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Wink wink, it's free wine glasses. 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Let's make it a date. R s v P today 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: for a Crate and Barrel Private Registry event at Crate 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: Barrel dot com Slash Stores Slash Events. This is the 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast with on our radio. Hello, 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: wonderful Bachelor in Paradise viewers, it is actually here this 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: well today and Ben we'll be with you tomorrow and 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Gass with me today. I love him so much. He's 18 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: one of my very favorites from the franchise. Well, I 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: have to be, because if I'm not, then you made 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: a seriously wrong decision. My husband Jared Haven is my 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: co host today? Can you introduce me as the host 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: of Help by Second Dating? Your husband? Everybody knows I'm 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: your husband. I feel like, uh, maybe a fourth of 24 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: the listeners know that I host help by Second Dating 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: in my heart radio podcast A shameless plug over here 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: with my co host Dean and Vanessa. Okay, hey, but Jared, 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: isn't it kind of silly that you're the title of 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: your podcast? And how by Second Dating? Do you think 29 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: of yourself as the guru on that podcast? Well, we 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: all kind of are, because it's myself, Dean who's in 31 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: a relationship now, and Vanessa who's been in a relationship 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: for about a year now. So we're all not sucking 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: that badly right now, even though I definitely at times 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: second dating, which I think you can attest to. How so, 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: give an example of when you suck. I can think 36 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: of one. What, Yeah, there's plenty of times. How many 37 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: times do you and I pick her back at forth? Sometimes? Well? 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: I just want to be touched all the time, Yes, 39 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: you do. Moving forward, anyway, we're not here to talk 40 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: about us. We're here to talk about Bachelor in Paradise 41 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: because there was a great episode that aired last night, 42 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: which was one of my favorites of the season. I 43 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: think so, I guess we should start with the first breading, 44 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: which has to do with your co host Dean and 45 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: how maybe he doesn't suck at dating so much. I 46 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: think he sucks. Me still kind of sucks. He still 47 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: kind of sucks because he's It still took him like 48 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: a couple of days out of Paradise to realize that 49 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: he missed someone and that he couldn't let her go. 50 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: What was that romantic? I think it was super romantic. Oh, 51 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: it's a grand romantic gesture. It was even brought up 52 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: in Paradise. Someone said that, Um, does that mean he 53 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: doesn't suck at dating because he pulls off a grand gesture? No, 54 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: you can still suck at dating. Um, I'll stop saying 55 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: that now. But let's recap so Dean from It was 56 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: left off last episode and then it picked up this 57 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: episode where Dean came back for Kalin because he missed her. 58 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: He shaved the mustache. He looked like a stunt. He 59 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: looked like good Lord might have looked the best he 60 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: ever has on TV. What is that face? But also 61 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: what is Calyn's face? The two of them them flashing 62 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: between the two of their faces in their eyes. I 63 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: said yesterday on Twitter, I was like, you too need 64 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: to have children because I need to see the eyes. 65 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: That would be creative. They are two very, very beautiful people. 66 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: And Dean walked down with the black button down short 67 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: sleeve and his hair blowing and his eyes were just 68 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: piercing blue, no mustache. I was like, good god, poor Connor. 69 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: As soon as you see Dean's face. And Connor is 70 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: a very very good looking human being and he's got 71 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: he's jacked. My god, when he stood up next to Calin. 72 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: When so, when Calin was talking to Dean at the 73 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: day bed, and then Calyn said, I gotta go talk 74 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: to Connor. She went to David with Connor, and Connor 75 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: gave up and gave her a hug. That dude is massive. 76 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: He is, but you notice his muscles because I didn't 77 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: even think about that. I'm just so like, I'm just 78 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: so team Dean in this. But I feel like I 79 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: feel bad almost for not having as much sympathy for 80 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: Connor as they I should. Well, he's just super tall, Jared. 81 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: I think it's his height. He's like he's like six 82 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: he's like six five. He's a big, big boy baby 83 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: as a guy. You noticed that because when I look 84 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: at Connor, I think to myself, Man, I gotta get 85 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: in the gym. Man, I gotta start working out again. 86 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: But anyway, I appreciate it. I love you more anyway. 87 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: UM So, when I actually think, I wasn't sympathetic towards 88 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: Connor because I am so team Dean obviously, but I 89 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: was very sympathetic towards Connor when he started talking to 90 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: Kalen one on one, because I think that was his 91 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: best moment I've ever seen from him on television. He 92 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: was very articulate, he was strong, he in his opinion. Uh, 93 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: he didn't back down because I feel like a lot 94 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: of those moments, um, the guy or the girl will say, well, 95 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: you just gotta, you know, follow your heart and if 96 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: you want to go with him, that's great. But and 97 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: then he was like, no, I want you to stay. 98 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: And I really like that from him, and I thought 99 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: that he did such a good job explaining to Kaylin 100 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: exactly how he felt and why he wanted her to stay. 101 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: I really really enjoyed Connor in that moment. And it 102 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: was in that moment where I thought to myself, Oh no, 103 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: I feel bad for Connor. Oh no, because I wanted 104 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: to obviously a hundred percent team Dean, which I still 105 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: wanted Caitlin to leave with Dean, But in that moment, 106 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: I thought he was so good and I was like, wow, 107 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: that was that was a great moment for him. I'm 108 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: the worst because all I was thinking was is Okay, 109 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: when can we get back to Kaylin and Dean. Well, 110 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: I think you're coming from the vantage point I just 111 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: choose I've already seen them together in person, and let's 112 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: be honest at that, and even just coming across on TV, 113 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: everybody knew it. In Paradise, she had a stronger connection 114 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: with Dean. They had more chemistry. Yeah, they had more 115 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: like intellectual and emotional chemistry. I think she had a 116 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: lot of physical chemistry with Connor. Yeah, but she has 117 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: a lot of physical chemistry Dean. I think she just 118 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: had a better I mean, all three go to Dean, 119 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: but I don't know that she was like connecting emotionally 120 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: and intellectually as much with Connor. She did like how 121 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: safe he felt, because he felt super safe, like he 122 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: wasn't going to screw her if anything Calin was gonna 123 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: end up screwing Connor in that relationship totally. She had 124 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: the power within that relationship, and then I think in 125 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: the Dean relationship with Calin, she's letting go of the 126 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: power because I think it's pretty clear that Dean has 127 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: the power at least in that moment, because she's just 128 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: very I'm not gonna say in love with him, but 129 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: very very uh enamored body. And I like the fact 130 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: that most of the cast was just like, yeah, I mean, 131 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: this is undeniable. I thought Haley put it perfectly where 132 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: she was like, I'm so sad for Connor, but I'm 133 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: also so happy for Calin. Indeed, I don't know how 134 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: to feel. I thought that it just kind of a 135 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: capital encapsulated how everybody was telling in that moment, which, man, 136 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: we feel bad for Connor, but we also see what 137 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: Dean and Calin could potentially have, And I think it 138 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: was also a growing moment for Dean. Um A lot 139 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: of people have accused Dean of being this uh playboy 140 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: guy who kind of bounces from a relationship to relationship, 141 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 1: can't stay with one girl for a long extended period 142 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: of time, and I think it was a really nice 143 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: moment for Dean to come back and say, I need 144 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: to stop running away from the things that make me 145 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: happy in life. And there's a lot of things that 146 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: I need to work on, but I want to work 147 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: on them with you, and I want to try to 148 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: figure this out together. Um. And I thought it was 149 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: just honestly, I thought it was a great moment for 150 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: all three people. Umklin is getting a little bit of 151 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: flak today, Can I say that, like, wait, wait, what 152 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: the hell you guys? Just because I know people are like, oh, 153 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: Calin is just so dumb for choosing Dean over Connor. 154 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: Doesn't she know she's going to get hurt through this? 155 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: And it's like does that really matter? Like, shouldn't she 156 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: be going with the person that you like, really have 157 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: strong feelings for, even if it's more of a risk. 158 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: Who wants to be comfortable? Even Dean said something like 159 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: who wants it easy? Who wants it easy? Like that's 160 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: so weird. I think the easy means passionless. Um, yes, 161 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: I would agree to a certain extent. I think. Yeah. 162 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: The problem though, sometimes when you go for the hard thing, 163 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't work out right and then you're hurt. But 164 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: boo who like, I don't know why so many people 165 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: on this show constantly are afraid of being hurt, Like, 166 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: obviously it sucks, but like, is it really that great 167 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: if there's not that fear there? Well, I'm going to 168 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: make an analogy for you, because I'm glad for all 169 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: the pain I went through with you, babe, I'm not 170 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: I wish that I was better from the beginning. I 171 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: think personally, I had to go through a lot of 172 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: growing pains as an individual, and I think I needed 173 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: to see things in a different light. And I think 174 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: actually similar to Dean. I think Dean is very afraid 175 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: of commitment because he's afraid of hurting people, um, because 176 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: he knows himself um. And I think maybe Dean's a 177 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: little different in this, But for me, personally, I think 178 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: I was always afraid to show a very vulnerable side, 179 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: not only to you, but to a vast amount of people, 180 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: because I was afraid that they were going to figure 181 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: out I wasn't good enough. And I'm curious if Dean 182 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: thinks the same thing. And that's a very real fear 183 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: that a lot of people feel. And I think that 184 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: it took me seeing you as someone else to realize 185 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose the best thing that's ever happened to 186 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: me because of my own insecurities, And is am I 187 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: gonna let my insecurities be the downfall of me? And 188 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: in that moment I was able. I'm very proud of 189 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: myself in that moment to rise to the occasion and 190 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: jump fully in with you. Um, instead of always being like, oh, well, 191 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if it could work out. And you know, 192 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: she lives in l A and I live or an Island. 