WEBVTT - The Jenn-tlemen Tell All! 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:03.960 Hey all, welcome back to beat Your Happy Hour. 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:05.880 I'm Joe and I'm Serena and we are. 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:10.520 Back with the Mentel all roundtable from. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:13.039 Hard our speed dating interview style episode. 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:14.920 There you go. I like that. That was good. Thank you, 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:19.640 And our first guest today is Spencer. Spencer, welcome to 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:21.119 Batcher Happy Hour. How are you? 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:25.280 I'm doing better now? Fantastic to see all your glowing. 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:26.799 Oh thank you? 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:27.600 I love that. 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.920 How was How was tonight? How was being back seeing 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:33.560 all the guys for the first time in a while. 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:38.000 I'm assuming it's crazy because you go into this experience 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.239 and it's this whirlwind and then you just go back 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:43.440 to real life and then it's like, okay, I guess 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:45.880 I'm just back to my day to day and then 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:49.199 it airs things change and we come back here and 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.320 we have an opportunity to kind of like relive it again. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.440 So it was back into the frying band quickly. 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:56.720 Where do you? Where do you live? 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:58.600 Dallas? Dallas? 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.400 Sexis any and the guys from your season live close 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:01.600 to you? 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:02.040 Or now? 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.480 We have a couple of Houston guys. We have actually 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.319 Grand Devin both in Houston. Outside of that, I think 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:08.600 we're the only Texas guys. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.399 Okay, okay, did you see either of those guys before 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:13.199 coming back here? 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:17.200 I did not, But I do have a best friend 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:19.760 of mine that was on a few seasons ago that 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.479 I've known since college and got to spend a lot 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:23.080 of time with them. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:24.640 So who is it? 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.319 Yeah, Connor Saley? 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.960 Oh yeah, okay, he was on He was on Hannah 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:31.920 Brown season correct? 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:33.760 I think so correct? Yeah? 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:38.600 Okay, nice, all right, So let's get right into you 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:43.360 get looped into the drama pretty quickly, which neither of 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:44.200 us were expecting. 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.680 No, let's kick it off with Aaron. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.360 I would say, that's the kind of chakra of the 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:55.520 night for you, I'm assuming of Aaron called out, you 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.880 know when he said to Jem before he left, there's 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:59.480 some people here I feel like aren't here for the 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.640 right reason, And he admitted to referring to Devin and 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:04.920 to Sam n who I think, you know, didn't really 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:06.160 surprise anyone. 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:07.120 That's kind of a shot. 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.560 But he did say after watching it back, he felt 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:13.800 like you weren't there for the right reasons either, and 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.320 that you maybe weren't. That's not true, I don't I 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.120 want to be correct here. He said that he didn't 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:21.880 feel like you were ready for the commitment after watching 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.600 the way you spoke about your ex and how uncomfortable 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:25.080 that made you. 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:29.120 Were you expecting him to say this? Did you know 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:30.679 he might have these feelings? 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:35.160 Not at all. First off, I don't know anyone who 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.880 would think that was comfortable subject matter to share on 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.360 national television. I mean, the extent of what I shared. 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.680 The only person that knew that up until that point 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:48.960 was my mother. So sharing that nerve wracking. Yeah, absolutely, 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.680 But I'm four years removed from it and there's no 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:56.440 emotions there anymore. And when you get distance in space 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.600 from something, it allows you to see it with a. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:00.440 Little more clarity. 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.120 And I've had four years of distance and I've seen 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.040 it for what it was. When you're in the middle 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:08.200 of something, it's tough to see things for what they 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.640 actually are. Yeah, but it's shocking to say the least. 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:14.120 I mean, you know, sometimes guys say something to get 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:15.960 air time, and maybe someone wants to be on the beach, 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:16.959 but who knows. 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:19.799 I also think that there's something to be said for 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.800 like having to speak on a topic that you haven't 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.519 probably spoken about in depth from start to finish in 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:30.000 a very long time, and you might just be kind 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.560 of like finding your footing as you're revisiting this time 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.320 in your life that was so long ago. 