1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: This show contains adult material, references to drugs and swearing. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: You have been warned. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 2: Wait, I finally now understand why you bought a dog 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: is so that you can far a dates and play it. 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, my dog despired by the way that 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: was my dog around me. I'm a savage. 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Are you bored of modern dating meeting the same people 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: from the same apps in the same bar You've only 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: chosen because it's close to your house and you can 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: make your usual quick getaway. It's time to change the 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: narrative on how we find love. It's time to start 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: looking for love in all the wrong places. I'm going 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: on a wild dating adventure, only picking people who were 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: the total opposite of my type. And after twenty eight 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: of these dates in two months, will I find that 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: special someone? Or well, this experiment proved that I should 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: just give up on dating altogether. It's time to find out. 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm Grace Campbell and this is twenty eight dates later. Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, 19 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: this is what it would be like if you finally 20 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: caved in and let us be together. 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: I mean, the phrase caved in is actually perfect, because 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: if we ever got together, it'd be you pegging me so. 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: The guy I went on a date with this week right, 24 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: refers to himself as a wine coloisseur. 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: Can we get a paramedic please? Is there a paramedic here? 26 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: There is nothing more ick to me than people referring 27 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: to themselves and as a connossturt of anything but mainly wine. 28 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: Unless you won number one in the world. Even then, 29 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: I mean it is gross. Get a job. It's like 30 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: my mum would be like, I'm a wine connoisseur and 31 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: you're like, now you're an alcoholic perfect exactly. Yeah, just 32 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: just be open about it. 33 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: Because he was also like thirty, so it's like, don't 34 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: think you're a bit young to be like going around 35 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: like that. Like I love it when I meet like 36 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: like an old like kind of overweight man who like 37 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: loads everything about wine and smokesloads that cigar exactly. 38 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: Maybe I remember one time I was in this en 39 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: pub and Shrewsbury and the guy that owned it was 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: just like very posh man who would walk around with 41 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: like a glass of like murlow and a cigar and 42 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: his head. But how was the food that amazing? 43 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: That's amazing. But you're a thirty year old man who 44 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: lives in Homerton, East London. I was like, so, what 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: wine do you want? And he was like, we're just 46 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: like in apart and I'm not sure they're going to 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: have like the natural wines that I go for. So 48 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: then didn't get wine because he was so upset about 49 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: like the low quality of one. And then I once 50 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: stated a guy who used to talk about Natty wine. 51 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: He used to go, you know, it's wine with the 52 00:02:59,440 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: skin on. 53 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: What is that for me? 54 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Well, it means the grape, the skin hasn't been taken 55 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: off of the grape. But obviously it just sounds weirdly sexual. 56 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: Is it not just some like Italian wine maker with 57 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: hairy toes mushagan in a barrel. 58 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: Well maybe natty wine is like somebody who moisturizes their 59 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: feet with the body shot. 60 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting notes of them. 61 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm getting some share moisture. So so you in into wine. 62 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just like one of those things. 63 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: I can be a bit nerdy that. 64 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like working in wine kind of ruined 65 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: my ability to drink wine. I worked in a wine 66 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: shop in North London, just like selling wine, which I 67 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: got into for really slightly esoteric reasons. I was like yeah, 68 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: the philosophy of flavor is really interesting. But I also 69 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: I just really like drinking wine, so yeah, it was fun. 70 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: I don't want to shore on someone for their passion. 71 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: But you worked at the longest three months. You worked 72 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: at the lottest for three moments. 73 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: And then you tried to tell the via because you 74 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: had a philosophy of flavor. 75 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, well, actually the Batho Rose is the best, 76 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: which actually spoiler alert for wine. No, I can't shit 77 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: on a passion. But sometimes you do sound a bit douchey, 78 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: I guess, but like a girl's gotta know what a 79 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: girl's got to like, you know. 80 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was more I don't care for 81 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: people who like are so obsessed with food and so 82 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: obsessed with wine, and so I don't like it. I 83 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: think there's like a snobbery around it, and I just 84 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: don't care. I just can't relate. 