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Speaker 1: What's up step service time manager?

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Speaker 2: Like, yee, I'm Jazzmine Brand, I'm Kim.

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Speaker 3: Osorio, I'm Lisa Am, I'm Kaya.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I like that. That was smooth. But welcome back,

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Speaker 1: Lisa Ann.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me back.

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Speaker 4: It's been a minute, I know, but you're a fan

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Speaker 4: favorite and you're one of our favorites too. Thank you,

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Speaker 4: and Kaya, we pop in your cherry today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah sounds good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 4: So let's get into well, let's talk with you Kaya,

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Speaker 4: and of course Kim Osorio is here guest hosting.

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Speaker 1: Jazmine Brand is here.

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Speaker 4: I would I like to call them and you too, Lisa,

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Speaker 4: and the three of you guys are like media moguls.

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Speaker 4: I would say, just from the experiences that you guys

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Speaker 4: have all had in the business. Me and Kim have

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Speaker 4: known each other for dannar thirty years. I want to say, that's.

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Speaker 2: Scary, and you're only thirty five.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that was fine.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess special.

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Speaker 4: No, but we've known each other forever and came up

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Speaker 4: in this business together. Former editor in chief of The Source.

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Speaker 4: I always like to say that. But TV doc and

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Speaker 4: now so you've seen a lot of her shows on

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Speaker 4: we TV on BT on v H one. What are

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Speaker 4: the networks I forgot okay.

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Speaker 6: Plus B plus we love to see it.

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Speaker 4: And Jasmine of course owns the Jasmine brand. And Lisa

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Speaker 4: and you have your podcast now too on Sirius XM.

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Speaker 3: So comedy show is on Sirius XM. Better Haves. My

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Speaker 3: podcast is still self produced, and I recently partnered with

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Speaker 3: a winery in Sicily to bring wine from Ciccily.

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Speaker 1: She don't play.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you need to leave a little earlier, and you

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Speaker 2: need to we should.

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Speaker 1: We should have ordered the wine in advance.

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Speaker 4: We coah, but you know what, we'll order it for

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Speaker 4: the next episode even if you're not here.

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Speaker 3: We'll shut it down to you guys once we get more.

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Speaker 1: And That's what I'm doing.

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Speaker 4: And Kaya, this is your first time, so let's get

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Speaker 4: into everything that you have going on.

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Speaker 1: Because my boy Amir hit me up and he was like,

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Speaker 1: y'all need to get Kaya.

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Speaker 4: And before you came up here, now there was a

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Speaker 4: group of guys up here and they were like, oh

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Speaker 4: my god, you have a legend coming up and a

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Speaker 4: future legend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay, listen.

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Speaker 5: You know I've been doing only fans.

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Speaker 7: Okay, probably four years now, going on five, and I've

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Speaker 7: been a top creator damn near since I began, and

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Speaker 7: I've just kind of like, you know, conquered the platform

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Speaker 7: in a way, you know, and I'm just trying to

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Speaker 7: figure out what's what's next, what's more, what else is there?

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Speaker 1: You know, only fans is addictive tale.

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Speaker 4: I saw her talking about how she was about to

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Speaker 4: lose her house and she went out only fans and

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Speaker 4: paid her whole entire.

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Speaker 1: Immediately, immediately, immediately. You know how amazing that is.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible, especially for somebody that we've all loved for

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Speaker 3: so many years and watched her in the Sopranos, And

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Speaker 3: it's not easy to get more work in Hollywood. She's

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Speaker 3: be able to step in and utilize the platform like that.

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Speaker 1: So many people have. I feel like, so for you

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Speaker 4: Don't ever be like, you know, no, honestly, because even

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, I want to move on.

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Speaker 7: To Okay, to just other things, and it wasn't like, oh,

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Speaker 7: I was literally I had twenty five dollars to my name,

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Speaker 7: It was just it was a lot, and his father

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Speaker 1: When did you realize that was an option for you?

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Speaker 7: I started at fifteen, when I was fifteen years old.

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Speaker 7: You guys remember Vine?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so love Vine? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Literally I hate it in a way in all my

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Speaker 5: It really was.

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Speaker 1: After that, I didn't trust none of these platforms.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to. You're like, they're trying to steal.

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Speaker 3: But you also back up on your content. Now, after

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Speaker 3: you lose everything on a platform, You're like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: And I'm tired of learning these new platforms. Okay, so

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Speaker 7: So I was fifteen and I had these millions of

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Speaker 9: I'm just tworking in a pool and between I wasking

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Speaker 9: that sounds like perverts, by the way, yeah for sure

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Speaker 9: if they're following you at fifteen, they were go ahead, okay,

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Speaker 5: No we know, yeah, we can, we know at fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, that's scary.

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Speaker 5: To me, guy league NBOB.

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Speaker 3: Average kid is now accessing adult content between ten and eleven.

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Speaker 3: And though the one great thing about OnlyFans is actually

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Speaker 1: In because they got to have a credit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah this was ten years ago, right ten years ago.

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Speaker 7: I started on Vine and had all these different people

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Speaker 1: How were you at that time?

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Speaker 2: Okay, what was the video that popped on Instagram?

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Speaker 5: I had these American flag leggings on.

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Speaker 7: You guys, remember when all these different leggings were out

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Speaker 5: Today you look at.

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Speaker 7: It and you're like, oh, that looks so cheap, and

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Speaker 7: But yeah, I had these American le leggings on, and

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Speaker 7: And I have all these people in my dms and everything,

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Speaker 5: My mom found out I talked in the pool at

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Speaker 1: How do you monetize from you're fifteen?

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Speaker 5: You know exactly.

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Speaker 4: Because it also just seems so wrong, like what, who

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Speaker 7: It's not because I wasn't naked, but I but I

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Speaker 3: Right, you were putting that out there in a way

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Speaker 7: So it was just all these different people from different

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Speaker 3: It's not that abnormal now, you know, we see a

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Speaker 3: So if you've already been in that baby and look

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Speaker 5: That could be every week.

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Speaker 3: I was a curious teenager and had sex in high school,

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Speaker 1: For right oh shit, right now.

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Speaker 4: And both of you are beautiful women to be in

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Speaker 1: Move out of this space.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think is what where do you

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Speaker 5: I don't want to be movies.

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Speaker 1: Lisa Ann is a perfect person for you to be

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Speaker 4: Then but people know that, but also just being really

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Speaker 4: I think that you can still you know, be proud

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I feel like if you can successfully do a gang bang,

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Speaker 7: Banks, did you have to mentally prepare yourself for that.

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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it. I was.

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Speaker 1: What did you enjoy?

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed the fact that I could live out of

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Speaker 3: we've seen it all and they're attentive. So it was

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Speaker 3: a great like I grew. I went into that business

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Speaker 3: I felt empowered. I took control of my financial future,

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Speaker 4: I do say it's huge industry. There's no way that

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Speaker 1: That really thrived and that was my god. Yeah, but

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Speaker 5: Like the money I made during the But the only.

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Speaker 4: Reason is probably because I'm so busy, Like I think

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Speaker 3: Great it's a great couple things. It's a great things

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Speaker 3: like once in a while with your guy, like and

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Speaker 1: To this game? Bang now, Okay, guys always act.

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Speaker 4: Like when they say that they did one, they always

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Speaker 4: because they do that right there? Oh they did it,

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Speaker 3: The world testing, so I don't think there.

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Speaker 4: But they do act like that, like they act like

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Speaker 4: it's a thing like the order of no one wants.

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Speaker 3: The order does not matter, and it should rotate around

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't be like, the smaller guys go first.

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Speaker 3: Hilarious unless you're doing you want to open up.

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Speaker 1: If you go from like big to like small.

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Speaker 3: And first of all, you don't put big in smallness

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Speaker 3: in gang bang. Okay, you don't want small to see big. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, what good is he gonna do. He's

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Speaker 3: gonna be like what I'm gonna be like, what are

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Speaker 3: you doing here? No, you gotta go the same.

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Speaker 5: I've only had one, like, I've had a threesome.

