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Speaker 1: Huka Poose. Welcome back to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus, and I
Speaker 1: am joined by a room filled with some heroes. To
Speaker 1: my left, Colleen Wolf, to my right, Greg Rosenthal. What's up, people, Yeah,
Speaker 1: get ready for this show. I've got a lot of coffee.
Speaker 1: Colleen does have a uh interesting energy here here today.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of buzz to her. She's doing
Speaker 1: the live updates for NFL Network today, which means you've
Speaker 1: been up for a long time. I've been up since five.
Speaker 1: You're just on You're just on live television. You literally
Speaker 1: ripped the handle off our door while you were on
Speaker 1: their way to the bathroom. You pack a lot of
Speaker 1: strength into that, the small frame of yours. Colleen, You've
Speaker 1: you've left us trapped in here. Now I know at
Speaker 1: least we have water that's good and all, and Sally,
Speaker 1: we must feast on you if it comes to it. Alive,
Speaker 1: Oh dear. This is the Thursday edition in Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. Uh and we are excited to have Connie
Speaker 1: with us, and we have as as I mentioned on Twitter,
Speaker 1: if you follow on Twitter, and damn it, you should
Speaker 1: a little later today. One of the voices, the behind
Speaker 1: the scenes voices of the Around the NFL podcast, Frags,
Speaker 1: is gonna join us, and also we'll have another we'll
Speaker 1: have another UH satellite hero joining in via the telephone
Speaker 1: at the end of the show. A lot to get
Speaker 1: to it. They're excited about today's show. And also tonight
Speaker 1: UH is the Commissioner's Awards party, the tenth annual even
Speaker 1: another company function, another company function with an open bar,
Speaker 1: which is good, best part of this time of year. Uh, Colleen,
Speaker 1: you and I are going, and I promise videos. What
Speaker 1: was Greg's zach reactions? Said? Greg? Do you want to come? Ye?
Speaker 1: Who cares? I didn't say that. Why should I go? Though?
Speaker 1: Who will be there? It's like I didn't see. First
Speaker 1: of all, I got to bring Elise to her last
Speaker 1: swim class. So if you're already back on the other
Speaker 1: side of town, are you going to drive back just
Speaker 1: for the second half of the thing and you live okay,
Speaker 1: Santa Monica, but not that far. I think what I
Speaker 1: said was there's gonna be a lot of people there, right,
Speaker 1: that's the point. Yeah, that's scared. Does that mean just
Speaker 1: like a large I don't like large groupings of people
Speaker 1: are expected. That's why there's a barcie. I have a
Speaker 1: couple of drinks. Let loose, will have some fun together,
Speaker 1: all right. Yeah, I don't believe I don't come in.
Speaker 1: This is like the time where the NFL Network Temph
Speaker 1: anniversary party where we went and Greg didn't go, and
Speaker 1: it was a chance to bond with Gregg. He was
Speaker 1: kind of newer at the company and he just no
Speaker 1: showed that that event, and we're like, what's going on
Speaker 1: with this guy? And here we are five halfs later
Speaker 1: and the same story. We need you, Greg, We want
Speaker 1: you on that wall. We need you on that wall.
Speaker 1: Come please come Greg? All right, comfortable? Okay. So that's
Speaker 1: that's today's show. Um, So before we get into anything else,
Speaker 1: So there is some actual news, legitimate news. Kind of
Speaker 1: a good slash bad day to be the news lady today.
Speaker 1: I know, this is my first day doing news updates. Wow.
Speaker 1: Claibon sits there all weak, you know, picking his nose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: reading a Steven Seagal book that I got him. And
Speaker 1: then here comes Connie Fox and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the world blows up. Sally, let's hit some news. Um, Sully,
Speaker 1: are you going to the party? Oh? Why not? You're
Speaker 1: the life of the party. Your life of the party guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not feeling it. It's my Friday night. Okay, what does
Speaker 1: Sully do on his Friday night? I have no plans
Speaker 1: right now, but I'm not going to the party. So
Speaker 1: you're skipping out on the party. It's your Friday night.
Speaker 1: There's free open bar and you have no plans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with Greg, not not. I see you guys all day,
Speaker 1: every day. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just hey, calm down, Sully.
Speaker 1: I'll see you guys at Hananas afterwards. All right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's move on and start with the biggest news of
Speaker 1: the day. Uh. The contract that we have neatly avoided
Speaker 1: throughout this spring is now a done deal between Derek
Speaker 1: Carr and the Raiders. On Thursday, the two sides agreed
Speaker 1: to a five year, one and twenty five million dollar
Speaker 1: extension forty million fully guaranteed, seventy million and total guarantees.
Speaker 1: Someone can explain that to me. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I know it's a whole mess of money for Derek
Speaker 1: Carr and his great great great great great grandchildren uh,
Speaker 1: Paul and a half million signing bonus to all. According
Speaker 1: to rap sheet, UH, the deal puts Car over Colts
Speaker 1: quarterback Andrew Lucky is now the highest paid player in
Speaker 1: the league in terms of average money per year. And
Speaker 1: this is all happening because Derek Carr played like an
Speaker 1: m v P last year UH in his And you
Speaker 1: know that's not even trying to get on Derek Car's
Speaker 1: good side. That's strictly based on his production where he
Speaker 1: led the Raiders to the precipice of the a f
Speaker 1: C West title um before breaking his leg on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1: But he's twenty six. Uh really is an excellent young quarterback.
Speaker 1: And Greg, what does this tell you about the landscape
Speaker 1: of the NFL that Derek Carr got this deal at
Speaker 1: this time, Well, they had no choice. This is such
Speaker 1: an awkward season for the Oakland Raiders, arguably the most
Speaker 1: awkward season in the history of the NFL that any
Speaker 1: team's tried to have. And they've been building up to
Speaker 1: it for about fifteen years to have a good team
Speaker 1: like this. They haven't had a homegrown quarterback to call
Speaker 1: their own since Kenny Stabler, who left town twelve years
Speaker 1: before Derek Carr was born and and right when this
Speaker 1: is happening, they announced their leaving for Las Vegas to
Speaker 1: so to have your best player in a contract situation
Speaker 1: hanging over the team like that wasn't an option. And
Speaker 1: I think this was an easy contract to do because
Speaker 1: I think general managers like Reggie mackenzie and owners, I
Speaker 1: think they all understand that quarterbacks are underpaid, that this
Speaker 1: is not that much money for Derek Carr, that he's
Speaker 1: worth more than this. Yeah, they I mean they had
Speaker 1: to do it. It was just a matter of when
Speaker 1: it was going to get done, so it was inevitable.
Speaker 1: And now it sets the market for guys like Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford and Kirk Cousins who I mean film Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: if he if he hits the free agent market, I mean,
Speaker 1: he could be making thirty million dollars and like playing
Speaker 1: with the forty niners. Yeah, it opens up to a
Speaker 1: whole array of questions about who's worth this type of money.
Speaker 1: And Greg you Um wrote a column like a good
Speaker 1: NFL dot com worker, b uh, talking about why all
Speaker 1: these people like the first take type shows and everybody
Speaker 1: that's gonna waste entire segments a blocks b blocks talking
Speaker 1: about is this guy worth the money? Your your opinion is,
Speaker 1: of course he is, just like almost every guy that
Speaker 1: can throw the ball in this league should be paid
Speaker 1: like this. Well, think about what would Derek Carr in
Speaker 1: another world where teams actually allowed quarterbacks to hit free agency?