85 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's. 86 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: Kind of I just even in that clip, can hear 87 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: myself switching off a bit, like when he said he 88 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: worked in a wine shop. I feel like, because I know, 89 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure my cousin worked in that wine shop. I'm 90 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: sure of it because as well. No, no, no, no, 91 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: but she just worked in this wine shop in Islington, 92 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: which is I'm sure I just had a guidance think 93 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: that that was the one. But I was like, I'm 94 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: not even gonna ask him. 95 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like a great topic of conversation, 96 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: like what you're you going to talk about? The notes, 97 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: the flavors. 98 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: That's what I don't like, Like, that's that's more what 99 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: was like kind of jarring and imagining him in a 100 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: wine bar. Yeah, talking about wine. 101 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: But it's also like if if I'm on a date 102 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: and I'm hoffing, it's not the wine, it's the coke 103 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 2: and the toilet. 104 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: Well, you're like a snob about coke. 105 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: Will give me a back go down. 106 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: To like the old Irish pa and you're like do 107 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: you know what, Like this is exactly where I would 108 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: take coke. 109 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: Thank you, Yeah, but like, well, actually I studied under 110 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: Pablo Escobar and I know good coke, and this is 111 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: cat this is like I. 112 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: Have an episode. 113 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you what you did. I'm alsoeing 114 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: a level with you and say I know who you are. 115 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: That's fine. 116 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if. 117 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: That's more normal than pretending you don't. If you did 118 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: do you like comedy? 119 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: I do? 120 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's good, take the truth sociopath and not I. 121 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I me and my friends theoretically try and 122 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: write stuff, but I'm very bad at it. Right what 123 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: at the moment? A novel about someone who is both 124 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: learning that they aren't going to inherit a house from 125 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 3: their family at the same time as ending a relationship. 126 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 3: And then also there's a bit of a subplot where 127 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: like people start melting in the street, which I haven't 128 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: figured out, like or not? 129 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: Are you into like sci fi? 130 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 131 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: What is that genre? Yeah? 132 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: Not like blokes with laser guns sci fi? But like, 133 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: I quite like you're just like weird and interesting ideas. 134 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: My dog's just parted, by the way, it wasn't me. 135 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: It hasn't reached me. 136 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah that is disgusting. 137 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah wait, I finally now understand why you bought a 138 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: dog is so that you can fight on dates and 139 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: blame it on her. Oh my god, my dog just fired, 140 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 2: by the way, that was my dog. Oh my god, 141 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: it smells like beef. 142 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: No, if I fired on a day, I would say 143 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: that I'd fired. 144 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't, I would you. 145 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: I genuinely would. 146 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, because actually you can't run away from your farts. 147 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly awesome, But my farts taste very they taste, 148 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: they smell like inherently vegetarian, like. 149 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: Your Your farts are so thick when people smell them, 150 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: they can't help but be like have synesthesia, Like it's 151 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: two is two senses. You taste it and you smell it. 152 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: That's how thick they are. Yeah, like I've got synesthesia. 153 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: Just some sitting there you and you fire and like 154 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: it also because you just shut yourself. 155 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: We were talking about how like small the dating pool 156 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: is in London in that I always, whenever I'm getting 157 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: with someone I like, realize that they've also gotten with 158 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: someone else. I know, you knowaby the gay world exactly, 159 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: but it's I keeps. 160 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: Having every friend dad and't like a four mile radius. 161 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: From where I had dance famously fucked my dad. 162 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: Print it now print it now litters didn't take that, 163 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: I said to my friend earlier. 164 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: I feel like at the moment, it's like everyone I 165 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: talked to on a dating app maybe but already spoken 166 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: to at one point when I was on dating app before, 167 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: or one of my friends had spoken to you, and 168 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: that really bugs me out. Like it's like it feels 169 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: like the pools getting smaller and smaller, even though we 170 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: live in like a massive fucking city. 171 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: Also, now another thing to level with you, I think 172 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: you once dated one of my friends. 