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Speaker 1: WBC studios. Welcome in, everybody. We've got John Machoda back
Speaker 1: in the building today. What's up, John, what's going on?
Speaker 5: He'll be back to be back.
Speaker 1: It feels like we're in that loll. We've got Nick
Speaker 1: Harris and Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman's.
Speaker 1: But it's that loll between the Super Bowl and the
Speaker 1: combine where there's nothing going on whatsoever. There's no Pro
Speaker 1: Days yet, there's no free agency yet, there's really nothing.
Speaker 1: It's the end of the coaching carousel. You get to
Speaker 1: see some hires. We'll talk about that a little bit
Speaker 1: later on, but yeah, Nick, whenever you look at the
Speaker 1: NFL landscape, there's.
Speaker 5: Not anything happening really.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the only thing you can really look at from
Speaker 6: the calendar is franchise tags are able to be applied
Speaker 6: starting today going forward for the next two weeks. But
Speaker 6: it doesn't look like this franchise is going to use
Speaker 6: one this year. We've talked about it at nauseaum, I
Speaker 6: believe so far here in the offseason and then during
Speaker 6: the season as well, it just doesn't make sense to
Speaker 6: put that tag.
Speaker 7: On anybody right now going into twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6: So I would expect the Cowboys to be quiet in
Speaker 6: the next couple of weeks from that instance. But I
Speaker 6: think also you could look for, you know, before free agency.
Speaker 6: I think there's a couple of things you can still
Speaker 6: look for for this team. And one it's a potential
Speaker 6: restructuring of Dak Prescott's con track. I think that's something
Speaker 6: you you can kind of look at, but that could
Speaker 6: happen before free agency. You can talk about Ceedee Lamb's
Speaker 6: contract too. I don't think that necessarily has as much
Speaker 6: importance of getting done before March eleventh hits, but you know,
Speaker 6: maybe trying to get a beat on the receiver market
Speaker 6: before guys like Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase and those
Speaker 6: guys get their deals.
Speaker 7: You know, that's certainly something to keep an eye on.
Speaker 6: And I believe Mike Evans as well is going to
Speaker 6: be up for an extension this year as well, So
Speaker 6: there's a lot to still kind of keep an eye
Speaker 6: on and keep your keep your ear out for. You know,
Speaker 6: I'm kind of keeping my phone faced up just in
Speaker 6: case for a couple of those reasons. But yeah, most definitely,
Speaker 6: I think the focus is Combined, which you know, will
Speaker 6: be in Indianapolis next week. I'll miss next week's show, Sorry, guys,
Speaker 6: you know Dan, I'm just I'm.
Speaker 8: Not thinking I'm gonna be too Yeah, yeah, come on,
Speaker 8: come on.
Speaker 7: Down, John.
Speaker 5: I think that means we're all missing next yea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds about It's gonna be me by myself
Speaker 1: talking about the combine. Maybe I'll just do like a
Speaker 1: storyline ask type show where I've.
Speaker 5: Got just phone calls coming in.
Speaker 1: I'll learn from Nick Eatmon and there or and I'll
Speaker 1: ask him some Maybe that's how we do it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe the phone calls are you guys, it's you maybe
Speaker 1: in Indy, John and Indy, and then we can go.
Speaker 6: To Isaacah and Mount Kilimanjarro. He got in yesterday after
Speaker 6: about eighteen hours of flying. So you see the first
Speaker 6: seat that he was in so bad.
Speaker 1: I mean he looked like he was doing he was
Speaker 1: halfway down in a squat, like he had zero leg room.
Speaker 8: Well, eighteen hours, it was about four hours.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well I think he went to Detroit first. So
Speaker 5: you know that flight. How long is that flight?
Speaker 8: Two three hours?
Speaker 7: Two three Okay, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 6: He went Dallas, Detroit, Detroit to Amsterdam, than Amsterdam to
Speaker 6: kill him in Jarrow And it was about eighteen to
Speaker 6: twenty hours of traveling all in all.
Speaker 7: And yeah, he made it in.
Speaker 5: Yesterday, but he did make it safely.
Speaker 7: Better better man than me, Better man than me.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the franchise tag? Nick talked
Speaker 1: about it a little bit there initially, but this is
Speaker 1: an organization that has not been shy from using the
Speaker 1: franchise tag in the past. Is there any possibility on
Speaker 1: this roster that would be a franchise tag player?
Speaker 8: No, it would be very surprising. Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 8: a no brainer not to use it this year. That's
Speaker 8: why they're not doing it that anytime. I feel like
Speaker 8: the Cowboys. There's someone in the discussion. I feel like
Speaker 8: the Cowboys lean on and now we'll give them the tag.
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think there's any better example than
Speaker 8: Tony Pollard last year. But I mean we've seen it
Speaker 8: past Marcus Lawrence as whatever goes on and on. So yeah,
Speaker 8: they're not shy about using it. But I mean I
Speaker 8: look at that sixteen unrestricted free agents. I don't see
Speaker 8: anybody that is makes any sense to use that. You know,
Speaker 8: people ask ask me, like, oh, who do they absolutely
Speaker 8: have to sign? Who they absolutely have to bring back?
Speaker 8: Like absolutely nobody. I mean, now, there's definitely people that
Speaker 8: you want to bring back. There's there's some key pieces
Speaker 8: there that would really help your roster, but there is
Speaker 8: no in years past where you would have basically all
Speaker 8: the guys that are right over your shoulder right now, Mike,
Speaker 8: you know, tray Von Diggs, C d Lamb, Dak you know,
Speaker 8: there's there's nobody like that that you have to you
Speaker 8: have to get that done. I mean, I guess if
Speaker 8: Tony Pollard was coming off like a seventeen hundred yard
Speaker 8: season or something like that, of course, then that would
Speaker 8: be somebody that you'd factor in. But but that not
Speaker 8: being the case. I mean, I just think it's a
Speaker 8: no brainer that they wouldn't do anything with the tag.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's just nobody on that list that you want
Speaker 7: to pay market value for right now. I'd be shocked.
Speaker 6: I think Tony Pollard could have been an idea before
Speaker 6: the season started. Maybe he gets tagged again going in
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four, but I think with the production that
Speaker 6: you got from him in twenty twenty three, it doesn't
Speaker 6: make sense to pay him that value right now.
