1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Wow. Today's guest has a really, really especially interesting life. 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: She is knighted, her mother was a prisoner of war. 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: She's involved with all kinds of causes as had a 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: incredible career as an actress. So many, so many interesting 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: life experiences. Today's guest is the fabulous Jane Seymour. So 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: lean in. I think you're going to enjoy this. I'm 7 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: very very excited to be here today with Jane Seymour, 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: the iconic Jane Seymour. First off, Jane, let me apologize 9 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: for my technical ineptitude. I usually am so good at 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: getting these things dialed in, but for some reason today 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: you were very very patient to sit there and wait 12 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: for me to work out my knucklehead gear. Here, I'm 13 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: as I just said to you, I'm on the road 14 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: in a hotel room, and where are you? I mean, 15 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this beautiful background. 16 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: I'm at home, and yes, it's my living room, and 17 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: I think behind me is a painting of two of everything. 18 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: I think I got left in Bali a million years ago, 19 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: but then I had twins, so I've kept it up 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: there in two of everything. 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: Ah, that's great, So you have twins. How old are your. 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: Twins almost twenty eight. Wow. 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: Wow? And how many children do you have? 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: Four that I gave birth to and six that I 25 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: helped raise total. 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: Very very little known fact. My mother was a twin, 27 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: as was as is my brother's wife. So my brother Michael, 28 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: who I'm in a band with, married a twin, and 29 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: our mom was a twin. And I'll never forget. I 30 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: was a child and I had never met my aunt, 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: and she lived in a ranch in californ and we 32 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: grew up in the city in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. And one 33 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: day I woke up and as I'm coming downstairs into 34 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: the living room, I see this woman that's sitting on 35 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: the couch and it's not my mother, but it looks 36 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: exactly like my mother. And nobody, nobody had told me 37 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: about this, Like I didn't know anything. It totally freaked 38 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: me out such a why would you? I don't know. 39 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: It's just that no one, no one really warm. I 40 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: don't think anybody ever told. But this was the difference 41 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: was that she had lipstick on and my mother never 42 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: wore a lipstick, and that and I So I've always 43 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: had this kind of odd sort of relationship. Boy, I've 44 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: gone way too deep into this. How are you? How 45 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: are you? I'm very well, Thank you so much for 46 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: being here. So tell me where where did you grow up? 47 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: I grew up in Merton Park. It's very close to Wimbledon. 48 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: I was born in Hillingdon, Middlesex, so between Merton Park 49 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: and then Hillingdon, Middlesex, which is basically pretty close to 50 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: the airport in London. London. 51 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: Yes, and when did you come to the States. 52 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: I came permanently in seventy six and i'd been out 53 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: for when I had been filming, and I have been 54 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: told in England that I could only play exotics. I 55 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: don't know what that was all about, and that I 56 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: didn't look or sound like the girl next door. And 57 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: a wonderful casting director in America had met me and said, 58 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: if you can come to America and news your English accent, 59 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: you'll never stop working. So I just thought, oh, I'll 60 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: come to America. But it wasn't that easy. I didn't 61 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: have a work permit, I had a visitor's visa, and 62 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: my agent asked me to leave because he said it 63 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: was the worst mistake of my life. And I had 64 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: six weeks in which to make it. And I'm still here. 65 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing. You know, eighteen seventy six was was 66 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: a big year for me because that's when I decided 67 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: to pack my bags as a kid in Philadelphia and 68 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: go to New York and try to become an actor. 69 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: Really too. 70 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know what your feeling was a 71 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: lot of people, I mean, when you were in you 72 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: came to California, right, and I was moving to New York. 73 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: But a lot of people have said to me, what 74 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: a terrifying time to be in New York. You know, 75 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 1: it was coming up on the Summer of sam and 76 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: they were making all those Charles Bronson movies where you know, 77 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: everyone's you know, New York is a terrible place to 78 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: live in the whole thing. And I was like, you kidding. 79 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: I loved it. I thought the seventies were amazing. I 80 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: thought it was a great, great time. It was a 81 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: little nuts, but I loved it. How was LA in 82 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six? 83 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: It was pretty amazing. And I found myself hanging out 84 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: with new friends like Harry Nielsen and Van Dyke Parks 85 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: and all these kind of amazing musicians as well. So 86 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: I had a really great time. And once I got 87 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 2: my first job. Then I never stopped, so that was 88 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: really lucky, and my work took me everywhere. But then 89 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: what happened is having moved to America because they didn't 90 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: want to hire me in England because I didn't fit 91 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: what they were looking for. Pretty much every movie I 92 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: did from America sent me back to England to start 93 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: in the movie. I mean, go figure, I had to 94 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: come all the way to America to be considered American 95 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: worthy to then be hired to play in an English 96 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: movie in England. So I kept going back to England 97 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: and playing all these wonderful classic characters in England. 98 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: What about You wasn't what they were looking for in 99 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: the UK, I'm fascinated by that. 100 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: Well, they were looking for someone that looked like the 101 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: average woman next door, girl next door, and my accent 102 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: was probably considered to be not colloquial enough, and because 103 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: they were really looking for kind of, you know, someone 104 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: from from southern London, it took a bit lo that 105 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: or whatever. But anyway, the ridiculous thing is that I 106 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: could play every accent. I used to do radio plays 107 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: and everything in England. I mean, I can do West Country, 108 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: I could do anything. So when I came to America, 109 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: that was just another accent. It was rather silly. But 110 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: you know, if you're English and you aren't from the 111 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: stand or whatever, they wouldn't they wouldn't accept it. So 112 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think also I think there was 113 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: a stigma about. 114 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: Being you know, in the Bond franchise, and and you know, 115 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 3: I I went back into the theater to enormous amount 116 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: of theater straight after that, and. 117 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: That's that's from how I got over it. That and 118 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: then came to America where they didn't care. They were 119 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: fine about me had done that. That was so a problem. 