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Speaker 1: Okay, two guys.

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Speaker 7: Okay, that's the only time I've ever had more than

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Speaker 7: one guy. Okay, right, And and the smaller guy went first.

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Speaker 1: But when you have a blog, you put the small

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Speaker 5: It up like really, smaller guy went first.

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Speaker 7: And it was like, honestly, I didn't want the threesome.

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Speaker 5: I didn't want it. I didn't want it, but I

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Speaker 7: He wanted it, got the pleasure like that, he got

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a cocking away, you know.

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Speaker 4: And so I love the terminology you got this, I

448
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 4: love it.

449
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 5: But it was just like, you know, what did they like?

450
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,959
Speaker 5: I was faking it till I made it.

451
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 7: But then.

452
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Speaker 4: That's not a three sume because it was one guy

453
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker 4: went and then another went. That's not a three.

454
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 7: But no, no, no, no, I was still like sucking dick

455
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 7: and like getting it in the back.

456
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 1: At the same time.

457
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 5: Penetration. There was definitely like two holes still one time.

458
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 5: Maybe it's great exercise.

459
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 3: I'll tell you. It's like I had to work out

460
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 3: so much tiring.

461
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 5: I got it over my mouth.

462
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, I gotta squeeze my vagina, thanks so much at

463
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 7: a lot of work.

464
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got squeeze with one guy.

465
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: Do y'all do that? Kid?

466
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Speaker 5: Do you squeeze? Do you think about that?

467
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, I gotta remind myself though.

468
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 3: Let's all do them now, right?

469
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

470
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, okay, ten seconds one.

471
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: She's really focus. I am six.

472
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Speaker 3: Okay. So you had just said that this is the

473
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Speaker 3: best what I This is the advice I give to

474
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Speaker 3: everyone that just jumps onto only fans. First of all,

475
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 3: I've been on since twenty seventeen. I use it as

476
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 3: my library for my my whatever. I own my content,

477
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 3: a lot of content that I bought back from companies

478
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 3: that were folding when the Internet started popping and they

479
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 3: were like, everyone's going to steal our content. We're already rich,

480
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 3: We're done. I was like, I'll buy all my ship

481
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 3: back from you. So I own a lot of scenes,

482
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 3: So I do a library, and then I'll I'll do

483
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 3: a stream once a month to keep engaged with my fans.

484
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 10: Live, I strip tease, I do a solo masturbation, I talk.

485
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 3: To them, and then once a week I do and

486
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 3: ask me anything where I'm fully dressed and I get

487
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 3: I help them with dating, how to approach a woman,

488
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 3: trying to make them get off the internet and get up.

489
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 3: But what I tell everyone when they're new is if

490
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 3: you could give yourself a number that once you reach

491
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: that number and put that money aside as money you're

492
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 3: not going to touch. Even if you start a new business,

493
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 3: that's not going to fund that business. You can always

494
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 3: continue to utilize your only fans to fund your next business,

495
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: which a lot of people are doing, which is fascinating

496
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 3: because it's a great way to not put as much

497
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 3: pressure on yourself. But you cannot step aside knowing that

498
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 3: these images are going to be out there forever without

499
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 3: saying this was my fucking goal. I made it. It's

500
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 3: the bank. It's setting me up forever, fuck everybody, and

501
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 3: you kind of have to do that.

502
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Speaker 5: That's that's where I feel like I am right now.

503
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 5: I feel like I've reached.

504
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 3: It's like okay, like you'veted.

505
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 5: Well over a million, okay, but have you saved a million?

506
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 5: And I haven't saved a million. I would've made a million,

507
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 5: and I'm.

508
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 7: Just like, Okay, this doesn't excite me anymore.

509
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.

510
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 3: Listen, when you get old, you know, it's like away

511
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 3: new guys.

512
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 5: New guys always excite me. Okay, what even a new guy?

513
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: Like dating a new guy like not even sex with

514
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: not even dating.

515
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're so sex like you on your only fans.

516
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 7: I'm kind of like a guy in a way, Like mentally,

517
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 7: it's like the new ship like.

518
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: Fucking you know how guys out there be like nothing like.

519
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 5: Literally, okay, I've been getting like the same.

520
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 6: There's naive for a minute.

521
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 7: I've been getting sing dick for a minute, and it's

522
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 7: like okay, like I want somebody to like literally.

523
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 5: Fuck my heels off, okay.

524
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 3: Like literally for you dating with an OnlyFans page, Because

525
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: I mean I'm Alcolm. People ask me this question, I'm like, right.

526
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: And everybody knows who.

527
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 5: As far as like intimacy, yes.

528
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 3: And I mean for them because men get insecure because options.

529
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 5: No, of course intimacy. Yes, you get what I'm saying.

530
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 7: It's like, there's so many guys in my dms, like

531
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,239
Speaker 7: how much can I fuck you?

532
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 5: Whatever?

533
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 7: It's like, but are you going to give me what

534
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 7: I want? Are you going to make me feel like

535
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 7: I'm loved in that moment? I don't want you to

536
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 7: actually love me.

537
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 5: Do you get what I'm saying. I don't need that.

538
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 7: I can, don't worry about that, you know, but when

539
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 7: you fuck me, I wanted to feel like there's something special.

540
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 5: Passion.

541
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: So you're not feeling the passion. You're not feeling the

542
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 3: passion for your bread winning only fans. I feel like

543
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: you're bored at work. You are at work. That's all

544
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 3: the same.

545
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 5: Literally literally literally, So it's like, I don't know.

546
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 2: When it's something guy. A new guy doesn't bore her

547
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: there literally.

548
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 3: But but she wants something new work wise.

549
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: To yes, you like being single.

550
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 7: I do like being single, but at the same time,

551
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 7: it's like I'm a Gemini to.

552
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 6: Wow, Yes, okay, side exactly where I'm coming from.

553
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: You want that.

554
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: I want that excitement on the other.

555
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: To different people.

556
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, so personalities exactly.

557
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 7: It's like, Okay, I do want a man that's going

558
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 7: to be soft with me, be a teddy bear and.

559
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 5: Be that like you feel that shill and it's like

560
00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 5: that you stop with him.

561
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 7: Though, yes, okay, I'm definitely soft, Like I can be soft,

562
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 7: but with a new man, it's like I'm about to

563
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 7: fuck your world up.

564
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: It's a control thing, it feels, I.

565
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 5: Think that's what it is.

566
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 7: And it's like, you know, I don't want to bring

567
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 7: the mood down or anything like that, but.

568
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 5: Like I've been you know, sexually abused.

569
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 7: More than I can count in the past, you know,

570
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 7: And so it's like I kind of get satisfaction out of.

571
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 5: Being in control. Do you get what I'm saying.

572
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 7: So when I feel like, oh, yeah, like he's never

573
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 7: had a bad bitch or like yeah, I'm about to

574
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 7: show him something he's never seen before, like it gives

575
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 7: me that sense of power and it's like, I don't know,

576
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 7: it's just different.

577
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 5: It's different.

578
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 4: Kaya do you have you ever been intobody that you

579
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 4: felt like safe and secure with?

580
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have been I have been.

581
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 7: In the end, I didn't, but in the majority of

582
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 7: the relationship, I definitely feel felt safe and secure. So

583
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 7: I opened myself up and gave myself to him in

584
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 7: ways that I wouldn't give, you know, to other men.

585
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 5: And you know so, but.

586
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 3: It's no great following up question.

587
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 5: I can't lie. I did love him in a way

588
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 5: I can say I have love for him. Okay, am

589
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 5: I in love with him?

590
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: No?

591
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 5: But I did have love for him, which is why

592
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 5: I did the three in the first place.

593
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 7: You get what I'm saying, because I never would have

594
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 7: had sex with that guy, the other guy that he

595
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 7: you know him, which was his cousin in.

596
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what wasn't.

597
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 3: Really we're almost getting in incest right here.

598
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 5: This is as far as I know.

599
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: You know, that's crazy.

