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Speaker 1: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear that both the next time Job the Cook,

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Speaker 2: Dumpy and Brett Bears.

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Speaker 4: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved

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Speaker 4: bullshit artists.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Ennick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Well, if you thought Ken Flow is insensitive to Clay

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Speaker 5: Guida when they fought, how about him going to South

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Speaker 5: Florida When I am in Las Vegas. Ken Flow is

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Speaker 5: in Florida. I am in quarantined in Vegas. Happy New

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Speaker 5: Year too, y Sunday, January tenth. It is twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 5: That figures to be a good thing. It's episode two,

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Speaker 5: Ay three of the Antic and Florian Podcast. Can Flow

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Speaker 5: at a location that we cannot reveal, but it's good

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Speaker 5: to see him. My man, few technical difficulties, you're still

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Speaker 5: smiling though.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, dude.

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Speaker 2: First of all, we can't get this right, kid, I mean,

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Speaker 2: we can't even be in the same state, or like

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Speaker 2: two magnets that come together, they can't go together. It's

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Speaker 2: just what's going on.

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Speaker 5: And there is this avalanche of fans support, it seems

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Speaker 5: for Kenny Florey, and I think oftentimes around the Connor fights,

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Speaker 5: because of course you called his UFC debut, and I

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Speaker 5: got all these people messaging me like when are we

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Speaker 5: going to get Ken Flow back next to you on

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Speaker 5: your right? And I don't know, okay, but you could

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Speaker 5: be sure that no one will be happier than me

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Speaker 5: when I look to my right on fight night and

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Speaker 5: Ken Flow is there. Looks like we might have some

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Speaker 5: fans in the building. Can Flow by the way, have

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Speaker 5: you heard that?

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Speaker 2: I know, that's great.

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Speaker 6: That is great news.

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Speaker 2: You know, obviously, you know it's been a while since

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Speaker 2: I've called a fight, but the energy is just completely

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Speaker 2: different when you have a crowd there. So that is

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Speaker 2: awesome news for you, my man, and for the UFC

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Speaker 2: and for the fighters as well. It's just a whole

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Speaker 5: I was just downstairs with a few fighters, the Saints fans,

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Speaker 5: Dustin Poorrier and Daniel Corny and Matt Schanell watching New

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Speaker 5: there was a little bit of talk about that, and

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Speaker 5: I think most of the athletes would love to have

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Speaker 5: some semblance of a crowd. Oftentimes, we as broadcasters get

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Speaker 5: asked if we are gonna be happy to have the

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Speaker 5: that really enjoys watching these live events without whoa and

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Speaker 5: without crowd noise, and they have that ability to listen

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Speaker 5: to that corner audio which we try to let bleed

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Speaker 5: in as much as humanly possible. But for me, I

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Speaker 5: don't know how you feel. Like I am on record

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Speaker 5: a climactic moment, heaven forbid, a UFC championship, and there's

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Speaker 5: I just hope. I know that these are some hefty

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Speaker 5: I hope you all make some fucking noise, you know,

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Speaker 5: and hopefully they will get the memo. But that's very

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Speaker 5: we're going to get to Ray long go shortly. He

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Speaker 5: not on sabbatical. It was not a scheduled bye week.

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Speaker 5: He actually got COVID nineteen, So I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 5: catching up to with Ray. He says he's a nine

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Speaker 5: Ken Fill. One other bit of news that broke before

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Speaker 5: So UFC Fight Night Holloway versus cater is going to

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Speaker 5: be on the American Broadcasting Company? Is that ABC? Is

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Speaker 5: that what it is? Cody, American Broadcasting Company. So I

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Speaker 2: That's huge, man. This is obviously going to be a

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Speaker 2: And it's exciting man. Again, anytime the UFC and the

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Speaker 5: Obviously, twenty twenty was huge, I think figuratively for the

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Speaker 5: So give you a little update on the quarantine here.

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Speaker 5: I have passed my first COVID test. Every time you

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Speaker 5: get that text from Zach Candido that says you're negative,

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Speaker 5: of Nasal, Feller, Buffer, Cormier. Everybody's here, we're all negative,

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Speaker 5: and then three big sh and going a little bit early.

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Speaker 5: I was not scheduled for this first show initially, but

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Speaker 5: and I'm excited to get there. So Dan Hooker's going

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Speaker 5: But no easy fights, man, Dan Hooker is no fucking

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Speaker 2: This is the kind of introduction that you want to have.

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Speaker 2: You want to basically establish yourself as an exciting fighter,

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Speaker 5: And we'll get to some loonggo in thirty seconds. But ultimately,

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Speaker 5: Paul Felders lost a couple straight on paper, just needs

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Speaker 5: in about thirteen days. But Ray longh is on the men.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully he got a fucking haircut. Let's get to the

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Speaker 5: Ray Longo minute.

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Speaker 7: He is now time for the Ray Longo minute on

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Speaker 7: this fucking shows, the Ray Longo Minute, the John Nick

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Speaker 5: Man does the listenership and the viewership take a hit

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Speaker 5: been this excited to see you, man. I know you

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Speaker 5: have been ill, and a lot of us were concerned

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Speaker 5: about you. We know you're you're blowing out the lungs

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Speaker 5: and working out hard every day. But uh, COVID nineteen

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Speaker 3: First of all, it was not just a hair that

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Speaker 6: You know, I had to tell you.

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Speaker 6: It was like you're off that much. You know. It

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Speaker 3: Do extra rounds two days after I tested positive, and

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Speaker 6: I had to get off the fucking show.

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Speaker 3: Like Dean Thomas is going, dude, you profusely sweat your forehead.

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Speaker 6: You're dripping sweat. And I was like, i gotta go.

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Speaker 6: Right in the middle of the show, I'm going, I'm

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Speaker 6: You know, so whatever, I was.

