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Speaker 3: of estrogen. And to your point, you know, resistance training

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Speaker 3: is really going to help calibrate that midsection. And they're

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Speaker 3: also nutrition that is extremely, extremely important. And I always

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Speaker 3: truss the antioxidants. How important that is in your diet. Yes,

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Speaker 3: the vitamins A, C, and E. And it's not just

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Speaker 3: one thing. And we were discussing, I wish it was

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Speaker 3: one thing throughout this transition.

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Speaker 1: But it's not.

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Speaker 2: I think it's never just one thing, right, thyroids or endo, perimenopause, menopause.

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Speaker 2: It's it isn't one thing because it really is like lifestyle,

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Speaker 2: so affects how it shows up in our lives.

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Speaker 1: What are some things we should look for to know that, like, okay,

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Speaker 1: this could potentially be menopause or perimenopause.

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Speaker 3: First, listen to your body. Women know what's going on

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Speaker 3: with themselves. Uh, you know when it comes to perimenopause,

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Speaker 3: between irregular periods, irritability, moodiness, more moodiness, you're snapping at people,

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Speaker 3: a little bit, more brain fog, you're not remembering things.

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Speaker 3: I get patients who come in and that says, you know,

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Speaker 3: I've been doing the same job for the last ten years,

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Speaker 3: but I still can't just get it together. Insomnia waking

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Speaker 3: up at that witching hour between two and four.

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Speaker 2: In the morning, and that's connected to D three too, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: So it makes it worse or better depending on that.

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Speaker 3: And also not you know, palpitations. Some women may think

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Speaker 3: they're having a panic attack or a heart attack, ringing

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Speaker 3: in the ears. You know, you don't really usually think

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Speaker 3: about that, you know what.

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Speaker 2: Ignoring snoring, Yeah, people think, oh, I just all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden started snoring. Well, that actually is connected to

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Speaker 2: perimenopause too, absolutely, Like it's it's it's it's not it's

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Speaker 2: it's so whole body that you don't realize. You're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm just aging, I'm just getting bad. I'm just No,

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Speaker 2: you're you don't and you don't have.

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Speaker 1: To suffer through it.

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Speaker 2: I think that that's the joy of it is that

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Speaker 2: we don't have to suffer through it. We can actually

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Speaker 2: reclaim our joy by getting the right support, getting in

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Speaker 2: the right community, you know, and understanding like, Okay, my stressors,

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Speaker 2: my my bounce, my hormones, my nutrition, and it doesn't

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Speaker 2: have to feel overwhelming.

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Speaker 3: No, not at all. It takes a couple of appointments

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Speaker 3: sometimes and I sit down with patients and we go

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Speaker 3: through their symptoms and it shared decision making. I want

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Speaker 3: you to feel empowered to make the decision about your health.

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Speaker 3: So we talk about all the treatment options and then

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Speaker 3: we talk about what do you feel is best for you,

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Speaker 3: and to know that you're supported with whatever decision you make.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes we may need to pivot, we may start

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Speaker 3: one thing and then pivot to another. But it's very

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Speaker 3: important to know that there are options and treatment options

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Speaker 3: out there management and you do not have to just

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Speaker 3: bear with it that that's like the bane of my

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Speaker 3: existence with I just have to deal with it.

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Speaker 1: I just just.

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Speaker 2: Because just the world out there is just like you're

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Speaker 2: just it's just, oh, you're just going through the change.

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Speaker 3: So that's what's going to happen, so dismissive.

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Speaker 2: And I think with men, something that came up I

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Speaker 2: think was the fact that helping them understand that intimacy

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Speaker 2: doesn't always just have to be you know, like sexual

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Speaker 2: in that time and can also just because if you go,

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Speaker 2: if you're adjusting, if you're you're finding yourselfself in that place.

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Speaker 2: The communication is the key, absolutely absolutely, And I give

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Speaker 2: women tips all the time when it comes to intimacy

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Speaker 2: because you know, most often women come in and they're like, listen,

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Speaker 2: I love my partner, I'm still attracted, but I just

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Speaker 2: physically don't feel like I want to engage in your

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Speaker 2: real Yeah, and that's the thing, and you have to

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Speaker 2: see what works for you and your relationship and to

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Speaker 2: know that it's okay, it's okay not to be okay.

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Speaker 2: And then we talk about different tips and you know,

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Speaker 2: resources that will help them get through this time. Awesome.

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Speaker 2: I want to wrap up, Victoria, how did this affect

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Speaker 2: you professionally as well? Because I know we talked about personally,

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Speaker 2: because I mean a lot of women don't acknowledge the

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Speaker 2: fact that they're at work and they are suffering and

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Speaker 2: it's just supposed to be okay.

