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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey everyone, it is Team between Prank Teine and.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to Eyes up there with print Stein

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Speaker 3: and the iHeart Rating Network or where we eat the podcast.

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Speaker 3: As always, I'm joined by my co host Chad. It

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Speaker 3: is very early in the morning, tide, but we are

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Speaker 3: here because we're on a mission today. Oh he's got

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Speaker 3: a sunglasses one again. He's too cool for the room

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Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen looking on them. What is this? What

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Speaker 3: are you doing?

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Speaker 2: You're freaking me out.

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Speaker 4: You're so bright. I gotta wear shades.

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Speaker 3: That's it, really, that's the realizing that you're not telling

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Speaker 3: me about.

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Speaker 4: No, it's just its eyes up here. It's Tuesday, it's

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Speaker 4: iHeart Radio. Yeah, the chatter is ready to go.

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Speaker 3: You're ready to rock and roll. Well, I can't see

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Speaker 3: I don't like not seeing your eyes because I need

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Speaker 3: to know if you're focused or not. Because there's a big,

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Speaker 3: big controversy going on because of this one documentary and

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Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about it because I had a

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Speaker 3: chance to view it yesterday and it is the WrestleMania

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Speaker 3: forty Behind the curtains.

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Speaker 2: Oh hi, yes, big finish, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: The pay per view WrestleMania that was held this year

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Speaker 3: in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and they're saying it was the biggest pay.

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Speaker 2: Per view of all time.

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Speaker 3: It broke the merch records, it broke viewing records. I

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Speaker 3: loved it.

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Speaker 2: It was great and from my hometown.

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Speaker 3: So I felt the buzz because I was at Russell

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Speaker 3: Cohn and I got to talk to a lot of

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Speaker 3: the fans that were going, and you know, it definitely

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Speaker 3: left its mark on the world of professional wrestling. But

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Speaker 3: if you watch this documentary, it.

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Speaker 2: Talks about how Cody Rhodes.

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Speaker 3: Was supposed to finish the story that was the big

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Speaker 2: Finish his story or not? Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: And there's a lot of controversy because The Rock seems

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Speaker 3: a big Dwayne Johnson, the Rock fan. You could say

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Speaker 3: you're an advocate for him if you will. First of all,

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Speaker 3: what did you think about the overall documentary.

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Speaker 4: This is why ww is the leader in sports and entertainment.

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Speaker 4: This is why as a sports and entertainment production student,

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Speaker 4: I wanted to work for them. Their production value is

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Speaker 4: on another level. This was an amazing hour of wrestling

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Speaker 4: footage that was shown. I mean, just for them to

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Speaker 4: just give you enough, not everything, just give you just enough,

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Speaker 4: but so perfectly shot, so well done. I loved every

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I've said it a million times over

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Speaker 3: no pun intended because it's the title. But behind the curtain,

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Speaker 3: right you're seeing backstage footage.

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Speaker 2: You're like an insider so to speak.

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Speaker 3: You're getting to see the matches be put together, the

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Speaker 3: It's interesting as a fan to be able to watch

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Speaker 3: So I love this kind of document to watch, and

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of guys who are going to curse,

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Speaker 2: But watching this, I'm like, he's calm, he's cool.

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Speaker 2: Is there a reaction that we didn't see?

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Speaker 3: What you know, was the plan all along told to

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Speaker 2: Cameras are wrong.

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Speaker 2: That as a fan, you're not sure what is real

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Speaker 3: But in the same token, and it played off beautifully

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think once that nightmare express door closed,

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Speaker 4: wouldn't want it picked up to portray Cody Rhodes is

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Speaker 3: Guy and nothing is wrong with that. It's human emotion, Like,

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Speaker 2: Something like that? You know what I mean? His demeanor

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Speaker 3: You know that you will you see it backstage. It's

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Speaker 4: I think he might have been I think he could

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Speaker 4: What do you say twenty twenty one, they started talking

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Speaker 3: And also, my husband made a point, he was like,

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Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this before we even get

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he's been an executive for a U and.

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Speaker 4: Now he's running the show. This is him running, this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the strain and the stress on that

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Speaker 4: Well, so when he was first coming back, he was

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Speaker 4: Well, he got the taste for sure, you know he

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Speaker 3: Well even still he's on the board. So isn't that enough, Like,

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Speaker 2: Agreed, because he does not know he does not okay?

