1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: Good mornings, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Podcast presented by FanDuel. It's Monday, June fifteenth, twenty twenty six. 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: me as always tas. 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: Mellis podcast listeners, this is for you. 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top Shop hot Boy, Trey Kirby, 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: hel Hey Yo, and over yonder making the magic happen. 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: Super producer Jendi. Hello there he is. 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: Hello to everybody on YouTube podcast listeners, Hello as well. 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Everybody hit the like button, subscribe, five star ratings and reviews. 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 1: I just want to get this out of the way 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: right now. Today's or excuse me, this week's No Dunk 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: schedule not five days this week. We're going today, Wednesday, 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: and Friday. 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 3: Now. 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: We will be available for emergency podcasts as well if 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: any big name or two is traded. But that's the 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: plan right now. Got today's podcast back on Wednesday, maybe 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: hitting the beach, so get your questions in. Friday, will 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: have the drop. Also, this is fun. We got a 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: Weggie super cut drop in tomorrow. We've compiled all seventy 22 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: four Wedgies from the regular season and one in the 23 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: postseason one in the finals there put them all together. 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: Fun little video reliving all of the wedgies with the 25 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: calls too, which is fun. 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: How many times broadcasters actually use the word wedging It 27 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: can very impressive. 28 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: We can crunch the number. 29 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: Yes, it increases every single time. 30 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeap. 31 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: So we will drop that tomorrow at ten am, so 32 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: you can come check that out later. In today's podcast, 33 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: we're talking Yannis, yeah baby, oh yeah. We've got a 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: new I guess sort of new Yannis trade rumor Bill 35 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: Simmons really kicking it off. We'll get into that and 36 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: whether there's any validity to Yannis going to the Celtics. 37 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: But but, but butt. The New York Knicks did the 38 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: impossible over the weekend. They won their first championship since 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three. That was a big deal. We jumped 40 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: on Sunday here in the Classic Factory to do a podcast. 41 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: Go check that one out, recapping Game five, talking about 42 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: the finals. The parade is set for Thursday. That's gonna be. 43 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: That's gonna be must sy TV slash social media. I 44 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: think that one in New York. Hopefully they got good 45 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: weather there. You know, they're always fun. But I feel 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: like this one. Oh, maybe I'm over hyping it. I'm 47 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: excited for this one. So we'll see him. We'll talk 48 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: about it, I'm sure on Friday's podcast. But before we 49 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: say goodbye to this regular season. In the season NBA 50 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: Finals winners and losers, I thought we could do here 51 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: obvious winner, New York Knicks. Obvious. There's a lot more 52 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: we can dig into. Yeah, GK, you get us started here. 53 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: We'll do a couple of rounds of this from both sides. 54 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: Who's your big winner from the finals? Deep cut as well? 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson for me, is one of the big winners 56 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 4: from this NBA Finals. He was the unanimous Finals MVP, 57 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 4: finished at almost thirty three points a game, four rebounds, 58 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: four and a half assist, averaged eleven per fourth quarter 59 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: as well, And that's really where he won Finals MVP 60 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 4: if you ask me. But the reason I say he 61 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: is the biggest winner here not a deep cut at all. 62 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: But this is one of the most valuable single titles 63 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 4: that a player could win. Legacy wise, Jalen Brunson winning 64 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 4: a ring for the Knicks is more important than Lebron 65 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 4: going to Miami and winning two more important than Kevin 66 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: Durant going to the Golden State Warriors and winning too. 67 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 4: Being the first guy to New York, being the first 68 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: guy to lead the Knicks to a title in the 69 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 4: two thousands, in fifty three years, that matters a whole bunch. 70 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 4: It's up there with Dirk Novitsky sticking it out for 71 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: his entire career in Dallas and finally getting over the 72 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: hump in twenty eleven. This will maybe go down as 73 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: a bigger deal historically because it is the Knicks. But 74 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: I mean, we've been talking since the Knicks made the finals. 75 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: Where does this put Jalen Brunson in the realm of 76 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: Knicks players all time? If he's third at worst, pretty 77 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: awesome to be the third best player for a team 78 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: like the Knicks, one of the most storied franchise an 79 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 4: NBA history. So Jalen Brunson an easy winner. 80 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting those two names you used as 81 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: comparisons there in Lebron and KD Once upon a time 82 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: are many times being linked to the New York Knicks 83 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: as the savior? 84 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: Could they go in finally? Get why I bring them up? 85 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Lebron, everybody thought he was going to New York 86 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 4: in twenty ten. Yep, yep, yeah, Kady, don't you regret 87 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 4: not coming to the Knicks was a hilarious joke that 88 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 4: was kind of like early in the run of the 89 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson area of the bing Bong era. So both 90 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: of those guys had a chance to go to New York. 91 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 4: If they go to New York and win only one 92 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,559 Speaker 4: title there and it's the only title in their career, 93 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 4: it would matter more, I think than the ones they 94 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 4: got after those free agency moves. Look, Lebron's in twenty 95 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: sixteen is a different category as well. That's more like 96 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: what Brunson did for sure. But both Lebron and Katy 97 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 4: had a chance to go to the Knicks and do 98 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: what Brunson did, they decided not to. 99 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 3: Brunson did it. He's awesome. 100 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, Lebron's was cool, and that he went back to 101 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: Cleveland to do exactly what he needed to do, and 102 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: that one definitely usurps his in Miami for him, There's 103 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: no doubt about that. So yeah, this was admirable in 104 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: so many ways for Jalen Brunson, including that he got 105 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: tons of admiration from the opponent Victor wembin Yama. When 106 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: he talked postgame, he basically said, what I'm going to 107 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: work on postseason is to look like that guy Jalen Brunson. Essentially, 108 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: he quotes said he wanted to maintain control of the 109 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: game at all times. That's what really stands out about 110 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson, for example, noting that guy by name, saying 111 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: that guy over there, that's what I want to be like. Essentially. 112 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: You know, you talked about working hard or being more durable, 113 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: keep a fresh mind and all that, but he said, 114 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: there's too many moments. It doesn't come from bad intentions, 115 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: but there are too many moments where I'm passive, I 116 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: don't have control over the game. And he wants to 117 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: be like Jalen Brunts and Jalen Brunson has his opponents, 118 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: the guys he defeats wants to be like him. He's 119 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: got kids, I'm sure trying to have that dribble package 120 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: bounce into like for the last few weeks, just being 121 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: able to maintain that those dribbles, the mental toughness, that's 122 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: why it's a special a couple weeks. Also, as you said, 123 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: he went and he got that MVP in game five, 124 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 2: essentially because some people were going to give it to 125 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: others after game four and we're going to say, oh, Gen, 126 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: it'll be so a minor winner, I think is all 127 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: the media voters who don't have to look stupid and think, 128 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: maybe I'll vote for somebody else. When Jalen Brunson was 129 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: the guy who got them to three to one, he 130 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: should have won it after four games, and he obviously 131 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: stamped it made it clear after game five. Yeah. 132 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: In Game one, Brunson scored thirteen of his thirty points 133 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: with five to nine shooting in the fourth quarter. That 134 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: was huge in that victory. In Game two, he knocked 135 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: down the game tying shot with under forty seconds to go, 136 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: and then the game winning free throw off of the 137 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: Webbinia Minesota sort of brain fart there running into him. 138 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: Game four, Brunson made six of eight shots from the 139 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: eight to twenty three mark of the third quarter to 140 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: the one twenty two mark of the fourth quarter. That's 141 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: the span where they the Knicks cut a twenty three 142 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: point deficit to a one point lead for them. So 143 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: he helped and spearheaded the largest comeback we've ever seen 144 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: in finals. And then in Game five, yeah, a masterpiece, 145 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: forty five points high efficiency at that stamps the highest 146 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: final scoring average by a point guard in history, thirty 147 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: two point six points per game. I know it's a 148 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: little it's pretty remarkable. So yeah, Jalen Brunson is a massive, 149 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: massive winner here. And my favorite quote about him is 150 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: from Mike Brown himself. Brunson is one of the toughest 151 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: motherfuckers I've ever been around. I think that's what Wemby's 152 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: getting at, and I need to be that And why 153 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: can't he be that. He's only twenty two years old. 154 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: It's not like Brunson is a young guy here. He's experienced. 