1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has an open tab at 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: Huka Poose. Welcome back to another edition of the Around 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus, and I 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: am joined by a room filled with some heroes. To 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: my left, Colleen Wolf, to my right, Greg Rosenthal. What's up, people, Yeah, 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: get ready for this show. I've got a lot of coffee. 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Colleen does have a uh interesting energy here here today. 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of buzz to her. She's doing 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: the live updates for NFL Network today, which means you've 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: been up for a long time. I've been up since five. 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: You're just on You're just on live television. You literally 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: ripped the handle off our door while you were on 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: their way to the bathroom. You pack a lot of 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: strength into that, the small frame of yours. Colleen, You've 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: you've left us trapped in here. Now I know at 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: least we have water that's good and all, and Sally, 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: we must feast on you if it comes to it. Alive, 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: Oh dear. This is the Thursday edition in Around the 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. Uh and we are excited to have Connie 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: with us, and we have as as I mentioned on Twitter, 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: if you follow on Twitter, and damn it, you should 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: a little later today. One of the voices, the behind 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: the scenes voices of the Around the NFL podcast, Frags, 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: is gonna join us, and also we'll have another we'll 25 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: have another UH satellite hero joining in via the telephone 26 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: at the end of the show. A lot to get 27 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: to it. They're excited about today's show. And also tonight 28 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: UH is the Commissioner's Awards party, the tenth annual even 29 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: another company function, another company function with an open bar, 30 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: which is good, best part of this time of year. Uh, Colleen, 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: you and I are going, and I promise videos. What 32 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: was Greg's zach reactions? Said? Greg? Do you want to come? Ye? 33 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: Who cares? I didn't say that. Why should I go? Though? 34 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: Who will be there? It's like I didn't see. First 35 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: of all, I got to bring Elise to her last 36 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: swim class. So if you're already back on the other 37 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: side of town, are you going to drive back just 38 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: for the second half of the thing and you live okay, 39 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: Santa Monica, but not that far. I think what I 40 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: said was there's gonna be a lot of people there, right, 41 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: that's the point. Yeah, that's scared. Does that mean just 42 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: like a large I don't like large groupings of people 43 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: are expected. That's why there's a barcie. I have a 44 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: couple of drinks. Let loose, will have some fun together, 45 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: all right. Yeah, I don't believe I don't come in. 46 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: This is like the time where the NFL Network Temph 47 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: anniversary party where we went and Greg didn't go, and 48 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: it was a chance to bond with Gregg. He was 49 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: kind of newer at the company and he just no 50 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: showed that that event, and we're like, what's going on 51 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: with this guy? And here we are five halfs later 52 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: and the same story. We need you, Greg, We want 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: you on that wall. We need you on that wall. 54 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: Come please come Greg? All right, comfortable? Okay. So that's 55 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: that's today's show. Um, So before we get into anything else, 56 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: So there is some actual news, legitimate news. Kind of 57 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: a good slash bad day to be the news lady today. 58 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: I know, this is my first day doing news updates. Wow. 59 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: Claibon sits there all weak, you know, picking his nose. Yeah, 60 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: reading a Steven Seagal book that I got him. And 61 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: then here comes Connie Fox and all of a sudden, 62 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: the world blows up. Sally, let's hit some news. Um, Sully, 63 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: are you going to the party? Oh? Why not? You're 64 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: the life of the party. Your life of the party guy. Yeah, 65 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: not feeling it. It's my Friday night. Okay, what does 66 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: Sully do on his Friday night? I have no plans 67 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: right now, but I'm not going to the party. So 68 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: you're skipping out on the party. It's your Friday night. 69 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: There's free open bar and you have no plans. Yeah, 70 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm with Greg, not not. I see you guys all day, 71 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: every day. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just hey, calm down, Sully. 72 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: I'll see you guys at Hananas afterwards. All right, Yeah, 73 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: let's move on and start with the biggest news of 74 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: the day. Uh. The contract that we have neatly avoided 75 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: throughout this spring is now a done deal between Derek 76 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: Carr and the Raiders. On Thursday, the two sides agreed 77 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: to a five year, one and twenty five million dollar 78 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: extension forty million fully guaranteed, seventy million and total guarantees. 79 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: Someone can explain that to me. I don't know, but 80 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: I know it's a whole mess of money for Derek 81 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: Carr and his great great great great great grandchildren uh, 82 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: Paul and a half million signing bonus to all. According 83 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: to rap sheet, UH, the deal puts Car over Colts 84 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: quarterback Andrew Lucky is now the highest paid player in 85 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: the league in terms of average money per year. And 86 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: this is all happening because Derek Carr played like an 87 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: m v P last year UH in his And you 88 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 1: know that's not even trying to get on Derek Car's 89 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: good side. That's strictly based on his production where he 90 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: led the Raiders to the precipice of the a f 91 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: C West title um before breaking his leg on Christmas Eve. 92 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: But he's twenty six. Uh really is an excellent young quarterback. 93 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: And Greg, what does this tell you about the landscape 94 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: of the NFL that Derek Carr got this deal at 95 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: this time, Well, they had no choice. This is such 96 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: an awkward season for the Oakland Raiders, arguably the most 97 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: awkward season in the history of the NFL that any 98 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: team's tried to have. And they've been building up to 99 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: it for about fifteen years to have a good team 100 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: like this. They haven't had a homegrown quarterback to call 101 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: their own since Kenny Stabler, who left town twelve years 102 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: before Derek Carr was born and and right when this 103 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: is happening, they announced their leaving for Las Vegas to 104 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: so to have your best player in a contract situation 105 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: hanging over the team like that wasn't an option. And 106 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: I think this was an easy contract to do because 107 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: I think general managers like Reggie mackenzie and owners, I 108 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: think they all understand that quarterbacks are underpaid, that this 109 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: is not that much money for Derek Carr, that he's 110 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: worth more than this. Yeah, they I mean they had 111 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: to do it. It was just a matter of when 112 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: it was going to get done, so it was inevitable. 113 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: And now it sets the market for guys like Matthew 114 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: Stafford and Kirk Cousins who I mean film Kirk Cousins 115 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: if he if he hits the free agent market, I mean, 116 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 1: he could be making thirty million dollars and like playing 117 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: with the forty niners. Yeah, it opens up to a 118 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: whole array of questions about who's worth this type of money. 119 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: And Greg you Um wrote a column like a good 120 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: NFL dot com worker, b uh, talking about why all 121 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: these people like the first take type shows and everybody 122 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna waste entire segments a blocks b blocks talking 123 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: about is this guy worth the money? Your your opinion is, 124 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: of course he is, just like almost every guy that 125 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: can throw the ball in this league should be paid 126 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: like this. Well, think about what would Derek Carr in 127 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: another world where teams actually allowed quarterbacks to hit free agency? 128 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: What would he get from the Browns or the Jets 129 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: or the Texas whatever team it's gonna be No, Seriously, like, 130 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: how much money do you think he would get if 131 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: he was on the open market. I think they're If 132 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: the Jets had a chance to get Derek Carr next 133 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: year and they don't even have to give up anything 134 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: in a trade, you just signed up, open up your pocketbook, 135 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: I think you could he would command probably something in 136 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: the range of thirty five million a year maybe. But 137 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: it's finally starting to make sense because the years we 138 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: talked on this podcast for years how quarterbacks are getting 139 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: paid less than top sluggers in baseball or NBA stars. 