1 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to playmakers. Everyone. I'm your host, Haley Elwood. It 2 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: is Week thirteen and the Los Angeles Chargers will wrap 3 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: up their series against the Las Vegas Raiders this week 4 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: in Vegas. So joining me to talk about this matchup 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: and to welcome her back to Chargers properties. We'll get 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: to that in a second is Raiders Digital Managing Editor 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: Rachel Goss. And Rachel, thanks for joining me, Thanks for 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: having me. It's great to be with you. So I 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: make the joke about welcoming you back because for those 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: who may not know you were with us back in 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, you were eight Chargers digital content assistant, contributing writer, 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: did everything under the sun. You've now joined the likes 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: of Gus Bradley, Denzel Perriman, Casey Hayward, former Chargers legends 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: who then became Raiders legends. So we are so happy 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: for you, but welcome back. It's kind of fun to 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: talk about this game with you. It is. It's exciting. 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: That's a long list of names that I don't know 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: if I've I rank up there yet with them, but 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: very exciting. I always love Chargers versus Raiders. Just it 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: brings back memories from me, but also new ones and 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: new exciting things that are going to happen. Yeah, that's 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: kind of the cool part. Before we actually get to 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: this game. I just have one quick question and that 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: is for someone who maybe you know, this is kind 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: of rare to have someone who spend time in the 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: team space and then went to another team. What is 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: maybe the biggest thing, really quick, just right off the top, 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: just job wise, about maybe what you've learned in transitioning 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: from franchise to franchise, maybe going from you know, assistant 30 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: now full time. Yeah, it's it's kind of interesting that 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: just seeing the way that teams run their organizations, because 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: a lot some of it is different, but of a 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: lot of it is the same. We're all here trying 34 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: to stack wins, get wins, and make the best content 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: that we can for fans. And yeah, it's just exciting 36 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: to see like what they do on the field and 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: how we can translate that into content and getting it 38 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: out there for people. And I learned a lot like 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: working at the Chargers under you, especially as like a 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: woman in this space, it was really just exciting to 41 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: watch like how you managed everything in a full time capacity. 42 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: And I've you know, try to replicate some of that 43 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: now because I feel like you really taught me a lot. 44 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate that you were awesome. Like I said, you 45 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: were such a rock star for us back then, and 46 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: we were bummed to lose you, but so happy for 47 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: you and where you are right now despite the AFC 48 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: West ravelry. But I always like to say, the Raiders 49 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: have some of my favorite people in the NFL. So 50 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: you're now just at it. But we get to see 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: each other twice a year, so let's say exactly all right, 52 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: So speaking of twice a year, this is the second matchup, 53 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: as I said, between these two teams this season. You 54 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: mentioned it. You've been on both sides. You've been on 55 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: the Chargers side, you're now on the Raiders side. We 56 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: always talk about these games being weird. They always are. 57 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: From your perspective, what is your feeling every time these 58 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: two teams meet? Oh man, I always know that it's 59 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: gonna be just not normal, like something's gonna happen, if 60 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: it's over time, if it's just like some weird play 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: that happened, it's just it's it's gonna be crazy and 62 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be an interesting game. Always like You're never 63 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: going to be bored watching these games. It's true. It's 64 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: entirely true. And I know that the Chargers and the 65 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Raiders both played NFC West teams last week and it 66 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: got weird again for both of them, but both teams 67 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: walked out with a win. For you, guys, For the Raiders, 68 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: it hasn't always been easy this season, but you're on 69 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: a two game win streak. How are the Raiders now 70 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: a different team than when the Chargers last saw them 71 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: in Week one? That is a massive time difference right there. 72 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: It is. And I think week one, especially when you 73 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: have a new coach, you're really still kind of in 74 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: that phase of like this is a new system. We're 75 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: figuring this out, trying to nail down like what your 76 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: identity is and who this team is going to become, 77 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: which I think they've really started to find especially last week. 78 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you saw the offense just absolutely explode, especially 79 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs. But you look back at week one and 80 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: at that point, you know, everybody's fresh. Right now, we 81 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: don't have Hunter Renfro, we don't have Darren Wall. There's 82 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: a lot of injuries on both sides, the Chargers as well, 83 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: so it is two very different teams because a lot 84 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: has happened since then, but a lot has also been 85 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: figured out. Like week one, we are still kind of 86 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: in that mode of like what does the oh I 87 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: look like? Trying out different packages, different people. Now it 88 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: feels a little more set. It seems to be working 89 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: with Josh's three hundred and three yard game last week, 90 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: so it seems like we've kind of figured it out 91 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: and the confidences is really there. Yeah, And I think 92 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: that's something that as you sort of turned to this game, 93 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: maybe earlier in the season, the Chargers would have looked 94 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: at this game and been like, oh, this is maybe 95 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: a guaranteed win. But the Raiders, as you mentioned it, 96 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: have gotten kind of figured some things out as of late. 97 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: And we always know these divisional games are so different 98 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: and weird things happen, as we mentioned it. But in 99 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: speaking of one of those players you brought up, Josh 100 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Jacobs had an insane game last week, over three insane 101 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: over three hundred total yards. He put on a show. 102 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: I know that there's reports he's dealing with a calf 103 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: strain right now, and we won't necessarily get into that, 104 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: but when he has been healthy and specifically, maybe look 105 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: in a last week what has been working so well 106 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: for him as of late. Yeah, I think he'd be 107 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he's putting in the work running those yards, 108 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: and it's insane that, you know, he was questionable going 109 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: to that game last week and then put up that 110 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: kind of performance and it really shows like the heart 111 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: that he has, like he loves this game. Coach McDaniel said, 112 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: like the best compliment he could give him is he's 113 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: a football player. You know, he has a passion, he 114 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: has the heart, and he wants to go out there 115 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: and help his team win. But he'll Josh wall Is 116 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: also be the first to tell you that it's credit 117 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: to the O line and credit to a lot of 118 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: these guys who have helped him get those holes, make 119 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: those holes for him to run through so he can 120 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: get there and make these really big plays, these first downs. 121 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: So I think it's you know, it's really just jelling. 122 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: You know, like we talked about that the O line 123 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: has kind of found itself. They're jelling. That helps Josh Jell, 124 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: it helps Derek Gell, and it really gets the offense going. 125 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: When Josh Jacobs does get going. What kind of dynamic 126 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: does he add to that offense overall? It's crazy. It's 127 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: crazy that you know you have Devanta Adam, but then 128 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: you have like a Josh Jacob's break up game. You 129 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: have like one of the best receivers in the league, 130 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: but it's like it wasn't him that popped off this game, 131 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: it was Josh. And so it's just cool to see 132 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: all the different like I don't know the word I'm 133 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: looking for, but just the different options that can happen, 134 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: and it just makes things really interesting because you don't 135 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: know whose day it's gonna be. Yeah, And that's kind 136 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: of the crazy thing too. Even despite the injuries that 137 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: you have mentioned, it does sort of seem to ebb 138 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: and flow. And one of those things just when I 139 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: was doing research for this game is I didn't realize 140 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: Vante Adams has ten touchdowns on the season, because I 141 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: think sometimes you look at maybe some of the losses 142 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: and you think, oh, they're not scoring, but they are. 143 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: He's got ten. How has he grown in this offense 144 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: since coming in this year. I think it's well, I 145 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: don't know if you can really grow when you're one 146 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: of the top receivers like he is as advertised, But 147 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: I mean, he's had five or six one hundred yard 148 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: receiving games so far this season, which is just massive. 149 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: And I think we've really seen the trust of him 150 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: and Derek are like going back to college. You know, 151 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: we've always heard them talk about like like I've never 152 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: seen I watched highlights of Fresno State. I never saw 153 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: them live in their college years. But you imagine like 154 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: how that must have felt like watching them, and now 155 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: you get to see it live in the league and crazy. Yeah, 156 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: And I think you know, maybe early on or I 157 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: was watching obviously the Chargers played the rate excuse me, 158 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: the Cardinals last week and they were talking about Kyler 159 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: Murray in Marquis Brown and maybe the bond that they 160 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: had previously had and but you forget, it's been a 161 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: long time since the two of them last played together. 