WEBVTT - AFC Hierarchy Report 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:05.840 The Around the NFL Podcast has an open tab at 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:10.399 Huka Poose. Welcome back to another edition of the Around 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:12.680 the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus, and I 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.680 am joined by a room filled with some heroes. To 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:22.360 my left, Colleen Wolf, to my right, Greg Rosenthal. What's up, people, Yeah, 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:29.080 get ready for this show. I've got a lot of coffee. 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:33.320 Colleen does have a uh interesting energy here here today. 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:35.200 It's a little bit of buzz to her. She's doing 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:39.160 the live updates for NFL Network today, which means you've 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.720 been up for a long time. I've been up since five. 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.559 You're just on You're just on live television. You literally 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.920 ripped the handle off our door while you were on 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.680 their way to the bathroom. You pack a lot of 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.240 strength into that, the small frame of yours. Colleen, You've 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.840 you've left us trapped in here. Now I know at 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.840 least we have water that's good and all, and Sally, 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:05.200 we must feast on you if it comes to it. Alive, 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:10.120 Oh dear. This is the Thursday edition in Around the 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:15.800 NFL Podcast. Uh and we are excited to have Connie 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.479 with us, and we have as as I mentioned on Twitter, 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.560 if you follow on Twitter, and damn it, you should 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.360 a little later today. One of the voices, the behind 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.240 the scenes voices of the Around the NFL podcast, Frags, 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:33.760 is gonna join us, and also we'll have another we'll 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:38.760 have another UH satellite hero joining in via the telephone 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:40.080 at the end of the show. A lot to get 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.960 to it. They're excited about today's show. And also tonight 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:48.480 UH is the Commissioner's Awards party, the tenth annual even 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:52.000 another company function, another company function with an open bar, 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.600 which is good, best part of this time of year. Uh, Colleen, 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.360 you and I are going, and I promise videos. What 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:03.160 was Greg's zach reactions? Said? Greg? Do you want to come? Ye? 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.080 Who cares? I didn't say that. Why should I go? Though? 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:11.919 Who will be there? It's like I didn't see. First 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:13.600 of all, I got to bring Elise to her last 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:18.200 swim class. So if you're already back on the other 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.880 side of town, are you going to drive back just 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:25.320 for the second half of the thing and you live okay, 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.639 Santa Monica, but not that far. I think what I 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.200 said was there's gonna be a lot of people there, right, 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.440 that's the point. Yeah, that's scared. Does that mean just 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.160 like a large I don't like large groupings of people 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.600 are expected. That's why there's a barcie. I have a 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.799 couple of drinks. Let loose, will have some fun together, 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.960 all right. Yeah, I don't believe I don't come in. 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.040 This is like the time where the NFL Network Temph 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.960 anniversary party where we went and Greg didn't go, and 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:53.480 it was a chance to bond with Gregg. He was 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.440 kind of newer at the company and he just no 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.520 showed that that event, and we're like, what's going on 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.799 with this guy? And here we are five halfs later 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:04.359 and the same story. We need you, Greg, We want 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:05.920 you on that wall. We need you on that wall. 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:14.560 Come please come Greg? All right, comfortable? Okay. So that's 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:19.040 that's today's show. Um, So before we get into anything else, 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:23.160 So there is some actual news, legitimate news. Kind of 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.959 a good slash bad day to be the news lady today. 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:29.040 I know, this is my first day doing news updates. Wow. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:33.079 Claibon sits there all weak, you know, picking his nose. Yeah, 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.560 reading a Steven Seagal book that I got him. And 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:37.520 then here comes Connie Fox and all of a sudden, 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:49.720 the world blows up. Sally, let's hit some news. Um, Sully, 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.320 are you going to the party? Oh? Why not? You're 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.560 the life of the party. Your life of the party guy. Yeah, 0:03:56.240 --> 0:04:00.320 not feeling it. It's my Friday night. Okay, what does 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.040 Sully do on his Friday night? I have no plans 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.440 right now, but I'm not going to the party. So 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.040 you're skipping out on the party. It's your Friday night. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.360 There's free open bar and you have no plans. Yeah, 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.200 I'm with Greg, not not. I see you guys all day, 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:21.599 every day. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just hey, calm down, Sully. 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.200 I'll see you guys at Hananas afterwards. All right, Yeah, 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.640 let's move on and start with the biggest news of 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:33.200 the day. Uh. The contract that we have neatly avoided 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.279 throughout this spring is now a done deal between Derek 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:41.120 Carr and the Raiders. On Thursday, the two sides agreed 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.080 to a five year, one and twenty five million dollar 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:49.360 extension forty million fully guaranteed, seventy million and total guarantees. 