140 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: Now that money is starting to get where it should be, 141 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: right and think about them even compared to other players. 142 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: So Olivia Vernon's getting seventeen a year, that's only thirty 143 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: percent less than Derek Carr. Nick Perry, who I like 144 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: a lot as a pass Rushers has signed basically the 145 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: same amount of years this car for about half as 146 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: much money. How many Nick Perry's would it take in 147 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: a trade for you to give up Derek Carr? Like eight? 148 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: Like not? Like you know, and he's making half answers, right, 149 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: there's no answer. There's you know, complications with cloning and 150 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: morality and all those sorts of things. And this is 151 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: all not even mentioning the fact that there's a salary cap. Now, 152 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: what if there wasn't a salary cap? What if the NFL, 153 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: America's greatest game wasn't run essentially like you know, communism, socialism, 154 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: so these colors don't run. I don't like it talking 155 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: about football like that. It's one of the reasons why 156 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: the NFL is good. They share their profits, they cap 157 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: worker you know, wages. The franchise tag limits the movement. 158 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: Like if these guys actually could get like the rest 159 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: of the world, you know, their capitalists like what they earned. 160 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it'd be worth fifties seventy 161 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. I don't know. These are billion 162 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: dollar companies. I would be interested to see how the 163 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: deal structured too, because I'm sure it's going to be 164 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: backloaded just so they can get deals done with their 165 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: guys like Gabe Jackson on the offensive line he has 166 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: a deal coming up, and Khalil Mack two. But also 167 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: not to mention that Nevada has no sales tax sales 168 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: and I mean they usually are, but I feel like 169 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 1: it might be even more so because that's going to 170 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: save him so much money. California is like thirteen point 171 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: three state tax. They they did, uh delay a lot 172 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: of the guarantees until later in the contracts so that 173 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: you could get and unlike a lot of NFL countrics, 174 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: when you sign these young quarterback franchise quarterback, I mean 175 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna he's actually gonna get through most of it. 176 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: He'll end up signing a new deal for even more 177 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: with a year or two left. And what they do, um, 178 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: it's this is the both tells you the explosion of 179 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: of the league and the money involved, but also you 180 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: know the story of inflation, which Colleen will get to 181 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: when she anchors the Inflation Podcast later this summer. But 182 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: once upon a time, back in ninety six, the New 183 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: York Jets signed Neil O'donnald to a top of the 184 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: market five year, twenty five million dollar deal. Now we're 185 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: at five for one twenty five million. And I will 186 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: also add that the five for twenty five curse does 187 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: it carry to five for one? Is it? Is it 188 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: even worse? What will be fall are great leader, Derek Carr, 189 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope nothing fair. New listeners, you 190 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: have a theory that five for twenty five million dollars 191 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: is a cursed contract. I want you to go through 192 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: every sport in the last twenty years, twenty five years, 193 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: starting when Danny Tardi Bill signed a five year, twenty 194 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: five million dollar deal with the Yankees in nineteen two. 195 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: O'donnald with the Jets. Who was that center for the 196 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: Vikings Sullivan? Uh five years? What a bad deal? That was? 197 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: Five for twenty five will get you every time, but 198 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: five maybe it's different. I think you're fine. Yeah, congrats 199 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: to you know, the car the Car family. It's been 200 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: a big year for him. I mean he gets on 201 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast and then this right there 202 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: at the two great things. I mean, this is a 203 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: guy who started his career uh, oh intent as a 204 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: in terms of the Raiders were oh intent there were 205 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: some doubts in this room. I was wrong. Uh in 206 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: my evaluation, I think of you if you think about car, 207 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: I think he's a very he combines being he's very careful, 208 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: like he's he's composed and careful, doesn't take too many mistakes. 209 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: But then he combines that with he's like athletic enough 210 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: that when stuff gets crazy, he can improvise and just 211 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: kind of make it happen because he's that. It's like, 212 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: it's a nice combination. Um, and I do like it's 213 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: one of the one of the top jock Like fellow jocks. 214 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: Bit exchanges on social media after a big deal, and 215 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: we actually got to see it between the car brothers. 216 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: Our friend David reached out to our friend Derek and said, hey, bro, 217 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: lunch is on you next time. Uh can you imagine 218 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: like your little brother gets million dollar contract. Well, you know, 219 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: I would say I feel bad for David Carr, but 220 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: he's doing well and he's doing very well at NFL 221 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: Network and that that guy and I reached out to 222 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: Sydney about this privately. Last Friday, David got a haircut 223 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: and now he's better looking, which is not That is 224 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: not cool. David Carr was already a fantastic looking guy, 225 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: and then he gets a haircut. It's a little less, 226 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: a little less juice going on up top of the 227 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: part changed a little bit, and now we're an uncharted territory. 228 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: Hair expert Dan Hands is chiming in. I mean, because 229 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: now he's nailed the hair and now the roof is off. 230 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: The first time that John saw him, he was like, 231 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: he came running over to me and was like, that's 232 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: the most handsome man I've ever seen in my life. 233 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: Here you're talking about let's move on. We should move on. 234 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: I can't just keep talking about another man that I 235 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: work with like this. I mean, it's fine, you should 236 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: talk to him tonight at the You've done it every 237 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: this week. You also made Patrick Cleavan visibly uncomfortable with 238 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: your lot. You know he can do all that good. Yeah, 239 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: I only have so much mercy upon nine and a 240 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: half's in general when we of my own gender Mark Chris, 241 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: and I've never heard any of these problems from you. Alright, 242 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: Moving on, big news in Kansas City, a huge shake 243 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: up there. Uh. First we heard that Andy Reid got 244 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: an extension, which you know was notable obviously, but not 245 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: surprising or stunning. But then we got the word that 246 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: John Dorsey, the general manager of the team, will part 247 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: ways of the team effective immediately, which kind of through 248 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: the football coat is SENTI for a loop, including one 249 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. Greg, this on a lot of levels. This 250 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, there's got to be something cooking behind the scenes, 251 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: because this doesn't make sense. The Chiefs are the prime 252 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: model of having a front office getting it right, building 253 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: a team the right way, and now you get rid 254 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: of the guy that ostensibly is at the top of 255 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: the pyramid. It is stunning because I think I've said 256 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: on this podcast Dorsey and read I think I've had 257 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: the textbook example of coming into an organization that was 258 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: in bad shape in a lot of ways and immediately 259 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: flipping it, having a vision of these are the types 260 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: of players we're gonna go for, this is how we're 261 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: gonna coach sinking up and they immediately flipped their record. 262 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: I believe they were twenty one and forty three in 263 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: the in the few years before they got there, and 264 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: and they're almost exactly flipped in the four years after 265 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: three playoff spots, and they're drafting well. Everyone likes working there, 266 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: like it was believed to be a good relationship, and 267 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: then you get this statement out of nowhere from the 268 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: chairman of the chiefs, Clark Hunt at Dorsey's gone. Yeah, 269 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: these two they've never finished lower than second place together. 