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Speaker 3: So is it because he feels like it's good overall

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, his like I said, his return

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, it was just a question that

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Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit of both. I think

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Speaker 4: And what I did love though, is as they were

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Speaker 3: So you're you're hitting the nail on the head, you

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Speaker 4: I think Rock saw the Big four to oher and

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Speaker 3: So this whole build up, right, they're saying from three

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Speaker 4: To do it.

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Speaker 3: Did I mean, do we know if the office had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, couldn't it.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't you wait till next year?

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Speaker 3: You know, Cody wins blah blah blah, and then you

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Speaker 4: And that it so was this at some point figured

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Speaker 3: That's what I don't like about this whole scenario, you know,

442
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: because I'm telling you things could change in the blink

443
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 3: of an eye. We all know this by now, Like

444
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 3: my name would be on the wall and five minutes

445
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 3: later I'd look and it be crossed out and then

446
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: I'd come back and it'd be back on the wall

447
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: when I worked for WWE. Right, things can change the

448
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: night of But this is WrestleMania, you know. This is

449
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 3: some thing that everybody builds up to and everybody wants

450
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 3: to be a part of and reverse the roles. Like

451
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 3: if it was the Rock and somebody came in and

452
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: tried to do that to him, would he like it?

453
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like I just as a.

454
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: Human being, like, just think about it. And I know

455
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: that a lot of people don't put that into consideration

456
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 3: because everybody wants to get themselves over.

457
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: But in watching this documentary, I was just.

458
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 3: Like they could have just, you know, made him come

459
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: out the raw after WrestleMania and then start a year

460
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: long feud between him and Cody and put Roman reigns

461
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: when he comes back, put him in this scenario and

462
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: just build it up. And I don't know, Like for me,

463
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: I just wish it would have it didn't have to

464
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: go to this extreme.

465
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 4: In my head, if you want somewhat WW history, I

466
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 4: go back to two thousand and two when they brought

467
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 4: in Hogan, Hall and Nash and Austin in the Rock

468
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 4: were the two biggest guys, and literally it drove Steve

469
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 4: Austin eventually out of the company because Steve Austin was

470
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 4: on the brink of his uh you know, breakdown essentially

471
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 4: where he walked out where the creative was so bad

472
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 4: because they had so many egos of what direction do

473
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 4: you go in that they ended up having to book

474
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 4: themselves into a corner and book Hogan versus The Rock.

475
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: So they ended up booking a dream match because they

476
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 4: had no place to go because so many guys had

477
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 4: so many hands in so many pots that they wanted

478
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 4: to go in one direction and they had to go

479
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 4: in this direction, in this direction because so many people

480
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 4: would say yes and then no and that we can't

481
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 4: do this, we can't do this. So that's the only

482
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 4: thing I could point to where Rock would have seen

483
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 4: where something we were supposed to go this way, but

484
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 4: then because of this other thing coming in, we had

485
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 4: to pivot. So he maybe he was just like, yeah,

486
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: political guard, Yeah, I'm here, it's the smell what I'm cooking.

487
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: I'm here, we smell it and it smells like.

488
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 4: So then like you said about Cody, right, yeah, So

489
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 4: like you said, just all around professional the guy exudes

490
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 4: the central babyface of twenty twenty four. This is the

491
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 4: guy that kids love, he said, he's The quote he

492
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: had was essentially I'm paraphrasing because I don't have the

493
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 4: exact one. But he's been the champion without the belt

494
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 4: on the road. Okay, I think that's pretty accurate.

495
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: I you know, from what I've seen of Cody, he's

496
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: great with fans. He's a company man, he's a team player.

497
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: He took this on the chin, he really did, and

498
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 3: he just went with it, and like I said, kudos

499
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: to him. I don't know how much was acting inside.

500
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 3: It's got to be eaten up. It had to be

501
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: because they put all their faith in one guy, who

502
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 3: is Cody Rhodes, and then it's like, no, buddy, you're

503
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: not going to get it this time. It's kind of

504
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: a slap in the face. You work really really hard

505
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 3: for something and then you don't get it, And to me, that's.

506
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 2: Just a shitty move. You know.

507
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: So then we see we see we want Cody trending,

508
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: and it starts trending for seventy two hours straight. Anytime

509
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: you you went on your socials, all I saw was

510
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: hashtag we want Cody, yeah everywhere. So now when it

511
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 3: was announced, they showed reactions and this was pretty cool.

