WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Tag, Not It! 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:08.680 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:10.280 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.560 Cowboys. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:20.880 This He's Talking Cowboys Straight Live from the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:24.480 World Course at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:33.600 Streets, Tinsie, Teddy Patient, touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:38.000 Nick Harris, John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:42.120 It's an off season. 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:45.760 Edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.519 live from the Star in Frisco, Texas and the s 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.040 WBC studios. Welcome in, everybody. We've got John Machoda back 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.000 in the building today. What's up, John, what's going on? 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:56.760 He'll be back to be back. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.480 It feels like we're in that loll. We've got Nick 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.120 Harris and Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman's. 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:06.600 But it's that loll between the Super Bowl and the 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:11.680 combine where there's nothing going on whatsoever. There's no Pro 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.320 Days yet, there's no free agency yet, there's really nothing. 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.640 It's the end of the coaching carousel. You get to 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.840 see some hires. We'll talk about that a little bit 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.440 later on, but yeah, Nick, whenever you look at the 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:24.040 NFL landscape, there's. 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:25.600 Not anything happening really. 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:27.480 Yeah, the only thing you can really look at from 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.720 the calendar is franchise tags are able to be applied 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.960 starting today going forward for the next two weeks. But 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:35.680 it doesn't look like this franchise is going to use 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.080 one this year. We've talked about it at nauseaum, I 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:41.720 believe so far here in the offseason and then during 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:43.200 the season as well, it just doesn't make sense to 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:43.880 put that tag. 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.320 On anybody right now going into twenty twenty four. 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.400 So I would expect the Cowboys to be quiet in 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.840 the next couple of weeks from that instance. But I 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.520 think also you could look for, you know, before free agency. 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:56.000 I think there's a couple of things you can still 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.480 look for for this team. And one it's a potential 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.960 restructuring of Dak Prescott's con track. I think that's something 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:02.920 you you can kind of look at, but that could 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.600 happen before free agency. You can talk about Ceedee Lamb's 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.760 contract too. I don't think that necessarily has as much 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.200 importance of getting done before March eleventh hits, but you know, 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:14.720 maybe trying to get a beat on the receiver market 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:17.320 before guys like Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase and those 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:18.320 guys get their deals. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.040 You know, that's certainly something to keep an eye on. 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:21.600 And I believe Mike Evans as well is going to 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.600 be up for an extension this year as well, So 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:26.440 there's a lot to still kind of keep an eye 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.079 on and keep your keep your ear out for. You know, 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:29.919 I'm kind of keeping my phone faced up just in 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.480 case for a couple of those reasons. But yeah, most definitely, 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.760 I think the focus is Combined, which you know, will 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.720 be in Indianapolis next week. I'll miss next week's show, Sorry, guys, 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.600 you know Dan, I'm just I'm. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:43.679 Not thinking I'm gonna be too Yeah, yeah, come on, 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:44.120 come on. 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:44.720 Down, John. 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.200 I think that means we're all missing next yea. 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.320 Yeah, that sounds about It's gonna be me by myself 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.320 talking about the combine. Maybe I'll just do like a 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.200 storyline ask type show where I've. 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:56.560 Got just phone calls coming in. 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:58.840 I'll learn from Nick Eatmon and there or and I'll 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.799 ask him some Maybe that's how we do it. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:02.120 I don't know. 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.320 Maybe the phone calls are you guys, it's you maybe 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.880 in Indy, John and Indy, and then we can go. 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:11.000 To Isaacah and Mount Kilimanjarro. He got in yesterday after 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.720 about eighteen hours of flying. So you see the first 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:15.760 seat that he was in so bad. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:18.639 I mean he looked like he was doing he was 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.200 halfway down in a squat, like he had zero leg room. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.560 Well, eighteen hours, it was about four hours. 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:27.880 Yeah, Well I think he went to Detroit first. So 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:29.919 you know that flight. How long is that flight? 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:31.480 Two three hours? 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:32.760 Two three Okay, Yeah, there you go. 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.080 He went Dallas, Detroit, Detroit to Amsterdam, than Amsterdam to 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.080 kill him in Jarrow And it was about eighteen to 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:39.600 twenty hours of traveling all in all. 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:40.920 And yeah, he made it in. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:42.160 Yesterday, but he did make it safely. 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.200 Better better man than me, Better man than me. 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.720 What do you think about the franchise tag? Nick talked 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.800 about it a little bit there initially, but this is 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.760 an organization that has not been shy from using the 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:57.600 franchise tag in the past. Is there any possibility on 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.520 this roster that would be a franchise tag player? 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.600 No, it would be very surprising. Yeah, I think it's 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.160 a no brainer not to use it this year. That's 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.400 why they're not doing it that anytime. I feel like 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.240 the Cowboys. There's someone in the discussion. I feel like 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.280 the Cowboys lean on and now we'll give them the tag. 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:14.560 I mean, I don't think there's any better example than 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:16.520 Tony Pollard last year. But I mean we've seen it 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:20.080 past Marcus Lawrence as whatever goes on and on. So yeah, 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:21.720 they're not shy about using it. But I mean I 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.200 look at that sixteen unrestricted free agents. I don't see 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.560 anybody that is makes any sense to use that. You know, 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.760 people ask ask me, like, oh, who do they absolutely 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.440 have to sign? Who they absolutely have to bring back? 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:35.400 Like absolutely nobody. I mean, now, there's definitely people that 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.480 you want to bring back. There's there's some key pieces 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.320 there that would really help your roster, but there is 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:42.840 no in years past where you would have basically all 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.160 the guys that are right over your shoulder right now, Mike, 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.600 you know, tray Von Diggs, C d Lamb, Dak you know, 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.520 there's there's nobody like that that you have to you 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.160 have to get that done. I mean, I guess if 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.800 Tony Pollard was coming off like a seventeen hundred yard 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.280 season or something like that, of course, then that would 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.640 be somebody that you'd factor in. But but that not 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.560 being the case. I mean, I just think it's a 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.200 no brainer that they wouldn't do anything with the tag. 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.520 Yeah, there's just nobody on that list that you want 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.320 to pay market value for right now. I'd be shocked. 