Speaker 1: Oh my god, is this a Gek Logan twenty seven?
Speaker 2: Male?
Speaker 1: That's what you texted me. You said, what's up, Gek,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the toilet right now fighting for my
Speaker 1: life and would love to chat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, dude, I.
Speaker 2: Was fucking I was struggling, but I just got up.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go get some water and rehydrate.
Speaker 1: Okay. You also said I might lose my relationship over
Speaker 1: boulders Gate three. What's going on there?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, have you? Are you familiar with the game.
Speaker 1: I'm not into like a high fantasy shit, but I
Speaker 1: know what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: Well it's like I didn't think I was, but I
Speaker 2: started playing it, and I have an extremely addictive personality
Speaker 2: and it is just completely taken over my life.
Speaker 1: So how did you almost lose your relationship where you
Speaker 1: spending too much time on it and kind of neglecting it?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean I wouldn't. I may have
Speaker 2: been being a tad bit dramatic whenever I said that,
Speaker 2: but she was very upset that I would go on
Speaker 2: like a nice like eight hour bender and just absolutely
Speaker 2: lose myself.
Speaker 5: But yes, it's it's it's absolutely incredible like I said, like,
Speaker 5: I'm not really that big into like the D and
Speaker 5: D stuff, but I was like, you know what, in
Speaker 5: one game of the year for a reason, so I
Speaker 5: might as well try it.
Speaker 2: But it's it's nuts. I'm actually warming up. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: go ahead, go ahead. Well, it's just saying like, I'm
Speaker 2: probably gonna warm up the PS five and see if
Speaker 2: I can get in a little success right now, because she's.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask, what's it on? Because I
Speaker 1: had a Steam Deck and it broke and now I
Speaker 1: just have the little switch.
Speaker 2: Oh that's killer. Well I mean, well I have a
Speaker 2: switch too, but I think it released PlayStation Xbox PC.
Speaker 1: Ah fuck, I gotta get my stea. I went to
Speaker 1: one of those like repair shops to get the Steam
Speaker 1: deck fixed, and they told me it was going to
Speaker 1: cost four hundred bucks to fix it. And the fucking
Speaker 1: the damn thing cost four hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, but that that's not even worth it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I'll send it back to Steam. Uh So,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm familiar with the idea of a
Speaker 1: video game that's so good that it'll ruin your life
Speaker 1: because I played Red Dead Redemption last year, Like The
Speaker 1: Fall of last year, and I'm telling you the second one, yeah,
Speaker 1: red Redemption two. Anytime I was out of my house
Speaker 1: while I was playing that game, I was thinking about
Speaker 1: how I would so much rather be in my house
Speaker 1: playing Oh that dude. And there are video games that
Speaker 1: are worth ruining your career and relationships for.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm familiar with that. But also, did you
Speaker 2: go into Red Dead? I'm quite the Red Dead guy myself.
Speaker 2: I was extremely disappointed that they didn't put an undead
Speaker 2: nightmare in the second one.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well that's because fucking rock Star is, like, hey, you
Speaker 1: know what would make a lot more money than creating
Speaker 1: compelling single player DLC is releasing fucking skins on whatever,
Speaker 1: all nine version of the game we have for ten years.
Speaker 1: But anyway, do you say that you would or you
Speaker 1: would include Bowlersgate three on the list of video games
Speaker 1: we're ruining your life for.
Speaker 2: I would put it on that list, man, I really would.
Speaker 1: All right, maybe I'll maybe instead of ever doing this
Speaker 1: podcast or going on tour or talking to anyone, all.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I need you actually, have you ever I'm
Speaker 2: kind of new to your podcast that I'm absolutely like
Speaker 2: loving every second of it. Have you ever come to
Speaker 2: the Louisiana because that's where.
Speaker 1: I'm at Louisiana. Where the hell is that? I actually
Speaker 1: that's why that's one of the states I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever been to, whether either as a get go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the closest one. I think if I wanted to
Speaker 2: go see you live, I would have to go to
Speaker 2: Texas or go to Huntsville, Alabama.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you can come to Huntsville, Alabama, dude, join
Speaker 1: Uh whatever, Okay, Well, I don't want to get off
Speaker 1: subject here. So how long you've been dating this girl
Speaker 1: that you're neglecting to play boulders Gate?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Two years? Man? And I love her. I mean I
Speaker 2: truly see myself like being with her long term and
Speaker 2: even like getting married in the near future. And she's
Speaker 2: just not She's not a big gamer girl, and I
Speaker 2: just I don't I just don't know if she completely
Speaker 2: understands like how big like gaming is, and so she's
Speaker 2: like she she'll play like animal crossing on the switch,
Speaker 2: but that's like basically it for her. But like I
Speaker 2: go hard on the pain like I But yeah, no,
Speaker 2: but she's, like I said, she's great. Wouldn't change a
Speaker 2: single atom of her like she's the bomb dot com,
Speaker 2: but she's just not a hardcore gamer like me.
Speaker 1: Man, how did you guys meet?
Speaker 2: We actually met in grad school. We both work in
Speaker 2: the in the medical field. We actually both work in
Speaker 2: sports medicine, and we met. She was a year ahead
Speaker 2: of me. I thought she was cute. I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I might try dating a coworker. And
Speaker 2: two years later we moved away and we're living together
Speaker 2: and living life.
Speaker 1: Manacon, So did she straight up tell you, hey, you
Speaker 1: got to stop playing so much? Like like, okay, well
Speaker 1: you said you you said you exaggerated it right when
Speaker 1: you told me that you almost ruined your relationship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what happened? Tell me, like realistically what happened?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean like she like she came home, she
Speaker 2: was like, hey, like we both had the afternoon off,
Speaker 2: like what to be doing. I'm like, dude, like, I'm
Speaker 2: elbow deep in a quest right now, I'm like exploring.
Speaker 2: I'm exploring and forrest with some elves here. And she
Speaker 2: was like, you're seriously not going to stop playing? I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: like I can't. Like I was in one of those
Speaker 2: things where you can't like I couldn't save at the time,
Speaker 2: and so if I would have quit, I would have
Speaker 2: lost a lot of proms. And so I was like,
Speaker 2: I gotta finish this. And then she kind of stomped
Speaker 2: away a little bit. But nothing crazy.
Speaker 1: That's super funny. Okay, here's bro okay on a these days.
Speaker 1: Look these days, right, I mean, you're an adult. You
Speaker 1: have your own PC. It's not like, Okay, so back
Speaker 1: when you were a kid and you were playing on
Speaker 1: your PlayStation on the family TV, and like somebody else
Speaker 1: wanted to come use the TV and you were at
Speaker 1: a point where you had to so you had to quit.
Speaker 1: It was a little bit difficult because like you couldn't uh,
Speaker 1: I mean even then you could still leave it running, right,
Speaker 1: you could just pause and leave the fuck running. So
Speaker 1: why not why the fuck just pause it and leave
Speaker 1: it running. It's not like it's an online game.
Speaker 2: Well I mean, well it's bad. But then also like
Speaker 2: my personal like things of that is like I'm not
Speaker 2: we're around the same age, I think, but like my
Speaker 2: first gaming thing was like the GameCube. Yeah, and like
Speaker 2: that was that wasn't it issue? But then when I
Speaker 2: started getting into like the PlayStations and the Xbox, is
Speaker 2: like I'd be playing like cod Zombies or something, I'd
Speaker 2: be playing online.
Speaker 1: But okay, Ballerskates Balder Skates a single player.
Speaker 2: Game, right, it is. But you can play online if
Speaker 2: you do so, choose you could, but like like you
Speaker 2: can run the you can do the campaign with other
Speaker 2: people online, you can, but it's mainly like geared towards
Speaker 2: single player.
