1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Hey all, welcome back to beat Your Happy Hour. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena and we are. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Back with the Mentel all roundtable from. 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 3: Hard our speed dating interview style episode. 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: There you go. I like that. That was good. Thank you, 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: And our first guest today is Spencer. Spencer, welcome to 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: Batcher Happy Hour. How are you? 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 4: I'm doing better now? Fantastic to see all your glowing. 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 2: Oh thank you? 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 4: I love that. 11 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: How was How was tonight? How was being back seeing 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: all the guys for the first time in a while. 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 4: I'm assuming it's crazy because you go into this experience 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 4: and it's this whirlwind and then you just go back 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 4: to real life and then it's like, okay, I guess 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 4: I'm just back to my day to day and then 17 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 4: it airs things change and we come back here and 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 4: we have an opportunity to kind of like relive it again. 19 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: So it was back into the frying band quickly. 20 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: Where do you? Where do you live? 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 5: Dallas? Dallas? 22 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: Sexis any and the guys from your season live close 23 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: to you? 24 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 5: Or now? 25 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 4: We have a couple of Houston guys. We have actually 26 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 4: Grand Devin both in Houston. Outside of that, I think 27 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 4: we're the only Texas guys. 28 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, did you see either of those guys before 29 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: coming back here? 30 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 4: I did not, But I do have a best friend 31 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 4: of mine that was on a few seasons ago that 32 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 4: I've known since college and got to spend a lot 33 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 4: of time with them. 34 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: So who is it? 35 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, Connor Saley? 36 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, he was on He was on Hannah 37 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Brown season correct? 38 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 5: I think so correct? Yeah? 39 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: Okay, nice, all right, So let's get right into you 40 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: get looped into the drama pretty quickly, which neither of 41 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: us were expecting. 42 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: No, let's kick it off with Aaron. 43 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: I would say, that's the kind of chakra of the 44 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: night for you, I'm assuming of Aaron called out, you 45 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: know when he said to Jem before he left, there's 46 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: some people here I feel like aren't here for the 47 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: right reason, And he admitted to referring to Devin and 48 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: to Sam n who I think, you know, didn't really 49 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: surprise anyone. 50 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: That's kind of a shot. 51 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: But he did say after watching it back, he felt 52 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: like you weren't there for the right reasons either, and 53 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: that you maybe weren't. That's not true, I don't I 54 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: want to be correct here. He said that he didn't 55 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: feel like you were ready for the commitment after watching 56 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: the way you spoke about your ex and how uncomfortable 57 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: that made you. 58 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: Were you expecting him to say this? Did you know 59 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 2: he might have these feelings? 60 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 4: Not at all. First off, I don't know anyone who 61 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 4: would think that was comfortable subject matter to share on 62 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 4: national television. I mean, the extent of what I shared. 63 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 4: The only person that knew that up until that point 64 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 4: was my mother. So sharing that nerve wracking. Yeah, absolutely, 65 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: But I'm four years removed from it and there's no 66 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: emotions there anymore. And when you get distance in space 67 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: from something, it allows you to see it with a. 68 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 5: Little more clarity. 69 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 4: And I've had four years of distance and I've seen 70 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 4: it for what it was. When you're in the middle 71 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: of something, it's tough to see things for what they 72 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 4: actually are. Yeah, but it's shocking to say the least. 73 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, sometimes guys say something to get 74 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: air time, and maybe someone wants to be on the beach, 75 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 4: but who knows. 76 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 3: I also think that there's something to be said for 77 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: like having to speak on a topic that you haven't 78 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 3: probably spoken about in depth from start to finish in 79 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: a very long time, and you might just be kind 80 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: of like finding your footing as you're revisiting this time 81 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: in your life that was so long ago. 82 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I actually never spoke about it in its entirety 83 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: once people had gotten bits and pieces. It wasn't easy 84 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: for me. It was frankly pretty embarrassing. I didn't want 85 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: to bring it up to my closest friends and family that, yeah, 86 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: my ex fiance two months before the wedding leaves and 87 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 4: sheets on me and it's not it's not fun, it's 88 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 4: you know, not a fun thing to talk about. So yeah, no, 89 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: I wasn't comfortable talking about it. Thank God that Jen's 90 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 4: the woman she is, and she was there and coaxed 91 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: me through. It gave me the time, the space, the 92 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 4: platform to be able to share something that'd been weighing 93 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: on me and something that I hadn't been able to 94 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: share in its entirety. But for it to come up 95 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 4: or as a reason for me not being ready or 96 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 4: an engagement or ready for marriage is the most ludicrous 97 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 4: thing that we heard all night tonight. Or it's some 98 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 4: pretty pretty out there things I would. 99 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: Say, speaking of out there things, I do want to 100 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: ask you as well. 101 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 2: Another thing that tied back to you. 102 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: We saw a lot of guys forgiving or at least 103 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: giving Sam m a lot of grace tonight when he 104 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: was in the hot seat, and and you came in 105 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: a little bit on the stronger side, asking him, or 106 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: not asking him, but maybe making a statement that you 107 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: feel like he used the term competition a lot. Do 108 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: you want to kind of expand on what you meant 109 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: there and maybe tell us where you feel you stand 110 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: with Sam. 111 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure right now. 112 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, so Sam, along with other men, there were other 113 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 4: men in the house that use the word competition a lot. 114 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 4: And when pertaining to love, I don't think describing what 115 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 4: we were in the middle of as a competition is accurate. 116 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: I think that you can compete to when a sports game. 117 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 4: I think that you can compete to try to get 118 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 4: a promotion at your job. I don't think you can 119 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: compete for love, because at the end of the day, 120 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 4: it's a two way street. You can want someone to 121 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 4: love you as much as as much as you want to, 122 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 4: It doesn't mean they're going to love you. You can't make 123 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: someone love you. You can compete to be able to get 124 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 4: more time to show them the person you are you 125 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 4: can compete to be able to relay to them important 126 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: facts about yourself that may sway how they feel. But 127 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it's not a competition. 128 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: In my eyes, I think a lot of guys get 129 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: pulled into that competition, especially when there's all these other 130 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 4: handsome guys going for the same woman. 131 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 5: You know. 132 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 4: And I also told him that words carry weight, and 133 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 4: I think he knows that, and I think some of 134 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 4: those words were used to try to win as a competition, 135 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 4: and I think he owned up to that to an 136 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: extent tonight, and that takes I have to credit where 137 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: credits to because getting up there, knowing what he was 138 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 4: walking into that couldn't have been easy. But no, I 139 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 4: think he, along with everyone else, deserve deserves to be 140 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: held accountable for their actions and what they say. 141 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: And you implied Aaron maybe wanting a ticket to Paradise. 142 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: If they asked you to go to Paradise, would you 143 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: do it? 144 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: I the last bucket in my life that I want 145 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 4: to fill as a relationship, and Paradise has worked for 146 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: a lot of people. I'm single, and the opportunity comes around, 147 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 4: I'm not opposed to meeting my person on the beach. 