1 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cardinal territory. I'm her host, Katie Wu, 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: and happy second half of the season. Now, technically we 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: have well surpassed the actual halfway mark of the season. 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: The Cardinals have exactly sixty five games remaining on the 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: regular season dockets, starting tonight against the Arizona Diamondbacks at 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Chase Field. I am not in Arizona. I will meet 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: the team in Denver on Monday. But still plenty to 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: discuss here, starting with I'm not trying to be dramatic 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: when I say the next ten games could dictate the 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: rest of the season. And that sounds kind of silly, right, Like, 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: it's one hundred and sixty two game season. How can 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: one sixteenth of it matter this much? Well? It does. 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: Here's how the card schedule looks heading into this year's deadline, 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: which is scheduled for July thirty first, five pm Central Time. 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 1: Three games in Arizona, three games in Colorado, no off day, 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: straight to a four game set at home versus the Padres, 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: and then three games against the Miami Marlins. They have 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: an off day schedule for the thirty first in Sand 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: so at least there will be no game on deadline 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: day that is always like stupid stressful. But it's no 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,919 Speaker 1: secret that the Cardinal's second half sprint starts right now. 22 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: President Baseball Operations John Mozelac has said this throughout the 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: season and most recently reiterated this in the first week 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: of July. He is prepared to go to the week 25 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: before the trade deadline, if not the final seventy two 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: hours before the trade deadline, before making a decision if 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: the Cardinals should buy or sell. And guess what, he's 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: not alone. Multiple teams, including the Diamondbacks, find themselves in 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: the same position as the Cardinals. We call them bubble 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: teams here in the industry because they are right on 31 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: the bubble between buying and selling. And we're going to 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: have to check in on these teams, just going off 33 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: the top of my head, the Rangers, the Royals, the Guardians, 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: the Twins, the Cardinals, just to see because how they 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: play it over the next week or so again will 36 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: influence their plans. So what the Cardinals are deciding right now, 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: which is that they will not sell and they want 38 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: to compete in the second half, that could be entirely 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: different comes seven days from now. If this upcoming road 40 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: trip does not go well. Same for the Diamondbacks. You 41 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: have a lot of pieces. You're thinking about Suarez, you're 42 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: thinking about Zach Gallon, and then the whole ale Central 43 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: Outside of the Tigers and the White Sox, those three teams, 44 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: the Royals, the Twins, and the Guardians are kind of 45 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: all bubbled together. See that's what we call them bubble teams. 46 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: So we don't know a lot about the market. We 47 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: do know it's starting to heat up. The Royals traded 48 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: for Adam Fraser over the All Star break, and I 49 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: saw John Hayman of the New York Post reporting that 50 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: Spencer Turnbull is on his way to the Chicago Cubs. 51 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: So the market is starting to heat up. But we 52 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: likely won't have a full idea of what that market 53 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: looks like in total until maybe a couple days before 54 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: the deadline, and then things will get very, very weird. 55 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: So that's fun if you're a fan, not so fun 56 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: if you're a reporter. But hey, that's what we sign 57 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: up to do. My prediction for this Cardinals team, I 58 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: don't know if you're going to really love this news, 59 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: but I can see them doing exactly what they did 60 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four buying and selling at the same time. 61 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: We know that they have intents of moving Eric Fetti. 62 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't see them doing anything major here, one because 63 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: that's not normally what they do. And two, it would 64 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: really surprise me if the Cardinals make a major shakeup 65 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: with their roster, knowing that a new front office is 66 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: coming in in November. Again, that could change, but right 67 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: now I think it's business as usual for John Mozelac 68 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals. We'll see, though, I'm sure that this 69 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: will be an entirely different situation over the next week 70 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: or so. We'll get into all of the things to 71 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: kick off the second half. First though, Oh, here we go. 72 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: First though, we need to tell you about a giveway 73 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: we're doing here at foul Territory. We have a great 74 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: giveaway going on right now in our chat BCC group chat. 75 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: Thank you oball. 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Jordan Walker is up, Thomas a JC is down. 84 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: The Cardinals options to JC on Thursday back to Memphis, 85 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: and they will officially recall Jordan Walker or excuse me, 86 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: activate him off the injured list ahead of Friday's game. 87 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: So MLB players have twenty days on a rehab assignment 88 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: before the team must decide whether to add them back 89 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: to the active roster or option them. Jordan Walker was 90 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: approaching that twenty day mark at some point during the series. 