162 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,119 Speaker 1: And I think you could say the same about Derek 163 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: Carr and Davante. But as the scenes and has gone on, 164 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: they've seemed to strengthen their bond. Is that would would 165 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: that be something that you would sort of take and say, 166 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: having watched them throughout this year so far, I would 167 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: I think we also have to consider, like they've been 168 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: in this league for nine years and they've been you know, 169 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: out of Davante has been in Green Bay and like 170 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: their system, Derek's been out here. They haven't played together 171 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: in nine years. Even though they've been training together and 172 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: the off season, that's not really the same as like 173 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: replicating an actual game. So it was kind of finding 174 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: I mean, week when Davante still had I think one 175 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: hundred four years receiving yards, which was really like for 176 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: Raiders fans, was like his Davante Adams moment. But we've 177 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: really seen them kind of grow as they get more 178 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: comfortable in McDaniel's system and they're figuring it out together 179 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: and building upon not trust that they had in college 180 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: and just making it off the charts up to the league, 181 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: like league level. What kind of maybe impact has a 182 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: guy like Davante Adams had on the rest of the offense. 183 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: Knowing this is such an established veteran, one of the 184 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: top receivers in the league now coming into a brand 185 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: new team but sort of having to sort of almost 186 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to say, like remake his mark, but 187 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: kind of in a way because he's sort of starting 188 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: fresh and starting over. I think it's been really great 189 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: for some of the younger receivers like Mac Collins. I 190 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: know he's talked a lot about he's always picking Davante's brain, 191 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: like he knows that Davante's like he's shown out and 192 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: so he knows he has everything to learn from him. 193 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: And even Hunter for It said that, like Hunterman from 194 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl last year, and Davante said he 195 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: learns things from these guys. So it's all I think, 196 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: just that receiver room is like it's what you know 197 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: and what you can share with each other, and that 198 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: really just helps each other grow, because that's kind of 199 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: the goal, right you don't really it's a team sport. 200 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: You're not focused on your own stats and yourself. You 201 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: want everyone to be on the same level, everyone as 202 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: best as they can. So absolutely so. Now flipping to 203 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: the defense, Max Crosby certainly made his presence felt against 204 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: the Seahawks last week. We mentioned this Raiders team. They're 205 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: on a two game win streak. Both wins have coming 206 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: over time, right, yeah, yes, yeah, crazyness. But defensively, how 207 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: has that unit maybe been key to this sort of 208 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: turnaround as of late. Yeah, I mean kind of like 209 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: the offense again, it's a defense that's learning a new system. 210 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: It has taken time. They've had a lot of new 211 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: players on that side of the ball, so it's taken 212 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: time to kind of adjust. But Max is really, I think, 213 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: the heart of the defense. Like he also plays with 214 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: so much passion, just like Josh j really loves a 215 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: game of football. Also became a father this season, and 216 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: I think that might give him a little more juice 217 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: to play, having a little baby girl. But he he's 218 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: always there in the big moments. I saw we saw 219 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: last week that the overtime stop on the Seahawks, and 220 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: it was just like he's he is there, and I 221 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: think that kind of powers the rest of the defensive 222 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: players who have really stepped up. We saw a lot 223 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: of great great stuff on the interior defensive line, like 224 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Andrew Billings last week. I think he notched half a sack, 225 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: maybe a full one. But it was just like Max 226 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: brings the juice, he brings the energy that's just gonna 227 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: heighten everyone else's very much. That Derwin James figure. If 228 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: you turn it back to this team, someone who that 229 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: was a rookie season, that was essentially your rookie season 230 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: with us too. Yes, rookies together, rookies together exactly. All right, 231 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: final question for you, as we say, these games are 232 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: always strange, they're always weird. They're always exciting though, that 233 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: is the one thing. But what is maybe a factor 234 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: that you see could you know, play a role in 235 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: how this game plays out? I mean, just looking at 236 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: last week's games, they both came down to the wire, 237 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: and I think that could happen again. This could be 238 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: another shootout, This could be you know, just something that's 239 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: gonna be like, Oh my gosh, who's gonna score? Whose 240 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: house is gonna play out? We don't know until there's 241 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: two seconds left. And I think really to get to 242 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: that is going to be limiting mistakes and limiting penalties 243 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: because that could play a factor and how this turns 244 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: out in the end is you know, if you're making 245 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: penalties early on, it might come back to bite you. Yeah, 246 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: playing clean football obviously a key. Rachel. We appreciated it 247 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: is so good to talk to you, so good to 248 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: see you. I know we saw yeah, you were there 249 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: in week one. I know we saw each other at 250 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: the draft. But at least you've stayed in division, which 251 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: is fun to be able to still catch up. But 252 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: we appreciate you coming on and train some insight. Thank 253 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: you and we'll see you on Sunday. Thanks Rachel,