Speaker 1: Wow. Today's guest has a really, really especially interesting life.
Speaker 1: She is knighted, her mother was a prisoner of war.
Speaker 1: She's involved with all kinds of causes as had a
Speaker 1: incredible career as an actress. So many, so many interesting
Speaker 1: life experiences. Today's guest is the fabulous Jane Seymour. So
Speaker 1: lean in. I think you're going to enjoy this. I'm
Speaker 1: very very excited to be here today with Jane Seymour,
Speaker 1: the iconic Jane Seymour. First off, Jane, let me apologize
Speaker 1: for my technical ineptitude. I usually am so good at
Speaker 1: getting these things dialed in, but for some reason today
Speaker 1: you were very very patient to sit there and wait
Speaker 1: for me to work out my knucklehead gear. Here, I'm
Speaker 1: as I just said to you, I'm on the road
Speaker 1: in a hotel room, and where are you? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this beautiful background.
Speaker 2: I'm at home, and yes, it's my living room, and
Speaker 2: I think behind me is a painting of two of everything.
Speaker 2: I think I got left in Bali a million years ago,
Speaker 2: but then I had twins, so I've kept it up
Speaker 2: there in two of everything.
Speaker 1: Ah, that's great, So you have twins. How old are your.
Speaker 2: Twins almost twenty eight. Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow? And how many children do you have?
Speaker 2: Four that I gave birth to and six that I
Speaker 2: helped raise total.
Speaker 1: Very very little known fact. My mother was a twin,
Speaker 1: as was as is my brother's wife. So my brother Michael,
Speaker 1: who I'm in a band with, married a twin, and
Speaker 1: our mom was a twin. And I'll never forget. I
Speaker 1: was a child and I had never met my aunt,
Speaker 1: and she lived in a ranch in californ and we
Speaker 1: grew up in the city in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. And one
Speaker 1: day I woke up and as I'm coming downstairs into
Speaker 1: the living room, I see this woman that's sitting on
Speaker 1: the couch and it's not my mother, but it looks
Speaker 1: exactly like my mother. And nobody, nobody had told me
Speaker 1: about this, Like I didn't know anything. It totally freaked
Speaker 1: me out such a why would you? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just that no one, no one really warm. I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody ever told. But this was the difference
Speaker 1: was that she had lipstick on and my mother never
Speaker 1: wore a lipstick, and that and I So I've always
Speaker 1: had this kind of odd sort of relationship. Boy, I've
Speaker 1: gone way too deep into this. How are you? How
Speaker 1: are you? I'm very well, Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: being here. So tell me where where did you grow up?
Speaker 2: I grew up in Merton Park. It's very close to Wimbledon.
Speaker 2: I was born in Hillingdon, Middlesex, so between Merton Park
Speaker 2: and then Hillingdon, Middlesex, which is basically pretty close to
Speaker 2: the airport in London. London.
Speaker 1: Yes, and when did you come to the States.
Speaker 2: I came permanently in seventy six and i'd been out
Speaker 2: for when I had been filming, and I have been
Speaker 2: told in England that I could only play exotics. I
Speaker 2: don't know what that was all about, and that I
Speaker 2: didn't look or sound like the girl next door. And
Speaker 2: a wonderful casting director in America had met me and said,
Speaker 2: if you can come to America and news your English accent,
Speaker 2: you'll never stop working. So I just thought, oh, I'll
Speaker 2: come to America. But it wasn't that easy. I didn't
Speaker 2: have a work permit, I had a visitor's visa, and
Speaker 2: my agent asked me to leave because he said it
Speaker 2: was the worst mistake of my life. And I had
Speaker 2: six weeks in which to make it. And I'm still here.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing. You know, eighteen seventy six was was
Speaker 1: a big year for me because that's when I decided
Speaker 1: to pack my bags as a kid in Philadelphia and
Speaker 1: go to New York and try to become an actor.
Speaker 2: Really too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know what your feeling was a
Speaker 1: lot of people, I mean, when you were in you
Speaker 1: came to California, right, and I was moving to New York.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people have said to me, what
Speaker 1: a terrifying time to be in New York. You know,
Speaker 1: it was coming up on the Summer of sam and
Speaker 1: they were making all those Charles Bronson movies where you know,
Speaker 1: everyone's you know, New York is a terrible place to
Speaker 1: live in the whole thing. And I was like, you kidding.
Speaker 1: I loved it. I thought the seventies were amazing. I
Speaker 1: thought it was a great, great time. It was a
Speaker 1: little nuts, but I loved it. How was LA in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six?
Speaker 2: It was pretty amazing. And I found myself hanging out
Speaker 2: with new friends like Harry Nielsen and Van Dyke Parks
Speaker 2: and all these kind of amazing musicians as well. So
Speaker 2: I had a really great time. And once I got
Speaker 2: my first job. Then I never stopped, so that was
Speaker 2: really lucky, and my work took me everywhere. But then
Speaker 2: what happened is having moved to America because they didn't
Speaker 2: want to hire me in England because I didn't fit
Speaker 2: what they were looking for. Pretty much every movie I
Speaker 2: did from America sent me back to England to start
Speaker 2: in the movie. I mean, go figure, I had to
Speaker 2: come all the way to America to be considered American
Speaker 2: worthy to then be hired to play in an English
Speaker 2: movie in England. So I kept going back to England
Speaker 2: and playing all these wonderful classic characters in England.
Speaker 1: What about You wasn't what they were looking for in
Speaker 1: the UK, I'm fascinated by that.
Speaker 2: Well, they were looking for someone that looked like the
Speaker 2: average woman next door, girl next door, and my accent
Speaker 2: was probably considered to be not colloquial enough, and because
Speaker 2: they were really looking for kind of, you know, someone
Speaker 2: from from southern London, it took a bit lo that
Speaker 2: or whatever. But anyway, the ridiculous thing is that I
Speaker 2: could play every accent. I used to do radio plays
Speaker 2: and everything in England. I mean, I can do West Country,
Speaker 2: I could do anything. So when I came to America,
Speaker 2: that was just another accent. It was rather silly. But
Speaker 2: you know, if you're English and you aren't from the
Speaker 2: stand or whatever, they wouldn't they wouldn't accept it. So
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think also I think there was
Speaker 2: a stigma about.
Speaker 3: Being you know, in the Bond franchise, and and you know,
Speaker 3: I I went back into the theater to enormous amount
Speaker 3: of theater straight after that, and.