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm thinking it would have to have been
Speaker 8: excuse me, not even regular season. Yeah, they would have
Speaker 8: had to probably make the NFC Championship Game or Super Bowl,
Speaker 8: and he would have had to be a big part
Speaker 8: of it.
Speaker 7: Where you're just like, whoa the check.
Speaker 8: Yeah, whoa, they've been saving this thing up for the playoffs.
Speaker 8: Where did this come from? And he's got like a
Speaker 8: buck fifty against Green Bay and then and then and
Speaker 8: then they play San Francisco and he's got like one
Speaker 8: hundred and seventy five yards or somewhere. You're just like, well,
Speaker 8: we can't even mess around. This is such a big
Speaker 8: part of this team. But I've always said that covering
Speaker 8: this team thirteen years now, I've always going at this
Speaker 8: time in the off season, I'm like, well, if the
Speaker 8: season ended different, you can make a case for anybody,
Speaker 8: because if it gets you finally to that Super Bowl, yeah,
Speaker 8: get wild, I mean and.
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, there's they're going to keep everybody
Speaker 5: around that if you're.
Speaker 8: Balling in the playoffs and you've got this Cowboys team
Speaker 8: to a super Bowl, I can make arguments for a
Speaker 8: lot of guys. But like I said, I've been covering
Speaker 8: team for thirteen years. That hasn't happened. So a lot
Speaker 8: of these decisions to me are relatively easy.
Speaker 1: Has hasn't happened. They have applied the tag every year
Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen. It was de Marcus Lawrence back to
Speaker 1: back years. Then of course everybody remembers Dak Prescott in
Speaker 1: back to back years twenty twenty and twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Then it was Dalton Schultzen twenty two, Tony Pollard in
Speaker 1: twenty three. So it'd be the first time since twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen the Dallas has not applied the tag. I'm with you, guys,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a guy on the roster, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't think there's anywhere who's the
Speaker 1: best chance there. Maybe I was thinking maybe a specialists,
Speaker 1: like like a Trent Sig. Yeah, like something weird like
Speaker 1: that matter. Trent Sig gets the friend, you get the
Speaker 1: franchise tag On.
Speaker 5: Brian Anger, I mean, I don't know what his contract situation.
Speaker 7: He's not he's not up to be a free agent.
Speaker 8: I mean, I only I mean, who are the top
Speaker 8: guy is in there? It's it's Tyron Smith, It's Tony Pollard,
Speaker 8: It's Stephan Gilmore, it's Beyottish and Laren's Arms Gilmore.
Speaker 6: I don't think you're paying market value for Gilmore, but
Speaker 6: you look at what he brought to this team last year.
Speaker 7: I'm just trying to look for the best case, like
Speaker 7: who has the ten percent change?
Speaker 1: Well, remember it isn't it the combination of the top
Speaker 1: five core player or the average kind of money.
Speaker 6: It would be like Tyron, Tyron Smith and be Oddish year.
Speaker 6: I don't think you're giving either of those guys.
Speaker 5: Top five money.
Speaker 8: So Steph On Gilmore would be in in in this.
Speaker 8: In that conversation for me five years ago, team doesn't
Speaker 8: have darn Bland, Trayvon DIDs is coming off that knee injury.
Speaker 8: Then I'm like, that's a because I'm I think you
Speaker 8: need three, Like it's no more to starting corners, you
Speaker 8: need three starting corners. But so I want Gilmore back,
Speaker 8: There's no question about that. And it sounds like from
Speaker 8: everything he said during the Super Bowl week that he
Speaker 8: wants to be back. So I agree with you. I
Speaker 8: wanted to bring him back. I just didn't win one
Speaker 8: to give that franchise tag number.
Speaker 5: Uh do Armstrong?
Speaker 6: No, I don't think you're paying top that to money.
Speaker 6: Wouldn't be that's that's you're talking. Gosh, is that what
Speaker 6: Joey Bosa money?
Speaker 8: If it's if it's top five, we see what it
Speaker 8: would look like for they do something, do something like that. Honestly,
Speaker 8: my biggest takeaway on that is would be Michael must
Speaker 8: be playing a lot of linebacker next year. That must
Speaker 8: be part of their plan because when you have Mike
Speaker 8: uh and DeMarcus Lawrence, I don't know how you would
Speaker 8: be trying to spend, like even if you take the
Speaker 8: tag out of it. Just in free agency with Dorrance,
Speaker 8: I mean their best two edge rushers and preg So
Speaker 8: it would be Dorance and Dante Fowler. I honestly would
Speaker 8: be surprised if one of them, if not both, ends
Speaker 8: up in Washington with Dan Quinn. I would like to
Speaker 8: head one of them back, you know, but it would
Speaker 8: have to be That's what I like when I look
Speaker 8: at all those I know you've written about it too,
Speaker 8: Like those all those unrestricted free agents, Like there's really
Speaker 8: almost nobody on there unless they're willing to come for
Speaker 8: somewhat of a team friendly deal. There's nobody that you're
Speaker 8: you're looking at. You're just like, well, you might have
Speaker 8: to overpay a little bit to keep that guy. It's like, no,
Speaker 8: I mean, it's gonna suck if you if you lose
Speaker 8: some of those guys, but you don't. You shouldn't be
Speaker 8: overpaying for any of them.
Speaker 5: I really think Larrance would be about a twenty million hit.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's not gonna happen, Absolutely not.
Speaker 5: Sorry.
Speaker 6: I think I think the only one that was a
Speaker 6: home run from the day the season ended is Trent Sig.
Speaker 6: You got to bring him back, but long snap five
Speaker 6: point six, five point six for Trent's sake on a
Speaker 6: franchise tag yep.
Speaker 7: I just I don't think they'll tag him like they don't.
Speaker 7: They don't necessarily need to.
Speaker 6: And then as time went on, Gilmour makes more sense
Speaker 6: with what the comment said he made in Super Bowl week. So,
Speaker 6: I mean, other than those two guys, you look at Gosh,
Speaker 6: it's it's it's interesting. You look at Tyron Smith, you
Speaker 6: look at Tyler be Oddish, and you wonder, you know,
Speaker 6: how does the team gonna approach those two guys? How
Speaker 6: do they pair that with the draft class that's coming
Speaker 6: up this year, especially a deep offensive line class in
Speaker 6: the first round.
