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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge, presented by DraftKings is the special

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Speaker 1: Combine edition of The Lounge. Garrett is in Indianapolis. I

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Speaker 1: am holding down the fort here in Owens Mills, but

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Speaker 1: we have a lot to talk about with Eric to

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Speaker 1: Costa's press conference from the Combine end. Just kind of

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Speaker 1: talking combine here. Athletes haven't taken the field yet, but

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that too for sure. Um, you

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Speaker 1: know it's been We had a chance to hear from

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Speaker 1: Eric to Costa. He did a puttium session for about

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes and also talked with local reporters a little

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Speaker 1: bit after that. Um, and then I've had a chance

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Speaker 1: draft analysts who are out here in Indianapolis. Um So,

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Speaker 1: as part of this conversation will also include some perspective

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Speaker 1: to do with Charles Davis, Jeremiah. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: long tease. It's long tease. But um so, I had

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Speaker 1: get their perspective about like how this draft fits, what

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Speaker 1: the Ravens need, and their thoughts on on where the

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Speaker 1: Ravens could go. So we'll roll that in. I'll do

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Speaker 1: my best to keep from falling asleep. The combined days

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Speaker 1: days here, I got the You know what makes it long?

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Speaker 1: Is that huge fifteen ounced steak that you had last night,

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Speaker 1: no a dry dinner for you last night at St Elmos. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the tale. That's why you're hurting today. No, here's

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Speaker 1: the thing that you don't even get to go to dinner.

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Speaker 1: Had the ten pm dinner, working till ten pm. So

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Speaker 1: the ten pm dinner last night? So up still full

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Speaker 1: from this? Yes, yeah, oh yeah, late nights, late nights,

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Speaker 1: long days. Let me tell you did you do this?

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Speaker 1: Was it the ten pm c elbos? Yeah, we ate

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Speaker 1: How big a steak? Usually? I'm a sleep time usually.

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Speaker 1: I went to sat Mel almost I got the giant

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Speaker 1: the podcast when I get back for the full expense

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Speaker 1: report recap. So anyway, all right, let's talk give our

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Speaker 1: impressions of just what we heard from Eric to Costa.

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Speaker 1: I mean, to me, the things that stood out. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with the obvious one of Mark Jackson's contract. No

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Speaker 1: the one thing that hasn't changed at all is that

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Speaker 1: the ravens wa Lamar Jackson is her quarterback long term,

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Speaker 1: contract extension with him. That is still the priority. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think that Eric Decasa you still see

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Speaker 1: want to pay you this money. Come on, man, I

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Speaker 1: got a huge bag here, come take it. And the

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Speaker 1: after im when I'm wearing my ring. Yeah, exactly, I'm

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Speaker 1: it sounds, getting healthy this offseason is the biggest priority

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Speaker 1: and then we you build up the well just it's

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Speaker 1: gonna say, the biggest development they're regarding J. K. Dobbins

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Speaker 1: look forward to I mean, I'm not surprised that you're

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Speaker 1: I would ask for cookies from the general manager's wife.

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Speaker 1: best cookies I've ever tasted. It's definitely gonna be better

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Speaker 1: see all the video of him playing tackle. He played

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Speaker 1: guard too. Now he did a little bit of that

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Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, So if you need to slide

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Speaker 1: in there, he could do that as well. Um, he

429
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Speaker 1: just got a nasty temperament. You know, I think with

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Speaker 1: this Ravens off fense, you know, being able to move

431
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Speaker 1: people is key. And this guy uproots people and moves

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Speaker 1: people at the line of scrimmage. So when you have

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Speaker 1: all that uncertainty in the backfield of who's got the

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Speaker 1: ball and where is it going and certainty creates some

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Speaker 1: of that you know that that pause moment for a

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman, this guy is gonna put you in the ground.

