1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Brian Curtis and I'm Doug Prisner. Here 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: Officials in Kanters say that a short truce in the 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: war between Israel and Hamas will begin on Friday morning. 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: Let's get to Doug prisoner in New York with Global News. 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: Doug Brian at the beginning of this truth is it 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: actually a day later than initially expected. Hamas is set 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: to free fifty hostages, while Israel intends to release one 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty jailed Palestinians. All two hundred will be 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: women and children. Now, Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminette Yahoo was 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: saying he's still confident on freeing all of the roughly 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty people abducted by Hamas last month. 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's owner Aunt says the possibility of releasing more prisoners 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: is already part of the agreement. 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: That idea has already been built in to the current 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: truce agreement. So if after the release of fifty Israelis hostages, 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,319 Speaker 3: Hamas decides to release or agrees to releasing more for 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 3: ten hostages, it gets another day of extension to the 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: truth so that idea is also already there and obviously 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: it was one of the main driving forces when Katar 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 3: and others mediated the seal. 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: That is Bloomberg's owner Aunt. We go to the Netherlands, 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: where politics is shifting to the far right. Populist Girt 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: Wilders have won a huge election victory. Now he is 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: in line to lead talks in the formation of a 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: coalition government and the possibility of becoming the next Prime minister. 27 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: Wilders as champion policies against immigration and Islam. Meantime, the 28 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: most valuable company in the Netherlands ASML is calling for 29 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: a reliable government and a consistent long term policy to 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: ensure an attractive business climate. ASML said, the availability of 31 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: Dutch talent is not sufficient to meet current demand, and 32 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: any restrictions on the amount of knowledge workers or international 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: students relative or relevant, I should say for the tech 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: industry is undesirable. New York City Mayor Eric Adams is 35 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: being accused of sexually assaulting a woman back in nineteen 36 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: ninety three. A legal summons filed Wednesday is listing the 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: defendants as Adams, the NYPDS Transit Bureau, and the department's 38 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: Guardians Association. Adams was a police captain when the alleged 39 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: assault took place. Speaking to reporters earlier today, the mayor 40 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: said he's never met the woman who made the claim. 41 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 4: It's absolutely not true, you know, I would, I would 42 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 4: never do anything to harm anyone. My career speaks for itself, 43 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 4: and just really is something absolutely that has never happened in. 44 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: That is a New York City Mayor Eric Adams. Now, 45 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: the summons was filed under the New York Adult Survivors Act, 46 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: if temporarily suspended the statute of limitations for sexual assault cases. Now, 47 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: the accusation does come during the FBI's investigation into the 48 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: mayor's twenty twenty one campaign financing. The World Health Organization 49 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: is asking China for detailed information about a surge in 50 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: respiratory illnesses among children, including pneumonia. Top pediatric medical centers 51 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: across China are being overwhelmed with patients. The resurgence comes 52 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: as China heads into its first winter after easing COVID restrictions, 53 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: and it appears children have been particularly hard hit. Global 54 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: news twenty four hours a day and whenever you wanted 55 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: with Bloomberg News. Now, I'm Doug Prisner in New York. 56 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: Brian Curtis and Paul Allen. Let's take a look at 57 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: some of the top business stories now of the hour. 58 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: Barklay's is said to be planning one point three billion 59 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: dollars in cost cutting over the next several years. Bloomberg 60 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: Sarah Livesey has details. 61 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 5: Reuter's reports as many as two thousand jobs are on 62 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 5: the line. That's about two percent of the bank's workforce. 63 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 5: Any job cuts are expected to come from Barclay's Execution Services, 64 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 5: the unit that encompasses the group's back office. However, the 65 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: lender could prioritize layoffs in other areas as well. Blays 66 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 5: said it will provide an update alongside four year results 67 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 5: in February. The bank's latest quarterly results were disappointing, prompting 68 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 5: a slide in its stock price. So far this year, 69 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 5: Barclay's shares are down eleven and a half percent in 70 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 5: New York. I'm Sarah Livesey Bloomberg Radio. 71 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 6: Germany will suspend the constitutional limits on new borrowing for 72 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 6: a fourth consecutive year. This comes after Chancellor Left Schulz's 73 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 6: government was forced into a radical budget overhaul by a 74 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 6: ruling last week from the nation's top court. We've got 75 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 6: more from Bloomberg's Zoe Schenevis Kristin Linnet. 76 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 7: The Finance Minister is a fiscal hawk, and he had 77 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 7: said in twenty twenty three we're going back to the 78 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 7: death break now that all would have been fine if 79 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 7: it hadn't been that the way Germany was spending that 80 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 7: money wasn't a way that was outside of the normal budget. 