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Speaker 2: Whoam and Dan and Tye welcome back to the Soliburbal

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Speaker 2: as always fine gentlemen. You know him and actually I

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Speaker 2: see his face. What's up? He's in the same room

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Speaker 2: as me, a gentleman named Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 1: Ty, how are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I feel like I feel like we've

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Speaker 2: recorded a lot in twenty seventeen in person. That's true,

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Speaker 1: No, we've recorded a good amount of person. This is

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Speaker 2: This is the most comfortable I've ever been podcasting.

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Speaker 1: Really, is that?

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Speaker 2: And true story?

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Speaker 1: You are well in, You're dirty.

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Speaker 2: The other half lived in.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm living great here right now. I'm

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Speaker 1: life is good. So you were in New York. We

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Speaker 1: were taking care of some business. But we are doing

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Speaker 1: We have a themed episode right now. Yes, we are

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Speaker 1: going to finally, I mean, it's not the Verbiy's, although

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Speaker 2: At some point. Yeah, last year it was like May.

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Speaker 1: So sure, But what we're gonna do right now, and

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Speaker 1: we've talked about doing this, we're gonna score the Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Things draft that we had. Uh it was last summer,

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Speaker 1: last July, I believe. Yeah, put together we eat drafted

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Speaker 1: what like ten different items something around.

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Speaker 2: The sheet in front of us here about ten issue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ten or eleven items each and we're going to

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Speaker 1: who is more accurate as for predicting college football things.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. So the genesis of the fantasy things.

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Speaker 2: If you're picking it up, it's the off season. I

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Speaker 2: This was something basically that you and I did to

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Speaker 2: demand it, and because the people demand it of course now,

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Speaker 2: so again the one I'll harken back narratives, as our

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Speaker 2: But to harken back to year one of fantasy things,

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Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about news after?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean Alabama's had three offensive coordinators in like

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Speaker 1: So let's begin.

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Speaker 2: We got ground to cover. We each picked ten different narratives.

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Speaker 2: If you will, I will start with mine. This is

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Speaker 2: Let's go back and forth. Okay, First, my first one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, five being inescapable. Right everywhere you turn in college football,

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Speaker 1: I think that's right.

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Speaker 2: Tom Herman coaching rumors because it was not something you

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, so LSU fires their coach early. So there's

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Speaker 1: there were I think throughout the season it was pretty

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Speaker 2: All right, So I'm gonna I actually, I'm gonna keep

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Speaker 1: So I took the weekly College Football ranking show as

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Speaker 2: In escapable, unescapable for the second.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely discussion point. Mm hmm. This was This was

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Speaker 1: It was a well, it was a stronger year two

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Speaker 1: because the discussions were more robust, I will say, because

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Speaker 2: I would say three.

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Speaker 1: I think we should just keep it into yeah, whole.

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Speaker 2: So all right, I'm up four to three. Baby, why

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Speaker 2: don't we bookend this crap?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So my number two pick appears to be Michigan State disrespect.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so this is going to be a spirited debate

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Speaker 2: disc So here's the question.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right, it is going to be a debate.

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Speaker 1: What do we define as disrespect? Because yes, I can

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Speaker 1: make the argument Illinois football disrespected Michigan State this year.

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Speaker 2: In state, disrespected Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Michigan State disrespected Michigan States. But I think I have

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Speaker 1: the two of us, the founding Father. I think I

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Speaker 1: the spirit of Michigan State disrespect is Michigan State being

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Speaker 1: Michigan State after beating Notre Dame, everybody figured it was

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Speaker 2: This was a Ryan Leaf caliber bust right here, right.

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Speaker 2: But we made this.

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Speaker 1: I made this pick in July, so I had all

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Speaker 2: I would argue Penn State was that team. Nobody believed

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I believe I believe that Michigan State disrespect

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Speaker 2: I will say two. Two feels about right. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at our score sheet here. Yeah, so keep in mind,

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Speaker 2: this wasn't like a normal season. We did this what

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Speaker 2: first week of July ish, from the eleventh of July,

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Speaker 2: excuse me, through Christmas time is what I have on

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Speaker 2: the sheet here. From July through the the third week

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Speaker 2: of September, there were only three weeks where we did

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Speaker 2: not tick a market award.

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Speaker 1: Michigan State disrespect.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so early early on it seemed as if you

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Speaker 2: to my earlier point. Yeah, Michigan State disrespect could be

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Speaker 2: a hell of a pick for this coming season.

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Speaker 1: That's where, Yeah, because you built.

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Speaker 2: In a year or two early, they might have had

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Speaker 1: There's so much organic disrespect that's been built up with

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Speaker 1: Michigan State. It's a really good year to get out.

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Speaker 1: They started to and now they beat Furman and they

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Speaker 1: beat Notre Dame and they're ranked and then they lose one, two, three, four, five, six,

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Speaker 1: seven straight games.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Do you know how many non Rutgers Big Ten wins

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Speaker 1: they had this year? It would be zero point zero,

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Speaker 1: zero point zero. So what a bad year? Sorry sparty,

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Speaker 1: All right, all right.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to I feel comfortable with it. Two.

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Speaker 2: That brings it back to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you have?

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Speaker 2: My second pick was Bill Hancock's bullshit.

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Speaker 1: A pretty good pick given the history of Bill Hancock.

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Speaker 2: A good pick given his history, But even on my

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Speaker 2: own scoring sheet only had two weeks where he was

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Speaker 2: trying to spin something. That's really what this gets to.

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Speaker 2: The quintessential Bill Hancock bullshit is him trying to pull

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, spinning things is very popular day. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Bill Hancock was the original.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you something, I have a little bit

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Speaker 1: more respect for Bill Hancock in this day and age.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine giving him more than two. No, it's

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Speaker 1: just there just wasn't all that much. There was some

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Speaker 1: spin coming to future scheduling one. I think one is

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Speaker 1: fair here.

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Speaker 2: I feel like one is fair here. Yeah, we will

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Speaker 2: get more Bill Hancock bullshit.

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Speaker 1: In the future.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but probably when we least expect it. Yes, Okay.

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Speaker 2: The reason that I took this pick so high it

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Speaker 2: was sort of coming on the heels of them putting

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Speaker 2: college football playoff games on New Year's Eve. Right, still,

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Speaker 2: by and large, a disaster, not as big a disaster

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Speaker 2: as it had been the year previous. This coming season,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to have that. Well he has.

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Speaker 1: He's like literally a grandfather and he's grandfathered in too.

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Speaker 1: I mean he runs the BCS, he helps to run

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Speaker 1: that we have next, even if it's called the Bill

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Speaker 1: Hancock is definitely not involved with this playoff system system. Oh,

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Speaker 1: who's the executive director? It appears to be Bill Hancock.

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Speaker 1: Hancock is cutting things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so I go one here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm giving you that one.

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Speaker 2: Not enough bullshit? All right, let's snake around. We got

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Speaker 2: a lot to get through. I have Jim Harrbass Slash

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Speaker 2: SEC feud as my third.

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Speaker 1: Obviously white hot to start off things, whitefall? What do

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Speaker 1: we think about the during the season.

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Speaker 2: Kind of cooled off? Did cool off? It cooled off?

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Speaker 1: I can't they have an ACC team in a bowl

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Speaker 1: game they don't get the SEC.

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Speaker 2: I can't go higher than a two. Okay, I feel

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Speaker 2: like two is the proper score here. Yeah, because it

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Speaker 2: started off so white hot. It feels a lot to

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Speaker 2: me like the Michigan State disrespect, right, But I can't

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Speaker 2: go high than too because it did cool off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if we were talking talking about Jim

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh Western Europe feuding, yeah.

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Speaker 2: That might be a thing moving forward.

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Speaker 1: But he is taking his act away from Florida, away

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Speaker 1: from the IMG Academy. I mean, we'll see what happens

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Speaker 1: with satellite camps moving forward. But unless you were watching

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Speaker 1: the Paul Fine Bomb Show, I don't feel like there

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Speaker 1: was much in the way of going back and forth too.

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Speaker 2: Okay, go one and a half. If we were doing decimals, I.

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Speaker 1: Think the satellite stuff and the discussion point in August

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Speaker 1: I think gets you at too.

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Speaker 2: Two. Okay, it's in the books for two. Your turn.

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Speaker 1: All right, this is back to me. I have Mark

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Speaker 1: ricked as a Miami alumnus.