155 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess that's what Wemby was saying. I 156 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: don't know, Yeah, yeah, no, I know. But he when 157 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: he said in French, when he said basically see you guys, 158 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: never he said he said it in French, I think 159 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: that's what he was saying. If I'm going to speculate, 160 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: it's basically I'm going to be a whole new person 161 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: because I'm going to train myself differently this summer. I 162 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: assume it's not like I'm never playing basketball again or 163 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to retire. That's what he meant or 164 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: or I hate all of you and so I'm gonna 165 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: be so happy to not see you for the next 166 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: three months, which you know, he went through whatever he 167 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: went through these last few weeks and had some ups 168 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: and downs with all the shoving and bushing and hitting 169 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: that he did it on the floor. But I think 170 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: that's what it is. I think I'm assuming right. 171 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: The one thing he promised we would find out about 172 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: was the whole concussion incident early in the playoffs. 173 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: Remember he said I'll tell you, I'll tell you after. 174 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: This is all over. Yeah, so maybe we'll hear from 175 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: him again. 176 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: Okay. 177 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: Jaleen Brunson, I'm glad we're starting there an obvious A 178 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: plus winner from the finals. Who else you got or what. 179 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: Else you got? 180 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 2: Well? Leon Rose leading the next front office. A lots 181 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: of love for that guy. Everybody who started in this 182 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: NBA Finals he went and got he acquired. None of 183 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: those were draftees, as we talked about after Game five, 184 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: So lot's credit to him, and maybe subsequently, in a 185 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: small way, the other gms, the other guy's leading front offices, 186 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: can say, hey, do you see what they did? Aalen 187 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: Brounson took that pay cut so they could boost their 188 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: lineups around him. We got to do that, and so 189 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: you know there's a miner winner, go. 190 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: Hire a bunch of dads to scout college teams of 191 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: good friends. 192 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 2: Good friends, pay cuts. You know, we kind of skip over. 193 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: We know that huge deal that he got initially to 194 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: come from Dallason, New York, but then when he signed 195 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 2: the extension, also took a pay cut so they could 196 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 2: sign everybody else and go get a cat and that 197 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: kind of thing. So everybody in front office and Leon 198 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: Roses goes from agent to leading a front office to 199 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: acquiring everybody he had to acquire, and he's admired around 200 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: the league. 201 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: It was pretty amazing, incredible roster building here. Obviously the 202 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: signing of Jalen Brunson, and then like you said, getting 203 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: Cat from the Wolves, Og from the Raptors, Bridges from 204 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: the Nets, fuck them picks, and then Josh Harty even 205 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: from the Blazers in a you know, that was like 206 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: a four team deal where Josh hart found his way 207 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: to New York and then all these other little pieces 208 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: as well. 209 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 3: To Mitchell Robinson is the only guy he didn't acquire. 210 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike and Mike Brown, which is huge because everybody 211 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: was concerned. Tom Thibodeau just took us to the conference finals. 212 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: You're firing him. Well, he definitely played guys in fewer 213 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: minutes this past season. No one among the Knicks was 214 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: top ten in minutes played this past season. Benjaminutes went up, 215 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: brunts and dribbles went up. Excuse me, went up and 216 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: went down a little bit, like he passed the ball 217 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: a little bit more, And obviously it increased in the playoffs. Obviously, 218 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 2: his training staff, keeping all his guys healthy, the whole thing, 219 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: the whole thing. Obviously. 220 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he Mike Brown, seems like the ultimate 221 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: players coach to me, like they love him, they like him. 222 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: He's like he's silly in a good way. It's tough 223 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: to imagine. Thibodeau is an incredible coach, but it is 224 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: tough to imagine this squad as this roster is currently 225 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: constructed led by him doing some of the stuff we 226 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: saw over the last couple of weeks. 227 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: It just is. 228 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: And a part of it is, of course, does he 229 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: sort of run guys into the ground a little too 230 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: much in the regular season because tips coaches every game 231 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: like it is maybe a Game seven and loses sight 232 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: sometimes with the big picture. But Mike Brown was an awesome, 233 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: awesome higher here. And you know, I guess thanks to 234 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: the Sacramento Kings two for firing him so he was 235 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: available to be hired. Thank you, Sacramento. So yeah, Leon 236 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: Rose and Mike Brown I had on my list here, 237 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: especially that part where they yeah, Rose didn't inherit a 238 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: single starter on this team, and to do that, it's 239 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: pretty pretty quick work here too. And look Dolan for 240 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: staying the hell out of the way, I guess too, 241 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: which we wonder is that ever possible with this guy? 242 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: He can't help himself. Maybe the best thing that happened 243 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: was building the sphere. He just got all distracted by 244 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: the screen and the technology and all these all over 245 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: the world he's building. He just left the building to 246 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: the pros here. In terms of basketballsome good winner. 247 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah that was surprising. The one that I mentioned after 248 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: Game five that they are the first team in NBA 249 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: history to have five guys run out there that they 250 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: didn't draft in a clinching game to start to start 251 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: a game. Surprising, Yeah, oh surprising. But kudos to Leon Rose. 252 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 3: Other winners. 253 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: Oh Geeobie the hand of Og on the tip, average 254 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: twenty a game during the playoffs, shooting fifty six percent 255 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 4: from the field forty nine from three, plus giving you 256 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 4: six rebounds, a steal and a half in a block 257 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: every single night. He actually missed time during this postseason, Like, 258 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 4: that's pretty easy to forget that he was out with 259 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 4: a hamstring, which was a problem for OG during last 260 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 4: playoffs or maybe a couple of playoffs ago. But we've 261 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 4: seen times where Og makes it to the playoffs and 262 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 4: isn't able to continue playing in the postseason. Instead, he 263 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 4: raised his game, had a run at finals, MVP made 264 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 4: the biggest play in Knick's modern history. At the very least, 265 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 4: it's just cool to see him like actually get a 266 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 4: chance to show what he's allegedly been saying behind the 267 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 4: scenes since Toronto. I want a bigger role. I can 268 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 4: go out there and score a whole bunch of points. 269 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 4: I can do it with the ball in my hand. 270 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 4: And he's actually doing twenty per game during the playoffs. 271 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: Had the huge game in Game four, plus the game 272 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 4: winning tip, plus the defensive play to even set up 273 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: the tip. This was like the guy that everyone is 274 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 4: saying just he's a winning player. You know he's going 275 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 4: to make something happen if he's ever able to stay healthy. 276 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 4: He finally was thanks to Leon Rose's training staff, and 277 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 4: he was one of the biggest difference makers. 278 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: I think in the entire finals. 279 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: I'll go mckail Bridges as another winner here too, because 280 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, there is the whole. He probably never has 281 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: to hear about the five first round picks sort of 282 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: ever again because he's a champion and they're hanging the banner. 283 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: So that's huge for him. You get that monkey off 284 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: your back. He also did have a good Game five. 285 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: I know, like it was all Brunson, but he did 286 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: chip in fourteen points, desperately needed points, so that helped 287 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: get them across the line. His other big game in 288 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: the finals was Game two, but they won. Obviously that 289 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: was the wemb be throwing it away and all the 290 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: antics at the end, but he scored twenty points. B 291 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: kil Bridges did in that game, hit four threes, and 292 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: I just think we keep saying early in the postseason, Wow, 293 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: they were down to one and what happened Cat? They 294 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: started going through catmore huge narrative, huge change for the 295 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: Knicks win. They started ripping off the win streak. But 296 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: around that same time too was mckail Bridges who was 297 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: getting benched, who once again everybody's going, oh my god, 298 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: we traded how many picks for this guy? He's not 299 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: doing anything. After those couple games where he got very 300 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: few minutes, he got unlocked too. I mean, he was 301 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: lights out in the Philadelphia series. Now they swept him 302 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: and it was not really a problem at all. He 303 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: was incredible at continued and so he also avenges his 304 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: two to zero finals lead once upon a time with 305 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: the Phoenix Sun. So I'll give Bridges a little love here. 306 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: I think, you know, at the end of the day, 307 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: we'll have a lot of other guys remembered ahead of him. 308 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: But he played his part and I think does get 309 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: forgotten a little bit in the turnaround in the postseason 310 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: for the Knicks because it was mainly cat where they 311 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: started running through that and the offense started humming. But 312 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: he actually started attacking, started to have some confidence in 313 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: his shot and played a part too. 314 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was dead for a while. It was a 315 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: little Fred van Vlid esque from the Toronto Raptors days. 316 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: He wasn't there and and Mike Brown had to bench 317 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: him he literally benched him in the Atlanta series, but 318 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: he came back out and was, yeah, eight for nineteen 319 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: from three in this series. Good numbers. Well, you know, 320 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: just too games where he contributed offensively, but those points 321 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: were totally needed. And I think that's why Josh Hart 322 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: I mentioned it for nineteen because Josh Hart surprisingly, even 323 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: though they left him open, he did bang home some. 324 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: He was eight for twenty in this series, so surprising, 325 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, he was literally couldn't score four games, 326 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: but then was able to chip in like me kill Bridges? 