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.320 I think Tony Pollard could have been an idea before 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.600 the season started. Maybe he gets tagged again going in 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.760 twenty twenty four, but I think with the production that 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:22.919 you got from him in twenty twenty three, it doesn't 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:24.840 make sense to pay him that value right now. 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:26.520 I mean, I'm thinking it would have to have been 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.960 excuse me, not even regular season. Yeah, they would have 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.839 had to probably make the NFC Championship Game or Super Bowl, 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:35.640 and he would have had to be a big part 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:35.840 of it. 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.320 Where you're just like, whoa the check. 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.680 Yeah, whoa, they've been saving this thing up for the playoffs. 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.200 Where did this come from? And he's got like a 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.080 buck fifty against Green Bay and then and then and 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.400 then they play San Francisco and he's got like one 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.560 hundred and seventy five yards or somewhere. You're just like, well, 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.400 we can't even mess around. This is such a big 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.760 part of this team. But I've always said that covering 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.480 this team thirteen years now, I've always going at this 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.160 time in the off season, I'm like, well, if the 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.280 season ended different, you can make a case for anybody, 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.400 because if it gets you finally to that Super Bowl, yeah, 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:04.680 get wild, I mean and. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.039 I mean, I mean, there's they're going to keep everybody 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:08.159 around that if you're. 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:09.839 Balling in the playoffs and you've got this Cowboys team 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:11.320 to a super Bowl, I can make arguments for a 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.039 lot of guys. But like I said, I've been covering 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:14.680 team for thirteen years. That hasn't happened. So a lot 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.800 of these decisions to me are relatively easy. 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:20.080 Has hasn't happened. They have applied the tag every year 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.280 since twenty eighteen. It was de Marcus Lawrence back to 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.520 back years. Then of course everybody remembers Dak Prescott in 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.760 back to back years twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.600 Then it was Dalton Schultzen twenty two, Tony Pollard in 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.800 twenty three. So it'd be the first time since twenty 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.160 seventeen the Dallas has not applied the tag. I'm with you, guys, 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:40.560 I don't think there's a guy on the roster, And yeah, 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.920 I don't. I just don't think there's anywhere who's the 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.920 best chance there. Maybe I was thinking maybe a specialists, 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.000 like like a Trent Sig. Yeah, like something weird like 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.360 that matter. Trent Sig gets the friend, you get the 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:53.159 franchise tag On. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.400 Brian Anger, I mean, I don't know what his contract situation. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.159 He's not he's not up to be a free agent. 0:06:58.320 --> 0:06:59.760 I mean, I only I mean, who are the top 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:03.400 guy is in there? It's it's Tyron Smith, It's Tony Pollard, 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:07.840 It's Stephan Gilmore, it's Beyottish and Laren's Arms Gilmore. 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.240 I don't think you're paying market value for Gilmore, but 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:13.880 you look at what he brought to this team last year. 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.000 I'm just trying to look for the best case, like 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:17.720 who has the ten percent change? 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.280 Well, remember it isn't it the combination of the top 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:24.360 five core player or the average kind of money. 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.920 It would be like Tyron, Tyron Smith and be Oddish year. 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.400 I don't think you're giving either of those guys. 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:31.040 Top five money. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.560 So Steph On Gilmore would be in in in this. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:39.160 In that conversation for me five years ago, team doesn't 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.640 have darn Bland, Trayvon DIDs is coming off that knee injury. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.360 Then I'm like, that's a because I'm I think you 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.640 need three, Like it's no more to starting corners, you 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.400 need three starting corners. But so I want Gilmore back, 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.920 There's no question about that. And it sounds like from 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:56.480 everything he said during the Super Bowl week that he 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.360 wants to be back. So I agree with you. I 0:07:58.440 --> 0:07:59.840 wanted to bring him back. I just didn't win one 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:01.280 to give that franchise tag number. 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:02.960 Uh do Armstrong? 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.400 No, I don't think you're paying top that to money. 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.120 Wouldn't be that's that's you're talking. Gosh, is that what 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:10.120 Joey Bosa money? 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.200 If it's if it's top five, we see what it 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.400 would look like for they do something, do something like that. Honestly, 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.160 my biggest takeaway on that is would be Michael must 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:19.960 be playing a lot of linebacker next year. That must 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.240 be part of their plan because when you have Mike 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.640 uh and DeMarcus Lawrence, I don't know how you would 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.560 be trying to spend, like even if you take the 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.600 tag out of it. Just in free agency with Dorrance, 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.040 I mean their best two edge rushers and preg So 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.920 it would be Dorance and Dante Fowler. I honestly would 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:37.520 be surprised if one of them, if not both, ends 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.800 up in Washington with Dan Quinn. I would like to 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:44.440 head one of them back, you know, but it would 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.600 have to be That's what I like when I look 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.000 at all those I know you've written about it too, 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:51.120 Like those all those unrestricted free agents, Like there's really 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.160 almost nobody on there unless they're willing to come for 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.240 somewhat of a team friendly deal. There's nobody that you're 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.199 you're looking at. You're just like, well, you might have 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:58.959 to overpay a little bit to keep that guy. It's like, no, 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:00.679 I mean, it's gonna suck if you if you lose 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:02.559 some of those guys, but you don't. You shouldn't be 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:03.400 overpaying for any of them. 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.000 I really think Larrance would be about a twenty million hit. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.400 Yeah, that's not gonna happen, Absolutely not. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:08.680 Sorry. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.679 I think I think the only one that was a 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.000 home run from the day the season ended is Trent Sig. 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.439 You got to bring him back, but long snap five 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.920 point six, five point six for Trent's sake on a 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:20.959 franchise tag yep. 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:22.720 I just I don't think they'll tag him like they don't. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:23.760 They don't necessarily need to. 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.000 And then as time went on, Gilmour makes more sense 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.439 with what the comment said he made in Super Bowl week. So, 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:33.400 I mean, other than those two guys, you look at Gosh, 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:35.920 it's it's it's interesting. You look at Tyron Smith, you 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.040 look at Tyler be Oddish, and you wonder, you know, 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.640 how does the team gonna approach those two guys? How 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:42.880 do they pair that with the draft class that's coming 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:44.920 up this year, especially a deep offensive line class in 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:45.520 the first round. 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.400 But the thing is, we've talked about this on the 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.320 Draft Show. Let's say they go in on. 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.160 Tyron Smith and they let Tyler be Ottish walk, So 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.920 they're banking on getting that center in the first round. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:58.120 It doesn't fall to them. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.439 They all get there's a run before two twenty four 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:02.800 and that center gets taken off the board. Then are 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.480 they rolling with brock Hoffin or TJ. Bassett starting center, 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.640 which you know they had their moments last year at times, 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:09.839 but how comfortable are they with that? And then on 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:13.960 the flip side, they pay Beiottish let Tyron Smith walk, 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:15.839 So they're hoping to find that tackle to be able 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.240 to put it left tackle Okay, you follow the twenty four, 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:19.800 that guy that you like at twenty four is not 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.640 there and you kind of have to reach a little bit. 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.480 So I wonder where they go with that direction. How 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.880 do they kind of play with that, and is there 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.000 an option where both come back and they still draft. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:30.319 An offensive line in the first round. I think there's 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.880 a lot of those situations I could play out. 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:33.240 Yeah. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.640 I just I'm looking through these numbers too, and some 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.280 of the tag numbers are just unreal. I mean, Gilmour 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.959 would be eighteen, Tyler Biottish would be nineteen, along with 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:45.520 Tyron Smith that would also be nineteen. 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:46.440 The center is nineteen. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.720 Wow, Well, I think it's just offensive line, okay, may 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:53.080 I mean that's what it has here. That's unofficial. Don't 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.280 take my word for it. This is off of a 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.959 specific website that I don't necessarily think pays money to 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.400 the Cowboys, So I don't want to necessarily put. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:00.959 Their name out there. 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.439 But it's a good website, it's yeah, And so I 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:09.240 think there's there's ways that you can build this roster 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:10.320 without the franchise tag. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.439 And by ways, I mean that's probably the only way. 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.280 I mean, it would be honestly think it's kind of 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.320 been shocking. You just go down the list of forget 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.000 who's a free agent right now, you just go down 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:22.120 the list of this Dallas Cowboys team, and let's say 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.320 every single person on the roster was a free agent. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.199 There's crobaently five or six guys that you put the 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.599 tag on. Maybe I'm off, but yeah, I mean, you 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.720 wouldn't You wouldn't let Trayvon Diggs go. You wouldn't let 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.079 John Bland go, you wouldn't let Micah go. And I 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.000 think I'm almost done in defense. I was gonna start, 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.480 oh oh yeah, and then and then on offense, because 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.240 I don't think you're given twenty million to DeMarcus Lawrence. 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:52.640 So so then on offense Cede Lamb, Dak Prescott, Tyler Smith, 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.920 Tyler Smith or Zach Martin. So I mean, even with that, 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:55.880 that's we're at seven. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:56.200 Yeah. 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.040 Yeah, Brandon Aubrey. 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:02.640 Brandon Aubrey Canlan. Also, by the way, I usually sit 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:06.240 over there, I'm a very distractable player or are you. 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:07.320 Watching TV over here? 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:08.800 I mean when you look at that all, it's like 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.679 very easy to be like, but I keep like looking 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:11.880 over them, like there's a lot going on over there. 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:13.880 I'm very wait till you, like if you sat in 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:15.400 on a draft show, which by the way, we've got 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.160 an open chair, so if you want to stick around, 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.600 you can't. But they'll put up highlights of these players 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.320 like film highlights, and all of us being film buffs, we'll. 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:24.120 Just start watching. 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.079 We'll start watching, like the hands placements and everything. This 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:28.520 new studio is phenomenal. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:29.880 It's no correcting, it really is. 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.400 But I mean, you guys obviously are in the press 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:36.800 box after games, and there's some people and I used 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:38.600 to think I was one of these people. I'm not anymore. 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.280 But that can just work in the main area where 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.520 everybody's at, and then there's other people that work back 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.480 by the tables. This is after the game's over. I've 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.679 become a work back by the tables because I'm so 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.599 easily distracted by everything that's being talked about after And 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:52.400 just imagine after a big winn or a big loss, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.760 how like loud. It can get in that press box 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.440 with people coming back from the locker room talking about 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.679 different things they heard Jerry said this or whatever. You 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.439 weren't buy it, So now you're trying to listen in 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:02.800 what did he say? Hold on, am I gonna have 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:03.720 to write this differently? 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:04.120 Yeah? 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.040 So it's like I'm very I don't know, older, I 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:07.280 get it more distract while I am. 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:08.160 But now there's a lot. 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.240 Going on back there, a lot of cakeball parties and yeah, 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:11.640 cake ball parties of course. 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:12.760 We love the cakeballs. 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:14.280 Yeah, at and Delicious. 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.000 Any other news and notes here, Nick before we take 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:18.520 our first. 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.559 Yeah, that's about it. You know, you look at this 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.360 little role in the off season, like you said, you know, 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.199 this is a this is a time where I think, 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.280 you know, players are recharging. I know a couple of 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.199 guys have been still in the facility, Marviy and overshow 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.400 and I've seen quite a bit still rehabbing and getting 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.040 going with that John Stevens Junior as well, the undrafted 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:35.640 tied end that kind of popped during camps. 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:37.800 So you know, rehabbing still definitely going on. 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:40.800 I haven't seen Trayvon Diggs around, but that doesn't necessarily 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.160 mean that he's not he's not rehabbing, you know, still 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:44.600 doing his his work as well. 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:46.480 So we'll just kind of see as time goes on. 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:48.599 But yeah, I think the big thing we're looking for 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:50.960 coming out of this week could be combined next week 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:52.920 and then we start looking forward to free agency. 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:53.760 That's gonna be a fun week. 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.040 There you go, But we've still got Cowboys fans that 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.120 have things on their mind. 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Chris Beam in the back. 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.800 It's time to talk to Cowboys Nation. 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.520 Eight eight eight, eight five five two two nine seven 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.560 is the phone line, and then eight one seven two 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:59.600 nine zero three two nine eight if you want to 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.960 does a text message, we'll answer that as well. Nick, 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:04.600 If you had the guess, what is the number one 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.679 thing that's on the mind of Cowboys fans right now? 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.399 Is there like an overwhelmings I No, I mean not, 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:11.200 I'm just guessing. 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.320 No, yeah, just guessing, just throwing a guess out there. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:17.200 Ah, what big move will they make in free agency? 