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:39.240 Absolutely, I actually never spoke about it in its entirety 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:45.120 once people had gotten bits and pieces. It wasn't easy 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:49.040 for me. It was frankly pretty embarrassing. I didn't want 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:53.040 to bring it up to my closest friends and family that, yeah, 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:58.280 my ex fiance two months before the wedding leaves and 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.000 sheets on me and it's not it's not fun, it's 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:06.680 you know, not a fun thing to talk about. So yeah, no, 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:11.240 I wasn't comfortable talking about it. Thank God that Jen's 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:15.120 the woman she is, and she was there and coaxed 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.240 me through. It gave me the time, the space, the 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.400 platform to be able to share something that'd been weighing 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.560 on me and something that I hadn't been able to 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.120 share in its entirety. But for it to come up 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:31.839 or as a reason for me not being ready or 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:37.800 an engagement or ready for marriage is the most ludicrous 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.599 thing that we heard all night tonight. Or it's some 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.280 pretty pretty out there things I would. 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.200 Say, speaking of out there things, I do want to 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:48.159 ask you as well. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.159 Another thing that tied back to you. 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.000 We saw a lot of guys forgiving or at least 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.520 giving Sam m a lot of grace tonight when he 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.920 was in the hot seat, and and you came in 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:04.000 a little bit on the stronger side, asking him, or 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.680 not asking him, but maybe making a statement that you 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:10.240 feel like he used the term competition a lot. Do 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:11.840 you want to kind of expand on what you meant 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.440 there and maybe tell us where you feel you stand 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:14.760 with Sam. 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:15.520 I'm sure right now. 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.599 Yeah, so Sam, along with other men, there were other 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.440 men in the house that use the word competition a lot. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:28.000 And when pertaining to love, I don't think describing what 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.880 we were in the middle of as a competition is accurate. 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.320 I think that you can compete to when a sports game. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:37.440 I think that you can compete to try to get 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.640 a promotion at your job. I don't think you can 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:42.640 compete for love, because at the end of the day, 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.039 it's a two way street. You can want someone to 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.880 love you as much as as much as you want to, 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.080 It doesn't mean they're going to love you. You can't make 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.160 someone love you. You can compete to be able to get 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.800 more time to show them the person you are you 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.640 can compete to be able to relay to them important 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:04.200 facts about yourself that may sway how they feel. But 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.520 at the end of the day, it's not a competition. 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.640 In my eyes, I think a lot of guys get 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.560 pulled into that competition, especially when there's all these other 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.039 handsome guys going for the same woman. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:15.320 You know. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.720 And I also told him that words carry weight, and 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:22.040 I think he knows that, and I think some of 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:27.120 those words were used to try to win as a competition, 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.920 and I think he owned up to that to an 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.680 extent tonight, and that takes I have to credit where 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.760 credits to because getting up there, knowing what he was 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:42.039 walking into that couldn't have been easy. But no, I 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:46.839 think he, along with everyone else, deserve deserves to be 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:50.080 held accountable for their actions and what they say. 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:56.400 And you implied Aaron maybe wanting a ticket to Paradise. 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.520 If they asked you to go to Paradise, would you 0:06:58.560 --> 0:06:58.800 do it? 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.960 I the last bucket in my life that I want 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.240 to fill as a relationship, and Paradise has worked for 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:12.480 a lot of people. I'm single, and the opportunity comes around, 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:14.600 I'm not opposed to meeting my person on the beach. 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:19.640 It's obviously worked out for some people, you know, So yeah, 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.480 I would absolutely be open to it for sure. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.680 And what would you do? How would you be with 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.760 Aaron if he was there? Are you guys on bad 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:32.840 terms at this point now? Or did you hash it 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.160 out a little bit? After hash it out a little bit? 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:38.880 We're also very different people. I think if someone's look 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:40.240 for that, they're not looking for me. 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:41.800 And I'm okay with. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.240 The great, great, amazing. 