512
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 3: They showed reactions of twitch streamers and YouTubers and gave

513
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 3: them credit underneath for their channels and all this stuff.

514
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 4: Yes, which I had a gripe with WWE. Okay, where

515
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 4: were we reacted to all that? Where were we credit?

516
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: Yes?

517
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 4: Twitch streamers got random, Twitch people got credit. What the heck?

518
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 4: Ww you got right here?

519
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: It's okay, it's fine.

520
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: But they showed the reactions were finally getting the Rock

521
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: and Roman, and everybody at first was like, yes, this

522
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: is so great, but then it kind of sunk in

523
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: and I was like, wait a minute, Cody doesn't get

524
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: to finish his story. So then it kind of turned

525
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: and most people were pissed off and they started tweeting

526
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: and writing about it and reacting to it, and people

527
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 3: were legit hot, legit hot, like I mean, people were

528
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: like almost rioting. They were so mad. I remember somebody

529
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: told me after one of the shows, a live event,

530
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: they went out and they started flipping trash cans because

531
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: they were so in the parking lot. They were so

532
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: pissed off, they started flipping the trash cans so mad

533
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: wrestling fans are very passionate.

534
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: If you didn't know Cody, cry babies, if you ask.

535
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 3: Me, cry baby Cody. Yeah, you're the Cody cribabies. Well,

536
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call.

537
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 4: It, you're a man.

538
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 3: What the rock is.

539
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: The rock now?

540
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: And this is the means have been going nuts? There

541
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: he is, there, he is, and and he he feels

542
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: the pain of the band and who knows what they want?

543
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: And they want Cody. So he says, we need to

544
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: pivot and we need to think of something.

545
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: That's going to make everybody happy. So so initially he

546
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: is taking credit for the call of.

547
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: Putting Cody back into the title scene. What do you

548
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: think about that?

549
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 4: Smart guy, smartest man.

550
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: It was his idea.

551
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: He called Nick con he called Ari Emanuel. Ari Emmanuel

552
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 4: sat there for a second and then said, fuck yeah, let's.

553
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: Do Wait a minute.

554
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: You don't think this had anything to do with triple

555
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: age or creative saying, uh w W. Universe is really

556
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: pissed off, like we have to think of something.

557
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 4: You think this was all the rock reck. You gotta

558
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 4: step aside rock, Get the hell out of the picture, buddy,

559
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 4: get the get the memo.

560
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you the memes.

561
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: The memes were going crazy and they're creating them all

562
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: over the place. So one said, I said to Vince

563
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: let's oh, I said to Vince, let's call it. WrestleMania

564
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: was one of the memes. So he created WrestleMania. Another

565
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 3: guy said to Steve Austin, I said, Steve, just call

566
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: it the stone Cold Stunner, and he created the stone

567
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: Cold Stunner. Another one said, I was a kid just

568
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: shaking my hips, and then mister Presley nodded his head

569
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: in approval. So he taught Elvis Presley how to dance.

570
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're comparing him. Oh shit, they're comparing

571
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 3: him to the haw Cogan lies that we talked about.

572
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: Haw Cogan was creating all these situations that put himself

573
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: over and people wanted.

574
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: Him in Metallica. People, you know, crazy stuff.

575
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: And these are the memes that are going around, and

576
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: they're pretty funny.

577
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: They're pretty funny.

578
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: And I don't know if the Rock is laughing or

579
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: if he's legit pissed at these, but there's a lot

580
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: of them out there.

581
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 4: You know what it reminds me of. Do you remember

582
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 4: when the Michael Jordan died documentary was out of The

583
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 4: Chicago Bulls documentary was out like two years ago, and

584
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 4: they started sharing the Michael Jordan meme where he was like,

585
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 4: and I took that shit personally, that's what this is now,

586
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 4: that's what that's this one. But he's I think a

587
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 4: lot of people look at the Rock in this, you know,

588
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 4: in this current state with the glasses and the shirt,

589
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 4: you know, the way he looks, and like, this is

590
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: not this is Dwayne Johnson, folks. This is not you know,

591
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 4: five hundred dollars shirt the Rock. This is this is

592
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: the guy shirt.

593
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: By the way, that's a very nice wearing, nice shirt.

