WEBVTT - Nut Country Revisited feat. Steven Monacelli & Dr. Michael Phillips

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<v Speaker 1>Col Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Michael Phillips, an historian, the author of a book

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<v Speaker 2>about racism in Dallas called White Metropolis, and the co

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<v Speaker 2>author of an upcoming book about the eugenics movement in

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<v Speaker 2>Texas called The Purifying Knife.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm Stephen Monchelli, an investigative reporter and columnist in

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<v Speaker 3>Texas who covers political extremism and beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>Since the late nineteen nineties, Alex Jones built an extensive

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<v Speaker 2>media empire, spreading out landish conspiracy theories from his home

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<v Speaker 2>base in Austin, Texas. A native of the Dallas suburb

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<v Speaker 2>of Rockwall, over the years, Jones has claimed that the

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<v Speaker 2>Apollo eleven moon landing was fake, so too, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>was the Sandy Hook Elementary School mass shooting. He claimed

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<v Speaker 2>with stage to justify new gun control laws. According to Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>the US government can control the weather has intentionally caused

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<v Speaker 2>floods and other weather disasters to punish Texas and other

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<v Speaker 2>concerns of the States. He has insisted that chemicals intentionally

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<v Speaker 2>placed in American drinking water are turning frogs gay, part

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<v Speaker 2>of an experiment by the American government seeking a way

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<v Speaker 2>to undermine the nuclear family. While peddling dubious supplements with

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<v Speaker 2>unproven health benefits. Jones began his broadcasting career with a

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<v Speaker 2>call in public access cable TV show, before moving on

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<v Speaker 2>to radio and then online. In spite of his outlandish claims,

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty fifteen, Jones was able to set off a

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<v Speaker 2>panic in Texas that inspired action from Governor Greg Abbott.

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<v Speaker 4>Now to a Texas sized conspiracy theory, sparking headlines across

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<v Speaker 4>the country, including this week in The New York Times,

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<v Speaker 4>the theory that an upcoming Pentagon training exercise is actually

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<v Speaker 4>part of a plan to impose martial law. To many,

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<v Speaker 4>it's far fetched, but not to some of the top

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<v Speaker 4>politicians in the lone star state.

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<v Speaker 3>The conspiracy theory Jones described on his Info War show

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<v Speaker 3>spun in even wilder directions. The Army troops participating in

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<v Speaker 3>the Jade Helm military exercise, panicked, right wingers said, would

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<v Speaker 3>turn on the local population. Guns would be seized from

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<v Speaker 3>private citizens, and local walmarts would be converted into vast

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<v Speaker 3>holding cells where those opposing Obama's plan to seize dictatorial

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<v Speaker 3>power would be imprisoned. According to these sorts of theories,

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<v Speaker 3>these accusations went viral and a military spokesman got waylaid

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<v Speaker 3>by angry questions at a Bastrup County Commissioner's Court meeting

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<v Speaker 3>held near the Central Texas staging area for jade Helm.

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<v Speaker 5>Armed men in.

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<v Speaker 3>Trucks patrolled in Bastrup County and surrounding communities, and a

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<v Speaker 3>private group called Counter jade Helm spied on the movement

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<v Speaker 3>of troops and military vehicles while they quizzed residents for

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<v Speaker 3>any intelligence they may have gathered on the impending alleged

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<v Speaker 3>coup d'eta.

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<v Speaker 2>The crazier the conspiracy theory got, the more Texas's far

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<v Speaker 2>right political leaders were willing to pander toge Jones and Elk.

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<v Speaker 2>Texas Governor Greg Abbott ordered the Texas National Guard to

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<v Speaker 2>monitor US Army troops near Austin.

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<v Speaker 6>We're playing a pivotal role of government, and that is

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<v Speaker 6>to provide information until people have questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Texas Senator Ted Cruz pledged that he would demand answers

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<v Speaker 2>from the Pentagon about the military's intentions and said he

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<v Speaker 2>completely understood the widespread paranoia.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I understand the concern that's been raised by

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of citizens about jade Hell.

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<v Speaker 5>We have seen for six years.

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<v Speaker 7>A federal government of disrespecting the liberty of the citizens

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<v Speaker 7>and that produces fear.

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<v Speaker 2>Suffice it to say, the Obama administration did not overthrow

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<v Speaker 2>the state government. The intense outrage and fear generated over

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<v Speaker 2>army combat preparations might have seen perplexing to those outside

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<v Speaker 2>of Texas, a state that prides itself on being patriotic

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<v Speaker 2>and pro military. However, seething distrust of liberal elites is

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<v Speaker 2>a lucrative business in alex Jones built a fortune of

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and seventy million with his internet show and

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<v Speaker 2>sales of dubious health and survivalist products advertised on those broadcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>This is nothing new south of the Red River. From

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of its history, the state has been an

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<v Speaker 2>incubator for outlandish and occasionally not completely unreasonable conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 3>After Texas violently separated from Mexico in eighteen thirty six,

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<v Speaker 3>white Texans spent the next decade fearing their southern neighbor,

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<v Speaker 3>a nation that saw the Texas Revolution as illegitimate and

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to regain control of the breakaway province. Meanwhile, those

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<v Speaker 3>same white Texans viewed the African Americans they enslaved with

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<v Speaker 3>suspicion bordering on dread, knowing that their black captives desperately

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<v Speaker 3>wanted freedom and might use violence to liberate themselves. This

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<v Speaker 3>created an atmosphere of uncertainty and distrust that fed conspiracy

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<v Speaker 3>theories of all sorts. After their rebellion against Mexico, Texans

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to become part of the United States, but they

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<v Speaker 3>were forced to spend almost a full decade as an

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<v Speaker 3>independent republic because of well founded suspicions held by American

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<v Speaker 3>abolitionists that the Texas Revolution was a part of a

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<v Speaker 3>plot to add a slave state to the Union.

