WEBVTT - TechStuff Leaps Into Hyperspace

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tex stuff from dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>He there text stuff fans. This is Jonathan Strickland and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Lauren Wold OBAM and today we want to present

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<v Speaker 1>you a little drama. So I will be taking on

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<v Speaker 1>a roll and Lauren will be taking on a roll

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<v Speaker 1>and this plays into what we'll be talking about today.

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<v Speaker 1>So here we go, man, red leather, yellow leather, red leave,

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<v Speaker 1>yellow leather. All right, here we go, Han Solo, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>captain of the Millennium Falcon. Chewy here tells me you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for passage to the Alboron system. Yes, indeed, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fast ship fast ship, You've never heard of

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<v Speaker 1>the Millennium Falcon, should I have? It's the ship that

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<v Speaker 1>made the Kessel run in less than twelve parsecs. I've

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<v Speaker 1>outrun Imperial starships, not the local bulk cruisers mind you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the big Karelian ships. Now, she's fast

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<v Speaker 1>enough for you, old man? What's the cargo? Usually I

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<v Speaker 1>am the one calling you old man. Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to turn that around a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I also didn't go full Christopher walk In, despite the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that I love that Saturday Night Live skit. So

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<v Speaker 1>we are talking about the Kessel Run and hyper drives

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<v Speaker 1>in the Star Wars universe and uh, and then kind

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<v Speaker 1>of comparing it to what we would like to call

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<v Speaker 1>real life. Right. We're doing this, by the way, because

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<v Speaker 1>this is our five first episode and we are we

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<v Speaker 1>we are big fans of the five of first legion.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, That's right, that's the Uh. This is props

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<v Speaker 1>going out to our Star Wars buddies. So you five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and first members out there, this one's for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So now, in the original context, we need to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about what the Kessel Run is within the mythology of

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars, all right, and it's not really mentioned in

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<v Speaker 1>um in any of the three original films, right, or

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<v Speaker 1>even the fictional prequels that supposedly exist. No, we should

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<v Speaker 1>also point out, according to everything I've ever read, Lucas

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<v Speaker 1>considered anything that was in the movies cannon correct. Anything

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<v Speaker 1>outside the movies was just extra stuff that may or

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<v Speaker 1>may not line up with what is canon. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>no um. You know, the stuff that we'll be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of this is things that other writers

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<v Speaker 1>have kind of expounded upon in in the novels. Are

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<v Speaker 1>the comics and of the video games, yeah, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the cartoons, etcetera. And so the stuff that we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this is this is mostly people trying to explain

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<v Speaker 1>away what Lucas created in a in a manner that

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<v Speaker 1>makes kind of sense, because a lot of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that you watch in Star Wars, if you really think about,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, wait a minute, it's not science. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Kessel Run in particular is a route in Star Wars,

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<v Speaker 1>at least this is the way it's explained. In the

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<v Speaker 1>Expanded Universe. It's it's a smuggling run, right, which is

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you know. Han Solo is a smuggler, and

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<v Speaker 1>so this is a particular route through space that smugglers

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<v Speaker 1>would take. And uh. And one of the big complaints

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<v Speaker 1>or criticisms of this particular section of dialogue is that

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<v Speaker 1>Han Solo talks about doing a Kessel Run in less

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<v Speaker 1>than twelve parts x, which seems to suggest that he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks par sex is a measure of time, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not, and it's it's certainly not, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that my my strongest um explanation of this

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<v Speaker 1>is just that Han Solo was just saying words he

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<v Speaker 1>was just talking and trying to sound impressive. My my

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<v Speaker 1>explanation is Lucas thought that parsex sounded futuristic and that

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like a measurement of time. That was mine,

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<v Speaker 1>which puts the onus on the writer, not the character.

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<v Speaker 1>But hey, you know, I'm a writer. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>how I think. Like sometimes I make mistakes too. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying that if you're going to excuse the character saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that that is not a poor right

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to be an apologist. Sure, So, so

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<v Speaker 1>what a what a par sec actually is? It is

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<v Speaker 1>a unit of distance. It technically based upon uh the

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<v Speaker 1>uh the Sun and Earth and and and a second

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<v Speaker 1>of arc uh. It involves some pretty complex uh concepts

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<v Speaker 1>that are not that complex, but they're difficult to explain

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<v Speaker 1>an audio format. But ultimately it translates to about three

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<v Speaker 1>point to six light years, right, And and it's specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, tied to to the distance of the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun from the Earth and another object and another object

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<v Speaker 1>that makes up one sec. And so you know, forgiving

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we're talking about a galaxy far far away,

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<v Speaker 1>and that perhaps as a phil plate of that astronomer

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out that might not be the most valid measurements.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would think why would another why would people in

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<v Speaker 1>another galaxy use a unit of measurement that's dependent upon

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth's position relative to another object and the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes no sense at all. But anyway, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's equivalent to about three point to six light years,

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<v Speaker 1>And of course that just makes things even more confusing

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<v Speaker 1>for people who don't know what a light year is

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<v Speaker 1>and they think light year is also a measurement of time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not. But at any rate, the description Han Solo

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<v Speaker 1>makes is very confusing if you think about parsecs being

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<v Speaker 1>a distance, like, how can you take a route and

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<v Speaker 1>say that your ship made it in less than twelve

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<v Speaker 1>units of distance for that route and make that the

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<v Speaker 1>a measurement of its speed. So here's how we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try and explain this well. And also I should mention

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<v Speaker 1>uh in the novelization of a New Hope, Han Solo

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<v Speaker 1>does not say par sex recond that real quick. He

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<v Speaker 1>said standard time units twelve less than twelve standard time units.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea how long the standard time unit is,

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<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't really matter, I guess. But anyway, so

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<v Speaker 1>kessel run. You've got this route. It's usually if you

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<v Speaker 1>are taking the quote unquote safe approach, eighteen par sex long,

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<v Speaker 1>which is about years. Yeah. So the reason why it's

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<v Speaker 1>that long is because the route takes you through an

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<v Speaker 1>area of space that has black holes in it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called the mall and the maw in aw would destroy

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<v Speaker 1>a ship if you got too close to it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a black hole. There bad times for ships, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know you do? You have you heard

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<v Speaker 1>what the term is for something that gets pulled through

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<v Speaker 1>a black hole, the term of what is happening to

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<v Speaker 1>it spaganification. It's my favorite thing in the world, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because it gets pulled into these long, thin strands as