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Speaker 5: Just in the parking lot with Dean Thomas and Matt Sarah.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to tell you what we were doing, necessarily,

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Speaker 5: just run on a few laps, right. But I heard

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Speaker 5: he said that TJ. DeSantis was kind of bullying you

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I'm forever grateful to him for that too. Man.

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Speaker 3: And again those shows to me, John, those little shows

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Speaker 3: Now we deal with you know, having kids and who's

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Speaker 6: Today I'm saying, is this is a year's growth right here.

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Speaker 6: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 5: That's a guy Sarah long ago?

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Speaker 3: mean he does some really basic, great shit man. And uh,

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00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,360
Speaker 3: I think it's just gonna be too much for Holloway.

440
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 3: He's gonna he's and he could throw it. Doesn't look

441
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,159
Speaker 3: like he's getting quiet either. So who who's favored in

442
00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 3: that fight?

443
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 5: Very interesting? Max Holloway is minus one fifty five as

444
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 5: the favorite. Calvin Cator is plus one thirty five as

445
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,399
Speaker 5: the underdog. We pulled our Anakin Floran podcast listeners today

446
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 5: and I think it was about four thousand votes and

447
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,640
Speaker 5: seventy six percent like Max Holloway. I was just downstairs

448
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 5: with Dustin Poorier and he was raving about Calvin Cator's

449
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 5: hands in his boxing, and uh, we'll see, man. I

450
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 5: think it's a tough matchup for him.

451
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 6: I really do.

452
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 5: I think Max deserves the distinction as the favorite. Well. Also,

453
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 5: we'll obviously get ken Flow selection later in the show.

454
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 5: But you like Calvin Cater to get it done? How

455
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 5: about that? That'd be something man.

456
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 6: I think Kata gets that done in a similar fashion.

457
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 3: I think he's almost a small and I'm I'm I'm

458
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 3: saying this loosely, but it's gonna be like the uh

459
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 3: like the poorier fight. Like he's gonna be He's he's

460
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 3: gonna it's a game fight. But I think the other

461
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 3: guy's hits too hard, too often, too accurate. And I

462
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 3: think that's the difference. Uh, you know, the other guy's

463
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 3: gonna have to use like the takedowns and the kicks.

464
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna want to trade with this guy.

465
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 3: I think it's like like Coy. It was a great fight.

466
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 3: Poria was just too a little stronger, you know, he

467
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 3: moved up and wait and uh, I think, Yeah, I

468
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 3: don't know.

469
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Speaker 6: I I like Kate.

470
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 3: I like I like everything about him. I like the

471
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 3: way he trains. You know what I hear he trains.

472
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Speaker 6: I love it. We talked to him one time. His

473
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 6: head's in the right spot. Uh man, He's just I

474
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Speaker 6: don't know. I don't think he's looked bad yet.

475
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Speaker 3: I mean a five round fight to say he's gonna

476
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 3: beat Zabat, you know, I mean, he wasn't going anywhere

477
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:31,239
Speaker 3: in that fight.

478
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Speaker 6: He came on in the third.

479
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Speaker 3: I don't know if Zabat can hang on for two

480
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 3: more rounds against him, So I'm assuming this is a

481
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Speaker 3: five round fight, and I think that even that's gonna

482
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 3: favor Catar. I don't think he stops, and I think

483
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 3: his he's good. His hands are good, man, they're pretty

484
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 3: freaking good.

485
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 5: And his team's good. They're real strategists and they have

486
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 5: a lot of film with which to work on Max Holloway,

487
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 5: There's no doubt about it.

488
00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,239
Speaker 3: And they're on a roll, you know, great, he had

489
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 3: a big win.

490
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, these guys are going to be tough to stop.

491
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 5: I love it, and I know Kenny's just a beacon

492
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 5: of humility. But there was a time about ten years

493
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 5: ago when the Boston Globe and the Boston Herold was

494
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 5: doing stuff on Kenthal all the time. Channel five was

495
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 5: coming to his house, and Cater is on the cusp

496
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 5: of getting that treatment in a sports town, Kenny that

497
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 5: you know, is crowded as hell, you know, and it's

498
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 5: really hard to break through in Boston and get that

499
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 5: type of attention. And I kind of feel like Cater

500
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 5: if he beats a former champion, Max Holloway and puts

501
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 5: himself either in a championship setting or one win away.

502
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 5: You know, he could be a big star there.

503
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, I love I love Cat, but let's not

504
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 3: bring Kenny into what I mean Kenny's I mean, you know,

505
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 3: if he was having trouble, if he was having trouble

506
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 3: in Boston getting recognition or attention, and this guy's going

507
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: to be in deep shit with that. There's only one

508
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 3: pen flow, John, No, that's the true. I mean, the

509
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 3: only thing they got similar is to Kay in their

510
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 3: name right.

511
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 5: Right, Hey, for fifty bucks per pronounce Calvin's last name

512
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 5: correctly right now, cater, I am sending you that fifty

513
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 5: dollars because you said the guitar last time. You know,

514
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 5: Ian Parker's coming up, So we have plenty of mispronunciations

515
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 5: in our next segment, all right before we let you go.

516
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 5: And again, if you got anything on the way out,

517
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 5: certainly you got as much time as you need. But

518
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 5: Al Jamaine Sterling and pyodr Yan now have a date.

519
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 5: That date is March sixth UFC two to fifty nine,

520
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 5: presumably Las Vegas Championship Tripleheader. And I don't mean to

521
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 5: put you on the spot with this question, but it

522
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 5: appears as though, pyodr Yan has aligned with American Top Team,

523
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 5: and I'm just curious, like when that happens, is there

524
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 5: any conversation from the opposing team or trying to think about,

525
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 5: you know, tendencies or coaches that maybe Yan is working

526
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 5: with to try to get some insight as to maybe

527
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 5: what wrinkles he might be trying to bring to the table.

528
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 5: I don't know. I know it's kind of a loaded question,

529
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 5: but what do you make of that alignment? And have

530
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 5: you guys had any conversations about it?

531
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Speaker 6: Uh?

