Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to fantasy pros. This is out of bounds.
Speaker 1: It is me, Joey p Joe Pizzapia with me as
Speaker 1: always a bogman in the Welsh. We're here to talk
Speaker 1: a little football, have some fun. A lot to get
Speaker 1: to in week four, a lot to look forward to,
Speaker 1: I think in week five, some bye weeks approaching, some
Speaker 1: quarterback situations in flux, and some tough els for a
Speaker 1: lot of teams to eat last week in the NFL.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna talk about fantasy. We can talk about
Speaker 1: the injuries. We're gonna talk about Benning. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about everything because that's what we're here for. And gentlemen,
Speaker 1: the first thing I want to talk about is a
Speaker 1: bet that I made before the season started. There was
Speaker 1: a number once upon a time. That number was nine
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five and a half. That was the
Speaker 1: number of yards rushing for Derrick Henry that Vegas set
Speaker 1: and a young Joe piez Apia back in August of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, just so many many hours man years ago,
Speaker 1: a young man who had a lot of hair, uh,
Speaker 1: he made that wager. And last night, Bogman, I think
Speaker 1: I think Derrick Henry got pretty much all of that. Like,
Speaker 1: I think I got two yards left after yesterday.
Speaker 2: Got one hundred and ninety nine of it last night,
Speaker 2: So that eighty seven yard touchdown run, I don't know. Finally,
Speaker 2: I guess is what we should say for Derick Henry
Speaker 2: because we were kind of waiting for this huge performance.
Speaker 2: But when the lights are on, Derrick Henry shows, a
Speaker 2: lot of.
Speaker 3: People were jumping off that bandwagon. Just want to say
Speaker 3: a lot of people concerned about it. I also want
Speaker 3: to point out, Joey, I had only one preseason futures bet,
Speaker 3: and I parlayed Sekwon Barkley and Derrick Henry's rushing yards together.
Speaker 3: It's my only preseason one I really felt comfortable with.
Speaker 3: And that's something because I don't know about you guys.
Speaker 3: Week four stunk every which way. It was like Median Fantasy,
Speaker 3: my worst betting week. Everything was just block, guys are
Speaker 3: getting hurt, knee caps are falling off. It was awful
Speaker 3: everything about it. The only thing I got to to
Speaker 3: sit with is like, oh yeah, that Derrick Henry's side
Speaker 3: of the bet, which I was a little bit worried
Speaker 3: about early on. That's riding mighty mighty pretty well.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Normally, running backs will get older go
Speaker 1: to other teams. I typically stay away. I stay away
Speaker 1: from Joe Mixon. I got zero shares, Josh Jacobs, zero shares.
Speaker 1: Guy still doesn't have a touchdown. We're four weeks into
Speaker 1: the season. Dereck Henry is not the rule. He's the exception.
Speaker 1: When you have a player I know he was thirty
Speaker 1: years old, I know all those things. When you have
Speaker 1: somebody that's a special talent going to a situation that
Speaker 1: is so built for him to succeed, it's a no
Speaker 1: brainer to take that risk. And it wasn't even a risk.
Speaker 1: And you know, this is not like a piling on
Speaker 1: kind of thing. This is just a matter of understanding
Speaker 1: that the practice is still good. The idea of a
Speaker 1: guy turning twenty nine, thirty years old who is moving
Speaker 1: to another team, when a team gets rid of them,
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna be lesser versions of themselves. However,
Speaker 1: when you have a transformational, generational talent like Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: who's going to a situation that is arguably and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it is it's the best offense he has
Speaker 1: ever played, with an entire career set up. For a
Speaker 1: man who has his skills set, it's a no brainer
Speaker 1: to draft him early in offense, So kudos to Derek Henry.
Speaker 1: I know Bodmin loves me starting the show off today
Speaker 1: with the Ravens, that's for sure. But that's okay Boggs,
Speaker 1: because we're gonna get to Justin Fields too. Offensive line
Speaker 1: not great for the Steelers chef for the year now,
Speaker 1: well at least, that's depressing, so thank thank you for
Speaker 1: sharing that news. But yes, Justin Fields in the second
Speaker 1: half scoring touchdowns with his legs, throwing for a season
Speaker 1: high yardage total. Boggs, He's a.
Speaker 2: First quarterback for the Steelers, Joe, first quarterback for the
Speaker 2: Steelers that has accounted for three touchdowns since Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1: That's pretty sad and amazing at the same time. But
Speaker 1: think about this too. Justin Fields right now I think
Speaker 1: fifth or sixth in fantasy points per game. Again, the
Speaker 1: week's not over. Aget on the season. I made him
Speaker 1: the number one waiver wire out of the Week this
Speaker 1: week because I look at all the other guys, the Dubtle's,
Speaker 1: the wandel Robinson's, the Wicks, like these are all guys
Speaker 1: you can start, and guys you have varying levels of
Speaker 1: comfort with and you know viability. But then there's Justin Field,
Speaker 1: who if he continues to play anything close to this,
Speaker 1: he's going to win people leagues. He's gonna be twenty
Speaker 1: five points a week. He is a guy that can
Speaker 1: separate you. I don't think Russell Wilson next week gets
Speaker 1: this job back. I don't think we see Russell Wilson again,
Speaker 1: no matter what, what are your thoughts? I know they lost,
Speaker 1: but still Justin Field's man. From a fantasy perspective, he
Speaker 1: looks like a league winner and he's only rostered in
Speaker 1: about forty percent of leagues.
Speaker 2: My first thought is, why don't you call a damn
Speaker 2: timeout on fourth and ten to set up your offense before?
Speaker 2: That's stupid play. That's my first thought. But my second
Speaker 2: thought is, look, Justin Fields looks great. And Justin Fields,
Speaker 2: even as a bad quarterback, has always been a good
Speaker 2: fantasy player because of the legs, and he is easily
Speaker 2: the number one goal line threat because Naji is Stevie
Speaker 2: wonderback there. This dude cannot see a hole to save
Speaker 2: his life. It's just he he has no vision running.
Speaker 2: I'm so sick of nause I didn't think I would
Speaker 2: get to this point, but he's been so unbelievably bad.
Speaker 2: He looked good at the end of last season. He
Speaker 2: looked horrible at the beginning. Maybe it's just the beginning thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on with him, but he
Speaker 2: looks terrible. Corderillo Patterson looked better running the ball than him.
Speaker 2: So Justin Fields is the running threat at the goal
Speaker 2: line for this team, and as he continues to be
Speaker 2: the quarterback year, him and Pickens are are making great
Speaker 2: decisions together. I just he's he's gonna score a lot
Speaker 2: of touchdowns. He's going to be very productive. So he's
Speaker 2: a great fantasy option. And you're completely how do you go?
Speaker 2: How do you go to Russell Wilson. You have to
Speaker 2: lose a game. He'd have to turn the ball over
Speaker 2: four times, like he would have to perform unbelievably horribly
Speaker 2: for them to go to Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: Injury. It's only injury at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, or really terrible performance, even really terrible.