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Speaker 4: You know some of the stuff I'm learning here and

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Speaker 4: I've learned through you that like the brain fog, like

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Speaker 4: the forgetting stuff I know very well, and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: wait a minute, like just my clarity on things that

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Speaker 4: I just couldn't just I've gotten more done in the

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Speaker 4: last few months than I've done in the last eighteen

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Speaker 4: months in terms of just the momentum. And you know,

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Speaker 4: my ideas are so much better. My execution is so

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Speaker 4: much better. But I didn't even realize that that was

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Speaker 4: part of it too, because I'm sitting here, like she said,

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Speaker 4: ringing in the years and I'm like that too. Now

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Speaker 4: that wasn't as frequent, but I had it. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: where is that coming from? But I might have had

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Speaker 4: one or two, but it was uncommon.

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Speaker 1: How do you deal with that in the workplace then,

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Speaker 1: because it's one thing to have a conversation with your

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Speaker 1: significant others, a whole nother thing at work to have

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Speaker 1: to explain to.

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Speaker 3: That's a good absolutely. So there is a movement now

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Speaker 3: where the Metopause Society has put out a guidance for

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Speaker 3: workplaces to adopt a metopause policy where you know, and

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Speaker 3: it has different things to support women during this transition.

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Speaker 3: Also is seen as you know, you can have FMLA

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Speaker 3: with menopause because you need that time. It could be

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Speaker 3: it could be something as you know, keeping the temperature

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Speaker 3: in the office down, okay, it can be as simple

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Speaker 3: as that, or having a respite room for a lot

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Speaker 3: of these women too, and then also not making them

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Speaker 3: feel batter or pointing out certain imperfections or when the

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Speaker 3: work is not getting done as swiftly as before. So

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Speaker 3: there is a guidance. And you know, I've spoken to

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Speaker 3: many organizations regarding what HR can do to help support

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Speaker 3: their employees going through this, and I say, I employ

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Speaker 3: the employers out there to really look at this policy

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Speaker 3: because your employees, you know, it's going to make a difference,

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Speaker 3: and they need to know that they're supported not only

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Speaker 3: at home but at work.

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Speaker 1: We got a nature we keep on continuing these conversations

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Speaker 1: because it's important because, like you said, we're all going

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Speaker 1: to go through this, yes, and we don't, and we

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Speaker 1: can do it one of two ways, suffering or because

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Speaker 1: we're going through it, you'll go.

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Speaker 4: Through it.

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 4: That's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. I'm so grateful, thank you so

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Speaker 4: much for allowing you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just greatful you living on the other side of

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Speaker 1: it now.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, And I'm really excited because you know,

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Speaker 4: it's just did the water fast and I've done it twice,

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Speaker 4: but this one I think I did. I did more

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Speaker 4: in the seven days than the fourteen, Okay, because I

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Speaker 4: did the fourteen two years ago and then I did

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Speaker 4: the seven and so I'm just really.

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Speaker 1: Was like, I'm getting so much done, so much. That's good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm getting a lot of stuff. So so I'm excited.

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Speaker 4: I feel good and you know I'm still gonna continue.

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Speaker 4: I'm you know you don't. You don't treat people in care.

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Speaker 2: I know who listens to you like this big thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you, shares who doesn't feel it's only one way

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Speaker 2: and we'll support you absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Peggy Sander. They alarms found right and she's like,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: And to my fellow healthcare providers out there, we have

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Speaker 3: to listen to women. We have to listen and be

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Speaker 3: able to support them through this transition. And I can't.

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Speaker 3: I can't stress the importance of an integrative, personalized approach

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Speaker 3: because we may have recommendations, but we have to listen

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Speaker 3: to what is going to work well for that patient

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Speaker 3: and to also be culturally competent when we're doing it

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 1: That part, yes, all right? But where can people find? Everybody?

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Speaker 3: Here? So you can find us at Trust Women's Healthcare.

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Speaker 3: We have physical locations in Bethstei, Brooklyn and Deer Park,

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Speaker 3: Long Island. We're on all social media platforms at Trust

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Speaker 3: Women's Healthcare, and we are at nine to nine seven

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Speaker 3: eight trust and.

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Speaker 2: If you are waiting for your appointments, you could right

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Speaker 2: go right to the cup, right across, right across, yes, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I'm at teamimpress dot com and I'm helping leaders

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Speaker 4: lead better, not stress themselves out scale without burnout, and

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Speaker 4: not stress their teams out as well. And you know,

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Speaker 4: the very same things that we talk about. We address

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Speaker 4: the stress and everything from a performance so sustainable high

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Speaker 4: performance for the leaders to teams, and the cash flow

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Speaker 1: Come to Jesse Detox.

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Speaker 2: always thank you.

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Speaker 1: This is always an important conversation for us to continue

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Speaker 1: to have. So I thank you guys for making time today.

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