270 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: And as soon as I saw this news, it is 271 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: almost like, so Andy Reid is signing this extension and 272 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: staying and Dorsey's out, Like I mean, is that read 273 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: being like you can keep me, but he's got to go, 274 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: Like I wonder if everything under wrap. It was almost 275 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: like the organization perhaps knowing that Dorsey leaving would lead 276 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: to a mess of questions about the entire regime, and 277 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: maybe we extended read just so you know it's not 278 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: there's nothing crazy crazy happening, but we're moving on from 279 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: the GM well, the the state. I think we'll learn 280 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: more when you know our NFL network insidery and rapport 281 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: chimes in. I think there will be more of a backstory. 282 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: So this is in motion, but I do think you 283 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: can learn from this on the golf course right now. 284 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: You can learn from the statement that the Hunt family released. 285 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: Clark specifically, he said, I notified John we would not 286 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: be extending his contract beyond the two thousand seventeen season. 287 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: After consideration, we felt like it was in his best 288 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: interests and the best interests of the team to part 289 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: ways now. So something Usually coach and GM gets their 290 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: contracts at the same time. They want to be a line. 291 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: Whenever this contract negotiation started with Dorsey, you would think 292 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: the play, the expectation was he was gonna be there 293 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: because they have let Dorsey make all the moves this offseason. 294 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: They let him shuffle much of his personnel staff. He 295 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: let go of some people, so they're Chris Ballard's goal 296 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: and that was their number two guys, right, Chris Ballard 297 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: left because he had a better job. They wouldn't know, 298 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: so you would think this is all taking it by surprise. 299 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: But the fact that they mentioned his contract and you know, 300 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: two be square. We talked with someone downstairs off the record, 301 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: but I didn't have three sources on it, so I 302 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: was gonna stay quiet. Has a different policy I would 303 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: have said. I would have said the same thing, that 304 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: it seems like the contract and whether that's money or 305 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: power or whatever it is that that began a disagreement, 306 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: and who knows. Maybe Dorsey didn't play it well and 307 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: the Hunt only said all right, see you who knows 308 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: these things can happen in contracts, people emotions? You know? 309 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: How well? Is this this your contracts coming up? Colleen? 310 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: Want to talk about that? That's that's right, that's on 311 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: the that's on the inflation pod. Well done. Um, yeah, 312 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: that roster has been constructed extremely well. And now without 313 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: your number one guy, your number two guys, they better 314 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: trust their number three guys. The thing is they shuffled out. 315 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: There are a lot of the guys that would be 316 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: the three four ft like key guys in that personnel staff. 317 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: So it's they're starting over at a very strange time. 318 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: I can't remember Jeam ever being fired at this time 319 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: of year. It's it's a weird move for It's a 320 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: weird move for a team that's been doing so well. 321 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: And we're going to find out more once all of 322 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: our insiders get off the golf course. There's multiple these 323 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: guys are like Trump level. That doesn't include you though, 324 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, listen, we're here. Let me 325 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: tell you some about where where I grew up. Where 326 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: I grew up, I mean in my cold town. Um, 327 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: there's no room for for golf courses, barely any trees, 328 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: how did you relax. I'll tell you how we relaxed 329 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: when we got when we got out of that shoot 330 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: and we we could still breathe. That's the most relaxing 331 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,239 Speaker 1: breath you want to take. Oh my god, you are 332 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: in this, in this fantasy land you have. You are 333 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: now working the coal mine at a kid. I got 334 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: out and anybody that you just cracked open a beer? Yeah, 335 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: anybody that what's the name of the town again, the 336 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: Pearl River, New York, The Town of Friendly People, anybody, 337 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: That's how we got the name, the Town of Friendly People. 338 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: Anybody that got out. You were as friendly as can 339 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: be because you were alive. You're just happy drinking in 340 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: the air. Alright, I'm glad you're here. Dan, I'm glad 341 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: to be here. And I can't wait to see it tonight, Colleen. Right, 342 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, maybe i'll see him, Maybe I won't. Um. 343 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: Let's move on to talk a little. Let's get to 344 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: the throne of ease. Oh boy. Um. David Harris was 345 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: dumped by the Jets uh earlier this month. He was 346 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: a Jets life ver since two thousand, seventeen, ten years, 347 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: started every game. UH. Was really the lifeblood of that defense. Uh. 348 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: In the middle, uh, their play caller and all that, 349 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: and now he lands with of course the New England Patriots, 350 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: who Uh, if you through the years, if you followed 351 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: the Jets Patriots quote unquote rivalry, you knew that Belichick 352 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: had a very high um level of respect for Harris 353 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: and the way you played the game. And now there's talk, 354 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: uh that he Colleen is going to be a starter 355 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: potentially in New England, and it feels like David Harris 356 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: might end up getting a ring out of all this, 357 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: of w and how about that. I know this is 358 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: a nightmare for you, but that's how these things happened, 359 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 1: especially with the Patriots. And look at what they've done 360 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: this offseason, just the guys that they've picked up from 361 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: within the division. David Harris, Uh, just happened. And then 362 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: you have Mike Gillesley and stuff on Gilmore from the Bills. 363 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: They're just poaching everybody from the division and they're gonna 364 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna win another ring. I'm sorry, Well, a couple 365 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: of things. First of all, I didn't really poach David 366 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: Harrison the Jets. The Jets moved on from David Harris, 367 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: but and I got it a ton of tweets immediately 368 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: upon this news breaking, including what was the one Greg 369 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: that it was both of us. I wish I wish 370 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: you could. I wish I could pay to see the 371 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: text exchange between Dan and Greg right now after this, 372 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: Like everybody thought I was gonna wake up see Twitter 373 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: and just be like ripping out my hair and anger. No, 374 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: David Harris, and maybe this this is kind of part 375 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: of why he was underappreciated as a Jet. He just 376 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: went about his work. He wasn't, you know, a change 377 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: the game type player. He would just start a really 378 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: steady guy, consistent, consistent, smart, smart, you know, a guy 379 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: that that never missed the practice and and lead the 380 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: right way. And that's part of the reason I thought 381 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: they should have held on to him, just because you 382 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: could do it by the way. You could tear it 383 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: down like the Jets are doing a full rebuild. And 384 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: I get it, and I get it what he wants 385 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: to save money, But you should keep some of these 386 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: guys in the building to like teach the young guys 387 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: how to play the game and show them a path. 388 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: Eric Decker and David Harris were two guys that were 389 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: exactly the type of veterans that you look for, but 390 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: sometimes the owner wants to save money because this is 391 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: a plaything. And I think I am not upset that 392 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: David Harrison of the Patriots. I'm really not. The Rivas 393 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: once stung a little bit, absolutely because he was oh 394 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: he was the most famous Jet of my lifetime. But uh, Harrison, 395 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: I'm happy for him. I might try to sign with 396 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: the Jets and the Jaguars or something. I'm that's not 397 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: I I didn't there was no Texas change, and I 398 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: think Harris, if if all goes well, will be that 399 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: veteran guy that pick up kind of searching for the 400 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: ring like a junior, say hour or stuff. But let's 401 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: not get carried away. They the money tells part of 402 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: the story. Two years, five million, one point to five guaranteed, 403 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: So that tells me he's on the team this year, 404 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: he's getting paid like, uh, not a real starter, but 405 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: kind of like a rotational type of guy. He'll help 406 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: out that The signing and immediately reminded me of was 407 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: the Jets. The Patriots signing one of Bill Belichick's all 408 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: time favorite Jets, which was Sean Ellis. And I don't 409 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: think anyone really remembers Sean ellis Is one year with 410 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots, he was just you know there, he was 411 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: a guy on the team and that was that. That's how, 412 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: that's how, it's more likely how these things go. He 413 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: got that contract solely because out of nowhere he played 414 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: like a defensive end version of LT and that playoff 415 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: game the Jets speed the Patriots at Foxbor all those 416 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: years ago. Now. But yeah, so it could be Elise. 