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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. We'll see if

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Speaker 1: I can avoid an epic collapse here over the next

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Speaker 1: all the best laid plans can go to hell in

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Speaker 1: against the Huskies. We got the Roughnecks and Renegades ready

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Speaker 1: to go in the UFL. We got mann City and

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Speaker 1: man you, I mean, all these things going on.

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Speaker 2: The Manchester of Darby. Is that my good accent? Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much, Mike. If you do collapse, the good

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Speaker 2: thing is is for nine tenths of the show you're

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Speaker 2: going to be amazing. It's just that last tenth that

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Speaker 2: it will completely fall apart.

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Speaker 1: But then I'm gonna remember it forever. Dave when I

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Speaker 1: have those moments, Yes, you know, because I've had them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, certainly we can check the tape. I've been

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Speaker 1: doing this long enough that you could find those moments

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Speaker 1: where it's just it just spirals for whatever reason. Either

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Speaker 1: someone's tapped out of talking about a subject, or heated

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Speaker 1: arguments or technical difficulties, you name it, and then it

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Speaker 1: sticks with you and you carry that the next day.

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Speaker 1: And in this case, as we're talking about obliquely the

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Speaker 1: final four epic meltdown of the Duke Blue Devils, or conversely,

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Speaker 1: the Houston Cougar's coming in saying hey, I'm taking your money.

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Speaker 1: It's something that will live in infamy forever.

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Speaker 2: That's the interesting part about it, because I think it's

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Speaker 2: Houston saying we aren't going anywhere for a while, and

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Speaker 2: that's holding Duke without the field goal for basically the

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Speaker 2: final quarter of the NASH semifinal last night. But Mike,

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Speaker 2: when you have a nine point lead, like you do

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Speaker 2: with two minutes left, when you have a six point

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Speaker 2: lead with thirty four seconds left, those are leads that

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Speaker 2: you have to take care of. And as we've seen

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Speaker 2: in this tournament, whether it be Arkansas against Texas, Tech

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech against Florida and now we see Duke against

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Speaker 2: Houston last night, No lead is safe. I was at

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Speaker 2: the point Mike where I I had moved on, not

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Speaker 2: because I didn't think Houston could do it, but there

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Speaker 2: really wasn't a point where I thought in the game,

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Speaker 2: oh boy, maybe the Cougars have something. And at some

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Speaker 2: point I thought Duke was going to hit a shot

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Speaker 2: Cooper Flake did put him up nine, and thought that's

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Speaker 2: the bucket that they needed, That's the one to kind

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Speaker 2: of break the will. And boy was I wrong?

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Speaker 1: Just all throughout. One of the things we talked about

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Speaker 1: a lot, particularly on Friday show Jason Smith and I

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Speaker 1: in our spot, and I know you would have talked

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Speaker 1: about it doing shows, either with Doug or a Monsei

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Speaker 1: or who you were working with this Weekdan, is you

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Speaker 1: being served for Duke?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: That that just you circled it off to the side,

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Speaker 1: guys aren't babes in the woods, right, even though they

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Speaker 1: haven't had a lot of close games, They're all very

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Speaker 1: decorated end of high school into Duke and through forty games.

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Speaker 1: Even if you haven't had a lot of these scenarios

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Speaker 1: because you've won a lot of blowouts, that you're a

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Speaker 1: talented enough squad, and giving Shier credit given his playing days,

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Speaker 1: his come up as a coach and into this moment.

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Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, he's got coach K who

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Speaker 1: is just a shadow all season long. And now you

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Speaker 1: ninety seven times between him and Ken Jeong. I thought

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Speaker 2: I think they should have done just a separate coach

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Speaker 1: Well let's see how let's see the snarls on his

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Speaker 2: What sitt all coach K all game and we.

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Speaker 1: that I'm the thirtieth name called in the NBA, right,

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Speaker 1: because for years that's all it was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: I've got a draft evaluation from twenty seven to sixty

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Speaker 1: It's like, wait, I could stay here and make a

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Speaker 1: at West Virginia coach Lee's right, so trying to figure

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Speaker 1: I heard from a reliable guy, and the guy I

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Speaker 1: meaning top eight, you're at a half a million dollars minimum. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: right now, that's where the money is, right. So, and

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Speaker 1: then obviously escalator based on program availability and how good

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Speaker 1: And we saw that with Houston. I mean a bunch

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Speaker 2: I think that Calvin Samson also was preaching culture after

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Speaker 2: the win. Mike in saying like this is these guys,

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Speaker 2: don't give up this group, and you can build that

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Speaker 2: no doubt about that. I don't know if culture killed

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Speaker 2: Duke last night, but a lack of guard play. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you're Florida in that situation and you're like, let's

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Speaker 2: just get the ball to Walter Clayton, Let's just do

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Speaker 2: that and it done. Here on the other side inbounding

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Speaker 2: Duke's trying to imbound to Cooper Flag like that's like

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Speaker 2: that's their best option to imbound in that situation. And

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Speaker 2: I thought it was pointed out well that even with

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Speaker 2: think that's a very fair point in how to react.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't they couldn't get the inbound they couldn't inbound

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Speaker 1: And that was it, right they that was painful to

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Speaker 1: watch those last few inbounds plays where like, all right,

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Speaker 1: getting lazy pass towards them, towards your own basket. Yes, wait,

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Speaker 1: that that was the thing to me. It's like, all right,

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, there's there's some leeway given, but you

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Speaker 2: think that that's an interesting point right there, because I

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Speaker 2: think it goes back to the Cooper flag over the

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Speaker 2: backfall of what do you call in that scenario and

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Speaker 2: what don't you call? And if you go on social media,

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Speaker 2: it's a mixed reaction to how it plays out. But

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Speaker 2: that call at that point, and I made a list

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Speaker 2: of five points of the game that I thought were enormous.

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Speaker 1: I've got half a page of notes I called.

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Speaker 2: I could not I could not remove this is what

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Speaker 2: this is what I've got. Gay, I thought, uh, Kankainepple's

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Speaker 2: misshot when they're up six with forty seconds to go

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Speaker 2: would have sealed the deal. You go up eight at

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Speaker 2: that point, forty seven seconds left, sixty nine to sixty one.

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Speaker 2: Houston's really hard pressed to get back in it. But

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Speaker 2: Houston got to stop at that point. There was also

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Speaker 2: a point when it was sixty seven to sixty four.

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Speaker 2: Talking about the inbounds, Houston gets a steal. In that scenario,

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Speaker 2: they quickly run out for three and miss it, but

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Speaker 2: they get the put back dunk, so there's still like

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Speaker 2: there's you're now within one. You know they can't imbound it,

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Speaker 2: and you actually have momentum because the dunk was pretty inspiring.

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Speaker 2: I thought that that was a huge play in the game,

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Speaker 2: and again it stems off of the inbounds. Tyres Proctor

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Speaker 2: missing his free throws at twenty seconds left was the

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Speaker 2: third biggest spot. I felt, what sixty percent free throw

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Speaker 2: So there again it goes to late game situations and

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Speaker 2: not getting the ball in the hands of the players

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Speaker 2: free throws.

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Speaker 1: Fifty nine career free throw shooter.

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Speaker 2: In a in a cavernous, you know, stadium, with the

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Speaker 2: and he makes both. Like I thought, best case scenario

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Speaker 2: those two free throws, which I don't think we're talking

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Speaker 2: enough about. But the top point is the over the

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Speaker 2: back call on Cooper flag and the reason why it's

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Speaker 2: so important and it was off the Proctor free throw

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Speaker 2: is you gave Houston an opportunity to score without any resistance.

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Speaker 2: And Duke is good defensively, they have been throughout the year.

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Speaker 2: You want Houston to make that play at the end,

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Speaker 2: and now you get a dead ball situation and Juwan

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Speaker 2: Roberts goes to the line of makes two huge clutch

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Speaker 2: free throws, as clutch as they are. Mike, I still think,

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Speaker 2: if you're Duke, you don't want to put him on

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Speaker 2: the free throw line. You don't want to give him

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Speaker 2: two easy points. And I didn't like the call. Houston

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Speaker 2: would have gotten possession anyway. The way that the ball bounced.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a bad call in that situation.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm along the lines of Bill

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Speaker 2: Simmons and saying that the referee was waiting to make

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Speaker 2: that call, but he sure made the call immediately, And

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Speaker 2: I just I don't think you make the call in

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Speaker 2: that situation. And your pointing about Coach K. Coach K's

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Speaker 2: on that bench, No way that call has made, absolutely

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Speaker 2: positively zero chance that call has made in that scenario.

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Speaker 1: You also have probably practiced your end of game situations

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Speaker 1: a bit more like I'd love to know the practice schedules.

