Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal I'll that for me.
Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty.
Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to
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Speaker 2: Whoam and Dan and Tye welcome back to the Soliburbal
Speaker 2: Boys girls. My name is Ty hilden Brand joining me
Speaker 2: as always fine gentlemen. You know him and actually I
Speaker 2: see his face. What's up? He's in the same room
Speaker 2: as me, a gentleman named Dan Rubinstein.
Speaker 1: Ty, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I feel like I feel like we've
Speaker 2: recorded a lot in twenty seventeen in person. That's true,
Speaker 2: We're not used to this.
Speaker 1: No, we've recorded a good amount of person. This is
Speaker 1: the first time we're recording in this specific place. We
Speaker 1: are in the Estimanation lounge within the new Vox Media
Speaker 1: office space, so this is the first time we've recorded here.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on a very comfortable suede couch. You're in
Speaker 1: a large chair.
Speaker 2: This is the most comfortable I've ever been podcasting.
Speaker 1: Really, is that?
Speaker 2: And true story?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Usually when I podcast because I'm cheap, the spare bedroom
Speaker 2: in which I have all my gear I am sitting
Speaker 2: on solid wife's old keyboard stool. It does not have
Speaker 2: a bad You gotta be more comfortable. Horrible ergonomics. What
Speaker 2: are you doing with your life? So I'm in a chair,
Speaker 2: it's got a back ki.
Speaker 1: You are well in, You're dirty.
Speaker 2: The other half lived in.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm living great here right now. I'm
Speaker 1: life is good. So you were in New York. We
Speaker 1: were taking care of some business. But we are doing
Speaker 1: We have a themed episode right now. Yes, we are
Speaker 1: going to finally, I mean, it's not the Verbiy's, although
Speaker 1: I think we will get to the Verbies sooner than
Speaker 1: we did last year.
Speaker 2: At some point. Yeah, last year it was like May.
Speaker 2: It was it was deep into we push it off
Speaker 2: until May. We're yeah, that's not good. So we're gonna
Speaker 2: we're gonna try and get that out of the way.
Speaker 1: So sure, But what we're gonna do right now, and
Speaker 1: we've talked about doing this, we're gonna score the Fantasy
Speaker 1: Things draft that we had. Uh it was last summer,
Speaker 1: last July, I believe. Yeah, put together we eat drafted
Speaker 1: what like ten different items something around.
Speaker 2: The sheet in front of us here about ten issue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ten or eleven items each and we're going to
Speaker 1: score it out and figure out on a scale from
Speaker 1: one to five for each item, how strong each of
Speaker 1: these items performed for us or not so strong. So
Speaker 1: we're going to score that and we're going to figure
Speaker 1: out we're just going to get to the bottom of
Speaker 1: who is more accurate as for predicting college football things.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. So the genesis of the fantasy things.
Speaker 2: If you're picking it up, it's the off season. I
Speaker 2: want to listen to college football, but I don't know
Speaker 2: where I could listen to college but you just found
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: This was something basically that you and I did to
Speaker 2: kill time, yes, in the office, and because the people
Speaker 2: demand it, and because the people demand it of course now,
Speaker 2: but we did. This is the second year that we
Speaker 2: did it. And instead of drafting college football players like
Speaker 2: a fantasy team, I'm uncomfortable with that, you know, instead
Speaker 2: of doing something like that, we decided how about we
Speaker 2: put our own little spin on it. Draft storylines. Yes, right,
Speaker 2: so again the one I'll harken back narratives, as our
Speaker 2: friends in Long Island would tell you, Yeah, thank you, narratives.
Speaker 2: But to harken back to year one of fantasy things,
Speaker 2: I drafted Mike Gundy's hairline, yes, which at the time
Speaker 2: was a horrible selection.
Speaker 1: It was not great.
Speaker 2: If I had kept it through to this year, it
Speaker 2: would have been like Ladanian Tomlinson, it would have been
Speaker 2: to the point where it seemed weird that you were
Speaker 2: able to predict Mike Gundy's hair becoming a storyline. And
Speaker 2: I have this problem. Do you play fantasy sports anymore?
Speaker 1: Not anymore?
Speaker 2: No, I have this problem with fantasy sports. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: do it in football. I do it in baseball. I'm
Speaker 2: all in on the prospects. But like a year or
Speaker 2: two early. Okay, all right, so perhaps some of the
Speaker 2: ones that I drafted here, see I'm always looking pop
Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: My fantasy strategy used to be, I don't do it anymore.
Speaker 1: I want to find that Phil Rivers. I want to
Speaker 1: find that Paul Konerko, so like I would have drafted
Speaker 1: something with like Howard Stellenberger this year, that he would
Speaker 1: have come out, come back and made some sort of
Speaker 1: com Yeah. This was when you look at our teams.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of great pics that we made,
Speaker 1: but there's there's a lot of solid picks here, so
Speaker 1: we we're going to score this. We are going to
Speaker 1: just catch up on life. I think afterwards we had
Speaker 1: it's been a while since we've talked talking.
Speaker 2: We haven't heard hide Door hair for you since you
Speaker 2: went to Mexico.
Speaker 1: It's sure. I was in Mexico City in Houston before that.
Speaker 1: What do we do?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: We aired Adam Amean, we did our live show together,
Speaker 1: did we record?
Speaker 2: What do we do between that? I don't even remember
Speaker 2: what was our last show? I don't remember what I
Speaker 2: had for breakfast day? Okay, just making we did our
Speaker 2: live show, we aired a show that we did with
Speaker 2: Adam Aman.
Speaker 1: What do we do after that?
Speaker 2: Signing Day? I forget?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I was sick and in the middle of
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm perennially sick right now. I don't like
Speaker 1: this at all, But yeah, I did that the signing
Speaker 1: day show from the Houston Convention Center. So okay, I'm
Speaker 1: glad that we can just slow down, grade this out
Speaker 1: and just catch.
Speaker 2: Up the people demanded.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The other part of the Fantasy Things story that I
Speaker 2: did not tell was that we decided this year we
Speaker 2: were going to get serious about it. Absolutely because again
Speaker 2: we came up with this idea. We didn't know what
Speaker 2: it was going to be, very just trying to kill time.
Speaker 2: First year, we just figured out we'll keep track on it.
Speaker 2: Roughly speaking, I'm going to put any real tabulation behind it.
Speaker 2: This year, the people demanded a real scoring sheet, and
Speaker 2: we put one together. In fairness, I have a very
Speaker 2: sophisticated sheet here, and we kept sort of track of
Speaker 2: it through about half way ye season. It goes up
Speaker 2: to about halfway exactly, and then it trailed off and
Speaker 2: as conveniently enough, we were tied at nineteen nineteen. So
Speaker 2: now we're actually going to go fresh slate. Let's take
Speaker 2: a look at this and see what happened.
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about news after?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean Alabama's had three offensive coordinators in like
Speaker 1: three weeks, so there's that. But yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 1: So let's begin.
Speaker 2: We got ground to cover. We each picked ten different narratives.
Speaker 2: If you will, I will start with mine. This is
Speaker 2: an order of.
Speaker 1: Do you want to go back and forth? We want
Speaker 1: to go all through yours.
Speaker 2: Let's go back and forth. Okay, First, my first one
Speaker 2: was Tom Herman coaching rumors. This is my first pick
Speaker 2: such a strong pick. So if we're grading on a
Speaker 2: scale of one through five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, five being inescapable. Right everywhere you turn in college football,
Speaker 1: this thing is there, one being complete non factor.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to go four.
Speaker 1: I think that's right.
Speaker 2: Tom Herman coaching rumors because it was not something you
Speaker 2: could ever escape.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, so LSU fires their coach early. So there's
Speaker 1: that Texas has the rumors all year long that actually
Speaker 1: comes to fruition. Oregon looks like they're on the hot
Speaker 1: seat all year long, and he has the connection to
Speaker 1: the West Coast and the offense that Oregon runs. So
Speaker 1: there were I think throughout the season it was pretty
Speaker 1: persistent that Tom Herman was most likely going to end
Speaker 1: up somewhere big.
Speaker 2: I reserve the right to go back and amend this
Speaker 2: to a five if we go the full way through
Speaker 2: and we decide that maybe it should be bumped up
Speaker 2: to a five. The reason I say four is because
Speaker 2: the rumors sort of ceased being rumors about midway through
Speaker 2: the season. It was apparent that he was either going
Speaker 2: to go to LSU or Texas or some other big name.
Speaker 1: Even early on when people were doubting Clay Helton and
Speaker 1: his future at USC when they when they were one
Speaker 1: and three, and everybody assumed that they were going to
Speaker 1: be a huge bus hers from the LA area.
Speaker 2: You knew he was going to go somewhere. There was
Speaker 2: no need for rumors.
