WEBVTT - #681 Packers Unscripted: Business in Buffalo 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:10.520 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:14.040 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:16.920 by my trusted colleague Weston Hodkowits were coming to you 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:20.919 here from our studios at lambeau Field to preview Sunday 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:25.040 Night football West. It will be Packers Bills from Buffalo 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.800 in prime time at high Mark Stadium. Though I know 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:30.840 you still like to call it the Ralph, which you 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:36.600 did on our Three Things yesterday. So what used to 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.239 be known as Ralph Wilson Stadium is where the Packers 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.400 will face the Bills on Sunday Night. It's a Buffalo 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:44.800 Bills team that is five and one coming off a 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:49.360 bye week, looking every bit the Super Bowl contender they 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.440 were touted as before the season began. And when you 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:56.000 look at this team West, it all starts at quarterback 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.840 with Josh Allen, who is squarely in the conversation for 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.960 the m v P. As we near the midway point. 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.039 He is, and we're going to discuss all the Bills 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:06.680 and how good they are in here a second. But 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:08.240 I don't know if you saw the renderings of that 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:12.720 stadium that they have that they perspectively put together. Actually, 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.720 they just came out. I think like either yesterday we 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:19.399 just saw it. It's it's pretty nice. These NFL stadiums, 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:20.960 bro I mean, we haven't been able to get to 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:27.040 Sofa yet or Allegiance, but they're they're pretty It's pretty 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.280 wild the way these things are developing. And it's and 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.080 this is why you do it, right. I mean, the 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:34.360 Buffalo Bills have never been hotter, at least during my 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:36.680 adult life, maybe going back to when I was in 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:40.360 elementary school. I mean, this team and what they have, 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:45.039 they are so complete, and they play they feed off 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:46.720 each other so well. I mean, that's what all the 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.400 best championship teams do, right. It wasn't just that Aaron 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.800 Rodgers was at the peak of his powers in two 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.360 thousand eleven and twelve and ten. It was they had 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.640 all this emerging talent around him. It's that they had 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:01.120 a defense that was as solid as what Buffalo has offensively. 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:05.040 I always loved telling the story two thousand eighteen, when 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.680 we were still doing our pregame show out at lambeau 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.400 Field before the games, Josh Allen whacked me in the 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.760 calf with a ball. Uh. That's that's where he was 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.519 at his rookie season and in warmups he like threw 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:18.320 a ball and it missed the receiver and hit me 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.760 literally and almost bruised my calf. I mean that's how 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.799 hard it was thrown. And now you look at him 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:25.799 and this is one of the I mean, this guy 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:27.720 is going to be a factor in the National Football 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.799 League for the next fifteen years. I mean, he is 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.400 the crown jewel of that draft class. There's a lot 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.200 of great quarterbacks that year, but when you look at 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:38.880 where he has steered the Buffalo Bills, it's all on 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:42.840 his shoulders. Yes, Stefon Diggs is fantastic. Um, you know, 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.880 Gabe Davis is coming on. Defensively, Von Miller's brought a 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.280 lot to that defense. But Josh Miller or Josh excuse me, 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:53.160 Josh Allen is the show and and you're seeing why. Yeah. Well, statistically, 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:58.200 Josh Allen seventeen touchdowns, four interceptions, a one oh nine 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.680 point one passer rating, which is can in the league, 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:04.160 just barely below Patrick Mahomes, though Josh Allen one the 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.680 head to head with Patrick Mahomes very recently. Here. The 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.919 other interesting interesting thing, of course about Alan statistically is 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.200 he's actually Buffalo's leading rushier. He has two fifty seven 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:18.359 rushing yards, which is one more than Devin Singletary and 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:23.800 actually ten fewer attempts. And when Josh Allen has a 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:28.600 five point five yard average per rushing attempt, and you 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:33.520 know that there are several minus one kneel downs, you know, 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:37.600 into that calculation whether it's a designed run or a 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:41.640 scramble when Josh, when Josh Allen takes off and runs, 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.720 there's a very good chance it's a chunk play, uh, 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:48.040 you know, an explosive type of play for this Buffalo offense. 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.040 And that's what makes them makes them so tough to 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.560 stop because Josh Allen doesn't have to get rid of 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.680 the ball to make a big play. Yeah. And the 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.440 weird thing about this whole situation the Packers have been 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.120 and regardless of the skid they've been on, is the 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:05.720 quarterbacks they're playing. At some point in time, these qbs. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:07.760 I guess remember when for so many years you were 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:09.520 telling Aaron Rodgers, you gotta make sure you slide, you 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:11.560 gotta make sure you get down. And now Green Bay 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:15.200 is going through this gauntlet of Daniel Jones, Taylor Heineke, 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.920 and now Josh Allen. These guys have never even heard 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.440 of the you know idea of sliding. I mean they 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.000 are going to Josh Allen is gonna throw his shoulder 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.800 into you. Uh. Even Kenny Clark talked about it as 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.559 locker on Wednesday. He's like Big Ben, but he's more 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.039 fleet afoot like. He He has the size, but he 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.599 also has a lot of athleticism too. He's going to 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.680 create big plays. He's going to do with his feet, 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.160 He's gonna do with his arm. Stefon Diggs has been 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.320 I mean when you talk about Mike with trades happen 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.760 in the National Football League and all there's winners and losers. 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:49.040 The Bills, Scott Stefon Diggs, the Vikings got Justin Jefferson, 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:52.240 and those two guys have just completely ascended in their 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:55.480 own respects in these avenues. Gabe Davis is actually on 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:59.159 my fantasy team right now. Seven and a half yards 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.360 per catchy at the NY eight yard touchdown last week. 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.640 There are a lot of threats the Packers will have 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.839 to neutralize to be successful at the Ralph. Well, you 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.160 look at and I want to talk about these receivers 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.440 a little bit too, because you look at Stefon Diggs 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.320 six games now Buffalo has played, as we mentioned, coming 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.400 off of a bye week. In six games, Stefon Diggs 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.200 has forty nine catches, six hundred and fifty six yards 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:25.200 and six touchdowns. I mean the math there says he's 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.119 on pace for you know, a hundred and twenty five 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:32.920 plus receptions like eighteen hundred plus yards and uh, you know, 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.200 seventeen t d s. I mean he is, he is 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.800 on pace here and they're early going for an absolutely 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.880 monster year. And then as you said, you have to 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.320 deal with Gabe Davis as well, who only has fourteen 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.160 catches on the year, but four of those have gone 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.080 for touchdowns as you mentioned in ninety eight yard touchdown, 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:55.040 which has boosted his average on those fourteen receptions to 0:05:55.120 --> 0:06:00.200 twenty seven and a half yards per catch. This this 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.839 isn't This is an offense that can that can gash you. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.960 They can make the big play at any time. And no, 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.680 they don't have much of a running game. As I mentioned, 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:15.080 Josh Allen is the team's leading rusher. But they are 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:20.279 so dangerous because of Alan's dual threat ability and because 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.240 of these receivers, and you throw in a tight end 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.559 like Dawson Knox, who can make a lot of things happen. 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.680 This is a this is a tough unit to handle. 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:32.560 And you know, you know, going into Buffalo in prime 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.919 time under the lights, with Aaron Rodgers coming to town 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:41.400 for the first time in eight years, the Buffalo crowd 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.240 is going to be I mean, it's it's the atmosphere 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.919 in that place is going to be, uh, something else 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.039 for for just a regular season, fol And we don't 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.320 need to revisit two thousand fourteen and that that matchup there. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.520 But the one thing, it's the only time I've ever 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:01.240 been at Landmark Stadium. Uh, I'm just gonna let that 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:02.880 go throughout the entire show. No, it's the first time 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.800 I've been to Buffalo since that game. And that day 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.279 it was Kyle Orton, who has been signed that year 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.480 to play quarterback. Their season was pretty much, for the 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.760 lack of a better term, over, I mean, they were 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:17.160 right or hovering around if I remember right, and the 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:21.280 feeling in that stadium was not one of jubilation. It 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.560 was pretty melancholy up until the end when they ended 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.400 up actually winning the game. This is gonna be a 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.240 lot different. Sammy Watkins, the former Buffalo Bill was talking 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.280 about this. He's like, when when the Bills are good, 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.680 when they're winning football games, it's like a college town atmosphere. 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:37.440 I mean, that's that's what that's like. I mean, you 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:38.760 and I are going to see it when we're pulling 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.160 up on the buses. Maybe there'll be someone going through 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.320 a table. We're not sure, but yeah, our our buses 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.480 sort of go because I've I've been there for two 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.160 games two thousand and six and two thousand and fourteen, 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.360 and the buses that take us from the hotel of 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.520 the stadium we go through like these neighborhoods. It's it's 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:59.160 it's the most similar to Green Bay and of any 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:02.160 place in the NFL where you're going through these neighborhoods 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.960 and you're seeing people with with their you know, their 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.720 tailgate parties in their driveway, in their yards, you know, 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.360 cars being parked, you know, collecting twenty bucks here and 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:12.960 there or whatever. That's that's what it's like. And our 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.280 our our buses go right through that. So yeah, I'll 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.160 be watching to see if what what sort of Shenanikins 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.400 are happening, especially with it being a night game where 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.600 folks are going to have all day to get ready 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.960 for this one. But what I really like to about 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.440 the Bills offensively is so you look at a guy 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.200 like Devin Singletary, and Singletary is not a guy that 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.360 everyone's like, oh well, this is a big, you know, 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.640 huge threat, but for what the Bills want to do, 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:40.160 he compliments it perfectly because he can run. But he's 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.079 also their second leading pass catcher in terms of the 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.240 number of receptions. Um they drafted Zack Moss he's involved 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.600 in that too, But I mean Singletary is the guy 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.200 that kind of compliments the whole thing, and there's just Mike. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.120 You just don't see a lot of weaknesses across the board. Now, 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:54.679 the Packers are gonna do a lot of things right, 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.240 but you know, Jamison Crowders on this roster obviously, I 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.600 think Jake Kumro is going through some injury stuff right now, 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:04.319 but that they are veteran, they are versatile, and certainly 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.280 when you have those type of playmakers at the quarterback 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.800 position and guys that can be game records down the field, 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.160 like Digs and like Gabe Davis, that there's a lot 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:14.640 that Green Bass to account for for sure. And on 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.480 the defensive side of the ball. This is this is 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.760 the unit that has ranked number one in the league 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:23.160 in both yards allowed and points allowed. A lot of 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:28.200 statistics certainly jump off the page. Von Miller with six sacks, UM, 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.280 the young guy Russo has four, Those two guys with 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:35.320 with ten combined. Jordan Poyer in the back end has 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:39.960 four of this this uh, this defense is ten interceptions 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:43.160 on the season. UM. A huge challenge for a Green 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.280 Bay offense that is continuing to try to find itself 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:49.000 to clean up the mental mistakes as well as the 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:53.000 physical mistakes, settling in with a new offensive line. Obviously, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.880 the Packers are banged up at receiver. We don't know 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.800 who all is going to be available at wide receiver 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.720 for for Sunday night just yet. UM. This is UH, 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:06.240 this is this is a tremendous challenge because because this Buffalo, 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:10.199 this Buffalo defense, they they got von Miller for a reason, right, 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.439 They knew, they knew they were close, but they felt. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.640 You know, when you when you get knocked out of 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.280 the playoffs by allowing in essence, by allowing a field 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.160 goal to extend a game in twelve seconds or thirteen 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.560 seconds or whatever it was, you're like, all right, we 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.720 need to get a finisher on defense. Von Miller is 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.040 that guy that that when that defense needs a big 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:35.000 time pressure or a sack or uh you know, strip sack, fumble, 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.840 whatever it is, they're counting on Miller to deliver it. 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.000 In so far this season he has. Yeah, and Miller 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.959 really has been I don't want to start throwing out 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.439 like Reggie White type comparisons, but when you look at 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:49.319 where he has gone in the impact he's had, he's 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:52.160 really been like that that finishing piece from a lot 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.200 of these really good defenses around the National Football Certainly, 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.559 certainly was for the Rams, helping them win the Super 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.880 Bowl last year, and certainly, I mean, we don't need 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:02.160 to talk about fifteen and what he did on those 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:06.880 Denver Broncos teams. But the craziest part of this deal 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.600 for the Bills is they're doing all this without Micah Hyde. 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.200 Mica gets that neck injury earlier in the season, he's 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.240 done for the year. Everybody for so long, they've been 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.680 talking about how Poorer and Hide are probably one of 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.320 the best, if not the best safety combination the National 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.280 Football League right now, both how they play off of 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:25.400 each other and really their ball hawking skills. I feel like, 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.120 especially with dealing with some of his own injuries. Uh, 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.559 this has only brought out the best and Jordan poy 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.480 are four interceptions on this season. Uh. We hear so 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:38.560 often from Packers players, from coaches marrying the pass rush 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:43.040 to the past coverage. That's what a good defense does, Miamire, 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:46.040 I should say Buffalo does all of it. Third in 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.480 the league, I think in takeaways, lead the league with 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.920 ten interceptions. I let Miami slip out of my mouth 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.320 there because I was gonna say the only team that's 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.320 had success, the only team that's beaten them, and again 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.160 it was a barn Burner type game, was the Dolphins. 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.000 They didn't do it by running the ball well against them, 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.800 They barely ran the ball at all. They did it 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:09.160 by not having turnovers. The few explosive plays they had, 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.000 they scored on all of them, and they made the 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.360 most of their red zone opportunities. The same thing has 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.880 to happen for the Packers to be successful against this defense, 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:17.920 right and what and what Miami did in that game, 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.440 because statistically, that game, the one game Buffalo lost this year, 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:26.520 was lopsided in a number of statistics. In favor of 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.400 the Buffalo Bills. The number of plays, the yards, everything, 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.680 and it wasn't a big turnover fest. But the other 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.960 thing that Miami, the other thing that Miami did is 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.600 Miami's defense continued to rise up in the red zone, 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.000 backed up against the goal line, whatever the case might be. 