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Speaker 4: Nick Harris, John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 1: WBC studios. Welcome in, everybody. We've got John Machoda back

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Speaker 1: in the building today. What's up, John, what's going on?

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Speaker 5: He'll be back to be back.

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Speaker 1: It feels like we're in that loll. We've got Nick

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Speaker 1: Harris and Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman's.

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Speaker 1: But it's that loll between the Super Bowl and the

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Speaker 1: combine where there's nothing going on whatsoever. There's no Pro

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Speaker 1: Days yet, there's no free agency yet, there's really nothing.

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Speaker 1: It's the end of the coaching carousel. You get to

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Speaker 1: see some hires. We'll talk about that a little bit

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Speaker 1: later on, but yeah, Nick, whenever you look at the

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Speaker 1: NFL landscape, there's.

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Speaker 5: Not anything happening really.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the only thing you can really look at from

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Speaker 6: the calendar is franchise tags are able to be applied

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Speaker 6: starting today going forward for the next two weeks. But

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Speaker 6: it doesn't look like this franchise is going to use

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Speaker 6: one this year. We've talked about it at nauseaum, I

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Speaker 6: believe so far here in the offseason and then during

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Speaker 6: the season as well, it just doesn't make sense to

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Speaker 6: put that tag.

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Speaker 7: On anybody right now going into twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 6: So I would expect the Cowboys to be quiet in

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Speaker 6: the next couple of weeks from that instance. But I

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Speaker 6: think also you could look for, you know, before free agency.

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Speaker 6: I think there's a couple of things you can still

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Speaker 6: look for for this team. And one it's a potential

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Speaker 6: restructuring of Dak Prescott's con track. I think that's something

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Speaker 6: you you can kind of look at, but that could

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Speaker 6: happen before free agency. You can talk about Ceedee Lamb's

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Speaker 6: contract too. I don't think that necessarily has as much

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Speaker 6: importance of getting done before March eleventh hits, but you know,

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Speaker 6: maybe trying to get a beat on the receiver market

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Speaker 6: before guys like Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase and those

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Speaker 6: guys get their deals.

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Speaker 7: You know, that's certainly something to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 6: And I believe Mike Evans as well is going to

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Speaker 6: be up for an extension this year as well, So

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Speaker 6: there's a lot to still kind of keep an eye

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Speaker 6: on and keep your keep your ear out for. You know,

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Speaker 6: I'm kind of keeping my phone faced up just in

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Speaker 6: case for a couple of those reasons. But yeah, most definitely,

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Speaker 6: I think the focus is Combined, which you know, will

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Speaker 6: be in Indianapolis next week. I'll miss next week's show, Sorry, guys,

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Speaker 6: you know Dan, I'm just I'm.

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Speaker 8: Not thinking I'm gonna be too Yeah, yeah, come on,

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Speaker 8: come on.

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Speaker 7: Down, John.

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Speaker 5: I think that means we're all missing next yea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds about It's gonna be me by myself

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Speaker 1: talking about the combine. Maybe I'll just do like a

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Speaker 1: storyline ask type show where I've.

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Speaker 5: Got just phone calls coming in.

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Speaker 1: I'll learn from Nick Eatmon and there or and I'll

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Speaker 1: ask him some Maybe that's how we do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the phone calls are you guys, it's you maybe

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Speaker 1: in Indy, John and Indy, and then we can go.

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Speaker 6: To Isaacah and Mount Kilimanjarro. He got in yesterday after

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Speaker 6: about eighteen hours of flying. So you see the first

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Speaker 1: I mean he looked like he was doing he was

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Speaker 1: halfway down in a squat, like he had zero leg room.

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Speaker 8: Well, eighteen hours, it was about four hours.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well I think he went to Detroit first. So

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Speaker 5: you know that flight. How long is that flight?

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Speaker 8: Two three hours?

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Speaker 7: Two three Okay, Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 6: He went Dallas, Detroit, Detroit to Amsterdam, than Amsterdam to

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Speaker 6: kill him in Jarrow And it was about eighteen to

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Speaker 7: And yeah, he made it in.

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Speaker 5: Yesterday, but he did make it safely.

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Speaker 7: Better better man than me, Better man than me.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the franchise tag? Nick talked

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Speaker 8: No, it would be very surprising. Yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys lean on and now we'll give them the tag.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think there's any better example than

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Speaker 8: they're not shy about using it. But I mean I

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Speaker 8: Like absolutely nobody. I mean, now, there's definitely people that

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Speaker 8: no in years past where you would have basically all

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Speaker 8: have to get that done. I mean, I guess if

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's just nobody on that list that you want

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Speaker 6: I think Tony Pollard could have been an idea before

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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm thinking it would have to have been

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Speaker 7: Where you're just like, whoa the check.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, whoa, they've been saving this thing up for the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: Where did this come from? And he's got like a

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Speaker 8: we can't even mess around. This is such a big

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Speaker 8: part of this team. But I've always said that covering

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Speaker 8: because if it gets you finally to that Super Bowl, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, there's they're going to keep everybody

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Speaker 8: Balling in the playoffs and you've got this Cowboys team

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Speaker 1: Has hasn't happened. They have applied the tag every year

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Speaker 1: Then it was Dalton Schultzen twenty two, Tony Pollard in

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Speaker 1: seventeen the Dallas has not applied the tag. I'm with you, guys,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a guy on the roster, And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't think there's anywhere who's the

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Speaker 1: like like a Trent Sig. Yeah, like something weird like

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Speaker 1: that matter. Trent Sig gets the friend, you get the

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Speaker 5: Brian Anger, I mean, I don't know what his contract situation.