327 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: Did any other winners? I have won more? I got 328 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: a to go ahead. Kat's a winner for sure. 329 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 4: His play tailed off after game two when he was 330 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 4: getting finals MVP chatter, but the way he played through 331 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 4: two games allowed the Knicks to build a two zero 332 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 4: lead on the road. 333 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: That was huge. Him out playing Wemby. 334 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: For a couple of games, the MVP for two days, 335 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: a rough game. 336 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: Who cares? Who cares? 337 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: It's like like Bridges didn't. He had a couple of 338 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: good games too. Hart had a couple of good games too. 339 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 4: Brunson and Og showed up for every single game, but 340 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 4: they got enough good performances in enough games from the 341 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 4: three other starters that have put him over the edge. 342 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 4: So those are my Knicks winners, the entire starting lineup 343 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 4: and their coach. Other Knicks side winners. I would throw 344 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 4: in the Baja Men. Biggest moment for the Baha Men 345 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: in twenty five years easily. 346 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: Well, hold, this. 347 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: Is so funny the timing there. Oh man, I'm drawing 348 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: a blank on this comedian's name. Have you seen the 349 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: clips going around the guy that's like it's like every 350 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: word he says, there's like a shotgun and the lights 351 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: go crazy and it's like really over the top. His 352 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: whole bit is something with the Baja Men. And he tells, 353 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: like in his show, like do you know how many 354 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: Baha Men there are? 355 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 4: And I have actually saw this clip and he brings 356 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 4: out the Baja He brings apparently there's like eighteen total, 357 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 4: but is there like anyway, it's like that's the whole bit. 358 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, the guy comes out. So the Baja Men 359 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: are having an incredible They're having a. 360 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 4: Great run right now. Hopefully they get to go to 361 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: the parade on Thursday. That'd be really cool to see 362 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 4: all eighteen of them. Mariska Hargate Big Time Winner She's 363 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 4: the biggest winner of all the celeb fans. 364 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: For me, she's a real one. 365 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's a real one. She was there during the 366 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 4: bad times and she was there for Game four celebrating 367 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 4: with Taylor Swift. Now looks Taylor Swift. I think it's 368 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: a minor winner here. I'm also giving a minor winner 369 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: to homemade T shirts. Those are very cool. He saw 370 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 4: Knicks fans start making them for theirselves for Game five 371 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 4: as well. But seeing Mariska Hargeta like immediately go hug 372 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson and Rick Brunson after this Game four comeback, 373 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 4: she felt like their mom or I guess Rick Brunson's wife. 374 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 3: So that was very very. 375 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 4: Funny to me that she was like the first person 376 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 4: there to congratulate them. I would also say Wu Tang 377 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 4: Clan Oh big winner down by twenty nine performed that 378 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 4: halftime of Game four and the Riz God the Year 379 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 4: of rizk God continues. 380 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 3: Right, explain the Risk God for those that don't know, 381 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 3: who doesn't know the Risk guy? 382 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 4: Come on, he was on what every episode of Survivor 383 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: the past twenty six episodes of Survivor. He came on 384 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 4: no dunks and he told us that the Knicks we're 385 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 4: going to win the finals. He said, oh g nnob 386 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 4: was going to be the finals Underpe didn't totally get 387 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: that right, but at least he picked the second best player. 388 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 4: And I don't think he got the exact score right 389 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 4: for game one, but he told us the nixt we're 390 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 4: gonna win. Y yep, he was cooking. 391 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 3: He was cooking. 392 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Back to Marissa, just for one sec. Shout out 393 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: to her because she's never on her phone and she is. 394 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 2: She is a true a real one in that she's 395 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: been there forever and she's just there because she loves 396 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: the game. She's not as much as we give. You know, 397 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: we talked about the celebrities in New York. There's a 398 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: lot of them, and so a lot of them who 399 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: just showed up for a game or two are there. 400 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: She's been there forever and she doesn't. 401 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: She's like got a one woman Broadway show, I guess. 402 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: And that one game where they were all wearing the 403 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: Game four with Taylor Swifton and the crew, she like 404 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: she sprinted from her show because of traffic was creazy. 405 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: She apparently ran as soon as her show ended to 406 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: the arena, not to get there as quick as possible. 407 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: She's she's a real one. 408 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 3: She's dedicated. 409 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I have another huge winner, ABC, ESPN, the NBA. 410 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: You know, silver, This was a well watched finals. I 411 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: think we're waiting on Game five's ratings here as of 412 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: Monday morning, but through the first four games, the twenty 413 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: six Finals averaged nearly twenty million viewers on ABC, Slash ESPN. 414 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: It became the. 415 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: Most watched since the Finals moved to ABC and ESPN 416 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: to those networks in two thousand and two, so that's encouraging. 417 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: There's apparently big growth among younger viewers too, from like 418 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: the twelve to seventeen and the eighteen to twenty four 419 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: age groups. They skyrocketed. It was just a great matchup. 420 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: You had the nation's largest media market in New York, 421 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: and then you had this generational gotta see this guy 422 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: play in Victor Wemanyama and the very young team on 423 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: the on the come up there and knocking off the 424 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: champs and defending champs and okaysee, so they gotta be 425 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: happy with this. These are pretty damn good numbers for 426 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. Absolutely, and again we'll wait to find 427 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: out how Game five went. 428 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, where are the numbers. I don't know, it's been days. 429 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't work on the weekend. Nielsen takes off 430 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: the weekend. Any other winners are we on a talking Yeah? 431 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 3: I got Spurs winners. 432 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 4: Dylan Harper clearly a winner for the Spurs, biggest winner 433 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 4: for the Spurs. I would say eighteen points, six rebounds, 434 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 4: three assis per game, shot forty nine from the field, 435 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: only twenty eight from three. I don't remember him making 436 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 4: any catch and shoot threes. But if he had the 437 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 4: ball in his hands, he could shoot threes. Only six 438 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 4: total turnovers for Dylan Harper, and everybody leaves this series 439 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 4: saying why didn't this guy play more? 440 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 441 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 4: Why was he coming off the bench? There's also the 442 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 4: weird interview with Devin Vessel where he's like, Harper wasn't 443 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 4: happy with his role or his minutes. So that was 444 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: kind of surprising to hear. Uh, maybe just talking about 445 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 4: early in the season with who knows what's going on? 446 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: I know because I listened to it too. He mentions 447 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: the g League, he is going down to the Giliaue himself. 448 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: Any kind of just throws in that he was a 449 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: little upset, but yeah, the end of game five was 450 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: tough to watch and that Dearren Fox was missing and 451 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: we'll get to losers, so I'm sure dear. 452 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 4: Until we want yeah, well yeah, yeah, so we can. 453 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 4: We can say a little Harper for them as well. 454 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 4: But I think he's definitely, definitely a winner. He came 455 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: out looking great from this to the point where everyone's 456 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 4: like it. The more we get from Dylan Harper, the 457 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 4: better it would have been for the Spurs. I think 458 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: Devin Vassell and Jillian Champenni also get to be winners. 