148 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 4: It's obviously worked out for some people, you know, So yeah, 149 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: I would absolutely be open to it for sure. 150 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: And what would you do? How would you be with 151 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: Aaron if he was there? Are you guys on bad 152 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: terms at this point now? Or did you hash it 153 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: out a little bit? After hash it out a little bit? 154 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: We're also very different people. I think if someone's look 155 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: for that, they're not looking for me. 156 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 5: And I'm okay with. 157 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: The great, great, amazing. 158 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 5: Well, thank you thanks for taking the time. Yeah, thank 159 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 5: you so much. 160 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: Enjoy your night. 161 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 5: Thank you. I appreciate y'all. 162 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 4: Enjoy your nine too. 163 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: All right. Our second guest stop is a guy we 164 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: just had on this podcast, but he's bad because Beck Jeremy, 165 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: welcome back. 166 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 6: I would like an introduction like UFC when he just 167 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 6: like yells it up the. 168 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 5: Top of. 169 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: Jeremy. How was it seeing everyone tonight? 170 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's cool. 171 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 6: I mean, you guys have been through similar experiences like 172 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 6: I become like brothers with some of these guys. 173 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 5: So it's great to see everyone. 174 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 6: It's been months, obviously a long day, but it's we're 175 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 6: all in good spirits and the happy to see each 176 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 6: other and happy to see Jen again. And happy to 177 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 6: watch back some footage and yell at each other. 178 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're all. We're all good. 179 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 3: The best part of the tell Alls, at least when 180 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: you're there filming me as a contestant, is the end. 181 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: There's such a feeling of relief afterwards. 182 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 7: Yeah. 183 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 6: I feel it's weird because I guess like you take 184 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 6: a little break, but you always know that tell all 185 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 6: is going to happen and out. 186 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah for now. Jen Jen, the woman that you 187 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 8: most kind of gage too. How is it seeing her today? 188 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 6: I always smile around her. She's always wanted to be around, 189 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 6: So we're all good. She seems happy, which is important. 190 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 6: So yeah, it was good to see her. It was 191 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 6: going to catch up very very quickly. 192 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: Jay Bear. Did she give you that nickname at Yeah? No, 193 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: it jair Bear. 194 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 6: She came to me in like second week. Yeah, it 195 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 6: was pretty early, so jere Bear. I think it's cute. 196 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: It is cute. I like it. 197 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 3: We did see you jump in though, and somewhat call 198 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 3: out Sam m for being there for Daisy or Maria. 199 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: That was Do you want to expand on that? 200 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I was not part of that date at 201 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 5: the time. 202 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 6: I was rooming with Devin. So he came back and 203 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 6: like I start, I heard about what happened. I knew 204 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 6: it was going to be bad, so I was already 205 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 6: interested to see what was. 206 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 5: Going to happen. I didn't know that happens. 207 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 6: And I hear him like say it on TV, and 208 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 6: I I like, by John dropped, I'll know about you guys, 209 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 6: But I was wild our. 210 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: Jaw draft as well. 211 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: Because I mean, he he defended himself and it made 212 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: sense until he said but then he was like, but 213 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: then I was happy was Jen. But then you said, well, 214 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: you didn't know it was Jen because you had already laughed. Yeah, 215 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: And then I was confused, and I kind of. 216 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 5: Ye what he said was like he said it was 217 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 5: out of context, and he said to his mom like, oh, 218 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 5: but Maria and Daisy aren't my type. 219 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 6: So but then, like he said himself, he thought it 220 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 6: was going to be one of them, and you don't 221 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 6: find out that and until you're already there. 222 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 5: So because he went on. 223 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: Thinking it would people so yeah, But in his in 224 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: his defense, I will say, I do think majority of 225 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: people thought it was probably gonna be Daisy or Maria. 226 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 6: Oh no, which he did too. But what he was 227 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 6: saying like, that's not his type. So I'm like, okay, yeah, 228 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 6: you go, that's very ah. 229 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 230 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 231 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: We also saw you speak up at one point kind 232 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: of in defense of Devin just because he wasn't there tonight. 233 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: What compelled you to do that and is there anything 234 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 3: more that you wish you'd said? 235 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 6: No, I mean, like I feel like I sort of 236 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 6: spoke with that him quickly on our podcast, But first off, 237 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 6: he's not. 238 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 5: Here to defend himself. 239 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 6: You shouldn't be like, of course you could talk like 240 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 6: a little shit, but you can't go in on someone 241 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 6: whether there's when they can't talk back to you. And 242 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 6: I was friends with him, and I think like the 243 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 6: moment that they were talking about was like one of 244 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 6: the moments where I was like, oh, I respect this guy, 245 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 6: Like he's not. 246 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 5: Just going to take shit from someone. 247 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 6: I do think it was the right thing for him 248 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 6: to talk to him. If I was in issues, I 249 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 6: would have talked to her first time. Might also just 250 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 6: get it out of the way. 251 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, how do you feel about Grant being 252 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: the new Bachelor? 253 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 5: I think it's a great thing. I don't know about you, guys. 254 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 5: I think it's an amazing pick. 255 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I roomed with him. 256 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 6: When I was in New Zealand, so I got to 257 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 6: know him well. Obviously great looking guy, talented, small or everything, 258 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 6: but he's also the type of person who you could 259 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 6: just like go it talk to and oh listen and 260 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 6: you can have. 261 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 5: A good conversation with him. I think. I mean, you 262 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 5: already know the lines out in the door. So I 263 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 5: get in the mansion with him, I'm excited. 264 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see if that's Do you have a question, 265 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: I do have a question. We saw two tickets to Paradise, 266 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: which I actually believe is George Clooney. Yeah, Roberts as 267 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: a sign as well, maybe yeah, probably, Well two tickets 268 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: have been given outthan Yeah, are you expecting one? And 269 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: if you get one, are you in? 270 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 5: I don't. 271 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 6: I don't expect anything in the slide. I didn't expect 272 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 6: to be on the Bachelor rat listen. I I take 273 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 6: it like every day, day by day. 274 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 5: I don't know what's going to happen. If it presents 275 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 5: itself and I'm single and I'm in like the right 276 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 5: mind set, Yeah, I'll go and Jonathan, I keep on 277 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 5: my boys, so it'll be fun when we're not all 278 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 5: dating with the same exact girl. 279 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: I can tell you that it is. 280 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: That is fun that part. 281 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: All right, Jeremy, thank you very much. We appreciate it. 282 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: Coming back on. See you guys, go on bye, okay, 283 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: Sam and sam En is back in the hot seat. Sam, 284 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: what's up? How are you you? Honestly, you were for 285 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: the beginning of this, uh the episode, you're the star 286 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: of the show. 287 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 5: I appreciate that a good moments. 288 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 7: I'm kidding. 289 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: Were you expecting to be like kind of one of 290 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: the main focus points at the beginning of this of. 291 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 9: Course, because there's a lot of unresolved tension between me 292 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 9: and a group of individuals within the house. So I 293 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 9: was very happy to actually be put in a position 294 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 9: where I can actually unresolve all that, like, to be 295 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 9: able to solve that tension. 