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:45.079 Miami's defense made key plays at key times. And so 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.679 all of these, all these plays and yards and everything 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:51.120 that Buffalo piled up, the Bills weren't able to, uh 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.800 to convert those into enough points to pull out a 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.720 game that they that they otherwise dominated up and down 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:00.800 the field. So, um that that was my next question 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.160 to you with regard to what what are the keys? 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.880 What are the keys to victory here? I think another 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:11.800 another category that sticks out is that Buffalo offensively is 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.760 number one in the league on in third down conversions 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:19.600 um third out conversion percentage. Green Bay defensively is number 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.680 three in the league. But as we've seen, you know, 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.480 we had talked about a couple of the third and 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.599 longs that were converted in London by the Giants that 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.920 sort of turned the tide in that game. And then 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:33.480 the second half last week against Washington where whether it 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:35.800 was third and short or third and long. The Packers 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.400 just couldn't get off the field. Washington converting a lot 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.880 of third downs in that second half. So we've seen 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:46.360 Green Bay have some struggling moments in that regard, and 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.640 uh um, you know, you get it's going to be 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:53.079 difficult enough in some respects to get a big play 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.199 offense like the Buffalo Bills into a lot of third downs. 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.040 But if the Packers get them into third down, they're 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.160 gonna have to They're gonna have to get off the 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:05.319 field that way. I mean for the green Bay Pratt Packers, 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.240 you ask about how they win this game. To me, 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.600 there's three things that this is going to boil down 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.800 to it. It It is the third down defense. They need 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:13.720 that to hold true in this game, as you mentioned 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.880 third right now in the National Football League. It is 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:17.920 their red zone defense, their six right now in the 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:22.200 National Football League. If the Bills do get into deep territory, 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:23.960 you need to find ways to keep them out of 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.320 the end zone because they're not going to be punting 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.320 a ton. There's going to be plays that they are 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.880 going to extend. They're going to have ten play twelve 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:34.360 play drives. Do you generate turner takeaways off of that, 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.680 Are you able to stop them and force them to 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.600 send the field goal unit on yeah, and hey for 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.120 fourth and three from the forty five yard line. Sean 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.680 mcdermot's going forth most of the time. I mean, it's 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.560 it's not just the third down defense. You have to 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:47.800 be ready for them to for them to roll the 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.640 dice on fourth down to exactly and then obviously that's 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.520 something Green Bay is gonna have to take into account. 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.880 And realistically, it comes back to what happened last week 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.720 with Taylor Heineke. The Packers again, as I mentioned on 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.640 two Day's show, they had twenty nine pressures according to 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.800 Pro Football Focus, whatever it was nine quarterback hits or 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.240 sit whatever that number was. Maybe it was even more 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:12.280 than that one sack. Uh. The Packers have to be 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:18.200 able to finish plays pressure contain be smart about it. 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.440 That was another thing Kenny Clark and Dean Lawry Boll 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.760 talked about knowing your rush lanes, making sure that Alan 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.800 doesn't leak out because the dangerous thing about him is 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.040 he can make every throw from every point of the field. 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.440 He'll throw across the hashes if he has he sees 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.200 the opportunity. But he also is not afraid to talk 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.640 the ball and run it. That's where green Bay has 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.560 to be able to hold up. And also I know 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:40.360 it's been a grind for green Bay with the run 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.720 defense so far this season seven or whatever it is 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:46.240 in the league right now. Making sure that Singletary doesn't 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.760 get a lot of production, making sure that Alan doesn't 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:50.920 leak out. You do want to make sure that you're 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:54.520 forcing this thing to the past, because to me, green 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.960 Bay it's been They've been in this drought with takeaways 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.440 and turnovers that I think can only last so long. 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.640 You can only get your hands on so many passes 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.400 before those things finally start getting caught. They need takeaways 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:07.320 in this matchup. Yeah, absolutely, and and and Buffalo has 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.960 given the ball away ten times so far this year. 