532
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we actually did have a conversation about I think

533
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: it's I think it's good, and I think it shows

534
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: that Pete's searching for something that he didn't stay with

535
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: his other team. And I love that aspect because you know,

536
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 3: I love you know, that whole concept. So I think

537
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 3: it shows that he's worried about something. Uh he thinks

538
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 3: he can find answers in Florida. I say he can't.

539
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 3: And uh, I love the matchup, and yet we did

540
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 3: talk about it. It's about all I'm gonna say now

541
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: on it. You know, obviously, sure I broke it down

542
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 3: a little more than that, but I think that's my

543
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: opinion he's he's searching for something, and I don't.

544
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Speaker 6: Know, you know, I don't know who do he fight

545
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 6: out of there? Pedro Muno? Pedro Muno's right, I don't

546
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 6: know if he fought anybody else out of there.

547
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 5: But uh, I don't recall. Maybe he thought, I mean,

548
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 5: I'm not the guy you go to for Rico.

549
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 6: I'm I'm assuming he wants to concentrate on his wrestling.

550
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 6: But you know, look, many buddy, did you child Joe's

551
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 6: match with that that stud wrestler.

552
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 5: I didn't see the whole thing, but he did have

553
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 5: an exhibition match and was super competitive obviously at time.

554
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: Something.

555
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 6: Man, if you know the time that he put into

556
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 6: that thing, it makes it even better, you know what

557
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 6: I mean? So I punky, man, he's weird.

558
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, the word on that was that anything

559
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,239
Speaker 3: less than it being tech fooled was a win, right,

560
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: And I scored What a beautiful takedown he scored in

561
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 3: the first year, four points.

562
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,719
Speaker 6: Man, he was that And then he choked the kid

563
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 6: out in about a minute when they did jiu jitsu.

564
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 6: So al, Joe's in the hand.

565
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 5: Oh hey, man, so lose me again or no?

566
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 6: No?

567
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 5: I guess I was just going to segue to the

568
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 5: betting line. And I know a lot of people see

569
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 5: that price on al Joe as an underdog as being

570
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 5: pretty juicy, Like, what's the most amount of money you've

571
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 5: ever put on a fight in your life? I mean,

572
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think about the biggest bet I've ever

573
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 5: placed on a game, not more than probably fifteen hundred

574
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 5: dollars on a singular game. I usually put fifty bucks

575
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 5: on a game as my average bet. I'm saying, I

576
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 5: just have heard from a lot of people who feel

577
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 5: like this is a very unique betting opportunity to get

578
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 5: aljo in this matchup at this price.

579
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

580
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 3: Now, the most I've ever bet is, I believe two thousand.

581
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever won above it.

582
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 6: I know it for a fact. I never want above that.

583
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 6: And that was maybe one or two times.

584
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 5: And that was Does your wife know that?

585
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 6: No?

586
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 5: But she she listens to the Anak and Florian podcast.

587
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 3: No, but she she just said she knows it now though,

588
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: So thanks for that job. But she's the gambler, not me.

589
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 3: She's the gambler. You can't, you know, you take her? Yeah, no,

590
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 3: she's she's got it in the veins. You can't get

591
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 3: her off for you can't get her off out of

592
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: Atlantic City when we go down there. So that for me,

593
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: even if somebody heard, because normally I bet one hundred

594
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 3: bucks two hundred bucks depending on how I feel, and

595
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 3: you know what, Like you know, sometimes I just want

596
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: to bet like two thousand because if I lose, I

597
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 3: want to feel what the pain.

598
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 6: To by fuck something up. It's really I'm weird. I

599
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 6: don't know.

600
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 5: Oh hey, uh, you don't even know. I don't even

601
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 5: know where to begin with that I have. I have

602
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 5: done a lot of silly things to pay for New

603
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 5: England championships over the years. No, I just see it

604
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 5: as a Pickham fight and that's as predictive as I'm

605
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 5: going to get on That fight can flow. But to me,

606
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 5: it's like I think it's a pick and fight. And

607
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 5: Yan is getting a lot more respect at least right

608
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 5: now from Vegas on that. But we'll see, you know,

609
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 5: they're trying to draw two way action and right now

610
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 5: the price is idling.

611
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 6: So un well, it's what I'm sorry, what would you go?

612
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 5: You know what, I'm literally gonna look it up right

613
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,239
Speaker 5: now so I can get a fresh number and uh,

614
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 5: and then we will get you out of here unless

615
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 5: you got something else. I'm going to best fight Odds

616
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 5: dot Com will give them a plug. It is my

617
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 5: one stop shopping for fight odds. You f C two

618
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 5: fifty nine, Pieldrion minus one thirty five Algol plus one fifteen.

619
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 5: So it's creep and so it's not as prosed as

620
00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 5: I thought.

621
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 6: That's that's a close fight. Yeah, that's a close pick.

622
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 5: I guarantee it after going San Jagan last time, guarante.

623
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 6: Uh listen Aljo al Joe is he's weird man. You

624
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 6: don't know what to expect from him, you know, Like, uh,

625
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 6: I had two.

626
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: Guys Sparring had for Volas spar and a couple of

627
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: weeks ago with somebody who hits like a mule who

628
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 3: spars with Al Joe and he's like, uh, do you

629
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: hit al Joe like that? He goes, No, I actually can't.

630
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 3: That's the problem. Like, he's not he's not stupid, you

631
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 3: know what I mean. He's gonna fight his fight unless

632
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 3: you can make him fight you a fight. And I

633
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: don't think that's an easy thing to do. I really don't,

634
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: not with him, and he's whacked wacky. Should'll come out

635
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: of nowhere. And if you slip or fall, or you

636
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: get into a little scramble and that guy latches onto

637
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: your neck, you will put you to sleep. Great squeeze

638
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: strength believes in it. Uh just good stuff, man, that's

639
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: the thing. You can't really make him mistake with him.

640
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 5: At this point, and certainly nowhere to run, nowhere to

641
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 5: hide in that little baby twenty five foot octagon.