296 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 7: Yeah. 297 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like you got a lot of flock 298 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: for wearing that leather jacket. 299 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, Dunham slash leather jack. 300 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 9: We'll find with materials and materials nowadays. Come on, it's 301 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 9: twenty twenty four. 302 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: Was it an easy decision to wear a back out tonight? 303 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 9: You know, I think it just brings a different order 304 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 9: out of me, you know, it brings out hot energy. 305 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 2: It brings out energy. 306 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying. It brings a different type 307 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 9: of side of me. Uh No, honestly, it's just it's iconic. 308 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 9: I want to just kind of just make kind of 309 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 9: fun of myself, and it's kind of just you know, 310 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 9: have a good good time. 311 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: You seem you honestly, you seem much more relaxed and chill. 312 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: First time we had you have this podcast, you wore 313 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: a little tense at the beginning, So you seem you 314 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: seem good. 315 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: I feel like tonight, it's what it's because I. 316 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 9: Confess my love on it of like a stage, right, 317 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 9: I'm like, oh god, this is like, you know, it's 318 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 9: like it doesn't feel good ever, right, I was just 319 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 9: reliving those emotions. 320 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, do you feel good about your interaction 321 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: with the guys tonight? 322 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, of course, you know. I feel like, uh, instead 323 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 9: of building a wall between each other, we. 324 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 5: Built a bridge. 325 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: And it was very it was very healthy. 326 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 9: You know, there was a few like there was kind 327 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 9: of throwing jobs here and there, but I feel like 328 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 9: we conducted ourselves very professionally and just like helled each other. 329 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 9: This was the actual first moment on the show where 330 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 9: mutual respect to show. 331 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: I thought you handled yourself very well tonight. 332 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 7: I was. 333 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: I was really impressed the football game. I was after 334 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: watching the football game with you, I was a little worried, 335 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: but you came dog out, what are you talking about? 336 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 5: Play with you? 337 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: You were fired up, You were fired up, but no, 338 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: honestly like I thought you really. I thought you really 339 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: handled yourself well tonight, Like these situations could be just honestly, 340 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: really difficult, and of course sometimes it's not really easy 341 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: expressing how you feel, and I thought you did a 342 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: good job. 343 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 344 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: I feel like your main point of conflict tonight was 345 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: with Aaron when he kind of just rearticulated that he 346 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: was directing his comment about not being ready for a 347 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: proposal at you and Devin obviously Devan's out here tonight. 348 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: How did it feel? Kind of I feel like you 349 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: assumed that he was talking about you, But yeah, you 350 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: just hearing him admit it and kind of going back 351 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: and forth with him about that. 352 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 9: I kind of knew already, right, Devin and I kind 353 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 9: of just Devin, Brian and a few others. 354 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: We kind of rode side by side. 355 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 9: We two meet each other because we both realized that Hey, 356 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 9: we're here to find love, pursuit family, and we're all 357 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 9: at different stages in like this journey, right, and everyone 358 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 9: has the different approaches, And yeah, it was just you know, 359 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 9: my entire time there I was and phantomized, right, and 360 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 9: that was it was. It was nice to kind of 361 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 9: like kind of showcase that and kind of like you know, 362 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 9: say like, hey, like this is what happens when you 363 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 9: constantly call a man, a kid, a boy, you know, 364 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 9: and then you just pinpoint on times around like lashing 365 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 9: out right, like no, it's like, you know, I'm I'm 366 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 9: here to find love. I know I might not be ready, 367 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 9: but what I do know is I shot every shot 368 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 9: I had and yeah, like it might have you know, 369 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 9: not gone the wage I was intending it to. 370 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: But uh, there's no regrets when it comes to like 371 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: did I put it all out there? You know? I 372 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: literally put it all out there on the fen, you. 373 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: Know, as Joe saying you, did you put it all 374 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: out there? 375 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 3: What do you feel like now watching back your entire 376 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: journey on the show and just reflecting on this first 377 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: experience with love and relationships, do you feel like you 378 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: learned that you want to take forward now into your 379 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 3: future dating life. 380 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 381 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, a ton of things, right, like don't call it, 382 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 9: don't call yourself a version, rap the bat, don't don't 383 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 9: call our wife all that. So it's mainly don't be 384 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 9: don't overmanticize the process. I think that's the biggest thing 385 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 9: for me was don't overmanticized process and don't take myself 386 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 9: so serious. Right, I can be a very goofy, funny 387 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 9: viewde just if I'm into like a serious mode. 388 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: I just it's it's a flip switch, right, the lights 389 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: like switches. 390 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 9: So for me, it's kind of like, you know, learning 391 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 9: from all my experience, like learning from my What's beautiful 392 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 9: is that I can see myself, right, so I can 393 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 9: actually kind of grow and learn from this. It's like 394 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 9: actually watching like tape, you know, and also from other guys, 395 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 9: right seeing how they were interacting all this stuff. It's like, 396 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 9: in a weird way, like a learning Like it's like 397 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 9: a you know, dating one of work. Yeah, and uh yeah, 398 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 9: it's basically just taking time to self reflect and growth 399 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 9: and what I've done. 400 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: Okay, so we saw that the kind of the three 401 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 3: people that you were up against tonight and throughout the 402 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: season were Aaron Sam, m and Thomas, and it didn't 403 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: really seem like any of them offered you any sort 404 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: of apology tonight. I know that you said that, you know, 405 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 3: you offered an apology and you weren't expecting or asking 406 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: for one from anyone else. But was there anything that 407 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 3: you were hoping maybe went down tonight that didn't. 408 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, of course, Like first, like there's a there's a 409 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 9: few other things, but like I, I never placed a trophy. 410 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: That's that was a fallacy. 411 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 9: But besides that is Yeah, I was really hoping for 412 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 9: that they would take some short accountability by the end 413 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 9: of the day to each his own. And I'm happy 414 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 9: that we're all kind of friends now. But yeah, no, 415 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 9: you know it was. 416 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: It was. It is what it is. It can't change that. Yeah, 417 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: I won't demand it, Sam, Sam, thank you so much 418 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: for coming back on and taking easy in year flag 419 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: football leagues, because. 420 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 9: You do you want me on your team, Joe, Come on, 421 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 9: if I was, if I was taking teams, I would 422 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 9: pick you. 423 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 5: Yo. 424 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: Finish the sentence. What is the best offense? 425 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: A good defense? 426 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: Exactly? 427 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 9: The best defense there was John mitch x pro Seahawks 428 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 9: on right week, I'm left wing love brget Sam, whose 429 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 9: lane they run every time? 430 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 7: They ran my lane? 431 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: Every look t they ran my lane every time, and 432 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: I stopped them. I stopped every point. We'll leave it 433 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: at that. 434 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: Dam you shine of flight football, and you shine tonight. Congratulations. 435 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 5: Hey grocery store Joe, what's up? 436 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 7: Hi? 437 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: Are you? 438 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 10: I hope you don't think I was actually coming at you, 439 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 10: because I actually I arg you guys so much. So 440 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 10: I'm so sorry because I did. It's like, because you 441 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 10: said I've clapping with one hand. That's not a talent. 