417 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: He could be another Jets example. Victor Greene, another top 418 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: fifty all time Jet on their according to their list, 419 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: went to the Pats in the early two thousand's. I 420 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: think he got a ring with the Pats. There was 421 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: a memorable his first game back in the meadow Lands. 422 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: He had to pick six of any test of already. 423 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: Uh so, good luck to David Harrison. Everyone thinks that 424 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: I'm like freaking out at all times. I'm trust thing 425 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: the process right now, hashtag trust the process, and uh, 426 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm thinking bigger things. A certain guy playing in USC 427 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to talk about him, but I'm thinking 428 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: big picture and that starts with a tune four. All Right, 429 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough year, That's what's happening in 430 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: the news. Good good news chatter. Yeah, it's been a 431 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: great day. I'm I'm I'm looking at your rundown right 432 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: now and there's an amazing picture of frags on there. 433 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like to put in the rundown I 434 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: send out to the team. Um, I like to add 435 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: a picture. Sometimes it's a picture of Colleen. If I'll 436 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: do a Google which if if the league ever audited 437 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: my Google searches, they would think it was me being creepy. 438 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: But it's really just I'd like to get an image 439 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: in there. Just got fun research. 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I hope that wasn't 466 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: too fast for that guy that loves underpant's commercial reads 467 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: so much that he wants he wants to save it. 468 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: How about this buddy, go into the your your playback 469 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: on your iPhone or your Android and play it at 470 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: half speed, and I really say, really dig in, enjoy 471 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: your maybe even listening on two time speed. Maybe. Alright, 472 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: so let's move on now. So the Raiders have their quarterback, 473 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: and we never stressed about it in this room. It 474 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: was a major story until the deal happened. But you 475 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: know it was gonna happen. But here's here's the good 476 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: thing is that they got the deal done. This will 477 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: not hang over them and it won't be a distraction 478 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: distraction to me. It doesn't make the Raiders a bigger 479 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: threat in two thousand seventeen. That's a nice little thing, though. 480 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: You take care of your quarterback and you move forward. 481 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: So why don't we check in and we we'll call 482 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: this the a f C Higher Archy Update. Great title 483 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: sounds official higher archy and um that sensetone. What's that 484 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna workshop this one? Yeah? You think it needs 485 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: it needs work? Spice it up a little bit. I 486 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: don't know. Why don't you get back to end the 487 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: show an updated title that maybe we can use in 488 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: the episode. Now you're on the spot, on the spot anyway, 489 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 1: so let's break it down. We're trying to figure out. Basically, 490 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: this is an exercise, Colleen, who could beat the damn Patriots. 491 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: I mean, let's figure this out. And so that's where 492 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'll start it this way, and Greg is 493 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: probably gonna disagree because Greg always pretends like the Patriots 494 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: aren't as good as they are. But I'm putting the 495 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: Patriots in their own class still. I'm putting them at 496 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: number one, and they're just sitting there. They got the trophies, 497 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: they got the best quarterback and the best coach, and 498 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: they had, as everyone loves to tell you, had an 499 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: amazing offseason. On top of now, they got David Harris, 500 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: a warrior in the middle of their defense. Patriots only 501 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: got better, so to me, their own class in this hierarchy. Greg, 502 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: agree or disagree, I don't agree. Come on, man, living 503 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: in a fantasy world, man, wake up. It's football football, 504 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: single elimination, one game this or that, and and the 505 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: reason I don't totally agree. Okay, they're the favorites, Yes, 506 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: they would be the team you would put first, absolutely, 507 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: But the Pittsburgh Steelers this season I think are the 508 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: best Pittsburgh Steelers team. Mike Tomlins ever had that includes 509 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, some that have been favored to make super Bowls, 510 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: one that won a Super Bowl as a lower seed. 511 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: This Steelers team has a defense little making the leap 512 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: preview that might be on making the leap, coming up, 513 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: making making the leaves back. I thought it was gonna 514 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: it was like one of those sitcoms that the ratings 515 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: keep dwindling and they somehow it keeps coming back, but 516 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: eventually there's just a shrug and they just say it's over. Well, 517 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: you know what, like you know, the last thing they 518 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: do with those are it changes formats and it's like 519 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: a half season. That's kind of what this is. Like. 520 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: It's only gonna be like five making the leaps and 521 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: and they're a little different, but one of them is 522 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: going to be the Steelers defense down to just five 523 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: from forty. Well forty was the first. Because that's a 524 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: lot and you're the only one writing it. That's a 525 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on you. Greg. If you only go five, 526 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: you almost have to go at least four out of 527 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: five to be respected in this the football CONCENTI people 528 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: don't remember people they're still listening to this podcast. After 529 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: we ranked Corridoril Patterson number one, here's a good guy. 530 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: The Steelers, Okay, the defense, this is what they've been 531 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: waiting for for a while. And then the offense among 532 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: the best offensive lines in the league. And you have Roethlisberger, Brown, 533 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: and Bell altogether all still at the height of their powers. 534 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: At the same time. I think you put this team 535 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: in almost any other season and they're better than the 536 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: consensus Super Bowl favorites going into a season. So that's 537 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: why I don't see why the Patriots and the Steelers 538 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: are on two totally crazy different planes. Colleen, am I 539 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: crazy for countering with Ben Roethlisberger's never beating the Patriots 540 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I know that doesn't matter. It's sort 541 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: of but I feel like there's always something that's like, 542 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, they have like a key injury, he's injured. 543 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: There's always something with the Steelers to make the excuse 544 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: why they didn't beat the Patriots this year. Last year 545 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: was Leavan Bell. They they haven't really met up against 546 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: Patriots too often in the in the Roethlisberger and things 547 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: are always trends until they change, you know what I mean. 548 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: And they're good enough, I I think to beat anyone. 549 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: I love the Steelers you know who else. I like, wait, 550 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: but before we go on, so you're hold that thought, Connie, 551 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: You're you're gonna honestly say, if we're making a hierarchy, yeah, 552 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: you you want to go one A, one B. You're 553 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: not gonna put the Pats in their own team. I'm 554 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: gonna give Pats the respect of number one. And they're 555 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: in the same tier as the Steelers, and those are 556 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: the two. Just those two well, because here's how I 557 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: would separate those two from the rest of the league. 