Speaker 1: So okay, so why didn't okay, but why don't you
Speaker 1: just fucking pause it and then come back?
Speaker 2: Oh, because I one time I had when when I
Speaker 2: was actually playing my Xbox three sixty, I did that
Speaker 2: and it actually caught on fire. And so now I'm
Speaker 2: no longer too keen on leaving stuff on.
Speaker 1: Okay, you your girlfriend came home, she said, we have
Speaker 1: the afternoon off. What are we going to do? You said, yeah, bitch,
Speaker 1: get out of here. I'm playing Bowler Skate three. She got,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: I didn't say it in a rude way, but I
Speaker 2: was like, hey, like we can go do these things
Speaker 2: like once I finished this quest like.
Speaker 1: Right right, no, no, no, that's that's not what right
Speaker 1: of course that's not what you said, but that is
Speaker 1: what she heard.
Speaker 2: And then oh yeah, so she basically heard it as like, oh,
Speaker 2: like you love the game more than me.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, so did you talk to her afterwards?
Speaker 1: Like did you ever resolve this? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. So now basically I have to
Speaker 2: be really strategic because now, like I said, she's actually
Speaker 2: back home in Ohio visiting family for like the next
Speaker 2: two days. I'm just gonna order some pizzas, get some
Speaker 2: mountain dew, and just grind it out.
Speaker 1: How would you feel if she left you? Would you
Speaker 1: be like, would would you be sad? Or would you
Speaker 1: be like more time to play boulders Gate three?
Speaker 2: I mean the the initial answer would definitely be oh yeah,
Speaker 2: Boulder's Gate all the way. But then once I probably
Speaker 2: beat it, or once I actually like the reality sets in,
Speaker 2: I would be extremely distraught.
Speaker 1: Yes, That's how these fucking things work, I think is
Speaker 1: like something bad happens and you're like, oh, great, if
Speaker 1: I'm finally free, you know, everything's gonna be awesome, and
Speaker 1: then you give it a little bit and then it
Speaker 1: sets in like oh, I'm gonna dialone this.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but it's like to the point to where
Speaker 2: like I can't even imagine, like I can barely imagine
Speaker 2: like going through my daily routine without having her like, like,
Speaker 2: we're at that point.
Speaker 1: It's cool, man, that's cool. Well all right, I mean
Speaker 1: if that's the case, then what did you do to
Speaker 1: resolve this? Like all right, all right? She comes now,
Speaker 1: she comes home and she says, hey, babe, we have
Speaker 1: the afternoon off. What are we going to do? What
Speaker 1: do you say? And you're in the middle of a quest.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, Hey, I'm gonna put this controller down
Speaker 2: and we're gonna do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 1: There you go, here's a guy who's not going to
Speaker 1: die alone.
Speaker 2: Amen to that.
Speaker 1: Brother, Well you're an inspiration. Do you have any advice
Speaker 1: for anyone else who's uh thinking about neglecting their social, financial,
Speaker 1: or otherwise obligations in favor of playing video games for
Speaker 1: eight hours?
Speaker 2: It might sound good in the presence, but in the
Speaker 2: long haul it probably isn't. So just just budget your time,
Speaker 2: budget your money, and if you if you have someone
Speaker 2: that has a problem with it, new person. I mean
Speaker 2: that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1: But well, all right, I'm going to look into it.
Speaker 1: Because again, I'm not into high fantasy ship. But people
Speaker 1: keep talking about Bowler's Gate three. Although I've made a
Speaker 1: mistake I've made a mistake of There's been a lot
Speaker 1: of critically acclaimed video games that I've sat down to
Speaker 1: play and been like and like this.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, well that that See that's the way I
Speaker 2: saw it too. I'm not trying to keep you on,
Speaker 2: but that's the way I felt as well. But I
Speaker 2: remember like reading in this article, like one of my
Speaker 2: coworkers is a more of a gamer than me, and
Speaker 2: he said like, hey, this is like the first video
Speaker 2: game ever to win like every single major awards studios game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, sure, sure sure sure. You know what else what?
Speaker 1: Uh A few games the people have dick ridden that
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of. Uh Oh, I played
Speaker 1: this game recently. I just downloaded this game. It's called Hades.
Speaker 1: Hades Fuck was it? You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I did not like it at all. Okay, I thought
Speaker 1: it was repetitive. I thought the main character was kind
Speaker 1: of a douche. Yeah about it. On the switch, I
Speaker 1: thought I was repetitive. I thought the main character was
Speaker 1: a douche. I didn't like the story. I just wasn't.
Speaker 1: This wasn't into it. But ever on every one, everything
Speaker 1: everyone told me was that it was like the best
Speaker 1: game ever. Uh, Zelda Breath of the Wild and Tears
Speaker 1: of the Kingdom. Everyone Dick rides I didn't like either,
Speaker 1: super boring, super repetitive, all the like in the old
Speaker 1: Zelda games, every dungeon was like new and different. Here
Speaker 1: are the dungeons like the same? Anyway, whatever, nobody cares
Speaker 1: about any of this stuff. I'm gonna start a new podcast.
Speaker 1: It's just me getting pissed off about video games.
Speaker 4: What are you? Are you looking?
Speaker 2: Are you actually looking forward to an upcoming release?
Speaker 1: Uh? I mean the biggest one that I'm really looking
Speaker 1: forward to is Grand Theft Auto six. But you know what,
Speaker 1: Grand Theft Ato six actually has been really helpful for
Speaker 1: me because I live my life in such a way
Speaker 1: that like, I really don't know what my life is.
Speaker 1: I don't know what my life is going to be
Speaker 1: A year from now. I don't know what my life
Speaker 1: is going to be like you know, two months from now,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And Grand Theft Loto six
Speaker 1: is this weird thing of like I have this problem
Speaker 1: of like, uh, understanding that there's a really good chance
Speaker 1: that I will still exist a year from now, like
Speaker 1: I have I've always had that problem, and Grand Theft
Speaker 1: Thatto six is this way of me being like, Okay,
Speaker 1: eventually Grand Theft Thoto six will come out and I
Speaker 1: will exist in September of twenty twenty five. So let
Speaker 1: me think about my life as if that is true.
Speaker 1: Other than that, though not really, I'm trying to do.
Speaker 1: You have any suggestions. I downloaded Hades and Wolfenstein, and
Speaker 1: I kind of thought both of them were boring. So
Speaker 1: I'm looking for a new game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I'm playing. I mean, let me see.
Speaker 2: I got my my s fives up. I got just
Speaker 2: to kind of fill that nostalgia thing in my head.
Speaker 2: I found an old copy of like Black Ops three
Speaker 2: for the zombies, but.
Speaker 1: Let me Black Ops three, well yeah.
Speaker 2: Just for just for the god zombies. That's pretty much
Speaker 2: all I use it for. Let me see what I
Speaker 2: have pulled up here and have cued. I've been playing
Speaker 2: a lot more of like those games that have like
Speaker 2: really good like storytellings. I've been playing like I played
Speaker 2: Red Dead two and then I'm playing the new God
Speaker 2: of Wars the Last of Us.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, my my switch is my thing is broken. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm just playing on the switch. I'm probably gonna play
Speaker 1: the new the remastered paper Mario uh that I've heard.
Speaker 2: Good things about that, And I don't know. How did
Speaker 2: you have a Wii in your youth?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played on the GameCube a while ago. That's
Speaker 1: kind of one of the reasons I don't want to
Speaker 1: play it is I've played it so many times.
Speaker 2: But well, the switch the switch sports games are actually
Speaker 2: really fun.
Speaker 1: Man, I really might just I really might just abandon
Speaker 1: my life and play video games. That actually sounds pretty cool.