459 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 4: Forty seven percent from three for Vessel, forty one percent 460 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: from three for Champennie. This was their first taste of 461 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 4: the playoffs and to me, those two guys proved that 462 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 4: they can be rotation members on a championship team. I 463 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 4: do think the Spurs, in the grand scheme of things, 464 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 4: could upgrade, specifically the Champenney spot. Get somebody with a 465 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 4: little bit more size, because I thought as the playoffs 466 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 4: went on, you saw the limitations with Champennie, like he's 467 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 4: a good fourth best perimeter defender, but if he's out 468 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 4: there on the court, he's gonna get hunted, and he 469 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 4: was offering zero resistance against Brunson. It's great to say 470 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 4: everybody could use an ogn Andobe type, but the Spurs 471 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 4: could definitely like get somebody bigger and bulkier. But I 472 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 4: still was impressed with Champagnie and to me, like he 473 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 4: would be at the very least than a seven man 474 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 4: rotation for a finals game because he was proven it 475 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 4: out there, like he was up and down with his 476 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 4: three point shooting. He'd make five and a half and 477 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 4: then zero, but still if he's making five in a game, yeah, 478 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: that's great. So those two guys are winners for me. 479 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: I mean, like, I mean, we'll get into Fox for sure, 480 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: Like not a great series for him, and you know, 481 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: maybe because of the high ankle sprain and all that, 482 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: and he has excuses, but the Spurs did lead the 483 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: NBA Finals for seventy two percent of the damn Finals, 484 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: so they were the better team for nearly three quarters 485 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: of it. Just obviously couldn't close the door in a 486 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: lot of cases. And maybe that's just the inexperience and 487 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: the Wemby factor of like he's got to go take 488 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: his lumps and stuff like that. But yeah, a lot 489 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: of those guys did play really well, absolutely and ahead 490 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: of schedule, because like nobody had them really going all 491 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: the way to the finals to begin with. 492 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: And they had never been there. And I know we 493 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: always think about the experience factor and whether that was enough. 494 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: And you mentioned Champagne. He was so good in first 495 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: halves and then he would drop off in the second 496 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: halves and is that just not playing enough? Maybe, but 497 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 2: they'd need height, that is for sure. And we'll get 498 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: to more Dylan Harper because you know, I'm just going 499 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: back to my Dylan Harper notes after Game five because 500 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: it was just awesome how he was able to take 501 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: advantage of who was in front of him. He was 502 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: giving it to Deuce who was too tiny, but he 503 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: was also catching off Wemby doubles. But he's also driving 504 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: after everybody, So yeah, he was. He made his name 505 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: known the most outside of one Vinyama for this purse. Yeah. 506 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: Uh okay, well let's do let's do losers. Do we 507 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: start with the Aaron Fox as the most obvious biggest loser. 508 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: Of the NBA Finals? 509 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, he was rough and rough to close out 510 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: Game five where those shots were where they're falling, they 511 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: were so short as some of them and they're open 512 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: and so he just wasn't himself. You mentioned the high 513 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: ankle sprain easily could have been a problem. 514 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he struggled for a couple of rounds of 515 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs here, It wasn't like he just sort of 516 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: completely fell off. In the finals. He had moments where 517 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 1: it looked like maybe Fox was back. Yeah, I mean 518 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: game seven right against Okay, See a was a good 519 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: year in Fox. 520 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: Game. 521 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: But you combine that with the guy who's behind you 522 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: playing so awesome, that's the thing, here's the question. 523 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: And you combine it with the fact that your extension 524 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: is about to kick in and you're going to be 525 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: paid you know, four years, two hundred and thirty million, 526 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: let's call it. 527 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 528 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: Now you know there are people today going trade them. 529 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: Get him out of here. He's gonna hold you back. 530 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: Got to go to Harper Moore. I do not think 531 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: the Spurs are going to overreact to this, to to 532 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: him having a bad finals. I just don't think that's 533 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: the way that organization is run. Do you have an 534 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: opinion on what they should do with yourn Fox. 535 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: Here, Well, they should trade him, but every other team 536 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 4: watched the finals as well, so that's the trading him 537 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: at the lowest. Yeah, you're trading him as his extension 538 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 4: kicks and he gets more expensive and his values at 539 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 4: the lowest not the ideal time to be trading him in. 540 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 3: But it's just not going to make sense to have Fox, 541 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: Harper and Castle. 542 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I think that if they do keep him, 543 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 2: you close games with one of Harper or Fox, because 544 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: it's just Harper is just thrown on the back burner 545 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: while Fox tries to make plays and Harper's not doing it. 546 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 2: And so if you know they have a taller guy 547 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: playing alongside, whether it's Harper and Sefan Castle, you know, 548 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: plus your your vessel and a big guy, then it's 549 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 2: it's it's easier to do defensively, and it just makes 550 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 2: more sense. I mean, it is weird to say Fox 551 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: won't close games at times, but I think that's what 552 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: it has to be like, going through a guy a 553 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: little bit more often that that's that seemed to be 554 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: the end of the game and how it didn't work out. 555 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 2: Now it's a lot on on Harper's shoulders to say, hey, 556 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: you're now the guy playing thirty minutes a game, closing games, 557 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: but it looks like the. 558 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: Guy that should be playing yeah, and minutes a game to. 559 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 2: Take away too much from each other on the floor. 560 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: So and you know, it's one thing that Fox went 561 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: over four in the close out game and struggled down 562 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: the stretch, like okay, he missed shots that socks, don't 563 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: get me wrong, But it really is that boneheaded play 564 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: and decision at the end of game four where he 565 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: should not have taken a layup with Og chasing him down. 566 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: He should have dribbled out and kept the ball and 567 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: got fouled and shoot the free throws and they have 568 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: a much better chance than to survive the crazy comeback 569 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: and go back obviously to too to San Antonio for 570 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: a best of three with home court advantage. Like that's 571 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: that's sort of inexcusable from the one guy who is 572 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: your vet. I. No, he hasn't had a lot of 573 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: postseason you know runs either, But you've been around the block, 574 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: and I'm sure he regrets it. I know he's thinking 575 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: I beat him to it. I'm the fastest guy in 576 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: the league. I'm getting there. I'll just take the two points. 577 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? 578 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: But Oj wasn't that far. No, he was right there. 579 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: And you mentioned Kat as a winner and you're just 580 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: taking me through all the plays Game four, where the 581 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 2: Spurse could have won this thing. Kat's fingertip stop of 582 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: the castle gameplay dunk that would have been an allue 583 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: dunk for sure to end it. He just looked like 584 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: he was right on pat. So I just want to 585 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: make sure I haven't already forgotten that, because one day 586 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 2: I probably will. 587 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: But Kat's ben Stiller will make you never forget. 588 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait to watch. 589 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: That other losers Wenby go On. 590 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 4: I think he's gonna feel like more of a loser 591 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 4: in the moment right now on Monday after winning the championship, 592 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 4: when we look back at his first finals appearance, if 593 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 4: he makes more, but at twenty two years old, he 594 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 4: went for twenty six a game, eleven rebounds to assist 595 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 4: the steel in three point six blocks. Like that's a 596 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 4: pretty decent performance for your first time in the NBA 597 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 4: five on Finals. But he wasn't the best player the 598 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 4: majority of the time. He was the best player in 599 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 4: a game once they needed at least four to be 600 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 4: able to win the title. He wore down over games. 601 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 4: He was exposed as not having a go to move 602 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 4: or an in between game in these fourth quarters, and 603 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 4: he had two massive failures the butt pass and the 604 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 4: miss free throws in game four. He can also throw in. 605 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 4: He missed nine free throws during the entirety of the finals. 606 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 4: That's not very many. Five of them were in fourth quarters. 607 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 4: It did feel a little quaky at times for Victor Webbanyama. 608 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 4: So look, I will I think this guy could go 609 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 4: down in history as the greatest of all time. This 610 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 4: was not the greatest of all time performance in the finals. 611 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 4: This was a slightly scared twenty two year old and 612 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 4: I didn't think that that was going to be the 613 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 4: case for him. But a minor loser for Victor Webbanyama. 