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Speaker 2: Did he go to Miami? Went to Miami? Really?

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Speaker 1: It was Miami of Florida, the University of Miami. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's all about the U.

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Speaker 2: So it's great that he is now had football coach

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Speaker 2: in Coral Gables.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, it is a crazy coincidence. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: give myself a four here. Really, I'm going to give

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Speaker 1: myself a four because you could not watch a Miami

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Speaker 1: broadcast without at least being mentioned once Okay, so that's

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Speaker 1: very specific to Miami games. The problem though, is how

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Speaker 1: many big Miami broadcasts were there, like Big Nash on

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Speaker 1: the national stage, Notre Dame, Notre Dame. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: the Bowl game?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: They ever? He got attention on signing day they signed

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Speaker 1: a real nice class.

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Speaker 2: My my initial thought was three.

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Speaker 1: Okay, why three? Just because Miami was not in the

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Speaker 1: constant conversations.

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Speaker 2: I'll take a three. I feel like a three, but

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Speaker 2: no lower than a three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't take lower than the three because it

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Speaker 1: was consistent.

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Speaker 2: I a way bad only giving you a three for that.

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Speaker 2: This is another tweeer for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was consistent, But how consistently.

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Speaker 2: Were we all watching Miami games, that's right, or at

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Speaker 2: least listening to Miami broadcasts or taking Yeah, I feel

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Speaker 2: like that cooled off over the course of the season. See,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at yours just through three picks, and we

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Speaker 2: got a motor here because we're falling behind schedule. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but look, you've got a three to two and a three.

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Speaker 2: I've got a four to a one in a two.

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Speaker 2: I'd much rather have two threes than a four to

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Speaker 2: two and a one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got a lower floor, maybe a higher ceiling.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we're gonna snake back around Josh Rosen's

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen draft stock.

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Speaker 2: Rough rough year for the draft stock. He's not even

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Speaker 2: the draft stock king of Los Angeles. I'm not even

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Speaker 2: sure I heard the words draft mentioned in accordance with

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Speaker 2: Josh Rosen after like, well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was hurt halfway into the year.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, no one's even talking about Rosen.

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Speaker 1: Serious nerve damage. I think people are much more concerned.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be a new offense. So yet

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Speaker 1: again for UCLA, they fire fire Kennedy Palm, They're bringing

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Speaker 1: Jedfish more pro style again, though, I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 1: give myself a one.

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Speaker 2: This is a one.

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Speaker 1: It has to be a one.

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Speaker 2: This is a one. I was all in on Josh Rosen. Two.

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Speaker 2: I wanted Josh Rosen's draftstock on my team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh man, all right, let's circle back to you.

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Speaker 2: What do you got Christian McCaffrey's versatility?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Stanford sort of fell off a cliff attention wise

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you why I believe I came up

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Speaker 2: with this storyline. I'll tell you why I came up

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Speaker 2: with it and why I picked it. Okay, this is

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Speaker 2: one of those things like Tom Hammond's Random Factory. Just

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Speaker 2: some nervous Time'm using the word tick a lot on

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Speaker 2: this show, and I don't know why. Maybe it's my

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Speaker 2: own little tick coincidentally enough, but it is one of

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Speaker 2: those announcer things that they focus in on that they

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Speaker 2: just they can't get enough of. They can't help themselves

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Speaker 2: talking about how versatile this guy is. This may be

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Speaker 2: another Michigan State disrespect kind of situation where they mentioned

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Speaker 2: it a lot last year. Yeah, they didn't mention it

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Speaker 2: a lot this year because he was hurt. They will

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Speaker 2: talk about it a ton in the NFL now, absolutely well.

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Speaker 1: I think also part of this was there was so

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Speaker 1: much off the field Christian McCaffrey stuff as well. He

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Speaker 1: can play instruments, he's traveled, he's a great student, whatever.

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Speaker 2: So the versatility did not diminish. What diminished was the

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Speaker 2: coverage of said versatility.

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Speaker 1: I might give you a one here, This is a one.

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to take this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a one, A total bust pick here. Yeah, versatility,

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Speaker 2: and he's not any less versatil.

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Speaker 1: He got injured during the year. He had a ton

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Speaker 1: of quarterback troubles. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the one

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Speaker 1: really bad offense from Stanford for a chunk of that season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you got to take the one there. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's circle back. What you got for the next pick?

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Speaker 2: Hype for a recently unsuccessful Pac twelve school. Okay, this

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Speaker 2: is a two for Tuesday here. Yes, even though it's

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Speaker 2: a Wednesday. That would be USC and Washington. I feel

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Speaker 2: like I kind of have both here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, neither one. USC has been relatively successful recently.

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Speaker 2: They had six losses a year ago. That's true, Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, Washington, of course, you know, made the playoff.

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Speaker 2: They were a great team this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The hype I feel very quickly turned into real world

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Speaker 2: Oh this team is good?

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Speaker 1: Right, I don't. Okay, So aside from my own personal

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Speaker 1: generate the PAC twelve, especially the PAC twelve North with

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Speaker 1: Stanford and Oregon sort of quickly, even though Stanford finished

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Speaker 1: with ten wins, sort of taking themselves out. Stanford got

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Speaker 1: completely murdered by Washington. Oregon was a total train wreck

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Speaker 1: last year, while Zoo was pretty good, but nobody really

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Speaker 1: had a concept for them, and they themselves have a

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Speaker 1: ton of hype because of their early season losses. I

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Speaker 1: was at Poise State and Eastern Washington. Oregon State was

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Speaker 1: a wreck until the end of the season. Cal was

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Speaker 1: a wreck all year long. The problem with Washington had

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Speaker 1: which they lost. So after they lost that USC game,

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Speaker 1: people said like, Okay, they're still probably in a good

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Speaker 1: position to get to the playoff. But people this, listen,

447
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Speaker 1: I'm going to trust you better than I because I

448
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Speaker 1: am biased as an Oregon fan. Were people enthused about

449
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Speaker 1: Jake Browning and Chris Peterson and Washington. I think people

450
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Speaker 1: just sort of accepted the fact that there was a

451
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Speaker 1: good shot that they'd beat in the playoff.

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Speaker 2: They accepted it, and I feel like they accepted it

453
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Speaker 2: almost by default, right by default, because we talked about it.

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Speaker 2: How many times did we talk about this, Dan, Yeah,

455
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Speaker 2: it was very apparent last five weeks of the season,

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Speaker 2: six weeks of the season, we knew who was going

457
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Speaker 2: to be in the playoff, right I mean they were

458
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Speaker 2: going to have Colorado or Wazoo, and generally speaking, who

459
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Speaker 2: was going to be in the Penn State. Injection this

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Speaker 2: energy of Penn State into that conversation was interesting, but no,

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Speaker 2: I think by and large we kind of knew that

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Speaker 2: the hype was more than just hype fairly early on

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Speaker 2: with Washington. Here is why I'm inclined to give myself

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Speaker 2: a three.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll listen, because I have you down as a

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Speaker 1: two for this.

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Speaker 2: Say three is because there was a lot of late

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Speaker 2: season hype that built on USC. Okay, and now as

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Speaker 2: we enter into the off season at Ross Bowl, it's

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Speaker 2: going to be at a fever pitch yep. I feel

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Speaker 2: like I got in on the coattails there of the USC.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of Washington early, a lot more USC

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Speaker 2: late after a tough one in three start. Yeah, kind

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Speaker 2: of not much in the middle.

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Speaker 1: I'll give it too for USC the USC W Like.

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Speaker 1: I feel like USC is like at a two and

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Speaker 1: Washington's at like a one. So because the actual category

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Speaker 1: is hype for a recently unsuccessful Pac twelve school, but

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Speaker 1: is it for recent Pact twelve school or Pack twelve schools?

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Speaker 1: I have singular down here? Oh, I have single down here?

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Speaker 2: Wow? So so do I? Wow. So USC didn't have

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Speaker 2: hype till the end of the year. They had a

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Speaker 2: complete vacuum of hype.

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Speaker 1: Early.

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Speaker 2: We need like the ninth circuit court of a pipe

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Speaker 2: to figure this out.

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Speaker 1: Does yours say school or schools?

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Speaker 2: It says school, It says school unsuccessful? But it does.