442 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 5: So I'm like, damn, girl, like you could show me 443 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 5: no long. 444 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 6: No like what look this is a talent. 445 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 10: That oh my god, reply no because I actually tagged 446 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 10: you and Joe's like, I'm so sorry. 447 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 7: I didn't mean no like. 448 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: Harm Oh wait, I feel like I showed you that. 449 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: I was like, this is so funny. 450 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just. 451 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 3: I swear no no no, no, no hate, no hate. 452 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: That's so sorry. 453 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 5: That was on me. That was she was talking Jose 454 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 5: Chicago hometown hero. We love Joe, We love Joe. 455 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 2: No, that's very funny that you posted that. 456 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 3: I love it when you guys interact with stuff that 457 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: we're saying on the podcast. 458 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: Can your you live it? Do you still live in Chamber? 459 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 5: Yes? I do so. 460 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: I feel like you're a Woodfield mall guy. 461 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I do you miss it at all? Man, 462 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 5: you needn't come back. 463 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 10: And I mean there's a lot of new Stoffman. They 464 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 10: got an export builts over here. You got a lot 465 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 10: of good restaurants. You guys come through. I'll show you 466 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 10: guys a good time in Schomberg. Joey Telligence. 467 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 11: Where Schomberg, Schomberg is. 468 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: It's it's like a it's a Chicago suburb. It's it's 469 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: probably so. I'm from Melrose Park. It's probably like one. 470 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: It's like twenty five minutes from my house. 471 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 5: Oh shit, Joey from Melos Parks Park. 472 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, sage boy, I'm from Malros But you guys have 473 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: Johnny's beef. You guys got a Giants beat somewhere close 474 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: over there. One in Arlington Heights, right, yeah. 475 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 5: There is one of Longton Heights. And there's one over Bye. 476 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 5: That's Ols. That's OL's over by us. I went to 477 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 5: U s. 478 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: Okay, nice. Sorry, we probably need this step. We need 479 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: to talk a little more. 480 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 2: Butler, Yeah, the show you're talk about that so. 481 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: Joe, I'm sorry, we are we're going to talk about 482 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: we you know, we got a few minutes here, but 483 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go backwards. I'm gonna go backwards. Actually you 484 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: get a ticket? Well, okay, why the fun would you 485 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: let that tarantula on your lap? 486 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 6: Why? 487 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: I get And you said it too, You said like 488 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: I did it for Yeah, we. 489 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 3: Were with you when because we were like, don't do it, 490 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 3: don't shoot it when and then when you were like, 491 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: I did it last time for Jaen, why would I 492 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: do this? Like what are you going to offer me? 493 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: I was like, damn straight, you better negotiate right now. 494 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 10: With you the whole time, my girl, I appreciate you. 495 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 10: But yeah, I mean they offered me a ticket to periodise. 496 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 10: So I was like, okay, maybe it was definitely well 497 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 10: worth it. 498 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you did the right, you made the right and 499 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: you know what, they got it off you pretty quick. 500 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 3: I thought for sure they're going to have that time. 501 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 5: Oh girl, girl, that was a long time. 502 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 10: No no, no, no, no, that was a long time. 503 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 10: Don't don't that was a long ass time. And the 504 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 10: thing is he got it like moving and wiggling at 505 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 10: the end, and I was like, you better get that ship, 506 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 10: Get that ship, get that ship. 507 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: Again. What if it just like like laid eggs on 508 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: you or something. I have that because that's what I 509 00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: thought I was gonna ask. 510 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: That's my fig hear. Why would you say that. 511 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: That's the most random thing. 512 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 5: Laid eggs. I mean, not even bike being He's just 513 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 5: laid eggs on you. He was just breathing on my 514 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 5: fucking lap. 515 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 2: It was terrifying. You're so rave, you're so ray, So. 516 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: What is your all right? So great? 517 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 9: Though? 518 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: You get the you get a ticket to Paradise. This 519 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: is kind of the first time we've ever seen them 520 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: do this. You're got any strategy or what's your mindset 521 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: going into this now? 522 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 10: I mean, I'm gonna keep it her gluck brother. I 523 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 10: don't think there's any strategy at all. I think she's 524 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 10: got to be yourself. I mean, I'm looking to find 525 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 10: a woman of my dreams to fall in love. So 526 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 10: if I'm not myself, it's not gonna work out, right. 527 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 10: I can't sell her a false reality. I gotta be myself, 528 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 10: not saying that you're looking for anything like juicy anything. 529 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 10: But like, I don't think there's no strategy. I think 530 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 10: I just gotta go in and try my best. I mean, 531 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 10: if she's feeling me and then she feels me and 532 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 10: she doesn't, then. 533 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: But he Okay, are you are you familiar with the 534 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: single women within Bachelor Nations and now I'm hoping to 535 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: see there. 536 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question. 537 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 11: Yeah. 538 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 10: I was just talking about this girl named Olivia Lewis. 539 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 10: She's she's beautiful, I think hourly and also inwardly. I 540 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 10: think she didn't get the love that she deserved when 541 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 10: she was on Paradise. And I promise you if she 542 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 10: does show up, I would give her all the attention 543 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 10: to love that she deserves because she's a queen of 544 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 10: my eyes and I think she has a lot of personality. 545 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 5: I think she can match mine. 546 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: I like that you didn't try away from. 547 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 5: Right now. 548 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: So that you're that's your number one going in. 549 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 5: I think that's where that for you. 550 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 11: Thank you so God. 551 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 5: I love I love Serena, Serena, I love you. 552 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. 553 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 5: No, I rock with you. I rock with you, the 554 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 5: home Tire Hero. 555 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: But I would have called your ass out tonight. I 556 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: would have called your ass out tonight so fast? Would you? 557 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: Who was the guy that you called out, Oh everyone 558 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: you called you call out a lot of people, But 559 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: that was I think it was. It was him with 560 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: the I love you thing with sam M. Yeah, and 561 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: then you said I but and then you're like, and 562 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: I love you. You told him that you love him. 563 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: If I was him, I would have came back at 564 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: you and have been like, expressed to me why, And 565 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: I would think. 566 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 5: I would have been giving you. 567 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: But I don't think you would have had the words. 568 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: I don't think you would have had the words. 569 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 5: No, that's cap, that's cap dog. 570 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: I give you the words, why do you love sam? 571 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: Why do you love sam M? 572 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 10: Sam M is an actual loyal as dude. So what 573 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 10: you guys see is actually who he is. So he 574 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 10: will go to bat for you if he rocks with you. 575 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 10: So he's a person, that is. He may not communicate 576 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 10: himself to the best, but I'm so thankful how genuine 577 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 10: he is. He didn't shy away from being who the 578 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 10: person he is, and that's all you can ask for 579 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 10: a person. 580 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 5: But he is loyal to a fall. That boy is loyal. 581 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 10: So I mean again, like I I got all my 582 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 10: brothers accountable, and that's why I kind of you know, 583 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 10: I mentioned that in the beginning, and he addressed it 584 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 10: and he alled up to his So that's all you can, 585 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 10: you know, ask for in somebody. 586 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, right you there you go. You made me 587 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: my words? 588 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 11: Good? 589 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: Did you know that you were going to go in tonight? 590 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 7: And hello? 591 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 5: All right, I'm on here. 592 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 11: I love you. 593 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: Have a little moment on camera. 