600
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 7: So as far as I know, like, it was just like, okay,

601
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 7: like I get satisfaction after like you know, off of

602
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 7: sea and her get hit from the back, and then

603
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 7: you know, I want my cousin to get some from

604
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 7: his standpoint, from.

605
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 5: His get right now. So I was like, okay, fuck it,

606
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 5: let's do it. I was drunk, I was high. It's like,

607
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 5: fuck it, let's do it. Did it, and I was like,

608
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 5: I didn't even want to fuck you, Like.

609
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: I would have never done that, Never would have done that.

610
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 4: Do you fact you have to be drunk and high

611
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: a lot of times when you were performing.

612
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 7: We definitely like when I when I do perform, when

613
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 7: I make content, I definitely like take a couple of shots.

614
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 5: To see this.

615
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 7: But this is the problem that's different for me, Like

616
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 7: a blunt is like a cigarette, Okay, you know, like

617
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 7: when you get to that, I've been smoking since I

618
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 7: was twelve. That's thirteen years for me. That shit is

619
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 7: not going to hit me the same as when I

620
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 7: first you get what I'm saying.

621
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 5: So I definitely need to smoke.

622
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 7: But as far as drinking, I don't drink often, and

623
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 7: when I do feel like I need to perform extra

624
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 7: or to like make an aesthetic appeal in a way,

625
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 7: you know, Like I feel like I definitely have to

626
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 7: take a couple of shots to like loosen up and

627
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 7: get in the get on the zone.

628
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 10: I feel like I don't do poor, but I feel

629
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 10: like I enjoy sex better if I have a shot before.

630
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: But it's different gets set for a smaller environment, like

631
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: only fans. I could see that because it's more intimate.

632
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: You're in your home. But like for us on set,

633
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: we're asked on camera, are you under the influence or

634
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: any drugs?

635
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: They don't want to.

636
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 5: Clear head.

637
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you kind of want to be because you

638
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: are in someone's home. You do the whole crew that's

639
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: relying on you for their paycheck, and so if you're

640
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: a smart person. But don't get me wrong, i'd been

641
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: in the dress. I never drank on set, and I

642
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: never I would have a little bit of jmail when

643
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: I was doing anal and a gang bang, no doubt,

644
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: But on the road, never drank because I was in

645
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: these clubs. But I remember sitting in the big up

646
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: room and seeing girls like pull bottles of Bacardi Warm

647
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: out of their bag and.

648
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: Just chug it.

649
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: And I used to say to them, like, if you

650
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: have to do this at eight o'clock in the morning

651
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: on a Tuesday to do this scene, you shouldn't be

652
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: doing the scene.

653
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: That would be me. I have to be not present, probably, But.

654
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: It was scary for us because you don't know if

655
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: the guy's hurting her. You don't know if she's tearing inside.

656
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: In real life, if you're like that and a guy

657
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: has sex with you, that's a crime.

658
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: It is, and you know a lot of the male

659
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: performers have a hard time with it. I agree with you.

660
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: They get uncomfortable because I feel like I'm taking advantage

661
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: of her. She's not present.

662
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 5: I personally have anxiety. But for home.

663
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: Content, I can see.

664
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 7: That's like whether I was filming at home or filming

665
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 7: on a set, it's like I need something to.

666
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 5: Calm my nerves. Whether it's a blunt, whether it's liquor,

667
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 5: you get what I'm saying.

668
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 7: So it's just like, yeah, that might be, you know,

669
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 7: the status quo, like for everybody else, but for me,

670
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Speaker 7: it's like.

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Speaker 5: Okay to do this and just calm down, just breathe,

672
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Speaker 5: watch perform and look good. Oh yeah, i'ma suck the

673
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Speaker 5: fun out.

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Speaker 7: Of the But like like like you have to mentally

675
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Speaker 7: prepare yourself. Like some people they're naturally born like you

676
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Speaker 7: like with they.

677
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: To just be like like, deal is in front of me.

678
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Speaker 6: That's a big day for me.

679
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 4: It's like that's a big one. You might have to

680
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: have a couple of no problem, no problem at all.

681
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Speaker 2: I'm not lack with big dicks. I just can I

682
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Speaker 2: don't I don't like it.

683
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not gonna lie. I agree with you.

684
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: It's just it's not for everyone. It's all out the curve,

685
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: and some women have a curve that really makes them

686
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: feel uncomfortable. And there's some women that say they could

687
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: take a bigger dick in their ass than regular sex.

688
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: Like everybody has a different.

689
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Speaker 5: Men don't know that anything.

690
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 7: A uterus not only does the curve left to right,

691
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 7: it curves front to back.

692
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: And everybody's just shifted a little bit.

693
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 7: Literally, So it's like you don't know what type of

694
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 7: what type of dick you like until you've experienced it all.

695
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: You know, I've had orgasms with a medium size because

696
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: I hit your.

697
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: G spot medium and there's no and you're not uncomfortable

698
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: because when you're relaxed because it's not too big and

699
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: it does hit your G spot, you're gonna have a

700
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: much better orehouse.

701
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: But you're like big ones.

702
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: I mean said, Look, I produced a lot of my

703
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: own movies. I didn't want to shoot a movie with

704
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: a small cock. It doesn't light well, it doesn't look good,

705
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: it doesn't I want a girl that has a nice

706
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: big booty, and she's gonna have to open up the

707
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: whole time because that little cock is gonna get lost,

708
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: you know, that is the value. I don't want to

709
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Speaker 3: race car driver that drive.

710
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: I do some people have little dick fetishes, like.

711
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: I guess they do. I'm sorry that I did not care.

712
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 7: Women nowadays are starting to become like I don't like

713
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 7: a big dick, Like I feel like a lot of

714
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 7: women are starting to become like that.

715
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Speaker 3: I don't know about something like.

716
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Speaker 8: That as well, because like a big, big we call

717
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Speaker 8: ourselves museum dick.

718
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Speaker 1: Yes, a museum dick's great to look at.

719
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Speaker 2: Yeah, literally literally I look at these perfect sense. But listen,

720
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Speaker 2: I deal with one now. It's it's a lot with

721
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Speaker 2: more work.

722
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Speaker 12: Definitely, rather that you're trying to deep throat it and

723
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 12: it's a lot you're throwing.

724
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Speaker 1: I'm like I said, it is, it's a lot of

725
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Speaker 1: It's a.

726
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Speaker 3: Great time to work your core, you know, you get

727
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Speaker 3: that rhythm out your head. Squads.

728
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Speaker 11: Nice size, But I agree with with Jasmine, I like,

729
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 11: if it's too big, it's like and then and then

730
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 11: I found that men who are larger are the asshole.

731
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: You know why, you know what? They know they can

732
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: get whatever they want, will go crazy.

733
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Speaker 11: Big energy, and I think big dick energy is like

734
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 11: it comes with like big ego.

735
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Speaker 1: Don't think disrespect of course, it's like.

736
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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie. The little the smaller guys.

737
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Speaker 1: They're so sweet.

738
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 5: They're so sweet.

739
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: They definitely give the head.

740
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Speaker 1: You know what they have. They got to make up

741
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: for you.

742
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: They have many many years ago, I was asked a

743
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Speaker 3: male bag question and a kid asked, like, what do

744
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 3: I do? I'm a teenager? What do I do? Have

745
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 3: a really small cough? And I said, you know what

746
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: you do? You go to college, you become a plastic surgeon,

747
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: and you are going to still marry a hot bitch.

748
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 3: Years later, this kid comes up to me at an

749
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: Exotica at my booth and says, I became a plastic Wow, beautiful,

750
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: that's amazing doing a small dick. You must study and

751
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: you must do things with your life because you can

752
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: still be a big dick with a big wallet.

753
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: Small dicks can do big things.

754
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 7: Right.

755
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: Literally, there you go.

756
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: That's hilarious, larious.

757
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 4: Lisa, And now I want you to talk to Kaya

758
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 4: also about the pivot that you've been able to make,

759
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 4: because she's trying to figure out what's next, right and

760
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 4: how hard was it for you to go from you know,

761
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 4: I know you took a break for a period of

762
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 4: time from the porn industry, but how hard was it

763
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 4: for you to actually move into a space where you're

764
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 4: very well respected.