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.240 Someone can explain that to me. I don't know, but 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.080 I know it's a whole mess of money for Derek 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:58.320 Carr and his great great great great great grandchildren uh, 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.640 Paul and a half million signing bonus to all. According 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.960 to rap sheet, UH, the deal puts Car over Colts 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.000 quarterback Andrew Lucky is now the highest paid player in 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:10.680 the league in terms of average money per year. And 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.600 this is all happening because Derek Carr played like an 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:17.159 m v P last year UH in his And you 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.239 know that's not even trying to get on Derek Car's 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.839 good side. That's strictly based on his production where he 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.280 led the Raiders to the precipice of the a f 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:28.040 C West title um before breaking his leg on Christmas Eve. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:32.320 But he's twenty six. Uh really is an excellent young quarterback. 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.280 And Greg, what does this tell you about the landscape 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.640 of the NFL that Derek Carr got this deal at 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:41.360 this time, Well, they had no choice. This is such 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:45.360 an awkward season for the Oakland Raiders, arguably the most 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.520 awkward season in the history of the NFL that any 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.719 team's tried to have. And they've been building up to 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.000 it for about fifteen years to have a good team 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:57.080 like this. They haven't had a homegrown quarterback to call 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.680 their own since Kenny Stabler, who left town twelve years 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:04.320 before Derek Carr was born and and right when this 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.719 is happening, they announced their leaving for Las Vegas to 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.839 so to have your best player in a contract situation 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.440 hanging over the team like that wasn't an option. And 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.039 I think this was an easy contract to do because 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.520 I think general managers like Reggie mackenzie and owners, I 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.800 think they all understand that quarterbacks are underpaid, that this 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.440 is not that much money for Derek Carr, that he's 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.640 worth more than this. Yeah, they I mean they had 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:30.320 to do it. It was just a matter of when 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.560 it was going to get done, so it was inevitable. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.320 And now it sets the market for guys like Matthew 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:39.840 Stafford and Kirk Cousins who I mean film Kirk Cousins 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.960 if he if he hits the free agent market, I mean, 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.559 he could be making thirty million dollars and like playing 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.240 with the forty niners. Yeah, it opens up to a 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.480 whole array of questions about who's worth this type of money. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.800 And Greg you Um wrote a column like a good 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.479 NFL dot com worker, b uh, talking about why all 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.480 these people like the first take type shows and everybody 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:05.320 that's gonna waste entire segments a blocks b blocks talking 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.599 about is this guy worth the money? Your your opinion is, 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.000 of course he is, just like almost every guy that 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.160 can throw the ball in this league should be paid 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.880 like this. Well, think about what would Derek Carr in 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:21.640 another world where teams actually allowed quarterbacks to hit free agency? 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.960 What would he get from the Browns or the Jets 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.560 or the Texas whatever team it's gonna be No, Seriously, like, 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:30.840 how much money do you think he would get if 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:32.920 he was on the open market. I think they're If 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.640 the Jets had a chance to get Derek Carr next 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:36.320 year and they don't even have to give up anything 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.760 in a trade, you just signed up, open up your pocketbook, 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.480 I think you could he would command probably something in 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:46.600 the range of thirty five million a year maybe. But 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.880 it's finally starting to make sense because the years we 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.760 talked on this podcast for years how quarterbacks are getting 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.920 paid less than top sluggers in baseball or NBA stars. 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.040 Now that money is starting to get where it should be, 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.840 right and think about them even compared to other players. 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:05.120 So Olivia Vernon's getting seventeen a year, that's only thirty 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.800 percent less than Derek Carr. Nick Perry, who I like 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.720 a lot as a pass Rushers has signed basically the 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.200 same amount of years this car for about half as 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.280 much money. How many Nick Perry's would it take in 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:20.760 a trade for you to give up Derek Carr? Like eight? 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:26.960 Like not? Like you know, and he's making half answers, right, 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.200 there's no answer. There's you know, complications with cloning and 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.679 morality and all those sorts of things. And this is 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:37.559 all not even mentioning the fact that there's a salary cap. Now, 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.800 what if there wasn't a salary cap? What if the NFL, 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:47.439 America's greatest game wasn't run essentially like you know, communism, socialism, 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.040 so these colors don't run. I don't like it talking 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:54.559 about football like that. It's one of the reasons why 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.760 the NFL is good. They share their profits, they cap 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:02.440 worker you know, wages. The franchise tag limits the movement. 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.720 Like if these guys actually could get like the rest 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.640 of the world, you know, their capitalists like what they earned. 