Speaker 2: That's that's from how I got over it. That and
Speaker 2: then came to America where they didn't care. They were
Speaker 2: fine about me had done that. That was so a problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's I mean, it's so interesting. I often
Speaker 1: talk to people about how, you know, the UK is
Speaker 1: a fascinating place in the way that people are so
Speaker 1: specifically defined by the way that they speak, in a
Speaker 1: way that we're not really here. I mean, you can
Speaker 1: kind of tell that somebody is from an urban place
Speaker 1: or from the East coast, or you can kind of say, well,
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of times we sort
Speaker 1: of lump a southern accent into one thing, whereas actually
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different kinds and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. But we don't do that thing of going, yes,
Speaker 1: he's from Birmingham, and he's you know, from these like
Speaker 1: a working class kid from Birmingham, and I know exactly
Speaker 1: who that person is. And and conversely, there's also this
Speaker 1: thing that I've noticed where people actors sometimes who don't
Speaker 1: have who have a more kind of posh sounding accent,
Speaker 1: will sort of rough it up a little just to
Speaker 1: be legitimate, because it because you're not going to be
Speaker 1: really legitimate if you sound like John Gilgod.
Speaker 2: You know, yes, no, definitely, And I mean instell of
Speaker 2: acting has changed too, but right, right, right, but you
Speaker 2: know you're I mean, I know if I if I
Speaker 2: were to become less pronounced English, obviously it's more acceptable.
Speaker 2: The interesting thing is that I was told that Americans,
Speaker 2: you know, when they watched film or television, don't want
Speaker 2: to hear foreign accents. They want to hear their own Americans.
Speaker 2: So I played Americans exclusively for years and years and years.
Speaker 2: In fact, at one point I was had lunch at ABC.
Speaker 2: I had done a bunch of movies and TV shows
Speaker 2: for them, and and they asked me if I'd like
Speaker 2: some wine, and I said, oh, I'd love a glass
Speaker 2: and white wine please. So they said, what's with the
Speaker 2: phony British accents, because I realized that, you know, whenever
Speaker 2: I went up for a job or I worked, I
Speaker 2: never broke, you know, out of the American accents. And
Speaker 2: they actually thought I was an American and they weren't shock.
Speaker 2: They thought I was putting on some sort of you know,
Speaker 2: fancy fancy noise for them.
Speaker 1: Oh that is that is brilliant. Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: Well do you have a place in London anymore anymore?
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't. I used to have a beautiful
Speaker 2: home that was over a thousand years old well Saint
Speaker 2: Catherine's Court and Radiohead recorded okay computer there, Oh my God,
Speaker 2: and the Cure recorded two albums there. Johnny Cash was there,
Speaker 2: John Barry. It had the best sound in England in
Speaker 2: this one room. Peter Gabriel kept trying to buy it,
Speaker 2: but I apparently bought it before he could. He apparently
Speaker 2: used to drive past it three times a week. Go
Speaker 2: I should have had that house. So I had that
Speaker 2: for twenty six years, and then jan was in the country.
Speaker 1: It was in the country.
Speaker 2: In the country, yes, and near the city of Bath.
Speaker 2: So it was built in nine hundred and fifty. So
Speaker 2: when my American friends who had come, and they'd wake
Speaker 2: up and have breakfast in the morning, and I'd say,
Speaker 2: you are now sitting in a room that has you know,
Speaker 2: apart from the central heating, it hasn't changed since nine
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty. They couldn't wrap their heads around the
Speaker 2: fact that this house was four times older than their country.
Speaker 1: Oh my, that is just in incredible Wow. Okay, so so,
Speaker 1: but I have to have to dig into this a
Speaker 1: little bit. So did they? Did radio Head rent it
Speaker 1: from you to be able to wow? So they said,
Speaker 1: I mean, had the any had people recorded there before?
Speaker 1: I mean the Cure, the Cure before, okay and.
Speaker 2: The Cure of friends of radio So he told they
Speaker 2: told them, and then apparently, according to my kids, this
Speaker 2: is my greatest claim to fame is that I owned
Speaker 2: the house and rented it so that Okay computer could happen.
Speaker 4: That's pretty cool, though, I mean, it's an iconic, iconic album.
Speaker 1: Clearly, did they trash the joint?
Speaker 2: No? No, they were delightful men, delightful. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: really interesting. So some of them not somewhat punky between
Speaker 2: them and the Cure. But the feedback I got was
Speaker 2: they were delightful men.
Speaker 1: That's so, that's so great. Well, I love I love England.
Speaker 1: I I do these commercials over there, so I've ended
Speaker 1: up spending a lot of time and just for some
Speaker 1: reason shot I guess maybe three movies back back to back,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's interesting, you know for a and I've
Speaker 1: lived in, like I said, in New York since seventy
Speaker 1: six and grew up in Philadelphia, and London is like
Speaker 1: a really super comfortable place for me to be just
Speaker 1: because I'm used to places where you have to you know,
Speaker 1: take the subway and do a lot of walking and
Speaker 1: being you know, kind of surrounded by people and just
Speaker 1: kind of navigating streets. All the streets are a little
Speaker 1: harder to navigate. I have to see it, but but
Speaker 1: I really do. I love being there and it's always me.
Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, me too. I mean, it's it's beautiful. It's
Speaker 2: a fantastic country. I think. You know, the big difference
Speaker 2: is America is bossed and you're just every state is
Speaker 2: completely different in some ways. And in England it's sort
Speaker 2: of quirky and old and and it's small, it's a
Speaker 2: little island, and you know, it's it's amazing. You can
Speaker 2: just literally go down the street and everyone's speaking completing differently.
Speaker 1: It's so true, as you said, Yeah, it's so true. Okay.
Speaker 1: And speaking of which, you got an ob eve from
Speaker 1: the Queen for those of us, for us American dummies,
Speaker 1: explained to us what that is.
Speaker 2: Well, we've heard of people being knighted sir or lord.
Speaker 2: That's the highest level beneath being a sir. If you're
Speaker 2: a woman, if you're going to be the equivalent of
Speaker 2: the sir knighthood, you get called a dame like Dame
Speaker 2: Helen Merrin or Dame Judy Dench. Below that. Before you
Speaker 2: become a dame, you become an officer of the British Empire,
Speaker 2: which is what I am. Which the Beatles were at
Speaker 2: one point, or at least they were offered it. I
Speaker 2: think they might have whether they accept it in.