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Speaker 1: I correct, it didn't mine. But we're not talking. But

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Speaker 1: is it the hype that we're talking about? Hype could

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Speaker 1: be plural, right, wow, But but the fact that it's

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Speaker 1: hype hype for a school?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: What do you think I early on with Michigan State disrespect,

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Speaker 1: I said spirit of the and listen, you can.

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Speaker 2: Go either way with spirit of the pick was Washington

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Speaker 2: right at the time. Okay, spirit of the pick was Washington.

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Speaker 2: So you're thinking one.

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Speaker 1: No, Well I said two. You said three. I said two.

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Speaker 2: I'll go too, Okay two. It is grinding me down. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got some mad reads here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what are we have?

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Speaker 2: Blue? Apron? Ever hear blue? Op? Oh my god, I

504
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 2: am actually getting very hungry. What will time mispronounce? It is?

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Speaker 2: It is later in the day five forty four to

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Speaker 2: be exact, in a Wednesday. People will be amazed at

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Speaker 2: how quickly we turn this around. Be out by ten pm,

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Speaker 2: maybe a little later tonight. But I am hungry right now.

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Speaker 2: I could go for some Blue Apron right now. Oh

510
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: Apron knocked on the door right here and said, we

511
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Speaker 2: want you to cook up some cashew chicken stir fry

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Speaker 2: with tango mandarins and jasmine rice. I would say, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'll be all about that. But here is the way

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Speaker 2: this works. Basically, you sign up for a Blue Apron and

515
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Speaker 2: they will deliver fresh ingredients to your doorstep. They can

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Speaker 2: delivered a ninety nine percent of the United States ninety

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Speaker 2: nine point five percent hell yeah, of food deserts. So

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Speaker 2: no matter where you are, they they can hit you up,

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Speaker 2: make pre portioned ingredients, stand no food waste. Cook together

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Speaker 2: as a family, builds lasting relationships to cooks. That's what

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Speaker 2: they do. And now, how much she thinks something like.

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Speaker 1: This costs twenty dollars. Now they're shipping it right to you.

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Speaker 1: That's a good deal for fifteen or twenty bucks. How

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Speaker 1: much are we talking.

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Speaker 2: We're talking less than ten dollars per person per meal.

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Speaker 2: If you want a really good meal, it's a lot

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Speaker 2: more than that if you go out to eat, It's true,

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Speaker 2: less than ten dollars per person per meal Blue Apron.

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Speaker 2: They will deliver all the ingredients, everything you need and

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Speaker 2: easy to follow recipes from over what one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty local farms, ranches, fisheries all across the good old

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Speaker 2: US of A again, right to your door. They will

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Speaker 2: ship exactly what you need home cooked meals in forty

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Speaker 2: minutes or less, for less than ten dollars per person

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Speaker 2: per meal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something great about knowing what's going into your food.

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Speaker 1: We all like takeout, we all like going out to eat,

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Speaker 1: but like you to treat yourself right, you should you

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Speaker 1: should create make something.

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Speaker 2: In addition to the cashew chicken stir fry which I've

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Speaker 2: already bestowed upon you.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 2: Oudon noodle soup with miso and soft boiled eggs. Hm.

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Speaker 2: I've never had a soft boiled egg. Really, I have

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Speaker 2: no idea what that is, deliciou, how do they? What

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Speaker 2: is that?

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Speaker 1: It's just inside it's not so you know what a

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Speaker 1: hard boiled Yes, of course inside it's just softer.

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Speaker 2: It's just not you don't boil it as long, literally

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Speaker 2: softer it is a literal softer boil. Is it runny?

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Speaker 1: It's runnier?

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Speaker 2: Okay, interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 2: Roasted pork with apple walnut and farrow salad. You know

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Speaker 2: a farrow is no idea, Really, it's sort of it's

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Speaker 2: a grain. It's like a bulgar wheat kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: And crispy barrel munday with quenewa and roasted carrot salad.

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Speaker 2: No idea. What bear Monday is?

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Speaker 1: It's bar mundy bear Monday.

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Speaker 2: Don't know. I'm not positive it's a fish, a fish

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Speaker 2: type of fish.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get all that. No delivery, absolutely, they'll

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Speaker 1: live and tell you how to cook it. Ty, I

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Speaker 1: pulled something up. Where where should they go for this?

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Speaker 1: By the way, is there a password?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, password is blue Apron dot Com slash solid. Done,

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Speaker 2: Blue Apron dot Com slash solid. You'll get your first

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Speaker 2: three meals for free with free shipping.

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Speaker 1: All right, Ty on my computer screen. I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: this every ting, every single time Blue Apron has an

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Speaker 1: ad read with us. Yeah, okay, I'm going to bring

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Speaker 1: up a food word, foreign food word, foreign food, foreign

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Speaker 1: food word, and you have to tell me how you

574
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Speaker 1: think it's pronounced. I'm gonna put you on the spot here.

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Speaker 2: I made words. So but this is this is.

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Speaker 1: This is a baked egg dish from the Middle East. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what is that first word in the recipe headline?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Give me Middle East or norwigin jack Shuka, shock shuka.

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Speaker 1: You did pretty good shock shuka. Okay, just it's really

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Speaker 1: that was the only game. That's the only game. If

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Speaker 1: it's very good. Baked eggs in the sauce.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful, sounds delightful. I like the picture.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh. The other paying sponsor this evening is our good

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Speaker 1: Uh huh?

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Speaker 2: How many compliments I've gotten?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be telling I was in Mexico City. We

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Speaker 1: He's like, I need a new watch. And also my

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Speaker 1: This is one hundred percent true. He also tried on

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Speaker 1: But it was the watching jacket and it's my mvmcha.

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Speaker 2: I gotta watch how out I say this. I don't

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Speaker 1: on my wrist.

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Speaker 1: that I would freak out more. I am so bad

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Speaker 1: with my hands and so like to look at a

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Speaker 1: microscopic backing of a watch and like, oh you have

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Speaker 1: to create a timepiece. I would just look at it

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Speaker 1: and as if it were a microscopic lego and go

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Speaker 1: foh no, no, no, I would that would terrorize me.

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Speaker 2: Cool little microscopic thing that you wear on you don't

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Speaker 2: want to know. That's why I'm glad mvmt's around so

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Speaker 2: I don't have to do any of that. Huh. Okay,

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Speaker 2: well check them out. Nice watches. Dan's got one on.

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Speaker 2: It really makes him a better person and I can

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Speaker 2: see that visually, yep, seated across. Okay, now we left

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Speaker 2: off at hype for a recently unsuccessful.

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Speaker 1: You got a deuce for that.

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Speaker 2: Uh that brings us to your pick and Dan, oh man, Dan,

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Speaker 2: do we have a first five? Hear me smiling here?

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Speaker 2: Charlie Strong's Dower Die season was a pick for you.

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Speaker 1: I gotta gett. I did give myself a five.

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Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah.

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Speaker 1: Every single week ends up and this is nothing I enjoy.

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Speaker 1: I don't like when people lose their jobs. Luckily, Charlie

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Speaker 1: Strong was able to land someplace that's I think as

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Speaker 1: good a non Power five job as there is because

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Speaker 1: of where it's located in their recent success at USF.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of consistency, in terms of how much

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Speaker 1: Charlie Strong was spoken of nationally, locally, regionally, I think

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Speaker 1: we have our first five with Charlie Strong Steward I.

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Speaker 2: See in Texas. What makes this pick beautiful?

664
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

665
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: Value pick too, value, pick fifth round. Yeahd damn, you're

666
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: like the New England Patriots.

667
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: Listen, it's all about value.

668
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: Here is what makes this pick beautiful.

669
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I like how you say beautyful.

670
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm doing. I'm doing the Yeah, this is the Trump thing.

671
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: I'm doing. I'm doing the Trump thing with my.

672
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: So you're raising three fingers. It's an eg now.

673
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the iOS kids, what makes this pick beautiful

674
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: is the fact that Charlie Strong not only usually do

675
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: or die is a figure of speech. Yeah, he both

676
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: did and died in the same season.

677
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: What can I tell you?

678
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: There were moments this season where it looked like he

679
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: was gonna hold onto the show.

680
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: There were specific drives that were do or drives for

681
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: Charlie Strong. It was such a micro level pick, and.

682
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: There were obvious points throughout the course of the season

683
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: where he was legitimately dead. Yeah, then came back to

684
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: life and then went back to being dead.

685
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: This is true.

686
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a five. This would be a six.