594
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 4: This is the guy who he is. Now, Okay, you

595
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 4: got to keep that in mind. He's been hollywoodized. Okay,

596
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: so what do you think Hollywood people are. Okay, they

597
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 4: take credit for everything. They think that they're in this

598
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 4: dream world that they are where they're the center of

599
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 4: attention and everything that happens is revolving around them. So

600
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 4: of course he's gonna say that he came up with

601
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 4: the idea because in his world, everybody cowtows to him,

602
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: so he thought of it. Somebody, look at what he said.

603
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: Brian Goowartz is his right hand man, right, Brian Gerwartz

604
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 4: probably said something relating to Cody Rozi and they probably

605
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 4: said it, and I thought of it just like that,

606
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 4: So in his world maybe he did think of it.

607
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: I wish a Hunter they would have showed Hunter and

608
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: Triple H goes. Yeah, that was kind of my idea.

609
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 3: I wish it would have been something like Dueling, not

610
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: dueling ideas. Nonetheless, I feel like they do the right

611
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: thing and they change the booking, right, do you agree?

612
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 4: Yeah? I guess I mean it depending on you would have.

613
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: Rather seen the Rock and Roman reigns for this one?

614
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: Yes? I would have.

615
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So what would we have gotten Night one if

616
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: they if they kept it the way it was, what

617
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: would we have gotten Night one?

618
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 4: Cody in Andre the Giant Battle Royal, he would have

619
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 4: done well winning that.

620
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: You're not a Cody fan, I get it.

621
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: I can't.

622
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 4: I get it, get Cody and seth rawlins.

623
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying with the Rock and Roman, like, what

624
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: would we have gotten for Night one? Do you think?

625
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 4: Because that's a night Superman punch one, two, three, passes

626
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 4: the torch. That's it.

627
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: There's two nights to WrestleMania. The main event would have

628
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: been on night two.

629
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 4: What will we got Cody? Whatever Cody thing is to

630
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 4: no no night two, then Cody and Seth.

631
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: What I've gotten on night one is my question to you.

632
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: Then your main event of Night one is Rock and Roman.

633
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: You can't have Rock and Rooman two nights in a row.

634
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm saying. If you want a made event a

635
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 4: Night one, it's Rock and Roman. You want to made

636
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 4: event a Night two, it's Seth and Cody or vice versa.

637
00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: I don't.

638
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 4: If you got two championships and two nights, you got

639
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 4: to put one championship on each night.

640
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: You don't think that that the Rock wants to incorporate

641
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: himself in both shows like he did with the tag match.

642
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 3: They put the tag match on Night one and the

643
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: main event on Night two with all the run ins.

644
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 4: That's why I think that this was the plan all along.

645
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: So you're telling me.

646
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: That Creative knew he was coming back and fed Cody

647
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: lies this whole time.

648
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 4: That's your I think they were all in on it.

649
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: I think they were all in on it.

650
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 2: Well, that's kind of that's terrible. If that's the truth,

651
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: that's terrible. That's terrible.

652
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: WrestleMania one's first main event was a tag match, So

653
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 4: WrestleMania forty makes sense. Have a big tag match makes

654
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 4: perfect sense to me.

655
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: If you.

656
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: If you were the talent, if you were in Cody shoes,

657
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: wouldn't you feel slighted if this was the plan all

658
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 3: along and they're lying to you, do.

659
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: You want to work for a company like this?

660
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 4: Hey? He came back for the money, So I mean,

661
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 4: I guess, but you know the old Like I said,

662
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 4: the only thing that doesn't make sense to me is

663
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 4: the coming out on Raw or whatever show was. And

664
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 4: he gives the match to The Rock and says, I choose, Yeah,

665
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 4: I talked to my counsel and here's the Rock, right,

666
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: and then three days later is like, it's not your choice.

667
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 4: It's my choice to decide who I face it at WrestleMania.

668
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 4: But that then, that whole segment didn't happen, Like that's.

669
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 2: Because they changed.

670
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 3: That's when we want Cody things started, and that's why

671
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: that's when The Rock had the episphany, Oh my god,

672
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: the light bulb goes off. We have to appeace to

673
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: the WWE universe. I have to change this. According to the.

674
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 4: Document, Brian Gilwertz is the one that gave him the

675
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 4: idea then for the tag match, because Brian.

676
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 3: He's not crediting Brian for any of this, He's crediting himself.