765
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Speaker 3: I was just about to ask that it is hard,

766
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 3: and you have to be mentally prepared for it because

767
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: what ends up coming out it is really the outside

768
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: noise is very loud, and I can remember the first

769
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: year of doing sports radia. First of all, you also

770
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: have to be prepared that you're not going to make

771
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: fast money. So for me, it was like, reach this target,

772
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: have this much money in the bank. If I don't

773
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 3: make shit for my next couple of years, I'm good

774
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: because I'm gonna be building myself up. It's like starting

775
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: a new career, right. It's the social media people. They

776
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: were so fucking mean and relentless of any time I'd

777
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: say something sports related. You were better when you had

778
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: a dick in your ass. You were better when you

779
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 3: were doing this, and it was so constant. It gave

780
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: me a thick skin. There were days that were more

781
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: emotional than others, and there were definitely times where I

782
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 3: was like I ended up hiring somebody and I and

783
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: to help me with social to help me not look

784
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: at much. And I was like, you know what, I'm

785
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 3: going to pay somebody to do this and just delete

786
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: these comments and allow me to still go on and

787
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: feel good about myself and engage with the right community.

788
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 3: Because now you're building a new community, which is five

789
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: percent of your interactions on social and you got to

790
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: dig deep to get their five nice comments right through

791
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: all this other. So there's gonna be a lot of naysayers,

792
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: and there's gonna be days where it just feels awful.

793
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 3: People called my radio show and would say horrible things

794
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 3: to my producer. They would get through and say why

795
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: did serious XM hire such a fucking whoror.

796
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 5: Like it was.

797
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 3: And also I had fans that were so angry that

798
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: I left that they were almost trying to force me

799
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: back in. Yeah, And so you just have to know

800
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: who your friends are in this, in your in your core,

801
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 3: your people that love you no matter what, and you're

802
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: gonna have to lean on them a lot, and you're

803
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 3: gonna have to have days where like, if you don't

804
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: feel like going on social media, then don't. If you're

805
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: not feeling mentally well, that day and you're because it's

806
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 3: very triggering and learned that and yeah, and it you've

807
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: grown up with it. It's your private, thin skin. But whenever

808
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: you venture into next, be prepared for that. And then

809
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 3: when you prepare yourself for that, like, okay, that's not amazing.

810
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Speaker 4: And you know what else I think helps you too,

811
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 4: also is that she's so well versed and what it

812
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 4: is that you do you know, And I think that

813
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: helps right because people could talk shit as much as

814
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 4: they want, but when you know your shit, you've been

815
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 4: working hard at it, then it's kind of like, say

816
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 4: what you want, but I know what the fuck I'm

817
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 4: talking about too exactly.

818
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 3: You know what is it you're passionate about?

819
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 5: Honestly, music, that's my biggest passion. Like I I record.

820
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 5: People don't know I record because I don't drop music

821
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 5: like that.

822
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 7: I have one song, one song out on Apple Music, Spotify,

823
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 7: all the network, all the you know stream.

824
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Speaker 1: Kaya just kayak, just kaya.

825
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 5: So I've dropped a song, but I haven't actually like

826
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 5: let people in. My study.

827
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 7: My struggle is letting people in because I've seen so

828
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 7: much of like how people let people in and it's

829
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 7: just like backfired on them and I'm like, oh my god,

830
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 7: like they're trying to actually be themselves and people are

831
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 7: shitting on them.

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Speaker 1: What's the name of the song.

833
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 7: It's called I Gotta Go Okay, and I dropped it

834
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 7: probably two years two three years ago.

835
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Speaker 3: And your only fans fans would be excited for you,

836
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 3: believe it or not.

837
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 5: Honestly, I have a lot of music fans.

838
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 3: They would be they want all the time.

839
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Speaker 7: And it's like, I'm just so scared because what I

840
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 7: actually put in my music, that's what I'm actually going

841
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 7: through and that's like what I'm that's what's going on

842
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 7: in my life. And it's like if I let you in,

843
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 7: what are you going to say about me?

844
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 5: Like what's gonna end up in the block?

845
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: Because it is very c it is it's.

846
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 7: Like you're literally speaking from your soul, your heart, you know,

847
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 7: and it's like you're just putting it all out there,

848
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 7: and it's like people are going to take you for

849
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 7: who you are and accept it and relate or they're

850
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Speaker 7: going to.

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Speaker 1: Be like, yeah, but you but you got you know,

852
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: because on the people who relate, like.

853
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: I said that five percent of your community, it's still

854
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: giving you love that those the people you get extra

855
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 3: close with and you're learning big to small. But you

856
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: know what, you remember those people and they introduce to

857
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: other friends because they share your stuff, and now you

858
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: start to build this like kinder community.

859
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Speaker 5: That's what I'm learning.

860
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Speaker 11: You're right and it and it feels like you're almost

861
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 11: afraid to fail, right like and almost like you're afraid

862
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 11: to fail. Everybody is right, it is up.

863
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Speaker 5: It's like a different Okay, I'll do porn, right.

864
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Speaker 7: I literally spread it open for everybody, right, you have

865
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Speaker 7: the short haircut.

866
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Speaker 10: And the I do all right, sorry, go ahead.

867
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Speaker 5: But okay, so I spread it open for everybody.

868
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 7: But it's not that's not my heart. That's me like

869
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 7: literally trying to appeal to you in a way.

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Speaker 5: You get what I'm saying. It's like, that's not who

871
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Speaker 5: I am.

872
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Speaker 1: Do you enjoy it? Do you enjoy doing porn?

873
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 5: I have and I do sometimes.

874
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Speaker 11: I was gonna say, there's a huge difference between just

875
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Speaker 11: sitting here listen to both of you talk about what

876
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 11: you do right, and I could feel like your energy

877
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 11: feels like you're not all the way in it, you know,

878
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 11: I feel like.

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00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 5: You actually wanted to do what you did. Oh totally

880
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 5: did literally you said, And that's the difference.

881
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So, but I also feel like, were you ever

882
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: at a time like how kaya is apprehensive now.

883
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 4: While you were in it, because I feel like you've

884
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 4: also come through on the other side of I've been

885
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 4: able to really like be super successful, put that behind

886
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: you know that you could do other things, but still

887
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 4: do that.

888
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I had many bouts with where

889
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: I was. But the difference was at sixteen, I wrote

890
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Speaker 3: a mission statement to myself. I wanted three things in

891
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 3: my life. And you said something downstairs earlier. You were

892
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: so shocked that I never wanted kids. Well, I had

893
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: a class. The teacher said, if you could nail down

894
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: three things that you want, all my girlfriends like, I

895
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: want to get married, I want to have kids at

896
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 3: a house whatever, and mine where I wanted to travel

897
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: and see the world. And I wanted to be financially independent,

898
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 3: and I wanted to make my own schedule. And so

899
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 3: from sixteen to eighteen, I was spending time thinking, well,

900
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: what kind of fucking job's gonna enable me these things?

901
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: And it was the perfect fit. So anytime I would

902
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: get down on not loving the moment that I was

903
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: in and what I was doing, I would think, but

904
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: this is fueling your dreams. You're getting to travel and

905
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: see the world, right, you are becoming financially independent.

906
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 5: You know.

907
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: I had these other things that would just be like

908
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: this sucks right now, but this is why you're.

909
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 5: Doing this going in the back.

910
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's important of those.

911
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: Well, Kaya, what would be your mission statement?

912
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 7: Honestly, my goal with this when I first started, it

913
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 7: was just to provide.

914
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, I had no means.

915
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 7: I had no identification, but didn't have that idea passport, nothing.

916
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 7: I didn't have anything at that time because me and

917
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 7: my baby's father was going through it and he ended

918
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 7: up you know, stealing, you know, robbing me of my identity.

919
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 5: And I was born in Germany, so it's a little

920
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 5: bit harder. It's an extensive process to get do you

921
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 5: get what I'm saying?

