WEBVTT - Jason Biggs 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:14.200 Okay, so today's introduction is kind of like a post introduction. 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:17.200 So we're coming at the end of the episode because 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:21.840 I fucked up in this episode. I fucked up. I 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.120 didn't even introduce my next guest. We just were off 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:28.120 to the races, me and this brilliant man and his 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.040 brilliant mind, and I at the end of the episode 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.400 was like, shit, I didn't even introduce you. I, if 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:36.720 you can imagine, didn't even ask him who or what 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.720 he wants to say thanks to. Will never know spoiler, 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.120 We're never gonna know who or what my next guest 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.199 wants to say thanks to. But I can tell you 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:48.960 who my next guest is. I didn't do it in 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.519 front of them, didn't do this beautiful intro in front 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:55.160 of them, which would have been so delicious too. But anyway, 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.520 I'm doing it now because that's what you, as the 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:02.280 listener deserve, that's what my guest deserves, and I demand justice. 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:04.839 I fucked up, and I'm the one who demanded justice. 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.720 How's that for versatility. My next guest is an actor 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:16.440 whose directorial debut, titled untitled Home Invasion Romance, is streaming 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:22.480 now on Hulu. My next guest spoiler is Jason Biggs. 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.800 We have a very good conversation that I think you 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.280 would enjoy. I certainly enjoyed myself, if that is not 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.039 obvious by the fact that I forgot to introduce him. 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.760 We just were you ever just off to the races. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.160 We've skipped all the small talk and we got in there. 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:41.319 You're gonna enjoy it. I enjoyed it again. You're gonna 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.600 enjoy it. Or your money back guaranteed. iHeart will refund 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:48.040 you for something. Submit a receipt for anything you've bought 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.520 in the last sixty days, and iHeart will refund you. 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:54.400 If you don't like this conversation, They're not gonna do that, 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:58.560 but you will like this conversation. I feel really confident. Anyway, 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:01.800 time for me to talk to Jason Biggs and you 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:10.040 to watch and or listen. Do you know that? Do 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.320 you know the Gucci main song where he goes I 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:17.000 think the song is Roland. I had never done drugs 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:22.400 and still then I've had marijuana before and a mushroom chocolate? 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:24.559 Is that really? It? 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:29.720 Is? That? Really? It? Yeah? Which is that sad? Do 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:30.720 you think I'm missing out? 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.320 Drugs are fun? Drugs are fun, but. 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:44.600 Yeah, no, I mean I kind of wish that I 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.560 lived my life in a in a more sort of 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:52.120 chill manner to the point where it's like, I, yeah, 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:55.200 I could do with mushroom chocolate here or there, smoke 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.400 a little weed and take it or leave it. I mean, 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:58.880 is that kind of your attitude with it? 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:00.000 Yeah? 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:05.320 Yeah, I'm the exact opposite. I'm a sober alcoholic and 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.640 drug addict and I love drugs and alcohol. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:12.560 Okay, and I up yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:15.240 They're fucking great when they served me well for a 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:16.160 long time because. 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:19.200 They did serve you well, yes say okay, yeah, yeah no, because. 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.920 I mean it was you know you you it was 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.240 it helped me. I did not want to be present, 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:29.119 and I did not I wanted to ignore the bad 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:33.440 ship and have fun and. 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.960 And so yeah, no, it was. There's a you know, 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.160 there's a reason people get, you know, into them. 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:40.680 Yes, you're good, you're good. 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:42.480 Do you have until they're terrible? 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.080 Right? And that's like when it's like too much? Because 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.000 everything in moderation they serve, right. 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:48.960 That's what that's what that's what they say. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.240 They who the who are they? 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.400 Who are they? 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:53.000 Yourselves? 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:57.080 I did not listen to them when I first partook 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:01.800 of drugs and alcohol and I went, I went flying 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.880 rolling the other direction. 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.840 So that's right, which I thought. He meant like, are 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:08.120 you coming with us? Right? 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:11.760 I'm tagging along? 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:17.960 Yes the longest time, I mean fifteen years later, I'm like, oh, 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.240 that's what, And now all the verses of the song 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:25.040 make sense. Do you have addicts in your family? 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:26.920 Yeah? 