Speaker 1: I think four is right because I think in the
Speaker 1: middle pocket of the season, with the loss to SMU,
Speaker 1: with the lost to Navy, I think his sort of
Speaker 1: Q rating took a hit, and I don't think it
Speaker 1: was as persistent. So I think four is fair.
Speaker 2: All right, So I'm gonna I actually, I'm gonna keep
Speaker 2: track of it right in our spreadsheet here, okay, as
Speaker 2: I have four a four in yep, all right, So
Speaker 2: that that is you. Mm hm.
Speaker 1: So I took the weekly College Football ranking show as
Speaker 1: being a discussion point.
Speaker 2: In escapable, unescapable for the second.
Speaker 1: Half five and six weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely discussion point. Mm hmm. This was This was
Speaker 2: very much a Paul Canerico kind of pick. I think,
Speaker 2: so disserviceable.
Speaker 1: It was a well, it was a stronger year two
Speaker 1: because the discussions were more robust, I will say, because
Speaker 1: nobody quite understood what was happening with the logic involved,
Speaker 1: why why certain teams were as high as they were
Speaker 1: or not as high as they were. So I feel
Speaker 1: like this is in the three to four range.
Speaker 2: I would say three.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take the three.
Speaker 2: Three. Are we going just integers? Are we going to
Speaker 2: go decimals as well? No?
Speaker 1: I think we should just keep it into yeah, whole.
Speaker 2: Numbers, good and integer reference. Thank you?
Speaker 1: Y Yeah.
Speaker 2: So all right, I'm up four to three. Baby, why
Speaker 2: don't we bookend this crap?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Go ahead, you go again. Okay, that's a snake. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 1: So my number two pick appears to be Michigan State disrespect.
Speaker 2: Yes, so this is going to be a spirited debate
Speaker 2: disc So here's the question.
Speaker 1: I think you're right, it is going to be a debate.
Speaker 1: What do we define as disrespect? Because yes, I can
Speaker 1: make the argument Illinois football disrespected Michigan State this year.
Speaker 1: I can make the argument that the entire Big Ten
Speaker 1: disrespected Michigan State and did not respect their previous results.
Speaker 2: In state, disrespected Michigan.
Speaker 1: Michigan State disrespected Michigan States. But I think I have
Speaker 1: to be if I'm going to be one of the
Speaker 1: pillars of the Fantasy Things draft and league. Down between
Speaker 1: the two of us, the founding Father. I think I
Speaker 1: have to go with the spirit of this pick and
Speaker 1: the spirit of Michigan State disrespect is Michigan State being
Speaker 1: good but not being acknowledged rightfully, so not getting their deal.
Speaker 1: Michigan State after beating Notre Dame, everybody figured it was
Speaker 1: good at the very least was good. But then they're
Speaker 1: just immediate downfall sort of ended the possibility of disrespecting
Speaker 1: how good Michigan State was.
Speaker 2: This was a Ryan Leaf caliber bust right here, right.
Speaker 2: But we made this.
Speaker 1: I made this pick in July, so I had all
Speaker 1: of July and August of listening to Michigan and Ohio
Speaker 1: State exclusively correct. Was there a team in the Big
Speaker 1: Ten that was probably disrespected like Michigan State had been disrespected?
Speaker 2: I would argue Penn State was that team. Nobody believed
Speaker 2: in Penn State until it was too late. They kept
Speaker 2: winning and ultimately they won the conference.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I believe I believe that Michigan State disrespect
Speaker 1: was handed to Penn State. I'm going to say Michigan
Speaker 1: State disrespect because of July and August and because of
Speaker 1: early on in the season.
Speaker 2: I will say two. Two feels about right. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: looking at our score sheet here. Yeah, so keep in mind,
Speaker 2: this wasn't like a normal season. We did this what
Speaker 2: first week of July ish, from the eleventh of July,
Speaker 2: excuse me, through Christmas time is what I have on
Speaker 2: the sheet here. From July through the the third week
Speaker 2: of September, there were only three weeks where we did
Speaker 2: not tick a market award.
Speaker 1: Michigan State disrespect.
Speaker 2: Okay, so early early on it seemed as if you
Speaker 2: were gonna be really rollinated here, right, I would contend
Speaker 2: to my earlier point. Yeah, Michigan State disrespect could be
Speaker 2: a hell of a pick for this coming season.
Speaker 1: That's where, Yeah, because you built.
Speaker 2: In a year or two early, they might have had
Speaker 2: that off year.
Speaker 1: There's so much organic disrespect that's been built up with
Speaker 1: Michigan State. It's a really good year to get out.
Speaker 1: They started to and now they beat Furman and they
Speaker 1: beat Notre Dame and they're ranked and then they lose one, two, three, four, five, six,
Speaker 1: seven straight games.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Do you know how many non Rutgers Big Ten wins
Speaker 1: they had this year? It would be zero point zero,
Speaker 1: zero point zero. So what a bad year? Sorry sparty,
Speaker 1: All right, all right.
Speaker 2: So we're going to I feel comfortable with it. Two.
Speaker 2: That brings it back to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you have?
Speaker 2: My second pick was Bill Hancock's bullshit.
Speaker 1: A pretty good pick given the history of Bill Hancock.
Speaker 2: A good pick given his history, But even on my
Speaker 2: own scoring sheet only had two weeks where he was
Speaker 2: trying to spin something. That's really what this gets to.
Speaker 2: The quintessential Bill Hancock bullshit is him trying to pull
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, spinning things is very popular day. Yes,
Speaker 2: Bill Hancock was the original.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something, I have a little bit
Speaker 1: more respect for Bill Hancock in this day and age.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine giving him more than two. No, it's
Speaker 1: just there just wasn't all that much. There was some
Speaker 1: spin coming to future scheduling one. I think one is
Speaker 1: fair here.
Speaker 2: I feel like one is fair here. Yeah, we will
Speaker 2: get more Bill Hancock bullshit.
Speaker 1: In the future.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but probably when we least expect it. Yes, Okay.
Speaker 2: The reason that I took this pick so high it
Speaker 2: was sort of coming on the heels of them putting
Speaker 2: college football playoff games on New Year's Eve. Right, still,
Speaker 2: by and large, a disaster, not as big a disaster
Speaker 2: as it had been the year previous. This coming season,
Speaker 2: we're not going to have that. Well he has.
Speaker 1: He's like literally a grandfather and he's grandfathered in too.
Speaker 1: I mean he runs the BCS, he helps to run
Speaker 1: the playoff whatever iteration we have of college football postseason
Speaker 1: that we have next, even if it's called the Bill
Speaker 1: Hancock is definitely not involved with this playoff system system. Oh,
Speaker 1: who's the executive director? It appears to be Bill Hancock.
Speaker 1: Hancock is cutting things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so I go one here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm giving you that one.
Speaker 2: Not enough bullshit? All right, let's snake around. We got
Speaker 2: a lot to get through. I have Jim Harrbass Slash
Speaker 2: SEC feud as my third.
Speaker 1: Obviously white hot to start off things, whitefall? What do
Speaker 1: we think about the during the season.
Speaker 2: Kind of cooled off? Did cool off? It cooled off?
Speaker 1: I can't they have an ACC team in a bowl
Speaker 1: game they don't get the SEC.
Speaker 2: I can't go higher than a two. Okay, I feel
Speaker 2: like two is the proper score here. Yeah, because it
Speaker 2: started off so white hot. It feels a lot to
Speaker 2: me like the Michigan State disrespect, right, But I can't
Speaker 2: go high than too because it did cool off.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if we were talking talking about Jim
Speaker 1: Harbaugh Western Europe feuding, yeah.
Speaker 2: That might be a thing moving forward.
Speaker 1: But he is taking his act away from Florida, away
Speaker 1: from the IMG Academy. I mean, we'll see what happens
Speaker 1: with satellite camps moving forward. But unless you were watching
Speaker 1: the Paul Fine Bomb Show, I don't feel like there
Speaker 1: was much in the way of going back and forth too.
Speaker 2: Okay, go one and a half. If we were doing decimals, I.
Speaker 1: Think the satellite stuff and the discussion point in August
Speaker 1: I think gets you at too.
Speaker 2: Two. Okay, it's in the books for two. Your turn.
Speaker 1: All right, this is back to me. I have Mark
Speaker 1: ricked as a Miami alumnus.
Speaker 2: Did he go to Miami? Went to Miami? Really?
Speaker 1: It was Miami of Florida, the University of Miami. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's all about the U.
Speaker 2: So it's great that he is now had football coach
Speaker 2: in Coral Gables.
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, it is a crazy coincidence. I'm going to
Speaker 1: give myself a four here. Really, I'm going to give
Speaker 1: myself a four because you could not watch a Miami
Speaker 1: broadcast without at least being mentioned once Okay, so that's
Speaker 1: very specific to Miami games. The problem though, is how
Speaker 1: many big Miami broadcasts were there, like Big Nash on
Speaker 1: the national stage, Notre Dame, Notre Dame. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: the Bowl game?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: They ever? He got attention on signing day they signed
Speaker 1: a real nice class.