120 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's I mean, it's so interesting. I often 121 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: talk to people about how, you know, the UK is 122 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: a fascinating place in the way that people are so 123 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: specifically defined by the way that they speak, in a 124 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: way that we're not really here. I mean, you can 125 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: kind of tell that somebody is from an urban place 126 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: or from the East coast, or you can kind of say, well, 127 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of times we sort 128 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: of lump a southern accent into one thing, whereas actually 129 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different kinds and all that kind 130 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: of stuff. But we don't do that thing of going, yes, 131 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: he's from Birmingham, and he's you know, from these like 132 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: a working class kid from Birmingham, and I know exactly 133 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: who that person is. And and conversely, there's also this 134 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: thing that I've noticed where people actors sometimes who don't 135 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: have who have a more kind of posh sounding accent, 136 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: will sort of rough it up a little just to 137 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: be legitimate, because it because you're not going to be 138 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: really legitimate if you sound like John Gilgod. 139 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: You know, yes, no, definitely, And I mean instell of 140 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: acting has changed too, but right, right, right, but you 141 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: know you're I mean, I know if I if I 142 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: were to become less pronounced English, obviously it's more acceptable. 143 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: The interesting thing is that I was told that Americans, 144 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: you know, when they watched film or television, don't want 145 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: to hear foreign accents. They want to hear their own Americans. 146 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: So I played Americans exclusively for years and years and years. 147 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: In fact, at one point I was had lunch at ABC. 148 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: I had done a bunch of movies and TV shows 149 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: for them, and and they asked me if I'd like 150 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: some wine, and I said, oh, I'd love a glass 151 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: and white wine please. So they said, what's with the 152 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: phony British accents, because I realized that, you know, whenever 153 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: I went up for a job or I worked, I 154 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: never broke, you know, out of the American accents. And 155 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: they actually thought I was an American and they weren't shock. 156 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: They thought I was putting on some sort of you know, 157 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: fancy fancy noise for them. 158 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: Oh that is that is brilliant. Oh my gosh, that's amazing. 159 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: Well do you have a place in London anymore anymore? 160 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: No, No, I don't. I used to have a beautiful 161 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: home that was over a thousand years old well Saint 162 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: Catherine's Court and Radiohead recorded okay computer there, Oh my God, 163 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: and the Cure recorded two albums there. Johnny Cash was there, 164 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: John Barry. It had the best sound in England in 165 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: this one room. Peter Gabriel kept trying to buy it, 166 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: but I apparently bought it before he could. He apparently 167 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: used to drive past it three times a week. Go 168 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: I should have had that house. So I had that 169 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: for twenty six years, and then jan was in the country. 170 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: It was in the country. 171 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: In the country, yes, and near the city of Bath. 172 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: So it was built in nine hundred and fifty. So 173 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: when my American friends who had come, and they'd wake 174 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: up and have breakfast in the morning, and I'd say, 175 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: you are now sitting in a room that has you know, 176 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: apart from the central heating, it hasn't changed since nine 177 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty. They couldn't wrap their heads around the 178 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: fact that this house was four times older than their country. 179 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: Oh my, that is just in incredible Wow. Okay, so so, 180 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: but I have to have to dig into this a 181 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: little bit. So did they? Did radio Head rent it 182 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: from you to be able to wow? So they said, 183 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: I mean, had the any had people recorded there before? 184 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: I mean the Cure, the Cure before, okay and. 185 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: The Cure of friends of radio So he told they 186 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: told them, and then apparently, according to my kids, this 187 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: is my greatest claim to fame is that I owned 188 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 2: the house and rented it so that Okay computer could happen. 189 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: That's pretty cool, though, I mean, it's an iconic, iconic album. 190 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: Clearly, did they trash the joint? 191 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: No? No, they were delightful men, delightful. I mean, it's 192 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: really interesting. So some of them not somewhat punky between 193 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 2: them and the Cure. But the feedback I got was 194 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: they were delightful men. 195 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: That's so, that's so great. Well, I love I love England. 196 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: I I do these commercials over there, so I've ended 197 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: up spending a lot of time and just for some 198 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: reason shot I guess maybe three movies back back to back, 199 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: and uh, it's interesting, you know for a and I've 200 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: lived in, like I said, in New York since seventy 201 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: six and grew up in Philadelphia, and London is like 202 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: a really super comfortable place for me to be just 203 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: because I'm used to places where you have to you know, 204 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: take the subway and do a lot of walking and 205 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: being you know, kind of surrounded by people and just 206 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: kind of navigating streets. All the streets are a little 207 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: harder to navigate. I have to see it, but but 208 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: I really do. I love being there and it's always me. 209 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, me too. I mean, it's it's beautiful. It's 210 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: a fantastic country. I think. You know, the big difference 211 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: is America is bossed and you're just every state is 212 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: completely different in some ways. And in England it's sort 213 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: of quirky and old and and it's small, it's a 214 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: little island, and you know, it's it's amazing. You can 215 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: just literally go down the street and everyone's speaking completing differently. 216 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: It's so true, as you said, Yeah, it's so true. Okay. 217 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: And speaking of which, you got an ob eve from 218 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: the Queen for those of us, for us American dummies, 219 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: explained to us what that is. 220 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: Well, we've heard of people being knighted sir or lord. 221 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: That's the highest level beneath being a sir. If you're 222 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: a woman, if you're going to be the equivalent of 223 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: the sir knighthood, you get called a dame like Dame 224 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: Helen Merrin or Dame Judy Dench. Below that. Before you 225 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: become a dame, you become an officer of the British Empire, 226 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: which is what I am. Which the Beatles were at 227 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: one point, or at least they were offered it. I 228 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: think they might have whether they accept it in. 229 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: The end, I think one day yeah, something like that. 230 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's a pretty prestigious. But what's lovely 231 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: about it is it's really for representing your country and 232 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: serving your country, not just in what I do for 233 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 2: a living, but also in philanthropy. So that's what I 234 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: got it for, and so I'm very proud of it. 235 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 2: I so my actual name in England would be Jane 236 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: seymour Obe. 237 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: Oh that's cool, Yeah, that's that's my title? Was that? 238 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean, what was what's that like? Just as a day? 239 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's you know, hey, I watched 240 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: the Crown. There's got to be a lot of sort 241 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: of pomp and circumstance and a whole bunch of rules 242 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: and the things you got to do and you don't do. 243 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean, whenever I see those situations where I read 244 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: about those things, I always think to myself, I know 245 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: I would mess this up. I just know that I 246 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: would do something that wasn't wasn't right. 