594 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 10: I'm sorry, Hey, hometown hero, my boy, grocery store show, Serena, 595 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 10: It's all love. 596 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 5: Now, that's my girl, Serena. I'm your biggest cheerleader from 597 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 5: now on. I'm gonna be posting. You are the best. 598 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 5: I love you, guys. 599 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: Fire, get out of here, Aaron, I don't. I don't 600 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: know if I could interview you. Look at you. You 601 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: sound so much like your brother. 602 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 7: It's wild, but we don't look alike. We just soundedlike, No, 603 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 7: you don't, actually don't. I mean you can tell you 604 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 7: looking I'll ask you. 605 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 5: The questions right now. 606 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,239 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, don't you are? 607 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 7: You are? 608 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 5: Thank you. 609 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: Overall your your You're a better You're a better person. 610 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: Joe's just saying this hoping that NOAEH listens against pissed off. 611 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 7: I was, yeah, I was seeing you up Joeah, whatever 612 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 7: you had to get out there. 613 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 5: This is the tell all yes, all right, let's uh yeah, 614 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 5: let's let's let's get into it. 615 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 2: How are you feeling? 616 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: Because I feel like this was much anticipated for you 617 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 3: after the way you went out, probably for you to 618 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 3: kind of get back out there and share your story. 619 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 7: Yeah. I really wanted to add clarity in context. I 620 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 7: don't know if I succeeded in doing that, but yeah, 621 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 7: it was. It got a little uh hot heavy out there. 622 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 7: I feel like people were as soon as a word 623 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 7: got out of my mouth, everyone was chiming in jumping 624 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 7: on me. So you know, I'm someone pretty thick skin 625 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 7: I do. I was just trying to be honest about 626 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 7: whatever was going on. Whether they liked it or not, 627 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 7: that's you know, that was my decision and that's how 628 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 7: I was feeling. So so I was fun. I enjoyed it. 629 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 7: It was good to kind of see everyone and just 630 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 7: put it all out there and see how the guys 631 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 7: reacted and just you know, has some fun with it. 632 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 3: I want to say, I was surprised because I did 633 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 3: expect that you were going to own up to what 634 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 3: you said and say Devin and Samm or sam n sorry, 635 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: but I wasn't expecting you to throw Spencer into that mix? 636 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 2: What compel that decision? 637 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think in the moment, I was thinking definitely 638 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 7: about Devin and SAMN. That was pretty obvious, And as 639 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 7: I watched kind of the season a little bit, I 640 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 7: just felt Spencer, maybe, you know, having a similar experience 641 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 7: with him through that one on one, maybe he wasn't 642 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 7: as ready as he had thought. So it really was 643 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 7: just an opportunity for him to have a platform, and 644 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 7: I was I just just having a conversation and just 645 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 7: seemed to get way out of hand from what I 646 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 7: was trying to get at. So it wasn't out of 647 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 7: like bad blood or anything like that. It was just 648 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 7: in observation Aaron's opinion that was it. You know, this 649 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 7: is not truth or gospel. 650 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 651 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you're at these things, it's like 652 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: you're giving your opinion, but they're not really letting you talk, 653 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: and then there's like seven guys coming at you. So 654 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: it is you're you're kind of in a position. 655 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 5: That's my whole thought, you know, just like let me 656 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 5: talk and then you can respond. 657 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 7: But yeah, it was very especially from like certain people 658 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 7: that you know, the whole season they didn't say much 659 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 7: at all, and then like at the tell all, it's 660 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 7: like here they are ready to talk about everything. So 661 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 7: it was it was an environment that it was difficult 662 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 7: to to explain things, but I tried my best. 663 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: Spencer mentioned implied, you may be looking for a ticket 664 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: to Paradise. Is that something you are interested in? 665 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,719 Speaker 5: I'm open to it. My life is pretty crazy right now. 666 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 7: I'm I'm focused on myself and like my career and 667 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 7: like everything I have up in front of me, but 668 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 7: my over the thing I want most in life is 669 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 7: to fall in love. So if an opportunity like Paradise 670 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 7: came about and I was able to swing it, of 671 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 7: course I'd be there. I think it's something that you know. 672 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 7: I'm not like itching gotta go to Paradise, but if it, 673 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 7: if the invitation is extended, I would gladly accept and 674 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 7: as long as the schedule works, I'll be there. 675 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 11: Yeah. 676 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: I mean that's pretty much every guy that was on 677 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: that stage. So it's like that everybody wants. Everybody wants 678 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: to Yeah. 679 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think in Paradise. I think I think you 680 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 2: would do well. 681 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 3: I think it would be more cohesive to your personality, 682 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: and I think you would have a good chance of 683 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 3: finding someone there. 684 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 7: I agree with you. 685 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 5: I think I'm someone. 686 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 7: You know, the the Bacheorette is such a it's such 687 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 7: a shotgun type of like you really got you don't 688 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 7: know who's going to come in and interrupt you. It's 689 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 7: so difficult to like I'm someone that I have a lot. 690 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 7: I feel like I have a lot of emotional intelligence. 691 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 7: I need that that connection with someone and to feel 692 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 7: like we're both in this thing. And I feel like 693 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 7: that was something that Jenna and I, you know, kind 694 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 7: of struggled with where I kind of poured myself out 695 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 7: in you know, the final after like the group date 696 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 7: rows or date right before I left, and I just 697 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 7: didn't She didn't really in turn, do the same thing. 698 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 7: So it's really difficult. So I think an environment like paradise, 699 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 7: where you have more time just to like banter and 700 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 7: really get to know each other and it's not so like, 701 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 7: you know, so quick, I would do well at So 702 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 7: we'll see. 703 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you said, obviously the guys were kind of jumping 704 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: on you tonight. There was a lot of people talking. 705 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 3: Is there anything that you wish you got the chance 706 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: to say or explain further that you didn't. 707 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 7: I really think the book thing it was not. I 708 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 7: would me and Devin from a like personality standpoint very different, right, 709 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 7: that's totally I don't need to explain that. But the 710 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 7: gesture of why I do what I do. I'm someone that, 711 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 7: for better or for worse, I genuinely care about people, 712 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 7: and in that moment, I genuinely cared about him because 713 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 7: he didn't realize how he comes off or even understood 714 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 7: how he makes other people feel. He's just like, this 715 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 7: is just who I am, and I don't care, and 716 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 7: so I want It was like a token of like, hey, 717 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 7: I don't want this to be just what Aaron said. 718 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 7: I was the one being affected. I could have chosen 719 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 7: the path, you know, the Sam M. Thomas path of 720 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 7: like let's just fight it out, and you know, I don't. 721 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 7: You know, I knew that would was not productive. So 722 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 7: I wanted to just genuinely care about him, give him 723 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 7: a gift. You know. It wasn't like a hey, go 724 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 7: read this and figure life out. It was like, Hey, 725 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 7: I want you to succeed. If it's with Jen, I'm 726 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 7: rooting for you. If it's you know, this is a 727 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 7: TV show. At the end of the day if it's 728 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 7: with someone else, like, I want you to better yourself 729 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 7: and be the best version of yourself. So that was 730 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 7: the intent of it, and I feel like that was 731 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 7: missed and it was just all this, oh, Aaron thinks 732 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 7: he knows everything, miss her self help guru, and that's 733 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 7: well it was. 734 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: It was a book. It was a book that helped 735 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: you out, so you in turn wanted to give it 736 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: to him. 737 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 7: So yeah, it was a very transformative. I went through 738 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 7: like kind of a pretty life changing thing after my 739 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 7: divorce and just really had to come to terms with 740 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 7: who I was as a person, kind of rebuild, and 741 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 7: I was so closed off to life, so close off 742 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 7: to emotions, and that book in particular was one of 743 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 7: the first ones I read because it was short and 744 00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 7: I'm not that smart. 