Speaker 7: But the thing is, we've talked about this on the
Speaker 7: Draft Show. Let's say they go in on.
Speaker 6: Tyron Smith and they let Tyler be Ottish walk, So
Speaker 6: they're banking on getting that center in the first round.
Speaker 7: It doesn't fall to them.
Speaker 6: They all get there's a run before two twenty four
Speaker 6: and that center gets taken off the board. Then are
Speaker 6: they rolling with brock Hoffin or TJ. Bassett starting center,
Speaker 6: which you know they had their moments last year at times,
Speaker 6: but how comfortable are they with that? And then on
Speaker 6: the flip side, they pay Beiottish let Tyron Smith walk,
Speaker 6: So they're hoping to find that tackle to be able
Speaker 6: to put it left tackle Okay, you follow the twenty four,
Speaker 6: that guy that you like at twenty four is not
Speaker 6: there and you kind of have to reach a little bit.
Speaker 6: So I wonder where they go with that direction. How
Speaker 6: do they kind of play with that, and is there
Speaker 6: an option where both come back and they still draft.
Speaker 7: An offensive line in the first round. I think there's
Speaker 7: a lot of those situations I could play out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just I'm looking through these numbers too, and some
Speaker 1: of the tag numbers are just unreal. I mean, Gilmour
Speaker 1: would be eighteen, Tyler Biottish would be nineteen, along with
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith that would also be nineteen.
Speaker 7: The center is nineteen.
Speaker 1: Wow, Well, I think it's just offensive line, okay, may
Speaker 1: I mean that's what it has here. That's unofficial. Don't
Speaker 1: take my word for it. This is off of a
Speaker 1: specific website that I don't necessarily think pays money to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, So I don't want to necessarily put.
Speaker 5: Their name out there.
Speaker 1: But it's a good website, it's yeah, And so I
Speaker 1: think there's there's ways that you can build this roster
Speaker 1: without the franchise tag.
Speaker 5: And by ways, I mean that's probably the only way.
Speaker 8: I mean, it would be honestly think it's kind of
Speaker 8: been shocking. You just go down the list of forget
Speaker 8: who's a free agent right now, you just go down
Speaker 8: the list of this Dallas Cowboys team, and let's say
Speaker 8: every single person on the roster was a free agent.
Speaker 8: There's crobaently five or six guys that you put the
Speaker 8: tag on. Maybe I'm off, but yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 8: wouldn't You wouldn't let Trayvon Diggs go. You wouldn't let
Speaker 8: John Bland go, you wouldn't let Micah go. And I
Speaker 8: think I'm almost done in defense. I was gonna start,
Speaker 8: oh oh yeah, and then and then on offense, because
Speaker 8: I don't think you're given twenty million to DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 8: So so then on offense Cede Lamb, Dak Prescott, Tyler Smith,
Speaker 8: Tyler Smith or Zach Martin. So I mean, even with that,
Speaker 8: that's we're at seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Brandon Aubrey.
Speaker 8: Brandon Aubrey Canlan. Also, by the way, I usually sit
Speaker 8: over there, I'm a very distractable player or are you.
Speaker 5: Watching TV over here?
Speaker 8: I mean when you look at that all, it's like
Speaker 8: very easy to be like, but I keep like looking
Speaker 8: over them, like there's a lot going on over there.
Speaker 1: I'm very wait till you, like if you sat in
Speaker 1: on a draft show, which by the way, we've got
Speaker 1: an open chair, so if you want to stick around,
Speaker 1: you can't. But they'll put up highlights of these players
Speaker 1: like film highlights, and all of us being film buffs, we'll.
Speaker 5: Just start watching.
Speaker 1: We'll start watching, like the hands placements and everything. This
Speaker 1: new studio is phenomenal.
Speaker 5: It's no correcting, it really is.
Speaker 8: But I mean, you guys obviously are in the press
Speaker 8: box after games, and there's some people and I used
Speaker 8: to think I was one of these people. I'm not anymore.
Speaker 8: But that can just work in the main area where
Speaker 8: everybody's at, and then there's other people that work back
Speaker 8: by the tables. This is after the game's over. I've
Speaker 8: become a work back by the tables because I'm so
Speaker 8: easily distracted by everything that's being talked about after And
Speaker 8: just imagine after a big winn or a big loss,
Speaker 8: how like loud. It can get in that press box
Speaker 8: with people coming back from the locker room talking about
Speaker 8: different things they heard Jerry said this or whatever. You
Speaker 8: weren't buy it, So now you're trying to listen in
Speaker 8: what did he say? Hold on, am I gonna have
Speaker 8: to write this differently?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 8: So it's like I'm very I don't know, older, I
Speaker 8: get it more distract while I am.
Speaker 3: But now there's a lot.
Speaker 8: Going on back there, a lot of cakeball parties and yeah,
Speaker 8: cake ball parties of course.
Speaker 5: We love the cakeballs.
Speaker 8: Yeah, at and Delicious.
Speaker 5: Any other news and notes here, Nick before we take
Speaker 5: our first.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's about it. You know, you look at this
Speaker 6: little role in the off season, like you said, you know,
Speaker 6: this is a this is a time where I think,
Speaker 6: you know, players are recharging. I know a couple of
Speaker 6: guys have been still in the facility, Marviy and overshow
Speaker 6: and I've seen quite a bit still rehabbing and getting
Speaker 6: going with that John Stevens Junior as well, the undrafted
Speaker 6: tied end that kind of popped during camps.
Speaker 7: So you know, rehabbing still definitely going on.
Speaker 6: I haven't seen Trayvon Diggs around, but that doesn't necessarily
Speaker 6: mean that he's not he's not rehabbing, you know, still
Speaker 6: doing his his work as well.
Speaker 7: So we'll just kind of see as time goes on.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think the big thing we're looking for
Speaker 6: coming out of this week could be combined next week
Speaker 6: and then we start looking forward to free agency.
Speaker 7: That's gonna be a fun week.
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Speaker 1: Eight eight eight, eight five five two two nine seven
Speaker 1: is the phone line, and then eight one seven two
Speaker 1: nine zero three two nine eight if you want to
Speaker 1: does a text message, we'll answer that as well. Nick,
Speaker 1: If you had the guess, what is the number one
Speaker 1: thing that's on the mind of Cowboys fans right now?