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<v Speaker 2>A decade later, the tide shifted and Texas was hurriedly

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<v Speaker 2>annexed in eighteen forty five after widespread rumors gripped Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>d C Of a British plot to a next Texas

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<v Speaker 2>and converted to a haven for African Americans escaping slavery.

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<v Speaker 2>In the eighteen fifties, even prominent Texans like Sam Houston

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<v Speaker 2>flocked to the American Party, also known as the know Nothings,

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<v Speaker 2>that claimed the Pope had ordered Catholics from Ireland Germany

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<v Speaker 2>to immigrate to the United States in order to take

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<v Speaker 2>the country over and hand power over to the Vatican

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<v Speaker 2>Panics O were suspected rebellions by the enslaved, gripped Anglo

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<v Speaker 2>Texans in eighteen thirty five, eighteen thirty eight, eighteen forty one,

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<v Speaker 2>and in eighteen fifty six went perhaps as many as

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred African Americans held in bondage in Colorado County

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<v Speaker 2>in south central Texas apparently plotted to rise up against

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<v Speaker 2>their white oppressors and battle their way to freedom in Mexico,

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<v Speaker 2>where slavery had been abolished.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighteen sixty, construction workers carelessly tossed matches into a pile

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<v Speaker 3>of wood in Dallas during a hot, drought ridden summer.

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<v Speaker 3>The blaze that resulted destroyed much of what was then

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<v Speaker 3>only a village. Immediately, suspecting that enslaved arsonists had set

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<v Speaker 3>the fire as part of a planned revolution, whites and

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<v Speaker 3>Dallas tortured and whipped almost every enslaved person in the

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<v Speaker 3>county in search of scapegoats. Eventually, they hanged three African

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<v Speaker 3>Americans and set off what would become known as the

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<v Speaker 3>Texas Troubles. Fires broke out across the state, and each

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<v Speaker 3>got blamed on black suspects and their supposed white abolitionist instigators,

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<v Speaker 3>often men from northern States. As one historian put it,

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<v Speaker 3>white Texan enslavers decided it was better to quote hanging

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<v Speaker 3>ninety nine innocent men than to let one guilty pass.

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<v Speaker 3>Acting on little evidence, mobs lynched as many as eighty

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<v Speaker 3>enslaved African American men and thirty seven accused white abolitionists.

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<v Speaker 3>By the time the panic burned out in September.

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<v Speaker 2>A wave of labor unrest, including the Great Southwest Railroad

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<v Speaker 2>Strike of eighteen eighty six and the rise of the

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<v Speaker 2>Populace movement, which called for the government seizure railroads and

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<v Speaker 2>telegraph lines, in addition to a global panic amongst the

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<v Speaker 2>well to do about anarchism after a series of bombings

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<v Speaker 2>in Europe and even the United States from the eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighties to just after World War One convinced economic elites

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<v Speaker 2>in Texas that revolution was in the air. The ku

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<v Speaker 2>Klux Klan, which in its original incarnation during reconstruction served

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<v Speaker 2>as a goon squad to keep newly freed African American

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<v Speaker 2>labor under tight control, came to dominate cities like Dallas

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen twenties, where one and every three eligible

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<v Speaker 2>men were members of the KKK at its peak, the

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<v Speaker 2>KKK charged that both Jews and Catholics were conspiring to

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<v Speaker 2>control the world. Texas politicians like Representative John Box of Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>in a column in Henry Ford's anti Semitic newspaper The

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<v Speaker 2>Dearborn Independent, charged that Jews had manipulated the Congress to

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<v Speaker 2>add loopholes to American immigration laws passed in nineteen twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one nineteen twenty four in order to let Jewish people

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<v Speaker 2>escaping the Russian Empire into the United States as part

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<v Speaker 2>of a scheme to undermine American society.

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<v Speaker 3>As oil millionaires and billionaires built their wealth over the

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<v Speaker 3>twentieth century, they became a force in conspiratorial faw right

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<v Speaker 3>politics in Texas. Starting in the nineteen thirties, they mobilized

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<v Speaker 3>against Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal, which they insisted was a

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<v Speaker 3>part of an international communist plan to overthrow capitalism around

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<v Speaker 3>the planet. Anti communism, anti Semitism, and hostility. The post

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<v Speaker 3>World War II African American civil rights movement blended seamlessly

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<v Speaker 3>in the conspiratorial imaginations of the faw right in the

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<v Speaker 3>lone Star state ideas that reached a national audience in

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<v Speaker 3>large part because of oil money.