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<v Speaker 1>it's being uh infinitely thin strands hypothetically being pulled towards

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<v Speaker 1>this center of intense density or intensity as I like

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<v Speaker 1>to call it. Anyway. So usually this route would be

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen parsex long, but if one were to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little daring or perhaps insane, completely crazy, one might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to plot a route that goes closer to the

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<v Speaker 1>black holes. He kind of scarred around it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Han Solo, being the guy that he is, he's he says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, time is money or distance his money, or

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<v Speaker 1>money is money or something I don't know. Anyway, he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be able to take a more direct route,

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<v Speaker 1>which would shave off about six or so parsex for

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<v Speaker 1>this eighteen parsic long route, and that means that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's essentially instead of going like a curved line,

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<v Speaker 1>he's making a straight line. Not quite like that dramatic,

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<v Speaker 1>but close to it. So in other words, he's taking

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<v Speaker 1>a route and making it more efficient, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>much more dangerous. There's no direct relationship between the Millennium

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<v Speaker 1>Falcon's speed and this route immediately, but one could argue,

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<v Speaker 1>and one has. In fact, Kyle Hill of Wired wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a great article how the Star Wars Kessel run turns

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<v Speaker 1>Hans Solo into a time traveler. Fantastic articles. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>entertaining and uh and also and it starts to build

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<v Speaker 1>in some chronological problems in the Star Wars universe, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into those. But anyway, he points out that

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<v Speaker 1>that you could end up thinking, oh, well, the Millennium

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<v Speaker 1>Falcon has to be a fast ship because it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to escape that pull of the black hole.

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<v Speaker 1>So Therefore, that's what tells you that it's fast. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not only that heat and only is the pilot capable

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<v Speaker 1>of making a more efficient route to go through the

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<v Speaker 1>Kessel run, but there's also in a ship fast enough

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<v Speaker 1>to a state black roles, right right? Yeah, Well, according

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<v Speaker 1>to a Wikipedia, which is one of the best wikis ever,

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<v Speaker 1>I just said that on the air, it was wonderful. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>In the commentary for Star Wars episode for a New

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<v Speaker 1>Hope DVD, George Lucas said that the Millennium Falcons navigational

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<v Speaker 1>computers were highly advanced and that that was why the

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<v Speaker 1>parsic thing works out the way that it does. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's yeah. So essentially then you just make Han Solo

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<v Speaker 1>a Guo flips switches a really good flip switcher. There's

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<v Speaker 1>also a great thing that was at the Smithsonian for

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<v Speaker 1>the Star Wars exhibit where uh, Harrison Ford was actually

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the first time they shot uh seen in

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<v Speaker 1>the cockpit of the Millennium Falcon, and George Lucas gave

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<v Speaker 1>him the direction of your flying the ship and he says, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I do that? Because there are just all

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<v Speaker 1>these dials and switch is that they didn't. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no rhyme or reason to it. And Chus was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So there was buttons pull that lever

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<v Speaker 1>pushed the button Frank. So anyway you might wonder, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why what's the big deal of the Kestle run? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>was what was the significance? Like it's a smuggling route,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a smuggling route for what? And within the

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<v Speaker 1>lore again this again not film expanded universe, so not

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<v Speaker 1>Cannon Kessel was a planet that had these minds on

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<v Speaker 1>it for something called glitter stem spice, which was a

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<v Speaker 1>substance created by spice spiders, and it's a photoactive substance,

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<v Speaker 1>so it activates when light hits it, so it had

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<v Speaker 1>to be mined in complete darkness. It could not be

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<v Speaker 1>exposed to light in anyway or else it would lose

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<v Speaker 1>its potency. And the spice was essentially a drug. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>As cheery as that is, I do want to point

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<v Speaker 1>out that I'm pretty sure the word castle comes from

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<v Speaker 1>during World War Two. You know that you Rman's got

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<v Speaker 1>themselves really good and surrounded by a group of Russians,

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<v Speaker 1>and UH and some of their compatriots were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get supplies and aid to uh their their surrounding colleagues leagues.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah sure, and this failed completely. But but the word

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<v Speaker 1>kessel means that like pocket in German cat or cattle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>dossi rishtish uh So the glistone spice stuff. What it

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to do within the realm of Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>is boost your mental capacity and even give you perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>telepathic powers for a short amount of time. It was

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<v Speaker 1>also incredibly addictive. This is this makes Han Solo an

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<v Speaker 1>even darker character in a way because he's smuggling. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he runs drugs, um so, yeah, that's kind of grim.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the during the Galactic Republic, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>period that proceeds A New Hope, that's back when there

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<v Speaker 1>was a the Old Republic was around. It was being

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<v Speaker 1>used medically, but then the Republic fails and then the

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<v Speaker 1>black market takes over. Smugglers start selling this I guess

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<v Speaker 1>more like recreational drug as opposed to medical things, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Empire outlaws it. And so that's why it's important

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to avoid imperial entanglements, as Obi Wan

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<v Speaker 1>says in a New Hope. So that's why it's important

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<v Speaker 1>that there's the explanation of shaving off some of the

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<v Speaker 1>distance that it would normally take you to to travel

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get there, and also the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the Falcon would have to be a little faster than

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<v Speaker 1>most ships. Now, all of that is kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I can. I can kind of handle most of that,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I think that the PARSEC thing is really

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<v Speaker 1>an apologist. It's a red coon or retroactive continuity, where you,

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<v Speaker 1>after you've made a mistake, you go back and try

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<v Speaker 1>to justify the fact that a mistake is there. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is, by the way, in no way it's extraordinarily common. Um, yes, everywhere, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Yeah. So the other thing that Hans Solo says

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<v Speaker 1>is that can go at point five beyond light speed.

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<v Speaker 1>So I interpret that to mean half again faster than

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of light. I I interpreted it as as

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<v Speaker 1>a as point five percent of light speed above light speed.

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<v Speaker 1>But but but your sounds much more impressive. But that

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<v Speaker 1>would be much mind would be much more impressive. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>you're violating the laws of physics as we understand them.