Speaker 7: Is there like an overwhelmings I No, I mean not,
Speaker 7: I'm just guessing.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, just guessing, just throwing a guess out there.
Speaker 7: Ah, what big move will they make in free agency?
Speaker 7: If any?
Speaker 6: I think that's probably the biggest thing. You know, Jerry
Speaker 6: talks about being all in fans. You know, some are not,
Speaker 6: a lot are not buying in. Some are you know,
Speaker 6: maybe a little bit more optimistic than in year's past.
Speaker 6: So I think everyone's trying to see what that looks like.
Speaker 8: I would that's a good one. If I'm going off
Speaker 8: of my Twitter mentions, And maybe this has to do
Speaker 8: with content that I put out, but I would say
Speaker 8: for me, my clear number one it's not even debatable,
Speaker 8: is does Michael Parsons need to be doing all these podcasts.
Speaker 8: Is he need to do at the All Star Game?
Speaker 8: Does he need to be doing this? Does he need
Speaker 8: to be doing that? Michael Parsons off season and things
Speaker 8: he does away from the facility are very high on.
Speaker 8: You know, people trying to get his autograph at the
Speaker 8: airport and things like that.
Speaker 7: So he's actually trying to enter the Olympics.
Speaker 6: You can see because he just won the MVP in
Speaker 6: the Celebrity All Star Game and then he was tweeting
Speaker 6: out last night. He's trying to join a men's softball
Speaker 6: league in Frisco. So yeah, he's trying to get all
Speaker 6: the sports done this offseason game.
Speaker 1: Hey, Michael, we've got an open spot on our team.
Speaker 1: If you want to join, you can come on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were runners up in our league last year.
Speaker 1: We almost wanted called the recess Rejects. We could totally
Speaker 1: make it happen. We wear the ugliest uniforms.
Speaker 5: By the way, if.
Speaker 7: Michael doesn't jump on, let me know, I'll let you
Speaker 7: know some good second base.
Speaker 5: All right, I might be missing a couple of games.
Speaker 5: I've got some kiddos on the way, so we'll make
Speaker 5: it work.
Speaker 7: Yeah you got three extra.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly all right, We've got Eric in North
Speaker 1: Carolina on the line.
Speaker 5: Eric, what's on your mind? You're on Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 16: Hey, guys, Harry all today doing great?
Speaker 3: How are you all doing well.
Speaker 16: I was just reading an article about from Patrick Walker
Speaker 16: that said that Jimmy Johnson is on Jerry Jones advisory board,
Speaker 16: and I was just wondering if you guys could talk
Speaker 16: about that, and and just the second thing is, I
Speaker 16: was wondering if y'all could give me your top five linebackers,
Speaker 16: like on your stack. My top one is Tommy Ikenberg
Speaker 16: And I'll just hang up and listen.
Speaker 5: Awesome.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Eric, Two good questions. Yeah, you can read
Speaker 1: that article on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Jimmy Johnson and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are leaning hard into the makeup portion of
Speaker 1: their relationship as of late. That's the opening line from
Speaker 1: Patrick Walker. His quote, specifically on WQAM five sixty am
Speaker 1: in Miami was since the ring of honor, I'm on
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones's board advisory board now, possibly with a bit
Speaker 1: of jest regarding having an actual title, so there might
Speaker 1: not be an actual advisory.
Speaker 5: Board for Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1: But that's what's Jimmy saying here is he's been in
Speaker 1: the back pocket of Jerry, and he's been having his
Speaker 1: own conversations since that day.
Speaker 6: I think that's great to see from a Cowboys fan perspective,
Speaker 6: you know, to see those two being able to not
Speaker 6: only come together for the Ring of Honor this past year,
Speaker 6: but now being able to kind of work together in
Speaker 6: some ways. And you know, Jerry reaching out to Jimmy
Speaker 6: for advice. But I don't put a whole lot of
Speaker 6: stock into it as far as the big picture stuff.
Speaker 8: I don't either. It does sound good just because the
Speaker 8: last time those two worked together, it led to building
Speaker 8: a dynasty, and that's what every Cowboys fan wants this
Speaker 8: team to get back to, So of course you like
Speaker 8: hearing that. I find it just interesting just because of
Speaker 8: the fact of that never should have the communication, never
Speaker 8: should have stoped between the two of them, you know,
Speaker 8: And I think there's some pettiness probably there on both sides.
Speaker 8: I think both are a little bit to blame for that.
Speaker 8: So however it came to to where Jerry finally put
Speaker 8: them in the Ring of Honor, I think that that's
Speaker 8: a good move that helped them kind of maybe bury
Speaker 8: the hatchet and kind of get back on talking terms.
Speaker 8: But I think it's a good thing because Jimmy is
Speaker 8: a guy that a lot of people around the NFL
Speaker 8: lean on that will go down and visit him in
Speaker 8: the keys and stuff like that. I know over those
Speaker 8: years of the Dynasty years in New England, Bill Belichick
Speaker 8: was doing that a lot. So yeah, I think it's
Speaker 8: a I think it's a good thing, but I don't
Speaker 8: I don't look at it as necessarily like, oh, well,
Speaker 8: now now they're going to return to the nineties glory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you think about it? Second part of
Speaker 1: the question, stack and some linebackers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so linebackers you talked about on the draft blog
Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago in Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 6: potential double dip positions, and I think linebacker is certainly
Speaker 6: one that you know could happen if the Cowboys maybe
Speaker 6: even pick up an extra pick here in the draft.
Speaker 7: It's it's very necessary to get one in the early rounds.
Speaker 6: He's sort of top five that I have a number
Speaker 6: one Edrian Cooper out of Texas A and m number
Speaker 6: two Peyton Wilson out of North Carolina State. Three Jeremiah
Speaker 6: Trotter junior out of Clemson, four Cedric Gray out of
Speaker 6: North Carolina, and then five. Yeah, your boy Ikenberg there, Eric, Yeah,
Speaker 6: I think he's He's definitely got some run stoppability. He's
Speaker 6: got that physicality that I think this team would need.
Speaker 6: I think there's two types of linebackers that you're kind
Speaker 6: of seeing in this draft. You got the athletic guys
Speaker 6: that can cover all around the field, and then you
Speaker 6: got some of the bigger set guys who maybe more
Speaker 6: downhill guys that will stop the run.