81 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 7: That Constitutional court decision last week said that is not okay. 82 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 7: That's that you can't function like this. It's unconstitutional. So 83 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 7: that means that they've spent all this money for twenty 84 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 7: twenty three and it's late November at this stage, you 85 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 7: can't get that money back in any other way. 86 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 6: It's Bloomberg's Zoe shanews. The emergency move to lift the 87 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 6: so called debt break will be part of a revised 88 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 6: twenty twenty three budget that will be presented next week. 89 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 6: Brian Well. 90 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: Chinese regulators are eyeing unprecedented aid to developers to ease 91 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: the property crisis. Bloomberg's David and Glace has more from 92 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: Hong Kong we Here. 93 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 8: China may allow banks to offer unsecured short term loans 94 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 8: to qualified developers for the first time. These so called 95 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 8: working capital loans would offer funds for day to day operations. 96 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 8: The loans are different from other types of debt that 97 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 8: require land or assets as collateral. Earlier, we reported that 98 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 8: authorities are finalizing this list of developers eligible for that aid. 99 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 8: Sources say the list includes Country Garden and Sino Ocean Group. 100 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 8: Country Garden shares jump twenty four percent yesterday on word 101 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 8: that it was included in that list. In Hong Kong, 102 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 8: I'm David ingless. 103 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 6: Bloomberg Radio Openaie reinstated CEO Sam Altman this week after 104 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 6: hunters of workers threatened to quit over the chet GPT 105 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 6: creator's ouster. The move highlights just how much leverage the 106 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 6: tech industry's most valued workers hold right now. With more 107 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 6: on just how much they're valued is Bloomberg's Charlie Palette. 108 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 9: The most common salary range for an engineering job listed 109 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 9: on OpenAI's website is between two hundred thousand and three 110 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 9: hundred seventy thousand dollars, and Roger Lee, co founder of 111 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 9: compensation benchmarking firm Comprehensive dot Io, says a handful of 112 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 9: more specialized roles advertised ranges between three hundred thousand and 113 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 9: four hundred and fifty thousand dollars and according to levels 114 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 9: dot Fyi salary ranges do not include bonuses or stock awards, 115 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 9: which can bring an annual salary of three hundred thousand 116 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 9: dollars closer to eight hundred thousand dollars in total compensation. 117 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 9: In New York, Charlie Pellet Bloomberg Radio. 118 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: Well we've reached the unofficial start of the holiday shopping season. 119 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Nancy Lyons has a preview of what we can 120 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: expect on the retail front. 121 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 10: The National Retail Federation expects holiday spending in November and 122 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 10: December to grow three to four percent compared to the 123 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 10: same time last year. 124 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 7: J C. 125 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 10: Penny CEO Mark Rosen says consumers are spending more, but 126 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 10: they're doing it wisely. 127 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 11: I think what you are going to see is that 128 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 11: consumers are much more focused on value than they've ever 129 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 11: been before, and we're seeing that in shopping behavior this year. 130 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 10: JC Penny CEO Mark Rosen, speaking on Bloomberg Television. The 131 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 10: National Retail Federation estimates a record one hundred and eighty 132 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 10: two million people plan to shop in store and online 133 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 10: from Thanksgiving Day through Cyber Monday. I'm Nancy Lyons Bloomberg Radio. 134 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: Joining us live on the show is Barbara and Bernard, 135 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: founder and CIO of Windcrest Capital, for a look at market. Sappy, thanksgiving, Barbara, 136 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: and thanks for joining us. Well, we have a number 137 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: of stories, as you probably heard there across the terminal 138 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: this morning, looking at central banks, particularly in Asia, looking 139 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: at starting to cut interest rates next year. Will the 140 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: Fed join that party in the first half? 141 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 11: Well's certainly what the markets are pricing in, right and 142 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 11: you know, the US market is pretty euphoric right now 143 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 11: in anticipation of that. And I would just like to 144 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 11: caution that if central banks are cutting rates, it's because 145 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 11: inflation has fallen, and that's because demand has and that 146 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 11: also means unemployment goes up, which hurts corporate profitability. So 147 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 11: being giddy that we're getting lower rates and being and 148 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 11: forgetting to be mindful of lower earnings seems it seems 149 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 11: a bit foolhardy to me. And so I think, I 150 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 11: see I want to be cautious here and not joining 151 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 11: the momentum trade. 152 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 6: Wow, does that mean bad news? Actually means bad news? 153 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 11: I think you have lower growth globally, right, and that's 154 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 11: the whole point of raising rates was exactly that, and 155 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 11: you're seeing it come through in earnings. You know, their 156 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 11: long and variable lags. You look at a company like 157 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 11: Deer who reported this week, and that's a stock that 158 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 11: stay on this year, and they cited a weaker outlook 159 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 11: on the back of lower crop prices, right, and higher 160 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 11: interest rates impacting demand for tractors. And that's what you 161 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 11: would expect out of this environment. And so if the 162 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 11: lags when we raised rates were long and variable, they 163 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 11: will be when we cut rates too. So I think, 164 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 11: you know, getting overly excited too soon and assuming that 165 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 11: we'll just land this plane perfectly is really giving the 166 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 11: FED a lot of credit. 