642
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 6: Why my man?

643
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 5: Well, Uh, so great to have you back. Man. This

644
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 5: ship is just not the same without you.

645
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 6: Felt just not great.

646
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: Man.

647
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 6: I really miss you.

648
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: Guys you're saying, I want to say how much I

649
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: appreciate all he is now that I've been through a

650
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: little ship for the last two weeks.

651
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 6: That's all I would say.

652
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: We appreciatesting out man. I'm glad you're better.

653
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you very much.

654
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: Guys.

655
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 6: All right, I will see you next week. What are

656
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Speaker 6: we on back to normal?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be something there Monday. I got to get

658
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Speaker 5: to fight island first and figure out time zones and

659
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 5: things like that, but I will follow up with you

660
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Speaker 5: during the weekend. I don't know if we got to

661
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Speaker 5: bribe here to get a haircut, but if you're if

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Speaker 5: you're if you're gonna by next week.

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Speaker 3: Now it's going I don't know next week hopefully, I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure, but within two weeks it's gone.

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Speaker 5: Hey, we'll talk next week. Stuff.

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Speaker 6: There he is Ray, tell my and tell my best friend.

667
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Speaker 6: I said hello and goodbye.

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Speaker 5: I will I will pass on the see the extent

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Speaker 5: to which he listens to it. I'm gonna text him

670
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Speaker 5: as soon as we're off the air. Yeah, dude's fun.

671
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Speaker 5: He's a lot of things, but he's fun.

672
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Speaker 6: Oh no, No, he's no. He's never off John never

673
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Speaker 6: I can four hours a never off. He's on.

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Speaker 5: Thomas is a nice sort of juxtaposition, you know, because

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Speaker 5: he's just calm, cool and collected. Next year and saying

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Speaker 5: best friend, I love, I love Dean.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: He's say he saved me and I will always be

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Speaker 3: indebted to him for stepping up the right thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, guys, all right, brother, uh go get

681
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Speaker 5: some food. We'll talk to you next weekendzy, guys, all right,

682
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Speaker 5: The Ray long comment it every week here on the

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Speaker 5: Attic and Florian podcast. Yeah, so basically, Dean Thomas ken flow.

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Speaker 5: I was saying, like rays like dying, and it seemed

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Speaker 5: like our old friend t J sants, God love him,

686
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Speaker 5: was wanting the content, want right powered through? And Dean's like,

687
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Speaker 5: this man needs to stop broadcasting right now.

688
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Speaker 2: So Hey, I'm just saying I may have done one

689
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Speaker 2: or two podcasts on COVID. I'm just saying I powered through?

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Speaker 5: How about that? Yeah, our producer hasn't tasted for like

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Speaker 5: six weeks at this point. But somehow someway, I have

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Speaker 5: not had COVID nineteen yet. Perhaps I have. I don't

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Speaker 5: let's get to the duck.

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Speaker 1: It's the main event Challenge. Time is most.

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Speaker 5: Face? How do you everything possible to.

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Speaker 1: Win the Main Event Challenge? John Hannick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Cast oh, we got fights back in our lives. And

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Speaker 5: it's amazing to think what a true UFC off season

707
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Speaker 5: would do for this fan base in terms of the

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Speaker 5: enthusiasm for a return. Can you imagine, as we welcome

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Speaker 5: in the Ducky and Parker on social media, Eddian Parker, Mma, Ian,

710
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 5: can you imagine if the UFC shut down for two months,

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Speaker 5: you know, at the beginning of the NFL season, and

712
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 5: went dark in say August and September. Could you imagine

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Speaker 5: the appetite for that show on October first to be absurd.

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Speaker 4: I'd probably be skinnier at this point, but yeah, it

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Speaker 4: would be uh yeah, you know what. I gave Dana

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00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 4: White and the team a lot of credit. Look, it

717
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: was hard to really picture that this was gonna happen

718
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Speaker 4: the way he did. But you know, we lost some fights,

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Speaker 4: we got some incredible ones, and thank god.

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Speaker 5: I'm not talking about any of that. I'm not talking

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Speaker 5: about any of that though, I'm talking about we're scheduled

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Speaker 5: to do forty shows a year. I am just saying

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00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 5: that when I hear from fans now that because we

724
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Speaker 5: went three weeks around the holidays, usually maybe we take

725
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 5: two weeks off, but because we went three weeks off,

726
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 5: people feel like we haven't had a fight in forever,

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Speaker 5: Present Company included. So I'm asking you, if we were

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Speaker 5: too shut down for two months, sure, what kind of

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00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 5: appetite do you think there would be for that UFC return,

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Speaker 5: Because if three weeks is any indication that return pay

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Speaker 5: per view after a two month hiatus would do monumental

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Speaker 5: numbers in my opinion, That's all I was saying. Oh,

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Speaker 5: but you can credit the promotion all you want. They've

734
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Speaker 5: done a great job.

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Speaker 2: No, but I don't work for them. I don't give

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Speaker 2: a shit.

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Speaker 4: But you know, Iree, I agree with you. I think

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Speaker 4: the appetite is gonna be insane. I would think it'd

739
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Speaker 4: be funnier if they put on a really shitty card

740
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Speaker 4: and we'd really see what type of fans.

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Speaker 5: Probably doesn't even matter, Yeah, yeah, I just have like

742
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 5: me and Kenny in.

743
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Speaker 4: A blind jiu jitsu match on fight Pass and see

744
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 4: if the fans really want to watch it, you know,

745
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 5: All right, So we have five fights on the ABC

747
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Speaker 5: main card for UFC fight that Holloway versus Cater. Of course,

748
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Speaker 5: Team Annik, led by the Ducky and Parker is defending

749
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Speaker 5: a championship in the main event challenge. Punish, of course

750
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Speaker 5: to be determined, but let's get to it. Boys. First

751
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 5: fight will of course be the first UFC fight on

752
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Speaker 5: ABC in the Middleweight division, matchup of two undefeated fighters

753
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 5: here Ian, both coming off of Dana White's Contender Series

754
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 5: to produce wins in their UFC debuts. They are Douche

755
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Speaker 5: Go to Dorovich minus one fifty five and Poona Halle Soriano,

756
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Speaker 5: who is the underdog at plus one thirty five. IP

757
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Speaker 5: your first pick of twenty twenty one to Dorovich or

758
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Speaker 5: Soriano for you.