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<v Speaker 2>Owen Beatty, the longtime chairman of the English Department's Southern

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<v Speaker 2>Methodist University in Dallas, in nineteen fifty one, authored one

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<v Speaker 2>of the first and perhaps the best selling of all time,

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<v Speaker 2>book promoting Holocaust denial, Iron Curtain over America. Beatty claimed

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<v Speaker 2>that the Jews of today were not the Hebrew heroes

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<v Speaker 2>of what Christians called the Old Testament. Instead, they were

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<v Speaker 2>descended from a sinister Asian trot called the Kazars. They

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<v Speaker 2>converted to Judaism around the year eight hundred. Too arrogant

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<v Speaker 2>to assimilate with Christian Europe, Baty wrote, Kazar's undermined society

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<v Speaker 2>under their stolen identities and caused the Communist Revolution in

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<v Speaker 2>Russian nineteen eighteen. After immigrating to the United States in

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<v Speaker 2>large numbers, they took over the Democratic Party, Batty said,

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<v Speaker 2>and moved it to the radical left. Beatty also claimed

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<v Speaker 2>that Jews controlled Franklin Roosevelt's administration and pushed it into

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<v Speaker 2>war against Hitler's Germany, which Beatty described in his book

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<v Speaker 2>as quote the historic bulwark of Christian Europe. A mere

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<v Speaker 2>six years after Soviet and American troops that liberated Nazi

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<v Speaker 2>concentration camps. Betty claimed that most of the victims there

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<v Speaker 2>died from disease and the Holocaust was a fraud used

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<v Speaker 2>after nineteen forty eight to blackmail the West into political

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<v Speaker 2>and financial support of Israel. The SMU professor urged the

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<v Speaker 2>United States to expel Jews from the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>Rather than earning him scorn, Bad's virulently hateful anti Jewish

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<v Speaker 3>rants won him a large following. His book, Iron Curtain

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<v Speaker 3>Over America, went through nine printings. By nineteen fifty three,

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<v Speaker 3>The Public Affairs Luncheon Club, a women's organization, adopted a

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<v Speaker 3>unanimous resolution backing Bad and requesting that SMU investigate alleged

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<v Speaker 3>Communist influence on the university's faculty politics and values. Beady

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<v Speaker 3>taught at SMU until his retirement in nineteen fifty seven,

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<v Speaker 3>two years after a panic over allegedly read art during

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<v Speaker 3>which the conservative Dallas Patriotic Council accused the Dallas Musi

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<v Speaker 3>of Art of intentionally promoting quote subversive artists who were

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<v Speaker 3>ostensibly part of communist front groups connected to the Soviet

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<v Speaker 3>Union after.

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<v Speaker 2>World War Two in the establishment of communist regimes in

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern Europe and in China. The uber wealthy giants of

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<v Speaker 2>the Texas oil industry, to a large degree, funded what

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<v Speaker 2>came to be known as McCarthyism. Clinton Murchison, whose son

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty became owner of the Dallas Cowboys National

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<v Speaker 2>Football League team, became one of the largest financial contributors

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<v Speaker 2>the red baiting Senator Joe McCarthy of Wisconsin. In Houston,

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<v Speaker 2>hard right organizations like the Minute Women Fought against school

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<v Speaker 2>integration took over the school board, firing the assistant superintendent,

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<v Speaker 2>George eBay because he previously lived in California and Oregon,

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<v Speaker 2>where he had nice things to say about Roosevelt's new

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<v Speaker 2>deal in the African American freedom struggle. A math instructor

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<v Speaker 2>got fired after he carelessly common in a teacher's lounge.

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<v Speaker 2>They supported Adelie Stevenson, the Liberal Democratic part Party nominee

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<v Speaker 2>for president. In nineteen fifty two and nineteen fifty six,

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<v Speaker 2>the Easton School Board yanked books from campus libraries that

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<v Speaker 2>said positive things about the United Nations, while right wingers

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<v Speaker 2>in Dallas force the City Library and the Museum of

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<v Speaker 2>Fine Arts. The demand artists like Diego Rivera and Pablo

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<v Speaker 2>Picasso because of their supposed communist sympathies.

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<v Speaker 5>But before we get into that, a quick ad break

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<v Speaker 5>one Dallas oil.

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<v Speaker 3>Magnate who built a mansion intentionally designed to be a

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<v Speaker 3>bigger duplicate of George Washington's Mount Vernon estate. He used

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<v Speaker 3>his wealth to broadcast extremist fever dreams in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>fifties and nineteen sixties. His name was hl Hunt, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was profiled by the BBC in the nineteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 8>But as well as being perhaps the most apprugal, the

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<v Speaker 8>most stingy plutocrat of Texas, hl Hunt is probably the

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<v Speaker 8>most controversial. He is a fervent advocate of right wing,

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<v Speaker 8>some would say reactionary causes. He is against the UN,

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<v Speaker 8>against the War On Party, against Medicare, against central government

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<v Speaker 8>aid of any sort. He would rather Washington didn't rule

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<v Speaker 8>the United States at all, and in his ideal LAMB

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<v Speaker 8>votes would be distributed according to the amount of taxes

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<v Speaker 8>who paid more than most Texans. Even he is inclined

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<v Speaker 8>to see communists under every couch and behind every curtain.

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<v Speaker 8>To Hunt, mankind is divided into communists and constructives. His

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<v Speaker 8>private word for anti communists, you are either for him

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<v Speaker 8>or aganim. He brooks no halfway position.