91 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: To be honest, it might even have been today, So 92 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: the Cardinals seems to make a decision on him. Thomas 93 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: A JC. I know you guys love him, and I 94 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: think he has a lot of raw tools. Just didn't 95 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: seem to be particularly ready for this stint. Let's look 96 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: at his stat line. It was not great one second. 97 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: Who was hitting below two hundred and just kind of 98 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: fell overmatched at the point official stat line one thirty 99 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: three fifty six over fourteen games. That will not do it. 100 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: So I'm sure we'll see s JC again at some point, 101 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: but still some things to work on in memph And 102 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: the same can be said for Jordan Walker. Let's talk 103 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: a little bit about Walker, who, as you all know, 104 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: I was very high on the beginning of the season, 105 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: and I'm not suggesting that I'm not anymore, but I 106 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: think we can all say that first half of the 107 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: season was a disappointment. Various multiple stints on the injured 108 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: list limited Walker in had just fifty five games. We'll 109 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: go to Baseball Reference and read his stat line. He 110 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: took one hundred and seventy six of bats, he hit 111 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: two ten, a on base percentage of two sixty seven, 112 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: a slugging percentage of two ninety five for an ops 113 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: of five sixty two home or just three times. That 114 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: is just that's not going to cut it. And I 115 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: think both the Cardinals and Jordan Walker would say that 116 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: they're disappointed about how that first half went. Because Walker 117 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: was identified as top priority number one to get right 118 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: for this season. This was a huge year for him 119 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: as the Cardinals try to decide what his future in 120 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: Saint Louis. Looks like they were hoping for a lot 121 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: better production than this. We'll see how manager Allie Marmel 122 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: dictates playing time going forward. Oh excuse me, hold on, 123 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. From the Cardinals say Louis Cardinals transactions 124 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: for July eighteenth, Jordan Walker activated from the ten day 125 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: injured list and filler Thomas A Jacy option to Memphis. 126 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: So that move is official. Wow, talk about timing. I'm 127 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: on it. Let's think about how Ollie Marmal will to 128 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: dictate playing time with Jordan Walker, specifically with Lars Newpar 129 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: also landing on the injured list. For those of you 130 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: who missed it, he was placed on the ten day IL. 131 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: New Bar was with I don't even know how to 132 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: say it, the same rib issue that had plagued him 133 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: for multiple weeks in July. So he's going to hit 134 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: the tenda IL. He's going to miss at least two weeks, 135 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: most likely. We'll see how the All Star break and 136 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: just an overall break from baseball help Newpar. What we 137 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: do know is that this will open the door for 138 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: consistent playing time to continue for Alec Burlison, who has 139 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: earned it. He has been one of the Cardinals' most 140 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: productive hitters, so he'll most likely get time in the 141 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: corner outfield, most likely right field in new Bar's absence. 142 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: What this means for Jordan Walker. Well, I asked Ollie 143 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 1: Marmal that up at the Athletic we have a second 144 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: half storylines to watch, starting with the trade ofline. We 145 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: have that for almost every team, So regardless of who 146 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: you're looking for, whether it's the Cardinals, the Cubs, the Brids, etc. 147 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: We have that for you in this story. However, right 148 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: before the All Star break, I did ask Olli Marmal 149 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: how he would manage playing time in the second half 150 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: and if the team continues to contend, if that would 151 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: impact who he plays or not. And I know many 152 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: of you are we don't particularly love listening to the 153 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: manager at times, but I will say he has gotten 154 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: very good at saying things and meaning something between the lines. 155 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: So I'll read this quote and then I'll explain it 156 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: to you. Ollie Marmal said, in my opinion, we've given 157 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: opportunity to everybody at this point, so we'll mix and 158 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: match and continue to play guys that are deserving that. 159 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: He would, later in that same question go on to say, 160 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: we've given ourselves a shot while developing. I'll continue to 161 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: find ways and I think we've threaded that as much 162 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: as we can. I don't think we'll veer from it, 163 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: but all being heavier as we get further into the 164 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: second half on playing guys that are deserving. It's not 165 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: just runway for the sake of runway, So in my mind, 166 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: guys that are deserving a play time based on performance. 