Speaker 1: I just don't think you make that move. He's not
Speaker 1: the only young quarterback to talk about, though, because the
Speaker 1: number one Q right now in fantasy. It's not Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: It's certainly not Patrick Mahomes right now, that's for sure, Welsh,
Speaker 1: It's Jaden Daniels on the year, eight hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: seven yards passing three touchdowns. He's also got two hundred
Speaker 1: and eighteen yards rushing, four rushing touchdowns. The last two weeks,
Speaker 1: he's been unbelievable, just absolutely fantastic. Twenty eight points, twenty
Speaker 1: five points. Talk to me about what you saw yesterday
Speaker 1: against Arizona. What you think we're gonna see this coming
Speaker 1: week against Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, he has six total incompletions over his last
Speaker 3: two games. Like, think about that. That's Bizerco. I mean,
Speaker 3: I gotta eat my words a little bit because though
Speaker 3: it wasn't like a starting sick question, Ericson and I
Speaker 3: was doing the early side you and I switched on
Speaker 3: the Sunday morning. So I was with Ericson on the
Speaker 3: livestream pre Sunday games, and I was kind of talking
Speaker 3: up Jayden Daniels. But it then inadvertently turned into this
Speaker 3: Jade Daniels Versus Lamar Jackson situation because I told him
Speaker 3: I had Jadan Daniels at three this week, and he
Speaker 3: was like, wait a minute, what about Lamara. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I got Lamar at four, and then we kind of
Speaker 3: had that like pseudo bet. Lamar obviously went off, but
Speaker 3: also like Jing Daniels kind of presented this floor two
Speaker 3: thirty three had a passing touchdown forty seven yards. By
Speaker 3: the way, his rushing prop was forty seven and a half.
Speaker 4: Lol.
Speaker 3: He had a rushing touchdown having the combination of not
Speaker 3: just one of the skills. Unfortunately, that's been the Lamar
Speaker 3: thing for a long time, where he's this just absolutely
Speaker 3: dynamic runner that has this big arm, but is inaccurate
Speaker 3: and makes bad decisions. Jing Daniels at this early stage
Speaker 3: of the career does not have that. He's massively efficient.
Speaker 3: This is why I was buying Terry McLaurin two weeks ago.
Speaker 3: He's getting everybody involved and when he doesn't, he's running
Speaker 3: the ball. And guess what, they found this great running
Speaker 3: game in Brian Robinson who went over one hundred. It's
Speaker 3: the perfect storm. The only thing they're missing is better
Speaker 3: depth as far as pass catchers. They would really benefit
Speaker 3: from going and getting someone to play really solidly on
Speaker 3: the side of Terry McLaurin, But Jade McDaniels moving forward
Speaker 3: has to be seen as McDaniels daniels. I did McDaniels,
Speaker 3: Jade and daniels McDaniels as a top five quarterback rest
Speaker 3: of season, he's a number five. Get a McDaniels for
Speaker 3: number five today?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want what's your dipping sauce for the Nuggets?
Speaker 1: See sweet and sour? That's the right answer. We got
Speaker 1: some injuries to talk about the headlines. Before we get
Speaker 1: to some of the injuries, let's get to some of
Speaker 1: you waiting out there to hang out with us here
Speaker 1: on the discord. Corn Wallace McAdoo, if that is your
Speaker 1: real name, you're up with us on mute yourself. What
Speaker 1: do you have? Corn Wallace?
Speaker 5: Hey, what's up? Guys?
Speaker 1: That's your real name? Right? I mean I can only
Speaker 1: assume yeah, obviously, sure, obviously, Okay, who.
Speaker 5: Would who would pick that ridiculous name as an avatar name?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You're talking to a guy named Joe
Speaker 1: Pieza Piaso.
Speaker 5: I mean, all right, so I have two things like
Speaker 5: one because this is like the more anecdotal show, the
Speaker 5: one time fan see football is fun for me. Last week.
Speaker 5: I went to the Bengals Commander's game and I was
Speaker 5: down by twenty something points and I had Brian Thomas
Speaker 5: Junior or Terry McLaurin to play. I basically just went
Speaker 5: with Terry McLaurin because I was going to the game,
Speaker 5: and he actually ended up winning me my game on
Speaker 5: that last touchdown.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's fun. That's great. That window was shut by
Speaker 1: the way to buy on Terry McLaurin that Welsh was
Speaker 1: mentioning earlier. So that's excellent. That that's somebody having fun
Speaker 1: living life. Good job, cornwallis what else you got?
Speaker 5: Okay? So the other thing is, and this kind of
Speaker 5: goes a little bit into like, your guys is justin
Speaker 5: fields preamble, but I played justin fields this week. But
Speaker 5: traditionally in our league he hasn't been a great starter
Speaker 5: because there's a lot of stuff with like sacks being
Speaker 5: putitive and like in completions being putitive and over his acts.
Speaker 1: That was a kind of like lee average.
Speaker 2: Right, So.
Speaker 1: I was kind of like curious, like, do you guys consider.
Speaker 5: Like Sam Darnald to be a pretty solid QB one
Speaker 5: going forward?
Speaker 1: And would you trade for him?
Speaker 5: And because I'm kind of debating whether or not I
Speaker 5: want to keep rolling Fields or make a play for
Speaker 5: Sam Donald.
Speaker 1: Look, I would just keep rolling Fields. Personally, Welsh, where
Speaker 1: are you out with this one? Rest of season? Would
Speaker 1: you rather have Fields or Donald? I mean, Donald's been
Speaker 1: really good. I can understand if you want to just
Speaker 1: both of those quarterbacks neither of them. Would I feel
Speaker 1: comfortable just having one quarterback because I feel like at
Speaker 1: any moment, you know, disaster could strike. But so far
Speaker 1: I've seen enough Adam confident in both of them to
Speaker 1: be good. What are your thoughts, Well, should you rather
Speaker 1: have rest of season? Donald or Fields?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You kind of hit on something that, like I feel
Speaker 3: is like I don't really know if I'd feel massively
Speaker 3: confident with either one of them rest of season full on.
Speaker 3: And I also don't think I'm as like Pollyanna as
Speaker 3: you guys are about the Justin Fields conversation earlier, where
Speaker 3: it was just oh, like he's fine, like he's rushing
Speaker 3: a lot, and he's beneficient and stuff, But like, I
Speaker 3: don't know this feelers often weapons are kind of black ish,
Speaker 3: and there is Russell Wilson. That's I don't think Russell
Speaker 3: Wilson's taking anything away. But I just don't think that
Speaker 3: Justin Fields is a lock every single week. I really don't.
Speaker 3: Like there's some passing matchups where George Pickens is not
Speaker 3: going to get open. When Pickens is taken out of
Speaker 3: the game, that's a problem they're running game nause stinks
Speaker 3: they got Jalen Warren, So I don't think he is safe.
Speaker 3: I think he's an awesome matchup play if you think
Speaker 3: they're gonna be like really well behind or they're paying
Speaker 3: playing a really poor defense. But back to the answer,
Speaker 3: I'll go Sam Donald Overfields, and I would feel probably
Speaker 3: more comfortable having them both. But I also say, like
Speaker 3: in trading for Sam, I'm not sure if I want
Speaker 3: to go trade for a Sam Donald, what is that
Speaker 3: gonna cost you. I'm not saying that's gonna cost a lot,
Speaker 3: but like, eh, those middling quarterbacks, Like do you want
Speaker 3: to go trade for a guy like that? Like I
Speaker 3: would just slightly rather have him than Fields, But I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's enough to you.
Speaker 1: Know, Boggs, how about you Fields or Donald?