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Speaker 1: Sure right, they're like this is where we start. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's let's peel the unding back. Because you didn't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of real life experience. And that's what Shier

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Speaker 1: owed up to in the post game. He goes, look,

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Speaker 1: we thought we were ready, but we haven't had a

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Speaker 1: lot of these. We didn't get a lot of endgame situations.

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Speaker 1: The free throw by Roberts like those that to me

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Speaker 1: sealed it, Hey what a fifty nine percent guy goes through?

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Speaker 1: But they allowed both games just felt like wrestling matches.

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Speaker 1: Like you and I were joking because I'm going to

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Speaker 1: head out to Russell me in a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: and kind of talking about you know, details and all that.

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Speaker 1: Like both games, they let a lot of stuff go

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Speaker 1: and then you get that call on flag, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Otani things like nothing to see here. Yes, it's clearly

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Speaker 1: all on that guy, correct, and it might have been

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Speaker 1: like full on, but like there's still part of me

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Speaker 1: is like that just closed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was wrapped up.

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Speaker 1: Same thing here when you're talking about golden and it's

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Speaker 1: not to cast dispersions of them as coaches and whatever

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Speaker 1: they get out of players on the court and in

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Speaker 1: the locker room. Clearly, for Calvin Sampson, you've got a

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Speaker 1: long history of that. It doesn't mean that they didn't

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Speaker 1: break rules, and you can laugh about what those rules were,

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Speaker 1: but you had major violations and penalties associated with them.

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Speaker 1: Those aren't suddenly like ah shucks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he was in under a strike one in your

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Speaker 2: out scenario at Indiana because of what happened at Oklahoma

447
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Speaker 2: and these I get paying your dues and the redemption story.

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Speaker 2: I think what you're getting at is it's just not

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Speaker 2: all rainbows at the end of it. It's not like

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Speaker 2: they're the coaching path that say Calvin Sampson went on

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Speaker 2: was probably due because of what Calvin Samson did, Like

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Speaker 2: him going to the NBA and being an assistant all

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Speaker 2: those years wasn't a part of his plan twenty five

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Speaker 2: years ago when he was the head coach at Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: and the head coach in Indiana, and the roads and

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Speaker 2: the actions of his doing led him to those places.

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Speaker 1: But that's it, right, Like a bunch of it has

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Speaker 1: been aw While it was unfortunate he had to go

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Speaker 1: coach in the NBA, it's like, no, he did that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that was his own doing, correct.

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Speaker 1: And the NCAA and basically said don't bring this guy in. Right,

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Speaker 1: he's got a PAM penalty for this and he's back

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Speaker 1: in rehabilitation. Second chances, third chances, however many that's fine.

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Speaker 1: But it's like we just were just whitewashing all over

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Speaker 1: all this stuff, chuckling about it because the rules have changed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're not saying that he's doing stuff now

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Speaker 2: at Houston. It's just the point of it's not the

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Speaker 2: redemption story that if you do it to yourself, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's it's a great turnaround. But he is the one

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Speaker 2: that put himself in that situation. Great to get back

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Speaker 2: in the game. And maybe things have changed, and I

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Speaker 2: assume that they haven't. It's a different college basketball now

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Speaker 2: than it was twenty years ago. But yeah, it is

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Speaker 2: part of part of the story. We don't have to

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Speaker 2: harp on it. We don't have to sit, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: and talk about it all the time. I just I

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Speaker 2: mentioned it with the Brownie James stuff, like, there's at

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Speaker 2: some point for people who like myself, think that you

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Speaker 2: should be in college right now and maybe playing in

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Speaker 2: a national championship game as opposed to going to the

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Speaker 2: G League. There's going to be some point where I'm

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Speaker 2: going to have to get over it and move on

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Speaker 2: from it. But in terms of like the high profile

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Speaker 2: and Houston did make a Final four a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago, was in the COVID you know time, so

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Speaker 2: maybe you're not getting that sort of exposure. You're not

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Speaker 2: going to be asking about things twenty years ago. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: to make it all one hundred percent, you know, rainbows

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Speaker 2: and roses not necessarily the case.

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Speaker 1: It was a nice little tie in there. You said,

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Speaker 1: COVID maybe not exposure good for you at Dan Bayer

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Speaker 1: on Fox. Didn't even realize the puns are flowing. They're

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Speaker 1: so seamless, even though Dan that they roll through. Now

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Speaker 1: let's go to the other side of coaching. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about the Women's Final today, and I think it ties

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Speaker 1: to a lot of what we're talking about in coaching,

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Speaker 1: in consistency and continuity and just narratives that surround these games.

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Speaker 1: Don Staley talking about their date with Yukon later on today.

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Speaker 5: You know, sometimes we create these narratives about great players.

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Speaker 5: Caitlyn was one of them. Page is one of them

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Speaker 5: right now, and we tend to forget the narrative about

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Speaker 5: what our kids have been able to do and going

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Speaker 5: for their third in four years. So there's a sentimental

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Speaker 5: narrative about Page, great freaking player, like anybody would start

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Speaker 5: their franchise with Page because of her efficient way of playing,

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Speaker 5: because of her she's a winner, and she'll be the

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Speaker 5: number one pick in the w NBA draft, and she'll

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Speaker 5: be an Olympian. She will be all of those things. Right,

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Speaker 5: But when you put a narrative out there, everybody sees

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Speaker 5: that and it puts it puts us at a disadvantage,

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Speaker 5: whether you want to believe so or not you know,

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Speaker 5: official seed. You know, it's all over TikTok is all

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Speaker 5: over Sports Center is all over.

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Speaker 3: All of that.

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Speaker 1: So everyone sees it. Everyone triple underscore add the ESPN

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Speaker 1: because she had issues with some of the way they

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Speaker 1: were characterizing quotes from the presser as well. Spreads actually

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Speaker 1: moved out a point. I predicted what it was on Friday,

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Speaker 1: so good, it's now six and a half Yukon minus

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Speaker 1: six and a half. It started at five and a

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Speaker 1: half because we did the let's predict the game at

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Speaker 1: the end of the show and I said, Yukon minus

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Speaker 1: six and he goes at the spread and literally it

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Speaker 1: hadn't updated, and like in the final ten seconds the

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Speaker 1: page refreshed like it starts out at five and a half, like, yeah, it.

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Speaker 2: Should be our women's basketball handicap.

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Speaker 1: Evidently I had something my finger on the pulse.

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Speaker 2: But I find I find this conversation two levels the

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Speaker 2: most immediate. I do think that Don Staley is talking

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Speaker 2: about the game later today and Paige Beckers and maybe

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Speaker 2: a message to the referees. That's probat of the least

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Speaker 2: amount of it. But it is a part of being like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, we've got a pretty good team over here too.

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Speaker 2: Let's not make or make sure that their star player

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Speaker 2: doesn't get the favorable whistle, even if there's sure if

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Speaker 2: she's maybe favorable in terms of the fan base and

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Speaker 2: the crowd that you have. I remember last year, like

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Speaker 2: Paige Becker's fandom somehow ended up in my TikTok algorithm.

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Speaker 2: So this isn't just a necessarily a recent thing, Mike.

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Speaker 2: It I don't even know if it's I don't even

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Speaker 2: think it's a Caitlin Clark sort of thing. I think

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Speaker 2: that it's just the fact of there's something about Paige

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Speaker 2: Beckers being on the most popular women's basketball team that

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Speaker 2: there there is, and that leads to it. Zion Williamson

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Speaker 2: had his own like hype coming in to Duke from

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Speaker 2: high school. Not that Paige Beckers had hype going into

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Speaker 2: high school. But we did know a little bit about

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Speaker 2: Page Beckers when she committed to Yukon, and she's had

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Speaker 2: that name, so there is maybe not exact parallels, but

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Speaker 2: Page Beckers has been a name for a while, Yukon

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Speaker 2: has been a name for a while, And I get

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Speaker 2: when you're Don Staley and you're saying we're playing in

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Speaker 2: our third national championship game in four years, and all

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Speaker 2: people want to talk about is Yukon. I completely understand

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Speaker 2: that portion of it, but I do think that there

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Speaker 2: is something unique about about Paige Beckers because it's not

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Speaker 2: like the rest of the Yukon team is like that.

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Speaker 2: But Yukon has had stars in previous years, sure, and

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Speaker 2: she just ends up being the star at this point.

