WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Roster Machinations

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is nick Shot

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<v Speaker 1>screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys apt now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicky Spagnola, and it is a Cowboys Wednesday, as

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys back on the practice field as we speak,

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<v Speaker 1>getting set to take on the Los Angeles Chargers three

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, Dallas Time on Sunday. Bill Jones with Mickey

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<v Speaker 1>Spagnola here inside the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star

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<v Speaker 1>in Frisco, and Everson Walls at a remote location somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>where the sun is shining on Everson's face. Hello Everson. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Mickey. It's kind of a first normal week

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<v Speaker 1>we've had, right it somewhat norm it was, It was

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<v Speaker 1>normal until Everson had to leave town. And so now

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<v Speaker 1>we're back to one third of us is at a

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<v Speaker 1>remote location, but at least we can see Everson. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't referring to us. I was referring to the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>on a regular week practice, although they had the extra

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<v Speaker 1>what three days after that, right, So it's just now

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<v Speaker 1>to a regular week starting today through Sunday, and then

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<v Speaker 1>next week it's not a regular week regular The home

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<v Speaker 1>opener is a Monday night game against Philadelphia, so they

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<v Speaker 1>get an extra day next week. And it is great

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<v Speaker 1>though to see the team out on the practice field. Yes, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, they just finished up their practice

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<v Speaker 1>today and it was a you know, full practice. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they did team drills. They had to scout

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<v Speaker 1>team going. And then we can go on with all

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<v Speaker 1>the roster. What's the word massinations nations? Nice? How about that? Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>Vocabulary is improving an old age? We just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it means. Yeah, it's I've always been Can you

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<v Speaker 1>guys hear me? Yes? Okay, can you hear me? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you hear us? I don't think he hears us?

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<v Speaker 1>See yeah, everysing cannot hear us apparently, Okay, every sin

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna fix whatever is? Uh? I hear you, Everson,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't hear us? All right? So how about we

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what's going on with this roster? Then? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>let's uh take a look at it so we know

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<v Speaker 1>do we start it right tackle? We started right tackle?

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<v Speaker 1>We know. Lell Collins has been suspended five games from

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of digging I've done. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be five games. We talked about his agent

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<v Speaker 1>saying it was still in the appeal process, but it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like he doesn't have much of a chance for

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<v Speaker 1>the appeal. And another thing that I think starting to

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<v Speaker 1>get cleared up if you listen to what Jerry said yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't from so much miss tests as it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry said it sometimes it's cooperation with the process,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's sounding like that might be something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>because not only do you have to test, but whatever

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<v Speaker 1>consoling you're supposed to go through, you have to show

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<v Speaker 1>up for those two and you get negative marks if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't show up for those. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that had something to do it, but Jerry's Jerry's

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<v Speaker 1>point was there there's a consoling that takes place also,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's an entire process. So it looks like he

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<v Speaker 1>probably's gonna miss at least this game, if not five. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we've we've sort of established that now. I chatted

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<v Speaker 1>with Mike McCarthy on the taping of his Coaches show

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<v Speaker 1>last evening, and you tell me if he said anything

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<v Speaker 1>much different from this. At his press conference today, he

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<v Speaker 1>indicated that Zack Martin is staying at guard, yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>that it is Terrence Steele or tight Insecki who would

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<v Speaker 1>be starting at right tackle. And that's about what he

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<v Speaker 1>said in his press conference today, even though Jerry Jones

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday said when he was asked the question, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be Steel. Yeah, he didn't mince words. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm sure from McCarthy standpoint, he doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to give the Chargers a scouting report and people wants

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure they go through they got to go

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<v Speaker 1>through practice. But if but if it's those two guys,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, if you're not moving Zach out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>we can talk about his reasons for maybe doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>then I think it's Steel. I think he's more versatile,

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<v Speaker 1>more mobile, maybe not as strong, not as big. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think I pointed this out yesterday, if it is

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<v Speaker 1>Steel over there, then the tight end better be in

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<v Speaker 1>his hip pocket and saying you've got to have two

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends on the field all the time. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think you have to make an adjustment. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>make a concession that if Steal's out there and Joey

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<v Speaker 1>Bosa's across from you can't let Joey Bosa ruin this

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<v Speaker 1>kid that came into the league as an undrafted rookie.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he started fourteen games last year. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>made great strides in the off season. I pointed out

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday that he was one of the ten guys that

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<v Speaker 1>won the Workout Award in the off season. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at what happened during training camp, he was

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<v Speaker 1>playing both sides. He started on the right, he ended

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<v Speaker 1>up on the left as the backup. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that to me, that tells me that they had more

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in him than the veteran Naseecki, who you would

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<v Speaker 1>think would be for sure can play the right side,

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<v Speaker 1>but they got to let him work on the left side. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they switched that up towards the end of training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Sou from McCarthy standpoint, he still say we're working on