Speaker 1: You've inspired me.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I, like I said, I haven't abandoned
Speaker 2: my life. I mean that hasn't like effected like my
Speaker 2: work or anything. But if I'm not doing anything, I
Speaker 2: honestly feel like it's a hobby that a lot of
Speaker 2: people that may be a little bit older that don't
Speaker 2: have a hobby, they should really get into it, but
Speaker 2: they're just kind of too like what's the word that
Speaker 2: video games still have that stigma?
Speaker 1: What's your name again, Logan? Logan? Logan? Is there anything
Speaker 1: else you want to say to the people of the
Speaker 1: computer before we go?
Speaker 2: No, I hope you have a blast night and that
Speaker 2: one on the computer. Just keep gacking. That's all I got.
Speaker 1: Later, on brother later on, Man, this is therapy Gecko
Speaker 1: for IGN reviews. That sends for Internet Gecking Network. And
Speaker 1: then I give that call an eight out of ten.
Speaker 4: All from hey, my name's Florida, at least.
Speaker 2: Except Press one.
Speaker 1: Say hello, hey man, what's your name?
Speaker 4: My name's Connor, but all my buddies call me Florida.
Speaker 4: It's just I'm from there, but I moved out of state,
Speaker 4: and yeah, it's just a nickname.
Speaker 1: I go by Connor. What kind of phone are you on?
Speaker 1: You sound like you're on a megaphone.
Speaker 4: It's a Pixel seven pro So I don understand why
Speaker 4: it sounds so bad.
Speaker 2: So I got a I'll go ahead, you tell me
Speaker 2: what you got.
Speaker 4: So I kind of just got out of a. It
Speaker 4: was a healthy relationship, but it was for an odd
Speaker 4: reason why I got out of it. Lately, like ever
Speaker 4: since they dropped it, I've been addicted way too much
Speaker 4: to Fortnite Festival. Like it's it's super unhealthy. I'm putting
Speaker 4: like like I work a full time job. I love
Speaker 4: my job. I spent a lot of time off the road,
Speaker 4: you know, going to work coming back home, like an
Speaker 4: hour each way.
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: But like all My free time is strictly just Fortnight Festival.
Speaker 4: And I mean, like I've gotten good, I've gotten cracked
Speaker 4: at it?
Speaker 1: Ine, what is okay? I know what Fortnite is. What's
Speaker 1: Fortnite Festival?
Speaker 4: So you remember rock Band and Guitar Hero.
Speaker 1: Dude, they made a musical instrument game. That's Fortnite, baby, dude.
Speaker 4: It's it's fucking insane, I'm telling you, is it is insane?
Speaker 1: Is it? Do they have like the fake plastic instruments.
Speaker 4: They just introduced to guitar there's there's two versions and
Speaker 4: if you have the rock Band four or five I
Speaker 4: think controller, you can use it in the game. Right now.
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: So wait, is it a rhythm game? What is it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Completely, so it's basically it's a Guitar Hero ripoff, but
Speaker 1: it's Fortnite, not.
Speaker 4: Even no no, no, no no, So get this. The
Speaker 4: people that run Epic, I'm pretty sure that they got
Speaker 4: all your original development team of rock Band and hired
Speaker 4: them to Epic and said, y'all are gonna make rock Band,
Speaker 4: but put it in Fortnite because they got songs from
Speaker 4: rock Band and the chart, like the thing that you
Speaker 4: play on the instrument is directly taken from rock band.
Speaker 1: Dude, what I've never ever heard of this.
Speaker 4: It's crazy, I'm telling.
Speaker 1: You, And this is what you're doing with your life
Speaker 1: every day.
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, yeah, for the most part. Unfortunately, I've
Speaker 4: I mean I've never touched Fortnite before in my life
Speaker 4: at all. Okay, but the moment they dropped this, I do,
Speaker 4: I'm already like it's been I think it's been like
Speaker 4: six months they've had it out, and I'm already at
Speaker 4: three thousand hours. Man, all right, so much?
Speaker 1: Well, well, well, I don't know. Man, I play a
Speaker 1: lot of video games too. I love video games. Do
Speaker 1: you have a problem with your Fortnite festival usage? Do
Speaker 1: you think it's too much?
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what she said. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: like I you know, all day Saturday, I go out
Speaker 4: and do stuff with her, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: on my weekdays, that's the that's the time that I
Speaker 4: get to you know, chill, like I'm working, you know,
Speaker 4: nine hours maybe ten hours and an hour each way
Speaker 4: on the road, Like like what the fuck, let me
Speaker 4: do my thing. Whether you play my stupid little game
Speaker 4: on the computer, man, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do? You shoot people? In Fortnite Festival.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 4: It's just just clicking on the computer. It's just simple,
Speaker 4: dumb little songs. Man Like.
Speaker 1: Isn't that what Fortnite's about, isn't it. It's like if
Speaker 1: they made like Guitar Hero Call of Duty or something
Speaker 1: like that. It's doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4: Now, that'd be crazy.
Speaker 1: So why, how in what way is it Fortnite? I thought,
Speaker 1: I've never played Fortnite, but it's isn't it about like shooting?
Speaker 4: Nuh? It's so like the normal game. I think is
Speaker 4: I don't even play the normal game at all. I
Speaker 4: have no reason to. It just doesn't interest me. But
Speaker 4: I think it is. I just all I care about
Speaker 4: is playing little johnnyast sideboys get low on the dumb
Speaker 4: little keyboard. That's all I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and your girlfriend told you that she has a
Speaker 1: problem with it. What did she say exactly?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Ex dude, Ax.
Speaker 4: She broke up over it. Dude. She was screaming at
Speaker 4: me and everything, And I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 6: That was a little the.
Speaker 4: Long relationship too, And I'm like, I'm trying to understand
Speaker 4: that I'm not the bad guy here. I'm like Hey again.
Speaker 1: You know, this is super funny because last night I
Speaker 1: got a phone call from a guy and I'm actually,
Speaker 1: I'll probably gonna put these two in the same podcast.
Speaker 1: I got a phone call from a guy who his
Speaker 1: girlfriend told him that he was playing too much boulders
Speaker 1: Gate three and and he he I asked him. I
Speaker 1: was like, so, what did you do? And he said,
Speaker 1: I stopped playing. He basically said, he stopped playing as
Speaker 1: much and prioritized his girlfriend. And I'm glad to be
Speaker 1: talking to you because now we get to hear the
Speaker 1: perspective of somebody who did the exact opposite, and they
Speaker 1: were like, fuck this bitch, it's Fortnite festival, all day,
Speaker 1: all night.
Speaker 4: Like That's how I'm feeling. Because again, you know, like
Speaker 4: I said, that's just my weekdays. I spend all day Saturday,
Speaker 4: or I used to spend all day Saturday with her,
Speaker 4: and it's like, all right, you want to go do something.
Speaker 4: Let's go for a drive, you know, Like I got
Speaker 4: a nice little newer car that I run around in,
Speaker 4: little manual, you know, stick shift car. I enjoyed. I
Speaker 4: have fun, go at the mountains, you know, go hike.
Speaker 4: That's Saturday, you know, I'm like Saturday as we do that,
Speaker 4: but it's like the weekdays, you know, like I'm on
Speaker 4: one side of the city, she's on the other side
Speaker 4: of the city, and I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: You know, like, what's your what's your name? Again?
Speaker 2: So again i just go by Florida, Florida, that's my Yeah.
Speaker 1: Are you afraid of dying alone?
Speaker 2: No? No, God, No, No.
Speaker 4: I am a man. I am a man of God.
Speaker 4: I'm chilling me and God are cool. The day I die,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be like, I'm right up there with you, homie.