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Speaker 2: So whether it be Maya More, whether it be Brianna Stewart,

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Speaker 2: whether it be Diana Tarassi or you know, Sue Byrd

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Speaker 2: in those thing back to Rebecca logo, logo lobo, maybe

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Speaker 2: she should be, Maybe she should The point is is

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Speaker 2: they've had a star player go along those lines, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know if if you can trump that, especially

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Speaker 2: in today's day and age, where individuals start them just

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Speaker 2: carries so much, you know, so much weight.

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Speaker 1: Well, but that's just it, right. We watched it on

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Speaker 1: the men's side, right, it was Cooper Flagg coaches and

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Speaker 1: then a little bit of noise and now we've got Clayton.

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Speaker 1: Now we had Broom fantatic. We didn't even talk about

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Speaker 1: that game. Fantastic. First half looked like it was going

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Speaker 1: to be dumping into the low post all day long,

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Speaker 1: and then second half cloak of invisibility. Yeah, as Florida

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Speaker 1: gets it done. Here was the quote like from the

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Speaker 1: ESPN Women's Hoops Twitter account linking to their their article,

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Speaker 1: Daunce Staley says narrative around pagebackers that her quest to

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Speaker 1: win a title is overshadowed South Carolina's feet lies. Fix

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Speaker 1: your headline please. That clip we played kind of said

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Speaker 1: that verbatim, like all that was even if it was Ai.

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Speaker 1: This is the case where AI might have gotten it

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Speaker 1: rad I think because we're reading into the subtext of

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Speaker 1: referees and making sure you know, you make your officiating

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Speaker 1: this properly and all. But yeah, that's exactly what she

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Speaker 1: said first out. I mean, there's no denying.

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Speaker 2: Zukon made the Final four in like seventeen in the

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Speaker 2: last eighteen years.

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Speaker 1: Right, and they had, but they haven't won a title

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Speaker 1: in a decade. Huge, huge for coach Gino Orima, who's

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Speaker 1: still been one of the voices and faces of the game,

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Speaker 1: hasn't finished the job. Only title game loss to Don Staley.

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Speaker 2: Well, so she has that last laugh.

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Speaker 1: That's it. We'll see if they can even that up

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Speaker 1: a little bit later on Now let's turn things over

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Speaker 1: to our guy, Isaac loewen Kron at the news desk.

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Speaker 1: Plenty of stuff going on, how about it?

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Speaker 6: As we speak, fellas Alex Ovechkin of the Washington Capitals

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Speaker 6: trying to break the NHL's all time goal scoring record

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Speaker 6: as they visit the New York Islanders. There two and

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Speaker 6: a half minutes out of the first period, no score.

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Speaker 6: Now for a preview of what Ovechkin might say after

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Speaker 6: he breaks the record, let's refer back to his speech

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Speaker 6: at the Capitol's Stanley Cup victory parade back in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 7: It's your squatting josshh where let's go.

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Speaker 6: Expect some of the same measured, calm reaction after the

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Speaker 6: next goal he scores. At the Final four on Saturday night,

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Speaker 6: Houston with an epic comeback to beat Dukes seventy to

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Speaker 6: sixty seven. Duke up nine with two oh six to play,

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Speaker 6: but Houston closed on a fifteen to three run. Duke's

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Speaker 6: Cooper Flag scored twenty seven and missed a twelve footer

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Speaker 6: for the lead with eight seconds to play. And guys,

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Speaker 6: the popular social media account Freezing Cold Takes curated a

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Speaker 6: number of tweets that were posted last night before Houston

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Speaker 6: made it's amazing comeback. Joseph posted quote, this is classic

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Speaker 6: Houston basketball. Unbelievable regular season, followed by just absolutely choking

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Speaker 6: when the lights are the brightest, and then Sean added quote,

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Speaker 6: Duke has led by fourteen plus points in every NCAA

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Speaker 6: tournament game this year. No game has really felt close

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Speaker 6: for the Blue Devils. And it's not because they can't

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Speaker 6: play close games. They're just flat out better than everyone else. Unquote. Anyway,

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Speaker 6: Houston will play Florida for the National Championship on Monday,

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Speaker 6: after their seventy nine seventy three victory earlier Saturday evening

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Speaker 6: over Auburn. Walter Clayton Junior scored thirty four points. Coming

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Speaker 6: up today at three pm Eastern, the women's National Championship

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Speaker 6: game between South Carolina and Yukon.

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Speaker 1: got their caffeine going, so here's one to ponder, Oh,

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Speaker 1: what could have been for Duke? Chew on that as

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Speaker 1: we continue. It's Fox Sports Sunday. He's Dan, I'm Mike.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back into the Tirac dot com Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio studio. It's Fox Sports Sunday. Mike Carmen alongside Dan Byer.

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Speaker 1: Plenty of action. We're on the pitch, we're on the course,

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Speaker 1: we're starting baseball games, we've got hockey going. But we

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Speaker 2: Dan Byer, Mike, it's a great time to get the

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Speaker 2: Fox family together and play the feud. Mike Harmen, Chris

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Speaker 2: Purfet Shay and Isaac Lohencron make up the foxfamily here

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Speaker 2: on this Sunday, April sixth. Tell you what. It was

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Speaker 2: almost top twelve answers on the board. Instead, it's top

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Speaker 2: eleven answers on the board. Just because Duke loses doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean that I'm gonna lose. I had a Duke themed

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00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: question set up days before today's show, and Duke ended

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Speaker 2: up ruining it last night by losing that contest to

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Speaker 2: the Houston Cougars, blowing that nine point lead with two

653
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: and a half minutes to go. Duke had appeared in

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00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 2: the National Championship Game eleven times. If they win last night,

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00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: it would have been number twelve. Crazy enough, they've played

656
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Speaker 2: eleven different opponents in those championship games. I want to

657
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Speaker 2: know who they are, and I'll even give you guys

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Speaker 2: a hint. They had two appearances pre nineteen eighty six

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Speaker 2: in a championship game, but everything after that was coach

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Speaker 2: k Mike Carmon. We start with you schools that Duke

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00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: has faced when they've made it to the national Championship

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Speaker 2: game in men's basketball.

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Speaker 1: Now, since it shows up on every documentary, I'll let's

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Speaker 1: you start with UNLV.

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Speaker 2: UNLVS show me the Running Rebels. The nineteen ninety game

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Speaker 2: Duke actually lost to UNLV by thirty points in Denver,

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Speaker 2: which made the next year's game in the National semi

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Speaker 2: final so intriguing. In Indianapolis, UNLV is off the board

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Speaker 2: over to Chris purfets.

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Speaker 8: See you say that it's disappointing Duke lost. I say

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Speaker 8: it's a great day in the country. That Duke lost.

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Speaker 2: It's disappointing for me because I think I thought that

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00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: my feud was gonna go to waste. Then I said,

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Speaker 2: do it everyway.

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Speaker 8: But like I will always take Duke losing. I'm gonna say, Ucla,

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Speaker 8: they must have played him somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Show me Ucla getting one of the old ones off

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Speaker 2: the board. Nineteen sixty four Duke loss to UCLA and

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Speaker 2: the National Championship game. Good job, Chris over to shay Um,

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Speaker 2: let's go. Duke has played in the National champions You

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00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna go with an easy one here? I

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Speaker 2: think it's easy at least. Okay, North Carolina North Carolina

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00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: conference rival. We know about the rivalry? Is it North Carolina?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

685
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: Never in a championship game. In fact, they played in

686
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Speaker 2: the Final four a couple of years ago, which was

687
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: really strange. North Carolina won that game and it was

688
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: coach K's last game as Duke head coach. One strike,

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Speaker 2: A pass is available, By the way, guys, over to Isaac.

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Speaker 6: Low and Cron, why'd you mention a pass is available

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Speaker 6: before going to me?

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Speaker 2: I forgot that. I just got to mention it at

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Speaker 2: the start.

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Speaker 6: Purvis Ellison because of him. It was Duke losing two Louisville.

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Speaker 1: I think at.

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Speaker 6: Kemper Arena in eighty five, or maybe it was Reenion Arena, whatever, Louisville.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 2: Well, show me Louisville nineteen eighty six Reunion Arena in

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Speaker 2: Dallas is when it was Louisville is off the board.

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Speaker 2: Back around to Mike Carmen.

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Speaker 1: Had to be a battle with Kansas somewhere in there,

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Speaker 1: wasn't there.

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Speaker 2: Show me Kansas nineteen ninety one, the year that they

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Speaker 2: beat UNLV in the national semifinal, they faced Kansas in

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Speaker 2: the championship game in Indianapolis and won their first championship.

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Speaker 8: Over to Chris Purfett. Well, since we're in the nineties,

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Speaker 8: let's go with Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Show me Michigan beating the Fab five A year later

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Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety two in Minneapolis. Michigan is off the board.