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<v Speaker 3>A health faddist who avoided whitebread and sugar, Hunt believed

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<v Speaker 3>his diet of largely raw vegetables might actually allow him

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<v Speaker 3>to achieve immortality. He also thought he had psychic abilities,

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<v Speaker 3>lived as a secret bigamist, and published pamphlets such as

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<v Speaker 3>Hitler was a Liberal, an early prototype of Rupert Murdoch

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<v Speaker 3>and Elon Musk. Hunt tried to create an alternative right

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<v Speaker 3>wing media infrastructure, ding a nationwide radio program and pamphlet

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<v Speaker 3>subscription called Lifeline that promoted conspiracy theories from coast to coast.

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<v Speaker 9>Didn't time for a lifetime.

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<v Speaker 5>Is around the world.

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<v Speaker 10>Every leftist phrase and cliche of the past half century

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<v Speaker 10>now has the hollow.

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<v Speaker 6>Ring of mythology.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lifeline show was hosted by a former FBI agent

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<v Speaker 2>named Dan Smoot and broadcasts on more than eighty television

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty radio stations. Hunt believed that democracy

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<v Speaker 2>was the instrument through which wealth would be seized from

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<v Speaker 2>billionaires such himself and redistributed to the lazy and the worthless.

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<v Speaker 2>Hunt once rage at Smoot when the Lifeline hosts claimed

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<v Speaker 2>on air that democracy was a political outgrowth of the

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<v Speaker 2>teachings of Jesus Christ. Hunt corrected smooth, condemning democracy is

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<v Speaker 2>the handwork of the devil. In a phony liberal form

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<v Speaker 2>of watered down communism. Hunt innovated in number of ways

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<v Speaker 2>to alarm audiences about far left plots.

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<v Speaker 8>During the last two years, hl Hunt has added another

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<v Speaker 8>emotive missile to his armory, his league of so called

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<v Speaker 8>youth freedom speakers, engaging young teenagers drilled to deliver three

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<v Speaker 8>minute burst of his propaganda to rotary clubs and Bible classes.

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<v Speaker 11>Many people in the United States really don't believe that

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<v Speaker 11>communism is a serious threat. Well, these people are in

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<v Speaker 11>for a big shock, because the communists have every intention

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<v Speaker 11>of doing exactly what they've said they'll do, and they

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<v Speaker 11>do not hesitate to use force and violence anytime they

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<v Speaker 11>think that it will further their cause. Now, I don't

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<v Speaker 11>pretend to know all the answers, but I do know

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<v Speaker 11>that it is our duty to get out and warn

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<v Speaker 11>others of the serious threat that we are facing. We

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<v Speaker 11>have got to get out and tell others of the

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<v Speaker 11>subversive movements that are going on right here under our

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<v Speaker 11>very own noses. It's time to do away with this attitude. Oh,

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<v Speaker 11>it can't happen here. Will communists bury us? Will we

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<v Speaker 11>face fine squads as in Cuba? And will our little

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<v Speaker 11>bitty children become slaves? Ladies and gentlemen. The answer rests

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<v Speaker 11>in the hands of you and others like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>For much of the twentieth century, Dallas had built up

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<v Speaker 3>a reputation as a clean, dull, modern, and efficiently run city.

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<v Speaker 3>By the nineteen fifties, however, it had also acquired a

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<v Speaker 3>reputation as the capital of crackpots and conspiracy theorists, a

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<v Speaker 3>development that historian Edward H. Miller would describe in his

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<v Speaker 3>book Not the Country. In nineteen fifty four, Dallas elected

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<v Speaker 3>a far right House representative, Republican Bruce Alger. Less than

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<v Speaker 3>a week prior to the nineteen sixty presidential election between

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<v Speaker 3>John Kennedy and Richard Nixon, a pro Alger mob assaulted

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<v Speaker 3>in spat on the Democratic vice presidential nominee and then

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<v Speaker 3>Texas Senator Lyndon Johnson and his wife Ladybird as they

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<v Speaker 3>left the Adolphus Hotel in downtown Dallas, alger joined the

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<v Speaker 3>protesters who held signs with slogans that said LBJ sold

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<v Speaker 3>out to Yankee Socialists. Soon thereafter, Major General Edwin Walker,

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<v Speaker 3>who inspired the deranged fictional character General Jack d Ripper,

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<v Speaker 3>the person responsible for global nuclear holocaust, in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>sixty four film at Doctor Strangelove called Dallas Home.

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<v Speaker 12>I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration,

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<v Speaker 12>communist in doctrination, communists subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy

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<v Speaker 12>to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

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<v Speaker 3>Before filmmaker Stanley Kubrick turned Walker into an unforgettable caricature.

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<v Speaker 3>The real life Walker achieved infamy commanding an infantry division

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<v Speaker 3>in what was then Western Germany. President Kennedy pressured Walker

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<v Speaker 3>to resign because he repeatedly lectured soldiers under his command

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<v Speaker 3>to vote for far right wing political candidates. He also

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<v Speaker 3>distributed among the troops literature from the conspiracy theory promoting

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<v Speaker 3>far right John Birch Society, and he encouraged them to

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<v Speaker 3>join the John Birch Society, formed in nineteen fifty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>opposed American membership in the United Nations, which it claimed

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<v Speaker 3>was part of a global communist conspiracy to enslave free

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<v Speaker 3>peoples around the world. The fringe organization, established by former

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<v Speaker 3>candy manufacturer Robert Welsh, accused all American presidents from Franklin

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<v Speaker 3>Roosevelt to Kennedy of being secret communists under the command

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<v Speaker 3>of the Soviet government.