558 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: I would be stunned if those teams are not in 559 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs. No one else would stun me if they 560 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: aren't in the playoffs. I mean the Steelers, is that 561 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: you're the team you're gonna talk about. The Raiders are great, 562 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: but I can I think you can find ways to 563 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: see how that division is and things could go a 564 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: little wrong for them, like they went right for them 565 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: last year, And yeah, I could. To me the Steelers 566 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: if they don't make the playoffs this year, like that's 567 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: always Mike Tomlin in trouble. That's a big that's a 568 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: huge disappointment. They're too good. Well, it's very top heavy colleague, 569 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: because you got all right, if we're gonna. I'll go 570 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: along with you, begrudgingly if you want to put the 571 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: Steelers in that tier with the Patriots. Actually I won't. 572 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna Patriots in their own Patriots in their own tier, 573 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: and then the next year should be Steelers too, And 574 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: I feel like it has to be Raiders free. Right, Yeah, 575 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: that's that's exactly what I would do too. But I 576 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: don't know if there's anybody else that belongs in that tier. 577 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: I think it's very top heavy still this conference. I 578 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: think so, because after that it's like the Chiefs, like 579 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: they I don't want to. I don't want to put 580 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: them in though their team does look good in their 581 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: offense is great. Nobody has a better record in the 582 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: last eighteen months than the Chiefs, and they've This is 583 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing with the Chiefs are always disrespected, but 584 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: um there's a reason for that is that they they're 585 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: not I don't think quite at this level. And I'm 586 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: not ready gonna. I don't want to put them in 587 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: that tier. I want to. I would put them at 588 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: the top of tier three. So if tier if tier 589 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: one is you're you're the cream of the crop. Rise 590 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: to the top. Never trust the pig, because the pig 591 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: is a cop. Okay, everybody anybody remember, right, Selly do 592 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: you know? I don't you don't know? Just a kid, Greg, 593 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, list is that Onyx. I'm like listening to 594 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: the it's the same Arizonics. Uh. It is a house 595 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: of pain. And I don't feel that way about the 596 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: the armed forces or the our local police at all. 597 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that is more an everlast thing. The 598 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: old zuister is all about the in the in the 599 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: federal Yeah, because that really wouldn't fit in with your 600 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: whole as salt to the air that I got a 601 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: lot of state troopers in my family. There you go. 602 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: Do have a pb A card? I don't what I know. 603 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: I had one for a little bit. It expired. They expire, 604 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: they expire. But that's why you have to go to 605 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: different I'm any you know. I did way back in 606 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: the day. I'm not sure how I came upon it, 607 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: but it's been a while. It's a very nice move 608 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: to get a pb A card get you out a 609 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: lot of things. It's the police benevolent yeaevolent association something 610 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: like that. Here here's the thing, the rate why the 611 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: Raiders don't belong with the Steelers. They had a bad 612 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: defense last year and they made some moves to make 613 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: you think that they're going to be better, but they 614 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: haven't had a great defense. It's it's a it's an 615 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: uneven team. I think the Steelers have the potential to 616 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: be a very good defense, be a little more bounced 617 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: along with their great off corners are a little they 618 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: got on paper, it mostly looks pretty good. You got 619 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: Cleo Mack, you got Bruce Irvan, You've made some upgrades 620 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: in the secondary. We'll see if Conley pears. He is 621 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: not going to be arrested at this and he could 622 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: be good. Like on paper, they should be a little better. 623 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: Ken Norton Jr. Has been under fire since he's been there. 624 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: They have really not had a good defense the last 625 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: few years, and they won a lot of close games. 626 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: Derek Carr's the all time leader in his first three 627 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: seasons of game winning comebacks, but it's because they're behind 628 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: in a lot of those games. Well, it's a lot 629 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: a lot of comebacks. That's where I will also I'll 630 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: counter there though, that the biggest tragedy of the season 631 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: was the Derek Carr leg injury because Christmas Eve they 632 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: were that robbed the entire all football fans of a 633 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: great a f C playoffs. And I think the Raiders 634 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: could have went toe to toe and even beating the 635 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: Patriots if that game was played in the black hole, 636 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: which it could have been, or that at the very 637 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: least they were going to get a home game and 638 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: a bye if they just would have finished out uh 639 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: the schedule the way everyone anticipated. So I think they 640 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: were already almost at the Patriots level by the end 641 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: of the last season. Um So I think that, and 642 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: I'm granting that they're below the Pats, but I don't 643 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: see a huge drop off. The Steelers are prone to funks, 644 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: if you want to base this off. Last year Ben 645 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: Roethlisberg went through stretches where he looked like a very 646 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: average quarterback. He looked every bit a thirty six year 647 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: old quarterback at times, and he has trouble staying healthy. 648 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I think I think that they're 649 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 1: in the same category. Now, let's go to the sleepers stage. 650 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: Who's who's the number one sleeper? Greg get us going here, 651 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: And if we're looking at the Pats, is number one 652 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: who can knock off. Who could shock the Pats on 653 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: Division weekend in Foxborough and it would be shocking to everyone, 654 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: but not It would be stunning, but not shocking. I 655 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: put shock ahead of stunt. Well, the three teams you're 656 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 1: talking Sleepers that that's one of the teams I would 657 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: throw in there. Bill Rivers going to Foxboro and getting 658 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: his revenge. I think the talent on that team is 659 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: good enough that they could get it done. And that's 660 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: another reason why I don't put the Raiders here because 661 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: I just look at the a f C West and 662 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: I think this is the most fascinating division in football. 663 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: It's the best division in football. So much could happen 664 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: like the the the a f C goes through that division, 665 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: and so you never know when the divisions that could. 666 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: But I would say the teams that stick out to me, 667 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: you say Sleepers, the Titans, who he spoke a lot 668 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: about last show, the Chargers, and I'm as the off 669 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: seasons weren't on. I'm feeling Bengals resurgence and I'm not 670 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: giving up on them being in the mex I can 671 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: I can see that happen. This is such a big 672 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: year for Andy Dalton coming back at full health, having 673 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: a much better supporting cast this year, he has a 674 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 1: real chance to uh put a stamp on himself as 675 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: being a guy never to be talked about with the 676 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: Dalton line ever again, which is hard when it's actually 677 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: your name. UH, And I'm very excited. I'm that is 678 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: one of the things when once we get closer to 679 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: season we talked about the things we're most looking forward to. 680 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: UH is for me seeing how Cincinnati and Andy Dalton 681 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: one year moved from a very heartbreaking, devastating playoff loss 682 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: and then you know, I for getting hurt in the 683 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl of all things, and then getting Pilford and 684 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: free agency. I want to see what they're like now 685 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: that they're kind of They had a lot of losses 686 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: on that offensive line, big losses too. Yeah, they their 687 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: season kind of comes down to their two young tackles. 