Speaker 1: What would he get from the Browns or the Jets
Speaker 1: or the Texas whatever team it's gonna be No, Seriously, like,
Speaker 1: how much money do you think he would get if
Speaker 1: he was on the open market. I think they're If
Speaker 1: the Jets had a chance to get Derek Carr next
Speaker 1: year and they don't even have to give up anything
Speaker 1: in a trade, you just signed up, open up your pocketbook,
Speaker 1: I think you could he would command probably something in
Speaker 1: the range of thirty five million a year maybe. But
Speaker 1: it's finally starting to make sense because the years we
Speaker 1: talked on this podcast for years how quarterbacks are getting
Speaker 1: paid less than top sluggers in baseball or NBA stars.
Speaker 1: Now that money is starting to get where it should be,
Speaker 1: right and think about them even compared to other players.
Speaker 1: So Olivia Vernon's getting seventeen a year, that's only thirty
Speaker 1: percent less than Derek Carr. Nick Perry, who I like
Speaker 1: a lot as a pass Rushers has signed basically the
Speaker 1: same amount of years this car for about half as
Speaker 1: much money. How many Nick Perry's would it take in
Speaker 1: a trade for you to give up Derek Carr? Like eight?
Speaker 1: Like not? Like you know, and he's making half answers, right,
Speaker 1: there's no answer. There's you know, complications with cloning and
Speaker 1: morality and all those sorts of things. And this is
Speaker 1: all not even mentioning the fact that there's a salary cap. Now,
Speaker 1: what if there wasn't a salary cap? What if the NFL,
Speaker 1: America's greatest game wasn't run essentially like you know, communism, socialism,
Speaker 1: so these colors don't run. I don't like it talking
Speaker 1: about football like that. It's one of the reasons why
Speaker 1: the NFL is good. They share their profits, they cap
Speaker 1: worker you know, wages. The franchise tag limits the movement.
Speaker 1: Like if these guys actually could get like the rest
Speaker 1: of the world, you know, their capitalists like what they earned.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it'd be worth fifties seventy
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. I don't know. These are billion
Speaker 1: dollar companies. I would be interested to see how the
Speaker 1: deal structured too, because I'm sure it's going to be
Speaker 1: backloaded just so they can get deals done with their
Speaker 1: guys like Gabe Jackson on the offensive line he has
Speaker 1: a deal coming up, and Khalil Mack two. But also
Speaker 1: not to mention that Nevada has no sales tax sales
Speaker 1: and I mean they usually are, but I feel like
Speaker 1: it might be even more so because that's going to
Speaker 1: save him so much money. California is like thirteen point
Speaker 1: three state tax. They they did, uh delay a lot
Speaker 1: of the guarantees until later in the contracts so that
Speaker 1: you could get and unlike a lot of NFL countrics,
Speaker 1: when you sign these young quarterback franchise quarterback, I mean
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's actually gonna get through most of it.
Speaker 1: He'll end up signing a new deal for even more
Speaker 1: with a year or two left. And what they do, um,
Speaker 1: it's this is the both tells you the explosion of
Speaker 1: of the league and the money involved, but also you
Speaker 1: know the story of inflation, which Colleen will get to
Speaker 1: when she anchors the Inflation Podcast later this summer. But
Speaker 1: once upon a time, back in ninety six, the New
Speaker 1: York Jets signed Neil O'donnald to a top of the
Speaker 1: market five year, twenty five million dollar deal. Now we're
Speaker 1: at five for one twenty five million. And I will
Speaker 1: also add that the five for twenty five curse does
Speaker 1: it carry to five for one? Is it? Is it
Speaker 1: even worse? What will be fall are great leader, Derek Carr,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope nothing fair. New listeners, you
Speaker 1: have a theory that five for twenty five million dollars
Speaker 1: is a cursed contract. I want you to go through
Speaker 1: every sport in the last twenty years, twenty five years,
Speaker 1: starting when Danny Tardi Bill signed a five year, twenty
Speaker 1: five million dollar deal with the Yankees in nineteen two.
Speaker 1: O'donnald with the Jets. Who was that center for the
Speaker 1: Vikings Sullivan? Uh five years? What a bad deal? That was?
Speaker 1: Five for twenty five will get you every time, but
Speaker 1: five maybe it's different. I think you're fine. Yeah, congrats
Speaker 1: to you know, the car the Car family. It's been
Speaker 1: a big year for him. I mean he gets on
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast and then this right there
Speaker 1: at the two great things. I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: guy who started his career uh, oh intent as a
Speaker 1: in terms of the Raiders were oh intent there were
Speaker 1: some doubts in this room. I was wrong. Uh in
Speaker 1: my evaluation, I think of you if you think about car,
Speaker 1: I think he's a very he combines being he's very careful,
Speaker 1: like he's he's composed and careful, doesn't take too many mistakes.
Speaker 1: But then he combines that with he's like athletic enough
Speaker 1: that when stuff gets crazy, he can improvise and just
Speaker 1: kind of make it happen because he's that. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's a nice combination. Um, and I do like it's
Speaker 1: one of the one of the top jock Like fellow jocks.
Speaker 1: Bit exchanges on social media after a big deal, and
Speaker 1: we actually got to see it between the car brothers.
Speaker 1: Our friend David reached out to our friend Derek and said, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: lunch is on you next time. Uh can you imagine
Speaker 1: like your little brother gets million dollar contract. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I would say I feel bad for David Carr, but
Speaker 1: he's doing well and he's doing very well at NFL
Speaker 1: Network and that that guy and I reached out to
Speaker 1: Sydney about this privately. Last Friday, David got a haircut
Speaker 1: and now he's better looking, which is not That is
Speaker 1: not cool. David Carr was already a fantastic looking guy,
Speaker 1: and then he gets a haircut. It's a little less,
Speaker 1: a little less juice going on up top of the
Speaker 1: part changed a little bit, and now we're an uncharted territory.
Speaker 1: Hair expert Dan Hands is chiming in. I mean, because
Speaker 1: now he's nailed the hair and now the roof is off.
Speaker 1: The first time that John saw him, he was like,
Speaker 1: he came running over to me and was like, that's
Speaker 1: the most handsome man I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: Here you're talking about let's move on. We should move on.
Speaker 1: I can't just keep talking about another man that I
Speaker 1: work with like this. I mean, it's fine, you should
Speaker 1: talk to him tonight at the You've done it every
Speaker 1: this week. You also made Patrick Cleavan visibly uncomfortable with
Speaker 1: your lot. You know he can do all that good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I only have so much mercy upon nine and a
Speaker 1: half's in general when we of my own gender Mark Chris,
Speaker 1: and I've never heard any of these problems from you. Alright,
Speaker 1: Moving on, big news in Kansas City, a huge shake
Speaker 1: up there. Uh. First we heard that Andy Reid got
Speaker 1: an extension, which you know was notable obviously, but not
Speaker 1: surprising or stunning. But then we got the word that
Speaker 1: John Dorsey, the general manager of the team, will part
Speaker 1: ways of the team effective immediately, which kind of through
Speaker 1: the football coat is SENTI for a loop, including one
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. Greg, this on a lot of levels. This
Speaker 1: you know, there's got to be something cooking behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: because this doesn't make sense. The Chiefs are the prime
Speaker 1: model of having a front office getting it right, building
Speaker 1: a team the right way, and now you get rid
Speaker 1: of the guy that ostensibly is at the top of
Speaker 1: the pyramid. It is stunning because I think I've said
Speaker 1: on this podcast Dorsey and read I think I've had
Speaker 1: the textbook example of coming into an organization that was
Speaker 1: in bad shape in a lot of ways and immediately
Speaker 1: flipping it, having a vision of these are the types
Speaker 1: of players we're gonna go for, this is how we're
Speaker 1: gonna coach sinking up and they immediately flipped their record.
Speaker 1: I believe they were twenty one and forty three in
Speaker 1: the in the few years before they got there, and
Speaker 1: and they're almost exactly flipped in the four years after
Speaker 1: three playoff spots, and they're drafting well. Everyone likes working there,
Speaker 1: like it was believed to be a good relationship, and
Speaker 1: then you get this statement out of nowhere from the
Speaker 1: chairman of the chiefs, Clark Hunt at Dorsey's gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: these two they've never finished lower than second place together.