Speaker 2: For you so real quick, I just want to read
Speaker 2: you a tweet that I got four days ago. Joe
Speaker 2: it says, shout out to Bogman's This is from Fantasy
Speaker 2: Football for Winners among Fantasy Pros collection of two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty experts. He and I were the only people
Speaker 2: to rank Sam Donald as a top twenty QB. So
Speaker 2: I am all in on Sam Donald. I think he
Speaker 2: is still a good quarterback. I think he's behind one
Speaker 2: of the better offensive lines playing right now in the
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings. That defense is on point, and he has
Speaker 2: Jefferson healthy Addison, They're gonna get Hawkinson back now, and
Speaker 2: both these running backs are great at catching the pass
Speaker 2: in Aaron Jones and ty Chandler. So I think with
Speaker 2: those guys, I think Sam Donald's set up for success
Speaker 2: for the rest of the year. And then no one
Speaker 2: is pushing him. There's no Russell Wilson if he falters
Speaker 2: for two or three weeks straight. So I'm all about
Speaker 2: Sam Donald.
Speaker 1: I think Donald is safer. But again, I mean ptalizing
Speaker 1: quarterbacks for taking sacks and fantasy is just stupid. It's
Speaker 1: bad fantasy. Don't do it, Savage. What's up, buddy? How's
Speaker 1: it going? Hey man? Go on, good? What's happening? What
Speaker 1: can we do for you today? On this beautiful Monday morning.
Speaker 7: Well, first and foremost, I don't I don't know that
Speaker 7: my day could be any better. I woke up yesterday
Speaker 7: and decided that I was going to play It's the
Speaker 7: three leg Parlay. First touchdown scorer Marvin Harrison, first touchdown
Speaker 7: scorer Mike Evans, Jayden reed anytime. Let's just say that
Speaker 7: I got a nice little bonus check yesterday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent, there you go, man. You know it's funny.
Speaker 1: Touchdown Parlay saved my day of betting because I got
Speaker 1: hosed on a couple of games there that were really
Speaker 1: tight at the end. Stupid Cleveland Browns couldn't get out
Speaker 1: of their own way, and the Rams too. I mean,
Speaker 1: they had opportunities to win that game time and time again.
Speaker 1: Kaileab Williams was terrible and what saved me Terry McLaurin
Speaker 1: Touchdown Parlay along with Jamar Chase and Justin Fields was
Speaker 1: a nice day. It saved the day there. So the
Speaker 1: touchdown Parlay's great way to go. We're going to talk
Speaker 1: about our touchdowns, Savage, any other fantasy stuff or just
Speaker 1: the humble brag about the big betting day.
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously the humble Brad's always nice. Let me
Speaker 7: ask you this, where do you guys writingsday Worthy? Now,
Speaker 7: considering that Rashi Rice pretty much, you know, got turned
Speaker 7: into a chicken walker yesterday with his leg pumping backwards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mahomes took out his own guy there. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about that, because that was actually next on the list
Speaker 1: of things to talk about is what does it do
Speaker 1: to Xavier Worthy in terms of his value Scott Bogman.
Speaker 1: But also, look, I don't think as currently constituted, this
Speaker 1: Chiefs team has enough. I've seen the DeAndre Hopkins memes
Speaker 1: already in the Chiefs Jersey. I'm sure there'll be a
Speaker 1: couple guys that are gonna be out there and available.
Speaker 1: I do think the Chiefs will make a move if
Speaker 1: Rice isn't deat out for the year, which certainly looks
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be extended period of time at the
Speaker 1: very least, soapbogs Worthy's value. And then where the Chiefs
Speaker 1: go from here.
Speaker 2: I think this is a slight bump to Worthy, right,
Speaker 2: because I mean, that's a lot of targets that were
Speaker 2: going to Rashi Rice that are going to go all
Speaker 2: over the place. But in the direction of where Rashi
Speaker 2: Rice plays. I think most of those are going to
Speaker 2: go towards Travis Kelce like we saw last week. Noah
Speaker 2: Gray also had his most targets and yards in last
Speaker 2: week's game as well, So I think everybody gets a
Speaker 2: little bumped with Rashi Rice out in the Chiefs offense.
Speaker 2: But like you said, Joe, I mean, you know, there's
Speaker 2: trades that could be made. Hopkins is out there, people
Speaker 2: are you know all these rumors. You're not getting DeVante
Speaker 2: from the Chiefs, but there are other guys that could
Speaker 2: become available as well, So we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 2: I think it's a slight bump across the board for everybody.
Speaker 2: I don't know that there's one guy outside of Kelsey
Speaker 2: that gets way more work though you.
Speaker 3: Know who had there. Let me, I was talking with
Speaker 3: Eric this weekend. I want to send Brandon Ayuk there.
Speaker 3: That's why I want to send to the Kansas City.
Speaker 3: I don't this is that uh, this is that meme
Speaker 3: where it's just what would you say this office face?
Speaker 3: What would you say you do here? You gave him
Speaker 3: that money. He doesn't run routes exceptionally, it looks like
Speaker 3: anymore he doesn't make any explosive plays. He doesn't find separation.
Speaker 3: He sulks when a pass has to be in any
Speaker 3: type of contention. And all Juwan Jennings does is continuously
Speaker 3: make amazing plays. So I would love to see Brandon
Speaker 3: Ayuk in Kansas City. Get him out.
Speaker 1: I mean, what an incredible turnaround here. Welsh is gone
Speaker 1: full heel. Is this the same Welsh bogman that was
Speaker 1: saying over and over again, Brandon Ayuk's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: He's our guy.
Speaker 3: That's not about Brandon Ayuk. That's not me like glazing
Speaker 3: Brandon Ayuk or anything like that. That's saying The forty
Speaker 3: nine ers I think are not christ I don't even
Speaker 3: think Stayers are going to make some stupid move that
Speaker 3: everybody thought where they're like, oh look look a third
Speaker 3: room people. No, they're not going to do that. They're
Speaker 3: trying to win a super Bowl. But now, I mean,
Speaker 3: they're still not going to do this, but it is
Speaker 3: it is laughable watching him play there. I think Brandon
Speaker 3: Ayuke would thrive in Kansas City. I don't think Kansas
Speaker 3: City is going to get anybody though, By the way,
Speaker 3: I think they're that type of team. They love justin Watson.
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, juju, we can make him efficient. I
Speaker 3: think they love the pieces and they're not going to
Speaker 3: go and trade for anything of significance because what's available
Speaker 3: out there for teams that are really out of it,
Speaker 3: like a L. Cooper, maybe the Browns are one and three,
Speaker 3: there's not enough teams that are out of it that
Speaker 3: they would want a player that could replace Rashie. Rice
Speaker 3: is actually v like I would make.
Speaker 1: Hopkins does make the most sense. He's a veteran, he's
Speaker 1: on his last I mean, I would have say DeVonta
Speaker 1: Adams because we all know he doesn't want to play
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas anymore. But they're not going to trade
Speaker 1: him in the division, Like that's not gonna happen. So
Speaker 1: Hopkins is the guy that you go, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: another couple losses, next thing you know, it's like, come on,
Speaker 1: let's just move them on. Give it a shot here
Speaker 1: to play for something.
Speaker 2: I think a trade for Kansas City is a little
Speaker 2: more likely than Welsh's making it out to be. Not
Speaker 2: I think most of the time it wouldn't be. But
Speaker 2: I think it is because they lost Rice and Marquise Brown,
Speaker 2: and so that's like two of their three starring wide
Speaker 2: receivers in terms of their plan, right, so I think who.
Speaker 1: Like Who's reach look, I mean a couple more hotels
Speaker 1: for the look. I don't think it would Allen. I
Speaker 1: could see that Harding ways. That's some on Boing two
Speaker 1: because if you're the Bears, you're you're not winning this
Speaker 1: year and day has been very good, so you know
Speaker 1: you could certainly survive that. I think if you're the or,
Speaker 1: you'd rather have more draft capital.