Speaker 7: You look at second levels.
Speaker 6: Like Baltimore, you look at second levels like Kansas City,
Speaker 6: and you wonder how you can kind of replicate those
Speaker 6: I think there's a way to go in either of
Speaker 6: those directions with guys in this draft if they if
Speaker 6: they feel like they can pop on one in the
Speaker 6: second or third rounds. I think any of those five
Speaker 6: guys would be interesting directions to take.
Speaker 7: I've got Cooper from A and M.
Speaker 1: Trotter from Clemson, Peyton Wilson from ENCI State, I like
Speaker 1: Junior Colson from Michigan. Ayah, well, you talk about a
Speaker 1: big downhill defender. Six with three two forty seven, I
Speaker 1: mean these are guys that are I mean, that is
Speaker 1: a guy who's stuffed the run. And I think Ikenberg's
Speaker 1: in there too. He's just outside my top five. He's
Speaker 1: at number six right now. So there's a lot of
Speaker 1: good players there. Are you considering Dallas Turner from Alabama
Speaker 1: and Ed Rusher? Yes, I am too, Okay, So I
Speaker 1: just want to make sure we're on the same page.
Speaker 1: Chris Braswell's in there too, both out out of Alabama,
Speaker 1: both kind of played that three four outside linebackers. Sort
Speaker 1: of feel I'm I'm considering them ed rushers and I'm
Speaker 1: staying more true to linebacker here with Cooper, Trotter, Wilson
Speaker 1: and Colson.
Speaker 7: Yeah, mainly off the ball guys.
Speaker 8: Swarre draft expert at the Athletic Is is Dane Brugler,
Speaker 8: whoever used to work on the Draft show here does
Speaker 8: a great job. I lean on him for a lot
Speaker 8: of the draft stuff because I just, I mean, that's
Speaker 8: his that's his job three sixty five, you know. And
Speaker 8: so I recently put together like twenty players to know
Speaker 8: for the Cowboys in the first round, and what kind
Speaker 8: of stood out to me, I used Dane's top one
Speaker 8: hundred draft board is kind of a template for it,
Speaker 8: and it was interesting how he didn't have he doesn't
Speaker 8: have a linebacker in the top thirty eight players out
Speaker 8: of his top one, right, yeah, and he has Colson
Speaker 8: at thirty nine. This is out of his top one hundred,
Speaker 8: just linebackers.
Speaker 5: These are these are his Colson is number one.
Speaker 8: He does wow, And so these are thought I was
Speaker 8: high having him as four out of his top one hundred.
Speaker 8: He has five linebackers, so it lines up with the
Speaker 8: caller asking the question, and so he has he has
Speaker 8: Colson at thirty nine, Eddrian Cooper at forty two, Iikenberg
Speaker 8: at seventy four, Peyton Wilson at seventy seven, and Trotter
Speaker 8: at ninety nine. And that kind of surprised me a
Speaker 8: little bit, just as a Florida State fan, because I've
Speaker 8: seen Trotter a lot with Clemson and I just think
Speaker 8: he's phenomenal. I think if you if like it lined up,
Speaker 8: like let's say that draft board went exactly like the
Speaker 8: draft goes, if you're able to get Trotter at ninety nine,
Speaker 8: I just think that would be that's yeah, great, great.
Speaker 5: Would be beautiful.
Speaker 1: That's better than you pick Nashwan, right, and that means
Speaker 1: you're pick yeah, and that means you're picking something significant
Speaker 1: of value in the first two rounds to pass over
Speaker 1: a linebacker.
Speaker 5: That means you're getting probably an offensive lineman, maybe two.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're getting a big defensive tackle, like a sweat
Speaker 1: or something out of Texas in the second round.
Speaker 5: I would love that pairing.
Speaker 1: You get an offensive lineman in the first, you get
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle in the second, get a linebacker in
Speaker 1: the third, and it's Jeremiah Trotter, sign me up.
Speaker 8: You know what impacts this a lot, though, is you know,
Speaker 8: when we go to the combine next week, it's it's
Speaker 8: not I mean, it's obviously about the draft, but it's
Speaker 8: a lot about free agency too. You know, going on
Speaker 8: Jerry's bus, there's a lot I mean, the agents are
Speaker 8: there the whole time, so there's a lot of unofficial
Speaker 8: talking about free agency things like that. Trades can you know,
Speaker 8: discussions can happen and stuff like that. And it's like
Speaker 8: if the draft was next week, like I'm thinking that
Speaker 8: the Cowboys are taking a linebacker second round, and they might,
Speaker 8: but if they make a trade between now and the draft,
Speaker 8: or do they sign something in free agency? Because Mike
Speaker 8: Zimmer likes this linebacker. They want to bring in a
Speaker 8: veteran and you pair that with what they have with
Speaker 8: Clark and Overshown. I mean, maybe they don't draft one,
Speaker 8: you know, but as we see here today, like ripping
Speaker 8: off those five names, like, you'd think that there's a
Speaker 8: decent chance of the Cowboys draft one of those players.
Speaker 8: Because that's such a major position. It has to be addressed,
Speaker 8: no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 1: I think there's ways that you can address those positions,
Speaker 1: but it's got to be linebacker. You got to find
Speaker 1: something there at some point this offseason. Since they haven't
Speaker 1: done anything yet, we're looking straight at the looking straight
Speaker 1: at the draft.
Speaker 5: Currently. All right, let's go to Nebby in Maryland. What's
Speaker 5: going on? Nebby?
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, It's been a long time since I've been
Speaker 2: on this show, so I just got to say, it
Speaker 2: feels great to be back on Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Nebi, thanks for calling in. You've always been great.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. That means a lot coming from you. Listen,
Speaker 2: I have a comment, I have a comment, and then
Speaker 2: I have a question. My comment is I just want
Speaker 2: to thank Will McClay for being so loyal to the
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys, and I really hope that we are able
Speaker 2: to win a Super Bowl championship before he leaves this
Speaker 2: organization to become a general manager somewhere else. And my
Speaker 2: question is do you see Deduced fun having a role
Speaker 2: on on the Dallas Cowboys next year? Because I am
Speaker 2: really high on him and I really think he can
Speaker 2: help us out. I take care, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for being patient with me, and have a great week.
Speaker 5: Oh bye, Great job, Nevy, great job man.