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<v Speaker 2>The John Birch Society also saw the African American civil

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<v Speaker 2>rights movement as part of a Bolshevik conspiracy to divide

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<v Speaker 2>the country, and argued that efforts of towns and cities

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<v Speaker 2>after World War II to add fluoride to public water

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<v Speaker 2>supplies was part of a sinister scheme to weaken men

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<v Speaker 2>physically and make them less able to resist the radical

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<v Speaker 2>takeover the United States. That particular Bircher conspiracy theory made

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<v Speaker 2>a long lasting impact on the American psyche. Cities across

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<v Speaker 2>the United States banned fluoridated water today. That John Birch

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<v Speaker 2>Society is still active in North Texas, where recent gubernatorial

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<v Speaker 2>candidate and car dealer Don Huffines has published anti fluoridation

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<v Speaker 2>essays on the Dallas Express, a right wing website that

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<v Speaker 2>repurposed the name of the historic black newspaper that went

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<v Speaker 2>defunct in the nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 3>Edwin Walker's devotion to the John Birch movement cost him

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<v Speaker 3>his military career. Under pressure from Defense Secretary Robert mcmara,

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<v Speaker 3>Walker retired and moved to Dallas, where he found a

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<v Speaker 3>friendly political environment. The national far right saw him as

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<v Speaker 3>a martyr to Kennedy's supposedly out of control leftism, and

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<v Speaker 3>he received financial support from fellow devotee of the John

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<v Speaker 3>Birch Society hl Hunt. In nineteen sixty one, Walker made

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<v Speaker 3>the cover of Newsweek as a leader of the New Right,

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<v Speaker 3>and in nineteen sixty two he entered the race for

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<v Speaker 3>Texas Governor.

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<v Speaker 6>To all victims of communist tyranny throughout the world, I

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<v Speaker 6>send this word the hour of your deliverance is approaching.

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<v Speaker 6>To patriots in every land Korea, China, the Ukraine, the

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<v Speaker 6>Baltic Nations, Poland, Hungary, East Germany, the Congo, Cuba, and

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<v Speaker 6>every other land strickened by the monster of communism. I say,

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<v Speaker 6>for the time lie low, preparing your hearts for liberation.

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<v Speaker 6>Do not expose yourselves to the brutal requital of a

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<v Speaker 6>monster temporarily in power.

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<v Speaker 2>Walker was a painfully dull public speaker. In the end,

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't bring his version of deliverance to his own state,

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<v Speaker 2>finishing a distant sixth in the nineteen sixty two gubinatorial race.

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<v Speaker 2>That would not prevent him and his allies from creating

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<v Speaker 2>Mayhem over the following months, he got arrested and was

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<v Speaker 2>ordered to be psychiatrically evaluated by Attorney General Robert Kennedy

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<v Speaker 2>after he incited racial violence during the integration of the

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<v Speaker 2>University of Mississippi in September nineteen sixty two. Adelaide Stevenson,

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<v Speaker 2>John Kennedy's ambassador of the United Nations, would confront Walker

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<v Speaker 2>and a model of his followers when the diplomat visited

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<v Speaker 2>Big d on October twenty sixth, nineteen sixty three. Stevenson

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<v Speaker 2>was shouted down as he attempted to deliver a un

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<v Speaker 2>day's speech to Dallas Council on World Affairs.

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<v Speaker 6>Shall we get on with the business.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the meeting? Surely, surely, my dear friend, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to come here from Illinois to teach Texas.

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<v Speaker 8>Manors, do I?

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<v Speaker 3>Outside Memorial Auditorium Theater, where Stevenson delivered his speech, Walker

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<v Speaker 3>had gathered a furious gang of middle and upper classmen

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<v Speaker 3>and women who rocked his limousine back and forth while

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<v Speaker 3>it waited to whisk him away to safety, and surrounded

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<v Speaker 3>the ambassador when he stepped outside. When he finally returned

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<v Speaker 3>to Washington, D C. Stevenson warned the administration about the

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<v Speaker 3>intense and extremist atmosphere in Dallas, where President Kennedy was

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<v Speaker 3>planning a visit meant to heal a rift between the

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<v Speaker 3>conservative and liberal wings of the Democratic Party in Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>On the morning in November twenty second, nineteen sixty three,

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy and his entourage felt for voting as they prepared

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<v Speaker 2>for a short airplane draft from Fort Worth to Dallas.

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<v Speaker 2>The president just examined a full page ad in the

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<v Speaker 2>far right Dallas Morning News that featured a bold face

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<v Speaker 2>headline welcome mister Kennedy to Dallas. The advertisement, paid for

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<v Speaker 2>in part by H. L. Hunt's son, Nelson bunker Hunt

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<v Speaker 2>and the future owner of the Dallas Cowboys, HR bum Bright,

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<v Speaker 2>featured accusations that Kennedy was soft on communism around the

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<v Speaker 2>world and radicals at home, while persecuting conservatives who criticized them.

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<v Speaker 2>The same morning, a group distributed leaflets designed like a

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<v Speaker 2>wanted poster with front and side photos of the President

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<v Speaker 2>with the caption wanted for treason. How can people say

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<v Speaker 2>such things? The President said to First Lady Jackie Kennedy,

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<v Speaker 2>We're heading into nut Country. Soon. The Kennedys would make

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<v Speaker 2>their faithful flight to Dallas, and the President would die

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<v Speaker 2>from an assassin's bullet shortly after noon.

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<v Speaker 3>The President's murder spawned a cottage industry of conspiracy theorists.