Speaker 3: But the Bears and tell them that they're two and
Speaker 3: oh at home, they're two and two so far right now.
Speaker 4: I don't think there's trade anybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but real quick, the trade deadline is November fifth,
Speaker 2: So that's that's the date that you know, if someone
Speaker 2: is one in six, you know, uh, going into the
Speaker 2: one and seven around that day, you know, those are
Speaker 2: the teams that you're you're going to No. One soon
Speaker 2: And by the why would you do it soon? Anyway,
Speaker 2: Let's see what it looks like with Worthy, they still
Speaker 2: won their game, right, so let's game plan without or
Speaker 2: she rise without Marquise Brown and see what it looks like.
Speaker 2: So I think it would be closer to the trade deadline.
Speaker 2: I just don't think it's an impossibility. It is for
Speaker 2: right now. I don't think anybody is trading because you know,
Speaker 2: the NFL is Jerry Glanville taught us a long time ago,
Speaker 2: stands for not for long. So uh, you know, you
Speaker 2: start out bad, you can be good. There's too much
Speaker 2: changing that is going to happen. I think you're right
Speaker 2: about that wells. But I do think that there could
Speaker 2: be a a move made close to you.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of more what I was saying. By
Speaker 3: the way, It's like how it sounded you guys were
Speaker 3: talking like they're going to make a trade tomorrow. Like,
Speaker 3: I don't think you'll see anything for a couple of
Speaker 3: weeks and then maybe something.
Speaker 1: It's weeks. And I don't think they're gonna sit on
Speaker 1: their hands either. I just don't see that.
Speaker 2: I think they'll explore, but I think teams are going
Speaker 2: to try to hold them over the barrel and all
Speaker 2: that stuff.
Speaker 3: No one else to see them. It's a dynasty.
Speaker 4: It's gross.
Speaker 1: It's fine. I mean again, you need the draft picks
Speaker 1: and people, I mean those the organizations love the draft picks.
Speaker 1: They don't know what to do with them. But they
Speaker 1: love having the draft picks. That's for damn sure. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's get to another injury again. Stop me if you
Speaker 1: heard this one before. Jonathan Taylor's hurt. No kidding, everybody,
Speaker 1: Another year, another injury for Jonathan Taylor, Trey Sermon, next
Speaker 1: Man Up Welsh Last year, everybody was hanging their head
Speaker 1: and they said, Zach Moss gross. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Zach Moss became like a fantasy g for a short
Speaker 1: period of time there. Do you think there's any possibility
Speaker 1: Trey Sermon does that or is this just kind of
Speaker 1: like now just next Man Up grows terrible?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: I mean I think I watched Trey Sermon in San
Speaker 3: Francisco a whole bunch. I mean, he loves to fall
Speaker 3: in his face and two yards and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Like's not he's not a super great running back, but
Speaker 3: if they're creating really big holes, that helps, It would help.
Speaker 3: I'm being completely honest. Joe Flacco probably makes him better
Speaker 3: because I think defenses have to account more for them
Speaker 3: actually throwing the ball deep. There's like little glimmers of
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson this week, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: like yeah, that he can pull some breakaway stuff. I
Speaker 3: think he can absolutely be fantasy relevant, but I think
Speaker 3: it would be along the lines of cam Akers in Houston.
Speaker 3: Is Tray Sermon there. If you're thinking Trace Sermon is
Speaker 3: gonna go and be like a you know, low or
Speaker 3: high RB two. However you want to like label that,
Speaker 3: it's probably more of like a flex option if you
Speaker 3: lost Taylor. I don't think he's gonna go and thrive
Speaker 3: in Indianapolis if Taylor's gonna miss an extended period of time.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen any reports here on Monday of like
Speaker 3: what that injury is.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a mid to high ankles bring whatever the
Speaker 1: hell that means. So it sounds like two to four
Speaker 1: to me at the very least. I thought.
Speaker 3: I saw a report last night that said it was
Speaker 3: kind of low.
Speaker 1: Is okay, Darth Nug we're trying to bring up on stage? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you work in a sound check, Darth Nug. The warehouse,
Speaker 1: the warehouse, Please tell me you're not like to go
Speaker 1: in the warehouse and it's a weird creature situation like
Speaker 1: this is a.
Speaker 7: Work No, no, just yes, all right, it's.
Speaker 1: Not an abandoned warehouse or something like that. No, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, got today.
Speaker 9: Man, Well, trying not to stress.
Speaker 10: The season started out pretty well.
Speaker 4: To an extent.
Speaker 10: I'm three and one, but I've done so without CMC
Speaker 10: on the i R and now Rossie Rice is a season.
Speaker 2: I do have.
Speaker 10: The luxury of having two starting qbs and tight ends.
Speaker 10: I have Jaden Daniels and Josh Allen, and I have
Speaker 10: Trade Bride and Brock Bowers. So I'm trying to figure
Speaker 10: out which of those pairs I should be trying to
Speaker 10: trade away quarterback.
Speaker 1: My answer to that is, whoever brings you back more.
Speaker 1: You put them all out there, and if someone's gonna
Speaker 1: offer you something glorious for Josh Allen, you take it.
Speaker 1: You play Daniels vice versa, and same thing with the
Speaker 1: with the tight Ends. You put him out there, you say,
Speaker 1: these are the four guys available, come get them. Take
Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you can only play one quarterback every weekend. Daniels and
Speaker 1: Josh Allen look like they're not gonna be that far
Speaker 1: off in terms of relative position value rest of season,
Speaker 1: so that to me is an easy one. There a
Speaker 1: good luck in the warehouse. Remember clean your chainsaws after
Speaker 1: you're done. Everybody. That's just a good practice. Nick Lowry,
Speaker 1: what's up, Nick? What's your question here? I thought you
Speaker 1: might be hiding in Darth's wirehouse. I was a little worried.
Speaker 1: I thought you might be hiding in a corner like
Speaker 1: you escape from the warehouse that Darth was calling us.
Speaker 6: From, thankfully not thank goodness. So I'm wondering. Obviously tight
Speaker 6: ends the crap shoot. This year, a lot of Mark
Speaker 6: Andrews owners struggling, myself included.
Speaker 1: I started, it's over.
Speaker 6: Him, happily, but I'm wondering if me it's time to draw, time.
Speaker 11: To go for like Friar Mooth or something like that.
Speaker 6: Kate Aughten, I got no.
Speaker 1: Problem with that, Well, she got any problem with that
Speaker 1: kind of move. I mean, I got my issue with.
Speaker 3: That, not Kate Aughtuen, but maybe Friar Mouth. Yeah, Andrew
Speaker 3: I is fine, preach it all week, not starting Andrews.
Speaker 3: I have him, dude, I have him both of my ffpcs,
Speaker 3: and I'm still so. I'm four to zero in one
Speaker 3: of those too. I've been able to survive that, and
Speaker 3: it is at the expense of benching Mark Andrews. If
Speaker 3: there's something viable, get him out of there. Absolutely, friar
Speaker 3: Mouth is viable. Auton's not. Maybe he bounces back. It
Speaker 3: looks bad quarter ish of the season. Mark Andrews is
Speaker 3: not involved in that offense. What makes you think that's
Speaker 3: going to start to change to some massive degree? You
Speaker 3: saw likely they By the way we talked all this
Speaker 3: stuff about Henry earlier, one of the reasons Henry was
Speaker 3: able to get that is like there was more than
Speaker 3: one reception I think one player and it was the
Speaker 3: other running back, Justice Hill. Like they really short screen
Speaker 3: stuff to Hill, run the ball with Derrick Henry and
Speaker 3: then when they need to just get a little thing
Speaker 3: out to say Flowers and it wasn't in this game,
Speaker 3: So bye bye. Mark Andrews.