Speaker 1: So, how long ago did you break up with your
Speaker 1: girlfriend over a fortnite festival?
Speaker 4: This was like about a month and a half ago.
Speaker 4: I'm still just kind of pondering on before I get
Speaker 4: back on some dating apps and get back in its
Speaker 4: dating cool.
Speaker 1: Interesting. See, It's so funny because and I've been talking
Speaker 1: about this a lot that, like, I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of life is perspective, right because the guy beforehand,
Speaker 1: he told me, he was like, if my girlfriend left me,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't I couldn't imagine life without her,
Speaker 1: And so he just knew it was the right decision.
Speaker 1: But for you, you were like I can't imagine my life
Speaker 1: without Fortnite Festival. And both of you guys, regardless of
Speaker 1: the fact that you made different decisions, seem to be
Speaker 1: happy with your decisions, which I find interesting.
Speaker 4: I mean again, you know, like like I'm just some
Speaker 4: twenty five year old dude that's just enjoying life, you know,
Speaker 4: just chilling. I mean, I have a good job that
Speaker 4: pays me really well, and I mean, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: doing fine. It's just I won't lie. I've dumped a
Speaker 4: lot of money into songs on this gune because they're
Speaker 4: not geez.
Speaker 1: How much you tell me how much money you've spent
Speaker 1: on Fortnite Festival?
Speaker 4: I think over five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Man, what's your favorite song? And Fortnite Festival?
Speaker 4: Oh, one hundred percent of Little Johnny Sibelways get low
Speaker 4: and then second right onto that is it's lousy for
Speaker 4: techto tour life right there?
Speaker 1: What else? So okay, so you used to spend saturdays
Speaker 1: driving your girlfriend around in your car. What do you
Speaker 1: do on saturdays?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: What else is going on in your life?
Speaker 6: I mean?
Speaker 4: And now it's just you know, going hiking by myself
Speaker 4: and then whenever I'm you know, just home or whatnot.
Speaker 4: I pretty much kick back a couple of beers, maybe
Speaker 4: maybe open up a bottle of whiskey, and you know,
Speaker 4: get right back on the grind man. You know, I
Speaker 4: got to get a full complete on all the songs.
Speaker 4: I gotta get them perfect. It's it's a grind set.
Speaker 1: What did you say you did for work?
Speaker 4: So my job actually work in automotive industry. I paint cars.
Speaker 1: Oh cool man?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: How long you been doing that?
Speaker 4: Uh for a minute. I've been doing it for about
Speaker 4: like maybe four or five years.
Speaker 1: Are you Are you enjoying it?
Speaker 4: Oh? Dude, I love it. I love it. It's great.
Speaker 4: I mean it's a pain in the ass because you
Speaker 4: get some crazy people coming in with stupid things. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm just like tell me, you know, you're just paying
Speaker 4: me to do that. I'm like, I'm gonna do my job.
Speaker 1: You you say you you live in Florida, right? Is
Speaker 1: that why people call you Florida?
Speaker 4: So I'm from Florida, but I no longer reside there.
Speaker 4: It's just like, you know my character and who I am.
Speaker 4: I'm very much Florida man energy. So yeah, people just
Speaker 4: run with thinks. The nickname Florida and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, all right, where where are you now?
Speaker 4: Right now? I'm currently in New Mexico in Albuquerque.
Speaker 1: Oh cool, man, I funck with Albuquerque. It's a nice place.
Speaker 1: It's got a very like old Western kind of energy.
Speaker 4: Oh one percent, it does. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: it's it's a bit of a shit hold. Don't let
Speaker 4: anyone tell you any other way. But you know it works.
Speaker 4: It works.
Speaker 1: So tell me who the craziest person you have encountered
Speaker 1: in your line of work is.
Speaker 4: Oh, man, honestly, craziest wouldn't really do it, but more
Speaker 4: so craziest encounter. We were working on a vehicle that
Speaker 4: you know, got into an accident, and we were replacing
Speaker 4: some panels and whatnot. And as we were taking apart
Speaker 4: the panels, the previous people that worked on it just
Speaker 4: caked on all this you know, all this filler, bondo
Speaker 4: and whatnot. If I took my little air gun that
Speaker 4: I have, you know, the blows air, like really high
Speaker 4: compressed air, just sprayed it on the panel and like
Speaker 4: sheet We're talking like maybe inch quarter you know, inch
Speaker 4: and a quarter thick. It just bondo and paint just
Speaker 4: heeled off the whole thing and we told him. We're like, dude,
Speaker 4: like we got a replace that that's gotta be new,
Speaker 4: and he was like no, no, no, it's just make it
Speaker 4: like it was. And we're like, nah, now we are
Speaker 4: covering that. And then he got pissy about it and
Speaker 4: they're like, well, you know you signed this paper. I'm sorry, dude,
Speaker 4: here's your money back. Get the fuck out the shop.
Speaker 4: And he tried to leave a negative review and we're like, nah,
Speaker 4: they have that.
Speaker 1: You really do seem like a joyful man. That's why.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm go go ahead and go ahead.
Speaker 4: I'm a very happy person. I don't really have much
Speaker 4: to complain about.
Speaker 1: You do you sound like you? You sound like a
Speaker 1: very happy person. That's why I'm fascinated by you. I
Speaker 1: want to know more about you. I want to know
Speaker 1: more about why you're so happy.
Speaker 4: I again, I mean that's something of where I got
Speaker 4: to give it all right back to my man JC
Speaker 4: up above, you know really, I mean, yeah, dude, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I've been chill with him. I've been chill with him
Speaker 4: for a while. You know. Once I found my face,
Speaker 4: I I really haven't been able to look back. And
Speaker 4: I've just been happy since, you know, if I get mad,
Speaker 4: I give it all to God. And I'm like, all right,
Speaker 4: what have I got to do? When you told me?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, all right, got it.
Speaker 1: That's kind of nice. That's kind of nice having a
Speaker 1: guy tell you what to do and being like, I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy's fucking God. Of course I'm gonna listen to
Speaker 1: this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what does he.
Speaker 1: Tell you to do?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's all dependent on what's happening at that moment.
Speaker 4: I mean, like with the recent breakup, it's a matter
Speaker 4: of it. You know, you're telling me, like you just
Speaker 4: need to move on, you need to let it go,
Speaker 4: and I'm like I have a hard time letting you go.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I'm more so, what did
Speaker 4: I do wrong? Did I do anything wrong? Is it
Speaker 4: bad that I you know, prioritize it on the weekdays
Speaker 4: just because that's my you know, cool down from life
Speaker 4: or you know, what's what's happening. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: like like let's say, you know, one of the shops
Speaker 4: I'm at closes down, because you know, collision side is
Speaker 4: a finicky industry. If it's a mom and pop shop,
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, where do I got to go? Next,
Speaker 4: and then I remember, Yeah, the industry I'm in just
Speaker 4: needs people. I can just apply for somewhere else and
Speaker 4: go there. So I mean, for the most part, I'm
Speaker 4: pretty much, you know, set on a career and set.
Speaker 4: I'm living and I'm just chilling. Every day is a
Speaker 4: new day. But I'm kind of I'm kind of getting
Speaker 4: a little like what's concerning though, is like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: twenty five, all right, and you know, being a man
Speaker 4: of God, Like whenever I have the time and there's
Speaker 4: artist that comes into town, like you know, dance music,
Speaker 4: we're talking like techno. You know that we're talking that,
Speaker 4: you know, like I'm trying to find someone that you know,
Speaker 4: is willing to go to that stuff and not get
Speaker 4: higher than a kid off of some MDMA.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're killing Yeah, no, sure, you're looking for sober
Speaker 1: party buddies.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it's like that's.