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<v Speaker 1>Because as we as we understand the speed of light

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<v Speaker 1>through a vacuum is the universal speed limit. Nothing can

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<v Speaker 1>go faster than light through a vacuum physically impossible. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we should also mention light itself does not necessarily travel

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<v Speaker 1>at the same speed through all media. You know, through

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<v Speaker 1>a vacuum, it travels at an incredible clip. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred million, seven four hundred fifty eight meters per

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<v Speaker 1>second or around one six thousand, two d eighty two

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<v Speaker 1>miles per second. That's through the vacuum of space and

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<v Speaker 1>solos ship. If you assume it could go half again

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<v Speaker 1>faster than the speed of light would have its tough

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<v Speaker 1>speed at somewhere around four hundred forty nine million million

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<v Speaker 1>Si eight thousand, six eighty seven per second or two

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred twenty four miles per second. That's really fast.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course it is faster than anything we can

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<v Speaker 1>we we know of besides some theoretical particles that we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in a little bit. It's faster than anything

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<v Speaker 1>we know of can go. That makes it really problematic

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<v Speaker 1>because if we just talk about parsecs and shaving off distance,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, okay, I can see that we still have

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<v Speaker 1>the problem of a parsec is a really long distance, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So how you know if Han Solo made the Kessel run.

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<v Speaker 1>How long would it take him to do it, assuming

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<v Speaker 1>that he's traveling at around the speed of light? And yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean if you go, if you nudge right up

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<v Speaker 1>to the speed of light, they would take about thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine years travel twelve that that would be. That would

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<v Speaker 1>be due to an independent observer though correct because special relativity.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll talk about that. Yeah, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get into that right now, but special relativity will play

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<v Speaker 1>a part in our second part of our conversation because

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<v Speaker 1>also we should go ahead and say it. According to

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars, and again this is a retcon type thing.

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<v Speaker 1>All ships have a stasis field stabilizer thing that keeps time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the universal constant of time amongst the Empire, which

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<v Speaker 1>is really convenient because otherwise Han Solo would be older

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<v Speaker 1>than Yoda after he had taken what I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>like like two or three trips yet four or five

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<v Speaker 1>trips on the Kestle run. But it does sound like

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<v Speaker 1>he's done it multiple times, which means that if he's

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<v Speaker 1>done the Kestle run multiple times, that special relativity problem,

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<v Speaker 1>which again we'll talk about in a minute just to right.

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<v Speaker 1>So So here's here's the thing the stasis is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to keep everything constant. Uh. Time is a tricky thing

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<v Speaker 1>because it doesn't matter that it's not just if you're

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<v Speaker 1>traveling nearer or at or above the speed of light,

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<v Speaker 1>where you have to take it into account. Every single

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<v Speaker 1>planet that's in the entire galaxy of Star Wars has

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<v Speaker 1>time pass at a different rate according to any according

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<v Speaker 1>to physics. And again it's relative. So if Lauren's on

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<v Speaker 1>one planet and I'm on another planet, each of us

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<v Speaker 1>are going to feel as if time is passing at

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<v Speaker 1>the same speed individually, like a second will feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a second to me, a second will feel like a

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<v Speaker 1>second to Lauren. However, depending upon the planet's mass and

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<v Speaker 1>the speed at which it travels through space, the actual

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<v Speaker 1>passage of time is going to be different relative to

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<v Speaker 1>each other. So if we match our our watches up,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see that they're not keeping exact synchronized time. And

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<v Speaker 1>again more on that and just a bit. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to I have to preface it because it's it makes

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<v Speaker 1>my head swim, all right. So the other element in

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<v Speaker 1>this Star Wars universe is this idea of hyperspace and

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<v Speaker 1>hyper drive, and so this is when and if you've

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<v Speaker 1>watched the Star Wars movies, you know, they engage the

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<v Speaker 1>hyperdrive and then suddenly all the stars start streaking towards

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<v Speaker 1>them in this beautiful display, and from from the outside

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like the ship just suddenly gets an enormous

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<v Speaker 1>speed boost, and yet no one is is slammed back

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<v Speaker 1>against the back of the the Millennium falcon like and

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<v Speaker 1>ejected into space because of the massive acceleration. That would

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<v Speaker 1>be a pretty pretty lame trip. It would be really

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<v Speaker 1>would be funny to see, like the the activation of

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<v Speaker 1>the first hyper drive and then you just see a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of a lads just floating free in space, like well,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a bad idea. Um that kind of this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of happens in far Escape. But that's for for

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<v Speaker 1>you kids out there. We need to make Jonathan watch that. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never watched it. So so it's it's not very

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<v Speaker 1>well defined hyperspace and in the Star Wars universe, even

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<v Speaker 1>in the expanded universe, all right, right, it's hyperspace is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of placed in contrast to real space. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>real space being of course what we're kind of moving

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<v Speaker 1>around and the chips under under normal speed constraints are

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<v Speaker 1>moving around it and then and then yeah, apparently these

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<v Speaker 1>these hypermatter reactor drives with hypermatter implosion cores. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds a little bit like a like a wormhole

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<v Speaker 1>or a test react something like. Yeah. Like again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not very well explained. So some of there's like it

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<v Speaker 1>could be a parallel universe where you open up a

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<v Speaker 1>gate and you travel into a new universe, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you open up a second gate and you re emerge

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<v Speaker 1>into quote unquote our universe, the star or at least

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<v Speaker 1>the Star Wars universe, real space, but you are, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a different point of real space than you were

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<v Speaker 1>when you started. Um Or. It could be an extra

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<v Speaker 1>dimension in space, which is kind of like warp drive,

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<v Speaker 1>where you're warping space around you. It could be an

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<v Speaker 1>alternate mode of physical existence, which I said is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like an astral plane for those of you who

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<v Speaker 1>play fantasy games where you can travel to that. Um

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<v Speaker 1>Or it could just be traveling faster than the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of light, and all of that is difficult to to

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<v Speaker 1>get your head around. Again, none of that was was

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<v Speaker 1>definitively set down in the movies as this is how

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<v Speaker 1>hyper drive works or hyperspace, so we have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different things to choose from and uh. And it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to me that a lot of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>write the Star Wars universe or who have tried to

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<v Speaker 1>explain the Star Wars universe have kind of fudged around

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<v Speaker 1>with this a lot. No one has really come out

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<v Speaker 1>with what is the definitive answer as to what this is? Right? Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and and this I used this example about about once

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<v Speaker 1>a week with Jonathan, but it always reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>this one terrific interview that Rick Berman did about Star Trek,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically the uh Eisenberg uncertainty compensators and the transporters, and

0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:28.159
<v Speaker 1>someone was like, well, how did those work? And he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, very well, thank you, next question. Yeah. Whereas

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the holidack works very poorly, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>it breaks down once a year. But again, within the

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<v Speaker 1>lore of Star Wars, hyperspace itself is first discovered by

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<v Speaker 1>a race called the Ricotta, and they create ricotta like