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Speaker 4: I'm really sorry, Cody, c about one second. I got

760
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Speaker 4: one dog that's barking. I don't want to ruin the

761
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Speaker 4: first pick of the year. Let me just he's doing Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm so, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 5: That's okay. We're off too a fantastic start.

764
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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 5: Well, hey, hey Ken Flow. While Ian is going to

766
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Speaker 5: solve the dog, the duck is chasing a dog right now.

767
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Speaker 5: On the Anacmploring podcast, So Poona Helle Soriano wrestling and

768
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 5: judo background. It's sort of a cool story Danny gave

769
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Speaker 5: was sort of the impetus for him. Going into the

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Speaker 5: gym at the stream COOTR. You know, he's doing wrestling

771
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Speaker 5: classes for a while, and it's like, man, he's got

772
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Speaker 5: some serious skills, a lot of power trains under Nate Pettitt,

773
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 5: Eric Nixic. He's plus one thirty five here. Tadovich obviously

774
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 5: has a decorated pro record, some pretty good experience. Which

775
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Speaker 5: way you going while Ian rejoins us and then we'll

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Speaker 5: get back to IP.

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Speaker 2: I think Soriano is a problem. I'm also I'm really

778
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Speaker 2: interested to see how his you know, grappling based style

779
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Speaker 2: matches up against Tadorovich. But you know, I do think

780
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Speaker 2: that Todorovich, for me, I've seen an excellent ability to

781
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Speaker 2: finish fights. Uh and you know, him being undefeated, him

782
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Speaker 2: him with the guy who who has shown a lot

783
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Speaker 2: of different ways to finish you, for me, I think

784
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Speaker 2: is going to be the difference. I have him as

785
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Speaker 2: the guy who's gonna win this one.

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Speaker 5: And Tadorovich won a regional title by knocking out Michelle

787
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Speaker 5: padda good strength of schedule outside the UFC, getting a

788
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 5: good test here in Puna to kick off the main

789
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 5: card on ABC. Who do you have?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I liked Dorovich here also I kind of fumbled that

792
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Speaker 4: one a little bit, not as bad as I uh.

793
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Speaker 2: I think Kenny kind of said it best with this.

794
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Speaker 4: I just think he's I think he's got more ways

795
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 4: to win, and I think the way he tries to

796
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 4: finish fights will be the difference here. And I think

797
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 4: the odds are a little wider than I expected. With

798
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Speaker 4: both guys, you know, as early in their UFC career

799
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Speaker 4: as they are, I thought it would be a little

800
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 4: bit closer.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: I don't think one has that much of a heavier

803
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Speaker 4: lean than the other. But I'm with Kenny on this pick,

804
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 4: all right.

805
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Speaker 5: Also, a middleway guy is one of the true breakout

806
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Speaker 5: stars of last year, Joaquin Buckley trying to keep it going.

807
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 5: He will do so as a minus two sixty favorite

808
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Speaker 5: here against Italy's Alessio da Kurico, who comes back at

809
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 5: plus two twenty. Ken flow, we will have you lead here, thought.

810
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 5: Buckley looked great in that encore performance against Jordan, Right,

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Speaker 5: how do he handicap this one for him against Italy's

812
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 5: Alessio da Kiriko Dakinko is.

813
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Speaker 2: A guy who is a good striker. Has do I

814
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Speaker 2: love the.

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Speaker 5: Way you say that name I'm stopping the whole show

816
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 5: right now, and you just say it again because Ken

817
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 5: Flow called. I think, Dakiries, you have to how fucking

818
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 5: good did he sound saying that name? Do it again?

819
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Speaker 2: Please, Dakko? Uh, you know, god Man Striker, you know.

820
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Speaker 2: I think he could post some problems for Buckley, especially

821
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: kind of in the first five to seven minutes. I

822
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Speaker 2: think Buckley needs.

823
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 6: To be careful.

824
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: But I do think that Buckley is learning on the job.

825
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: I thought he had a lot of I thought he

826
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: had an excellent assessment of his last fight where it

827
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: seemed like he was forcing the knockout. He was kind

828
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: of uh bringing the fight a little bit too fast,

829
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: too hard early on. Uh, and he seemed to recognize

830
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: that during the fight. So to me, this is a

831
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: fighter that is getting better.

832
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Speaker 6: Uh.

833
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: He's intelligent, he knows where he's strong and maybe where

834
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: he suffers a little bit as a fighter. But I

835
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: think Buckley just has too much damn power right now.

836
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: He's on a roll. He has a lot of momentum.

837
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: I see Buckley winning this fight, but I think the

838
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 2: Kiko is an interesting underdog bet as well, especially early on.

839
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Speaker 2: But I do like Buckley here.

840
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 5: Bid I and Parker Alessio Diktko plus two twenty. I'm

841
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 5: gonna have a hard time calling this fight now because

842
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be thinking about that Ken flow pronunciation. But

843
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 5: he has lost three straight, likely fighting for his job.

844
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Speaker 5: How do you handicap his chances here against Joaquin new

845
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 5: matsa Buckley a.

846
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 2: Lesser the key to go, Yeah, I don't I look

847
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: good striker. He really is a good striker.

848
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 4: He tends to get a little bit too hesitant, and

849
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 4: he comes more alive later in the fight. And I

850
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 4: think what Kenny said again, I can't believe it was

851
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 4: starting off the year kissing Kenny's ass already.

852
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: I guess I'm really trying to keep this job.

853
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 4: But you know, I think with Buckley against Jordan Wright,

854
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 4: we kind of saw him really throwing haymakers and not

855
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 4: sticking to what got.