Speaker 2: My my initial thought was three.
Speaker 1: Okay, why three? Just because Miami was not in the
Speaker 1: constant conversations.
Speaker 2: I'll take a three. I feel like a three, but
Speaker 2: no lower than a three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't take lower than the three because it
Speaker 1: was consistent.
Speaker 2: I a way bad only giving you a three for that.
Speaker 2: This is another tweeer for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was consistent, But how consistently.
Speaker 2: Were we all watching Miami games, that's right, or at
Speaker 2: least listening to Miami broadcasts or taking Yeah, I feel
Speaker 2: like that cooled off over the course of the season. See,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at yours just through three picks, and we
Speaker 2: got a motor here because we're falling behind schedule. Okay,
Speaker 2: but look, you've got a three to two and a three.
Speaker 2: I've got a four to a one in a two.
Speaker 2: I'd much rather have two threes than a four to
Speaker 2: two and a one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got a lower floor, maybe a higher ceiling.
Speaker 1: All right, so we're gonna snake back around Josh Rosen's
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen draft stock.
Speaker 2: Rough rough year for the draft stock. He's not even
Speaker 2: the draft stock king of Los Angeles. I'm not even
Speaker 2: sure I heard the words draft mentioned in accordance with
Speaker 2: Josh Rosen after like, well.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was hurt halfway into the year.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no one's even talking about Rosen.
Speaker 1: Serious nerve damage. I think people are much more concerned.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be a new offense. So yet
Speaker 1: again for UCLA, they fire fire Kennedy Palm, They're bringing
Speaker 1: Jedfish more pro style again, though, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: give myself a one.
Speaker 2: This is a one.
Speaker 1: It has to be a one.
Speaker 2: This is a one. I was all in on Josh Rosen. Two.
Speaker 2: I wanted Josh Rosen's draftstock on my team.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh man, all right, let's circle back to you.
Speaker 2: What do you got Christian McCaffrey's versatility?
Speaker 1: Okay, Stanford sort of fell off a cliff attention wise
Speaker 1: pretty early on in the season.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you why I believe I came up
Speaker 2: with this storyline. I'll tell you why I came up
Speaker 2: with it and why I picked it. Okay, this is
Speaker 2: one of those things like Tom Hammond's Random Factory. Just
Speaker 2: some nervous Time'm using the word tick a lot on
Speaker 2: this show, and I don't know why. Maybe it's my
Speaker 2: own little tick coincidentally enough, but it is one of
Speaker 2: those announcer things that they focus in on that they
Speaker 2: just they can't get enough of. They can't help themselves
Speaker 2: talking about how versatile this guy is. This may be
Speaker 2: another Michigan State disrespect kind of situation where they mentioned
Speaker 2: it a lot last year. Yeah, they didn't mention it
Speaker 2: a lot this year because he was hurt. They will
Speaker 2: talk about it a ton in the NFL now, absolutely well.
Speaker 1: I think also part of this was there was so
Speaker 1: much off the field Christian McCaffrey stuff as well. He
Speaker 1: can play instruments, he's traveled, he's a great student, whatever.
Speaker 2: So the versatility did not diminish. What diminished was the
Speaker 2: coverage of said versatility.
Speaker 1: I might give you a one here, This is a one.
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to take this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a one, A total bust pick here. Yeah, versatility,
Speaker 2: and he's not any less versatil.
Speaker 1: He got injured during the year. He had a ton
Speaker 1: of quarterback troubles. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the one
Speaker 1: really bad offense from Stanford for a chunk of that season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you got to take the one there. All right,
Speaker 1: let's circle back. What you got for the next pick?
Speaker 2: Hype for a recently unsuccessful Pac twelve school. Okay, this
Speaker 2: is a two for Tuesday here. Yes, even though it's
Speaker 2: a Wednesday. That would be USC and Washington. I feel
Speaker 2: like I kind of have both here.
Speaker 1: Okay, neither one. USC has been relatively successful recently.
Speaker 2: They had six losses a year ago. That's true, Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, Washington, of course, you know, made the playoff.
Speaker 2: They were a great team this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The hype I feel very quickly turned into real world
Speaker 2: Oh this team is good?
Speaker 1: Right, I don't. Okay, So aside from my own personal
Speaker 1: energy towards the University of Washington that I tried to
Speaker 1: generate the PAC twelve, especially the PAC twelve North with
Speaker 1: Stanford and Oregon sort of quickly, even though Stanford finished
Speaker 1: with ten wins, sort of taking themselves out. Stanford got
Speaker 1: completely murdered by Washington. Oregon was a total train wreck
Speaker 1: last year, while Zoo was pretty good, but nobody really
Speaker 1: had a concept for them, and they themselves have a
Speaker 1: ton of hype because of their early season losses. I
Speaker 1: was at Poise State and Eastern Washington. Oregon State was
Speaker 1: a wreck until the end of the season. Cal was
Speaker 1: a wreck all year long. The problem with Washington had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Washington, but they didn't have the
Speaker 1: big games outside of Stanford early and USC late, in
Speaker 1: which they lost. So after they lost that USC game,
Speaker 1: people said like, Okay, they're still probably in a good
Speaker 1: position to get to the playoff. But people this, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm going to trust you better than I because I
Speaker 1: am biased as an Oregon fan. Were people enthused about
Speaker 1: Jake Browning and Chris Peterson and Washington. I think people
Speaker 1: just sort of accepted the fact that there was a
Speaker 1: good shot that they'd beat in the playoff.
Speaker 2: They accepted it, and I feel like they accepted it
Speaker 2: almost by default, right by default, because we talked about it.
Speaker 2: How many times did we talk about this, Dan, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was very apparent last five weeks of the season,
Speaker 2: six weeks of the season, we knew who was going
Speaker 2: to be in the playoff, right I mean they were
Speaker 2: going to have Colorado or Wazoo, and generally speaking, who
Speaker 2: was going to be in the Penn State. Injection this
Speaker 2: energy of Penn State into that conversation was interesting, but no,
Speaker 2: I think by and large we kind of knew that
Speaker 2: the hype was more than just hype fairly early on
Speaker 2: with Washington. Here is why I'm inclined to give myself
Speaker 2: a three.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll listen, because I have you down as a
Speaker 1: two for this.
Speaker 2: Say three is because there was a lot of late
Speaker 2: season hype that built on USC. Okay, and now as
Speaker 2: we enter into the off season at Ross Bowl, it's
Speaker 2: going to be at a fever pitch yep. I feel
Speaker 2: like I got in on the coattails there of the USC.
Speaker 2: So a lot of Washington early, a lot more USC
Speaker 2: late after a tough one in three start. Yeah, kind
Speaker 2: of not much in the middle.
Speaker 1: I'll give it too for USC the USC W Like.
Speaker 1: I feel like USC is like at a two and
Speaker 1: Washington's at like a one. So because the actual category
Speaker 1: is hype for a recently unsuccessful Pac twelve school, but
Speaker 1: is it for recent Pact twelve school or Pack twelve schools?
Speaker 1: I have singular down here? Oh, I have single down here?
Speaker 2: Wow? So so do I? Wow. So USC didn't have
Speaker 2: hype till the end of the year. They had a
Speaker 2: complete vacuum of hype.
Speaker 1: Early.
Speaker 2: We need like the ninth circuit court of a pipe
Speaker 2: to figure this out.
Speaker 1: Does yours say school or schools?
Speaker 2: It says school, It says school unsuccessful? But it does.
Speaker 1: I correct, it didn't mine. But we're not talking. But
Speaker 1: is it the hype that we're talking about? Hype could
Speaker 1: be plural, right, wow, But but the fact that it's
Speaker 1: hype hype for a school?
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Speaker 1: What do you think I early on with Michigan State disrespect,
Speaker 1: I said spirit of the and listen, you can.
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Speaker 2: Uh that brings us to your pick and Dan, oh man, Dan,
Speaker 2: do we have a first five? Hear me smiling here?
Speaker 2: Charlie Strong's Dower Die season was a pick for you.
Speaker 1: I gotta gett. I did give myself a five.
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 1: Every single week ends up and this is nothing I enjoy.
Speaker 1: I don't like when people lose their jobs. Luckily, Charlie
Speaker 1: Strong was able to land someplace that's I think as
Speaker 1: good a non Power five job as there is because
Speaker 1: of where it's located in their recent success at USF.
Speaker 1: But in terms of consistency, in terms of how much
Speaker 1: Charlie Strong was spoken of nationally, locally, regionally, I think
Speaker 1: we have our first five with Charlie Strong Steward I.
Speaker 2: See in Texas. What makes this pick beautiful?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Value pick too, value, pick fifth round. Yeahd damn, you're
Speaker 2: like the New England Patriots.