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<v Speaker 1>the cheese. No, it's our A K A T A Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just checking. You gotta remember that Star Wars often the

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<v Speaker 1>pronunciations are exactly the same as very silly stuff here

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth. Funny about that, um, But anyway, they they

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<v Speaker 1>create force powered drives, so they were tapping into the

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<v Speaker 1>power of the force to travel through space at incredible speeds.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there I have no problem because the force

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<v Speaker 1>is magic, and and magic means you do not have

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<v Speaker 1>to explain how something works technologically. Physics is right out

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<v Speaker 1>the windows, right. Yeah, you know, it's a fairy tale.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't question the physics of a fairy tale, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean if you sit there and say, well, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>prints climbing Rapunzel's hair, scalp her and leave her screaming

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<v Speaker 1>in pain, that doesn't make the fairy tale very much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh would have been a very short movie. Tangled would

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<v Speaker 1>have been very grim and not in a fairy tale

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<v Speaker 1>kind of Okay, anyway, I'm getting off track. But they

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<v Speaker 1>used the force, and I thought, oh, well, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that's force space, then that's except that then within

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<v Speaker 1>again the expanded lore. The Karelians Karelias, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>planets in the Star Wars universe, and the Euros both

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<v Speaker 1>found these starship drives and using reverse engineering, determined how

0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:10.760
<v Speaker 1>they worked and created technological versions of these force driven drives.

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<v Speaker 1>So they use technology to replicate what the force did.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh what now, now we have a technological explanation

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<v Speaker 1>for how hyperspace works, except there's no actual explanation there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that it is technological. Now this is what

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<v Speaker 1>drives me crazy because then I'm like, okay, wait now,

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<v Speaker 1>so if there is a technical way to make it happen,

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<v Speaker 1>how does it work? Um? And and really we have

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<v Speaker 1>more about the process than anything else. So uh. In

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<v Speaker 1>the movies, when they were going to make a jump

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<v Speaker 1>to hyperspace, they would activate the ship's navigational computer, which

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<v Speaker 1>would calculate whatever the route needed to be. And this

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<v Speaker 1>was important because, as Han Solo explains to Luke, who

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<v Speaker 1>is an impatient little brat in a New Hope, he

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<v Speaker 1>explains like, he can't hurry this stuff because if you do,

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<v Speaker 1>you pass too close to a star or a planet,

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<v Speaker 1>it pulls you out of hyperspace and you could die. Yeah. Yeah. Now, now,

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<v Speaker 1>this to me creates another problem, because if hyperspace is

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<v Speaker 1>in fact a parallel universe, why do things that exist

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<v Speaker 1>in our meat space affect you when you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>parallel universe, unless, of course, they also have a presence

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<v Speaker 1>in that parallel universe. I I do. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>And it sounds much more like a like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a wormhole, like like you're somehow jumping from from point

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<v Speaker 1>to point along kind of a like like an conveyor

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<v Speaker 1>belt sort of thing, which is another concept that we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about in a minute. So so you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking more along the lines of this parallel universe has

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<v Speaker 1>has certain anchor points to real space that it does

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<v Speaker 1>pass through, even if it's not a one to one ratio.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that kind of what you're talking about, or yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or kind of like I don't know, like like there's

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<v Speaker 1>just certain sections of space that you can go much

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<v Speaker 1>faster through and and unfortunately, you know, sometimes as sun

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<v Speaker 1>gets in the way, so you're about like the auto

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<v Speaker 1>bawn of space. Yeah, and and that's another thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading on Wikipedia. I was was saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying that there maybe about eight of these, according

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<v Speaker 1>to the Star Wars universe, kicking around and that that

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<v Speaker 1>are super safe roots and then there's some that are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty shady and wind up getting me stuck in an asteroid. Wow. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>at any rate, it does make me sit there and

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<v Speaker 1>think this parallel universe explanation is is harder to get

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<v Speaker 1>my mind wrapped around if things in real space can

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<v Speaker 1>affect you're traveling through the parallel universe, unless, of course, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just talking about how where your output is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be, like where your stopping point is going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>then obviously would be important if if it um maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it has to calculate, all right, well during the process,

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<v Speaker 1>like right now, if we were to leave, if we

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<v Speaker 1>were to instantaneously jump to this end point right now,

0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 1>we'd be fine. But by the time we actually get there,

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a planet in the way because of

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<v Speaker 1>the rotation of the planets. Then I'm like, okay, all right,

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:57.639
<v Speaker 1>I got it. Now that makes sense. It was to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the stuff that was on the pathway that

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<v Speaker 1>made no sense. But anyway, how the hyperdrive would create

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<v Speaker 1>ripples in the time space matrix using a fusion reaction

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:11.199
<v Speaker 1>and gamma radiation, and then the ripples would propel the

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:14.440
<v Speaker 1>ship into hyperspace and none of that makes any sense.

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:17.960
<v Speaker 1>But then again, it sounds really impressive if you're just

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<v Speaker 1>not thinking at all, If if you're just if Han

0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Solo were reading that, I would be like, yeah, totally, yeah, well,

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:24.879
<v Speaker 1>let mean, come on, he was kind of dreamy, you know,

0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 1>we just we just bought anything, he said, uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And and this also reminds me of warp drive as well,

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:34.400
<v Speaker 1>where you're you're warping the time space. In this case

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>it's the time space matrix, and in star check could

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 1>be the space time continuum. But either way, it's the

0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:43.920
<v Speaker 1>idea of warping the dimensions themselves in order to propel

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:48.399
<v Speaker 1>you across vast distances at incredible speeds. And uh and

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<v Speaker 1>so that's kind of the breakdown of how it worked

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:55.200
<v Speaker 1>within the lore of Star Wars. But we should really

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:57.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of talk about again. We'll we'll get into special

0:23:57.520 --> 0:24:02.560
<v Speaker 1>relativity in general relativity and also some other discussions about

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<v Speaker 1>the whole hyperspace idea and just a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 1>first before we do that, let's take a quick moment

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<v Speaker 1>to thank our sponsored Alright, so let's get back to hyperspace.