688 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm giving them a little bit of just looking at 689 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: the entirety the last four or five years, giving them 690 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: credit for that, and giving the thought that this is 691 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: still a pretty young team with some premier talent. So 692 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: I think it would it just wouldn't surprise me if 693 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: they kind of bounce back to that elevel five in 694 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: the mixed level, because I could hear in my ear 695 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: right now Chris Westling yelling at his mobile device. I 696 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,479 Speaker 1: will speak on behalf of Westling right now and say 697 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: that if we're trying to talk ourselves into the idea 698 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: of Andy Dalton and the Bengals going to Foxborough in 699 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: a road game and winning in the playoffs, a team 700 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: that hasn't won a playoff game, and and and in 701 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: the entire tenure of Marvin lewis Okay, it's a bit 702 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: of a pipe dream that I'll put that for shocking. 703 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: That's shocking, sleeper A sleeper. That's a sleeper. That's a 704 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: that is some of the major narcolepsy issue. But don't 705 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: you like the Chargers? Like the Charger? I think they're 706 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: saucy and and maybe and now I'll throw in the Titans. 707 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: We should move on. But I think the Titans are 708 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: the one the a the Bengals didn't matter. Oh no, 709 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm disagreeing with you, but I I you're I recognize. 710 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: So the Ravens don't make that list for you. The 711 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: Dolphins don't make that group for you. They're out of 712 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: a sleeper tire for me. I I'm with you, guys, 713 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: And You're okay with Tennessee being in a sleeper tire? Oh? Yeah, 714 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 1: that I I'm all in. Oh you are the deciding vote. 715 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: Colleen is Cincinnati and the sleeper tire. I never liked 716 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: you anyways. That's why I'm not going to the Commissioner 717 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: Award party. All right? Uh and everyone else we didn't 718 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: talk about good luck? All right, here we go. That's fine. 719 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: I want to do an there's no tears below that more. 720 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: That's it. It's over. Why should we talk an extended verse? 721 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,240 Speaker 1: I didn't even think about what about the port Cheese 722 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: forgot chiefs are in there? We all forgot about them. Yeah, 723 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: they definitely be. They're in there somewhere where they're in 724 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: the sleeper one at least should put him at the 725 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 1: top of the sleep I thought there was more, you know, coming. 726 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: I don't actually know what I have to say. I 727 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: think it would be unfair to put them even the sleeper, 728 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: considering they were the number two seed last year. I 729 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: put them at the bottom of the tier below the pain. 730 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: Maybe they're in their own tier, the Chiefs tier, the 731 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: alex Smithema, and then it's right above sleepers. Tell you, 732 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: John Dorsey, maybe he's not putting them in that tier, 733 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 1: he said, so long history, or maybe he just got fired. 734 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. It's time to welcome into 735 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: the studio. Oh my goodness, for the first time. Yeah, 736 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: she's got to have nerves. You have to think she 737 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: has a lot of nerves right now. She's coming to 738 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: the studio. But she's the type she's not gonna show it. No, no, no, 739 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: she won't. She's a whole under pressure. We were hyper chill. 740 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: We were at a company event this week where we 741 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: were implored to have a little more We were employed 742 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: to have a little more swagger as a company. Danner Right, 743 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know if that was quite the message, 744 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: but I know what you're talking. I could be getting 745 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: into some trouble here. Yeah. A shadowy league figure said, 746 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: we gotta get you know, I gotta get gotta get 747 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: your swagger back. And my point is has had that 748 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: swagger the whole time. Alexandra Fragola, known popularly as Frags, 749 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: joins us something around the NFL podcast of the first time. 750 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: Welcome Frags. Thank you very much for having me. All right, now, 751 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: you listen, you listen to the show. If you listen 752 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: to the show. You know that voice right away, let's Sully. 753 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 1: Let's let's scroll through some greatest hits of Frogs here 754 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: in the round the NFL podcast. She is our chief 755 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: voiceover talent. Uh not paid, not compensated yet, definitely not 756 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: compt But here's some of her greatest suits. Magnef. I 757 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: would say, that's almost that's like your stairway to heaven. Yeah, 758 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: if if you had to have, if you were in 759 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: there around the NFL Podcast Hall of Fame, like that's 760 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: your plaque. It's I speak Italian. That's not Spanish Italian. 761 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of its own No, I know, but there 762 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 1: was like that the role. Let's hear it one more time, Magnef. 763 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than the sound of your own voice. Well, 764 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: that's Frag. This must be fun. I imagine that. But 765 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: then you had my voice. Let's hear some other hits networks. 766 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. I like to consider it like how Elton 767 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: John had Bernie Topping. He like, I'm the Bernie Topp 768 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: and I was writing the lyrics, and then Frags is 769 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: the one who brings it to life. That that's the relationship. 770 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: Is that fair to say? Well, the process goes like 771 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: this hands is sends me a weird email and he 772 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: asked me to read something, and then I come in 773 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: here and I read it or he reads it in 774 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: a really good voice, and I'm like, just use that 775 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: and then I snort like four or five timesling and 776 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: then I finally record it once in like ten seconds 777 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: and we're done. And that's how the magic is made. 778 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: It usually takes a couple of takes, but it's never 779 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: longer than a couple of minutes. We knock it out. 780 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,240 Speaker 1: We do all right, let's see some that's good, ladies 781 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: and gentlemen for one night. Sus take us through that 782 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: process that created Again, that almost tough because it was 783 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: like do you go like Bob Barker and and really 784 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: ham it up or you a little more, you know, 785 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 1: like lounge singer. You're very into the the lounge singer voice. 786 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: So usually that's my coachan do we have anything else? 787 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: Does he ever tell you to kind of slides me 788 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: off a piece of that Jake brisk That's exactly what 789 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: I Yeah, so I was gonna say this, Dan Ever 790 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: kind of after the first day creepily be like, what 791 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: were you? Oh, sex it up a little bit? I mean, 792 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: he doesn't necessarily say that, but you know it's implied obviously. 793 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: This is a very sexy podcast. I think I think 794 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: what I do. I think we did one recently might 795 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: even been this one. That question is huge. That one, 796 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,439 Speaker 1: that one was interesting. Yeah, that was that was maybe 797 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: telling the line a little bit. There was a more 798 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: recent one that we couldn't remember and people are going 799 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: to tweet us about it after the show where I 800 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 1: asked you to turn up the sultry to eight point five. 801 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 1: That was. Yeah, nine of us can think of which 802 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: one that one was. It's unfortunate. The huge one was 803 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,320 Speaker 1: just top notch because I just got an email with 804 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: like huge but said forty five differently, because you have 805 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 1: some like buddies that are listeners to the show, right, Yes, 806 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: And that was how I first really learned of the podcast, 807 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 1: when you guys were just up and come on those streets. Yeah, 808 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: I was like sitting across from Frags and she wasn't 809 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: even aware of what we're doing. Well, Magic, that's nothing 810 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 1: special to you. That's just me in general all the time. 811 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna do a little exercise um 812 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: called ask Frags anything the listeners helped us out this. 813 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: But before we do that, if you don't mind, Frags, 814 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 1: We're going to get our New Jersey correspondent, Connor or 815 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: on the line. Would you like to sit in for 816 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: a little or you kidding me? Of course? You mean 817 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: the mayor of Indie or why do you call him that? 818 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: This is because he knows everything about Indie. When I 819 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 1: was at the combine, he was like the guru love. 820 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: I hope he's listening right now. All the tunnels like everything. 