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Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with tex stuff from dot com.

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Speaker 1: He there text stuff fans. This is Jonathan Strickland and

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Speaker 1: I'm Lauren Wold OBAM and today we want to present

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Speaker 1: you a little drama. So I will be taking on

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Speaker 1: a roll and Lauren will be taking on a roll

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Speaker 1: and this plays into what we'll be talking about today.

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Speaker 1: So here we go, man, red leather, yellow leather, red leave,

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Speaker 1: yellow leather. All right, here we go, Han Solo, I'm

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Speaker 1: captain of the Millennium Falcon. Chewy here tells me you're

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Speaker 1: looking for passage to the Alboron system. Yes, indeed, if

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Speaker 1: it's a fast ship fast ship, You've never heard of

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Speaker 1: the Millennium Falcon, should I have? It's the ship that

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Speaker 1: made the Kessel run in less than twelve parsecs. I've

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Speaker 1: outrun Imperial starships, not the local bulk cruisers mind you.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the big Karelian ships. Now, she's fast

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Speaker 1: enough for you, old man? What's the cargo? Usually I

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Speaker 1: am the one calling you old man. Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to turn that around a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I also didn't go full Christopher walk In, despite the

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Speaker 1: fact that I love that Saturday Night Live skit. So

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Speaker 1: we are talking about the Kessel Run and hyper drives

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Speaker 1: in the Star Wars universe and uh, and then kind

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Speaker 1: of comparing it to what we would like to call

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Speaker 1: real life. Right. We're doing this, by the way, because

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Speaker 1: this is our five first episode and we are we

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Speaker 1: we are big fans of the five of first legion.

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Speaker 1: That's right, That's right, that's the Uh. This is props

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Speaker 1: going out to our Star Wars buddies. So you five

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Speaker 1: So now, in the original context, we need to talk

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Speaker 1: about what the Kessel Run is within the mythology of

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Speaker 1: Star Wars, all right, and it's not really mentioned in

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Speaker 1: um in any of the three original films, right, or

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Speaker 1: even the fictional prequels that supposedly exist. No, we should

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Speaker 1: also point out, according to everything I've ever read, Lucas

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Speaker 1: no um. You know, the stuff that we'll be talking

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Speaker 1: Kessel Run in particular is a route in Star Wars,

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Speaker 1: at least this is the way it's explained. In the

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Speaker 1: Expanded Universe. It's it's a smuggling run, right, which is

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Speaker 1: exactly what you know. Han Solo is a smuggler, and

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Speaker 1: so this is a particular route through space that smugglers

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Speaker 1: a great article how the Star Wars Kessel run turns

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Speaker 1: not thinking at all, If if you're just if Han

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Speaker 1: Solo were reading that, I would be like, yeah, totally, yeah, well,

429
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 1: let mean, come on, he was kind of dreamy, you know,

430
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: we just we just bought anything, he said, uh yeah.

431
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 1: And and this also reminds me of warp drive as well,

432
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Speaker 1: where you're you're warping the time space. In this case

433
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: it's the time space matrix, and in star check could

434
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: be the space time continuum. But either way, it's the

435
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: idea of warping the dimensions themselves in order to propel

436
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: you across vast distances at incredible speeds. And uh and

437
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: so that's kind of the breakdown of how it worked

438
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: within the lore of Star Wars. But we should really

439
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: kind of talk about again. We'll we'll get into special

440
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: relativity in general relativity and also some other discussions about

441
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Speaker 1: the whole hyperspace idea and just a little bit. But

442
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Speaker 1: first before we do that, let's take a quick moment

443
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Speaker 1: to thank our sponsored Alright, so let's get back to hyperspace.

