Speaker 1: What's up step service time manager?
Speaker 2: Like, yee, I'm Jazzmine Brand, I'm Kim.
Speaker 3: Osorio, I'm Lisa Am, I'm Kaya.
Speaker 1: Okay. I like that. That was smooth. But welcome back,
Speaker 1: Lisa Ann.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me back.
Speaker 4: It's been a minute, I know, but you're a fan
Speaker 4: favorite and you're one of our favorites too. Thank you,
Speaker 4: and Kaya, we pop in your cherry today.
Speaker 1: Yeah sounds good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4: So let's get into well, let's talk with you Kaya,
Speaker 4: and of course Kim Osorio is here guest hosting.
Speaker 1: Jazmine Brand is here.
Speaker 4: I would I like to call them and you too, Lisa,
Speaker 4: and the three of you guys are like media moguls.
Speaker 4: I would say, just from the experiences that you guys
Speaker 4: have all had in the business. Me and Kim have
Speaker 4: known each other for dannar thirty years. I want to say, that's.
Speaker 2: Scary, and you're only thirty five.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was fine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess special.
Speaker 4: No, but we've known each other forever and came up
Speaker 4: in this business together. Former editor in chief of The Source.
Speaker 4: I always like to say that. But TV doc and
Speaker 4: now so you've seen a lot of her shows on
Speaker 4: we TV on BT on v H one. What are
Speaker 4: the networks I forgot okay.
Speaker 6: Plus B plus we love to see it.
Speaker 4: And Jasmine of course owns the Jasmine brand. And Lisa
Speaker 4: and you have your podcast now too on Sirius XM.
Speaker 3: So comedy show is on Sirius XM. Better Haves. My
Speaker 3: podcast is still self produced, and I recently partnered with
Speaker 3: a winery in Sicily to bring wine from Ciccily.
Speaker 1: She don't play.
Speaker 2: Okay, you need to leave a little earlier, and you
Speaker 2: need to we should.
Speaker 1: We should have ordered the wine in advance.
Speaker 4: We coah, but you know what, we'll order it for
Speaker 4: the next episode even if you're not here.
Speaker 3: We'll shut it down to you guys once we get more.
Speaker 1: And That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 4: And Kaya, this is your first time, so let's get
Speaker 4: into everything that you have going on.
Speaker 1: Because my boy Amir hit me up and he was like,
Speaker 1: y'all need to get Kaya.
Speaker 4: And before you came up here, now there was a
Speaker 4: group of guys up here and they were like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, you have a legend coming up and a
Speaker 4: future legend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay, listen.
Speaker 5: You know I've been doing only fans.
Speaker 7: Okay, probably four years now, going on five, and I've
Speaker 7: been a top creator damn near since I began, and
Speaker 7: I've just kind of like, you know, conquered the platform
Speaker 7: in a way, you know, and I'm just trying to
Speaker 7: figure out what's what's next, what's more, what else is there?
Speaker 1: You know, only fans is addictive tale.
Speaker 4: I saw her talking about how she was about to
Speaker 4: lose her house and she went out only fans and
Speaker 4: paid her whole entire.
Speaker 1: Immediately, immediately, immediately. You know how amazing that is.
Speaker 3: It's incredible, especially for somebody that we've all loved for
Speaker 3: so many years and watched her in the Sopranos, And
Speaker 3: it's not easy to get more work in Hollywood. She's
Speaker 3: had some smaller projects, but it's fantastic to see someone
Speaker 3: be able to step in and utilize the platform like that.
Speaker 1: So many people have. I feel like, so for you
Speaker 1: to do, what to do?
Speaker 4: Don't ever be like, you know, no, honestly, because even
Speaker 4: brandon yourself to be one of the Tap creators, that's
Speaker 4: not an easy thing to do because there are a
Speaker 4: lot of people on there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, I want to move on.
Speaker 7: To Okay, to just other things, and it wasn't like, oh,
Speaker 7: I want to be this porn star type.
Speaker 5: Of thing, you know, Like.
Speaker 7: I was literally I had twenty five dollars to my name,
Speaker 7: twenty five dollars to my name, and I had a son,
Speaker 7: a newborn baby, and he required special formula.
Speaker 5: Soy formula, you know he was.
Speaker 7: It was just it was a lot, and his father
Speaker 7: wasn't really involved. Ok and so had I had to
Speaker 7: make a way. I had to find a way, and
Speaker 7: it just worked out for the best.
Speaker 1: When did you realize that was an option for you?
Speaker 7: I started at fifteen, when I was fifteen years old.
Speaker 7: You guys remember Vine?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so love Vine? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Literally I hate it in a way in all my
Speaker 4: videos I got because I had some amazing but it
Speaker 4: was a thing.
Speaker 5: It really was.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: After that, I didn't trust none of these platforms.
Speaker 5: I don't want to. You're like, they're trying to steal.
Speaker 3: But you also back up on your content. Now, after
Speaker 3: you lose everything on a platform, You're like, I'm not
Speaker 3: doing that right on that. I will back it up
Speaker 3: to my phone to make sure I have it close away,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm tired of learning these new platforms. Okay, so
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 2: So back to fifteen Vine.
Speaker 7: So I was fifteen and I had these millions of
Speaker 7: followers and I'm like, huh, like you know, and I'm just,
Speaker 7: you know, I'm just.
Speaker 9: I'm just tworking in a pool and between I wasking
Speaker 9: that sounds like perverts, by the way, yeah for sure
Speaker 9: if they're following you at fifteen, they were go ahead, okay,
Speaker 9: you guys.
Speaker 5: No we know, yeah, we can, we know at fifteen.
Speaker 1: Honestly, that's scary.
Speaker 5: To me, guy league NBOB.
Speaker 3: Average kid is now accessing adult content between ten and eleven.
Speaker 3: And though the one great thing about OnlyFans is actually
Speaker 3: that is harder for a minor to log.
Speaker 1: In because they got to have a credit.
Speaker 3: They do, but you know, if young kids are accessing
Speaker 3: it that young, then yeah, fifteen is almost older to
Speaker 3: be twirking in a pool on Vine.
Speaker 5: Yeah this was ten years ago, right ten years ago.
Speaker 7: I started on Vine and had all these different people
Speaker 7: messaging me and trying to figure out who I was
Speaker 7: and trying to meet me and all these other, you know,
Speaker 7: different types of things, and I was just like, I'm
Speaker 7: not of age. I let them know, you know, from
Speaker 7: the gate, I wasn't of age. But once Instagram came out,
Speaker 7: you know, they had the fifteen second videos they first.
Speaker 5: Dropped and everything.
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, once Instagram dropped, you know, I post did
Speaker 7: a longer vine, you know, and I blew up on Instagram.
Speaker 1: How were you at that time?
Speaker 5: Probably sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 2: Okay, what was the video that popped on Instagram?
Speaker 5: I had these American flag leggings on.
Speaker 7: You guys, remember when all these different leggings were out
Speaker 7: or they had like.
Speaker 5: Different logos and stuff.
Speaker 1: They look I still have some too.
Speaker 5: Today you look at.
Speaker 7: It and you're like, oh, that looks so cheap, and
Speaker 7: you're like, why did I wear that? But back in
Speaker 7: the day, that was the ship I hadn't ye, I
Speaker 7: needed that.
Speaker 1: I'm moving. I need to throw these away.
Speaker 10: Because I feel like I could work out of them.
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, but okay, they'll come back and STU.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I had these American le leggings on, and
Speaker 7: you know, I just I was I did a little
Speaker 7: quick little you know, Shimi Shimi.
Speaker 5: I think it was at the time.
Speaker 7: I was moving from South Carolina and I was cool
Speaker 7: with Speaker Knockers. If you guys don't know who that is,
Speaker 7: he's kind of a big artist. Like even till this day,
Speaker 7: they still play like his song, you know, sometimes here
Speaker 7: and there, and I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 5: He's gone, like you know, he died. But I talked
Speaker 5: to his song and it went up.
Speaker 7: And I have all these people in my dms and everything,
Speaker 7: and I was just getting all this different exposure at
Speaker 7: such a young age.
Speaker 1: And did your parents know you were doing this?
Speaker 5: My mom found out I talked in the pool at
Speaker 5: fifteen years old. We were living in like this.
Speaker 7: Kind of like a mansion when I was like fifteen, like,
Speaker 7: and we had like this nice ass pool and nice
Speaker 7: hot tub.
Speaker 5: I decided to get in there.
Speaker 7: My cousin decided, you know, to record me when I
Speaker 7: was doing a little twerk and she posted it and
Speaker 7: I was like, oh my god, like this is crazy,
Speaker 7: Like people are really like feeding into this, you know,
Speaker 7: and I decided to capitalize off of it, you get
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. So after a while it just became
Speaker 7: kind of normal. But I wasn't making money off of it, Okay,
Speaker 7: I was just I was just posting just to be seen,
Speaker 7: do you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Plus you were only fifteen, you probably were And
Speaker 4: also you were under age.
Speaker 1: How do you monetize from you're fifteen?
Speaker 5: You know exactly.
Speaker 7: I didn't have management, I didn't have an assistant, I
Speaker 7: didn't have any of these things.
Speaker 1: Kind of illegal to mine size it might have been,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Because it also just seems so wrong, like what, who
Speaker 4: are these people looking at a fifteen year old?
Speaker 1: Isn't that considered child pornography? Like, well, it's not.
Speaker 7: It's not because I wasn't naked, but I but I
Speaker 7: was doing it's a little performance activity in a way.
Speaker 3: Right, you were putting that out there in a way
Speaker 3: that was not eighteen under right, Right.
Speaker 7: So it was just all these different people from different
Speaker 7: parts of the world, and they've successful people like guys,
Speaker 7: no people literally famous people who I'm like, why would
Speaker 7: they be messaging me? You know, like and but I'm
Speaker 7: throwing ass on the internet at fifteen years old?