677
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: So I don't know where you're getting your inem.

678
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 4: So, Brian Gowertz, he gave her the idea of the

679
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 4: tag match.

680
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 3: I don't know where you got that information.

681
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 4: He said that. He said it on the thing. He said,

682
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 4: Brian Gilwertz gave him the uh, gave him the idea

683
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 4: of the tag match.

684
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 3: He said it. He said that.

685
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 4: Showed a little picture of little Brian Gowertz.

686
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 3: I saw a little saw a picture of him one there.

687
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: I thought the Rock was taking credit for that as well.

688
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 4: That creative booking, Well he's said did take credit for it.

689
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 4: He said that Brian go Wertz gave him like the

690
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: template of.

691
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: The idea and he created to him.

692
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 4: Right, he's a rock. Here's this idea for you.

693
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: All I'm saying is that if this was the plan

694
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: from day one, shitty. Just shame on them. Shame on

695
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: them to build up somebody that much and just pull

696
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: it from them. And if the fans didn't react like

697
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 3: they did, I don't think it would have changed, right,

698
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: it would have been It would have been the same

699
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: exact thing, right, So you.

700
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the X factors to CM punk got injured

701
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 4: brings it up. He says, this wasn't happening. If CM

702
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: Punk didn't get injured, then we would have had Rollins

703
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 4: and Punk, right, and then.

704
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 3: What happened Even so, then what happens then, Yeah, Punk

705
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: was still in the equation. It would have been worse.

706
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Cody's definitely He's out.

707
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: Cody is worse man.

708
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 4: There would be no Cody Andre to Giant Battle Royal,

709
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: Great Spot for you, great Spot. I think it was well.

710
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: You could thank the w W A universe because I

711
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: truly believe that if they weren't adamant about this uh

712
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: we want Cody thing, it might have just been the scene.

713
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: We might have got a different result, and then Cody

714
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 3: would have on the back burner.

715
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 4: So can I tell you what my favorite part of

716
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 4: the documentary was.

717
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: I'm afraid to ask you.

718
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 4: Oh no, it's not nothing bad. I'm just pointing out

719
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: my favorite part when Rock walked the production crew through

720
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 4: the new entrance.

721
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: When he does this with the camera.

722
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 4: When he does the whole thing with the camera and

723
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 4: hit T square for where he wanted to be on

724
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 4: the mark again. That is why I love the wrestling

725
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 4: industry and wanted to be in wrestling production is because

726
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 4: of that, Because of just the whole thing that goes

727
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 4: into the rehearsal and how they walked through it and

728
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 4: the transformation from Babyface Rock and the heel. Oh my gosh,

729
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 4: it was just it was so great, and they showed

730
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 4: the run through that to me was worth the price

731
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 4: of watching this for an hour. It was just that

732
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 4: whole rehearsal segment that they had on here going through

733
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 4: a backstage and coming out and then Triple h coming

734
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 4: through it too, and seeing how it looked like. I

735
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 4: just thought that was so cool. So that's me was

736
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: my favorite part of this whole documentary.

737
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: And then you wonder why wrestlers get so hot when

738
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: the cameras miss certain moves, because if we're going to

739
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: do something, we always tell either the handheld or production

740
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: or something, hey I'm gonna do this move.

741
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: Make sure when you see.

742
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: So and so, you know, hit me with the chair

743
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 3: or when you give them a build up because your

744
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: move's coming up.

745
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 2: And when they miss.

746
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: That move, it's like, oh, that has happened so many times,

747
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: and it's so frustrating because, yeah, we do walk you

748
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: through it. We do, you know, if something BIG's happening,

749
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: we always do walk throughs and we tell them like

750
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 3: look out.

751
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 2: For this, and most of the time they're on the mark.

752
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: But when they miss.

753
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: It, it is so frustrating. I hate that, and that's

754
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: happened to me before too.

755
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 4: So this was just I mean they had two producers,

756
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 4: they had the camera guy. I mean, they had the director.

757
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 4: I mean they were all there, each single person getting

758
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: their cue what to do when because that was lights out.

759
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 4: Rock hadn't know where to stand. The camera was head on.

760
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: I mean that was just beautiful, beautiful.

761
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: Again, its interesting to look inside, you know, production and

762
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 3: what they do.

763
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: And in Gorilla. I love seeing in Gorilla. Now it

764
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: does take away.