193 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: She's so emotional and can I handle someone like that 194 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: all the time, And instead of being like Jared, it's 195 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: never gonna be perfect. You either dive in or you're 196 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: gonna end up alone. And I think Dean had a 197 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: flash of that as well when he was away from 198 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: Paradise and he was missing Calin and he probably knew 199 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: that Caitlin and Connor were hitting it off. And I 200 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: think that's why Dean went back to Paradise rather than 201 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: trying to reach back out to Calin when she left. 202 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: That would have been a lot more mat stuff. Well 203 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: not I think it would have just been a higher risk, 204 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: have been a higher risk, but also like it wouldn't 205 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: have been as romantic. No, yeah, it wouldn't have been romantic, 206 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: And um, so I think Dean it was a growing 207 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: moment for him, And um, I think Klin is not 208 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: getting just flat for picking Dean, but I think she's 209 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: also getting flag for the fact that a lot of 210 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: people don't think she was that sympathetic towards Connor. May 211 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: have been something edited out and there it was already 212 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: a very long scene. They couldn't just show her going 213 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: back and forth and back and forth. I want to 214 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: give her the benefit of the doubt and saying that 215 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: she probably went over to Connor. Don't you think that 216 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: he really found out, um, from the two of them 217 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: just making out in front of him. You think that's 218 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: how we found out that she really really chose Dean. 219 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a great question. I think it's 220 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: can answered that. I think there's a high probability that's 221 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: how he found out because Klin never said she was 222 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: leaving with Dean prior to that moment, so Jean never 223 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: truly knew, And when she said yes, Dean re acted 224 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: with such happiness that he just kissed her. So I 225 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: could totally see Connor fully not knowing until that moment um. 226 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: And I don't really blame Kalen or Dean for that 227 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: because it was their moment. Uh, it sucks, but that's 228 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: kind of the name of the game a little bit 229 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: within paradise. Um, I had to propose in front of 230 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: your X. It's not the thing I wanted to do, 231 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: but it worked out that way. Unfortunately, Dean probably didn't 232 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: want to kiss Kalen in front of Connor, but he 233 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: either kissed her in that moment because it was such 234 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: a great moment, or he was or he put you know, 235 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: or he was thinking of Connor was like, well we 236 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: shouldn't kiss right now, and kind of ruin the moment, 237 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: Like it just sucks. But Connor is going to be fine. 238 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: He's a great looking man. He's got a lot going 239 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: for him. Um. I am stunned that when we'll we'll 240 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: talk about this later. But when rev came down, she 241 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: didn't immediately ask Connor because he was the most single 242 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: one of the beach. Uh. She he was like the 243 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: sixth one she talked to. It's it seemed like anyway 244 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: what we saw on TV. It's interesting I said before that, Um, 245 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: the hurt was worth it. And even if we didn't 246 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: end up together, the hurt has still been worth it. 247 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: I just I want to know what you guys think 248 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: out there is this fear of being hurt too overplayed 249 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: on the show, because doesn't hurt build character and ultimately 250 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: lead to where you should be? Well? I also think 251 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: her means you went for it, went for it, went 252 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: for it means you exhausted all the like options, right, 253 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: And I think that if you don't do that, then 254 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: you're always going to be left with what if. And 255 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: I know that I've said this many times on this podcast, 256 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: but I think in love, in career, you should always 257 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: exhaust all options because you never want to think back 258 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: and think what if. Of course, don't we always exactly 259 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: don't We always love the people on these shows that 260 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: put their heart on their sleeves and go for it 261 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: because I think, as a person watching it, we want 262 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: to be like that person. We want to be the 263 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: person that wears our hearts on the sleeves and goes 264 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: after what we want. But we're also scared um and 265 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: so I think that's why people that do that on 266 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: the show are so loved, because it reflects what we 267 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: want to be like. And you know who's doing that 268 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: right now, j p J. We are going to talk 269 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: to Haley Um, somebody who dated JPJ, about her feelings 270 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: on that man. Right after this break. Jared and I 271 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: are obviously still getting some gifts in from our Creton 272 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: Barrel registry. We have the most wonderful things, and that's 273 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: one of the things that we're working on now now 274 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: that we're home, is decorating our apartment, like putting all 275 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: of the registry items away and well not away, but 276 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: on display, and making our house our home now and 277 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: a home together, not a home that Jared moved into 278 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: and like a girl retreat that my sister and I created. 279 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: It's now our home and we love the crane barrel 280 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: items that we've gotten. We were able to schedule a 281 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: private registry event when we started to get our Creaton 282 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: Barrel registry put together. So these events is something that 283 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: Creating Barrel hosts at their stores, where Creating Barrel experts 284 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: take you and your fiance around the store and they 285 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: offer tips and expert advice on the best items to 286 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: add to your wedding registry. They're gonna ask about your 287 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: style and what your needs are, whether or not you 288 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: have to furnish an entire home or really stock a 289 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: kitchen or a bathroom, or whether or not you have 290 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: a few pieces already that you want to work around. 291 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: So each couple gets to leave these events with a 292 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: special gift um which is a fun takeaway to remember 293 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: the experience. And you're gonna feel really good because you 294 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: would have gone around the entire store and really kind 295 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: of like designed what you want your house to look like. 296 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna leave and you're gonna be like, Wow, we're 297 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: gonna get this done one day. It's not like some 298 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: gigantic undertaking of like where do we get started in 299 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: making this house our home? This expert that's gonna bring 300 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: you around Crton Barrel is really going to help you 301 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: make your vision become a reality. 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This is down the list it's like 309 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: number four or five, a little thing called zip Recruiter. 310 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: I don't know why I have so much fun saying 311 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: that he's below the zippercruiters, below Tom Brady recruiters Supercruiter. Now, 312 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to give a little bit of background on 313 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: zip recruiter about a man named Dylan Miskowitz who's a 314 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: real zip recruiter customer who used zip recruiter to hire 315 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: for his company, Cafe Altera. As we all know, hiring 316 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: could be a slow process, and Dylan from Cafe al 317 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: Turn needed to hire director of coffee for his organic 318 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: coffee company, but he was having trouble finding qualified applicants, 319 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: so he switched to zip recruiter dot com. Zip recruiter 320 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: doesn't depend on candidates finding you, It finds them for you. 321 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: It's technology identifies people with the right experience and invites 322 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: them to apply to your job, so you get qualified 323 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: candidates fast. Now, Dylan posted his job on zip recruiter 324 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: and he said he was so impressed by how quickly 325 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: he had great candidates apply. He also used zip recruiters 326 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: candidate rating feature to filter his applicants so he can 327 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: focus on the most relevant ones and that's how Dylan 328 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: found his new director of coffee in just a few days. 329 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: With the results like that, it's no wonder that four 330 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: out of five employers who post on zip recruiter get 331 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: a quality candidate through the site, including Ben Higgins. Ben 332 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: Higgins uses it for Gender's coffee. They're saying that four 333 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: to five employers who post on zip recruiter get a 334 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: qualified candidate through the site within twenty four hours. That's insane. 335 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: So you find your perfect employee on the first day, 336 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: and you can see why zip recruiter is effective for 337 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: businesses of all sizes. Like we said, Ben runs Generous Coffee, 338 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: which all of you know he uses zip recruiter to 339 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 1: find his employees. Now you can try zip recruiter for 340 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: free at zip recruiter dot com, slash ben that zip 341 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: recruiter dot com slash b e and zip recruiter dot 342 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: com slash ben zipp recruiter the smartest way to hire. 343 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: So we are back to almost famous. This is obviously 344 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: not Ben Higgins, this is Jared Haven uh. So we're 345 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: gonna have Haley on the phone before we do that. 346 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: Any final thoughts on Dean and Kleen leaving Paradise together. No, alright, cool. 347 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: I just want to say I'm very happy for them. 348 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: I wish them well. It's something that I feel like 349 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: needs to be said. Very happy for them, I wish 350 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: them the best, and I really like them together. I 351 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: really like them together too. Okay, well, now we got 352 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: Haley Ferguson, who I actually think has made more Bachelor 353 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: Paradise appearances than any other Bachelor cast alum. Haley, Hi, guys, Oh, 354 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: hey Haley, Hey Haley, how Art thou good? How are you? Guys? Congratulation? 