Speaker 1: Crazy, Say what do you think about that?
Speaker 3: It's not that abnormal now, you know, we see a
Speaker 3: ton of girls the second they turned eighteen. Uh, they're
Speaker 3: logging in, you know, they're baking.
Speaker 4: For an example, baby eighteen, she weary, for an example,
Speaker 4: bought a house.
Speaker 3: So if you've already been in that baby and look
Speaker 3: mentally now, you know, I just did a speaking engagement
Speaker 3: at Temple and I spoke in front of a bunch
Speaker 3: of students frend this Peorign literacy class gender ideology, And
Speaker 3: what I learned was I didn't grow up with the internet.
Speaker 3: So when I was ten and eleven, you either got
Speaker 3: a basketball or a foot Well, you were really gonna
Speaker 3: play catch with your neighbors or you're gonna go play
Speaker 3: basketball with your brother these like this is what we
Speaker 3: were doing. And I realized that the mind shifts so
Speaker 3: much when at ten and eleven you're seeing adult content,
Speaker 3: you're seeing Instagram. They just leapfrogged over that growing up stage.
Speaker 3: Like you know what, I'm almost made me sad because
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my gosh, the stuff that we did
Speaker 3: that didn't matter. You could just take walks with your
Speaker 3: friends when you were young teenagers because your parents would
Speaker 3: let you do that. And maybe you'd sneak cigarettes like
Speaker 3: that was that easy as we got, and you'd spritch
Speaker 3: your hair cheap perfume. But like so it's not that abnormal.
Speaker 3: It's actually very common for someone especially as beautiful as
Speaker 3: she is. I'm sure when you were fifteen you didn't
Speaker 3: look like a fifteen year old fifty year out like
Speaker 3: fifteen year olds like they did. When I was a kid.
Speaker 3: We didn't wear make up yet, I had fucked up teeth,
Speaker 3: I had fucking mouthguard braces, all the fucking hideous. But
Speaker 3: now and also they're dressing provocative younger, like, it's a
Speaker 3: whole different world.
Speaker 5: There are hormones in the food.
Speaker 3: Yep, they're seeing boobs like mine to school where they
Speaker 3: measured your shorts and if they were above four inches,
Speaker 3: they sent you home. Your parents had to come.
Speaker 5: Pick you up. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And even the stuff that you get to see on
Speaker 4: television before back in the day, like you couldn't just
Speaker 4: see you had to have skinemax.
Speaker 3: You you know, I remember doing skinny movies. You loved
Speaker 3: doing that. Yes, they were all written so poorly, they
Speaker 3: were so cheesy, but they were so fun because you
Speaker 3: got good money for them. They had craft services. We'd
Speaker 3: hang out on settle Okay, they were such freaks about
Speaker 3: what we were. They would hire adult stars a lot
Speaker 3: of times to do them. But they wouldn't let you
Speaker 3: walk in front of them nude because they were sag.
Speaker 3: So you had like have like this patch taped onto
Speaker 3: your hair and covery of a jay jeake all that.
Speaker 3: We were all like, what's so weird you also and
Speaker 3: then the blank stood up or maybe a bathing soup
Speaker 3: bottom like it was, and you're still grinding with this guy.
Speaker 3: It was almost weirder.
Speaker 11: But I feel like that skin Max was for women,
Speaker 11: right like it was a story, yeah, and you could
Speaker 11: get into it, whereas like porn was for the men.
Speaker 11: That's how I felt, right like back then shirt and
Speaker 11: the access to porn. I feel like when I came up,
Speaker 11: it was hard. You couldn't just watch actual v. It
Speaker 11: was like a thing that you would do the house
Speaker 11: with your friends.
Speaker 6: Yees now discover every seven how.
Speaker 7: The internet and my cousin were playing hide and seek
Speaker 7: and you found some important takes.
Speaker 5: Under the bed.
Speaker 7: I decided to hide under the bed and there was
Speaker 7: a there was a whole bunch of just different little tapes,
Speaker 7: and me and my cousin were.
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, there's boobs, there's there's a vagina.
Speaker 1: So they had the actual real covers on there.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Parents would take those covers out and put and just
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 7: My uncle was actually like probably sixteen seventeen living in
Speaker 7: my grandmo's grandmother's house, and so like we were playing
Speaker 7: hiding hide and seek.
Speaker 5: I decided to hide the bed. I found it. I
Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, cousin like, do you see this?
Speaker 5: Like let's watch this, you know, and so we decided
Speaker 5: to put it in the DVD player. We watched it.
Speaker 5: My whole life changed. I was corrupted.
Speaker 3: You think, so you.
Speaker 1: Think porn corrupted? Like watching that at said to the
Speaker 1: early age.
Speaker 5: It definitely does.
Speaker 7: It definitely does like it exposes you to things that
Speaker 7: you've never.
Speaker 3: It changes a part of the brain that has not
Speaker 3: been opened yet. It really is a real Pandora's box
Speaker 3: theory where once these images are shown, then there's this
Speaker 3: curiosity that's now peaked, right, and now it's looking at
Speaker 3: other things very differently. Where if you didn't see that
Speaker 3: for another ten years, right like when I was growing up,
Speaker 3: you wouldn't even have those.
Speaker 1: Thoughts, you know what I mean? When's the first time
Speaker 1: you seen porn?
Speaker 5: Kim?
Speaker 11: I feel like I was a teenager thirteen fourteen, and
Speaker 11: it was like a slumber party and someone was like,
Speaker 11: we're gonna watch a porn tonight, right right, Like it was.
Speaker 7: A kind of wish like my uterie was preserved in
Speaker 7: a way, you know, because that's like I wish I
Speaker 7: would have seen it the first time when I was
Speaker 7: a teenage, first.
Speaker 3: Till I was eighteen, and the only thing we did
Speaker 3: get a sneak a peek of was in my dad's
Speaker 3: cedar closet. He had some magazines, but back in that day,
Speaker 3: the magazines they didn't spread legs. The women have big
Speaker 3: bushes ate seventies, late sixties, early seventies, and so it
Speaker 3: was like you'd look at them and you'd be so
Speaker 3: worried about stacking up in the exact order.
Speaker 5: That you found them in.
Speaker 3: Like it was more fun just touching them and then
Speaker 3: putting them back and not getting caught in anything. But
Speaker 3: it wasn't until I started working at a club and
Speaker 3: they had porn stars coming in every week, and I
Speaker 3: would get a VHS from each girl, and then I'd
Speaker 3: go home and I'd just watch it like I was
Speaker 3: watching tape, you know, like because I knew that this
Speaker 3: is where I was going to take my life, so
Speaker 3: I would just study it for two years.
Speaker 1: You knew that, like I said, So I knew.
Speaker 3: Because I started dancing, and when I started dancing. I
Speaker 3: realized the real money and the real opportunity was to
Speaker 3: brand yourself and go out on the road feature dancing.
Speaker 3: I also learned very early that it's hard to be
Speaker 3: a local housegirl, a girl that works at the same
Speaker 3: club every week, because you almost have to build these
Speaker 3: relationships with people. And I was never good at that.
Speaker 3: I was never good at the lying. You know, I'm
Speaker 3: building this fake like I really like you. I don't.
Speaker 3: That's like lie. I'm very manipulative, and I wouldn't buy
Speaker 3: with it. But the features, they were just popular and
Speaker 3: they get to bounce into a club for a week
Speaker 3: or a weekend and lead back and they come and go,
Speaker 3: and they are a limited time offer and they're getting
Speaker 3: their flights paid. And I was like, I could see
Speaker 3: the world and they were doing cool shit. So I
Speaker 3: took two years and I interviewed every feature at El's
Speaker 3: that would talk to me. Some of them would not
Speaker 3: talk to me, some of them just don't. And I
Speaker 3: learned once I went on the road how annoying.
Speaker 5: That could be every week.
Speaker 3: But I had a notebook, and I had all these
Speaker 3: really important questions of things that I didn't and didn't
Speaker 3: want to do from watching these movies and not being
Speaker 3: as sexually experienced as you would think one would be.
Speaker 3: I was a curious teenager and had sex in high school,
Speaker 3: but I wasn't like they were right, and I clearly
Speaker 3: saw things in those movies that I knew I would
Speaker 3: not ready.
Speaker 1: For right oh shit, right now.
Speaker 4: And both of you are beautiful women to be in
Speaker 4: the space like doing you know what, like you said,
Speaker 4: but you're trying to.
Speaker 1: Move out of this space.
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, okay.
Speaker 1: So what do you think is what where do you
Speaker 1: see yourself going?
Speaker 5: I don't want to be movies.
Speaker 1: Lisa Ann is a perfect person for you to be
Speaker 1: on here with today because I feel like Lisa Ann
Speaker 1: has done such an amazing job of you know, doing
Speaker 1: what you did but.
Speaker 4: Then but people know that, but also just being really
Speaker 4: intelligent and being able to move into the space of
Speaker 4: like sports broadcasting and having your own podcast and producing.
Speaker 4: I think that you can still you know, be proud
Speaker 4: of who you are and what you've done, but then
Speaker 4: also still do more.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I feel like if you can successfully do a gang bang,
Speaker 3: you can do anything as well. If they put on
Speaker 3: resumes successful at multiple gang.
Speaker 7: Banks, did you have to mentally prepare yourself for that.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it. I was.