745 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 5: And yeah I was. 746 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 7: I was out in the middle of like a different country, 747 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 7: and I was just like really found a new sense 748 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 7: of like who I was and understanding people. And the 749 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 7: biggest thing was empathy. How to put myself in someone 750 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 7: else's shoes, understand their perspective. 751 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 5: And that's really what I was trying to help Devan do. 752 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 5: In that moment, I almost called them, no. 753 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 3: Don't call him Dylan again, Aaron, But so then, you know, 754 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 3: putting yourself in Devin's shoes, do you think you can 755 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: understand why he reacted the way he did to receiving 756 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: the book. 757 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 7: I think he did realize it was sincere but he 758 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 7: also was kind of like didn't believe it. He thought 759 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 7: he didn't want to let me win, you know whatever 760 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 7: that is. So I think he initially was like pushing 761 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 7: back at it. So I get his opinion about that 762 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 7: and how I'm someone I have a growth mindset. If 763 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 7: someone wants to say something about me, I will always 764 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 7: try to understand where they're coming from. I might just 765 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 7: be like, hey, that's just your opinion. Frankly I disagree 766 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 7: and then we you know, that's it. But I'll always 767 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 7: try to listen. And yeah, if someone ever wanted to 768 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 7: give me a book, I would. 769 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 5: Be all for it. 770 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 7: I will maybe read it or maybe it'll go on 771 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 7: my bookshelf. But you know, that's just we're different people. 772 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 7: So I understand that about him, and I can see 773 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 7: how he could say, hey, like thank you, but no 774 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 7: thank you whatever. 775 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, last question. We do see your twin brother 776 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: Noah in the stands tonight and Abby. He kind of 777 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: you know, and he kind of spoke his opinion and 778 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: he on his season was on the receiving hand of 779 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: the book, this book Shit's got end. How did you 780 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: feel hearing in talk? 781 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 7: I think I kind of knew what he was going 782 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 7: to say in a way, you know, I'm reading his 783 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 7: mind as a swin, But I think he said what 784 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 7: he needed to say. I think he towed both lines. 785 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 7: He understood. When Noah received his book from Bennett, he 786 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 7: was like twenty five, and honestly or even younger, he 787 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 7: was very immature, and I think he deserved that. I 788 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 7: think now he's gotten a little bit older, he's had 789 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 7: to figure out some things with life. I mean, he's 790 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 7: about to get married in October, which hope they'll see 791 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 7: both there. I think he understood the sentiment. You know, 792 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 7: it wasn't a dig, It wasn't that let me put 793 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 7: someone down kind of moment. So I think he was 794 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 7: trying to bridge both sides. I mean, I think ultimately 795 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 7: he was like, why did you do that? Like you 796 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 7: shouldn't have done that. That's just his personality. But we're 797 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 7: very different people. So I think he was trying to 798 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 7: bridge the gap of like, I see both ways. 799 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I think that's how it got us. 800 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. 801 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 7: Yeah. 802 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 5: Cool. 803 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: All right, Well, looking forward to meeting you in person, 804 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: and thanks so much for coming on the podcast. 805 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,479 Speaker 7: Yeah, great to see you both. 806 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 5: Well, all right, I. 807 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: All right, Jen, Jen is our next guess, Jen. Well, 808 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: what's up? How you doing? 809 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 11: I'm good? How are you doing? 810 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: We're good, We're good. So tonight you just said you 811 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: chose the islands and came out, but it's his call 812 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: it you came out swigged. 813 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 5: Uh. 814 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: First, well, first let's talk about sam M because you 815 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: definitely let him have it. It did seem like that 816 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: was something that was kind of weighing on you, and 817 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm assuming after watching it all back, you're like, all right, 818 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: well you my peace. 819 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 3: Of mind, and if I'm gonna be honest, your tone 820 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 3: is the tone that I was anticipating from everyone tonight 821 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 3: regarding sam M, and I was surprised by it was 822 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 3: a lot more grace given than I was just expecting, 823 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 3: not saying like he should or shouldn't have gotten it. 824 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 3: And then you know, it's getting kind of koombai eye you. 825 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: Everyone's getting a little tired, and then you came out 826 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 3: and it was like you were like, I'm here. 827 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,479 Speaker 1: To play guys, don't forget this is my show. 828 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 3: Sit down, shut up, and listen. I'm the pachelorette and 829 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 3: I have some stuff to say. 830 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 11: Listen. It's been weighing on me. 831 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 12: I mean, watching things back, you get such a fuller 832 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 12: perspective of everything that's going on. I didn't see the 833 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 12: way he was interacting with the guys, and also watching 834 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 12: our interactions together, You're being able to pinpoint exactly why 835 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 12: something wasn't right. That was really really insightful for me, 836 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 12: and so I think I doubted myself kind of a 837 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 12: little bit throughout the journey with him, but then finally 838 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 12: being able to have an endpoint conclusion as to what 839 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 12: was that went wrong. 840 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 11: I was excited to tell him about that. 841 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 12: And also, you know, I think that the biggest takeaway 842 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 12: I want him to take is to take a step 843 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 12: back and learn from this, like this isn't something that 844 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 12: you can just push to the side, because I truly 845 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 12: do want the boss for him. 846 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you've answered a lot of people's 847 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 3: questions tonight, because I'm sure viewers are going to be 848 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 3: watching and listening to this podcast having seen what his 849 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 3: family and have been putting out about. So they've been 850 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 3: basically saying that the show is not reflecting who Sam 851 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 3: is and what actually happened. So I think it's great 852 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 3: that you came out and addressed that because obviously you 853 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 3: were there, so you are kind of one of the 854 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 3: few people that can speak to how it actually was. 855 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 11: Absolutely, I lived it and and that's exactly guys. 856 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 12: I was so disappointed to seeing him blame things on 857 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 12: an edit when I was like, no, no, no, I 858 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 12: lived every single moment with you there, and that's exactly 859 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 12: how our conversations play up. That's exactly how you feel 860 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 12: in that moment. And so yeah, I wasn't gonna let 861 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 12: him have the last word on that. 862 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 863 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: What how about seeing some of the other guys like Jonathan. 864 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 5: Great it was. 865 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 12: It was so good to see a lot of the guys, 866 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 12: especially Jonathan, and he had such a a heart felt goodbye. 867 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 12: But he's such such a genuinely great guy, and so 868 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 12: it was good to be able to see him again 869 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 12: and kind of cultivate that friendshipping. 870 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 11: At the end of the day. We've been through this 871 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 11: burny together and he's such a wonderful person and I'm 872 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 11: so excited to see him thrive in paradise. 873 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 3: I know that's gonna be really great. What were you 874 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 3: most nervous for tonight? And then what were you most 875 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 3: excited about most nervous? 876 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 11: I don't know if I was necessarily super nervous about anything. 