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<v Speaker 1>the combination, but it sounds like the combination is Steal

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<v Speaker 1>and Secky. And you know last week he was on

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<v Speaker 1>the injury report, by the way, for a day or so,

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<v Speaker 1>and he missed time in training camp. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably steal and then well they'll go from there

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<v Speaker 1>and see what happens. So now you ask why won't

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<v Speaker 1>they move Zach Martin out there? Okay, I'll ask that,

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<v Speaker 1>why won't they move Zach Martin out there? And you

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<v Speaker 1>know I was a promote proponent of it too, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And McCarthy answered that question today basically saying that Zach

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<v Speaker 1>at guard, you know, he can give help to the

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<v Speaker 1>tackle and communication type stuff, and he can help the

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<v Speaker 1>center too, who's basically in his first full year of starting.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he started like four or five games last

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<v Speaker 1>year before he got hurt. So this is his sixth

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<v Speaker 1>NFL start, Yes, Tyler be So now you got Zach

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle there, and you know he can help

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<v Speaker 1>out there, and I think so coming off COVID, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't practiced in more than well not ten practice days,

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<v Speaker 1>but ten days since he was on COVID reserve. And

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<v Speaker 1>who knows. You may think, well, I better bring him

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<v Speaker 1>back and put him someplace initially where it's comfortable with

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<v Speaker 1>and then see if we can compensate for not having

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<v Speaker 1>Lel Collins on the outside by using our tight ends

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<v Speaker 1>in the running back to help him out in pass protection. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you go back and look at Washington last week, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had a rookie, Sam caused me at right tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>and boy Bosa just flies off the screen at you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can you can tell that he's the

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<v Speaker 1>guy you got to be worried about. Did they give

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<v Speaker 1>him help? There were times that they did not give

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<v Speaker 1>him help that he and uh he came. He came

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<v Speaker 1>pretty hard off that hitch. Yeah. So, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're in a three they're in a three four.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you go three wide receivers, you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>even if he's at playing linebacker in that three four,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still lining up the line of scrimmage and you

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<v Speaker 1>know he's coming right. Um, and he's a load uh so. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And then they were in a lot of four man front.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're going with your three wide receiver set, he's

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<v Speaker 1>in a four man front. And then move him around.

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<v Speaker 1>But I saw him. He was seemed to be most

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<v Speaker 1>effective coming from a left defensive end against the rookie

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<v Speaker 1>right tackle from Texas. Sam caused me, so, oh, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to go up against another tackle that's not

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<v Speaker 1>like it's college ball in techs that's right Texas tech

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<v Speaker 1>yep So So anyway, um, otherwise, as far as practice goes,

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<v Speaker 1>so we know Randy Gregory has been placed on reserve COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's not out there and we'll see where that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, I can see Everson now, Yah, Everson has

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<v Speaker 1>reappeared on the screen. He can hear us, I can

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<v Speaker 1>hear you. All right, all right, all right, So what's

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<v Speaker 1>the what's the deal with Gregory? He has an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to play, right, Well, it's an opportunity to it maybe slim, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But so I think they have to operate now as

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<v Speaker 1>if you know they're not going to have him. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>that means you know, and McCarthy mentioned it today. More

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<v Speaker 1>more snaps for Dorin's armstrong. They'll need him to step up.

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<v Speaker 1>More STAPs from Terrell basham, we need to play then

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Martin correct say that again he will have a

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<v Speaker 1>better opportunity to play and come off the list than

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<v Speaker 1>uh was it Zach Martin had correct? Oh you mean

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<v Speaker 1>off the COVID list? Yeah, last week? Uh he does.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, as McCarthy said today, normally when we've had

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<v Speaker 1>guys test positive, it's been a ten day period, not

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<v Speaker 1>a five day period. So I think going forward they

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<v Speaker 1>have to assume they're not going to have him which

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<v Speaker 1>means you know, you've got at least three guys. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned U Dorrin's Armstrong, Terrell Basham, Uh Bradley and

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<v Speaker 1>I can play there. I you know, Bret Urban could

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<v Speaker 1>probably go out there if they needed him to. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>and then uh boy, and you better keep DeMarcus Lawrence

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<v Speaker 1>on the field right because now you're starting to get

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<v Speaker 1>a little thin going up against the quarterback. You better

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<v Speaker 1>get pressure on him. You know. I think there's seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be like there's this sense of relief out there that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we survived Tom Brady on no loss, but it was close. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this kid is pretty darned good. You better be careful

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<v Speaker 1>with them. So we'll see how they feel that defensive

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<v Speaker 1>end spot on the on the right side. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>it always the right side, the right tackle, the right

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<v Speaker 1>defensive end. I thought d Law played extremely well in

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<v Speaker 1>the ball game. Of course, we all bring up that

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<v Speaker 1>they had no pressures necessarily, they didn't have any sacks.