Speaker 1: What did you enjoy?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 5: What part did.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed the fact that I could live out of
Speaker 3: fantasy on set in a safe place that I was
Speaker 3: too afraid to do at home. So this day, I'm
Speaker 3: afraid to bring a random guy into my space. What
Speaker 3: if he gets creepy and it shows up unannounced? What
Speaker 3: if he gets weird like? And what if I don't
Speaker 3: like him? And I got to get him out of
Speaker 3: my apartment? Like all these thoughts, I got to like
Speaker 3: do things, and also I got to do it with
Speaker 3: men that if something awkward happened, they weren't going to
Speaker 3: go tell their friends. This is their business. And it
Speaker 3: happened to a girl as set and they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: we've seen it all and they're attentive. So it was
Speaker 3: a great like I grew. I went into that business
Speaker 3: broken as fuck and came out hole you felt for you, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I felt empowered. I took control of my financial future,
Speaker 3: which was a big goal of mine. Traveled all these
Speaker 3: different countries. I learned about human nature. I understand why
Speaker 3: people watch porn on all levels, and I understand that
Speaker 3: there's nothing abnormal about it, as long as you're not
Speaker 3: watching like five six hours.
Speaker 4: I do say it's huge industry. There's no way that
Speaker 4: anybody can act like there's you know, it is a
Speaker 4: huge and it's never going anywhere. And during the pandemic
Speaker 4: it was one of the things.
Speaker 1: That really thrived and that was my god. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: not a lot.
Speaker 5: Like the money I made during the But the only.
Speaker 4: Reason is probably because I'm so busy, Like I think
Speaker 4: it's something that it's a.
Speaker 3: Great it's a great couple things. It's a great things
Speaker 3: like once in a while with your guy, like and
Speaker 3: try to rooms and overpay for it. For some reason
Speaker 3: why I want to go back.
Speaker 1: To this game? Bang now, Okay, guys always act.
Speaker 4: Like when they say that they did one, they always
Speaker 4: act like, but I was first. Okay, is there like
Speaker 4: because they do that right there? Oh they did it,
Speaker 4: but you know I went first, so it was fine.
Speaker 3: The world testing, so I don't think there.
Speaker 4: But they do act like that, like they act like
Speaker 4: it's a thing like the order of no one wants.
Speaker 1: To go last.
Speaker 3: The order does not matter, and it should rotate around
Speaker 3: if you want to shoot it properly.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be like, the smaller guys go first.
Speaker 3: Hilarious unless you're doing you want to open up.
Speaker 1: If you go from like big to like small.
Speaker 3: And first of all, you don't put big in smallness
Speaker 3: in gang bang. Okay, you don't want small to see big. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what good is he gonna do. He's
Speaker 3: gonna be like what I'm gonna be like, what are
Speaker 3: you doing here? No, you gotta go the same.
Speaker 5: I've only had one, like, I've had a threesome.
Speaker 1: Okay, two guys.
Speaker 7: Okay, that's the only time I've ever had more than
Speaker 7: one guy. Okay, right, And and the smaller guy went first.
Speaker 1: But when you have a blog, you put the small
Speaker 1: one in. Then you got you gotta hold.
Speaker 5: It up like really, smaller guy went first.
Speaker 7: And it was like, honestly, I didn't want the threesome.
Speaker 5: I didn't want it. I didn't want it, but I
Speaker 5: was talking to the guy, and he wanted it.
Speaker 7: He wanted it, got the pleasure like that, he got
Speaker 7: pleasure from seeing me get fucked.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a cocking away, you know.
Speaker 4: And so I love the terminology you got this, I
Speaker 4: love it.
Speaker 5: But it was just like, you know, what did they like?
Speaker 5: I was faking it till I made it.
Speaker 7: But then.
Speaker 4: That's not a three sume because it was one guy
Speaker 4: went and then another went. That's not a three.
Speaker 7: But no, no, no, no, I was still like sucking dick
Speaker 7: and like getting it in the back.
Speaker 1: At the same time.
Speaker 5: Penetration. There was definitely like two holes still one time.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's great exercise.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you. It's like I had to work out
Speaker 3: so much tiring.
Speaker 5: I got it over my mouth.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I gotta squeeze my vagina, thanks so much at
Speaker 7: a lot of work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got squeeze with one guy.
Speaker 1: Do y'all do that? Kid?
Speaker 5: Do you squeeze? Do you think about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, I gotta remind myself though.
Speaker 3: Let's all do them now, right?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, okay, ten seconds one.
Speaker 1: She's really focus. I am six.
Speaker 3: Okay. So you had just said that this is the
Speaker 3: best what I This is the advice I give to
Speaker 3: everyone that just jumps onto only fans. First of all,
Speaker 3: I've been on since twenty seventeen. I use it as
Speaker 3: my library for my my whatever. I own my content,
Speaker 3: a lot of content that I bought back from companies
Speaker 3: that were folding when the Internet started popping and they
Speaker 3: were like, everyone's going to steal our content. We're already rich,
Speaker 3: We're done. I was like, I'll buy all my ship
Speaker 3: back from you. So I own a lot of scenes,
Speaker 3: So I do a library, and then I'll I'll do
Speaker 3: a stream once a month to keep engaged with my fans.
Speaker 10: Live, I strip tease, I do a solo masturbation, I talk.
Speaker 3: To them, and then once a week I do and
Speaker 3: ask me anything where I'm fully dressed and I get
Speaker 3: I help them with dating, how to approach a woman,
Speaker 3: trying to make them get off the internet and get up.
Speaker 3: But what I tell everyone when they're new is if
Speaker 3: you could give yourself a number that once you reach
Speaker 3: that number and put that money aside as money you're
Speaker 3: not going to touch. Even if you start a new business,
Speaker 3: that's not going to fund that business. You can always
Speaker 3: continue to utilize your only fans to fund your next business,
Speaker 3: which a lot of people are doing, which is fascinating
Speaker 3: because it's a great way to not put as much
Speaker 3: pressure on yourself. But you cannot step aside knowing that
Speaker 3: these images are going to be out there forever without
Speaker 3: saying this was my fucking goal. I made it. It's
Speaker 3: the bank. It's setting me up forever, fuck everybody, and
Speaker 3: you kind of have to do that.
Speaker 5: That's that's where I feel like I am right now.
Speaker 5: I feel like I've reached.
Speaker 3: It's like okay, like you'veted.
Speaker 5: Well over a million, okay, but have you saved a million?
Speaker 5: And I haven't saved a million. I would've made a million,
Speaker 5: and I'm.
Speaker 7: Just like, Okay, this doesn't excite me anymore.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: Listen, when you get old, you know, it's like away
Speaker 3: new guys.
Speaker 5: New guys always excite me. Okay, what even a new guy?
Speaker 2: Like dating a new guy like not even sex with
Speaker 2: not even dating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're so sex like you on your only fans.
Speaker 7: I'm kind of like a guy in a way, Like mentally,
Speaker 7: it's like the new ship like.
Speaker 1: Fucking you know how guys out there be like nothing like.
Speaker 5: Literally, okay, I've been getting like the same.
Speaker 6: There's naive for a minute.
Speaker 7: I've been getting sing dick for a minute, and it's
Speaker 7: like okay, like I want somebody to like literally.
Speaker 5: Fuck my heels off, okay.
Speaker 3: Like literally for you dating with an OnlyFans page, Because
Speaker 3: I mean I'm Alcolm. People ask me this question, I'm like, right.
Speaker 1: And everybody knows who.
Speaker 5: As far as like intimacy, yes.
Speaker 3: And I mean for them because men get insecure because options.
Speaker 5: No, of course intimacy. Yes, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: It's like, there's so many guys in my dms, like
Speaker 7: how much can I fuck you?
Speaker 5: Whatever?
Speaker 7: It's like, but are you going to give me what
Speaker 7: I want? Are you going to make me feel like
Speaker 7: I'm loved in that moment? I don't want you to
Speaker 7: actually love me.
Speaker 5: Do you get what I'm saying. I don't need that.
Speaker 7: I can, don't worry about that, you know, but when
Speaker 7: you fuck me, I wanted to feel like there's something special.
Speaker 5: Passion.
Speaker 3: So you're not feeling the passion. You're not feeling the
Speaker 3: passion for your bread winning only fans. I feel like
Speaker 3: you're bored at work. You are at work. That's all
Speaker 3: the same.
Speaker 5: Literally literally literally, So it's like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: When it's something guy. A new guy doesn't bore her
Speaker 2: there literally.
Speaker 3: But but she wants something new work wise.
Speaker 1: To yes, you like being single.
Speaker 7: I do like being single, but at the same time,
Speaker 7: it's like I'm a Gemini to.
Speaker 6: Wow, Yes, okay, side exactly where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1: You want that.
Speaker 3: I want that excitement on the other.
Speaker 1: To different people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so personalities exactly.
Speaker 7: It's like, Okay, I do want a man that's going
Speaker 7: to be soft with me, be a teddy bear and.
Speaker 5: Be that like you feel that shill and it's like
Speaker 5: that you stop with him.
Speaker 7: Though, yes, okay, I'm definitely soft, Like I can be soft,
Speaker 7: but with a new man, it's like I'm about to
Speaker 7: fuck your world up.
Speaker 1: It's a control thing, it feels, I.
Speaker 5: Think that's what it is.
Speaker 7: And it's like, you know, I don't want to bring
Speaker 7: the mood down or anything like that, but.
Speaker 5: Like I've been you know, sexually abused.
Speaker 7: More than I can count in the past, you know,
Speaker 7: And so it's like I kind of get satisfaction out of.
Speaker 5: Being in control. Do you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: So when I feel like, oh, yeah, like he's never
Speaker 7: had a bad bitch or like yeah, I'm about to
Speaker 7: show him something he's never seen before, like it gives
Speaker 7: me that sense of power and it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 7: it's just different.
Speaker 5: It's different.
Speaker 4: Kaya do you have you ever been intobody that you
Speaker 4: felt like safe and secure with?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have been I have been.