922
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 7: So I couldn't I couldn't obtain a legal job, do

923
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 7: you get what I'm saying? So I had to figure

924
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 7: out a way, literally figure out a way.

925
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 5: I couldn't even I couldn't.

926
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 7: Even work at my local strip club because I needed

927
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 7: an ID.

928
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,959
Speaker 3: To log in OnlyFans, right, So you did at that time.

929
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 5: That's why I was using Patreon.

930
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 3: Gotcha.

931
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 7: I used Patreon when I first started out, and that's

932
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 7: what made me my money until I was able to

933
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 7: get my I D again and I like discovered, I'm like,

934
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 7: I'm making all this money off Patreon. Like crippled you,

935
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 7: You definitely did.

936
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: I was only a great homework assignment is to think

937
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: about if you could pick three things, what would be

938
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: the three things that you'd like to see in your

939
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: life the most. It's it's a hard like I remember

940
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: that class. I think your help basically three things is

941
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: you thought about it for days. We had all this time,

942
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 3: We're all talking about it, and it was cute hearing

943
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: what everybody wanted. I'm from a small town in Pennsylvania.

944
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: This was pre internet, and it was very basic from Pennsylvania. Yeah,

945
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: but that's.

946
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 4: Part Easton by Allentown, Philly.

947
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 7: I am outside so you know, Okay, so I grew

948
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 7: up kind of in Philly, but I also grew up

949
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 7: in Brownsville in Union Town. You know that little lass city, right, Yeah, Okay,

950
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 7: so that's where I.

951
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: Was when they say Yan's.

952
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 3: Yep, it's just a thing. And that's and that really

953
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: stuck with me. And so this business was. It provided

954
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 3: me so many things, so I have to appreciate it.

955
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: And you know, I never wanted to be one of

956
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 3: those people that when I left, turned my back completely.

957
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 3: I want to go to Exotica's, I want to go

958
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: to Avian. I want to be present for all the

959
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 3: performers today, for them to see me and be like,

960
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 3: she's living a great life, She's good, you know what

961
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 3: I mean.

962
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 4: And there's so many people that will never reach the

963
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 4: level that you reach too, and you are on the

964
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 4: other side. Yeah, but you also at a certain level

965
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 4: within that industry too, because there are so many people

966
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 4: that do that, that do poorn and they like.

967
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: They may never they barely scratch the service, right.

968
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: It's consistency. It has to be consistent with what you do.

969
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 5: It's consistent. But it's also listening to your fans.

970
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 7: It's like, what do you when they when they react

971
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 7: to what it is that you put out, You're like,

972
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 7: what do they feed it into more?

973
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: We we didn't have reaction my first fifteen years in

974
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 3: the business, righteous because you were shot.

975
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: What about Yeah, you know what I mean.

976
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't work for the summer for three years

977
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: in my life when I first moved to California, I

978
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: had to live at the beach, and I said, I'm

979
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: doing all my work in the fall. I'm gonna live

980
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: like a teacher. I'm gonna take you. I know I

981
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: had and I lived on a little bit of money.

982
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 5: Who cared?

983
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: But rent was six hundred a month back then. I

984
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: still thought I was rich in California and like it

985
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 3: was simple. But you know, it was a vehicle for me,

986
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: and so I'm grateful for it, and I know want

987
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 3: to turn my back on it, and I don't, and

988
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 3: I don't think it hurt me. It is who I am.

989
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: And the responses of others. What I've learned is it's

990
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 3: not about you. It's about their relationship with what they're doing,

991
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: whether they feel guilty about being on your page because

992
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: they're in a relationship where they feel unsatisfied about their

993
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 3: own sexual lives. Now, when people say mean things.

994
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: To me, you know something wrong with them.

995
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: I usually I gave up trolling trolls last year for

996
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 3: New Year's Eve, but I've still two years. But before

997
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: that I would write back, I'm so sorry that nobody

998
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: will let you suck their deck.

999
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry you can't get money.

1000
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 3: But it took me time to understand that is not

1001
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 3: about you.

1002
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: No, it's not.

1003
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 3: It's not about you. It's about them and the relationship.

1004
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 4: Because why would they care so much about the decisions

1005
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 4: that you make in your life?

1006
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 11: Comment on you know, I told you it depends on

1007
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 11: the day. Right, certain days, I'm following you back like

1008
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 11: I and my mind.

1009
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: Can tell you to do my pussy.

1010
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 10: I mean it, Yes, I agree, But I want to

1011
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 10: know what are your fans like from you? Like what

1012
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 10: you said you have to listen to your fans. What

1013
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 10: kind of things do your fans like?

1014
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 5: Honestly, apparently I just got posted on the blogs. I

1015
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 5: didn't even know.

1016
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 7: My Hairstylis just told me, like yesterday when I went

1017
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 7: in to go see her, she was like, I saw

1018
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 7: you in the blogs and they were talking about the

1019
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 7: Twitter post that you posted because I had finally posted,

1020
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 7: finally posted a BWC video.

1021
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 5: What's that white guy? Oh? Okay?

1022
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 7: So I've always from the very jump, always been with

1023
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 7: black men. Okay, So I finally decided to venture out,

1024
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 7: you know, and you know, to appeal to a different audience,

1025
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 7: to gain a different audience.

1026
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 5: So you get what I'm saying.

1027
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 7: So I decided to, you know, post It's not the

1028
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 7: first time I've actually been with.

1029
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 5: The white guy.

1030
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 7: But you posted that guys plenty of times, but actually

1031
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 7: posting it and promoting it and trying to.

1032
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 5: You know, but they just Twitter was uproar.

1033
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 8: They they were so upset because my original fans were

1034
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 8: because I was always with black buying exactly.

1035
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 3: That's just everyone out there. If you're watching porn and

1036
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: you get in your feelings about it, I would like

1037
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: you to go for a wall, touch the grass, maybe

1038
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 3: make your bed, and I'm sure you have laundried.

1039
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 7: A lot of my followers feel like they're actually like

1040
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 7: they feel genuinely connected to me, and they feel like

1041
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 7: I'm there, is what you.

1042
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: Want it kind of I did.

1043
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lisa, And what was it like the first time

1044
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 4: you had sex with a black eye?

1045
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm a mad teenager.

1046
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: I was in high I was in you know, important important.

1047
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: Well. It's interesting, you know, my first two years in

1048
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 3: the business, I wasn't allowed to do interracial because in

1049
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 3: the nineties, the cable companies that were buying the contract

1050
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: if you were a contract girl, your movies were made

1051
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 3: for cable, and the cable companies didn't buy interracial. So

1052
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: the first two years in the business I was not allowed.

1053
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 3: And so when I went out on my own, the

1054
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: first thing I did was went company to company and

1055
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: I said, look, I got to shoot interracial. It's bullshit

1056
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: that I haven't been able to have my own choices

1057
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: out here. We're not going to do it. We're not

1058
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: going to do it. I did a movie that was

1059
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 3: like a B like apartment, had to pretend it was

1060
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: my first time, just to break the seal. And then

1061
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: I was fortunate enough to be able to be in

1062
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 3: these meetings with the cable buyers and talk about how

1063
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: important it was to showcase interracial films on all platforms,

1064
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 3: and so slowly but surely that gets changed. But from

1065
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: that point forward, I made it a mission to at

1066
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: least be seventy five percent interracial of all of my scenes,

1067
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 3: because so many agents and people in the business still

1068
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: lie and tell the white girls, if you do this,

1069
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: it'll ruin your career. You won't get dance bookings. So

1070
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: to me, it was like, I want to show all

1071
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: of you it will not do anything, and you should

1072
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 3: be doing what you want to do, not what somebody

1073
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: else wants you, not to do.

1074
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 11: What what year would you say that switch was over?

1075
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 3: Like they said it started like ninety six, ninety seven, okay,

1076
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: and it took you know, that's you know, that's a

1077
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: long time ago.

1078
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: But it's shockedrazy.

