Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2: Hi. Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started
Speaker 2: with this week's six shocking stories. So our first story
Speaker 2: today was user submitted. So our listener used to work
Speaker 2: for animal control in California. She had said that one
Speaker 2: of the officers that came in was really a quote Bach,
Speaker 2: but specified it was to other people, not to animals.
Speaker 2: So we definitely know people like that, right, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: So one day at work, another officer had brought in
Speaker 2: a dog. The dog had been in a situation where
Speaker 2: I guess its owner died and they died in the house.
Speaker 2: So the dog was eating the dead owner in the house. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And we talked about that last week, right, And this
Speaker 2: is what triggered this story in her mind, because we
Speaker 2: talked about last week a guy who died in the
Speaker 2: house and was eaten by his thirty cats that were
Speaker 2: living in the house. Yeah, so we know it's definitely
Speaker 2: common that this happened. So our listener said that she
Speaker 2: got the dog all situated after they brought the dog in,
Speaker 2: and then she know, you know, like left the room,
Speaker 2: came back later and found this officer, you know in
Speaker 2: question the quote bag sitting on the ground and the
Speaker 2: dog was licking her face all over the place. So
Speaker 2: she just sat there for a minute and watched it happen,
Speaker 2: just because this lady was so unpleasant. And then she
Speaker 2: got great joy in telling her that the dog was
Speaker 2: taken in because it was eating decomposing flesh only hours before.
Speaker 2: This so seriously disgusting. She said that the officer was horrified,
Speaker 2: and she said she still thinks about it to this
Speaker 2: day and laughs. It's pretty awesome story, actually. I mean,
Speaker 2: like eating a decomposing body can certainly expose the dog
Speaker 2: to some bacteria that it can definitely transfer to a person,
Speaker 2: especially because they have fur, and unless they gave that
Speaker 2: thing like a hardy bath, which I doubt they had
Speaker 2: yet at that point, you know, it would be absorbed
Speaker 2: in the fur around the mouth and everything. But it's no,
Speaker 2: it's probably no more of a risk than the dirty
Speaker 2: bacteria that live in a dog's mouth on a regular basis. Anyway,
Speaker 2: licking your face, it's kind of it's kind of a wash. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I do think that's particularly gross in general, Like I
Speaker 2: see people, you know, letting their dog like their face
Speaker 2: they share food with their dog. I'm like, all right, well,
Speaker 2: you're it's because we're it's because we're not dog people.
Speaker 2: Because my cat kisses me and likes me sometimes, and
Speaker 2: I don't care. So it's just like whatever whatever floats
Speaker 2: your boat, you know. Yeah, I can't get down with that,
Speaker 2: but maybe that's just me well, because I mean it
Speaker 2: is the same with the cat though, Like the cat
Speaker 2: cleans their asshole with their tongue and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden they're like licking you, right, So you don't
Speaker 2: know where their mouths go, and they certainly don't go
Speaker 2: in normal places that that humans do for the most part,
Speaker 2: I guess you would say, so disgusting. Are you onto
Speaker 2: the next one? This one's called a sharp mind. A
Speaker 2: forty four year old woman went to the hospital and
Speaker 2: said she was having seizures and right lower extremity weakness
Speaker 2: after she claimed she hit her head on a cabinet door. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so when she got there, they did an MRI and
Speaker 2: they found that she had a wound on her head
Speaker 2: that corresponded to the findings of the MRI, which was
Speaker 2: she had a little bit of an absess in her brain.
Speaker 2: So an absess is when there's some kind of infection
Speaker 2: that starts and it's this localized pocket a most of puss.
Speaker 2: That's what an abscess is. And if you look at
Speaker 2: that under the microscope, you'll see white blood cells that
Speaker 2: are trying to fight this bacterial infection that's going on.
Speaker 2: And they thought, okay, she went she went to the
Speaker 2: hotp so she had she did have a history of
Speaker 2: suicide attempts two years prior, but they thought, okay, this
Speaker 2: story sounds probable. She hit her head on a cabinet,
Speaker 2: she got this wound, it caused this abscess in her brain.