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Speaker 2: Good job guys. So far UCLA, Louisville, UNLB, Kansas, and

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Speaker 2: Michigan has schools that Duke has faced in the National

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Speaker 2: Championship game. Over to Shay, I'm gonna go Yukon, Yukon,

713
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Speaker 2: great success, Show me Yukon nineteen ninety nine, Duke loses

714
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: Jim Calhoun's first national championship in your parents' backyard, Saint Petersburg, Florida,

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Speaker 2: Yukon is off the board, over to Isaac Glohancron.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I'm screwed.

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Speaker 2: There are five answers left. We all have one strike

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Speaker 2: on the board.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to go late seventies. Maybe Kentucky in

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Speaker 6: Saint Louis.

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Speaker 2: Show me Kentucky. Okayating How would you know it was

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Speaker 2: in Saint Louis.

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Speaker 6: Because they played at the Checkered Ome in the lates seventies.

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Speaker 6: That was the last time they got before Coach k

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Speaker 6: made it.

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Speaker 2: It was Oh, that's pre Isaac Longcron. He wasn't even born.

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Speaker 1: How goot that?

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Speaker 8: All?

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Speaker 2: Right? Mike Carmen back to you.

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Speaker 1: All that filibustering to come back to. How about Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Arizona, They've had some great teams, but where they able

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Speaker 2: to meet Duke in a championship game? Show me the

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Speaker 2: Wildcats of Arizona. Happened in two thousand and one. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's when Duke won a national championship, the third for

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Speaker 2: Mike Krzyzewski. Arizona's off the board. Chris Burfett over to you.

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Speaker 8: Oh no, now I'm really sweating.

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Speaker 1: Oh you know what?

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Speaker 2: Why am I doing this?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, Butler, show me Butler. I was gonna say this.

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Speaker 2: Two most recent terrances. Gordon Hayward's half court shot that

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Speaker 2: did not go down ended up giving Duke another national

751
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Speaker 2: championship their fourth. Butler is off the board. There is

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Speaker 2: a pass available, Shay Final two answers left, final two answers.

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Speaker 2: Seems Duke is faced in the national championship game. I

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00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna use my pass here, guys, Okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: let's throw in the pass here. Now I got ninety

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Speaker 2: four Arkansas they beat ark Yes, they lost. I should

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Speaker 2: say they lost to Arkansas. Scotty Thurman ceiling the deal

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Speaker 2: for the Hogs with Bill Clinton, Hi in attendance. All right,

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Speaker 2: Isaac Longcrow, we got ten seconds?

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Speaker 1: Maryland?

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Speaker 2: Is it Maryland? Harmon?

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Speaker 1: No clue?

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, it's my alma mater, Wisconsin. The last

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Speaker 2: title College Buckets.

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Speaker 1: Still waiting for Ovechkin to make his mark on this game.

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Speaker 1: To nil or is it to nothing? Like I've started

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Speaker 1: saying nil for everything because I've got soccer with Man

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Speaker 1: City and Man You going at it as.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think too. Nothing is fine, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I don't get someone

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Speaker 1: mad at me for using the wrong expression to say

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Speaker 1: you're scoreless. So as we talked about a little bit

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Speaker 1: last hour, the price of tickets, plummeted. We keep getting

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Speaker 1: all sorts of uncomfortable shots, like did they think Wayne

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Speaker 1: Gretzky's just gonna go into and start cursing up a

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Speaker 1: store him if Wevekin does something positive? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what what we're looking for. The coach shot.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, I'm not sure either. I do think that Gretzky

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Speaker 2: probably at some point hopes that Ovechkin does it so

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Speaker 2: he doesn't have to follow him around for the final

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Speaker 2: two weeks.

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Speaker 1: He was he was looking at his watch in the

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Speaker 1: last shot. All right, we got spending time with Bettman.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the did somebody call a penalty just so

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Speaker 2: I don't have to go to the next game? Give

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Speaker 2: him a penalty shot and we can end this now.

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Speaker 1: That would be a fun way. And as we talked

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Speaker 1: about a little off air against the Blackhawks, he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: take the empty net proposition, So you got that off

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Speaker 1: the table. You watch competition, no straight straight hand lay

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Speaker 1: down opportunities. That's good, which is good, right.

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Speaker 2: Shows a restraint. Also shows that you're pretty headsy about

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Speaker 2: what's what's going on, and I think.

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Speaker 1: That's how that does. And also recognizing that the world

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Speaker 1: goes against you, Yes, that is your break a record

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Speaker 1: like that, versus right now, ninety five percent of the

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Speaker 1: world doesn't know what's happening, which is a sports watching world.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's been, it's been going on, and it's been

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Speaker 2: going on for a while. I remember, Heck Shaye we

807
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Speaker 2: were doing shows in February and Shaye was talking about

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Speaker 2: eight goals away. Yeah, was ten thirteen like around that

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Speaker 2: number and then the countdown. And I mean the way

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00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: that it's aligned with Gretzky's career is pretty amazing. But

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Speaker 2: I am surprised that it hasn't gotten as much run.

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Speaker 2: I would have thought that, okay, if it was, if

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Speaker 2: it was a points deal where Gretzky leads everybody by

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Speaker 2: a mile, that that could maybe get lost in the sauce,

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Speaker 2: because I mean, getting goals is the most simplest thing

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Speaker 2: that there is. It's the easiest metric that you feel

817
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Speaker 2: like you could look at in hockey. And for him

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Speaker 2: to about to pass Wayne Gretzky is crazy. And I

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Speaker 2: know there's been a lot of talk on whether he

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Speaker 2: should or is deserving of it or not, the fact

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Speaker 2: is that he's about to do it, And you're right,

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Speaker 2: mynad I'm not sure how many people are actually paying

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Speaker 2: attention to it.

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Speaker 1: We can fight about the wha goals. We could do

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Speaker 1: all that because we talked about the the NFL this

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Speaker 1: week changing the rules so Tom Brady's no longer the

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Speaker 1: most decorated quarterback, Northwestern alum, Auto grand Baby and the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, baby, we're on the board back on top.

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Speaker 1: That's those stats coming in from forty six to forty that's.

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Speaker 2: The AAFL, right, that's yeah, I come on.

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Speaker 1: So creating a bit of chaos. But that's been one

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Speaker 1: of the arguments with Gretzky, is you lose a year

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Speaker 1: of thirty nine goals that don't count. It's all arbitrary.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like we were talking about with the

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Speaker 1: NCAA coaches. In your own mind, you decide where your

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Speaker 1: narrative is going to lie, and then the accomplishments are

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Speaker 1: what they are. Right, So, Vechkin, if you don't want

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Speaker 1: to recognize him as the all time goal leader, fine,

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Speaker 1: If you don't want to recognize Bonds, fine, I can't

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Speaker 1: tell you how to feel, but recognize that the rest

842
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: of the world will notch that next goal and move on.

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00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: There is a natural aspect of it as well. And

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Speaker 2: I still think when you think all time home run leader,

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Speaker 2: you think of you think of Hank Aaron. I mean,

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Speaker 2: even like Bonds's number of seven sixty three, I think

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Speaker 2: that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Is is it too there?

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 2: It's a perfect example. We all knew seven fifty five.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the point. We knew seven to.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen, five, seven, fourteen, six, sixty.

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Speaker 2: Seven to fifteen to break it, yep, seven fifty five

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Speaker 2: to end it. And yeah, and so now to not

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Speaker 2: even know what the number is exactly? Think was it

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Speaker 2: seventy three? Single season? Was that? Was that the number? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Sixty one? He there's a movie about it, right, pretty good?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it worked out pretty well.

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Speaker 2: Those numbers. That that's what tells you that the test

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Speaker 2: of time, those things stand up. It's an organic sort

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862
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not going to remember. I don't know how

863
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 1: many goals it is. Even now, it's like I don't

864
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: breaking the record, right, what is it? Eight?

865
00:44:59,800 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 8: Ye?

866
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you'll remember that he did or he didn't, right,

867
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: I Mean that's the point.

868
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: That's the test of it at this point, right, because

869
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: we don't remember how many yards EMMITTT. Smith Rush for

870
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Speaker 1: no or how many points Lebron James has now scored,

871
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Speaker 2: Doug gollif till everybody had three picks wrong and then

887
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: I went looked at his brackety at eight. I'm not

888
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: saying that Doug was lying. I just don't think that

889
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 2: he knew and he was in first place at the time.

890
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: Look, he like we were just talking about memory play.

891
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: I picked that game, right, No, I didn't pick that game,

892
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: and I owned it very very early on in the tournament.

893
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: A lot of dart throwing, kind of like the feud.