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Speaker 7: He's not he's not up to be a free agent.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I only I mean, who are the top

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Speaker 8: It's Stephan Gilmore, it's Beyottish and Laren's Arms Gilmore.

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Speaker 6: I don't think you're paying market value for Gilmore, but

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Speaker 7: I'm just trying to look for the best case, like

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Speaker 7: who has the ten percent change?

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Speaker 1: Well, remember it isn't it the combination of the top

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Speaker 6: It would be like Tyron, Tyron Smith and be Oddish year.

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Speaker 6: I don't think you're giving either of those guys.

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Speaker 8: So Steph On Gilmore would be in in in this.

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Speaker 8: In that conversation for me five years ago, team doesn't

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Speaker 8: There's no question about that. And it sounds like from

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Speaker 8: wanted to bring him back. I just didn't win one

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Speaker 8: to give that franchise tag number.

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Speaker 5: Uh do Armstrong?

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Speaker 6: No, I don't think you're paying top that to money.

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Speaker 6: Wouldn't be that's that's you're talking. Gosh, is that what

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Speaker 8: If it's if it's top five, we see what it

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Speaker 8: my biggest takeaway on that is would be Michael must

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Speaker 8: tag out of it. Just in free agency with Dorrance,

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Speaker 8: I mean their best two edge rushers and preg So

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Speaker 8: it would be Dorance and Dante Fowler. I honestly would

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Speaker 8: be surprised if one of them, if not both, ends

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Speaker 8: up in Washington with Dan Quinn. I would like to

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Speaker 8: have to be That's what I like when I look

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Speaker 8: at all those I know you've written about it too,

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Speaker 8: Like those all those unrestricted free agents, Like there's really

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Speaker 8: almost nobody on there unless they're willing to come for

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Speaker 8: somewhat of a team friendly deal. There's nobody that you're

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Speaker 8: to overpay a little bit to keep that guy. It's like, no,

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's gonna suck if you if you lose

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Speaker 8: some of those guys, but you don't. You shouldn't be

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Speaker 8: overpaying for any of them.

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Speaker 5: I really think Larrance would be about a twenty million hit.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's not gonna happen, Absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: Sorry.

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Speaker 6: I think I think the only one that was a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's about it. You know, you look at this

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Speaker 1: There you go, But we've still got Cowboys fans that

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Speaker 1: Eight eight eight, eight five five two two nine seven

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Speaker 7: Is there like an overwhelmings I No, I mean not,

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Speaker 6: I think that's probably the biggest thing. You know, Jerry

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Speaker 8: I would that's a good one. If I'm going off

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Speaker 8: is does Michael Parsons need to be doing all these podcasts.

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Speaker 6: You can see because he just won the MVP in

439
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Speaker 6: the Celebrity All Star Game and then he was tweeting

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Speaker 6: out last night. He's trying to join a men's softball

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Speaker 6: league in Frisco. So yeah, he's trying to get all

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Speaker 6: the sports done this offseason game.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Michael, we've got an open spot on our team.

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Speaker 1: If you want to join, you can come on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we were runners up in our league last year.

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Speaker 1: We almost wanted called the recess Rejects. We could totally

447
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Speaker 1: make it happen. We wear the ugliest uniforms.

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Speaker 5: By the way, if.

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Speaker 7: Michael doesn't jump on, let me know, I'll let you

450
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Speaker 7: know some good second base.

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Speaker 5: All right, I might be missing a couple of games.

452
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Speaker 5: I've got some kiddos on the way, so we'll make

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Speaker 5: it work.

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Speaker 7: Yeah you got three extra.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly all right, We've got Eric in North

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Speaker 1: Carolina on the line.

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Speaker 5: Eric, what's on your mind? You're on Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 16: Hey, guys, Harry all today doing great?

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Speaker 3: How are you all doing well.

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Speaker 16: I was just reading an article about from Patrick Walker

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Speaker 16: that said that Jimmy Johnson is on Jerry Jones advisory board,

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Speaker 16: and I was just wondering if you guys could talk

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Speaker 16: about that, and and just the second thing is, I

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Speaker 16: was wondering if y'all could give me your top five linebackers,

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Speaker 16: like on your stack. My top one is Tommy Ikenberg

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Speaker 16: And I'll just hang up and listen.