355 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, Haley, you really you know you were. You 356 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: were an integral part of our lives during a very 357 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: different part of Jared in my life, during the ultimate 358 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: complication of it off screen. Yeah, that was probably one 359 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: of the points where we were furthest apart probably and 360 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: half years ago. They can't believe it. Yeah, but you 361 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: guys always knew, like literally, you and Emily would always 362 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: be like, you guys are too weird together. This is 363 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: he's supposed to be with you. I always had a 364 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: feeling that you guys would end up together. I'm just 365 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: it was just a matter of time. Yeah, it truly 366 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: was just a matter of time. So we you know, 367 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: We've been rooting for you since the very beginning. You're 368 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: one of the most lovable characters on this franchise. You've 369 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: been on three seasons of Paradise, first season three with 370 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: us and then you made a brief appearance with Emily 371 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: season but this season four, which was the hectic season 372 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: with Karen, and then you're back now solo, which I 373 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: think we all love the fact that you are solo 374 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: right now. I think you're getting I think the people 375 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: like to seeing you independent right now. So, Haley, describe 376 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: how this Paradise experience is without Emily by your side. Um, 377 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: this Paradise experience has been a lot different for me. Um. Personally, 378 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: I felt like I was ready to do something on 379 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: my own and just kind of put myself out of 380 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: my comfort so. Um, So doing this season without Emily 381 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: was definitely like uncomfortable for me, But overall, I feel 382 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: like I learned so much about myself as an individual, UM, 383 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: and like I was just able to make friends with 384 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: the girls without having Emily helped to do so. And 385 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: so personally, I feel like it was a really good 386 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: thing for myself. During Bachelor in Paradise too, when I 387 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: brought my sister on I was like, how amazing is 388 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: this going to be? To date with my security blanket 389 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: to steer by my side, you know, And then I 390 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: realized that I just kind of weighed me down and 391 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: it didn't get me far. It actually pulled me back 392 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: from the rest of the cast because I didn't really 393 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: need to make friends because I had my friend um 394 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: and I think that with you and Emily, you guys 395 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: set each other as crutches. Yeah, like I was able, 396 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: I kind of had to force myself into the friend 397 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: groups that were already created because a lot of these 398 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: girls were on the previous like they were on Colton 399 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: season together, or like they knew each other from other 400 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: events that they have done to other. So I feel 401 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: like I just went into it with no friends, so 402 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: I had to force myself into like making friends with 403 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: some of the people. No, that makes sense, And honestly 404 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: it makes If I was down there with you know, best, 405 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: the best guy friend, I would have just hung out 406 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: with my best guy friend and never put myself out 407 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: there to make new friends that could potentially turn into 408 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: partners in the future. So I can totally understand why 409 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: you think that maybe it was probably better for you 410 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: guys to separate and you go to Paradise all by yourself. Um, Haley. 411 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: So we've we've we've seen over the past couple of 412 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: days that John Paul Jones um saga with Taysha uh 413 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: and then Derek who has obviously since left. We haven't 414 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: really seen your point of view on it. Well, we 415 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: did see her call him out big time last week, 416 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: and that was that was a Haley moment. Everybody was 417 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: clapping at home. You just called him out. Tell us 418 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: about your frustration with JPJ, because when we saw you 419 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: at the wedding, you guys were flirting. You had just 420 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: gone on your first day and you're really liking him, 421 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: and it seemed like he liked you. But I know 422 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 1: that he was probably a little bit more torn Um. 423 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: But I definitely didn't know that he had such strong 424 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: feelings for Tasia based on what we saw at the wedding. So, 425 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: and I think you are lost as well, because he 426 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: wasn't being super upfront. So honestly, I was just totally 427 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: thought JPJ and I were fine. We were hanging out, 428 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: we were spending lots of time together, and it felt 429 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: like he was super into me. Um, And like at 430 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: the rose ceremony where he gave me his rose, Like 431 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: he told me like that he's never had such an 432 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: instant connection with anybody in his entire life, because he 433 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: was definitely like building my ego up and making me 434 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: feel really confident in what we had. So at the wedding, 435 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: like when I was talking to you, actually I felt 436 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: super confident in like what JPJ and I had. And 437 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: then I just woke up that next morning and Derek 438 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, um, he had super strong feelings for 439 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: Kasha and I like, you know that feeling like when 440 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: your stomach just dropped in your you are just completely shocked. 441 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: That's totally how I felt when he said that to me, 442 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 1: And like instantly my guard went up and I was like, 443 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: am I crazy for thinking that we had something special? 444 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: Like I I started thinking that I was mental, like 445 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: that I was losing my mind, and then so I 446 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: start you start overthinking everything and then you're like, Okay, 447 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: well why don't I just go talk to him and 448 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: get some clarity. So our first conversation, um, I went 449 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: into it like he didn't approach me. I had to 450 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: go up to JPJ and like ask him what was 451 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: going on? Yeah, I remember you pulled him into the yeah, 452 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: and I just like I felt that that was I 453 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: wish that he would have told me first. I hated 454 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: that I had to hear from somebody else. Um, So 455 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: I was just really frustrated, I think in general, the 456 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: fact that he just wouldn't open with me, Like I'm 457 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: infolded when people feel like they can't be honest with 458 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: me because I'm a super understanding person and like, I 459 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: get the whole idea of paradise is to be other people. 460 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: So I honestly was just insulted that he didn't feel 461 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: comfortable enough to even come up and talk to me, 462 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: agc honest with me. So at first I was like, Okay, well, 463 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: I just want to clear the air. And then at 464 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: that nighttime he was talking about Tatia and stuff in 465 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: front of me and like getting all upset about the 466 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: Derek situation, like saying that Derek is just using Tatia 467 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: for his podcast and stuff, And I was like, why 468 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: are you so upset with Derek when, like Derek nor 469 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: I had any idea that you had such strong feelings 470 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: for Tasia, Like we were both blindsided about the fact 471 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: that you felt so strongly about Tatia. So at that 472 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: point I got a little heated. So that's when I 473 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: called him out. And then when he called me like 474 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: you're a big girl, you know, at that moment, I 475 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, like, don't be condescending towards me. 476 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: So I kind of freaked out a little bit. So 477 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: who is j p J. Is he this lovable guy 478 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: who it's like just as as a hopeless romantic or 479 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: is he this selfish, kind of backstabbing guy and I 480 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: am I exaggerating there does extremes? Or is he a 481 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: bit of both? I would say overall JPJ is literally 482 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: the kindest and sweetest guy like you'll ever meet. He's 483 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: definitely awkward and weird and goofy, but I love that 484 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: about him. But overall, I think that JPJ was just 485 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: in a really awkward position. And this is only the 486 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: second time he's done a show like this, and he 487 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: didn't make it super far on Hannah season, I don't 488 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: think so. I does don't think he would used to 489 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: all of this, and especially because he was only dating Hannah, 490 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: like now he was here in Paradise dating multiple women. 491 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't think that he knew how to navigate it correctly. 492 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: And while I think that he handled my situation poorly, 493 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: I overall think JPJ is like the lovable guy that 494 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: everybody fell in love with at first, and I have 495 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: no hard feelings towards jpg A. He actually reached out 496 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: to me recently and apologized for me everything that he did. Um, 497 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: and he truly is a great guy. Okay, wonderful. Yeah, 498 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: that's the vibe I get too. I get the vibe 499 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: that he's so sweet, very nice, very caring and giving, 500 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: which was obviously exemplified last night when he did the 501 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: prompt thing for Tasia. But I also get the vibe, 502 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: and I don't mean this in a disrespectful way, that 503 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: he's just immature. Yeah, he's just a little loss in 504 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: this environment. I mean, it isn't very natural to be 505 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: dating multiple people on the same strip of land. Yes, 506 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: I think he was also immature within the Derek situation. Uh, 507 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: And then I think with the Hailey situation, and so 508 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: I think John Paul Jones also recognizes that, which I 509 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: don't think is a negative thing, because we all have 510 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: our faults, and as long as we are aware of 511 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: them and try to work on them, then there's I 512 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: don't see anything really wrong with that, right? All all 513 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: with good intentions pretty much, It's kind of like Dean. 514 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: I feel like Dean makes a lot of mistakes, but 515 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: he's like always has like the best in his heart. Yeah, 516 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: I mean they do say the past totally grew on me. 517 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: He's the best. Oh, that's right. You were on the 518 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: season with him when he was in the love trying, 519 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: but you're like a big thing with him. I actually right, 520 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: And I was not a big fan of Dean for 521 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: the longest time, Like I actually didn't like him, and 522 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: to follow him on social media and that's as possible. 523 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: That's the worst thing you do, someone not following on 524 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: social media and the Bachelor franchise. So yeah, he totally 525 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: grew on me. This season's a great one. So, Haley, 526 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you so we could put it 527 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: to rest once and for all, because you've seen both 528 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: these people close up personal in person. Does Lucas and 529 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: Nick vill look that much alike? They do not look 530 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: that much alike. All I can. I see the similarities, 531 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: but like not even close. So I've been trying to 532 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: crack this code. Why is it that they look similar 533 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: but also not the same at all, it's just the texture. 534 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: It's the hair texture. I think it's like it's even 535 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: like the bone structure like in their faces. Totally different 536 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: and like obviously so I mean Lucas kind of has 537 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: dad body, Like well, all the other guys were working out, 538 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: we guess like would not work out with them. So 539 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: you ended up giving a rose to Lucas or did 540 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: Lucas did? Yeah, so what's your relationship like right now? 541 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: Because right now on the show, we didn't see much 542 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: of you two last night, but it's still continuing. Yeah, so, um, 543 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: you guys have to tune in tonight to see what happens. 544 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: But um, as of right now, Lukes and I are 545 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: still talking. Are you kissing? Because you're like actually pretty 546 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: conservative when it comes to who you kiss on the show. Yeah, 547 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: I definitely conservative. I don't know what's going to happen 548 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: on tonight's episode, but um, Luke As kind of just 549 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: forces kisses on me, like I don't. I wasn't exactly. 