Speaker 1: No more man, whatddy hold on? Hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: I want to stop here with there. I am. I
Speaker 1: feel very confident that that exists in places that you
Speaker 1: could find really yeah where hold on? What makes you
Speaker 1: so sure that doesn't exist?
Speaker 4: I mean a lot of techno events and like EDM
Speaker 4: festivals and whatnot. I see that stuff just flow around,
Speaker 4: and I'm like I have to kind of go in there,
Speaker 4: assuming that you know everyone.
Speaker 1: I've there's I've I've talked to like plenty of people
Speaker 1: who are who are sober ravers. That is absolutely is
Speaker 1: absolutely you are not the There is definitely a sober
Speaker 1: raver archetype who's like just there for the scene and
Speaker 1: the music.
Speaker 4: Dang. I mean, I guess we just I guess like
Speaker 4: this community or very small community just needs a way
Speaker 4: to get in touch with each other because it's it's crazy, man,
Speaker 4: Like it's such a small world and it's so hard
Speaker 4: to find anything.
Speaker 1: Do you go to Do you go to church?
Speaker 4: Of course? Of course?
Speaker 1: Tell me about church. Do you have a lot of
Speaker 1: friends in the in the church? I?
Speaker 4: Yes? And no. I mean so like like I said,
Speaker 4: I'm from Florida, all right, and like the part that
Speaker 4: I'm from Florida AD is like super super super deep
Speaker 4: in religion, you know, in Christianity, and where I moved
Speaker 4: to like out out here in Albuquerque there just really
Speaker 4: isn't like I've jumped around here trying to find something
Speaker 4: that's you know, the similar kind of vibe and nothing's
Speaker 4: really been able to match it. So I mean I'm
Speaker 4: enjoying it. It's it, but finding that like group that
Speaker 4: I can click with is just really hard.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. When did you first like get into into God.
Speaker 1: Was it something that was like part of your life
Speaker 1: for your whole life or did you kind of get
Speaker 1: into it later?
Speaker 4: So something that like born and raised, you know, this
Speaker 4: part of Florida, and then I left and moved, you know,
Speaker 4: to a different state and then came back to Florida.
Speaker 4: And my someone I now see as a very close friend,
Speaker 4: someone I borderline called family. Uh, he's the one that
Speaker 4: brought me to faith. And that was like when I
Speaker 4: was maybe rick twenty. So yeah, yeah, it's not necessarily
Speaker 4: been recent, but you know, as like actual I guess
Speaker 4: you'd say story arc wise like self story arc wise.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's fresh, but definitely vibing with it.
Speaker 1: Cool man. As far as finding friends, I mean, I
Speaker 1: always dude, like, bro, just gone. If if you don't
Speaker 1: see that community already existing, you can just go create it, man.
Speaker 1: Go on Instagram, go on Facebook, go on TikTok, be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for other people who enjoy going to raves
Speaker 1: and being sober and people one hundred percent, people will,
Speaker 1: people will will join Dude. There's all these websites, there's
Speaker 1: meet up fucking Facebook groups, there's you just have to
Speaker 1: be the one to start it. That's the tay is
Speaker 1: if you're looking around and you're like, where are these people?
Speaker 1: Where is this thing? I want to say, you just
Speaker 1: be the one to start it. Dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's definitely a solid idea. I for
Speaker 4: a minute I was living out in Phoenix. That was
Speaker 4: just like I said, that was a short minute, and
Speaker 4: I you know, found some people out there that I
Speaker 4: clicked with, you know, that seemed to be really cool.
Speaker 4: And next thing, you know, I found out that they
Speaker 4: didn't necessarily like some things and did some other things,
Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, no, I need to separate
Speaker 4: myself from that. That's not okay. But coming out here
Speaker 4: to Albuquerque is like you talk about going from you know,
Speaker 4: a huge ocean to like a lake. You're like, wow,
Speaker 4: the pool out here is way smaller than I anticipate.
Speaker 1: So well, hey, you said you're gonna get back on.
Speaker 2: The apps, right, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, have you.
Speaker 1: Have you ever actually done Christian Mingle because everyone like
Speaker 1: makes jokes about Christian mingle, but I've never talked to
Speaker 1: anyone who's actually been on that.
Speaker 4: So that's for as much as I hate saying it,
Speaker 4: that how I feel that's more for the older demographics.
Speaker 4: And I'm not talking like, you know, millennials. I'm talking
Speaker 4: more like, you know, a little bit older, maybe someone
Speaker 4: in there, you know, mid thirties, which I understand is
Speaker 4: still millennial, but someone in their mid thirties or later.
Speaker 4: But the younger demographics, there's another one. It's called Upward,
Speaker 4: and I mean I was on it for a minute
Speaker 4: out in Phoenix, but I decided to get off of
Speaker 4: that just because the whole rumor about Christians being super
Speaker 4: judgmental was really real. Like that interesting, it's painful.
Speaker 1: Can can I hear some of the interactions that you
Speaker 1: had on there that you felt fed into that idea
Speaker 1: that that people were judgmental?
Speaker 4: So like again, you know that that's that's funny enough.
Speaker 4: That's how I actually met my ex, and you know,
Speaker 4: right off of the bat we clicked it really really well.
Speaker 4: You know, she was someone that was willing to go
Speaker 4: to you know, those kind of raves and whatnot, and
Speaker 4: we would go do that. That was a Saturday thing
Speaker 4: as well. But then it's like, oh hey again, apparently
Speaker 4: that's the toxic trait of saying I just want to play,
Speaker 4: you know, a game with the boys. You know, got
Speaker 4: to do it for the boys. And uh, I mean next,
Speaker 4: you know, she's judging me, telling me that, you know,
Speaker 4: oh that's you know round, you're spending way too much
Speaker 4: time in front of a computer screen. And I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 4: but who's the one that's you know, paying for us
Speaker 4: to go out and do all this, you know. But
Speaker 4: another thing that I know this is like what you're wearing,
Speaker 4: you know, like a simple thing like oh, you're wearing
Speaker 4: this clothing from this place. Like again, I paint cars.
Speaker 4: I'm blue collar, so I wear you know, some wranglers
Speaker 4: and whatnot. And next thing you know, they're like, hey,
Speaker 4: I want you to dress like some European guys, wanting
Speaker 4: me to go put on this clothes from Target. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's not me.
Speaker 3: You know, that's not me.
Speaker 4: I don't wear Target clothes. That shit's not comfortable.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hm. Upwards, what's the craziest message you've gotten
Speaker 1: on Upwards? Because I I do wonder because I guess
Speaker 1: like a hinge and tender and stuff. There's there's crazy stuff,
Speaker 1: but I do kind of want to run on upwards,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 4: Some of them are fair, like I mean, like really feral.
Speaker 4: It's uh, you'd think that with them being Christians, that
Speaker 4: they're on, you know, a nicer side of you know,
Speaker 4: not necessarily celibacy, but being tame. I guess can say,
Speaker 4: like in a more self desire kind of way. Nah,
Speaker 4: there are some of them that just they just want
Speaker 4: another guy and they want kids right out the bat.
Speaker 4: And I just look at them. I'm like, hey, no.
Speaker 3: No, that is not.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 1: When you say feral, you don't mean like trying to
Speaker 1: have like a bunch of casual sex like they're they're
Speaker 1: they're like feral in the way of like put a
Speaker 1: baby in me right now, Let's have tons and tons
Speaker 1: of sex specifically for procreation, as God would intend.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, It's uh, it's it's a bit terrible fine.
Speaker 1: Has anyone ever like first line out of the gate,
Speaker 1: like first message to you, Hey, would you like to
Speaker 1: have sex and have a child?