Speaker 1: And as soon as I saw this news, it is
Speaker 1: almost like, so Andy Reid is signing this extension and
Speaker 1: staying and Dorsey's out, Like I mean, is that read
Speaker 1: being like you can keep me, but he's got to go,
Speaker 1: Like I wonder if everything under wrap. It was almost
Speaker 1: like the organization perhaps knowing that Dorsey leaving would lead
Speaker 1: to a mess of questions about the entire regime, and
Speaker 1: maybe we extended read just so you know it's not
Speaker 1: there's nothing crazy crazy happening, but we're moving on from
Speaker 1: the GM well, the the state. I think we'll learn
Speaker 1: more when you know our NFL network insidery and rapport
Speaker 1: chimes in. I think there will be more of a backstory.
Speaker 1: So this is in motion, but I do think you
Speaker 1: can learn from this on the golf course right now.
Speaker 1: You can learn from the statement that the Hunt family released.
Speaker 1: Clark specifically, he said, I notified John we would not
Speaker 1: be extending his contract beyond the two thousand seventeen season.
Speaker 1: After consideration, we felt like it was in his best
Speaker 1: interests and the best interests of the team to part
Speaker 1: ways now. So something Usually coach and GM gets their
Speaker 1: contracts at the same time. They want to be a line.
Speaker 1: Whenever this contract negotiation started with Dorsey, you would think
Speaker 1: the play, the expectation was he was gonna be there
Speaker 1: because they have let Dorsey make all the moves this offseason.
Speaker 1: They let him shuffle much of his personnel staff. He
Speaker 1: let go of some people, so they're Chris Ballard's goal
Speaker 1: and that was their number two guys, right, Chris Ballard
Speaker 1: left because he had a better job. They wouldn't know,
Speaker 1: so you would think this is all taking it by surprise.
Speaker 1: But the fact that they mentioned his contract and you know,
Speaker 1: two be square. We talked with someone downstairs off the record,
Speaker 1: but I didn't have three sources on it, so I
Speaker 1: was gonna stay quiet. Has a different policy I would
Speaker 1: have said. I would have said the same thing, that
Speaker 1: it seems like the contract and whether that's money or
Speaker 1: power or whatever it is that that began a disagreement,
Speaker 1: and who knows. Maybe Dorsey didn't play it well and
Speaker 1: the Hunt only said all right, see you who knows
Speaker 1: these things can happen in contracts, people emotions? You know?
Speaker 1: How well? Is this this your contracts coming up? Colleen?
Speaker 1: Want to talk about that? That's that's right, that's on
Speaker 1: the that's on the inflation pod. Well done. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: that roster has been constructed extremely well. And now without
Speaker 1: your number one guy, your number two guys, they better
Speaker 1: trust their number three guys. The thing is they shuffled out.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of the guys that would be
Speaker 1: the three four ft like key guys in that personnel staff.
Speaker 1: So it's they're starting over at a very strange time.
Speaker 1: I can't remember Jeam ever being fired at this time
Speaker 1: of year. It's it's a weird move for It's a
Speaker 1: weird move for a team that's been doing so well.
Speaker 1: And we're going to find out more once all of
Speaker 1: our insiders get off the golf course. There's multiple these
Speaker 1: guys are like Trump level. That doesn't include you though,
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, listen, we're here. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you some about where where I grew up. Where
Speaker 1: I grew up, I mean in my cold town. Um,
Speaker 1: there's no room for for golf courses, barely any trees,
Speaker 1: how did you relax. I'll tell you how we relaxed
Speaker 1: when we got when we got out of that shoot
Speaker 1: and we we could still breathe. That's the most relaxing
Speaker 1: breath you want to take. Oh my god, you are
Speaker 1: in this, in this fantasy land you have. You are
Speaker 1: now working the coal mine at a kid. I got
Speaker 1: out and anybody that you just cracked open a beer? Yeah,
Speaker 1: anybody that what's the name of the town again, the
Speaker 1: Pearl River, New York, The Town of Friendly People, anybody,
Speaker 1: That's how we got the name, the Town of Friendly People.
Speaker 1: Anybody that got out. You were as friendly as can
Speaker 1: be because you were alive. You're just happy drinking in
Speaker 1: the air. Alright, I'm glad you're here. Dan, I'm glad
Speaker 1: to be here. And I can't wait to see it tonight, Colleen. Right,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe i'll see him, Maybe I won't. Um.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to talk a little. Let's get to
Speaker 1: the throne of ease. Oh boy. Um. David Harris was
Speaker 1: dumped by the Jets uh earlier this month. He was
Speaker 1: a Jets life ver since two thousand, seventeen, ten years,
Speaker 1: started every game. UH. Was really the lifeblood of that defense. Uh.
Speaker 1: In the middle, uh, their play caller and all that,
Speaker 1: and now he lands with of course the New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: who Uh, if you through the years, if you followed
Speaker 1: the Jets Patriots quote unquote rivalry, you knew that Belichick
Speaker 1: had a very high um level of respect for Harris
Speaker 1: and the way you played the game. And now there's talk,
Speaker 1: uh that he Colleen is going to be a starter
Speaker 1: potentially in New England, and it feels like David Harris
Speaker 1: might end up getting a ring out of all this,
Speaker 1: of w and how about that. I know this is
Speaker 1: a nightmare for you, but that's how these things happened,
Speaker 1: especially with the Patriots. And look at what they've done
Speaker 1: this offseason, just the guys that they've picked up from
Speaker 1: within the division. David Harris, Uh, just happened. And then
Speaker 1: you have Mike Gillesley and stuff on Gilmore from the Bills.
Speaker 1: They're just poaching everybody from the division and they're gonna
Speaker 1: they're gonna win another ring. I'm sorry, Well, a couple
Speaker 1: of things. First of all, I didn't really poach David
Speaker 1: Harrison the Jets. The Jets moved on from David Harris,
Speaker 1: but and I got it a ton of tweets immediately
Speaker 1: upon this news breaking, including what was the one Greg
Speaker 1: that it was both of us. I wish I wish
Speaker 1: you could. I wish I could pay to see the
Speaker 1: text exchange between Dan and Greg right now after this,
Speaker 1: Like everybody thought I was gonna wake up see Twitter
Speaker 1: and just be like ripping out my hair and anger. No,
Speaker 1: David Harris, and maybe this this is kind of part
Speaker 1: of why he was underappreciated as a Jet. He just
Speaker 1: went about his work. He wasn't, you know, a change
Speaker 1: the game type player. He would just start a really
Speaker 1: steady guy, consistent, consistent, smart, smart, you know, a guy
Speaker 1: that that never missed the practice and and lead the
Speaker 1: right way. And that's part of the reason I thought
Speaker 1: they should have held on to him, just because you
Speaker 1: could do it by the way. You could tear it
Speaker 1: down like the Jets are doing a full rebuild. And
Speaker 1: I get it, and I get it what he wants
Speaker 1: to save money, But you should keep some of these
Speaker 1: guys in the building to like teach the young guys
Speaker 1: how to play the game and show them a path.