Speaker 1: The end, I think one day yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's a pretty prestigious. But what's lovely
Speaker 2: about it is it's really for representing your country and
Speaker 2: serving your country, not just in what I do for
Speaker 2: a living, but also in philanthropy. So that's what I
Speaker 2: got it for, and so I'm very proud of it.
Speaker 2: I so my actual name in England would be Jane
Speaker 2: seymour Obe.
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool, Yeah, that's that's my title? Was that?
Speaker 1: I mean, what was what's that like? Just as a day?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's you know, hey, I watched
Speaker 1: the Crown. There's got to be a lot of sort
Speaker 1: of pomp and circumstance and a whole bunch of rules
Speaker 1: and the things you got to do and you don't do.
Speaker 1: I mean, whenever I see those situations where I read
Speaker 1: about those things, I always think to myself, I know
Speaker 1: I would mess this up. I just know that I
Speaker 1: would do something that wasn't wasn't right.
Speaker 2: It's actually it's the coolest things. First of all, they
Speaker 2: tell you in secrets, so you're not like to tell
Speaker 2: anyone for months, and if you do tell anyone or
Speaker 2: anyone finds out, they'll take it away from you before
Speaker 2: you get kidding me. Wow. No. And actually my mentor
Speaker 2: from ballet school is a wonderful choreographer and was a
Speaker 2: male leading dancer in the line of festival called Ben
Speaker 2: Stephenson ran She'ston Ballet and then Ballet Texas. Anyway, he
Speaker 2: called me up and said, guess what I got? The
Speaker 2: ob and I went, I couldn't tell him that I
Speaker 2: had it too, so I said, Ben, are you sure
Speaker 2: you're supposed to be telling people I don't don't Anyway,
Speaker 2: randomly I ended up having getting my obia on exactly
Speaker 2: the same day as him, So we were there together,
Speaker 2: which was absolutely magical. And at the palace it is
Speaker 2: pomp and circumstances, but the people there are just so
Speaker 2: lovely and they they make light of the whole thing
Speaker 2: and said, well, you know, go learn how to bound
Speaker 2: Curtsey and you're good to meet the Queen. You have
Speaker 2: to you know, you have to walk three paces backwards
Speaker 2: afterwards in bowen and same ma'am and all of that,
Speaker 2: so they give you a sort of crash course in it.
Speaker 2: But it was absolutely magical. My mother was there and
Speaker 2: I mean she was so proud and so excited. You know,
Speaker 2: none of my family ever thought I'd ever do anything.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was a ballet dancer who was born
Speaker 2: with flat feed as speech impediments, so the chances of
Speaker 2: me had been working as a dancer was slim to none,
Speaker 2: and they were all totally against it. Used to saying
Speaker 2: don't put your daughter on the stage, missus Worthington to
Speaker 2: me all the time, and I was just obsessed. I
Speaker 2: was determined. And I actually started out as a dancer
Speaker 2: who sang and then became an actress who you know
Speaker 2: occasionally dances.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow wow. And was your friend surprised to
Speaker 1: see you there?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Had you? Had you since? Had you since? Let them know?
Speaker 2: I he got to know when it was announced in
Speaker 2: the world it was the New Year's Honor's list, and
Speaker 2: then he found out, and then I told him. But
Speaker 2: they had different dates when you go, and they knight
Speaker 2: people at the same time, so they do all the
Speaker 2: knighthood stuff as well. You're in the same group with
Speaker 2: everybody else.
Speaker 1: You know. What I'm struck with talking to you is
Speaker 1: you seem to have just a tremendous amount of energy
Speaker 1: and spirit. And I mean, it's it's it's it's as
Speaker 1: though I can just kind of feel your power through
Speaker 1: this you know, headphone and computer thing. And I'm wondering,
Speaker 1: if you know, I'm coming to the point now in
Speaker 1: my life where a lot of people around me or
Speaker 1: also people have kind of implied to me questions about
Speaker 1: are you ready to start, you know, taking your foot
Speaker 1: off the gas in whatever reason that is, and that
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be coming from you, as far as
Speaker 1: I can tell you. No.
Speaker 2: Actually, I would say the most amazing. Well, you know,
Speaker 2: for actresses, it's usually you're pretty down at fourteen. At
Speaker 2: forty I got this little series called Doctor Gwinn, which
Speaker 2: no one ever thought be a series. And then now
Speaker 2: at seventy I got another series in Ireland called Harry Wild,
Speaker 2: and that's taken off in fact, her second season I
Speaker 2: think just starts today. But I'm I mean, I'm just
Speaker 2: so blessed. And I also produce, I write books. I'm
Speaker 2: writing a crime novel at the moment, I'm doing my memoirs.
Speaker 2: I run philanthropy. I'm very involved in that. I'm a
Speaker 2: public speaker. I'm a painter, sculpturests. I have major sculptures
Speaker 2: of open hearts going up in major cities. And I've
Speaker 2: become very much an advocate and talk a great deal
Speaker 2: about aging gracefully and about Alzheimer's and dementia. I made
Speaker 2: a documentary with Glenn Campbell called I'll be Me All
Speaker 2: About Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, I love that documentary. How did you
Speaker 1: happen to get involved with that? I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you about that.
Speaker 2: Well, So I have four kids I get birth to,
Speaker 2: and of the twins, one of them we randomly called
Speaker 2: Johnny Keach after Johnny Cash, was our very close friend
Speaker 2: because he was on Doctor Quinn several times. And the
Speaker 2: other one we called Chris after Chris Reeve. So Johnny
Speaker 2: turns out to become a rock musician, a great singer songwriter.
Speaker 2: When my son was on tour, he was opening originally
Speaker 2: he was opening for Cheap Trick when he was fifteen,
Speaker 2: up and down in Europe and up and down the
Speaker 2: West Coast, and I was a band's worst nightmare. A mody.
Speaker 2: What is a mody, you may ask. It is a
Speaker 2: mother roady. It's what you really don't want but you
Speaker 2: absolutely needed. He said, Mom, we can get ourselves up.
Speaker 2: We're a band, we can go. We can get up.
Speaker 2: And I said really. And so the next morning they
Speaker 2: were not up. So I knocked him the door and
Speaker 2: I said, what happened, guys? You know you're late? And
Speaker 2: they said the alarm didn't go up, and I said,
Speaker 2: what do you do? He said, we called the front desk.
Speaker 2: It didn't they didn't call And I said, why is
Speaker 2: the phone off the hook? And they said, we didn't
Speaker 2: want to be disturbed. That's why you need a mother roady.
Speaker 1: That's the greatest.