Speaker 1: Listen, it's all about value.
Speaker 2: Here is what makes this pick beautiful.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like how you say beautyful.
Speaker 2: I'm doing. I'm doing the Yeah, this is the Trump thing.
Speaker 2: I'm doing. I'm doing the Trump thing with my.
Speaker 1: So you're raising three fingers. It's an eg now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the iOS kids, what makes this pick beautiful
Speaker 2: is the fact that Charlie Strong not only usually do
Speaker 2: or die is a figure of speech. Yeah, he both
Speaker 2: did and died in the same season.
Speaker 1: What can I tell you?
Speaker 2: There were moments this season where it looked like he
Speaker 2: was gonna hold onto the show.
Speaker 1: There were specific drives that were do or drives for
Speaker 1: Charlie Strong. It was such a micro level pick, and.
Speaker 2: There were obvious points throughout the course of the season
Speaker 2: where he was legitimately dead. Yeah, then came back to
Speaker 2: life and then went back to being dead.
Speaker 1: This is true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a five. This would be a six.
Speaker 2: The fact that they started out beating Notre Dame in
Speaker 2: the fashion that they did. There was the do, there
Speaker 2: was the do. Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas was the die. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I mean we've got it all in one pick.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna hand myself a five.
Speaker 2: This is not the best value pick though, No, I
Speaker 2: don't believe it is. My last round pick is is
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's wonderful.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it will be enough to put
Speaker 2: me over the top. Right now, you're coming in, all right.
Speaker 1: So my second pick here is the internet freaking out
Speaker 1: over a Southern QB's girlfriend. Okay, who is it? Shaye Patterson,
Speaker 1: Shape Patterson. We had early on Trevor Knight with the
Speaker 1: Duck Dynasty. We had Blake Barnett is dating some sort
Speaker 1: of professional surfer from southern California.
Speaker 2: Blake Barnett.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe not Shape Patterson. Here's the other thing, though, Tye,
Speaker 1: where I don't think you've calculated, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask you for your consideration. I haven't decided how I
Speaker 1: feel about it. This is going to be very personal
Speaker 1: to you too.
Speaker 2: Personal.
Speaker 1: Jordan Rodgers is.
Speaker 2: A Southern QB, but I think the spirit of it
Speaker 2: is active Southern QB active Southern QB.
Speaker 1: Right, wow, because we are just talking about freaking out.
Speaker 2: You put a new spin on this dance. So Jordan
Speaker 2: Rodgers was the Bachelor, Bachelor, Winner, Bachelorette. He won JoJo's
Speaker 2: heart on The Bachelor.
Speaker 1: A Bachelorette, so he was one of many okay.
Speaker 2: Are friends over at my brother. My brother and me
Speaker 2: would refer to this as a very serious zag that
Speaker 2: you've done to me.
Speaker 1: I have zagged. So here's here's why I'm not going
Speaker 1: to accept it. It is about an active quarterback, and
Speaker 1: it is the freak out is like if you go
Speaker 1: to like busted coverage or one of those sites where
Speaker 1: it's just like you have to check out you know
Speaker 1: this text A and M, this Auburn, this Florida state whatever.
Speaker 1: That was the spirit of it. So I'm not going
Speaker 1: to accept the Jordan rod If we were to accept
Speaker 1: the Jordan Rodgers element. Also, the it's sort of like
Speaker 1: the object It's like the person being objectified is this
Speaker 1: is the girlfriend, which is not cool at all, but
Speaker 1: in the Bachelorette turnaround, in the Bachelorette zag, it is
Speaker 1: Jordan Rodgers who's being objectified. So it is this beautiful
Speaker 1: what's her name? Jojo Jojo? So so Jordan Rodgers was
Speaker 1: the object of JoJo's affection. So I don't feel like
Speaker 1: Jordan Rodgers was being put on websites as you can't
Speaker 1: believe who Jojo is dating and pictures of Jordan Rodgers.
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to accept it put it as
Speaker 1: a zag.
Speaker 2: This is part of the reason why we're america Most
Speaker 2: honest college Football podcast. I was voted my senior year
Speaker 2: of high school most honest. Okay, either that or I'm
Speaker 2: a great liar. But we're trying to bring honesty here.
Speaker 2: That's true, and I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'm just saying I considered it if it
Speaker 1: was gonna be, if it was going to make its
Speaker 1: way through, that was a definite five.
Speaker 2: What do we give it? Man?
Speaker 1: I think I don't think it was a needle moving year.
Speaker 1: As for attention, like if it were a J. McCarron
Speaker 1: Catherine White year, I would have gone five. Catheryne Webb,
Speaker 1: excuse me, Catherine Webb? How quickly we forget that's true.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give myself a three because I thought
Speaker 1: it was there was the consistent drum beat, But I
Speaker 1: don't think.
Speaker 2: Anybody really spiked the needle. Okay, So are you good
Speaker 2: with the three for that? A three feels a little aggressive? Really?
Speaker 1: Okay? But I see the problem is I don't think
Speaker 1: either one of us really patronizes, patronized or whatever reads
Speaker 1: the sites that are posting.
Speaker 2: This all that often. I'll give you a three, Dan, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the three. I'll give you a three
Speaker 2: because I'm a nice guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Okay. O.
Speaker 1: Man, if only Blake Barnett had held onto his starting position,
Speaker 1: I would have definitely had four.
Speaker 2: All right. That brings us to me, what do you
Speaker 2: have an attacking mentality?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: So here's what's interesting about this. The reason I brought
Speaker 2: this up is because every year there are teams who
Speaker 2: get a new defensive coordinator. And what does every defensive coordinator,
Speaker 2: every new defensive coordinator want to bring to the table
Speaker 2: that his predecessor did not have?
Speaker 1: Can I tell you we are going to bring pressure
Speaker 1: with an aggressive attacking mentality?
Speaker 2: Thank you? Yeah, thank you. They all want to have
Speaker 2: an attacking mental bring a lot of pressure, and it
Speaker 2: seems as if they all say that. Now, what's fascinating
Speaker 2: to me about this is at least through half of
Speaker 2: the season, this got more points than hype for a
Speaker 2: recently unsuccessful school, more points than Bill Hancock's bullshit, and
Speaker 2: one fewer point than Tom Herman co rumors. This did
Speaker 2: surprisingly well through at least the halfway point. Hm, I
Speaker 2: would not have, in my wildest dreams imagine a situation
Speaker 2: in which I'd be thinking about maybe giving this a four. Okay,
Speaker 2: but I could probably build a strong case for giving
Speaker 2: this a four. What is your caseuse?
Speaker 1: This is a pick centered around December, when new defensive
Speaker 1: coordinators are being hired.
Speaker 2: Right December January. It's centered around that, but it's also
Speaker 2: center around August when everyone is talking to the.
Speaker 1: Me a new defensive coordinator. Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: So my case for it is that this came up
Speaker 2: a lot more in the early part of September than
Speaker 2: I expected. Okay, with that in mind, I can't in
Speaker 2: good faith give this a four, But I can't give
Speaker 2: it a three.
Speaker 1: I think I'm okay with three because if I were
Speaker 1: to ask you right now, who in December or early
Speaker 1: January was a defensive coordinator higher that everybody like, sir
Speaker 1: so going into the season. Bob it was a Bob
Speaker 1: Shoop who everybody was given us links, was talking about
Speaker 1: having an attacking mentality. I don't feel like there was
Speaker 1: a big enough higre as I look across you know, LSU.
Speaker 1: They keep Dave Veranda, so there is not that huge
Speaker 1: press conference Todd Orlando. I don't think there was a
Speaker 1: big word about being more attacking and more aggressive for
Speaker 1: Texas at Oregon. Jim Levitt, you know, he's a big personality,
Speaker 1: but I don't feel like there was. Maybe I missed it.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like there was that initial burst of aggressive, attacking,
Speaker 1: bring pressure quote wise. So I feel like it was consistent,
Speaker 1: but I didn't hear it from huge names all over
Speaker 1: the place. So three feels right, Okay, consistent but not consistent,
Speaker 1: drum beat but not loud.
Speaker 2: Okay, that gives me three. That gives me thirteen overall.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you've got like one in hand here and you
Speaker 2: still got seven. Yeah, so you're you're gonna come on
Speaker 2: top here. This one, I feel could be a spirited debate. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm ready, Texas A and M's quarterbacks heads are falling.
Speaker 2: So this is my second This was a good one.
Speaker 2: This was your sixth round selection. Yeah, what is the
Speaker 2: origin of this pick?