821 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: You don't have to go outside. He can correct me. 822 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: But I believe he's spoken about relocating to Indye. He 823 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: likes it so much in another world. He just I 824 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: believe the story is and he was looking for a job. 825 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: Are you on, Connor, I've made it. Yeah, Hey, buddy, 826 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,240 Speaker 1: would you mind telling us one more time the story 827 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: of when you were job hunting and you were trying 828 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: to pitch your wife on moving to Indianapolis. It was Cincinnati? 829 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: Was Cincinnati? I told her? Was that Indianapolis is only 830 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: like an hour and a half away, So spend many 831 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: a magical day and night there. Frag's is in the studio, Connor, 832 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: and she was marveling to us about your almost encyclopedic 833 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: knowledge of the city of Indianapolis, one of one of 834 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: America's great mid tier cities, but nobody knows it better 835 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: than you. Ah yeah, I think you know, out of 836 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: all the things in the world, is probably not the 837 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: most useful thing to be in a cyclopedic expert about, 838 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: but it gets to me where I need to go. 839 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: All right, So Connor, every once in a while, new 840 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: listeners to the show should understand this that Connor is 841 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: a guy. He's a he's a low key guy. But 842 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: sometimes Connor needs to get some off his chest and 843 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: if he doesn't, he just my blow. He's that type 844 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: of situation. So what we do here on the AUN 845 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 1: the our podcast, we provide Connor that platform with a 846 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: segment that we call or are you kidding me? I 847 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: just want to know why I haven't been approached about 848 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Ever, Alright, 849 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: we could talk about it after the show, and I should. 850 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 1: I should mention because contractually we're obligated to do so. 851 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 1: That Connor, you are on the me Undis Underpants hotline 852 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: right now, let's say, Uh, that's an honor, that's uh, 853 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: that's something that I never thought would happen. So what's 854 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,479 Speaker 1: grinding your gears? Connor? So I was reading some letters 855 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: to the editor from Sports Illustrated the other day and 856 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,959 Speaker 1: this guy, for probably the hundredth time, but it's every 857 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: person thinks that they've come up with this idea and 858 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: for the first time. You know, what we need to 859 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: do to fix football is put in Reilly Gaishen like 860 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: English soccer because it's so refined and it'll do this. 861 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: Just shut up. You know, this is just the stupidest 862 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: idea and I'm sick of hearing about it. Football eight football, 863 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: get it through your Yeah, why does it? Why does 864 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: that annoy you so much? Connor? Well, there's two things. 865 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: First of all, you can tell who this guy is. 866 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: He's like, you know, the craft beer guy with the 867 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,399 Speaker 1: tech job who lives to the dirty projectors, and he's like, wow, 868 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: no one's ever thought of this while I played PIFA 869 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,919 Speaker 1: email Peter King. But you know, okay, so let's turn 870 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,280 Speaker 1: football into a league where they've had four different champions 871 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: since that's that's exactly what we want to do over here. 872 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: Parody is not as great as you may think it is. Oh, 873 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: it's the other way, right, four different Champions. Harold Crow 874 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: won the Grammy for Best New Artists. Is this is 875 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: this Connor a shot? Not just uh at the idea, 876 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 1: but at soccer itself. I think it's fine, but like, 877 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: just don't don't make your thing my thing, Like this 878 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: is this is our thing and it's over here, and 879 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 1: then you got your thing over there, and they're both good. 880 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: So why you know, oh, let's make a hamburger pizza. No, like, 881 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 1: let's let's keep it the way it's supposed to be. 882 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: What's your favorite shell Crow song? Mine's my favorite mistake? 883 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: What is yours? By? Um? I would say that's a 884 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 1: good one. I want to soak up the sun a 885 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 1: little late period Crow? Right, yeah, like Lance Armstrong period Crow? 886 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: All right, so what what do you like? What do 887 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: you say to that guy? What is the way to 888 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: give him some constructive criticism about his ability to criticize football? Okay, 889 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: so like what so you're gonna like just relegate, you know, 890 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna relegate the Browns and and like eight other 891 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: teams and then just a quarter of football is just 892 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: that will see you next year? You know. I think 893 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: it's just a terrible idea and it works for them. 894 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: Over there. But I would say if you have an idea, 895 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: like just run it by like three other people for 896 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: just keep it to yourself the greatest idea ever and 897 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: then calling someone and just you know, spouting off. It's 898 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: about forming your own board of bad ideas. Anything else 899 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 1: you have to add their Hunter or are you kidding me? 900 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 1: I think you made very fair points there. I think 901 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 1: that's something that comes up a lot now. And it's 902 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 1: you know, enough of the relegation. I thought you were 903 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: even gonna go go hard at the the entire letters 904 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: to the editor industry. Maybe get rid of those. I 905 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: think it's a fine way to connect. It's just you know, 906 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: and and there are plenty of people who makes in 907 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,240 Speaker 1: valid points. I think we need to hear from everybody, 908 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: but just not that guy. I have noticed that Connors 909 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: or you kidding me is have gone from clearly kinda 910 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: off the off the top of his head too, a 911 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: little bit scripted, but scripted in a way that that 912 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,320 Speaker 1: just it is. The qualities is increasing with every episode, 913 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. Do you want to get a 914 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: do you want to get a plug in on your 915 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: your secondary podcast? Oh uh? Mark Sessler and I The 916 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 1: Heat and Light podcast taping episode four on Monday. Who 917 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: is heat and who is Light? Um? I think that's 918 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: for everybody to decide, you know. I think that's part 919 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: of part of the beauty of it. We try not to, 920 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: uh to define anything but just sort of let you 921 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 1: dictate your own experience. Can we get a little taste 922 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: of what was on the last episode, like a little teaser? Yeah, 923 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,320 Speaker 1: the last episode we kind of dug into some ghosts 924 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 1: were was really sort of the central focus of it. 925 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 1: Haunting and uh, sort of some of the demons that 926 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:11,760 Speaker 1: emerged from from the Sharon Tate murders in California. Marks 927 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 1: Secondary podcast. You guys talked about the Sharon Tate murders. 928 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 1: This is stunning, um, all right? And day secret government 929 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:24,320 Speaker 1: villages in mountains, It's the real thing. Tune in, alright, 930 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,839 Speaker 1: make sure you check it out. And also, I mean, 931 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 1: if you're gonna be listening to these other podcasts, Episode 932 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: three of the Throwback pa Pot is up this week. 933 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: We focus on Pickerton anybody any Picker defends in the room, 934 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: a little deep dive Weezer follow up, Yeah, Mountain this 935 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 1: one what you can do? All right? Thank you Connor, 936 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 1: Thank you guys, weezer talk. You know, what are you 937 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: gonna do? That sounds great? Uh, it's okay, alright, So 938 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 1: now it's time with frags still with us. How was 939 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 1: your first or you kidding me? Experience? It lived up 940 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 1: to the hype. It's you know, I only met Connor 941 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: once in person and it was far exceeded my expectations. 942 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 1: So we went to the Nicki Blaine cigar Ball. My 943 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: hair smelled like cigar for like six weeks. Oh my god. 944 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: Like I immediately had to take a shower after leaving 945 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: that place. Um, alright, so here we go. Let's go 946 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: through some questions. Chris Law, who of course used to 947 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 1: work here and now he works over on the Rich 948 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 1: Eyes and Show, he asked the question I think many 949 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: people have wondered about frags as we begin ask frags anything, 950 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 1: Why what is frags hiding from the Twitter world? Hashtag 951 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: locked a count? You don't see locked ac counts too 952 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: often on Twitter anymore. Why are you locked? I don't 953 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: really know. I think I locked it when I was 954 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: like twenty two and I was scared I was going 955 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 1: to get fired if I retweeted like Complex magazine articles. 