Speaker 2: Kind of next, right, So they gave her antibiotics and
Speaker 2: they also gave her anti convulsionts because she was having
Speaker 2: these seizures. And she went on her way and everything
Speaker 2: seemed to be fine, but they wanted to follow up
Speaker 2: MRI just to make sure. So she goes to get
Speaker 2: the next MRI. What was it about a month later
Speaker 2: after her first visit. Yeah, and I'm not so this
Speaker 2: is the part of the story that's a little bit.
Speaker 2: That's a little I guess. They just wanted to make
Speaker 2: sure that that diagnosis was completely accurate, so they wanted
Speaker 2: her to get a follow up MRI with contrast, so
Speaker 2: contrast makes it. It's when you get people have had
Speaker 2: this done before, they give you an IV, before you
Speaker 2: get a test done, and they put this contrast die
Speaker 2: within your body. In it, certain things light up that
Speaker 2: you wouldn't normally see on a standard MRI, so that's
Speaker 2: I guess they wanted to really see what was going on.
Speaker 2: And when they decided to do that, for some reason
Speaker 2: they said, hold off a second, we can't do another
Speaker 2: MRI because this woman has a foreign body inside of
Speaker 2: her brain. It looks like and a metallic actually, and
Speaker 2: for anyone that's ever gotten MRIs, do you know why
Speaker 2: they always ask you if you have any metal in
Speaker 2: your body when you get an MRI. No, I've never
Speaker 2: really been sure about that. So the M and MRI
Speaker 2: stands for magnetic because it's it's essentially a giant magnet.
Speaker 2: And there's been all of these documented injuries. I think
Speaker 2: we talked about one on mother No's death right when
Speaker 2: we first started the podcast Familiar Even there's injuries that
Speaker 2: can occur from the having any kind of magnetic things
Speaker 2: in a room. And in the case that we talked
Speaker 2: about months ago, it was a stretcher or a gurny
Speaker 2: got pulled into the MRI machine. I believe that was
Speaker 2: what the cause of it was. But my husband's a firefighter,
Speaker 2: you know, and he's even said that, like, yeah, you
Speaker 2: can't if you go in there with like your air
Speaker 2: pack on or something. You have to be careful. And
Speaker 2: anybody that does MRIs knows this. So they must have
Speaker 2: there must be a reason that they decided to look
Speaker 2: at this again, right, So instead they decided to do
Speaker 2: a CT scanner an X ray because they're better to
Speaker 2: do because they don't have magnets and they're not going
Speaker 2: to be an injury to the patient. And when they
Speaker 2: did the CT and the X ray, they saw, well,
Speaker 2: why don't you tell them what they saw in there?
Speaker 2: They found a sharp needle like object in her brain.
Speaker 2: So that was kind of weird and that probably wouldn't
Speaker 2: have happened from her hitting her head on the cabinet, right,
Speaker 2: So they decided to do surgery to figure out what
Speaker 2: this was and remove this object in her brain. And
Speaker 2: when they pulled it out, why don't you tell them
Speaker 2: what it was? A rusty needle. Yeah, it was a
Speaker 2: rusty sewing needle. So when they start interviewing her and
Speaker 2: figuring out the story, she finally admits that it was
Speaker 2: indeed a suicide attempt, that she was trying to stick
Speaker 2: this needle into her brain. Yeah, and she had a
Speaker 2: history of depression, She had multiple suicide attempts, so this
Speaker 2: wasn't out of the normal for her, I guess. And
Speaker 2: she had been admitted to a psychiatric unit for three weeks,
Speaker 2: and that's where she did admit that this was a
Speaker 2: suicide attempt. At first, I was thinking, you know, with
Speaker 2: her cabinet theory that before they identified it as a
Speaker 2: sewing needle, I'm like, is it that far fetched if
Speaker 2: she smacked her head on a cabinet, that there could
Speaker 2: have been the possibility there was a nail or something
Speaker 2: sticking out of it. But I guess that would be
Speaker 2: kind of a stretch. Honestly though, that would be more
Speaker 2: plausible than this, because if you have a blunt force
Speaker 2: against something, there's force that would push the now through,
Speaker 2: that could push the now through the skull. Right, But
Speaker 2: how do you on your own get a sewing needle
Speaker 2: and stick it through a bone or like a stone,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? I mean, I would I
Speaker 2: have no idea how this would even happen. So I
Speaker 2: think that the only plausible way that this happened is
Speaker 2: because when you're a fetus and you're developing, your skull
Speaker 2: bones are called fontanelles, and they're they have to be
Speaker 2: pliable because when you're a fetus and you give birth,
Speaker 2: if anyone's actually seen a fetus come out of a vagina,
Speaker 2: their head kind of collapses so it could fit through
Speaker 2: the birth canal, right, and that's anatomically designed to do that.