856
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: Him that win against Impa. Up until that kick the technicality,

857
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: he was patient, he was really throwing volume. He was

858
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: being smartest thing out of the way.

859
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 4: I think he came into the fight with right feeling

860
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 4: like he had to really knock another guy out to

861
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 4: prove that wasn't a fluke, you know, And when he

862
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 4: was doing that he wasn't winning. He was in it,

863
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 4: but there was no separation yet he made the adjustments

864
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 4: look phenomenal, got to win. I think this is a

865
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 4: good matchup for him, building him slowly. You know, I

866
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 4: would have loved to see him fight James Krause for

867
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: all the obvious reasons. Clearly, for whatever reason, that's not happening.

868
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: I do like Buckley here. Do I think he gets

869
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Speaker 4: the knockout?

870
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Speaker 2: I really don't this time. I think the cunico is uh.

871
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: He's one of those guys that can take punches, but

872
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 4: I also think he's smartenough to not get.

873
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: Hit by the power shots. But I do like Buckley

874
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: for the win.

875
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 5: All right, It's all huge fights the rest of the way, folks.

876
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 5: This one a featured bout at welterweight and it features

877
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 5: the return of Argentina Santiago ponz Adibio modus two seventy

878
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 5: five against Lee Jing Leung, who is plus two thirty five.

879
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 5: So Ian you know this, but perhaps all of our

880
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 5: listeners don't. So Ponzitibio has been out a long time.

881
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 5: The knockout o' Neil Magni was a main event November

882
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 5: of twenty eighteen, so He still comes in here having

883
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 5: won seven in a row. No longer ranked though because

884
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 5: of the inactivity. He did have a fight with Robbie

885
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 5: Lawler book late twenty nineteen staph infection for Ponzanibio, so

886
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 5: that one went away. What do you think about this

887
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 5: matchup here as and Ebio tries to shake off the

888
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 5: rust against a very tough and durable lee jingling.

889
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 4: Up the last fight we saw Ponso Bibio, we saw

890
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 4: the best tons of Bibia we've ever seen against Neil Magny.

891
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 4: He looked like a guy that was going to fight

892
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 4: for a title and looked.

893
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: For like a guy who was going to be very

894
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: competitive there out for so long.

895
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: But what we're starting to see is I think people

896
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 4: are starting to kind of figure that out. You know,

897
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 4: it's not just the dominant cruise miracle anymore. I think

898
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 4: guys are learning how to train through these injuries and

899
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: not rush back, take their time, And I think this

900
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 4: is a good matchup for him.

901
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: You know, I don't. He's down here, so I've asked people.

902
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: His training has been.

903
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 4: Good, he looks good, he feels good. Confidence isn't anywhere,

904
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 4: So it's hard to really bet against a guy the

905
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 4: way he looked before, and if he's truly healthy now,

906
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 4: there's no reason to believe that his skills have just

907
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 4: gone away. I think on a betting standpoint, the odds

908
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 4: really sucked, though, you know, I was really hoping this

909
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: was going to be closer to a minus one eighty

910
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 4: five duty in activity. But I think Ponza Bibio with

911
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: that jab, I think his speed will be there. I

912
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 4: think the volume he throws, and I think Cardio is

913
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 4: gonna be really helpful for him. I'm gonna go with

914
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 4: Ponza Bibio. Here another Chalky play.

915
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 5: Sorry, Ponza Bibio. I mean it's just I love you

916
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 5: like a brother. I think if long Go's the star

917
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 5: of the show, you're the heart and soul of the show.

918
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 5: But I let the Ponza Bbo go the first time.

919
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 5: The second time, I just didn't have it within me

920
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 5: to let it go.

921
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: I was gonna call him the.

922
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 4: Ponds, but I didn't know how that would fly, you know,

923
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 4: between your mustache and Kenny's.

924
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 5: A so Longo kept calling Calvin cad or Calvin Katar,

925
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 5: and so I gave him an opportunity to win fifty

926
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 5: dollars if he could pronounce it right on the spot,

927
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 5: and he did it. I don't know if if I

928
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 5: offered you money, if you could pronounce it. Okay, First off,

929
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 5: Ponza Bibio, Ponza. Let me ask you a question? Right

930
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 5: to kick off the new year with Ponza Bibio.

931
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm not Ray's gotta get names right because he

932
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 4: may coach against guys like this. He's got to know

933
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 4: the fighters names. I just gotta you gotta know who

934
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 4: I'm talking about.

935
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 5: You're just here to entertain and inform. I get it.

936
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: Listen. I'm here to help people win money. I'm here

937
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: to I'm not sure in fairness, I don't know if

938
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 2: Ray would get Pontinivio right either.

939
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 5: So I right, No, that's well Kenny, that doesn't I

940
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 5: don't know. I think.

941
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: Kenny gets me. Kenny just gets me this year. I

942
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: don't know, he just gets me.

943
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

944
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 5: Santiago Lee Jingle The Leech Can Flow Humble by Neil

945
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 5: Magney his last time out. He had won three straight

946
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 5: and seven of eight going in, and was briefly ranked

947
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 5: I believe after that win over Elizio Zeleski dos Santos,

948
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 5: any value for you can't Flow on the leach against Ponzanibio.

949
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 5: Are you going with the Argentine?

950
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: You know, before I get into predictions, first of all,

951
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: I got to say this could have the makings of

952
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: an absolute war, so I'm curious to see what approach

953
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: Pontinibio has. But you know again, you know, like Ian said,

954
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: we haven't seen Pontinibo in there for a long time.

955
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: He could be a complete different fighter. He could also

956
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: show show some russ But my feeling is that we're

957
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: going to see a shopper Pontinibio. I think that Pontinivio

958
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: will be excited to be back and we'll put on

959
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: an excellent performance against a very tough Chinese fighter and

960
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: Lee Jingle Ung. But I like Pontinibio here. I think

961
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: he has more ways to win in this fight as well.