Speaker 7: In the end, I didn't, but in the majority of
Speaker 7: the relationship, I definitely feel felt safe and secure. So
Speaker 7: I opened myself up and gave myself to him in
Speaker 7: ways that I wouldn't give, you know, to other men.
Speaker 5: And you know so, but.
Speaker 3: It's no great following up question.
Speaker 5: I can't lie. I did love him in a way
Speaker 5: I can say I have love for him. Okay, am
Speaker 5: I in love with him?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: But I did have love for him, which is why
Speaker 5: I did the three in the first place.
Speaker 7: You get what I'm saying, because I never would have
Speaker 7: had sex with that guy, the other guy that he
Speaker 7: you know him, which was his cousin in.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what wasn't.
Speaker 3: Really we're almost getting in incest right here.
Speaker 5: This is as far as I know.
Speaker 1: You know, that's crazy.
Speaker 7: So as far as I know, like, it was just like, okay,
Speaker 7: like I get satisfaction after like you know, off of
Speaker 7: sea and her get hit from the back, and then
Speaker 7: you know, I want my cousin to get some from
Speaker 7: his standpoint, from.
Speaker 5: His get right now. So I was like, okay, fuck it,
Speaker 5: let's do it. I was drunk, I was high. It's like,
Speaker 5: fuck it, let's do it. Did it, and I was like,
Speaker 5: I didn't even want to fuck you, Like.
Speaker 1: I would have never done that, Never would have done that.
Speaker 4: Do you fact you have to be drunk and high
Speaker 4: a lot of times when you were performing.
Speaker 7: We definitely like when I when I do perform, when
Speaker 7: I make content, I definitely like take a couple of shots.
Speaker 5: To see this.
Speaker 7: But this is the problem that's different for me, Like
Speaker 7: a blunt is like a cigarette, Okay, you know, like
Speaker 7: when you get to that, I've been smoking since I
Speaker 7: was twelve. That's thirteen years for me. That shit is
Speaker 7: not going to hit me the same as when I
Speaker 7: first you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So I definitely need to smoke.
Speaker 7: But as far as drinking, I don't drink often, and
Speaker 7: when I do feel like I need to perform extra
Speaker 7: or to like make an aesthetic appeal in a way,
Speaker 7: you know, Like I feel like I definitely have to
Speaker 7: take a couple of shots to like loosen up and
Speaker 7: get in the get on the zone.
Speaker 10: I feel like I don't do poor, but I feel
Speaker 10: like I enjoy sex better if I have a shot before.
Speaker 3: But it's different gets set for a smaller environment, like
Speaker 3: only fans. I could see that because it's more intimate.
Speaker 3: You're in your home. But like for us on set,
Speaker 3: we're asked on camera, are you under the influence or
Speaker 3: any drugs?
Speaker 1: They don't want to.
Speaker 5: Clear head.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you kind of want to be because you
Speaker 3: are in someone's home. You do the whole crew that's
Speaker 3: relying on you for their paycheck, and so if you're
Speaker 3: a smart person. But don't get me wrong, i'd been
Speaker 3: in the dress. I never drank on set, and I
Speaker 3: never I would have a little bit of jmail when
Speaker 3: I was doing anal and a gang bang, no doubt,
Speaker 3: But on the road, never drank because I was in
Speaker 3: these clubs. But I remember sitting in the big up
Speaker 3: room and seeing girls like pull bottles of Bacardi Warm
Speaker 3: out of their bag and.
Speaker 1: Just chug it.
Speaker 3: And I used to say to them, like, if you
Speaker 3: have to do this at eight o'clock in the morning
Speaker 3: on a Tuesday to do this scene, you shouldn't be
Speaker 3: doing the scene.
Speaker 2: That would be me. I have to be not present, probably, But.
Speaker 3: It was scary for us because you don't know if
Speaker 3: the guy's hurting her. You don't know if she's tearing inside.
Speaker 1: In real life, if you're like that and a guy
Speaker 1: has sex with you, that's a crime.
Speaker 3: It is, and you know a lot of the male
Speaker 3: performers have a hard time with it. I agree with you.
Speaker 3: They get uncomfortable because I feel like I'm taking advantage
Speaker 3: of her. She's not present.
Speaker 5: I personally have anxiety. But for home.
Speaker 3: Content, I can see.
Speaker 7: That's like whether I was filming at home or filming
Speaker 7: on a set, it's like I need something to.
Speaker 5: Calm my nerves. Whether it's a blunt, whether it's liquor,
Speaker 5: you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: So it's just like, yeah, that might be, you know,
Speaker 7: the status quo, like for everybody else, but for me,
Speaker 7: it's like.
Speaker 5: Okay to do this and just calm down, just breathe,
Speaker 5: watch perform and look good. Oh yeah, i'ma suck the
Speaker 5: fun out.
Speaker 7: Of the But like like like you have to mentally
Speaker 7: prepare yourself. Like some people they're naturally born like you
Speaker 7: like with they.
Speaker 3: To just be like like, deal is in front of me.
Speaker 6: That's a big day for me.
Speaker 4: It's like that's a big one. You might have to
Speaker 4: have a couple of no problem, no problem at all.
Speaker 2: I'm not lack with big dicks. I just can I
Speaker 2: don't I don't like it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not gonna lie. I agree with you.
Speaker 3: It's just it's not for everyone. It's all out the curve,
Speaker 3: and some women have a curve that really makes them
Speaker 3: feel uncomfortable. And there's some women that say they could
Speaker 3: take a bigger dick in their ass than regular sex.
Speaker 3: Like everybody has a different.
Speaker 5: Men don't know that anything.
Speaker 7: A uterus not only does the curve left to right,
Speaker 7: it curves front to back.
Speaker 3: And everybody's just shifted a little bit.
Speaker 7: Literally, So it's like you don't know what type of
Speaker 7: what type of dick you like until you've experienced it all.
Speaker 2: You know, I've had orgasms with a medium size because
Speaker 2: I hit your.
Speaker 3: G spot medium and there's no and you're not uncomfortable
Speaker 3: because when you're relaxed because it's not too big and
Speaker 3: it does hit your G spot, you're gonna have a
Speaker 3: much better orehouse.
Speaker 1: But you're like big ones.
Speaker 3: I mean said, Look, I produced a lot of my
Speaker 3: own movies. I didn't want to shoot a movie with
Speaker 3: a small cock. It doesn't light well, it doesn't look good,
Speaker 3: it doesn't I want a girl that has a nice
Speaker 3: big booty, and she's gonna have to open up the
Speaker 3: whole time because that little cock is gonna get lost,
Speaker 3: you know, that is the value. I don't want to
Speaker 3: race car driver that drive.
Speaker 1: I do some people have little dick fetishes, like.
Speaker 3: I guess they do. I'm sorry that I did not care.
Speaker 7: Women nowadays are starting to become like I don't like
Speaker 7: a big dick, Like I feel like a lot of
Speaker 7: women are starting to become like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know about something like.
Speaker 8: That as well, because like a big, big we call
Speaker 8: ourselves museum dick.
Speaker 1: Yes, a museum dick's great to look at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally literally I look at these perfect sense. But listen,
Speaker 2: I deal with one now. It's it's a lot with
Speaker 2: more work.
Speaker 12: Definitely, rather that you're trying to deep throat it and
Speaker 12: it's a lot you're throwing.
Speaker 1: I'm like I said, it is, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: It's a.
Speaker 3: Great time to work your core, you know, you get
Speaker 3: that rhythm out your head. Squads.
Speaker 11: Nice size, But I agree with with Jasmine, I like,
Speaker 11: if it's too big, it's like and then and then
Speaker 11: I found that men who are larger are the asshole.
Speaker 3: You know why, you know what? They know they can
Speaker 3: get whatever they want, will go crazy.
Speaker 11: Big energy, and I think big dick energy is like
Speaker 11: it comes with like big ego.
Speaker 1: Don't think disrespect of course, it's like.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie. The little the smaller guys.
Speaker 1: They're so sweet.
Speaker 5: They're so sweet.
Speaker 3: They definitely give the head.
Speaker 1: You know what they have. They got to make up
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 3: They have many many years ago, I was asked a
Speaker 3: male bag question and a kid asked, like, what do
Speaker 3: I do? I'm a teenager? What do I do? Have
Speaker 3: a really small cough? And I said, you know what
Speaker 3: you do? You go to college, you become a plastic surgeon,
Speaker 3: and you are going to still marry a hot bitch.
Speaker 3: Years later, this kid comes up to me at an
Speaker 3: Exotica at my booth and says, I became a plastic Wow, beautiful,
Speaker 3: that's amazing doing a small dick. You must study and
Speaker 3: you must do things with your life because you can
Speaker 3: still be a big dick with a big wallet.
Speaker 1: Small dicks can do big things.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 3: Literally, there you go.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious, larious.
Speaker 4: Lisa, And now I want you to talk to Kaya
Speaker 4: also about the pivot that you've been able to make,
Speaker 4: because she's trying to figure out what's next, right and
Speaker 4: how hard was it for you to go from you know,
Speaker 4: I know you took a break for a period of
Speaker 4: time from the porn industry, but how hard was it
Speaker 4: for you to actually move into a space where you're
Speaker 4: very well respected.