877 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 12: You know, these guys, I've been through a whole duram 878 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 12: with them, so I knew what to expect with them, 879 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 12: and I was like to see them. I was probably 880 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 12: most excited to just see them all again. This journey 881 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,919 Speaker 12: to me holds such a special place in my heart. 882 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 12: It's such a unique experience one sense well to experience. 883 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 12: It was such a great critic guys. You know, it's 884 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 12: it's nice to I'm all back together. 885 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 11: It's like a sorority. 886 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: Hello, are you glad it's over? 887 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 11: You know there's ups and downs, and I think I 888 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 11: don't know. 889 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 12: I don't know if it's I'm glad it's over. I 890 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 12: wouldn't say that, I would say I'm I'm happy it happened. 891 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: Do you have any I don't want to say, I 892 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: don't want to say regrets, but because most people always 893 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: say the answer like, I don't have any regrets. But 894 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 1: is there anything that that you did that you kind 895 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 1: of look back around like, oh, I wish I changed 896 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: this or anything that you would switch out. 897 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 12: I mean, I learned so much and I've grown so 898 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 12: much since the beginning of the journey that yeah, I 899 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 12: mean there are times where I definitely felt like I 900 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 12: should have stood up for myself a little bit more. 901 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 12: For example, I'm sky Tower. I wish that the conversation 902 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 12: between Sam and I really I wish I had put 903 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 12: my foot down more. 904 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 1: And then like, no, I hated that Skytower. I hate 905 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: it watching it. That gave me so much anxiety of 906 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: just being on top of that building. 907 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 11: I hate that. 908 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 909 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, not only are you like on the tallest. 910 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: Built like heights I don't. 911 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 3: Like, but like you're in an argument, like you're you're 912 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 3: feeling like so isolated and alone and all this tension 913 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 3: and you're like I'm gonna fall off this building. 914 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 11: Absolutely. 915 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 916 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 12: So in that moment, I wish I had just stood 917 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 12: up for myself a little bit more. And then like, no, 918 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 12: you need to act right, Like this is not okay 919 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 12: for you. 920 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 6: The act right. 921 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 11: You know, you grow and you learn and and and 922 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 11: that's okay. At least I'm learning from it. 923 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: Last thing? Do you want to ask? Because you went 924 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: pretty far in your season and he just got announced 925 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: the Bachelor, how do you feel about Grant? 926 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 11: I'm so excited for him, truly. 927 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 12: I think he is the perfect picked No one deserves 928 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 12: it more like he from the beginning opened his heart 929 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 12: up so quickly till the journey that I think things 930 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 12: introduced so well on his own journaling well, because as 931 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 12: a lead, that's so important to be able to be open. 932 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 12: And he's so sincere and so genuine and all so 933 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 12: hard and he's just overall like so kind hearted and 934 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 12: such a great guy. 935 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 11: And so I'm truly rooting for him, and I'm so 936 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 11: excited to watch. 937 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's I think he's gonna be great. 938 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 1: I think I think Sam n would have been the 939 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: right choice. If you Joe loves Sam, you wanted real TV, 940 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 1: you you choose the love virgin. 941 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: He's not ave anymore. 942 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: Jonathan, Welcome to the podcast. I'm just gonna throw it 943 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: out there right away. You go by, Jonathan. Everyone's calling 944 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: Jonathan to go home in your whole family is honey, John, 945 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: what's up? 946 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 947 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: It was? 948 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 6: I guess when you're saying it a lot more frequently 949 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 6: it's easier. But I go by Jonathan when I was 950 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 6: at when I was in high school. I work in 951 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 6: a restaurant and I have these group of older women 952 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 6: come up to me and they're like, oh, like, what's 953 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 6: your name, Like you're so cute, and I was like, oh, 954 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 6: thank you, it's john and then they're like short for anything. 955 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, it's short, but Jonathan, and they go, yeah, 956 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 6: you need to go by that for the rest of 957 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 6: your life. 958 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 5: That is a much sexier name. And from that point on, yep, 959 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 5: I'm locked in on Jonathan. 960 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: Now, wow, that's a great story. That's a way better 961 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: story than I expected. How old are you? 962 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 5: Thank you? How old was I? 963 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 4: Yeah? 964 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 5: Eighteen? 965 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: Wow, that's solid salam And you. 966 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 2: Know what, I bet you those women watch The Bachelor 967 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 2: and they're like, he did it, He's still Jonathan. 968 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 5: If they remember that, they would probably freak out. 969 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'm Joe, but like my family calls 970 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: me Joey, but I would never introduce myself Joey. 971 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 2: Or Joseph or Joe Joseph would be your full name. 972 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm never no one. 973 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 3: Well, Joseph and Jonathan are giving different energy, really, Jonathan, Jonathan, Okay, 974 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 3: let's talk about it anyway. 975 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 5: Let's have a Yeah, I have to say, I mean, 976 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 5: we can go on depth about whatever we want. 977 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 3: We'll get into it another time, but I have to say, 978 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 3: you ranked Jen's top three looks tonight so impressed. 979 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more? You nailed it? 980 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 5: Do you guys remember these outfits I'm talking about too? 981 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 3: Yep, the purple retro fit, sparkly dress and then the 982 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 3: little mini white one with the silver fringe. 983 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 5: Yep. 984 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: All right, so tonight there was a lot of a 985 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: lot of man drama, as we expected. It's the then Pella. 986 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: I guess what were were? I mean, the biggest thing 987 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: is probably Aaron and Samon. I feel like most of 988 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: the guys were going at them. What are your takes on? 989 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 1: Let's go Aaron first and then some Salmon. 990 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 6: Honestly, my answer is going to be pretty similar for 991 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 6: both of them. You know, I think a lot of 992 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 6: people land in this like world of not knowing how 993 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 6: to explain their feelings in the correct way, and they 994 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 6: keep talking about opinions. This is my opinion, This is 995 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 6: that opinion, and people are getting offended by it, and 996 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 6: it's like it's an opinion. Everybody's out one. Some of 997 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 6: them suck, Like get over it. Yeah, So for them, 998 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 6: you know that they had some opinions and some of 999 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 6: them sucked, and you just got to sit there and 1000 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 6: just live in that world. But as far as what 1001 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 6: they tried to say to make up for it, you know, 1002 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 6: watching Sam sit up there and just speak his truth 1003 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 6: and actually be able to like articulate his feelings for once, 1004 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 6: it was incredible to see. So we just watched this 1005 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 6: man malfunction pretty much on and then on a one 1006 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 6: on one, not knowing what to say or finding the 1007 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,760 Speaker 6: right words. The fact that he came out there spoke 1008 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 6: so well, was able to explain himself in that way. 1009 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 6: You know, he was trying, you know, and I'll never 1010 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 6: fall to try, and he did incredible of that, So 1011 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 6: I agree. 1012 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: And then and then Jen came out and fucking. 1013 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,760 Speaker 5: I was like, let letter going in on everybody. 1014 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I she was prep she was ready to go out. 1015 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 5: Oh my god, way back of my faces. I'm just 1016 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 5: like the whole time, there was a lot. 1017 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 3: Of shocking things. It was a good one, I feel like, 1018 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 3: you know, there was a lot of droping tonight. But 1019 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 3: the main event for you was, you know, revealing to 1020 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,760 Speaker 3: the audience that you got sent home after Fantasy Suites. 1021 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 3: How was that just finally having that information out there. 