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<v Speaker 3>Some said the President had been murdered by the mafia,

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<v Speaker 3>angered because they had been investigated by the President's brother,

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<v Speaker 3>Attorney General Robert Kennedy. Others blamed Teamster's president Jimmy Hoffa,

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<v Speaker 3>who also had been the subject of criminal probes by

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<v Speaker 3>the Justice Department. Others suspected assassination plotters included Cuban leader

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<v Speaker 3>Fidel Castro, who had himself been targeted for assassination attempts

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<v Speaker 3>by the Kennedy administration, exiled Cubans in Florida, angered because

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<v Speaker 3>the President had not fully supported the attempted overthrow of

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<v Speaker 3>Castro during the nineteen sixty one Bay of Pigs invasion,

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<v Speaker 3>and even the Soviets. One of the more elaborate theories

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<v Speaker 3>involved an alleged plot hatched by American military leaders and

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<v Speaker 3>CIA agents, angered that Kennedy supposedly wanted to end American

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<v Speaker 3>involvement in Vietnam. Finally, others, said Lyndon Johnson, order to

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<v Speaker 3>hit on the chief executive because he wanted to grab power.

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<v Speaker 3>Or maybe others said, Kennedy die because of combination of

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<v Speaker 3>some or all of the above, having made enemies with

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<v Speaker 3>the intelligence agencies under his command, who he had said

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<v Speaker 3>he would dash to the wins if they continued to

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<v Speaker 3>do things that were against what he saws in the

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<v Speaker 3>best interests of the United States. Quote President shot one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred twenty nine times from forty three different angles. A

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<v Speaker 3>satirical headline from The Onion later.

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<v Speaker 2>Asserted sometimes conspiracy theories have deadly consequences. William L. Pierre

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<v Speaker 2>spent his teen years attending a military academy in Dallas

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<v Speaker 2>as a city student, anti communist dread and any Semitic hatred.

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<v Speaker 2>As a young adult, he had joined the John Birch Society,

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<v Speaker 2>but grew frustrated because there wasn't racist enough it. Became

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<v Speaker 2>a leading figure in the American Nazi Party at the

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<v Speaker 2>age of forty one formed the Neo Nazi National Alliance.

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<v Speaker 2>Beginning in nineteen seventy five, he published in serial form

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most influential examples of white supreme literature,

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<v Speaker 2>The Turner Diaries, a novel which told the story of

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<v Speaker 2>white nationalist revolution in the United States in the near future.

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<v Speaker 2>This revolt is sparked by a Jewish authored law outlying

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<v Speaker 2>private ownership of guns. The hero, Earl Turner, joins an

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<v Speaker 2>underground terrorist army, the organization which battles a Jewish plot

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<v Speaker 2>to destroy America not just through gun control, but also

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<v Speaker 2>through uncontrolled non white immigration and by using rock music

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<v Speaker 2>and drugs to encourage interracial sects. At one point, to

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<v Speaker 2>save the white race, Turner blows up the FBI National

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<v Speaker 2>headquarters in Washington, d C. With a truck bomb.

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<v Speaker 3>In the novel, racist revolutionaries then take over Vandenberg Air

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<v Speaker 3>Force Base in southern California and sees its nuclear missiles,

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<v Speaker 3>which they later use on cities across the nation. While

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<v Speaker 3>ethnically cleansing California of non whites. They hang sixty thousand

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<v Speaker 3>so called race traders during the Day of the Rope,

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<v Speaker 3>a phrase you may find familiar if you've ever looked

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<v Speaker 3>at white supremacist posts online. In the end the books,

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<v Speaker 3>heer Earl Turner finally defeats the system by flying a

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<v Speaker 3>crop duster armed with a small nuclear weapon into the Pentagon.

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<v Speaker 2>White nationalists have since seen the Turner Diaries as both

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<v Speaker 2>an accurate description of the modern world and as a

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<v Speaker 2>manual on how to win a race war. From nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty three to nineteen eighty four, The Order, a white

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<v Speaker 2>supremacist terrorist group that took its name from the Secret Circle.

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<v Speaker 2>The fictional Earl Turner joins, robbed a pornography shop, banks,

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<v Speaker 2>and armored cars, hoisting more than eight million dollars. They

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<v Speaker 2>later distributed to several white supremacist groups with the intent

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<v Speaker 2>of funding a white revolution. Along the way, they assassinated

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish radio talk show hosts Alan Berg. The Turner Diary

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<v Speaker 2>became the favorite novel of Timothy McVeigh, a bitter, disgruntled

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<v Speaker 2>veteran in the nineteen ninety one Gulf War who saw

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<v Speaker 2>the deadly confrontation between the FBI and the Bureau of

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<v Speaker 2>Alcohol to back firearms and the gun totting branch Davidian

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<v Speaker 2>religious sect in Waco, Texas. On April nineteenth, nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>three as a major step and a government plan to

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<v Speaker 2>seize firearms from law abiding Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>McVeigh had spent years selling copies of The Turner Diaries

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<v Speaker 3>at gun shows. He retaliated against what he saw as

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<v Speaker 3>his government oppressors by blowing up the Alfred Murrah Federal

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<v Speaker 3>Building in Oklahoma City on the second anniversary of the

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<v Speaker 3>Waco configuration. He used a truck bomb, facing his attack

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<v Speaker 3>in part on the fictitious bombings of the FBI headquarters

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<v Speaker 3>in William Pierce's novel The Turner Diaries also depicted a

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<v Speaker 3>deadly attack on the US Capitol. Some of the pro

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<v Speaker 3>Trump rioters who assaulted the Capitol on January sixth erected

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<v Speaker 3>gallows and livestreamed their crimes as they joked about hanging politicians,

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<v Speaker 3>comparing it to the day of rope, Pierce described in

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<v Speaker 3>his pro Nazi work of fiction, Stay.