247 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 2: It's actually it's the coolest things. First of all, they 248 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: tell you in secrets, so you're not like to tell 249 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: anyone for months, and if you do tell anyone or 250 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: anyone finds out, they'll take it away from you before 251 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: you get kidding me. Wow. No. And actually my mentor 252 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: from ballet school is a wonderful choreographer and was a 253 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: male leading dancer in the line of festival called Ben 254 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: Stephenson ran She'ston Ballet and then Ballet Texas. Anyway, he 255 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: called me up and said, guess what I got? The 256 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: ob and I went, I couldn't tell him that I 257 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: had it too, so I said, Ben, are you sure 258 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: you're supposed to be telling people I don't don't Anyway, 259 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: randomly I ended up having getting my obia on exactly 260 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: the same day as him, So we were there together, 261 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: which was absolutely magical. And at the palace it is 262 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: pomp and circumstances, but the people there are just so 263 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: lovely and they they make light of the whole thing 264 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: and said, well, you know, go learn how to bound 265 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: Curtsey and you're good to meet the Queen. You have 266 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,119 Speaker 2: to you know, you have to walk three paces backwards 267 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: afterwards in bowen and same ma'am and all of that, 268 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: so they give you a sort of crash course in it. 269 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: But it was absolutely magical. My mother was there and 270 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: I mean she was so proud and so excited. You know, 271 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: none of my family ever thought I'd ever do anything. 272 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I was a ballet dancer who was born 273 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: with flat feed as speech impediments, so the chances of 274 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: me had been working as a dancer was slim to none, 275 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: and they were all totally against it. Used to saying 276 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: don't put your daughter on the stage, missus Worthington to 277 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: me all the time, and I was just obsessed. I 278 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: was determined. And I actually started out as a dancer 279 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: who sang and then became an actress who you know 280 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: occasionally dances. 281 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow wow. And was your friend surprised to 282 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: see you there? 283 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: Yes? 284 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: Had you? Had you since? Had you since? Let them know? 285 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: I he got to know when it was announced in 286 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: the world it was the New Year's Honor's list, and 287 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: then he found out, and then I told him. But 288 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: they had different dates when you go, and they knight 289 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: people at the same time, so they do all the 290 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: knighthood stuff as well. You're in the same group with 291 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: everybody else. 292 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: You know. What I'm struck with talking to you is 293 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: you seem to have just a tremendous amount of energy 294 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: and spirit. And I mean, it's it's it's it's as 295 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: though I can just kind of feel your power through 296 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: this you know, headphone and computer thing. And I'm wondering, 297 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: if you know, I'm coming to the point now in 298 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: my life where a lot of people around me or 299 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: also people have kind of implied to me questions about 300 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: are you ready to start, you know, taking your foot 301 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: off the gas in whatever reason that is, and that 302 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be coming from you, as far as 303 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: I can tell you. No. 304 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: Actually, I would say the most amazing. Well, you know, 305 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: for actresses, it's usually you're pretty down at fourteen. At 306 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: forty I got this little series called Doctor Gwinn, which 307 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: no one ever thought be a series. And then now 308 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: at seventy I got another series in Ireland called Harry Wild, 309 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 2: and that's taken off in fact, her second season I 310 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: think just starts today. But I'm I mean, I'm just 311 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: so blessed. And I also produce, I write books. I'm 312 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 2: writing a crime novel at the moment, I'm doing my memoirs. 313 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: I run philanthropy. I'm very involved in that. I'm a 314 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: public speaker. I'm a painter, sculpturests. I have major sculptures 315 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 2: of open hearts going up in major cities. And I've 316 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 2: become very much an advocate and talk a great deal 317 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: about aging gracefully and about Alzheimer's and dementia. I made 318 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 2: a documentary with Glenn Campbell called I'll be Me All 319 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 2: About Yeah. 320 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: By the way, I love that documentary. How did you 321 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: happen to get involved with that? I wanted to ask 322 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: you about that. 323 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: Well, So I have four kids I get birth to, 324 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: and of the twins, one of them we randomly called 325 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: Johnny Keach after Johnny Cash, was our very close friend 326 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 2: because he was on Doctor Quinn several times. And the 327 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: other one we called Chris after Chris Reeve. So Johnny 328 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 2: turns out to become a rock musician, a great singer songwriter. 329 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 2: When my son was on tour, he was opening originally 330 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: he was opening for Cheap Trick when he was fifteen, 331 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: up and down in Europe and up and down the 332 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 2: West Coast, and I was a band's worst nightmare. A mody. 333 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: What is a mody, you may ask. It is a 334 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: mother roady. It's what you really don't want but you 335 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: absolutely needed. He said, Mom, we can get ourselves up. 336 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 2: We're a band, we can go. We can get up. 337 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 2: And I said really. And so the next morning they 338 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: were not up. So I knocked him the door and 339 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 2: I said, what happened, guys? You know you're late? And 340 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: they said the alarm didn't go up, and I said, 341 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: what do you do? He said, we called the front desk. 342 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 2: It didn't they didn't call And I said, why is 343 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: the phone off the hook? And they said, we didn't 344 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 2: want to be disturbed. That's why you need a mother roady. 345 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: That's the greatest. 