1079
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 3: It shocked me to get business eight Like you really

1080
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: sorry to be told that because I was like, wow,

1081
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: I didn't think I'd believing my small.

1082
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 4: Town crazy for you to have sex with a a

1083
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: black man and then for now, I wasn't even born

1084
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 4: today you having sex with a white white man makes

1085
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 4: people so angry.

1086
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 7: Literally, it's extreme controversy. Like I'm turning I turned my

1087
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 7: comments off. I'm like, I'm not doing this. I'm not

1088
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 7: doing this. I had to literally turn my comments off.

1089
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 7: I'm like, you guys are not going to bully me

1090
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 7: into doing what you want.

1091
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 5: Me to do. Do you get what I'm saying?

1092
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 7: Like I want to do this, this is what makes

1093
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 7: me happy.

1094
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 5: This is who I feel chemistry with. Do you get

1095
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 5: what I'm saying?

1096
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 7: And my only fans content is I want to say

1097
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 7: ninety eight percent of the time is organic. It's horm

1098
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 7: it's homemade, it's it's just very like it's in the moment,

1099
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 7: like oh, we're about to fuck. Oh babe, hold on,

1100
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 7: hold this, hold this, like you know what I'm saying,

1101
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 7: Like it's in the moment. So for people to tell me, oh.

1102
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 5: Like the ship that they said, you guys like what.

1103
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 7: They would be like, Oh my god, you fuck with

1104
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 7: pink dick now, Oh my god.

1105
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 3: I'm curious.

1106
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: I'm so curious on the interracial stuff.

1107
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 11: And I want to know from a business standpoint, did

1108
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 11: the interracial content perform differently around that time and today?

1109
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: What is like the still performs way better than most

1110
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 3: other content. And even then once it started to be

1111
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 3: something where remember when in the nineties we did all

1112
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: these adult bookstore signings and I would go to the

1113
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: adult bookstore and they would tell me, like, all of

1114
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 3: this is renting like crazy, but we still keep it

1115
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: all the way in the back. And I'm like, no,

1116
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna put all the Lisa and movies together, and

1117
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna put them together. It doesn't matter. But it did.

1118
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 3: It performed so much better. There's many reasons. I mean,

1119
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 3: I just think it's so beautiful. A shoot, you know,

1120
00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: I love nothing more than long, dark fingers on a girl,

1121
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, like the benit like that was what

1122
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 3: was this beautiful contrast is so artistically and it's just

1123
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 3: so different.

1124
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 11: You know.

1125
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: Well, I like black hands and black dick too, so.

1126
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 4: I love a black dick and Jack's been peeling at you, girl.

1127
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: I love the contrast.

1128
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: I've never been with the white guy neither.

1129
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 10: No, never need one thing that I this is awful

1130
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 10: to say. I just can't imagine having a pink dick

1131
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 10: in my mouth, all right, I can't.

1132
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: I can't imagine it.

1133
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: I've imagine i'd been.

1134
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 2: I can't imagine it's the pink in my mouth.

1135
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 7: Sexually, I've not been with two white guys in my

1136
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 7: whole life. I can't sexually, I've only been with two

1137
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 7: white guys in my whole entire life.

1138
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 5: How was it the first time?

1139
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 7: I was seventeen years old, he actually ended up proposing

1140
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 7: to me, and I was like.

1141
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: How old were you when you proposed?

1142
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 5: Seventeen?

1143
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: You were both seventeen.

1144
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: It's hard.

1145
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 7: I was seventeen and I was like, oh my god.

1146
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 7: But in the back of my head, I'm like, oh no,

1147
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 7: he must be crazy. We've only been talking for like

1148
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 7: three weeks, you know. But that was the first, at

1149
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 7: seventeen years old that was the first white dick I've

1150
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 7: ever had in my life.

1151
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 5: And we fucked. We went to like this power plant

1152
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 5: or something.

1153
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 6: Power plant, Yes, we would power like a power plant.

1154
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 5: And it was just like we were sitting out there

1155
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 5: in his car. I think he was like in a Toyota.

1156
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 7: Or something a little and we had sex in the

1157
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 7: back of this and he had like maybe seven and

1158
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 7: a half eight inches and I was just like, oh.

1159
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 5: Oh my god. I don't know white guys could do it.

1160
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 1: It's your virginity.

1161
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 5: I lost my virginity at a very long, very young

1162
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 5: age and.

1163
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 1: Not a good experience.

1164
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not a good experience.

1165
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 7: It wasn't consensual, right, So but I lost my virginity

1166
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 7: consensually at fifteen years old. So yeah, when I met

1167
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 7: him at seventeen, I was just like, oh my god, like.

1168
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 5: This is the biggest dick I've ever had, and you're

1169
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 5: a white guy. Like, oh, let me say this.

1170
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 3: When I first got to California, one of the first

1171
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: things I want to do when I had what I

1172
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 3: considered money was see a therapist because I wanted to

1173
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 3: reinvent my life. Didn't have a great family, just wanted

1174
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: to learn and I want to learn why I was

1175
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 3: so drawn to this, and for many of us who

1176
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 3: have been sexually abused, we were younger. When something is

1177
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 3: taken from you and you don't have the choice to

1178
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,959
Speaker 3: offer it, you lose value for it. So it does

1179
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 3: make it easier for us to exist in this space,

1180
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: whereas my friends that didn't go through something to them,

1181
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 3: it would just be crazy to even be naked on

1182
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 3: stage at a strip club, Like if they would tell me,

1183
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 3: if you can do this, you should do this, because

1184
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 3: we could do this. So it is very common and

1185
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 3: I did. I did three years of therapy to really

1186
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 3: understand myself to make sure I wasn't making reckless decisions

1187
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: to plot and plan my life as purposefully as I

1188
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 3: could in my early twenties. But it really helped me

1189
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 3: identify with that because I was curious when I got

1190
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 3: into the industry how many women had similar stories. I

1191
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: was like, there has to be a reason why this

1192
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: becomes the melting pot. And that's really the reason.

1193
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 5: Therapy. I've never done therapy. It's so have been recommended,

1194
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 5: it's so helpful.

1195
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 2: Girl, you need to go to therapy.

1196
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 5: It's so kind of like, I'm just very apprehensive about it.

1197
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 5: I'm very like stand offish about it.

1198
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: It's very you'll really get to know.

1199
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what.

1200
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 7: I don't know because I don't want to go to

1201
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 7: a therapist that's like textbook. I want somebody that's actually recommendation.

1202
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 3: Interview till you find somebody you job with looking like

1203
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 3: your accountant, I'm pretty prettre.

1204
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 11: I think it's more so, you know, don't don't think

1205
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 11: of therapy right as just the traditional like you sitting

1206
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 11: across from a doctor, and therapy can come from so

1207
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 11: many different places and that's where.

1208
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 5: I find it.

1209
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 7: So when people ask me, have I've been to therapy,

1210
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 7: I have not been to professional therapy, but I've had

1211
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 7: I feel like the right people in my life to

1212
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 7: kind of guide me and soothe and heal certain wounds,

1213
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 7: you know, And I feel.

1214
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 5: Like I'll tell you.

1215
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 3: I'll tell you all the stupid shit I was doing.

1216
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 3: And one of the first things my therapist said my

1217
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 3: first month was here's your project. You have to meet

1218
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 3: five guys that you're gonna be friends with that you're

1219
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 3: never gonna have sucks, because at that time, as a teenager,

1220
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 3: I was just flipping through guys and that was amal

1221
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 3: and thatged my relationship with men, because if you're gonna

1222
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: be friends, you actually have to think they're decent people.

1223
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 3: You get to know them, you get to hear them

1224
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: talking about women they're dating and how they want to

1225
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 3: treat them, and you get a new view. And it

1226
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 3: was it was just all these little assignments that crazy.

1227
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 4: I will say this, I've always felt like men who

1228
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 4: don't have women friends can't be trusted because if you

1229
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 4: only look at women as sexual objects or like, I

1230
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 4: can't just be friends with you.

1231
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: That's an issue.

1232
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 4: Like I've always had guy friends that I've never had

1233
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 4: any attraction to.