444
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Speaker 1: So we mentioned in the first half nothing can go

445
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Speaker 1: faster than the speed of light, this universal speed look correct, Yeah,

446
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: it's it's smart. People such as Einstein have talked a

447
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 1: lot about that, right, and that that speed and time

448
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:30,239
Speaker 1: themselves actually have a relationship. And so this gets us

449
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Speaker 1: into special relativity. There are a lot of different aspects

450
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Speaker 1: of special relativity, but the one that interests me the

451
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: most in this discussion is the fact that as objects

452
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Speaker 1: move faster, time dilates on that object relative to a

453
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Speaker 1: stationary observer. So again, in other words, like if I

454
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Speaker 1: if I'm standing perfectly still in space, so I'm not,

455
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Speaker 1: I'm not on a planet, I'm not moving at all,

456
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: hopefully in space? Yes, sure, why not? I'll give it

457
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Speaker 1: to you at this time, all right, And Lauren, you

458
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Speaker 1: are in a a zippy little ship that's going at

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Speaker 1: near the speed of light. Again, to you, time seems

460
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Speaker 1: to be passing at the normal rate. Like if you

461
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Speaker 1: were to have a watch watch, it would be taking

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Speaker 1: along at one second pertick according to my eyeballs right,

463
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Speaker 1: and it would feel exactly like it was as long

464
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Speaker 1: as a second should be. My watch would also to

465
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Speaker 1: me be it would appear to be moving at exactly

466
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Speaker 1: the correct speed. Now, if I were to to be

467
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Speaker 1: able to see what's happening in your little world, it

468
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Speaker 1: would look to me like a time had slowed way

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Speaker 1: down for you, and that more time was passing for

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Speaker 1: me than it was for you. So you could do

471
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Speaker 1: like a quick joy ride around the Solar system. And

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Speaker 1: let's say we're just going to make an argument that

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Speaker 1: that you take an hour long trip around the Solar system.

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Speaker 1: And now we're according to me to to your to

475
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Speaker 1: your watch, so your watch, you start the timer as

476
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Speaker 1: soon as you engage the drive, and an hour has

477
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Speaker 1: gone by, and you you come back and pick you

478
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Speaker 1: come back to see me, and uh, and we're gonna

479
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Speaker 1: say that you're going at a speed so that we

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Speaker 1: won't make it ridiculous. Well, you're going at a speed

481
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Speaker 1: where a year of time has gone by for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to Chris speed. So so an hour of

483
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Speaker 1: times gone by for Lauren, a year has gone by

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Speaker 1: for me. Um And and that's the special relativity. It's

485
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Speaker 1: that idea that again relative to me, less time has

486
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Speaker 1: passed for Lauren. Relative to Lauren, more time has passed

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Speaker 1: for me. And and that's because that's because speed and

488
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Speaker 1: mass both have speed and gravity both have an effect

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Speaker 1: on time, as though time is a substance itself. So

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Speaker 1: now the the gravity mass thing, that's really more general relativity.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's also playing a part in all of

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Speaker 1: our calculations when it comes to space. Faring. By the way,

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Speaker 1: if you were to do something like Carrie an atomic clock,

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Speaker 1: uh and have it synchronized with another atomic clock. So

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Speaker 1: to atomic clocks are side by side on a table

496
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Speaker 1: here on Earth, and you take one of those and

497
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Speaker 1: you get on an air elevator line is not not

498
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Speaker 1: even a space elver. You just get an airplane. And

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00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: as an airplane is going at top speed and it's

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Speaker 1: flying as far as it possibly can and then it lands.

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Speaker 1: By the time it lands, those two clocks that were

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Speaker 1: in perfect sink before will no longer be in perfect sink.

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Speaker 1: And the reason is is that you were traveling a

504
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Speaker 1: little faster. There's also some uh, the element of general relativity,

505
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: which means that when you're further away from the center

506
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Speaker 1: of the Earth, and therefore the closer you are to

507
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Speaker 1: a large mass object, the slower time passes for you

508
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Speaker 1: relative to something that's further out from that massive object. Again,

509
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Speaker 1: it's all relative because from your individual experience, it seems

510
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Speaker 1: like time is passing at the same rate unless you're,

511
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Speaker 1: you know, waiting on an important phone call, right, in

512
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Speaker 1: which case, yeah, like you know that that dreamy that

513
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: dreamy person you met at that party is supposed to

514
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: call and you're just staring at the phone. Tie. Every

515
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: second is an eternity, no matter whether you're traveling at

516
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Speaker 1: the speed of light or not. But anyway, yeah, we

517
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Speaker 1: can observe asn't it in satellites that we've launched into orbit.