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Speaker 1: So UM to me, there's certain guys always a handful

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Speaker 1: of him every year. Um, just from my time at Baltimore, Like, okay,

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Speaker 1: they'll like this kid absolutely. So I think on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side, Arisa Costas said, they want to get a

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Speaker 1: little bit younger up front. If they go that route

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Speaker 1: early in the draft. What there are some options that

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Speaker 1: you think on the defensive front it could be a

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Speaker 1: good fit. While you could go to Georgia and find

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Speaker 1: a couple of them, right I mean, Jordan Davis is

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Speaker 1: the big man that I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: know about, and he's just he's massive, three fifty pounds

448
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Speaker 1: and he can really move laterally. So that's an interesting one.

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Speaker 1: Davante White, his teammate, is is a more explosive, dynamic player.

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Speaker 1: At three hundred ten pounds, he's gonna fly out here.

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Speaker 1: Um so he'll create a little buzz for himself at

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Speaker 1: the combine. But that gives you a little bit more

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Speaker 1: interior rush. I think get him on an edge and

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Speaker 1: let him go. Those are those are two pretty good

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Speaker 1: options right there. You know, when we did this last year,

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Speaker 1: you were talking about o dafe O Way and saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: he could be the guy, and you told me that then,

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Speaker 1: and you were you were right on the money. Um,

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Speaker 1: if the Ravens look at the pass rusher to put

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Speaker 1: alongside oh Dauphe, is there somebody who you think could

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Speaker 1: be a good fit. I think this draft is littered

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Speaker 1: with with good fits, with intriguing players. Um, you know

463
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Speaker 1: long range e guys. I mean Jermaine Johnson. To me,

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Speaker 1: if he somehow got there would be a home run

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Speaker 1: pick from Florida State. He's just again, he's just super,

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Speaker 1: super explosive. You'd have a guy on one side who

467
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Speaker 1: ran in the high four three's and oh way, and

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Speaker 1: the other side you have somebody I think it's gonna

469
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Speaker 1: probably run in the high four fives here, which is crazy. Uh,

470
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Speaker 1: two sixty plus pounds. So that you talked about getting

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Speaker 1: younger and more athletic and more dynamic on the opposite

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Speaker 1: side that would do it. So are you gonna nail

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Speaker 1: it again this year? I mean, I know Penning is

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Speaker 1: your guy right now? Is that? Are you gonna keep

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Speaker 1: the track record rolling? Yeah? To be honestly, I probably

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Speaker 1: lied with my confidence level last year and got a

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Speaker 1: little lucky. Uh. I don't have as much confidence this year.

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Speaker 1: This is such a weird draft, right, there's so much uncertainty,

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Speaker 1: there's no clarity. So um yeah, I mean I can

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Speaker 1: throw a dart against the wall, but I don't like

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Speaker 1: my odds. All right, Well, I have more confidence in

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Speaker 1: you than it sounds like you doing yourself. So thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. Enjoy your week here. All right, Before

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Speaker 1: we give our take on that interview with Daniel Jeremiah,

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Speaker 1: we want fans to know that the sports landscape is

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Speaker 1: get that done, and a play around the salary cap

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Speaker 1: there a little bit. So, um, what did you think

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Speaker 1: I mean Daniel, Daniel right now has Ravens going Trevor Petting.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of us about Penning to the Ravens keeper.

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Speaker 1: Has Penning in a trade back scenario? Yeah, like and again,

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Speaker 1: as we mentioned earlier, no real consensus on the offensive tackles.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him go as high as six. I've seen

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Speaker 1: him go as late as the late twenties, you know,

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Speaker 1: so it's like, where's this guy gonna go? So is

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Speaker 1: a fourteen? Um? You know that Penning Penning could make

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense. And I think that that. I

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Speaker 1: just think that, like, guys, look at what the Ravens need.

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Speaker 1: You see the six ft seven pound offensive tackle who

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Speaker 1: ragged alls guys with the Senior Bowl uh, who has

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Speaker 1: like them like to the echo of the whistle? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: has this like Ryan Jensen esque mentality as an offensive alignment.