894
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: This last time, I let pick some big brands and

895
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: go for it. And that's what we have here in

896
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: the final four, right, number one seeds getting after it.

897
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: People trying to make Houston little engine that could okay

898
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: on a grand scale. Sure, you could say kind of

899
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: an outlier, but it's a program that Kelvin Sampson's been

900
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: building but over a decade at this point, and consistent winning,

901
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: consistency in culture. That word that sometimes the hairs stand

902
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: up on my arms when I use it because we

903
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: use it so often that it g's almost cringey at

904
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: this point. But the point being that if you paid attention,

905
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: they're a number one seed. Yes, they're an older team,

906
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: a good defensive team. They beat the hell out of teams,

907
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: and like we talk about coming out for those that

908
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: were uninitiated, they don't go away. They don't go away

909
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: to the final buzzer. You're gonna get for it's not

910
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: quite Nolan Richardson's forty minutes of Hell that we talked

911
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: about in the feud as well. But it's the idea

912
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 1: of consistency, of course. And so all the lamentation about Cinderella,

913
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: I tried to make the point at the start of

914
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: the tournament of Cinderella is supposed to be rare and

915
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: appreciate this. So now Dan, you know, point you and

916
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: I as we're talking about it, is like, maybe it's

917
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: time to rethink where college basketball college football are in

918
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: this time. Continue.

919
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Houston, just for the record, the last loss

920
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: was on February first, so that was before the Super Bowl.

921
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: The last loss, it was an overtime game the Texas Tech.

922
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: They lost at home eighty two eighty one. Texas Tech

923
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: by the way, pretty good team, right, saw make it

924
00:47:58,600 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: to the to the Elite eight.

925
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: One of the darlings. Those people were trying to go

926
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: away from a one or.

927
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: Two seas that's lost number one they have four on

928
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: the year. Two others were in overtime, one to San

929
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: Diego State. Similar style of teams that you're gonna play,

930
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: can understand. And Alabama not not a bad loss by

931
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: any means if you're losing to the Crimson Tide. So

932
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 2: that was back in November, and then they lost early

933
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: to Auburn, who, by the way, another pretty good team.

934
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: That's it. Those are the other teams that knocked Houston

935
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: off all year, and it might to talk about the

936
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: final four as a whole. Auburn was number one for

937
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: a majority of the year before a late season slide.

938
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: Then Duke moved into that spot. Florida had beaten that

939
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: Auburn team when they were rolling. They were competitive in

940
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: every single game and winning most of them outside of

941
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: a of a rare stinker that they had against Tennessee.

942
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: But Florida's been there the whole time, So the whole season,

943
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: I think it's been telling us, and the Seeds told

944
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: us that this is likely what the final four should be.

945
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: But what I find funny, Mike, is the Johnny come

946
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: lately's to college basketball that we'll only want to talk

947
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: about things in a enormously broad sense. Is this good

948
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: for college basketball or is this bad for college basketball?

949
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: Is this good for the tournament or is this bad

950
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: for the tournament. A couple of years ago, when we

951
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: had a final four of San Diego state in Florida Atlantic.

952
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 2: Remember when they were in at FAU it was Yukon

953
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 2: and Miami. I believe it was the other school in

954
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 2: that final four. Man, look at these cinderellas. This isn't

955
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to watch this. There's too many cinderellas.

956
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 2: There's too many teams.

957
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't know the teams that you didn't know. Yeah, correct, right,

958
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: Miami making it.

959
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: I don't know any of these teams. I don't know

960
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: these squads. I get it. Now we're sitting there saying

961
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: nil is ruined Cinderella, Well, which way do you want it?

962
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: Because I'm fine with what we've got.

963
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: I get it.

964
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 2: The first round wasn't as crazy and seeing a high

965
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: point pulling an upset or an Omaha knocking off a

966
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: top team. I get it. We only had one double

967
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: digit seed make the round of sixteen, and that was

968
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: Arkansas coming from the SEC. I get we missed that aspect.

969
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: But you can't tell me last night wasn't awesome and Mike,

970
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 2: I can have it both ways. I just don't like

971
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: it when people don't want it either way. So they

972
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: either don't want Cinderella's or now they're saying anil has

973
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: completely ruined the tournament? Did it ruin it? Last night?

974
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: When we had four high quality basketball teams play two

975
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: high quality basketball games on the biggest of stages. That's

976
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 2: the part that gets me. What do you want? Because

977
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: this probably is the future? And guess what, that's not

978
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: too bad considering what we saw last night in San Antonio.

979
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: If that ends up being what college basketball is.

980
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: So be it.

981
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: We don't have Cinderella anymore. Maybe Cinderella is just much

982
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: more rare. But if you can get a Final Four

983
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: like that and hopefully a championship game that lives up

984
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: to it, why are we complaining?

985
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: I think some of it owes to what we did

986
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: talked about last hour of teams trending older and so

987
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: what it's gonna take is one of these again the

988
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: the term that gets everybody cringey mid majors to get

989
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: the right set of junior and senior guys. Maybe less

990
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: money is in the in the pot and whatever, but

991
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: that it just happens. And then we talk about matchups

992
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: all the time, but the larger scale of sports as

993
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 1: a whole is the competition and the striving to find

994
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: the best teams. What do we always complain about Like

995
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: look at the way Eli Manning's career has been characterized. Sure,

996
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: those Giants teams weren't really good, like they won. Shut up, Yes,

997
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: Brad Johnson didn't need to be great, he won. Trent

998
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: Dilfer much beligned. Guess what, Yeah, he had a great

999
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: team around him. He won. We want the competition at

1000
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: the best, and it doesn't mean that position for position

1001
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: that they're all going to be the the all times,

1002
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: but we want the best teams there. To your point,

1003
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: we can't. Then we complain when we don't get Ah,

1004
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: thenother one seed fell out, and then we try to

1005
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: find the reasons slash excuses like the harping on like

1006
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: the flag file is clearly a huge play, but it's

1007
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: not the only thing in a ten minute collapse. Correct right,

1008
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: and and give Houston their proper due, Like I don't

1009
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: want Don Staley coming after me because I dismiss their players.

1010
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: But it's all that to say, like in theory, you

1011
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: want the best of the best, and if nil is

1012
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: not your cup of tea, there's a lot of sports

1013
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: to watch.

1014
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: Sure, and this is the part where I understand it.

1015
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 2: It Mike, it's likely going to be the mid majors

1016
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 2: needing to have a group of freshmen and sophomore in

1017
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 2: juniors because if they are having success, they'll get money

1018
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: to go to go somewhere else. But there's there's a

1019
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 2: give and take with all of it. We saw runs

1020
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: from Loyalo Chicago, which I know, you know you're close

1021
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 2: to your roots. We remember Wichita State. We talked about

1022
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: Butler's run earlier. I watched Butler play the next year

1023
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 2: against Yukon in the twenty eleven Final four in the

1024
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: National Championship Game, which has been panned as one of

1025
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: the worst, if not the worst National Championship game we

1026
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 2: ever had. No one could make a shot. It was

1027
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: in Houston. Butler doesn't have a huge alumni base. Yukon doesn't.

1028
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: You have seventy thousand seats there. There weren't seventy thousand

1029
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 2: people there. It was just a blah atmosphere. There was

1030
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 2: no juice whatsoever. There was juice last night. Houston's. Hey,

1031
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: you can make a drive to San Antonio if you

1032
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: want to watch that. That's awesome. You're gonna have big

1033
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: fan bases. My old point is is I just I

1034
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: don't like the drop ins to the sport. I know

1035
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: it's not ideal. In a perfect world, Mike, we'd have

1036
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: a couple of cinderellas, maybe one goes far bows out

1037
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: at the end and we get this final four. But

1038
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: you're not gonna have that. But not everything is one

1039
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: way or the other. So if you don't like what

1040
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: you saw on the earlier rounds, you get this in

1041
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: the final four. And this is the point that I

1042
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 2: feel the drop ins always said, well, no upsets early

1043
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 2: mean better games. Yeah, that's what you're gonna get. And

1044
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: it may not always be number one seeds, which I

1045
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: didn't love. But I love the games last night and

1046
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: I refuse to complain about it.

1047
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,959
Speaker 1: That's first time since two thousand and eight, second time

1048
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: that we've seen it. So does it become a trend?

1049
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. We have to wait for the next

1050
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 1: couple of years to bear out. Sure, right, injuries happen.

1051
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 1: Look at look at what happened to Duke Cooper. Flag

1052
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: missed a couple of games. You had a scary moment.