518
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Speaker 1: They have to they have to mathematically correct. Yeah. So,

519
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: in fact, both special and general relativity play a part

520
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Speaker 1: in this. So the Global Positioning System GPS, the GPS

521
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: device you have picks up signals that are beamed down

522
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Speaker 1: from satellites, and the satellites part of the signal is

523
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: a time stamp, And the way your GPS figures out

524
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Speaker 1: where you are is by saying, all right, well, it

525
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: took x amount of time for for this one signal

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Speaker 1: to come from this satellite to hit me. It took

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Speaker 1: x amount why amount of time from the signal from

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Speaker 1: this other satellite to hit me, and took the amount

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Speaker 1: of time for the signal from this third satellite to

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Speaker 1: hit me. Based upon all of that and the position

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Speaker 1: of those satellites, I know that I must be on

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Speaker 1: this point on the Earth. Well, obviously the time stamp

533
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: is really important for the information to work needs to

534
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: be pretty precise. Yeah, otherwise it's going to give you

535
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Speaker 1: the wrong location on the Earth. The thing about the

536
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Speaker 1: satellites is that they are traveling faster than a point

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Speaker 1: relative on the surface of the Earth. So that means

538
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Speaker 1: that time is passing again at a different rate relative

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Speaker 1: to us here on Earth on the on the surface.

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Speaker 1: But they are also further out from the mass of

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Speaker 1: the Earth, which means they're going faster. So that means

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00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: times passing more slowly relative to us. But they are

543
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: further out, so time is passing faster than relative to us.

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Speaker 1: This gets really complicated, but if you were talking about

545
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Speaker 1: just special relativity, because the satellites are moving so fast,

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Speaker 1: they have about a lag of about seven micro seconds

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Speaker 1: per day on the satellites clock. So remember they're they're

548
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Speaker 1: traveling faster than the relative point on the surface of

549
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Speaker 1: the Earth, so that means that less time is passing

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Speaker 1: on the satellite seven microseconds per day as a as

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Speaker 1: a result. But because they're further out from the mass

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Speaker 1: of the Earth, then a clock would be here, you know,

553
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Speaker 1: close to the surface, their clocks are actually running faster

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Speaker 1: by about forty five micro seconds per day because of

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Speaker 1: general relativity. So if you take those two numbers the

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Speaker 1: the lag of second seven microsecon and the surplus of

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Speaker 1: forty five microseconds, and then you know, combine the two

558
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Speaker 1: to cancel them out. You are still left with a

559
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Speaker 1: thirty eight microseconds surplus per day on the satellites clock

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Speaker 1: compared to one on Earth. So that means that you

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Speaker 1: actually have to correct for that. All right, that's one

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Speaker 1: satellite that's orbiting Earth. Now imagine that on all the

563
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Speaker 1: spaceships traveling everywhere all the time. And that's why you

564
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Speaker 1: get to the point where keeping track of time is

565
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Speaker 1: an impossible act level. Yeah. So in the case of

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Speaker 1: Han Solo, again going back to that that Wired article

567
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Speaker 1: that Kyle Hill wrote, he started pointing out that assuming

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Speaker 1: that you're going at near the speed of light. He

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Speaker 1: went ahead and said, okay, you can't go faster than

570
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Speaker 1: speed of light. Yeah, let's let's that's right out. And

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Speaker 1: going at the speed of light is also impossible because

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Speaker 1: you would at that point have infinite density, density and mass.

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Speaker 1: So so that would be bad your mass. Your mass

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Speaker 1: increases as you get closer to the speed of light.

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Speaker 1: But if we say at infinitum, yeah, so it's going

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Speaker 1: a ballast pass. As as as that was close to

577
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Speaker 1: his speed of light as you possibly can imagine, this

578
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: is probably not ever it's probably not ever going to

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Speaker 1: be possible physically, but if you can imagine it um that,

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Speaker 1: then the castle run would take about half a day,

581
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Speaker 1: about so sixteen hours on the on the Millennium Falcon.