765
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 3: The magic. It does take away for the fans, you know,

766
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 3: to see the babyface come through the curtain and hug

767
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: the heel and say how was it wasn't good? Did

768
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 3: you like it? Blah blah blah. That takes away the

769
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: magic to me. But I'm in the business, so I

770
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: know all that already, and I love it. I love

771
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: seeing that kind of stuff. But again the main focus

772
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 3: of this documentary was is Cody going to get his shot?

773
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: And ultimately he got it. And I enjoyed both matches

774
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: I watched it. I enjoyed both matches. I enjoyed the

775
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: Rock being there. I enjoyed all the cameos in Night

776
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 3: two's main event. And a lot of people were on

777
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: the fence. Some liked it and some said, oh my god,

778
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 3: what is going on? There's too many people coming, Why

779
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: is John Cener running down the ramp?

780
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: Why is the undertaker in the ring?

781
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: I was digging it.

782
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: I liked it, you know.

783
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. To me, it was just like, oh my god,

784
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: he's here, Oh my god, he's here. I thought it

785
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 3: was cool. A lot of people shit on it. I

786
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: did not. I liked it so overall. I loved the stock.

787
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: I loved that Cody did get to technically finish his story.

788
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 3: I feel like he deserved it. You know, he came

789
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 3: back from being an aaw and I'm sure he was

790
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: promised a lot of different things, and if he didn't

791
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: get this, I just felt like it would have been

792
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: a huge mistake. When they're apart, and I do feel

793
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 3: like he is a very.

794
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: He's the company face.

795
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: I feel like he's a good representation of what a

796
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: champion should be.

797
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: And look at him.

798
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: He's a workhorse.

799
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: I've said that about several men.

800
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: I look at Cody and I see a star, and

801
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: I see someone who could be the next John Cena

802
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: or the next Rock in the you know, in Hollywood

803
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 3: down the line. But you know he's got a wrestling

804
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: in his blood. His dad is Dusty, for God's sakes.

805
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 3: You know, his brother's Dustin. They are a wrestling family.

806
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: I feel he's doing a great job. I know you

807
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: don't like him, but you got to admire the work ethic.

808
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: He get knocked out of him, he doesn't complain, He

809
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: comes back. He does what he's told, and he does

810
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: it a way that you know, you could look at

811
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: him and you could say.

812
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: What a gentleman, because that's what he is.

813
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 3: He's a gentleman, you know, And and he's just he

814
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: has an element of class about him, just the way

815
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: he handles himself and the way that he just I

816
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: don't know, I just feel like he is the right

817
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: man at at this time to represent the ww with

818
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: all the changes that they're going through, I feel like

819
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: they need somebody positive to be their representation, and I

820
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: just feel like Cody is the man to do so.

821
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 4: And that is my stance on and I'm glad The

822
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 4: Rock also felt the same way, and you know, decide and.

823
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 3: He changed everything.

824
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 4: Now. I like Cody in the same way that you

825
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 4: just described. I'm just saying as if I was a fan

826
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 4: growing up in this era, I wouldn't like him in

827
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 4: the same way that there was a ton of fans

828
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 4: that did not like Hulk Hogan in my era growing up,

829
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 4: they did not like the Train, Set your prayers, eat

830
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 4: your vitamins in the same way there was.

831
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it because I'm a heel kind of girl.

832
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 3: I tend to like the heels more than the babyfaces.

833
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: But I'm looking at it through a business perspective and

834
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: again and I'm looking at it as talent, right right

835
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: guy for the Yeah, yes, But I'm also looking at

836
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: it as a human being and as a person who

837
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: is you know, leaving one company to come here and

838
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 3: giving his all.

839
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: And it's just like a normal job.

840
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 3: You work hard, your promise things if you're promise to

841
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: raise and then they go, you know what, can't afford

842
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 3: to give you that extra dollar fifty and out you're deflated,

843
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 3: and it's like, shit, I was I was really counting

844
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 3: on that raise. Here Cody is told time and time again,

845
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 3: you're gonna be champed. We're gonna do this and then

846
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: WrestleMania come yeah, we're not going to do that, And

847
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: it's like, are you kidding me? You know what I mean?

848
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: As talent, That is the worst thing you can hear

849
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: when you've done everything right now.

850
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 2: If you're a dickhead and you're fighting with.