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:17.720 If any? 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:19.960 I think that's probably the biggest thing. You know, Jerry 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.639 talks about being all in fans. You know, some are not, 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.960 a lot are not buying in. Some are you know, 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.520 maybe a little bit more optimistic than in year's past. 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.359 So I think everyone's trying to see what that looks like. 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:36.280 I would that's a good one. If I'm going off 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.119 of my Twitter mentions, And maybe this has to do 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.720 with content that I put out, but I would say 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:45.120 for me, my clear number one it's not even debatable, 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.440 is does Michael Parsons need to be doing all these podcasts. 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:49.920 Is he need to do at the All Star Game? 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:51.240 Does he need to be doing this? Does he need 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.520 to be doing that? Michael Parsons off season and things 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.520 he does away from the facility are very high on. 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.399 You know, people trying to get his autograph at the 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:00.840 airport and things like that. 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:03.400 So he's actually trying to enter the Olympics. 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.960 You can see because he just won the MVP in 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:07.840 the Celebrity All Star Game and then he was tweeting 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:09.679 out last night. He's trying to join a men's softball 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:11.560 league in Frisco. So yeah, he's trying to get all 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:12.880 the sports done this offseason game. 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:14.840 Hey, Michael, we've got an open spot on our team. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:16.200 If you want to join, you can come on. 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:18.479 Yeah, we were runners up in our league last year. 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.280 We almost wanted called the recess Rejects. We could totally 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.080 make it happen. We wear the ugliest uniforms. 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:25.480 By the way, if. 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:26.800 Michael doesn't jump on, let me know, I'll let you 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:27.880 know some good second base. 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:29.360 All right, I might be missing a couple of games. 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:30.879 I've got some kiddos on the way, so we'll make 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:31.119 it work. 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:32.320 Yeah you got three extra. 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.400 Yeah, yeah, exactly all right, We've got Eric in North 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:36.760 Carolina on the line. 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.040 Eric, what's on your mind? You're on Talking Cowboys. 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:41.760 Hey, guys, Harry all today doing great? 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:43.760 How are you all doing well. 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:48.000 I was just reading an article about from Patrick Walker 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:53.000 that said that Jimmy Johnson is on Jerry Jones advisory board, 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.080 and I was just wondering if you guys could talk 0:18:56.119 --> 0:19:00.960 about that, and and just the second thing is, I 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:06.560 was wondering if y'all could give me your top five linebackers, 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.879 like on your stack. My top one is Tommy Ikenberg 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:13.040 And I'll just hang up and listen. 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:14.560 Awesome. 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:17.360 Appreciate you, Eric, Two good questions. Yeah, you can read 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.760 that article on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Jimmy Johnson and 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:23.280 the Cowboys are leaning hard into the makeup portion of 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:25.720 their relationship as of late. That's the opening line from 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:32.160 Patrick Walker. His quote, specifically on WQAM five sixty am 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:35.879 in Miami was since the ring of honor, I'm on 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:40.400 Jerry Jones's board advisory board now, possibly with a bit 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:45.119 of jest regarding having an actual title, so there might 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.479 not be an actual advisory. 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:48.119 Board for Jerry Jones. 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:51.480 But that's what's Jimmy saying here is he's been in 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.600 the back pocket of Jerry, and he's been having his 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:56.440 own conversations since that day. 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.560 I think that's great to see from a Cowboys fan perspective, 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:01.320 you know, to see those two being able to not 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.320 only come together for the Ring of Honor this past year, 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:04.760 but now being able to kind of work together in 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.359 some ways. And you know, Jerry reaching out to Jimmy 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:08.840 for advice. But I don't put a whole lot of 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:10.600 stock into it as far as the big picture stuff. 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.600 I don't either. It does sound good just because the 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.960 last time those two worked together, it led to building 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.600 a dynasty, and that's what every Cowboys fan wants this 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:21.320 team to get back to, So of course you like 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.119 hearing that. I find it just interesting just because of 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:28.760 the fact of that never should have the communication, never 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:30.280 should have stoped between the two of them, you know, 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:35.000 And I think there's some pettiness probably there on both sides. 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:36.879 I think both are a little bit to blame for that. 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.840 So however it came to to where Jerry finally put 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:42.320 them in the Ring of Honor, I think that that's 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.520 a good move that helped them kind of maybe bury 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:48.600 the hatchet and kind of get back on talking terms. 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.119 But I think it's a good thing because Jimmy is 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:52.840 a guy that a lot of people around the NFL 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.320 lean on that will go down and visit him in 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.160 the keys and stuff like that. I know over those 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:01.080 years of the Dynasty years in New England, Bill Belichick 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:02.960 was doing that a lot. So yeah, I think it's 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.040 a I think it's a good thing, but I don't 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.040 I don't look at it as necessarily like, oh, well, 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:09.760 now now they're going to return to the nineties glory. 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.080 Yeah, what did you think about it? Second part of 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:13.880 the question, stack and some linebackers. 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.920 Yeah, so linebackers you talked about on the draft blog 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:18.520 a couple of weeks ago in Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.119 potential double dip positions, and I think linebacker is certainly 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.360 one that you know could happen if the Cowboys maybe 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:24.960 even pick up an extra pick here in the draft. 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.840 It's it's very necessary to get one in the early rounds. 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.200 He's sort of top five that I have a number 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.520 one Edrian Cooper out of Texas A and m number 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:35.200 two Peyton Wilson out of North Carolina State. Three Jeremiah 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:37.639 Trotter junior out of Clemson, four Cedric Gray out of 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:42.400 North Carolina, and then five. Yeah, your boy Ikenberg there, Eric, Yeah, 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:44.800 I think he's He's definitely got some run stoppability. He's 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:46.800 got that physicality that I think this team would need. 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.359 I think there's two types of linebackers that you're kind 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:53.880 of seeing in this draft. You got the athletic guys 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:55.560 that can cover all around the field, and then you 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:57.840 got some of the bigger set guys who maybe more 0:21:57.880 --> 0:21:59.360 downhill guys that will stop the run. 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:01.560 You look at second levels. 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:03.720 Like Baltimore, you look at second levels like Kansas City, 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.280 and you wonder how you can kind of replicate those 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:08.920 I think there's a way to go in either of 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.320 those directions with guys in this draft if they if 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:13.159 they feel like they can pop on one in the 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:14.960 second or third rounds. I think any of those five 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:16.640 guys would be interesting directions to take. 