167 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: Alif Erlison evon Herrera hands down, and the Cardinals already 168 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: stated that Herrera will be there starting DH going forward 169 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: for the rest of the season, they are going to 170 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 1: limit his time behind the plate in efforts to preserve 171 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: his lower body health. He's already had two lower leg 172 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: injuries this year, and in case we didn't notice over 173 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: the three and a half weeks he was on the 174 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: injured list this last time, the offense really takes a 175 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: hit without Yvon Herrera. So what this means for Herrera's 176 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: catching future, that's a decision for the offseason, But right now, 177 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: going forward, you can expect a pencil in Herrera as 178 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: the everyday DH and Burlason again, like we just talked about, 179 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: kind of while unfortunate for newpar does make a lot 180 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: of sense for him to just take over the corner 181 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: outfield spot because you can't really take his vat out 182 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: of the lineup either. Now, if you're looking at guys 183 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: that have really performed over the last month or so, 184 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: my eyes are on Nolan Gorman. Looking at his stats, 185 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: let me find those for you. He played since June first. 186 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: He's played in thirty four games, hit two forty five, 187 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: which is okay, but I think totally fine for a 188 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: power hitter. Here are the numbers. I like a five 189 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: hundred slugging percentage and eight home runs. Again that since 190 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: June first, does he pack value as a left handed 191 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: bat off the bench? Yes? Are the Cardinals right and 192 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: not wanting to limit his role to that? Also? Yes, 193 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: Nolan Gorman, while there is a little bit of some 194 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: I don't know whatever, the opposite of flexibility is defensively, 195 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: you know, he's an average second baseman. He's probably a 196 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: better third baseman, but that's going to be taken by 197 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: Nolan Arnado. Uh. That's it makes him hard to play 198 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: every day, especially with Herrera taking over as the everyday DH. 199 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: But the Cardinals are right to try to continue to 200 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: find playing time for Gorman because he is and he's 201 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: always been one of those hitters where the more you 202 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: play him, the better he is and when you have 203 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: that left handed thump that Gorman has been able to 204 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: show consistently, you play that. So those are the three 205 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: names that I think have really warranted playing time here 206 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: outside of the regular starters in Arnatto, Contrarist Donovan. And 207 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: when you know the drill with those four players, we'll 208 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: see what this means for Jordan Walker. He's gonna have 209 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: some chances to play. But it would not surprise me 210 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: if Walker relegated to a bench role or only starting 211 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: verse lefties. That is my inclination of what will happen 212 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: as we kick off the second half, but we will 213 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: wait and see. Again, I'm not in Arizona, but we'll 214 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: be following along from home or from my parents' house, 215 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: as we all can tell. So again, when we're thinking 216 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: about the Cardinals in the next ten games, it would 217 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: not surprise me if Alli Marmal plays his best nine 218 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: because they are trying to sneak into the playoffs and 219 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: try to play competitive baseball. And we can have a 220 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: separate conversation if that's the right thing to do or not, 221 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: or if they should remain focused on the future. If 222 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: you in case you missed it, I don't know why 223 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: this pencil in my hand whatever. In case you missed it, 224 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: Joe Buck did a really strong interview with the Morning 225 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: Show on one on one ESPN, Tim mccrin and all 226 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: those guys, and he I thought shared some really strong 227 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: insight that many of you fans share as well, where 228 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: this twenty twenty five Cardinals team has exceeded expectations and 229 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: a ton of credit goes to the players, and I 230 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: know not a lot of you want to hear it, 231 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: a ton of credit goes to the coaching staff as well, 232 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: for getting the most out of their players and really 233 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: taking this development year by storm. That doesn't mean they're 234 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: a World Series team as currently constructed, the same as 235 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals are not a world serious team. You can make 236 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: the argument that is currently constructed, they're not even a 237 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: playoff team. Can they fight and scrap to get into 238 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: the wild card? Sure? Should they do that at the 239 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: expense of blowing up their future plans. I am under 240 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: the belief that they should not, and I think many 241 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: of you share that same sentiment. I'm never going to 242 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: knock a team for trying to get in it, you know, 243 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: I think there are so many teams like the Rockies, 244 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: the A's the Marlins that are just embarrassing for the sport, 245 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: right and the Cardinals have been embarrassed in their own 246 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: right because they have such high standards and have fallen 247 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: well short of them over the last three seasons. But again, 248 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: I believe a team should go for it if they 249 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: have the potential to. I just don't see the Cardinals 250 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: going for it this deadline in a way that actually 251 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: makes them true postseason contenders. I see them doing exactly 252 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: what they did in twenty four and trying and improve 253 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: on the margins, hope to get lucky and sneak in. 254 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: And that's where I think fans are frustrated because it's 255 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: the same m O every single time, and this is 256 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: not a team that should be settling for wildcard appearances. 