1234
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: They've never.

1235
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 4: And so I feel like that's a valuable thing, and

1236
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 4: I think that men should be able to do that

1237
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 4: as well.

1238
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: Do you have five guy friends that not five?

1239
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 8: Few?

1240
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 5: Okay, two or three?

1241
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 7: I have two or three maybe that you know, I've

1242
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 7: never had sex with that I can literally call, and

1243
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 7: that I've literally cuddled with in bed, like we've spooned,

1244
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 7: but it's never gone past that.

1245
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 11: But they can't want to have Yeah, I can't even

1246
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 11: think about it.

1247
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 7: It's like, Okay, we've been drinking and smoking all night,

1248
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 7: we went out, had a good night and it's like, Okay,

1249
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 7: you're a guy and you're here in my space.

1250
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 3: No, your friend goes home.

1251
00:57:59,360 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 5: The count.

1252
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 7: To me, it's like, okay, if you're here, fucking hold me,

1253
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 7: do something. Don't like I don't want to feel that

1254
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 7: distance that like I don't know, it just like does

1255
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 7: something to me. Like if I feel connected to somebody

1256
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 7: and I'm not touching them in a way or to them.

1257
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, with the focus.

1258
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 4: My guy friends, I would be disgusted at the idea

1259
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 4: of cindly the guy friends I have to it would

1260
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 4: be like cuddling with your brother.

1261
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 11: I think that's a different Those five guy friends are different.

1262
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 4: You could never see me, I would understand what.

1263
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 5: See.

1264
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 7: I never had somebody that like was a friend to

1265
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 7: me that I didn't feel like I needed.

1266
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1267
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 7: Maybe touch is just my thing, you know, Like touch

1268
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 7: just might be my thing where I'm like, okay, we

1269
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 7: need to be touching in a way. I don't care

1270
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 7: if we're holding hands when we go to sleep.

1271
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 5: Do you just touch me?

1272
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: You have siblings?

1273
00:58:58,560 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: Do you have a brother?

1274
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 7: I do, But I'm not as close with my siblings

1275
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 7: as I like to be, you know, just.

1276
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 5: Because of like the route that I've gone, I've chose.

1277
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,959
Speaker 1: So your family has issues with.

1278
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 5: This, they don't anymore.

1279
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 7: They did in the beginning, but they've kind of evolved

1280
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 7: with time, and it's like, Okay, like, this is who

1281
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 7: she is, and if you know this is who she is,

1282
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 7: I'm either going to love her.

1283
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 5: I'm not for.

1284
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 7: Who she is, not what it is that she does.

1285
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 7: Do you get what I'm saying? Like this is she

1286
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 7: doesn't ask us for anything. If anything, she sends us money,

1287
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 7: she helps us.

1288
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 4: So that helps a lot exactly exactly.

1289
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 7: We're gonna accept who she is at her core or

1290
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 7: we're not, Like and what I do for my.

1291
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 5: Job is not who I am. And that's like one

1292
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 5: of the biggest things that I'm like trying to put

1293
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 5: out there.

1294
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 7: Like you guys, a lot of guys have this, you know,

1295
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 7: perception that porn stars.

1296
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: Aren't real people have If they say to you in

1297
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:05,959
Speaker 3: the d M, I explained to them that we don't

1298
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 3: align and I refend them money and block thems. I

1299
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 3: don't want members of my page that are disrespectful kind

1300
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 3: and I want this to be exclusive. This is my club.

1301
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 7: You have guys that literally like I don't meet up

1302
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 7: with guys. I don't have sex with guys for money,

1303
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 7: you know whatever. But they'll d M me and be like,

1304
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 7: you know, can I book you. I'll take their money because.

1305
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 5: I have it, have it in my bio. No meets no.

1306
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 5: You get what I'm saying. You're never gonna see me

1307
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 5: in person. You might see me behind it phone.

1308
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 3: Report them to only fans because that goes against the

1309
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 3: policy of the page. I don't want to.

1310
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 7: Have you.

1311
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: Meeting somebody in real life that follows you.

1312
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: I don't think, so, okay, that's not.

1313
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 3: Bad ones, but you know, it's just it's gonna happen,

1314
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 3: and there's an assumption. And even when they come to

1315
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: trade shows or whatever, there's an assumption. People know me

1316
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 3: well enough by now. I'm pretty blunt about it. I'm

1317
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 3: pretty honest. But even dating can be difficult because a

1318
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 3: guy made assume. I went on a date with the

1319
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 3: comedian a couple of like five years ago, and we

1320
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 3: only went on a one date, and I was going

1321
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 3: away and I was going to the mountains with my family,

1322
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 3: and I wasn't gonna have service, so I didn't answer

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Speaker 3: the phone for like four days. This fucking guy left

1324
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 3: me an email a thread about how disappointed he was.

1325
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,479
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe I didn't fuck him like he must

1326
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 3: have just thought. And I didn't feel him that way.

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01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 3: And that's I don't let the fuck around. I got

1328
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 3: on a first date, but that let me know I

1329
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 3: did the right thing. He had those expects They do

1330
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 3: have expectations, So you just have to temper those expectations.

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01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 3: And you know, one thing is one thing, one thing

1332
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Speaker 3: is another.

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Speaker 1: Do you like women? She does a whole thing.

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01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 5: I like women in a way. I had some liquor

1335
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 5: in my system.

1336
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 7: I love but when I'm so away, like cute, but okay,

1337
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 7: she likes living a part time there.

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01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 4: There you go, dimble and dabble. Yeah, but you couldn't

1339
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 4: see yourself with a woman.

1340
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 5: I used to.

1341
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 7: I used to after you know, growing up, when you've

1342
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 7: had you know, those sexual experiences where you're not in control,

1343
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 7: you begin to look at you know, Okay, what's gonna

1344
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 7: relate to me the closest, what's gonna comfort me.

1345
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 5: More, what's gonna make it maybe stay safe? Exactly?

1346
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 7: So I definitely gravitated towards women when I was younger,

1347
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 7: in like my high school days, I had a bad

1348
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 7: experience and that kind of just turned me so sour.

1349
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 7: Like I I was talking to this girl when I

1350
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 7: was in high school for like years and I finally

1351
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 7: went to go see her and we ended up having sex,

1352
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 7: and like she wanted to eat my pussy.

1353
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 5: She wanted to figure me this dady her.

1354
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 7: But when I tried to go do the same, it

1355
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 7: was like she was very hesitant, and like when I

1356
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 7: finally did, like you know, you know you're you're fucking around,

1357
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 7: like I'm teasing her like fingers finally go in, the

1358
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 7: smells just not right, okay.

1359
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 5: Like you don't fuck any niggas. You don't got right,

1360
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 5: do you?

1361
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 3: Guys?

1362
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 5: So how do you? How was this?

1363
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 7: How is your pH off? There wasn't a guy in you,

1364
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 7: so what did you do to cause your pH to

1365
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 7: be off? It made me begin to question.

1366
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 5: Like who she was and all these other things. But

1367
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 5: like it just really put a bad taste.

1368
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Speaker 1: It didn't turn out literally literally.

1369
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 7: No, I didn't taste it, okay, but no, definitely a

1370
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 7: bad taste in you know you don't.

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01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 2: Like women because a man don't have a bad bad

1372
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 2: I still.

1373
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 6: I was in love with what was going on with her.

1374
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 7: I didn't find it I never found out, and she

1375
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 7: actually messaged me like a few months ago. It's crazy,

1376
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 7: She's like I got that fixed, Like no, no, she

1377
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 7: just like it was like nothing ever happened, Like she

1378
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 7: just messaged me.

1379
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: And it was just like so you never talked to

1380
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 2: her about it.

1381
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 7: Never, I've never bought it up to her, but I've

1382
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 7: definitely talked about it on social media.

1383
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 5: Knows that I don't think she's caught it.

1384
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 2: She might catch it now she caught it what it is,

1385
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 2: God bless her.

1386
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 5: But yeah, it just wasn't right.