Speaker 1: The origin of the pick is both Kyle Allen and
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray transferred in very short time away from Texas
Speaker 1: A and M giving them I believe at the time
Speaker 1: it was just JQ Hubeck, Hubaneck whatever Cubanc and then
Speaker 1: Trevor Knight eventually used his grad transfer year to move
Speaker 1: south from Norman to College Station and took over and
Speaker 1: at least solidified things in terms of depth charts and
Speaker 1: having multiple quarterbacks play. He does get hurt against Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: They're going to rely on some young quarterbacks moving forward,
Speaker 1: but this one peaked early. I think I have to
Speaker 1: give myself nothing higher than a two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go I was going to say one
Speaker 2: or two. Yeah, I'll be generous. I'll go too.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take it.
Speaker 2: We'll go to Okay, move to you, move to me.
Speaker 2: See this is where I think there's going to be
Speaker 2: some spirited debate. You want to go back and forth here? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Mine was My next pick was Ohio State's attrition.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like this one was dead. I tried to
Speaker 2: warn you. I feel like it was dead. There was
Speaker 2: a little bit of action up front. Yeah, people talking
Speaker 2: about this. There was a little bit of action late,
Speaker 2: people talking about how much how much of an impact
Speaker 2: Ohio State players would have on the draft in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: This is a one.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. I think one is right. The worst
Speaker 1: thing that could have happened for this pick was Ohio
Speaker 1: State blowing out Oklahoma. Yes, it was the worst thing
Speaker 1: that could have happened. And thank you Noah Brown, thank
Speaker 1: you Samuel Weber Brown. They had a huge offensive game,
Speaker 1: they shut down for the most part, a very good.
Speaker 2: O' the twenty four years, right, we'll score of that game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: And what the funny thing is, though, the story about
Speaker 1: Ohio State, in terms of narratives from my Long Island friends,
Speaker 1: is the overarching thing with Ohio State this year was
Speaker 1: what is wrong with Ohio State and especially what is
Speaker 1: wrong with JT. Barrett, which was the opposite of attrition.
Speaker 1: So the worst thing was the Oklahoma bludgeting. So that's
Speaker 1: why I would agree with that. And we made a
Speaker 1: sound for the baby buck Eyes.
Speaker 2: We had this whole little shtick worked up, and it
Speaker 2: was proof positive that you can't plan these things.
Speaker 1: The problem is with that pick in retrospect, Ohio State
Speaker 1: recruits far too well to really hone in on attrition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you live, you learn what was a later
Speaker 2: round pick. It's true I took a flyer on it.
Speaker 2: You absolutely didn't quite pan out. All right, let's go
Speaker 2: back to you then. Okay, this is one I did
Speaker 2: not keep keep tabs on.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna verify things right now.
Speaker 2: So you picked country singer on game day? Yes, this
Speaker 2: is a staple. It happens at least once a year.
Speaker 2: Who who is the guy who just likes every team?
Speaker 2: Kenny Chesney?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Was Chesney on this year? Do we know.
Speaker 1: He had to have been? But I'm going to go through.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go through.
Speaker 2: So let's see, that's two thousand guest pickers. Oh, this
Speaker 2: is not doing it. This is just names. Do we
Speaker 2: have a good list anywhere on the internet?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure there is. I'm gonna find game day ESPN.
Speaker 1: We're gonna use Wikipedia college game day locales. Man, I
Speaker 1: need to find the guest pickers. Let's oh, here we go.
Speaker 1: I should be able to have.
Speaker 2: So let's put it this way. We don't we don't
Speaker 2: need to boil this down to an exact science. It's
Speaker 2: not a one because there's always a country singer on
Speaker 2: game day, and if there's not a country singer, we
Speaker 2: could do another bit of a zag and say that
Speaker 2: it's got something to do with the game day intro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a guest picker spirit though where is
Speaker 1: So there's some website called Cole's Game Day Blog. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Cole and he lists it here. So it
Speaker 1: was twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: I'm not very good, so I can tell you all
Speaker 1: of the guests, Okay, okay, So Aaron Rodgers definitely not
Speaker 1: a country. How many weeks with their fifteen sixteen seventeen weeks?
Speaker 1: How many country singers would we need for that for
Speaker 1: it to be a legitimate like three?
Speaker 2: Like four pickers? I would say four? Four?
Speaker 1: Okay. We had Dale Earnhardt Junior, not a country center tangential,
Speaker 1: but not a country singer. Laila Ali as far as
Speaker 1: I know, not a country singer. Steve Spurrier, not a
Speaker 1: country singer. Phillip Fulmer. No, Eric Church is that a
Speaker 1: country I.
Speaker 2: Believe, so that'd be one.
Speaker 1: So there's one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chain Smokers definitely not, definitely not. Do you like
Speaker 2: the Chance Smokers. I like one song by the Chean Smokers.
Speaker 1: I think their secret garbage or maybe they're out in
Speaker 1: the open garbage. I don't know. I don't like them
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: I don't think that. I think the problem with the
Speaker 2: Chain Smokers is that they have the one guy part
Speaker 2: of the Chain Smokers who thinks he can sing. Chain
Speaker 2: Steve Chain is that Steve Chang, Steve Chain, he thinks
Speaker 2: he can sing. But Steve Chain and the smoke, I
Speaker 2: think he's in it for the girls. But that's just
Speaker 2: my theory.
Speaker 1: Same uh Rick Flair not a country singer. Verne lundquiz
Speaker 1: not a country singer. Frank Caliendo not a country singer.
Speaker 1: Lil Wayne has he done a country duet? Not going
Speaker 1: to count it, spirit Joel McHale not a country singer.
Speaker 1: Greg Jennings not a country singer. That's it.
Speaker 2: So it's a one.
Speaker 1: That's a one, all right. It was a very soft
Speaker 1: year for country singers. On Game day.
Speaker 2: Back to me, yep, I have this in quotations. What
Speaker 2: do you have this year's Iowa? Okay, this is a one.
Speaker 2: It's got to be one. This is a one who
Speaker 2: was there. The spirit of this pick was that there's
Speaker 2: going to be an underdog team that is going to
Speaker 2: be referred to no right week schedule, Sorry Iowa fans,
Speaker 2: but week schedule they run their way through it. They
Speaker 2: somehow burst into well here was the problem. National conversation
Speaker 2: on the heels of that.
Speaker 1: The problem was there was a team in their division
Speaker 1: who was formidable and in it till the end, and
Speaker 1: people weren't fully sure if they were going to be
Speaker 1: able to run the table. The problem is Wisconsin is
Speaker 1: a bigger brand of football than Iowa. So you can't
Speaker 1: say out of nowhere because Wisconsin's played in a bunch
Speaker 1: of rose balls recently.
Speaker 2: If if one weren't the absolute floor here, yeah, I
Speaker 2: would give it a zero. This bad pick, bad bad pick.
Speaker 1: I'm looking here. Yeah, it wasn't going to be you
Speaker 1: know what, but even Nebraska, you can't say Nebraska is
Speaker 1: like to come from nowhere. Isn't playing anybody? They played
Speaker 1: Oregon early on in.
Speaker 2: The traditional blue blood national right championsh of caliber programs.
Speaker 1: Like it would have had to have been from here.
Speaker 1: It would have to be Illinois, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue. I
Speaker 1: would have taken teams in another conference. It had to
Speaker 1: have been like NC State something like that. Didn't happen,
Speaker 1: not a not a dig on n C State, but
Speaker 1: you know, not nothing the biggest brand name.
Speaker 2: So that's a one.
Speaker 1: That's a one.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Are we going back to me? Back to you locker
Speaker 1: room coach dancing? Oh okay, who is big this year?
Speaker 1: So I'm not had coach dancing thing, So you had
Speaker 1: big speeches. The Dino Babers thing was big, but not
Speaker 1: a dance. The Dino Baber's speech was large. PJ. Fleck
Speaker 1: animated inspiring to the Western Michigan team. Row the boat,
Speaker 1: row that boat. But the coach dancing thing there was
Speaker 1: a little bit of dabbo. There was a little bit
Speaker 1: of this. I don't feel like it had this sort
Speaker 1: of attention that it did the year before.
Speaker 2: So one, I think I'm also going to give that
Speaker 2: a one. Two straight ones are not good for my
Speaker 2: bottom line. All right, back to me. Weird neutral site games. Okay,
Speaker 2: this has to be at least a two. Okay, I
Speaker 2: could go higher, give me your case. The weirdest of
Speaker 2: the weird was the game between Virginia Tech and Tennessee
Speaker 2: at Bristol Motor Speedway or that was a weird one
Speaker 2: Cal Hawaiian in Australia, Cal Hawaii in Australia. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: week before the first week of the College Boss. It
Speaker 2: wasn't just weird neutral site games in venue. We just
Speaker 2: had like a lot of odd matchups. Didn't Mississippi go
Speaker 2: or Mississippi State go up to play like Boston College yea,
Speaker 2: excuse me in it yeah, same same wow. But we
Speaker 2: had a lot of games like that that just it
Speaker 2: wasn't so much that they were playing on like a
Speaker 2: cruise ship, but they were just two teams that you
Speaker 2: wouldn't expect to be playing each other. True, So I'm
Speaker 2: inclined to go three. Yeah, I'd take a three because
Speaker 2: the Bristol Motor speed thing, but that like we knew
Speaker 2: that going in like LSU Wisconsin just doesn't feel like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel i'd give you more enthusiastically the three.