1053
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: You know, you can talk about operations shut down of

1054
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: how much the collegiate experience means versus could something be

1055
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: aggravated if he were to play well, he went, and

1056
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 1: he laid it out and played his heart out. Misses

1057
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: the shot, he'll be lambasted and you know, mocked and

1058
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: told these overrated here in short order, because I've seen

1059
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: an awful lot of Carmelo anthony. It does not help

1060
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: that Carmelo nay to the Hall of Fame as this

1061
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: kind of conversation goes on, right, that one behim glorious

1062
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: run with Carmelo all those years ago. But it's just

1063
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: the that idea of maybe maybe this is where it

1064
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: comes for the next couple of years. Then guess what

1065
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: things will pivot because it's always evolving, sure, and the

1066
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: rules of echangement as they stand right now will not

1067
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: will not be either there'll be governmental intervention or we

1068
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: change up the dance card as a whole.

1069
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: I also think that when you look at the bracket,

1070
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 2: and we sometimes look at it in a funky way,

1071
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: the two seeds, I don't think we're as strong as

1072
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: we thought that they were. Sure, like Tennessee was the

1073
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 2: highest seeded, number two seed, they got completely locked up

1074
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: by Houston in the regional final. As it turns out,

1075
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: maybe Texas Tech was the biggest threat to anybody as

1076
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 2: a three seed. Heck, we just mentioned they beat Houston

1077
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: earlier this season, so those sort of things are still there.

1078
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 2: Maybe there'll be six teams that dominate college basketball. The

1079
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: top of college basketball this year. Iowa State was a

1080
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: team that was in the top five. Then they have injuries,

1081
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: stuff happens, Guys aren't available, they fall down to a

1082
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: three seed, and they're out after the first weekend of

1083
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 2: the tournament. Those things happen in college basketball. I don't

1084
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,479
Speaker 2: think you're going to see a string of all number

1085
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: one seeds making it to the final four. But if

1086
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: we do, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.

1087
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: Considering what we saw on the court last night. In

1088
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 2: both of those games.

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00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: You absolutely my rapped attention, no second screens. I was

1090
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: getting a lot of stuff done. Like I was telling

1091
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: you off air, it's like this, this is a great

1092
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: theater from pillar to post. Even when it was a

1093
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: big lead, it's still the theater. Duke has ha done

1094
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: it in a bit, new coach, star player, but knowing

1095
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 1: Houston's propensity to come back. Likewise on the other side.

1096
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 2: And Mike, I get it, but you also when we

1097
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: talk about this small window of just this year, You

1098
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 2: can't tell me that some three seed next year who

1099
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: was a top team in the maybe throughout the season,

1100
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: but maybe had injuries like Iowa State, or things fall apart,

1101
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: or maybe the chemistry isn't there, doesn't run into a

1102
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 2: fourteen seed, and maybe the three seeds just doesn't have

1103
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: it that day. Those things can happen. It just didn't

1104
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: happen this year.

1105
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: That's it. It's an outlier. It's a blip on the radar.

1106
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean everything's thrown into chaos. And hey, calm to

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1110
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: visit what does it mean? And I want to do

1111
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: one more thing on ticketing and seeding talking off of

1112
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: the final four. We'll do that next. He's day and

1113
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: on Mike And this is Fox Sports Sunday. Ah, Yes,

1114
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: welcome back in Fox Sports Radio. It's Foxsports Sunday. We've

1115
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: got action on the pitch. Nil nil final. Yay man

1116
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: you man city. At least it wasn't all the near

1117
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: brawls that I saw on a match yesterday. I'm my

1118
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: carving alongside Dan Byer with me as we get ready

1119
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: the Masters next week. Will have a couple of minutes

1120
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: on that a little bit later, go through odds and

1121
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: picks and selections, because I know that's a high holy

1122
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: day in the buyer house I have.

1123
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: I am taking off Thursday and Friday. It's you would

1124
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: think working at a sports network, you would be the

1125
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: ideal place to be, but just like any other workplace,

1126
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: you are distracting. Now. It's nice to have it on

1127
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: the TV, but I am not locked in because I'm

1128
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: doing ninety different things and I would like to be

1129
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: locked in. And so Thursday and Friday I am off,

1130
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: and when I join you next Sunday will be the

1131
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: I'll have all my Master's takes from the previous three

1132
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: days entering the final round.

1133
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: And you'll literally be hiding in the Buyer bunker, y

1134
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: hunkered down and ready to go. But you know, one

1135
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: of the last points, because we talked about the Ovechkin

1136
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: and what ticket sales were ahead of the effort today

1137
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: trying to break Gretzky's goal record. We're keeping an eye

1138
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: on it, but just the vantage points right of Hey,

1139
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: here's what this seat will cost you, and because the

1140
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: ticket ticketing apps have gotten more sophisticated, it's like, here's

1141
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: the view from your seats. And then we saw that

1142
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: yesterday from the Final four, and it's not new but

1143
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: recency and just seeing the proliferation of them, because it

1144
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: seems like more and more folks want to say, yeah,

1145
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: you think that sets bad. Look where I am. Hey, buddy,

1146
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: that was a fall.

1147
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: I love that. I don't know whose account that is,

1148
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: but I saw that as well.

1149
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: But it's like, gran God, it's like looking at or

1150
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: you know that pitch is outside or whatever, when we

1151
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: have these circumstances in different unfamiliar ballparks or larger stadiums

1152
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: in this case, and you know, owing to that, I'm

1153
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: going to WrestleMania in a couple of weeks. It'll be

1154
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: at Allegiance and all this stuff. What your vantage point

1155
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: is and how about are you watching the video versus

1156
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: what's actually going on in the ring. But looking at

1157
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: it from the Final four, I'm like, that's as much

1158
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: as I like being there, and I do. I love

1159
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: the in game experience and live experience, music, theater, ballgames. Yeah,

1160
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's just that I don't know that I

1161
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: would rather watch on my television if I've got that

1162
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: guy's seat.

1163
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: I agree with you and Mike. Here's the news flash

1164
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: that people may not even realize even good seats aren't good.

1165
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: When you're behind the basket on a raised floor, you

1166
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: can't tell what's a twelve foot jumper and what's a three. No,

1167
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: like there's it's it's difficult to see. So like when

1168
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 2: you're in those student sections behind the basket, Yeah, you're

1169
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 2: closer than everybody else, but it's not a great vantage

1170
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: point to watch the game, even if you're lower bowl,

1171
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: like you're talking about the guy who's up in the

1172
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 2: upper deck in the corner where you can't see anything

1173
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 2: lower bowl. Let's say you were sitting in where an

1174
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: end zone seat would be for a football game. The

1175
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 2: court isn't in front of you. It's a student section

1176
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 2: that's in front of you. The courts to the left,

1177
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 2: the way that the Alamodome seats are in this scenario,

1178
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: I don't think they curl towards the field, So you're

1179
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: basically turned with your head left for four hours. Of

1180
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: the seventy thousand seats that you get in these stadiums,

1181
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 2: I would say maybe maybe five thousand are good. And

1182
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 2: those are the ones that are on both sides of

1183
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 2: the court sideways, because behind the hoop is no good

1184
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 2: because you're so far away, and when you're so high up,

1185
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 2: it's not great. It's really you're you're I would do

1186
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: exactly what you want to do, and at least with wrestling,

1187
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 2: you get a pop if somebody enters, you know from

1188
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,959
Speaker 2: the ring, like, this is just the game, and maybe

1189
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 2: you get to see the game winner. But the bang

1190
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 2: for your buck to be at the final four to

1191
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 2: actually watch basketball is really not worth it.

1192
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: I will say this. My favorite other than those shots

1193
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: from the seating were the number of peoples that ran

1194
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: into a chem Elijahuan at a Bucki's I.

1195
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Speaker 2: Didn't see that. I was like, yeah, hey, there he

1196
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Speaker 2: is making a stop on the way right.

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1209
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Speaker 1: today we have the Women's Final. We've got a ton

1210
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: of baseball action, all of these things that we're watching

1211
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: along the way, more chatter about torpedo bats. We're not

1212
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: gonna do it here, but let's talk about the NFL

1213
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: for a minute. Dan, As we get ready for draft

1214
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: draft coverage in earnest right, starting to pick up all

1215
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: the profiles mocked drafts. I always do a one rounder

1216
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: based on everything I've read, everything I've seen, and what

1217
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: I think teams should do. Usually get eight to ten

1218
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: guys placed in the right squad, and then wildly crazy

1219
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: because I don't try to predict trades right that that's

1220
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: the wild card and all this and even at the

1221
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: top this year a lot of uncertainty. But one news

1222
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: item that came out in coming into the weekend is

1223
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: that the Titans and Shadeur Sanders and his team have

1224
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: mutually decided to cancel his private workout, private interview, and

1225
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: hang out. So the obvious thing is, Oh, they're gonna

1226
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: take Cam Wort. No, we think you are. But that's

1227
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent doesn't preclude them from still trading out.