851
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 3: You know, people backstage, and you're fighting with management and

852
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 3: you're not.

853
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 2: Good with the boss.

854
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: I get being pulled. But this guy's doing no wrong

855
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 3: here that I know of. I've never heard anything negative

856
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 3: about him as a worker, you know what I mean,

857
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: as talent. So it's shitty to pull something like this

858
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 3: at the last minute. It's just it's not a good look.

859
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

860
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: And and Rock is coming off as the savior in

861
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: this documentary. He just saved everything.

862
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 3: So and how much truth is there to that way,

863
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 3: I will never know. But was it entertaining television? Yes

864
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: it was.

865
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 4: There's one we really haven't mentioned. It's this guy.

866
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: I love him.

867
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 4: He came off excellent in the excellent.

868
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 3: He was kind of under the radar in this whole time. Yeah,

869
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: it was like, you know, I'm not gonna say too much.

870
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: And I mean maybe he said more and it went

871
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: to the coming room floor. I don't know, but yeah,

872
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: he came off like a team player as well. It's

873
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: like I'll do whatever. You know, it doesn't bother me

874
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: either way. He wasn't going over either, you know, with

875
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 3: he knows he's not going over with Cody. So he's

876
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 3: just like it's it's okay. And maybe he knew like

877
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: he was taking some time off coming up, and you know,

878
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 3: I'll just do what's right for the company. Again, another gentleman,

879
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 3: another team player in this good stuff. I'm not saying

880
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 3: the Rock is like, you know, the devil or anything.

881
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: I'm just curious. I like, I'm a fan of his

882
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: character and I'm loved the heel Rock. I loved when

883
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 3: he turned and was just healing everybody. I love the heels.

884
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 3: I always have. I've always gravitated to the heels worse

885
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 3: than the babyfaces. I'm looking at it business wise as

886
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: I'm a performer and i am under WWE contract and

887
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 3: this is what I'm promised and then I don't get

888
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: that that's the way I'm perceiving this hour of television, right,

889
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 3: I'm not perceiving it as just like a fan watching.

890
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 3: Oh I wish the Babyface would go over. No, I'm

891
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: looking at it through business eyes, and it's bad business

892
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 3: if they would have taken that spot away from Cody.

893
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,959
Speaker 3: And that's what I believe. So I'm glad it worked

894
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: out the way it did. I really am.

895
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 2: And I did enjoy WrestleMania as a whole.

896
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 4: I completely agree with you.

897
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 3: And maybe I'm martial because of ECW's strong appearance in

898
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: this because it was Philadelphia.

899
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 4: But to say you can thank the Rock for that,

900
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 4: the Rock said he was the one that was behind

901
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 4: ECW's inclusion all because of the Rock.

902
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 3: Wow.

903
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 4: Rock said ECW needs to be included in this, and

904
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 4: that is a Dwayne Johnson directive. Please make sure that

905
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 4: Paul Hayman, the wise man of the Bloodline at that time,

906
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 4: he needs to be in the Hall of Fame. That

907
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 4: is a direct on the board. You know, the internal

908
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 4: memo is that what it is?

909
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: You need to stop putting words into the Rocks mouth

910
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 3: because that's the Rock did not say that, But I'm

911
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: a fan. Nonetheless, I'm a fan of The Rock. I'm

912
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: a fan of Cody. I think he's doing a hell

913
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 3: of a job. I'm glad it played the way it did.

914
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 3: And I feel like, if you have not watched this

915
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: dock you should give it a LOOKXI because it was

916
00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: interesting just to see the backstage engineering and however everything goes.

917
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 3: I really dig that about these docs, that they're taking you,

918
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 3: you know, into their world beyond the mat So it's

919
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 3: interesting to see.

920
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I told Paul Hayman, have her pulled

921
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 4: down her tights and she'll have franchise written on her

922
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 4: rear end.

923
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 3: Well, guess what, I appreciate that because that was a.

924
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: Turning point in my career. So thank you Rock for

925
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: suggesting that.

926
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 3: I'm telling you this, The Rock takes credit for everything,

927
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: and you're gonna see all these memes.

928
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 4: And then I told him throw down the belt and

929
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 4: say it's now the Extreme Championship Wrestling title.

930
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: Oh there you go.

931
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's done it all ladies and gentlemen, Oh my god.

932
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 3: That was exhausting. Well that's my take. I don't know

933
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 3: what you guys feel, but that's the way we saw it.