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:31.600 Yeah, in uh not in the you know, I think 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.320 it's that that that part of the brain that sort 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:38.800 of U that that that compulsive part of the brain 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.559 that is sort of I think there's a connection, whether 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:47.480 it's food or shopping, all the addiction. I'm sorry, sorry, 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.479 but there is a sorry Hollywood's Holly. 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.160 They literally don't ever call me. How do I get 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:58.880 them to call me? I'll tell them please reach out? 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:03.599 No, I I yeah, there's I mean, there's clearly like 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.800 a connection that part of the brain. I know, people 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.320 with food stuff and I even I have. You know, 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:09.960 for me, it's been whack a mole, Like I got 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.240 rid of drugs and alcohol, but it pops up in 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:16.120 other ways. I know when my brain starts getting into 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.839 that sort of space that could be a little bit 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.400 dangerous and it presents in different ways for me. But yeah, 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:24.599 so I have people in my family and my life 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:29.080 that it has reared its head in different ways and 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:33.800 at different points in their lives. So I recognize some 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.640 of those tendencies in other people in my life. But 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:41.279 I would say I'm the only person. I think that's 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.440 not true. I have a sibling who's sort of dealt 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:49.479 with it and addressed it, but yeah, I'm kind of 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:55.640 the one who's, like, you know, gone twelve step program. 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:59.600 And not to say that anyone else needs it, but 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:05.600 my version of my addiction had gotten too extreme for 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.039 me to be able to live my life in a 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:14.160 way that you know, I could be a good person, parent, friend, 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:14.960 et cetera. 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:16.839 Yeah, coworker, what have you? 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.760 Yeah, you said that, like you can sense yourself when 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.960 the compulsions are arising, and you kind of know how 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.000 to get ahead of it. Now, So beyond the twelve 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.960 step program, what are other ways you sort of cope 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.520 and keep yourself centered rounded? 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.520 It's a great question, I am. Yeah. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:38.560 Uh, friends, Like you know, like fellowship is the sort 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.760 of the AA term, but like it is, it's a 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:47.320 you know, I first, I I first tried to get 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:51.000 sober My son is twelve and a half, so when 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.080 my wife was pregnant with him, so over thirteen years. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:55.279 Ago, and. 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.520 I, uh, part of the reason why I couldn't stay 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:03.000 sober I kept relapsing is I would go to the AA, 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:04.560 I would go to meetings and stuff, but then I 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.800 would never First of all, I didn't yeah, I didn't 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.600 like get a sponsor or do the steps or any 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.440 of the sort of the quote unquote work. But also 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:17.080 the biggest thing was I wouldn't hang out with anybody 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.640 who who was like minded or had was going through 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:21.240 a similar thing. 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:21.360 You know. 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:22.800 I'd go to the meetings and. 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.400 People would come up to me and say hello and 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.680 try to you know, hey, let's hang out, you want 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.280 my number, whatever, But I was so like hat down 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.360 hood up, kind of in the back, you know, would 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.040 leave before the very end, so I didn't have to 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:36.000 engage with anybody. 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.920 I was just very you know. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.760 It was the same reason I I my drinking and 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:46.720 drugging got so bad. Partly was because I isolates. That 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.280 was sort of my Yeah, I would I would just 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.840 sort of retreat inward. Yeah, And I kept doing that 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.560 even when I first tried to get sober and so naturally, 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:57.960 I just continued to relapse and. 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:00.600 It didn't work for me. So yeah, so call somebody. 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.000 I call, you know, if I feel myself getting squirrely, 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.840 you know, I'll I'll call another alcoholic or even just 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.120 a friend. Yeah, there's someone I can could just get 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.920 out of my own space. Ask somebody else how they're doing. 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.200 Let me hear your story, tell me, because you know 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.600 what perspective is important and like it. 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.440 It's it's just not all about me. That's the thing. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.520 When I'm drinking and drugging, it's just all about me. 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:26.160 Yeah, yeah, I care about anyone else or anything else. 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.160 I just want to focus on myself. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.680 Yeah, it's easy to get in that space for I 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.880 feel like even a non alcoholic, there's so much in 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:37.480 there's it's yeah, to isolate and to especially this. 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.360 Day, especially now, because we all have a new drug. 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:42.240 Is it this drug? 