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Speaker 5: Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Eric, Two good questions. Yeah, you can read

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Speaker 1: that article on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Jimmy Johnson and

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are leaning hard into the makeup portion of

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Speaker 1: their relationship as of late. That's the opening line from

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Speaker 1: Patrick Walker. His quote, specifically on WQAM five sixty am

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Speaker 1: in Miami was since the ring of honor, I'm on

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones's board advisory board now, possibly with a bit

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Speaker 1: of jest regarding having an actual title, so there might

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Speaker 1: not be an actual advisory.

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Speaker 5: Board for Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 1: But that's what's Jimmy saying here is he's been in

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Speaker 1: the back pocket of Jerry, and he's been having his

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Speaker 1: own conversations since that day.

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Speaker 6: I think that's great to see from a Cowboys fan perspective,

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Speaker 6: you know, to see those two being able to not

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Speaker 6: only come together for the Ring of Honor this past year,

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Speaker 6: but now being able to kind of work together in

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Speaker 6: some ways. And you know, Jerry reaching out to Jimmy

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Speaker 6: for advice. But I don't put a whole lot of

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Speaker 6: stock into it as far as the big picture stuff.

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Speaker 8: I don't either. It does sound good just because the

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Speaker 8: last time those two worked together, it led to building

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Speaker 8: a dynasty, and that's what every Cowboys fan wants this

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Speaker 8: team to get back to, So of course you like

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Speaker 8: hearing that. I find it just interesting just because of

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Speaker 8: the fact of that never should have the communication, never

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Speaker 8: should have stoped between the two of them, you know,

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Speaker 8: And I think there's some pettiness probably there on both sides.

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Speaker 8: I think both are a little bit to blame for that.

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Speaker 8: So however it came to to where Jerry finally put

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Speaker 8: them in the Ring of Honor, I think that that's

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Speaker 8: a good move that helped them kind of maybe bury

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Speaker 8: the hatchet and kind of get back on talking terms.

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Speaker 8: But I think it's a good thing because Jimmy is

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Speaker 8: a guy that a lot of people around the NFL

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Speaker 8: lean on that will go down and visit him in

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Speaker 8: the keys and stuff like that. I know over those

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Speaker 8: years of the Dynasty years in New England, Bill Belichick

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Speaker 8: was doing that a lot. So yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 8: a I think it's a good thing, but I don't

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Speaker 8: I don't look at it as necessarily like, oh, well,

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Speaker 8: now now they're going to return to the nineties glory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you think about it? Second part of

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Speaker 1: the question, stack and some linebackers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so linebackers you talked about on the draft blog

513
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Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago in Dallas Cowboys dot Com

514
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Speaker 6: potential double dip positions, and I think linebacker is certainly

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Speaker 6: one that you know could happen if the Cowboys maybe

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Speaker 6: even pick up an extra pick here in the draft.

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Speaker 7: It's it's very necessary to get one in the early rounds.

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Speaker 6: He's sort of top five that I have a number

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Speaker 6: one Edrian Cooper out of Texas A and m number

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Speaker 6: two Peyton Wilson out of North Carolina State. Three Jeremiah

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Speaker 6: Trotter junior out of Clemson, four Cedric Gray out of

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Speaker 6: North Carolina, and then five. Yeah, your boy Ikenberg there, Eric, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think he's He's definitely got some run stoppability. He's

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Speaker 6: got that physicality that I think this team would need.

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Speaker 6: I think there's two types of linebackers that you're kind

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Speaker 6: of seeing in this draft. You got the athletic guys

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Speaker 6: that can cover all around the field, and then you

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Speaker 6: got some of the bigger set guys who maybe more

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Speaker 6: downhill guys that will stop the run.

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Speaker 7: You look at second levels.

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Speaker 6: Like Baltimore, you look at second levels like Kansas City,

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Speaker 6: and you wonder how you can kind of replicate those

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Speaker 6: I think there's a way to go in either of

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Speaker 6: those directions with guys in this draft if they if

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Speaker 6: they feel like they can pop on one in the

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Speaker 6: second or third rounds. I think any of those five

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Speaker 6: guys would be interesting directions to take.

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Speaker 7: I've got Cooper from A and M.

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Speaker 1: Trotter from Clemson, Peyton Wilson from ENCI State, I like

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Speaker 1: Junior Colson from Michigan. Ayah, well, you talk about a

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Speaker 1: big downhill defender. Six with three two forty seven, I

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Speaker 1: mean these are guys that are I mean, that is

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Speaker 1: a guy who's stuffed the run. And I think Ikenberg's

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Speaker 1: in there too. He's just outside my top five. He's

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Speaker 1: at number six right now. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: good players there. Are you considering Dallas Turner from Alabama

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Speaker 1: and Ed Rusher? Yes, I am too, Okay, So I

548
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Speaker 1: just want to make sure we're on the same page.