Speaker 2: Did y'all see how many routes uh he ran last night?
Speaker 2: Who are Canade? I think it was like four nine? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was nine routes. I mean, you're high with Dave
Speaker 2: Flowers is sixteen. But two weeks in a row they
Speaker 2: have focused this offense on Derrick Henry.
Speaker 4: Mark Anders just out, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't believe, bro, They've They've gotten w's in those
Speaker 1: games too, haven't they? And you know what's dangerous about that?
Speaker 1: Ravens team Bogman earmuffs. Is that not only they really
Speaker 1: good running football, they're really good at stopping the run too.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a killer combination when you get into
Speaker 1: the playoffs. If you can run the football and not
Speaker 1: let the other guy run the foot ball, that is
Speaker 1: trouble to deal with, manly ness, You're always trouble. What's up, manly?
Speaker 9: I'm doing really good. Thanks for asking, Joe. I'm a
Speaker 9: four and one fantasy.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. Wait a minute, did I even
Speaker 1: ask how you were well?
Speaker 9: I thought you did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, I'm glad you're doing well, and
Speaker 1: I'm glad I asked you. That was very polite of me.
Speaker 1: What's up? Man? Doing really good? How are you, Joe?
Speaker 1: Good to have you back? Yeah, no one ever asked
Speaker 1: me how. That's a good point man. You know, all
Speaker 1: these times we're always asking, come on, how's it going,
Speaker 1: what's happening with you? And no one says I'm good?
Speaker 1: And how are you? Joe? I'm good. I'm another year older.
Speaker 1: Thank you everyone for my birthday wishes. Bogmin and Welsh
Speaker 1: were like, you know, so nice on my birthday to me.
Speaker 1: They sent me flowers. It was really, it was lovely.
Speaker 1: It was a really nice time. What's your fantasy football deal?
Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Buddy?
Speaker 9: Yeah, so this is another tight end question. I've got McBride,
Speaker 9: but with him out, I was traded for Goddard and
Speaker 9: I'm curious. I'm okay next few weeks in terms of buyes,
Speaker 9: would you hang on to Goddard in case just as
Speaker 9: sort of like a backup plan or there's some backup
Speaker 9: rbes out on the wire, like like Bucky Irving, Braylen,
Speaker 9: Allen Tyler Asgier. Would you pick up a guy like
Speaker 9: that instead?
Speaker 1: Or off to the second Titand who's your other tight end?
Speaker 4: McBride?
Speaker 9: So McBride and Goddard.
Speaker 1: All right, Look, here's the thing. To me, this is
Speaker 1: the peak of Goddard's value because at some point after
Speaker 1: this bot you're gonna get Brown and Tamanta Smith most likely,
Speaker 1: and when those guys come back, he becomes the fourth
Speaker 1: guy in the pecking order behind Saquan two. So to me,
Speaker 1: this is the time to get out from Goddard. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it gets any better than that. Welch,
Speaker 1: do you see things differently than me?
Speaker 3: Nope? I give it to Goddard right now. He's on
Speaker 3: a bye this week, coming up and then coming back.
Speaker 3: I expect both wide receivers to be back. And I
Speaker 3: don't like the idea that you traded for Goddard and
Speaker 3: then you're cutting him. But you can pretend in your
Speaker 3: brain you are cutting him or trading him for Bucky Irving.
Speaker 3: And I do like that because Bucky Irving continues to
Speaker 3: get his role in the offense, and you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: maybe they're kind of close in together, but I would
Speaker 3: rather have Bucky Irving, especially long term in the season.
Speaker 3: We kind of saw his usage and how it was turning.
Speaker 3: So yeah, give me Buck Irving over Goddard right now.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the three we always pick
Speaker 1: every week, a three hundred yard pass for one hundred
Speaker 1: yard rusher and one hundred yard receiver. I'm at four
Speaker 1: points on the year, Welshes at four points, Bogman's at two,
Speaker 1: Tis tisk Bogman. This week, I'm going with Jordan Love.
Speaker 1: I know Bogman and I are kind of in lockstep there.
Speaker 1: For my three hundred yard passer, I don't think there's
Speaker 1: one hundred yard receiver in that. Maybe Jaden Reid would
Speaker 1: be the way to go, But I'm gonna go a
Speaker 1: different route with my receiver, Derrick Henry against the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1: Bengals defense is not good. Derrick Henry looks like a
Speaker 1: like a young man just striding about the field. He
Speaker 1: looks so good. DK Metcalf against the New York Giants.
Speaker 1: That's my one hundred yard receiver for league. Bogman, what's
Speaker 1: your three to one one for Week five?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you with Jordan Love.
Speaker 2: I just think the run game hasn't looked great and
Speaker 2: like you said, Josh Shacobs not fantastic recently. So Rams
Speaker 2: secondary terrible. So let's go Jordan Love at the Rams.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to Welsh's guy, Jordan Mason against
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. Cardinals defense still stinks, and Jordan Mason is
Speaker 2: getting twenty plus touches every single week here. I don't
Speaker 2: know how he doesn't get one hundred against the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: And for my wide receiver call, let's go with Drake
Speaker 2: London against Tampa Bay. I do think that Atlanta's gonna
Speaker 2: have to pass against Tampa Bay a little bit more,
Speaker 2: and they're not going to Kyle Pitts right, speaking of
Speaker 2: a bad tight end. So let's go back to Drake
Speaker 2: London getting one hundred yards against a bad buck secondary Welsh.
Speaker 1: What's the three to one one for a week five?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Three hundred yard passer, one hundred yard rusher, one hundred
Speaker 3: yard receiver. All right, let's do it because I got
Speaker 3: four points. Let's go back to c J. Stroud. I'm
Speaker 3: always back in CJ. Stroud going up against Buffalo. It's
Speaker 3: actually not a good matchup, but I think Buffalo is
Speaker 3: going to be out for some blood. Houston's going to
Speaker 3: be playing from behind and they're not doing it on
Speaker 3: the ground, so it's going to have to be done
Speaker 3: in the air. So they are going to have to
Speaker 3: pass more then the usual. And also those passing yards
Speaker 3: are down because they give up all the rushing yards.
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry one hundred and ninety nine is ridiculous. So
Speaker 3: give me someday. Stroud on the three hundred on the
Speaker 3: rushing side on Bijon was not used. This is a
Speaker 3: classic Bijon bounce back situation where he was not used
Speaker 3: to the fullest. This past week. He's going up against
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay. This is a pretty solid matchup. They're averaging
Speaker 3: over five yards per carry given up. Tampa Bay is
Speaker 3: right now per game to RB so Bijon going one
Speaker 3: hundred and then I'm gonna also pick on the Minnesota
Speaker 3: Vikings just as far as what their secondary has been
Speaker 3: giving up. They're giving him quite a bit. On the
Speaker 3: passing side. Garrett Wilson has been kind of shut down.
Speaker 3: He's gonna have a I think a pretty favorable matchup
Speaker 3: once we see the ratings on the cornerback wide receiver
Speaker 3: matchups for this week, but this is a good spot
Speaker 3: for him. They continue to try to keep getting the ball.