Speaker 1: Eric Decker and David Harris were two guys that were
Speaker 1: exactly the type of veterans that you look for, but
Speaker 1: sometimes the owner wants to save money because this is
Speaker 1: a plaything. And I think I am not upset that
Speaker 1: David Harrison of the Patriots. I'm really not. The Rivas
Speaker 1: once stung a little bit, absolutely because he was oh
Speaker 1: he was the most famous Jet of my lifetime. But uh, Harrison,
Speaker 1: I'm happy for him. I might try to sign with
Speaker 1: the Jets and the Jaguars or something. I'm that's not
Speaker 1: I I didn't there was no Texas change, and I
Speaker 1: think Harris, if if all goes well, will be that
Speaker 1: veteran guy that pick up kind of searching for the
Speaker 1: ring like a junior, say hour or stuff. But let's
Speaker 1: not get carried away. They the money tells part of
Speaker 1: the story. Two years, five million, one point to five guaranteed,
Speaker 1: So that tells me he's on the team this year,
Speaker 1: he's getting paid like, uh, not a real starter, but
Speaker 1: kind of like a rotational type of guy. He'll help
Speaker 1: out that The signing and immediately reminded me of was
Speaker 1: the Jets. The Patriots signing one of Bill Belichick's all
Speaker 1: time favorite Jets, which was Sean Ellis. And I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone really remembers Sean ellis Is one year with
Speaker 1: the Patriots, he was just you know there, he was
Speaker 1: a guy on the team and that was that. That's how,
Speaker 1: that's how, it's more likely how these things go. He
Speaker 1: got that contract solely because out of nowhere he played
Speaker 1: like a defensive end version of LT and that playoff
Speaker 1: game the Jets speed the Patriots at Foxbor all those
Speaker 1: years ago. Now. But yeah, so it could be Elise.
Speaker 1: He could be another Jets example. Victor Greene, another top
Speaker 1: fifty all time Jet on their according to their list,
Speaker 1: went to the Pats in the early two thousand's. I
Speaker 1: think he got a ring with the Pats. There was
Speaker 1: a memorable his first game back in the meadow Lands.
Speaker 1: He had to pick six of any test of already.
Speaker 1: Uh so, good luck to David Harrison. Everyone thinks that
Speaker 1: I'm like freaking out at all times. I'm trust thing
Speaker 1: the process right now, hashtag trust the process, and uh,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking bigger things. A certain guy playing in USC
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to talk about him, but I'm thinking
Speaker 1: big picture and that starts with a tune four. All Right,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough year, That's what's happening in
Speaker 1: the news. Good good news chatter. Yeah, it's been a
Speaker 1: great day. I'm I'm I'm looking at your rundown right
Speaker 1: now and there's an amazing picture of frags on there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like to put in the rundown I
Speaker 1: send out to the team. Um, I like to add
Speaker 1: a picture. Sometimes it's a picture of Colleen. If I'll
Speaker 1: do a Google which if if the league ever audited
Speaker 1: my Google searches, they would think it was me being creepy.
Speaker 1: But it's really just I'd like to get an image
Speaker 1: in there. Just got fun research. They could find many
Speaker 1: I mean, they could find evidence of you being creepy.
Speaker 1: This just wouldn't happen to be yourself. And that one
Speaker 1: put it that way, and I'll leave it there. Elevate
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Speaker 1: so let's move on now. So the Raiders have their quarterback,
Speaker 1: and we never stressed about it in this room. It
Speaker 1: was a major story until the deal happened. But you
Speaker 1: know it was gonna happen. But here's here's the good
Speaker 1: thing is that they got the deal done. This will
Speaker 1: not hang over them and it won't be a distraction
Speaker 1: distraction to me. It doesn't make the Raiders a bigger
Speaker 1: threat in two thousand seventeen. That's a nice little thing, though.
Speaker 1: You take care of your quarterback and you move forward.
Speaker 1: So why don't we check in and we we'll call
Speaker 1: this the a f C Higher Archy Update. Great title
Speaker 1: sounds official higher archy and um that sensetone. What's that
Speaker 1: We're gonna workshop this one? Yeah? You think it needs
Speaker 1: it needs work? Spice it up a little bit. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Why don't you get back to end the
Speaker 1: show an updated title that maybe we can use in
Speaker 1: the episode. Now you're on the spot, on the spot anyway,
Speaker 1: so let's break it down. We're trying to figure out. Basically,
Speaker 1: this is an exercise, Colleen, who could beat the damn Patriots.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's figure this out. And so that's where
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'll start it this way, and Greg is
Speaker 1: probably gonna disagree because Greg always pretends like the Patriots
Speaker 1: aren't as good as they are. But I'm putting the
Speaker 1: Patriots in their own class still. I'm putting them at
Speaker 1: number one, and they're just sitting there. They got the trophies,
Speaker 1: they got the best quarterback and the best coach, and
Speaker 1: they had, as everyone loves to tell you, had an
Speaker 1: amazing offseason. On top of now, they got David Harris,
Speaker 1: a warrior in the middle of their defense. Patriots only
Speaker 1: got better, so to me, their own class in this hierarchy. Greg,
Speaker 1: agree or disagree, I don't agree. Come on, man, living
Speaker 1: in a fantasy world, man, wake up. It's football football,
Speaker 1: single elimination, one game this or that, and and the
Speaker 1: reason I don't totally agree. Okay, they're the favorites, Yes,
Speaker 1: they would be the team you would put first, absolutely,
Speaker 1: But the Pittsburgh Steelers this season I think are the
Speaker 1: best Pittsburgh Steelers team. Mike Tomlins ever had that includes
Speaker 1: you know, some that have been favored to make super Bowls,
Speaker 1: one that won a Super Bowl as a lower seed.
Speaker 1: This Steelers team has a defense little making the leap
Speaker 1: preview that might be on making the leap, coming up,
Speaker 1: making making the leaves back. I thought it was gonna
Speaker 1: it was like one of those sitcoms that the ratings
Speaker 1: keep dwindling and they somehow it keeps coming back, but
Speaker 1: eventually there's just a shrug and they just say it's over. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, like you know, the last thing they
Speaker 1: do with those are it changes formats and it's like
Speaker 1: a half season. That's kind of what this is. Like.
Speaker 1: It's only gonna be like five making the leaps and
Speaker 1: and they're a little different, but one of them is
Speaker 1: going to be the Steelers defense down to just five
Speaker 1: from forty. Well forty was the first. Because that's a
Speaker 1: lot and you're the only one writing it. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on you. Greg. If you only go five,
Speaker 1: you almost have to go at least four out of
Speaker 1: five to be respected in this the football CONCENTI people
Speaker 1: don't remember people they're still listening to this podcast. After
Speaker 1: we ranked Corridoril Patterson number one, here's a good guy.
Speaker 1: The Steelers, Okay, the defense, this is what they've been
Speaker 1: waiting for for a while. And then the offense among
Speaker 1: the best offensive lines in the league. And you have Roethlisberger, Brown,
Speaker 1: and Bell altogether all still at the height of their powers.
Speaker 1: At the same time. I think you put this team
Speaker 1: in almost any other season and they're better than the
Speaker 1: consensus Super Bowl favorites going into a season. So that's
Speaker 1: why I don't see why the Patriots and the Steelers
Speaker 1: are on two totally crazy different planes. Colleen, am I
Speaker 1: crazy for countering with Ben Roethlisberger's never beating the Patriots
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I know that doesn't matter. It's sort
Speaker 1: of but I feel like there's always something that's like,
Speaker 1: you know, they have like a key injury, he's injured.
Speaker 1: There's always something with the Steelers to make the excuse
Speaker 1: why they didn't beat the Patriots this year. Last year
Speaker 1: was Leavan Bell. They they haven't really met up against
Speaker 1: Patriots too often in the in the Roethlisberger and things
Speaker 1: are always trends until they change, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And they're good enough, I I think to beat anyone.
Speaker 1: I love the Steelers you know who else. I like, wait,
Speaker 1: but before we go on, so you're hold that thought, Connie,
Speaker 1: You're you're gonna honestly say, if we're making a hierarchy, yeah,
Speaker 1: you you want to go one A, one B. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna put the Pats in their own team. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give Pats the respect of number one. And they're
Speaker 1: in the same tier as the Steelers, and those are
Speaker 1: the two. Just those two well, because here's how I
Speaker 1: would separate those two from the rest of the league.