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Speaker 1: Chris Braswell's in there too, both out out of Alabama,

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Speaker 1: both kind of played that three four outside linebackers. Sort

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Speaker 1: of feel I'm I'm considering them ed rushers and I'm

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Speaker 1: staying more true to linebacker here with Cooper, Trotter, Wilson

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Speaker 1: and Colson.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, mainly off the ball guys.

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Speaker 8: Swarre draft expert at the Athletic Is is Dane Brugler,

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Speaker 8: whoever used to work on the Draft show here does

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Speaker 8: a great job. I lean on him for a lot

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Speaker 8: of the draft stuff because I just, I mean, that's

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Speaker 8: his that's his job three sixty five, you know. And

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Speaker 8: so I recently put together like twenty players to know

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Speaker 8: for the Cowboys in the first round, and what kind

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Speaker 8: of stood out to me, I used Dane's top one

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Speaker 8: hundred draft board is kind of a template for it,

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Speaker 8: and it was interesting how he didn't have he doesn't

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Speaker 8: have a linebacker in the top thirty eight players out

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Speaker 8: of his top one, right, yeah, and he has Colson

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Speaker 8: at thirty nine. This is out of his top one hundred,

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Speaker 8: just linebackers.

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Speaker 5: These are these are his Colson is number one.

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Speaker 8: He does wow, And so these are thought I was

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Speaker 8: high having him as four out of his top one hundred.

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Speaker 8: He has five linebackers, so it lines up with the

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Speaker 8: caller asking the question, and so he has he has

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Speaker 8: Colson at thirty nine, Eddrian Cooper at forty two, Iikenberg

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Speaker 8: at seventy four, Peyton Wilson at seventy seven, and Trotter

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Speaker 8: at ninety nine. And that kind of surprised me a

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Speaker 8: little bit, just as a Florida State fan, because I've

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Speaker 8: seen Trotter a lot with Clemson and I just think

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Speaker 8: he's phenomenal. I think if you if like it lined up,

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Speaker 8: like let's say that draft board went exactly like the

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Speaker 8: draft goes, if you're able to get Trotter at ninety nine,

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Speaker 8: I just think that would be that's yeah, great, great.

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Speaker 5: Would be beautiful.

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Speaker 1: That's better than you pick Nashwan, right, and that means

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Speaker 1: you're pick yeah, and that means you're picking something significant

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Speaker 1: of value in the first two rounds to pass over

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Speaker 1: a linebacker.

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Speaker 5: That means you're getting probably an offensive lineman, maybe two.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're getting a big defensive tackle, like a sweat

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Speaker 1: or something out of Texas in the second round.

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Speaker 5: I would love that pairing.

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Speaker 1: You get an offensive lineman in the first, you get

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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle in the second, get a linebacker in

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Speaker 1: the third, and it's Jeremiah Trotter, sign me up.

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Speaker 8: You know what impacts this a lot, though, is you know,

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Speaker 8: when we go to the combine next week, it's it's

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Speaker 8: not I mean, it's obviously about the draft, but it's

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Speaker 8: a lot about free agency too. You know, going on

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Speaker 8: Jerry's bus, there's a lot I mean, the agents are

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Speaker 8: there the whole time, so there's a lot of unofficial

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Speaker 8: talking about free agency things like that. Trades can you know,

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Speaker 8: discussions can happen and stuff like that. And it's like

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Speaker 8: if the draft was next week, like I'm thinking that

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys are taking a linebacker second round, and they might,

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Speaker 8: but if they make a trade between now and the draft,

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Speaker 8: or do they sign something in free agency? Because Mike

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Speaker 8: Zimmer likes this linebacker. They want to bring in a

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Speaker 8: veteran and you pair that with what they have with

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Speaker 8: Clark and Overshown. I mean, maybe they don't draft one,

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Speaker 8: you know, but as we see here today, like ripping

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Speaker 8: off those five names, like, you'd think that there's a

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Speaker 8: decent chance of the Cowboys draft one of those players.

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Speaker 8: Because that's such a major position. It has to be addressed,

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Speaker 8: no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I think there's ways that you can address those positions,

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Speaker 1: but it's got to be linebacker. You got to find

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Speaker 1: something there at some point this offseason. Since they haven't

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Speaker 1: done anything yet, we're looking straight at the looking straight

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Speaker 1: at the draft.

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Speaker 5: Currently. All right, let's go to Nebby in Maryland. What's

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Speaker 5: going on? Nebby?

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, It's been a long time since I've been

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Speaker 2: on this show, so I just got to say, it

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Speaker 2: feels great to be back on Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Nebi, thanks for calling in. You've always been great.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. That means a lot coming from you. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I have a comment, I have a comment, and then

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Speaker 2: I have a question. My comment is I just want

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Speaker 2: to thank Will McClay for being so loyal to the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys, and I really hope that we are able

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Speaker 2: to win a Super Bowl championship before he leaves this

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Speaker 2: organization to become a general manager somewhere else. And my

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Speaker 2: question is do you see Deduced fun having a role

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Speaker 2: on on the Dallas Cowboys next year? Because I am

635
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Speaker 2: really high on him and I really think he can

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Speaker 2: help us out. I take care, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for being patient with me, and have a great week.