Speaker 4: Not right out the bat? No that nah, that hasn't
Speaker 4: happened yet. And I'm zigful. It hasn't, but definitely on
Speaker 4: a first date some of them have, you know, said
Speaker 4: that they want to be married and potentially I have
Speaker 4: a kid within like the next two months.
Speaker 1: That's a very interesting it's a very interesting specific kind
Speaker 1: of horny where you're specifically so horny for the purposes
Speaker 1: of breeding a child. That's very different from the tender horny,
Speaker 1: but still a different a variation of horny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, at one hundred percent is I mean, I've
Speaker 4: tried to be on Tender and Bumble and I mean,
Speaker 4: out of all the crowds on dating apps that seem
Speaker 4: the most tame, I'm gonna say it's probably the Bumble
Speaker 4: crowd because at least there, you know, you can see, oh,
Speaker 4: are they there just for a hookup? Or are there
Speaker 4: for there for a potential you know, long run or
Speaker 4: what's happening?
Speaker 1: So are you are you?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you celibate?
Speaker 4: Uh? No, no, no.
Speaker 3: That's.
Speaker 1: But you don't cut.
Speaker 4: Oh I have I already have a bunch of times
Speaker 4: on this.
Speaker 1: I mean you I heard I you know what, You're right?
Speaker 1: You did let a few fricks slip out.
Speaker 4: The fricks. No, I've said ship and fuck a couple
Speaker 4: of times, I'm not afraid to slayer.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, maybe you did. Maybe you did. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say I'm not afraid to slur, but no, you did.
Speaker 1: You let a few uh a few rip.
Speaker 4: I I understand how you know, you have a you
Speaker 4: have a face and a business. You need to you know,
Speaker 4: keep straight. So I understand your side of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's your dream in life?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Did we talk about that already? Uh?
Speaker 4: No? My dream is I really have a passion for
Speaker 4: just old cars, and like not so much American cars.
Speaker 4: I worked on those before, but more so just old
Speaker 4: foreign cars from anywhere, and I just want to be
Speaker 4: able to like rebuild them and restore them all while
Speaker 4: having my own plot of land and you know, just
Speaker 4: have like a you know, little farmhouse with a shop,
Speaker 4: and you know, just do my thing, make what I
Speaker 4: want to make, and then sell it. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: it's definitely going to be hard to do. But whenever
Speaker 4: you understand, you know, the vehicle that you want to
Speaker 4: work on in specific and how it wants to come out,
Speaker 4: and you understand the demographic of the people that also
Speaker 4: like that vehicle, you quickly understand how much people will
Speaker 4: will essentially buy it for and what that demographic wants
Speaker 4: out of that car.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you got you got the business all in
Speaker 1: your brain, sir.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's not cheap.
Speaker 4: It is not a cheap, cheap endeavor.
Speaker 1: Maybe you need to do some kind of Christian GoFundMe.
Speaker 4: Ah nah nah, no, shot, that wouldn't work, not a
Speaker 4: million years.
Speaker 1: Uh. Florida, Florida, Florida, Florida. Well, Florida. This was a
Speaker 1: good I enjoyed having this, this conversation. Uh, it is
Speaker 1: very funny the contrast between all right, your call and
Speaker 1: the previous call. But yet you you both seem very
Speaker 1: happy with your lives, and I think that that's uh,
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I I do appreciate you hearing me out.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't realize, but getting another I guess
Speaker 4: to say aspect on this subject.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go Florida?
Speaker 4: Can I say something about side chat?
Speaker 1: About side chat like the twitch chat? Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just give some weight before you say anything.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give some context because a lot of people
Speaker 1: are listening to this on the audio version, and I
Speaker 1: think I don't know if they have ever thought about
Speaker 1: where these calls come from. But I stream on Twitch.
Speaker 1: If you've never, if you've just listened to this on
Speaker 1: the podcast, I stream on Twitch kind of. I used
Speaker 1: to do it on a schedule. Now I just kind
Speaker 1: of do it whenever I fucking feel like it. And
Speaker 1: so when people are talking about the chat, they're referring
Speaker 1: to the live Twitch chat that occurs while I'm taking
Speaker 1: these phone calls. So go ahead say something. You can
Speaker 1: say something about the side chat.
Speaker 4: I just gotta say that like a lot of people
Speaker 4: there actually know what's really going on. I mean, some
Speaker 4: of them under Dan. I saw a couple of guys
Speaker 4: talk about rave, a raving environment being a little toxic,
Speaker 4: and it's definitely true. And you know, someone was trying
Speaker 4: to compare Christian being Christian and being a Catholic, and
Speaker 4: you know, Christians stay on top. Man, We're just built different,
Speaker 4: you know, that's all. You know. I gotta gotta give
Speaker 4: it all up to g man up there. You know.
Speaker 1: That's cool. I thought you were gonna when you said,
Speaker 1: can I say something about the side chat? I thought
Speaker 1: you were gonna say there were all a bunch of bastards.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad I some are.
Speaker 4: But you know what, this is the tamous side st
Speaker 4: I've ever seen on a twitch.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to hear that, man, I'm happy to hear that. Well,
Speaker 1: God bless you, sir, have a the rest of the night. Hey,
Speaker 1: then I'm going I'm gonna try to visit. Uh. I
Speaker 1: wish synagogue was was cool like churches. Well they don't.
Speaker 1: We don't know. We sing, we sing a little bit.
Speaker 4: I mean it's honestly, ma'am. Like like I've studied and
Speaker 4: you know, all the Abrahamic religions, just you know, out
Speaker 4: of boredom trying to understand it. And I have so
Speaker 4: much respect for you know, Jewish people, man, I really do.
Speaker 4: Like it's there's a lot, a lot of respect to
Speaker 4: be had there in every way.
Speaker 1: Hey, lie am to you, sir, have a good rest
Speaker 1: of the night.
Speaker 4: Hey may you as well.
Speaker 1: But Florida, Florida, Florida. A man so of the state
Speaker 1: that he has decided to adopt it as his moniker.
Speaker 1: What is your name, sir?
Speaker 3: My name is Ron.
Speaker 1: Ron. How's life It's going pretty good?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 3: Just living life? Just h yeah, do you want me
Speaker 3: to like tell you what I told you over text
Speaker 3: or yeah. So I got put into foster care when
Speaker 3: I was ten, and basically what happened was I got
Speaker 3: taken from my dad when I was younger, and I
Speaker 3: got put into foster care, and I had this opportunity
Speaker 3: to get like a make a Wish And it's kind
Speaker 3: of funny. It was like all these kids who got
Speaker 3: taken away in all these bad situations, and you know,
Speaker 3: these people come over and they're like, hey, what do
Speaker 3: you want. I'm like, oh man, what do I want?
Speaker 3: And they're like, uh, you got anything in the world,
Speaker 3: what do you want? All I wrote down on this
Speaker 3: piece of paper was coloring pencils and I was just
Speaker 3: like coloring pencils and they're like, sorry, I'm so nervous.
Speaker 3: They didn't expect you to call me.
Speaker 1: They must have been, honestly, like I gotta imagine the
Speaker 1: Make a Wish people when they get something easy, are
Speaker 1: pretty stoked, you know. No, so like you did them
Speaker 1: a favor by asking for colored pencils instead of being like,
Speaker 1: oh fuck, now we got because you know, it's way
Speaker 1: easier to get colored pencils than to get like John
Speaker 1: Cena on the phone.
Speaker 3: No no, so no so so it was really funny.