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Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, raven that's a Raving sign it up.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's part of the thought process there.

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Speaker 1: And I can see that is that who you're going with. Well, still,

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Speaker 1: I'm not making Pencil Jeremiah, but I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 1: making the pick yet. I'm not making the pick yet.

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Speaker 1: But he seems to think that could be the route

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Speaker 1: that you know that blaze out. It wouldn't surprise me.

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Speaker 1: I certainly could see that. You know, one thing I

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Speaker 1: thought that was interesting. You know, he talked about some

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Speaker 1: of the best defensive fits, but he he saw for

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, and uh talked about Jordan Davis, the monster,

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Speaker 1: uh defensive lineman for Georgia, who's six six three forty

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Speaker 1: I mean, goodness, gracious alive, just a large human being.

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Speaker 1: Uh Wyatt. You know his teammate right next to him,

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Speaker 1: Um is a smaller kind of better pass rush kind

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Speaker 1: of guy. But DeVante Wyatt, so he's he's gonna laid

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Speaker 1: up the combine. Apparently one guy you didn't mention was

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Speaker 1: my guy, Trey Von Walker. Yeah, I was a little surprised.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, get him with the follow up.

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Speaker 1: Garrett hit him with the follow up question. Was tight

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Speaker 1: on time? I will say that he was let him

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Speaker 1: off the hook. I could he was. He was. We

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Speaker 1: had to sneak in about we had about a four

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Speaker 1: minute window, and I told him I'd be honest on

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Speaker 1: the time. I didn't do I didn't want to do

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Speaker 1: the make you know, hey, I need you for five minutes,

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Speaker 1: which really means ten minutes. So yeah, five minutes. Everybody

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Speaker 1: is under the same understanding that the five minute request

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Speaker 1: is a fifteen minute I'm anna. I'm a man of

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Speaker 1: integrity and honesty. So I told him we keep mives.

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Speaker 1: So we had about three and a half minutes, and

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Speaker 1: I stayed to that. Uh so, no follow us. But

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Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker would be an interesting one. I mean he

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Speaker 1: basically said, you know, going down to Georgia, you can

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Speaker 1: pick your defensive guy on the defensive front um and

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Speaker 1: that could be a good fit. So that that would

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Speaker 1: be The Ravens have a little bit of history with

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Speaker 1: liking defensive players that are coming off national championships. That's great.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Marlon Humphrey was a national champion. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure if it was the year right before the Ravens

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Speaker 1: picked him or not. National champion. Anthony Avert was a

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Speaker 1: national champion. Uh Patrick Queen was a national champion. So C. J.

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Speaker 1: Mosley was the national So yeah, I mean, like the

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Speaker 1: Ravens kind of like those defenses that are just nasty

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Speaker 1: and then they pick one of those studs off of

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Speaker 1: those defenses. Wouldn't surprised me. The other interesting name that

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Speaker 1: he brought up is Florida States Jermaine Johnson, who really

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Speaker 1: kind of blew up at the Senior Bowl. Uh and

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Speaker 1: now is being talked about as you know, a top ten,

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Speaker 1: you know, top fifteen, top ten player. And I just

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Speaker 1: for some reason, I just don't see edge rusher as

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Speaker 1: the Ravens first round pick. I'm not I wouldn't rule

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Speaker 1: it out, but it's lower than defensive lineman for me.

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Speaker 1: It might even be lower than inside linebacker. That's probably,

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Speaker 1: and I'll put it ahead of in Slawiga, but it's

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Speaker 1: behind offensive tackles, behind cornerback and probably defensive lineman for me.

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Speaker 1: Because the Ravens just picked it off a O way

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Speaker 1: in the first round last year. I mean, how much

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Speaker 1: invested do you want to invest in this this position?