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<v Speaker 1>But we know how that goes with Brady. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't cover them down the field, then yes, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have issues stopping him from throwing the ball on time.

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<v Speaker 1>But d Law was all over the field, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to make things happen. You can see there

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<v Speaker 1>was a sense of urgency in his game, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can see that he's playing with a healthier body. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see that was the whole DeMarcus Lawrence in

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<v Speaker 1>the ball game. I think he'll play pretty well this season.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm predicted right now, like like Broccoley says, I guarantee,

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee d law is gonna get two sacks this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have to write that down two sacks this

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<v Speaker 1>week Well, he was the one that forced that fumble,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't he in the game? Yes? And it was a

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<v Speaker 1>violent fum fumble hit or a fumble hit whatever, forced fumble. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he punched it out. He punched it out. Yeah Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then one other thing in practice, Donovan Wilson, they

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<v Speaker 1>held him out aggravated his groin that had been bothering

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<v Speaker 1>him prior to the start of the season. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see where that one goes. And Nashan right for personal reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>had to miss practice and to ever Sue's point about

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<v Speaker 1>DeMarcus Lawrence, Okay, we've talked about the Cowboys issues at

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<v Speaker 1>right tackle and replacing law Collins well, the Chargers have

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<v Speaker 1>their own issues at right tackle with Brian Bulaga, the

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<v Speaker 1>starter who has a back issue, and in fact, he

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<v Speaker 1>came out of their opener against Washington. He played forty

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<v Speaker 1>five plays, they had eighty one plays on offense. He

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<v Speaker 1>was in there for forty five, had to come out

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, and so and Storm Norton were replaced

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<v Speaker 1>him at right tackle. And so that is basically who

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus Lawrence is going to be going up. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a plush here, right And so I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>great prediction on your part, Everson. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>if you were aware of the fact that they've got

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<v Speaker 1>their own issues at right tackle, and so be d

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<v Speaker 1>law is going to get his number, and they sort

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<v Speaker 1>of remade their offensive man and ray Shawn Slater first

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<v Speaker 1>round picked for out of Northwestern, who a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people around here were thinking that the Cowboys might be

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<v Speaker 1>interested in taking in the first round. He's looked really

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<v Speaker 1>good U and early on in preseason and in their

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<v Speaker 1>first game also, and then they acquire the center this

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<v Speaker 1>year was either last year Corey Lindsley, Yes, this year

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<v Speaker 1>the matchup of quarterbacks though this, yes, Dak versus Justin Herbert.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the receivers for the Chargers for just

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<v Speaker 1>a second here, and the challenge it presents for the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys DBS going up against a guy like Keenan Allen

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<v Speaker 1>who is sick two bigger guy, and he's averaged one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred one hundred receptions of season the last four years.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh then they also have Mike Williams, a six

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<v Speaker 1>four target who caught a nice back shoulder touchdown from

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert against Washington and the season opener, and uh so

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<v Speaker 1>those those factor in Jared Cook, the big tight end

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<v Speaker 1>as well, who's still going strong at age whatever he is,

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<v Speaker 1>over over age thirty. Uh and uh there's some big

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<v Speaker 1>targets that Herbert has to throw too. Well. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I when I when I think of the tight end

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<v Speaker 1>that you're mentioned, you know, he always he always looked

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<v Speaker 1>like a veteran, even when he was younger with the Saints. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he always looked like a guy. He reminded.

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<v Speaker 1>He runs like Billy Joe Dupree. Yeah, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got that old man run right. But he's got the

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<v Speaker 1>great hands. If you recall Green Bay game, the right,

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<v Speaker 1>am I right? The Green Bay game where he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the great field gold rains. Don't bring that up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, don't, Oh my goodness, don't get it out.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what this team has. A quarterback that throws

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<v Speaker 1>an extremely catchable ball. When you look at how he

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<v Speaker 1>lays in there, it's like Danny White used to throw

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<v Speaker 1>it a little bit. He has a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>unf on it, and his timing is a little better.

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<v Speaker 1>But he is a quarterback that's gonna put it in

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<v Speaker 1>there where it's supposed to be. Now, as a dB,

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<v Speaker 1>you like those kind of quarterbacks because you know they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put it in there. So if you cover the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you got yourself a pig because he's gonna go on timing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna do a lot like Brady does. But their

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<v Speaker 1>passing game deals more with a deeper seventh step drop

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<v Speaker 1>than you would see coming from Tampa. The Cowboys are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to deal with in the secondary. Keenan Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>who is there with Maury Cooper. This guy's an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>route runner. You talk about the hundred receptions four years

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<v Speaker 1>that is, I can't remember how many people have done that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to only be a handful of people that

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<v Speaker 1>can say that they've done that. So this team is

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<v Speaker 1>very accomplished in this passing game. I think if we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have any opportunity that we still have to play

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<v Speaker 1>the way we have to play shut down that run.