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.280 That ranks, you know, around the bottom third of the 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.400 league in terms of the giveaways. And we had talked 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.400 on our last show about how the Packers had they 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.400 got the big pick six, they almost had another defensive 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:24.120 score if not for the penalty, but they had opportunities 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.040 for other turnovers. And you get your hands on the ball, 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:28.720 you've got it. You've got to cash in on it. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.880 You can't let those chances get away. On the offensive side, 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.680 as I talked about before, the Packers are trying to 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:38.200 figure themselves out there, trying to clean up the mental mistakes, 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:44.280 the physical mistakes the Packers just offensively, especially against the 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.560 number one defense in the league. You've got to play 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.960 as clean of football as you can play. The mental 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.520 errors that Aaron Rodgers is talking about of the plays 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.920 that they're running, have a mental error by somebody, a 0:16:56.000 --> 0:17:00.920 missed assignment by somebody that can't continue. The physical mistakes, 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:04.520 the drop passes, the poor technique that leads to holding calls. 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.480 Those are the Packers simply have to have to clean 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:15.520 up everything to give themselves opportunities against a against a 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:19.600 Buffalo defense. Because what's going to help what's going to 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.200 help you out the most against Josh Allen is too, 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.520 is to create a game with fewer possessions. Right, you 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:29.840 can't let Josh Allen take the field thirteen or fourteen times. 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.639 So the way you do that is by is by 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.399 getting back to and you had mentioned this an insider inbox, 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.920 getting back to winning the time of possession. The Packers 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.840 need to convert on third down move the chains shorten 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:44.920 the game in the sense of in the sense of 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.120 not putting your defense out there as many times against 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:53.040 a guy like Josh Allen. There's a there's so much 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.640 that the Packers need to clean up offensively, but at 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.520 some point they're going to do it. And and when 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.000 they do it, we're gonna gonna see it. We're gonna 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.000 know what it looks like and uh, and we're gonna 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.120 see a team that's gonna give itself a much better 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.320 chance to win regardless of the opponent, compared to what 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.440 we've seen the last couple of weeks. Exactly and offensively, 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:16.520 maximizing your opportunities first down, being able to move the ball, 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:20.080 get first downs, being able to actually generate big plays 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.919 organically in not having to force them. That was the 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:24.719 other thing you. You had made a comment in in 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:27.639 box earlier this week about the about the second and longs, 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.040 and I went I went back and counted from the 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:33.119 Washington game, and if I counted correctly, I counted six 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:36.280 different times in the game the Packers were in second 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.760 and ten or more. Six times second and ten or more. 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.480 You can't live that way on offense. It's just that 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:45.440 that that's just that's not a way you can survive 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.800 in this league. It doesn't mean it doesn't mean you 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:50.679 have to be in second and two all day, but 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:52.560 you need to be in second and six and second 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:54.520 and five most of the day to give yourself a chance, 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.840 because if you're in a position, god forbid, I think 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:59.439 there's even a couple of second and if you're in 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.760 that spot, that's not how you generate a fifty five 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:06.200 yard pass play to Sammy Watkins. You generate those type 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.520 of opportunities sitting in third and short, sitting in second 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:12.400 and manageable, being able to give the defense a lot 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.200 to consider and how they want to defend you. That's 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.000 going to be paramount in this game. And if I 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.880 may to throw in, it's not just offense and defense. 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:22.760 Special teams is going to have a big part to 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.000 play in this too. Time of possession in the field 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:30.440 situationally is going to be critical. Uh Isaiah McKenzie is 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.320 one of the best kickoff returners Nobody in the National 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:35.760 Football League really ever talks about. Uh is a dynamic guy. 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:37.600 If he's able to take it out of the end zone. 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.159 Jamison Crowder has been doing it for so long in 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.240 the National Football League, has been so consistent in that 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.280 way a guy that maybe hasn't broken one for touchdown 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.840 yet this year on punts, but has been able to 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:52.320 give them an extra eleven twelve twenty yards off their 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:55.480 punt returns. Green Bay has to be able to win 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.400 the time of possession and has to win the field position. 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.439 I think those are the two small things in this 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:03.000 matchup when you talk about little details that are really 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.160 going to be looming over this game and making it 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:07.560 making the Packers not be the ten point dogs, and 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:09.800 everyone thinks they are pro proving that they still are 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:13.240 the Super Bowl contender. A month ago everybody believed them 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:17.159 to be. Yeah. Absolutely, I agree with you. Some sponsor 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.240 business here West Serious x M NFL Radio delivers hard 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:23.440