Speaker 3: I was just about to ask that it is hard,
Speaker 3: and you have to be mentally prepared for it because
Speaker 3: what ends up coming out it is really the outside
Speaker 3: noise is very loud, and I can remember the first
Speaker 3: year of doing sports radia. First of all, you also
Speaker 3: have to be prepared that you're not going to make
Speaker 3: fast money. So for me, it was like, reach this target,
Speaker 3: have this much money in the bank. If I don't
Speaker 3: make shit for my next couple of years, I'm good
Speaker 3: because I'm gonna be building myself up. It's like starting
Speaker 3: a new career, right. It's the social media people. They
Speaker 3: were so fucking mean and relentless of any time I'd
Speaker 3: say something sports related. You were better when you had
Speaker 3: a dick in your ass. You were better when you
Speaker 3: were doing this, and it was so constant. It gave
Speaker 3: me a thick skin. There were days that were more
Speaker 3: emotional than others, and there were definitely times where I
Speaker 3: was like I ended up hiring somebody and I and
Speaker 3: to help me with social to help me not look
Speaker 3: at much. And I was like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 3: going to pay somebody to do this and just delete
Speaker 3: these comments and allow me to still go on and
Speaker 3: feel good about myself and engage with the right community.
Speaker 3: Because now you're building a new community, which is five
Speaker 3: percent of your interactions on social and you got to
Speaker 3: dig deep to get their five nice comments right through
Speaker 3: all this other. So there's gonna be a lot of naysayers,
Speaker 3: and there's gonna be days where it just feels awful.
Speaker 3: People called my radio show and would say horrible things
Speaker 3: to my producer. They would get through and say why
Speaker 3: did serious XM hire such a fucking whoror.
Speaker 5: Like it was.
Speaker 3: And also I had fans that were so angry that
Speaker 3: I left that they were almost trying to force me
Speaker 3: back in. Yeah, And so you just have to know
Speaker 3: who your friends are in this, in your in your core,
Speaker 3: your people that love you no matter what, and you're
Speaker 3: gonna have to lean on them a lot, and you're
Speaker 3: gonna have to have days where like, if you don't
Speaker 3: feel like going on social media, then don't. If you're
Speaker 3: not feeling mentally well, that day and you're because it's
Speaker 3: very triggering and learned that and yeah, and it you've
Speaker 3: grown up with it. It's your private, thin skin. But whenever
Speaker 3: you venture into next, be prepared for that. And then
Speaker 3: when you prepare yourself for that, like, okay, that's not amazing.
Speaker 4: And you know what else I think helps you too,
Speaker 4: also is that she's so well versed and what it
Speaker 4: is that you do you know, And I think that
Speaker 4: helps right because people could talk shit as much as
Speaker 4: they want, but when you know your shit, you've been
Speaker 4: working hard at it, then it's kind of like, say
Speaker 4: what you want, but I know what the fuck I'm
Speaker 4: talking about too exactly.
Speaker 3: You know what is it you're passionate about?
Speaker 5: Honestly, music, that's my biggest passion. Like I I record.
Speaker 5: People don't know I record because I don't drop music
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 7: I have one song, one song out on Apple Music, Spotify,
Speaker 7: all the network, all the you know stream.
Speaker 1: Kaya just kayak, just kaya.
Speaker 5: So I've dropped a song, but I haven't actually like
Speaker 5: let people in. My study.
Speaker 7: My struggle is letting people in because I've seen so
Speaker 7: much of like how people let people in and it's
Speaker 7: just like backfired on them and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 7: like they're trying to actually be themselves and people are
Speaker 7: shitting on them.
Speaker 1: What's the name of the song.
Speaker 7: It's called I Gotta Go Okay, and I dropped it
Speaker 7: probably two years two three years ago.
Speaker 3: And your only fans fans would be excited for you,
Speaker 3: believe it or not.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I have a lot of music fans.
Speaker 3: They would be they want all the time.
Speaker 7: And it's like, I'm just so scared because what I
Speaker 7: actually put in my music, that's what I'm actually going
Speaker 7: through and that's like what I'm that's what's going on
Speaker 7: in my life. And it's like if I let you in,
Speaker 7: what are you going to say about me?
Speaker 5: Like what's gonna end up in the block?
Speaker 1: Because it is very c it is it's.
Speaker 7: Like you're literally speaking from your soul, your heart, you know,
Speaker 7: and it's like you're just putting it all out there,
Speaker 7: and it's like people are going to take you for
Speaker 7: who you are and accept it and relate or they're
Speaker 7: going to.
Speaker 1: Be like, yeah, but you but you got you know,
Speaker 1: because on the people who relate, like.
Speaker 3: I said that five percent of your community, it's still
Speaker 3: giving you love that those the people you get extra
Speaker 3: close with and you're learning big to small. But you
Speaker 3: know what, you remember those people and they introduce to
Speaker 3: other friends because they share your stuff, and now you
Speaker 3: start to build this like kinder community.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm learning.
Speaker 11: You're right and it and it feels like you're almost
Speaker 11: afraid to fail, right like and almost like you're afraid
Speaker 11: to fail. Everybody is right, it is up.
Speaker 5: It's like a different Okay, I'll do porn, right.
Speaker 7: I literally spread it open for everybody, right, you have
Speaker 7: the short haircut.
Speaker 10: And the I do all right, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 5: But okay, so I spread it open for everybody.
Speaker 7: But it's not that's not my heart. That's me like
Speaker 7: literally trying to appeal to you in a way.
Speaker 5: You get what I'm saying. It's like, that's not who
Speaker 5: I am.
Speaker 1: Do you enjoy it? Do you enjoy doing porn?
Speaker 5: I have and I do sometimes.
Speaker 11: I was gonna say, there's a huge difference between just
Speaker 11: sitting here listen to both of you talk about what
Speaker 11: you do right, and I could feel like your energy
Speaker 11: feels like you're not all the way in it, you know,
Speaker 11: I feel like.
Speaker 5: You actually wanted to do what you did. Oh totally
Speaker 5: did literally you said, And that's the difference.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, but I also feel like, were you ever
Speaker 1: at a time like how kaya is apprehensive now.
Speaker 4: While you were in it, because I feel like you've
Speaker 4: also come through on the other side of I've been
Speaker 4: able to really like be super successful, put that behind
Speaker 4: you know that you could do other things, but still
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I had many bouts with where
Speaker 3: I was. But the difference was at sixteen, I wrote
Speaker 3: a mission statement to myself. I wanted three things in
Speaker 3: my life. And you said something downstairs earlier. You were
Speaker 3: so shocked that I never wanted kids. Well, I had
Speaker 3: a class. The teacher said, if you could nail down
Speaker 3: three things that you want, all my girlfriends like, I
Speaker 3: want to get married, I want to have kids at
Speaker 3: a house whatever, and mine where I wanted to travel
Speaker 3: and see the world. And I wanted to be financially independent,
Speaker 3: and I wanted to make my own schedule. And so
Speaker 3: from sixteen to eighteen, I was spending time thinking, well,
Speaker 3: what kind of fucking job's gonna enable me these things?
Speaker 3: And it was the perfect fit. So anytime I would
Speaker 3: get down on not loving the moment that I was
Speaker 3: in and what I was doing, I would think, but
Speaker 3: this is fueling your dreams. You're getting to travel and
Speaker 3: see the world, right, you are becoming financially independent.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I had these other things that would just be like
Speaker 3: this sucks right now, but this is why you're.
Speaker 5: Doing this going in the back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's important of those.
Speaker 1: Well, Kaya, what would be your mission statement?
Speaker 7: Honestly, my goal with this when I first started, it
Speaker 7: was just to provide.
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, I had no means.
Speaker 7: I had no identification, but didn't have that idea passport, nothing.
Speaker 7: I didn't have anything at that time because me and
Speaker 7: my baby's father was going through it and he ended
Speaker 7: up you know, stealing, you know, robbing me of my identity.
Speaker 5: And I was born in Germany, so it's a little
Speaker 5: bit harder. It's an extensive process to get do you
Speaker 5: get what I'm saying?
Speaker 7: So I couldn't I couldn't obtain a legal job, do
Speaker 7: you get what I'm saying? So I had to figure
Speaker 7: out a way, literally figure out a way.
Speaker 5: I couldn't even I couldn't.
Speaker 7: Even work at my local strip club because I needed
Speaker 7: an ID.
Speaker 3: To log in OnlyFans, right, So you did at that time.
Speaker 5: That's why I was using Patreon.
Speaker 3: Gotcha.
Speaker 7: I used Patreon when I first started out, and that's
Speaker 7: what made me my money until I was able to
Speaker 7: get my I D again and I like discovered, I'm like,
Speaker 7: I'm making all this money off Patreon. Like crippled you,
Speaker 7: You definitely did.
Speaker 3: I was only a great homework assignment is to think
Speaker 3: about if you could pick three things, what would be
Speaker 3: the three things that you'd like to see in your
Speaker 3: life the most. It's it's a hard like I remember
Speaker 3: that class. I think your help basically three things is
Speaker 3: you thought about it for days. We had all this time,
Speaker 3: We're all talking about it, and it was cute hearing
Speaker 3: what everybody wanted. I'm from a small town in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: This was pre internet, and it was very basic from Pennsylvania. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but that's.
Speaker 4: Part Easton by Allentown, Philly.
Speaker 7: I am outside so you know, Okay, so I grew
Speaker 7: up kind of in Philly, but I also grew up
Speaker 7: in Brownsville in Union Town. You know that little lass city, right, Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 7: so that's where I.
Speaker 1: Was when they say Yan's.
Speaker 3: Yep, it's just a thing. And that's and that really
Speaker 3: stuck with me. And so this business was. It provided
Speaker 3: me so many things, so I have to appreciate it.
Speaker 3: And you know, I never wanted to be one of
Speaker 3: those people that when I left, turned my back completely.
Speaker 3: I want to go to Exotica's, I want to go
Speaker 3: to Avian. I want to be present for all the
Speaker 3: performers today, for them to see me and be like,
Speaker 3: she's living a great life, She's good, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 4: And there's so many people that will never reach the
Speaker 4: level that you reach too, and you are on the
Speaker 4: other side. Yeah, but you also at a certain level
Speaker 4: within that industry too, because there are so many people
Speaker 4: that do that, that do poorn and they like.