614 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. If he was paired with somebody running 615 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: the show ball handling, maybe it's different and know just 616 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: who's doing it in a better way. Because I mean, 617 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: we talked about Harper, we talk about Fox, I mean 618 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: ster fog Castle literally has to also develop a go 619 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: to move because he was lacking that. If you look 620 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: at the numbers, there's a lot of games not good 621 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: or he wasn't there. So it's not just about getting felled, 622 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: it's about being able to find that balance. So there's that, 623 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 2: But why Wemby was sitting at times, may have been like, 624 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: like you were talking about why he sat early in 625 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: the second quarter of Game five, maybe because he isn't 626 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: number one having played all these games before, but number 627 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 2: two just not durable enough. And he did talk about 628 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: that after Game five. He said, I've got to be 629 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: more durable, essentially, and that's part of it, I guess, 630 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: I mean, and maybe that's why free throws are missed 631 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. I mean, that's probably just nerves 632 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: more likely than actual not being able to shoot a 633 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: free throw, but fourth quarters are bad. 634 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: He's also going to need to learn how to control 635 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: his temper a little bit here too. I mean, these 636 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: teams and these players, they know the best way to 637 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: try and rattle him is to be physical with him, 638 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: get under his skin. And he showed a couple times 639 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: at least that he's especially the nasried elbow, which was 640 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: blatantly like get the hell off me and clock them, 641 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: and a couple other incidentss too, And I don't see 642 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: how it's gonna stop, because he's a freak and he's amazing, 643 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: and that's what teams are just gonna They're gonna implement 644 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: such things and he has to obviously handle that better, 645 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: and I think he will, like to me, this is 646 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: the best thing for the league to happen, Wemby and 647 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: the Spurs not winning this year, and I said that 648 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: when we headed into this final. It's like, I think 649 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 1: it's way more exciting for him to be stopped here 650 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: and not just anointed the goat of all the like, 651 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 1: oh my god, he's got one and he's gonna win 652 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: ten of these. 653 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 3: It's way better. He's got to like figure it out 654 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 3: and he's talking about it and as a team and 655 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: they're super young. 656 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: I like it. 657 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 3: I like this, like, wow, now this is now, this 658 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: is really scary to me. 659 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: If he really you will take this to heart and 660 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: how he has to get better and as the team 661 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: has to get better. So I think it's great for 662 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: the league that he didn't get it right now. That's 663 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: my personal opinion. 664 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we probably won't see him this summer all that much, 665 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: but I'm sure somebody will and should be making him 666 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: just videos of him meditating, even if it's not they're 667 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: not real, they'll be ai. But I mean, what he 668 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 2: basically said was I gotta keep a fresh mind and 669 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: maintain control of the game at all times, which basically 670 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 2: means stop hitting guys. Uh and yes, just lock in 671 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: type of things, so he will be doing what he's 672 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: got to do. 673 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you can the nas read elbow, that's the problem. 674 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 4: Flagrant wise, you can't throw one like that. You two points, Yep. 675 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 4: The accidentally hitting guys in the face, which is gonna 676 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 4: happen for Wemby. He's seven foot five. He's gonna hit 677 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 4: guys in the face. It's just gonna happen. He's gonna 678 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 4: pick up the little ones a lot. You can't get 679 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 4: the twos. 680 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: The twos are not allowed. And he and he can 681 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: meditate from that as well, not just boost the flag 682 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: flagrant point. 683 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 3: That's a good point. 684 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: He can meditate all he wants and that's fine, and 685 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: he will go do you but and you said it, trait. 686 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: He desperately needs a go to move he that has 687 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: to be like one of the main things he works on. 688 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: Whatever it is, like, is it a skyhook? 689 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 4: Is it you know? 690 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: Is it just more of a comfortable jumper which you 691 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: can get in any time. It's got He has to 692 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: get something because that's was he's obviously missing from his 693 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: repertoire here. Where when you get into these stern and 694 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: fourth quarters and we just need a bucket. First off, 695 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: you're not a point guard, so we got to get 696 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: you the ball first, and where are we getting. 697 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 5: It to you? 698 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 3: And where are you comfortable? So like that's what he 699 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: has to add. 700 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: I mean the guy should add this guy hook of 701 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: all the guys who would be awesome. 702 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, we haven't seen that. You say we're not 703 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: going to see him. I think we are. 704 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 4: We saw every single thing Wenby did last summer, and 705 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 4: then we got an article all about what he did 706 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 4: last summer heading into the playoffs. He does like to 707 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 4: have his training uh broadcast to the league. He's a 708 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 4: little stage managed. There's absolutely no Also tough to disappear 709 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 4: with your seven this guy, but like, go train with 710 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 4: a team, Go train with Dirk Novisky, go train honestly 711 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 4: with LaMarcus Aldridge. That guy's a spur. He loves a 712 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 4: mid range jumper. That would be the perfect guy for 713 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 4: me wannd me to lose from, to learn from. 714 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 5: I think, don't do that here? Can we can you 715 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 5: get me on your books learn from? 716 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 717 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 1: Or Dunkin of course too. I'm sure he's talked too. 718 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, we shall see. It'll be different I 719 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: think than last year where he was on camera at 720 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: all times. You mean he's said, he said, he's he 721 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: basically saying I'm done, I'm not coming back. Come on, 722 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: your French Canadian learn a word. 723 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: So what do you mean he's away. 724 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: He's not going to be away. 725 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: What do you mean he's not going to be away 726 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: just because there's I. 727 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: Mean there's no summer o limp. There's no basketball this 728 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: summer for like internationals. So yeah, that part will help 729 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: us not be top of mind. 730 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 731 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to do all those sort of the 732 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: tanks where he's just all by himself. I'm not just 733 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's going to bed to He obviously 734 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: has to do things where he has to become a 735 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: better basketball player. But I don't think it's just going 736 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: to be filmed as much. That's all okay. And he 737 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 2: just definitely doesn't want to talk to the media like 738 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: like like Timmy Duncan. I mean he's kind of yeah 739 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: enough I think at this point, but he's always good 740 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: with the media either way. Whatever, He's going to be 741 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: a better basketball player. Come. 742 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 3: Yes, he's twenty years old. 743 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: He's not even to his prime yet and he's already 744 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: the best defensive player in the league, maybe of all 745 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: time on that end. But a lot of growth still 746 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: on the other end. And you know, I think we're 747 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: all expecting, oh, Spurs will be back. Why wouldn't they 748 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: be back, Wemby Castle Harper, look at the ages of 749 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,239 Speaker 1: these guys. Yes, but we've done that before with teams too. 750 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: We definitely did that with the the Young Thunder once 751 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: upon a time. 752 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 3: We developed Thunder last year. 753 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah too. Also, the Thunder probably would have 754 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: beat the Spurs if they were healthy, and then you know, 755 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: then it would have been like that would have been 756 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,239 Speaker 1: the correct amount of growth for the Spurs in your 757 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: one in the postseason. 758 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: But they jumped it. They beat the They beat the Thunder. 759 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 3: Injuries or not. 760 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 4: Any other losers, yeah, a lot of them. Kelvin Johnson, 761 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 4: big time loser. Looks like an eighty two game player, 762 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 4: not a sixteen game player. In the Draymond Parlance regular season, 763 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 4: Keldon Johnson thirteen a game on fifty one percent shooting. 764 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 4: In the playoffs, he averaged seven per game on forty 765 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 4: one percent shooting. Had twenty two total points in the finals. 766 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: Keldon Johnson is going to be a difficult Hey, he 767 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: won six Man of the Year trivia question like twenty 768 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: years from now. 769 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 3: I think we're gonna struggle with that one. 770 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, in part because of like, yeah, he really was 771 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: a disappearing act in the finals. 