Speaker 2: If you want to hear him, he's under Johnny Keach
Speaker 2: k E A H. And he was discovered at thirteen
Speaker 2: by some from Warner Brothers. And the next time we
Speaker 2: know that producer Julian Raymond came to us one day
Speaker 2: having worked with Johnny and his band they were now
Speaker 2: fifteen years old maybe, and said, I've just finished doing
Speaker 2: Glenn Campbell's latest album and he's got to go on tour,
Speaker 2: but he's got Alzheimer's and so we're worried that he
Speaker 2: can't even perform, let alone tour. But somebody's got to
Speaker 2: make a movie of this, so documented and we had
Speaker 2: made the movie Walk the Line about Johnny Cash. Johnny
Speaker 2: Cash gave us the rights to his life. We worked
Speaker 2: on it Jim Mangel. They ended up directing it, but
Speaker 2: somehow my name was not all the credits, which is interesting,
Speaker 2: probably why I'm tervorced. But we worked from that for
Speaker 2: eleven years. So they knew the Campbell's knew that we
Speaker 2: could be trusted, and we met with Glenn and he
Speaker 2: was hilarious. So we just thought, Okay, we'll try this,
Speaker 2: and it was in the most amazing experience. But it
Speaker 2: all came because of Julian and Raymond, and it was
Speaker 2: an extraordinary experience. I mean, to this day, I'm very
Speaker 2: close to all the Campbell's. I certainly learned more about
Speaker 2: Alzheimer's could possibly imagine. The last thing to go with
Speaker 2: Glenn was his music. He could still sing and play.
Speaker 2: Of course, he'd repeat the song, so you had to
Speaker 2: kind of make sure that he didn't. And at one point,
Speaker 2: after we'd finished filming and things were really getting bad,
Speaker 2: I took him into my art studio and he'd never
Speaker 2: painted before, and I gave him a palette knife and
Speaker 2: his favorite colors and a big canvas and he did
Speaker 2: three amazing canvases whilst singing Rhystone Cowboy. And meanwhile, his wife,
Speaker 2: Kim was at another easel, which we unfotunately didn't film,
Speaker 2: and she ended up painting a big, dark, black ray
Speaker 2: hole because that's where she was, and he was out
Speaker 2: there on you know, all these beautiful bright blues and greens, reds,
Speaker 2: just you know, very vibrant and lively and around him.
Speaker 2: You know, it was his caregiver who was having a
Speaker 2: really rough time just seeing what she comes out of art.
Speaker 1: You know, that is it's so interesting what comes out
Speaker 1: of art. And I honestly think that there's a lot
Speaker 1: to be said for just somebody that says, I just
Speaker 1: don't I don't paint, I don't draw, I don't do art,
Speaker 1: or I don't sculpt or whatever. It is just putting
Speaker 1: the putting the whatever the medium is in their hands
Speaker 1: and seeing seeing what comes out. I mean, it's it's,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's fascinating, probably sometimes insightful and and and
Speaker 1: in this case maybe you know, therapeutic to a certain extent. Uh,
Speaker 1: I had a you know, I love Glenn Campbell, you know,
Speaker 1: as a singer, is an incredible guitar player. Kind of
Speaker 1: people don't even a lot of people don't know that
Speaker 1: that that was a lot of what he did was
Speaker 1: just amazing session playing. And if anybody hasn't seen this movie,
Speaker 1: get Glenn Campbell. Uh, I'll be me, I'll be me,
Speaker 1: I'll be me.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: It's actually interesting when we made it, Glenn forgets who
Speaker 2: we were, even though we were working with the Membridge.
Speaker 2: And one day he said, I'm doing what he said,
Speaker 2: We're making it feel like your life. He said, you are,
Speaker 2: and then he paused and he said, I'll be meet.
Speaker 2: Oh so that's how we got the title. He came
Speaker 2: out in his mouth, he said, oh, well then I'll
Speaker 2: be meaty. Great. That was it done? And does it?
Speaker 2: It is a fantastic documentary.
Speaker 1: I was on a flight with him one time and
Speaker 1: I was so excited to be on the airplane with
Speaker 1: and he was kind of you know, you could kind
Speaker 1: of see that he was sort of in and out
Speaker 1: and I wasn't. We had a we had an exchange,
Speaker 1: you know, by the by the bathroom on you know,
Speaker 1: kind of passing the bathroom and and you know, he
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I wasn't really sure if if he recognized
Speaker 1: me or you know, knew who I was. He was
Speaker 1: very very sweet, very friendly, and then when we were
Speaker 1: getting off the plane, he handed me a signature pick
Speaker 1: guitar pick. Yeah, and I was, I was, I was
Speaker 1: just you know, it's just one of those moments. I'm
Speaker 1: never all that jazz or thunderstruck when I meet actors,
Speaker 1: because I work with actors all the time, and you know,
Speaker 1: but when it comes to you know, sort of heroic, iconic, musicians,
Speaker 1: you know, that always kind of hits me, and that
Speaker 1: was that was a great moment meeting Case. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. He was quite quite an interesting man and
Speaker 1: just a great spirit and obviously great musician. Tell me
Speaker 1: about your art, I mean there's some there's you're doing
Speaker 1: so much. There's so much to talk about, Uh, I
Speaker 1: want to know. Let me ask you first about the sculpture.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I'll just backtrack in that I
Speaker 2: could have gone to college to do art, but I
Speaker 2: was a ballet dancer and wanting to be an actress,
Speaker 2: so I didn't. And I also, at the age of
Speaker 2: fifteen because my parents couldn't afford my education, that learned
Speaker 2: the ballet shoes I used to design to make my
Speaker 2: own clothes and embroider and nets and crochet and sell them.
Speaker 2: So I had a business at fifteen making his things.
Speaker 2: So by the time I turned forty, I went through
Speaker 2: a terrible divorce, lost everything, and literally it was you know,
Speaker 2: nine million in the red the lawsuits from every major bank,
Speaker 2: including the FDIC, and I gave the last money I
Speaker 2: had with a child abuse organization called child Help, and
Speaker 2: in return for an artist to a drawing of my children,
Speaker 2: because I didn't understand what bankruptcy was. And he saw
Speaker 2: my finger paintings in the house and just said, oh,
Speaker 2: do paint as it not really, and he gave me
Speaker 2: free lessons. So I started out with nothing but the
Speaker 2: ability to do watercolors. And so when I immediately went
Speaker 2: and did dot Quinn, I would paint on set. You know,
Speaker 2: other people did the crossword puzzle, all learn their lines.