Speaker 2: They may never they barely scratch the service, right.
Speaker 3: It's consistency. It has to be consistent with what you do.
Speaker 5: It's consistent. But it's also listening to your fans.
Speaker 7: It's like, what do you when they when they react
Speaker 7: to what it is that you put out, You're like,
Speaker 7: what do they feed it into more?
Speaker 3: We we didn't have reaction my first fifteen years in
Speaker 3: the business, righteous because you were shot.
Speaker 1: What about Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't work for the summer for three years
Speaker 3: in my life when I first moved to California, I
Speaker 3: had to live at the beach, and I said, I'm
Speaker 3: doing all my work in the fall. I'm gonna live
Speaker 3: like a teacher. I'm gonna take you. I know I
Speaker 3: had and I lived on a little bit of money.
Speaker 5: Who cared?
Speaker 3: But rent was six hundred a month back then. I
Speaker 3: still thought I was rich in California and like it
Speaker 3: was simple. But you know, it was a vehicle for me,
Speaker 3: and so I'm grateful for it, and I know want
Speaker 3: to turn my back on it, and I don't, and
Speaker 3: I don't think it hurt me. It is who I am.
Speaker 3: And the responses of others. What I've learned is it's
Speaker 3: not about you. It's about their relationship with what they're doing,
Speaker 3: whether they feel guilty about being on your page because
Speaker 3: they're in a relationship where they feel unsatisfied about their
Speaker 3: own sexual lives. Now, when people say mean things.
Speaker 2: To me, you know something wrong with them.
Speaker 3: I usually I gave up trolling trolls last year for
Speaker 3: New Year's Eve, but I've still two years. But before
Speaker 3: that I would write back, I'm so sorry that nobody
Speaker 3: will let you suck their deck.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry you can't get money.
Speaker 3: But it took me time to understand that is not
Speaker 3: about you.
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 3: It's not about you. It's about them and the relationship.
Speaker 4: Because why would they care so much about the decisions
Speaker 4: that you make in your life?
Speaker 11: Comment on you know, I told you it depends on
Speaker 11: the day. Right, certain days, I'm following you back like
Speaker 11: I and my mind.
Speaker 1: Can tell you to do my pussy.
Speaker 10: I mean it, Yes, I agree, But I want to
Speaker 10: know what are your fans like from you? Like what
Speaker 10: you said you have to listen to your fans. What
Speaker 10: kind of things do your fans like?
Speaker 5: Honestly, apparently I just got posted on the blogs. I
Speaker 5: didn't even know.
Speaker 7: My Hairstylis just told me, like yesterday when I went
Speaker 7: in to go see her, she was like, I saw
Speaker 7: you in the blogs and they were talking about the
Speaker 7: Twitter post that you posted because I had finally posted,
Speaker 7: finally posted a BWC video.
Speaker 5: What's that white guy? Oh? Okay?
Speaker 7: So I've always from the very jump, always been with
Speaker 7: black men. Okay, So I finally decided to venture out,
Speaker 7: you know, and you know, to appeal to a different audience,
Speaker 7: to gain a different audience.
Speaker 5: So you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: So I decided to, you know, post It's not the
Speaker 7: first time I've actually been with.
Speaker 5: The white guy.
Speaker 7: But you posted that guys plenty of times, but actually
Speaker 7: posting it and promoting it and trying to.
Speaker 5: You know, but they just Twitter was uproar.
Speaker 8: They they were so upset because my original fans were
Speaker 8: because I was always with black buying exactly.
Speaker 3: That's just everyone out there. If you're watching porn and
Speaker 3: you get in your feelings about it, I would like
Speaker 3: you to go for a wall, touch the grass, maybe
Speaker 3: make your bed, and I'm sure you have laundried.
Speaker 7: A lot of my followers feel like they're actually like
Speaker 7: they feel genuinely connected to me, and they feel like
Speaker 7: I'm there, is what you.
Speaker 1: Want it kind of I did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lisa, And what was it like the first time
Speaker 4: you had sex with a black eye?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm a mad teenager.
Speaker 1: I was in high I was in you know, important important.
Speaker 3: Well. It's interesting, you know, my first two years in
Speaker 3: the business, I wasn't allowed to do interracial because in
Speaker 3: the nineties, the cable companies that were buying the contract
Speaker 3: if you were a contract girl, your movies were made
Speaker 3: for cable, and the cable companies didn't buy interracial. So
Speaker 3: the first two years in the business I was not allowed.
Speaker 3: And so when I went out on my own, the
Speaker 3: first thing I did was went company to company and
Speaker 3: I said, look, I got to shoot interracial. It's bullshit
Speaker 3: that I haven't been able to have my own choices
Speaker 3: out here. We're not going to do it. We're not
Speaker 3: going to do it. I did a movie that was
Speaker 3: like a B like apartment, had to pretend it was
Speaker 3: my first time, just to break the seal. And then
Speaker 3: I was fortunate enough to be able to be in
Speaker 3: these meetings with the cable buyers and talk about how
Speaker 3: important it was to showcase interracial films on all platforms,
Speaker 3: and so slowly but surely that gets changed. But from
Speaker 3: that point forward, I made it a mission to at
Speaker 3: least be seventy five percent interracial of all of my scenes,
Speaker 3: because so many agents and people in the business still
Speaker 3: lie and tell the white girls, if you do this,
Speaker 3: it'll ruin your career. You won't get dance bookings. So
Speaker 3: to me, it was like, I want to show all
Speaker 3: of you it will not do anything, and you should
Speaker 3: be doing what you want to do, not what somebody
Speaker 3: else wants you, not to do.
Speaker 11: What what year would you say that switch was over?
Speaker 3: Like they said it started like ninety six, ninety seven, okay,
Speaker 3: and it took you know, that's you know, that's a
Speaker 3: long time ago.
Speaker 1: But it's shockedrazy.
Speaker 3: It shocked me to get business eight Like you really
Speaker 3: sorry to be told that because I was like, wow,
Speaker 3: I didn't think I'd believing my small.
Speaker 4: Town crazy for you to have sex with a a
Speaker 4: black man and then for now, I wasn't even born
Speaker 4: today you having sex with a white white man makes
Speaker 4: people so angry.
Speaker 7: Literally, it's extreme controversy. Like I'm turning I turned my
Speaker 7: comments off. I'm like, I'm not doing this. I'm not
Speaker 7: doing this. I had to literally turn my comments off.
Speaker 7: I'm like, you guys are not going to bully me
Speaker 7: into doing what you want.
Speaker 5: Me to do. Do you get what I'm saying?
Speaker 7: Like I want to do this, this is what makes
Speaker 7: me happy.
Speaker 5: This is who I feel chemistry with. Do you get
Speaker 5: what I'm saying?
Speaker 7: And my only fans content is I want to say
Speaker 7: ninety eight percent of the time is organic. It's horm
Speaker 7: it's homemade, it's it's just very like it's in the moment,
Speaker 7: like oh, we're about to fuck. Oh babe, hold on,
Speaker 7: hold this, hold this, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: Like it's in the moment. So for people to tell me, oh.
Speaker 5: Like the ship that they said, you guys like what.
Speaker 7: They would be like, Oh my god, you fuck with
Speaker 7: pink dick now, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I'm curious.
Speaker 1: I'm so curious on the interracial stuff.
Speaker 11: And I want to know from a business standpoint, did
Speaker 11: the interracial content perform differently around that time and today?
Speaker 3: What is like the still performs way better than most
Speaker 3: other content. And even then once it started to be
Speaker 3: something where remember when in the nineties we did all
Speaker 3: these adult bookstore signings and I would go to the
Speaker 3: adult bookstore and they would tell me, like, all of
Speaker 3: this is renting like crazy, but we still keep it
Speaker 3: all the way in the back. And I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: you're gonna put all the Lisa and movies together, and
Speaker 3: you're gonna put them together. It doesn't matter. But it did.
Speaker 3: It performed so much better. There's many reasons. I mean,
Speaker 3: I just think it's so beautiful. A shoot, you know,
Speaker 3: I love nothing more than long, dark fingers on a girl,
Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, like the benit like that was what
Speaker 3: was this beautiful contrast is so artistically and it's just
Speaker 3: so different.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 2: Well, I like black hands and black dick too, so.
Speaker 4: I love a black dick and Jack's been peeling at you, girl.
Speaker 2: I love the contrast.
Speaker 1: I've never been with the white guy neither.
Speaker 10: No, never need one thing that I this is awful
Speaker 10: to say. I just can't imagine having a pink dick
Speaker 10: in my mouth, all right, I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine it.
Speaker 1: I've imagine i'd been.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine it's the pink in my mouth.
Speaker 7: Sexually, I've not been with two white guys in my
Speaker 7: whole life. I can't sexually, I've only been with two
Speaker 7: white guys in my whole entire life.
Speaker 5: How was it the first time?
Speaker 7: I was seventeen years old, he actually ended up proposing
Speaker 7: to me, and I was like.
Speaker 3: How old were you when you proposed?
Speaker 5: Seventeen?
Speaker 1: You were both seventeen.
Speaker 3: It's hard.
Speaker 7: I was seventeen and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 7: But in the back of my head, I'm like, oh no,
Speaker 7: he must be crazy. We've only been talking for like
Speaker 7: three weeks, you know. But that was the first, at
Speaker 7: seventeen years old that was the first white dick I've
Speaker 7: ever had in my life.
Speaker 5: And we fucked. We went to like this power plant
Speaker 5: or something.
Speaker 6: Power plant, Yes, we would power like a power plant.
Speaker 5: And it was just like we were sitting out there
Speaker 5: in his car. I think he was like in a Toyota.
Speaker 7: Or something a little and we had sex in the
Speaker 7: back of this and he had like maybe seven and
Speaker 7: a half eight inches and I was just like, oh.