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:18.800 I've got Cooper from A and M. 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:22.119 Trotter from Clemson, Peyton Wilson from ENCI State, I like 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:25.399 Junior Colson from Michigan. Ayah, well, you talk about a 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:28.440 big downhill defender. Six with three two forty seven, I 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:30.080 mean these are guys that are I mean, that is 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:33.600 a guy who's stuffed the run. And I think Ikenberg's 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:35.639 in there too. He's just outside my top five. He's 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:37.879 at number six right now. So there's a lot of 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:41.280 good players there. Are you considering Dallas Turner from Alabama 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:43.720 and Ed Rusher? Yes, I am too, Okay, So I 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:45.280 just want to make sure we're on the same page. 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:48.240 Chris Braswell's in there too, both out out of Alabama, 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:50.760 both kind of played that three four outside linebackers. Sort 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:54.400 of feel I'm I'm considering them ed rushers and I'm 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:57.800 staying more true to linebacker here with Cooper, Trotter, Wilson 0:22:58.119 --> 0:22:58.600 and Colson. 0:22:58.640 --> 0:22:59.800 Yeah, mainly off the ball guys. 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:02.679 Swarre draft expert at the Athletic Is is Dane Brugler, 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.440 whoever used to work on the Draft show here does 0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:07.239 a great job. I lean on him for a lot 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:08.800 of the draft stuff because I just, I mean, that's 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.119 his that's his job three sixty five, you know. And 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:14.840 so I recently put together like twenty players to know 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:16.679 for the Cowboys in the first round, and what kind 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:19.239 of stood out to me, I used Dane's top one 0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:21.879 hundred draft board is kind of a template for it, 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:24.320 and it was interesting how he didn't have he doesn't 0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:27.480 have a linebacker in the top thirty eight players out 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:29.919 of his top one, right, yeah, and he has Colson 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.160 at thirty nine. This is out of his top one hundred, 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:33.160 just linebackers. 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:35.040 These are these are his Colson is number one. 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:37.280 He does wow, And so these are thought I was 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:39.880 high having him as four out of his top one hundred. 0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:41.760 He has five linebackers, so it lines up with the 0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:45.080 caller asking the question, and so he has he has 0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:48.600 Colson at thirty nine, Eddrian Cooper at forty two, Iikenberg 0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:51.960 at seventy four, Peyton Wilson at seventy seven, and Trotter 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.000 at ninety nine. And that kind of surprised me a 0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.400 little bit, just as a Florida State fan, because I've 0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:59.160 seen Trotter a lot with Clemson and I just think 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:01.600 he's phenomenal. I think if you if like it lined up, 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.840 like let's say that draft board went exactly like the 0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:07.320 draft goes, if you're able to get Trotter at ninety nine, 0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:09.720 I just think that would be that's yeah, great, great. 0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:10.440 Would be beautiful. 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.440 That's better than you pick Nashwan, right, and that means 0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:16.080 you're pick yeah, and that means you're picking something significant 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:18.880 of value in the first two rounds to pass over 0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:19.720 a linebacker. 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:23.200 That means you're getting probably an offensive lineman, maybe two. 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.000 Maybe you're getting a big defensive tackle, like a sweat 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:27.880 or something out of Texas in the second round. 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:29.520 I would love that pairing. 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:31.239 You get an offensive lineman in the first, you get 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:33.200 a defensive tackle in the second, get a linebacker in 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.320 the third, and it's Jeremiah Trotter, sign me up. 0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:38.240 You know what impacts this a lot, though, is you know, 0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:40.720 when we go to the combine next week, it's it's 0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:42.600 not I mean, it's obviously about the draft, but it's 0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:44.240 a lot about free agency too. You know, going on 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:46.359 Jerry's bus, there's a lot I mean, the agents are 0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:48.920 there the whole time, so there's a lot of unofficial 0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:51.480 talking about free agency things like that. Trades can you know, 0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:55.040 discussions can happen and stuff like that. And it's like 0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:58.680 if the draft was next week, like I'm thinking that 0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:02.720 the Cowboys are taking a linebacker second round, and they might, 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:06.720 but if they make a trade between now and the draft, 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.160 or do they sign something in free agency? Because Mike 0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.119 Zimmer likes this linebacker. They want to bring in a 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.040 veteran and you pair that with what they have with 0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:16.400 Clark and Overshown. I mean, maybe they don't draft one, 0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:19.040 you know, but as we see here today, like ripping 0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:20.840 off those five names, like, you'd think that there's a 0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:22.640 decent chance of the Cowboys draft one of those players. 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:25.040 Because that's such a major position. It has to be addressed, 0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:26.360 no doubt, no doubt. 0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:28.720 I think there's ways that you can address those positions, 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:30.760 but it's got to be linebacker. You got to find 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:33.960 something there at some point this offseason. Since they haven't 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:37.280 done anything yet, we're looking straight at the looking straight 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:37.840 at the draft. 0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:40.840 Currently. All right, let's go to Nebby in Maryland. What's 0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:41.720 going on? Nebby? 0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.280 Hey, guys, It's been a long time since I've been 0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:49.879 on this show, so I just got to say, it 0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:53.480 feels great to be back on Talking Cowboys. 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.160 Yeah, Nebi, thanks for calling in. You've always been great. 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:02.000 Thank you so much. That means a lot coming from you. Listen, 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.640 I have a comment, I have a comment, and then 0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:10.160 I have a question. My comment is I just want 0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:17.040 to thank Will McClay for being so loyal to the 0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:23.200 Dallas Cowboys, and I really hope that we are able 0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:28.800 to win a Super Bowl championship before he leaves this 0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:37.440 organization to become a general manager somewhere else. And my 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:44.240 question is do you see Deduced fun having a role 0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:53.479 on on the Dallas Cowboys next year? Because I am 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:58.120 really high on him and I really think he can 0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:02.600 help us out. I take care, thank you so much 0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:05.920 for being patient with me, and have a great week. 0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.280 Oh bye, Great job, Nevy, great job man. 0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:14.399 The first thing about Will McClay, no doubt, I'm in 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:17.399 all agreeance with him, and hopefully they do get it 0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:19.200 done because he's done a great job of building this 0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.560 roster drafting. That's why it is exciting to talk about 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.000 the draft in this building. There were other organizations around 0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:26.960 the NFL where you look at the draft and you say, 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:27.720 that's just. 0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.280 Another date on the calendar. It could work out, it 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:31.840 could not. Here. 0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:34.920 You've really built some trust with this front office in 0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.280 the way that they've they've angled towards the draft. 0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:40.080 That's what makes things exciting moving forward. And Will mcclay's 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:40.879 the head of all that. 