1387
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 3: And you do girls on your only fans page.

1388
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 5: No, I've never had a girl and girl.

1389
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 3: If you make big money doing that, one girl I

1390
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 3: plan to do with.

1391
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 7: So I'm definitely yeah, I'm definitely collabing with girl.

1392
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: What made her special that you decided to do it?

1393
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 7: She's older from one and then two, Like I just

1394
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 7: it's energy for me, Like I just I feel like she's.

1395
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 5: The way she speaks.

1396
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 7: And she pres sense yourself on social media. It's just

1397
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 7: like okay, like she takes her health seriously. She's clean.

1398
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 7: I see she's clean. You get what I'm saying.

1399
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 3: Are you guys getting tested even though you're just kind

1400
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 3: of self regulating good.

1401
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 5: Of course, all the time, all the time.

1402
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 7: Every time I have sex, I go and get tested,

1403
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 7: whether I feel like I've been fucking with you for

1404
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 7: this long or whatever. It's like, Okay, if I'm in

1405
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 7: a relationship and I have a boyfriend, I'm like, okay,

1406
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 7: I might get tested like every you know, two or

1407
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 7: three weeks because I don't know what you're doing.

1408
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, And that's my boy and he's getting

1409
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: tested too.

1410
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 5: That's my boyfriend. Okay, I don't know if he's getting

1411
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 5: tested or not, because I.

1412
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: Make sure IEM make sure you see his test.

1413
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 7: Also, I make sure in the beginning, I definitely make

1414
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 7: sure I see the test. But like, if we're in

1415
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 7: a relationship, I make sure I'm okay.

1416
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 12: You know.

1417
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna be like, oh, you need to go

1418
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 7: get tested every single month, Like I just feel like

1419
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 7: that's just too heavy on the relationship.

1420
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 5: It's like, I'm gonna make sure I'm okay.

1421
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: But see that. Guys in the same industry issue like

1422
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: would you want to know Okay.

1423
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 7: No, I've tried dating one guy that I've been in

1424
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 7: the industry with that we had greet chemistry.

1425
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 5: Everybody always talks about us. They always talk about, are

1426
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 5: you gonna do another video with him? No, I'm not. Okay,

1427
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 5: there's reasons, but he just wasn't my daye. It was

1428
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 5: wasn't my cup of tea.

1429
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: Even though there was chemistry, there.

1430
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 5: Was chemistry, it was great. But I dodged a bullet.

1431
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 7: And I've noticed I've done that a lot with a

1432
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 7: lot of people that I've messed with it in the past.

1433
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 7: When I decided to stop fucking with somebody, I've dodged

1434
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 7: a bullet. Some ship comes out about him, and I'm like,

1435
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 7: thank god, Oh my god. And he came out and

1436
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 7: he had like fucking seventeen girls like tatted on his body,

1437
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 7: his body with their body he had.

1438
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 5: Okay, they had seventeen different girls.

1439
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: That's wild.

1440
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, yeah, No, I definitely dodged a bullet.

1441
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: Girl, I'm like, no, was he an artist or something? No,

1442
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: just a regular, just.

1443
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 5: A big OnlyFans guy.

1444
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 4: Okay, right, Lisa, And you've also been on a great

1445
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 4: journey talking about health and wellness too, And I think

1446
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 4: that's important as we're having these conversations just to kind

1447
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 4: of wrap this up, but talk to us about that.

1448
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 3: I think it's really important. You know, we talk so

1449
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 3: much about mental health in the media. We put it

1450
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 3: out there, but what are we doing every day to

1451
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 3: make sure that word our best, that we're looking out

1452
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 3: for our friends and the people in our lives to

1453
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 3: make sure they're okay, And whether it's establishing a good

1454
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 3: morning routine that makes you wake up happy. Like I

1455
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 3: don't touch my phone for the first three hours I'm

1456
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 3: a week. I have another phone that has my Pandora

1457
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 3: for my music at the gym, you know, my little thing.

1458
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 3: I don't check email. I don't fuck with anybody because

1459
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 3: when I grew up, my parents got not one phone

1460
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 3: call at home from work. They went back to work

1461
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 3: the next day and that's where it happened. So I

1462
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 3: think having that time for you can really start your

1463
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 3: day in the right way, and then being able to

1464
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 3: look out for your people. When do you see somebody

1465
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 3: maybe dipping a little bit on social reach out text,

1466
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 3: don't leave a comment in the DM, text hey you good,

1467
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,919
Speaker 3: I haven't seen you in a minute, let's catch up.

1468
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 3: Since the pandemic, I've also been so much more connected

1469
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 3: with my friends, like done more facetimes and video calls

1470
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 3: than ever and we've kept this in our lives. And

1471
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 3: I will say, it is so good to have these

1472
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,879
Speaker 3: friendships that you've had for years that live in different places,

1473
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 3: and whether it's once a month or once a week,

1474
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 3: you hop on, you just catch up, but went on

1475
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 3: your life this week, These little escapes from all the

1476
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 3: stuff that's wearing us on the internet, the constant pressure

1477
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 3: did I post enough today? Do I look good enough today?

1478
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 3: You forget all of that when you're connecting with people

1479
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 3: that care about you and that you care about. And

1480
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 3: I just think it's so easy for us to take

1481
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 3: ourselves and make our lives as content because I think

1482
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 3: when you're older, content becomes valuable. When you're younger, you

1483
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 3: want everything to be amazing. No, I'm going content, That's

1484
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 3: what I'm learning. But take that time. And I think

1485
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 3: we all need to be aware of our own limits.

1486
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 3: If you're cranky one day, it is okay to not

1487
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 3: do shit if you can, you know, if it's a

1488
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 3: weekend you don't feel like, what are your makeup? It's

1489
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 3: okay to do that. I think it's that is it okay?

1490
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 3: We have to let it be okay. We have to

1491
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 3: connect with our people and start our days or end

1492
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 3: our days in a routine that really makes us feel happy.

1493
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 4: I love that, and that was a great way for

1494
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 4: us to kind of wrap this up. But you know,

1495
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 4: I do appreciate y'all both for coming out here. I

1496
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 4: like the synergy between the two of you because Kaya

1497
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 4: is trying to figure out her way, you know, to

1498
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 4: get to a different space.

1499
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, pivot, Yeah.

1500
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,560
Speaker 4: To pivot and Lisa and has I think more successfully

1501
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 4: than anybody.

1502
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1503
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 4: You know, pivoted And a lot of that is due to,

1504
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 4: like I said, the intelligence that you have, the capabilities,

1505
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 4: that you have the willingness to always learn and grow

1506
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 4: put But I love the fact that you told us

1507
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 4: how you were able to do it even though they

1508
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:49,520
Speaker 4: were naysayers.

1509
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and you've.

1510
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 5: Had inspiring as Yeah, I mean you turned that around.

1511
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 5: It's inspiring as fuck. I love it.

1512
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1513
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: So I think that's a me to see.

1514
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 4: And that's why Kaya, I think it's great for you

1515
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 4: to have been on here with her, because you're only

1516
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 4: twenty five years old right now.

1517
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: Baby, so you have girl, and you're gonna get it together.

1518
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 4: And I'm really hopeful that you decide to just go

1519
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 4: ahead and like be more open with posting your music

1520
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 4: and pursuing your goals because you can make it happen, definitely, And.

1521
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 3: We followed each other. Geez, you're gonna beat your questions

1522
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 3: and I'll put you in my FaceTime rotation and we'll

1523
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 3: sit and we'll chat it up.

1524
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 4: I love it all right, well, I love to see it, Kim.

1525
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, O Jasmine. I hope and listen. I hope

1526
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 4: this is the beginning of a friendship, like how we

1527
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 4: have our friendship, you know, on here, because I think

1528
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 4: it is so important that we all support each other.

1529
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 4: And Lisa and you cannot not come up here for

1530
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 4: that long of a time again.

1531
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 3: I'll be about to.

1532
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 4: Welcome at any time. We love you, okay, thank you

1533
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 4: so much.

1534
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: You guys. It's lip service.