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<v Speaker 5>With Us through This ad Break to learn more.

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy was a classic Cold War liberal in support of

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<v Speaker 2>an aggressive military intervention to stop Communist expansion abroad, and

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<v Speaker 2>with varying degrees, a commitment economic and civil rights reforms

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<v Speaker 2>at home. But because of his assassination by the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>first century, many on the far right saw as a

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<v Speaker 2>martyr to the liberal deep state. Beginning in twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>a very online far right conspiracy theory arose that centered

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<v Speaker 2>on cryptic messages first posted on the four chan message

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<v Speaker 2>board and then on eight chan by an anonymous person

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<v Speaker 2>who identified themselves as Q. The pseudonym was a reference

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<v Speaker 2>to the Q Clearance, which gives government officials access to

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<v Speaker 2>high level security secrets. Kennedy would be central in the

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<v Speaker 2>imagination of what came to be known as the QAnon movement.

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<v Speaker 3>Q or Q and on developed a huge following that

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<v Speaker 3>interpreted these confusing and often contradictory posts as actually revealing

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<v Speaker 3>a secret global cabal that included top Democrats like Hillary

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<v Speaker 3>Clinton and liberal celebrities like Tom Hanks. These people were

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<v Speaker 3>all accused of being a part of a child sex

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<v Speaker 3>trafficking ring in which the young victims were molested and tortured, and,

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<v Speaker 3>in some interpretations of the theories, had their precious bodily

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<v Speaker 3>fluids harvested to manufacture a drug known as adrenochrome, a

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<v Speaker 3>drug that produces hallucinations and supposedly grants eternal youth. These

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<v Speaker 3>stories resembled anti Semitic legends about Jews kidnapping Christian children

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<v Speaker 3>before passover in order to use their blood in Monza bread,

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<v Speaker 3>a trope or canard really that has become known as

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<v Speaker 3>blood libel in the QAnon mythology. Donald Trump plans to

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<v Speaker 3>conduct mass arrests and executions of these Satanic child molesters

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<v Speaker 3>in an event called the Storm. Trump has wing and

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<v Speaker 3>nodded to the q and On movement, encouraged believers, and

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<v Speaker 3>even incorporated some of its key slogans in imagery in

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<v Speaker 3>speeches and posts online, such as where we go on,

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<v Speaker 3>we go All and as I've reported for Rolling Stone,

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<v Speaker 3>a cult like spinoff group of q and On believers

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<v Speaker 3>have repeatedly gathered at Daley Plaza, the site of JFK's murder,

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<v Speaker 3>to wait for the prophesied return of JFK and his son,

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<v Speaker 3>JFK Junior, who both are dead but these believers think

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<v Speaker 3>were either miraculously resurrected or never actually dined, and have

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<v Speaker 3>been secretly working with Trump to take down the aforementioned

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<v Speaker 3>global Satanic pedophile cabal. Some believe that when JFK and

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<v Speaker 3>JFK Junior finally reveal themselves, a sort of Kingdom of

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<v Speaker 3>Righteousness will reign and good will ultimately prevail over evil.

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<v Speaker 2>Q and On believers were a heavy presence during the

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<v Speaker 2>Capitol Insurrection in January sixth, twenty twenty one, and banners

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<v Speaker 2>competed with Trump and Confederate battle flags for attention. And

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<v Speaker 2>November that first year, we saw the first of series

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<v Speaker 2>rallies that Steve just referred to. They went to a

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<v Speaker 2>Daley plaza where President Kennedy had been murdered fifty eight

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<v Speaker 2>years earlier. Over the course of many months, QAnon disciples

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<v Speaker 2>kept returning to the site of JFK's death, some staying

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<v Speaker 2>at a local hotel so they could be nearby when

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<v Speaker 2>the Kennedy return happened. This was covered by Dallas ABC

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<v Speaker 2>affiliate WFAA in November twenty twenty one. Reporter Kevin Reese

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed some of the ones gathered at the Kennedy assassination site.

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<v Speaker 9>Word on the street is that Junior JFK Junior will

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<v Speaker 9>show up and introduce his parents.

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<v Speaker 5>You're expecting JFK Junior.

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely, Okay, how is that going to happen?

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<v Speaker 6>It never does. Are we going to see him today?

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<v Speaker 5>JFK Junior?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's whatever, we're hell of me.

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<v Speaker 5>We're hope and to hope and pray, and then after

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<v Speaker 5>that he'll probably be the vice president with Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Conspiracy theorists often pay a high personal price for beliefs

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<v Speaker 2>that marginalize them from family, friends, and mainstream society.

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<v Speaker 7>There was one real truth several of these people agreed

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<v Speaker 7>to talk about. But you got to understand that most

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<v Speaker 7>of the world is going to think that's just crazy.

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<v Speaker 9>That's why half my family won't talk to me anymore.