Speaker 3: So they're like, okay, coloring pencils, right, and I'm and
Speaker 3: they're like, okay, we're gonna get you some coloring pencils. So, like,
Speaker 3: you know, like a month goes by and these people
Speaker 3: pick me up and they bring me to this like
Speaker 3: convention center and it's all these kids who are going
Speaker 3: through foster care kind of like going through a bad
Speaker 3: situation in life. M and I get there and they
Speaker 3: hand me a coloring pencils and there's like I don't know,
Speaker 3: like maybe fifty kids at this convention center that are
Speaker 3: kind of going through this, like, you know, not a
Speaker 3: great situation. They're trying to cheer them up with these
Speaker 3: like presents that they asked for, and of course I
Speaker 3: get coloring pencils, and I'm like super stoked about it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, man color. But everybody else around me they're
Speaker 3: getting like xboxes and yeah, PlayStations and four wheelers, and
Speaker 3: I'm just like, I don't know, it was like a
Speaker 3: humble Like I think back to it and I'm like
Speaker 3: at the time, I was like, it's just coloring pencils.
Speaker 3: Now you've stoked you thought about this color and no,
Speaker 3: and that's exactly and that's what I want. I was like,
Speaker 3: I gotta tell the story because I was like, I
Speaker 3: really screwed myself thinking back to it, like this kid
Speaker 3: didn't know what he was asking for. Why didn't they
Speaker 3: tell him, like, oh, you can ask for it literally anything?
Speaker 3: And when I asked, they're like, oh, yeah, coloring pencils. That, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's totally fine. That's chill. Well we'll write that down,
Speaker 3: you know, we'll get you some coloring pencils. But like
Speaker 3: I show up and these people are getting like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like PlayStation's, xboxes, four wheelers, like anything that they asked.
Speaker 1: For, you know, honestly, bro honestly, even an Xbox. It's
Speaker 1: like if they like, how old were you ten?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I was ten at the time.
Speaker 1: They asked to literally, I mean to promise a kid
Speaker 1: literally anything. There's no way that's a dangerous thing to
Speaker 1: say literally anything, because what if they want something crazy?
Speaker 1: What if they what if you had said I want
Speaker 1: a ten million dollars cash and they say, well we
Speaker 1: can't do that, you could be like you was fucking
Speaker 1: said literally anything, Like don't say literally do they even
Speaker 1: I actually I'm very curious about how this process works.
Speaker 1: Do they say you can have literally anything or do
Speaker 1: they say you can have something that you want within
Speaker 1: reason because that's what they mean.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not really sure, but like when I when
Speaker 3: I should so, like I said, there was like this
Speaker 3: convention center. There's like maybe fifty kids there that are
Speaker 3: kind of like going through a bad situation, maybe like
Speaker 3: not the greatest situation. They're either the parents did or
Speaker 3: like like yeah, just not a great situation. And I mean,
Speaker 3: like I think I saw four wheelers. I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't know what the like limit to this was, but
Speaker 3: all I know was that I really screwed myself by
Speaker 3: asking for just coloring pencils.
Speaker 1: What did you do with the coloring pencils?
Speaker 3: I think I bought some some coloring sheets and I
Speaker 3: did some some coloring sheets. I think they were like
Speaker 3: bugs life at the time.
Speaker 1: Maybe oh man, yeah, you could have been partying with
Speaker 1: hookers and your coloring.
Speaker 3: And I was coloring books at ten years old. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was pretty pretty rough. But I'm just like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, if I had opportunity to go back, what
Speaker 3: would I ask for?
Speaker 1: But that's a good question. That's a good question. What
Speaker 1: would you ask for if you had the opportunity to
Speaker 1: go back.
Speaker 3: I don't know, probably Xbox or something cooler than coloring pencils.
Speaker 3: Like you said, maybe ask for an ungodly amount of money.
Speaker 1: But so how old are you now?
Speaker 3: I'm twenty three.
Speaker 1: And how's your life going after being out of the
Speaker 1: out of the foster care system?
Speaker 3: Now, I would say it's pretty complicated, man, Like, so
Speaker 3: like I got taken away at ten, I think, And
Speaker 3: it's sad because I think a lot of kids go
Speaker 3: through this, Like I think like living like this, you see,
Speaker 3: like the world, at least the United States, a lot
Speaker 3: of kids are put through that. But I was luckily
Speaker 3: adopted when I was eleven, and uh, and I got
Speaker 3: into a good situation and it was pretty nice, like
Speaker 3: getting out of fastic care because you see all the
Speaker 3: kids that didn't and I had like a pretty good
Speaker 3: opportunity in life. And I'm chilling. I'm just living life,
Speaker 3: and I think I have a pretty stable life compared
Speaker 3: to some people who have been through the same situation.
Speaker 1: Tell me about your stable life. Do you have a
Speaker 1: Do you have a job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so right now I'm doing plumbing and I've been
Speaker 3: doing it for like two years.
Speaker 6: So yeah, your friends, Yeah, no, I've got a pretty
Speaker 6: good social circle, like just like three or four good
Speaker 6: friends that I chill with, and yeah, I mean like
Speaker 6: I feel like they're a good support system because like
Speaker 6: most people in my life, you know, not really used
Speaker 6: to chaos life.
Speaker 3: You know, kids have gone through foster care. I think
Speaker 3: they need a lot of a lot of support and
Speaker 3: a lot of different helps and so like having your
Speaker 3: good community has helped me out, like I don't know,
Speaker 3: stay balanced and.
Speaker 1: Are you still cool with anyone in your family?
Speaker 3: That's funny that you ask about that. So like my family,
Speaker 3: Like I don't really talk to my family a whole lot,
Speaker 3: but recently I talked to my mom, who I hadn't
Speaker 3: talked to for thirteen years. I recently called her and
Speaker 3: when visitor, she was like a few times away, and
Speaker 3: it was a it was an interesting experience. It's kind
Speaker 3: of like, I don't know, you lose touch with those
Speaker 3: people and they're like, you know, you grow up and
Speaker 3: you have these memories of who they are and now
Speaker 3: they're different people. And I don't know, in what.
Speaker 1: Way is your mom different from when you knew her.
Speaker 3: It's like you grow up looking up to your parents
Speaker 3: and like they like at least this was for me.
Speaker 3: This was for me. You look up to them and
Speaker 3: they're like these like amazing people and everything that they
Speaker 3: did in your life was like the right thing, right.
Speaker 3: But for me, like after I got adopted, it is
Speaker 3: like revealed, like you know, she's doing all these like
Speaker 3: things that like maybe a good parent wouldn't be doing,
Speaker 3: and you start like unveiling that in and you start
Speaker 3: realizing who they are. And so as you get older,
Speaker 3: like being twenty three, now you can look back at
Speaker 3: the things that they had done and your oh, man,
Speaker 3: you know, a good parent wouldn't be doing that like
Speaker 3: a I don't know, like selling drugs out of the
Speaker 3: house while all the kids were there and I don't know,
Speaker 3: stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And so what her today? How do you view her?
Speaker 1: Like when you guys, when you guys met, did you
Speaker 1: have a good impression of her? Did you get along?
Speaker 1: How is that meeting?
Speaker 3: I guess it was kind of uncomfortable, you know, Like
Speaker 3: it's like, like I said, it's like a stranger someone
Speaker 3: you haven't talked to in twelve years, and it's not
Speaker 3: anybody you don't I guess I didn't have any expectations.
Speaker 3: Maybe someone you want in your life, you know you're
Speaker 3: missing something, and then you meet them and it's just like,
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's like that piece is still missing
Speaker 3: because this person's a stranger to you. You don't know
Speaker 3: anything about them.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting. It's like, Okay, maybe this familial connection
Speaker 1: is missing from my life, but even though you do
Speaker 1: reconnect with your mom, the connection's still missing because she's
Speaker 1: like a stranger.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Interesting. So, uh, do you have siblings?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So I have five siblings and I'm the middle sibling.