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.600 I don't know. I think it'd be worth fifties seventy 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:12.600 million dollars a year. I don't know. These are billion 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.240 dollar companies. I would be interested to see how the 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.440 deal structured too, because I'm sure it's going to be 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.880 backloaded just so they can get deals done with their 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.200 guys like Gabe Jackson on the offensive line he has 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.200 a deal coming up, and Khalil Mack two. But also 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.839 not to mention that Nevada has no sales tax sales 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.720 and I mean they usually are, but I feel like 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.719 it might be even more so because that's going to 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.360 save him so much money. California is like thirteen point 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:41.800 three state tax. They they did, uh delay a lot 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.920 of the guarantees until later in the contracts so that 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:47.920 you could get and unlike a lot of NFL countrics, 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.760 when you sign these young quarterback franchise quarterback, I mean 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.560 he's gonna he's actually gonna get through most of it. 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.560 He'll end up signing a new deal for even more 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.800 with a year or two left. And what they do, um, 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.199 it's this is the both tells you the explosion of 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.720 of the league and the money involved, but also you 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.040 know the story of inflation, which Colleen will get to 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:11.280 when she anchors the Inflation Podcast later this summer. But 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.480 once upon a time, back in ninety six, the New 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.920 York Jets signed Neil O'donnald to a top of the 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.839 market five year, twenty five million dollar deal. Now we're 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.160 at five for one twenty five million. And I will 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.480 also add that the five for twenty five curse does 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:28.440 it carry to five for one? Is it? Is it 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:33.200 even worse? What will be fall are great leader, Derek Carr, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.480 I don't know. I hope nothing fair. New listeners, you 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.319 have a theory that five for twenty five million dollars 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.360 is a cursed contract. I want you to go through 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.880 every sport in the last twenty years, twenty five years, 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.280 starting when Danny Tardi Bill signed a five year, twenty 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.080 five million dollar deal with the Yankees in nineteen two. 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:54.320 O'donnald with the Jets. Who was that center for the 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:58.280 Vikings Sullivan? Uh five years? What a bad deal? That was? 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.760 Five for twenty five will get you every time, but 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:06.000 five maybe it's different. I think you're fine. Yeah, congrats 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.040 to you know, the car the Car family. It's been 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:10.520 a big year for him. I mean he gets on 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.280 the Around the NFL podcast and then this right there 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.120 at the two great things. I mean, this is a 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:19.079 guy who started his career uh, oh intent as a 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.440 in terms of the Raiders were oh intent there were 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.960 some doubts in this room. I was wrong. Uh in 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.680 my evaluation, I think of you if you think about car, 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.560 I think he's a very he combines being he's very careful, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:35.720 like he's he's composed and careful, doesn't take too many mistakes. 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.760 But then he combines that with he's like athletic enough 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:42.720 that when stuff gets crazy, he can improvise and just 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.360 kind of make it happen because he's that. It's like, 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.480 it's a nice combination. Um, and I do like it's 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.920 one of the one of the top jock Like fellow jocks. 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.480 Bit exchanges on social media after a big deal, and 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.760 we actually got to see it between the car brothers. 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:00.800 Our friend David reached out to our friend Derek and said, hey, bro, 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:05.319 lunch is on you next time. Uh can you imagine 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:11.040 like your little brother gets million dollar contract. Well, you know, 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:12.800 I would say I feel bad for David Carr, but 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:15.040 he's doing well and he's doing very well at NFL 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:18.400 Network and that that guy and I reached out to 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:22.960 Sydney about this privately. Last Friday, David got a haircut 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.760 and now he's better looking, which is not That is 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:32.680 not cool. David Carr was already a fantastic looking guy, 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.080 and then he gets a haircut. It's a little less, 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.360 a little less juice going on up top of the 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.440 part changed a little bit, and now we're an uncharted territory. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.120 Hair expert Dan Hands is chiming in. I mean, because 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.800 now he's nailed the hair and now the roof is off. 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.240 The first time that John saw him, he was like, 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.240 he came running over to me and was like, that's 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.800 the most handsome man I've ever seen in my life. 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.960 Here you're talking about let's move on. We should move on. 