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Speaker 1: But then galactic time, assuming the galactic time is passing

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Speaker 1: at a standstone, forty years, so forty years would pass

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Speaker 1: in galactic time while on board the falcon, sixteen hours passes.

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Speaker 1: So they started to figure out, like, how much time

586
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Speaker 1: has passed in the gal in the galaxy since Han

587
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: Solo made his Kessel run, And then he started saying, well,

588
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: yeahs probably made a castle run more than once, so

589
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Speaker 1: if you start adding up the number of Kessel runs,

590
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Speaker 1: how much time has passed. And that's when he said, like,

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00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, you do two castle runs. And then he

592
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: had to have been born before characters who like you know,

593
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Speaker 1: So then you've got Han Solo predating all the characters

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Speaker 1: who were in the prequels. Uh, And it's because of

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Speaker 1: this special relativity problem. So, by the way, if he

596
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Speaker 1: were in fact able to travel faster than the speed

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Speaker 1: of light, it would mean that he would arrive at

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Speaker 1: his destination before he left math is fun. Yeah, so

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00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: so he would actually he would be on Kessel before

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Speaker 1: he had decided to make the Kessel run due to

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00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: the way this works. Not granted, nothing can go faster

602
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Speaker 1: than the speed of light. But you know, assuming they

603
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: have they have those those drives, those the hyper drives,

604
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: ret red con drives, the red con drives. Yes, those

605
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: work really well. Um where you just say, hey, look impossible,

606
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: let's change it. Let's look at the Wookie. Yeah, and

607
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: and so the stasis field was sort of the answer

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Speaker 1: to that, saying that the time does not pass differently

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Speaker 1: aboard the ship as it does in the outside galaxy,

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00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: which is fine except for the fact that again, remember,

611
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: every single planet has its own passage of time. Like

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Speaker 1: you know, a second feels like a second no matter

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00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: where you are, but it lasts shorter or longer depending

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Speaker 1: upon the planet's mass and its speed that it moves

615
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: through space. And also technically, I think that it would

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Speaker 1: be a little bit confusing to try to, you know,

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Speaker 1: call days out on a whole system of planets that

618
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: have different sons and different orbits and yeah, and and tattooing,

619
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: you've got two sons. One of them might always be up.

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00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: You never know. I mean, it's it gets complex and

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Speaker 1: uh yeah. And then you have all these other people

622
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Speaker 1: who are traveling around at nearer or faster than the

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Speaker 1: speed of lights, so time gets messed up for them too,

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Speaker 1: So time would be meaningless in this universe, which you know,

625
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: one could argue it's kind of meaningless now, but I

626
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: don't get that cynical except on Fridays, and it's a Thursday,

627
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: so I'm all right. Then again, there are also some

628
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: criticisms to things like the visual representation of what it

629
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: looks like to go into hyper space, which I thought

630
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: was so yeah, yeah, there there was a study that

631
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: was done by we did that study, I don't have

632
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: it in front of some students that Riley Connor's, Katy Dexter,

633
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: Joshua Argyle and Cameron's school are, and they said that

634
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Speaker 1: if you were to travel at the speed of light,

635
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: and not only would you not see those stars become streets,

636
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: they would become a cone of light. So the center

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00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: would be the brightest, and the further out from the cone,

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00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: the darker it would get. And uh and part of

639
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: that is because of the Doppler effect essentially, right, right,

640
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: that's that's that's blue shift and redshift. And yes, when

641
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: you're when you're when you're moving near the speed of

642
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Speaker 1: light or at the speed of light towards something, Um,

643
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: everything is going to shift towards the blue. Yeah. The

644
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: waves compressed because you're you're traveling toward the emanation of

645
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: those waves, so they are being compressed further and further.

646
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Speaker 1: In fact, they would be compressed so much as to

647
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Speaker 1: move outside the visible spectrum and then you would start

648
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: getting hit by lots of X rays, which would tell

649
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 1: you that your spaceship needs to have some real protection

650
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: built into it or else people are not going to

651
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: feel so great when they get to where they're going. U.