Speaker 1: The first thing about Will McClay, no doubt, I'm in
Speaker 1: all agreeance with him, and hopefully they do get it
Speaker 1: done because he's done a great job of building this
Speaker 1: roster drafting. That's why it is exciting to talk about
Speaker 1: the draft in this building. There were other organizations around
Speaker 1: the NFL where you look at the draft and you say,
Speaker 1: that's just.
Speaker 5: Another date on the calendar. It could work out, it
Speaker 5: could not. Here.
Speaker 1: You've really built some trust with this front office in
Speaker 1: the way that they've they've angled towards the draft.
Speaker 5: That's what makes things exciting moving forward. And Will mcclay's
Speaker 5: the head of all that.
Speaker 8: And the Deuce Fawn thing is interesting because I think
Speaker 8: that He's obviously a great story and a lot of
Speaker 8: people love that about it, But I just thought that
Speaker 8: there'd be We just saw a little glimpses where they
Speaker 8: were able to get them involved last year, and I
Speaker 8: just thought more of that would be utilized as a
Speaker 8: season when I and there was less of it sure,
Speaker 8: And so kind of like going with the linebacker thing,
Speaker 8: it's one of those deals where I don't know. I
Speaker 8: kind of feel like if we're going in the draft
Speaker 8: right now, I mean, if you don't have Tony Poward,
Speaker 8: you have to draft a running back relatively early. I'm
Speaker 8: not talking about first round, but I would think somewhere
Speaker 8: maybe as early as the second or third. But I
Speaker 8: just I don't know that duce Vaughan is going to
Speaker 8: be the answer there where you look at him as
Speaker 8: like he's getting fifteen carries a game. I just don't
Speaker 8: know that that not with what I saw from the
Speaker 8: offense last year, which is obviously going to be a
Speaker 8: similar offense to what we see next year.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think the.
Speaker 6: Ceiling there obviously is a complimentary back that does a
Speaker 6: lot in the receiving game, and potentially, you know, if
Speaker 6: there's one day that the team decides to move on
Speaker 6: from Turp and then you know you have a return
Speaker 6: threat and do spawn there. But yeah, his opportunities, and
Speaker 6: this was something I kind of cracked down after the
Speaker 6: season with him specifically, is whenever his opportunities came, they
Speaker 6: came in times where the second team offensive line was in.
Speaker 6: He wasn't really able to get many running wanes. Not
Speaker 6: to say he's not to take any fault, but gosh,
Speaker 6: there were some opportunities. You look at half of his
Speaker 6: carries and I don't think any of us are getting
Speaker 6: any yards on those carries. So I would like to
Speaker 6: see him get that one more big shot during training
Speaker 6: camp and preseason next year. See what he does with that,
Speaker 6: see if he's improved going into year two. And if
Speaker 6: he has, then you know there's an opportunity for him
Speaker 6: to be on this on this team going into year two.
Speaker 6: But I think training camp and preseason is going to
Speaker 6: be really big for him.
Speaker 1: I didn't event this past weekend for the Cowboys club
Speaker 1: where we were talking about the season recap and we had.
Speaker 5: It on that but well, we were talking about the.
Speaker 1: Season as a whole, and we had a couple questions
Speaker 1: over Duce Fawn and here's another one from Neby. When's
Speaker 1: the last time we're talking about a six round player
Speaker 1: in the middle of March or I guess February is
Speaker 1: still about wanting to see more of the six round player.
Speaker 1: The expectations are high for duce Fawn, but you got
Speaker 1: to remember who he was as a draft pick.
Speaker 5: He was a late day three draft pick and working
Speaker 5: into the fold.
Speaker 1: One of the compar Garrison's I had with him during
Speaker 1: draft time, and it wasn't an uncommon comparison, it's darren Sproles.
Speaker 5: If you look at darren Sproles and what he did
Speaker 5: in his.
Speaker 1: First season he was with the San Diego Chargers fifteen games,
Speaker 1: he had eight carries for fifty yards, did not have
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and then he had three receptions for ten yards,
Speaker 1: so total yardage wise, he had what is that sixty
Speaker 1: yards total his entire rookie season. Then he missed the
Speaker 1: entire second season.
Speaker 5: With an ankle injury.
Speaker 1: So through the first two years of the league, darren
Speaker 1: Sproles had nothing go his way, and honestly, he didn't
Speaker 1: end up really doing much with San Diego. They moved
Speaker 1: on from him in twenty eleven. He stayed five years
Speaker 1: with San Diego, had a decent career with the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Then he moved on to New Orleans. But then it
Speaker 1: was when he got to Philly in twenty fourteen where
Speaker 1: things really hit the ground running. Deuce Vaughn's got to
Speaker 1: figure out a way to make it in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he's not trying to bank away.
Speaker 1: He's as involved as an individual, he's as motivated as
Speaker 1: an individual.
Speaker 5: He has got the right mindset to be in the NFL.
Speaker 1: But he's got to find a way to adjust to
Speaker 1: the pace of play, and teams are going to have
Speaker 1: to adjust into how they figure out how to use
Speaker 1: douce Vawn. And he had twenty three carries forty yards
Speaker 1: over seven games. He had seven receptions for forty yards,
Speaker 1: so he actually had eighty yards of production compared to
Speaker 1: sixty for Darren Sprolls. I'm not giving up on duce
Speaker 1: Fawn just yet, but at the same time, you've got
Speaker 1: to look at where he is as a player. He's
Speaker 1: got a long way to go, and I think the
Speaker 1: team has a long way to go to find a
Speaker 1: way to use him.
Speaker 6: He had a couple of fun moments in preseason, he
Speaker 6: really did had great moments. That touchdown I'm looking at
Speaker 6: right here from the Seattle game. I forgot where he
Speaker 6: kind of he was getting spun down and he spun
Speaker 6: around was able to make it work. Thirteen carries for
Speaker 6: sixty four yards and two touchdowns during training camp or
Speaker 6: excuse me, during preseason right at five yards of carry.
Speaker 7: So I think there's still an opportunity for him to
Speaker 7: make some noise.
