1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm Annie Reese and I'm Lauren voc Obam, and today 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: we have another listener mail episode for you, the fourth edition. 4 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: I cannot wait to brainstorm titles for this one, because 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like there's a lot of famous sequels. 6 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Everybody knows the title three quels, you're getting a bit lower, 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: but there's still like a pretty of a lot of 8 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: them once you get to four, which is you know, 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: this is my m O for these listener mail episodes. Sure, yeah, 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: he's famous. Series four is a bit trickier, so I'm 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: excited you have fewer options. But the ones that are 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: out there I think are really gold. So uh oh yeah, 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: that's because you're you're in You're in serious B movie 14 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: territory at this juncture, I know, And that's that's what 15 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: gives me happiness. But also these letters, do you because 16 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: you all continue to send in such wonderful letters, And 17 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: in fact, after we put this episode together, we lay 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: them all out. I swear we received like ten morrows 19 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: Like those are all good too, and I am rest 20 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: assured they will get rid, but um yeah, it's it's 21 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: lovely and we really do appreciate it, oh so much. 22 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: So yeah, so uh yeah, Annie, do you want to start? Sure? 23 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: I will start with the letter from Jessica, who wrote, 24 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: I was just listening to your podcast on the Cuban 25 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: sandwich while eating my supper, which contained imitation crab. I 26 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: grew up in the Tampa Bay area, and believe it 27 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: or not, I never had a cubano in the fifteen 28 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: or so years that I lived there. What uh huh. 29 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: I've never been a big fan of Swiss cheese or 30 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: pickles on sandwichhees, so it sounded disgusting from me when 31 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: I moved to the area at age nine. I've since 32 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: realized that even though I may not like individual ingredients, 33 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: I sometimes like them in particular food items like cream, 34 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: cheese and cheesy sauces. However, I started keeping kosher in college, 35 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: and there's frankly no way to make a you in 36 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: the sandwich kosher alas I may never try a cubano. Likewise, 37 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: I never had a Philly cheese steak when I lived 38 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: outside of Philadelphia as a child, and will not be 39 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: able to now. On the point of keeping kosher, Kosher, 40 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: invitation crab is a thing many non kosher specific brands 41 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: of invitation crab may contain small amounts of crab juice 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: mixed in with the serremi, so they are a no go. 43 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: But in addition to Kosher invitation crab, manufacturers make and 44 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: sell kosher invitation shrimp and invitation lobster. Jess's invitation crab 45 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: tastes nothing like real crab. He tasts nothing like shrimp 46 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: or a lobster. In fact, they are just SerII pressed 47 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: into different shapes. The shapes also do not resemble actual 48 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: shrimps or a lobster. I don't really get the point 49 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: of it. At least that means I have backup options 50 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: when the kosher supermarket is out of imitation crab. I 51 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: love it. I love it. I have started, Yeah, I've 52 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: started looking for these Seremi products and just kind of 53 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: like enjoying that the shapes that they're pressed in, kind 54 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: of language on the bags. Oh yeah. The marketing is 55 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: always always aces, it's always like really interesting and beautiful. Yeah, 56 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: And I'm glad that they're kosher and that's something that 57 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: you can enjoy. Um. I am bummed that Noki banos 58 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: no fieling cheese takes sandwiches but the imitation Seremi products. Yeah, yeah, well, 59 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm thinking about it, and I'm like, 60 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure that if you wanted to go this route, 61 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: you could do it with um, with some kind of 62 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: faux meat product and some kind of vegan cheese product. 63 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: But I understand that that is like severely different from 64 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: but but I mean, but they are making some really 65 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: interesting plant based uh proteins these days. So I don't know, 66 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. And vegan cheese is um, it's improving. Yes, yes, 67 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of request to do something on 68 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: vegan cheese. Okay, yeah, oh yes. As as things that 69 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: there are options you you probably will never get the 70 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: quote unquote true experience. But again, as we always say, 71 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: you know, if you take something for what it is, 72 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: you could get something pretty good. Absolutely absolutely. Amanda wrote 73 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: as someone who has decided that me and alcohol are 74 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: just not friends, so I might as well stop drinking it, 75 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: I am very excited about this gradual movement towards good drinks. 76 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: I remember a few years ago my husband and I 77 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: attended a business convention in Vegas and at the fancy 78 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: dinner always put on every convention, This one was at 79 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: lagrata so good. I asked if they had anything good 80 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: that was non alcoholic, and was super pumped when the 81 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: waiter brought me something that was beautiful and fuzzy and 82 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: nuanced and not just full of mounds of sugar and delicious. 