652
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: And that's an interesting point too. Yeah, And I didn't

653
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: even think about that until I read this little study

654
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: and I thought, well, that's pretty clever. Yeah, I guess.

655
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: So the doubler effect would would be something you'd have

656
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: to take into account, so it wouldn't look like those

657
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: stars flying by the way they do in the movies. UM.

658
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: So we wanted to talk a little bit conclude with

659
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: a discussion about some actual real propulsion systems besides chemical rockets.

660
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: Now we don't have a hyperdrive, which is unfortunate. We

661
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: would love to have one obviously, would be really handy,

662
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: you guys, get on that. Yeah, but right now we

663
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: don't have one. So some of the propulsion systems have

664
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Speaker 1: been proposed for for for space travel beyond. We're getting

665
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Speaker 1: outside the whole thing about launching off the Earth. I

666
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: mean that that part. You still pretty much need chemical rockets,

667
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: solid fuel rockets, uh to to provide the propulsion you

668
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: need to get off the planet, right, because the amount

669
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: of power involved what we can do with chemical right

670
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: now is a lot more. Um well, it gives a

671
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: lot more. A lot more, that's the that's the astronomical term,

672
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 1: and there's a plenty in a chemical rocket. These other

673
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: drives would be very useful once you do get up

674
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: into space where you don't have to have the considerations

675
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: of escaping a planet's gravity or battling its atmosphere in

676
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: order to maneuver right, because the thing about about these

677
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Speaker 1: chemical drives is that they are extremely wasteful in a

678
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Speaker 1: grand universal kind of scheme. You have to carry a

679
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: lot of fuel. They pack a lot of power, but

680
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: you have to carry an awful lot of It's not

681
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: terribly efficient. Uh, so they wouldn't last very long in

682
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things. If you're talking about trying

683
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: to travel vast different distances, not differences, but distances, then

684
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: the chemical uh rockets end up being really heavy and

685
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: that limits how much you can carry, which in turn

686
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: limits how far you can go. So without just coasting

687
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: like for example, the voice your satellites right right, which, hey,

688
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: just left the Solar system. Actually they didn't. They come back. Yeah, yeah,

689
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: they puto um no they that was that was a

690
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: little bit of a mismisquote in the press. Oh nice. Yeah,

691
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: Well I'm glad you. I'm glad you caught up on that,

692
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: because obviously I did not. I failed to tweet about it.

693
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: So well, I'm that's bad. Hey, no, it's okay. You

694
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: caught it on the podcast. So now our listeners can

695
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: say that vogo bomb she gives Strickland on task. So

696
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: one of the ones we want to talk about where

697
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Speaker 1: ion engines. Now ion engines they're using ions and so

698
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: that's charged particles. Um. You know, think of an atom

699
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: that's either either has an excess of electrons or a

700
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: deficit in electrons. So either way to got a negative

701
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: or positive charge. Plasma is an ionic gas, so it's

702
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: a gas that has these free ions moving through. It

703
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: means that you can actually pass electric current through the

704
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: gas itself. That's what a plasma is. A plasma, of course,

705
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: is the most plentiful of the states of matter in

706
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Speaker 1: the universe as far as we are aware. And UM

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Speaker 1: and so the ion engines use electric fields rather than

708
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Speaker 1: chemical reactions to create propulsion. And they're not as powerful

709
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Speaker 1: as chemical engines, so they don't give you that the

710
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: chemical engines do, but they are way more efficient, and

711
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: so they can last ages. And they use that they

712
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: have solar energy to provide that. Yeah, they get the

713
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Speaker 1: solar energy to provide electricity to help create these reactions

714
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: that will create the ions that that propel it. So

715
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Speaker 1: they have these big solar panels that will unfold from

716
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Speaker 1: the spacecraft. We've already launched some spacecraft using ion engines.