687
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: The fact that they started out beating Notre Dame in

688
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: the fashion that they did. There was the do, there

689
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: was the do. Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas was the die. Yeah.

690
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: So I mean we've got it all in one pick.

691
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna hand myself a five.

692
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: This is not the best value pick though, No, I

693
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: don't believe it is. My last round pick is is

694
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: pretty good.

695
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: It's wonderful.

696
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if it will be enough to put

697
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: me over the top. Right now, you're coming in, all right.

698
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: So my second pick here is the internet freaking out

699
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: over a Southern QB's girlfriend. Okay, who is it? Shaye Patterson,

700
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: Shape Patterson. We had early on Trevor Knight with the

701
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: Duck Dynasty. We had Blake Barnett is dating some sort

702
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: of professional surfer from southern California.

703
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: Blake Barnett.

704
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe not Shape Patterson. Here's the other thing, though, Tye,

705
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: where I don't think you've calculated, and I'm going to

706
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: ask you for your consideration. I haven't decided how I

707
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: feel about it. This is going to be very personal

708
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: to you too.

709
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: Personal.

710
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Rodgers is.

711
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: A Southern QB, but I think the spirit of it

712
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: is active Southern QB active Southern QB.

713
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: Right, wow, because we are just talking about freaking out.

714
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: You put a new spin on this dance. So Jordan

715
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: Rodgers was the Bachelor, Bachelor, Winner, Bachelorette. He won JoJo's

716
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: heart on The Bachelor.

717
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: A Bachelorette, so he was one of many okay.

718
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: Are friends over at my brother. My brother and me

719
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: would refer to this as a very serious zag that

720
00:32:59,400 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: you've done to me.

721
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: I have zagged. So here's here's why I'm not going

722
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: to accept it. It is about an active quarterback, and

723
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: it is the freak out is like if you go

724
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: to like busted coverage or one of those sites where

725
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: it's just like you have to check out you know

726
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: this text A and M, this Auburn, this Florida state whatever.

727
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: That was the spirit of it. So I'm not going

728
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: to accept the Jordan rod If we were to accept

729
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: the Jordan Rodgers element. Also, the it's sort of like

730
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: the object It's like the person being objectified is this

731
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: is the girlfriend, which is not cool at all, but

732
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: in the Bachelorette turnaround, in the Bachelorette zag, it is

733
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: Jordan Rodgers who's being objectified. So it is this beautiful

734
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: what's her name? Jojo Jojo? So so Jordan Rodgers was

735
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: the object of JoJo's affection. So I don't feel like

736
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: Jordan Rodgers was being put on websites as you can't

737
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: believe who Jojo is dating and pictures of Jordan Rodgers.

738
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to accept it put it as

739
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: a zag.

740
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: This is part of the reason why we're america Most

741
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: honest college Football podcast. I was voted my senior year

742
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: of high school most honest. Okay, either that or I'm

743
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 2: a great liar. But we're trying to bring honesty here.

744
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: That's true, and I appreciate that.

745
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'm just saying I considered it if it

746
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: was gonna be, if it was going to make its

747
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: way through, that was a definite five.

748
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: What do we give it? Man?

749
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: I think I don't think it was a needle moving year.

750
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: As for attention, like if it were a J. McCarron

751
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: Catherine White year, I would have gone five. Catheryne Webb,

752
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: excuse me, Catherine Webb? How quickly we forget that's true.

753
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to give myself a three because I thought

754
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: it was there was the consistent drum beat, But I

755
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: don't think.

756
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: Anybody really spiked the needle. Okay, So are you good

757
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: with the three for that? A three feels a little aggressive? Really?

758
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: Okay? But I see the problem is I don't think

759
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: either one of us really patronizes, patronized or whatever reads

760
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: the sites that are posting.

761
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: This all that often. I'll give you a three, Dan, Okay,

762
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the three. I'll give you a three

763
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: because I'm a nice guy.

764
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it.

765
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: Okay. O.

766
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: Man, if only Blake Barnett had held onto his starting position,

767
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: I would have definitely had four.

768
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: All right. That brings us to me, what do you

769
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: have an attacking mentality?

770
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: Okay?

771
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: So here's what's interesting about this. The reason I brought

772
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: this up is because every year there are teams who

773
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: get a new defensive coordinator. And what does every defensive coordinator,

774
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: every new defensive coordinator want to bring to the table

775
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: that his predecessor did not have?

776
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: Can I tell you we are going to bring pressure

777
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: with an aggressive attacking mentality?

778
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: Thank you? Yeah, thank you. They all want to have

779
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: an attacking mental bring a lot of pressure, and it

780
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: seems as if they all say that. Now, what's fascinating

781
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: to me about this is at least through half of

782
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: the season, this got more points than hype for a

783
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: recently unsuccessful school, more points than Bill Hancock's bullshit, and

784
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: one fewer point than Tom Herman co rumors. This did

785
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: surprisingly well through at least the halfway point. Hm, I

786
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: would not have, in my wildest dreams imagine a situation

787
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 2: in which I'd be thinking about maybe giving this a four. Okay,

788
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 2: but I could probably build a strong case for giving

789
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: this a four. What is your caseuse?

790
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: This is a pick centered around December, when new defensive

791
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: coordinators are being hired.

792
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: Right December January. It's centered around that, but it's also

793
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: center around August when everyone is talking to the.

794
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: Me a new defensive coordinator. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

795
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: So my case for it is that this came up

796
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: a lot more in the early part of September than

797
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: I expected. Okay, with that in mind, I can't in

798
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 2: good faith give this a four, But I can't give

799
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: it a three.

800
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm okay with three because if I were

801
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: to ask you right now, who in December or early

802
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: January was a defensive coordinator higher that everybody like, sir

803
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: so going into the season. Bob it was a Bob

804
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: Shoop who everybody was given us links, was talking about

805
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: having an attacking mentality. I don't feel like there was

806
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: a big enough higre as I look across you know, LSU.

807
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: They keep Dave Veranda, so there is not that huge

808
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: press conference Todd Orlando. I don't think there was a

809
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: big word about being more attacking and more aggressive for

810
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: Texas at Oregon. Jim Levitt, you know, he's a big personality,

811
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: but I don't feel like there was. Maybe I missed it.

812
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't feel like there was that initial burst of aggressive, attacking,

813
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: bring pressure quote wise. So I feel like it was consistent,

814
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 1: but I didn't hear it from huge names all over

815
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: the place. So three feels right, Okay, consistent but not consistent,

816
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: drum beat but not loud.

817
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: Okay, that gives me three. That gives me thirteen overall.

818
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

819
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 2: So you've got like one in hand here and you

820
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: still got seven. Yeah, so you're you're gonna come on

821
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 2: top here. This one, I feel could be a spirited debate. Okay,

822
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 2: I'm ready, Texas A and M's quarterbacks heads are falling.

823
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: So this is my second This was a good one.

824
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: This was your sixth round selection. Yeah, what is the

825
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: origin of this pick?

826
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: The origin of the pick is both Kyle Allen and

827
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray transferred in very short time away from Texas

828
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: A and M giving them I believe at the time

829
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: it was just JQ Hubeck, Hubaneck whatever Cubanc and then

830
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: Trevor Knight eventually used his grad transfer year to move

831
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: south from Norman to College Station and took over and

832
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: at least solidified things in terms of depth charts and

833
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: having multiple quarterbacks play. He does get hurt against Mississippi State.

834
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: They're going to rely on some young quarterbacks moving forward,

835
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: but this one peaked early. I think I have to

836
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: give myself nothing higher than a two.

837
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go I was going to say one

838
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: or two. Yeah, I'll be generous. I'll go too.

839
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take it.

840
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: We'll go to Okay, move to you, move to me.

841
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: See this is where I think there's going to be

842
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: some spirited debate. You want to go back and forth here? Yeah, okay.

843
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 2: Mine was My next pick was Ohio State's attrition.

844
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

845
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: I feel like this one was dead. I tried to

846
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: warn you. I feel like it was dead. There was

847
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: a little bit of action up front. Yeah, people talking

848
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 2: about this. There was a little bit of action late,

849
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: people talking about how much how much of an impact

850
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: Ohio State players would have on the draft in twenty seventeen.

851
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 2: This is a one.

852
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. I think one is right. The worst

853
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: thing that could have happened for this pick was Ohio

854
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: State blowing out Oklahoma. Yes, it was the worst thing

855
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: that could have happened. And thank you Noah Brown, thank

856
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: you Samuel Weber Brown. They had a huge offensive game,

857
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: they shut down for the most part, a very good.