Speaker 2: I learnt my lines whilst painting watercolors. And then I
Speaker 2: ended up, you know, on a credit card for Discover
Speaker 2: with my painings in the Gougennheim, and then in a book,
Speaker 2: and then you know, all kinds of things. Corbelle asked
Speaker 2: me to do a champagne bottle and then and then
Speaker 2: I was asked to you a campaign for women's heart health,
Speaker 2: and so obviously you draw a heart, but I left
Speaker 2: the heart open. I thought that's interesting, and why did
Speaker 2: I do that? And I thought, well, my mother, you know,
Speaker 2: who had gone through World War Two in a Japanese
Speaker 2: prisoner of war camp three and a half years. She
Speaker 2: was a Dutch native of living in Indonesia, had always
Speaker 2: told me that in life everyone has challenge and when
Speaker 2: they do the natural thing is you close off your
Speaker 2: heart and you don't let anyone know. And it's like
Speaker 2: a long playing record with a scratch in it, and
Speaker 2: it's just this story goes round around. You just can't
Speaker 2: get out, you can't move forward. Said the hardest thing
Speaker 2: to do in life is to accept the unacceptable. But
Speaker 2: if you can, and you can open up your heart
Speaker 2: and reach out to help someone else, you will have purpose.
Speaker 2: And said that is the key to happiness in life,
Speaker 2: is you have a purpose. And she said, and you've
Speaker 2: been through something, you see someone who's going down, you
Speaker 2: know that that path, and you can help them in
Speaker 2: some way. And so I thought, well, that's like two
Speaker 2: hearts that connect. So I drew one heart and connected
Speaker 2: it to the other heart. And at first it looks
Speaker 2: and I went, oh, it's like booms in the butt.
Speaker 2: We all are. And now no, actually there's something very iconic.
Speaker 2: It's almost it's almost like an infinity. But it was
Speaker 2: too hot, so I I said, you know, maybe I
Speaker 2: should trademark this, and my then husband, James Keep, said,
Speaker 2: don't be ridiculous. You can't trademark hearts. I said, well,
Speaker 2: coming at least try, and it costs money. And the
Speaker 2: next day, you know, the lawyer comes back and says,
Speaker 2: you're not going to believe it, but Jane has actually
Speaker 2: managed to trademark something that no one's been able to do.
Speaker 2: So it became this image originally in watercolor, and then
Speaker 2: I turned it into sculpture, and which is really lovely
Speaker 2: because people go to, you know, different places where the
Speaker 2: sculpture is and they get to pose there and climb
Speaker 2: all over it, and you know, it's meaningful.
Speaker 1: How do you actually do this? How do you do
Speaker 1: sculpt I'm always amazing. It's because of some of your
Speaker 1: sculpture is very large, right, Well, what you.
Speaker 2: Do is you start with the small one, okay you
Speaker 2: but you do. You have a wire underneath it, and
Speaker 2: then you add the clay to it, and then you keep,
Speaker 2: you know, sculpting away till it's the way you want it.
Speaker 2: Because the interesting with sculpture it has to work three dimensionally,
Speaker 2: So every time you've got it right in front of you,
Speaker 2: then you turn its sight to the side and suddenly
Speaker 2: you have to start all over again because it's listing
Speaker 2: in the wrong directions. It's much harder to do than
Speaker 2: you imagine. And I also sculpt people's faces and you know,
Speaker 2: bodies as well. I learned how to do all it,
Speaker 2: but this one, once I got it right as a
Speaker 2: smaller sculpture, I then took it to a foundry and
Speaker 2: I said, I want to now do an eight foot one,
Speaker 2: and how do I do it? And so this sculpting
Speaker 2: guy was fantastic. He built what they call an armature,
Speaker 2: I think it's called so big, a big you know,
Speaker 2: metal piece to go underneath. And then the first one
Speaker 2: is done with polystyrene, you know, with that like that
Speaker 2: stuff that people packing stuff, that white stuff. Until I
Speaker 2: got that exactly right you could sculpt that. And then
Speaker 2: he took it away and put it in what's called
Speaker 2: lost wax, which is this very heavy, very very solid
Speaker 2: red wax. And then I came in and sculpted into
Speaker 2: that until it was right. And when that was right
Speaker 2: to me, then they take it to a foundry. They
Speaker 2: cut it into like three or four pieces, they make
Speaker 2: a mold, they you know, they they do it in bronze,
Speaker 2: and then they bring it back and solder it together.
Speaker 2: I didn't do any of the soldering. I chose what
Speaker 2: I wanted for the finish, and then I came in
Speaker 2: and you know, sinessa with the finish, and that's it.
Speaker 2: That's how you did.
Speaker 1: Okay. So you wake up one morning, any morning, random morning,
Speaker 1: and you say, okay, how are you going to break
Speaker 1: down your day between working on your novel, sculpting, painting,
Speaker 1: learning lines, working with the foundation, raising children a family.
Speaker 1: I don't understand how that day breaks down.
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, first of all, I'm very fortunate to have
Speaker 2: a lovely home that has enough space in it to
Speaker 2: have my art studio. I have a recording area, we
Speaker 2: grow all our vegetables in the garden. We've got chickens,
Speaker 2: so I don't actually really have to need the house.
Speaker 2: If I didn't want to. I can do a lot
Speaker 2: of it here. I you know, I obviously have a
Speaker 2: point where things had to do if I'm filming. When
Speaker 2: I was filming, I was in Ireland, So then I
Speaker 2: have to move to a tiny little house and do
Speaker 2: everything from there. And I'm a bit like you. I'm
Speaker 2: not complete, you know. I can usually break it. Anything
Speaker 2: to do with the computer, I can just look at
Speaker 2: it and it doesn't work. But today I got lucky.