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Speaker 1: The Dawn spacecraft, which launched on September twenty seven, two

718
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Speaker 1: thousand seven, has ion engines and uses the solar panels

719
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Speaker 1: to get the electricity UM it's destination had to actually,

720
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: but the second destination, the ultimate destination, is a dwarf

721
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Speaker 1: planet series and it's scheduled to arrive there in February.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, visiting the NASA pages about this spacecraft, I

723
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: saw some interesting figures. One was that it is a

724
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: six point three billion kilometer journey, and just so that

725
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: you get an idea of how far that is compared

726
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: to a light year. A light year is nine point

727
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: four trillion kilometers, so six point three billion kilometers still

728
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: nowhere near a light year. So it assuming that it

729
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Speaker 1: arrives on the first of February, in which you know,

730
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Speaker 1: that's I just took as an arbitrary it will have

731
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Speaker 1: flown for seven years, five months, and two days to

732
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Speaker 1: go those six point three billion kilometers. So I did

733
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Speaker 1: some I did some silly little math which was that

734
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Speaker 1: six million, six point three billion kilometers ends up being

735
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: six point three trillion meters. And then you have to

736
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Speaker 1: figure out how many seconds are in seven years, five months,

737
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Speaker 1: and two days. So I did two hundred three six

738
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Speaker 1: million hundred seconds. So if you do the math, then

739
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: that means that the average speed, and this is you know,

740
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Speaker 1: just an average because it does change, is twenty six

741
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Speaker 1: five nine seven meters per second. Based on the information

742
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Speaker 1: that I was able to find, so uhby I mean

743
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: not shabby, but still nowhere near the schools of the falcon. Uh.

744
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: But it also used about uses. The Dawn's engine used

745
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: fos of xenon fuel, being a neutral ly charged yeah,

746
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: and it used that the solar array to to ionize

747
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: everything's uh. And the solar array at one astronomical unit

748
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: provided about ten point three kilowatts of power. Uh. An

749
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: astronomical unit, by the way, is one million, seven thousand

750
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: and seventy one KOs. And you might say, well, what

751
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: the heck kind of measurement is that, Well, that's the

752
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: mean distance between the Earth and the Sun. Because the

753
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: distance actually changes throughout the Earth's rotation around the Sun,

754
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: it's not always exactly that far away. That's the mean.

755
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: So that's what we decided to define as an astronomical unit.

756
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: And I'm sure any aliens will be happy to take

757
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 1: us up on a discussion of why that's very human centric. Yeah, yes,

758
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: an astronomical unit is exactly the distance between your star

759
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: and your planet. Really enlightened guys, I mean I think

760
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: that they'll really take onto it like parsex. Yeah, they'll

761
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: be right up there. They're like I was having this

762
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: discussion with my Buddy eight parsex Ago like, oh, come on, like, hey,

763
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: I know how this goes, because I watched your Star

764
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: Wars documentary. So at the maximum thrust, Don's ion engine

765
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: expands about point to five ms of xenon per day,

766
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Speaker 1: and that produces a thrust of ninety two million Newton's,

767
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: which NASA explains is about the amount of force you

768
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Speaker 1: feel when you put a piece of paper on your

769
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Speaker 1: open hand. That's the amount of force which sounds so

770
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: incredibly unimpressive when you write, but in the in the

771
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: in the environment of space is plenty enough. And uh

772
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: so it says that the thrust changes the space crest

773
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: velocity about oh ten to the negative five meters per

774
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Speaker 1: second every second, and after about a thousand days, it

775
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: would achieve a velocity of a thousand meters per second.

776
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: So because there's no dragon space exactly. Yeah, so anyway, yeah,

777
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: about a thousand meters a second after a thousand days.

778
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: So that that that speed I gave you the twenty

779
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Speaker 1: six thousand seven per second. Obviously, again that's a that's

780
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: just averaging it out over the full distance. In fact,

781
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: it's just constantly accelerating, uh, not always at that particular speed.