550 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: I talked to Luke s and I was like, I 551 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: just don't know if my I'm there yet. Like romantically 552 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: with you, I know that like we've spent some time together, 553 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: but romantically I don't know if I'm that interested into you, 554 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: and and he just started making out with me, so 555 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: I think in hopes that that would see Haley Li 556 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: said this earlier in the In the show, we're talking 557 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: about the Dean and Connor and Kaitlin love triangle and 558 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: how you just kind of put it perfectly into one sentence. 559 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: How did you feel when she left with Dean? Oh, 560 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: my gosh. So it's so funny because I was super 561 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: torn between Dean and Connor. They're both great guys. I 562 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: think that Connor was most definitely in the facist choice. 563 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: But knowing me and like my personality, I would have 564 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: one percent gone for Dean too, Like I would have 565 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: left with Dean too, because who doesn't like somebody who's 566 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: a little bit edgy, a little mysterious. And also I 567 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: saw like how the passion between Kaitlin and Dean was 568 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: just so like they were perfect for each other before 569 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: he leve up, and I loved them together. So, I mean, 570 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: I honestly feel like she made the right choice. You're 571 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: basically every woman I was super happy for because I 572 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: do overall feel like she made the right choice. But 573 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: it was a tough decision, right Why do you think 574 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: that like the other girls who are like sort of 575 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: single in the house aren't going for Connor at this point. 576 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people didn't go for Connor 577 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: because he was so upset and like he was also 578 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: I was hitting it off with Whitney at the wedding 579 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: and he was hoping Whitney would come down. Oh oh 580 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: a little behind the scenes there that very cool. They 581 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: were floating up the wedding. I hope when he comes 582 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: down for him, even though he went on the day. 583 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: Isn't it too late for somebody to go down right now? 584 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: I guess. I guess she came down, but isn't tonight 585 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: like make it or break at night? So I always 586 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: think it's silly. This last week we were like, why 587 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: are they even sending people down at this point? Just 588 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: let it breathe. That's hard. That's how I felt on 589 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: the season when I came down on season four and like, 590 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: why am I here right now? Yeah, you're not off 591 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 1: walking in late. You're not even going to shake things up. 592 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: Things are too far along or like people are ready 593 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: to leave anyway. Yeah. The problem is everybody's already so 594 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: exhausted from the entire process of being there, especially if 595 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,239 Speaker 1: you're there from the first day that if you're one 596 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: of the final people come down, it's really hard to 597 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: muster up that energy to be excited to meet someone new, 598 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: because not that you're over it, but you're getting there. Um, 599 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: so Haley, you were oh totally so, Haley, you are 600 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: now teaching pilates in Las Vegas. Tell us a little 601 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: bit about that. A congratulations. Yeah, I started, Oh, thank 602 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: you so much. I'm super excited about it. So I 603 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: actually grew up being pilates as a physical pharmacysical therapy 604 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: for my scholiosis, and I fell in love with it then, 605 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: and then I kind of just you know, became super 606 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: lazy and when we're working out for a long time, 607 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: and then I got back into it and then decided 608 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: that I wanted to eventually teach kids with scoliosis as well. 609 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: So I went ahead and I got my certification and 610 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm especially certified. That's awesome. Congratulations, Hailey, were super excited 611 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: for you. You and Emily actually inspired me to start 612 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: going to pilates. And while it's been quite a while, 613 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: let's say, you know, it's the only form of exercise 614 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: I actually don't dread doing like even though I do 615 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: not go, I was anymore. I was, Lenna say, I 616 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: gotta be honest, I didn't know that you like doing 617 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: those What do you mean you know that? I always 618 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: say like I should really just continuously go to pilates. 619 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: It's saying something and actually doing something or two different things. 620 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: But you know, it's my most enjoyable form of working out. 621 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: And it was because I saw Emily and Haley doing 622 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: it so much on Instagram that I did start going 623 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: and my eyes were open to it. Okay, and I 624 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: should back in the sing of things. But go take 625 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: a class with Haley. I will, I mean, maybe we'll 626 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: learn I hurt festival. Maybe I'll teach you. I would 627 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,239 Speaker 1: like that you do way fancier things than I do. 628 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: And before we let you go, Haley, I just want 629 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: to see how my Instagram are totally fancy. Yeah, I 630 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: know that's awesome. Sorry, like bendable, um, you're like gumby um. 631 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: But before we go, I want to tell you that 632 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: my sister's boyfriend, Um, he like talks openly about how 633 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: attracted he is to you and Emily to Lauren. He 634 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: he thinks that you guys are aliens sent from another 635 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: planet to spread joy and beauty to the world. It's 636 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: pretty true. Oh my gosh, are you kidding me? I 637 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: think that because your sister is probably the hottest person 638 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. You guys have always been too kind. 639 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, because you're just like this. You really are aliens. 640 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: You really are two little, perfect looking specimens. I love you, guys. 641 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: I need to hang out with you all more often. 642 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: Surprised Jack with you next time you're in l A. 643 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: He'll die of a heart attack. We'll laugh so hard. 644 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: I don't know what he'll cry. He'll probably cry. Haley, 645 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. We are rooting 646 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: for you. We love you, and we wish nothing but 647 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: the best for you. Thank you, guys. I love you 648 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: guys so much. All Right, bye, Haley, Bye bye. She's 649 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: the sweetest, She's so cute. Haley and Emily. I mean, 650 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: I know, I mean, I'm just really rooting for Haley. 651 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: It sucks to like the whole Lucas thing. I mean, 652 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: judging by what she was talking about, I don't think 653 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: it goes anywhere, which is sad because I really would 654 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: like happiness for her. But if we're going to call 655 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: Luke as a doppel ganger. He's not let's even call 656 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: him that. Okay, let's not call him that. But why 657 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: can't Haley and Nick be together? I think that we've 658 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: been saying how long, I know, but have we said 659 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: it publicly? I just kind of want to put it 660 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: out there. And I'm sorry, Nick, if this annoys you, 661 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't he but he comments on her Instagram all 662 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: the time. Can we just put it out there that 663 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,479 Speaker 1: they should have a hacked Nick's thirty ninth birthday isn't 664 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: two weeks and he might at that. I don't like 665 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: hearing that. But should we come up with a pact, 666 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 1: like at the age should like be the age should 667 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: be for Haley? You should be Haley's age? Yeah, let's 668 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: do Haley's Haley's twenty six. Nick doesn't age. So when 669 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: he's like Tom Brady, Yeah, the dude looks twenty seven, 670 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: he's going back. He is the real life Benjamin Button. 671 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: So let's say that when Haley's thirty. I don't know 672 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: how old Haley is now, she's I just said four years. 673 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: That's way too long. Seven. She's got what when's your birthday? 674 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: Uh's her birthday? She's got a year Let's give her 675 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: a year from now. If nothing happens in the year 676 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: Haley and Nick get married, so many people are going 677 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: to be like, you're going to give her till twenty 678 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: seven to find her person. I found you at seven, 679 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: many years. I just want this to happen, though. That's 680 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: why I'm expediting the process. I think it makes sense, 681 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: makes sense to be going. She's funny, she'll try and 682 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: him she'll you know, and he loves a good back 683 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: and forth, he does. And he also needs someone who's 684 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: a little easy going. But she's going to do it 685 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,959 Speaker 1: in a playful way, not in an angrily way. No. Yeah, 686 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: and he also needs someone to give back to him. 687 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: She's like a very nice compliment to him. Anyway, we 688 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: should stop talking about it because I'm sure we'll get 689 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: text miss later on today. So let's move on. Okay, 690 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: let's take a break first, and then we have to 691 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: talk about Blake and Christina, who, so people are saying, 692 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: is the next version of us. Let's discuss Hey, Jared, 693 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: does my chest look good? Right now? I know it's 694 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: not good question to say. Say then an inappropriate question. 695 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, of course it always looks good, but 696 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: it looks particularly good right now, looks fantastic. Thanks, It's 697 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: because I'm wearing my Third Love bra. Oh I love. 698 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: Third Love really makes some perk. Good job. Okay, I 699 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 1: was wondering how you're gonna like make this seem tasteful. 700 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: Third Love is a fan fantastic bra company. They use 701 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: data points generated by millions of women who have taken 702 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: the fit Finder quiz, and they designed bras with breast 703 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: size and shape in mind for the perfect fit in 704 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: premium feel. 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Alright, babe, 756 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: So last week, remember how Blake all of a sudden 757 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: was like she's been here all along she's been here, 758 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: right in front of my eyes, under my nose, and 759 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: I didn't realize until now I'm meant to be with Christina. 760 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: And I think, like a lot of people are like, oh, 761 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: Blake is either like getting delusional in Paradise or he's 762 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: desperate for a rose, or I guess there's a very 763 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 1: slim percentage that he actually means this. And then this 764 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: week watching them and all of his excitement and giddiness 765 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: of a Christina and how many tears he shed when 766 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 1: she left Paradise and broke up with him, I was like, oh, crap, 767 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: he's been genuine. I believe that he's been genuine. And 768 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: I actually think that like Blake, for as bad of 769 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: a rap as he's gotten throughout this season, has remained 770 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: pretty genuine. And again, I think it's one of those 771 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: situations where it's like he messed up a lot, but 772 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: he's only had good intentions at heart. Yeah, it's I 773 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: don't know, no. I mean they say that the path 774 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: to hell is paved with good intentions, and I think 775 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: that could be used to describe Blake's Paradise experience, because 776 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: I do think Blake is uh. I think he's very 777 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: nice I really do. Um, And he's been nothing too 778 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: nice to us, and anytime I see him, he has 779 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 1: been very personal. I think he's messed up a lot. 780 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: I think Blake is the guy that just got in 781 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: over his head. You know, he finished second on becka season. 