858
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 2: O' the twenty four years, right, we'll score of that game. Yeah,

859
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm with you.

860
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: And what the funny thing is, though, the story about

861
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: Ohio State, in terms of narratives from my Long Island friends,

862
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: is the overarching thing with Ohio State this year was

863
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: what is wrong with Ohio State and especially what is

864
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: wrong with JT. Barrett, which was the opposite of attrition.

865
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: So the worst thing was the Oklahoma bludgeting. So that's

866
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: why I would agree with that. And we made a

867
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: sound for the baby buck Eyes.

868
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: We had this whole little shtick worked up, and it

869
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 2: was proof positive that you can't plan these things.

870
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: The problem is with that pick in retrospect, Ohio State

871
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: recruits far too well to really hone in on attrition.

872
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you live, you learn what was a later

873
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: round pick. It's true I took a flyer on it.

874
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 2: You absolutely didn't quite pan out. All right, let's go

875
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: back to you then. Okay, this is one I did

876
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: not keep keep tabs on.

877
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna verify things right now.

878
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: So you picked country singer on game day? Yes, this

879
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 2: is a staple. It happens at least once a year.

880
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: Who who is the guy who just likes every team?

881
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: Kenny Chesney?

882
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: Yes?

883
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 2: Was Chesney on this year? Do we know.

884
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: He had to have been? But I'm going to go through.

885
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to go through.

886
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: So let's see, that's two thousand guest pickers. Oh, this

887
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: is not doing it. This is just names. Do we

888
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 2: have a good list anywhere on the internet?

889
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure there is. I'm gonna find game day ESPN.

890
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: We're gonna use Wikipedia college game day locales. Man, I

891
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: need to find the guest pickers. Let's oh, here we go.

892
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: I should be able to have.

893
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: So let's put it this way. We don't we don't

894
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: need to boil this down to an exact science. It's

895
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: not a one because there's always a country singer on

896
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: game day, and if there's not a country singer, we

897
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: could do another bit of a zag and say that

898
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: it's got something to do with the game day intro.

899
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a guest picker spirit though where is

900
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: So there's some website called Cole's Game Day Blog. Shout

901
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: out to Cole and he lists it here. So it

902
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 1: was twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen.

903
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen.

904
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm not very good, so I can tell you all

905
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: of the guests, Okay, okay, So Aaron Rodgers definitely not

906
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: a country. How many weeks with their fifteen sixteen seventeen weeks?

907
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: How many country singers would we need for that for

908
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: it to be a legitimate like three?

909
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: Like four pickers? I would say four? Four?

910
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: Okay. We had Dale Earnhardt Junior, not a country center tangential,

911
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: but not a country singer. Laila Ali as far as

912
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: I know, not a country singer. Steve Spurrier, not a

913
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: country singer. Phillip Fulmer. No, Eric Church is that a

914
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: country I.

915
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: Believe, so that'd be one.

916
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: So there's one.

917
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chain Smokers definitely not, definitely not. Do you like

918
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: the Chance Smokers. I like one song by the Chean Smokers.

919
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: I think their secret garbage or maybe they're out in

920
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: the open garbage. I don't know. I don't like them

921
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: at all.

922
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: I don't think that. I think the problem with the

923
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: Chain Smokers is that they have the one guy part

924
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 2: of the Chain Smokers who thinks he can sing. Chain

925
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: Steve Chain is that Steve Chang, Steve Chain, he thinks

926
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 2: he can sing. But Steve Chain and the smoke, I

927
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: think he's in it for the girls. But that's just

928
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 2: my theory.

929
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: Same uh Rick Flair not a country singer. Verne lundquiz

930
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: not a country singer. Frank Caliendo not a country singer.

931
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: Lil Wayne has he done a country duet? Not going

932
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: to count it, spirit Joel McHale not a country singer.

933
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: Greg Jennings not a country singer. That's it.

934
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: So it's a one.

935
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: That's a one, all right. It was a very soft

936
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: year for country singers. On Game day.

937
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: Back to me, yep, I have this in quotations. What

938
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: do you have this year's Iowa? Okay, this is a one.

939
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: It's got to be one. This is a one who

940
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: was there. The spirit of this pick was that there's

941
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: going to be an underdog team that is going to

942
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 2: be referred to no right week schedule, Sorry Iowa fans,

943
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: but week schedule they run their way through it. They

944
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 2: somehow burst into well here was the problem. National conversation

945
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: on the heels of that.

946
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: The problem was there was a team in their division

947
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: who was formidable and in it till the end, and

948
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: people weren't fully sure if they were going to be

949
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: able to run the table. The problem is Wisconsin is

950
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: a bigger brand of football than Iowa. So you can't

951
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: say out of nowhere because Wisconsin's played in a bunch

952
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: of rose balls recently.

953
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: If if one weren't the absolute floor here, yeah, I

954
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 2: would give it a zero. This bad pick, bad bad pick.

955
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking here. Yeah, it wasn't going to be you

956
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: know what, but even Nebraska, you can't say Nebraska is

957
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: like to come from nowhere. Isn't playing anybody? They played

958
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: Oregon early on in.

959
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: The traditional blue blood national right championsh of caliber programs.

960
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: Like it would have had to have been from here.

961
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: It would have to be Illinois, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue. I

962
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: would have taken teams in another conference. It had to

963
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: have been like NC State something like that. Didn't happen,

964
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: not a not a dig on n C State, but

965
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, not nothing the biggest brand name.

966
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: So that's a one.

967
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: That's a one.

968
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: All right?

969
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: Are we going back to me? Back to you locker

970
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: room coach dancing? Oh okay, who is big this year?

971
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: So I'm not had coach dancing thing, So you had

972
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: big speeches. The Dino Babers thing was big, but not

973
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: a dance. The Dino Baber's speech was large. PJ. Fleck

974
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: animated inspiring to the Western Michigan team. Row the boat,

975
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: row that boat. But the coach dancing thing there was

976
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of dabbo. There was a little bit

977
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: of this. I don't feel like it had this sort

978
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: of attention that it did the year before.

979
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: So one, I think I'm also going to give that

980
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: a one. Two straight ones are not good for my

981
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 2: bottom line. All right, back to me. Weird neutral site games. Okay,

982
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: this has to be at least a two. Okay, I

983
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: could go higher, give me your case. The weirdest of

984
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: the weird was the game between Virginia Tech and Tennessee

985
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: at Bristol Motor Speedway or that was a weird one

986
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: Cal Hawaiian in Australia, Cal Hawaii in Australia. Yeah, the

987
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 2: week before the first week of the College Boss. It

988
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: wasn't just weird neutral site games in venue. We just

989
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: had like a lot of odd matchups. Didn't Mississippi go

990
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: or Mississippi State go up to play like Boston College yea,

991
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: excuse me in it yeah, same same wow. But we

992
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: had a lot of games like that that just it

993
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: wasn't so much that they were playing on like a

994
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: cruise ship, but they were just two teams that you

995
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't expect to be playing each other. True, So I'm

996
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: inclined to go three. Yeah, I'd take a three because

997
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 2: the Bristol Motor speed thing, but that like we knew

998
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: that going in like LSU Wisconsin just doesn't feel like.

999
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel i'd give you more enthusiastically the three.

1000
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: And this is obviously your false. Notre Dame had a

1001
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: garbage season and they where did they play this year?

1002
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: They played a weird game in Jacksonville, Army. Yeah, they

1003
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: played a game it was San Antonio. Yeah, I feel

1004
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 2: like it's a three. I'll give you the three.

1005
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: It definitely was a weird year, but like, yeah, it's

1006
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: a scheduled thing.

1007
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, all right back to you. This is

1008
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: your last one, then.

1009
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: College stadium is selling beer. I didn't hear a peep

1010
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: about this during the season.

1011
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 2: You picked this one because it was the last pick available, yes,

1012
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: you had.

1013
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: I had no enthusiasm for this.

1014
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: Pick, none whatsoever. So this is this is a one?

1015
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: Kay? Was there were there any good beer stories from

1016
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: the season.