782
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: But it will be or at that particular rate. I

783
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't say it's accelerating at that speed. That's totally not misleading,

784
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: but at that rate. So yeah, that's that's one of

785
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: the ones that we're looking at. Now. There's also other

786
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: forms of propulsion that have been proposed, like solar sales. Again,

787
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: not something that's going to get you from Earth's solar

788
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: system to a distant solar system anytime quickly. Um, it's

789
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: more of a very efficient means of travel by harnessing photons.

790
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: The photons hit the solar sale and that's what provides

791
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: the propulsion to move the craft forward, which sounds kind

792
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: of incredible you think about that. You know, how much

793
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: kinetic energy can a photon have? Uh And and it

794
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: may surprise some of you to know that photons have

795
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: kinetic energy, but but that's true. I mean the Earth actually,

796
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: when the sun is hitting you, you weigh a little

797
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: more because the light is actually hitting again. Yeah, yeah,

798
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: that's why I never go outside. I don't like getting

799
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: pushed around by the sun or by nobody. And so, uh,

800
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: then I wanted to mention there's a theoretical engine. There's

801
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: there's a few theoretical engines. Yeah, the one that I

802
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: came across was an electromagnetic gravity drive by Yachoum Howser.

803
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: That's just a guess because I don't know how to

804
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: pronounce that name. I do not either. That sounds great

805
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: to me. Well, he's a physicist and a professor of

806
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: computer science at the University Applied Sciences in a solve

807
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: skitter and uh. And then he worked with Volter Drusher,

808
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: who was an Austrian patent officer, and they came up

809
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: with an idea that would use an electro magnet, essentially

810
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: a rotating ring above a super conducting coil, and then

811
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: they would pump a lot of electricity through the coil,

812
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: which would then create a magnetic field. Because we know

813
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: about the relationship between coils, electricity and then magnets magnets,

814
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: you know you can you can either if you run

815
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: electricity through a coil, you'll create a magnetic field. If

816
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: you run a coil through a magnetic field that's alternating

817
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: or that's that's uh, that's changing over time, a dynamic

818
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: magnetic field, you will induce current to flow through the coil.

819
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: That's this relationship between electricity and magnets. Thus the electro

820
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: magnetism that magnetic field will quote reduce the gravitational pull

821
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Speaker 1: on the ring to the point where it floats free

822
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: end quote. Uh. And that theoretically you could go from

823
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: Earth to Mars and about three hours using this in

824
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: a way that makes no sense to me. I mean,

825
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: it's it's talking about a The math requires that you

826
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 1: actually have extra dimensions to make it all makes sense.

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Speaker 1: And you know, in the in the standard model, we

828
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: essentially think of four dimensions, three in space and one

829
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: in time. But this would require two more dimensions, would

830
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: also end up in requiring extra fundamental forces besides the

831
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Speaker 1: strong and weak nuclear force, electromagnetic and gravity that we

832
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: are familiar with, there be two more and uh. And

833
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: it's possible that these things exist, but it's so far

834
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: exists as far as math goes, and not observation right right,

835
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: even even lower down or even though it drowning down

836
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: on the scale. There's a few other things that people

837
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: have kind of theorized about. One one is called um

838
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: this is probably not how you say it. Qber's warp

839
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: drive is the thing that NASA has talked about a

840
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: little bit, which which kind of kind of is similar

841
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: to the Doppler effect. It says that if you can

842
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: get space time to expand behind you in contract in

843
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: front of you, you can just kind of warp straight

844
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: through it. So, in other words, think of it this way.

845
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: You've gotta like imagine you have a map in front

846
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: of you, all right, a paper map, and you have

847
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 1: put a figuring on the leftmost edge of the paper map,

848
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: and your job is to get the figuring to the

849
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: right most edge and the least number of die rolls,

850
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: and there their spaces there that that represent how far

851
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: you can go. So uh, normally there would be a

852
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: hundred spaces between you and the and the right side,

853
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: and you're only able to roll the die x number

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Speaker 1: if you were able to fold the edge of the

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Speaker 1: roll a one and you move one space, and then

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Speaker 1: you unfold the map, you have just moved one space,

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Speaker 1: but you've traveled all that distance. That's the magic of

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Speaker 1: warp drive. People. We're talking about folding all of the

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Speaker 1: galaxy around us to accommodate our travel needs. And people say,

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Speaker 1: I'm a demanding traveler, but so so that's that's one.