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Speaker 5: Oh bye, Great job, Nevy, great job man.

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Speaker 1: The first thing about Will McClay, no doubt, I'm in

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Speaker 1: all agreeance with him, and hopefully they do get it

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Speaker 1: done because he's done a great job of building this

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Speaker 1: roster drafting. That's why it is exciting to talk about

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Speaker 1: the draft in this building. There were other organizations around

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Speaker 1: the NFL where you look at the draft and you say,

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Speaker 1: that's just.

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Speaker 5: Another date on the calendar. It could work out, it

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Speaker 5: could not. Here.

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Speaker 1: You've really built some trust with this front office in

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Speaker 1: the way that they've they've angled towards the draft.

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Speaker 5: That's what makes things exciting moving forward. And Will mcclay's

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Speaker 5: the head of all that.

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Speaker 8: And the Deuce Fawn thing is interesting because I think

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Speaker 8: that He's obviously a great story and a lot of

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Speaker 8: people love that about it, But I just thought that

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Speaker 8: there'd be We just saw a little glimpses where they

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Speaker 8: were able to get them involved last year, and I

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Speaker 8: just thought more of that would be utilized as a

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Speaker 8: season when I and there was less of it sure,

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Speaker 8: And so kind of like going with the linebacker thing,

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Speaker 8: it's one of those deals where I don't know. I

661
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Speaker 8: kind of feel like if we're going in the draft

662
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Speaker 8: right now, I mean, if you don't have Tony Poward,

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Speaker 8: you have to draft a running back relatively early. I'm

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Speaker 8: not talking about first round, but I would think somewhere

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Speaker 8: maybe as early as the second or third. But I

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Speaker 8: just I don't know that duce Vaughan is going to

667
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Speaker 8: be the answer there where you look at him as

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Speaker 8: like he's getting fifteen carries a game. I just don't

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Speaker 8: know that that not with what I saw from the

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Speaker 8: offense last year, which is obviously going to be a

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Speaker 8: similar offense to what we see next year.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I think the.

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Speaker 6: Ceiling there obviously is a complimentary back that does a

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Speaker 6: lot in the receiving game, and potentially, you know, if

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Speaker 6: there's one day that the team decides to move on

676
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Speaker 6: from Turp and then you know you have a return

677
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Speaker 6: threat and do spawn there. But yeah, his opportunities, and

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Speaker 6: this was something I kind of cracked down after the

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Speaker 6: season with him specifically, is whenever his opportunities came, they

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Speaker 6: came in times where the second team offensive line was in.

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Speaker 6: He wasn't really able to get many running wanes. Not

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Speaker 6: to say he's not to take any fault, but gosh,

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Speaker 6: there were some opportunities. You look at half of his

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Speaker 6: carries and I don't think any of us are getting

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Speaker 6: any yards on those carries. So I would like to

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Speaker 6: see him get that one more big shot during training

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Speaker 6: camp and preseason next year. See what he does with that,

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Speaker 6: see if he's improved going into year two. And if

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Speaker 6: he has, then you know there's an opportunity for him

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Speaker 6: to be on this on this team going into year two.

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Speaker 6: But I think training camp and preseason is going to

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Speaker 6: be really big for him.

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Speaker 1: I didn't event this past weekend for the Cowboys club

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Speaker 1: where we were talking about the season recap and we had.

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Speaker 5: It on that but well, we were talking about the.

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Speaker 1: Season as a whole, and we had a couple questions

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Speaker 1: over Duce Fawn and here's another one from Neby. When's

698
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Speaker 1: the last time we're talking about a six round player

699
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Speaker 1: in the middle of March or I guess February is

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Speaker 1: still about wanting to see more of the six round player.

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Speaker 1: The expectations are high for duce Fawn, but you got

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Speaker 1: to remember who he was as a draft pick.

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Speaker 5: He was a late day three draft pick and working

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Speaker 5: into the fold.

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Speaker 1: One of the compar Garrison's I had with him during

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Speaker 1: draft time, and it wasn't an uncommon comparison, it's darren Sproles.

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Speaker 5: If you look at darren Sproles and what he did

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Speaker 5: in his.

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Speaker 1: First season he was with the San Diego Chargers fifteen games,

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Speaker 1: he had eight carries for fifty yards, did not have

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Speaker 1: a touchdown, and then he had three receptions for ten yards,

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Speaker 1: so total yardage wise, he had what is that sixty

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Speaker 1: yards total his entire rookie season. Then he missed the

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Speaker 1: entire second season.

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Speaker 5: With an ankle injury.