1017
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: Dennis Dodd wrote one very early on, very early on

1018
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: about it, but it was not a controversial take. It

1019
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: was were akin to, hey, you're going to see more

1020
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 2: stadium selling beer. The reason that we put this one

1021
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 2: on the docket was because we thought, and I believe

1022
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: we described it as such, that there would be a

1023
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 2: crotchety old man column from some guy in like des Moines,

1024
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: not to single out anyone into moy, there was gonna

1025
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: be some crotchety old white sports writer, yeah, bitching and

1026
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 2: moaning about the kids.

1027
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: So what I really needed for this pick, I really

1028
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: needed one of the stadiums to have like a revolt,

1029
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: and I needed like beer thrown on the field, you know,

1030
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: everybody's throwing their their plastic hands of beer or something

1031
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: like that. I needed that big seminal moment of stadium

1032
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: beer injecting itself into a game, and I just didn't

1033
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: get it. I just didn't get it.

1034
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: Okay, this is going to come down to the wire. Yeah,

1035
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable that it's going to come down to this.

1036
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: Okay.

1037
00:48:54,200 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: My final selection was titled second guessing. Brian Kelly went

1038
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: on a lot this season. I think this is we

1039
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: can debate this a little bit though it's at least

1040
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: a four.

1041
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: I think that's okay. I think at least a four

1042
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: is good. I can argue three a little bit because

1043
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: of how bad Notre Dame was and how little they

1044
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: were talked about outside of like what's wrong with Notre Dame?

1045
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: What happened to Notre Dame's powerful defense? You know, they

1046
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: have this returning quarterback that everybody thinks is a first

1047
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: round pick. They have this defense that people I think

1048
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: we're still pretty high on considering the talents, even with

1049
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: injuries in the secondary. It felt like it was more

1050
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 1: of a defensive story, which is not Brian Kelly's purview.

1051
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: It was a defensive story. Both literally and figurative true,

1052
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: because Brian Kelly was very defensive. Yes, just as a

1053
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: human being. About where this whole season went. So initially

1054
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: it was the defense, right, they get rid of Brian

1055
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: van Gorter. Defense stinks, Then they get rid of Brian Kelly,

1056
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: or excuse me, I need to be very careful. They

1057
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 2: get rid of Brian van Gord, Yes, and then Notre

1058
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: Dame keeps losing.

1059
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: Right, but not necessarily because of the defense.

1060
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: The defense solidified, not because of the defense, but primarily

1061
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 2: because they couldn't get all facets of their team firing

1062
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: on all cylinders in the same game. They had a

1063
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: couple of good games, but not many because it went

1064
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: four and eight down the stretch. Then it started to

1065
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: become every one second guessing Brian Kelly as head football

1066
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 2: coach for this football team, will he retain his job now?

1067
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: I can't honestly say, as somebody who follows noting very closely,

1068
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: that there was ever a real moment where I thought

1069
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: they were going to fire him. I do believe his

1070
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 2: seat has warmed, sure, and his seat is tepid. I

1071
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: still cannot bring myself to a point just in any

1072
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: reality in which I honestly believe they're going to get

1073
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: rid of him. I think Brian Kelly's going to leave

1074
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: on his own volition, if he leaves at all. But

1075
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: there was plenty of second guessing for Brian Kelly. So

1076
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: at a minimum this is a four. It could be

1077
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 2: a five.

1078
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: I struggle to see the case for a five, just

1079
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: because who outside of you know, Notre Dame fans in

1080
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: the last month month and a half of the season,

1081
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: who was talking about Notre Dame beyond like, you know,

1082
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: everybody that beats Notre Dame loses, you know, every Notre

1083
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: Dame sort of a disaster, but like nobody, I don't

1084
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: think people were going super in depth about what was

1085
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: wrong with not They're not.

1086
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 2: Going in depth. But Notre Dame was a laughing stock.

1087
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: They were a laughing stock in the way that Feurig

1088
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: and eight Oregon was not a laughing stock. And I

1089
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 2: know that because our friends right here at espnation dot com.

1090
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 1: Yes, that's true.

1091
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: Friends, Matt Brown, who I love and adore and poke

1092
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: fun at and have no real malae towards. Okay, I know, Matt, Yeah,

1093
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 2: but you guys even look alike a little bit. Yeah,

1094
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: he was making the Foreign eight jokes. Richard Johnson, another

1095
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: guy whom I adore, who does great work for espenation

1096
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: dot com making the four and eight jokes jokes regularly.

1097
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: You could count all of that tangentially as part of

1098
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: this second guessing. Brian Kelly, Ah, you could if you

1099
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 2: had drafted Notre Dame jokes.

1100
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: That's a shoe in five. I don't think saying, but

1101
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: remember Notre Dame is four and eight is actively second guessing.

1102
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly, I'll give you a four. I will take

1103
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: a four.

1104
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: Okay, take your four.

1105
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: Here's why that's interesting. That gives me twenty two. That

1106
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 2: gives you twenty two. All right, let's wrestle. Take off

1107
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: that shirt, let's wrestle, let's jelly up. You mean to

1108
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: tell me that we both finished with twenty two on

1109
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: our own arbitrary scoring.

1110
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: So I took three straight singles to finish this out

1111
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: country singer on game day, locker room coach, dancing, college

1112
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: stadium selling beer. You finished with one, three and four

1113
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: this year's IOWA weird neutral site games. Second guessing, Brian Kelly.

1114
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: The problem, the only problem I have with this with

1115
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: your end scoring is weird neutral site games. They don't

1116
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: come about during the season. They don't adjust during the

1117
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: season unless at some point the a venue is changed

1118
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 1: to something ridiculous because of weather or construction or act

1119
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: of God whatever. I can't not give you a three,

1120
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: but I don't know if that is a thing. That

1121
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: is something that you can either predict or not predict.

1122
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 1: So this is all a way of saying, let's wrestle.

1123
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: Let's wrestle, let's wrest Well, here's what we do. Yeah,

1124
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: we're an interactive tea. By the way, I am perfectly

1125
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: fine tying with you. Yeah, I'm perfectly comfortable losing tea.

1126
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: It's sort of very old school college football of us

1127
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: to tie exactly. Yeah, so let's throw it out. Let's

1128
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: let's make overtime be the foot ballers. Okay, all right,

1129
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 2: you can write in soliverable at gmail dot com. Yeah,

1130
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: make your case for any of the twenty different.

1131
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: What did we underscore?

1132
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: Overscore narratives that we rest here? Yeah, all right, we

1133
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: will go back through in the end, I'll give you

1134
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: the official tabulation of how all this shook out. Yeah,

1135
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: and you can write in, you can tweet us, you

1136
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: can facebook us. We will even post the scorecard I'll

1137
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 2: make a little scorecard up on Facebook. Go on there,

1138
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 2: go everywhere, and tell us where you think we were right,

1139
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: where we were wrong, but at least as it stands now.

1140
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: Time of recording, six fifteen on what is this February eight, Yeah,

1141
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: Wednesday the eighth, twenty seventeen, twenty two to twenty two.

1142
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: That's incredible, Wow, dead heat.

1143
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on news time.

1144
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 2: I don't have the soundboard with me, otherwise I'd.

1145
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:40,959
Speaker 1: Play yeah boo boo. Okay, So Sarc leaves Alabama after

1146
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: so Sarco's oh to one, Lane Kiffin goes what thirteen?

1147
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: And oh fourteen? And oh Blaine Given's and Fau Sark

1148
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: is at the Atlanta Falcons. Makes perfect sense, total sense.

1149
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: Sarc leaves after game. The word was that he and

1150
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: Nick Saban didn't particularly agree on many things, and it

1151
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: was better for all parties.

1152
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: Sabin and Kiffin were at odds. Sabin and Sark were

1153
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 2: at odds. Okay, laying Lane Kiffin, he lands on his feet,

1154
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 2: Sark lands on his feet. Nick Sabin here in a sense,

1155
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: has the bully pulpit because he is Nick Saban. Yeah,

1156
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 2: and because they're on a horde of national championships and

1157
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 2: continues to recruit well, win thirteen games a season, get

1158
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 2: to the playoff, gets the national championship, and if you

1159
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 2: coach for him, you are generally getting an even better job,

1160
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: or even a more powerful job out of it. For me,

1161
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 2: as a college football fan, I am less interested in

1162
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: Sark going to the Falcons and more interested in some

1163
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 2: of the rumored names I've heard, as two of the

1164
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: three are offensive coordinators, right, Mark Helfrich being one, chip

1165
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: Kelly being another. Yes, those are the two that I

1166
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 2: think have the most steam, and them obviously anything involving

1167
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly is going to pop in college football spheres.