Speaker 1: And this is obviously your false. Notre Dame had a
Speaker 1: garbage season and they where did they play this year?
Speaker 2: They played a weird game in Jacksonville, Army. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: played a game it was San Antonio. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 2: like it's a three. I'll give you the three.
Speaker 1: It definitely was a weird year, but like, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a scheduled thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, all right back to you. This is
Speaker 2: your last one, then.
Speaker 1: College stadium is selling beer. I didn't hear a peep
Speaker 1: about this during the season.
Speaker 2: You picked this one because it was the last pick available, yes,
Speaker 2: you had.
Speaker 1: I had no enthusiasm for this.
Speaker 2: Pick, none whatsoever. So this is this is a one?
Speaker 1: Kay? Was there were there any good beer stories from
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 2: Dennis Dodd wrote one very early on, very early on
Speaker 2: about it, but it was not a controversial take. It
Speaker 2: was were akin to, hey, you're going to see more
Speaker 2: stadium selling beer. The reason that we put this one
Speaker 2: on the docket was because we thought, and I believe
Speaker 2: we described it as such, that there would be a
Speaker 2: crotchety old man column from some guy in like des Moines,
Speaker 2: not to single out anyone into moy, there was gonna
Speaker 2: be some crotchety old white sports writer, yeah, bitching and
Speaker 2: moaning about the kids.
Speaker 1: So what I really needed for this pick, I really
Speaker 1: needed one of the stadiums to have like a revolt,
Speaker 1: and I needed like beer thrown on the field, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's throwing their their plastic hands of beer or something
Speaker 1: like that. I needed that big seminal moment of stadium
Speaker 1: beer injecting itself into a game, and I just didn't
Speaker 1: get it. I just didn't get it.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is going to come down to the wire. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable that it's going to come down to this.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: My final selection was titled second guessing. Brian Kelly went
Speaker 2: on a lot this season. I think this is we
Speaker 2: can debate this a little bit though it's at least
Speaker 2: a four.
Speaker 1: I think that's okay. I think at least a four
Speaker 1: is good. I can argue three a little bit because
Speaker 1: of how bad Notre Dame was and how little they
Speaker 1: were talked about outside of like what's wrong with Notre Dame?
Speaker 1: What happened to Notre Dame's powerful defense? You know, they
Speaker 1: have this returning quarterback that everybody thinks is a first
Speaker 1: round pick. They have this defense that people I think
Speaker 1: we're still pretty high on considering the talents, even with
Speaker 1: injuries in the secondary. It felt like it was more
Speaker 1: of a defensive story, which is not Brian Kelly's purview.
Speaker 2: It was a defensive story. Both literally and figurative true,
Speaker 2: because Brian Kelly was very defensive. Yes, just as a
Speaker 2: human being. About where this whole season went. So initially
Speaker 2: it was the defense, right, they get rid of Brian
Speaker 2: van Gorter. Defense stinks, Then they get rid of Brian Kelly,
Speaker 2: or excuse me, I need to be very careful. They
Speaker 2: get rid of Brian van Gord, Yes, and then Notre
Speaker 2: Dame keeps losing.
Speaker 1: Right, but not necessarily because of the defense.
Speaker 2: The defense solidified, not because of the defense, but primarily
Speaker 2: because they couldn't get all facets of their team firing
Speaker 2: on all cylinders in the same game. They had a
Speaker 2: couple of good games, but not many because it went
Speaker 2: four and eight down the stretch. Then it started to
Speaker 2: become every one second guessing Brian Kelly as head football
Speaker 2: coach for this football team, will he retain his job now?
Speaker 2: I can't honestly say, as somebody who follows noting very closely,
Speaker 2: that there was ever a real moment where I thought
Speaker 2: they were going to fire him. I do believe his
Speaker 2: seat has warmed, sure, and his seat is tepid. I
Speaker 2: still cannot bring myself to a point just in any
Speaker 2: reality in which I honestly believe they're going to get
Speaker 2: rid of him. I think Brian Kelly's going to leave
Speaker 2: on his own volition, if he leaves at all. But
Speaker 2: there was plenty of second guessing for Brian Kelly. So
Speaker 2: at a minimum this is a four. It could be
Speaker 2: a five.
Speaker 1: I struggle to see the case for a five, just
Speaker 1: because who outside of you know, Notre Dame fans in
Speaker 1: the last month month and a half of the season,
Speaker 1: who was talking about Notre Dame beyond like, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody that beats Notre Dame loses, you know, every Notre
Speaker 1: Dame sort of a disaster, but like nobody, I don't
Speaker 1: think people were going super in depth about what was
Speaker 1: wrong with not They're not.
Speaker 2: Going in depth. But Notre Dame was a laughing stock.
Speaker 2: They were a laughing stock in the way that Feurig
Speaker 2: and eight Oregon was not a laughing stock. And I
Speaker 2: know that because our friends right here at espnation dot com.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's true.
Speaker 2: Friends, Matt Brown, who I love and adore and poke
Speaker 2: fun at and have no real malae towards. Okay, I know, Matt, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you guys even look alike a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was making the Foreign eight jokes. Richard Johnson, another
Speaker 2: guy whom I adore, who does great work for espenation
Speaker 2: dot com making the four and eight jokes jokes regularly.
Speaker 2: You could count all of that tangentially as part of
Speaker 2: this second guessing. Brian Kelly, Ah, you could if you
Speaker 2: had drafted Notre Dame jokes.
Speaker 1: That's a shoe in five. I don't think saying, but
Speaker 1: remember Notre Dame is four and eight is actively second guessing.
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly, I'll give you a four. I will take
Speaker 2: a four.
Speaker 1: Okay, take your four.
Speaker 2: Here's why that's interesting. That gives me twenty two. That
Speaker 2: gives you twenty two. All right, let's wrestle. Take off
Speaker 2: that shirt, let's wrestle, let's jelly up. You mean to
Speaker 2: tell me that we both finished with twenty two on
Speaker 2: our own arbitrary scoring.
Speaker 1: So I took three straight singles to finish this out
Speaker 1: country singer on game day, locker room coach, dancing, college
Speaker 1: stadium selling beer. You finished with one, three and four
Speaker 1: this year's IOWA weird neutral site games. Second guessing, Brian Kelly.
Speaker 1: The problem, the only problem I have with this with
Speaker 1: your end scoring is weird neutral site games. They don't
Speaker 1: come about during the season. They don't adjust during the
Speaker 1: season unless at some point the a venue is changed
Speaker 1: to something ridiculous because of weather or construction or act
Speaker 1: of God whatever. I can't not give you a three,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if that is a thing. That
Speaker 1: is something that you can either predict or not predict.
Speaker 1: So this is all a way of saying, let's wrestle.
Speaker 2: Let's wrestle, let's wrest Well, here's what we do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're an interactive tea. By the way, I am perfectly
Speaker 2: fine tying with you. Yeah, I'm perfectly comfortable losing tea.
Speaker 2: It's sort of very old school college football of us
Speaker 2: to tie exactly. Yeah, so let's throw it out. Let's
Speaker 2: let's make overtime be the foot ballers. Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: you can write in soliverable at gmail dot com. Yeah,
Speaker 2: make your case for any of the twenty different.
Speaker 1: What did we underscore?
Speaker 2: Overscore narratives that we rest here? Yeah, all right, we
Speaker 2: will go back through in the end, I'll give you
Speaker 2: the official tabulation of how all this shook out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you can write in, you can tweet us, you
Speaker 2: can facebook us. We will even post the scorecard I'll
Speaker 2: make a little scorecard up on Facebook. Go on there,
Speaker 2: go everywhere, and tell us where you think we were right,
Speaker 2: where we were wrong, but at least as it stands now.
Speaker 2: Time of recording, six fifteen on what is this February eight, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Wednesday the eighth, twenty seventeen, twenty two to twenty two.
Speaker 2: That's incredible, Wow, dead heat.
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on news time.
Speaker 2: I don't have the soundboard with me, otherwise I'd.
Speaker 1: Play yeah boo boo. Okay, So Sarc leaves Alabama after
Speaker 1: so Sarco's oh to one, Lane Kiffin goes what thirteen?
Speaker 1: And oh fourteen? And oh Blaine Given's and Fau Sark
Speaker 1: is at the Atlanta Falcons. Makes perfect sense, total sense.
Speaker 1: Sarc leaves after game. The word was that he and
Speaker 1: Nick Saban didn't particularly agree on many things, and it
Speaker 1: was better for all parties.