Speaker 3: A lot of offensive griping this week in like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, we gotta step up in the offense. We
Speaker 3: can't let we can't defense get hold into ten points
Speaker 3: and us not score. So I think you're gonna see
Speaker 3: the Jets slinging the ball a bit more Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 3: This is a pretty solid matchup Stroud Bijon Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 3: That's my three to one.
Speaker 1: One know, the big bounce back from Garrett Wilson. More
Speaker 1: on the Jets to come here touchdown calls. I was
Speaker 1: sick for one, so I missed one, but I only
Speaker 1: got one on the board. Bogs and Welsh most have three,
Speaker 1: so I got to catch up justin fields against Dallas. Look,
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons and Lawrence still wait for injury updates on them,
Speaker 1: so they're not gonna one hundred percent even if they're in.
Speaker 1: So this is not a matchup that scares me necessarily
Speaker 1: for field. So give me him to get in the
Speaker 1: end zone again. Well, she was getting the en zone
Speaker 1: for you this week.
Speaker 3: All right, we are going to Bijeon. I told you
Speaker 3: on that side. I think they've given up three of
Speaker 3: four games, they've given up touchdowns to running backs the
Speaker 3: Buccaneers have. I believe this last one it was like
Speaker 3: twelve carries again, so.
Speaker 1: Yes, one had some big runs and Bjeon had a
Speaker 1: Bjon had an amazing catch and run that got called back,
Speaker 1: but it was for a touchdown and that's unfortunate. There
Speaker 1: was a holding call in there that was suspect. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Jon is definitely due. I agree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Sussy, We're gonna go all Upjeon here for
Speaker 3: the touchdown for me to keep holding this lead. I
Speaker 3: got a tied lead in the three to one one
Speaker 3: and a tied lead with bogs on the touchdown calls.
Speaker 1: That's right the top of the mountain.
Speaker 4: It's a lead, So not a lead anyway, Yeah, not quite.
Speaker 3: Jason Kidd and Garrett Grant Hill both won the Rookie
Speaker 3: of the Year even though it was co Rookie of
Speaker 3: the Year, but they were still Rookie of the Year,
Speaker 3: so I'm still winning.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with ken Walker if he survives Monday
Speaker 2: Night Football. We'll see with this ab injury, Deepak says,
Speaker 2: most likely he's going to be fine, but fewer touches
Speaker 2: in this game, which means hopefully back next week against
Speaker 2: the Giants. And you know, as the Giants defense is
Speaker 2: not bad, but their offense is so miserable that they
Speaker 2: let the other team possess the ball a bunch. So
Speaker 2: I think the Seahawks can run the ball on the Giants,
Speaker 2: especially late. So give me ken Walker to score late.
Speaker 1: All right, So ken Walker to score late. Let's do
Speaker 1: a little what's trending The hashtag I don't want to overreact,
Speaker 1: but was trending today on Twitter. And I want to
Speaker 1: throw this out there to you guys, but NFL stuff
Speaker 1: right now, let's let's overreact let's have some fun with
Speaker 1: something that we saw. Yes, bugs, go ahead, gut instinct.
Speaker 1: I don't want to overreact, but.
Speaker 2: I'm sick of seeing the damn refs. I think the
Speaker 2: refs are too involved this year. I feel like I've
Speaker 2: seen them more this year than any other year, and
Speaker 2: I'm tired of it. You just talked about the touchdown
Speaker 2: that Beijeon had called back. Amari Cooper at a almost
Speaker 2: an eighty yard touchdown called back. Lots of refs in
Speaker 2: the Chiefs games, lots of refs in college football.
Speaker 4: I am sick of seeing the.
Speaker 2: Zebras this year. I would wish that they were a
Speaker 2: little more extinct. So I I just am completely tired
Speaker 2: of seeing the refs. So well, that's my frustrating thing.
Speaker 1: Well, you're a very levelheaded guy. As long as I've
Speaker 1: known you. You you never get emotional about things. You're
Speaker 1: always very calm.
Speaker 4: You know another Welsh.
Speaker 1: Oh oh that's right, it's a picture.
Speaker 3: Remember that. I get confused for anytime.
Speaker 1: I god, yeah, yeah, not exactly a stable level headed
Speaker 1: is but Welsh. I don't want to overreact, but.
Speaker 3: Oh I got lots of I might I'm the worst
Speaker 3: gambler of all time, I shouldn't be allowed to make
Speaker 3: picks a horrible week. And the Trevor Lawrence Maybe that's
Speaker 3: one I want to say. Trevor Lawrence is just a
Speaker 3: Scooby Doo bo Nicks, just in a disguise, and we're
Speaker 3: just gonna like pull that off. You're like it was
Speaker 3: bow Nicks the whole time, Like he's just I know
Speaker 3: he did like two touchdowns this past week. But the
Speaker 3: football one that immediately came to mind is actually the
Speaker 3: entire Jaguars. The Jaguars, one of the worst teams in
Speaker 3: the NFL, looks like et and might be done. Biggs
Speaker 3: Be's taking over. I laughed at that last year. Maybe
Speaker 3: that's it. I cannot believe. I don't want to overact,
Speaker 3: but Travis Eaten might be done, might.
Speaker 4: Be sounds like you you just don't like the Jaguars.
Speaker 3: At all, Right, stinky No, you can't get the ball
Speaker 3: to Brian Thomas enough. They just did it this past week.
Speaker 3: Christian kirk Ingram et biggs Be's rushing over him. They're
Speaker 3: oh to four. They can't win a game. I mean,
Speaker 3: they've had three games on the road, which is tough,
Speaker 3: but they're oh and three they're a bad team.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean though they're on four, so but who's counting.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about for a second. You want to overreact,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw something over it. I don't want to overreact.
Speaker 1: But maybe Trevor Lawrence isn't as good as we thought
Speaker 1: he was. I've got a fun stat for you. You
Speaker 1: guys like stats, So you're gonna read these quarterback stats
Speaker 1: next to each other. Okay, you tell me if these
Speaker 1: are obviously not impressive. Okay. Sixty four games for one quarterback,
Speaker 1: fifty three for the other, both quarterbacks, sixty three point two,
Speaker 1: sixty four point two completion percentage for their careers, pass
Speaker 1: rating eight. It's Daniel Jones and it's Trevor Lawrence. Passer
Speaker 1: rating eighty four point five for Lawrence, eighty four point
Speaker 1: nine for Daniel Jones. Sixty touchdowns for Lawrence, sixty six
Speaker 1: for Daniel Jones. Now granted he's played, you know, almost
Speaker 1: nine more games. Fine, but the interceptions forty for Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: forty three for Daniel Jones. If we're gonna be rate
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is the worst thing ever, maybe it's time
Speaker 1: to start holding Trevor Lawrence to a higher standard. I
Speaker 1: at traded Trevor Lawrence in my Dynasty league for Justin
Speaker 1: Field and George Pickens this weekend because I am sick
Speaker 1: and tired of watching Trevor Lawrence toil away with the Jaguars. Boggs,
Speaker 1: you're the Dynasty guy that I overreact.
Speaker 2: Nah, I still think there is more to Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2: But I do think that, you know, having to start
Speaker 2: your career under Urban Meyer was just such a joke.
Speaker 2: And I also don't think Doug Peterson is a very
Speaker 2: good coach. I think Doug Peterson had a great run
Speaker 2: when they beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl, and
Speaker 2: Nick Foles had an otherworldly run when they did that.