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.680 Well, thank you thanks for taking the time. Yeah, thank 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:48.200 you so much. 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:49.600 Enjoy your night. 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:51.320 Thank you. I appreciate y'all. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:52.800 Enjoy your nine too. 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:57.880 All right. Our second guest stop is a guy we 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:02.960 just had on this podcast, but he's bad because Beck Jeremy, 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:04.560 welcome back. 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.160 I would like an introduction like UFC when he just 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:09.760 like yells it up the. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:10.000 Top of. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.080 Jeremy. How was it seeing everyone tonight? 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:17.320 Yeah, it's cool. 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.960 I mean, you guys have been through similar experiences like 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:21.960 I become like brothers with some of these guys. 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:23.679 So it's great to see everyone. 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:28.080 It's been months, obviously a long day, but it's we're 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:29.960 all in good spirits and the happy to see each 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.040 other and happy to see Jen again. And happy to 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.000 watch back some footage and yell at each other. 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:35.160 Yeah, we're all. We're all good. 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.439 The best part of the tell Alls, at least when 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.600 you're there filming me as a contestant, is the end. 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.280 There's such a feeling of relief afterwards. 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:43.800 Yeah. 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.439 I feel it's weird because I guess like you take 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.520 a little break, but you always know that tell all 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:49.520 is going to happen and out. 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:59.680 Yeah, yeah for now. Jen Jen, the woman that you 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.280 most kind of gage too. How is it seeing her today? 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.720 I always smile around her. She's always wanted to be around, 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:09.720 So we're all good. She seems happy, which is important. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:11.920 So yeah, it was good to see her. It was 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:13.440 going to catch up very very quickly. 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.600 Jay Bear. Did she give you that nickname at Yeah? No, 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:18.360 it jair Bear. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.240 She came to me in like second week. Yeah, it 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.960 was pretty early, so jere Bear. I think it's cute. 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:26.800 It is cute. I like it. 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:31.679 We did see you jump in though, and somewhat call 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:38.679 out Sam m for being there for Daisy or Maria. 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:40.640 That was Do you want to expand on that? 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.720 Yeah, So I was not part of that date at 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:45.120 the time. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.640 I was rooming with Devin. So he came back and 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:49.800 like I start, I heard about what happened. I knew 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:51.840 it was going to be bad, so I was already 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:53.880 interested to see what was. 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.080 Going to happen. I didn't know that happens. 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.080 And I hear him like say it on TV, and 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.480 I I like, by John dropped, I'll know about you guys, 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.120 But I was wild our. 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:04.480 Jaw draft as well. 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:09.040 Because I mean, he he defended himself and it made 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.800 sense until he said but then he was like, but 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:15.640 then I was happy was Jen. But then you said, well, 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.400 you didn't know it was Jen because you had already laughed. Yeah, 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.400 And then I was confused, and I kind of. 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.960 Ye what he said was like he said it was 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.280 out of context, and he said to his mom like, oh, 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.840 but Maria and Daisy aren't my type. 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:33.040 So but then, like he said himself, he thought it 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:34.840 was going to be one of them, and you don't 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:36.720 find out that and until you're already there. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:37.640 So because he went on. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.839 Thinking it would people so yeah, But in his in 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.000 his defense, I will say, I do think majority of 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.240 people thought it was probably gonna be Daisy or Maria. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.040 Oh no, which he did too. But what he was 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.240 saying like, that's not his type. So I'm like, okay, yeah, 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.480 you go, that's very ah. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:55.240 Yeah. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:56.640 Yeah. 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.560 We also saw you speak up at one point kind 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.440 of in defense of Devin just because he wasn't there tonight. 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.000 What compelled you to do that and is there anything 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:07.960 more that you wish you'd said? 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.280 No, I mean, like I feel like I sort of 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:14.760 spoke with that him quickly on our podcast, But first off, 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:15.400 he's not. 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:16.520 Here to defend himself. 