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Speaker 1: You know, it sounds super easy on paper. Um, I

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Speaker 1: just explained that. Um. And the other being a being

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Speaker 1: creating wormholes. Um. You know, you know, a wormhole being

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Speaker 1: kind of a pokey thing through its shortcut on a

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Speaker 1: paper map. If you, if you, if you took instead

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Speaker 1: of a little figuring, you had a pointy figuring or

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Speaker 1: pencil straight through the two points in the map that

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Speaker 1: you wanted to travel between, and then sort of hit

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Speaker 1: hopped through the holes. So there's still some travel time,

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Speaker 1: but it's much more reduced. It's this is where we

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Speaker 1: get wibbly wobbly timmy whimy right right. But but hypothetically,

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Speaker 1: all we would have to do is build two super

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Speaker 1: dense rings giant super dense rings, charge them somehow, and

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Speaker 1: spin them near the speed of light. Oh that's easy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no problem. So the interesting thing here, by the way,

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Speaker 1: is that when we're talking about warping space, when we're

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Speaker 1: talking about actually moving or manipulating the space time continuum

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Speaker 1: or however you want to fabric break of space itself,

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Speaker 1: we actually get around the special relativity problem because your

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Speaker 1: actual speed doesn't need to be light speed. You are

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Speaker 1: just changing the distance and not changing You're not going

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Speaker 1: at this incredible speed. So time is still gonna travel

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Speaker 1: or stimes. Time is still going to pass differently relative

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Speaker 1: to someone on a different ship or a different planet,

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Speaker 1: but not at the amazing differences. You wouldn't need an

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Speaker 1: infinite amount of energy to move yourself, and you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have an infinite amount of masks. And you also wouldn't

891
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Speaker 1: find out when you call back home that everyone you

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Speaker 1: know is forty years older. Uh, they might be, you know,

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Speaker 1: a few micro seconds older than you, but it would be,

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Speaker 1: you know, so small as to not as to be negligible,

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Speaker 1: except for things like communication and stuff where you have

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Speaker 1: to have exact timing. Obviously you have to have computers

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Speaker 1: to correct those calculations. But when it comes to, you know,

898
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Speaker 1: missing someone's birthday, you don't have to worry so much.

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Speaker 1: Daylight saving time would probably interesting. So anyway, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are people who are working on these theoretical drives.

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Speaker 1: It may turn out that the theories are just they're

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Speaker 1: they're not truly like theories in the sense of this

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Speaker 1: is really established stuff. We're just working more hYP they're

904
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Speaker 1: more like hypotheses that we have yet to prove um.

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Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see if we ever do

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Speaker 1: develop anything beyond the propulsion systems that we're currently looking into. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it would obviously be very helpful for anything

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Speaker 1: involving colonization or exploration, because otherwise it's going to take

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Speaker 1: us a really long time to get Yeah, you you

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Speaker 1: would have to build spacecraft capable of supporting multiple generations

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Speaker 1: of people aboard that with a very limited number of supplies,

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Speaker 1: because you know, you pretty much you have what you

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Speaker 1: take with you. You know, you know, most we don't

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Speaker 1: know of any shopping malls out there beyond Earth. You

915
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Speaker 1: have to have to grow it yourself up. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: that that kind of wraps up this discussion about uh,

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Speaker 1: Star Wars and hyperspace, the Kessel Run, what we're actually

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Speaker 1: looking into as means of propulsion in space. It's a

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Speaker 1: really interesting topic. I'm glad that we we grabbed this

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Speaker 1: one as our first episode, and hey, to all my

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Speaker 1: Star Wars fans out there, I just have to say,

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Speaker 1: live long and prosper. So yeah, if you guys want

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Speaker 1: Twitter that I was making a Babylon five reference. Just

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Speaker 1: now are handled there and say that I think pretty

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Speaker 1: sure it was the master. Um. Just drop me a

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