346 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: If you want to hear him, he's under Johnny Keach 347 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: k E A H. And he was discovered at thirteen 348 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 2: by some from Warner Brothers. And the next time we 349 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: know that producer Julian Raymond came to us one day 350 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 2: having worked with Johnny and his band they were now 351 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: fifteen years old maybe, and said, I've just finished doing 352 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: Glenn Campbell's latest album and he's got to go on tour, 353 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: but he's got Alzheimer's and so we're worried that he 354 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 2: can't even perform, let alone tour. But somebody's got to 355 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: make a movie of this, so documented and we had 356 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: made the movie Walk the Line about Johnny Cash. Johnny 357 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: Cash gave us the rights to his life. We worked 358 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: on it Jim Mangel. They ended up directing it, but 359 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 2: somehow my name was not all the credits, which is interesting, 360 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: probably why I'm tervorced. But we worked from that for 361 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: eleven years. So they knew the Campbell's knew that we 362 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: could be trusted, and we met with Glenn and he 363 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 2: was hilarious. So we just thought, Okay, we'll try this, 364 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: and it was in the most amazing experience. But it 365 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 2: all came because of Julian and Raymond, and it was 366 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: an extraordinary experience. I mean, to this day, I'm very 367 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: close to all the Campbell's. I certainly learned more about 368 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 2: Alzheimer's could possibly imagine. The last thing to go with 369 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: Glenn was his music. He could still sing and play. 370 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: Of course, he'd repeat the song, so you had to 371 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: kind of make sure that he didn't. And at one point, 372 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 2: after we'd finished filming and things were really getting bad, 373 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: I took him into my art studio and he'd never 374 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: painted before, and I gave him a palette knife and 375 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: his favorite colors and a big canvas and he did 376 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: three amazing canvases whilst singing Rhystone Cowboy. And meanwhile, his wife, 377 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 2: Kim was at another easel, which we unfotunately didn't film, 378 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: and she ended up painting a big, dark, black ray 379 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: hole because that's where she was, and he was out 380 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: there on you know, all these beautiful bright blues and greens, reds, 381 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: just you know, very vibrant and lively and around him. 382 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: You know, it was his caregiver who was having a 383 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: really rough time just seeing what she comes out of art. 384 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: You know, that is it's so interesting what comes out 385 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: of art. And I honestly think that there's a lot 386 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: to be said for just somebody that says, I just 387 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: don't I don't paint, I don't draw, I don't do art, 388 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: or I don't sculpt or whatever. It is just putting 389 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: the putting the whatever the medium is in their hands 390 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: and seeing seeing what comes out. I mean, it's it's, 391 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: it's it's it's fascinating, probably sometimes insightful and and and 392 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: in this case maybe you know, therapeutic to a certain extent. Uh, 393 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: I had a you know, I love Glenn Campbell, you know, 394 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: as a singer, is an incredible guitar player. Kind of 395 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: people don't even a lot of people don't know that 396 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: that that was a lot of what he did was 397 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: just amazing session playing. And if anybody hasn't seen this movie, 398 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: get Glenn Campbell. Uh, I'll be me, I'll be me, 399 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: I'll be me. 400 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: Right. 401 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: It's actually interesting when we made it, Glenn forgets who 402 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: we were, even though we were working with the Membridge. 403 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 2: And one day he said, I'm doing what he said, 404 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: We're making it feel like your life. He said, you are, 405 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: and then he paused and he said, I'll be meet. 406 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: Oh so that's how we got the title. He came 407 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: out in his mouth, he said, oh, well then I'll 408 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: be meaty. Great. That was it done? And does it? 409 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 2: It is a fantastic documentary. 410 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: I was on a flight with him one time and 411 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: I was so excited to be on the airplane with 412 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: and he was kind of you know, you could kind 413 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: of see that he was sort of in and out 414 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: and I wasn't. We had a we had an exchange, 415 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: you know, by the by the bathroom on you know, 416 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: kind of passing the bathroom and and you know, he 417 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I wasn't really sure if if he recognized 418 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: me or you know, knew who I was. He was 419 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: very very sweet, very friendly, and then when we were 420 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: getting off the plane, he handed me a signature pick 421 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: guitar pick. Yeah, and I was, I was, I was 422 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: just you know, it's just one of those moments. I'm 423 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: never all that jazz or thunderstruck when I meet actors, 424 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: because I work with actors all the time, and you know, 425 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: but when it comes to you know, sort of heroic, iconic, musicians, 426 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, that always kind of hits me, and that 427 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: was that was a great moment meeting Case. Yeah, yeah, 428 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: he was. He was quite quite an interesting man and 429 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: just a great spirit and obviously great musician. Tell me 430 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: about your art, I mean there's some there's you're doing 431 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: so much. There's so much to talk about, Uh, I 432 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: want to know. Let me ask you first about the sculpture. 433 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I'll just backtrack in that I 434 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 2: could have gone to college to do art, but I 435 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: was a ballet dancer and wanting to be an actress, 436 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: so I didn't. And I also, at the age of 437 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 2: fifteen because my parents couldn't afford my education, that learned 438 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: the ballet shoes I used to design to make my 439 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 2: own clothes and embroider and nets and crochet and sell them. 440 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: So I had a business at fifteen making his things. 441 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: So by the time I turned forty, I went through 442 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: a terrible divorce, lost everything, and literally it was you know, 443 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: nine million in the red the lawsuits from every major bank, 444 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: including the FDIC, and I gave the last money I 445 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: had with a child abuse organization called child Help, and 446 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: in return for an artist to a drawing of my children, 447 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: because I didn't understand what bankruptcy was. And he saw 448 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: my finger paintings in the house and just said, oh, 449 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: do paint as it not really, and he gave me 450 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: free lessons. So I started out with nothing but the 451 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 2: ability to do watercolors. And so when I immediately went 452 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 2: and did dot Quinn, I would paint on set. You know, 453 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: other people did the crossword puzzle, all learn their lines. 454 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 2: I learnt my lines whilst painting watercolors. And then I 455 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 2: ended up, you know, on a credit card for Discover 456 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: with my painings in the Gougennheim, and then in a book, 457 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: and then you know, all kinds of things. Corbelle asked 458 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: me to do a champagne bottle and then and then 459 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: I was asked to you a campaign for women's heart health, 460 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: and so obviously you draw a heart, but I left 461 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: the heart open. I thought that's interesting, and why did 462 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: I do that? And I thought, well, my mother, you know, 463 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: who had gone through World War Two in a Japanese 464 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 2: prisoner of war camp three and a half years. She 465 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: was a Dutch native of living in Indonesia, had always 466 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: told me that in life everyone has challenge and when 467 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: they do the natural thing is you close off your 468 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: heart and you don't let anyone know. And it's like 469 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: a long playing record with a scratch in it, and 470 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: it's just this story goes round around. You just can't 471 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 2: get out, you can't move forward. Said the hardest thing 472 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: to do in life is to accept the unacceptable. But 473 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: if you can, and you can open up your heart 474 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: and reach out to help someone else, you will have purpose. 