Speaker 5: Oh my god. I don't know white guys could do it.
Speaker 1: It's your virginity.
Speaker 5: I lost my virginity at a very long, very young
Speaker 5: age and.
Speaker 1: Not a good experience.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not a good experience.
Speaker 7: It wasn't consensual, right, So but I lost my virginity
Speaker 7: consensually at fifteen years old. So yeah, when I met
Speaker 7: him at seventeen, I was just like, oh my god, like.
Speaker 5: This is the biggest dick I've ever had, and you're
Speaker 5: a white guy. Like, oh, let me say this.
Speaker 3: When I first got to California, one of the first
Speaker 3: things I want to do when I had what I
Speaker 3: considered money was see a therapist because I wanted to
Speaker 3: reinvent my life. Didn't have a great family, just wanted
Speaker 3: to learn and I want to learn why I was
Speaker 3: so drawn to this, and for many of us who
Speaker 3: have been sexually abused, we were younger. When something is
Speaker 3: taken from you and you don't have the choice to
Speaker 3: offer it, you lose value for it. So it does
Speaker 3: make it easier for us to exist in this space,
Speaker 3: whereas my friends that didn't go through something to them,
Speaker 3: it would just be crazy to even be naked on
Speaker 3: stage at a strip club, Like if they would tell me,
Speaker 3: if you can do this, you should do this, because
Speaker 3: we could do this. So it is very common and
Speaker 3: I did. I did three years of therapy to really
Speaker 3: understand myself to make sure I wasn't making reckless decisions
Speaker 3: to plot and plan my life as purposefully as I
Speaker 3: could in my early twenties. But it really helped me
Speaker 3: identify with that because I was curious when I got
Speaker 3: into the industry how many women had similar stories. I
Speaker 3: was like, there has to be a reason why this
Speaker 3: becomes the melting pot. And that's really the reason.
Speaker 5: Therapy. I've never done therapy. It's so have been recommended,
Speaker 5: it's so helpful.
Speaker 2: Girl, you need to go to therapy.
Speaker 5: It's so kind of like, I'm just very apprehensive about it.
Speaker 5: I'm very like stand offish about it.
Speaker 3: It's very you'll really get to know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 7: I don't know because I don't want to go to
Speaker 7: a therapist that's like textbook. I want somebody that's actually recommendation.
Speaker 3: Interview till you find somebody you job with looking like
Speaker 3: your accountant, I'm pretty prettre.
Speaker 11: I think it's more so, you know, don't don't think
Speaker 11: of therapy right as just the traditional like you sitting
Speaker 11: across from a doctor, and therapy can come from so
Speaker 11: many different places and that's where.
Speaker 5: I find it.
Speaker 7: So when people ask me, have I've been to therapy,
Speaker 7: I have not been to professional therapy, but I've had
Speaker 7: I feel like the right people in my life to
Speaker 7: kind of guide me and soothe and heal certain wounds,
Speaker 7: you know, And I feel.
Speaker 5: Like I'll tell you.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you all the stupid shit I was doing.
Speaker 3: And one of the first things my therapist said my
Speaker 3: first month was here's your project. You have to meet
Speaker 3: five guys that you're gonna be friends with that you're
Speaker 3: never gonna have sucks, because at that time, as a teenager,
Speaker 3: I was just flipping through guys and that was amal
Speaker 3: and thatged my relationship with men, because if you're gonna
Speaker 3: be friends, you actually have to think they're decent people.
Speaker 3: You get to know them, you get to hear them
Speaker 3: talking about women they're dating and how they want to
Speaker 3: treat them, and you get a new view. And it
Speaker 3: was it was just all these little assignments that crazy.
Speaker 4: I will say this, I've always felt like men who
Speaker 4: don't have women friends can't be trusted because if you
Speaker 4: only look at women as sexual objects or like, I
Speaker 4: can't just be friends with you.
Speaker 1: That's an issue.
Speaker 4: Like I've always had guy friends that I've never had
Speaker 4: any attraction to.
Speaker 1: They've never.
Speaker 4: And so I feel like that's a valuable thing, and
Speaker 4: I think that men should be able to do that
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 1: Do you have five guy friends that not five?
Speaker 8: Few?
Speaker 5: Okay, two or three?
Speaker 7: I have two or three maybe that you know, I've
Speaker 7: never had sex with that I can literally call, and
Speaker 7: that I've literally cuddled with in bed, like we've spooned,
Speaker 7: but it's never gone past that.
Speaker 11: But they can't want to have Yeah, I can't even
Speaker 11: think about it.
Speaker 7: It's like, Okay, we've been drinking and smoking all night,
Speaker 7: we went out, had a good night and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 7: you're a guy and you're here in my space.
Speaker 3: No, your friend goes home.
Speaker 5: The count.
Speaker 7: To me, it's like, okay, if you're here, fucking hold me,
Speaker 7: do something. Don't like I don't want to feel that
Speaker 7: distance that like I don't know, it just like does
Speaker 7: something to me. Like if I feel connected to somebody
Speaker 7: and I'm not touching them in a way or to them.
Speaker 3: I'm like, with the focus.
Speaker 4: My guy friends, I would be disgusted at the idea
Speaker 4: of cindly the guy friends I have to it would
Speaker 4: be like cuddling with your brother.
Speaker 11: I think that's a different Those five guy friends are different.
Speaker 4: You could never see me, I would understand what.
Speaker 5: See.
Speaker 7: I never had somebody that like was a friend to
Speaker 7: me that I didn't feel like I needed.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Maybe touch is just my thing, you know, Like touch
Speaker 7: just might be my thing where I'm like, okay, we
Speaker 7: need to be touching in a way. I don't care
Speaker 7: if we're holding hands when we go to sleep.
Speaker 5: Do you just touch me?
Speaker 2: You have siblings?
Speaker 1: Do you have a brother?
Speaker 7: I do, But I'm not as close with my siblings
Speaker 7: as I like to be, you know, just.
Speaker 5: Because of like the route that I've gone, I've chose.
Speaker 1: So your family has issues with.
Speaker 5: This, they don't anymore.
Speaker 7: They did in the beginning, but they've kind of evolved
Speaker 7: with time, and it's like, Okay, like, this is who
Speaker 7: she is, and if you know this is who she is,
Speaker 7: I'm either going to love her.
Speaker 5: I'm not for.
Speaker 7: Who she is, not what it is that she does.
Speaker 7: Do you get what I'm saying? Like this is she
Speaker 7: doesn't ask us for anything. If anything, she sends us money,
Speaker 7: she helps us.
Speaker 4: So that helps a lot exactly exactly.
Speaker 7: We're gonna accept who she is at her core or
Speaker 7: we're not, Like and what I do for my.
Speaker 5: Job is not who I am. And that's like one
Speaker 5: of the biggest things that I'm like trying to put
Speaker 5: out there.
Speaker 7: Like you guys, a lot of guys have this, you know,
Speaker 7: perception that porn stars.
Speaker 3: Aren't real people have If they say to you in
Speaker 3: the d M, I explained to them that we don't
Speaker 3: align and I refend them money and block thems. I
Speaker 3: don't want members of my page that are disrespectful kind
Speaker 3: and I want this to be exclusive. This is my club.
Speaker 7: You have guys that literally like I don't meet up
Speaker 7: with guys. I don't have sex with guys for money,
Speaker 7: you know whatever. But they'll d M me and be like,
Speaker 7: you know, can I book you. I'll take their money because.
Speaker 5: I have it, have it in my bio. No meets no.
Speaker 5: You get what I'm saying. You're never gonna see me
Speaker 5: in person. You might see me behind it phone.
Speaker 3: Report them to only fans because that goes against the
Speaker 3: policy of the page. I don't want to.
Speaker 7: Have you.
Speaker 1: Meeting somebody in real life that follows you.
Speaker 2: I don't think, so, okay, that's not.
Speaker 3: Bad ones, but you know, it's just it's gonna happen,
Speaker 3: and there's an assumption. And even when they come to
Speaker 3: trade shows or whatever, there's an assumption. People know me
Speaker 3: well enough by now. I'm pretty blunt about it. I'm
Speaker 3: pretty honest. But even dating can be difficult because a
Speaker 3: guy made assume. I went on a date with the
Speaker 3: comedian a couple of like five years ago, and we
Speaker 3: only went on a one date, and I was going
Speaker 3: away and I was going to the mountains with my family,
Speaker 3: and I wasn't gonna have service, so I didn't answer
Speaker 3: the phone for like four days. This fucking guy left
Speaker 3: me an email a thread about how disappointed he was.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe I didn't fuck him like he must
Speaker 3: have just thought. And I didn't feel him that way.
Speaker 3: And that's I don't let the fuck around. I got
Speaker 3: on a first date, but that let me know I
Speaker 3: did the right thing. He had those expects They do
Speaker 3: have expectations, So you just have to temper those expectations.
Speaker 3: And you know, one thing is one thing, one thing
Speaker 3: is another.
Speaker 1: Do you like women? She does a whole thing.
Speaker 5: I like women in a way. I had some liquor
Speaker 5: in my system.
Speaker 7: I love but when I'm so away, like cute, but okay,
Speaker 7: she likes living a part time there.
Speaker 4: There you go, dimble and dabble. Yeah, but you couldn't
Speaker 4: see yourself with a woman.
Speaker 5: I used to.
Speaker 7: I used to after you know, growing up, when you've
Speaker 7: had you know, those sexual experiences where you're not in control,
Speaker 7: you begin to look at you know, Okay, what's gonna
Speaker 7: relate to me the closest, what's gonna comfort me.
Speaker 5: More, what's gonna make it maybe stay safe? Exactly?