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.040 And the Deuce Fawn thing is interesting because I think 0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:49.680 that He's obviously a great story and a lot of 0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.920 people love that about it, But I just thought that 0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.080 there'd be We just saw a little glimpses where they 0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:57.200 were able to get them involved last year, and I 0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.399 just thought more of that would be utilized as a 0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.560 season when I and there was less of it sure, 0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.640 And so kind of like going with the linebacker thing, 0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:09.119 it's one of those deals where I don't know. I 0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:11.120 kind of feel like if we're going in the draft 0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:15.320 right now, I mean, if you don't have Tony Poward, 0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:17.280 you have to draft a running back relatively early. I'm 0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.119 not talking about first round, but I would think somewhere 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:23.000 maybe as early as the second or third. But I 0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.119 just I don't know that duce Vaughan is going to 0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:26.800 be the answer there where you look at him as 0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.120 like he's getting fifteen carries a game. I just don't 0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:32.000 know that that not with what I saw from the 0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:33.800 offense last year, which is obviously going to be a 0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:35.560 similar offense to what we see next year. 0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:36.840 So yeah, I think the. 0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.000 Ceiling there obviously is a complimentary back that does a 0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:41.520 lot in the receiving game, and potentially, you know, if 0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.320 there's one day that the team decides to move on 0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.560 from Turp and then you know you have a return 0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.800 threat and do spawn there. But yeah, his opportunities, and 0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:50.520 this was something I kind of cracked down after the 0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:53.600 season with him specifically, is whenever his opportunities came, they 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:57.080 came in times where the second team offensive line was in. 0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.640 He wasn't really able to get many running wanes. Not 0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:01.560 to say he's not to take any fault, but gosh, 0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:03.560 there were some opportunities. You look at half of his 0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:05.640 carries and I don't think any of us are getting 0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.600 any yards on those carries. So I would like to 0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:12.160 see him get that one more big shot during training 0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.640 camp and preseason next year. See what he does with that, 0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.840 see if he's improved going into year two. And if 0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:19.640 he has, then you know there's an opportunity for him 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.600 to be on this on this team going into year two. 0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:23.760 But I think training camp and preseason is going to 0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:24.520 be really big for him. 0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:28.080 I didn't event this past weekend for the Cowboys club 0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.520 where we were talking about the season recap and we had. 0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:34.120 It on that but well, we were talking about the. 0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.120 Season as a whole, and we had a couple questions 0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:40.640 over Duce Fawn and here's another one from Neby. When's 0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.360 the last time we're talking about a six round player 0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.560 in the middle of March or I guess February is 0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.760 still about wanting to see more of the six round player. 0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:53.440 The expectations are high for duce Fawn, but you got 0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.440 to remember who he was as a draft pick. 0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:58.360 He was a late day three draft pick and working 0:29:58.440 --> 0:29:59.080 into the fold. 0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.840 One of the compar Garrison's I had with him during 0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:05.920 draft time, and it wasn't an uncommon comparison, it's darren Sproles. 0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.080 If you look at darren Sproles and what he did 0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:08.400 in his. 0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:12.080 First season he was with the San Diego Chargers fifteen games, 0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.640 he had eight carries for fifty yards, did not have 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.680 a touchdown, and then he had three receptions for ten yards, 0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:21.720 so total yardage wise, he had what is that sixty 0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:26.080 yards total his entire rookie season. Then he missed the 0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:28.200 entire second season. 0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:28.960 With an ankle injury. 0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:31.720 So through the first two years of the league, darren 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:35.240 Sproles had nothing go his way, and honestly, he didn't 0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:39.160 end up really doing much with San Diego. They moved 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.440 on from him in twenty eleven. He stayed five years 0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.120 with San Diego, had a decent career with the Chargers. 0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:46.280 Then he moved on to New Orleans. But then it 0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.360 was when he got to Philly in twenty fourteen where 0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.680 things really hit the ground running. Deuce Vaughn's got to 0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.560 figure out a way to make it in the NFL. 0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:56.600 And I'm not saying he's not trying to bank away. 0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:01.040 He's as involved as an individual, he's as motivated as 0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:01.640 an individual. 0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:03.960 He has got the right mindset to be in the NFL. 0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.680 But he's got to find a way to adjust to 0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:08.600 the pace of play, and teams are going to have 0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:10.920 to adjust into how they figure out how to use 0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.880 douce Vawn. And he had twenty three carries forty yards 0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:17.760 over seven games. He had seven receptions for forty yards, 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.440 so he actually had eighty yards of production compared to 0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:24.080 sixty for Darren Sprolls. I'm not giving up on duce 0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:26.520 Fawn just yet, but at the same time, you've got 0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.080 to look at where he is as a player. He's 0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:29.360 got a long way to go, and I think the 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:30.760 team has a long way to go to find a 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:31.360 way to use him. 0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.240 He had a couple of fun moments in preseason, he 0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:35.600 really did had great moments. That touchdown I'm looking at 0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:37.440 right here from the Seattle game. I forgot where he 0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.200 kind of he was getting spun down and he spun 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.160 around was able to make it work. Thirteen carries for 0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.680 sixty four yards and two touchdowns during training camp or 0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.920 excuse me, during preseason right at five yards of carry. 0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.320 So I think there's still an opportunity for him to 0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:50.840 make some noise. 0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.160 Yeah, when you talk about the six round picks getting 0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:55.360 a lot of attention and talk, So I went back 0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:58.400 and looked at what they've since twenty sixteen. They took 0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:02.680 Anthony Brown in the sixth round, Savior Woods, Cedric Wilson, 0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.280 Donovan Wilson, So all good players go great gets all 0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:08.280 the stay around. But yeah, definitely not the hype that 0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:10.640 matches up with what Douce Fawn has. I think a 0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:11.960 lot of it too, also has to do with that 0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:14.280 he was just a great college player too, and a 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.120 lot of people got to see him tear it up 0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.680 and so it was just air easy to see, oh, yeah, 0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.640 this is the way that he could be used. And again, 0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.920 like every every offense is different, So it's like just 0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.280 because he's not being used in a certain way here 0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.520 doesn't mean that like he doesn't have an NFL career. 