772 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 3: In the postseason for chunks of it. 773 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 4: He didn't have How many even double digit games did 774 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 4: he have in the playoffs? Very few, I would have 775 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 4: to imagine. 776 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 3: I can't really. There was never really like a big 777 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: Calden Johnson game. 778 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: The thing you're gonna remember most is like any like 779 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: pregame him, you know, yelling at Wemby and their their 780 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: little hype up as they push each other and yell 781 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: at each other and stuff like that. 782 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was that twenty point game against Minnesota. 783 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he destroyed Minnesota in the blowout for sure. Twenty one. 784 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 4: He had seven double digit games out at twenty three. 785 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 4: He just he just didn't look like a playoff guy. 786 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 4: That's all other losers. Trump next lost one game in 787 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 4: two months, and it was the one where the ultimate 788 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 4: Vibe runner showed up. 789 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 3: It's incredible. That's actually hilarious. 790 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 4: Tough break for that guy, but at least the UFC 791 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 4: card went off without a single hitch. Oh wait a second, 792 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 4: the biggest star retired on the stool and they were 793 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 4: delayed for an hour. 794 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 3: Nonetheless, he takes an L. SGA. 795 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 4: I think maybe gets a small L here. Everybody's better 796 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 4: than Jalen Brnst until it comes time to be better 797 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 4: than Jalen Brunson. SJA was not better than Jalen Brunson 798 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 4: against the Spurs, you know, I mean, Brunson was much 799 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 4: more effective against the very same defense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 800 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 4: And it's because he's got a three pointer. Brunson fourteen 801 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 4: for thirty six and five games. SGA went eight for 802 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 4: twenty eight in seven games. We said that we talked 803 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 4: about him, and that's probably Actually, if I'm thinking about 804 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 4: like the signature shot for Brunson from the finals, it's 805 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 4: probably in game four when he hits that step back 806 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 4: over Wemby. 807 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: That was huge. 808 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 3: That was huge. 809 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 4: Didn't even I think that didn't even tie the score 810 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 4: or get him with him one. I think it was 811 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 4: a four point game, got him within one, so that 812 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 4: was big time. So yeah, I mean, those are guys 813 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 4: that go about scoring in similar ways. They like to 814 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 4: play in the mid range. Crafty trying to draw free throws, 815 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 4: and Brunson was better at it than Sga was in 816 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 4: a similar scenario. And a couple other quick losers the 817 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 4: Brooklyn Nets. How is anybody ever going to be a 818 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 4: fan of this team? I saw Fred Katz writing up 819 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 4: how the Knicks are the only team that runs unopposed 820 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 4: in New York City. There is literally another basketball team 821 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 4: that plays in New York City. They had fifty years 822 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 4: to convert anybody to be Nets fans, couldn't do it, 823 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 4: And now everybody's going to be Knicks fans. 824 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole a whole other generation exact course. Yeah, exactly, 825 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 3: great because all the other sports, like there. 826 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 1: Are Mets fans to Yankees fans, yeah yeah, and even 827 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: Jets fans Jets, the Giants fans, Islanders and Rangers. 828 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. 829 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 4: Mets are a loser. The guy who picked every single 830 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 4: series right except for the finals. Yeah, that sucks for 831 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 4: that guy. 832 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 833 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: Did we ever find out if he would have won 834 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: a million dollars? 835 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 3: It was on the website. Oh but I don't know. 836 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 3: If I don't know, I don't know what the deal 837 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 3: is with that. 838 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: Damn. 839 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 3: You should have taken the Knicks tough and Jimmy Butler 840 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 3: Wiggans got a title, Cat got a title. 841 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 4: Sure, they were not the number one guy, and Jimmy 842 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 4: took his team to the finals twice, but they're the 843 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 4: only team to go to the finals twice in the 844 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 4: past nine years and not win it. 845 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 3: So Jimmy Butler, you gotta be a little bit. 846 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, And like Wiggins did play very, very well in 847 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: the Warriors championship run. Obviously Curry was the man, but 848 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: Wiggins was really good. And then Cat we went through 849 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: obviously an incredible postseason. Things turned around when they started 850 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: going through him. So yeah, they were They were instrumental. 851 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: There was that funny photo I saw it. It's it's 852 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: it's young a younger Wiggins, a younger Cat and a 853 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: younger Jimmy Butler. I remember that has the whole story. 854 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 2: Yep. 855 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: He took the scrubs and beat them in a practice. 856 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: Get these bums out of here. Can't win with these guys. 857 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: Well they ended up winning. Yeah, that's a good one. 858 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: You got any other ones? 859 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 2: No, all right? 860 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 3: It was great winners and losers from the NBA Finals. 861 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 3: You tell us what we missed? 862 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: There lots to pick from still, let us know in 863 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: the comments, let us know in the stream team or 864 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: on Spotify. We'll take a quick break and when we 865 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: come back, it's the honest trade season. 866 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 4: The biggest stage in world soccer is here and every 867 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 4: goal changes everything. 868 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 3: And now FanDuel is giving you a reason to root for. 869 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 4: Every single one, introducing every goal pays bet on a 870 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 4: match and get bonus bets for every goal scored in 871 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 4: that match. 872 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: One of the favorite Spain it's going today today, an 873 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 3: hour in a bit. That's right here in Atlanta, That's right, Yeah. 874 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 4: No, Lamina mal no odds for this guy to score 875 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 4: a goal, even though he is the best striker on 876 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 4: the Spanish national team him Apparently he's coming off the 877 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 4: bench even though he's fully healthy. 878 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 3: So give me Pedri at a plus one twenty five 879 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 3: to score or assist. 880 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 4: Okay, maybe it's Pedri I don't know, but I like 881 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 4: the way he plays in the midfield with his passing. Yah, 882 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 4: so I would love to see an assist. More goals 883 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 4: means more bonus bets. All you have to do is 884 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 4: turn on your token, visit FanDuel dot com to get started. 885 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 3: Now, let there be goals. 886 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: There was a lot of goals in the mini match yesterday, 887 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: it was a lot of goals match. I think it 888 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 1: was seven to one. Let there be goals, they said, 889 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: and there was. Is anybody going down to a World 890 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 1: Cup game here in atl I was looking at ticket prices. 891 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 3: There's still quite expensive a free ticket, I know. Yeah, 892 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 3: like even the worst game here. 893 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: In Atlanta's there the tickets. There's only five hundred dollars right. 894 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 3: Now, that's Upper Bowl. 895 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: It's fine, okay whatever, but yeah, it's still still pretty penny. 896 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 3: Wait second, Saudi Arabia used Pakistan or something like that. 897 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: It's like it's the cheap game like that. Yeah, ye, 898 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,959 Speaker 1: I had my eye on it. I got World Cup fever. 899 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 4: It's here. 900 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 3: I'm like, should I go? The answer is yes, we 901 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 3: should go, But yeah, I'm not going to go for 902 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 3: that much. 903 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah I don't. 904 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 3: I don't care that much. I'd rather go to a 905 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 3: Team USA watch party, which I will be doing there. 906 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 2: You go for sure. 907 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 3: What do you think about these hydration breaks? 908 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just another commercial, great stuff. 909 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 3: Literally, just an ad break. Yeah, it's ridiculous. They're playing 910 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 3: quarters now. 911 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, they do, they do, and they go away too commercial. 912 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: That's my favorite part if you wanted to sell me on, like, oh, 913 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: it's a hydration break brought to you by Power Raid. 914 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: But we stay here with the team and we taw 915 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: you know, we see the field and all that. That's 916 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 1: one thing they just like, yeah, they just cut away, 917 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 1: get a couple of commercials. 918 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 3: In, come on back. 919 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember. And when I advocated for basketball 920 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 2: is the shortest of the major sports, you know, outside 921 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 2: of soccer, people would say, hey, hey, what about soccer. 922 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 2: We played forty five minutes straight. Now they don't. 923 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm so sad, so so sad. Have you seen the 924 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have. I do like this addition to 925 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: the the referee cam. Oh yeah, this thing looks amazing. 926 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 4: These guys are on it because I'm like, they get 927 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 4: a great shot of every goal. I know, these are 928 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 4: the best rest in the world. 929 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 2: I think it's pretty cool to watch. The quality could 930 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 2: be better. 931 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 3: I thought, it's not bad. Guys heads on the guy's head. 932 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not. You know, it's not HD. 933 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 1: But it's cool, pretty amazing, It's awesome. It'll get better. 