962
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 5: You know, it's sad. Ken Flow Santiago Ponzinibio is now

963
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 5: the mixed martial artist formerly known as Jen Chi Boa.

964
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 5: He has changed his nickname. He is no longer Genchi Boa.

965
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 5: Kenhelow taught me how to pronounce that in like twenty thirteen.

966
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 5: New nickname. You're ready for it, you guys ready, and

967
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 5: it is the Argentine Dagger or Argentine Dagger. I'm waiting

968
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 5: to hear which way because that working. I like Kenny

969
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 5: Genciboa is like nice guy, right.

970
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like he's good people. You know, It's like, oh,

971
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: he's a good person, Gentchiboa, he's a good person. But yeah,

972
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: that's obviously you know, no one's going to be intimidated by.

973
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: It's like Ken, no one's intimated by Ken was gonna

974
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: be intimidated by you know, you know, the good guy Potanimio.

975
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: I like, my god, can you imagine if Kenny's nickname

976
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: was the Dagger? That would be awesome. Kenny, you looked

977
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: like a dagger. You look like you would be the Dagger.

978
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 6: I like that one.

979
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: I would steal that. I thought it was gonna be

980
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: a lot worse. I'm actually impressed with that nickname. That's

981
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 2: not bad.

982
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 5: Chanceller should have been like the uh the Boston of Boston.

983
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, can you.

984
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 5: Imagine alright, cold events in the welterweight division. Carlos Condit

985
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 5: minus one sixty, Matt Brown plus one forty. We'll need

986
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 5: the round of the method of victory here, and we

987
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 5: will lead with mister Parker so prior to outpointing Court

988
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 5: McGee on Fight Island last October, Condit hadn't won a

989
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 5: main event or excuse me, a fight at all since

990
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 5: a main event win over Chiago Alvez that was May

991
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 5: of twenty fifteen in Guayanya, Brazil, So the pressure's off.

992
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 5: He was supposed to fight Matt Brown actually all the

993
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 5: way back in twenty thirteen. Brown though pulling out with

994
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 5: the back injury the week of the fight. Many of

995
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 5: our listeners probably remember that. So now about seven years later, IP,

996
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 5: it shall be done. Which way you going.

997
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: Better late than never?

998
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 4: I guess even with these two, right, I see some

999
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 4: value in Matt Brown here, I do you know. I

1000
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 4: think the Court and the Gee that we saw fight

1001
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 4: cond It was not the one that any of us

1002
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 4: were expecting. And the guy that throws the volume, that

1003
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 4: threatens with the wrestling the cardio instead he was once

1004
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: he got tagged at.

1005
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: The end of that first round. He just didn't come back.

1006
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 4: And I think someone and Matt Brown will embrace that

1007
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: violence and will take the fight to Carlos and a

1008
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 4: lot of guys that do pressure con that that's kind

1009
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 4: of when he doesn't, he's not able to turn into

1010
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 4: the natural born killer. So I'm actually surprised he's that

1011
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 4: much of a favorite. I thought this was gonna be

1012
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 4: like a minus one thirty five maybe type of situation.

1013
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 2: So this is where I think there's a nice little

1014
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: underdog play. I'm gonna go with the immortal one, Matt Brown. Violence.

1015
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 5: All right, let's go. How's he get it done? Round

1016
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 5: and method of victory? Sam rules New Year kid.

1017
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: Murder, round two. I'll say, TKO round two. I think

1018
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 4: he can do it against the cage.

1019
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 5: TKO round two. To our intern, Casey Williams, market down,

1020
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 5: We're going to track your underdog records this year in

1021
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one to see how you guys do when

1022
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 5: you actually have the fucking stones to bet on somebody

1023
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 5: who's plus money. Just kidding, all right, flow. Matt Brown

1024
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 5: contemplated retirement actually going into that Diego Sanchez fight in

1025
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 5: twenty seventeen, but he liked the way his body responded.

1026
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 5: Now he's three fights removed from that lost to Miguel

1027
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 5: Baieza rather violently back in May, and today is actually

1028
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 5: Matthew Mortal Brown's fortieth birthday. How do you think he

1029
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 5: matches up with Carlos Condit and Ken Flow, who wins

1030
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 5: the main event comain event live on ABC.

1031
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: Well, Listen, Biaza is an absolute beast. No shame losing

1032
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: to that guy at that point in his career. But

1033
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: you know, I got to agree with Ian. I think

1034
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 2: that Matt Brown does match up pretty well against Carlos Kannit.

1035
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: These are two legends of the game, two guys that

1036
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: have entertained people for a long time, and I think

1037
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: if Kana's able to get his offense flowing, if he's

1038
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: able to move forward, if he's able to get his

1039
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 2: footwork going, I think Kanda can win this fight. However,

1040
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: I do think that Ian is correct that if Matt

1041
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: Brown is able to pressure him and pressure him consistently,

1042
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 2: that Matt Brown can get a win. I don't see

1043
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 2: him finishing this fight, but I do think that Matt

1044
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: Brown can win this one by decision. So that's that's

1045
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: my pick, all right.

1046
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 5: The resident Kappers both like Matt Brown and the underdog

1047
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 5: spot this weekend. That brings us to the main event,

1048
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 5: first main event of twenty twenty one. It comes your way.

1049
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,479
Speaker 5: In the featherweight division, the former CHANP Max Holloway minus

1050
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 5: one to fifty five Calvin Cat plus one thirty five

1051
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 5: Overwhelming support at least from our listeners in our poll

1052
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 5: today for Max Holloway. Ray Longo likes Calvin Cator is

1053
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 5: the underdog can Flow Team Manic defending a title here

1054
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 5: in the main event challenge. So we will have you

1055
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 5: lead on the main event at least until you're in

1056
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 5: the overall lead. So with the slate white clean, Ken

1057
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 5: Flow's first main event selection of twenty twenty one, Calvin

1058
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 5: Cat Max Holloway, Who do you like?