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Speaker 1: And you have Tias Bowser. I know he's coming off

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Speaker 1: the Achilles, but you know, Tias Bowser, the Ravens already

575
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Speaker 1: invested a lot into it with a second contract, so

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Speaker 1: you certainly want to get him the reps um. I

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Speaker 1: really like what I saw from Dale and Hayes. I

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Speaker 1: know he's a fifth round pickings and who barely played

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Speaker 1: as a rookie, so like you're not gonna put a

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Speaker 1: ton of eggs in that basket. But I think the

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Speaker 1: kids got a future personally. Um So I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I just I just I don't see it. But maybe

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Speaker 1: in today's NFL, you know, it's past heavy. You look

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Speaker 1: at Joe Burrow and you gotta get pressure on him,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe you say double dip there and try

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Speaker 1: to get a fearsome edge rusher tandem. The same time,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals have some good wide receivers. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: have some more corners too. Yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 1: the pass rusher thing is is an interesting one because

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Speaker 1: as you're as you mentioned, like so they have tied Spowsler.

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Speaker 1: He's coming off the torn achilles so like and in

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Speaker 1: the last game of the season. So question sho mark there?

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Speaker 1: Justin Houston free agent? You know, was that you know,

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Speaker 1: one and done? I don't know, but like they had

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Speaker 1: they had the need to go out and get Houston

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Speaker 1: last year. Like it's not like they're so they're so

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Speaker 1: well stocked at pass rusher that you're like, obviously you

598
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Speaker 1: don't need to know, it's absolutely a need. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: could they go there? Like David and Jabo is the

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Speaker 1: first round. You know, that was when I actually talked

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Speaker 1: to Bucky Brooks about today. Um, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: think he said he might even be He was opposite

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Speaker 1: Aton Hutchinson, who's going to be a top three pick

604
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Speaker 1: in this draft, and suggested that maybe a Jabo could

605
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Speaker 1: be more productive in the pros than you know, career

606
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Speaker 1: because he's an ascending player. Raw talent sounds an awful

607
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Speaker 1: lot like oh way, you know, and those guys have

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Speaker 1: a connection. I think that would be kind of interesting

609
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Speaker 1: to put them together. Um, that's that's an exciting possibility

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Speaker 1: if they were to go there. But yes, I get it,

611
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Speaker 1: Like if you're sitting here and saying, bulk up the line,

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Speaker 1: bulk up the old line, add depth in the secondary,

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Speaker 1: at depth in the second in the area, then it's

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Speaker 1: pass rusher in the first round. That just seems to

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Speaker 1: kind of find the face of the other stuff that

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Speaker 1: you're talking about. Yeah, what what did our guy called

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Speaker 1: Jackson call it the Nigerian Nightmare? Yeah? I like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So it's very interesting. I mean I think the defense,

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Speaker 1: I think it could be a very defensive heavy draft

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Speaker 1: for the Ravens, Like very I expect that there will

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Speaker 1: be more defensive players certainly drafted than offensive especially considering

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Speaker 1: you know, I think it's really offensive line. And maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe you get a late late to mid running back,

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Speaker 1: maybe a late mid wide receiver, and then tight end.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe you drafted tight end. You certainly could.

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Speaker 1: But like any of those picks coming honestly, wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: running back or tight end, any of those coming before

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Speaker 1: the fourth round would surprise to me. Yeah. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: that's when you know, fourth round with Ravens having five

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Speaker 1: fourth round picture and so we just spreads. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: just spread out in the fourth round and say, all right,

632
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Speaker 1: a little bit of this, a little bit of that

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Speaker 1: would take every possession, you know, when it's all said

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Speaker 1: and done. Um, all right, So let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: um roll another interview. This was at Charles Davis Ravens Fans.

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Speaker 1: I am here joined by Charles Davis, one of the

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Speaker 1: best draft analysts out there. So yeah, we're setting the

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Speaker 1: bar high then thinking about trying to get over it. So, Charles,

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Speaker 1: when you look at the Ravens and their needs and

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Speaker 1: how this draft stacks up, what do you think is

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Speaker 1: the most likely route for them to go in the

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Speaker 1: first round? Oh? Boy, that is. That's such a great

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Speaker 1: question because the Ravens culture, we know the defense is

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Speaker 1: always a big part of it. They continue to build

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Speaker 1: Last year a Dafe oh Way. I want to make

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Speaker 1: sure I get the name correct because he can beat

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Speaker 1: me up. I don't want that to happen. But I

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Speaker 1: still think on the offensive side of the ball, that

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Speaker 1: offensive line still needs some work. And this is a

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Speaker 1: deep offensive line draft, so it wouldn't surprise me at

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Speaker 1: all if they thought about going in that direction. But

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Speaker 1: it's also a team that values great players and wherever

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Speaker 1: it falls at that moment that board says this great player,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a need or not a need, you know

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Speaker 1: they're going to go in that direction. Do you think

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Speaker 1: there's quality players you could be available in nuberfore team

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Speaker 1: on that offensive tackle position. I mean to potentially get

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Speaker 1: a Day one plug and play starter. Absolutely. And you

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Speaker 1: know it's funny because the Trevor Penning youngster at a

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Speaker 1: Northern Iowa, what's going to be the flavor for how

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Speaker 1: high he goes? I watched him at the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: and I thought to myself. Eric Fisher emerged out at

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl years ago from Central in Michigan, became

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Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. This is not gonna happen

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Speaker 1: with this young man. But I don't see any reason

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Speaker 1: why he can't be a rookie starter right out of

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Speaker 1: the gate. I think he's got it. He's got a

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Speaker 1: good footwork, he plays with power, He's got an edge

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Speaker 1: to him in a nastiness. It means something to him

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Speaker 1: to try and dominate people. I think that he's a

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Speaker 1: type of kid that could step in and play. I

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Speaker 1: don't care that he coming out of the Missouri Valley.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if he's coming out of the FCS.

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Speaker 1: I've seen so many of these youngsters grow developed, get

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Speaker 1: better that he's the type of kid that I think

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Speaker 1: could very well be there. Now we all know about

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Speaker 1: the evan Neils and the Aquanos and everyone like that.

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Speaker 1: There is depth, there is talent. Pennings a guy that

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Speaker 1: I would site as an example. Now you mentioned o'daf

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Speaker 1: o way along the defensive front. If the Ravens trying

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Speaker 1: to add to the pass rush department this year, whether

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Speaker 1: it's the first day, second day, who were some options

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Speaker 1: that they could be interested in. Well, look, there's a

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Speaker 1: young man that they the DAFE knew and grew up

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Speaker 1: with David Najabo from Michigan. I'm not sure exactly where

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Speaker 1: he's going to land, but he's another great pass rushing player.

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Speaker 1: And just like, oh way, the interesting part was always

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Speaker 1: comes out zero saxa scenery and everybody said, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get He was like, we see the speed.

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Speaker 1: We we're gonna help him unlock that. They did that.

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Speaker 1: This young man comes in a little more accomplished with numbers,

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Speaker 1: but again it was really over one year in Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Another guy that they can groom, keep going, move on.

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Speaker 1: He would be the type of a kid that I

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Speaker 1: could see being paired as another edge rusher on Owns.

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Speaker 1: That's that, And of course the Rabs have Mike McDonald

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Speaker 1: now as the as their defensive coording. He might know

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Speaker 1: a thing or two about him. He might have gotten

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Speaker 1: to know him in that time frame there in Michigan,

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Speaker 1: might be able to provide a little extra on the

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Speaker 1: scouting report. I have a hunch there could be some

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Speaker 1: knowledge their knowledge base, and then the secondary um of course.

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Speaker 1: I mean basically, you know when you look at the

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Speaker 1: straft raves can go, we're talking offensive line, we're talking

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Speaker 1: pass for USh or now we're talking secondary, so they

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Speaker 1: can kind of address a number of different spots. And

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Speaker 1: maybe in some ways that's a good place to be

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Speaker 1: because he gives your flexibility in the secondary. Who were

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Speaker 1: some guys that you like that could be again an

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Speaker 1: option either early or maybe it's the second day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, we'll just talk about throughout. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give you one name that I think I've got the

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Speaker 1: man crush on, and his name is Jalen Petrie at

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Speaker 1: a at a Baylor safety safety position, dropping the box, play,

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Speaker 1: debt play, play in the center field position. He has instincts,

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Speaker 1: he tackles. Watched him at the Senior Bowl all week,

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Speaker 1: won't always around the football, but not just around it,

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Speaker 1: having an effect on what was going on when the

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Speaker 1: ball was in his area. I developed a huge man

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Speaker 1: crushed on him. I was like, I really like him,

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Speaker 1: eager to watch him run, jump, all those things. The

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Speaker 1: numbers turn out to be. But as far as just

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Speaker 1: raw playing reminds me of, it started with Tyrone Matthew.

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Speaker 1: I thought Antoine Winfield, this type of a player. I

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Speaker 1: thought last year, the young man who went to Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay Molden. I think those guys have this this instinctive

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Speaker 1: way of playing the game and finding the football. And

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Speaker 1: that's what I thought about when I watched Petrie awesome.

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Speaker 1: And last question, Charles, I mean, there's whenever we get

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Speaker 1: to the time of year, we hear afraid the phrase

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Speaker 1: talk play like a raving and there's a lot of talking.

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Speaker 1: What what does that mean? What does that mean when

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Speaker 1: you hear it? What it means to me is everyone

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Speaker 1: understands their assignment, understand what's expected of them, knows that

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Speaker 1: they're gonna go about it with maximum ability on every

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Speaker 1: single snap, and then gonna come back and do it

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Speaker 1: again the very next plight, time after time after time.

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Speaker 1: I heard a great speech, that great presentation at John

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh gave a couple of years ago, the Huddle presentation

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Speaker 1: right the Big Film Group, and he talked about the

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Speaker 1: the element of time, chronos and all that. He tied

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Speaker 1: it all all back into how do you affect the team?

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Speaker 1: How do you affect what you do on a daily

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00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: basis that culture that gets magnified. The expectations are spelled

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Speaker 1: out very very well for youngsters when they come in

746
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Speaker 1: shouldn't have any real question about what it means to

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Speaker 1: play like a raven. But those types of things I

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Speaker 1: think are a big part of it. But that effort.

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Speaker 1: But the big thing is give the effort knowing your assignments.

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Speaker 1: Because I can give effort, run around, do all the

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Speaker 1: wrong things, I'm not gonna help my team. But if

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Speaker 1: they know what they're doing and they're giving that effort,

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Speaker 1: consistent play each and every week, awesome. Well, we really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it time, Thanks so much. Enjoy the combine. So

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Speaker 1: another analysts, another one with a lot of penning talk.

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Speaker 1: So clearly there's excitement and interest in that possibility. Um,

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Speaker 1: we've kind of covered that. I don't even think we

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Speaker 1: need to dive too much into it. But I think

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Speaker 1: that's just a clear theme that I've heard as I've

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Speaker 1: talked to people here this week that you know, going

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Speaker 1: with the Northern Iowa guy, maybe the route that the

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Speaker 1: Ravens go if he's there, and I think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I am interested to see, like what the

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Speaker 1: mock drafts look like next week. After there's all these

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Speaker 1: conversations that have been taking place at the combine, because

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Speaker 1: this is kind of where you start to get some consensus.

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Speaker 1: You have a lot of and you see the testing

768
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Speaker 1: and all that. I mean, what they do on the

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Speaker 1: field certainly has an impact on where these guys. There's

770
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Speaker 1: always that guy who just explodes and then you know

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Speaker 1: he goes from being a third round pick to a

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Speaker 1: top fifteen pick. Yeah, um, you know DK Metcalf. Then

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Speaker 1: then DK Metcalf ended up going and what the late

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Speaker 1: second or third Yeah yeah, but but yeah, so then

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Speaker 1: you have like so Penning, you know, Charles Davis mentions

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Speaker 1: like this is a guys they came onto the Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl and all of a sudden, like there's all this

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Speaker 1: doesn't talk about him, Um, kind of like Eric Fisher.

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Speaker 1: He gave made Eric Fisher comparison when he was coming out.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think Penning is gonna end up going

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Speaker 1: one overall, but like the buzz has started on him.

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Speaker 1: So how how far does the hype train go? You know,

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Speaker 1: when does when does that get off the station? Is

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Speaker 1: that the top five, top ten pick? Or is he

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Speaker 1: still in the there in the middle of the first

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Speaker 1: So um, I think how he tests that the combine

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a big part of that, because you

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Speaker 1: know you're gonna see whether kind of the question about

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Speaker 1: him is athleticism, what what kind of athleticism, how good

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Speaker 1: a bender is he? And all that stuff you already know,

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Speaker 1: you know when you put on the pads, kind of

792
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Speaker 1: the mentality like you have this maller right, this this

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Speaker 1: street fighter out there, but you also want to see, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's the upside, what's the athletic potential of this guy?

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Speaker 1: If I'm going to invest the top picking in him?

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Speaker 1: You know? So that I think Shermy Penning is one

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Speaker 1: of the guys who I'm interested to see the most.

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Speaker 1: Uh in terms of workouts? Yeah, I say, way, who

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Speaker 1: else you are are you looking forward to seeing get

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Speaker 1: on the field? The workouts start Thursday to go through

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Speaker 1: the weekend. So who are you looking forward to just

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Speaker 1: watching an action? Well, I'd say another big guy on

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, Minnesota offensive tackle Daniel Falale. Uh. That's

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's six ft eight three eight seven. I

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Speaker 1: thought he measured six ft nine at the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 1: is what I thought. I saw. You got a different

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Speaker 1: measurement here too, leven inches in the ruler here got

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Speaker 1: the guy's got a wingspan bigger than a conor. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so I just think, you know, if he puts the athleticism,

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Speaker 1: if he pairs that with the size, and you know,

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Speaker 1: he has some inconsistent reps of the Senior Bowl, but

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Speaker 1: you know he's got generally very good tape dominant at times.

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Speaker 1: You know, people who have have kind of made some

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Speaker 1: comparisons to Orlando Brown Jr. Because he's just such a

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Speaker 1: massive guy, like Flo, I'm butchering that, aren't I? For late? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm sorry, Daniel, if you come to

817
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Speaker 1: the Ravens, I swear to God, I'll get it right.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, like but Orlando Brown Jr. Had a brutal

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Speaker 1: combined performance. If Daniel has the opposite of that, Like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: is he is he in the late first round? Talk?

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Speaker 1: Now is he gone by the time where I'm I

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Speaker 1: want to project him to the Ravens in the second round?

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Speaker 1: Is he not gonna make it that far? You know,

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Speaker 1: he's somebody that I think will be interesting, interesting to see. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that that's always kind of the the interesting

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Speaker 1: thing about these combined workouts in some regards, like you know,

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Speaker 1: of course you want all these players to you know,

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Speaker 1: put the best roat forward, But if you're interested in

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Speaker 1: the guy and all of a sudden he falls to

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Speaker 1: you because he has a bad common performance, you can

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Speaker 1: end up really benefiting. Obviously, the Ravens benefited with Orlando

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Speaker 1: being there for them in the third round, which at

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Speaker 1: this time four years ago, no one was saying, Man,

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Speaker 1: Orlando Brown is gonna be a nice thir round pick.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was a buzz about him as a

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Speaker 1: mock draft projection to the Ravens in the first round

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Speaker 1: that year. So a guy who I'm looking forward to watching,

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Speaker 1: I did. We're doing this series of two players who

839
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Speaker 1: could be good fits for the Ravens and at cornerback,

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Speaker 1: and it's always easy to just like point to the

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Speaker 1: first round guys and say like here's the top three corners,

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Speaker 1: you know, and just say they're gonna take one of

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Speaker 1: these guys. A guy who I think maybe it would

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Speaker 1: be a second round guy is Kyler Gordon out of Washington.

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Speaker 1: But he's one of these potential combine freaks. So like

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Speaker 1: the Seago out there, it's is, you know, put up

847
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: ridiculous numbers and then all of a sudden, like you

848
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: creep into that first round conversation. Um, I've seen him

849
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: mocked in some first round or it was either mocked

850
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: in first round or he was in Daniel Jeremiah. It's

851
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: like top thirty two, right, so it's like, you know,

852
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: may if he if he, if he tests the way

853
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: that some people expect, then all of a sudden, well,

854
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: you know, kissing goodbye is a second round option. Um,

855
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: so he's somebody to keep an eye on. I mean

856
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: to break Washington corners. Trump mcduffe's the other one, um

857
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: who's been boxing the Ravens in a handful of the

858
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: first round box. Well, and he'll be interesting to watch

859
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: because the tape is excellent. You know, everybody talks about

860
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: how he's like the cleanest player in the draft tape wise.

861
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: But now, like I said, you want to see that

862
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: high end athletic potential. You know, does he does that

863
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: match the tape? And then Sauce Gardner from Cincinnati, you know,

864
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: how fast is he gonna run is the question? You know,

865
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: does he has the length, he has a size, all

866
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: that stuff, like, you know, but you you want to

867
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: see kind of can he turn and run? You know?

868
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: Uh so it'll be it'll be interesting. So you can

869
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: watch all of the all the common workouts on NFL Network.

870
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna take place throughout the weekend. So make sure

871
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: you check that out. And um, you can watch Charles

872
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: Davis Day on Jeremiah all weekend long too, so we

873
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: appreciate them catching up with them here. So anything else

874
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: kind of final thoughts combine related for you? Nah? I mean,

875
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: as I said, I hit fifteen miles per hour on

876
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: the old radar when I was running in the neighborhood.

877
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: So I might have to just strap on the combine tights, okay,

878
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, just go full combine tights and really test

879
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: myself here. Maybe dude like the rich eyes in the

880
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: Run Rich Run. Yeah, yeah, you want to do that

881
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: together this year? You wanna you wouldn't challenge each other.

882
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: You want to go big boy. Well you know it's you.

883
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: You basically you did that. That test kind of cold,

884
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: like there's all this talk around the combine like all

885
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: these guys they prep for the combine. You know, it's

886
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: kind of like doing S A T testing, Like you

887
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: prep for the testing, and so these guys prep for

888
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: the test. It's actually kind of funny, like there's there's

889
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: these you know, they all have different training centers that

890
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: they work with, and I've seen guys like in the

891
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: Convention Center going through stretching and drills and basically making

892
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: sure that like they are, they are at peak performance

893
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: ready to go for all these different tests. Um oh,

894
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: I'll give you. You know you weren't ready when you

895
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: did your little neighborhood rhyme. So if you get in

896
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: all the work, maybe you could get to sixteen fifteen

897
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: and a half. I think seventeen, seventeen. I think seventeen. Alright,

898
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: I think I think you and I need to clock it.

899
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: It's been too long since we've kind of faced off

900
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: and tested our athleticism against each other. Last time we

901
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: did know him down for a challenge. Last time we

902
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: did it, I was robbed and not treated fairly in that.

903
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: In that, well, we'll get a timer on this. Come on,

904
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: we'll use the official like a straight race. Alright, alright,

905
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: there we go. What's the percent chances that one of

906
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: us pops a handy because I'm going ninety eight, got

907
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: a stretch, A lot of stretching between now and then,

908
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: a lot of stretching. Anyway, Anyway, thanks for listening. You

909
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 1: can read us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL

910
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: dot net, and we'll be back with you next week.