475 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: And said that is the key to happiness in life, 476 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 2: is you have a purpose. And she said, and you've 477 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 2: been through something, you see someone who's going down, you 478 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: know that that path, and you can help them in 479 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: some way. And so I thought, well, that's like two 480 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 2: hearts that connect. So I drew one heart and connected 481 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: it to the other heart. And at first it looks 482 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: and I went, oh, it's like booms in the butt. 483 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: We all are. And now no, actually there's something very iconic. 484 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: It's almost it's almost like an infinity. But it was 485 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: too hot, so I I said, you know, maybe I 486 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: should trademark this, and my then husband, James Keep, said, 487 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: don't be ridiculous. You can't trademark hearts. I said, well, 488 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: coming at least try, and it costs money. And the 489 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: next day, you know, the lawyer comes back and says, 490 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 2: you're not going to believe it, but Jane has actually 491 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: managed to trademark something that no one's been able to do. 492 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: So it became this image originally in watercolor, and then 493 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: I turned it into sculpture, and which is really lovely 494 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: because people go to, you know, different places where the 495 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: sculpture is and they get to pose there and climb 496 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: all over it, and you know, it's meaningful. 497 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: How do you actually do this? How do you do 498 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: sculpt I'm always amazing. It's because of some of your 499 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: sculpture is very large, right, Well, what you. 500 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: Do is you start with the small one, okay you 501 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: but you do. You have a wire underneath it, and 502 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: then you add the clay to it, and then you keep, 503 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: you know, sculpting away till it's the way you want it. 504 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: Because the interesting with sculpture it has to work three dimensionally, 505 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 2: So every time you've got it right in front of you, 506 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: then you turn its sight to the side and suddenly 507 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: you have to start all over again because it's listing 508 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 2: in the wrong directions. It's much harder to do than 509 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 2: you imagine. And I also sculpt people's faces and you know, 510 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 2: bodies as well. I learned how to do all it, 511 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 2: but this one, once I got it right as a 512 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: smaller sculpture, I then took it to a foundry and 513 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: I said, I want to now do an eight foot one, 514 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: and how do I do it? And so this sculpting 515 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: guy was fantastic. He built what they call an armature, 516 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 2: I think it's called so big, a big you know, 517 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: metal piece to go underneath. And then the first one 518 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: is done with polystyrene, you know, with that like that 519 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: stuff that people packing stuff, that white stuff. Until I 520 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: got that exactly right you could sculpt that. And then 521 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: he took it away and put it in what's called 522 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: lost wax, which is this very heavy, very very solid 523 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: red wax. And then I came in and sculpted into 524 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: that until it was right. And when that was right 525 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: to me, then they take it to a foundry. They 526 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 2: cut it into like three or four pieces, they make 527 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: a mold, they you know, they they do it in bronze, 528 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: and then they bring it back and solder it together. 529 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: I didn't do any of the soldering. I chose what 530 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: I wanted for the finish, and then I came in 531 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 2: and you know, sinessa with the finish, and that's it. 532 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: That's how you did. 533 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: Okay. So you wake up one morning, any morning, random morning, 534 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: and you say, okay, how are you going to break 535 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: down your day between working on your novel, sculpting, painting, 536 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: learning lines, working with the foundation, raising children a family. 537 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: I don't understand how that day breaks down. 538 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: Okay. Well, first of all, I'm very fortunate to have 539 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 2: a lovely home that has enough space in it to 540 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: have my art studio. I have a recording area, we 541 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: grow all our vegetables in the garden. We've got chickens, 542 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: so I don't actually really have to need the house. 543 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: If I didn't want to. I can do a lot 544 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: of it here. I you know, I obviously have a 545 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: point where things had to do if I'm filming. When 546 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: I was filming, I was in Ireland, So then I 547 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: have to move to a tiny little house and do 548 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: everything from there. And I'm a bit like you. I'm 549 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: not complete, you know. I can usually break it. Anything 550 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: to do with the computer, I can just look at 551 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: it and it doesn't work. But today I got lucky. 552 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: But otherwise I take my paints from me wherever I go, 553 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: I right wherever I am. I'm working on the memoir 554 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: with someone, so I can basically tell all the stories 555 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: and they'll put them in the right order and then 556 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: we'll both look at it again. So I do it 557 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: that way. When I produce depends on whether I'm producing 558 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: and I'm in it or not. I mean, you know 559 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: what that's like. But you surround yourself for the best, 560 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: so you know the art of delegation. But at the 561 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: same time, I'm really being on top of it, and 562 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: I'm a multitasking I think when you have that many 563 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: children and grandchildren, you do other things in life. You 564 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: have to be a multitasker. And I can really focus 565 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: on one thing to the exclusion of everything else for 566 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: a while and then shut it off and then go 567 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: on to do something else. But yeah, I tide it. 568 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 4: If you're inspired by today's episode, please join us in 569 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 4: supporting six Degrees by texting the word Bacon to seven 570 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 4: zero seven zero seven zero. Your gift empowers us to 571 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 4: continue to produce programs that highlight the incredible work of 572 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 4: everyday heroes, well also enabling us to provide essential resources 573 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 4: to those that need it the most. Once again, text 574 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 4: b a con to seven zero seven zero seven zero, 575 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 4: or visit six degrees dot org to learn more. 576 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: Well, let's move on to the foundation. So on top 577 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: of everything else, you are extremely philanthropic and you have 578 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: the Open Hearts Foundation, and we would like to bring 579 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: on Trina Pritchard, who is the director executive director of 580 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: your foundation. A lot of what this podcast is about 581 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: is being able to hang out in the first half 582 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: with someone like you, Jane, who is so incredible across 583 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: so many different parts of the entertainment industry, and just 584 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: be able to connect and shoot the breeze. But also 585 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: we want to give the microphone to the people who 586 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: are behind the scenes and running the foundations having to 587 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: do with the things that you care about. So, Trina, 588 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Where are you? 589 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: Where are you right now? 590 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: Well, I'm actually in Jane's art gallery. 