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<v Speaker 1>Still gotta shut the run down. And I think we

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<v Speaker 1>just take our chances. As far as the passing game

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<v Speaker 1>is concerned, I think we have a few more playmakers

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<v Speaker 1>in the Secondarily. I liked the four turnouts we had,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes the fourth one was of hail Mary, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the half, but we still did

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<v Speaker 1>well with that. We are more we are a more

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<v Speaker 1>opportunistic defense now. I truly believe that, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna I think we're still gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>problems with the passing game. I'm just worried about make

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<v Speaker 1>sure we stop that run. And here's what those three

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<v Speaker 1>receivers we talked about did last week against Washington. Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Cook had five catches for fifty six yards, Mike Williams

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<v Speaker 1>had eight catches for eighty two yards in that touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>and Keenan Allen nine catches for one hundred yards. So

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<v Speaker 1>why did they only score twenty points? They turned the

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<v Speaker 1>ball over there an, there was an interception in the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone. There was a freaky fumble that should have

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<v Speaker 1>I thought should have been an incomplete pass. Herbert was

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<v Speaker 1>back to pass throwing for the left corner of the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone, got hit and they ruled it a fumble

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, and I guess there wasn't enough evidence

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<v Speaker 1>to show that he still had control of the ball

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<v Speaker 1>as he released it, and so they kept it as

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<v Speaker 1>a fumble recovered by Washington otherwise. So a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>red zone turnovers is what cost them a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>keep their score down last week. So, speaking of Herbert,

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<v Speaker 1>I started looking at the Charger's release. Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>a few mix shots on them? Yeah, an early mix

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<v Speaker 1>shot here. In the past five starts, dating back to

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<v Speaker 1>last season, Justin Herbert has led the Bolts on four

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<v Speaker 1>game winning drives in the fourth quarter or overtime. In

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<v Speaker 1>last week's game at Washington, the Chargers converted fourteen of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen third downs. The fourteen third down conversions were the

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<v Speaker 1>most by any team in the last decade in a

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<v Speaker 1>single game. This is what Herbert at quarterback. Remember he

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<v Speaker 1>was offensive ap Rookie of the Year last year. Third

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<v Speaker 1>down passing touchdowns since the start of the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>season tied for first place with Tom Brady is Justin Herbert.

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<v Speaker 1>Third down passing Rady raiding one hundred attempts since the

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<v Speaker 1>start of the twenty twenty season, Herbert is fifth at

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<v Speaker 1>one h two point five on third down and passing

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<v Speaker 1>yards leaders first sixteen career starts in pro football. Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes through for fifty one hundred yards and second Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert four thousand, six hundred and seventy five. So this

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<v Speaker 1>guy is kind of the real deal. And I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that Mike McCarthy said about him that stuck

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<v Speaker 1>out to me because of the length of their wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to consider their wide receivers always open because

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<v Speaker 1>you can throw the ball up on them even if

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<v Speaker 1>they're covered, and they'll come down with the football. So

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<v Speaker 1>just know that while I'm sure everybody out there is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of going, oh, we almost survived Tom Brady, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's pretty darn good too, just doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>same experience. All right, So, how long have we thought

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<v Speaker 1>that Justin Herbert is this type of quarterback? Well? I

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<v Speaker 1>know one person that thought about him this well, long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago, the same person who said a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>good things about Troy Aikman when he scouted him coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of UCLA some thirty two years ago. Now, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and you think we Hall of Famer, we can hear

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<v Speaker 1>Gil brand So here is This is Gilbrandt from when

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen on the Cowboys Legends radio show with two

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<v Speaker 1>guys named Bill Jones and Nicky Spagnola. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a listen to what Gil Brandt was saying about

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Herbert before years ago, before anyone had even heard

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<v Speaker 1>of Justin Herbert unless you're an Oregon Duck fan. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. The best quarterback I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>is a junior at Oregon by the name of Herbert.

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<v Speaker 1>And the interesting thing about it is he went to school,

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<v Speaker 1>he was not recruited by anybody except Mountain West. He

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<v Speaker 1>threw two touchdown passes last week by Mountain West team

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<v Speaker 1>or not Mountain West Big Sky teams and his father.