782 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: Everybody loved him, was reaching out to him, you know, 783 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 1: was worth. I mean a lot of people were probably 784 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: throwing themselves at him. Um. And I think he just 785 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 1: got in over his head. Uh. And so I'm not 786 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: excusing his behavior. He needs to take responsibility for it. 787 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: And I think he is as of right now. Um 788 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: And I what. I think it's like he got wrapped 789 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: up in that playboy lifestyle. Right. But I think he's 790 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 1: such a hopeless romantic when he lets himself feel. I mean, 791 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's romantic or not. How does 792 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: somebody know, you don't think so. I think that he's 793 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 1: just being aware of his downfall. And I don't think he's, 794 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: let me say this. I don't think he's trying to 795 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 1: do it to save face. I think he is being 796 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: honest in the moment and truly thinks that Christina is 797 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: someone he could see a future with. I do believe that. 798 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,479 Speaker 1: I can't call him not a hopeless romantic. Think about 799 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: how he reacted on Becca season. When he falls, he 800 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: falls hard. And I don't understand how somebody can be 801 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: a playboy and a hopeless romantic at the same time. Though. Ah, right, 802 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 1: that doesn't go together. I see it in your face. No, 803 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: I mean it can go together. I mean life is gray. 804 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: Life is in the gray area. It's not like you 805 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: can be one thing. It's not like you're either a 806 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 1: good person or you're a bad person. Each person has 807 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: both good and bad within them and capable of doing both. 808 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: Sounds like you've been watching a lot of Star Wars. No, 809 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I mean I do watch a lot 810 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: of Star Wars, but I'm just saying that everything is 811 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: not black and white. For example, Blake can be hopeless Manti. Sure, 812 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, but that doesn't mean that he can't 813 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,479 Speaker 1: have mess ups that pertains to relationships in women. You know. Um, 814 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: And so I do believe Blake in in the moment 815 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: with Christina. I think he really wants to try to 816 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: make it work. Um, I think he goes a little 817 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: bit overboard, even when he said I could see Christina 818 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,479 Speaker 1: being the mother of my children. Don't you think that's 819 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 1: what everybody goes south for everybody. It's like as soon 820 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: as you say, like, I see marriage with this person, 821 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 1: then it immediately scoots forward to the scene in which 822 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: that person is breaking up with so and so. Of course, 823 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: the show does a fantastic job of setting it up, 824 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, because you just see it coming, because you 825 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: know the producers. Isn't the producers in the room. And 826 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: it's like, can you see having a life with Christina 827 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: with children in marriage? And then he goes yeah, and 828 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: they're like, can you put that in a full sentence? 829 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,760 Speaker 1: I can totally see life of errors and children with Christina. 830 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Christina has had a few moments 831 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: that I've been frustrated towards. And I like Christina. We've 832 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: met Christina a few times and she's been very personal 833 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,240 Speaker 1: and kind towards us, and I like her as a person. 834 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: But I think there have been a lot of moments 835 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: within this Paradise season uh that haven't been her best. 836 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: I didn't like when she went up to Dean earlier 837 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: in this episode and tried to insert herself in that 838 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,439 Speaker 1: situation by saying Dean was selfish when he was coming 839 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: back for Calin. Yeah, I just I just didn't think 840 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: that it was really needed for her to come over 841 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 1: and tell him that, Um, because he was coming form 842 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: Calin and not Christina. Wait what about when she's told 843 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: Calin she was like, if he does you wrong, I'm 844 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 1: I'm going to back you up, even though we've had 845 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: our differences. Um sure you know, yeah, girl code, I 846 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't mind that. I like that. Like I said, 847 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't that that I minded. It was just her 848 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,919 Speaker 1: like make seeking her way over to the day bit. 849 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: And maybe you know, maybe that wasn't like her initial thought. 850 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: Maybe somebody was like, hey, go over there and talk 851 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: to Dean. But who knows. Um. But within this moment, 852 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: I think I've been frustrated with the whole Christina and 853 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: Blake thing because I think, for my opinion, I don't 854 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: know this for a fact. Obviously, I don't think she's 855 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: really ever been into Blake this entire Paradise season. Um. Yeah, 856 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure where people are saying she loves him, 857 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: like she's so in love with him, like that's her guy, 858 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: and like I was like, I don't really see that. 859 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: I I've always no, I think and I think we 860 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 1: were proven right this episode where he was actively trying 861 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: to show her that, hey, I'm only here for you, 862 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: and I know that I've messed up, but I really 863 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: want to take time to build this relationship back up, 864 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: and I'm willing to be patient with you because I've 865 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: done so much, you know, wrong towards you. Um and 866 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 1: from the very beginning when she not at the beginning 867 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: of the season, but when she finally gave him that 868 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: rose and said she wants to work towards a relationship 869 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 1: with him, I it was just it did seem like 870 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: excuse at excuse you after excuse of her continuing to 871 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 1: tell Blake, you know, you need to keep working harder, 872 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: you need to show me, you need to show me, 873 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 1: and she kept saying it, and at a point, I 874 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: think for me, I thought, Okay, well you need to 875 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: start opening up a little bit because he's actively trying 876 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: and I understand Christina's hesitations, but throughout that that this relationship, 877 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: I just thought to myself, Christina, you have to start 878 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: letting him a little bit more. And then it came 879 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: to a point where she continued to say it, where 880 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 1: I thought to myself, is this an excuse does she 881 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: not like him? And then obviously when they you know, 882 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: he did this grand Jester, Uh, she obviously said I 883 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 1: don't see this going anywhere and never really gave it 884 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,919 Speaker 1: a shot. So I to me, it kind of made 885 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: me think maybe I was right, and maybe she didn't 886 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: really like him and kind of was just putting it off. 887 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: I wonder what their relationship was like last fall when 888 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 1: they were dating in real life, and I wonder what 889 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 1: her feelings were like. Then we'll have to have both 890 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: of them on and talk about what that was, because 891 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: even though I don't think they were ever like exclusive, 892 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: they were like dating to a certain degree. I feel 893 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: like talking a bit. So Yeah, and maybe Christina couldn't 894 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: just get over it, you know, maybe she was like, 895 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm too hurt pipe blake to what he's done in 896 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: the past, and there's nothing wrong with that. What my 897 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: point being is whether that was the case of her 898 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: not liking him here or if she just never really 899 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: liked him. Either way, I just I guess I didn't 900 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: really or she was like, we've been there, done that. 901 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: I didn't. We didn't feel it enough in real life 902 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: to revisit it again now, Yeah, which is why I 903 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 1: guess I was confused when she kept saying, um, you 904 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: have to show me, or was it was just more 905 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: of I guess I didn't like because it was a 906 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: little like you gotta show me, you gotta show me. 907 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: And then I thought to myself, I was like, I 908 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: wonder if she is she she likes him enough to 909 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 1: see a relationship because I just don't see it. Maybe 910 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, maybe I can't see it. And then obviously 911 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 1: it came to version last night where she told him 912 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: I don't see a future with you. So I got 913 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: multiple tweets last night saying that Christina and like could 914 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: be you and me, because I guess everybody makes but 915 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: fourth you know, as in like they were together and 916 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: they're not together, and they were together and they're not together. 917 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 1: But I mean, I we didn't feel this. But then again, 918 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: so many people watched us and they were like, that's 919 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: never gonna happen. But I really don't think this is 920 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Each relationship is different, each person is different everything. 921 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: You know, everybody likes to make comparisons in life. Uh, 922 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 1: so I I don't see a lot of parallels between that. 923 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: But um, I do also want to say with the 924 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,760 Speaker 1: Christina thing and the Blake thing. I'm really glad that 925 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 1: they ended up both leaving because I looking good. I'm 926 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 1: glad that they both left like looking good the same. 927 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,839 Speaker 1: And I think Christina, I'm really glad she didn't stick 928 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 1: around after telling Blake it wasn't gonna go anywhere. I'm 929 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 1: glad she left. I think it was a really good 930 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,360 Speaker 1: move by her. Um. And then I think Blake the 931 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 1: same thing once he found out it wasn't gonna work out, 932 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: kind of you know, go his merry way and leave Paradise. Uh. 933 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: I will say there was a little part of me 934 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 1: that was quite sad to see Blake go. I'm just glad. 935 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm just glad that Blake got over the hump and 936 00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: that he left Paradise looking like a sympathetic character. We 937 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,240 Speaker 1: actually want him to find love again because he seemed 938 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 1: to have like, really developed feelings for Christina. I think 939 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: Blake's just a character. He's been a very prominent character 940 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: on this show, and from an audience member, uh, you know, 941 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: as as Blake's friend, I obviously want him the best 942 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 1: for him and hopefully he can grow from this experience 943 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 1: and get better, but also just from pure entertainment standpoint. 