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.120 You shouldn't be like, of course you could talk like 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.079 a little shit, but you can't go in on someone 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.320 whether there's when they can't talk back to you. And 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.720 I was friends with him, and I think like the 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.640 moment that they were talking about was like one of 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.560 the moments where I was like, oh, I respect this guy, 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:32.200 Like he's not. 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:33.440 Just going to take shit from someone. 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.000 I do think it was the right thing for him 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:37.800 to talk to him. If I was in issues, I 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.040 would have talked to her first time. Might also just 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:40.880 get it out of the way. 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:46.120 So yeah, yeah, how do you feel about Grant being 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:47.440 the new Bachelor? 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:50.679 I think it's a great thing. I don't know about you, guys. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:51.760 I think it's an amazing pick. 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.720 Yeah, I roomed with him. 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.320 When I was in New Zealand, so I got to 0:11:56.360 --> 0:12:00.640 know him well. Obviously great looking guy, talented, small or everything, 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.440 but he's also the type of person who you could 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:06.280 just like go it talk to and oh listen and 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:06.680 you can have. 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.920 A good conversation with him. I think. I mean, you 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.240 already know the lines out in the door. So I 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.040 get in the mansion with him, I'm excited. 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.439 I'm excited to see if that's Do you have a question, 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.959 I do have a question. We saw two tickets to Paradise, 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:25.760 which I actually believe is George Clooney. Yeah, Roberts as 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.640 a sign as well, maybe yeah, probably, Well two tickets 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:35.520 have been given outthan Yeah, are you expecting one? And 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.280 if you get one, are you in? 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:38.560 I don't. 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.520 I don't expect anything in the slide. I didn't expect 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:45.400 to be on the Bachelor rat listen. I I take 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.760 it like every day, day by day. 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.920 I don't know what's going to happen. If it presents 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:52.800 itself and I'm single and I'm in like the right 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.360 mind set, Yeah, I'll go and Jonathan, I keep on 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.560 my boys, so it'll be fun when we're not all 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.240 dating with the same exact girl. 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:01.120 I can tell you that it is. 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:02.440 That is fun that part. 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.800 All right, Jeremy, thank you very much. We appreciate it. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:15.840 Coming back on. See you guys, go on bye, okay, 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:20.760 Sam and sam En is back in the hot seat. Sam, 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.920 what's up? How are you you? Honestly, you were for 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.800 the beginning of this, uh the episode, you're the star 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:28.320 of the show. 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.160 I appreciate that a good moments. 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:31.760 I'm kidding. 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.960 Were you expecting to be like kind of one of 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.480 the main focus points at the beginning of this of. 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.640 Course, because there's a lot of unresolved tension between me 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.480 and a group of individuals within the house. So I 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.439 was very happy to actually be put in a position 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.760 where I can actually unresolve all that, like, to be 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:49.800 able to solve that tension. 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:50.320 Yeah. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.480 Yeah, I feel like you got a lot of flock 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.240 for wearing that leather jacket. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.880 But yeah, Dunham slash leather jack. 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.679 We'll find with materials and materials nowadays. Come on, it's 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:04.520 twenty twenty four. 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.720 Was it an easy decision to wear a back out tonight? 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.200 You know, I think it just brings a different order 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.160 out of me, you know, it brings out hot energy. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:14.679 It brings out energy. 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:15.960 You know what I'm saying. It brings a different type 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.640 of side of me. Uh No, honestly, it's just it's iconic. 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:19.960 I want to just kind of just make kind of 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.720 fun of myself, and it's kind of just you know, 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:23.680 have a good good time. 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.840 You seem you honestly, you seem much more relaxed and chill. 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.040 First time we had you have this podcast, you wore 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.680 a little tense at the beginning, So you seem you 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:33.280 seem good. 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.400 I feel like tonight, it's what it's because I. 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.400 Confess my love on it of like a stage, right, 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.160 I'm like, oh god, this is like, you know, it's 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.000 like it doesn't feel good ever, right, I was just 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:45.200 reliving those emotions. 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:50.280 But yeah, yeah, do you feel good about your interaction 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:51.760 with the guys tonight? 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.480 Yeah, of course, you know. I feel like, uh, instead 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:56.640 of building a wall between each other, we. 