Speaker 1: I would be stunned if those teams are not in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. No one else would stun me if they
Speaker 1: aren't in the playoffs. I mean the Steelers, is that
Speaker 1: you're the team you're gonna talk about. The Raiders are great,
Speaker 1: but I can I think you can find ways to
Speaker 1: see how that division is and things could go a
Speaker 1: little wrong for them, like they went right for them
Speaker 1: last year, And yeah, I could. To me the Steelers
Speaker 1: if they don't make the playoffs this year, like that's
Speaker 1: always Mike Tomlin in trouble. That's a big that's a
Speaker 1: huge disappointment. They're too good. Well, it's very top heavy colleague,
Speaker 1: because you got all right, if we're gonna. I'll go
Speaker 1: along with you, begrudgingly if you want to put the
Speaker 1: Steelers in that tier with the Patriots. Actually I won't.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Patriots in their own Patriots in their own tier,
Speaker 1: and then the next year should be Steelers too, And
Speaker 1: I feel like it has to be Raiders free. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's exactly what I would do too. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's anybody else that belongs in that tier.
Speaker 1: I think it's very top heavy still this conference. I
Speaker 1: think so, because after that it's like the Chiefs, like
Speaker 1: they I don't want to. I don't want to put
Speaker 1: them in though their team does look good in their
Speaker 1: offense is great. Nobody has a better record in the
Speaker 1: last eighteen months than the Chiefs, and they've This is
Speaker 1: the whole thing with the Chiefs are always disrespected, but
Speaker 1: um there's a reason for that is that they they're
Speaker 1: not I don't think quite at this level. And I'm
Speaker 1: not ready gonna. I don't want to put them in
Speaker 1: that tier. I want to. I would put them at
Speaker 1: the top of tier three. So if tier if tier
Speaker 1: one is you're you're the cream of the crop. Rise
Speaker 1: to the top. Never trust the pig, because the pig
Speaker 1: is a cop. Okay, everybody anybody remember, right, Selly do
Speaker 1: you know? I don't you don't know? Just a kid, Greg,
Speaker 1: I'm like, list is that Onyx. I'm like listening to
Speaker 1: the it's the same Arizonics. Uh. It is a house
Speaker 1: of pain. And I don't feel that way about the
Speaker 1: the armed forces or the our local police at all.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that is more an everlast thing. The
Speaker 1: old zuister is all about the in the in the
Speaker 1: federal Yeah, because that really wouldn't fit in with your
Speaker 1: whole as salt to the air that I got a
Speaker 1: lot of state troopers in my family. There you go.
Speaker 1: Do have a pb A card? I don't what I know.
Speaker 1: I had one for a little bit. It expired. They expire,
Speaker 1: they expire. But that's why you have to go to
Speaker 1: different I'm any you know. I did way back in
Speaker 1: the day. I'm not sure how I came upon it,
Speaker 1: but it's been a while. It's a very nice move
Speaker 1: to get a pb A card get you out a
Speaker 1: lot of things. It's the police benevolent yeaevolent association something
Speaker 1: like that. Here here's the thing, the rate why the
Speaker 1: Raiders don't belong with the Steelers. They had a bad
Speaker 1: defense last year and they made some moves to make
Speaker 1: you think that they're going to be better, but they
Speaker 1: haven't had a great defense. It's it's a it's an
Speaker 1: uneven team. I think the Steelers have the potential to
Speaker 1: be a very good defense, be a little more bounced
Speaker 1: along with their great off corners are a little they
Speaker 1: got on paper, it mostly looks pretty good. You got
Speaker 1: Cleo Mack, you got Bruce Irvan, You've made some upgrades
Speaker 1: in the secondary. We'll see if Conley pears. He is
Speaker 1: not going to be arrested at this and he could
Speaker 1: be good. Like on paper, they should be a little better.
Speaker 1: Ken Norton Jr. Has been under fire since he's been there.
Speaker 1: They have really not had a good defense the last
Speaker 1: few years, and they won a lot of close games.
Speaker 1: Derek Carr's the all time leader in his first three
Speaker 1: seasons of game winning comebacks, but it's because they're behind
Speaker 1: in a lot of those games. Well, it's a lot
Speaker 1: a lot of comebacks. That's where I will also I'll
Speaker 1: counter there though, that the biggest tragedy of the season
Speaker 1: was the Derek Carr leg injury because Christmas Eve they
Speaker 1: were that robbed the entire all football fans of a
Speaker 1: great a f C playoffs. And I think the Raiders
Speaker 1: could have went toe to toe and even beating the
Speaker 1: Patriots if that game was played in the black hole,
Speaker 1: which it could have been, or that at the very
Speaker 1: least they were going to get a home game and
Speaker 1: a bye if they just would have finished out uh
Speaker 1: the schedule the way everyone anticipated. So I think they
Speaker 1: were already almost at the Patriots level by the end
Speaker 1: of the last season. Um So I think that, and
Speaker 1: I'm granting that they're below the Pats, but I don't
Speaker 1: see a huge drop off. The Steelers are prone to funks,
Speaker 1: if you want to base this off. Last year Ben
Speaker 1: Roethlisberg went through stretches where he looked like a very
Speaker 1: average quarterback. He looked every bit a thirty six year
Speaker 1: old quarterback at times, and he has trouble staying healthy.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I think I think that they're
Speaker 1: in the same category. Now, let's go to the sleepers stage.
Speaker 1: Who's who's the number one sleeper? Greg get us going here,
Speaker 1: And if we're looking at the Pats, is number one
Speaker 1: who can knock off. Who could shock the Pats on
Speaker 1: Division weekend in Foxborough and it would be shocking to everyone,
Speaker 1: but not It would be stunning, but not shocking. I
Speaker 1: put shock ahead of stunt. Well, the three teams you're
Speaker 1: talking Sleepers that that's one of the teams I would
Speaker 1: throw in there. Bill Rivers going to Foxboro and getting
Speaker 1: his revenge. I think the talent on that team is
Speaker 1: good enough that they could get it done. And that's
Speaker 1: another reason why I don't put the Raiders here because
Speaker 1: I just look at the a f C West and
Speaker 1: I think this is the most fascinating division in football.
Speaker 1: It's the best division in football. So much could happen
Speaker 1: like the the the a f C goes through that division,
Speaker 1: and so you never know when the divisions that could.
Speaker 1: But I would say the teams that stick out to me,
Speaker 1: you say Sleepers, the Titans, who he spoke a lot
Speaker 1: about last show, the Chargers, and I'm as the off
Speaker 1: seasons weren't on. I'm feeling Bengals resurgence and I'm not
Speaker 1: giving up on them being in the mex I can
Speaker 1: I can see that happen. This is such a big
Speaker 1: year for Andy Dalton coming back at full health, having
Speaker 1: a much better supporting cast this year, he has a
Speaker 1: real chance to uh put a stamp on himself as
Speaker 1: being a guy never to be talked about with the
Speaker 1: Dalton line ever again, which is hard when it's actually
Speaker 1: your name. UH, And I'm very excited. I'm that is
Speaker 1: one of the things when once we get closer to
Speaker 1: season we talked about the things we're most looking forward to.
Speaker 1: UH is for me seeing how Cincinnati and Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: one year moved from a very heartbreaking, devastating playoff loss
Speaker 1: and then you know, I for getting hurt in the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl of all things, and then getting Pilford and
Speaker 1: free agency. I want to see what they're like now
Speaker 1: that they're kind of They had a lot of losses
Speaker 1: on that offensive line, big losses too. Yeah, they their
Speaker 1: season kind of comes down to their two young tackles.