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Speaker 1: So through the first two years of the league, darren

717
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Speaker 1: Sproles had nothing go his way, and honestly, he didn't

718
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Speaker 1: end up really doing much with San Diego. They moved

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Speaker 1: on from him in twenty eleven. He stayed five years

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Speaker 1: with San Diego, had a decent career with the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Then he moved on to New Orleans. But then it

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Speaker 1: was when he got to Philly in twenty fourteen where

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Speaker 1: things really hit the ground running. Deuce Vaughn's got to

724
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Speaker 1: figure out a way to make it in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he's not trying to bank away.

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Speaker 1: He's as involved as an individual, he's as motivated as

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Speaker 1: an individual.

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Speaker 5: He has got the right mindset to be in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But he's got to find a way to adjust to

730
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Speaker 1: the pace of play, and teams are going to have

731
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Speaker 1: to adjust into how they figure out how to use

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Speaker 1: douce Vawn. And he had twenty three carries forty yards

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Speaker 1: over seven games. He had seven receptions for forty yards,

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Speaker 1: so he actually had eighty yards of production compared to

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Speaker 1: sixty for Darren Sprolls. I'm not giving up on duce

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Speaker 1: Fawn just yet, but at the same time, you've got

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Speaker 1: to look at where he is as a player. He's

738
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Speaker 1: got a long way to go, and I think the

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Speaker 1: team has a long way to go to find a

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Speaker 1: way to use him.

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Speaker 6: He had a couple of fun moments in preseason, he

742
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 6: really did had great moments. That touchdown I'm looking at

743
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Speaker 6: right here from the Seattle game. I forgot where he

744
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 6: kind of he was getting spun down and he spun

745
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Speaker 6: around was able to make it work. Thirteen carries for

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Speaker 6: sixty four yards and two touchdowns during training camp or

747
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Speaker 6: excuse me, during preseason right at five yards of carry.

748
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Speaker 7: So I think there's still an opportunity for him to

749
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Speaker 7: make some noise.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, when you talk about the six round picks getting

751
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Speaker 8: a lot of attention and talk, So I went back

752
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 8: and looked at what they've since twenty sixteen. They took

753
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Speaker 8: Anthony Brown in the sixth round, Savior Woods, Cedric Wilson,

754
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 8: Donovan Wilson, So all good players go great gets all

755
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 8: the stay around. But yeah, definitely not the hype that

756
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 8: matches up with what Douce Fawn has. I think a

757
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Speaker 8: lot of it too, also has to do with that

758
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 8: he was just a great college player too, and a

759
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Speaker 8: lot of people got to see him tear it up

760
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Speaker 8: and so it was just air easy to see, oh, yeah,

761
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Speaker 8: this is the way that he could be used. And again,

762
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Speaker 8: like every every offense is different, So it's like just

763
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Speaker 8: because he's not being used in a certain way here

764
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Speaker 8: doesn't mean that like he doesn't have an NFL career.

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Speaker 8: I just don't. I'm just going off of what I

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Speaker 8: saw last year, knowing the offense is probably going to

767
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Speaker 8: be somewhat similar. I just I don't know how they're

768
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Speaker 8: going to use him more. I mean, so much has

769
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Speaker 8: to be fixed in the running game before you even

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Speaker 8: get to that, And a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of the questions around Cavante Turpin in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two is how do you get evolved offensively? He got

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Speaker 1: involved offensively this year. They took him an offseason. He

774
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Speaker 1: had eleven receptions one hundred and ten yards and that

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Speaker 1: big touchdown early in the season.

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Speaker 5: So there's ways that you can get guys involved.

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Speaker 1: That was rushing yards, by the way, you had twelve

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Speaker 1: receptions in one hundred and twenty seven yards receiving.

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Speaker 5: I think there's ways that you can get Dousfon involved.

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Speaker 5: You just got to find a way to do it.

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Speaker 17: Hey, guys, good show, First time call. I usually speak

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Speaker 17: to a little bit on the storyline, but thanks for

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Speaker 17: letting me in. I really love the way you guys

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Speaker 17: have your insight. I mean, especially on the Draft show.

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Speaker 17: It's just very in depth and it really helps us

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Speaker 17: novice fans, you know, really understand it even more. My

843
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 17: favorite draft would be if we get that kid from

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Speaker 17: Oregon as a center number one, pick Powers and then

845
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Speaker 17: Swift from Texas as a defensive line and number two,

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Speaker 17: and then I would take Benson from Florida state running back,

847
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Speaker 17: or even Brayln Allen from Wisconsin. That would be an

848
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Speaker 17: awesome three round pick for me. But it's all going

849
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Speaker 17: to depend on free agency, of course, because it looks

850
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Speaker 17: like Tyrant's coming back for at least one more year.

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Speaker 17: So hopefully we only have to replace center, which might

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Speaker 17: be a little bit easier. But a lot of the

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Speaker 17: draft boards show that kid going at sixteen and twenty one,

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Speaker 17: so I hope we don't have to use any ammunition

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Speaker 17: to go up and get him. But hopefully he'll be

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Speaker 17: there because he looks like a plug and play player.