591 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 5: Jane has a beautiful art gallery in Westlake Village in California, 592 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 5: and she donates a portion of the office space to 593 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 5: the foundation so I can operate out of it. 594 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: Oh that's great, that's fantastic. I didn't I didn't realize that. 595 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: Is it are there? Is it mostly your work in there, Jane? 596 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: Or is a bunch of artists and my son sew 597 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: and Flynn Photography. You can check him out. We have 598 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: some of his work that I'm hoping to put my daughter, 599 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: Katie Jay Flynn in as well. She's been doing really 600 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: well with her photography. But otherwise it's pretty much mostly 601 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: mine and there's a lot there also the jewelry that 602 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: I did with Open Hearts, and also costumes from Dr 603 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: Quinn and some memorabilia and also some iconic photograph photographs 604 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: done by major people of me over the years. So 605 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: it's actually a really kind of fun place to visit. 606 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: It's sort of the world of Jane. 607 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: I was wondering if there were any of the you 608 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: said you started some of the doing the watercolor during 609 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: Doctor Quinn, and do you have any of those there? 610 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I have everything going back. In fact, I've even 611 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: managed to find pieces my mother had kept from that 612 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 2: I did when I was ten years old, so we 613 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: go all the way back. But yes, there's everthing's there. 614 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: I think Susan Nazelutz runs what's called Coral Canyon Publishing. 615 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: She works with me and she works out of there, 616 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: and I used to do about twelve woman shows all 617 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: over the country in Canada every year until I was 618 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: working too much as an actress and you know, COVID 619 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: and other kinds of things. But when we had COVID 620 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 2: and with the foundation, we kept asking ourselves, you know, 621 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: if we can't put on a big event, how do 622 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 2: we raise money out awareness. So one of the things 623 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: I did is I would teach art to people in 624 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: old people's homes who were stuck and couldn't even see 625 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: their relatives, and we'd paint together for a couple of hours. 626 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 2: And one time I also painted with a woman who 627 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: was wheelchair bounded, actually in hospice at the time. I 628 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: think she had als, and I actually showed her how 629 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: she could move one hand and the other and she 630 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: did all these amazing paintings just before she passed. So 631 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: we did a lot of that. So art was I 632 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: find very healing, and it's also been a great way 633 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: to raise funds for the foundation too. 634 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: So Trina tell us about the foundation, is what is 635 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: the work that you do? 636 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 5: Sure? So, I mean, you know, we were founded by 637 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 5: Jane's mother's philosophy. 638 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: If you guys have heard, you. 639 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 5: Know that in times of great trouble, you have to 640 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 5: accept what's happening and do what you can to help 641 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 5: others and by doing so, your heart remains open. So 642 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 5: this philosophy is really what drives the Foundation's mission and 643 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 5: it's it motivates us to keep going and help people 644 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 5: every single day. And it's over the years since we've 645 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 5: been around, we were founded in twenty ten, we've really 646 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 5: become a movement of like minded people working together for 647 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 5: the greater good. Mika really believes that where there was adversity, 648 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,959 Speaker 5: there is opportunity. In those internment camps, she really had 649 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 5: nothing but created so much for so many people and 650 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 5: helped others, and that's the way that she was able 651 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 5: to survive those conditions. And we relate the foundation identify 652 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 5: charities like that that are on the front lines, that 653 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 5: have limited resources, small and emerging charities. We've focused primarily 654 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 5: on women and children's issues, but a lot of people 655 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 5: that need help and we empower them through our grants 656 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 5: and through our volunteerism efforts. 657 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's interesting because generally I find that 658 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: well known people will pick one sort of wow, where 659 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 1: did those balloons come from? 660 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 2: No idea, not me, It's just the energy that's flowing 661 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: with us. All. 662 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: Okay, for those of you who are seeing my zoom 663 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: just had balloons go up in the background. 664 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 2: Mind mind it too, yes, oh, used it too. 665 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: Wow. I wonder if I hope that is some kind 666 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: of strange act going on. Yeah, okay, well well let's yeah, 667 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: let's let's let's yeah, let's call it energy. Yeah. You know, 668 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: I uh, when when we started six degrees dot Org, 669 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 1: I was kind of struck with so many things that 670 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: I was kind of cared about and overwhelmed with. So 671 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: I think that in a lot of ways, it's it's 672 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: a little bit easier to just pick you know, whatever 673 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: it is the environment or or hunger or whales or 674 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and having there. But there 675 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: are similarities between our foundations in that it's it's a 676 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: it's more of a kind of across the board thing 677 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: and and a and a and an idea, I mean, 678 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 1: the idea of an open heart, the idea of uh 679 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: what your mom in that terrible situation, you know, discovered 680 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: about life and about human beings? Is is the is 681 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 1: the driving force of the of the foundation. It seems 682 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: to me. 683 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 2: Well, I think the real issue is I meet people 684 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 2: all the time who say, oh, I wish I knew 685 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 2: what to donate to I, you know, I don't really 686 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 2: know whether they actually get the money or whether they 687 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 2: should or how much they spend on other things. And 688 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 2: so what we really are doing, as as Traina says, 689 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 2: we're kind of a movement. We're kind of anyone really 690 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: wants to help, they can help with ten dollars, they 691 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: can help with time, they can buy by volunteering. We 692 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 2: have a whole volunteering program, and they can. You know, 693 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 2: people come to us with all these different organizations. We 694 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 2: vet them. There's thousands to go through to find the 695 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 2: right ones, but we do. We We thought, rather than 696 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 2: reinventing whatever is there and being yet another you know, 697 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 2: comes throughout Alzheimer's or heart disease or environment, we wanted 698 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 2: to fill in the gaps where there was normous need 699 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 2: and the amount of money we would give them would 700 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 2: go much further than it would anywhere else. So we're 701 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 2: kind of curating for people. So if anyone really wants 702 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 2: to give back and wants to be part of that 703 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 2: kind of movement and really does want to help others, 704 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 2: they can with us. And that's what we do. And 705 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 2: so we have we have people who donate from all 706 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 2: over the world we have. We have it's you know, donating. 