Speaker 2: Sabin and Kiffin were at odds. Sabin and Sark were
Speaker 2: at odds. Okay, laying Lane Kiffin, he lands on his feet,
Speaker 2: Sark lands on his feet. Nick Sabin here in a sense,
Speaker 2: has the bully pulpit because he is Nick Saban. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and because they're on a horde of national championships and
Speaker 2: continues to recruit well, win thirteen games a season, get
Speaker 2: to the playoff, gets the national championship, and if you
Speaker 2: coach for him, you are generally getting an even better job,
Speaker 2: or even a more powerful job out of it. For me,
Speaker 2: as a college football fan, I am less interested in
Speaker 2: Sark going to the Falcons and more interested in some
Speaker 2: of the rumored names I've heard, as two of the
Speaker 2: three are offensive coordinators, right, Mark Helfrich being one, chip
Speaker 2: Kelly being another. Yes, those are the two that I
Speaker 2: think have the most steam, and them obviously anything involving
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly is going to pop in college football spheres.
Speaker 2: That to me would obviously be the most interesting, almost
Speaker 2: borderline unfair name. Yes, to put down there in Tuscaloosa.
Speaker 2: Are there any other names we've heard? No, there's it's
Speaker 2: There was one other name.
Speaker 1: I forget what it is right now. It did not
Speaker 1: have the same cachet with Bruce prop excuse me. Bruce
Speaker 1: Felman tweeted, out's Chris God say something like that? But
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly would be enormous if he went to Alabama.
Speaker 2: Unfair. He wouldn't be there for longer than a year,
Speaker 2: but he could install something that would reap benefits for
Speaker 2: years to come, especially with a mobile quarterback in Jalen Hurts. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know that's sort of his calling card, with.
Speaker 1: A mobile quarterback in Jalen Hurts, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: Mark Helfrich would also be a pretty big boon, although
Speaker 1: it is a year with a lot of turnover recruiting
Speaker 1: wise for Alabama. In terms of the coaches who have
Speaker 1: left who have been successful recruiters led by Mario crystobaal
Speaker 1: Mark Halfritch is not necessarily known as a huge recruiter,
Speaker 1: whereas Chip Kelly, I think could could succeed.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Yeah, if we're going to
Speaker 2: talk strategery here on the show, please, if you are
Speaker 2: Nick Saban and you have your pick between Hip Kelly
Speaker 2: and Mark Helfrich George George Gotzi, if you have your
Speaker 2: pick between those two ex Oregon head football coaches, do
Speaker 2: you take Chip Kelly because you feel he is superior
Speaker 2: schematically and also probably an exact body, double exact mind,
Speaker 2: double mind meld of Nick Saban in his you know
Speaker 2: how thorough and detailed specific reality, but you know he's
Speaker 2: only gonna be their year, right, Or do you take
Speaker 2: Mark Helfrich whom probably at least three similar sensibilities, but
Speaker 2: will be there a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: I think Helfrich. I think Helfrich because he'll install a
Speaker 1: lot of what Oregon did offensively. You can recruit without him.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still I think a decent recruiter. He's
Speaker 1: just not He doesn't have the force of personality of
Speaker 1: a successful head coach at a huge place like Oregon.
Speaker 1: I just it's not going to work out for Mark
Speaker 1: Helfrich at a place like that anytime soon. He is
Speaker 1: regarded as extremely nice and extraordinarily bright, like he is
Speaker 1: an ex's and o's savant. He's he's easy to get
Speaker 1: along with, which I think is where maybe Sark and
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin were less so. So I think Helfrich would
Speaker 1: be able with a quarterback, which he's had. He has
Speaker 1: been a very good quarterback coach when he's had the
Speaker 1: actual talent to work with, and it was his fault
Speaker 1: he didn't at Oregon. The Chip thing, it would be
Speaker 1: very strong for a year, but it would burn out
Speaker 1: fast because Chip is going to go take like the
Speaker 1: UCLA job next year or something.
Speaker 2: God for there is undoubtedly a burning desire to go
Speaker 2: out and get the big fish and Chip Kelly. Yes,
Speaker 2: I would not fault Nick Saban if he wanted to
Speaker 2: go that time. I think, yeah, nobody would. Nobody would.
Speaker 1: And it's not as if Chip Kelly went from being
Speaker 1: a receivers coach to a head coach. Chip Kelly was
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator at Oregon at New Hampshire like has
Speaker 1: that experience.
Speaker 2: It would be an absolute tourd of force if they
Speaker 2: bring him in. Yep, But there are no bad options
Speaker 2: if you're Nick Saban, and if you get Mark Helfrich
Speaker 2: that almost makes more sense long term.
Speaker 1: And who's to say. Mark Helfrich though, won't be available
Speaker 1: next year after Chip leaves, So maybe you do both.
Speaker 2: There you go, Maybe you hope for both. Okay, is
Speaker 2: there any other news? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean there's a bunch of assistants leaving after signing day.
Speaker 1: I know Florida lost a pretty well regarded DB's coach,
Speaker 1: which is always a bummer because they hang around in
Speaker 1: a lot of their contracts are like just through signing
Speaker 1: day and then they take off, which again, kids commit
Speaker 1: to the school, commit to the school, don't commit to
Speaker 1: the coach if at all possible. You know, there's always
Speaker 1: rules changes that are involved with things. Oregon fired another
Speaker 1: assistant coach. He was in the car with the tight
Speaker 1: ends slash co offensive coordinator who was arrested for a
Speaker 1: duy who was let go, and he has moved on
Speaker 1: this receivers coach who is also in the car. He
Speaker 1: is now the receivers coach and like passing game coordinator
Speaker 1: for UCLA Jimmy Doherty. Harbog I was at Michigan last
Speaker 1: year as an offensive analyst, So a little bit of
Speaker 1: turmoil there.
Speaker 2: Still, Baylor fired a coach as part of a prostitution
Speaker 2: sting that he got caught up here.
Speaker 1: Strength coach Baylor, and the report came out about Baylor
Speaker 1: and it was just horrific. Yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 1: you do. It's it's beyond the NC double A. Still
Speaker 1: I feel I feel like the NC DOUBLEA has very little,
Speaker 1: if not any business meddling into legal affairs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Matt rule. There's a reason they gave him
Speaker 2: more runway in a seven year contract.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wonder if.
Speaker 1: It was his strength coach though that followed him from coach.
Speaker 2: It was unfortunate and you know, just oddly coincidental that
Speaker 2: this would be the kind of thing that his guy
Speaker 2: would get tied up in down at Baylor, especially given
Speaker 2: all that's going on there. But I definitely had more
Speaker 2: than a handful of conversations with some friends who said, Wow,
Speaker 2: do you wish Matt Rule had had twice about this? Right?
Speaker 2: I don't know if this would have changed the game.
Speaker 2: I think he knew what he was walking into. He's
Speaker 2: a bright guy. But is Matt Rule here's my question now,
Speaker 2: sorry to interrupt you, is Matt Rule Texas Bill O'Brien
Speaker 2: like if he immediately turns Baylor into if they go
Speaker 2: eight and four in twenty eighteen, nine and three and
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, like they have a better than expected season.
Speaker 2: You know, he puts he's a solid presence in Waco.
Speaker 2: Everybody regards him really well, Like I think everybody regarded
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien really well during.
Speaker 1: His brief time in state college. Is it a situation
Speaker 1: where yes, it's seven year deal, he goes nine and three,
Speaker 1: he's going to take like the A and M job,
Speaker 1: or he's going to take UCLA or coach their briefly,
Speaker 1: he's going to take James Franklin moves on, he takes
Speaker 1: the Penn State job. Do you think there's that possibility.
Speaker 1: I'd even thought of that because if let's say James
Speaker 1: Franklin has another we're going like we're playing dumb people
Speaker 1: chess right now. James Franklin has another extraordinary season, goes
Speaker 1: eleven and one, ten and two in twenty seven team
Speaker 1: and he takes The Eagles fans hate their coach already.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming they do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's his name, they do, Doug Peterson.
Speaker 1: Doug Peters like Peter they do, Okay.
Speaker 2: Probably only because they have Carson Wentz. Okay, so maybe
Speaker 2: they like Doug Peter.
Speaker 1: The Giants fans hate their coach Ben McAdoo.
Speaker 2: I think they they like Benett like Ben mcado Okay,
Speaker 2: let's say, you know, it's finally time for some NFL
Speaker 2: team to move on from their career. What I meant
Speaker 2: to say about Doug Peterson is Eagles fans always hate
Speaker 2: the coach. They don't hate him as much as they
Speaker 2: would normally because they really like Carson Wentz, right, and
Speaker 2: they really didn't like Chip Kelly. Correct.
Speaker 1: So there's okay. So let's say, whoever, some I.