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Speaker 17: But my question to you is this, because you know

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Speaker 17: they talk about everything. Jerry Jones and up to Dallas

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Speaker 17: are all in, ships are all in. Well, it's going

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Speaker 17: to depend on a lot on Dak Prescott's contract. I

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Speaker 17: love Dak. I think he's a heck of a player,

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Speaker 17: but after eight years and in the playoffs, I think

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Speaker 17: we need to go in a different direction. So if

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Speaker 17: we're truly all in, because obviously if we do what

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Speaker 17: we did this year, mccart's gone. I don't know if

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Speaker 17: them are signed more than a one year contract, but

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Speaker 17: they're going to blow the thing up. So if you

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Speaker 17: do redo Dak's contract, whether it's just for you know,

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Speaker 17: voided years so we can get some cap relief or

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Speaker 17: doing a true contract, they've got to, my opinion, make

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Speaker 17: it to where no trade clauses out of there. Now

872
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 17: you can maybe guarantee him that we won't trade you

873
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 17: this year because we're all in, but after that then

874
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 17: they're going to blow this thing up. So my question

875
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 17: to you would be this, if Pinnix is there at

876
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 17: twenty four, the quarterback from is it Washington State?

877
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 5: Washington?

878
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 17: Ye, if he's there, would you, I mean, do they

879
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 17: you think they value him more than they do trade lance?

880
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 17: And you know, I don't know if you guys can

881
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 17: answer on that, but that's what I would do. I

882
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 17: don't think any player, even as good as Dak is,

883
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 17: should demand a no trade claws.

884
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 16: But that's my opinion.

885
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 17: You know, hang up and listen. Great show, guys.

886
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 5: I appreciate you very much, Bruce.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing about Dak is you can't trade

888
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: him because there is no trade claws. You you can't

889
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: tag him because you can't. The only thing you can

890
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: trade that he's got to say yes, which which is

891
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: not going to happen.

892
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 8: Right, But I mean if they wanted to move on,

893
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 8: they could work something out with them. I mean, obviously

894
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 8: that's what the Lions did with Matthew Stafford. I mean,

895
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 8: it's not like this is It's not like it's a

896
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 8: hard no trade like all, well, there's just well he

897
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 8: can't be traded. No, he can be traded, but he

898
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 8: would have to he'd have to agree upon the team

899
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 8: that they were sending him to. And believe me, if

900
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 8: he said, how Mary Jones.

901
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 5: Would you have to carry there? Because he's fifty nine.

902
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 8: Oh, it's not a great to say.

903
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 5: I'm not doing it.

904
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 8: I'm just telling you that it can be traded.

905
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, where do you go?

906
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 8: Can I just one part of that Calle? Absolutely?

907
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

908
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 8: I think a lot of teams, a lot of franchises.

909
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 8: You could use the words blow this thing up if

910
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 8: it doesn't go well this year. I just don't see

911
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 8: any blowing up going here, because even if you move

912
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 8: on from the head coach, I don't see that going anywhere.

913
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 8: I don't see Ceedee Lamb going anywhere. I don't see

914
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 8: Michael Parsons going anywhere. And so you can change the

915
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 8: head coaches, and you can change the coaching staff, but

916
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 8: it's going to be ultimately about the players. And the

917
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 8: only way things would massively change here would be you'd

918
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 8: have to go in a completely different direction at quarterback.

919
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 8: And I don't see this team doing that. Whereas, yeah,

920
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 8: there's a lot of great points that the caller made,

921
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 8: and I do think there are franchises in the NFL

922
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 8: that would be considering that right now, but those are

923
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 8: more aggressive franchises than this one is. And again, I'm

924
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 8: going more off since i've covered team, but I've covered

925
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 8: team since twenty eleven, and there's been no blowing up.

926
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 8: I mean it's literally gone from like it just rolls

927
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 8: into the next thing. Like there was no blowing things

928
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 8: up when they decided to go from Romo to Dak.

929
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 8: There was no blowing things up when they went from

930
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 8: Garrett to Mike McCarthy. And so while that could be

931
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 8: a good thing, that might be the best thing that

932
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 8: happens would be to blow everything up and start over new.

933
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 8: That's I would don't see that happening with this organization

934
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 8: at all.

935
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 6: If you trade Dak Prescott, your window is officially closed,

936
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 6: and it's closed for two three years until you can

937
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 6: get a quarterback that you trust to be.

938
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 8: Able to Oh, I don't think that at all, not

939
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 8: in today's NFL. I do not think that at all.

940
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 8: If you get if you got the right player, you know,

941
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 8: I think that you've seen the brock Perties and the

942
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 8: Jalen hurts Is of the world that if they did

943
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 8: draft that right player at twenty four, I could see

944
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 8: it going that way. But that's a big risk because

945
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 8: that player would after twenty four could also have the

946
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 8: impact of Johnny Manziel.

947
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: But if we're talking about blow it up, you're not

948
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: just trading Dak Prescott, you're trading CD, You're trading Micah.