1022 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,720 Speaker 3: I'm sure it is a little bit of a relief. 1023 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 3: But watching it back, what were those those emotions. 1024 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 5: Really tough? Honestly, you know, I think the biggest takeaway 1025 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 5: was when I was sitting in. 1026 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 6: The car, I was like, you know, I'm tired of 1027 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 6: being my own biggest enemy, standing my own way and 1028 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 6: made a mistake again, you know, by not letting. 1029 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 5: Myself fully feel for the person that was in front 1030 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 5: of me. So watching the back was tough. 1031 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 6: You know, those emotions were super real, and I think 1032 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 6: I've watched it now three times since it's plaid. 1033 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 5: Every time, I like get choked up a little bit. 1034 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, standing in my own way and not allowing myself 1035 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 6: to validate my own feelings, feel how I want to feel. 1036 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 5: Like if I love somebody, need to let them know. 1037 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 5: I need to let myself know and just go for it. 1038 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 6: So that was the biggest takeaway, And honestly, it was 1039 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 6: just I don't know, I loved every moment of it, 1040 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 6: but it was definitely definitely an emotional Yeah. 1041 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: So after watching that and kind of like, I don't 1042 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 1: know pinpointing what your issues are going into you you 1043 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 1: get a ticket to Paradise. You're the first one. How 1044 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: are you gonna approach Paradise? 1045 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think for the biggest part of 1046 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 6: it for me, and I don't know how the show 1047 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 6: I want to see. Before I went on the Bachelrette, 1048 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 6: I only watched Joey's season. I'd never seen The Bachelor Bacheorette, 1049 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 6: so I've never seen Paradise either, So I don't really 1050 00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 6: have much of a strategy going into it. 1051 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: But I will say it's just like it's basically like 1052 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: if you went to a pool party in Mexico with 1053 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: like six of your friends and then a few other 1054 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: guys that you don't really know but you know of, 1055 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: and then there's a there's a like seven or eight 1056 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:19,760 Speaker 1: girls that you've. 1057 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 2: Heard of, and everyone's good looking and singing, And. 1058 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 13: Everyone's good looking and singing, there's also okay, Yeah, I 1059 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 13: think the biggest thing that I would do is take 1060 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 13: away what I just took away from this last season's 1061 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 13: beast rat and I feel something, feel it, you know, 1062 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 13: let us run with it. 1063 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 6: If I like somebody, I can let them know, hey, 1064 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 6: I think we have something here, or if I if 1065 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 6: I have loved with somebody honestly, like I'm I'm not 1066 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 6: afraid to say it, and I'd rather just let you 1067 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 6: know now. I'd rather shoot big and win big then 1068 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 6: not shoot at all and see you appen. So my 1069 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 6: only strategy is holding myself accountable to those feelings. 1070 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 14: Can I give you some advice as a as a love, 1071 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 14: it moves quick, quicker than quicker than you think. 1072 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: So if you do feel something, lean into it and 1073 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 1: lean into it right away. Don't sit back because things 1074 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: happen faster than you realize. 1075 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 2: I've never heard you give that advice before I get 1076 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 2: to ask you. 1077 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 1: It's good advice, don't you think? Yeah? 1078 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 2: It is the advice. 1079 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 5: Do I get to ask a question too, Yeah? 1080 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, go for it. 1081 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 6: If I feel it with somebody quickly, should I just 1082 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 6: run with that since we're working with limited time, or 1083 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 6: do I still kind of weigh out the other options? 1084 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: That's exactly you just answered. You just answered you run 1085 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 1: with what you feel because all the people that go 1086 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: to paradise and like, oh but no, I'm gonna weigh 1087 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: my options are gonna sit around, they're going to weigh 1088 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: their options, they're going to fuck it up, nothing's going 1089 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: to happen, and they usually let a good thing go 1090 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: to way. 1091 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 3: I mean, look, there's a window of time in the 1092 00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 3: beginning where it's appropriate to explore. Even if feeling it 1093 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,479 Speaker 3: with someone, they're probably exploring. But I think the best 1094 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 3: thing is to know when to shut the door and 1095 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 3: know you have a good thing and be like, I'm 1096 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 3: putting all my eggs in this basket and if it 1097 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 3: doesn't work, it's okay, but at least I. 1098 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 2: Know I really went for something real. Yeah, so that's 1099 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 2: our advice. But I have one more question for you. 1100 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 3: I feel like watching your exit interview in the car, 1101 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,399 Speaker 3: you were very vulnerable and you really talked about kind 1102 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 3: of what you feel like you should have done differently, 1103 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 3: And I think that's amazing. I think there's so much 1104 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 3: to be learned about ourselves going on a show like this. 1105 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 3: But I will say I feel like you were hard 1106 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 3: on yourself, and do you feel like watching it back 1107 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 3: you have more clarity because I feel like you and 1108 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 3: crust me if I'm wrong. I'm not trying to put 1109 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 3: words your helt, but I feel like you took a 1110 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 3: lot of the blame for the relationship not working out. 1111 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 3: Do you feel like watching it back, there was a 1112 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 3: sense of clarity of maybe where her other relationships. 1113 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 6: Were at one hundred percent. I've actually been saying that 1114 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 6: to today. Is people asked about closure. Watching the Final 1115 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 6: three me a lot of closure on. 1116 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 5: What we had. 1117 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,879 Speaker 6: You know, she has pronounced her love that she has 1118 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 6: for Marcus. She's in love with Marcus, and Devin is 1119 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 6: in love with her, you know, and we're sitting in 1120 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 6: this beautiful middle route where we get along. Everything's great 1121 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 6: and it feels so amazing to spend time together, but 1122 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 6: it's like expact, it's something that's not clicking. 1123 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 7: You know. 1124 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 6: That's the movie has passed friendly love and we have 1125 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 6: so much fun to this is my forever, you know. 1126 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 6: We just never got to that point. So that hardness 1127 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 6: I had on myself. I didn't know the depth of 1128 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,399 Speaker 6: what she was beating to with these other two guys, 1129 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 6: you know, So seeing that she was able to get 1130 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 6: there and get there quicker with them, I'm like, you 1131 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 6: know what, it wasn't anything outside of what we could 1132 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 6: have done. 1133 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,399 Speaker 11: It was just it wasn't there. 1134 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good question. And honestly, I 1135 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 1: hate when people are too high on themselves for like, 1136 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 1: especially at the end, because there's so many different factors 1137 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: and it's like whatever, and you'll figure it out, yeah, 1138 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, like you're gonna like, like Jonathan, You're going 1139 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: to be fine, Like you're gonna go on paradise, You're 1140 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,240 Speaker 1: gonna do really well and you're gonna end up getting 1141 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 1: engaged and you're happily. Ever, Jod just manifested, I actually, 1142 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 1: I actually think I think it's gonna work out for you. 1143 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 1: R I have I have sincere hope. 1144 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 5: I hope, So I hope. 1145 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,359 Speaker 6: I'm sitting here across Tom you guys with somebody next 1146 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 6: to me that you guys are like, yeah, we knew it, it. 1147 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 1: Works, or you're gonna completely funk it up, but either way, 1148 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: and then. 1149 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 6: I'm sitting here and I'm like, dude, advice, broyow me 1150 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 6: back either way. 1151 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: Jonathan, thank you so much for taking the time. We 1152 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,879 Speaker 1: really appreciate it, and this won't be the last time 1153 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,800 Speaker 1: we'll be seeing you, so good luck with everything. 1154 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,400 Speaker 2: Thanks Jonathan. 1155 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: All right, everyone, thank you for tuning in to Thatchler 1156 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: Happy Hour at is all the guys we're gonna be 1157 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 1: interviewing today. We hope you enjoyed it and make sure 1158 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: you stay tuned. 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