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<v Speaker 1>His father went to Oregon State, his mother went to

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Oregon State, but his grandfather went to Oregon. And the

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<v Speaker 1>grandfather's name Schwab. He was there in nineteen sixty three.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember him and Charles Schwab. This guy, this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>I think is gonna be unbelievable. Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like six to five, two hundred forty pounds and

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<v Speaker 1>he runs about four to six. Oh my wow. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, after Gil told us that I remember

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<v Speaker 1>specifically making a point to go watch an Oregon game

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<v Speaker 1>when was on television to see what this guy was

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<v Speaker 1>all about. And my reaction then as then as I

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<v Speaker 1>was there, Oh my, he was pretty darn good, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>And Herbert's grandfather, not Charles Schwab, but Rich Schwab, played

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<v Speaker 1>receiver in Oregon in the nineteen sixties and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>Gil remembers him. So Gil scotted him too, back in

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<v Speaker 1>the sixties. And Justin Herbert also grew up. According to

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<v Speaker 1>his Wikipedia page, anyway, we could always below. Yes, absolutely,

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>he grew up a San Diego Chargers fan. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>he grew up in the state of Oregon. He probably graduated.

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<v Speaker 1>He graduated from Oregon with a degree in biology. And

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<v Speaker 1>all right, this tells you how smart this justin Herbert is.

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<v Speaker 1>He was awarded the twenty nineteen William V. Campbell Trophy,

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<v Speaker 1>which is considered the academic heisman. So there you go. So,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, and Everson, this is uh specifically for you.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I was late coming back in I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and see who the interviews were with.

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:42.360
<v Speaker 1>They were supposed to be with, Ceedee lamb Ezekiel Elliott,

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Zach Martin, and DeMarcus Lawrence. Well, Dlawrence Armstrong's coming out

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 1>for DeMarcus Lawrence, and that just kind of raised my

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<v Speaker 1>antennas of I don't know, so we need to pay

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<v Speaker 1>attention to see if it's just he decided not to

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 1>come out and do that, or if something took place

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<v Speaker 1>in practice. Hmm. Oh, I hope that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>So there they were. They I think they finished the

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>other three interviews and they were waiting for Dorian's Armstrong

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>to come out. It may have just been a veteran's

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<v Speaker 1>decision could have been again, he might have looked where.

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<v Speaker 1>He might have looked where the where the cameras and

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the microphones were set up, and goes, now that's too

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<v Speaker 1>far for me to watch. Yeah, you get out there,

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<v Speaker 1>You get out there, young pup. So this this justin

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert got first of all six five? Is he six five?

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 1>He did not look? He doesn't look six five on

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the field. Was he look six seven? He looks, He looks,

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>he looks smaller, He looks smaller, almost looks a little slight.

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:56.479
<v Speaker 1>So I was very I'm very surprised to hear that

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>from Guilder, from you Upagnol. He is. And the other

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>thing is, thank god he's young now because he does throw.

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.640
<v Speaker 1>He does throw some err passes. Because the guy's full

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>of confidence, you know, talking about how smart he is.

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>I can do anything. Yeah. Yeah. And he's feeling himself

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>and he's got that past, happy offense, which is great

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>for him. I'm sure that's why he likes San Diego.

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 1>He probably has some memories of fouts or somebody Philip

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Rivers out there chunk in that rock in the backfield.

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's kind of a quarterback's dream. And he

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 1>probably knows he's got the same intellect as those two

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:39.479
<v Speaker 1>previous guys. I just will actually on their roster. He

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:44.479
<v Speaker 1>isn't six five, he's six six and from the from

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the Scouting Combine he measured the Scouting Combine official measurement

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>for Justin Herbert's not only six six, he's six six

0:28:53.000 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>and a quarter two thirty six pounds. Wow. Wow, that

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 1>he does not look that big. Do you think he

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>he plays hunched over or something. He didn't stand up taller.

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I would if I saw him if I really thought

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>he was around de Nucci size. I thought he was

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>around Nucci. That's a that's but that's just me. Obviously

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I was. I was very wrong. He's a half foot taller,

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>and he can move. He can move like de Nucci. Um.

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>And you know he ran a four six eight at

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>the combine. That's pretty good when your six sets fashion

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>than me. Ye, No, come on, what do you run?

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>What do you run? At Grambling's protect They had me.

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 1>We'll see. First of all, let's let's clarify some things.

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Grambling has no glass or turf. We had sand, red

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 1>dirt and sand. So they said I ran a four

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>seven four, and I I felt good about that until

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>they told me what the number was. I think probably

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 1>my best forty on the reel was probably a four

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>to six. You know, as far as being timed, now

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>on the field there's a whole different thing, but times

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>is by the four six. You know, that was the

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 1>problem with Jerry Rice when he ran his forty at

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Mississippi Valley State. No grass. Probably we don't have the

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>greatest facility, yes, man, Yeah, they're not running on We

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>got rid all over the place. They're not running on

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>turf inside right in the sterile atmosphere. So they probably

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 1>measured it off wrong. That's ever since he probably you

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>probably ran forty two yards instead of forty probably probably, Yeah,

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>that's the scouts fault. They measure so and I um,

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to remember. It was McCarthy or Quinn.

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I think it was Quinn talking about Herbert and he

0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>said that, you know, he's very mobile, and when he

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>gets outside the pocket, he's not getting outside the pocket

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>to run. He keeps his eyes down the field and

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>he's looking to throw the ball, so he's basically extending plays.