934 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: You're right, it will get better. 935 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 4: How do you like the technology of these for off sides? 936 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 4: I know you're a little worried about the NBA introducing 937 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 4: a lot of technology for their calls and the AI, 938 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 4: but like apparently they get sensors in the ball, so 939 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 4: it's pretty guys are off sides. 940 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 941 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 4: I love it that little thing they put up with, 942 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 4: like the cube and is it where the guy's shoulder 943 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 4: is or whatever. 944 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 3: I like that. 945 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 2: That's neat. 946 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, we love soccer. Soccer is great on berg. 947 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into this. According to the ringers 948 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: Bill Simmons, the Celtics reportedly made an offer to the 949 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: Bucks for Giannis last week. Boston has dove in to 950 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: use Bill Simmons term here on the Greek Freak sweepstakes. 951 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: This was a change in tune for Simmons, though, who 952 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: had previously reported that he heard Boston wasn't involved in 953 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,760 Speaker 1: trading free honest. Simmons said he doesn't know what changed 954 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: the Celtics' minds, but that they are now involved in 955 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: trying to deal for the two time MVP. I will 956 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: He didn't know what that deal looks like, but everybody 957 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: task assumes if they are in the mix. Here the 958 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: Celtics for you, honest. Then Jillen Brown's got to be 959 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: going either just back to Milwaukee or rerouted to a 960 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: third team, and then more picks and players going potentially 961 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:15,919 Speaker 1: to the Milwaukee Bucks. 962 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 3: So this is the new exciting part here. 963 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: I guess a lot of Yannis to Miami talk, which 964 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: we've gone through, but maybe the Celtics are making a play. 965 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: Do you buy any of this or is this like, 966 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: is this maybe Milwaukee just trying to like drum up 967 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: more from the Miami Heat these type of rumors. 968 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 2: I'm starting to buy the three way deal with Boston 969 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 2: a little bit more rather than Milwaukee just taking back 970 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, because then it starts to resemble a team 971 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 2: looking forward to the future, getting young players from a 972 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 2: team like Atlanta. Potentially moving Jalen Brown to Atlanta. That 973 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 2: sort of makes more sense, along with some picks or 974 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,439 Speaker 2: even the Pelicans young players and picks coming back. Ira 975 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 2: Wnderman reporting that as two possibilities. Yeah, But the other 976 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 2: side is does Nis want to go to Boston. I mean, 977 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 2: it's a far bigger market than Milwaukee, obviously, but it 978 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 2: ain't Miami. And we could say Yanis, we could say 979 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 2: Yanis is a loser of the NBA Finals because of 980 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 2: the Knicks win, they don't need Yannis anymore. So that's 981 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 2: a part of it. But it's not just the size 982 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 2: of the market. They want a championship two years ago 983 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. Does he want to be part 984 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 2: of that team? Does he want to pull a Durant 985 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 2: esque type of thing. Maybe maybe not, Maybe he's totally 986 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 2: fine with that. But I think this is a three 987 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 2: team deal. I think that, you know, we put a 988 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 2: deal together for strictly for Jalen Brown, Hugo Gonzalez. It's 989 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 2: Ugo Gonzales and a twenty twenty seven first round pick 990 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 2: on May fifteen to put that together, maybe a second 991 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 2: round pick and maybe a second first round pick. But 992 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 2: is that what the Milwaukee Bucks want to be? I 993 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 2: think that's a fair question. Maybe they want to get 994 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 2: a third team involved to get more younger players, because 995 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 2: Jilen Brown, as good as he is, he's not super 996 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 2: young at twenty nine right now. You know you're going 997 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: to be thirty soon, and so then what is the 998 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 2: horizon for the Milwaukee Bucks. How good are they going 999 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 2: to be? I think that instead of getting also picks 1000 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 2: from the Celtics, which ain't going to be very good, picks, 1001 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 2: you turn around and give it Jalen Brown to like 1002 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 2: a Hawks or Pelicans. You get younger, better picks. So 1003 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 2: that's where I see. I see some resemblance there of 1004 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 2: a deal that could happen. 1005 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree that if Boston gets involved in the 1006 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 4: Jannis deal, Jalen Brown will go to a third team. 1007 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense for him to go to Milwaukee. 1008 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 4: And all the reporting seems to make it out that 1009 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 4: the Bucks want picks more so than they want players. 1010 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 4: But my reaction was the same as you skeets. It 1011 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 4: was like, I know Boston was out of this. Yeah, 1012 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 4: that's what Simmons said, That's what Windhorse said, That's what 1013 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 4: Zach Lowe said. But then we get the news that 1014 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 4: the Heat are in the lead here and you look 1015 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 4: at their package and you're like, it ain't that great 1016 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 4: Tyler hero coo where and then some sort of combo 1017 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 4: of Hawkes, Larsen and Yakachonas plus their picks like that 1018 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 4: could be beat by quite a few teams outside of Miami, 1019 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 4: like the Celtics obviously could throw in Jalen Brown, the 1020 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 4: Magic could offer Paulo Bancaro if they really want to 1021 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 4: get in the mix the Timberwolves could offer Jaden McDaniels. 1022 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 4: I don't know where you put him compared to Tyler Hero. 1023 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 4: McDaniels is more of a finishing piece to me. Perhaps Nonetheless, 1024 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 4: there are teams that could beat the Heat. All. The reporting, though, 1025 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 4: does say Jannis wants to go to Boston because they 1026 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 4: can pull off the trade and still have a good 1027 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 4: team loft, So that's interesting to me. But it feels 1028 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 4: like a leverage play from the Bucks here, driving up 1029 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 4: the offers because they're like, we could trade for Tyler 1030 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 4: Hero anytime we want. They could have traded for Tyler 1031 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 4: Hero last summer. Yeah, they could have traded for Tyler 1032 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 4: Hero at the deadline. They obviously don't want Tyler Hero 1033 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 4: that much. That's like a fallback deal to me, is 1034 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 4: what Miami is offering. So I do buy the Boston 1035 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 4: is maybe kicking around the Jalen Brown of it all, 1036 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 4: And I don't necessarily know if that's what Milwaukee wants, 1037 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 4: but they want players of Jalen Brown's caliber to be 1038 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 4: bned so that they can get a better player back 1039 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 4: or be able to ship that guy out for more picks. 1040 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you that it just feels like 1041 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: this Miami Heat deal has been here for a while 1042 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: and the Bucks are like, what this is all they're offering. 1043 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,879 Speaker 1: It's really sort of all they can offer for being 1044 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: tripful too. Yeah, but they're just hoping and it's the 1045 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: last ditch sort of effort here as we get closer 1046 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 1: to the draft, which does seem to be one of 1047 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: their like I don't know deadlines that they have in 1048 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: mind here because they want to make said picks if 1049 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: they're getting twenty twenty six draft picks of like anything better, 1050 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 1: anything better? Anybody is Celtics. You don't want y honest, Boston, 1051 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 1: you don't want Yannis? Are you crazy? Look at those 1052 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: Jail and Brown twitch streams. Man, he's already wants out 1053 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,439 Speaker 1: of there. He wants his own team. Like they're like, yeah, 1054 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: trying to drum this up here. Maybe a third team involved. 1055 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: You guys went through them. I guess the Blazers are 1056 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: one of these potential third teams too, where Jaylen Brown 1057 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,320 Speaker 1: is rerouted and you know that would allow maybe Milwaukee 1058 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: to get their own picks back and stuff like that 1059 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: and a prospect or two. But that's what we're doing here. 1060 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: I think ultimately, still this ends with him going to Miami. 1061 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 3: I just don't. 1062 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, because like, how many of these teams 1063 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: are lining up for your honest too, with his with 1064 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: his age and his contract and his unfortunate injury history, 1065 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: which we've gone over a million times. We don't need 1066 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 1: to beat a dead horse. But the guy is gonna 1067 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: be eligible here for a two hundred and seventy five 1068 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: million dollars contract extension and unfortunately has just not been 1069 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: healthy for the last couple of years. It's a hell 1070 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: of a gamble, Like, like, what do you like, Let's 1071 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: just look at it from the Celtics side of things. 1072 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown out obviously a young player or two and 1073 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: then draft capital are you doing it? 1074 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 3: No brainer? 1075 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: The upgrade is Giannis over jailing? Or like, how much 1076 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: of an upgrade. 1077 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 2: Is that to you? 1078 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: Of where they are in their current careers? 