Speaker 7: So I definitely gravitated towards women when I was younger,
Speaker 7: in like my high school days, I had a bad
Speaker 7: experience and that kind of just turned me so sour.
Speaker 7: Like I I was talking to this girl when I
Speaker 7: was in high school for like years and I finally
Speaker 7: went to go see her and we ended up having sex,
Speaker 7: and like she wanted to eat my pussy.
Speaker 5: She wanted to figure me this dady her.
Speaker 7: But when I tried to go do the same, it
Speaker 7: was like she was very hesitant, and like when I
Speaker 7: finally did, like you know, you know you're you're fucking around,
Speaker 7: like I'm teasing her like fingers finally go in, the
Speaker 7: smells just not right, okay.
Speaker 5: Like you don't fuck any niggas. You don't got right,
Speaker 5: do you?
Speaker 3: Guys?
Speaker 5: So how do you? How was this?
Speaker 7: How is your pH off? There wasn't a guy in you,
Speaker 7: so what did you do to cause your pH to
Speaker 7: be off? It made me begin to question.
Speaker 5: Like who she was and all these other things. But
Speaker 5: like it just really put a bad taste.
Speaker 1: It didn't turn out literally literally.
Speaker 7: No, I didn't taste it, okay, but no, definitely a
Speaker 7: bad taste in you know you don't.
Speaker 2: Like women because a man don't have a bad bad
Speaker 2: I still.
Speaker 6: I was in love with what was going on with her.
Speaker 7: I didn't find it I never found out, and she
Speaker 7: actually messaged me like a few months ago. It's crazy,
Speaker 7: She's like I got that fixed, Like no, no, she
Speaker 7: just like it was like nothing ever happened, Like she
Speaker 7: just messaged me.
Speaker 2: And it was just like so you never talked to
Speaker 2: her about it.
Speaker 7: Never, I've never bought it up to her, but I've
Speaker 7: definitely talked about it on social media.
Speaker 5: Knows that I don't think she's caught it.
Speaker 2: She might catch it now she caught it what it is,
Speaker 2: God bless her.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it just wasn't right.
Speaker 3: And you do girls on your only fans page.
Speaker 5: No, I've never had a girl and girl.
Speaker 3: If you make big money doing that, one girl I
Speaker 3: plan to do with.
Speaker 7: So I'm definitely yeah, I'm definitely collabing with girl.
Speaker 1: What made her special that you decided to do it?
Speaker 7: She's older from one and then two, Like I just
Speaker 7: it's energy for me, Like I just I feel like she's.
Speaker 5: The way she speaks.
Speaker 7: And she pres sense yourself on social media. It's just
Speaker 7: like okay, like she takes her health seriously. She's clean.
Speaker 7: I see she's clean. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Are you guys getting tested even though you're just kind
Speaker 3: of self regulating good.
Speaker 5: Of course, all the time, all the time.
Speaker 7: Every time I have sex, I go and get tested,
Speaker 7: whether I feel like I've been fucking with you for
Speaker 7: this long or whatever. It's like, Okay, if I'm in
Speaker 7: a relationship and I have a boyfriend, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 7: I might get tested like every you know, two or
Speaker 7: three weeks because I don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, And that's my boy and he's getting
Speaker 1: tested too.
Speaker 5: That's my boyfriend. Okay, I don't know if he's getting
Speaker 5: tested or not, because I.
Speaker 1: Make sure IEM make sure you see his test.
Speaker 7: Also, I make sure in the beginning, I definitely make
Speaker 7: sure I see the test. But like, if we're in
Speaker 7: a relationship, I make sure I'm okay.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna be like, oh, you need to go
Speaker 7: get tested every single month, Like I just feel like
Speaker 7: that's just too heavy on the relationship.
Speaker 5: It's like, I'm gonna make sure I'm okay.
Speaker 1: But see that. Guys in the same industry issue like
Speaker 1: would you want to know Okay.
Speaker 7: No, I've tried dating one guy that I've been in
Speaker 7: the industry with that we had greet chemistry.
Speaker 5: Everybody always talks about us. They always talk about, are
Speaker 5: you gonna do another video with him? No, I'm not. Okay,
Speaker 5: there's reasons, but he just wasn't my daye. It was
Speaker 5: wasn't my cup of tea.
Speaker 1: Even though there was chemistry, there.
Speaker 5: Was chemistry, it was great. But I dodged a bullet.
Speaker 7: And I've noticed I've done that a lot with a
Speaker 7: lot of people that I've messed with it in the past.
Speaker 7: When I decided to stop fucking with somebody, I've dodged
Speaker 7: a bullet. Some ship comes out about him, and I'm like,
Speaker 7: thank god, Oh my god. And he came out and
Speaker 7: he had like fucking seventeen girls like tatted on his body,
Speaker 7: his body with their body he had.
Speaker 5: Okay, they had seventeen different girls.
Speaker 1: That's wild.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, yeah, No, I definitely dodged a bullet.
Speaker 1: Girl, I'm like, no, was he an artist or something? No,
Speaker 1: just a regular, just.
Speaker 5: A big OnlyFans guy.
Speaker 4: Okay, right, Lisa, And you've also been on a great
Speaker 4: journey talking about health and wellness too, And I think
Speaker 4: that's important as we're having these conversations just to kind
Speaker 4: of wrap this up, but talk to us about that.
Speaker 3: I think it's really important. You know, we talk so
Speaker 3: much about mental health in the media. We put it
Speaker 3: out there, but what are we doing every day to
Speaker 3: make sure that word our best, that we're looking out
Speaker 3: for our friends and the people in our lives to
Speaker 3: make sure they're okay, And whether it's establishing a good
Speaker 3: morning routine that makes you wake up happy. Like I
Speaker 3: don't touch my phone for the first three hours I'm
Speaker 3: a week. I have another phone that has my Pandora
Speaker 3: for my music at the gym, you know, my little thing.
Speaker 3: I don't check email. I don't fuck with anybody because
Speaker 3: when I grew up, my parents got not one phone
Speaker 3: call at home from work. They went back to work
Speaker 3: the next day and that's where it happened. So I
Speaker 3: think having that time for you can really start your
Speaker 3: day in the right way, and then being able to
Speaker 3: look out for your people. When do you see somebody
Speaker 3: maybe dipping a little bit on social reach out text,
Speaker 3: don't leave a comment in the DM, text hey you good,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen you in a minute, let's catch up.
Speaker 3: Since the pandemic, I've also been so much more connected
Speaker 3: with my friends, like done more facetimes and video calls
Speaker 3: than ever and we've kept this in our lives. And
Speaker 3: I will say, it is so good to have these
Speaker 3: friendships that you've had for years that live in different places,
Speaker 3: and whether it's once a month or once a week,
Speaker 3: you hop on, you just catch up, but went on
Speaker 3: your life this week, These little escapes from all the
Speaker 3: stuff that's wearing us on the internet, the constant pressure
Speaker 3: did I post enough today? Do I look good enough today?
Speaker 3: You forget all of that when you're connecting with people
Speaker 3: that care about you and that you care about. And
Speaker 3: I just think it's so easy for us to take
Speaker 3: ourselves and make our lives as content because I think
Speaker 3: when you're older, content becomes valuable. When you're younger, you
Speaker 3: want everything to be amazing. No, I'm going content, That's
Speaker 3: what I'm learning. But take that time. And I think
Speaker 3: we all need to be aware of our own limits.
Speaker 3: If you're cranky one day, it is okay to not
Speaker 3: do shit if you can, you know, if it's a
Speaker 3: weekend you don't feel like, what are your makeup? It's
Speaker 3: okay to do that. I think it's that is it okay?
Speaker 3: We have to let it be okay. We have to
Speaker 3: connect with our people and start our days or end
Speaker 3: our days in a routine that really makes us feel happy.
Speaker 4: I love that, and that was a great way for
Speaker 4: us to kind of wrap this up. But you know,
Speaker 4: I do appreciate y'all both for coming out here. I
Speaker 4: like the synergy between the two of you because Kaya
Speaker 4: is trying to figure out her way, you know, to
Speaker 4: get to a different space.
Speaker 3: So yeah, pivot, Yeah.
Speaker 4: To pivot and Lisa and has I think more successfully
Speaker 4: than anybody.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 4: You know, pivoted And a lot of that is due to,
Speaker 4: like I said, the intelligence that you have, the capabilities,
Speaker 4: that you have the willingness to always learn and grow
Speaker 4: put But I love the fact that you told us
Speaker 4: how you were able to do it even though they
Speaker 4: were naysayers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and you've.
Speaker 5: Had inspiring as Yeah, I mean you turned that around.
Speaker 5: It's inspiring as fuck. I love it.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: So I think that's a me to see.
Speaker 4: And that's why Kaya, I think it's great for you
Speaker 4: to have been on here with her, because you're only
Speaker 4: twenty five years old right now.
Speaker 1: Baby, so you have girl, and you're gonna get it together.
Speaker 4: And I'm really hopeful that you decide to just go
Speaker 4: ahead and like be more open with posting your music
Speaker 4: and pursuing your goals because you can make it happen, definitely, And.
Speaker 3: We followed each other. Geez, you're gonna beat your questions
Speaker 3: and I'll put you in my FaceTime rotation and we'll
Speaker 3: sit and we'll chat it up.
Speaker 4: I love it all right, well, I love to see it, Kim.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, O Jasmine. I hope and listen. I hope
Speaker 4: this is the beginning of a friendship, like how we
Speaker 4: have our friendship, you know, on here, because I think
Speaker 4: it is so important that we all support each other.
Speaker 4: And Lisa and you cannot not come up here for
Speaker 4: that long of a time again.
Speaker 3: I'll be about to.
Speaker 4: Welcome at any time. We love you, okay, thank you
Speaker 4: so much.
Speaker 1: You guys. It's lip service.