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>And he said, you know there's two parts to this.

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, if he's in the pocket. You know you

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>can count one, two, three, You hope the balls out,

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>but when he starts to move, you may have to

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 1>play that play for seven seconds. You got to stay

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>with your receivers because he doesn't really want to run.

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>If he has to, he will, but he wants to

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>throw the ball down the field, and he did run.

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>The guys go ahead, Everson. When you start, when you start,

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>when you start talking about the quarterbacks that we're going

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>up against this year, Justin Herbert is just as typical

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>as the ones we're gonna see all season. For the

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>most part, everybody's thrown for over three hundred yards. You

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 1>just might as well get ready for that. It's gonna

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>be a past happy year, more so now than ever,

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I believe, especially from what we've seen this past weekend.

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>And the other thing is you've got a secondary that

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you have to depend on to still make plays. You're

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna give them up. But the only thing that's gonna

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>stop these three hundred yard passers is you have to

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>offset those big plays that they're gonna have offensively with

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>turnovers of your own. We showed that in this last game.

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>It kept us in the game, and it's gonna have

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>to keep us in every game this season because the

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>yards are gonna come. That's okay, that's the league. Now,

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about that. Make sure you're not don't get frustrated,

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>and you gotta get yours exactly. And to echo what

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you just said. So I just counted it up. Eleven

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks this first week through for at least three hundred yards,

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>eleven of them. And as we said yesterday, sixteen teams

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>scored twenty seven points or more. So in this league,

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a passing league. I bet all these other teams

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>aren't sitting there asking their head coach about balance. Right

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 1>you think anybody asks John Gruden about balance? Because car

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.520
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0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:16.120
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<v Speaker 1>I did my homework assignment Bill Jones gave me, which

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<v Speaker 1>was how many quarterbacks in the National Football League in

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<v Speaker 1>Week one through forty five or more? Passes? Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you asked for forty Well we can go forward

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<v Speaker 1>to give you forty eight. And of those eight, six

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<v Speaker 1>of them through fifty or more. Okay. My question then

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<v Speaker 1>was how many sco through fifty or more? Yeah? Now

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert through forty seven in a winning propose? And I

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 1>also looked up how many Um like that can't be

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:43.920
<v Speaker 1>right because well, you know what the ones det through

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>forty or more got? It was forty seven or more. Okay.

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:54.839
<v Speaker 1>There was a forty seven forty nine and the other

0:37:54.880 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 1>ones were fifty okay, So yeah, which was my point?

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Five or more? So forty seven or more? There are

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>eight quarterbacks, do you happen? Can you read them off

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 1>for me? I can't you want forty seven or more?

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Forty seven or more? So forty nine? Kirk Cousins. Okay,

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>they lost in overtime, right trying to catch up? Prescott

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>fifty eight lost a close game two point game and

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 1>two Brady fifty they won, So that's one in two

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Goff fifty seven, fifty seven. They came back. They were

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 1>down forty one sixteen, came back, made it, So that's

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>one in three Car fifty six. They won a close

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>game two and three. Herbert forty seven. They won a

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 1>close game three and three Alan Buffalo. They Buffalo got

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>beat by Pittsburgh three and four. And then well where's

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Brady Brady was fifty you said I did, and then

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence Jacksonville, so they were three and five. Yeah, the quarterbacks,

0:38:55.600 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 1>you threw that many. My point on that was, I

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:03.800
<v Speaker 1>think you're what we're finding here. And Everson talked about

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 1>it earlier in the show, and you've talked about it too,

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 1>and some of us is fairly obvious just the way

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the game has evolved, but it even seems like it's

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>evolving even more towards throwing the football. It's in the

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>dna of so many offensive coordinators in this lead to

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:22.239
<v Speaker 1>throw the ball, and with the talent on hand and

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the abilities that I mean, you just look at the

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>draft every year and how many receivers there are in

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:32.479
<v Speaker 1>the draft that the college game is producing. It's it's

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>just more and more. It's a past happy league. And

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>we only have five players who rushed for at least

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 1>one hundred yards, just five. So Harris New England Damien

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Harris did. Is that Damien Harris Okay also fumbled or

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>costly fumbled. Gordon for Denver. Melvin Gordon had a seventy

0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>yard run. They got him one oh one. So yeah,

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 1>so he has ten eleven carries for one oh one

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 1>and went for seven at seventy so he had ten

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>carries for thirty one and then a seventy yard Yeah. Uh.

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell San Francisco, Elijah Mitchell him. He's a rookie. He

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of tech I think, and or one

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>of the Louisiana schools. I really liked him coming out

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 1>in the draft. One hundred and four yards Montgomery, Chicago.