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:57.320 Built a bridge. 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.920 And it was very it was very healthy. 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:02.240 You know, there was a few like there was kind 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.280 of throwing jobs here and there, but I feel like 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:08.440 we conducted ourselves very professionally and just like helled each other. 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.480 This was the actual first moment on the show where 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:12.480 mutual respect to show. 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:15.760 I thought you handled yourself very well tonight. 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:16.000 I was. 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:20.800 I was really impressed the football game. I was after 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.560 watching the football game with you, I was a little worried, 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.680 but you came dog out, what are you talking about? 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:28.080 Play with you? 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.080 You were fired up, You were fired up, but no, 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.640 honestly like I thought you really. I thought you really 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:39.280 handled yourself well tonight, Like these situations could be just honestly, 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.200 really difficult, and of course sometimes it's not really easy 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.320 expressing how you feel, and I thought you did a 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:44.760 good job. 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:45.680 Yeah. 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.720 I feel like your main point of conflict tonight was 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:51.800 with Aaron when he kind of just rearticulated that he 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.760 was directing his comment about not being ready for a 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:58.520 proposal at you and Devin obviously Devan's out here tonight. 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.600 How did it feel? Kind of I feel like you 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:05.720 assumed that he was talking about you, But yeah, you 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:07.840 just hearing him admit it and kind of going back 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:08.760 and forth with him about that. 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.160 I kind of knew already, right, Devin and I kind 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.400 of just Devin, Brian and a few others. 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:16.320 We kind of rode side by side. 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.440 We two meet each other because we both realized that Hey, 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.880 we're here to find love, pursuit family, and we're all 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.920 at different stages in like this journey, right, and everyone 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:28.440 has the different approaches, And yeah, it was just you know, 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.440 my entire time there I was and phantomized, right, and 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:32.840 that was it was. It was nice to kind of 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.200 like kind of showcase that and kind of like you know, 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.400 say like, hey, like this is what happens when you 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.760 constantly call a man, a kid, a boy, you know, 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.560 and then you just pinpoint on times around like lashing 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:47.080 out right, like no, it's like, you know, I'm I'm 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.200 here to find love. I know I might not be ready, 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.360 but what I do know is I shot every shot 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.160 I had and yeah, like it might have you know, 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.600 not gone the wage I was intending it to. 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.360 But uh, there's no regrets when it comes to like 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:00.960 did I put it all out there? You know? I 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.280 literally put it all out there on the fen, you. 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.679 Know, as Joe saying you, did you put it all 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:07.120 out there? 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.720 What do you feel like now watching back your entire 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.840 journey on the show and just reflecting on this first 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.240 experience with love and relationships, do you feel like you 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.760 learned that you want to take forward now into your 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:18.680 future dating life. 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:19.040 Yeah. 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:20.840 Yeah, a ton of things, right, like don't call it, 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.440 don't call yourself a version, rap the bat, don't don't 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.959 call our wife all that. So it's mainly don't be 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.360 don't overmanticize the process. I think that's the biggest thing 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.320 for me was don't overmanticized process and don't take myself 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:36.160 so serious. Right, I can be a very goofy, funny 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.480 viewde just if I'm into like a serious mode. 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.879 I just it's it's a flip switch, right, the lights 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:41.520 like switches. 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.480 So for me, it's kind of like, you know, learning 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.200 from all my experience, like learning from my What's beautiful 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.880 is that I can see myself, right, so I can 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:51.800 actually kind of grow and learn from this. It's like 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:55.520 actually watching like tape, you know, and also from other guys, 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.040 right seeing how they were interacting all this stuff. It's like, 0:17:58.080 --> 0:17:59.840 in a weird way, like a learning Like it's like 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:04.240 a you know, dating one of work. Yeah, and uh yeah, 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.280 it's basically just taking time to self reflect and growth 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:07.520 and what I've done. 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:11.240 Okay, so we saw that the kind of the three 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.159