1228
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that they won't take Shador Sanders. Sure, right,

1229
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: it's still in the realm of possible that happened, but

1230
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: the immediate jump to it obviously signals this like it

1231
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: just signals they've either seen enough or they are done.

1232
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: But it's a game of liar's poker for several weeks

1233
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: until someone's walking around with a sign contract or wearing

1234
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: a hat on draft had.

1235
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and no, you're right. Anything can happen in those scenarios,

1236
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 2: And if somebody to call Tennessee and say, guess what

1237
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 2: this is an offer? Things could change. How much do

1238
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 2: you think though it's now should or Sanders not visiting

1239
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 2: and having the visit with the Titans and being like, Okay,

1240
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: if there's a team that wants to move up to two,

1241
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm available. I know it's kind of a far reaching

1242
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: sort of thing, but I don't know if it's a

1243
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 2: way to I don't want to say safe face, but

1244
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 2: there sure seems to be a lot of back and

1245
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 2: forth on where should or Sanders is going to go,

1246
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 2: and there seems to be more talk of him slipping

1247
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,439
Speaker 2: in the draft than going into one of those top

1248
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 2: three pays. And so you just wonder in the case

1249
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: of maybe Tennessee just hasn't shown the interest that other

1250
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 2: teams have as well. I know there are a lot

1251
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 2: of theories, but I just wonder as well, if it's

1252
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 2: if it's a way to make it look like, all right,

1253
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: we're not going to Tennessee, but two and three, all right,

1254
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: let's if you want to move up, we're going to

1255
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 2: be there. Yeah, that's just a theory.

1256
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: So a thing that you know, Travis Hunter is now

1257
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: the favorite to be drafted by the Browns and these

1258
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: have been moving all over the place. You've got cam Ward,

1259
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: You've got to have dual Carter, and I think we're

1260
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: we're all in agreement of where those top who those

1261
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: top players are. And then it just becomes a all right,

1262
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: have the Giants invested too much in the quarterback position?

1263
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: Even if it's not a lot of guaranteed money by

1264
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: bringing Jamis Winston and Russell Wilson in that they obviously

1265
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: pivot to Odre or Carter. I don't know that it's

1266
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: necessarily that either, Like they're not into the either of

1267
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: those guys for a tremendous amount of money. So if

1268
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: you're still looking at the process, and this is Shane

1269
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: and Dable, is it better to win three more games

1270
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: short rump. By the way they're over under is still

1271
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: like four and a half for Winns. The thing, yes,

1272
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: then try to hopefully you get a stay of execution

1273
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: to then bring in your next guy.

1274
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 2: I think there's a tug of war in NFL teams

1275
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: right now in that scenario, Mike, because let's say the

1276
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: Giants were to draft should or Sanders. It's probably the

1277
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 2: best way for Brian Dabele and Joe Shane to keep

1278
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 2: their job if Sanders had a great rookie season, because

1279
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:32,919
Speaker 2: now you're looking, look, we got this young guy, let's

1280
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 2: keep him around. But if you draft him in that

1281
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 2: scenario and you're in a lame duck season, now you

1282
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Speaker 2: have drafted should or Sanders and there could be a

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Speaker 2: whole new regime coming in and they that regime may

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Speaker 2: not love should or Sanders, So now it's a completely

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Speaker 2: wasted pick from that perspective. And it's if I'm John Merra,

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Speaker 2: I want to find my quarterback of the future. But

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Speaker 2: if I'm Brian Dabole and in Joe Shane, I want

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01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 2: to make sure that I have my job. And I

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01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: just think that if you have Shador Sanders, if you

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Speaker 2: would draft him in that spot, that would be the

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Speaker 2: way to keep your job. A seven wins season from

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson or Jameis Winston isn't going to save their

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Speaker 2: job in New York. And that's where if you wanted

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Speaker 2: to If I'm Joe Shane, then I roll the dice

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01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 2: in that scenario makes it work out. John Harbad just

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01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 2: got a contract extension from Baltimore. We forget on how

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson saved his job. When you switched from Flacco

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Speaker 2: to Lamar Jackson. There was talk at the time of

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Speaker 2: John Harbaugh maybe not being back in Baltimore and Joe

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01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: Flacko not being back and Lamar took off, Harbaugh stayed

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Speaker 2: and the rest is history.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always the question there, just like the game

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01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: we're playing now, how much of that is real noise

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01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: versus just the dissatisfied fan base and a guy needing

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01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: to write and fill some coll of inches. Right with

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01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: Tomlin every year of is he really will they really

1307
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: do the unthinkable? But then he ends up winning a

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01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: bunch of games. The streak is alive. It's like the

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01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: Russell WrestleMania streak that the Undertaker had for years. Like

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01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: you lost to that guy all those years. You gave

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Speaker 1: it up to that guy.

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Speaker 2: The funny thing with the Titans in this situation and like,

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Speaker 2: when you have Brian Callahan as your head coach, you're

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Speaker 2: hoping that he can turn the quarterback into something. And

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Speaker 2: the way that he responded to Will Levis at times

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01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 2: last season was like, all right, Will Levis is gonna

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01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: be here for very long. If you're having these outbursts

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Speaker 2: with this quarterback, there's something going on behind the scenes

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01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 2: that makes you this way. But it's also a team

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Speaker 2: that is in a division that is winnable. We feel

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01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 2: Houston's the class of the division. But again, and you

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01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 2: have Jacksonville in Indianapolis going through their own versions of

1323
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 2: newness and Indies trying to figure out who their quarterback is,

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01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 2: you should be able to win some games, and you

1325
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 2: got that new stadium right next door that you're building,

1326
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 2: like you're gonna want some some of that excitement moving

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01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 2: into your new facility. And so that's why this why

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01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 2: cam Ward I think is likely the guy for all

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Speaker 2: of those scenarios.

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Speaker 1: Updated betting odds, and this one is really new here,

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01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 1: at least from my understanding that it was a little

1332
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: more murkier cam Ward from FanDuel minus twenty thousand to

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Speaker 1: be the number one pick at this point, I'll send

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Speaker 1: it to card no exactly. Abdul Carter at eighteen to

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01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: one is your next betting favorite. Number two pick, Travis

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01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: Hunter now at minus one thirty five I head of

1337
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: Abdul Carter, Shadur Sanders third to ten to one, and

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01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: then you get to the third pick overall. Abdul Carter,

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01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, Shadur Sanders seen his over under as to

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: where he'll be selected. But then it becomes a question

1341
01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: of does New Orleans really believe in Spencer rat Bler

1342
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not. They re up Derek Carr, but that

1343
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: seems to be he's one of the guys.

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01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 2: Theory.

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01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we've talked about the march for Arch here

1346
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: hearing on the other uh, the other yelling with Smith,

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01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: it's it's certainly out there. Still got to produce T

1348
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: shirts before it's done, running out of time. But all

1349
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,759
Speaker 1: of that to say, it's the curiosity of those teams

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01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 1: that need a quarterback or seemingly need a quarterback as

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01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: to whether they make a move and whether they get

1352
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: aggressive on draft day.

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01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 2: It's not a great draft class. It's what one of

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01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 2: our first drafts that we have where every team has

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01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 2: their own pick, like, no one has two first round picks.

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01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 2: And I think that that says a lot about this

1357
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 2: draft class that scouts. No scouts know when a draft

1358
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 2: class is going to be good. They know when it's

1359
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,799
Speaker 2: going to be bad, and they know usually years in advance.

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01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 2: You can tell you know when certain guys are going

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 2: to be in and now some may balloon to even

1362
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: better or shrink to be even worse. But this was

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01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 2: a draft class that was not thought of very highly.

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01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: And I think that's also why you see teams saying, like,

1365
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 2: all right, why would I trade this first round pick

1366
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 2: to get one in that class when it's not that great.

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01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,520
Speaker 2: That's what makes the top of the draft so intriguing,

1368
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: is you may just see best available, because if you're

1369
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: filling a need, then you're really dropping down in the

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01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 2: list if that need isn't up there on an overall chart.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll see how many of those teams accidentally win

1372
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 1: too many games to screw themselves or have to give

1373
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: up too much draft capital. A year from now, he's

1374
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: Dan Byer at dan Byron Fox where you find and

1375
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: find me over at Swollen Dome. Time to turn it

1376
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 1: over to Isaac Low and grab one the other update

1377
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 1: of everything going on in our sporting universe? What's going on?