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:43.280 It is that drug. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.520 Hollywood is not calling me, but this drug it's. 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.440 Still there's there's still some some highs you can get. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:50.840 It's from that little device. 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.720 It's true. I just moved my last night before bed. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:57.959 I have not gotten text notifications and they've not been 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:02.960 on on my phone in prop I'm gonna say eleven years. 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.680 And is that all the time I go or just 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.120 at night like you said all the time? 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:07.880 Wow? No, So like I you. 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.800 Have to go actively to your text message app to see, 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:11.960 oh who's checking out? 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.160 Yes, like the red bubble would give me anxiety. So 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.240 like there's been eleven years no notifications. But the problem 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:19.920 is now I know I need to go to my 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.240 text messaging app to see who's texted, and I can 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:27.040 do that compulsively, right, So like it really worked for 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.120 a while, and then of course my brain adjusted and 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:30.720 is like, well, now we'll just be going to text. 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:32.840 So last night it didn't even occur to me. I 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.080 was like, you can move that text messaging app from 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.320 the top left corner. It's the number one. I was like, 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.520 I'm putting it on page four of my homepage. And 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:45.160 then I'm going to this notification center and saying, do 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:47.559 not even suggest I opened this, and while we're here, 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.720 don't suggest I open Instagram either. 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:53.200 And while we're also here, stop yelling at me, yeah phone, yes, 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:54.720 tell me what to do. 0:09:55.160 --> 0:10:00.800 And then shaming my own Yeah, imagine I bought you. You 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.360 just supposed to serve me, and you're gonna shame me 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.000 every Sunday and tell me your phone use this week. 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:11.160 Oh my god, you're up twenty seven percent from last week. 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:13.080 That possible, But I didn't. 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.040 I didn't do this this week, and I didn't open 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.080 that up this week. And I'm like, I didn't imagine 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:21.160 this little shaming device we have. But I do think 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.960 fellowship is so important and it's something that I it's 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.560 so easy to forget and neglect. And again, because we 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.200 have these devices and we all have the things that 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:34.480 are that we ruminate on, it's it's so easy to isolate. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.679 But I find it really interesting. So tell me if 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:40.120 I misinterpreted this moment. When you said fellowship, there was 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:44.160 this kind of sort of like indication from you nonverbally 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:47.640 that it's cheesy, that like the word is cheesy, like's 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.480 what we say and A did you feel that. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:50.439 A little bit? Yeah? 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.640 And also I think I was cringing a little because 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:56.920 I was trying to sort of get away from sort 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.760 of give you an example that was separate from the 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.200 grant from AA in the program. And then but the 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:06.720 word fellowship is very program centric, so I was I 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.920 was like, oh, fellowship, but but friendship friends people other people, 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.320 the idea being. 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:13.920 It's just not all about you. 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:18.000 And if you can give yourself, give your time to 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:22.120 someone else and and ask questions and you know, like 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.320 it's it's doesn't have to be another alcoholic, you know, 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:29.000 just like get out of this for this is this is, 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:30.880 this wants to bring me down. 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:35.320 It's so crazy, little enemy inside you wild and I 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.360 there's been times when I've been down myself and I go, 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:39.800 what am I gonna do? What am I going to do? 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.760 And because you know, I'll probably shop impulsively, and they 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:46.160 make it way too easy, too easy, too easy Apple pay, 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:50.000 the game of paying for things. I'm like, that's real money. 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:54.040 That's real. Wait it is, Jason, you might be in 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:54.760 a ship ton of. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:12:00.600 Debt the Apple Apple Pay that's like mono money. It 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.080 even has tips and not believe Apple. 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:07.920 It's real money. It's real money. That little thing like 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:12.520 that's money coming out of your bank account. Yeah, okay, 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:16.000 I'm sorry to break this to you. They make you, 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.160 they make you forget. 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.439 It really is really is crazy. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:23.840 And even the places they they've taken my addiction to Instagram, 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:27.840 for example, and they've layered in my addiction to shopping 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.280 in there, They're like, you know, this guy is an addict. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.440 He's on me all the time Instagram saying this, he's 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.680 on me all the time. I bet you, Hey, other 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:38.560 drugs come here? 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.800 Hey so true? 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.000 You want to Hey, bet you he'll shop on this. 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.120 I bet you give him one little pop up ad. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.480 I bet you he'll buy it. I bet you this 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:49.360 will buy a fuck. 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:49.920 Yeah. 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.840 Oh my god, I think I'm half of my outfit 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:54.439 is Instagram. 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.600 Instagram. Well it's funny because when you came in and 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.400 this is no judgment, and you were like, are those 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.880 the Alaiyah ballet flats? I have to I have to 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:07.640 ask how did you know? Because I did grapple with 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:12.040 get the Alaya ballet flats? Or get these? Stad are these? 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.280 But but they look gere, I love I love it. 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:18.200 I just something about the construction shape is better from. 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.120 My foot, but but they look awesome. 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.040 If did you know. 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:28.160 About the ballet flats? That's great question? Uh? Well, I 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.520 am married. I mean I have you know a. 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.360 Wife who who who I believe also has a pair 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.800 of Aliyah balant Okay, so I also have an appreciation 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:40.240 for fashion, Like I am not particularly fashionable, but I 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:41.120 appreciate it. 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:42.719 I certainly appreciate it. 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:48.240 And I think I used to be something that I 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.800 didn't fully understand or care about for the longest time. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.920 And again current outfit doesn't. 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:56.960 Well we have Instagram to think for that. 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.040 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, But I do appreciate some 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.319 of the nicer thing, you know. It's it's there are 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.200 certain things I go, really, who could spend them? But 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.360 then I've found myself, you know, like indulging in certain 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:12.200 you know, pieces, wardrobe pieces. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.920 I'm like, that actually is really cool. I do see it. 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:15.960 It does make I get it. 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:17.840 I get it when you're and then people are like, 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:19.920 well just get the like you know, the other version 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.520 thing again but something, but it is again it's a 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:28.160 it's the psychology of branding and luxury that like sort 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:31.480 of but for me, I mean, I yeah, I I 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:35.960 am you know, I still I love a deal real real, 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.520 shout out real real, shout out real real. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.000 There you go, shout out real real. 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:44.280 Yeah, okay, yeah, and but but yeah, I I don't know, 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.760 I just I don't know why. I I just also 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:50.200 like I'm also kind of I do say I'm I 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:55.920 will say that I'm hyper aware of of stuff that happens, 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.720 Like in terms of trends and stuff, I'm fascinated by 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.720 trends and like who's wearing what and why not to 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.120 say that I'm on there. I'm always behind, like I'm 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.320 personally in behind, but I'm like aware of it in 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.760 pop culture, and I've noticed that the Eliyah ballet flats 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.480 have been a really big thing and I and I 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.720 happen to really like them. There are some trends that 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.520 I'm like, I don't get that one so much. I 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.720 don't quite know why, like the like the another one 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:24.760 seemingly currently you tell me it goes like the the 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.680 the flip flop heel, the heel flip, you know, like 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:29.560 the the what do you call it? 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:34.360 The thong thong sandalo, the heel, the heel with the heel. 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.720 Okay, you know what I mean is that currently kind 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:40.040 of a thing. 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:41.520 It's a healed tho sandal. 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:42.600 It's a heel. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.400 Thonged sandal that like you know, the you know that 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.560 you know, you've say Laurent has a pair or like whoever, 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.120 like the nicer and I'm just like, I don't see it, 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:52.800 you don't see it. 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.560 And okay, just so I can imagine it correctly because. 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.600 Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's not a trend if you don't. 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.200 Do a lot of online shop. I do a lot 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.400 of it. So I've seen the it's a high, I've 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.040 seen the high heel. Yeah, I has one that's like 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:04.640 a high. 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.040 Maybe Aliah has. I feel like it's a lot of 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:08.080 people kind of have. 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.520 Yeah, you don't like a heel thong stand of why 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:11.160 what is yours? 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.960 I just don't like the silhouette for some reason. It doesn't. 