173 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, who I. 174 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: Think it was a long time ago, and he said 175 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: that it never went any further than one day because 176 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: at the. 177 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: Time he thought the age gap was Yeah, I know 178 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: who you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, I think I was 179 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: quite young, like I was like twenty one, and I 180 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: think if you're twenty five, that's quite like a dramatic 181 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: age gap and things like that. Now, Oh my god, 182 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: yeah wow. Yeah. He showed me the picture of this guy. 183 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: I got set up with this guy like when I 184 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: was quite young by my friend Harriet, who was like 185 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: older than me. And then he showed me a picture 186 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: of this guy and the guy was looking amazing, really yeah, 187 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: really good, Like that's tragic. He looks amazing. 188 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: But could you ever go back to him? Do you 189 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: think maybe how old is he now? Then? Oh? 190 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: Will we like thirty one or something? 191 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: No? 192 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: No, no, sorry, like thirty four. I mean that's yeah, 193 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: he was really hot. I was twenty one or twenty 194 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: and he would have been like twenty five or twenty six, 195 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: so it's not actually that big an age gap. But 196 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: we went on one day and he was like, I 197 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: think she's a bit young for me, which is fair 198 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: like if one of my when I was twenty five 199 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: and my twenty five year old friends were going out 200 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: with like twenty year olds, I was kind of like, 201 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: that's I don't really get it. 202 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: Well, what do you chat about? 203 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it's just that gap early, like twenty to 204 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: twenty five. It's like there's quite a lot like that 205 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: you're going to be different. 206 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: Well, is that the difference of like playing Ring of 207 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: Fire before you go out and not playing Ring of 208 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: Fire before you go out? And that is really the difference. 209 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: Do you want to explain to everyone, just for some 210 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: people that might not know the game? 211 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: What Ring of Fire? Basically Ring of Fires? When you 212 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: get like a bunch of like straight virgins in the 213 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: room and they get cards and they like pour milk 214 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: into a glass and then pour vodka into it, and 215 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: then they all like drink that, and then they think 216 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: I think they sacrifice something that I'm joking. It's obviously 217 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: not the game, is it. 218 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 1: That you drink during the Johnny Cash song, No, that's rocks. 219 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: That also, Johnny Cash didn't sing Rocks. 220 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: He sang Ring of Fire. I thought it was that game, 221 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: but like like what Rocksanne was, but for the song 222 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: ring of Fire. 223 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: I mean we should play it anyway, we should play it. 224 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: And also what perfect we did? We do it with 225 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: spicy marks, because then it's another ring yes exactly. 226 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, yeah, because Dan and I famously after a 227 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: spicymong reader. We both have ring of fires as our faults. 228 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: Honestly sting. 229 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: So oh yeah, it's a lot, it's a lot, puckered 230 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: to the gods. Yeah, it's extra hot anyway. So you 231 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: know the phrase only boring people get bored. 232 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like there's no small parts, just small actors. 233 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So like I don't want to say that 234 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: it was like inherently boring because it makes me then 235 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: sound boring because I should have sound more interesting in it. 236 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: No, but I also disagreed there are small parts and. 237 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: There are boring people. 238 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but those people have the small parts. 239 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. He seemed so like chilled out and kind of 240 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: like like he'd never had any kind of dispute with 241 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: anyone in his life. That I asked him if he'd 242 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: ever gotten in a fight before. Do you ever get 243 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: really angry? 244 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: I do a little shameful. 245 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, this isn't a crowd moment. I was quite young, 246 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: how was at university and went on a university ski 247 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 3: trip with my girlfriends. I have no idea what we 248 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: were arguing about, but I just remember like walking along 249 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: the roade, like we were like shouting at each other, 250 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: and I was so angry, but I didn't know what 251 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: to do, so I, like I Fate, cried to like, right, 252 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: try and win the argument. 253 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: Right. 254 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: I didn't win the argument, and then I was like 255 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: Fate crying and like angry and right. 256 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say something so much 257 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: worse than that. I thought you're going to say you 258 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: pushed her off a cliff. 259 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 2: Or like you know, we both came out and scared. 260 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: That's good. You pretended to cry. That's just literally me 261 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, Like every every time I have an 262 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: argument that I'm not winning, I pretend to cry. That's 263 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: how it ends. I thought he was going to say 264 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: he like accidentally killed someone, like he had a fight 265 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: and it was man's laughter or something. 266 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: I do remember when I was fourteen, and you can't 267 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: judge me because I was in the closet, but I did. 268 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: She on this girl and then when she rang me, 269 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: I pretended that I was crying, but I was actually laughing, 270 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: and I was like, I was like, I'm so sorry. 