Speaker 1: And so are you cool with them?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: Like? Kind of they're all very they live different lives,
Speaker 3: you know, like they've taken different life courses they've I
Speaker 3: don't know, Like I feel like like I got adopted
Speaker 3: with two of my other siblings, the two middle siblings
Speaker 3: and my youngest siblings she lived got adopted by someone else,
Speaker 3: and my oldest at the time, she was old enough
Speaker 3: to not be adopted. She so she went on and like,
Speaker 3: I haven't talked to the oldest in a while, but
Speaker 3: my two middle siblings, I feel like we have good
Speaker 3: communication that they all like, I don't know, they're like
Speaker 3: very until rebelling and like they're like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: they're just I don't I think they're just trying to
Speaker 3: figure out life and I'm like the most stable person
Speaker 3: in my family when it comes to that, they're like
Speaker 3: experimenting with drugs and like, I don't know, I feel
Speaker 3: like sometimes they try to find the uh rock bottom.
Speaker 3: They just keep digging, and I don't know, I guess
Speaker 3: that's the way to put it.
Speaker 1: Maybe they need some colored pencils.
Speaker 3: Ye, that's what I That's what I'm saying because I'm
Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't remember what they asked for,
Speaker 3: because I assume it was something similar because they were
Speaker 3: probably because the two siblings that I got adopted with
Speaker 3: were invited to this, and I think they basically asked
Speaker 3: for something similar, and they probably think back to that
Speaker 3: moment and like, why did I ask just for coloring pencils?
Speaker 1: I you know what you should really they should do
Speaker 1: a study and they should take all the kids who
Speaker 1: did the make a wish and you know, take the
Speaker 1: colored pencil kids and compare them with the PlayStation kids
Speaker 1: and see whose life ended up better. I feel like
Speaker 1: the colored pencil kids ended up being more stable than
Speaker 1: the PlayStation kids. If I had to make a hypothesis
Speaker 1: based off of that, nothing.
Speaker 3: I mean that that's an interesting theory. Maybe yeah, maybe
Speaker 3: they're like, you know, they were more like grateful at
Speaker 3: the time. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you still color? Do you still have the colored pencils?
Speaker 3: I don't have those coloring pencils, but I do on
Speaker 3: occasion color not coloring books. I prefer to, you know,
Speaker 3: due to my own things. But yeah, yeah, I guess
Speaker 3: it has inspired me to be more of an artist.
Speaker 1: Uh, but do you have what are your aspirations for
Speaker 1: your for your life?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: Now that now that you're in a stable place, where
Speaker 1: do you where do you want to go from here?
Speaker 3: Man, it's a big question. I was not prepared for
Speaker 3: this call at all. I wasn't thinking about it when
Speaker 3: you called it camp. But now my aspirations I think,
Speaker 3: like maybe just like traveling more in seeing the world.
Speaker 3: You know, I've traveled a little bit here and there,
Speaker 3: but I feel like being stuck in the States. It's like,
Speaker 3: you know, you only get one view of the world world,
Speaker 3: and so traveling you can you know, it opens up
Speaker 3: the world to you. Seeing the world from a different perspective.
Speaker 1: That's cool. If you're if you're in a if you're
Speaker 1: a Make a Wish kid and you're ten years old
Speaker 1: and you say that your wishes to go to North Korea,
Speaker 1: do you think they'll do it? That'd be kind I
Speaker 1: feel like Kim Jong UN's probably not very like if
Speaker 1: he got a call and they were like, this, a
Speaker 1: very sick boy who wants to see your great nation.
Speaker 1: I bet I bet he'd take that. I bet I
Speaker 1: bet he could. That might tug at his heartstrings a
Speaker 1: little bit. And he'd show you around all the artificial
Speaker 1: homes they have there and all that shit.
Speaker 3: No, that'd be pretty cool. We could go see the
Speaker 3: Rocket Man and see that giant hotel that they built
Speaker 3: that's empty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could spend the night there. Now, that didn't
Speaker 1: even give you a poster to take home, so you
Speaker 1: don't have to rip one off the walls and get
Speaker 1: sentenced to death.
Speaker 3: But that would be kind of an experience, you know.
Speaker 1: It would be. And yet you chose colored pencils, and
Speaker 1: you know what, looking back on it, honestly, honestly, can
Speaker 1: I say something to you? Yeah, I don't think you
Speaker 1: should be so regretful of the colored pencils, because here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Regret all right, it's kind of useless because
Speaker 1: you made the decision that you could with however dumb
Speaker 1: your brain was at the time. Whether you're ten and
Speaker 1: you make a dumn decision or you're thirty five and
Speaker 1: you make a dumb decision, you're only working with what
Speaker 1: your brain is capable of at that very moment. You're
Speaker 1: only working with your thoughts and feelings and experiences at
Speaker 1: that time. You if you couldn't have decided any differently,
Speaker 1: even if you fucking wanted to, because that was just
Speaker 1: what your brain. It was just you making a decision
Speaker 1: based on what you had at the time. So there's
Speaker 1: no point in regretting that colored pencil decision. And you
Speaker 1: know what, fuck it, you got the color. It's pretty good.
Speaker 4: That's true. That's true.
Speaker 3: Like what else could I ask where that would have
Speaker 3: been any better?
Speaker 1: That would you could have? Damned maybe you could have
Speaker 1: colored a little picture of yourself and Kim Jong un
Speaker 1: holding hands and then showed it to the make a
Speaker 1: Wish people and been like, can I get two wishes? Wait?
Speaker 1: What if you can you wish for us? There's gotta
Speaker 1: be some smart ass cancer kid who at one point
Speaker 1: wished for unlimited wishes.
Speaker 3: No, I'm sure that happened. I feel like I didn't know, man,
Speaker 3: if I had thought about it. Maybe they're like a genie.
Speaker 3: You know, you can't just wish for more wishes.
Speaker 1: They did this on South Park already, But I wonder
Speaker 1: if it's happened in real life. Do you think any
Speaker 1: of the kids have ever wished to not die?
Speaker 4: No, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that's happened. I don't know how you would
Speaker 3: answer a child. I'm like, well that sucks. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know, man, that's a good thinking.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 1: What's your name again?
Speaker 3: My name is Ron, Ron.
Speaker 2: Ron.
Speaker 1: You have such a you speak so softly.
Speaker 3: You caught me like, right as soon as I was
Speaker 3: crawling in a bed, that's what I was like. I
Speaker 3: answer it. Damn it, dude, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I didn't preap for this properly.
Speaker 1: But well, well all right, well, before we end the call,
Speaker 1: I'll say this to you, Ron, as part of my
Speaker 1: Gecko Wish program, you can have anything you want within reason.
Speaker 1: How can I how can I get you a wish
Speaker 1: before we go, Oh, man.
Speaker 3: I don't have a dad. Geko, will you be my dad?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: How would that work?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I can, I'll be your dad. I'll
Speaker 3: be your dad. Okay, can that be my wish?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sure, okay, I'm gonna look at you as a father figure.
Speaker 1: Now that's cool. Do you how how can I be
Speaker 1: the best father to you?
Speaker 3: Shoot that that's a mm hmm. I just bring back
Speaker 3: the milk, I guess.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, do you want to sing you a
Speaker 1: song while you go into bed at night? You're about
Speaker 1: to go out?
Speaker 3: You right? Yeah? Now I'll call him in bed when
Speaker 3: you called me.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll come over to your house. I'll tuck you in.
Speaker 3: Sounds good man?
Speaker 1: Well all right, I'll see you soon.
Speaker 3: Awesome, Thanks Greg, take care brother.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna fuck your mom goes on the line
Speaker 1: every night, teach