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<v Speaker 1>So we mentioned in the first half nothing can go

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<v Speaker 1>faster than the speed of light, this universal speed look correct, Yeah,

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's smart. People such as Einstein have talked a

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:24.719
<v Speaker 1>lot about that, right, and that that speed and time

0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:30.239
<v Speaker 1>themselves actually have a relationship. And so this gets us

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<v Speaker 1>into special relativity. There are a lot of different aspects

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<v Speaker 1>of special relativity, but the one that interests me the

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<v Speaker 1>most in this discussion is the fact that as objects

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 1>move faster, time dilates on that object relative to a

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>stationary observer. So again, in other words, like if I

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:51.159
<v Speaker 1>if I'm standing perfectly still in space, so I'm not,

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not on a planet, I'm not moving at all,

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:57.159
<v Speaker 1>hopefully in space? Yes, sure, why not? I'll give it

0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:58.880
<v Speaker 1>to you at this time, all right, And Lauren, you

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:02.440
<v Speaker 1>are in a a zippy little ship that's going at

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 1>near the speed of light. Again, to you, time seems

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>to be passing at the normal rate. Like if you

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>were to have a watch watch, it would be taking

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 1>along at one second pertick according to my eyeballs right,

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 1>and it would feel exactly like it was as long

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 1>as a second should be. My watch would also to

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>me be it would appear to be moving at exactly

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 1>the correct speed. Now, if I were to to be

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.720
<v Speaker 1>able to see what's happening in your little world, it

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.639
<v Speaker 1>would look to me like a time had slowed way

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>down for you, and that more time was passing for

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>me than it was for you. So you could do

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:43.679
<v Speaker 1>like a quick joy ride around the Solar system. And

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>let's say we're just going to make an argument that

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>that you take an hour long trip around the Solar system.

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 1>And now we're according to me to to your to

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.959
<v Speaker 1>your watch, so your watch, you start the timer as

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:57.880
<v Speaker 1>soon as you engage the drive, and an hour has

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 1>gone by, and you you come back and pick you

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:03.200
<v Speaker 1>come back to see me, and uh, and we're gonna

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 1>say that you're going at a speed so that we

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>won't make it ridiculous. Well, you're going at a speed

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>where a year of time has gone by for me.

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to Chris speed. So so an hour of

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>times gone by for Lauren, a year has gone by

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 1>for me. Um And and that's the special relativity. It's

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:24.679
<v Speaker 1>that idea that again relative to me, less time has

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 1>passed for Lauren. Relative to Lauren, more time has passed

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 1>for me. And and that's because that's because speed and

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:33.680
<v Speaker 1>mass both have speed and gravity both have an effect

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>on time, as though time is a substance itself. So

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 1>now the the gravity mass thing, that's really more general relativity.

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>But that's that's also playing a part in all of

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 1>our calculations when it comes to space. Faring. By the way,

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 1>if you were to do something like Carrie an atomic clock,

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 1>uh and have it synchronized with another atomic clock. So

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.439
<v Speaker 1>to atomic clocks are side by side on a table

0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>here on Earth, and you take one of those and

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you get on an air elevator line is not not

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:04.879
<v Speaker 1>even a space elver. You just get an airplane. And

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>as an airplane is going at top speed and it's

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 1>flying as far as it possibly can and then it lands.

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>By the time it lands, those two clocks that were

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>in perfect sink before will no longer be in perfect sink.

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>And the reason is is that you were traveling a

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:22.160
<v Speaker 1>little faster. There's also some uh, the element of general relativity,

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>which means that when you're further away from the center

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 1>of the Earth, and therefore the closer you are to

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:32.880
<v Speaker 1>a large mass object, the slower time passes for you

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>relative to something that's further out from that massive object. Again,

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>it's all relative because from your individual experience, it seems

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>like time is passing at the same rate unless you're,

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, waiting on an important phone call, right, in

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 1>which case, yeah, like you know that that dreamy that

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>dreamy person you met at that party is supposed to

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>call and you're just staring at the phone. Tie. Every

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>second is an eternity, no matter whether you're traveling at

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 1>the speed of light or not. But anyway, yeah, we

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>can observe asn't it in satellites that we've launched into orbit.

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 1>They have to they have to mathematically correct. Yeah. So,

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>in fact, both special and general relativity play a part

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 1>in this. So the Global Positioning System GPS, the GPS

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 1>device you have picks up signals that are beamed down

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 1>from satellites, and the satellites part of the signal is

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>a time stamp, And the way your GPS figures out

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>where you are is by saying, all right, well, it

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>took x amount of time for for this one signal

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>to come from this satellite to hit me. It took

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>x amount why amount of time from the signal from

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>this other satellite to hit me, and took the amount

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 1>of time for the signal from this third satellite to

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>hit me. Based upon all of that and the position

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 1>of those satellites, I know that I must be on

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>this point on the Earth. Well, obviously the time stamp

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>is really important for the information to work needs to

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>be pretty precise. Yeah, otherwise it's going to give you

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the wrong location on the Earth. The thing about the

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>satellites is that they are traveling faster than a point

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>relative on the surface of the Earth. So that means

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>that time is passing again at a different rate relative

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>to us here on Earth on the on the surface.

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.719
<v Speaker 1>But they are also further out from the mass of

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the Earth, which means they're going faster. So that means

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>times passing more slowly relative to us. But they are

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>further out, so time is passing faster than relative to us.

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>This gets really complicated, but if you were talking about

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>just special relativity, because the satellites are moving so fast,

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 1>they have about a lag of about seven micro seconds

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>per day on the satellites clock. So remember they're they're

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>traveling faster than the relative point on the surface of

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the Earth, so that means that less time is passing

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>on the satellite seven microseconds per day as a as

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>a result. But because they're further out from the mass

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of the Earth, then a clock would be here, you know,

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>close to the surface, their clocks are actually running faster

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>by about forty five micro seconds per day because of

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>general relativity. So if you take those two numbers the

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the lag of second seven microsecon and the surplus of

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>forty five microseconds, and then you know, combine the two

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>to cancel them out. You are still left with a

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>thirty eight microseconds surplus per day on the satellites clock

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>compared to one on Earth. So that means that you

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>actually have to correct for that. All right, that's one

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>satellite that's orbiting Earth. Now imagine that on all the

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>spaceships traveling everywhere all the time. And that's why you

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>get to the point where keeping track of time is

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 1>an impossible act level. Yeah. So in the case of

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Han Solo, again going back to that that Wired article

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>that Kyle Hill wrote, he started pointing out that assuming

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that you're going at near the speed of light. He

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>went ahead and said, okay, you can't go faster than

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>speed of light. Yeah, let's let's that's right out. And

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>going at the speed of light is also impossible because

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>you would at that point have infinite density, density and mass.

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>So so that would be bad your mass. Your mass

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>increases as you get closer to the speed of light.