Speaker 2: But otherwise I take my paints from me wherever I go,
Speaker 2: I right wherever I am. I'm working on the memoir
Speaker 2: with someone, so I can basically tell all the stories
Speaker 2: and they'll put them in the right order and then
Speaker 2: we'll both look at it again. So I do it
Speaker 2: that way. When I produce depends on whether I'm producing
Speaker 2: and I'm in it or not. I mean, you know
Speaker 2: what that's like. But you surround yourself for the best,
Speaker 2: so you know the art of delegation. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, I'm really being on top of it, and
Speaker 2: I'm a multitasking I think when you have that many
Speaker 2: children and grandchildren, you do other things in life. You
Speaker 2: have to be a multitasker. And I can really focus
Speaker 2: on one thing to the exclusion of everything else for
Speaker 2: a while and then shut it off and then go
Speaker 2: on to do something else. But yeah, I tide it.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's move on to the foundation. So on top
Speaker 1: of everything else, you are extremely philanthropic and you have
Speaker 1: the Open Hearts Foundation, and we would like to bring
Speaker 1: on Trina Pritchard, who is the director executive director of
Speaker 1: your foundation. A lot of what this podcast is about
Speaker 1: is being able to hang out in the first half
Speaker 1: with someone like you, Jane, who is so incredible across
Speaker 1: so many different parts of the entertainment industry, and just
Speaker 1: be able to connect and shoot the breeze. But also
Speaker 1: we want to give the microphone to the people who
Speaker 1: are behind the scenes and running the foundations having to
Speaker 1: do with the things that you care about. So, Trina,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Where are you?
Speaker 1: Where are you right now?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm actually in Jane's art gallery.
Speaker 5: Jane has a beautiful art gallery in Westlake Village in California,
Speaker 5: and she donates a portion of the office space to
Speaker 5: the foundation so I can operate out of it.
Speaker 1: Oh that's great, that's fantastic. I didn't I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1: Is it are there? Is it mostly your work in there, Jane?
Speaker 2: Or is a bunch of artists and my son sew
Speaker 2: and Flynn Photography. You can check him out. We have
Speaker 2: some of his work that I'm hoping to put my daughter,
Speaker 2: Katie Jay Flynn in as well. She's been doing really
Speaker 2: well with her photography. But otherwise it's pretty much mostly
Speaker 2: mine and there's a lot there also the jewelry that
Speaker 2: I did with Open Hearts, and also costumes from Dr
Speaker 2: Quinn and some memorabilia and also some iconic photograph photographs
Speaker 2: done by major people of me over the years. So
Speaker 2: it's actually a really kind of fun place to visit.
Speaker 2: It's sort of the world of Jane.
Speaker 1: I was wondering if there were any of the you
Speaker 1: said you started some of the doing the watercolor during
Speaker 1: Doctor Quinn, and do you have any of those there?
Speaker 2: Yes, I have everything going back. In fact, I've even
Speaker 2: managed to find pieces my mother had kept from that
Speaker 2: I did when I was ten years old, so we
Speaker 2: go all the way back. But yes, there's everthing's there.
Speaker 2: I think Susan Nazelutz runs what's called Coral Canyon Publishing.
Speaker 2: She works with me and she works out of there,
Speaker 2: and I used to do about twelve woman shows all
Speaker 2: over the country in Canada every year until I was
Speaker 2: working too much as an actress and you know, COVID
Speaker 2: and other kinds of things. But when we had COVID
Speaker 2: and with the foundation, we kept asking ourselves, you know,
Speaker 2: if we can't put on a big event, how do
Speaker 2: we raise money out awareness. So one of the things
Speaker 2: I did is I would teach art to people in
Speaker 2: old people's homes who were stuck and couldn't even see
Speaker 2: their relatives, and we'd paint together for a couple of hours.
Speaker 2: And one time I also painted with a woman who
Speaker 2: was wheelchair bounded, actually in hospice at the time. I
Speaker 2: think she had als, and I actually showed her how
Speaker 2: she could move one hand and the other and she
Speaker 2: did all these amazing paintings just before she passed. So
Speaker 2: we did a lot of that. So art was I
Speaker 2: find very healing, and it's also been a great way
Speaker 2: to raise funds for the foundation too.
Speaker 1: So Trina tell us about the foundation, is what is
Speaker 1: the work that you do?
Speaker 5: Sure? So, I mean, you know, we were founded by
Speaker 5: Jane's mother's philosophy.
Speaker 2: If you guys have heard, you.
Speaker 5: Know that in times of great trouble, you have to
Speaker 5: accept what's happening and do what you can to help
Speaker 5: others and by doing so, your heart remains open. So
Speaker 5: this philosophy is really what drives the Foundation's mission and
Speaker 5: it's it motivates us to keep going and help people
Speaker 5: every single day. And it's over the years since we've
Speaker 5: been around, we were founded in twenty ten, we've really
Speaker 5: become a movement of like minded people working together for
Speaker 5: the greater good. Mika really believes that where there was adversity,
Speaker 5: there is opportunity. In those internment camps, she really had
Speaker 5: nothing but created so much for so many people and
Speaker 5: helped others, and that's the way that she was able
Speaker 5: to survive those conditions. And we relate the foundation identify
Speaker 5: charities like that that are on the front lines, that
Speaker 5: have limited resources, small and emerging charities. We've focused primarily
Speaker 5: on women and children's issues, but a lot of people
Speaker 5: that need help and we empower them through our grants
Speaker 5: and through our volunteerism efforts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's interesting because generally I find that
Speaker 1: well known people will pick one sort of wow, where
Speaker 1: did those balloons come from?
Speaker 2: No idea, not me, It's just the energy that's flowing
Speaker 2: with us. All.
Speaker 1: Okay, for those of you who are seeing my zoom
Speaker 1: just had balloons go up in the background.
Speaker 2: Mind mind it too, yes, oh, used it too.
Speaker 1: Wow. I wonder if I hope that is some kind
Speaker 1: of strange act going on. Yeah, okay, well well let's yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's yeah, let's call it energy. Yeah. You know,
Speaker 1: I uh, when when we started six degrees dot Org,
Speaker 1: I was kind of struck with so many things that
Speaker 1: I was kind of cared about and overwhelmed with. So
Speaker 1: I think that in a lot of ways, it's it's
Speaker 1: a little bit easier to just pick you know, whatever
Speaker 1: it is the environment or or hunger or whales or
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and having there. But there
Speaker 1: are similarities between our foundations in that it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's more of a kind of across the board thing
Speaker 1: and and a and a and an idea, I mean,
Speaker 1: the idea of an open heart, the idea of uh
Speaker 1: what your mom in that terrible situation, you know, discovered
Speaker 1: about life and about human beings? Is is the is
Speaker 1: the driving force of the of the foundation. It seems
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the real issue is I meet people
Speaker 2: all the time who say, oh, I wish I knew
Speaker 2: what to donate to I, you know, I don't really
Speaker 2: know whether they actually get the money or whether they
Speaker 2: should or how much they spend on other things. And
Speaker 2: so what we really are doing, as as Traina says,
Speaker 2: we're kind of a movement. We're kind of anyone really
Speaker 2: wants to help, they can help with ten dollars, they
Speaker 2: can help with time, they can buy by volunteering. We
Speaker 2: have a whole volunteering program, and they can. You know,
Speaker 2: people come to us with all these different organizations. We
Speaker 2: vet them. There's thousands to go through to find the
Speaker 2: right ones, but we do. We We thought, rather than
Speaker 2: reinventing whatever is there and being yet another you know,
Speaker 2: comes throughout Alzheimer's or heart disease or environment, we wanted
Speaker 2: to fill in the gaps where there was normous need
Speaker 2: and the amount of money we would give them would
Speaker 2: go much further than it would anywhere else. So we're
Speaker 2: kind of curating for people. So if anyone really wants
Speaker 2: to give back and wants to be part of that
Speaker 2: kind of movement and really does want to help others,
Speaker 2: they can with us. And that's what we do. And
Speaker 2: so we have we have people who donate from all
Speaker 2: over the world we have. We have it's you know, donating.