167 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: You mentioned a little bit of euphoria in equity markets. 168 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 2: If you look back over two years, though the S 169 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: and P five hundred, and really most stocks in the 170 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: S and P five hundred are actually lower than where 171 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: they were at the end of twenty twenty one. So 172 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: the euphoria, I suppose, is just here of late, but 173 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: not necessarily if you take it back during that entire period. 174 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 11: I think it's an excellent point. You are absolutely right, 175 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 11: since the index is no higher than it was at 176 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 11: the end of twenty twenty one, it's been within this 177 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 11: range of thirty five hundred to forty eight hundred, and 178 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 11: it's been a trader's market as opposed to a long 179 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 11: term value investors market right where you buy a compounder. 180 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 11: And what's done well is the megacaps, So an equally 181 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 11: weighted index you know has not done anywhere near as 182 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 11: well as as as the you know s and P 183 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 11: five hundred the more concentrated and diseased this year, and 184 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 11: that's a function that you're seeing globally. Small caps are 185 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 11: trading at a discount to large caps, and the US 186 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 11: small caps trade for eight point one times ev day, 187 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 11: Badawar's large caps are at thirteen point six times, and 188 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 11: you're similar eight versus eleven, Japan six point eight versus ten. 189 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 11: So what's happening is these big companies and these big 190 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 11: indue keep getting bigger, and where you're finding more value 191 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 11: is in these smaller cap companies that get forgotten and 192 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 11: an orphaned if you will. But then you have to 193 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 11: ask if what drives valuation these days as fun flows, 194 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 11: what finds them? So it's a super tricky time. 195 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 6: At the same time, though we do have really high rates, 196 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,479 Speaker 6: is it just appealing to stay in cash and fixed. 197 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 11: Income against formidable headwinds. That's never a bad idea, right 198 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 11: I would have some cash here. I like a five 199 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 11: percent risk free rate. I also like private credit where 200 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 11: I can, you know, develop infrastructure projects with twenty year 201 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 11: PPAs where I don't have to worry about growth rates 202 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 11: and interest rates next year. And so I think people 203 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 11: are getting creative. And you know, if you want the index, 204 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 11: great by it. But if you want alpha, you're gonna 205 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 11: have to do something different, and that's either you know, 206 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 11: fallen angel stocks or creating alpha via private credit. 207 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: In my personal experience, private credit, by its very nature 208 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: obviously is private. It's more difficult to access. I suppose 209 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: for the average investor, can you give them a couple 210 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: of ways to play that. 211 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 11: Well? In my case, I went and took a stake 212 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 11: in a project developer so that I could develop my 213 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 11: own projects. And what I like about this is I 214 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 11: have more control over the outcome. And it's a really 215 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 11: interesting arbitrage right now because you're talking about a higher 216 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 11: rate environment. And the other thing that's emblematic of this 217 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 11: time right now is people are saying it's really hard 218 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 11: to raise equity it's not if you have a project 219 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 11: that's in demand. If you have a grain hydrogen project 220 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 11: that is a double digit IRR for an investor. There 221 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 11: are tons of large infrastructure funds who have raised capital 222 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 11: looking for projects like that, and equally on the debt side, 223 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 11: and these project perry up to eighty percent debt. There 224 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 11: are a lot of banks that have allocated funds towards 225 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 11: green product Jackson. They find can't find great ones to 226 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 11: invest in. So if you can get concessionary debt rates 227 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 11: in a higher rate environment, that's an arbitrage that'll take 228 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 11: all day long. And and I just this is you know, 229 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 11: you have to get creative. There's always something to do, 230 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 11: but it's typically not what the rest of the market 231 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 11: is doing. 232 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 2: Barbara, and I just wanted to ask you kind of 233 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 2: a quick follow. We've seen M and A and IPO 234 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: activity be rather more of it this year. Do you 235 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: expect yeah, opportunities coming next year. 236 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 11: I certainly hope. So. I have a number of pre 237 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 11: IPO opportunities that have not come to market this year. 238 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 11: And you know, the sign of a healthy capital market 239 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 11: is a healthy IPO market. And you know, if you 240 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 11: say market has done so well, in the rally, Well, 241 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 11: why all these companies afraid to come to market? So 242 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 11: I personally would come to market if I were them, 243 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 11: And so I am hopeful for everyone in our industry 244 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 11: that we will see a resurgence of IPO activity into 245 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 11: twenty twenty four. 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