944 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: Seeing Blake leave, I thought to myself, Wow, that's it 945 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 1: almost felt real to me that the show is coming 946 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 1: to a conclusion, because I was like, Wow, Blake's gone, 947 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 1: Blake's gone. I think you thought deeper about your feelings 948 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 1: than I did, because now listening to you say this, 949 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,720 Speaker 1: I found in that moment of him leaving myself thinking 950 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: I wonder if he'll come back next year, Like thinking 951 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: like a little part of me wanted him to come 952 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 1: back next year. Yeah, there's some reason. I think we 953 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: both felt similar. For some reason, we were quite sad 954 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: to see Blake go. I think he's you know, listen, 955 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: he did a lot of wrongs and caused a lot 956 00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: of drama, but it was also entertaining. And I also 957 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: think like, uh uh it just you can kind of 958 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 1: feel the season coming to an end, and uh I 959 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: think that really came hit home with me when seeing 960 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,760 Speaker 1: Blake leave, I'm like, wow, yeah, it's already almost over. Crazy, 961 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 1: You're sad Paradise is over. I think it's for some reason, 962 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: it reminded me of Word has a very complicated relationship 963 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: with Paradise. He wants to watch it and he hates 964 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 1: watching you at the same time. It's tough. I don't uh, 965 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: I don't watch every minute of it. It's a tough 966 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 1: not the show itself is fantastic. I'm not he experienced it, 967 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: you guys. It's not because like he doesn't think it's 968 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 1: a good show. It's like it comes with a lot 969 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 1: of way with Jared's a lot of baggage, you know, uh, 970 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 1: us going through it, all the drama that we had 971 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: to go through, the stress. Uh, It's it's sometimes hard 972 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 1: to watch back because you immediately insert yourself back into 973 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: that moment that you were in while experiencing Paradise. And 974 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: I think, honestly, uh, that's why maybe the Blake situation 975 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: I felt a little bit sympathetic when he left was 976 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: because I remember, uh, I can't remember exactly which person 977 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 1: it was that left when we were on Paradise, but 978 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,240 Speaker 1: it felt the very same way where I was like, wow, 979 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: that person left. He was here from day one, like 980 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: who I forget, but it was like, wow, they're gone, 981 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: this is almost over. And for some reason I felt 982 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 1: the same way towards Blake yesterday. Weird. I know, I 983 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: don't have to think about who that was, but first 984 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: we have to take a break. After the break, we're 985 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: going to talk about Demi and Christian, Chris and Katie 986 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 1: and Matt McDonald. Just be in this sought after man, 987 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: Matt McDonald, stay tuned. Okay, this is the coolest internet 988 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,760 Speaker 1: thing out there. You guys. I know you're shopping online 989 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: all the time. We see all these malls are closing 990 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,879 Speaker 1: because everybody's just shopping online. Um, nine out of ten 991 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: times pretty much beats going out to the store. And 992 00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: then you get there and then they didn't have what 993 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 1: you wanted. So then you just go online and you 994 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: order it. It's to your door like two days later. 995 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: But did you know that nine out of ten times 996 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,720 Speaker 1: you're actually overpaying when you shop online, That is, unless 997 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: you're using Honey. Honey is a free web browser extension 998 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,800 Speaker 1: that helps you save money wherever you shop online. 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I'm like, why do you send me 1009 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: coupons anymore? I'm not going to use them, but I 1010 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,839 Speaker 1: will use them if I found them online. And um, 1011 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 1: Honey pulled up this amazing discount for me for um, 1012 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: this comforter that I was looking for to match our 1013 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 1: new office which has a day bed in it, if 1014 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,240 Speaker 1: you guys really want to know, um, And it was amazing, 1015 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,280 Speaker 1: and I was very very thankful for Honey for pulling 1016 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,240 Speaker 1: that up. And you should know that the average Honey 1017 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 1: user saves about a hundred and twenty six dollars per year. 1018 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: So it's basically a pair of air pods or a 1019 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six one dollar tacos. For all those 1020 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 1: taco lovers out there, you guys, email Jared. He's a wacko. 1021 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,879 Speaker 1: He doesn't really care about taco tacos. You like, like them, 1022 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: but they don't do anything for you. It's really weird 1023 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 1: to me. Anyway, Listen to you, guys, there's really no 1024 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: reason not to use Honey. It's free to use. It 1025 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 1: installs on your computer and just two clicks, and it's 1026 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: going to save you money. So you can treat yourself 1027 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: to something nice like all those tacos. You can get 1028 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,760 Speaker 1: Honey for free. Joint Honey dot com slash famous again, 1029 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: that is, join Honey dot com slash famous. All right, 1030 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 1: let's zip through a couple of little things. Connor and 1031 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 1: Rivian are on a date that seems like it was fine, 1032 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 1: but also like why well, I mean, like, come on, 1033 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: there's nothing obviously going to happen. Why I mean, there's 1034 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,239 Speaker 1: no chemistry between him? I mean, I'm sure. I mean, 1035 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 1: rev is A is a beautiful woman. She was on 1036 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 1: Colton season. She had blonde hair on day one and 1037 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: she came back with dark hair and she looks fantastic. 1038 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that she didn't asked Arnor to talk first. Uh. 1039 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: It seemed like she kind of went through the cycle 1040 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 1: of guys and it's like, well, Connor is a very 1041 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: good looking single man right now, they should snag him. 1042 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm glad they went on the date. It was very 1043 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 1: I don't even know what they did. The it was 1044 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 1: like a scooter date. It was very very short. It 1045 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: was like a four minute date. They're like, yeah, it 1046 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: was fun, cool, and they ended up kissing and that 1047 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 1: was it. There was really nothing between him. Tonight is 1048 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 1: the episode in which people really have to like make decisions. 1049 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,239 Speaker 1: I think, why you throw somebody in even if she 1050 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 1: is so beautiful. I mean, it's tough, right because he's 1051 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 1: just getting over the heartbreak of Kalin rev comes in late. 1052 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was just a tough situation. Uh you 1053 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: know so. I mean it's really hard to build on 1054 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: anything at this point in Paradise when you just meet 1055 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 1: Matt Donald. He is such a heartthrob right now. He's 1056 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 1: like Josh Hartnett of Paradise. I don't know why, just 1057 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 1: Hardnet like throw a heartthrob out there, like a little 1058 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 1: outdated there. I like being outdated. I like my nineties heartthrobs. 1059 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: Matt McDonald getting massages from Sydney and he's he's hanging 1060 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,839 Speaker 1: out Brie. I mean, just what is it about him? 1061 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: Do you see something as a guy that I don't 1062 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 1: see as a woman. I think it's the purity of 1063 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 1: his purity, right, It's the innocent innocence of him. He's 1064 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 1: like the A Shucks guy, and you're like, oh, the 1065 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,399 Speaker 1: A Shucks guy isn't going to break my heart? Yeah, 1066 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,800 Speaker 1: the Stocks guy. He's so sweet and kind and funny 1067 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:43,320 Speaker 1: and innocent, safe and and especially worship me. Yeah, especially 1068 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 1: now in Paradise, everybody's coupled up. You want to be 1069 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: coupled up. There's this really nice guy. Why not. Chris 1070 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 1: and Demi kind of bonded over the fact that they're 1071 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 1: not outwardly affectionate. They're not like gonna be super vulnerable, 1072 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,320 Speaker 1: lovey dovey with their love interests. Can I tell you 1073 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: how much I love Chris season the best? I can't. 1074 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't love you guys. Remember but season two of Paradise, 1075 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 1: when he came in, he was drunk off his ass. 1076 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,800 Speaker 1: He like fell into the fire, and people were like, actually, 1077 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 1: you should give Chris Pokowski a try. And I'm like 1078 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 1: the guy falling into the fire because he's had fifteen 1079 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 1: tequila shots. No thank you, But so, I like, I 1080 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 1: didn't think highly of him back then, but I am 1081 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,760 Speaker 1: so in love with watching him right now. I love 1082 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 1: the because I find myself loving Chris POKOUSI I find 1083 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: myself loving Chase on the small air time. He's getting 1084 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: right now. I love him. I loved Derek on this season. 1085 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 1: I think there's something to be said about the guys 1086 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: growing up who are not old, they're not old at all, 1087 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: but like in who have been through this process, who 1088 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 1: are a little bit older, who are a little bit 1089 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: more I don't want to say ready, but just like, 1090 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 1: there's something about those guys that I truly love and 1091 00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,320 Speaker 1: seeing them on the season it just made me really 1092 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 1: like them and made me think, like, do we want 1093 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,240 Speaker 1: guys that age? Isn't it funny that Chase has only 1094 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,959 Speaker 1: been on JoJo's season and Gad I feel like he's 1095 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,879 Speaker 1: been such an integral part of the of the show. Um, yeah, 1096 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: that is super crazy. But Chris is great. He and 1097 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: Katie finally seemed to like have settled, like they're very 1098 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: happy that day with the big dramatic kiss in the streets. Yeah, 1099 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 1: and I loved I love that day because a lot 1100 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 1: of people, I feel like, throw the love word around 1101 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 1: on the on the show and they're always like, I'm 1102 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 1: falling in love with you, I'm falling and falling falling, 1103 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 1: And Chris was so real in that moment. Yeah, I 1104 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: loved it because it was such a moment. It was 1105 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 1: such a real moment. In real life, you don't have 1106 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 1: to have these stages where it's like I could fall 1107 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 1: in love and then it gets to the I'm falling 1108 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: in love and then I'm in love. Could you imagine 1109 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 1: if you did that to me, or like if anybody 1110 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: did that in real life, or it's like this is 1111 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 1: phase one, this is called falling. Yeah, it's it's just now. 1112 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm there sometimes for petitive when you see it on 1113 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 1: the show, and I think for this moment with Chris 1114 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: where he did such a good job of articulating exactly 1115 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 1: how he was feeling, because a lot of times when 1116 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 1: you see two people on the day, it's like you're amazing, 1117 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: You're perfect, I see a future, I'm falling for you, 1118 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 1: and then it's like this grand romantic moment and you're like, okay, great, 1119 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 1: that's adorable. And then then in this moment it was 1120 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: him and Katie and he was so real and talking 1121 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,919 Speaker 1: exactly how he felt and where he thought this was going, 1122 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 1: and he's like, I do see something with you, but 1123 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm not falling for you yet, and it was just like, 1124 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 1: oh god, it was such a good moment, I and 1125 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: mature Chris Pokowski. I mean, I was in from the 1126 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,440 Speaker 1: get go about Pokowski being on this season, and I 1127 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: feel validated because I love him on this season and 1128 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 1: I love him and Katie and Katie. First of all, 1129 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 1: he's hitting outside of his leg BECAUSI is a good 1130 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 1: looking guy. Katie is gorgeous, like she is Rking and 1131 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 1: because is a good looking guy. But he's batting out 1132 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 1: of his league. And I kind of love that, love it. 1133 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 1: I know, why do I love that so much? Because 1134 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 1: I love that she loves him for all that, all 1135 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 1: the inside, and and he looks like a damaged man, 1136 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, and I love that he's like he's like 1137 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 1: a romantic lead. He's like Noah in the second half 1138 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 1: of the note Book. He's damn this. And I'm like, 1139 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: I love guys who are damage. I love people her damage. 