257 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: They're not even winning the wildcard games. In five years 258 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: covering the scene with Cardinals, I've covered three post season 259 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: games and I have covered zero wins. So that kind 260 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: of goes to show where the Cardinals postseason philosophy is 261 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: right now. Lots to think about when we look at 262 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: John Mozaylac in the next ten days and how Ollie 263 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: Marmal plays his hands with his players. You hope to 264 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: take advantage of the Diamondbacks, because the Cardinals can more 265 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: or less decide the Diamondback seas in the series. You 266 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: hope to take advantage against the Rockies, but the way 267 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: the pitching staff has looked in July, coursefield is not 268 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: really where you want to be for a lot of 269 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: these pitch to contact guys. The Cardinals have not set 270 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: their rotation outside of Arizona. They'll go Polane today, sunny, 271 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: gray Saturday, Miles Michael a Sunday. All signs point to 272 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: Eric Fetty taking a start against the Rockies, though, so 273 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. And then four games against 274 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: the Padres, and they're a threat. As we know. Former 275 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals manager Mike shult be back in Saint Louis, and 276 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: this is a Padres team that I expects to be 277 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: all in it. Their President Baseball Operations AJ as one 278 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: of the more unhinged executives when it comes to the 279 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: trade deadlines. So three tough draws and then could the 280 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: Cardinals go into the Miami Series undecided of their plans. 281 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: They could, but that's kinding it real close to the deadline. 282 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: I will say though, in the years that I've covered 283 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. There has been no better deadline dealer than 284 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: John Moseylock. I mean, talk about a buzzer beater. He's 285 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: had one of those for five years. So I'm prepared 286 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: for this to go down to the wire. Cardinals fans, 287 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: you should as well. All right, let's hear from our 288 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: partners at Draft Kings real quickly. Our player spotlight powered 289 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: by DraftKings is indeed Jordan Walker. So we went over 290 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: his stats in the first half. We talked about this 291 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: a little bit on the show. The Cardinals kept Jordan 292 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: Walker in double A because they wanted to work on 293 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: his approach during his rehab assignment. It's the same things 294 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: that they've been dealing with for the last couple of years. 295 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: Jordan Walker is still struggling to lay off the slider 296 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: low and away and have just better pitch selection. Hasn't 297 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: done a very nice job of getting the ball in 298 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: the air, the same things that this organization has been 299 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: working with him for years. And the thought was down 300 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: in Springfield, with lesser competition but better technology and better 301 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: resources than Memphis, if you will, he would have a 302 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: better chance at making those changes. Again, we don't know 303 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: where he's going to play My opinion is that he 304 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: will have his playing times somewhat regulated. Maybe that changes 305 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: in the second half depending on what the Cardinals do 306 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: at the trade deadline. But it is a make it 307 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: or break it season from Jordan Walker, and I've seen 308 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: some trade speculation involved with Walker, and I would like 309 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: to caution you all. Here's my reporter soapbox urge. If 310 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: you're not seeing news or rumors from the established National 311 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: League reporters or your local beat, really try to temper 312 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: your expectations this year. Specifically because there are very limited 313 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: stars available on the market, and because the market is 314 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: still relatively undefined, you're seeing a lot of rumor flying 315 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: everywhere just for the sake of starting a conversation. Just 316 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: because you see a rumor floated on Twitter, it does 317 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: not mean that it is an actual legit circumstance. And look, guys, 318 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: sometimes US reporters will get rumors and end up being 319 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: exactly that. But it's our job to decide what is 320 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: true and what is not and to figure that out 321 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: before we report it. So, I know, just speaking for 322 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: the Cardinals beat, speaking for the writers the Athletic, basically 323 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: any beat writer that you know, we take real strong 324 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: pride in making sure what we get out there is accurate. 