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 1>One of the reasons that he rushed for so much

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell did is they lost mostart in that game, right

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:33.720
<v Speaker 1>they did? And then they got off to a pretty

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.720
<v Speaker 1>big lead, didn't they if I remember correctly, So they're

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>probably grinding at the end. Montgomery sixteen carries one oh

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>eight for the Bears and mixing in overtime Cincinnati and

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 1>that went all the way ten minutes of overtime. If

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:51.240
<v Speaker 1>I remember, twenty nine carries for one hundred and twenty

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 1>seven yards. So the guy that had the best, you know,

0:40:55.520 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 1>perk carry average ended up being Gordon An for nine

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>point two. But it was one run. So yeah, So

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like people were just grinding away running the football.

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:11.360
<v Speaker 1>But I do think and Parcels talked about this a

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 1>lot to wait until you get into November and December

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and you get bad weather and so forth, and teams

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 1>will run it more. I think every year in September,

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>you're gonnas. There's gonna be more throwing that's going on,

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and the game dictates it a lot. But I thought

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>what was remarkable about the Cowboys Tampa Bay game and

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 1>what the Cowboys did. It wasn't like they came to

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage and said we're going to throw

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 1>it fifty eight times. It is they saw what the

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>defense was giving them, basically, and Dak took what the

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 1>defense was giving them. You know. The other thing, I'm

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to see the number Mic threw it out today.

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>He was saying, and some of the runs that we

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 1>could have had and this wasn't in reference to what

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore said yesterday, but he said there there was

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 1>a few RPOs where they could have ran it, but

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Dak chose to pull it back and throw the ball.

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's like they had those there, and that kind

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>of went up to how many times they ended up

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>running the football. But all told, it's you need receiving

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 1>cores like these teams have, and you need quarterbacks like

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:23.840
<v Speaker 1>these teams have. And that's what I love about this

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 1>matchup the Cowboys and the Chargers this week because even

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 1>though the Cowboys are down, Michael Gallup, with Amari Cooper

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 1>and with Ceedee Lamb, and with what the tight ends

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 1>can do catching the ball, what the running backs can

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>do catching the ball out of the backfield, there's still

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 1>plenty of weapons for Dak to do what he wants

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to do in this game. I think what McCarthy's quote was,

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 1>if you throw the ball fifty times, but fifteen of

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:50.239
<v Speaker 1>them are RPOs, so it kind of distorts how many

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:53.160
<v Speaker 1>times you actually were calling run plays. They want to

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:55.280
<v Speaker 1>run the ball, they want to give Zeke the ball.

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:57.399
<v Speaker 1>And I thought it, I don't remember if I said

0:42:57.400 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>it yesterday. I thought it was remarkable that even though

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Zeke wasn't they weren't feeding him. He was doing his

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>job picking up the blitzes and blocking in the pass game. Well,

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>here's the deal I think on running the ball where

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it factored into that game the other day, is when you,

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>especially in that circumstance when Tom Brady is the quarterback

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>on the other side, you have the football in the

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>final two minutes. You want to be able to move

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:29.879
<v Speaker 1>the chains to be able to have the football at

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>the end kicking your field goal to win the game

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and not allow Tom Brady back on the field. And

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.720
<v Speaker 1>in order to do that, you have to be able

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>to run the football because because the way the defense

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:44.399
<v Speaker 1>is going to play you, they're doing everything they can

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:46.360
<v Speaker 1>to keep you from getting that first down in the

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 1>passing game, and if you have, if you haven't established

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you can run it, then your chances

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 1>of converting are not great and you can just like

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:00.040
<v Speaker 1>in the Cowboys case, they had a holding penalty that

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 1>set them behind the chains. You typically if you're able

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 1>to run the ball three four yards five yards at

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>a clip, you're not going to have penalties and you're

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 1>going to be in third and two rather than third

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:15.839
<v Speaker 1>and ten. So and remember when they got the ball

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>back at four fifty two in the fourth quarter against

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 1>New England degree against Tampa Bay. They're behind, right, so

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 1>in your mind you're thinking, okay, we got to go

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and probably got to score a touchdown. We're not trying

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>to just drain the clock. But once, but once, CD

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>made the play the thirty one yard that got him

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.959
<v Speaker 1>into the field into field goal range with two minute.

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 1>It was the first play of the final two minutes,

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>so it was a minute fifty five to play at

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 1>that point. Now you can manage things. Now you need

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:49.959
<v Speaker 1>to get that first down. You need to for them

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>to use their timeouts Tampa Bay and then get the

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 1>ear first down where you can now bleed the clock

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 1>all the way down. And the Cowboys weren't able to

0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:01.320
<v Speaker 1>do that right, And here what happened. So the first

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:05.400
<v Speaker 1>play they ran Zeke right, he got one yard and

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:07.239
<v Speaker 1>they're at the ten. So now you got to go

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:10.360
<v Speaker 1>ninety yards try to score a touchdown on that drive. Okay,

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 1>they got to second and ten at their own thirty

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 1>eight and he hits a twenty three yard pass, the

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 1>CD lamb and the Cowboys get called for holding, which

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 1>was that was the one on Tyrn Smith that I

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 1>think they said Collins were said on TV goes Boa

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:30.360
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of picky. So now you're second and

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty at the twenty six, well, okay, you pass, you pass.