1079 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 4: Is it? 1080 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 2: It's a fair question. It's scary with Janni's health, it's 1081 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 2: it's legitimately scary. Yeah, I think that's an internal question 1082 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 2: for them. Did Jalen Brown not want to be here? 1083 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 2: It's sure, even though he went on twitch and blah 1084 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 2: blah blah. You know, this was my favorite season, even 1085 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 2: though we literally got bounced in the first round. I 1086 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 2: think that's an internal question for them. If he still 1087 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 2: wants to be there, you probably hang on to what 1088 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,359 Speaker 2: you got because this may have just been too late 1089 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 2: for the Milwaukee Bucks to get a good package back 1090 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 2: for Gastankola. They waited too long another year with a 1091 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 2: calf injury, banking on a year before that, with a 1092 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 2: calf injury, banking on a year before that where he 1093 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 2: was out in the playoffs. So there's just too much 1094 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 2: of that happening. So it's a fair question. Yannis are 1095 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 2: Jalen Brown. That's a fair question. If Joan Brown wants 1096 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 2: to be there, I think you stick with it, and 1097 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 2: you stick with the Jalen. 1098 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,760 Speaker 4: I would trade him. Ghannest is clearly the better player 1099 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,959 Speaker 4: than Jalen Brown. Is just the injuries that are the risk. 1100 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 4: But you know what else is a risk is bringing 1101 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 4: back Tatum and Brown and losing the same way that 1102 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 4: they have lost the past couple of years. And that's 1103 00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 4: what Brad Stevens said in his end of season press 1104 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 4: conference is like, we can't keep doing this. We need 1105 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 4: to put pressure on the rim. That's literally what Yannis does. 1106 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 4: He is the rim for the most part. I don't 1107 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 4: know if it raises the Celtics to the Knicks level, 1108 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 4: but I think throwing Yannis onto a Celtics team makes 1109 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 4: it an interesting matchup for New York and gives them 1110 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 4: the Celtics a lot more on the inside, which they 1111 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,399 Speaker 4: haven't really had since peak Porzingi's health. 1112 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 3: You know. 1113 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 4: I think you look at the way that their center 1114 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 4: rotation fell apart in the playoffs, with Cada and Garza 1115 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 4: and vuch not even being able to get on the court. 1116 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 4: Jannis is a pretty good center upgrade there, even if 1117 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 4: that's only his second position on the Celtics. So there's 1118 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 4: definitely worries about his age and the way he's able 1119 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 4: to stay healthy. But I think the ceiling is higher 1120 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 4: with this version of the Celtics, not comparing him to 1121 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four when they were loaded with an all 1122 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 4: star basically every position. Yeah. 1123 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, question with Giannis is do I need to sign 1124 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:07,359 Speaker 2: a max extension as part of this trade, because then 1125 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 2: you're literally adding we're talking five years of Jannis, right, 1126 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 2: it's the one plus the four, A lot of money 1127 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 2: for a guy who hasn't been able to sustain it. 1128 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 2: So that's a fair question. 1129 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1130 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: For those that don't know, Jannis is going to make 1131 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: fifty eight point five million dollars next season and has 1132 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: a sixty two point eight million dollar player option for 1133 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty eight. But he's eligible this offseason 1134 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: for this two hundred and seventy five million dollar extension. 1135 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 2: It's six months after he's traded, right, I think so, yes, 1136 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 2: So he could sign it with Milwaukee in October, but 1137 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 2: he has to wait six months after being traded to 1138 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 2: sign it with that team. So I guess there's the injury. 1139 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 2: If he gets injured, then you don't have to sign 1140 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 2: it to the extension in a bad way. 1141 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 1: But do you agree if Jannis is like on board 1142 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: with I guess either of these Miami or Boston, and 1143 00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: we sort of have an idea of what the return 1144 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: would be and the players going out and what would 1145 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: be left on said rosters. Do you think, yeah, of 1146 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: course it would be a no brainer to go to 1147 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: Boston if you're honest, for your chances to win that 1148 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 1: second title compared to what would be left in Miami. 1149 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 2: Oh, no question, okay, yeaheah, yeah, you're playing with a 1150 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 2: side Tatum. The only thing that Miami is not trading 1151 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 2: is Baman a Baio and that's who you'd be playing 1152 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 2: with the honest? Are they a top three or four 1153 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 2: team the East? Yeah? Yeah, but still with it, that's 1154 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 2: a fair question with Indiana coming up with the Knicks, 1155 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 2: uh three four, that's where they would be. Yeah, it's 1156 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 2: not incredible, it's not incredible. 1157 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: And you agree with that obviously that for his best 1158 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 1: chances in the immediate future to win another title, Yeah, I. 1159 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 4: Think yes, I mean the he haven't won a playoff 1160 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 4: series in a while, always in the play in tournament. 1161 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 4: I think if they add Giannis and they have to 1162 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 4: trade away all these support pieces around them, obviously they 1163 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 4: would be able to get good veterans who are, you know, 1164 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 4: towards the end of their career being in Miami getting 1165 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 4: to play with Bam and Yannis, so they'll be able 1166 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 4: to fill out their team. But they seem like like 1167 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 4: Tasa is saying, maybe maybe a third seed, I don't know, 1168 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,919 Speaker 4: like the Knicks would be ahead of them. I would 1169 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 4: take the current Celtics, like if the if they stick 1170 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 4: with Brown and Tatum, like that team's going to be 1171 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 4: good when Jason Tatum's healthy for a whole season. Detroit 1172 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 4: just won sixty games. The Cabs are going to bring everybody, 1173 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 4: well who knows what the Cats they're going to do, 1174 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 4: but they're at least a good regular season. 1175 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 1: Magic could be healthy. 1176 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, So I don't necessarily think that just Yannis 1177 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 4: plus Bam plus whatever random vets they get. 1178 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 3: Probably is like a home court first round team. Well, 1179 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 3: let's hear from everybody out there, how tired of you 1180 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 3: are the honest trade rumors? Does this happen? Does this 1181 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 3: happen this week or before? Obviously the draft night is on? 1182 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,439 Speaker 3: Is it on Tuesday? Next week? 1183 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:49,800 Speaker 4: It is? 1184 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we plan on doing. 1185 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: A live watch party here from the Classic Factory for 1186 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: the actual draft, So come kick it with us on 1187 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 1: Tuesday night. 1188 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, does it go down. 1189 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: Then, you know, it does feel like it's coming soon. 1190 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 1: If we believe Jimmy Haslam here and this idea that 1191 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 1: they would want said picks and select players with said 1192 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: picks from the twenty six draft to be a lot 1193 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,880 Speaker 1: of future picks, I get that. But yeah, yeah, and 1194 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 1: we know they're doing it. They're trading them. Even task 1195 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 1: Melis believes this is being. 1196 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 2: Struck around the year. He just said I'm sticking around 1197 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 2: this year. It happened. Now he's gone. Now, it is 1198 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 2: interesting to think about what the packages were four months 1199 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 2: ago or a year ago, when all those Knicks rumors 1200 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 2: were hot, right right, and Leon Rose did not pulled 1201 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 2: the trigger in New York. So you know he's going 1202 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 2: to be excited when the trade happens. He'd be like, yeah, 1203 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 2: I didn't do that. 1204 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: Good move, obviously, Jesus, that'd be the ballsiest move of 1205 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: all time. Win the championship and go, you know what, 1206 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 1: let's trade for you, honest. Now, jeez, we were really flirting. 1207 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 5: Uh, you know, they've won this thing off friendship and family, 1208 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,399 Speaker 5: and he's like, fuck your family, fuck your friends, get 1209 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 5: out of here. 1210 00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 3: We're going to get you, honest man. It'd be ballsy ball. 1211 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,399 Speaker 3: He's got the title. Nobody a question. 1212 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 1: I know it was right, He's got the bits, he's 1213 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 1: got the bites touch. Okay, let's call it there. A 1214 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: fun little Monday show for you again. Go check out 1215 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 1: Sunday's podcast. We did do a podcast yesterday recap in 1216 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: Game five and the Knicks championship and all that. If 1217 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 1: you didn't catch that otherwise, we're back on Wednesday, unless 1218 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: Jannis gets traded here. We will be around for emergency 1219 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: podcasts back on Wednesday, probably hitting the beach, So send 1220 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 1: in your questions no dunks, inc. That's I n C 1221 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. You can drop them in the 1222 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:35,280 Speaker 1: YouTube comments as well. Giannis related, Draft related, Finals related, obviously, 1223 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 1: any of these teams projecting as we go into the 1224 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 1: off season. Let us know and probably we'll talk maybe 1225 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: a little bit more Spurs, I guess on that show. Otherwise, 1226 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us till then, Clipper Brew you. 1227 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 3: Heard it here first, have a great time, turn up. 1228 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome. 1229 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember check out some wedgies 1230 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 2: on YouTube tomorrow. We don't have it yet. I mean 1231 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,240 Speaker 2: we do, but we don't, but we do anyway. Weggie's 1232 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 2: on YouTube race today. 1233 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 3: People,