Speaker 1: I'm giving them a little bit of just looking at
Speaker 1: the entirety the last four or five years, giving them
Speaker 1: credit for that, and giving the thought that this is
Speaker 1: still a pretty young team with some premier talent. So
Speaker 1: I think it would it just wouldn't surprise me if
Speaker 1: they kind of bounce back to that elevel five in
Speaker 1: the mixed level, because I could hear in my ear
Speaker 1: right now Chris Westling yelling at his mobile device. I
Speaker 1: will speak on behalf of Westling right now and say
Speaker 1: that if we're trying to talk ourselves into the idea
Speaker 1: of Andy Dalton and the Bengals going to Foxborough in
Speaker 1: a road game and winning in the playoffs, a team
Speaker 1: that hasn't won a playoff game, and and and in
Speaker 1: the entire tenure of Marvin lewis Okay, it's a bit
Speaker 1: of a pipe dream that I'll put that for shocking.
Speaker 1: That's shocking, sleeper A sleeper. That's a sleeper. That's a
Speaker 1: that is some of the major narcolepsy issue. But don't
Speaker 1: you like the Chargers? Like the Charger? I think they're
Speaker 1: saucy and and maybe and now I'll throw in the Titans.
Speaker 1: We should move on. But I think the Titans are
Speaker 1: the one the a the Bengals didn't matter. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I'm disagreeing with you, but I I you're I recognize.
Speaker 1: So the Ravens don't make that list for you. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins don't make that group for you. They're out of
Speaker 1: a sleeper tire for me. I I'm with you, guys,
Speaker 1: And You're okay with Tennessee being in a sleeper tire? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that I I'm all in. Oh you are the deciding vote.
Speaker 1: Colleen is Cincinnati and the sleeper tire. I never liked
Speaker 1: you anyways. That's why I'm not going to the Commissioner
Speaker 1: Award party. All right? Uh and everyone else we didn't
Speaker 1: talk about good luck? All right, here we go. That's fine.
Speaker 1: I want to do an there's no tears below that more.
Speaker 1: That's it. It's over. Why should we talk an extended verse?
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about what about the port Cheese
Speaker 1: forgot chiefs are in there? We all forgot about them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they definitely be. They're in there somewhere where they're in
Speaker 1: the sleeper one at least should put him at the
Speaker 1: top of the sleep I thought there was more, you know, coming.
Speaker 1: I don't actually know what I have to say. I
Speaker 1: think it would be unfair to put them even the sleeper,
Speaker 1: considering they were the number two seed last year. I
Speaker 1: put them at the bottom of the tier below the pain.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're in their own tier, the Chiefs tier, the
Speaker 1: alex Smithema, and then it's right above sleepers. Tell you,
Speaker 1: John Dorsey, maybe he's not putting them in that tier,
Speaker 1: he said, so long history, or maybe he just got fired.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. It's time to welcome into
Speaker 1: the studio. Oh my goodness, for the first time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's got to have nerves. You have to think she
Speaker 1: has a lot of nerves right now. She's coming to
Speaker 1: the studio. But she's the type she's not gonna show it. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: she won't. She's a whole under pressure. We were hyper chill.
Speaker 1: We were at a company event this week where we
Speaker 1: were implored to have a little more We were employed
Speaker 1: to have a little more swagger as a company. Danner Right,
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know if that was quite the message,
Speaker 1: but I know what you're talking. I could be getting
Speaker 1: into some trouble here. Yeah. A shadowy league figure said,
Speaker 1: we gotta get you know, I gotta get gotta get
Speaker 1: your swagger back. And my point is has had that
Speaker 1: swagger the whole time. Alexandra Fragola, known popularly as Frags,
Speaker 1: joins us something around the NFL podcast of the first time.
Speaker 1: Welcome Frags. Thank you very much for having me. All right, now,
Speaker 1: you listen, you listen to the show. If you listen
Speaker 1: to the show. You know that voice right away, let's Sully.
Speaker 1: Let's let's scroll through some greatest hits of Frogs here
Speaker 1: in the round the NFL podcast. She is our chief
Speaker 1: voiceover talent. Uh not paid, not compensated yet, definitely not
Speaker 1: compt But here's some of her greatest suits. Magnef. I
Speaker 1: would say, that's almost that's like your stairway to heaven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if if you had to have, if you were in
Speaker 1: there around the NFL Podcast Hall of Fame, like that's
Speaker 1: your plaque. It's I speak Italian. That's not Spanish Italian.
Speaker 1: It's kind of its own No, I know, but there
Speaker 1: was like that the role. Let's hear it one more time, Magnef.
Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than the sound of your own voice. Well,
Speaker 1: that's Frag. This must be fun. I imagine that. But
Speaker 1: then you had my voice. Let's hear some other hits networks.
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. I like to consider it like how Elton
Speaker 1: John had Bernie Topping. He like, I'm the Bernie Topp
Speaker 1: and I was writing the lyrics, and then Frags is
Speaker 1: the one who brings it to life. That that's the relationship.
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say? Well, the process goes like
Speaker 1: this hands is sends me a weird email and he
Speaker 1: asked me to read something, and then I come in
Speaker 1: here and I read it or he reads it in
Speaker 1: a really good voice, and I'm like, just use that
Speaker 1: and then I snort like four or five timesling and
Speaker 1: then I finally record it once in like ten seconds
Speaker 1: and we're done. And that's how the magic is made.
Speaker 1: It usually takes a couple of takes, but it's never
Speaker 1: longer than a couple of minutes. We knock it out.
Speaker 1: We do all right, let's see some that's good, ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen for one night. Sus take us through that
Speaker 1: process that created Again, that almost tough because it was
Speaker 1: like do you go like Bob Barker and and really
Speaker 1: ham it up or you a little more, you know,
Speaker 1: like lounge singer. You're very into the the lounge singer voice.
Speaker 1: So usually that's my coachan do we have anything else?
Speaker 1: Does he ever tell you to kind of slides me
Speaker 1: off a piece of that Jake brisk That's exactly what
Speaker 1: I Yeah, so I was gonna say this, Dan Ever
Speaker 1: kind of after the first day creepily be like, what
Speaker 1: were you? Oh, sex it up a little bit? I mean,
Speaker 1: he doesn't necessarily say that, but you know it's implied obviously.
Speaker 1: This is a very sexy podcast. I think I think
Speaker 1: what I do. I think we did one recently might
Speaker 1: even been this one. That question is huge. That one,
Speaker 1: that one was interesting. Yeah, that was that was maybe
Speaker 1: telling the line a little bit. There was a more
Speaker 1: recent one that we couldn't remember and people are going
Speaker 1: to tweet us about it after the show where I
Speaker 1: asked you to turn up the sultry to eight point five.
Speaker 1: That was. Yeah, nine of us can think of which
Speaker 1: one that one was. It's unfortunate. The huge one was
Speaker 1: just top notch because I just got an email with
Speaker 1: like huge but said forty five differently, because you have
Speaker 1: some like buddies that are listeners to the show, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: And that was how I first really learned of the podcast,
Speaker 1: when you guys were just up and come on those streets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like sitting across from Frags and she wasn't
Speaker 1: even aware of what we're doing. Well, Magic, that's nothing
Speaker 1: special to you. That's just me in general all the time.
Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna do a little exercise um
Speaker 1: called ask Frags anything the listeners helped us out this.
Speaker 1: But before we do that, if you don't mind, Frags,
Speaker 1: We're going to get our New Jersey correspondent, Connor or
Speaker 1: on the line. Would you like to sit in for
Speaker 1: a little or you kidding me? Of course? You mean
Speaker 1: the mayor of Indie or why do you call him that?
Speaker 1: This is because he knows everything about Indie. When I
Speaker 1: was at the combine, he was like the guru love.
Speaker 1: I hope he's listening right now. All the tunnels like everything.
Speaker 1: You don't have to go outside. He can correct me.