271 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: I didn't mean it, but it just happened like she 272 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 2: thought I was crying, and then she tried to spend 273 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: this rumor that I was like this pussy ass bitch 274 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: for crying. It was funny. 275 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: But I always cry when I'm not winning a fight. 276 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: Like I always just burst into tears. 277 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: That's not attactic, I used, because actually I never lose 278 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: a fight. 279 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: No, but that's fine. 280 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: I often One time actually having a fight on a 281 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: school trip, I had a five of my friend Megan, 282 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: and we were on like the ferry from France or something, 283 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: and we were outside like reconciling after this big bust up, 284 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 2: and I spat off board and the wind blew it 285 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: back in her face, face, right in her face. That fact, 286 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: it was like a film. 287 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I once did that, but it 288 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,599 Speaker 1: was phlem I was in the front seat of a 289 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: car and I flamed out the window and it went 290 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: onto my friend's face. In the vaccine. 291 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: No, that's but we. 292 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: Weren't even in the fight. Then afterwards you were, oh, yeah, 293 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: I've never swim just since. 294 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 2: That woman, Judy Dench. Have you ever been in a 295 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: fist fight. 296 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: I've been in many, fista give me the best one. 297 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: It was like sixth form. There was a house party 298 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: in North London and a group of girls were chatting 299 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: shit about one of my friends and they were like 300 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: saying all this stuff about how she was a slot 301 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: at the party. 302 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: And this girl, Judy Dench. 303 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: Then we all got kicked out of the party because 304 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 1: the police came. So on this road in Finchley and 305 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: there was like hundreds of teenagers there and this girl 306 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: is across the road like chatting shit about my friends. 307 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: So I just walked across the road in the traffic 308 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: there was like hundreds of people watching, and just swung 309 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: for her. And then me and her got in this 310 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: like insane fight, like we were like battering each other, 311 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: and then my friends were trying to sort of half 312 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: break it up also get involved, and then Emily, she 313 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: had like loads of rings on and she got tangled 314 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: with one of the girls like her hair, So then 315 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: the fight got broken up. Harry like picked me up, 316 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: took me to the other side of the road and 317 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: I was like kicking and screaming. But then Emily, for 318 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: like twenty minutes, had to stand there like untangle her hair, 319 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: like this girl's hair off of her ring. 320 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: She's just like behind it, being like so any holidays 321 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: coming up, like give it like a full. 322 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: Na waiting for your A levels. 323 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: I have only only been in like one fight where 324 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: it's nothing like that. I just tried to steal a 325 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: mop from a gay club in Turkey and I was 326 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: running outside of them, mopping my hand and I thought 327 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: my friend was following me, but it was like the 328 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: owner and I turned around and he slapped me, and 329 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: then I hit him back as like a response, and 330 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: then he went to hit me back and I was like, 331 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: do you just want them up? And he was like yeah, 332 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: and I was like, take them up. 333 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: That's a perfect story. 334 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: And then I went and smoked on the beach and 335 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: was like, my life is such a mazing. 336 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: You come across really well in that. Sorry, I'll say no. 337 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, No you do. I'm mopped the floor of. 338 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: Him, Yeah you did. Because he had such a distinctive 339 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: like East London look, I knew he lived in East London, 340 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: like just from looking at him. And then I was like, 341 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: let me see if I can miss it meg Hare 342 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: and guess like exactly his postcode. But I got it wrong. 343 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm actually really good at being a psychic because I 344 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: just want to try Victoria Parts, Bethel Green, no London Pille, 345 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: Hackney Wick, no. 346 00:15:59,480 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: Claptain. 347 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: Oh that was gonna be the first thing I was 348 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: gonna say. 349 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: I was. 350 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: That was actually gonna be the first thing I was 351 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: gonna say. I'm very bad with these men. 352 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: More she would have gone for it, I guess you me, Yeah, 353 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: I go for it by Parliament Health. 354 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: Yes. Would you rather go on a really boring date 355 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: or go on a date with someone who's like really offensive? 