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:31.880 I just don't. I'm just going off of what I 0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.120 saw last year, knowing the offense is probably going to 0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:37.520 be somewhat similar. I just I don't know how they're 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:41.400 going to use him more. I mean, so much has 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.120 to be fixed in the running game before you even 0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:44.040 get to that, And a. 0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.520 Lot of the questions around Cavante Turpin in twenty twenty 0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:49.560 two is how do you get evolved offensively? He got 0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.160 involved offensively this year. They took him an offseason. He 0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.200 had eleven receptions one hundred and ten yards and that 0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.920 big touchdown early in the season. 0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:00.480 So there's ways that you can get guys involved. 0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.360 That was rushing yards, by the way, you had twelve 0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:06.560 receptions in one hundred and twenty seven yards receiving. 0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.120 I think there's ways that you can get Dousfon involved. 0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:11.360 You just got to find a way to do it. 0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:13.560 All right, when we come back, we're gonna take one 0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:15.840 more phone call, wrap things up here on this edition 0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.560 of Talking Cowboys and get you set for the week ahead, 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.240 and then of course NFL Combine week next week. 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:22.480 When we come back right after this. 0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:27.800 They say champions are remembered, but legends are never forgotten. 0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:31.200 United Agon Turf offers a winning lineup of John Deere 0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.840 equipment built to tackle any challenge on and off the field. 0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:40.000 Legendary John Deere Tractors, combines residential mowers, commercial mowers, compact 0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:43.600 construction equipment, hater utility vehicles, and a full line of 0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:47.440 golf and sports turf equipment. 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All right, We're gonna 0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.800 make it happen by going down to the great City 0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:54.400 of Houston, HTx, where Bruce is doing great work down there. 0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:55.080 What's up, Bruce? 0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:59.680 Hey, guys, good show, First time call. I usually speak 0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:03.200 to a little bit on the storyline, but thanks for 0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.560 letting me in. I really love the way you guys 0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:09.439 have your insight. I mean, especially on the Draft show. 0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:11.839 It's just very in depth and it really helps us 0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:16.719 novice fans, you know, really understand it even more. My 0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:20.439 favorite draft would be if we get that kid from 0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.600 Oregon as a center number one, pick Powers and then 0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.480 Swift from Texas as a defensive line and number two, 0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:32.120 and then I would take Benson from Florida state running back, 0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:36.040 or even Brayln Allen from Wisconsin. That would be an 0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:39.319 awesome three round pick for me. But it's all going 0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:42.600 to depend on free agency, of course, because it looks 0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.080 like Tyrant's coming back for at least one more year. 0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:48.719 So hopefully we only have to replace center, which might 0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.120 be a little bit easier. But a lot of the 0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.759 draft boards show that kid going at sixteen and twenty one, 0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.440 so I hope we don't have to use any ammunition 0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:00.640 to go up and get him. But hopefully he'll be 0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:03.440 there because he looks like a plug and play player. 0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:07.200 But my question to you is this, because you know 0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.280 they talk about everything. Jerry Jones and up to Dallas 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:13.759 are all in, ships are all in. Well, it's going 0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:18.040 to depend on a lot on Dak Prescott's contract. I 0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:20.680 love Dak. I think he's a heck of a player, 0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:25.040 but after eight years and in the playoffs, I think 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:26.759 we need to go in a different direction. So if 0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:31.120 we're truly all in, because obviously if we do what 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:34.160 we did this year, mccart's gone. I don't know if 0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.680 them are signed more than a one year contract, but 0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.719 they're going to blow the thing up. So if you 0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:45.200 do redo Dak's contract, whether it's just for you know, 0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:47.840 voided years so we can get some cap relief or 0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:52.759 doing a true contract, they've got to, my opinion, make 0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:56.600 it to where no trade clauses out of there. Now 0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:58.640 you can maybe guarantee him that we won't trade you 0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:02.359 this year because we're all in, but after that then 0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.520 they're going to blow this thing up. So my question 0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.960 to you would be this, if Pinnix is there at 0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:11.200 twenty four, the quarterback from is it Washington State? 0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:12.000 Washington? 0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:15.160 Ye, if he's there, would you, I mean, do they 0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:18.040 you think they value him more than they do trade lance? 0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:19.600 And you know, I don't know if you guys can 0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.040 answer on that, but that's what I would do. I 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:25.160 don't think any player, even as good as Dak is, 0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.400 should demand a no trade claws. 0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:29.280 But that's my opinion. 0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:31.040 You know, hang up and listen. Great show, guys. 0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:32.960 I appreciate you very much, Bruce. 0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.359 I think the thing about Dak is you can't trade 0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.440 him because there is no trade claws. You you can't 0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:44.560 tag him because you can't. The only thing you can 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:48.040 trade that he's got to say yes, which which is 0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:48.960 not going to happen. 0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.080 Right, But I mean if they wanted to move on, 0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:53.160 they could work something out with them. I mean, obviously 0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:55.880 that's what the Lions did with Matthew Stafford. I mean, 0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:57.840 it's not like this is It's not like it's a 0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.080 hard no trade like all, well, there's just well he 0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:01.880 can't be traded. No, he can be traded, but he 0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.759 would have to he'd have to agree upon the team 0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:06.279 that they were sending him to. And believe me, if 0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:07.520 he said, how Mary Jones. 0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:09.759 Would you have to carry there? Because he's fifty nine. 0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:11.120 Oh, it's not a great to say. 0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:11.960 I'm not doing it. 0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:13.920 I'm just telling you that it can be traded. 0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.160 But yeah, yeah, where do you go? 0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.239 Can I just one part of that Calle? Absolutely? 0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:20.600 Yeah. 0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:24.560 I think a lot of teams, a lot of franchises. 0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:26.359 You could use the words blow this thing up if 0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:28.879 it doesn't go well this year. I just don't see 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:31.279 any blowing up going here, because even if you move 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:33.880 on from the head coach, I don't see that going anywhere. 0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.040 I don't see Ceedee Lamb going anywhere. I don't see 0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:39.600 Michael Parsons going anywhere. And so you can change the 0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:42.279 head coaches, and you can change the coaching staff, but 0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:44.320 it's going to be ultimately about the players. And the 0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:48.640 only way things would massively change here would be you'd 0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:51.000 have to go in a completely different direction at quarterback. 