Speaker 1: But I believe he's spoken about relocating to Indye. He
Speaker 1: likes it so much in another world. He just I
Speaker 1: believe the story is and he was looking for a job.
Speaker 1: Are you on, Connor, I've made it. Yeah, Hey, buddy,
Speaker 1: would you mind telling us one more time the story
Speaker 1: of when you were job hunting and you were trying
Speaker 1: to pitch your wife on moving to Indianapolis. It was Cincinnati?
Speaker 1: Was Cincinnati? I told her? Was that Indianapolis is only
Speaker 1: like an hour and a half away, So spend many
Speaker 1: a magical day and night there. Frag's is in the studio, Connor,
Speaker 1: and she was marveling to us about your almost encyclopedic
Speaker 1: knowledge of the city of Indianapolis, one of one of
Speaker 1: America's great mid tier cities, but nobody knows it better
Speaker 1: than you. Ah yeah, I think you know, out of
Speaker 1: all the things in the world, is probably not the
Speaker 1: most useful thing to be in a cyclopedic expert about,
Speaker 1: but it gets to me where I need to go.
Speaker 1: All right, So Connor, every once in a while, new
Speaker 1: listeners to the show should understand this that Connor is
Speaker 1: a guy. He's a he's a low key guy. But
Speaker 1: sometimes Connor needs to get some off his chest and
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, he just my blow. He's that type
Speaker 1: of situation. So what we do here on the AUN
Speaker 1: the our podcast, we provide Connor that platform with a
Speaker 1: segment that we call or are you kidding me? I
Speaker 1: just want to know why I haven't been approached about
Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Ever, Alright,
Speaker 1: we could talk about it after the show, and I should.
Speaker 1: I should mention because contractually we're obligated to do so.
Speaker 1: That Connor, you are on the me Undis Underpants hotline
Speaker 1: right now, let's say, Uh, that's an honor, that's uh,
Speaker 1: that's something that I never thought would happen. So what's
Speaker 1: grinding your gears? Connor? So I was reading some letters
Speaker 1: to the editor from Sports Illustrated the other day and
Speaker 1: this guy, for probably the hundredth time, but it's every
Speaker 1: person thinks that they've come up with this idea and
Speaker 1: for the first time. You know, what we need to
Speaker 1: do to fix football is put in Reilly Gaishen like
Speaker 1: English soccer because it's so refined and it'll do this.
Speaker 1: Just shut up. You know, this is just the stupidest
Speaker 1: idea and I'm sick of hearing about it. Football eight football,
Speaker 1: get it through your Yeah, why does it? Why does
Speaker 1: that annoy you so much? Connor? Well, there's two things.
Speaker 1: First of all, you can tell who this guy is.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, the craft beer guy with the
Speaker 1: tech job who lives to the dirty projectors, and he's like, wow,
Speaker 1: no one's ever thought of this while I played PIFA
Speaker 1: email Peter King. But you know, okay, so let's turn
Speaker 1: football into a league where they've had four different champions
Speaker 1: since that's that's exactly what we want to do over here.
Speaker 1: Parody is not as great as you may think it is. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's the other way, right, four different Champions. Harold Crow
Speaker 1: won the Grammy for Best New Artists. Is this is
Speaker 1: this Connor a shot? Not just uh at the idea,
Speaker 1: but at soccer itself. I think it's fine, but like,
Speaker 1: just don't don't make your thing my thing, Like this
Speaker 1: is this is our thing and it's over here, and
Speaker 1: then you got your thing over there, and they're both good.
Speaker 1: So why you know, oh, let's make a hamburger pizza. No, like,
Speaker 1: let's let's keep it the way it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite shell Crow song? Mine's my favorite mistake?
Speaker 1: What is yours? By? Um? I would say that's a
Speaker 1: good one. I want to soak up the sun a
Speaker 1: little late period Crow? Right, yeah, like Lance Armstrong period Crow?
Speaker 1: All right, so what what do you like? What do
Speaker 1: you say to that guy? What is the way to
Speaker 1: give him some constructive criticism about his ability to criticize football? Okay,
Speaker 1: so like what so you're gonna like just relegate, you know,
Speaker 1: you're gonna relegate the Browns and and like eight other
Speaker 1: teams and then just a quarter of football is just
Speaker 1: that will see you next year? You know. I think
Speaker 1: it's just a terrible idea and it works for them.
Speaker 1: Over there. But I would say if you have an idea,
Speaker 1: like just run it by like three other people for
Speaker 1: just keep it to yourself the greatest idea ever and
Speaker 1: then calling someone and just you know, spouting off. It's
Speaker 1: about forming your own board of bad ideas. Anything else
Speaker 1: you have to add their Hunter or are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: I think you made very fair points there. I think
Speaker 1: that's something that comes up a lot now. And it's
Speaker 1: you know, enough of the relegation. I thought you were
Speaker 1: even gonna go go hard at the the entire letters
Speaker 1: to the editor industry. Maybe get rid of those. I
Speaker 1: think it's a fine way to connect. It's just you know,
Speaker 1: and and there are plenty of people who makes in
Speaker 1: valid points. I think we need to hear from everybody,
Speaker 1: but just not that guy. I have noticed that Connors
Speaker 1: or you kidding me is have gone from clearly kinda
Speaker 1: off the off the top of his head too, a
Speaker 1: little bit scripted, but scripted in a way that that
Speaker 1: just it is. The qualities is increasing with every episode,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. Do you want to get a
Speaker 1: do you want to get a plug in on your
Speaker 1: your secondary podcast? Oh uh? Mark Sessler and I The
Speaker 1: Heat and Light podcast taping episode four on Monday. Who
Speaker 1: is heat and who is Light? Um? I think that's
Speaker 1: for everybody to decide, you know. I think that's part
Speaker 1: of part of the beauty of it. We try not to,
Speaker 1: uh to define anything but just sort of let you
Speaker 1: dictate your own experience. Can we get a little taste
Speaker 1: of what was on the last episode, like a little teaser? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the last episode we kind of dug into some ghosts
Speaker 1: were was really sort of the central focus of it.
Speaker 1: Haunting and uh, sort of some of the demons that
Speaker 1: emerged from from the Sharon Tate murders in California. Marks
Speaker 1: Secondary podcast. You guys talked about the Sharon Tate murders.
Speaker 1: This is stunning, um, all right? And day secret government
Speaker 1: villages in mountains, It's the real thing. Tune in, alright,
Speaker 1: make sure you check it out. And also, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be listening to these other podcasts, Episode
Speaker 1: three of the Throwback pa Pot is up this week.
Speaker 1: We focus on Pickerton anybody any Picker defends in the room,
Speaker 1: a little deep dive Weezer follow up, Yeah, Mountain this
Speaker 1: one what you can do? All right? Thank you Connor,
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, weezer talk. You know, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? That sounds great? Uh, it's okay, alright, So
Speaker 1: now it's time with frags still with us. How was
Speaker 1: your first or you kidding me? Experience? It lived up
Speaker 1: to the hype. It's you know, I only met Connor
Speaker 1: once in person and it was far exceeded my expectations.
Speaker 1: So we went to the Nicki Blaine cigar Ball. My
Speaker 1: hair smelled like cigar for like six weeks. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Like I immediately had to take a shower after leaving
Speaker 1: that place. Um, alright, so here we go. Let's go
Speaker 1: through some questions. Chris Law, who of course used to
Speaker 1: work here and now he works over on the Rich
Speaker 1: Eyes and Show, he asked the question I think many
Speaker 1: people have wondered about frags as we begin ask frags anything,
Speaker 1: Why what is frags hiding from the Twitter world? Hashtag
Speaker 1: locked a count? You don't see locked ac counts too
Speaker 1: often on Twitter anymore. Why are you locked? I don't
Speaker 1: really know. I think I locked it when I was
Speaker 1: like twenty two and I was scared I was going
Speaker 1: to get fired if I retweeted like Complex magazine articles.