356 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting. You know. I kind of feel like 357 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: I'd get more of a kick out of someone being 358 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: offensive because there's more to do, as in, like it's 359 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: more reactional than me having to like come up with 360 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: something to say. Do you know what I mean? 361 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 362 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean the thing is, it's like neither is desirable. 363 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: But there's something really really horrible about talking to someone 364 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: who is giving you nothing. 365 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's not really much you can do. 366 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: It's like, what I'm going to tell you how many 367 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: siblings I've got? 368 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: Are you someone who? If you're I'm sure you're not. 369 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: But I am actually this person Like if I'm in 370 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: a really boring conversation, I start bugging out and I'm like, 371 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: it's me, I'm boring. 372 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I've never experienced that personally or professionally, but I've. 373 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: Never experienced it professionally, thank you. 374 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: No, But I am. I just literally cannot sit in silence. 375 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: So then I'll start asking like mad questions, like what's 376 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: the biggest animal that you think you can kill with 377 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 2: your bare hands? 378 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: What is it? 379 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: What me? Personally? I think I could get a sheep? 380 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: I think I could get really think, okay, yeah you 381 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 2: are at all? Wait what do you think? 382 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: What about you? 383 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: No? 384 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: You what could I kill? I couldn't hurt any you bet? 385 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god? Are you mad? So you just spoke 386 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: up ragging some girl in northwest. 387 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: London, maybe like a like a girl from forts Math, 388 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: sixteen year old girl from forth, I could kill her. 389 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: And they're all animals, My god, my good. 390 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: No, like a North London girl with a crylic Now 391 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: it's like that's probably the limit. 392 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: No, but I mean I just start saying really like stupid, 393 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: I get that, or like if you can I really 394 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: even want to give like. 395 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: A boring date my interesting questions. 396 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 2: I always ask people if they could have sex with 397 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: any other or what animal they have sex? 398 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: Which would you have sex with? 399 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: Ah? 400 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: I don't know the way you phrased that, if you could, 401 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: like as though people want to, it's like if you had. 402 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: To, Yeah, but it's also me like checking checking them out. 403 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: It's like I don't want to have to date someone 404 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: that fox animals? Again? What I mean? This is that 405 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: third date at pets at Home? Why are we in 406 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: the guinea pig bit again? Like I don't know what's 407 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: going on. Wait, you brought me a gerbil? Where's it gone? 408 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: It's always in the ass? 409 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: Oh dam I'm. 410 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: Sorry, no way, no, but I know, but I don't 411 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: want to answer that question. I'm just saying that, like 412 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: I will start saying ship like that, and then it's 413 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: just like that how could this ever flow for me? 414 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: Because I can't I can't really remember if I did 415 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: this with him. But when I'm my go to like 416 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: date chat is to just talk about people's exes. Really, yeah, 417 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: I always ask them about their part relationships. It's a 418 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: good tell of like what someone's like. 419 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually so true. I just think sometimes I 420 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 2: don't know. I'm still the belief in the like with 421 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: the belief that like the first date isn't necessarily where 422 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: I talk about someone's exes. 423 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. I do do it quite a lot. 424 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: I mean I'm asking people what animal dead fox? Yeah, 425 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: he's intone, No. 426 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: I know what. We're both here singles. 427 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but one of us has a podcast where they're 428 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 2: finding love and everyone's just talking. 429 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: About one of them has a podcast to find love 430 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: and it's literally not even watching pain dry. That would 431 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: have been like so much more exciting. Like the most 432 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: interesting part of that day was me saying that the 433 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: dog had fired. Next time on twenty eight dates later, 434 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: So he's done a test to see what his kinks are. 435 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: And there are loads of words here. I don't know, 436 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: rigor exhibitionists. Sorry, what's a brat tamer? That sounds like 437 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: my type around me? 438 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: I'm a savage? You think he can hurt it? 439 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: Twenty eight Dates Later is produced by Novel for iHeartRadio. 440 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: For more from Novel, visit novel Dot Audio The series 441 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: is presented by me Grace Campbell with help from Roz 442 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: Pursu and Dan Whyde. The producer is Diggory Way. The 443 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: executive producer is Claire Broughton. Our editors are Mithillly Raw 444 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: and Max O'Brien. Production management from Cherie Houston and Charlotte Wall. 445 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: Willard Foxton is our creative director of Development.