1059
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: This is tremendous man event. I think that cater. If

1060
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 2: there's a guy who can finish this fight, in my opinion,

1061
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: it's Calvin Cator. I think he's the guy with the power.

1062
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: I think if he's able to pressure Max Holloway and

1063
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: find his range early, I think that will suit him

1064
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: very well. However, Max Holloway has a lot of tricks

1065
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: up his sleep man, and you know, this is a

1066
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: guy that really should be the champion. In my opinion,

1067
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: I thought that he certainly lost the first fight against Bolkanovski.

1068
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: I did think he won the second fight against Bolkonovsky.

1069
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: He made the right adjustments, he was moving his feet,

1070
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 2: he was using all of his weapons instead of just

1071
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: utilizing his boxing, and to me, it was a Max

1072
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 2: Holloway that looked better than ever. If that's the Max

1073
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: Holloway that shows up tomorrow night, as I expect to starry,

1074
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 2: not tomorrow night, but Saturday night, I expect Max Holloway

1075
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: to win this fight against Cater. As much as I

1076
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: love Cater, I think that Cater sometimes tends to rely

1077
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: a little bit too much on his box and against

1078
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 2: a super experienced fighter, a former champion like a Max Holloway,

1079
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's going to be enough. If he's

1080
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: able to catch him and follow up, I do think

1081
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 2: he could potentially finish Halloway. I do think Cater has

1082
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Speaker 2: excellent Poweri's big the division. However, I don't think Halloway

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Speaker 2: is going to give him too many of those chances,

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00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: so he has to be very careful trading like he

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00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: did against someone like a Dustin Poorrier for example. If

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Speaker 2: Cater is able to turn this fight into a similar

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Speaker 2: fight that Dustin Poorrier did, and I tell you what,

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00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 2: Cater will absolutely win this fight. However, I got to

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Speaker 2: assume that Halloway has learned his lesson from that fight.

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Speaker 2: And I think he wins by decision.

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Speaker 5: Max Holloway by decision the official pick to click for

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Speaker 5: Ken Fall on the main event. So Ian Cater didn't

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Speaker 5: get much consideration for Breakout Star or Fighter of the

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00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 5: Year in twenty twenty. It was a hotly contested year

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00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 5: and there was a lot of talent that emerged, but

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Speaker 5: there was also a recency bias. I think as well.

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Speaker 5: You know, his last fight was July sixteenth, the main

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00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 5: event went over Dan Egay, proceeded by a hellish knockout

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Speaker 5: with an elbow of Jeremy Stevens. It was essentially a

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Speaker 5: perfect year for him. How do you think he matches

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Speaker 5: up with Max Holloway and do you think he has

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Speaker 5: enough to get it done here in the role of

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Speaker 5: slight dog.

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Speaker 4: I'm with Kenny here in regards to Max Holloway. With

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00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 4: his last fight against the champ, I believe he won

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Speaker 4: that fight. I think he learned his lesson. I think

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Speaker 4: he came back made the adjustments. I think for Calvin Cator.

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Speaker 4: You know, Kenny really said it best. So I don't

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Speaker 4: want to be all redundant. He relies way too much

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Speaker 4: on his power and he doesn't get started until the

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Speaker 4: second end of the second I'm sorry, beginning middle of

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Speaker 4: the second round, when he knows he's fighting a longer fight.

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Speaker 4: That's not going to work here against a guy in

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Speaker 4: Holloway who pretty much has only been fighting five round

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Speaker 4: fights for the last twenty years, if you know, obviously

1116
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Speaker 4: it's not twenty years, but he's been fighting this forever.

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Speaker 4: And I think this is a big jump in competition

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Speaker 4: from what Cater's been used to. You know, I think

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Speaker 4: Holloway has way more tricks. I think we may see

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Speaker 4: some takedowns here.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think if Holloway just boxes with Cater, he gives

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Speaker 4: Cater an opportunity to knock him out. He's one of

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Speaker 4: the few guys in the with that true knockout power.

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Speaker 4: But we've also seen that Holloway's got quite a chin

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Speaker 4: on him, and I don't think Halloway is going to

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Speaker 4: just stand there and let Calvin box him up punch

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Speaker 4: him in the face.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm also very curious about Calvin's cardio. Although it's been good.

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Speaker 4: I gets a guy in Holloway that also pushes a

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Speaker 4: very fast piece.

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Speaker 2: You know, the guys that Calvin has bought are not necessarily.

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Speaker 4: Cardio guys, and Halloway is a decision machine, not by choice,

1135
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 4: just the way it is. So I think if Calvin

1136
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Speaker 4: were to win, it would be by a knockout, just

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Speaker 4: because he carries that power.

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Speaker 2: You know, I would have liked to have.

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Speaker 4: Seen one more fight before this, before a Max Holloway fight.

1140
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Speaker 4: I honestly was hoping Hollywy would have got the trilogy,

1141
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 4: even coming off that loss.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, probably the one.

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00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 4: Time I can honestly say a guy losing deserved the

1144
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 4: second rematch.

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Speaker 2: And this kind of reminds me of when Holloway was fighting.

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Speaker 4: Ortega, you know, where Tago was looked at as the

1147
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 4: big prospect, Halloway was kind of as the champ, like

1148
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 4: people weren't giving him the credit. I like Halloway here

1149
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 4: by decision as well. And I'm not trying to just

1150
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: pig back Kenny here.

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00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: He nailed it.

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Speaker 4: You know, when Holloway he also sees this mentally, I

1153
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 4: got to assume I get past this guy and I'm

1154
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 4: getting the title shot because I have to. There's just

1155
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 4: no reason, no matter how he wins. So Max Holloway,

1156
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 4: those odds just can't say no.

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Speaker 2: To that right now.

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Speaker 5: And I promise if Cater wins by a knockout, I

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Speaker 5: will not call it a Boston bomb, as I regrettably

1160
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1161
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Speaker 5: the moment and it was a fucking bombcad blow, you know.

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