Speaker 2: He's still making money based on that run. He's not
Speaker 2: a good coach, So I mean, why are they not
Speaker 2: letting this dude run? I think if you get the
Speaker 2: right coach for Trevor Lawrence, he can still be good.
Speaker 2: I don't think you there's a right coach for Daniel Jones,
Speaker 2: So I'd still think Trevor Lawrence is better and can
Speaker 2: have some value in the future. But win and who's
Speaker 2: going to be the guy because they're not there now?
Speaker 2: And We have no idea who it is in what
Speaker 2: decisions Con is going to make on the future of
Speaker 2: this team. I think Peterson, they keep losing. Peterson's getting
Speaker 2: fired by week eight, Oh, Peters getting fired.
Speaker 1: And if I'm Sean Conn, like shod Con, the Jaguars
Speaker 1: is a perfect place for Bill Balichick because a it's
Speaker 1: in Florida. Everyone goes to, you know, the end of
Speaker 1: their days in Florida. Sean Conn will let him do
Speaker 1: whatever he wants there. In my opinion, he'll let him
Speaker 1: hire whoever he wants to control the organization. He's not
Speaker 1: getting that in Dallas, He's not getting that in a
Speaker 1: lot of other places. Sead will give him the keys
Speaker 1: to the castle and say, here you go, Bill, and
Speaker 1: don't be shocked if that happens. Bova Night, let's hit
Speaker 1: you up here for a question. Here, what do you got, Bova?
Speaker 1: Thanks for being patient?
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, thanks guys for having me. So for keeper leagues, right,
Speaker 11: that's my favorite league is my keeper league. And it's
Speaker 11: going to get into buy season. And so some of
Speaker 11: the guys that you took dreaming of them being good
Speaker 11: next year, now all of a sudden you're thinking about
Speaker 11: cutting them. I have Benson, Bucky Irving, and Jalen Right,
Speaker 11: Benson is the only one who's a handcuff of those
Speaker 11: three if you're thinking about next year and like the
Speaker 11: one that you're excited about, because I know Irving's doing
Speaker 11: the most right now, but I don't know physically, maybe
Speaker 11: the least the least upsides are just curious your thoughts
Speaker 11: from like a keeper question.
Speaker 1: Actually, Bods, you're probably the best of us to answer
Speaker 1: this question because you're so deep in the college game
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Who do you think is the
Speaker 1: most keeper appeal of those three guys because they all
Speaker 1: have intrigue on their own.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's Benson because James Connor. That's why I
Speaker 2: think to Okay, Yeah, and I think exactly what Bob
Speaker 2: Knight said is, you know, Bucky might be heard on
Speaker 2: that list in terms of talent, but I think he's
Speaker 2: second because Jalen Wright is going to be behind a
Speaker 2: Chan as long as he's in Miami. A Chan is
Speaker 2: other worldly talent. So I think for me, it's Benson
Speaker 2: Bucky And then right.
Speaker 3: Isn't Connor a free agent after this year?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I just leaves.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, Sorry, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear say yeah. I mean Ben's has the
Speaker 1: clearest path and look Trey Bent and just I mean
Speaker 1: it just makes a lot of sense for him to just.
Speaker 4: Slide shot why it might be a free agent as well.
Speaker 4: I'll dumble you.
Speaker 1: But you know what that makes more complicate aus Bucky Irving.
Speaker 1: That is more useful this year as well, egg boy,
Speaker 1: you're up with everybody? What do you got?
Speaker 12: Well, well, well, I've been quite scrambled about Andrews because
Speaker 12: have answered those shift gears a little bit too, A
Speaker 12: little more optimistic question, Brooke, what are we feeling about
Speaker 12: because Hubbard's been killing it. I have brought somebody excited
Speaker 12: to get a mob off, but wondering do I sell
Speaker 12: high boy.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It looks like you your microscra
Speaker 1: connection there is poached egg Boy, So we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to let you go there. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: too hard boiled on you. But Jonathan Brooks Welsh Hubbard
Speaker 1: has been good. The Carolina Panthers have been alive the
Speaker 1: last two weeks, and they were certainly dead for the
Speaker 1: first two. So to me, Jonathan Brooks is one of
Speaker 1: these things where I don't know if you see anything
Speaker 1: really fantasy worthy until we start to get into double
Speaker 1: digit weeks where he gets ramp up more time unless
Speaker 1: something terrible happens to Hobard ahead of him. To me,
Speaker 1: I think this is more of like a red shirt ear,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. That's kind of how I look
Speaker 1: at it With Brooks. What do you think?
Speaker 3: I feel like you turned there, you were like, yeah,
Speaker 3: things will get better when he gets here, and then
Speaker 3: you turn they will, But I'm like garbage year, Like
Speaker 3: it's not a.
Speaker 1: Garbage year, but it's a year where you're gonna keep
Speaker 1: waiting and waiting and waiting, and the next thing you know,
Speaker 1: you're like, damn, I wish I had Jonathan Brooks in
Speaker 1: the spot where I could starve him in my line
Speaker 1: but feel good about it. And I don't think you're
Speaker 1: gonna have that. I don't think it's gonna be till
Speaker 1: week ten or something to that effect where he's going
Speaker 1: to have enough where you're curious to have him be
Speaker 1: starting now. Maybe I'm wrong, but I mean every time
Speaker 1: I see these guys with these acl tears and they're
Speaker 1: working their way back, especially if they have somebody viable
Speaker 1: in front of them. Like, I think by the time
Speaker 1: you get to double digit weeks is when Carolina goes. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see what Brooks is so we can start evaluating
Speaker 1: for next year. But by the time that happens, I
Speaker 1: mean we're only in week five. We've still got five
Speaker 1: plus weeks left to go. I think that's too long
Speaker 1: to wait.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess I just don't view that
Speaker 3: as a red shirt year. That's about the only thing
Speaker 3: I'm picking up.
Speaker 1: In weeks of viables, you know, seventeen. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's pretty crappy.
Speaker 3: I don't disagree, but I'm just saying, like weeks ten
Speaker 3: on are pretty important in fantasy, like we play them.
Speaker 3: So if you think he can get back to that
Speaker 3: viability in there, that's okay. I think he will. I
Speaker 3: think he's in an explosive back that Cuba's been fine.
Speaker 3: Miles Sanders is just the walking dead. They need playmakers
Speaker 3: back there. And if he's gonna be, let's say back
Speaker 3: in two weeks or I think he's eligible to come back,
Speaker 3: isn't eligible to come back this week? Then they start
Speaker 3: him off.
Speaker 4: He is, but I don't think he's going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's say it's like week six or so,
Speaker 3: I think it's going to take a couple of weeks
Speaker 3: to get said. I think week eight you could start
Speaker 3: seeing him going. But here's the thing I would say,
Speaker 3: I think you should probably view him like Bucky Irving,
Speaker 3: Like if you view him in that lens where it's
Speaker 3: he can get ten to twelve touches and maybe they
Speaker 3: use that up until you know, as the season goes on,
Speaker 3: like that can be flex viable. I think he's more
Speaker 3: explosive than Cuba. So I'm I'm into two Brooks. I guess,
Speaker 3: like I said, the red Shirt to me is like, oh,
Speaker 3: he has no fantasy value whatsoever. I just think he
Speaker 3: can have fantasy value for the second half of the year.