0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.839 And I don't see this team doing that. Whereas, yeah, 0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:55.719 there's a lot of great points that the caller made, 0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:57.800 and I do think there are franchises in the NFL 0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.600 that would be considering that right now, but those are 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:04.319 more aggressive franchises than this one is. And again, I'm 0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.759 going more off since i've covered team, but I've covered 0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:09.839 team since twenty eleven, and there's been no blowing up. 0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:12.319 I mean it's literally gone from like it just rolls 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:14.279 into the next thing. Like there was no blowing things 0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:16.960 up when they decided to go from Romo to Dak. 0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:18.520 There was no blowing things up when they went from 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.680 Garrett to Mike McCarthy. And so while that could be 0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:23.360 a good thing, that might be the best thing that 0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:26.200 happens would be to blow everything up and start over new. 0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:30.840 That's I would don't see that happening with this organization 0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:31.160 at all. 0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:34.160 If you trade Dak Prescott, your window is officially closed, 0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:37.040 and it's closed for two three years until you can 0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:38.319 get a quarterback that you trust to be. 0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:39.960 Able to Oh, I don't think that at all, not 0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:41.839 in today's NFL. I do not think that at all. 0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:44.360 If you get if you got the right player, you know, 0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:46.920 I think that you've seen the brock Perties and the 0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:49.920 Jalen hurts Is of the world that if they did 0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:53.239 draft that right player at twenty four, I could see 0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:55.560 it going that way. But that's a big risk because 0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:57.719 that player would after twenty four could also have the 0:40:57.760 --> 0:40:58.880 impact of Johnny Manziel. 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:00.680 But if we're talking about blow it up, you're not 0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:03.920 just trading Dak Prescott, you're trading CD, You're trading Micah. 0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.239 You're trying to get as min draphics as possible because 0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.279 you're trying to blow it up. That's what I'm I'm saying. 0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.000 Just get It's the same point you just made about 0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:13.520 the head coach. Yeah, if the head coach goes somewhere, 0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:17.000 that doesn't mean Dak, CD and Micah are following. Just 0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:21.120 because your quarterback goes somewhere doesn't mean CD, Micah your 0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:24.640 head coach are following. Like it's just one specific move, right, 0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:27.120 if you decide to do it all, then it might 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:30.200 be a window of two to three or four years. 0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:33.320 I just meant, I guess with the quarterback as a 0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:35.520 bigger that's the move that would blow things up because 0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.080 it would be a quarterback driven league. That's the thing 0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:42.040 that whatever organization you look at successful and not, the 0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:45.319 quarterback position is the biggest barometer of why that team 0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:48.000 did or didn't have success, you know, And and I 0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.200 think Dak Prescott is a great barometer, just like Tony 0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:53.879 Rummel was of the Dallas Cowboys. Very good. Can't get 0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:56.040 it done in January. That doesn't mean that they're bad. 0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:58.959 That doesn't mean that there's not a ninety nine percent 0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:00.920 of the teams in the league when one have that player. 0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:02.560 But it just they haven't been able to get it 0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:06.160 done in January. But they're obviously very good. I mean, 0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:08.880 this isn't just a Jerry Jones thing with Dak Prescott. 0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:12.640 Most people that know the NFL that are way smarter 0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:15.520 than any of us, would think the Cowboys are crazy 0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:17.560 to move on from Dak Prescott, you know. And I 0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.600 get that fans are frustrated and because the team hasn't 0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.800 had that success in January, but I don't see the 0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:26.000 team moving on because there's a way greater chance that 0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:29.440 you make it so much worse. And when I say 0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:31.239 so much worse, it's not just like oh next year, 0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:32.919 like I'm talking like for the next ten years. 0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:33.120 Yep. 0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:36.600 Than if you keep trying to find ways to put 0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:39.200 pieces around Dak and then finally, you know, get over 0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:40.920 the hump and maybe get hot in January. 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:42.920 Well, and this is all great conversation as well. 0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:46.680 But even if let's say Dak does say yes to 0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.520 a deal, he does agree and he lifts the no 0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:53.200 trade clause to go somewhere, what situation is he doing 0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:55.239 that for? Because it's going to be a situation that 0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.320 doesn't need a quarterback, because it's going to take some 0:42:57.840 --> 0:42:59.560 draft capital. It's going to take a lot of a 0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:01.959 hole to get him out of Dallas in the first place. 0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:03.440 Plus they're gonna have to make the room from a 0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:06.160 cap standpoint too. What situation is he going to go 0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:09.279 to and say, okay, I'll maybe sign off. 0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:11.680 Okay, Well, he's got to agree to this first of all, exactly, 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:13.759 So he isn't agreeing to this on Jerry just sitting 0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.239 there mentioning it to him, you know, and passing that's 0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:19.200 obviously a sit down meeting. Yeah, and you know how 0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:21.200 pissed off Dak Prescott would be if you sat down 0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.200 and said that, hey, we're going to trade you. So 0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:26.000 there's a lot of teams that he'd be like, oh, oh, 0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.440 you guys think I'm the problem. Uh okay, Yeah, I 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:30.120 bet you. There'd be five or six teams and they 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:31.840 would be able to get something done, and you probably 0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:34.200 see Dak Prescott play really well that next season for whatever. 0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:36.479 So I don't see that happen. 0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:40.759 It's just it's a not a chance in the world. 0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:43.640 I was gonna say a minuscule chance. I don't think 0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:46.920 there's a single option for Dak to be traded here. 0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:49.279 Dak Prescott's going to be here for a while. 0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:51.920 Yeah, Buckley, buckle, buckle up. 0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:54.280 All right, that does it for us. You're on Talking Cowboys, 0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:57.600 great calls as always. We might be back next week, 0:43:57.680 --> 0:43:59.520 we might not because yeah, we've. 0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:00.800 Got a lot of stuff, got a lot going on. 0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.080 I say, it's still gonna be in Africa and John 0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:04.440 will be at the combine, so we're gonna have to 0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:05.080 figure that one out. 0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:07.000 Yeah, I'll fill the other seat. 0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:07.759 Maybe it's you and Josh. 0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:10.160 Yeah, maybe I did. 0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:13.960 Uh, I did get to see talking Cowboys longtime listeners 0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:14.480 will enjoy this. 0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:16.120 I got to catch up with Rob Phillips over the 0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:19.080 weekend nice and I said, hey, just come on by. 0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.080 Let's see what you uh, let's see what you still 0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:24.080 got and he said anytime. So maybe maybe this will 0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.400 be a week where I bring Rob Phillips into the 0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:28.200 full up and see how it goes, where I can 0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:29.640 fill the chairs with the triplet's. 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:30.560 We'll see what happens. 0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:32.839 All right, That does it for us here on Talking 0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:35.879 Cowboys for Chris being John Machoda, Nick Harris, and Kyle 0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:38.000 Yoman saying so long from the start and first go, 0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:40.400 we'll see you next week. This has been a production 0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:44.359 of Dallascowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.