Speaker 8: Yeah, when you talk about the six round picks getting
Speaker 8: a lot of attention and talk, So I went back
Speaker 8: and looked at what they've since twenty sixteen. They took
Speaker 8: Anthony Brown in the sixth round, Savior Woods, Cedric Wilson,
Speaker 8: Donovan Wilson, So all good players go great gets all
Speaker 8: the stay around. But yeah, definitely not the hype that
Speaker 8: matches up with what Douce Fawn has. I think a
Speaker 8: lot of it too, also has to do with that
Speaker 8: he was just a great college player too, and a
Speaker 8: lot of people got to see him tear it up
Speaker 8: and so it was just air easy to see, oh, yeah,
Speaker 8: this is the way that he could be used. And again,
Speaker 8: like every every offense is different, So it's like just
Speaker 8: because he's not being used in a certain way here
Speaker 8: doesn't mean that like he doesn't have an NFL career.
Speaker 8: I just don't. I'm just going off of what I
Speaker 8: saw last year, knowing the offense is probably going to
Speaker 8: be somewhat similar. I just I don't know how they're
Speaker 8: going to use him more. I mean, so much has
Speaker 8: to be fixed in the running game before you even
Speaker 8: get to that, And a.
Speaker 1: Lot of the questions around Cavante Turpin in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two is how do you get evolved offensively? He got
Speaker 1: involved offensively this year. They took him an offseason. He
Speaker 1: had eleven receptions one hundred and ten yards and that
Speaker 1: big touchdown early in the season.
Speaker 5: So there's ways that you can get guys involved.
Speaker 1: That was rushing yards, by the way, you had twelve
Speaker 1: receptions in one hundred and twenty seven yards receiving.
Speaker 5: I think there's ways that you can get Dousfon involved.
Speaker 5: You just got to find a way to do it.
Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, we're gonna take one
Speaker 1: more phone call, wrap things up here on this edition
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Speaker 5: What's up, Bruce?
Speaker 17: Hey, guys, good show, First time call. I usually speak
Speaker 17: to a little bit on the storyline, but thanks for
Speaker 17: letting me in. I really love the way you guys
Speaker 17: have your insight. I mean, especially on the Draft show.
Speaker 17: It's just very in depth and it really helps us
Speaker 17: novice fans, you know, really understand it even more. My
Speaker 17: favorite draft would be if we get that kid from
Speaker 17: Oregon as a center number one, pick Powers and then
Speaker 17: Swift from Texas as a defensive line and number two,
Speaker 17: and then I would take Benson from Florida state running back,
Speaker 17: or even Brayln Allen from Wisconsin. That would be an
Speaker 17: awesome three round pick for me. But it's all going
Speaker 17: to depend on free agency, of course, because it looks
Speaker 17: like Tyrant's coming back for at least one more year.
Speaker 17: So hopefully we only have to replace center, which might
Speaker 17: be a little bit easier. But a lot of the
Speaker 17: draft boards show that kid going at sixteen and twenty one,
Speaker 17: so I hope we don't have to use any ammunition
Speaker 17: to go up and get him. But hopefully he'll be
Speaker 17: there because he looks like a plug and play player.
Speaker 17: But my question to you is this, because you know
Speaker 17: they talk about everything. Jerry Jones and up to Dallas
Speaker 17: are all in, ships are all in. Well, it's going
Speaker 17: to depend on a lot on Dak Prescott's contract. I
Speaker 17: love Dak. I think he's a heck of a player,
Speaker 17: but after eight years and in the playoffs, I think
Speaker 17: we need to go in a different direction. So if
Speaker 17: we're truly all in, because obviously if we do what
Speaker 17: we did this year, mccart's gone. I don't know if
Speaker 17: them are signed more than a one year contract, but
Speaker 17: they're going to blow the thing up. So if you
Speaker 17: do redo Dak's contract, whether it's just for you know,
Speaker 17: voided years so we can get some cap relief or
Speaker 17: doing a true contract, they've got to, my opinion, make
Speaker 17: it to where no trade clauses out of there. Now
Speaker 17: you can maybe guarantee him that we won't trade you
Speaker 17: this year because we're all in, but after that then
Speaker 17: they're going to blow this thing up. So my question
Speaker 17: to you would be this, if Pinnix is there at
Speaker 17: twenty four, the quarterback from is it Washington State?
Speaker 5: Washington?
Speaker 17: Ye, if he's there, would you, I mean, do they
Speaker 17: you think they value him more than they do trade lance?
Speaker 17: And you know, I don't know if you guys can
Speaker 17: answer on that, but that's what I would do. I
Speaker 17: don't think any player, even as good as Dak is,
Speaker 17: should demand a no trade claws.
Speaker 16: But that's my opinion.
Speaker 17: You know, hang up and listen. Great show, guys.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you very much, Bruce.
Speaker 1: I think the thing about Dak is you can't trade
Speaker 1: him because there is no trade claws. You you can't
Speaker 1: tag him because you can't. The only thing you can
Speaker 1: trade that he's got to say yes, which which is
Speaker 1: not going to happen.
Speaker 8: Right, But I mean if they wanted to move on,
Speaker 8: they could work something out with them. I mean, obviously
Speaker 8: that's what the Lions did with Matthew Stafford. I mean,
Speaker 8: it's not like this is It's not like it's a
Speaker 8: hard no trade like all, well, there's just well he
Speaker 8: can't be traded. No, he can be traded, but he
Speaker 8: would have to he'd have to agree upon the team
Speaker 8: that they were sending him to. And believe me, if
Speaker 8: he said, how Mary Jones.
Speaker 5: Would you have to carry there? Because he's fifty nine.
Speaker 8: Oh, it's not a great to say.
Speaker 5: I'm not doing it.
Speaker 8: I'm just telling you that it can be traded.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, where do you go?
Speaker 8: Can I just one part of that Calle? Absolutely?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I think a lot of teams, a lot of franchises.
Speaker 8: You could use the words blow this thing up if
Speaker 8: it doesn't go well this year. I just don't see
Speaker 8: any blowing up going here, because even if you move
Speaker 8: on from the head coach, I don't see that going anywhere.
Speaker 8: I don't see Ceedee Lamb going anywhere. I don't see
Speaker 8: Michael Parsons going anywhere. And so you can change the
Speaker 8: head coaches, and you can change the coaching staff, but
Speaker 8: it's going to be ultimately about the players. And the
Speaker 8: only way things would massively change here would be you'd
Speaker 8: have to go in a completely different direction at quarterback.