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>But if we say at infinitum, yeah, so it's going

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>a ballast pass. As as as that was close to

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.959
<v Speaker 1>his speed of light as you possibly can imagine, this

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>is probably not ever it's probably not ever going to

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>be possible physically, but if you can imagine it um that,

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>then the castle run would take about half a day,

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>about so sixteen hours on the on the Millennium Falcon.

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 1>But then galactic time, assuming the galactic time is passing

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>at a standstone, forty years, so forty years would pass

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>in galactic time while on board the falcon, sixteen hours passes.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>So they started to figure out, like, how much time

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>has passed in the gal in the galaxy since Han

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Solo made his Kessel run, And then he started saying, well,

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>yeahs probably made a castle run more than once, so

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 1>if you start adding up the number of Kessel runs,

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 1>how much time has passed. And that's when he said, like,

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, you do two castle runs. And then he

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>had to have been born before characters who like you know,

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 1>So then you've got Han Solo predating all the characters

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>who were in the prequels. Uh, And it's because of

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>this special relativity problem. So, by the way, if he

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>were in fact able to travel faster than the speed

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.719
<v Speaker 1>of light, it would mean that he would arrive at

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>his destination before he left math is fun. Yeah, so

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>so he would actually he would be on Kessel before

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>he had decided to make the Kessel run due to

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the way this works. Not granted, nothing can go faster

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>than the speed of light. But you know, assuming they

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 1>have they have those those drives, those the hyper drives,

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 1>ret red con drives, the red con drives. Yes, those

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>work really well. Um where you just say, hey, look impossible,

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>let's change it. Let's look at the Wookie. Yeah, and

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and so the stasis field was sort of the answer

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to that, saying that the time does not pass differently

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>aboard the ship as it does in the outside galaxy,

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>which is fine except for the fact that again, remember,

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>every single planet has its own passage of time. Like

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, a second feels like a second no matter

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 1>where you are, but it lasts shorter or longer depending

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>upon the planet's mass and its speed that it moves

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>through space. And also technically, I think that it would

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.479
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit confusing to try to, you know,

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>call days out on a whole system of planets that

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>have different sons and different orbits and yeah, and and tattooing,

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>you've got two sons. One of them might always be up.

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>You never know. I mean, it's it gets complex and

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah. And then you have all these other people

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>who are traveling around at nearer or faster than the

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>speed of lights, so time gets messed up for them too,

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>So time would be meaningless in this universe, which you know,

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>one could argue it's kind of meaningless now, but I

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>don't get that cynical except on Fridays, and it's a Thursday,

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>so I'm all right. Then again, there are also some

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>criticisms to things like the visual representation of what it

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>looks like to go into hyper space, which I thought

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>was so yeah, yeah, there there was a study that

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 1>was done by we did that study, I don't have

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>it in front of some students that Riley Connor's, Katy Dexter,

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Argyle and Cameron's school are, and they said that

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>if you were to travel at the speed of light,

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and not only would you not see those stars become streets,

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>they would become a cone of light. So the center

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 1>would be the brightest, and the further out from the cone,

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the darker it would get. And uh and part of

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>that is because of the Doppler effect essentially, right, right,

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's blue shift and redshift. And yes, when

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>you're when you're when you're moving near the speed of

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 1>light or at the speed of light towards something, Um,

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 1>everything is going to shift towards the blue. Yeah. The

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>waves compressed because you're you're traveling toward the emanation of

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.359
<v Speaker 1>those waves, so they are being compressed further and further.

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 1>In fact, they would be compressed so much as to

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>move outside the visible spectrum and then you would start

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>getting hit by lots of X rays, which would tell

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.240
<v Speaker 1>you that your spaceship needs to have some real protection

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 1>built into it or else people are not going to

0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:59.800
<v Speaker 1>feel so great when they get to where they're going. U.

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.879
<v Speaker 1>And that's an interesting point too. Yeah, And I didn't

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>even think about that until I read this little study

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, well, that's pretty clever. Yeah, I guess.

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 1>So the doubler effect would would be something you'd have

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 1>to take into account, so it wouldn't look like those

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:17.799
<v Speaker 1>stars flying by the way they do in the movies. UM.

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 1>So we wanted to talk a little bit conclude with

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a discussion about some actual real propulsion systems besides chemical rockets.

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Now we don't have a hyperdrive, which is unfortunate. We

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>would love to have one obviously, would be really handy,

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you guys, get on that. Yeah, but right now we

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 1>don't have one. So some of the propulsion systems have

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 1>been proposed for for for space travel beyond. We're getting

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>outside the whole thing about launching off the Earth. I

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 1>mean that that part. You still pretty much need chemical rockets,

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>solid fuel rockets, uh to to provide the propulsion you

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 1>need to get off the planet, right, because the amount

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.319
<v Speaker 1>of power involved what we can do with chemical right

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.839
<v Speaker 1>now is a lot more. Um well, it gives a

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>lot more. A lot more, that's the that's the astronomical term,

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:09.439
<v Speaker 1>and there's a plenty in a chemical rocket. These other

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 1>drives would be very useful once you do get up

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>into space where you don't have to have the considerations

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 1>of escaping a planet's gravity or battling its atmosphere in

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:21.319
<v Speaker 1>order to maneuver right, because the thing about about these

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 1>chemical drives is that they are extremely wasteful in a

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 1>grand universal kind of scheme. You have to carry a

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of fuel. They pack a lot of power, but

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to carry an awful lot of It's not

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>terribly efficient. Uh, so they wouldn't last very long in

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 1>the grand scheme of things. If you're talking about trying

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 1>to travel vast different distances, not differences, but distances, then

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>the chemical uh rockets end up being really heavy and

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that limits how much you can carry, which in turn

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.240
<v Speaker 1>limits how far you can go. So without just coasting

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:57.879
<v Speaker 1>like for example, the voice your satellites right right, which, hey,

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:03.319
<v Speaker 1>just left the Solar system. Actually they didn't. They come back. Yeah, yeah,

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 1>they puto um no they that was that was a

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:10.839
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a mismisquote in the press. Oh nice. Yeah,

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Well I'm glad you. I'm glad you caught up on that,

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 1>because obviously I did not. I failed to tweet about it.