Speaker 2: We had My daughter Katie Flynn has got this amazing
Speaker 2: program that she's got of volunteers where their doctor's volunteering,
Speaker 2: but they're bringing their kids and the kids are volunteering
Speaker 2: and they're starting out their own programs and with volunteers
Speaker 2: with beehives. One of them is called I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just marvelous. And if you think about it as a
Speaker 2: movement and that what we are doing is curating that movement.
Speaker 2: That's what we're doing. And Trina's pretty much, you know,
Speaker 2: the almost the only person that is paid to work
Speaker 2: in our foundation. We have an incredible board of people
Speaker 2: who work so hard, don't they, Trina? I mean yeah,
Speaker 2: unpaid and literally I mean gives so much to their
Speaker 2: time and expertise and we couldn't do it without them.
Speaker 2: And then we have fans who've just been enormously supportive.
Speaker 2: We always have a big event or if it's not COVID,
Speaker 2: I think the next one is February eighteenth, ze, right,
Speaker 2: but verse seventeenth, Yeah, seventeenth, who I know, it's right
Speaker 2: close to my birthday. My birth is the fifteenth, and
Speaker 2: that's always enormously good fun and people literally come from
Speaker 2: all over the world for it. And then the rest
Speaker 2: of the year we do all kinds of other fundraise.
Speaker 2: In fact, we have one coming up on October fifteenth,
Speaker 2: which is called chit Chat with Meeka. My mother's name
Speaker 2: is Meeka. Normally it's called chit Chat with Kitty Cat
Speaker 2: or Chitchat with Solitaire, or chit Chat with Mikayla Quinn
Speaker 2: And it's usually a chance for people to donate and
Speaker 2: join the Zoom and for a couple of hours we
Speaker 2: all talk about and they ask me questions about something
Speaker 2: I played. Well, in this case, we're actually talking about
Speaker 2: my mother, who she was, and other people who knew her,
Speaker 2: and stories they have to tell about her and how
Speaker 2: that pertains to what we're doing with the Open Heart Foundation.
Speaker 2: And then that money will yet again go into the
Speaker 2: kitchen and be sent to all these amazing organizations.
Speaker 1: So in order to join the Zoom, then you donate
Speaker 1: to join the Zoom, or if you join the Zoom,
Speaker 1: then you donate afterwards. Oh that's a really cool idea.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we came up with that during the pandemic when
Speaker 5: we couldn't be in person and we needed to raise money,
Speaker 5: and you know, Jane graciously is giving of her time
Speaker 5: and obviously her life's experiences, but this particular one is
Speaker 5: really important because it is Meeka's story and Jane's story
Speaker 5: and the family story that really sort of drives us
Speaker 5: forward and supports the work.
Speaker 2: That we do, the grants that we give.
Speaker 5: You know, we've supported over sixty charities since we were founded,
Speaker 5: and they're all over the United States. Some of them
Speaker 5: are not so emerging anymore, and we're really excited about
Speaker 5: that they've grown so much and they're so successful that
Speaker 5: they don't need our help anymore. And some we've just
Speaker 5: discovered through, as Jane said, are em vetting process that
Speaker 5: we go through when we do our grant cycles. And
Speaker 5: the volunteerism program is just like just beginning to take shape.
Speaker 5: And we had a bunch of ideas that we were
Speaker 5: going to do with the pandemic.
Speaker 2: Of course, with the.
Speaker 5: Lockdown, we had to turn to virtual opportunities, but still
Speaker 5: we sent cards to seniors isolated and senior centers all
Speaker 5: across the United States, and we've been able to plant
Speaker 5: trees and grasses at Paramount Ranch to restore from the
Speaker 5: woosey fires that we're here in Los Angeles, so there's
Speaker 5: a lot to do. I think the whole point is
Speaker 5: that everybody can do something to help someone else, and
Speaker 5: by doing that, you find purpose, you keep your heart open,
Speaker 5: that sort of ripple effect keeps going.
Speaker 1: That's great, that's great, And Treta, let me ask yourselthing,
Speaker 1: what is it that brought you to doing this kind
Speaker 1: of work. I'm always fascinated when someone chooses a life
Speaker 1: or a career path that has to do with service.
Speaker 5: Sures. I think I've kind of always been a person
Speaker 5: of service. It was a big part of what my
Speaker 5: mother taught my sister and I when we were growing up,
Speaker 5: you know, always helping other people. She still helps people today.
Speaker 5: She's going to be eighty next year. But sony years ago,
Speaker 5: I decided to make a career transition. I didn't want
Speaker 5: to just kind of get a desk job. I wanted
Speaker 5: to actually make a difference in the world and sort
Speaker 5: of align my personal values with the work that I
Speaker 5: do from nine to five. So I've been fortunate to
Speaker 5: work with a lot of small and large charities across
Speaker 5: the Greater Los Angeles area. You know, it's the work
Speaker 5: that actually inspires me and helps to keep me motivated
Speaker 5: and going. But I've been able to help children in
Speaker 5: public school learn through the arts, help small featers in
Speaker 5: Los Angeles learn how to grow their audiences. I've worked
Speaker 5: for Big Brothers Big Sisters of Greater Los Angeles, and
Speaker 5: this work that I've been fortunate to be a part
Speaker 5: of for the past four years has just opened my
Speaker 5: eyes to the folks that really need the help, the
Speaker 5: boots on the ground, the communities that just don't have
Speaker 5: food or shelter or clothing. So I've been I've really
Speaker 5: enjoyed the work we've been doing here.