325 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: This year, in particular, you will see a lot of rumors, 326 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that they're true, Which brings my point 327 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: about Jordan Walker. You will hear his name being floated 328 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: around in possible trade propositions. Well, I don't think that's 329 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: out of the question come the off season. I would 330 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: be very surprised if a trade of Jordan Walker happens 331 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: this July, mainly because of what we already talked about. 332 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: Unless John Mozelac and Heiin Bloom work together on this trade, 333 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't make a lot of sense for an outgoing 334 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: president based operations to trade a player with ample years 335 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: of control, a former first round pick, ahead of a 336 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: new front office taking over. You never know what Hein 337 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: Bloom and his front office, which we don't even know 338 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: what that looks like yet, might think of Jordan Walker. 339 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: So is it tantalizing to think that moving Jordan Walker 340 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: couldn't get you a big player? Yes, because I think 341 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: that it could. Is that where the Cardinals are right 342 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: now and their restructure, probably not. When we talk to 343 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: John Mozaelak at Wrigley Field over fourth of July weekend, 344 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: he did say the players that we would be looking 345 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: to trade if we didn't end up selling are those 346 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: on expiring contracts, So that would be guys like Eric Fetty, 347 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: who we know that they're trying to trade regardless, Steven Mattsfield, Mayton, 348 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: Ryan Helsley, and then Miles Michlist maybe, but he has 349 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: a full note trade cause so I highly doubt that. 350 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: So that's your player spotlight again presented by Draft Kings. 351 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: Let's talk about pick six. So Bernie obviously is not 352 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: on the show, but I'm going to read his pics 353 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: for you. He has two Pittsburgh's O'Neil Cruz. He's taking 354 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: the higher than one point five combined hits, runs and 355 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: RBIs against the visit in White Sox. Chicago starting picher 356 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: Jonathan Cannon has a four to nine to seven road 357 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: ERA this season. Second pick Washington's James Woods, fresh off 358 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: the home run derby, He's taking the higher than point 359 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: five home runs against the visiting San Diego Padres. Dylan Cees, 360 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: the opposing starter, has a six point twenty seven road 361 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: ERA this year. 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New York Yankee general manager Brian Cashman 385 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: has pledged an all in approach. They really need a 386 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: third basement. The odds of that third basement being no 387 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: one are not very slim. Let me just throw that 388 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: out there. Big game changers for teams looking to buy 389 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: could be again the Diamondbacks, could be the Cardinals. It 390 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: seems like the Royals are kind of in on a 391 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: gentle buy with their trade for Adam Fraser. The Guardians 392 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: have Emmanuel Cosse, so probably one of the more coveted believers. 393 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: Marian Helsley obviously not as dominant as last year. I 394 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: still don't believe the Cardinals are inclined to move him. 395 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: In fact, that was my bold prediction for The Athletic, 396 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: which a lot of you. The Athletic just did thirty 397 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: bold predictions for thirty teams at the trade deadline, and 398 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: many of you rightfully commented that it's not really bold 399 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: to predict the Cardinals not doing anything like holding on 400 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: to a player. I agree but from an industry standpoint, 401 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: I think most executives are still amazed the Cardinals held 402 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: onto Ryan Helsley over the offseason in the first place. Again, 403 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: if this team flames out coming out of the deadline, 404 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: this all changes all of a sudden. You're listening on 405 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: offers for Helsley, for Mayton, for Mats and you focus 406 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: on your rebuild. Excuse me, Okay, just kidding. I thought 407 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: was another roster move for the Cardinals. It was not. 408 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: It was just clubhouse times. When you're looking at what 409 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: the Cardinals could specifically do, they you'll hear this a lot. 410 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: You will hear teams are interested in X player. Those 411 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: players are going to be Brendan Donovan, Evon Herrera, Lars Newbar. 412 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: Those players are not going to be traded by the 413 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals this year. Teams can have plenty of interest. Spoiler alert. 414 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: Teams have had interest in Brendan Donovan since his rookie year. 415 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: Teams have had interest and Lars new Bar since twenty 416 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: twenty two. Yvon Herrera was the most coveted player outside 417 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: of Tommy Edmond at last year's trade deadline. Teams can 418 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: have interest all they want doesn't matter because the Cardinals 419 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: are not inclined to trade them again. In ten days, 420 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: this could all change. Stick back with us. We'll have 421 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: plenty of episodes on Cardinal Territory to break it all 422 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: down for you. Bernie is back with us Sunday for 423 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: a Cardinals Diamondbacks recap. Hopefully we're talking about good things 424 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: rather than bad things, but that remains to be seen. Hey, 425 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: happy second half. Everybody time flives when you're having fun, 426 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: and I appreciate you sharing this journey with me. All right, 427 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm Katie with this is Cardinal Territory. We are back 428 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: with you Sunday. Have a great weekend.