Speaker 2: There there is a pre eminent job available in the Northeast. Yeah,
Speaker 2: is having success down in Waco. I could see a situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe Marvin Lewis moves on the Cincinnati wants to make.
Speaker 2: In which Matt Rule would leave. Okay after two years,
Speaker 2: two three years, ok As, do I see that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I could totally see that. But just a bad state
Speaker 2: of affairs looks really bad for our brills. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: expect we're gonna see our Briells in the game, just
Speaker 2: such scum at any point in time. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 2: a tough tough pill to swallow if you're in the
Speaker 2: Art Briles camp, say the least. Otherwise, though, I don't
Speaker 2: do we have any other news. I think I think
Speaker 2: that pretty much covers.
Speaker 1: It, not too much, Okay, we have plenty of time
Speaker 1: this offseason to hit any news we may have missed.
Speaker 2: So again, here are my picks. Yeah, Tom Herman coaching
Speaker 2: rumors four, Bill Hancock's bullshit one, Jim Harbaugh slash se
Speaker 2: C feud two, Christian McCaffrey's versatility one yep, hype for
Speaker 2: a recently unsuccessful Pac twelve school aka Washington. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was a two ye and attacking mentality three. Ohio State
Speaker 2: attrition one. This year's Iowa and quotes. One weird neutral
Speaker 2: site Games, three second Guessing Brian Kelly four.
Speaker 1: Okay Mine our weekly ranking show. Three Michigan State disrespect
Speaker 1: two Mark rick as a Miami alumnus. Three Josh Rosen's
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen draft stock one, Charlie Strong's Doeward I Season five,
Speaker 1: Internet freak out of a Southern Quarterbacks girlfriend. Three Texas
Speaker 1: A and M's quarterbacks heads are falling off. Two country
Speaker 1: singer on game day. One locker room coach dancing, one
Speaker 1: college stadium selling beer. One tell us who we have
Speaker 1: perhaps over or underscored. Also, this has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with anything. I cannot recommend Mexico City enough.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah it is. We've been talked much about this.
Speaker 1: Mexico City is amazing, and I mean the Spanish which helps.
Speaker 1: I know a little bit of Spanish. But I went
Speaker 1: with my brother and friend of the show Bill Barnwell,
Speaker 1: who is the one who found the amazing rate that
Speaker 1: we went on. It's going I've said this to a
Speaker 1: number of people tie and it's going to sound stupid,
Speaker 1: but it's the only way I can sort of put
Speaker 1: this forth. There is so much Mexican food in Mexico city.
Speaker 1: There is so because they're twenty million people.
Speaker 2: Never would have known that.
Speaker 1: But okay, every but it's it's not that there's so
Speaker 1: much in terms of the percentage of food available as Mexican,
Speaker 1: of course, but side streets there's just like random people
Speaker 1: grilling up tortas and quesadias and everything like that because
Speaker 1: there are twenty million people that need to get fed
Speaker 1: and there is so much. It was amazing. It was
Speaker 1: It's my new homeland.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved I can't wait to get back. I
Speaker 1: went on a taco tour. I ate, you know, super richly,
Speaker 1: I ate super poorly. It was everything I wanted. The
Speaker 1: weather was amazing, very walkable, inexpensive. Again great, great reviews.
Speaker 2: Me this important question, very important question.
Speaker 1: I'm ready.
Speaker 2: I wanted to wipe that smile off.
Speaker 1: Your fathos and takes. I'm very serious.
Speaker 2: All right, this might be our final, okay talking point here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: show for a long time on the program.
Speaker 1: M HM.
Speaker 2: The first eight years of the program, your plan, if
Speaker 2: you were ever out on the LAMB trying to escape
Speaker 2: the FEDS was to grow a mustache, change your appearance,
Speaker 2: go by an alias, and work at like a beach
Speaker 2: side taco stand in San Diego. Yes, would you now
Speaker 2: consider Mexico City if you could get out.
Speaker 1: Of the country, Well, Mexico City, I believe will that's
Speaker 1: an extradition thing, right, Mexico or Mexico in.
Speaker 2: General, if they can find it, if they can find me.
Speaker 1: I feel like I would stand out more as a
Speaker 1: gringo in Mexico City than I would in San Diego.
Speaker 1: And if I'm going to be on the lamb, I'm
Speaker 1: probably gonna want to fit in a little bit better. Okay,
Speaker 1: that said, not fugitive wise, I might be able to
Speaker 1: live in Mexico City. Yeah, I feel like I could
Speaker 1: get by in Mexico City. I looked at a little
Speaker 1: bit of real estate down there. I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 1: and it is affordable. It is affordable. But yeah, Mexico's
Speaker 1: not seafood wise, like I was planning in San Diego.
Speaker 1: That's not where you go for seafood in Mexico City necessarily.
Speaker 1: But if you are looking to travel in the in
Speaker 1: the Western Hemisphere, if you look and travel in North America,
Speaker 1: someplace that's perhaps not super expensive, and you want to
Speaker 1: eat super well and the weather is like extraordinarily mild,
Speaker 1: because it's like seven thousand feet altitude. Whatever. Mexico City
Speaker 1: is great.
Speaker 2: Okay, it is great with a capital sha glowing review.
Speaker 1: We stayed in Polanco, which is a really nice neighborhood,
Speaker 1: but we walked everywhere. Meet Placido to not made a
Speaker 1: Placido Domingo. No, it was extraordinary. Really if you're into
Speaker 1: if you're into Mexican food, no brainer, gotta go.
Speaker 2: Awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have one final note. Please, I don't do this
Speaker 2: often on the show. Serious note.
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, Brady Hoak is also a volunteer.
Speaker 1: Oh good, Yeah, what is your final notes? Final note?
Speaker 1: Is I am raising money? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am raising money. Say close attention, very quick story.
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Speaker 2: with a congenital heart condition and the fine folks at
Speaker 2: Children's Hospital of Philadelphia Chop as we call it, they
Speaker 2: treated her so well. They performed a life saving surgery
Speaker 2: on her. She is doing well, but it is something
Speaker 2: that a number of other babies have to deal with
Speaker 2: and parents have to deal with. So I am doing
Speaker 2: what's called the Philly spin in. I'm going to be
Speaker 2: up on a bike for some indeterminate period of time
Speaker 2: doing a spinning session to help raise money for Have
Speaker 2: you done it before? I have not done this before.
Speaker 2: Do you know what it involves? No? I am a
Speaker 2: little concerned that they may need to do open heart
Speaker 2: surgery on movie after this. I've done it for charity. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the spin is what is the name of the place?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 2: I have no idea?
Speaker 1: So I did this at a place called have you
Speaker 1: heard of Soul Cycle?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: You've never heard of Soul Cycle?
Speaker 2: No? Oh my god, Kate is shaking her head right now.
Speaker 2: It's popular everywhere. It's rough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rough, and it's I'm not going to say
Speaker 1: anything bad about their intentions because they want to get
Speaker 1: people in shape and they want to raise money for
Speaker 1: this wonderful charity. Obviously, it is dark and it is loud,
Speaker 1: and they yell at you, and it is like everybody there.
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot of women, but there's there's some
Speaker 1: men too. It is. It is cult like. Okay, but
Speaker 1: you know what, you'll get a good sweat in for
Speaker 1: a good cause.
Speaker 2: You get a good sweat in. It's for a very
Speaker 2: good cause. Yeah, and it's the least I can do
Speaker 2: to help out the find folks with a very noble
Speaker 2: cause here to support cardiac research and care at Children's
Speaker 2: Hospital Philadelphia. So if you go to I set this
Speaker 2: up solid verbal dot com slash donate, anything you're willing
Speaker 2: to donate to the cause would be greatly appreciated. As
Speaker 2: a group, we've already reached our goal, but we want
Speaker 2: to try and drive that a lot higher because it's
Speaker 2: it's such a good cause and it's near and dear
Speaker 2: to our hearts. So soliverbal dot com slash donate. I
Speaker 2: don't ask for much, but if you're willing to pitch
Speaker 2: in a few bucks here or there, it would be
Speaker 2: greatly appreciated and certainly help out some others who are
Speaker 2: in in this situation. Yeah, all right, that's all I
Speaker 2: got time, That's all I got TI.
Speaker 1: I hope to be a little bit more healthy.
Speaker 2: Do we got to get you healthy? I know you've
Speaker 2: been sick for like four months.
Speaker 1: I don't like this at all.
Speaker 2: All right, well, we got to get some food in you.
Speaker 2: We gotta get some fluids in you. Get that voice
Speaker 2: back at your pep back. Guess we will be back
Speaker 2: in a week talking more college football. Yes, we will
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Speaker 2: literally over there, Dan Rubinstein for myself, ty Hilda Brand,
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Speaker 1: Say hi.
Speaker 2: Until next week, Stay solid, peace,