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.680 It doesn't. It's not aesthetically appealing to me. Do you 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:17.600 and I'm a foot guy? 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.320 Your foot? Are you on Wiki feet a lot? I'm 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:26.880 not lie, you fucking liar, guilty as fuck. I don't know. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.880 Have you ever looked at your Wiki feet rating? 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.280 No, I'm honestly I mean this. I'm not on Wiki feet, 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:34.640 but I do need to. I'm gonna check it out. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:38.280 You're a guy, do you kiss feet? Your wife's of course? Yeah, 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:42.760 your kids kids? Of course? That maybe makes that makes sense, 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.800 it's pure, But like you're you're into feet for real? 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:47.480 I like that. I appreciate feet. 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.400 I think feet can be sexy each but I also 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.280 think feet oh no, no, shame listen. You can't, but 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.560 know no shame, no judgment. I bring it. You judge 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.120 the funk out of me. I don't care, no, but 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.440 like I in the same way that I like good feet, 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:07.720 I also am like, oh. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.600 When you're walking around New York City and. 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:14.080 Close that toe, close that toe shoe. You need some clothes, 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:15.600 toe shoes. 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.840 You've thought this while walking past someone in the city. 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:20.680 It seemed like, yeah, closed. 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.160 To like rocket closed, it's time for you to start 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:23.600 rocking close. 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:25.680 Are your feet, by the way, they're okay? 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:30.200 The Pican Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a many petty guy. 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:34.760 Oh really, manny as well? Clear polish no polish. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:38.720 No polish many less so because I can kind, I 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.400 can do a fairly decent I. 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:41.960 Ask you something. 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:42.880 You want to see my feet? 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:49.360 No? Sorry, but now that you've offered, yes, he's offered, 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:49.920 it's okay. 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:54.639 They're okay. They're not like down, they're fine. 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.879 Yeah, they're they're fine. I wouldn't see that foot and 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.119 go put it away, right, but you wouldn't see and 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:04.000 that's her foot. I used to be a ballerina, so okay, 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.120 you can imagine. Yeah, sure, mine are little. I think 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.480 they're good for I quit just in time. 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.800 Okay, you know, I quit Permanent MGE. 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.360 But then I ran a half marathon and that created 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:15.440 its own damage. 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:17.720 One half marathon, the. 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:21.320 Training, the wrong size shoe, et cetera. So whatever, But yes, 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:23.920 your nails. What I wanted to see is if there 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:24.880 was dirt under them. 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:29.120 No, I keep and it's earlier day. Yeah, yeah, they're 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.840 pretty sure. I don't feel like there's dirt cavities. 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:33.879 I do want to ask this dumb ass question that 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:37.200 I ask. I find myself wanting to ask people in 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:40.399 conversation while claiming I don't care or know anything about it. 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:41.560 What is your sign? 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.479 What is my sign? I saw you? Ask Will Ferrell. 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.840 I've asked everybody. Yeah, I see, Like, I don't know, 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:48.840 but what's your's? 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.400 Funny when he was doing this and. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.639 You're like what that? It really wasn't coming to me. 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:55.960 But I'm a Taurus. 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:57.480 Oh I'm scared of you? 0:18:57.680 --> 0:18:57.960 Are you? 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.520 Are you bull? Bulls? I'm a Pisces. 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:07.640 Pisces okay, fish fish, I forget the compatibility you did? 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:08.560 How was it? 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:13.440 It went really poorly? Okay, remarkably poorly. I guess I've 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.840 seen I just watched it like crazy Netflix documentary called 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.000 a Toxic Love Story, So I want to did you 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.359 see that? We gotta talk. We're getting into that. 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.879 Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait that's hold on, 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:25.959 hold on, hold on Toxic Love Story. 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.680 Wait no, I haven't. It's cue. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:30.119 But it's like top of my list. It was the 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.480 one I watched, the one there was another. Okay, never mind, No, 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:34.280 I haven't seen yet. 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:34.920 Is amazing. 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.879 It's really good. It's really good. Here's the thing. If 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:39.960 you've seen it, it's a little scary, but not like 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.280 don't watch it at night scary. I mean, maybe don't 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.040 watch it. I watched it on the morning on a 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:48.000 train from Maryland to New York. Okay, so I couldn't 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.639 have felt safer. And I happened to be next to 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.520 a woman who's from Orange County and the documentary takes 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:56.720 place in Orange County. So I kept wanting to be like, man, 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.040