1140 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 1: And then here you have this like optimistic, beautiful young 1141 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,440 Speaker 1: woman who's like, I I want him, That's all I want. 1142 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 1: And then he's like, you see the future with you. 1143 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 1: I just don't know if I'm falling for you, and 1144 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 1: she's just like, I just want you. That's what I want. 1145 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 1: It's all right. Yeah, we kind of like love seeing this, 1146 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: like stunning girl going after somebody who like maybe the 1147 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 1: audience like doesn't understand why she's so hung up on it, 1148 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: but it's so great. Um. Okay, So last couple that 1149 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 1: we haven't mentioned yet is Demi and Christian. Christian is 1150 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 1: a touch person. She her first love language is physical touch. 1151 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 1: And Demi, who may may never have been a physical 1152 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 1: touch person when it comes to her love languages, but 1153 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 1: is expressing a little bit of insecurity because this is 1154 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: the first time that she has to show physical touch 1155 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 1: with somebody, with a woman that she's dating, so it's 1156 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 1: kind of uncomfortable for her in two aspects. Um, and 1157 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: she's feeling like Christian is flirting with other people, she's 1158 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 1: being touchy with other girls just you know. Christian assures 1159 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 1: her it's out of just friendship, and that's how she 1160 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: expresses her love and affection towards everyone, not just romance, um, 1161 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, romantic involvement. But I feel like Christian is 1162 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 1: she's so calming to watch, she expresses herself so well 1163 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 1: m and she's super understanding. How do you think they're 1164 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 1: going to get over this though? Um? Because I don't 1165 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 1: know if they're ever going to have this compatible love language? 1166 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 1: And why do you have that face on like you're 1167 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 1: really concerned about them? No, I'm not concerned about them. UM. 1168 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 1: I think watching it last night, it's a real concern. 1169 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 1: I think a lot of couple of couples go through 1170 01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 1: this where one person's love language is different than another. UM, 1171 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 1: and that's an obstacle you have to overcome. UM and 1172 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 1: you kind of have to work on. And that's kind 1173 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 1: of the basis of a relationship, right, compromise and sacrifice 1174 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 1: and working on something that somebody else needs and and 1175 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 1: so I on something that you may not innately have, 1176 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 1: but trying to provide it for somebody else exactly. And 1177 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 1: so I think last night I really liked the conversation 1178 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 1: that they were having because I think they were talking 1179 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 1: about something very real and that a lot of people 1180 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 1: can relate to. Um it did am I the only 1181 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 1: one that thought Demi was did she seem off like 1182 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: a little loopie? I don't know she was overtired, but 1183 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 1: on the date, I don't know. It was just I guess, like, 1184 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be fine, but just to 1185 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: play devil's advocate for a second, I'm worried if this 1186 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 1: is to play Devil's advocate, can you see them? Can 1187 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 1: you see this being an excuse for Demi to get 1188 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 1: out of this relationship because she's starting to feel uncomfortable. No, no, 1189 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I was kind of reflecting 1190 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 1: on my own, uh past when she was talking about 1191 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 1: how she feels uncomfortable being in a gay relationship in 1192 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 1: the public eye, because she always feels like is somebody 1193 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,960 Speaker 1: judging me, somebody looking at us and thinking that we're weird. 1194 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 1: And I've never obviously felt that I'm I'm a straight 1195 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 1: white male, you know. Uh, And so I think I've 1196 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 1: always taken that for granted that I've never even thought 1197 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 1: about looking at last night, Yeah, I saw that, and 1198 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,080 Speaker 1: I totally related to because I was thinking of the 1199 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 1: exact same thing in the moment where I've never had 1200 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 1: to deal with that that problem. And I've also never 1201 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: had friends, I guess my friend group. I'm very happy 1202 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: that I've been surrounded by such incredible people, because I've 1203 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 1: never really been surrounded by people that would look at 1204 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 1: that and say that's weird to see two people the 1205 01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 1: same second kissing. And so I think in that moment, 1206 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 1: I had to kind of take a step back because 1207 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 1: I've never been faced with that issue or have dealt 1208 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 1: with it, And so I think, yeah, again, it's just 1209 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 1: one of those things that, uh, you know, you feel 1210 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 1: for because you never want anybody to feel judged by 1211 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: the people that they love. Um, and sometimes we feel 1212 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,120 Speaker 1: like we're in such a woke society based on who 1213 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 1: we associate with that you don't realize that a lot 1214 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 1: of other people won't look at that the same way 1215 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 1: we do. Yeah, you go to certain parts of this 1216 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 1: country and it's like you're not even in the United 1217 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 1: States anymore. Uh But um, yeah, so I think it's 1218 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 1: certainly a real issue. Uh that you know, Demi has 1219 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 1: her own insecurities, and they're very valid and and and 1220 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,520 Speaker 1: and I think Christian was very honest with her, just 1221 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 1: not even knowing that that was an issue. Um. So 1222 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 1: I don't think this is any type of derailment in 1223 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 1: their relationship. I think they're going to be just fine. 1224 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 1: If anything, it's probably a good demonstration of how well 1225 01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 1: they're able to talk through their issues. All Right, we 1226 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,160 Speaker 1: got some fun emails I want to go through before 1227 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 1: we wrap up. Well, we got to talk about the 1228 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,760 Speaker 1: prom thing really quickly. I feel like we'll get a 1229 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 1: lot of flak. We don't even mention this. That was adorable. 1230 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 1: And not only wasn't an adorable, thoughtful gesture from JPG 1231 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 1: to Titia. I love the way that everybody joined in 1232 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 1: at the end. It was great. Wasn't that one of 1233 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 1: the sweetest moments of paradise you've ever seen? It was 1234 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 1: one of those moments that I thought, this, it needs 1235 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: to be more of this, because it was such a 1236 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 1: great moment to have every couple up there kind of 1237 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 1: together and dancing and having fun and letting loose. And 1238 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 1: this season has been so filled with heavy drama and 1239 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 1: serious moments. It was really nice to just see this light, 1240 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: loving moment where everybody was being ridiculous and having fun 1241 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,920 Speaker 1: and oh, we're at prom and it's just wonderful. It 1242 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 1: was so fantastic. Stick I had said in one of 1243 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 1: my recaps last week, I'm not sure if it was 1244 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 1: this one that I said, do you guys want to 1245 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 1: see more love and less drama? And I got multiple 1246 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 1: tweets last night being like, actually, you got what you 1247 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 1: wished for. There was more love in this episode between 1248 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 1: the Dean and Kylen thing. Because that was so romantic, 1249 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 1: um Chris and Katie and then the prom scene. Yes, 1250 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 1: this is definitely one of my favorite episodes of the 1251 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,439 Speaker 1: entire season. Very sweet in in JPJ. Do you think 1252 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 1: that himself? So you think it redeems him? I think 1253 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 1: it redeems him just because, like he remember at the 1254 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 1: top of the episode we were talking about just like 1255 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 1: going for it completely and the romance around like those actions. 1256 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 1: I think like he just is so into her. It's 1257 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 1: just a demonstration of like he doesn't even care if 1258 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 1: he looks like a fool sometimes. Yeah, I don't think 1259 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,800 Speaker 1: it completely redeems him. I think, well, I listen, I 1260 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,960 Speaker 1: love John Paul Jones. Okay, yeah, he doesn't redeem the 1261 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 1: way he acted with Derek. No, no, of course, I 1262 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 1: think Tatia should absolutely move for John because he's so 1263 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 1: enamored and possibly falling in love with her. But I 1264 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,160 Speaker 1: also think that there might be some issues within the 1265 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 1: relationship because of how John Paul Jones reacts sometimes to adversity. 1266 01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 1: But that's something very similar to like, you know, Dean 1267 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 1: and Kalen have things to work on. John Paul Jones 1268 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 1: a Tasia thing have things to work on. We have 1269 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,880 Speaker 1: things to work on Um. So that's why I don't 1270 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 1: think it like completely eradicates it, but they can move forward. 1271 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 1: I said that in too much of a way. He 1272 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 1: doesn't redeem him for how he dealt with the Derek drama, 1273 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 1: but it does redeem him in the audience continuing to 1274 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 1: root for him with Tasia. Um, sure, you know what 1275 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Like that moment was like, Okay, Tassia, give 1276 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 1: this a whirl. I mean, to be fair, everything he 1277 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 1: did towards Derek was in you know, for Tasha. Well, 1278 01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 1: but his arguming no, I agree. That's why I don't 1279 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 1: think because I think that he was being uh ridiculous 1280 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:59,040 Speaker 1: and absurd in the moment. And he even said so yeah, okay. 1281 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,200 Speaker 1: We got some good emails here. The first one is 1282 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:07,480 Speaker 1: from Dina. She says, I'm hoping for you to explain 1283 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 1: the Bachelor afterlife. That sounds morbid. It's been said that 1284 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 1: the Bachelor does not pay contestn's a lot of money. 1285 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 1: It's like Chris Harrison opens up the Prilli Gates a 1286 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,960 Speaker 1: heaven for us. The Bachelor doesn't pay their condesns a 1287 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,440 Speaker 1: lot of money because saw that funding love the experience 1288 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 1: often leads to opportunities after the show. But does a 1289 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,160 Speaker 1: person support them how does a person support themselves after 1290 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 1: the Bachelor? Like, what are Colton and Cassie doing now 1291 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 1: for a living? Well, I think first of all, we 1292 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,760 Speaker 1: should never speak on casting Colin's behalf. We don't know 1293 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 1: what they're doing. We know they're both hard working. Uh 1294 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,960 Speaker 1: we've I've only met Cassie once. I think met Colin 1295 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 1: a couple of times. Dude's a hard worker. Um, So 1296 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,960 Speaker 1: I know whatever they're doing, they're working hard at it. Um. 1297 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,920 Speaker 1: I think it's different for every contestant. It's very frustrating 1298 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 1: when we get tweets though, or or Instagram comments that 1299 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: say that we don't have a job, or like do 1300 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,240 Speaker 1: you have a real job, as if like you doing 1301 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 1: hosting and stuff isn't a real job, or if you're 1302 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,640 Speaker 1: having fun with your job that it's not a real job, 1303 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 1: or it's not actually hard work because we get to 1304 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 1: do a lot of fun stuff, but it's not like 1305 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 1: it's not all a big party our life. No. Um. 1306 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 1: I think it's just different work. Like I, you know, 1307 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:23,639 Speaker 1: I was working fifty hours a week, you know, grinding 1308 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 1: away before going on the show, and then continuing after 1309 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,639 Speaker 1: the show and I think you know, work has just 1310 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,400 Speaker 1: adjusted to what is best for me, what's best for you, 1311 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,160 Speaker 1: and what's best for us together. If you want to 1312 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,880 Speaker 1: like kind of recap with Jared and I have done 1313 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,599 Speaker 1: over the past twenty four hours. Jared hosts this sports 1314 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,599 Speaker 1: app called Hofer. He went on that on Sunday night. 