Speaker 8: And I don't see this team doing that. Whereas, yeah,
Speaker 8: there's a lot of great points that the caller made,
Speaker 8: and I do think there are franchises in the NFL
Speaker 8: that would be considering that right now, but those are
Speaker 8: more aggressive franchises than this one is. And again, I'm
Speaker 8: going more off since i've covered team, but I've covered
Speaker 8: team since twenty eleven, and there's been no blowing up.
Speaker 8: I mean it's literally gone from like it just rolls
Speaker 8: into the next thing. Like there was no blowing things
Speaker 8: up when they decided to go from Romo to Dak.
Speaker 8: There was no blowing things up when they went from
Speaker 8: Garrett to Mike McCarthy. And so while that could be
Speaker 8: a good thing, that might be the best thing that
Speaker 8: happens would be to blow everything up and start over new.
Speaker 8: That's I would don't see that happening with this organization
Speaker 8: at all.
Speaker 6: If you trade Dak Prescott, your window is officially closed,
Speaker 6: and it's closed for two three years until you can
Speaker 6: get a quarterback that you trust to be.
Speaker 8: Able to Oh, I don't think that at all, not
Speaker 8: in today's NFL. I do not think that at all.
Speaker 8: If you get if you got the right player, you know,
Speaker 8: I think that you've seen the brock Perties and the
Speaker 8: Jalen hurts Is of the world that if they did
Speaker 8: draft that right player at twenty four, I could see
Speaker 8: it going that way. But that's a big risk because
Speaker 8: that player would after twenty four could also have the
Speaker 8: impact of Johnny Manziel.
Speaker 1: But if we're talking about blow it up, you're not
Speaker 1: just trading Dak Prescott, you're trading CD, You're trading Micah.
Speaker 1: You're trying to get as min draphics as possible because
Speaker 1: you're trying to blow it up. That's what I'm I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Just get It's the same point you just made about
Speaker 1: the head coach. Yeah, if the head coach goes somewhere,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean Dak, CD and Micah are following. Just
Speaker 1: because your quarterback goes somewhere doesn't mean CD, Micah your
Speaker 1: head coach are following. Like it's just one specific move, right,
Speaker 1: if you decide to do it all, then it might
Speaker 1: be a window of two to three or four years.
Speaker 8: I just meant, I guess with the quarterback as a
Speaker 8: bigger that's the move that would blow things up because
Speaker 8: it would be a quarterback driven league. That's the thing
Speaker 8: that whatever organization you look at successful and not, the
Speaker 8: quarterback position is the biggest barometer of why that team
Speaker 8: did or didn't have success, you know, And and I
Speaker 8: think Dak Prescott is a great barometer, just like Tony
Speaker 8: Rummel was of the Dallas Cowboys. Very good. Can't get
Speaker 8: it done in January. That doesn't mean that they're bad.
Speaker 8: That doesn't mean that there's not a ninety nine percent
Speaker 8: of the teams in the league when one have that player.
Speaker 8: But it just they haven't been able to get it
Speaker 8: done in January. But they're obviously very good. I mean,
Speaker 8: this isn't just a Jerry Jones thing with Dak Prescott.
Speaker 8: Most people that know the NFL that are way smarter
Speaker 8: than any of us, would think the Cowboys are crazy
Speaker 8: to move on from Dak Prescott, you know. And I
Speaker 8: get that fans are frustrated and because the team hasn't
Speaker 8: had that success in January, but I don't see the
Speaker 8: team moving on because there's a way greater chance that
Speaker 8: you make it so much worse. And when I say
Speaker 8: so much worse, it's not just like oh next year,
Speaker 8: like I'm talking like for the next ten years.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 8: Than if you keep trying to find ways to put
Speaker 8: pieces around Dak and then finally, you know, get over
Speaker 8: the hump and maybe get hot in January.
Speaker 5: Well, and this is all great conversation as well.
Speaker 1: But even if let's say Dak does say yes to
Speaker 1: a deal, he does agree and he lifts the no
Speaker 1: trade clause to go somewhere, what situation is he doing
Speaker 1: that for? Because it's going to be a situation that
Speaker 1: doesn't need a quarterback, because it's going to take some
Speaker 1: draft capital. It's going to take a lot of a
Speaker 1: hole to get him out of Dallas in the first place.
Speaker 1: Plus they're gonna have to make the room from a
Speaker 1: cap standpoint too. What situation is he going to go
Speaker 1: to and say, okay, I'll maybe sign off.
Speaker 8: Okay, Well, he's got to agree to this first of all, exactly,
Speaker 8: So he isn't agreeing to this on Jerry just sitting
Speaker 8: there mentioning it to him, you know, and passing that's
Speaker 8: obviously a sit down meeting. Yeah, and you know how
Speaker 8: pissed off Dak Prescott would be if you sat down
Speaker 8: and said that, hey, we're going to trade you. So
Speaker 8: there's a lot of teams that he'd be like, oh, oh,
Speaker 8: you guys think I'm the problem. Uh okay, Yeah, I
Speaker 8: bet you. There'd be five or six teams and they
Speaker 8: would be able to get something done, and you probably
Speaker 8: see Dak Prescott play really well that next season for whatever.
Speaker 8: So I don't see that happen.
Speaker 5: It's just it's a not a chance in the world.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say a minuscule chance. I don't think
Speaker 5: there's a single option for Dak to be traded here.
Speaker 7: Dak Prescott's going to be here for a while.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Buckley, buckle, buckle up.
Speaker 1: All right, that does it for us. You're on Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: great calls as always. We might be back next week,
Speaker 1: we might not because yeah, we've.
Speaker 7: Got a lot of stuff, got a lot going on.
Speaker 6: I say, it's still gonna be in Africa and John
Speaker 6: will be at the combine, so we're gonna have to
Speaker 6: figure that one out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll fill the other seat.
Speaker 7: Maybe it's you and Josh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe I did.
Speaker 1: Uh, I did get to see talking Cowboys longtime listeners
Speaker 1: will enjoy this.
Speaker 5: I got to catch up with Rob Phillips over the
Speaker 5: weekend nice and I said, hey, just come on by.
Speaker 1: Let's see what you uh, let's see what you still
Speaker 1: got and he said anytime. So maybe maybe this will
Speaker 1: be a week where I bring Rob Phillips into the
Speaker 1: full up and see how it goes, where I can
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Speaker 5: We'll see what happens.
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