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Speaker 6: I love guys as we speak, Alex Ovetka to the

1379
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 6: Washington Capitals trying to break the NHL's all time goal

1380
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 6: scoring record. Is the Capitals visit the New York Islanders

1381
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Speaker 6: right now. There are three minutes into the second married.

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01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 6: The Islanders lead the Capitals two to nothing. The good

1383
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 6: news is that Ovechkin will not have to pass up

1384
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 6: an opportunity to go for the record breaker against an

1385
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 6: empty net the way things are going right now. Coming

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01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 6: up today, about an hour and twenty minutes from now,

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01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 6: the Women's National Championship game from Tampa between South Carolina

1388
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,799
Speaker 6: and Yukon. Today's major League Baseball action just getting underway.

1389
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 6: The Arizona Diamondbacks up scored an early run at the

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01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 6: top of the first inning at Washington. A short time ago,

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01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 6: the Los Angeles Dodgers placed left handed pitcher Blake Snell

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01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 6: on the injured list with left shoulder inflammation. Finally, guys,

1393
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 6: it was discovered yesterday that the Pittsburgh Pirates had surreptitiously

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01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 6: removed a tribute to Roberto Clemente on the white field

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Speaker 6: wall at PNC Park and replaced it with an advertisement

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Speaker 6: for a Philadelphia based company that sells hard tees and lemonades.

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Speaker 6: Well today, Clemente's son, Roberto Junior, issued a statement reading,

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01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,759
Speaker 6: in part quote, I was shocked this change was made

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Speaker 6: without any communication with our family. While we appreciate that

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01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 6: the Pirates acknowledged their failure to inform us, it reveals

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01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 6: a broader issue, a lack of meaningful collaboration between the

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01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 6: organization on matters that are deeply personal and historically significant

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01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 6: to us and our fans. Unquote, guys, back to you.

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01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 1: Thanks Halo at Isaac Low and gron. I saw that

1405
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: story starting to make the rounds Dan, and I mean

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01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: there's a statue there's a lot of commemorating of Roberto Clemente. Yeah,

1407
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 1: and I guess I can't tell you how to feel.

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01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: It's one of my old mantras in all of this.

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01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: But is that the worst thing in the world.

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01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,799
Speaker 2: I think it's the thought process that hurts. Somebody obviously

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01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 2: went to someone and said, you can get X amount

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01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: of dollars for this advertisement. Where do we put it?

1413
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: What about if we take down the Clemente sign, let's

1414
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 2: do it. I think that's the part that hurts. That

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01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 2: the the the okay, let's sign off. It's the I

1416
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 2: get the lack of communication as well. I would I

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01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 2: would hate to make that call. Sure, just the heads up,

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01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 2: But I get what you said they I think there's

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01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 2: the street you know that. I mean, there's there's.

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01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: A lot of commemorating of there. And it's not to

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01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: dismiss it, right, and yes, you should mind your p's

1422
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: and q's, send notices, et cetera. It's also going to

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01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: be a bunch of executives. Sure, vertical clement is a name,

1424
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: like it's not. I don't think it's decisions being made

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01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: by a bunch of folks who are really necessarily grasp.

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01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 2: You just come back with a bigger and better way.

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01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 2: That's all you do. So now the ball is in

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01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: the pirates court, keep that up, figure out a bigger

1429
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 2: and better way to do it to make everyone happy.

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01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: Well, to put it in perspective, they had the opportunity

1431
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: to pay one point one million dollars to get that

1432
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: Paul Schemes autograph card. Dick's Sarting Goods bought it instead.

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Speaker 1: He's Dan Byer. I'm Mike Harmon here, Fox Sports Radio.

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01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: Coming up next the long Lead. Dan's getting rebped up

1435
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: for the Masters. So we got that, and then we've

1436
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,879
Speaker 1: got all these promotions in baseball. Who's the next costume

1437
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: character to show up to throw out a first pitch

1438
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 1: for your team? We'll talk about it next year on

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01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 1: Fox Welcome back in Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio,

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01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: Mike Harbin, Dan Byer, finishing up with you, coming up

1441
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: in ten minutes. You got Hartman and Husky for everything

1442
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: they've got to yell at each other about. But we've

1443
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: got big stuff going on in the sporting universe. We've

1444
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: we've been waiting on it, building it up. So let's

1445
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: turn it over to Isaac Lohencron to tell you all

1446
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 1: about freaking news from Fox Sports.

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01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 6: Alex Ovechkin of the Washington Capitals has just broken the

1448
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 6: NHL's all time goal scoring record. Here's how it sounded

1449
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 6: just moments ago from John Walton on w a JF.

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01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: Right side to Wilson shattered up.

1451
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 2: Oh that skin has any stars?

1452
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:10,759
Speaker 7: He stares alex so Betstan Star Saint ninety five.

1453
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: There's a new.

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01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 7: Goal scoring champion and his name is Alexander.

1455
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: Oh bet'stan.

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01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,879
Speaker 7: He has done it here on Long Island.

1457
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 1: His teammates bob him.

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01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 7: There is but one Alexander. The greats, the greatest to

1459
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 7: ever do it in National hockety League history.

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Speaker 6: The goal at seven twenty six of the second period

1461
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Speaker 6: as Washington now trails the New York Islanders two to one.

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01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 6: But again, alex Ovechkin now the leading goal scorer in

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01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 6: NHL history with eight hundred and ninety five.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Iilo. I was gonna make a joke

1465
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 1: about the White Sox taking a lead on Detroit as

1466
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: the breaking news. The White Sox have a lead and

1467
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty five game. Boy, he had an awful

1468
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: lot of space on the ice.

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01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 2: He sure did, And I'll tell you what the scene

1470
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 2: right now on Long Island of seeing all of the Islanders,

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01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 2: this is this is an end of playoff series handshake line.

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01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 2: Every member of the New York Islanders is shaking Ovechkin's hand.

1473
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: At mid ice.

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01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: They've unfurraled a giant. We're in the middle second period,

1475
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 1: exactly seven twenty sixth of the second and we're stopping down.

1476
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: They're rolling out a blue carpet. We've seen the eight

1477
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: ninety five. This is a full mid game stoppage. Yeah,

1478
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: this is insane. This war taking the rounds.

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01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 2: This warrants it. By the way, I think this is

1480
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: this is totally fine with me iliasorkin am I pronouncing

1481
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 2: are correctly. I'm not sure the Islanders goalies the one

1482
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 2: who gives it up. He and Ovechkin have a great

1483
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 2: exchange because he's the last one in line of that

1484
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 2: handshake line.

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01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: She should keep that pucked. Well, it's very fight me

1486
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: for It's very.

1487
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 2: Picturesque right of not wanting to give up that home

1488
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 2: run because you're going to be there. The look on

1489
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky's face knowing that he does not have to

1490
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 2: follow Alexandervechkin around the country anymore, priceless, Absolutely priceless.

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Speaker 1: He leave the building right now. He shook his hands.

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01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 1: They had a quick exchange, maybe about ten seconds or so,

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01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: and then he walked off. Novechkin got back to hugging

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01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: everybody else. Do you think Wayne Gretzky leaves the arena

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01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 1: right now?

1496
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 2: Alvekin may leave, Like, what's the point of playing. Let's

1497
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 2: take take the rest of the day off. Relax, this

1498
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 2: is over it. You don't play again until Thursday. Enjoy this.

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01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about all of this in the

1500
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,839
Speaker 1: middle of a game. I do no completely.

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01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: I'm board for it. This is it in the game

1502
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 2: of hockey, all time goalscorer. Absolutely. Gretzky's in the building.

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01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: Has it less yet for sure?

1504
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: Standing off to the side. I think that's the guy

1505
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 1: he's asking. He's asking the coach, Hey, can you get

1506
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: my driver? I have to pull up in about ten.

1507
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 2: Minutes, Wayne Gretzky, had said. Gordie Howe followed him in

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01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 2: terms of when Gretzky was about to break his record.

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01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 2: He felt that it was the right thing to do

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01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 2: with Alexandrovtchkin, such.

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Speaker 1: A huge moment, record breaking here on a beautiful Sunday

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Speaker 1: Morning Fox Sports Sunday. He's Dan Barr at Dan Byron Fox,

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01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 1: who's winning the Masters?

1514
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 2: Is it Rory's time? I'll tell you what I think

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01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 2: that he's somewhat informed. He's going to be the story

1516
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 2: next week. You're always going to go Scheffler and whatnot,

1517
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 2: but Rory makes it tick.

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Speaker 1: There you go at Dan Byron Fox to follow it all,

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Speaker 1: find me over at swollen Down. More on this record

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Speaker 1: breaking moment next on Fox Sports Radio