934
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: So did you like it. Did you hate it?

935
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 2: What did you think about WrestleMania forty?

936
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 3: Are you a Cody fan?

937
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 4: Comment below Cody cry Baby?

938
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? Which one are you?

939
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 2: Hashtag we want Cody or hashtag Cody cry Baby.

940
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 4: And if you want to check this out, it's called

941
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,479
Speaker 4: WrestleMania Behind the Curtain. It's on YouTube, fully the whole

942
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 4: thing on YouTube. If you have YouTube Premium you can

943
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 4: watch it commercial free. Nice.

944
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good. I enjoyed it all right. Well,

945
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: we got a lot coming up this week on YouTube

946
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: as well.

947
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: We are recording this week. We have several different ideas

948
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 3: that we're going to be dropping throughout the week. So

949
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 3: if you're not subscribed, to go over to my YouTube

950
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: channel it is ECW diva Francine exclamation point and go subscribe.

951
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 3: Fresh content on the way. Can't wait to do there.

952
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: It's gonna be funny stuff. We're thinking outside the box

953
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 3: a little bit, and we're gonna film some things because

954
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: it's been just heavy wrestling, which is fine because that's

955
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 3: what I do.

956
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 2: But I want you guys to see the other.

957
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 3: Side of the chad Ster and I and we could

958
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: be silly sometimes, So head on over and we're gonna

959
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 3: drop some videos this week and it's going to be

960
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 3: a good time.

961
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: And subscribe. And if you're not subscribed for the podcast feed,

962
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 2: iHeart Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcast, either follow

963
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 2: us or subscribe. It is eyes up here with Francine.

964
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: You have to put the with Francine in and you know,

965
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: let's get these numbers up because we're producing really good

966
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: content in my opinion, and I'll put on listen.

967
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take credit for this whole show. I'm gonna

968
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: put myself ever like Rock did, and I am the

969
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 3: podcasting world. I'm taking it by storm and we are

970
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 3: blowing up, ladies, and so continue to fight the good

971
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: fight and help the cause and just subscribe when I

972
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,919
Speaker 3: tell you too. Thank you very much.

973
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 4: That's right.

974
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

975
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 2: Oh, and also.

976
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 3: This weekend, I'm gonna plug it really quick. Eighties excuse me, eighties,

977
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 3: good lord. Nineties Wrestling Con is an event that I

978
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 3: will be at on a Saturday and Sunday and it

979
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 3: is at the a C X one Studios at the

980
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 3: Pier at Caesars on the Boardwalk in Atlantic City, one

981
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: Atlantic Ocean, Atlantic City, New Jersey zero eight for a one.

982
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 3: I will be there Saturday from eleven to four and

983
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 3: Sunday from nine to three. I think something like that.

984
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: I know started going. Star Time is eleven on Saturday,

985
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: Star Time is nine on Sunday. I'd appreciate if you're

986
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 3: in the area, come down and see us. A bunch

987
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 3: of ECW legends will be there and it's going to

988
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 3: be a good time. I can't wait to go.

989
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 2: So that is this weekend coming up, Nineties Wrestling Con

990
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: be there, Yes, yes, what do you got going on?

991
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 2: You have anything, Bruin.

992
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 4: I will be on the what is the name of

993
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 4: it is? The Around the Ballpark podcast? Around the Ballpark

994
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 4: podcast coming up? I think it drops around the fourteenth,

995
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 4: a baseball podcast. Looking forward to being on there. Going

996
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 4: to be talking about the Mets, but also talking about

997
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 4: my dad's experience when he was a veteran of the

998
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 4: game at midfield. So very happy. I'd love to talk

999
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 4: about that. That was one of the greatest experiences that

1000
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 4: I've ever had in a baseball stadium.

1001
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: So awesome.

1002
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: Around the ballpark, Yeah, and put us over on that.

1003
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 4: It's all, Oh, it's all it's wrestling. It's going to

1004
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 4: be baseball. But yeah, I talk about my dad as well,

1005
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 4: when he was honored by the New York Mets.

1006
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: Nice.

1007
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 3: Okay, well, if you are in a hot climate, please

1008
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: stay cool. And that's all we got for today. So

1009
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 3: I hope you were staying safe. I hope you're staying healthy,

1010
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 3: and most of all, I hope you're staying extreme