1315 01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,559 Speaker 1: Go check it out. It's not just a sports app. 1316 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,439 Speaker 1: We do TV too, and it's really film. It's a 1317 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,839 Speaker 1: really cool you can do Bachelor, there's Bachelor in Paradise. 1318 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 1: Hofer to where you like submit your predictions for that 1319 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 1: night's episode and then you win money. Anyway, we're not 1320 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to plug it. Well, I mean I 1321 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 1: can if I want to. But you like it and 1322 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 1: you host. I love it because it's it's not only 1323 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,080 Speaker 1: sports up. So what pretty much happens? We asked you 1324 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,640 Speaker 1: as you ten questions, you give us ten predictions, you 1325 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 1: have a chance to win free money. It's a free 1326 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,599 Speaker 1: app to play, it's offer it's really fun. Well hosts 1327 01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, It's just it's something that I really 1328 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 1: truly believe in. Well, Jared was doing that. I flew 1329 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:20,880 Speaker 1: over to New York. I woke up. I had an 1330 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,600 Speaker 1: event at Fashion week did some promotional stuff, but you 1331 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,720 Speaker 1: didn't mag care about our day to day. I don't know. 1332 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 1: And then you were recording to podcasts over at I Heeart. 1333 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 1: Here we are recording another podcast at I Heeart, and 1334 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,599 Speaker 1: then we're going to rehearsal for an MTV reunion show 1335 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,640 Speaker 1: that Jared and I are hosting. We don't think you know. 1336 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:42,360 Speaker 1: It's a lot of miscellaneous stuff, but it's not just fun. 1337 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,200 Speaker 1: It's fun work. We work hard, but we have fun 1338 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,720 Speaker 1: with it. And we're very, very lucky and grateful for 1339 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 1: all the opportunities that the Bachelor has given us, that 1340 01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 1: is for sure. Thank you for your question. Next emails 1341 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,760 Speaker 1: from Carly Sunglasses in Paradise. We've noticed that no one 1342 01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,920 Speaker 1: wears sunglasses of Paradise. Is this avoid? Is this so 1343 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:05,799 Speaker 1: that the wait? Is this to avoid seeing the team? 1344 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm assuming product reflections. Yeah, it's a connection thing. Could 1345 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,439 Speaker 1: you imagine if you couldn't see the emotion and connection 1346 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,760 Speaker 1: behind somebody's eyes in Paradise? Yeah? I say a lot, 1347 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,519 Speaker 1: and I think everybody wants to see people lies when 1348 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 1: they're talking about love and relationships and all that good stuff. 1349 01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,400 Speaker 1: Didn't doesn't Dr Phil say something like communication? Is always 1350 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:33,599 Speaker 1: seven verbal because yeah, yeah, he says that could you 1351 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 1: imagine well with sunglasses? No, it makes perfect sense of 1352 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,120 Speaker 1: why they don't want cast members to wear the eyes. 1353 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,200 Speaker 1: Like I said, they're very telling and so you want 1354 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,360 Speaker 1: to see them. You see the love in her person's 1355 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:51,519 Speaker 1: eyes or they hate okay, um. This is from Caitlin. 1356 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 1: She says, have a few questions about Ashley and Jared's wedding. Well, 1357 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,680 Speaker 1: that's great because we're together here. First of all, wondering 1358 01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 1: if they took a type of dance lesson in order 1359 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,080 Speaker 1: for preparation for your first dance, and what tips do 1360 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,719 Speaker 1: you have for people who are currently engaged in planning 1361 01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 1: a wedding Like myself, we didn't take dance lessons because 1362 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 1: it is just one dance and we kind of like 1363 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,240 Speaker 1: dance around and parking lots and grocery store aisles all 1364 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:22,599 Speaker 1: the time, have him spin me everywhere, and my dress 1365 01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 1: itself kind of just danced for me. And honestly, when 1366 01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 1: planning your wedding, the last thing you want to spend 1367 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:33,200 Speaker 1: more on is a dance lesson. It's like, don't spend 1368 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,080 Speaker 1: the extra money, but like pretend like you know what 1369 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,080 Speaker 1: you're doing. Yeah, we did a couple of twirls. It 1370 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 1: was really fun. People were oong and eyeing, and they 1371 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 1: made us feel like we knew we were doing or 1372 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 1: at least doing a good job. And our other advice 1373 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 1: for any engaged couples planning a wedding currently would be 1374 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:54,200 Speaker 1: to make it your own wedding too. Obviously he's the best. 1375 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,280 Speaker 1: Somebody actually commented on the help my second dating podcast 1376 01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 1: was like stop at the wedding ads because I mentioned 1377 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,719 Speaker 1: Troy's name and I was like, that's not an ad. 1378 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,760 Speaker 1: We just really love Troy and what people to use 1379 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,640 Speaker 1: him for his wedding because we want him to do 1380 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,479 Speaker 1: every wedding and Troy was very much paid. Well, yeah, 1381 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,519 Speaker 1: that's besides the point, but um are My best advice 1382 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,840 Speaker 1: is to truly make your wedding as much about you 1383 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 1: as possible, and that means integrating your personality into every 1384 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,160 Speaker 1: aspect of it. And for Ashley and I, we worked 1385 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:26,880 Speaker 1: really hard on our wedding. We spent a lot of 1386 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:28,320 Speaker 1: money and we wanted to make sure that we tried 1387 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,679 Speaker 1: to make it our own as possible and personalizing. Even 1388 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,559 Speaker 1: something like David Cook singing, who's been so meaningful to 1389 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,880 Speaker 1: Ashley over the past ten to fifteen years or more 1390 01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 1: than that ten years, um, and to like we and 1391 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,960 Speaker 1: and our wedding planner, he did this, We didn't know, 1392 01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,960 Speaker 1: but they were like these detailed mirrors throughout the ballroom 1393 01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,360 Speaker 1: and cocktail hour that had inscriptions of quotes that we 1394 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,759 Speaker 1: really love. Um. And then to even like the band 1395 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,639 Speaker 1: playing Disney songs. Uh so we really yeah, we hand 1396 01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:01,800 Speaker 1: picked every song that was played at the wedding. So 1397 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: like details like that, like gets your hands on them, 1398 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,559 Speaker 1: there possible and you know what, and it makes all 1399 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,400 Speaker 1: the difference in the world because like for me personally, 1400 01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,880 Speaker 1: one quick story, I really wanted Shallow to be played 1401 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,280 Speaker 1: at the wedding because it's just the song that really 1402 01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,920 Speaker 1: pulls out my heart strings and hearing that played in 1403 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,800 Speaker 1: the ballroom live dancing to it was a moment that 1404 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. And I'm so happy that I asked 1405 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 1: that song to be played. And both actually and I 1406 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,680 Speaker 1: wanted that song to be played, and it was just 1407 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,759 Speaker 1: one of those things like I'm so happy we asked 1408 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,080 Speaker 1: because it created one of my favorite moments for the wedding. 1409 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,240 Speaker 1: So stuff like that that would be my best advice. 1410 01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 1: Don't be afraid to ask. Yeah, the moment, the musical 1411 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,479 Speaker 1: moment that I am so regretful for missing because I 1412 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:44,919 Speaker 1: had to go do my costume change was they dropped 1413 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 1: this curtain right after we did like some speeches, and 1414 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,439 Speaker 1: then they started playing Beauty and the Beast and I 1415 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,080 Speaker 1: ran upstairs and in the moment it felt like I 1416 01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,439 Speaker 1: was like Cinderella running up the stairs, and it felt 1417 01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,080 Speaker 1: very much like a fairy tale. But it was also 1418 01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,519 Speaker 1: a moment that I missed downstairs that I was regretful for. Ye. Well, 1419 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,240 Speaker 1: and all that stress will be worth it, and it 1420 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:09,720 Speaker 1: was incredible. Get good videographers and photographers to capture the 1421 01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,439 Speaker 1: whole thing, because you will miss moments and it'll be 1422 01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 1: nice to be able to see eventually. Definitely, I think 1423 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 1: everybody will have a photographer, but we had wonderful videographers 1424 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:22,880 Speaker 1: as well. So um, anyway, that's our wedding advice. Alright, guys, well, 1425 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 1: this is a fantastic episode. I love doing it with you, 1426 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:29,960 Speaker 1: Jared h taking with you. Ah well, thank you. I 1427 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,200 Speaker 1: love doing it with you as well. But also miss Ben. 1428 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,880 Speaker 1: We really miss Ben. Ben is just Benson's saying a 1429 01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,639 Speaker 1: weird on Twitter yesterday about the fact that I think 1430 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,680 Speaker 1: he may have worded it wrong, but he was like, 1431 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:43,160 Speaker 1: I hate the Patriots even more because Jared loves him 1432 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 1: so much. Well, I don't know, but I think just 1433 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,880 Speaker 1: everybody's really hating the Patriots right now. They just signed 1434 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,880 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. They beat down the Steelers thirty three to three, 1435 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:55,880 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh my god, here we go again. 1436 01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:57,960 Speaker 1: You guys. He's really brought me to the dark side. 1437 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,559 Speaker 1: I do. I just really love me five minutes with anybody, 1438 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,559 Speaker 1: they'll be a Patriots fan because I have a way 1439 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,559 Speaker 1: we have to do is watch any just go follow 1440 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,479 Speaker 1: Julian Edelman on Instagram. Yeah, you're gonna him. He's the 1441 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,800 Speaker 1: best best. Okay, we're so off topic anyway, let's not 1442 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 1: talk about that. But we've missed Ben and we love 1443 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 1: Bend and Ben's a freaking best, awesome person. Like I 1444 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:22,960 Speaker 1: can't tell you how much I appreciate that human being 1445 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 1: and him being at the wedding and there's just so 1446 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,840 Speaker 1: many moments that we had together and we don't hang 1447 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 1: I I don't hang out with Ben uh that much, 1448 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,519 Speaker 1: just because he lives in Denver, and it sucks because 1449 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,760 Speaker 1: every time I do, I realize how much I love 1450 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,680 Speaker 1: him as a human being, and I just wish I 1451 01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,559 Speaker 1: could spend more time with him anyway, that's mine. You 1452 01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,800 Speaker 1: guys are gonna get plenty of Ben tomorrow. He'll be 1453 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:48,280 Speaker 1: here recapping night two of Week six, and um, that's 1454 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,400 Speaker 1: all I got for you. There we go perfect. I've 1455 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:55,600 Speaker 1: been Ashley and I've been Charried. Follow the Ben and 1456 01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,440 Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio, or subscribe 1457 01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,120 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts.