Speaker 1: Hey all, welcome back to beat Your Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena and we are.
Speaker 1: Back with the Mentel all roundtable from.
Speaker 3: Hard our speed dating interview style episode.
Speaker 1: There you go. I like that. That was good. Thank you,
Speaker 1: And our first guest today is Spencer. Spencer, welcome to
Speaker 1: Batcher Happy Hour. How are you?
Speaker 4: I'm doing better now? Fantastic to see all your glowing.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you?
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 1: How was How was tonight? How was being back seeing
Speaker 1: all the guys for the first time in a while.
Speaker 4: I'm assuming it's crazy because you go into this experience
Speaker 4: and it's this whirlwind and then you just go back
Speaker 4: to real life and then it's like, okay, I guess
Speaker 4: I'm just back to my day to day and then
Speaker 4: it airs things change and we come back here and
Speaker 4: we have an opportunity to kind of like relive it again.
Speaker 4: So it was back into the frying band quickly.
Speaker 1: Where do you? Where do you live?
Speaker 5: Dallas? Dallas?
Speaker 1: Sexis any and the guys from your season live close
Speaker 1: to you?
Speaker 5: Or now?
Speaker 4: We have a couple of Houston guys. We have actually
Speaker 4: Grand Devin both in Houston. Outside of that, I think
Speaker 4: we're the only Texas guys.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, did you see either of those guys before
Speaker 1: coming back here?
Speaker 4: I did not, But I do have a best friend
Speaker 4: of mine that was on a few seasons ago that
Speaker 4: I've known since college and got to spend a lot
Speaker 4: of time with them.
Speaker 2: So who is it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Connor Saley?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, he was on He was on Hannah
Speaker 1: Brown season correct?
Speaker 5: I think so correct? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, nice, all right, So let's get right into you
Speaker 1: get looped into the drama pretty quickly, which neither of
Speaker 1: us were expecting.
Speaker 2: No, let's kick it off with Aaron.
Speaker 3: I would say, that's the kind of chakra of the
Speaker 3: night for you, I'm assuming of Aaron called out, you
Speaker 3: know when he said to Jem before he left, there's
Speaker 3: some people here I feel like aren't here for the
Speaker 3: right reason, And he admitted to referring to Devin and
Speaker 3: to Sam n who I think, you know, didn't really
Speaker 3: surprise anyone.
Speaker 2: That's kind of a shot.
Speaker 3: But he did say after watching it back, he felt
Speaker 3: like you weren't there for the right reasons either, and
Speaker 3: that you maybe weren't. That's not true, I don't I
Speaker 3: want to be correct here. He said that he didn't
Speaker 3: feel like you were ready for the commitment after watching
Speaker 3: the way you spoke about your ex and how uncomfortable
Speaker 3: that made you.
Speaker 2: Were you expecting him to say this? Did you know
Speaker 2: he might have these feelings?
Speaker 4: Not at all. First off, I don't know anyone who
Speaker 4: would think that was comfortable subject matter to share on
Speaker 4: national television. I mean, the extent of what I shared.
Speaker 4: The only person that knew that up until that point
Speaker 4: was my mother. So sharing that nerve wracking. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 4: But I'm four years removed from it and there's no
Speaker 4: emotions there anymore. And when you get distance in space
Speaker 4: from something, it allows you to see it with a.
Speaker 5: Little more clarity.
Speaker 4: And I've had four years of distance and I've seen
Speaker 4: it for what it was. When you're in the middle
Speaker 4: of something, it's tough to see things for what they
Speaker 4: actually are. Yeah, but it's shocking to say the least.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, sometimes guys say something to get
Speaker 4: air time, and maybe someone wants to be on the beach,
Speaker 4: but who knows.
Speaker 3: I also think that there's something to be said for
Speaker 3: like having to speak on a topic that you haven't
Speaker 3: probably spoken about in depth from start to finish in
Speaker 3: a very long time, and you might just be kind
Speaker 3: of like finding your footing as you're revisiting this time
Speaker 3: in your life that was so long ago.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I actually never spoke about it in its entirety
Speaker 4: once people had gotten bits and pieces. It wasn't easy
Speaker 4: for me. It was frankly pretty embarrassing. I didn't want
Speaker 4: to bring it up to my closest friends and family that, yeah,
Speaker 4: my ex fiance two months before the wedding leaves and
Speaker 4: sheets on me and it's not it's not fun, it's
Speaker 4: you know, not a fun thing to talk about. So yeah, no,
Speaker 4: I wasn't comfortable talking about it. Thank God that Jen's
Speaker 4: the woman she is, and she was there and coaxed
Speaker 4: me through. It gave me the time, the space, the
Speaker 4: platform to be able to share something that'd been weighing
Speaker 4: on me and something that I hadn't been able to
Speaker 4: share in its entirety. But for it to come up
Speaker 4: or as a reason for me not being ready or
Speaker 4: an engagement or ready for marriage is the most ludicrous
Speaker 4: thing that we heard all night tonight. Or it's some
Speaker 4: pretty pretty out there things I would.
Speaker 3: Say, speaking of out there things, I do want to
Speaker 3: ask you as well.
Speaker 2: Another thing that tied back to you.
Speaker 3: We saw a lot of guys forgiving or at least
Speaker 3: giving Sam m a lot of grace tonight when he
Speaker 3: was in the hot seat, and and you came in
Speaker 3: a little bit on the stronger side, asking him, or
Speaker 3: not asking him, but maybe making a statement that you
Speaker 3: feel like he used the term competition a lot. Do
Speaker 3: you want to kind of expand on what you meant
Speaker 3: there and maybe tell us where you feel you stand
Speaker 3: with Sam.
Speaker 2: I'm sure right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Sam, along with other men, there were other
Speaker 4: men in the house that use the word competition a lot.
Speaker 4: And when pertaining to love, I don't think describing what
Speaker 4: we were in the middle of as a competition is accurate.
Speaker 4: I think that you can compete to when a sports game.
Speaker 4: I think that you can compete to try to get
Speaker 4: a promotion at your job. I don't think you can
Speaker 4: compete for love, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: it's a two way street. You can want someone to
Speaker 4: love you as much as as much as you want to,
Speaker 4: It doesn't mean they're going to love you. You can't make
Speaker 4: someone love you. You can compete to be able to get
Speaker 4: more time to show them the person you are you
Speaker 4: can compete to be able to relay to them important
Speaker 4: facts about yourself that may sway how they feel. But
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it's not a competition.
Speaker 4: In my eyes, I think a lot of guys get
Speaker 4: pulled into that competition, especially when there's all these other
Speaker 4: handsome guys going for the same woman.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: And I also told him that words carry weight, and
Speaker 4: I think he knows that, and I think some of
Speaker 4: those words were used to try to win as a competition,
Speaker 4: and I think he owned up to that to an
Speaker 4: extent tonight, and that takes I have to credit where
Speaker 4: credits to because getting up there, knowing what he was
Speaker 4: walking into that couldn't have been easy. But no, I
Speaker 4: think he, along with everyone else, deserve deserves to be
Speaker 4: held accountable for their actions and what they say.
Speaker 1: And you implied Aaron maybe wanting a ticket to Paradise.
Speaker 1: If they asked you to go to Paradise, would you
Speaker 1: do it?
Speaker 4: I the last bucket in my life that I want
Speaker 4: to fill as a relationship, and Paradise has worked for
Speaker 4: a lot of people. I'm single, and the opportunity comes around,
Speaker 4: I'm not opposed to meeting my person on the beach.
Speaker 4: It's obviously worked out for some people, you know, So yeah,
Speaker 4: I would absolutely be open to it for sure.
Speaker 1: And what would you do? How would you be with
Speaker 1: Aaron if he was there? Are you guys on bad
Speaker 1: terms at this point now? Or did you hash it
Speaker 1: out a little bit? After hash it out a little bit?
Speaker 1: We're also very different people. I think if someone's look
Speaker 1: for that, they're not looking for me.
Speaker 5: And I'm okay with.
Speaker 1: The great, great, amazing.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you thanks for taking the time. Yeah, thank
Speaker 5: you so much.
Speaker 1: Enjoy your night.
Speaker 5: Thank you. I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 4: Enjoy your nine too.
Speaker 1: All right. Our second guest stop is a guy we
Speaker 1: just had on this podcast, but he's bad because Beck Jeremy,
Speaker 1: welcome back.
Speaker 6: I would like an introduction like UFC when he just
Speaker 6: like yells it up the.
Speaker 5: Top of.
Speaker 1: Jeremy. How was it seeing everyone tonight?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 6: I mean, you guys have been through similar experiences like
Speaker 6: I become like brothers with some of these guys.
Speaker 5: So it's great to see everyone.
Speaker 6: It's been months, obviously a long day, but it's we're
Speaker 6: all in good spirits and the happy to see each
Speaker 6: other and happy to see Jen again. And happy to
Speaker 6: watch back some footage and yell at each other.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're all. We're all good.
Speaker 3: The best part of the tell Alls, at least when
Speaker 3: you're there filming me as a contestant, is the end.
Speaker 3: There's such a feeling of relief afterwards.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I feel it's weird because I guess like you take
Speaker 6: a little break, but you always know that tell all
Speaker 6: is going to happen and out.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah for now. Jen Jen, the woman that you
Speaker 8: most kind of gage too. How is it seeing her today?
Speaker 6: I always smile around her. She's always wanted to be around,
Speaker 6: So we're all good. She seems happy, which is important.
Speaker 6: So yeah, it was good to see her. It was
Speaker 6: going to catch up very very quickly.
Speaker 1: Jay Bear. Did she give you that nickname at Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: it jair Bear.
Speaker 6: She came to me in like second week. Yeah, it
Speaker 6: was pretty early, so jere Bear. I think it's cute.
Speaker 2: It is cute. I like it.
Speaker 3: We did see you jump in though, and somewhat call
Speaker 3: out Sam m for being there for Daisy or Maria.
Speaker 3: That was Do you want to expand on that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I was not part of that date at
Speaker 5: the time.
Speaker 6: I was rooming with Devin. So he came back and
Speaker 6: like I start, I heard about what happened. I knew
Speaker 6: it was going to be bad, so I was already
Speaker 6: interested to see what was.
Speaker 5: Going to happen. I didn't know that happens.
Speaker 6: And I hear him like say it on TV, and
Speaker 6: I I like, by John dropped, I'll know about you guys,
Speaker 6: But I was wild our.
Speaker 2: Jaw draft as well.
Speaker 1: Because I mean, he he defended himself and it made
Speaker 1: sense until he said but then he was like, but
Speaker 1: then I was happy was Jen. But then you said, well,
Speaker 1: you didn't know it was Jen because you had already laughed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then I was confused, and I kind of.
Speaker 5: Ye what he said was like he said it was
Speaker 5: out of context, and he said to his mom like, oh,
Speaker 5: but Maria and Daisy aren't my type.
Speaker 6: So but then, like he said himself, he thought it
Speaker 6: was going to be one of them, and you don't
Speaker 6: find out that and until you're already there.
Speaker 5: So because he went on.
Speaker 1: Thinking it would people so yeah, But in his in
Speaker 1: his defense, I will say, I do think majority of
Speaker 1: people thought it was probably gonna be Daisy or Maria.
Speaker 6: Oh no, which he did too. But what he was
Speaker 6: saying like, that's not his type. So I'm like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 6: you go, that's very ah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We also saw you speak up at one point kind
Speaker 3: of in defense of Devin just because he wasn't there tonight.
Speaker 3: What compelled you to do that and is there anything
Speaker 3: more that you wish you'd said?
Speaker 6: No, I mean, like I feel like I sort of
Speaker 6: spoke with that him quickly on our podcast, But first off,
Speaker 6: he's not.
Speaker 5: Here to defend himself.
Speaker 6: You shouldn't be like, of course you could talk like
Speaker 6: a little shit, but you can't go in on someone
Speaker 6: whether there's when they can't talk back to you. And
Speaker 6: I was friends with him, and I think like the
Speaker 6: moment that they were talking about was like one of
Speaker 6: the moments where I was like, oh, I respect this guy,
Speaker 6: Like he's not.
Speaker 5: Just going to take shit from someone.
Speaker 6: I do think it was the right thing for him
Speaker 6: to talk to him. If I was in issues, I
Speaker 6: would have talked to her first time. Might also just
Speaker 6: get it out of the way.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, how do you feel about Grant being
Speaker 1: the new Bachelor?
Speaker 5: I think it's a great thing. I don't know about you, guys.
Speaker 5: I think it's an amazing pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I roomed with him.
Speaker 6: When I was in New Zealand, so I got to
Speaker 6: know him well. Obviously great looking guy, talented, small or everything,
Speaker 6: but he's also the type of person who you could
Speaker 6: just like go it talk to and oh listen and
Speaker 6: you can have.
Speaker 5: A good conversation with him. I think. I mean, you
Speaker 5: already know the lines out in the door. So I
Speaker 5: get in the mansion with him, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see if that's Do you have a question,
Speaker 1: I do have a question. We saw two tickets to Paradise,
Speaker 1: which I actually believe is George Clooney. Yeah, Roberts as
Speaker 1: a sign as well, maybe yeah, probably, Well two tickets
Speaker 1: have been given outthan Yeah, are you expecting one? And
Speaker 1: if you get one, are you in?
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't expect anything in the slide. I didn't expect
Speaker 6: to be on the Bachelor rat listen. I I take
Speaker 6: it like every day, day by day.
Speaker 5: I don't know what's going to happen. If it presents
Speaker 5: itself and I'm single and I'm in like the right
Speaker 5: mind set, Yeah, I'll go and Jonathan, I keep on
Speaker 5: my boys, so it'll be fun when we're not all
Speaker 5: dating with the same exact girl.
Speaker 1: I can tell you that it is.
Speaker 2: That is fun that part.
Speaker 1: All right, Jeremy, thank you very much. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Coming back on. See you guys, go on bye, okay,
Speaker 1: Sam and sam En is back in the hot seat. Sam,
Speaker 1: what's up? How are you you? Honestly, you were for
Speaker 1: the beginning of this, uh the episode, you're the star
Speaker 1: of the show.
Speaker 5: I appreciate that a good moments.
Speaker 7: I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: Were you expecting to be like kind of one of
Speaker 1: the main focus points at the beginning of this of.
Speaker 9: Course, because there's a lot of unresolved tension between me
Speaker 9: and a group of individuals within the house. So I
Speaker 9: was very happy to actually be put in a position
Speaker 9: where I can actually unresolve all that, like, to be
Speaker 9: able to solve that tension.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like you got a lot of flock
Speaker 3: for wearing that leather jacket.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Dunham slash leather jack.
Speaker 9: We'll find with materials and materials nowadays. Come on, it's
Speaker 9: twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Was it an easy decision to wear a back out tonight?
Speaker 9: You know, I think it just brings a different order
Speaker 9: out of me, you know, it brings out hot energy.
Speaker 2: It brings out energy.
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying. It brings a different type
Speaker 9: of side of me. Uh No, honestly, it's just it's iconic.
Speaker 9: I want to just kind of just make kind of
Speaker 9: fun of myself, and it's kind of just you know,
Speaker 9: have a good good time.
Speaker 1: You seem you honestly, you seem much more relaxed and chill.
Speaker 1: First time we had you have this podcast, you wore
Speaker 1: a little tense at the beginning, So you seem you
Speaker 1: seem good.
Speaker 2: I feel like tonight, it's what it's because I.
Speaker 9: Confess my love on it of like a stage, right,
Speaker 9: I'm like, oh god, this is like, you know, it's
Speaker 9: like it doesn't feel good ever, right, I was just
Speaker 9: reliving those emotions.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, do you feel good about your interaction
Speaker 1: with the guys tonight?
Speaker 9: Yeah, of course, you know. I feel like, uh, instead
Speaker 9: of building a wall between each other, we.
Speaker 5: Built a bridge.
Speaker 1: And it was very it was very healthy.
Speaker 9: You know, there was a few like there was kind
Speaker 9: of throwing jobs here and there, but I feel like
Speaker 9: we conducted ourselves very professionally and just like helled each other.
Speaker 9: This was the actual first moment on the show where
Speaker 9: mutual respect to show.
Speaker 1: I thought you handled yourself very well tonight.
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 1: I was really impressed the football game. I was after
Speaker 1: watching the football game with you, I was a little worried,
Speaker 1: but you came dog out, what are you talking about?
Speaker 5: Play with you?
Speaker 1: You were fired up, You were fired up, but no,
Speaker 1: honestly like I thought you really. I thought you really
Speaker 1: handled yourself well tonight, Like these situations could be just honestly,
Speaker 1: really difficult, and of course sometimes it's not really easy
Speaker 1: expressing how you feel, and I thought you did a
Speaker 1: good job.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like your main point of conflict tonight was
Speaker 3: with Aaron when he kind of just rearticulated that he
Speaker 3: was directing his comment about not being ready for a
Speaker 3: proposal at you and Devin obviously Devan's out here tonight.
Speaker 3: How did it feel? Kind of I feel like you
Speaker 3: assumed that he was talking about you, But yeah, you
Speaker 3: just hearing him admit it and kind of going back
Speaker 3: and forth with him about that.
Speaker 9: I kind of knew already, right, Devin and I kind
Speaker 9: of just Devin, Brian and a few others.
Speaker 1: We kind of rode side by side.
Speaker 9: We two meet each other because we both realized that Hey,
Speaker 9: we're here to find love, pursuit family, and we're all
Speaker 9: at different stages in like this journey, right, and everyone
Speaker 9: has the different approaches, And yeah, it was just you know,
Speaker 9: my entire time there I was and phantomized, right, and
Speaker 9: that was it was. It was nice to kind of
Speaker 9: like kind of showcase that and kind of like you know,
Speaker 9: say like, hey, like this is what happens when you
Speaker 9: constantly call a man, a kid, a boy, you know,
Speaker 9: and then you just pinpoint on times around like lashing
Speaker 9: out right, like no, it's like, you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 9: here to find love. I know I might not be ready,
Speaker 9: but what I do know is I shot every shot
Speaker 9: I had and yeah, like it might have you know,
Speaker 9: not gone the wage I was intending it to.
Speaker 1: But uh, there's no regrets when it comes to like
Speaker 1: did I put it all out there? You know? I
Speaker 1: literally put it all out there on the fen, you.
Speaker 2: Know, as Joe saying you, did you put it all
Speaker 2: out there?
Speaker 3: What do you feel like now watching back your entire
Speaker 3: journey on the show and just reflecting on this first
Speaker 3: experience with love and relationships, do you feel like you
Speaker 3: learned that you want to take forward now into your
Speaker 3: future dating life.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, a ton of things, right, like don't call it,
Speaker 9: don't call yourself a version, rap the bat, don't don't
Speaker 9: call our wife all that. So it's mainly don't be
Speaker 9: don't overmanticize the process. I think that's the biggest thing
Speaker 9: for me was don't overmanticized process and don't take myself
Speaker 9: so serious. Right, I can be a very goofy, funny
Speaker 9: viewde just if I'm into like a serious mode.
Speaker 1: I just it's it's a flip switch, right, the lights
Speaker 1: like switches.
Speaker 9: So for me, it's kind of like, you know, learning
Speaker 9: from all my experience, like learning from my What's beautiful
Speaker 9: is that I can see myself, right, so I can
Speaker 9: actually kind of grow and learn from this. It's like
Speaker 9: actually watching like tape, you know, and also from other guys,
Speaker 9: right seeing how they were interacting all this stuff. It's like,
Speaker 9: in a weird way, like a learning Like it's like
Speaker 9: a you know, dating one of work. Yeah, and uh yeah,
Speaker 9: it's basically just taking time to self reflect and growth
Speaker 9: and what I've done.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we saw that the kind of the three
Speaker 3: people that you were up against tonight and throughout the
Speaker 3: season were Aaron Sam, m and Thomas, and it didn't
Speaker 3: really seem like any of them offered you any sort
Speaker 3: of apology tonight. I know that you said that, you know,
Speaker 3: you offered an apology and you weren't expecting or asking
Speaker 3: for one from anyone else. But was there anything that
Speaker 3: you were hoping maybe went down tonight that didn't.
Speaker 9: Yeah, of course, Like first, like there's a there's a
Speaker 9: few other things, but like I, I never placed a trophy.
Speaker 1: That's that was a fallacy.
Speaker 9: But besides that is Yeah, I was really hoping for
Speaker 9: that they would take some short accountability by the end
Speaker 9: of the day to each his own. And I'm happy
Speaker 9: that we're all kind of friends now. But yeah, no,
Speaker 9: you know it was.
Speaker 1: It was. It is what it is. It can't change that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I won't demand it, Sam, Sam, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for coming back on and taking easy in year flag
Speaker 1: football leagues, because.
Speaker 9: You do you want me on your team, Joe, Come on,
Speaker 9: if I was, if I was taking teams, I would
Speaker 9: pick you.
Speaker 5: Yo.
Speaker 1: Finish the sentence. What is the best offense?
Speaker 2: A good defense?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 9: The best defense there was John mitch x pro Seahawks
Speaker 9: on right week, I'm left wing love brget Sam, whose
Speaker 9: lane they run every time?
Speaker 7: They ran my lane?
Speaker 1: Every look t they ran my lane every time, and
Speaker 1: I stopped them. I stopped every point. We'll leave it
Speaker 1: at that.
Speaker 3: Dam you shine of flight football, and you shine tonight. Congratulations.
Speaker 5: Hey grocery store Joe, what's up?
Speaker 7: Hi?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 10: I hope you don't think I was actually coming at you,
Speaker 10: because I actually I arg you guys so much. So
Speaker 10: I'm so sorry because I did. It's like, because you
Speaker 10: said I've clapping with one hand. That's not a talent.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, damn, girl, like you could show me
Speaker 5: no long.
Speaker 6: No like what look this is a talent.
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Speaker 7: I didn't mean no like.
Speaker 2: Harm Oh wait, I feel like I showed you that.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is so funny.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just.
Speaker 3: I swear no no no, no, no hate, no hate.
Speaker 2: That's so sorry.
Speaker 5: That was on me. That was she was talking Jose
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Speaker 2: No, that's very funny that you posted that.
Speaker 3: I love it when you guys interact with stuff that
Speaker 3: we're saying on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Can your you live it? Do you still live in Chamber?
Speaker 5: Yes? I do so.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're a Woodfield mall guy.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I do you miss it at all? Man,
Speaker 5: you needn't come back.
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Speaker 11: Where Schomberg, Schomberg is.
Speaker 1: It's it's like a it's a Chicago suburb. It's it's
Speaker 1: probably so. I'm from Melrose Park. It's probably like one.
Speaker 1: It's like twenty five minutes from my house.
Speaker 5: Oh shit, Joey from Melos Parks Park.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sage boy, I'm from Malros But you guys have
Speaker 1: Johnny's beef. You guys got a Giants beat somewhere close
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Speaker 5: There is one of Longton Heights. And there's one over Bye.
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Speaker 1: Okay, nice. Sorry, we probably need this step. We need
Speaker 1: to talk a little more.
Speaker 2: Butler, Yeah, the show you're talk about that so.
Speaker 1: Joe, I'm sorry, we are we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: we you know, we got a few minutes here, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go backwards. I'm gonna go backwards. Actually you
Speaker 1: get a ticket? Well, okay, why the fun would you
Speaker 1: let that tarantula on your lap?
Speaker 6: Why?
Speaker 1: I get And you said it too, You said like
Speaker 1: I did it for Yeah, we.
Speaker 3: Were with you when because we were like, don't do it,
Speaker 3: don't shoot it when and then when you were like,
Speaker 3: I did it last time for Jaen, why would I
Speaker 3: do this? Like what are you going to offer me?
Speaker 3: I was like, damn straight, you better negotiate right now.
Speaker 10: With you the whole time, my girl, I appreciate you.
Speaker 10: But yeah, I mean they offered me a ticket to periodise.
Speaker 10: So I was like, okay, maybe it was definitely well
Speaker 10: worth it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you did the right, you made the right and
Speaker 3: you know what, they got it off you pretty quick.
Speaker 3: I thought for sure they're going to have that time.
Speaker 5: Oh girl, girl, that was a long time.
Speaker 10: No no, no, no, no, that was a long time.
Speaker 10: Don't don't that was a long ass time. And the
Speaker 10: thing is he got it like moving and wiggling at
Speaker 10: the end, and I was like, you better get that ship,
Speaker 10: Get that ship, get that ship.
Speaker 1: Again. What if it just like like laid eggs on
Speaker 1: you or something. I have that because that's what I
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna ask.
Speaker 2: That's my fig hear. Why would you say that.
Speaker 1: That's the most random thing.
Speaker 5: Laid eggs. I mean, not even bike being He's just
Speaker 5: laid eggs on you. He was just breathing on my
Speaker 5: fucking lap.
Speaker 2: It was terrifying. You're so rave, you're so ray, So.
Speaker 1: What is your all right? So great?
Speaker 9: Though?
Speaker 1: You get the you get a ticket to Paradise. This
Speaker 1: is kind of the first time we've ever seen them
Speaker 1: do this. You're got any strategy or what's your mindset
Speaker 1: going into this now?
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm gonna keep it her gluck brother. I
Speaker 10: don't think there's any strategy at all. I think she's
Speaker 10: got to be yourself. I mean, I'm looking to find
Speaker 10: a woman of my dreams to fall in love. So
Speaker 10: if I'm not myself, it's not gonna work out, right.
Speaker 10: I can't sell her a false reality. I gotta be myself,
Speaker 10: not saying that you're looking for anything like juicy anything.
Speaker 10: But like, I don't think there's no strategy. I think
Speaker 10: I just gotta go in and try my best. I mean,
Speaker 10: if she's feeling me and then she feels me and
Speaker 10: she doesn't, then.
Speaker 1: But he Okay, are you are you familiar with the
Speaker 1: single women within Bachelor Nations and now I'm hoping to
Speaker 1: see there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I was just talking about this girl named Olivia Lewis.
Speaker 10: She's she's beautiful, I think hourly and also inwardly. I
Speaker 10: think she didn't get the love that she deserved when
Speaker 10: she was on Paradise. And I promise you if she
Speaker 10: does show up, I would give her all the attention
Speaker 10: to love that she deserves because she's a queen of
Speaker 10: my eyes and I think she has a lot of personality.
Speaker 5: I think she can match mine.
Speaker 1: I like that you didn't try away from.
Speaker 5: Right now.
Speaker 1: So that you're that's your number one going in.
Speaker 5: I think that's where that for you.
Speaker 11: Thank you so God.
Speaker 5: I love I love Serena, Serena, I love you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
Speaker 5: No, I rock with you. I rock with you, the
Speaker 5: home Tire Hero.
Speaker 1: But I would have called your ass out tonight. I
Speaker 1: would have called your ass out tonight so fast? Would you?
Speaker 1: Who was the guy that you called out, Oh everyone
Speaker 1: you called you call out a lot of people, But
Speaker 1: that was I think it was. It was him with
Speaker 1: the I love you thing with sam M. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you said I but and then you're like, and
Speaker 1: I love you. You told him that you love him.
Speaker 1: If I was him, I would have came back at
Speaker 1: you and have been like, expressed to me why, And
Speaker 1: I would think.
Speaker 5: I would have been giving you.
Speaker 1: But I don't think you would have had the words.
Speaker 1: I don't think you would have had the words.
Speaker 5: No, that's cap, that's cap dog.
Speaker 1: I give you the words, why do you love sam?
Speaker 1: Why do you love sam M?
Speaker 10: Sam M is an actual loyal as dude. So what
Speaker 10: you guys see is actually who he is. So he
Speaker 10: will go to bat for you if he rocks with you.
Speaker 10: So he's a person, that is. He may not communicate
Speaker 10: himself to the best, but I'm so thankful how genuine
Speaker 10: he is. He didn't shy away from being who the
Speaker 10: person he is, and that's all you can ask for
Speaker 10: a person.
Speaker 5: But he is loyal to a fall. That boy is loyal.
Speaker 10: So I mean again, like I I got all my
Speaker 10: brothers accountable, and that's why I kind of you know,
Speaker 10: I mentioned that in the beginning, and he addressed it
Speaker 10: and he alled up to his So that's all you can,
Speaker 10: you know, ask for in somebody.
Speaker 1: So yeah, right you there you go. You made me
Speaker 1: my words?
Speaker 11: Good?
Speaker 2: Did you know that you were going to go in tonight?
Speaker 7: And hello?
Speaker 5: All right, I'm on here.
Speaker 11: I love you.
Speaker 2: Have a little moment on camera.
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, Hey, hometown hero, my boy, grocery store show, Serena,
Speaker 10: It's all love.
Speaker 5: Now, that's my girl, Serena. I'm your biggest cheerleader from
Speaker 5: now on. I'm gonna be posting. You are the best.
Speaker 5: I love you, guys.
Speaker 1: Fire, get out of here, Aaron, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I could interview you. Look at you. You
Speaker 1: sound so much like your brother.
Speaker 7: It's wild, but we don't look alike. We just soundedlike, No,
Speaker 7: you don't, actually don't. I mean you can tell you
Speaker 7: looking I'll ask you.
Speaker 5: The questions right now.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, don't you are?
Speaker 7: You are?
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Overall your your You're a better You're a better person.
Speaker 2: Joe's just saying this hoping that NOAEH listens against pissed off.
Speaker 7: I was, yeah, I was seeing you up Joeah, whatever
Speaker 7: you had to get out there.
Speaker 5: This is the tell all yes, all right, let's uh yeah,
Speaker 5: let's let's let's get into it.
Speaker 2: How are you feeling?
Speaker 3: Because I feel like this was much anticipated for you
Speaker 3: after the way you went out, probably for you to
Speaker 3: kind of get back out there and share your story.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I really wanted to add clarity in context. I
Speaker 7: don't know if I succeeded in doing that, but yeah,
Speaker 7: it was. It got a little uh hot heavy out there.
Speaker 7: I feel like people were as soon as a word
Speaker 7: got out of my mouth, everyone was chiming in jumping
Speaker 7: on me. So you know, I'm someone pretty thick skin
Speaker 7: I do. I was just trying to be honest about
Speaker 7: whatever was going on. Whether they liked it or not,
Speaker 7: that's you know, that was my decision and that's how
Speaker 7: I was feeling. So so I was fun. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 7: It was good to kind of see everyone and just
Speaker 7: put it all out there and see how the guys
Speaker 7: reacted and just you know, has some fun with it.
Speaker 3: I want to say, I was surprised because I did
Speaker 3: expect that you were going to own up to what
Speaker 3: you said and say Devin and Samm or sam n sorry,
Speaker 3: but I wasn't expecting you to throw Spencer into that mix?
Speaker 2: What compel that decision?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think in the moment, I was thinking definitely
Speaker 7: about Devin and SAMN. That was pretty obvious, And as
Speaker 7: I watched kind of the season a little bit, I
Speaker 7: just felt Spencer, maybe, you know, having a similar experience
Speaker 7: with him through that one on one, maybe he wasn't
Speaker 7: as ready as he had thought. So it really was
Speaker 7: just an opportunity for him to have a platform, and
Speaker 7: I was I just just having a conversation and just
Speaker 7: seemed to get way out of hand from what I
Speaker 7: was trying to get at. So it wasn't out of
Speaker 7: like bad blood or anything like that. It was just
Speaker 7: in observation Aaron's opinion that was it. You know, this
Speaker 7: is not truth or gospel.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you're at these things, it's like
Speaker 1: you're giving your opinion, but they're not really letting you talk,
Speaker 1: and then there's like seven guys coming at you. So
Speaker 1: it is you're you're kind of in a position.
Speaker 5: That's my whole thought, you know, just like let me
Speaker 5: talk and then you can respond.
Speaker 7: But yeah, it was very especially from like certain people
Speaker 7: that you know, the whole season they didn't say much
Speaker 7: at all, and then like at the tell all, it's
Speaker 7: like here they are ready to talk about everything. So
Speaker 7: it was it was an environment that it was difficult
Speaker 7: to to explain things, but I tried my best.
Speaker 1: Spencer mentioned implied, you may be looking for a ticket
Speaker 1: to Paradise. Is that something you are interested in?
Speaker 5: I'm open to it. My life is pretty crazy right now.
Speaker 7: I'm I'm focused on myself and like my career and
Speaker 7: like everything I have up in front of me, but
Speaker 7: my over the thing I want most in life is
Speaker 7: to fall in love. So if an opportunity like Paradise
Speaker 7: came about and I was able to swing it, of
Speaker 7: course I'd be there. I think it's something that you know.
Speaker 7: I'm not like itching gotta go to Paradise, but if it,
Speaker 7: if the invitation is extended, I would gladly accept and
Speaker 7: as long as the schedule works, I'll be there.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that's pretty much every guy that was on
Speaker 1: that stage. So it's like that everybody wants. Everybody wants
Speaker 1: to Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think in Paradise. I think I think you
Speaker 2: would do well.
Speaker 3: I think it would be more cohesive to your personality,
Speaker 3: and I think you would have a good chance of
Speaker 3: finding someone there.
Speaker 7: I agree with you.
Speaker 5: I think I'm someone.
Speaker 7: You know, the the Bacheorette is such a it's such
Speaker 7: a shotgun type of like you really got you don't
Speaker 7: know who's going to come in and interrupt you. It's
Speaker 7: so difficult to like I'm someone that I have a lot.
Speaker 7: I feel like I have a lot of emotional intelligence.
Speaker 7: I need that that connection with someone and to feel
Speaker 7: like we're both in this thing. And I feel like
Speaker 7: that was something that Jenna and I, you know, kind
Speaker 7: of struggled with where I kind of poured myself out
Speaker 7: in you know, the final after like the group date
Speaker 7: rows or date right before I left, and I just
Speaker 7: didn't She didn't really in turn, do the same thing.
Speaker 7: So it's really difficult. So I think an environment like paradise,
Speaker 7: where you have more time just to like banter and
Speaker 7: really get to know each other and it's not so like,
Speaker 7: you know, so quick, I would do well at So
Speaker 7: we'll see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you said, obviously the guys were kind of jumping
Speaker 3: on you tonight. There was a lot of people talking.
Speaker 3: Is there anything that you wish you got the chance
Speaker 3: to say or explain further that you didn't.
Speaker 7: I really think the book thing it was not. I
Speaker 7: would me and Devin from a like personality standpoint very different, right,
Speaker 7: that's totally I don't need to explain that. But the
Speaker 7: gesture of why I do what I do. I'm someone that,
Speaker 7: for better or for worse, I genuinely care about people,
Speaker 7: and in that moment, I genuinely cared about him because
Speaker 7: he didn't realize how he comes off or even understood
Speaker 7: how he makes other people feel. He's just like, this
Speaker 7: is just who I am, and I don't care, and
Speaker 7: so I want It was like a token of like, hey,
Speaker 7: I don't want this to be just what Aaron said.
Speaker 7: I was the one being affected. I could have chosen
Speaker 7: the path, you know, the Sam M. Thomas path of
Speaker 7: like let's just fight it out, and you know, I don't.
Speaker 7: You know, I knew that would was not productive. So
Speaker 7: I wanted to just genuinely care about him, give him
Speaker 7: a gift. You know. It wasn't like a hey, go
Speaker 7: read this and figure life out. It was like, Hey,
Speaker 7: I want you to succeed. If it's with Jen, I'm
Speaker 7: rooting for you. If it's you know, this is a
Speaker 7: TV show. At the end of the day if it's
Speaker 7: with someone else, like, I want you to better yourself
Speaker 7: and be the best version of yourself. So that was
Speaker 7: the intent of it, and I feel like that was
Speaker 7: missed and it was just all this, oh, Aaron thinks
Speaker 7: he knows everything, miss her self help guru, and that's
Speaker 7: well it was.
Speaker 1: It was a book. It was a book that helped
Speaker 1: you out, so you in turn wanted to give it
Speaker 1: to him.
Speaker 7: So yeah, it was a very transformative. I went through
Speaker 7: like kind of a pretty life changing thing after my
Speaker 7: divorce and just really had to come to terms with
Speaker 7: who I was as a person, kind of rebuild, and
Speaker 7: I was so closed off to life, so close off
Speaker 7: to emotions, and that book in particular was one of
Speaker 7: the first ones I read because it was short and
Speaker 7: I'm not that smart.
Speaker 5: And yeah I was.
Speaker 7: I was out in the middle of like a different country,
Speaker 7: and I was just like really found a new sense
Speaker 7: of like who I was and understanding people. And the
Speaker 7: biggest thing was empathy. How to put myself in someone
Speaker 7: else's shoes, understand their perspective.
Speaker 5: And that's really what I was trying to help Devan do.
Speaker 5: In that moment, I almost called them, no.
Speaker 3: Don't call him Dylan again, Aaron, But so then, you know,
Speaker 3: putting yourself in Devin's shoes, do you think you can
Speaker 3: understand why he reacted the way he did to receiving
Speaker 3: the book.
Speaker 7: I think he did realize it was sincere but he
Speaker 7: also was kind of like didn't believe it. He thought
Speaker 7: he didn't want to let me win, you know whatever
Speaker 7: that is. So I think he initially was like pushing
Speaker 7: back at it. So I get his opinion about that
Speaker 7: and how I'm someone I have a growth mindset. If
Speaker 7: someone wants to say something about me, I will always
Speaker 7: try to understand where they're coming from. I might just
Speaker 7: be like, hey, that's just your opinion. Frankly I disagree
Speaker 7: and then we you know, that's it. But I'll always
Speaker 7: try to listen. And yeah, if someone ever wanted to
Speaker 7: give me a book, I would.
Speaker 5: Be all for it.
Speaker 7: I will maybe read it or maybe it'll go on
Speaker 7: my bookshelf. But you know, that's just we're different people.
Speaker 7: So I understand that about him, and I can see
Speaker 7: how he could say, hey, like thank you, but no
Speaker 7: thank you whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, last question. We do see your twin brother
Speaker 1: Noah in the stands tonight and Abby. He kind of
Speaker 1: you know, and he kind of spoke his opinion and
Speaker 1: he on his season was on the receiving hand of
Speaker 1: the book, this book Shit's got end. How did you
Speaker 1: feel hearing in talk?
Speaker 7: I think I kind of knew what he was going
Speaker 7: to say in a way, you know, I'm reading his
Speaker 7: mind as a swin, But I think he said what
Speaker 7: he needed to say. I think he towed both lines.
Speaker 7: He understood. When Noah received his book from Bennett, he
Speaker 7: was like twenty five, and honestly or even younger, he
Speaker 7: was very immature, and I think he deserved that. I
Speaker 7: think now he's gotten a little bit older, he's had
Speaker 7: to figure out some things with life. I mean, he's
Speaker 7: about to get married in October, which hope they'll see
Speaker 7: both there. I think he understood the sentiment. You know,
Speaker 7: it wasn't a dig, It wasn't that let me put
Speaker 7: someone down kind of moment. So I think he was
Speaker 7: trying to bridge both sides. I mean, I think ultimately
Speaker 7: he was like, why did you do that? Like you
Speaker 7: shouldn't have done that. That's just his personality. But we're
Speaker 7: very different people. So I think he was trying to
Speaker 7: bridge the gap of like, I see both ways.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I think that's how it got us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Cool.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, looking forward to meeting you in person,
Speaker 1: and thanks so much for coming on the podcast.
Speaker 7: Yeah, great to see you both.
Speaker 5: Well, all right, I.
Speaker 1: All right, Jen, Jen is our next guess, Jen. Well,
Speaker 1: what's up? How you doing?
Speaker 11: I'm good? How are you doing?
Speaker 1: We're good, We're good. So tonight you just said you
Speaker 1: chose the islands and came out, but it's his call
Speaker 1: it you came out swigged.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: First, well, first let's talk about sam M because you
Speaker 1: definitely let him have it. It did seem like that
Speaker 1: was something that was kind of weighing on you, and
Speaker 1: I'm assuming after watching it all back, you're like, all right,
Speaker 1: well you my peace.
Speaker 3: Of mind, and if I'm gonna be honest, your tone
Speaker 3: is the tone that I was anticipating from everyone tonight
Speaker 3: regarding sam M, and I was surprised by it was
Speaker 3: a lot more grace given than I was just expecting,
Speaker 3: not saying like he should or shouldn't have gotten it.
Speaker 3: And then you know, it's getting kind of koombai eye you.
Speaker 3: Everyone's getting a little tired, and then you came out
Speaker 3: and it was like you were like, I'm here.
Speaker 1: To play guys, don't forget this is my show.
Speaker 3: Sit down, shut up, and listen. I'm the pachelorette and
Speaker 3: I have some stuff to say.
Speaker 11: Listen. It's been weighing on me.
Speaker 12: I mean, watching things back, you get such a fuller
Speaker 12: perspective of everything that's going on. I didn't see the
Speaker 12: way he was interacting with the guys, and also watching
Speaker 12: our interactions together, You're being able to pinpoint exactly why
Speaker 12: something wasn't right. That was really really insightful for me,
Speaker 12: and so I think I doubted myself kind of a
Speaker 12: little bit throughout the journey with him, but then finally
Speaker 12: being able to have an endpoint conclusion as to what
Speaker 12: was that went wrong.
Speaker 11: I was excited to tell him about that.
Speaker 12: And also, you know, I think that the biggest takeaway
Speaker 12: I want him to take is to take a step
Speaker 12: back and learn from this, like this isn't something that
Speaker 12: you can just push to the side, because I truly
Speaker 12: do want the boss for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you've answered a lot of people's
Speaker 3: questions tonight, because I'm sure viewers are going to be
Speaker 3: watching and listening to this podcast having seen what his
Speaker 3: family and have been putting out about. So they've been
Speaker 3: basically saying that the show is not reflecting who Sam
Speaker 3: is and what actually happened. So I think it's great
Speaker 3: that you came out and addressed that because obviously you
Speaker 3: were there, so you are kind of one of the
Speaker 3: few people that can speak to how it actually was.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, I lived it and and that's exactly guys.
Speaker 12: I was so disappointed to seeing him blame things on
Speaker 12: an edit when I was like, no, no, no, I
Speaker 12: lived every single moment with you there, and that's exactly
Speaker 12: how our conversations play up. That's exactly how you feel
Speaker 12: in that moment. And so yeah, I wasn't gonna let
Speaker 12: him have the last word on that.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: What how about seeing some of the other guys like Jonathan.
Speaker 5: Great it was.
Speaker 12: It was so good to see a lot of the guys,
Speaker 12: especially Jonathan, and he had such a a heart felt goodbye.
Speaker 12: But he's such such a genuinely great guy, and so
Speaker 12: it was good to be able to see him again
Speaker 12: and kind of cultivate that friendshipping.
Speaker 11: At the end of the day. We've been through this
Speaker 11: burny together and he's such a wonderful person and I'm
Speaker 11: so excited to see him thrive in paradise.
Speaker 3: I know that's gonna be really great. What were you
Speaker 3: most nervous for tonight? And then what were you most
Speaker 3: excited about most nervous?
Speaker 11: I don't know if I was necessarily super nervous about anything.
Speaker 12: You know, these guys, I've been through a whole duram
Speaker 12: with them, so I knew what to expect with them,
Speaker 12: and I was like to see them. I was probably
Speaker 12: most excited to just see them all again. This journey
Speaker 12: to me holds such a special place in my heart.
Speaker 12: It's such a unique experience one sense well to experience.
Speaker 12: It was such a great critic guys. You know, it's
Speaker 12: it's nice to I'm all back together.
Speaker 11: It's like a sorority.
Speaker 1: Hello, are you glad it's over?
Speaker 11: You know there's ups and downs, and I think I
Speaker 11: don't know.
Speaker 12: I don't know if it's I'm glad it's over. I
Speaker 12: wouldn't say that, I would say I'm I'm happy it happened.
Speaker 1: Do you have any I don't want to say, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say regrets, but because most people always
Speaker 1: say the answer like, I don't have any regrets. But
Speaker 1: is there anything that that you did that you kind
Speaker 1: of look back around like, oh, I wish I changed
Speaker 1: this or anything that you would switch out.
Speaker 12: I mean, I learned so much and I've grown so
Speaker 12: much since the beginning of the journey that yeah, I
Speaker 12: mean there are times where I definitely felt like I
Speaker 12: should have stood up for myself a little bit more.
Speaker 12: For example, I'm sky Tower. I wish that the conversation
Speaker 12: between Sam and I really I wish I had put
Speaker 12: my foot down more.
Speaker 1: And then like, no, I hated that Skytower. I hate
Speaker 1: it watching it. That gave me so much anxiety of
Speaker 1: just being on top of that building.
Speaker 11: I hate that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, not only are you like on the tallest.
Speaker 1: Built like heights I don't.
Speaker 3: Like, but like you're in an argument, like you're you're
Speaker 3: feeling like so isolated and alone and all this tension
Speaker 3: and you're like I'm gonna fall off this building.
Speaker 11: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 12: So in that moment, I wish I had just stood
Speaker 12: up for myself a little bit more. And then like, no,
Speaker 12: you need to act right, Like this is not okay
Speaker 12: for you.
Speaker 6: The act right.
Speaker 11: You know, you grow and you learn and and and
Speaker 11: that's okay. At least I'm learning from it.
Speaker 1: Last thing? Do you want to ask? Because you went
Speaker 1: pretty far in your season and he just got announced
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, how do you feel about Grant?
Speaker 11: I'm so excited for him, truly.
Speaker 12: I think he is the perfect picked No one deserves
Speaker 12: it more like he from the beginning opened his heart
Speaker 12: up so quickly till the journey that I think things
Speaker 12: introduced so well on his own journaling well, because as
Speaker 12: a lead, that's so important to be able to be open.
Speaker 12: And he's so sincere and so genuine and all so
Speaker 12: hard and he's just overall like so kind hearted and
Speaker 12: such a great guy.
Speaker 11: And so I'm truly rooting for him, and I'm so
Speaker 11: excited to watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's I think he's gonna be great.
Speaker 1: I think I think Sam n would have been the
Speaker 1: right choice. If you Joe loves Sam, you wanted real TV,
Speaker 1: you you choose the love virgin.
Speaker 2: He's not ave anymore.
Speaker 1: Jonathan, Welcome to the podcast. I'm just gonna throw it
Speaker 1: out there right away. You go by, Jonathan. Everyone's calling
Speaker 1: Jonathan to go home in your whole family is honey, John,
Speaker 1: what's up?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was?
Speaker 6: I guess when you're saying it a lot more frequently
Speaker 6: it's easier. But I go by Jonathan when I was
Speaker 6: at when I was in high school. I work in
Speaker 6: a restaurant and I have these group of older women
Speaker 6: come up to me and they're like, oh, like, what's
Speaker 6: your name, Like you're so cute, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 6: thank you, it's john and then they're like short for anything.
Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, it's short, but Jonathan, and they go, yeah,
Speaker 6: you need to go by that for the rest of
Speaker 6: your life.
Speaker 5: That is a much sexier name. And from that point on, yep,
Speaker 5: I'm locked in on Jonathan.
Speaker 1: Now, wow, that's a great story. That's a way better
Speaker 1: story than I expected. How old are you?
Speaker 5: Thank you? How old was I?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Eighteen?
Speaker 1: Wow, that's solid salam And you.
Speaker 2: Know what, I bet you those women watch The Bachelor
Speaker 2: and they're like, he did it, He's still Jonathan.
Speaker 5: If they remember that, they would probably freak out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'm Joe, but like my family calls
Speaker 1: me Joey, but I would never introduce myself Joey.
Speaker 2: Or Joseph or Joe Joseph would be your full name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm never no one.
Speaker 3: Well, Joseph and Jonathan are giving different energy, really, Jonathan, Jonathan, Okay,
Speaker 3: let's talk about it anyway.
Speaker 5: Let's have a Yeah, I have to say, I mean,
Speaker 5: we can go on depth about whatever we want.
Speaker 3: We'll get into it another time, but I have to say,
Speaker 3: you ranked Jen's top three looks tonight so impressed.
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more? You nailed it?
Speaker 5: Do you guys remember these outfits I'm talking about too?
Speaker 3: Yep, the purple retro fit, sparkly dress and then the
Speaker 3: little mini white one with the silver fringe.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: All right, so tonight there was a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of man drama, as we expected. It's the then Pella.
Speaker 1: I guess what were were? I mean, the biggest thing
Speaker 1: is probably Aaron and Samon. I feel like most of
Speaker 1: the guys were going at them. What are your takes on?
Speaker 1: Let's go Aaron first and then some Salmon.
Speaker 6: Honestly, my answer is going to be pretty similar for
Speaker 6: both of them. You know, I think a lot of
Speaker 6: people land in this like world of not knowing how
Speaker 6: to explain their feelings in the correct way, and they
Speaker 6: keep talking about opinions. This is my opinion, This is
Speaker 6: that opinion, and people are getting offended by it, and
Speaker 6: it's like it's an opinion. Everybody's out one. Some of
Speaker 6: them suck, Like get over it. Yeah, So for them,
Speaker 6: you know that they had some opinions and some of
Speaker 6: them sucked, and you just got to sit there and
Speaker 6: just live in that world. But as far as what
Speaker 6: they tried to say to make up for it, you know,
Speaker 6: watching Sam sit up there and just speak his truth
Speaker 6: and actually be able to like articulate his feelings for once,
Speaker 6: it was incredible to see. So we just watched this
Speaker 6: man malfunction pretty much on and then on a one
Speaker 6: on one, not knowing what to say or finding the
Speaker 6: right words. The fact that he came out there spoke
Speaker 6: so well, was able to explain himself in that way.
Speaker 6: You know, he was trying, you know, and I'll never
Speaker 6: fall to try, and he did incredible of that, So
Speaker 6: I agree.
Speaker 1: And then and then Jen came out and fucking.
Speaker 5: I was like, let letter going in on everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I she was prep she was ready to go out.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, way back of my faces. I'm just
Speaker 5: like the whole time, there was a lot.
Speaker 3: Of shocking things. It was a good one, I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, there was a lot of droping tonight. But
Speaker 3: the main event for you was, you know, revealing to
Speaker 3: the audience that you got sent home after Fantasy Suites.