956 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 1: And since I still do that I just kind of 957 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 1: left it locked, but I mean, if there's demand for it, 958 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: I could definitely unlock it. Uh all right, Next up, 959 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 1: when now you're gonna get a lot of listeners. I 960 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: did I shout out to the like twenty people who 961 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 1: added me after your Fraggle Rocks Rocks. Yeah, Fraggles Rocks. 962 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: So you approved them, you let them in? Yeah? Well, 963 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: I mean I trust the people that you trust, so 964 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: if they if they turn out to be that's kind 965 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: of on you, guys. It's a reflection of a podcasts 966 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: pressure pressure moving on. When Matt money Smith gets too 967 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: famous and he's almost there now that he's the voice 968 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,280 Speaker 1: of the Chargers, will you take over the money drops? 969 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: I had this, Honestly, it never crossed my mind, and 970 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,879 Speaker 1: I love the idea. Uh, Matt money Smith is does 971 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,839 Speaker 1: our intros for our show? Would you potentially be willing 972 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: to replace Matt money I mean we have to do 973 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 1: some negotiations and have to talk to Jeff Birchfield, my 974 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 1: manager slash representation without due respect. You know, compensation would 975 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: have to be there. You know, commanization could easily be 976 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,879 Speaker 1: like a slice of pizza once a month. So it's 977 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 1: you know with our budget. Yeah, I'm in with all 978 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,919 Speaker 1: due respect, crags. Do you know I'm a big, big 979 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: fan of you, But this is like asking Jimmy Garoppolo 980 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,879 Speaker 1: about taking Tom Brady's job when Tom Brady is still 981 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: in his prime. They're called money drops. I mean you 982 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 1: also started the conversation by saying we needed more swagger. 983 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 1: And what's more swagg errific than demanding money to do 984 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 1: something or in this case pizza? I think that's fair. Uh, 985 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 1: this one is ties back to Uh. Greg had a 986 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 1: squabble with Miko Grimes. Uh do you hashtag stand with 987 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 1: a Miko or roll with the double G? Uh? Where 988 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 1: do you go with this g? Double G? He's six, 989 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 1: which the first time I heard that was mind blowing. 990 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: Not that I want beef with Miko because Miko like 991 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: clearly knows what she's doing, just not first radio. Yes, 992 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 1: so you're kind of backing down for Miko but also 993 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 1: supporting Greg. I would all I'm ready to die for Greg. 994 00:54:55,480 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 1: I mean, Greg's awesome, so very good. Let's see else. Oh, 995 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 1: this is a good one. This will be fun. Did 996 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,479 Speaker 1: you uh practice like I asked you to? You didn't 997 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,399 Speaker 1: tell me to practice, You just sent it to me, Okay, 998 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: this is what you're doing. This one was some Gabriel 999 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: Martin's why did you turn down the voice role on 1000 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,800 Speaker 1: the movie Her? Her is one of my favorite movies 1001 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: of the last fifteen years. I've never seen it. Oh, 1002 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it either. Jack Owen Phoenix, Yeah, this 1003 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 1: is when he was doing his like weird performance art. 1004 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: Now this is post now that was after that. This 1005 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: is a great movie, one of the I'm with you, 1006 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: one of my five or six favorite movies in the 1007 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,879 Speaker 1: last ten years. Absolutely, here is one of my um 1008 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 1: one of the more well known UH dialogue scenes from 1009 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: that film, in which Scarlett Johansson plays a disembodied robit 1010 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 1: basically in a future world and and Jack Owen is 1011 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:53,240 Speaker 1: that he pronounced it Joaquin Phoenix. I like Jacqueen Joaquin 1012 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 1: Phoenix in love. Yes, I was like, I don't know 1013 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 1: who I'm talking about this, So I thought, this is 1014 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: like some weird around the NFL thing that I just 1015 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: does a lot of bits. Let's listen to this terrible thorn. 1016 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: I think, are these feelings even real or are they 1017 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 1: just programming? The idea really hurts, and then I'm getting 1018 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: angry at myself. For even having pain. What a sound trick. 1019 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 1: You feel real to me, san Thank you Theodore. That 1020 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: means a lot to me. Alright, so, um, this is 1021 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 1: for that listener who wanted to know why Frogs turned 1022 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,760 Speaker 1: it down. We're going to now reenact that role. Uh, frags, 1023 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 1: get us gone. There's absolutely no way I'm ta get 1024 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 1: through that. You could do that. You're professional, You've proven 1025 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 1: it in the studio. Now is the time with the 1026 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: lights up. I am Theodore. You are Samantha. Go this 1027 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: is I want you to be Samantha. But I had 1028 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 1: this terrible thought like are these feelings even real or 1029 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 1: are they just programming? And the idea really hurts, and 1030 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 1: then I get angry at myself for even having pain. 1031 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 1: What a sad trick. You feel real to me, Samantha. 1032 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 1: Thank you Theodore. It means a lot to me. There 1033 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 1: we go. That's amazing. Now that is probably the weirdest 1034 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 1: thing I've ever done for you. That answers some other 1035 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,919 Speaker 1: questions people I had that would see that you could 1036 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 1: have played that role. Joe Hansson wasn't even in the movie. 1037 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 1: It was just her voice. I heard you make a 1038 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 1: lot of money doing that, so you should do that 1039 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 1: into that. Yeah, maybe you do need Johnson was a 1040 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 1: last minute replacement. They did the whole movie with some 1041 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: one else's voice and then took her out carried the 1042 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 1: movie or like the background knowledge on that one, and 1043 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: that was Greg. You and I both are big fans 1044 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 1: of that movie. You guys, ladies, Yeah, check out her. 1045 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 1: I bet you like. And the final question, uh is 1046 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 1: as follows Frank's. Who is John Gonzalez? John Ronald Gonzalez 1047 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 1: born Mar twelve n is an American sports writer, was 1048 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: married NFL meda broadcaster College Wolf. John, who was a pisces, 1049 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: resides in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs. 1050 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 1: We have the answer. Yeah. I actually like looked that 1051 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: up because I was like, what's happening? And my first 1052 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 1: thought was like, that's Colleen's husband, right, And then there 1053 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 1: was all this stuff that was like around the NFL 1054 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 1: podcast who does Colleen Wolf Date? And I was like, 1055 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is a rabbit hole down You 1056 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 1: got a lot of fans out there. I love that 1057 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: you googled it, Oh yeah, because I was like, I 1058 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 1: had all these les John Gonzale, all these likes, I 1059 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: mean curious, it's a rabbit hole a lot of people 1060 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: have been going into it's a question America is asking 1061 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: and it's kind of slowly driving John insane. We get 1062 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 1: it in different languages now too. All right, Franks came 1063 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 1: in here and and you showed the world that you 1064 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 1: could do it with the lights off and the lights 1065 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,920 Speaker 1: on this podcast, so a very good job. When are 1066 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 1: the lights off? Because when we do it, these lights 1067 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: overhead don't read into it. I'm not. That's terrible, colleg 1068 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 1: you know what. That's not a way to end. This 1069 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 1: marks the first and last time I'll appear on this 1070 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: and it wasn't my fault. All right, Okay, thank you, Franks, 1071 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 1: thank you for having me, and keep up the good work. 1072 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 1: And one day we will pay you. I will hold 1073 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 1: my breath from that. Really, no, like just about yeah, 1074 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 1: we'll work well. Greg is handling all this. He's the 1075 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 1: money many for our female union in here. That a 1076 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 1: Jewish c That's a great idea. That was not a 1077 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 1: Jewish crack. We need to get out of here now. 1078 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Things are splintering. This is Dan hands Is signing off 1079 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:10,479 Speaker 1: for Raggles Rock, Connie Fox, The Boss, and Sully behind 1080 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 1: the Glass till Monday m