Speaker 2: And how I mean, we deal with with battered women,
Speaker 2: We deal with children, have incarcerated adults. We deal with
Speaker 2: women who've done their time and are trying to get,
Speaker 2: you know, back into the workforce. We a lot of
Speaker 2: food insecurity, huge amount. What else are we dealing with, Oh,
Speaker 2: foster girls, you know, coming out and having having babies
Speaker 2: and not knowing you know, how to fill in the
Speaker 2: forms or what they're entitled to, or how to eat
Speaker 2: and take care of the child let alone themselves. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, things you don't think about. And then of
Speaker 2: course you know the cares people who are looking up
Speaker 2: to people with disabilities. And when when when Christopher Reeve
Speaker 2: was around, we supported a wonderful organization's doing really when
Speaker 2: I called life Roles on the Jesse Bellio who we
Speaker 2: who takes people who just kids who've just been become
Speaker 2: paralyzed and it ties them to surf boards and brings
Speaker 2: them out with the famous self is out out on
Speaker 2: the surf. I mean just saw that this weekend. So
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things you don't think about that
Speaker 2: make a huge, huge difference. And one of the things
Speaker 2: that we're proud of is it will give you know,
Speaker 2: our grand but then locally the people go with that's
Speaker 2: in our neighborhood. Wow, that's really cool, and then'll double
Speaker 2: or triple it. Yeah, so that's what's very cool. Yeah.
Speaker 5: The verb in our mission is too empower. So we
Speaker 5: do provide the grant, but we also offer the opportunity
Speaker 5: for them to use our grant as a matching grant,
Speaker 5: which they offer and leverage and so they'll raise double triple.
Speaker 5: I think the record so far is raising thirteen times
Speaker 5: the amount that we've granted them by leveraging our grant
Speaker 5: and our organization.
Speaker 1: Times that's incredible.
Speaker 2: I know, I know.
Speaker 5: It was a Creighton Community Foundation in Arizona. They serve
Speaker 5: the Creighton Community School District and they had a food bank.
Speaker 5: This was right like in June the pandemic, and we
Speaker 5: gave them a fifteen thousand dollars grant. They wanted to
Speaker 5: go from once a month to twice a month to
Speaker 5: be giving food out to their area. And they took
Speaker 5: that fifteen thousand dollars grant and they doubled it with
Speaker 5: their community.
Speaker 2: And then they took that money and they.
Speaker 5: Wrote a for a state grant and cut double that
Speaker 5: and then they went to their dollar that year and
Speaker 5: they announced this whole thing and they raised.
Speaker 2: I think they raised like over three hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: in that year.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 5: So, you know, if that's what we're about, that ripple effect,
Speaker 5: and you know, it's not necessarily us, it's just people
Speaker 5: inspiring people to do what they can to help others.
Speaker 2: And what we love is, you know, if you go
Speaker 2: to Openhat's Foundation dot org, you can literally see and
Speaker 2: identify with any of those charities and look deeper, do
Speaker 2: a deeper dive. It's all there and you go, well,
Speaker 2: actually that's really interesting and maybe I'd like to work
Speaker 2: with them, I'd like to do something. So you know,
Speaker 2: quite often after we've introduced people to the organization and
Speaker 2: we've given the grand then people go directly to that organization,
Speaker 2: get involved and donate in the future. So we're kind
Speaker 2: of empowering and shining a light on and identifying and
Speaker 2: curating a way of giving back. And I think that's
Speaker 2: what we're doing to the general population is we're saying,
Speaker 2: you know, with sort of like the good housekeeping, the
Speaker 2: feel of well, the Open Hearts Foundation seal of approval,
Speaker 2: like you know, we've done due diligence and this is
Speaker 2: who they are. And you know, you may be more
Speaker 2: into cats and dogs or you know, the timers or whatever,
Speaker 2: but we're pretty sure you'll find something here that you
Speaker 2: know will be meaningful to you.
Speaker 1: That's amazing And in fact, you actually took the words
Speaker 1: out of my mouth because I was going to say,
Speaker 1: how can people reach out? How can people get involved?
Speaker 1: And it's Open Heartsfoundation dot org. That's all they need
Speaker 1: to know, correct to go there, to look for opportunities
Speaker 1: to donate, opportunities for volunteerism, uh, connections, whatever it is
Speaker 1: doing a deeper dive into all of these many organizations
Speaker 1: and foundations that you're supporting. That's that's the spot.
Speaker 2: And also they can let us know if they know
Speaker 2: of some organization we haven't come across yet that might
Speaker 2: be worthy of the you know, the next cycle of donations.
Speaker 2: You know, we're always looking to see what else there is,
Speaker 2: who else you know, fits fits the parameters. Usually what
Speaker 2: we're looking for is a connection between someone who's been
Speaker 2: through a challenge like my mother had, who's taken the
Speaker 2: opportunity after that to give back and to make a difference,
Speaker 2: gone out of the way to do that. So you know,
Speaker 2: that's really the thing that makes the difference in the end.
Speaker 5: We're we're also on our socials as well, you know,
Speaker 5: of course Facebook and Instagram and X or Twitter compitting
Speaker 5: away you call it.
Speaker 1: I wanted to just give us a shout out of
Speaker 1: those handles.
Speaker 5: Sure, so they're a little bit different. So Facebook, it's
Speaker 5: at Open Hearts Foundation. On Instagram it's at the Open
Speaker 5: Hearts Foundation. And on Twitter or x it's at Open
Speaker 5: Hearts found well.
Speaker 1: Of course all of those will be in our liner
Speaker 1: notes as well.
Speaker 2: But thank you and if you go to James Seymour
Speaker 2: with the blue dot in either Instagram or Facebook, you'll
Speaker 2: see me talking about the foundations usually and link there
Speaker 2: directly to the foundation. And you know, everything I do,
Speaker 2: if I design jewelry, or I do do scarves, or
Speaker 2: I do art, there is always a portion that goes
Speaker 2: to the foundation, so I do that too.
Speaker 1: That is amazing. It's great work that both of you
Speaker 1: are doing. Trina Pitchford, thank you so much for being
Speaker 1: here today, and the fantastic Jane Seymour. I'm so glad
Speaker 1: to get this opportunity to hang out with you. And
Speaker 1: we can only aspire to be as active and as
Speaker 1: positive and as motivated and driven as you are. So
Speaker 1: thank you for your energy here today and it's been
Speaker 1: a wet well.
Speaker 2: Thank you for yours. You know you're making a big
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