707 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 2: We had My daughter Katie Flynn has got this amazing 708 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 2: program that she's got of volunteers where their doctor's volunteering, 709 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 2: but they're bringing their kids and the kids are volunteering 710 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 2: and they're starting out their own programs and with volunteers 711 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 2: with beehives. One of them is called I mean, it's 712 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 2: just marvelous. And if you think about it as a 713 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 2: movement and that what we are doing is curating that movement. 714 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: That's what we're doing. And Trina's pretty much, you know, 715 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 2: the almost the only person that is paid to work 716 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 2: in our foundation. We have an incredible board of people 717 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 2: who work so hard, don't they, Trina? I mean yeah, 718 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 2: unpaid and literally I mean gives so much to their 719 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 2: time and expertise and we couldn't do it without them. 720 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: And then we have fans who've just been enormously supportive. 721 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: We always have a big event or if it's not COVID, 722 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 2: I think the next one is February eighteenth, ze, right, 723 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 2: but verse seventeenth, Yeah, seventeenth, who I know, it's right 724 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: close to my birthday. My birth is the fifteenth, and 725 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 2: that's always enormously good fun and people literally come from 726 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 2: all over the world for it. And then the rest 727 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 2: of the year we do all kinds of other fundraise. 728 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 2: In fact, we have one coming up on October fifteenth, 729 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 2: which is called chit Chat with Meeka. My mother's name 730 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 2: is Meeka. Normally it's called chit Chat with Kitty Cat 731 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 2: or Chitchat with Solitaire, or chit Chat with Mikayla Quinn 732 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 2: And it's usually a chance for people to donate and 733 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 2: join the Zoom and for a couple of hours we 734 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 2: all talk about and they ask me questions about something 735 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 2: I played. Well, in this case, we're actually talking about 736 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 2: my mother, who she was, and other people who knew her, 737 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 2: and stories they have to tell about her and how 738 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 2: that pertains to what we're doing with the Open Heart Foundation. 739 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 2: And then that money will yet again go into the 740 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 2: kitchen and be sent to all these amazing organizations. 741 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: So in order to join the Zoom, then you donate 742 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: to join the Zoom, or if you join the Zoom, 743 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: then you donate afterwards. Oh that's a really cool idea. 744 00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. 745 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, we came up with that during the pandemic when 746 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 5: we couldn't be in person and we needed to raise money, 747 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 5: and you know, Jane graciously is giving of her time 748 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 5: and obviously her life's experiences, but this particular one is 749 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 5: really important because it is Meeka's story and Jane's story 750 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 5: and the family story that really sort of drives us 751 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 5: forward and supports the work. 752 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,479 Speaker 2: That we do, the grants that we give. 753 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 5: You know, we've supported over sixty charities since we were founded, 754 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 5: and they're all over the United States. Some of them 755 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 5: are not so emerging anymore, and we're really excited about 756 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 5: that they've grown so much and they're so successful that 757 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 5: they don't need our help anymore. And some we've just 758 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 5: discovered through, as Jane said, are em vetting process that 759 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 5: we go through when we do our grant cycles. And 760 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 5: the volunteerism program is just like just beginning to take shape. 761 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 5: And we had a bunch of ideas that we were 762 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 5: going to do with the pandemic. 763 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 2: Of course, with the. 764 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 5: Lockdown, we had to turn to virtual opportunities, but still 765 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 5: we sent cards to seniors isolated and senior centers all 766 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 5: across the United States, and we've been able to plant 767 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 5: trees and grasses at Paramount Ranch to restore from the 768 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 5: woosey fires that we're here in Los Angeles, so there's 769 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 5: a lot to do. I think the whole point is 770 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 5: that everybody can do something to help someone else, and 771 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 5: by doing that, you find purpose, you keep your heart open, 772 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 5: that sort of ripple effect keeps going. 773 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: That's great, that's great, And Treta, let me ask yourselthing, 774 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: what is it that brought you to doing this kind 775 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: of work. I'm always fascinated when someone chooses a life 776 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 1: or a career path that has to do with service. 777 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 5: Sures. I think I've kind of always been a person 778 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 5: of service. It was a big part of what my 779 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 5: mother taught my sister and I when we were growing up, 780 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 5: you know, always helping other people. She still helps people today. 781 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 5: She's going to be eighty next year. But sony years ago, 782 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 5: I decided to make a career transition. I didn't want 783 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 5: to just kind of get a desk job. I wanted 784 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 5: to actually make a difference in the world and sort 785 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 5: of align my personal values with the work that I 786 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 5: do from nine to five. So I've been fortunate to 787 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 5: work with a lot of small and large charities across 788 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 5: the Greater Los Angeles area. You know, it's the work 789 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 5: that actually inspires me and helps to keep me motivated 790 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 5: and going. But I've been able to help children in 791 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 5: public school learn through the arts, help small featers in 792 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 5: Los Angeles learn how to grow their audiences. I've worked 793 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 5: for Big Brothers Big Sisters of Greater Los Angeles, and 794 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 5: this work that I've been fortunate to be a part 795 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 5: of for the past four years has just opened my 796 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 5: eyes to the folks that really need the help, the 797 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 5: boots on the ground, the communities that just don't have 798 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:56,760 Speaker 5: food or shelter or clothing. So I've been I've really 799 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 5: enjoyed the work we've been doing here. 800 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 2: And how I mean, we deal with with battered women, 801 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 2: We deal with children, have incarcerated adults. We deal with 802 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 2: women who've done their time and are trying to get, 803 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 2: you know, back into the workforce. We a lot of 804 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 2: food insecurity, huge amount. What else are we dealing with, Oh, 805 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 2: foster girls, you know, coming out and having having babies 806 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 2: and not knowing you know, how to fill in the 807 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 2: forms or what they're entitled to, or how to eat 808 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 2: and take care of the child let alone themselves. I mean, 809 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 2: you know, things you don't think about. And then of 810 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 2: course