Speaker 3: How was that just finally having that information out there.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it is a little bit of a relief.
Speaker 3: But watching it back, what were those those emotions.
Speaker 5: Really tough? Honestly, you know, I think the biggest takeaway
Speaker 5: was when I was sitting in.
Speaker 6: The car, I was like, you know, I'm tired of
Speaker 6: being my own biggest enemy, standing my own way and
Speaker 6: made a mistake again, you know, by not letting.
Speaker 5: Myself fully feel for the person that was in front
Speaker 5: of me. So watching the back was tough.
Speaker 6: You know, those emotions were super real, and I think
Speaker 6: I've watched it now three times since it's plaid.
Speaker 5: Every time, I like get choked up a little bit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, standing in my own way and not allowing myself
Speaker 6: to validate my own feelings, feel how I want to feel.
Speaker 5: Like if I love somebody, need to let them know.
Speaker 5: I need to let myself know and just go for it.
Speaker 6: So that was the biggest takeaway, And honestly, it was
Speaker 6: just I don't know, I loved every moment of it,
Speaker 6: but it was definitely definitely an emotional Yeah.
Speaker 1: So after watching that and kind of like, I don't
Speaker 1: know pinpointing what your issues are going into you you
Speaker 1: get a ticket to Paradise. You're the first one. How
Speaker 1: are you gonna approach Paradise?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think for the biggest part of
Speaker 6: it for me, and I don't know how the show
Speaker 6: I want to see. Before I went on the Bachelrette,
Speaker 6: I only watched Joey's season. I'd never seen The Bachelor Bacheorette,
Speaker 6: so I've never seen Paradise either, So I don't really
Speaker 6: have much of a strategy going into it.
Speaker 1: But I will say it's just like it's basically like
Speaker 1: if you went to a pool party in Mexico with
Speaker 1: like six of your friends and then a few other
Speaker 1: guys that you don't really know but you know of,
Speaker 1: and then there's a there's a like seven or eight
Speaker 1: girls that you've.
Speaker 2: Heard of, and everyone's good looking and singing, And.
Speaker 13: Everyone's good looking and singing, there's also okay, Yeah, I
Speaker 13: think the biggest thing that I would do is take
Speaker 13: away what I just took away from this last season's
Speaker 13: beast rat and I feel something, feel it, you know,
Speaker 13: let us run with it.
Speaker 6: If I like somebody, I can let them know, hey,
Speaker 6: I think we have something here, or if I if
Speaker 6: I have loved with somebody honestly, like I'm I'm not
Speaker 6: afraid to say it, and I'd rather just let you
Speaker 6: know now. I'd rather shoot big and win big then
Speaker 6: not shoot at all and see you appen. So my
Speaker 6: only strategy is holding myself accountable to those feelings.
Speaker 14: Can I give you some advice as a as a love,
Speaker 14: it moves quick, quicker than quicker than you think.
Speaker 1: So if you do feel something, lean into it and
Speaker 1: lean into it right away. Don't sit back because things
Speaker 1: happen faster than you realize.
Speaker 2: I've never heard you give that advice before I get
Speaker 2: to ask you.
Speaker 1: It's good advice, don't you think? Yeah?
Speaker 2: It is the advice.
Speaker 5: Do I get to ask a question too, Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, go for it.
Speaker 6: If I feel it with somebody quickly, should I just
Speaker 6: run with that since we're working with limited time, or
Speaker 6: do I still kind of weigh out the other options?
Speaker 1: That's exactly you just answered. You just answered you run
Speaker 1: with what you feel because all the people that go
Speaker 1: to paradise and like, oh but no, I'm gonna weigh
Speaker 1: my options are gonna sit around, they're going to weigh
Speaker 1: their options, they're going to fuck it up, nothing's going
Speaker 1: to happen, and they usually let a good thing go
Speaker 1: to way.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, there's a window of time in the
Speaker 3: beginning where it's appropriate to explore. Even if feeling it
Speaker 3: with someone, they're probably exploring. But I think the best
Speaker 3: thing is to know when to shut the door and
Speaker 3: know you have a good thing and be like, I'm
Speaker 3: putting all my eggs in this basket and if it
Speaker 3: doesn't work, it's okay, but at least I.
Speaker 2: Know I really went for something real. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 2: our advice. But I have one more question for you.
Speaker 3: I feel like watching your exit interview in the car,
Speaker 3: you were very vulnerable and you really talked about kind
Speaker 3: of what you feel like you should have done differently,
Speaker 3: And I think that's amazing. I think there's so much
Speaker 3: to be learned about ourselves going on a show like this.
Speaker 3: But I will say I feel like you were hard
Speaker 3: on yourself, and do you feel like watching it back
Speaker 3: you have more clarity because I feel like you and
Speaker 3: crust me if I'm wrong. I'm not trying to put
Speaker 3: words your helt, but I feel like you took a
Speaker 3: lot of the blame for the relationship not working out.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like watching it back, there was a
Speaker 3: sense of clarity of maybe where her other relationships.
Speaker 6: Were at one hundred percent. I've actually been saying that
Speaker 6: to today. Is people asked about closure. Watching the Final
Speaker 6: three me a lot of closure on.
Speaker 5: What we had.
Speaker 6: You know, she has pronounced her love that she has
Speaker 6: for Marcus. She's in love with Marcus, and Devin is
Speaker 6: in love with her, you know, and we're sitting in
Speaker 6: this beautiful middle route where we get along. Everything's great
Speaker 6: and it feels so amazing to spend time together, but
Speaker 6: it's like expact, it's something that's not clicking.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: That's the movie has passed friendly love and we have
Speaker 6: so much fun to this is my forever, you know.
Speaker 6: We just never got to that point. So that hardness
Speaker 6: I had on myself. I didn't know the depth of
Speaker 6: what she was beating to with these other two guys,
Speaker 6: you know, So seeing that she was able to get
Speaker 6: there and get there quicker with them, I'm like, you
Speaker 6: know what, it wasn't anything outside of what we could
Speaker 6: have done.
Speaker 11: It was just it wasn't there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good question. And honestly, I
Speaker 1: hate when people are too high on themselves for like,
Speaker 1: especially at the end, because there's so many different factors
Speaker 1: and it's like whatever, and you'll figure it out, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like you're gonna like, like Jonathan, You're going
Speaker 1: to be fine, Like you're gonna go on paradise, You're
Speaker 1: gonna do really well and you're gonna end up getting
Speaker 1: engaged and you're happily. Ever, Jod just manifested, I actually,
Speaker 1: I actually think I think it's gonna work out for you.
Speaker 1: R I have I have sincere hope.
Speaker 5: I hope, So I hope.
Speaker 6: I'm sitting here across Tom you guys with somebody next
Speaker 6: to me that you guys are like, yeah, we knew it, it.
Speaker 1: Works, or you're gonna completely funk it up, but either way,
Speaker 1: and then.
Speaker 6: I'm sitting here and I'm like, dude, advice, broyow me
Speaker 6: back either way.
Speaker 1: Jonathan, thank you so much for taking the time. We
Speaker 1: really appreciate it, and this won't be the last time
Speaker 1: we'll be seeing you, so good luck with everything.
Speaker 2: Thanks Jonathan.
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Speaker 9: Bye,