Speaker 1: And since I still do that I just kind of
Speaker 1: left it locked, but I mean, if there's demand for it,
Speaker 1: I could definitely unlock it. Uh all right, Next up,
Speaker 1: when now you're gonna get a lot of listeners. I
Speaker 1: did I shout out to the like twenty people who
Speaker 1: added me after your Fraggle Rocks Rocks. Yeah, Fraggles Rocks.
Speaker 1: So you approved them, you let them in? Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I trust the people that you trust, so
Speaker 1: if they if they turn out to be that's kind
Speaker 1: of on you, guys. It's a reflection of a podcasts
Speaker 1: pressure pressure moving on. When Matt money Smith gets too
Speaker 1: famous and he's almost there now that he's the voice
Speaker 1: of the Chargers, will you take over the money drops?
Speaker 1: I had this, Honestly, it never crossed my mind, and
Speaker 1: I love the idea. Uh, Matt money Smith is does
Speaker 1: our intros for our show? Would you potentially be willing
Speaker 1: to replace Matt money I mean we have to do
Speaker 1: some negotiations and have to talk to Jeff Birchfield, my
Speaker 1: manager slash representation without due respect. You know, compensation would
Speaker 1: have to be there. You know, commanization could easily be
Speaker 1: like a slice of pizza once a month. So it's
Speaker 1: you know with our budget. Yeah, I'm in with all
Speaker 1: due respect, crags. Do you know I'm a big, big
Speaker 1: fan of you, But this is like asking Jimmy Garoppolo
Speaker 1: about taking Tom Brady's job when Tom Brady is still
Speaker 1: in his prime. They're called money drops. I mean you
Speaker 1: also started the conversation by saying we needed more swagger.
Speaker 1: And what's more swagg errific than demanding money to do
Speaker 1: something or in this case pizza? I think that's fair. Uh,
Speaker 1: this one is ties back to Uh. Greg had a
Speaker 1: squabble with Miko Grimes. Uh do you hashtag stand with
Speaker 1: a Miko or roll with the double G? Uh? Where
Speaker 1: do you go with this g? Double G? He's six,
Speaker 1: which the first time I heard that was mind blowing.
Speaker 1: Not that I want beef with Miko because Miko like
Speaker 1: clearly knows what she's doing, just not first radio. Yes,
Speaker 1: so you're kind of backing down for Miko but also
Speaker 1: supporting Greg. I would all I'm ready to die for Greg.
Speaker 1: I mean, Greg's awesome, so very good. Let's see else. Oh,
Speaker 1: this is a good one. This will be fun. Did
Speaker 1: you uh practice like I asked you to? You didn't
Speaker 1: tell me to practice, You just sent it to me, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what you're doing. This one was some Gabriel
Speaker 1: Martin's why did you turn down the voice role on
Speaker 1: the movie Her? Her is one of my favorite movies
Speaker 1: of the last fifteen years. I've never seen it. Oh,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it either. Jack Owen Phoenix, Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is when he was doing his like weird performance art.
Speaker 1: Now this is post now that was after that. This
Speaker 1: is a great movie, one of the I'm with you,
Speaker 1: one of my five or six favorite movies in the
Speaker 1: last ten years. Absolutely, here is one of my um
Speaker 1: one of the more well known UH dialogue scenes from
Speaker 1: that film, in which Scarlett Johansson plays a disembodied robit
Speaker 1: basically in a future world and and Jack Owen is
Speaker 1: that he pronounced it Joaquin Phoenix. I like Jacqueen Joaquin
Speaker 1: Phoenix in love. Yes, I was like, I don't know
Speaker 1: who I'm talking about this, So I thought, this is
Speaker 1: like some weird around the NFL thing that I just
Speaker 1: does a lot of bits. Let's listen to this terrible thorn.
Speaker 1: I think, are these feelings even real or are they
Speaker 1: just programming? The idea really hurts, and then I'm getting
Speaker 1: angry at myself. For even having pain. What a sound trick.
Speaker 1: You feel real to me, san Thank you Theodore. That
Speaker 1: means a lot to me. Alright, so, um, this is
Speaker 1: for that listener who wanted to know why Frogs turned
Speaker 1: it down. We're going to now reenact that role. Uh, frags,
Speaker 1: get us gone. There's absolutely no way I'm ta get
Speaker 1: through that. You could do that. You're professional, You've proven
Speaker 1: it in the studio. Now is the time with the
Speaker 1: lights up. I am Theodore. You are Samantha. Go this
Speaker 1: is I want you to be Samantha. But I had
Speaker 1: this terrible thought like are these feelings even real or
Speaker 1: are they just programming? And the idea really hurts, and
Speaker 1: then I get angry at myself for even having pain.
Speaker 1: What a sad trick. You feel real to me, Samantha.
Speaker 1: Thank you Theodore. It means a lot to me. There
Speaker 1: we go. That's amazing. Now that is probably the weirdest
Speaker 1: thing I've ever done for you. That answers some other
Speaker 1: questions people I had that would see that you could
Speaker 1: have played that role. Joe Hansson wasn't even in the movie.
Speaker 1: It was just her voice. I heard you make a
Speaker 1: lot of money doing that, so you should do that
Speaker 1: into that. Yeah, maybe you do need Johnson was a
Speaker 1: last minute replacement. They did the whole movie with some
Speaker 1: one else's voice and then took her out carried the
Speaker 1: movie or like the background knowledge on that one, and
Speaker 1: that was Greg. You and I both are big fans
Speaker 1: of that movie. You guys, ladies, Yeah, check out her.
Speaker 1: I bet you like. And the final question, uh is
Speaker 1: as follows Frank's. Who is John Gonzalez? John Ronald Gonzalez
Speaker 1: born Mar twelve n is an American sports writer, was
Speaker 1: married NFL meda broadcaster College Wolf. John, who was a pisces,
Speaker 1: resides in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs.
Speaker 1: We have the answer. Yeah. I actually like looked that
Speaker 1: up because I was like, what's happening? And my first
Speaker 1: thought was like, that's Colleen's husband, right, And then there
Speaker 1: was all this stuff that was like around the NFL
Speaker 1: podcast who does Colleen Wolf Date? And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is a rabbit hole down You
Speaker 1: got a lot of fans out there. I love that
Speaker 1: you googled it, Oh yeah, because I was like, I
Speaker 1: had all these les John Gonzale, all these likes, I
Speaker 1: mean curious, it's a rabbit hole a lot of people
Speaker 1: have been going into it's a question America is asking
Speaker 1: and it's kind of slowly driving John insane. We get
Speaker 1: it in different languages now too. All right, Franks came
Speaker 1: in here and and you showed the world that you
Speaker 1: could do it with the lights off and the lights
Speaker 1: on this podcast, so a very good job. When are
Speaker 1: the lights off? Because when we do it, these lights
Speaker 1: overhead don't read into it. I'm not. That's terrible, colleg
Speaker 1: you know what. That's not a way to end. This
Speaker 1: marks the first and last time I'll appear on this
Speaker 1: and it wasn't my fault. All right, Okay, thank you, Franks,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me, and keep up the good work.
Speaker 1: And one day we will pay you. I will hold
Speaker 1: my breath from that. Really, no, like just about yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll work well. Greg is handling all this. He's the
Speaker 1: money many for our female union in here. That a
Speaker 1: Jewish c That's a great idea. That was not a
Speaker 1: Jewish crack. We need to get out of here now.
Speaker 1: Things are splintering. This is Dan hands Is signing off
Speaker 1: for Raggles Rock, Connie Fox, The Boss, and Sully behind
Speaker 1: the Glass till Monday m