you know the cares people who are looking up 811 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 2: to people with disabilities. And when when when Christopher Reeve 812 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 2: was around, we supported a wonderful organization's doing really when 813 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 2: I called life Roles on the Jesse Bellio who we 814 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 2: who takes people who just kids who've just been become 815 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 2: paralyzed and it ties them to surf boards and brings 816 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 2: them out with the famous self is out out on 817 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 2: the surf. I mean just saw that this weekend. So 818 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things you don't think about that 819 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,439 Speaker 2: make a huge, huge difference. And one of the things 820 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 2: that we're proud of is it will give you know, 821 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 2: our grand but then locally the people go with that's 822 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 2: in our neighborhood. Wow, that's really cool, and then'll double 823 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 2: or triple it. Yeah, so that's what's very cool. Yeah. 824 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 5: The verb in our mission is too empower. So we 825 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 5: do provide the grant, but we also offer the opportunity 826 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 5: for them to use our grant as a matching grant, 827 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 5: which they offer and leverage and so they'll raise double triple. 828 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 5: I think the record so far is raising thirteen times 829 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 5: the amount that we've granted them by leveraging our grant 830 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 5: and our organization. 831 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 1: Times that's incredible. 832 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 2: I know, I know. 833 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:54,280 Speaker 5: It was a Creighton Community Foundation in Arizona. They serve 834 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,879 Speaker 5: the Creighton Community School District and they had a food bank. 835 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 5: This was right like in June the pandemic, and we 836 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 5: gave them a fifteen thousand dollars grant. They wanted to 837 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 5: go from once a month to twice a month to 838 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 5: be giving food out to their area. And they took 839 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 5: that fifteen thousand dollars grant and they doubled it with 840 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 5: their community. 841 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 2: And then they took that money and they. 842 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 5: Wrote a for a state grant and cut double that 843 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 5: and then they went to their dollar that year and 844 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 5: they announced this whole thing and they raised. 845 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 2: I think they raised like over three hundred thousand dollars 846 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 2: in that year. 847 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 848 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 5: So, you know, if that's what we're about, that ripple effect, 849 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 5: and you know, it's not necessarily us, it's just people 850 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 5: inspiring people to do what they can to help others. 851 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 2: And what we love is, you know, if you go 852 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 2: to Openhat's Foundation dot org, you can literally see and 853 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 2: identify with any of those charities and look deeper, do 854 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 2: a deeper dive. It's all there and you go, well, 855 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,959 Speaker 2: actually that's really interesting and maybe I'd like to work 856 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 2: with them, I'd like to do something. So you know, 857 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 2: quite often after we've introduced people to the organization and 858 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 2: we've given the grand then people go directly to that organization, 859 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 2: get involved and donate in the future. So we're kind 860 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 2: of empowering and shining a light on and identifying and 861 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 2: curating a way of giving back. And I think that's 862 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 2: what we're doing to the general population is we're saying, 863 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 2: you know, with sort of like the good housekeeping, the 864 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 2: feel of well, the Open Hearts Foundation seal of approval, 865 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 2: like you know, we've done due diligence and this is 866 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 2: who they are. And you know, you may be more 867 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 2: into cats and dogs or you know, the timers or whatever, 868 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 2: but we're pretty sure you'll find something here that you 869 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 2: know will be meaningful to you. 870 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 1: That's amazing And in fact, you actually took the words 871 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: out of my mouth because I was going to say, 872 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: how can people reach out? How can people get involved? 873 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: And it's Open Heartsfoundation dot org. That's all they need 874 00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 1: to know, correct to go there, to look for opportunities 875 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: to donate, opportunities for volunteerism, uh, connections, whatever it is 876 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: doing a deeper dive into all of these many organizations 877 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: and foundations that you're supporting. That's that's the spot. 878 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 2: And also they can let us know if they know 879 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 2: of some organization we haven't come across yet that might 880 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 2: be worthy of the you know, the next cycle of donations. 881 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 2: You know, we're always looking to see what else there is, 882 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 2: who else you know, fits fits the parameters. Usually what 883 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 2: we're looking for is a connection between someone who's been 884 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 2: through a challenge like my mother had, who's taken the 885 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 2: opportunity after that to give back and to make a difference, 886 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 2: gone out of the way to do that. So you know, 887 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 2: that's really the thing that makes the difference in the end. 888 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 5: We're we're also on our socials as well, you know, 889 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,720 Speaker 5: of course Facebook and Instagram and X or Twitter compitting 890 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 5: away you call it. 891 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to just give us a shout out of 892 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 1: those handles. 893 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 5: Sure, so they're a little bit different. So Facebook, it's 894 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 5: at Open Hearts Foundation. On Instagram it's at the Open 895 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 5: Hearts Foundation. And on Twitter or x it's at Open 896 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 5: Hearts found well. 897 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,760 Speaker 1: Of course all of those will be in our liner 898 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:20,439 Speaker 1: notes as well. 899 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 2: But thank you and if you go to James Seymour 900 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 2: with the blue dot in either Instagram or Facebook, you'll 901 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 2: see me talking about the foundations usually and link there 902 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 2: directly to the foundation. And you know, everything I do, 903 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 2: if I design jewelry, or I do do scarves, or 904 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 2: I do art, there is always a portion that goes 905 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 2: to the foundation, so I do that too. 906 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 1: That is amazing. It's great work that both of you 907 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 1: are doing. Trina Pitchford, thank you so much for being 908 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: here today, and the fantastic Jane Seymour. I'm so glad 909 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: to get this opportunity to hang out with you. And 910 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 1: we can only aspire to be as active and as 911 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: positive and as motivated and driven as you are. So 912 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: thank you for your energy here today and it's been 913 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 1: a wet well. 914 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for yours. You know you're making a big 915 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 2: difference yourself, and thank you so much for giving us 916 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 2: the privilege of being on your shop. 917 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:23,439 Speaker 1: We're thrilled to have you. Thank you. Hey, guys, thanks 918 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 1: for listening to another episode of Six Degrees with Kevin Bacon. 919 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 1: If you want to learn more about the Open Hearts 920 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: Foundation and all the work that they are up to, 921 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: just head to their website. Openheartsfoundation dot org. Openheartsfoundation dot org. 922 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,280 Speaker 1: You can find all the links in our show notes 923 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,399 Speaker 1: and listen. 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