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>So well, I'm that's bad. Hey, no, it's okay. You

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>caught it on the podcast. So now our listeners can

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 1>say that vogo bomb she gives Strickland on task. So

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:29.439
<v Speaker 1>one of the ones we want to talk about where

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 1>ion engines. Now ion engines they're using ions and so

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>that's charged particles. Um. You know, think of an atom

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>that's either either has an excess of electrons or a

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>deficit in electrons. So either way to got a negative

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>or positive charge. Plasma is an ionic gas, so it's

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>a gas that has these free ions moving through. It

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:55.359
<v Speaker 1>means that you can actually pass electric current through the

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:58.359
<v Speaker 1>gas itself. That's what a plasma is. A plasma, of course,

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 1>is the most plentiful of the states of matter in

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the universe as far as we are aware. And UM

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and so the ion engines use electric fields rather than

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:13.240
<v Speaker 1>chemical reactions to create propulsion. And they're not as powerful

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 1>as chemical engines, so they don't give you that the

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 1>chemical engines do, but they are way more efficient, and

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>so they can last ages. And they use that they

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.880
<v Speaker 1>have solar energy to provide that. Yeah, they get the

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:28.839
<v Speaker 1>solar energy to provide electricity to help create these reactions

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:31.760
<v Speaker 1>that will create the ions that that propel it. So

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>they have these big solar panels that will unfold from

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the spacecraft. We've already launched some spacecraft using ion engines.

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>The Dawn spacecraft, which launched on September twenty seven, two

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>thousand seven, has ion engines and uses the solar panels

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:51.280
<v Speaker 1>to get the electricity UM it's destination had to actually,

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>but the second destination, the ultimate destination, is a dwarf

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:59.240
<v Speaker 1>planet series and it's scheduled to arrive there in February.

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh So, visiting the NASA pages about this spacecraft, I

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:07.799
<v Speaker 1>saw some interesting figures. One was that it is a

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 1>six point three billion kilometer journey, and just so that

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you get an idea of how far that is compared

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 1>to a light year. A light year is nine point

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>four trillion kilometers, so six point three billion kilometers still

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:22.360
<v Speaker 1>nowhere near a light year. So it assuming that it

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>arrives on the first of February, in which you know,

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 1>that's I just took as an arbitrary it will have

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>flown for seven years, five months, and two days to

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>go those six point three billion kilometers. So I did

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>some I did some silly little math which was that

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 1>six million, six point three billion kilometers ends up being

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>six point three trillion meters. And then you have to

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>figure out how many seconds are in seven years, five months,

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and two days. So I did two hundred three six

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 1>million hundred seconds. So if you do the math, then

0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 1>that means that the average speed, and this is you know,

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 1>just an average because it does change, is twenty six

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>five nine seven meters per second. Based on the information

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 1>that I was able to find, so uhby I mean

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>not shabby, but still nowhere near the schools of the falcon. Uh.

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:18.399
<v Speaker 1>But it also used about uses. The Dawn's engine used

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>fos of xenon fuel, being a neutral ly charged yeah,

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 1>and it used that the solar array to to ionize

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>everything's uh. And the solar array at one astronomical unit

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 1>provided about ten point three kilowatts of power. Uh. An

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 1>astronomical unit, by the way, is one million, seven thousand

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:43.359
<v Speaker 1>and seventy one KOs. And you might say, well, what

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the heck kind of measurement is that, Well, that's the

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>mean distance between the Earth and the Sun. Because the

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 1>distance actually changes throughout the Earth's rotation around the Sun,

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not always exactly that far away. That's the mean.

0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 1>So that's what we decided to define as an astronomical unit.

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure any aliens will be happy to take

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:07.399
<v Speaker 1>us up on a discussion of why that's very human centric. Yeah, yes,

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>an astronomical unit is exactly the distance between your star

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and your planet. Really enlightened guys, I mean I think

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 1>that they'll really take onto it like parsex. Yeah, they'll

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>be right up there. They're like I was having this

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 1>discussion with my Buddy eight parsex Ago like, oh, come on, like, hey,

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 1>I know how this goes, because I watched your Star

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Wars documentary. So at the maximum thrust, Don's ion engine

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 1>expands about point to five ms of xenon per day,

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and that produces a thrust of ninety two million Newton's,

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>which NASA explains is about the amount of force you

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 1>feel when you put a piece of paper on your

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 1>open hand. That's the amount of force which sounds so

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>incredibly unimpressive when you write, but in the in the

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:56.839
<v Speaker 1>in the environment of space is plenty enough. And uh

0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 1>so it says that the thrust changes the space crest

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 1>velocity about oh ten to the negative five meters per

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>second every second, and after about a thousand days, it

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>would achieve a velocity of a thousand meters per second.

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 1>So because there's no dragon space exactly. Yeah, so anyway, yeah,

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:18.760
<v Speaker 1>about a thousand meters a second after a thousand days.

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 1>So that that that speed I gave you the twenty

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 1>six thousand seven per second. Obviously, again that's a that's

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.919
<v Speaker 1>just averaging it out over the full distance. In fact,

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 1>it's just constantly accelerating, uh, not always at that particular speed.

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 1>But it will be or at that particular rate. I

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't say it's accelerating at that speed. That's totally not misleading,

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>but at that rate. So yeah, that's that's one of

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>the ones that we're looking at. Now. There's also other

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>forms of propulsion that have been proposed, like solar sales. Again,

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:53.240
<v Speaker 1>not something that's going to get you from Earth's solar

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 1>system to a distant solar system anytime quickly. Um, it's

0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:02.400
<v Speaker 1>more of a very efficient means of travel by harnessing photons.

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:04.840
<v Speaker 1>The photons hit the solar sale and that's what provides

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the propulsion to move the craft forward, which sounds kind

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 1>of incredible you think about that. You know, how much

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>kinetic energy can a photon have? Uh And and it

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 1>may surprise some of you to know that photons have

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:20.280
<v Speaker 1>kinetic energy, but but that's true. I mean the Earth actually,

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 1>when the sun is hitting you, you weigh a little

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 1>more because the light is actually hitting again. Yeah, yeah,

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 1>that's why I never go outside. I don't like getting

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>pushed around by the sun or by nobody. And so, uh,

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:39.839
<v Speaker 1>then I wanted to mention there's a theoretical engine. There's

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 1>there's a few theoretical engines. Yeah, the one that I

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:48.400
<v Speaker 1>came across was an electromagnetic gravity drive by Yachoum Howser.