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.040 I can't just keep talking about another man that I 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.439 work with like this. I mean, it's fine, you should 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.520 talk to him tonight at the You've done it every 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:06.920 this week. You also made Patrick Cleavan visibly uncomfortable with 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:11.440 your lot. You know he can do all that good. Yeah, 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.920 I only have so much mercy upon nine and a 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:19.360 half's in general when we of my own gender Mark Chris, 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:24.120 and I've never heard any of these problems from you. Alright, 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.800 Moving on, big news in Kansas City, a huge shake 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:31.040 up there. Uh. First we heard that Andy Reid got 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.880 an extension, which you know was notable obviously, but not 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.600 surprising or stunning. But then we got the word that 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.640 John Dorsey, the general manager of the team, will part 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:46.760 ways of the team effective immediately, which kind of through 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.760 the football coat is SENTI for a loop, including one 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.679 Greg Rosenthal. Greg, this on a lot of levels. This 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.240 you know, there's got to be something cooking behind the scenes, 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.640 because this doesn't make sense. The Chiefs are the prime 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.640 model of having a front office getting it right, building 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.440 a team the right way, and now you get rid 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.960 of the guy that ostensibly is at the top of 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:12.240 the pyramid. It is stunning because I think I've said 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.640 on this podcast Dorsey and read I think I've had 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:19.440 the textbook example of coming into an organization that was 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:23.040 in bad shape in a lot of ways and immediately 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.720 flipping it, having a vision of these are the types 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:27.600 of players we're gonna go for, this is how we're 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.600 gonna coach sinking up and they immediately flipped their record. 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.520 I believe they were twenty one and forty three in 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.360 the in the few years before they got there, and 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.000 and they're almost exactly flipped in the four years after 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:43.760 three playoff spots, and they're drafting well. Everyone likes working there, 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.040 like it was believed to be a good relationship, and 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:50.000 then you get this statement out of nowhere from the 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:54.240 chairman of the chiefs, Clark Hunt at Dorsey's gone. Yeah, 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.280 these two they've never finished lower than second place together. 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:00.080 And as soon as I saw this news, it is 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.560 almost like, so Andy Reid is signing this extension and 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.280 staying and Dorsey's out, Like I mean, is that read 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.680 being like you can keep me, but he's got to go, 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.160 Like I wonder if everything under wrap. It was almost 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:17.000 like the organization perhaps knowing that Dorsey leaving would lead 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.640 to a mess of questions about the entire regime, and 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.440 maybe we extended read just so you know it's not 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.840 there's nothing crazy crazy happening, but we're moving on from 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.840 the GM well, the the state. I think we'll learn 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:33.040 more when you know our NFL network insidery and rapport 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.440 chimes in. I think there will be more of a backstory. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.160 So this is in motion, but I do think you 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:38.960 can learn from this on the golf course right now. 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.800 You can learn from the statement that the Hunt family released. 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.400 Clark specifically, he said, I notified John we would not 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.280 be extending his contract beyond the two thousand seventeen season. 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.960 After consideration, we felt like it was in his best 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.160 interests and the best interests of the team to part 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:58.120 ways now. So something Usually coach and GM gets their 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.200 contracts at the same time. They want to be a line. 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:08.280 Whenever this contract negotiation started with Dorsey, you would think 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.160 the play, the expectation was he was gonna be there 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.640 because they have let Dorsey make all the moves this offseason. 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:20.080 They let him shuffle much of his personnel staff. He 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.880 let go of some people, so they're Chris Ballard's goal 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.160 and that was their number two guys, right, Chris Ballard 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.280 left because he had a better job. They wouldn't know, 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.680 so you would think this is all taking it by surprise. 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.560 But the fact that they mentioned his contract and you know, 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:38.760 two be square. We talked with someone downstairs off the record, 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.040 but I didn't have three sources on it, so I 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.720 was gonna stay quiet. Has a different policy I would 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:45.520 have said. I would have said the same thing, that 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.840 it seems like the contract and whether that's money or 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:54.720 power or whatever it is that that began a disagreement, 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:59.040 and who knows. Maybe Dorsey didn't play it well and 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.200 the Hunt only said all right, see you who knows 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.560 these things can happen in contracts, people emotions? You know? 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.480 How well? Is this this your contracts coming up? Colleen? 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.119 Want to talk about that? That's that's right, that's on 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:17.720 the that's on the inflation pod. Well done. Um, yeah, 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.000 that roster has been constructed extremely well. And now without 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.440 your number one guy, your number two guys, they better 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:27.800 trust their number three guys. The thing is they shuffled out. 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:29.879 There are a lot of the guys that would be 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.520 the three four ft like key guys in that personnel staff. 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.280 So it's they're starting over at a very strange time. 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.520 I can't remember Jeam ever being fired at this time 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.560 of year. It's it's a weird move for It's a 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.280 weird move for a team that's been doing so well. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.439 And we're going to find out more once all of 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.399 our insiders get off the golf course. There's multiple these 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.119 guys are like Trump level. That doesn't include you though, 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.680 No no, no, no, no no, listen, we're here. Let me 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:56.840 tell you some about where where I grew up. Where 0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:00.600 I grew up, I mean in my cold town. Um, 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:04.960 there's no room for for golf courses, barely any trees, 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.920 how did you relax. I'll tell you how we relaxed 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.159 when we got when we got out of that shoot 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:14.120 and we we could still breathe. That's the most relaxing 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.239 breath you want to take. Oh my god, you are 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:21.760 in this, in this fantasy land you have. You are 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.200 now working the coal mine at a kid. I got 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:29.520 out and anybody that you just cracked open a beer? Yeah, 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.840 anybody that what's the name of the town again, the 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.760 Pearl River, New York, The Town of Friendly People, anybody, 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:37.920 That's how we got the name, the Town of Friendly People. 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.240 Anybody that got out. You were as friendly as can 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:44.720 be because you were alive. You're just happy drinking in 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:48.720 the air. Alright, I'm glad you're here. Dan, I'm glad 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.320 to be here. And I can't wait to see it tonight, Colleen. Right, 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.600 you know, maybe i'll see him, Maybe I won't. Um. 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.639 Let's move on to talk a little. Let's get to 0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:02.760 the throne of ease. Oh boy. Um. David Harris was 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:07.639 dumped by the Jets uh earlier this month. He was 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.400 a Jets life ver since two thousand, seventeen, ten years, 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:14.640 started every game. UH. Was really the lifeblood of that defense. Uh. 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:16.920 In the middle, uh, their play caller and all that, 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:21.000 and now he lands with of course the New England Patriots, 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.360 who Uh, if you through the years, if you followed 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.800 the Jets Patriots quote unquote rivalry, you knew that Belichick 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:31.520 had a very high um level of respect for Harris 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.600 and the way you played the game. And now there's talk, 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.600 uh that he Colleen is going to be a starter 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:43.040 potentially in New England, and it feels like David Harris 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:44.880 might end up getting a ring out of all this, 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:49.200 of w and how about that. I know this is 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:52.560 a nightmare for you, but that's how these things happened, 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.360 especially with the Patriots. And look at what they've done 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:57.840 this offseason, just the guys that they've picked up from 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:01.560 within the division. David Harris, Uh, just happened. And then 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.560 you have Mike Gillesley and stuff on Gilmore from the Bills. 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:08.639 They're just poaching everybody from the division and they're gonna 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.920 they're gonna win another ring. I'm sorry, Well, a couple 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:13.760 of things. First of all, I didn't really poach David 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.800 Harrison the Jets. The Jets moved on from David Harris, 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.840 but and I got it a ton of tweets immediately 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:22.359 upon this news breaking, including what was the one Greg 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.080 that it was both of us. I wish I wish 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:26.840 you could. I wish I could pay to see the 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.840 text exchange between Dan and Greg right now after this, 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:32.080 Like everybody thought I was gonna wake up see Twitter 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.600 and just be like ripping out my hair and anger. No, 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:37.720 David Harris, and maybe this this is kind of part 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:41.199 of why he was underappreciated as a Jet. He just 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.720 went about his work. He wasn't, you know, a change 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:45.639 the game type player. He would just start a really 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:50.520 steady guy, consistent, consistent, smart, smart, you know, a guy 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:53.720 that that never missed the practice and and lead the 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:55.240 right way. And that's part of the reason I thought 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.399 they should have held on to him, just because you 0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:58.879 could do it by the way. You could tear it 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:02.040 down like the Jets are doing a full rebuild. And 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:03.560 I get it, and I get it what he wants 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:05.560 to save money, But you should keep some of these 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:08.080 guys in the building to like teach the young guys 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.160 how to play the game and show them a path. 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:13.200 Eric Decker and David Harris were two guys that were 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:15.840 exactly the type of veterans that you look for, but 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.240 sometimes the owner wants to save money because this is 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:22.240 a plaything. And I think I am not upset that 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.480 David Harrison of the Patriots. I'm really not. The Rivas 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.639 once stung a little bit, absolutely because he was oh 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:32.360 he was the most famous Jet of my lifetime. But uh, Harrison, 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:34.639 I'm happy for him. I might try to sign with 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:38.919 the Jets and the Jaguars or something. I'm that's not 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.879 I I didn't there was no Texas change, and I 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:46.000 think Harris, if if all goes well, will be that 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:49.919 veteran guy that pick up kind of searching for the 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.520 ring like a junior, say hour or stuff. But let's 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:54.639