83 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: I even managed to start a small trend on my 84 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: end of the table among a few other business owners 85 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: who were not actually quite sure why they ordered alcohol, 86 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: and we're also pumped to realize that there was an alternative. 87 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: I was feeling much redeemed after the first thing I 88 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: did at this dinner was spill a large amount of 89 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: stuffed mushroom juice all over the front of my mostly 90 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: white dress. Oh I feel for you, especially since my 91 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: hubs and I tend to be the youngest ones at 92 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: these things. I think I was about twenty seven at 93 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: the time. Also, note, stuffed mushrooms are not a two 94 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: bite appy your kids wanting fancy drinks. Rant also reminded 95 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: me of a restaurant we have here in Canada called 96 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: Boston Pizza. I find a lot of the menu expensive 97 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: and not amazing, but what I do find very impressive 98 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: is the kids menu. Often you can get it free 99 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: with purchase of an adult meal, though once you add 100 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: the optional upgraded drink and upgraded dessert, it certainly gets 101 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: quite expensive. The four year old is always pretty stoked 102 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: about his Unicorn lemonade, though uniform lemonade, but I would 103 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: be stoked about that too. I'm stoked about it now. 104 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: I know. This email gave with a picture of the menu, 105 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: and I was everything I was reading, I was like, oh, 106 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: as a kid, hell yeah. I also love that it's 107 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: called Boston Pizza and Canada. Um. Yeah, that Boston isn't 108 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: necessarily known for its pizza here in the United States, 109 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: Like there are two cities known for pizza, and those 110 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: are Chicago and New York, and Boston is not. No, 111 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: but I am very fond of it. In facts. Yes, yeah, 112 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah. Hardcore relate to accidentally spilling something all 113 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: of yourself at a work event. I have done it 114 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: several times, and especially if you're wearing something. This is 115 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: part of why I don't wear pale colored clothes very often, 116 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: is because it is guaranteed that if I do, I 117 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: will spill something on it. Like if I'm wearing black, 118 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm probably fine. Yeah, I know joke. I have a 119 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: set of backup clothes at her office at work that 120 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: I would just leave there because I'm quite accident prone 121 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: and staying prone. So we hear you so much, yes, 122 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 1: Keana Route. I have a whole bunch of little stories 123 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: of him meaning to write in about Plus, I found 124 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: a very entertaining article about a fellow I thought you 125 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: might appreciate. There was a fellow in the eighteen hundreds 126 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: who had an amazing sense of humor. His name was 127 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: Grima de la Rainier. He really didn't get along with 128 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: his family as a youngster, so when they went out 129 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: of town, he threw a dinner party. He forced his 130 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: guest to answer a question, were they there to see 131 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: Monsieur de la Regnier quote the defender of the people 132 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: are the other Monsieur de the Rainier the oppressor of 133 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: the people. The latter answer was referring to his father. 134 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: The guests who answered correctly got to enjoy the meal, 135 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: complete with liquor, coffee and a magic show, all the 136 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: while surrounded by funeral decorations think coffins and the like. 137 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: The other guests who answered incorrectly refers to stay and washed. 138 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: The other guests eat with only biscuits to eat. This 139 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: wasn't his last dinner party either. At one he served 140 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: all black food. At another, he had a pig dressed 141 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: in his father's clothes sitting in his father's chair. O snap. 142 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: After his parents had had enough of him, they kicked 143 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: him out to live at a monastery. Eventually he became 144 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: one of the earliest food critics. His last question mark 145 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: dinner party consisted of inviting his friends to his fake funeral, 146 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: which started during meal time, to see who is real 147 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: friends were. If they were willing to skip dinner, they 148 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: must be as true friends. I like this guy. I 149 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: think I might have to start having my dinner guest 150 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: answer random food fact related questions to be allowed to eat. 151 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: Uh yes, um yeah. This is a dude that I 152 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: ran across in our research about French cuisine and I 153 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: just made a little mental bookmark, like like this weird, 154 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: weird o goth dude is definitely with some someone we 155 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: need to come back to. But but anyway, yes um uh. 156 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: Kiana continued in podcast related stories, I recently re listened 157 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: to the Mocktails episode and can't believe I didn't write 158 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: in the first time. Growing at my parents owned a 159 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: pharmacy Every Christmas we would have a party for all 160 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: the staff members. It was a real pain for my 161 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: sister and I when we were younger, because we didn't 162 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: like hanging out with all the quote old people that 163 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: worked at the store. After a few years, when I 164 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: was around ten and my sister was eight, we were 165 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: allowed to invite one friend each well. On this particular night, 166 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: my sister and her friend discovered Shirley Temples and there 167 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: was no limit on the number of non alcoholic drinks 168 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: we could order. Oh no. During that party, my sister, 169 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: her friend, my friend, and another staff member's daughter drank 170 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: twenty three Shirley Temples. What I think, I had one, 171 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: so I'm not entirely blameless. But after that, my parents 172 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: decided that there was a drink limit up to Shirley 173 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: Simples for person. To this day, I still have no 174 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: idea how they managed to do it. Oh my gosh. Also, 175 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: it was a bit frustrated with your episode on Finnel, 176 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: mainly because this the week before it came out, I 177 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: had spent two hours harvesting half of my finnel crop. 178 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: Did you know it takes forever to pick, clean, strip, chop, 179 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: and freeze finnel? Friends and the fine little pieces get 180 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: stuck everywhere, so you were constantly washing your hands with 181 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: the stuff. It was a reminder of my long, tragic afternoon, 182 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: with the reminder that I still had to harvest the 183 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: rest of it. My second to last story involves the marshmallow, 184 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: another classic I forgot to write in about. In my 185 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: young adult days, my group of friends often had camp 186 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: fires as a way to hang out. We live in 187 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: a small town with no movies or malls or anything 188 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: indoor to do. For some reason, my cousin decided to 189 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: roast a marshmallow and then pour cream soda on it. 190 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: Don't ask me why, I don't understand the minds of 191 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: twenty year old males. In any case, it turned out 192 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: to be quite tasty, and it was talked about for 193 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: months after. So for Christmas, I decided to make the 194 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: group cream soda flavored marshmallows a recipe for marshmallows and 195 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: just substituted the water amount with cream soda. They were amazing. 196 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: I haven't done it since, but the looks on their 197 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: faces when they realized what they were eating was priceless. 198 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: I keep meaning to try it with other flavors of 199 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: pop are juice, but haven't gotten around to it. And 200 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: please don't be scared of making them. They really are 201 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: easy and fun to make. Finally, a pineapple story. One 202 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: of the first facts I annoyed my family and friends 203 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: with was from the Pineapple episode. I love that people 204 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: just carried one around at parties. Flashboard to Christmas of 205 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: twenty Night Team. When I hosted Christmas Day lunch at 206 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: my house, my mom walked in and handed me a 207 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: bag of ingredients for the meal, and inside was a pineapple. 208 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: She brought it to my party just to make me smile. 209 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: We didn't eat it, it just sat there on the 210 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: table as we ate our meal. It was magnificent. I 211 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: would have carried it around with me, but I needed 212 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: my hands and arms for you to make the meal. 213 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Awesome, yes, and those marshallows sounds so great, right? Yeah? 214 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I I need to, man, it has been 215 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: so long since I've made marshmallows, and I really need to. Yeah. Projects, projects, okay, 216 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: Bobby wrote, I have written in before, but my name 217 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: is Bobby and I am a grad student. I listened 218 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: to your Mint and Mohito episodes while working and heard 219 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: about one of your allergies to mint. Well, I love mint. 220 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: I have to say. You can replace the mint with basil, 221 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: and it's delicious in a mohito. But on to the 222 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: drink I invented based on my love of basil and mint. 223 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: I call it the vodka salad. I only know the 224 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: vague picture sized recipe. A bunch of basil, a bunch 225 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: of mint, the zest of one lime, about twenty ounces 226 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: of homemade cucumber water, a bottle of soda water, one 227 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: can of good ginger beer not too sweet, more spicy, 228 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: and as much vodka as you would like. Add ice 229 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: to the picture too. Muddle both the basil and mint 230 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: with some sugar. It's important for the drink to keep 231 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: the mint, cucumber slices, rounds with skin, and basil leaves 232 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: in the drink so you can get your greens. They 233 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: taste great soaked in all the vodka and whatnot. My 234 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: friends really like it because it can get you drunk 235 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: while being really refreshing. Great in the New Mexican heat 236 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: herby not too sweet. If you want to drink your salad, 237 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: this is pretty good. Make this fresh and cold, don't 238 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: let it sit too long. Also, make the cucumber water, 239 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: like two to three hours beforehand. You don't want the 240 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: water to cucumber e. I hope people try it and 241 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: like it sounds good to me. It does sound so refreshing. 242 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't you know. I don't put enough basil in drinks, 243 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: and it's always so good when it's in there. Oh, 244 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: I agree, And in fact, um so, I have some 245 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: that I grow and I'm pretty sure that I grow 246 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: it in a way that makes it extra bitter. And 247 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm very sorry to my poor plant, thank you for surviving. 248 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: But I actually really like it, and I started putting 249 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: it in. I like to do grapefruit juice, basil, um 250 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: pepper and gin. Oh yeah, oh sure, yeah yeah. There's 251 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: one that um that Leon's down in Decator makes um 252 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: Decatur Georgia and uh and they call it the four 253 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: oh four And it's just like gin and lemon and 254 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: basil and maybe some splashes soda and it's just so 255 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: simple and lovely and perfect. Yes. And also I love 256 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: the name of vodka salad because I would be expecting 257 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: like a blood mary and this is very right and 258 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: I like it. I'm also glad that other people also 259 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: eat the garnishes. Out of everything because I'm like, it 260 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: comes with a drink and I love, I love, I 261 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: just I'd just eat mint out of glasses constantly. So yeah, 262 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm the same. I'm the same. Well, we do have 263 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: some moral listener mail for you. We do, but first 264 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: we've got a quick break for a word from our 265 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: sponsor and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you, 266 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: Rachel wrote. My name is Rachel Ray. Sorry not that 267 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: Rachel Ray and I have a long time listener to 268 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: your podcast and amateur food enthusiasts slash Home Baker. Y'all 269 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: have been a godsend during a long hours of traveling 270 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: up and down the East Coast planning my wedding and 271 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: then traveling with my now husband as we have moved 272 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: around to his various duty stations as a military officer. 273 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: Most recently, I was listening to your macaron episode and 274 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: I realized that I finally had a reason to email 275 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: you guys. Yes, my husband and I were first introduced 276 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: to macrons while living in San Antonio for a few 277 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: months while my husband did some military training at Fort 278 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: sam Houston. The city's downtown Pearl district had an amazing 279 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: shop called Bakery Lorne that specialized in patisserie and vignasurie. 280 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: On one of our Sunday trips, we stopped in to 281 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: find the most delightful coffee pastries and most importantly, a 282 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: beautiful display of colorful macaron one bind if they're earl 283 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: gray macaron and we were lost. I think we could 284 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: have spent our entire monthly food budget on just those 285 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: delicate almond meringue alone, and were regularly made trips downtown 286 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: just for them. We love them so much that as 287 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: we moved on to our next ud station in Maryland 288 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: a few months later, our very last stop out of 289 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: the city was that little bakery for the largest box 290 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: of macarons we could realistically buy. I even received a 291 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: traffic violation letter some months later from where I had 292 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: apparently run straight through red light my haste to get 293 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: to the macarl hashtag sorry not sorry, Oh my gosh flashcard. 294 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: A few months later, and I was working as an 295 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: ear nurse in Maryland, I decided to take a part 296 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: time job as a chef's assistant at a recreational teaching 297 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: kitchen in downtown Baltimore as a fun way to learn 298 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: more about food and cooking. They offer menu based and 299 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: technique classes, one of them being macaron. I didn't know 300 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: much about baking macarons at the time, outside from what 301 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: can be gleaned from quote repeatedly binge watching my husband's 302 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: words the Great British Bake Off. With luck, I was 303 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: able to get myself edul to on the weekend at 304 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: macro own class, and I spoke to the pastry shift 305 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: of Horrhand, who went out of her way to share 306 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: with me some of her tips and tricks to full 307 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: proof macaron. I went home that afternoon, stopping at the 308 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: supermarket on my drive back, and sequestered myself in my 309 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: tiny apartment kitchen the next morning to make some macarons 310 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: for better or worse, and amazingly it works. It quickly 311 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: became my new favorite making project, and I made batch 312 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: after batch with consistently good results using her advice, much 313 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: to the delight of my husband and night shift hospital colleagues. 314 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: No one can shotgun bake goods like a night That's true, 315 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: that is, that is factually accurate. I know this from experience. 316 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: My first boyfriend was a night shift nurse. Um anyway, 317 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: okay uh, she continues, um to make a long story short, 318 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: too late. That was her. Um, I wanted to impart 319 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: to you the macarrel making wizardry that was passed on 320 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: to me so that you two can have these delicate, 321 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: crispy cookies at home. This is what I have learned. First, 322 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: French macarons are the way to go. According to my 323 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: pastry chef source and my own experience. You can achieve 324 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: consistently good results with the French meringue method by slowly 325 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 1: adding spoonfuls of granulated sugar to your beating egg whites. 326 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: And honestly, how many home bakers have the time or 327 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: inclination to faff around boiling then steadily pouring molten hot 328 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: sugar into a stand mixer full of frothy egg whites. 329 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: Not this home baker, at least with your first try. 330 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: Keep it simple, keep it French. Also, molten hot sugar 331 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: danger zune anyway, Yeah, yeah, that's side note. Back to 332 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: her number two, UM, don't add a crazy amount of 333 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: liquid food coloring. Adding liquid to the stiff meringue can 334 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: alter the consistency of your batter and create macaron shells 335 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: that's spread out instead of rising up. She advised investing 336 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: in a highly pigmented gel color or concentrated liquid food 337 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: coloring that doesn't require a ton of drops for your 338 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: desired color. Three, don't be afraid to tap that pan 339 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: after you pipe your macaron shells. You're usually instructed to 340 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: gently tap the pan against your counter to dispel any 341 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: large air pockets that can create an uneven texture in 342 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: your final product, or worse, come blasting through the surface 343 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: of your cookies like some kind of ticking sugar time bomb. 344 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: While she did not advocate for beating the hell out 345 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: of it, she did advise that when tapping your pan, 346 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: be firm and level. And now, most importantly, number four, 347 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: it's all about the micronage. And I hope I'm saying 348 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: that right. Um So, the soft and gentle folding of meringue, um, 349 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: almond flower and confectioner sugar is a huge, if not 350 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: the main, factor in creating the correct batter, consistency, and 351 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: technically proficient macarons. Now, you're often told to fold the 352 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: batter until it resembles molten lava, because that's not vague 353 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: at all. But the big secret to macaron batter was 354 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: agree is the Figure eight test. When testing your batter 355 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: for the correct consistency. Pick up a scoop of your 356 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: batter with your spatula and allow it to trail off 357 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: the spatula and into your bowl, like if you're testing 358 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: shoe pastry. That is c h o u X. Now 359 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: it sounds funny out loud when you don't speak French. Anyway, Okay, 360 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: here we go. UM, as it trails, attempt to draw 361 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: a figure eight with a steady stream of batter that 362 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: does not break. Before the figure eight is completed. You 363 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: should be able to see the figure eight sitting on 364 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: top of the remaining batter for about ten to fifteen 365 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: seconds afterward. If you have passed this test, stop micronag ing. Now, 366 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: micronag ing, I've already forgotten anyway, Um. This test ensures 367 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: that your batter is fully incorporated without completely folding out 368 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: all of the air needed to raise your macaron shells 369 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: during baking. I hope these tips and tricks help you 370 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: as much as they have helped me, and I implore 371 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: you Annie to try making them again. As you know, 372 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: they are amazingly versatile when it comes to flavors, and 373 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: you can tailor them to almost anything you could ever want, 374 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: and they are huge show stoppers with friends and family 375 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: if they ever managed to make their way out of 376 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: your home. Personally, for every three homemade batches in my macaron's, 377 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: only one of them ever really get past my husband 378 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: and me. This is excellent. Oh that is that's great. Yeah, 379 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: thank you so much for the tips, Thanks for the 380 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: inspiration and the belief in me. Oh yeah yeah. Sorry 381 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: about the mangling of French, but you know always. Um, 382 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: I love that you got a traffic violation for them. 383 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sad that you got one, but that's 384 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: pretty funny little reason you got one. Yeah. I think 385 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: that's worthy. Yeah yeah, oh yeah. I mean as far 386 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: as traffic violations go, that's solid, solid reason to get one. 387 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: And I also want to thank you for bringing back 388 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: this memory. I used to be really big into tubing 389 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: um oh with the two pulled behind a boat, not 390 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: the like relaxing on a river kind like okay, high 391 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: adrenaline version. My dad used to do this move called 392 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: the figure eight where he would he would sling shot 393 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: you in one circle and then in another circle, and 394 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: then he would drive you straight down in the middle 395 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: and you were going to fall off. You could survive 396 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: the figure eight. That was a successful day. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, 397 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: I've never I only recently, like within the past like 398 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: four years or so. I guess, um have ever been 399 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: on like a freshwater lake. Um so, so I'm new 400 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: to that entire thing. But well, word to the wise, 401 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: word of the wist Sluren the figure eight. Oh, I 402 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: mean the I mean, the key is you need to 403 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm doing this our motion that no one can see. 404 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: I was really big and achieving, and I had like 405 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: these eight rules that you have to do. Anyway, You're 406 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: probably gonna fall off, but there is a way to 407 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: combat it. But it's off, all right, all right. Well, 408 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: if we ever do videos again, we'll have to have 409 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: like Annie's voting I know Joe video that I made 410 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: when I was like in high school about how to 411 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: survive you. Yeah. Yes, But anyway, back to this food 412 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: related podcast we have, Linda wrote, thank you for your 413 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: great show. I used to enjoy it on my exactly 414 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: one episode long commutes to work, and now my son 415 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: and I enjoyed together on the couch during my maternity 416 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: leave while he chugs this morning bottle. However, and listening 417 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: to your Hannibal episode, I had to write in to 418 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: point out an often occurring gaff has become a pet 419 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: peeve of mine. Hannibal Elector was a psychiatrist not a psychologist. 420 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: Oh yep, yep, that's my bad. Psychiatrists are m d s. 421 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: You can prescribe medications and treat a much broader scope 422 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: of mental illnesses, while psychologists are PhD s. You can, 423 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: but nevertheless provide valuable services in counseling and mistering mini 424 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: diagnostic test that psychiatrists are not trained in. As a psychiatrist, 425 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: it can be taxing at times to repeatedly explain the 426 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: difference to patients and the general public. It's unfortunate nomenclature, 427 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: for sure, but just wanted to point it out. Thank you, Yeah, absolutely, 428 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: thank you. Uh. Corrections, especially technical corrections are always always 429 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: always welcome on the show. Um I and I feel 430 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: like I feel like I made the mistake because, especially 431 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: in the show, Hannibal, Dr. Lecter, and Um the the 432 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: other main character have a much more psychology related relationship 433 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: than a psychiatry related relationship. Um. They're they're talking, they're 434 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: talking more about the soft science e bits than the 435 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: hard science subits. Um. And that's that's where my lines 436 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: of association lie as a lay person. But yeah, so 437 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. And and also just to I love 438 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: how many people have written in about Hannibal that episode. 439 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: And I love how many people have shared like really 440 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: gruesome stories that they've heard about, like real life cannibal. 441 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: Oh all right, yeah, Cannibalism episode. Sure to come, sure 442 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: to come, Sure to you come, So be on the 443 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: lookout excited to the question mark for that. But in 444 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: the meantime, we have even more listener mail to share 445 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: with you. But first we've got one more quick break 446 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank 447 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: you sponsor. Yes, thank you, Amy wrote Rice Arroni. Since 448 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: I and she's got a bulleted list here or a 449 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: numbered list rather one, Rice Arroni, since I reduced grocery 450 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: shopping frequency, I started to save your new episodes for 451 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: the day before shopping. I always add the show topic 452 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: into my show popping list. It will be hard for 453 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: me to have a sudden craving for an item inspired 454 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: by your show then wait for another two weeks to 455 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: get it. Holy feel you. My roommate also noticed your 456 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: influence on my food choice last week when I had 457 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: ry Serroni past Roni garlic an olive oil Vermic Shelley. 458 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: To be exact, she asked if ry Serrouni was in 459 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: the show recently um to pasteur. This book, Microbe Hunters 460 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: has two chapters about pasteur. In case Annie's moomb is 461 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: still interested in this topic, I've read a couple of chapters. 462 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: It's a wonderful book with archaic vocabularies. Three to Annie 463 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: about Captain America too on movie Crash Cap two is 464 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: the first m c U movie I watched, my favorite 465 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: one and the most rewatched one. Your discussion with Chuck 466 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: offered so much insight which I could not ever decipher 467 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: by simply rewatching it. Annie in the costume is awesome, 468 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: great talk. Thank you. Hard agree about all of that. 469 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: If you ever to know anything about Marvel's cinematic universe, 470 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: Annie is absolutely the one to go to. Um Also, yes, 471 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: your Bucky arm is just legendary. Legendary um uh. For Reese, 472 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: I remember to the being a long lost heiress fantasy 473 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: from the peanut Butter episode. A friend told me the 474 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: egg shaped one has the best quality because the manufacturer 475 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: uses the best ingredients for that bath. I had no clue, 476 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: and then your show solved the mystery. It has the 477 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: highest weight ratio of peanut butter among all shapes. I 478 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: love that. I love that this is legit. Someone noticed it, 479 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: but they were They're like, it's clearly the best, but 480 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why, and then and then urban legends 481 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: about why it's the best. This is all great. Yes, absolutely, 482 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: and uh I I do think Amy that you are 483 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: a genius for waiting for the new episodes before you 484 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: go shopping. Right. I work on this show and I 485 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: make that mistake often, So now I rethink my grocery 486 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: shopping list and time. I just very very very clever. 487 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: Heck Morgan wrote, I just finished listening to your cream 488 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: Cheese episode, and the conversation that y'all had was so 489 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: relatable to my life that I had right in the 490 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: first thing that kind of ring a bells when you 491 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: were talking about the no Chatel cheese, And it was 492 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: weird because at work we have a sister site no 493 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: Chatel that we converse with frequently, and I had no 494 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: idea that there was a cheese that was the quote 495 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: Champagne trademark likeness. So I thought that was cool. I 496 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: have no idea if I've had the actual nou chatel 497 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: cheese or cream cheese is the first, but now I 498 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: kind of want to try. The second thing was a 499 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: flashback of when I listened to the Gashapod episode relating 500 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: to bagels, cream cheese, and locks. When that episode came out, 501 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: I was in my first trimester of pregnancy, and my goodness, 502 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: my body fully rejected your advice of always be a vegetable. 503 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: I literally couldn't stand the thought, smell, or site of 504 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: a vegetable for a few months and found no appetite 505 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: for anything except things covered in cheese, macaroni and cheese, 506 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: grilled cheese, personal pizzas, hamburgers, et cetera. So when I 507 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: listened to this episode, I got my first pregnancy craving 508 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: a jalapeno and cheese bagel with a generous amount of 509 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: cream cheese. Side note to the only food that made 510 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: me stick during pregnancy was broccoli and cauliflower. It was 511 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: sad because for my entire pregnancy, my normal at work 512 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: staples I couldn't eat. Needless to say, for the rest 513 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: of the pregnancy, bagels and cream cheese was a regular 514 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: staple and I followed the rule. An old friend from 515 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: high school went by. If you can taste the bagel, 516 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 1: you didn't add enough cream cheese. I love hal bet, 517 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: your poppers with savory cream cheese. I love cheesecake and 518 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: castroles and cream cheese. It's just amazing and a versatile food. 519 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: Onto my last point, my husband is a good cook 520 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: and a good baker and loves food. He's always trying 521 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: to find new recipes to make. But the famous recipes 522 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: that he's been lauded for in my family has been 523 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: his cheese cakes. We got married, I tell my friends 524 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: and family that I don't go hungry with him anyways. 525 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: The first Thanksgiving that he spent with my family while 526 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: we were engaged, my husband made the first recipe that 527 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: you perfected, a chocolate moose cheesecake found on all recipes. 528 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: The secret was the crust was made with Trader Joe's 529 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: cookies instead of Oreo, so it wasn't too sweet. When 530 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: the desired started to get passed around, my entire family 531 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: was in love with him because of the cheesecake. Now, 532 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: to put this accomplishment into perspective, I spent my entire 533 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: life with these family members with Thanksgivings and Christmas is Easters, etcetera. 534 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: And I have always felt like the odd man out 535 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: because there were a lot of things that I didn't 536 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: have in common with them. But after one cheesecake, all 537 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: these family members were one hundred percent, excepting of my 538 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: husband and my own flesh and blood cousins, not the 539 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: ones by marriage we're asking to hang out with my husband. 540 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: I guess the saying is true. A way to a 541 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: person's heart is through their stomach, and I guess that's 542 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: why everyone loves my husband. At first, I was really 543 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: mad about it, but enough time has passed where it's 544 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: now become a funny family joke. She continues another anecdote 545 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: in regards to my husband's cheesecake. The first summer that 546 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: my husband and I were in our house after we 547 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: got married, my aunt, who normally hosts holidays, said she 548 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: was throwing an anniversary party for her marriage and the 549 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: marriage of her brother and sister in law. It was 550 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: a huge party that basically was like my wedding reception, 551 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: the same decor and design and everything, and my aunt 552 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: asked my husband to make the cheesecake. Knowing how big 553 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: this party was going to be, my husband made too 554 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: fast forward to dessert time, my aunt had a friend 555 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: help her get the first cheesecake ready. I'm standing in 556 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: the kitchen watching the friend put the cheesecake on a 557 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: ceramic pie stand with the with the metal cake pan 558 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: bottom still on the cheesecake crust. The friend proceeded to 559 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: lift the pie stand and start walking out of the kitchen, 560 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: where the cake fell face flat onto the floor. I 561 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: don't remember saying this, but my husband tells me that 562 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: I said loudly, You've got to be thin kidding me. 563 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 1: Then said friend proceeded to walk right into a section 564 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: of the floor where the cheesecake was still there, and 565 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: slip and catch yourself on the kitchen island with a 566 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: large knife sticking up really close to her face. Oh oh, 567 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: I've seen too many horror movies. Okay, um, she continues, thankfully. 568 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: My husband went to get the second cheesecake, and everyone 569 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: cheered and proceeded to offer my husband jobs at baking cheesecakes. 570 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: He even got a marriage proposal from another cousin of mine. 571 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: Are you sure you still want to be married to him? 572 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: Because I'll marry him? After she had one taste of 573 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: his cheesecake. I know, I really looked out with a 574 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: good guy this. I mean, I love this so much 575 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: and it is true, like cheesecake will will win some 576 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: folks over you bring a good cheesecake. Oh yeah, I 577 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: love when you bring a dessert. It's good enough that 578 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: that person sort of becomes a legend at the party. Huh. Yeah, 579 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: who made the thing? And yeah, how could you have 580 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: done it? And I love it. Glad he had a 581 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: backup cheesecake. Very glad your friend didn't. That would have 582 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: been a horror movie twist. Yes, Oh heck, that got 583 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: my heart rate up. Just just yeah. And I knew 584 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: it was okay because I mean, clearly you wouldn't be 585 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: writing in about the small story if it hadn't been. 586 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: It was a roller coaster because first cheesecake was lost, 587 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: and then there was something I've involved you indeed, um 588 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, thanks to everyone who's been sending in cheesecake recipes. 589 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: That's always appreciated. Oh yeah, And finally, Josh wrote, I 590 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: don't know about others, but the Miss Tree ghost noise 591 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: at the end of the Reese's episode when we were 592 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: trying to get to the bottom of oh um, it 593 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: sounded just like the sing song ghost noises. Gina Davis 594 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: was making in fiel juice, so when they were wearing 595 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: the bed sheets. It's also my favorite go to ghost noise. 596 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: So okay, that's in the ring. Possibly possibly, Yeah, trying 597 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of this popularity of the 598 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: ghost sound, Yeah, I think that's a solid injury into 599 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: what the possibilities for sure. Yeah, yeah, why why why 600 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: it's so popular? Um? You know, yeah, but but I yeah, 601 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: I just we we really need to really need to 602 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: do the research on this one. We need to do 603 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: like a true crime episode where we just trace the 604 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: history of that sound. Yeah. That's clearly what the world 605 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: needs right now. It's the best use of our time, 606 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: right absolutely. And I you know, I I invite y'all 607 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: to argue with us. Yeah, I do too. Um and 608 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: if you like wrap up notes, Thanks to everyone who 609 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: wrote in about the Reese's robot door. Uh, after we 610 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 1: did our Reese's episode, I swear it was right after 611 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: we put it out there her She's Reese's announced that 612 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: there was going to be a robotic door that dispensed 613 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: candy for for kids. Um. It was very It was 614 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: both very cool and kind of if you haven't seen, 615 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: it was just like this big orange door that moved 616 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: by itself. And thanks to you everyone who wrote in 617 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: about listening to our our episodes Lauren and I did 618 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: on Thirteen Days of Halloween the podcast. 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