949
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: You're trying to get as min draphics as possible because

950
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: you're trying to blow it up. That's what I'm I'm saying.

951
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: Just get It's the same point you just made about

952
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: the head coach. Yeah, if the head coach goes somewhere,

953
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean Dak, CD and Micah are following. Just

954
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: because your quarterback goes somewhere doesn't mean CD, Micah your

955
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: head coach are following. Like it's just one specific move, right,

956
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: if you decide to do it all, then it might

957
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: be a window of two to three or four years.

958
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 8: I just meant, I guess with the quarterback as a

959
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 8: bigger that's the move that would blow things up because

960
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 8: it would be a quarterback driven league. That's the thing

961
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 8: that whatever organization you look at successful and not, the

962
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 8: quarterback position is the biggest barometer of why that team

963
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 8: did or didn't have success, you know, And and I

964
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 8: think Dak Prescott is a great barometer, just like Tony

965
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 8: Rummel was of the Dallas Cowboys. Very good. Can't get

966
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 8: it done in January. That doesn't mean that they're bad.

967
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,959
Speaker 8: That doesn't mean that there's not a ninety nine percent

968
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 8: of the teams in the league when one have that player.

969
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 8: But it just they haven't been able to get it

970
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 8: done in January. But they're obviously very good. I mean,

971
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 8: this isn't just a Jerry Jones thing with Dak Prescott.

972
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 8: Most people that know the NFL that are way smarter

973
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 8: than any of us, would think the Cowboys are crazy

974
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 8: to move on from Dak Prescott, you know. And I

975
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 8: get that fans are frustrated and because the team hasn't

976
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 8: had that success in January, but I don't see the

977
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 8: team moving on because there's a way greater chance that

978
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 8: you make it so much worse. And when I say

979
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 8: so much worse, it's not just like oh next year,

980
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 8: like I'm talking like for the next ten years.

981
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 5: Yep.

982
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 8: Than if you keep trying to find ways to put

983
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 8: pieces around Dak and then finally, you know, get over

984
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 8: the hump and maybe get hot in January.

985
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 5: Well, and this is all great conversation as well.

986
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: But even if let's say Dak does say yes to

987
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: a deal, he does agree and he lifts the no

988
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: trade clause to go somewhere, what situation is he doing

989
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: that for? Because it's going to be a situation that

990
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: doesn't need a quarterback, because it's going to take some

991
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: draft capital. It's going to take a lot of a

992
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,959
Speaker 1: hole to get him out of Dallas in the first place.

993
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: Plus they're gonna have to make the room from a

994
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: cap standpoint too. What situation is he going to go

995
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: to and say, okay, I'll maybe sign off.

996
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 8: Okay, Well, he's got to agree to this first of all, exactly,

997
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 8: So he isn't agreeing to this on Jerry just sitting

998
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 8: there mentioning it to him, you know, and passing that's

999
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 8: obviously a sit down meeting. Yeah, and you know how

1000
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 8: pissed off Dak Prescott would be if you sat down

1001
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 8: and said that, hey, we're going to trade you. So

1002
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 8: there's a lot of teams that he'd be like, oh, oh,

1003
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 8: you guys think I'm the problem. Uh okay, Yeah, I

1004
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 8: bet you. There'd be five or six teams and they

1005
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 8: would be able to get something done, and you probably

1006
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 8: see Dak Prescott play really well that next season for whatever.

1007
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,479
Speaker 8: So I don't see that happen.

1008
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 5: It's just it's a not a chance in the world.

1009
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 5: I was gonna say a minuscule chance. I don't think

1010
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 5: there's a single option for Dak to be traded here.

1011
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 7: Dak Prescott's going to be here for a while.

1012
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, Buckley, buckle, buckle up.

1013
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: All right, that does it for us. You're on Talking Cowboys,

1014
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: great calls as always. We might be back next week,

1015
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: we might not because yeah, we've.

1016
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 7: Got a lot of stuff, got a lot going on.

1017
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 6: I say, it's still gonna be in Africa and John

1018
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 6: will be at the combine, so we're gonna have to

1019
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 6: figure that one out.

1020
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll fill the other seat.

1021
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 7: Maybe it's you and Josh.

1022
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe I did.

1023
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: Uh, I did get to see talking Cowboys longtime listeners

1024
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: will enjoy this.

1025
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 5: I got to catch up with Rob Phillips over the

1026
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 5: weekend nice and I said, hey, just come on by.

1027
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: Let's see what you uh, let's see what you still

1028
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: got and he said anytime. So maybe maybe this will

1029
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: be a week where I bring Rob Phillips into the

1030
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: full up and see how it goes, where I can

1031
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: fill the chairs with the triplet's.

1032
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 5: We'll see what happens.

1033
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: All right, That does it for us here on Talking

1034
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: Cowboys for Chris being John Machoda, Nick Harris, and Kyle

1035
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: Yoman saying so long from the start and first go,

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