1168
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: That to me would obviously be the most interesting, almost

1169
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 2: borderline unfair name. Yes, to put down there in Tuscaloosa.

1170
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: Are there any other names we've heard? No, there's it's

1171
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 2: There was one other name.

1172
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: I forget what it is right now. It did not

1173
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: have the same cachet with Bruce prop excuse me. Bruce

1174
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: Felman tweeted, out's Chris God say something like that? But

1175
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly would be enormous if he went to Alabama.

1176
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: Unfair. He wouldn't be there for longer than a year,

1177
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: but he could install something that would reap benefits for

1178
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 2: years to come, especially with a mobile quarterback in Jalen Hurts. Yes,

1179
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: you know that's sort of his calling card, with.

1180
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: A mobile quarterback in Jalen Hurts, who, by the way,

1181
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: Mark Helfrich would also be a pretty big boon, although

1182
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: it is a year with a lot of turnover recruiting

1183
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: wise for Alabama. In terms of the coaches who have

1184
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: left who have been successful recruiters led by Mario crystobaal

1185
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: Mark Halfritch is not necessarily known as a huge recruiter,

1186
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: whereas Chip Kelly, I think could could succeed.

1187
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Yeah, if we're going to

1188
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: talk strategery here on the show, please, if you are

1189
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: Nick Saban and you have your pick between Hip Kelly

1190
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: and Mark Helfrich George George Gotzi, if you have your

1191
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 2: pick between those two ex Oregon head football coaches, do

1192
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: you take Chip Kelly because you feel he is superior

1193
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: schematically and also probably an exact body, double exact mind,

1194
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: double mind meld of Nick Saban in his you know

1195
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: how thorough and detailed specific reality, but you know he's

1196
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 2: only gonna be their year, right, Or do you take

1197
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: Mark Helfrich whom probably at least three similar sensibilities, but

1198
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 2: will be there a little bit longer.

1199
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: I think Helfrich. I think Helfrich because he'll install a

1200
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: lot of what Oregon did offensively. You can recruit without him.

1201
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still I think a decent recruiter. He's

1202
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: just not He doesn't have the force of personality of

1203
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: a successful head coach at a huge place like Oregon.

1204
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: I just it's not going to work out for Mark

1205
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: Helfrich at a place like that anytime soon. He is

1206
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: regarded as extremely nice and extraordinarily bright, like he is

1207
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: an ex's and o's savant. He's he's easy to get

1208
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: along with, which I think is where maybe Sark and

1209
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin were less so. So I think Helfrich would

1210
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: be able with a quarterback, which he's had. He has

1211
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: been a very good quarterback coach when he's had the

1212
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: actual talent to work with, and it was his fault

1213
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: he didn't at Oregon. The Chip thing, it would be

1214
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: very strong for a year, but it would burn out

1215
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: fast because Chip is going to go take like the

1216
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: UCLA job next year or something.

1217
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 2: God for there is undoubtedly a burning desire to go

1218
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: out and get the big fish and Chip Kelly. Yes,

1219
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: I would not fault Nick Saban if he wanted to

1220
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: go that time. I think, yeah, nobody would. Nobody would.

1221
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: And it's not as if Chip Kelly went from being

1222
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: a receivers coach to a head coach. Chip Kelly was

1223
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator at Oregon at New Hampshire like has

1224
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: that experience.

1225
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: It would be an absolute tourd of force if they

1226
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: bring him in. Yep, But there are no bad options

1227
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: if you're Nick Saban, and if you get Mark Helfrich

1228
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 2: that almost makes more sense long term.

1229
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: And who's to say. Mark Helfrich though, won't be available

1230
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: next year after Chip leaves, So maybe you do both.

1231
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: There you go, Maybe you hope for both. Okay, is

1232
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: there any other news? Yeah?

1233
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean there's a bunch of assistants leaving after signing day.

1234
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: I know Florida lost a pretty well regarded DB's coach,

1235
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: which is always a bummer because they hang around in

1236
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: a lot of their contracts are like just through signing

1237
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: day and then they take off, which again, kids commit

1238
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: to the school, commit to the school, don't commit to

1239
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: the coach if at all possible. You know, there's always

1240
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: rules changes that are involved with things. Oregon fired another

1241
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: assistant coach. He was in the car with the tight

1242
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: ends slash co offensive coordinator who was arrested for a

1243
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: duy who was let go, and he has moved on

1244
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: this receivers coach who is also in the car. He

1245
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: is now the receivers coach and like passing game coordinator

1246
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: for UCLA Jimmy Doherty. Harbog I was at Michigan last

1247
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: year as an offensive analyst, So a little bit of

1248
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: turmoil there.

1249
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 2: Still, Baylor fired a coach as part of a prostitution

1250
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 2: sting that he got caught up here.

1251
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: Strength coach Baylor, and the report came out about Baylor

1252
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: and it was just horrific. Yeah, I don't know what

1253
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: you do. It's it's beyond the NC double A. Still

1254
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: I feel I feel like the NC DOUBLEA has very little,

1255
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: if not any business meddling into legal affairs.

1256
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Matt rule. There's a reason they gave him

1257
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: more runway in a seven year contract.

1258
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1259
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: I wonder if.

1260
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: It was his strength coach though that followed him from coach.

1261
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: It was unfortunate and you know, just oddly coincidental that

1262
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 2: this would be the kind of thing that his guy

1263
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: would get tied up in down at Baylor, especially given

1264
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 2: all that's going on there. But I definitely had more

1265
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: than a handful of conversations with some friends who said, Wow,

1266
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 2: do you wish Matt Rule had had twice about this? Right?

1267
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if this would have changed the game.

1268
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: I think he knew what he was walking into. He's

1269
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: a bright guy. But is Matt Rule here's my question now,

1270
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: sorry to interrupt you, is Matt Rule Texas Bill O'Brien

1271
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: like if he immediately turns Baylor into if they go

1272
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: eight and four in twenty eighteen, nine and three and

1273
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, like they have a better than expected season.

1274
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: You know, he puts he's a solid presence in Waco.

1275
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 2: Everybody regards him really well, Like I think everybody regarded

1276
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien really well during.

1277
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: His brief time in state college. Is it a situation

1278
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: where yes, it's seven year deal, he goes nine and three,

1279
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: he's going to take like the A and M job,

1280
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: or he's going to take UCLA or coach their briefly,

1281
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: he's going to take James Franklin moves on, he takes

1282
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: the Penn State job. Do you think there's that possibility.

1283
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: I'd even thought of that because if let's say James

1284
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 1: Franklin has another we're going like we're playing dumb people

1285
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: chess right now. James Franklin has another extraordinary season, goes

1286
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: eleven and one, ten and two in twenty seven team

1287
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: and he takes The Eagles fans hate their coach already.

1288
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm assuming they do.

1289
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's his name, they do, Doug Peterson.

1290
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: Doug Peters like Peter they do, Okay.

1291
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 2: Probably only because they have Carson Wentz. Okay, so maybe

1292
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 2: they like Doug Peter.

1293
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: The Giants fans hate their coach Ben McAdoo.

1294
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 2: I think they they like Benett like Ben mcado Okay,

1295
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: let's say, you know, it's finally time for some NFL

1296
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: team to move on from their career. What I meant

1297
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 2: to say about Doug Peterson is Eagles fans always hate

1298
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: the coach. They don't hate him as much as they

1299
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: would normally because they really like Carson Wentz, right, and

1300
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: they really didn't like Chip Kelly. Correct.

1301
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: So there's okay. So let's say, whoever, some I.

1302
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 2: There there is a pre eminent job available in the Northeast. Yeah,

1303
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: is having success down in Waco. I could see a situation.

1304
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe Marvin Lewis moves on the Cincinnati wants to make.

1305
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 2: In which Matt Rule would leave. Okay after two years,

1306
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Speaker 2: two three years, ok As, do I see that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I could totally see that. But just a bad state

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Speaker 2: of affairs looks really bad for our brills. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: expect we're gonna see our Briells in the game, just

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Speaker 2: such scum at any point in time. Yeah, so that's

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Speaker 2: a tough tough pill to swallow if you're in the

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Speaker 2: Art Briles camp, say the least. Otherwise, though, I don't

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Speaker 2: do we have any other news. I think I think

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Speaker 2: that pretty much covers.