Speaker 3: But Joe's take on it is the safer play. So like,
Speaker 3: if I don't know if you want to go be
Speaker 3: buying Brooks right now, but if you have had him,
Speaker 3: you should hold on because we don't know what's gonna
Speaker 3: Plenty of guys of the first four weeks they're out
Speaker 3: and then they come out like gangbusters.
Speaker 1: So don't see I'm the opposite. If I've got him,
Speaker 1: I think this is the peak time to sell. But
Speaker 1: what do you because it's all honestly, it's all sunshine
Speaker 1: and roses right now. I think you could definitely trade
Speaker 1: him for a viable wide receiver two three kind of
Speaker 1: guy like I think there's enough people who have had
Speaker 1: RB issues this year, underperformance, injuries, all of the What
Speaker 1: do you.
Speaker 4: Think you can get the like Jordan Addison?
Speaker 1: I was just Kidonday. I think you can get an Addison.
Speaker 1: I think you can get somebody like that that has
Speaker 1: value that I would want to jump in. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, man, the Jalen Wattle value is rock bottom
Speaker 1: right now if you want to buy today before this
Speaker 1: game and see if Huntley can resurrect him at all.
Speaker 1: But I just think there's some guys out there. JSN
Speaker 1: had one great game. We'll see what he does tonight.
Speaker 1: But there's some guys out there where I feel like
Speaker 1: people have these Some teams are just heavy at wide
Speaker 1: receiver and they just you know, they're expendable. But a
Speaker 1: guy like Jonathan Brooks, there's so much intriguing upside because
Speaker 1: of the talent and the age and all that stuff
Speaker 1: that people are willing to do that not recognizing that
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be another six weeks before you feel
Speaker 1: good about maybe starting.
Speaker 2: I'm a Texas fan and I love Brooks and I
Speaker 2: think he's the best running back in this draft. And
Speaker 2: I don't have one share of him. And it's because
Speaker 2: I had I had Javonte last year, and you know, Javante,
Speaker 2: they rushed back too soon, then brought him back.
Speaker 4: He didn't look the same the whole year.
Speaker 2: So you know, maybe you know h Brooks as a
Speaker 2: younger guy, maybe he recovers a little bit quicker. He
Speaker 2: got more time off than Javonte did initially as well.
Speaker 2: Maybe that all is contributing towards him having a big,
Speaker 2: you know, back end. Like Welsh said, right weeks ten on.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't gonna invest in a guy that I
Speaker 2: had to wait ten weeks to get.
Speaker 3: That's his draft cost was too much like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't have any shares either, do you have given.
Speaker 1: I have Dynasty shares that I got cheap in early Dynasty.
Speaker 2: I don't even have a Dynasty share because I'd taken
Speaker 2: brock Bowers at that spot everywhere.
Speaker 1: No, well, I got him. I had a couple of
Speaker 1: picks in a row there at the end of the
Speaker 1: first round, so I got Brooks and a couple other
Speaker 1: pieces there, so look man, like I said Brooks next year,
Speaker 1: I'm in one last thing before we go today. Sam Donald,
Speaker 1: who has been great, we talked about him earlier, gets
Speaker 1: to play the Jets this week. I would like to
Speaker 1: file a formal motion with the NFL to not play
Speaker 1: this game in London. I want Sam Donald to play
Speaker 1: this game in New York in front of Jets fans
Speaker 1: so bad, guys so bad. I want to see the
Speaker 1: look on their faces. I want to be in that
Speaker 1: building and absorb the tears of Jet fans when Sam
Speaker 1: Donald and the Vikings beat Aaron Rodgers in the Jets.
Speaker 1: So much that I want to put this petition out there. Bogman, Well,
Speaker 1: should you sign my opinions?
Speaker 3: Would you go to the game? If you would go
Speaker 3: to the game, I'll sign it.
Speaker 1: I will absolutely go to that. I would absolutely go
Speaker 1: to the I mean there's a part of me that
Speaker 1: wants to, you know, I want to see a fantasy
Speaker 1: bros will pay for me to go to London to
Speaker 1: watch it, you know, and just to say next to
Speaker 1: a Jet fans, just.
Speaker 3: To be a hate All Joe wants to do is
Speaker 3: just go and hate on Aaron.
Speaker 1: No, I just want to love Sam Donald that I
Speaker 1: love you.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you're strng. You're trying to sell us
Speaker 3: that your love for Sam Donald is stronger than your
Speaker 3: hate for uh for Aaron Rodgers Jets. I don't think though.
Speaker 3: So they're those, they're sith you're a scooter.
Speaker 1: I'll say this. I saw something I never thought I'd
Speaker 1: never seen an NFL game ever, which was bo Nix's
Speaker 1: stat line at the half, seven for fifteen from minus
Speaker 1: seven yards. I don't think that is humanly possible to do.
Speaker 1: I don't know how a quarterback could he be.
Speaker 3: What I meant to ask you earlier, what do you
Speaker 3: guys want more? The Mount Rushmore of worst quarterbacks in
Speaker 3: the NFL R right now? Because it's got to be
Speaker 3: Levis Nick's probably what Daniel Jones? And then would you
Speaker 3: put Lawrence on there? Like that's the mount Rushmore. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna present to you change it. Where you were starting
Speaker 3: Dog Mounch right now.
Speaker 4: I'm not put I'm not putting him on there.
Speaker 2: When Deshaun Watson still plays.
Speaker 1: Young is not on your list.
Speaker 3: Starters, I said starters, so.
Speaker 1: I guess technically he's not starting.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: You could take I guess you could take off Lawrence
Speaker 3: and put Brissette in there.
Speaker 1: I guess, but I need Kobe. Brissett's playing with no
Speaker 1: offensive line whatsoever, and I've seen him play mid level.
Speaker 3: Then who would you take off for Deshaun Watson?
Speaker 4: Bugs? Who was the last case?
Speaker 5: Daniel?
Speaker 3: Do you wanted to put Daniel Jones in?
Speaker 2: And you want Jones didn't start anymore though, so he
Speaker 2: has to go because Drew Lox's starter now, so uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess, okay, I would just take Danny Dimes off
Speaker 2: because he's not a starter and put the Sean up.
Speaker 3: There is boner go everybody in the NFL.
Speaker 2: I still don't like Levis. I thought lews is going
Speaker 2: to be so much better, but Callaghan has not unlocked
Speaker 2: anything on him.
Speaker 4: He looks wow.
Speaker 1: In all fairness, Levis keeps literally handing the football to
Speaker 1: the other team in the dumbest possible ways you could
Speaker 1: ever imatch stuff that Like. I had two instances in
Speaker 1: the rain this week where I had young quarterbacks twelve
Speaker 1: years old, the ball, the play wasn't there and they
Speaker 1: threw the ball out of bounce and I was like,
Speaker 1: good for you. You are a step ahead of Will Levis
Speaker 1: two different quarterbacks, one of which was my daughter, the
Speaker 1: other another player, and the sea was say good for
Speaker 1: you. You're better than will Love.
Speaker 3: Your daughter's a pretty good quarterback. I would trust your
Speaker 3: daughter behind the Titans offensive line than I do Will
Speaker 3: Levis guarantee.
Speaker 1: Probably, So that's out of bounds. Everybody join us on
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Speaker 1: check out Welsh and Erickson two Thursday's two pm Eastern.
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Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you as always. Have a great
Speaker 1: week five. That'll do it for us, but the story
Speaker 1: of the game goes on for Bogman and Welsh. I'm
Speaker 1: Joey P. We'll see you next time. Kids.
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