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>They got the second and ten after they got the

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 1>first down the play you were talking about to Cede

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Lamb and they ran Zeke for four yards. Okay, they

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 1>had an incomplete pass first right right, and then they

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 1>ran Zeke for four yards and then they short passed

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:56.279
<v Speaker 1>to Zeke again no gain, but that's almost like a run.

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 1>And now on that play they got called for holding

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 1>right Williams. So now you're third and sixteen, Well you're

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:06.399
<v Speaker 1>passing right right, And unfortunately they only ended up with

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:08.360
<v Speaker 1>ten yards and then they had to kick the fields.

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 1>What what I would have liked once they got to

0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the thirty four. I would have liked to have run

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:15.399
<v Speaker 1>it on first down and it was an incomplete pass,

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:18.359
<v Speaker 1>So run both both times. Yeah, where if you can

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, even if you just get two yards on

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>first down and you're second and eight, and then if

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 1>you can get forward and make it third and four,

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:28.919
<v Speaker 1>and now the defense doesn't know whether you can run

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.440
<v Speaker 1>it or passing it, because then then you're in a

0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 1>position if you even get it down to fourth and one,

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:36.759
<v Speaker 1>now you could make the decision whether you want to

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 1>go for it because they've used their timeouts, whether you

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:43.320
<v Speaker 1>want to go for it. And you know people have

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 1>talked about fourth and sixth at the thirty, Well I

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>would have just gone for it anyway, you know, because

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>that's twenty four left. Yeah, met fourth and one. You

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:53.880
<v Speaker 1>can make that decision whether you whether you're going to

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 1>go forth. So kind of where where it's sort of

0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:00.840
<v Speaker 1>messed up? Uh, you know, had they not gotten that

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 1>holding penalty right right? And even though it was no gain,

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you're at the thirty now again, think about this, Your

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>kicker is already missed from thirty one and thirty three.

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:16.880
<v Speaker 1>How much faith did you have when him when he

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 1>signed he lined up for a forty eight yard field goal.

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 1>If you're at the thirty, right, you're thinking, oh, I

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>better get this closer. And so there was there was

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 1>more to think about than just draining the clock. It

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:31.479
<v Speaker 1>was like, can I get my kicker if I don't

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 1>get the first down comfortable? At that point when you're

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 1>third and sixteen at the forty, you got to get

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 1>it to the third eighty Triapri eight yard field and

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 1>that's where they were it did, which they were there

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 1>until they got the holding penalty, right, So yeah, you

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 1>know when you look back at it, yeah, you shore

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:50.839
<v Speaker 1>ran the ball more and you would have drained more

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 1>time off the clock, but you needed to kick a

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.960
<v Speaker 1>field goal, and you needed your field goal kicker to

0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 1>be comfortable, and I don't know that he was comfortable.

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:00.799
<v Speaker 1>And that's why a lot of people are sitting there

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 1>going fourth and six, Oh, you gotta go for And

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:06.400
<v Speaker 1>for that matter, at this point in the season, you

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>don't have confidence that you can run the ball down there, Okay,

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 1>especially against that defense, which was the number one right

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.840
<v Speaker 1>run defense in the league last year. So it matters

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 1>who you're playing against also, And I also think you

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 1>see this even with really good offensive lines, sometimes it

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:28.800
<v Speaker 1>takes a month into the season before the run blocking

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 1>is really clicking for these teams. And they didn't have

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 1>these guys all together through all of training camp, right,

0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 1>It was kind of patchwork, right, you know. So yeah,

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and so that was really the first game those five

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 1>played together. And now those five on all they didn't

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:48.879
<v Speaker 1>even work together, right, because Zach Martin was missing, that's right,

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:53.719
<v Speaker 1>and now they'll have Lele Collins missing, Zack's back, Dat's back.

0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 1>So you'd have to go back sometime in the two

0:48:56.239 --> 0:49:00.799
<v Speaker 1>thousand nineteen season too, and you had Travis Frederick then,

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and so they this offensive line has never played together, right,

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 1>this is this is this is not your ten year

0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:11.719
<v Speaker 1>olds offensive line. Okay, all right, that does it for

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:16.040
<v Speaker 1>mixed shots for this Wednesday, and Everson hopefully we'll be

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:19.719
<v Speaker 1>joining us from a remote location again tomorrow. And for

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Mickey Spagnola, I'm Bill Jones. We'll chat at you again

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:27.759
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow at one thirty. This has been a production of

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