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Speaker 1: It, not too much, Okay, we have plenty of time

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Speaker 1: this offseason to hit any news we may have missed.

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Speaker 2: So again, here are my picks. Yeah, Tom Herman coaching

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Speaker 2: rumors four, Bill Hancock's bullshit one, Jim Harbaugh slash se

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Speaker 2: C feud two, Christian McCaffrey's versatility one yep, hype for

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Speaker 2: a recently unsuccessful Pac twelve school aka Washington. Yeah, that

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01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: was a two ye and attacking mentality three. Ohio State

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01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 2: attrition one. This year's Iowa and quotes. One weird neutral

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Speaker 2: site Games, three second Guessing Brian Kelly four.

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Speaker 1: Okay Mine our weekly ranking show. Three Michigan State disrespect

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Speaker 1: two Mark rick as a Miami alumnus. Three Josh Rosen's

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen draft stock one, Charlie Strong's Doeward I Season five,

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Speaker 1: Internet freak out of a Southern Quarterbacks girlfriend. Three Texas

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01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: A and M's quarterbacks heads are falling off. Two country

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Speaker 1: singer on game day. One locker room coach dancing, one

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Speaker 1: college stadium selling beer. One tell us who we have

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Speaker 1: perhaps over or underscored. Also, this has nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with anything. I cannot recommend Mexico City enough.

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01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah it is. We've been talked much about this.

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Speaker 1: Mexico City is amazing, and I mean the Spanish which helps.

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Speaker 1: I know a little bit of Spanish. But I went

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Speaker 1: with my brother and friend of the show Bill Barnwell,

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01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: who is the one who found the amazing rate that

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Speaker 1: we went on. It's going I've said this to a

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01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: number of people tie and it's going to sound stupid,

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01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: but it's the only way I can sort of put

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01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: this forth. There is so much Mexican food in Mexico city.

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Speaker 1: There is so because they're twenty million people.

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Speaker 2: Never would have known that.

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01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: But okay, every but it's it's not that there's so

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01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: much in terms of the percentage of food available as Mexican,

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01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: of course, but side streets there's just like random people

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01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: grilling up tortas and quesadias and everything like that because

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01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: there are twenty million people that need to get fed

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01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: and there is so much. It was amazing. It was

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Speaker 1: It's my new homeland.

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01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

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01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved I can't wait to get back. I

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01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: went on a taco tour. I ate, you know, super richly,

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01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: I ate super poorly. It was everything I wanted. The

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01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: weather was amazing, very walkable, inexpensive. Again great, great reviews.

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Speaker 2: Me this important question, very important question.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready.

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01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 2: I wanted to wipe that smile off.

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01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: Your fathos and takes. I'm very serious.

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01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: All right, this might be our final, okay talking point here. Yeah,

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01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 2: show for a long time on the program.

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Speaker 1: M HM.

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01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 2: The first eight years of the program, your plan, if

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01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: you were ever out on the LAMB trying to escape

1365
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: the FEDS was to grow a mustache, change your appearance,

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01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: go by an alias, and work at like a beach

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01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: side taco stand in San Diego. Yes, would you now

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01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 2: consider Mexico City if you could get out.

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01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: Of the country, Well, Mexico City, I believe will that's

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01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: an extradition thing, right, Mexico or Mexico in.

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01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 2: General, if they can find it, if they can find me.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I would stand out more as a

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01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: gringo in Mexico City than I would in San Diego.

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01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: And if I'm going to be on the lamb, I'm

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01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: probably gonna want to fit in a little bit better. Okay,

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01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: that said, not fugitive wise, I might be able to

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01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: live in Mexico City. Yeah, I feel like I could

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01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: get by in Mexico City. I looked at a little

1379
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: bit of real estate down there. I'm not gonna lie,

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01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: and it is affordable. It is affordable. But yeah, Mexico's

1381
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: not seafood wise, like I was planning in San Diego.

1382
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: That's not where you go for seafood in Mexico City necessarily.

1383
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: But if you are looking to travel in the in

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01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: the Western Hemisphere, if you look and travel in North America,

1385
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: someplace that's perhaps not super expensive, and you want to

1386
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: eat super well and the weather is like extraordinarily mild,

1387
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: because it's like seven thousand feet altitude. Whatever. Mexico City

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01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: is great.

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01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: Okay, it is great with a capital sha glowing review.

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01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: We stayed in Polanco, which is a really nice neighborhood,

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01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: but we walked everywhere. Meet Placido to not made a

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01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: Placido Domingo. No, it was extraordinary. Really if you're into

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01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: if you're into Mexican food, no brainer, gotta go.

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: I have one final note. Please, I don't do this

1397
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 2: often on the show. Serious note.

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Speaker 1: Oh by the way, Brady Hoak is also a volunteer.

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Speaker 1: Oh good, Yeah, what is your final notes? Final note?

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Speaker 1: Is I am raising money? Oh?

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01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am raising money. Say close attention, very quick story.

1402
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 2: But my baby niece, Juliana, beautiful baby niece, was born

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01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 2: with a congenital heart condition and the fine folks at

1404
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: Children's Hospital of Philadelphia Chop as we call it, they

1405
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 2: treated her so well. They performed a life saving surgery

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01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 2: on her. She is doing well, but it is something

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01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 2: that a number of other babies have to deal with

1408
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 2: and parents have to deal with. So I am doing

1409
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 2: what's called the Philly spin in. I'm going to be

1410
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 2: up on a bike for some indeterminate period of time

1411
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: doing a spinning session to help raise money for Have

1412
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: you done it before? I have not done this before.

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01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 2: Do you know what it involves? No? I am a

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01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: little concerned that they may need to do open heart

1415
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 2: surgery on movie after this. I've done it for charity. Yeah,

1416
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 2: the spin is what is the name of the place?

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01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: Do you know?

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01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 2: I have no idea?

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01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: So I did this at a place called have you

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01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: heard of Soul Cycle?

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01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 2: No?

1422
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: You've never heard of Soul Cycle?

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01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 2: No? Oh my god, Kate is shaking her head right now.

1424
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 2: It's popular everywhere. It's rough.

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01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rough, and it's I'm not going to say

1426
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: anything bad about their intentions because they want to get

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01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: people in shape and they want to raise money for

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01:08:56,479 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: this wonderful charity. Obviously, it is dark and it is loud,

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01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: and they yell at you, and it is like everybody there.

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01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot of women, but there's there's some

1431
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: men too. It is. It is cult like. Okay, but

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01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: you know what, you'll get a good sweat in for

1433
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 1: a good cause.

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01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 2: You get a good sweat in. It's for a very

1435
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 2: good cause. Yeah, and it's the least I can do

1436
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 2: to help out the find folks with a very noble

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01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 2: cause here to support cardiac research and care at Children's

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01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: Hospital Philadelphia. So if you go to I set this

1439
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: up solid verbal dot com slash donate, anything you're willing

1440
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 2: to donate to the cause would be greatly appreciated. As

1441
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 2: a group, we've already reached our goal, but we want

1442
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 2: to try and drive that a lot higher because it's

1443
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 2: it's such a good cause and it's near and dear

1444
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: to our hearts. So soliverbal dot com slash donate. I

1445
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: don't ask for much, but if you're willing to pitch

1446
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 2: in a few bucks here or there, it would be

1447
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: greatly appreciated and certainly help out some others who are

1448
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 2: in in this situation. Yeah, all right, that's all I

1449
01:09:58,640 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 2: got time, That's all I got TI.

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01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: I hope to be a little bit more healthy.

1451
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 2: Do we got to get you healthy? I know you've

1452
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: been sick for like four months.

1453
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: I don't like this at all.

1454
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 2: All right, well, we got to get some food in you.

1455
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 2: We gotta get some fluids in you. Get that voice

1456
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 2: back at your pep back. Guess we will be back

1457
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 2: in a week talking more college football. Yes, we will

1458
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 2: do stay tuned to the Twitter feed at soliverbal. We

1459
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: are on Facebook, Facebook dot com slash Soliverbal, and you

1460
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: can subscribe at iTunes dot com slash soliverbal Yeah guess easy,

1461
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 2: and the website soliverble dot com. Done for that guy

1462
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 2: literally over there, Dan Rubinstein for myself, ty Hilda Brand,

1463
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 2: thanks again for tuning in, tweet us, write us, let

1464
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 2: us know you're out there.

1465
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: Say hi.

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Speaker 2: Until next week, Stay solid, peace,