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 1>That's just a guess because I don't know how to

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>pronounce that name. I do not either. That sounds great

0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 1>to me. Well, he's a physicist and a professor of

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.800
<v Speaker 1>computer science at the University Applied Sciences in a solve

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 1>skitter and uh. And then he worked with Volter Drusher,

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>who was an Austrian patent officer, and they came up

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 1>with an idea that would use an electro magnet, essentially

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 1>a rotating ring above a super conducting coil, and then

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 1>they would pump a lot of electricity through the coil,

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 1>which would then create a magnetic field. Because we know

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:28.279
<v Speaker 1>about the relationship between coils, electricity and then magnets magnets,

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 1>you know you can you can either if you run

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 1>electricity through a coil, you'll create a magnetic field. If

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you run a coil through a magnetic field that's alternating

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>or that's that's uh, that's changing over time, a dynamic

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>magnetic field, you will induce current to flow through the coil.

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>That's this relationship between electricity and magnets. Thus the electro

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:51.879
<v Speaker 1>magnetism that magnetic field will quote reduce the gravitational pull

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 1>on the ring to the point where it floats free

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>end quote. Uh. And that theoretically you could go from

0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Earth to Mars and about three hours using this in

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 1>a way that makes no sense to me. I mean,

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 1>it's it's talking about a The math requires that you

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:12.240
<v Speaker 1>actually have extra dimensions to make it all makes sense.

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 1>And you know, in the in the standard model, we

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 1>essentially think of four dimensions, three in space and one

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 1>in time. But this would require two more dimensions, would

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>also end up in requiring extra fundamental forces besides the

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 1>strong and weak nuclear force, electromagnetic and gravity that we

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 1>are familiar with, there be two more and uh. And

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 1>it's possible that these things exist, but it's so far

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>exists as far as math goes, and not observation right right,

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 1>even even lower down or even though it drowning down

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:42.359
<v Speaker 1>on the scale. There's a few other things that people

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 1>have kind of theorized about. One one is called um

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:47.720
<v Speaker 1>this is probably not how you say it. Qber's warp

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 1>drive is the thing that NASA has talked about a

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit, which which kind of kind of is similar

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 1>to the Doppler effect. It says that if you can

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 1>get space time to expand behind you in contract in

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 1>front of you, you can just kind of warp straight

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:01.839
<v Speaker 1>through it. So, in other words, think of it this way.

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:05.319
<v Speaker 1>You've gotta like imagine you have a map in front

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 1>of you, all right, a paper map, and you have

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:12.439
<v Speaker 1>put a figuring on the leftmost edge of the paper map,

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:14.360
<v Speaker 1>and your job is to get the figuring to the

0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 1>right most edge and the least number of die rolls,

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 1>and there their spaces there that that represent how far

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you can go. So uh, normally there would be a

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred spaces between you and the and the right side,

0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:31.839
<v Speaker 1>and you're only able to roll the die x number

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:35.040
<v Speaker 1>of times. Right, but you can just pick up right

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 1>if you were able to fold the edge of the

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>map so that it's right next to you, and you

0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 1>roll a one and you move one space, and then

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 1>you unfold the map, you have just moved one space,

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 1>but you've traveled all that distance. That's the magic of

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 1>warp drive. People. We're talking about folding all of the

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 1>galaxy around us to accommodate our travel needs. And people say,

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm a demanding traveler, but so so that's that's one.

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:06.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, it sounds super easy on paper. Um, I

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:11.799
<v Speaker 1>just explained that. Um. And the other being a being

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 1>creating wormholes. Um. You know, you know, a wormhole being

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:18.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of a pokey thing through its shortcut on a

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 1>paper map. If you, if you, if you took instead

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.320
<v Speaker 1>of a little figuring, you had a pointy figuring or

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>a pencil or something, and you and you stuck that

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 1>pencil straight through the two points in the map that

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to travel between, and then sort of hit

0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 1>hopped through the holes. So there's still some travel time,

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:35.360
<v Speaker 1>but it's much more reduced. It's this is where we

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 1>get wibbly wobbly timmy whimy right right. But but hypothetically,

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.920
<v Speaker 1>all we would have to do is build two super

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 1>dense rings giant super dense rings, charge them somehow, and

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 1>spin them near the speed of light. Oh that's easy, Yeah,

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 1>no problem. So the interesting thing here, by the way,

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 1>is that when we're talking about warping space, when we're

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 1>talking about actually moving or manipulating the space time continuum

0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:01.240
<v Speaker 1>or however you want to fabric break of space itself,

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>we actually get around the special relativity problem because your

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 1>actual speed doesn't need to be light speed. You are

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 1>just changing the distance and not changing You're not going

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.320
<v Speaker 1>at this incredible speed. So time is still gonna travel

0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 1>or stimes. Time is still going to pass differently relative

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:19.800
<v Speaker 1>to someone on a different ship or a different planet,

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:23.200
<v Speaker 1>but not at the amazing differences. You wouldn't need an

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 1>infinite amount of energy to move yourself, and you wouldn't

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 1>have an infinite amount of masks. And you also wouldn't

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.239
<v Speaker 1>find out when you call back home that everyone you

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 1>know is forty years older. Uh, they might be, you know,

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:38.520
<v Speaker 1>a few micro seconds older than you, but it would be,

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, so small as to not as to be negligible,

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:43.880
<v Speaker 1>except for things like communication and stuff where you have

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 1>to have exact timing. Obviously you have to have computers

0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:49.840
<v Speaker 1>to correct those calculations. But when it comes to, you know,

0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:52.000
<v Speaker 1>missing someone's birthday, you don't have to worry so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Daylight saving time would probably interesting. So anyway, Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there are people who are working on these theoretical drives.

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<v Speaker 1>It may turn out that the theories are just they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're not truly like theories in the sense of this

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<v Speaker 1>is really established stuff. We're just working more hYP they're

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<v Speaker 1>more like hypotheses that we have yet to prove um.

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<v Speaker 1>So it'll be interesting to see if we ever do

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<v Speaker 1>develop anything beyond the propulsion systems that we're currently looking into. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it would obviously be very helpful for anything

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<v Speaker 1>involving colonization or exploration, because otherwise it's going to take

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<v Speaker 1>us a really long time to get Yeah, you you

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<v Speaker 1>would have to build spacecraft capable of supporting multiple generations

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<v Speaker 1>of people aboard that with a very limited number of supplies,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, you pretty much you have what you

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<v Speaker 1>take with you. You know, you know, most we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know of any shopping malls out there beyond Earth. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to have to grow it yourself up. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that that kind of wraps up this discussion about uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars and hyperspace, the Kessel Run, what we're actually

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<v Speaker 1>looking into as means of propulsion in space. It's a

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