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<v Speaker 9>Then one my girlfriend thinks I've lost my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>With the return of Donald Trump to the White House

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<v Speaker 2>on January twentieth, conspiracy theories will move from the fringe

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<v Speaker 2>to the seat of power. JFK Junior won't emerge and

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<v Speaker 2>grab the reins, but a different Kennedy will. Bobby Kennedy Junior.

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby Kennedy Junior has insisted that Wi FI causes cancer

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<v Speaker 2>and that AIDS might not be caused by HIV vaccines.

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<v Speaker 2>He claims against overwhelming evidence, cause autism, antidepressants caused school shootings,

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<v Speaker 2>and micals and water lead to gender dysphoria. One of

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<v Speaker 2>these chemicals, RFK Junior insist might be an old obsession

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<v Speaker 2>of the conspiratorial right.

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<v Speaker 6>I think fluoride is a poison becauses loss IQ in

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<v Speaker 6>our developmental injuries. I think florid is.

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<v Speaker 3>On the way up. RFK Junior mind You is the

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<v Speaker 3>nominee for the head of the Department of Health and

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<v Speaker 3>Human Services and in a recent interview claimed that he

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<v Speaker 3>was aided in his schoolwork through the recreational self medication

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<v Speaker 3>of heroin. Trump has himself obsessively promoted his own sinister

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<v Speaker 3>tales of the deep state that supposedly stole the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty election from him, and as we have said, has

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<v Speaker 3>co opted some of the slogans of the QAnon movement.

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<v Speaker 3>None of this, obviously, was disqualifying to a plurality of

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<v Speaker 3>voters this past November. So why are people drawn to

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<v Speaker 3>conspiracy theories? First off, they provide convenient explanations that can

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<v Speaker 3>be broken down into sort of simple logics for people

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<v Speaker 3>who may not have frameworks for understanding a complex world.

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<v Speaker 3>And they also provide believers sort of new family and

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<v Speaker 3>friends as they become increasingly alienated from their original family

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<v Speaker 3>and friends, regardless of whatever plots they believe they have revealed.

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<v Speaker 3>It's clear that conspiracy theorists of this sort. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>believe that history is a product of class conflict, or

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<v Speaker 3>imperialism or the global scramble for natural resources, not ahing

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<v Speaker 3>like that. It's not shaped by political and economic alliances

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<v Speaker 3>between elites, or irreversible transformations and technology that render old

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<v Speaker 3>job skills irrelevant. There's no material analysis. All of this loss,

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<v Speaker 3>all this fear, all this terrifying disruption of what is

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<v Speaker 3>comfortably routine, they view, stems from a sinister plot, a

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<v Speaker 3>plan that is hidden tightly by a small circle of elites,

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<v Speaker 3>sort of cartoon villains with near superpowers that control the world.

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<v Speaker 3>And if only the right people, the sort of heroes

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<v Speaker 3>of the story of the movie that they think that

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<v Speaker 3>they're watching, if only those people would step forward and

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<v Speaker 3>pull off the mask of the villains, then everything would

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<v Speaker 3>be set right.

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<v Speaker 2>These enemies of freedom somehow pull all the strings in

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<v Speaker 2>sight unseen, manipulate every aspect of the world's politics, culture,

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<v Speaker 2>and finance, manipulate elections, engineer depressions, urban riots, and even hurricanes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet for all their cleverness, they leave just enough clues

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<v Speaker 2>so that amateur sleuths, if they are just smart enough,

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<v Speaker 2>can crack the code. Conspiracy theories make history and understandable

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<v Speaker 2>contests between ruthless bad guys and intrepid heroes, who then

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<v Speaker 2>feel superior because they've unveiled the master plan. As they

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<v Speaker 2>discover kindred spirits, they find community otherwise lacking in their lives. Perhaps,

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<v Speaker 2>if just enough people know about the conspiracy, they hope

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<v Speaker 2>the bad guys will fall and the millennium will follow.

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<v Speaker 2>That fantasy offers a simpler, more emotionally satisfying vision of

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<v Speaker 2>the future than planning on how to dismantle capitalism or

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<v Speaker 2>figuring out how to persuade white people, for instance, surrender

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<v Speaker 2>their privileges that come with skin color. Conspiracy theories are

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<v Speaker 2>mostly a distraction, but unfortunately they are often from Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 2>City to the US capital, a call for deadly action.

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<v Speaker 3>And while figures like hl hunt and their operations like

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<v Speaker 3>Lifeline may be in the past, we have our own

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<v Speaker 3>contemporary versions of this with roots in Texas. We now

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<v Speaker 3>have Elon Musk who controls x formerly known as Twitter,

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<v Speaker 3>in which he has used his platform with millions of

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<v Speaker 3>followers to promote dangerous conspiracy theories like the Great Replacement theory,

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<v Speaker 3>which we recorded a previous episode of this podcast about.

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<v Speaker 3>Ultimately we are living in a culture that swims with

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<v Speaker 3>conspiracy theories, and for us to make our way out

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<v Speaker 3>of the rabbit hole, we're going to need some sort

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<v Speaker 3>of framework for understanding the world, something that can help

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<v Speaker 3>us better understand how we got here and where we're going.

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<v Speaker 3>And no matter what that is, it certainly won't be

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<v Speaker 3>something as simple as believing that we just have to

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<v Speaker 3>pull off the mask of some villain and then everything

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<v Speaker 3>will be set straight from there.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Michael Phillips and.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Stephen Monticelli.

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