Speaker 2: And then as the fetus grows and becomes older as
Speaker 2: a child, those bones start to harden. So I don't
Speaker 2: know if you've ever heard with an infant that they
Speaker 2: have a soft spot. That's because those fontanelles had not
Speaker 2: yet fused yet, so you can really touch their brain
Speaker 2: through their skin. That's why you need to be careful
Speaker 2: with a newborn's head. But as time goes on over
Speaker 2: the years and children grow, it needs to be kind
Speaker 2: of pliable because the brain grows, you know, like your
Speaker 2: brain's the different size from when you came out until
Speaker 2: it is now. And once the adult brain is fully formed,
Speaker 2: then the skulls start to harden and then they become
Speaker 2: one solid bone. Or what we call the skull, right,
Speaker 2: But those little cracks where those bones met, they're called
Speaker 2: sutures on the skull. And it's like those zigzaggy lines
Speaker 2: you see if you look at a skull, there are
Speaker 2: kind of areas that could be weakness. So if she
Speaker 2: hit that right soft spot, that's how she could have
Speaker 2: got through. I mean then you couldn't even do that
Speaker 2: if you tried right like she just hit it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I couldn't even imagine the pain of doing
Speaker 2: something like that. So our next one is called super
Speaker 2: gross absorbency. A twenty seven year old female went to
Speaker 2: the doctor after having foul smelling discharge and a green
Speaker 2: for three weeks. So what would your first thought of
Speaker 2: that be, Well, she was having sex. If you're a
Speaker 2: sexually active person, you'd be like, oh shit, I got
Speaker 2: I would think I got trikamonas or something like it's
Speaker 2: sexually transmitted infection, because that gives off a green, foul
Speaker 2: smelling discharge. Right, Yeah, I mean I guess I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know what to think, but you're right, Like,
Speaker 2: I think everybody's first thought, which was this patient's first
Speaker 2: thought too, was that she had an STI or something
Speaker 2: going on from that. So she was convinced she had
Speaker 2: the STI, and she had asked to have a blood
Speaker 2: test to try to rule that out, thinking that would
Speaker 2: be an easy treatment for her. But of course, during
Speaker 2: normal questioning, I assumed they were like, when was your
Speaker 2: last period? And because she had an IUD inserted four
Speaker 2: years before, that made her period pretty irregular, and she
Speaker 2: couldn't remember off of the top of her head when
Speaker 2: her last period was. Yeah, I hate like, I'll go
Speaker 2: on about how bad I hate IUDs, and this is
Speaker 2: just like another reason because you just don't really know
Speaker 2: what's going on with your body. She was having her
Speaker 2: period that lasted forty eight to sixty days, so yeah,
Speaker 2: thank you that I won't get pregnant now. But who
Speaker 2: the fuck wants to have their period for forty eight
Speaker 2: to sixty days.
Speaker 1: Nop.
Speaker 2: That's just like a low grade bleeding. Horrible. It is
Speaker 2: horrible because even if you're not like necessarily gushing the
Speaker 2: entire time, the annoyance of having to wear pads tampons
Speaker 2: every single day for that long period of time, worrying
Speaker 2: about your clothes, your sheets, everything in between, is so obnoxious. Well,
Speaker 2: I also think that this particular incident that we're talking
Speaker 2: about right now is more likely to occur in that
Speaker 2: situation because you don't have the standard, Like it starts
Speaker 2: off kind of slow, it's heavy, and then it fades
Speaker 2: off and you're kind of paying attention to like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm using mini pads this day, I'm using tampons this day,
Speaker 2: I'm using mini pads when it weans off. So just
Speaker 2: the irregular schedule of it could make you not be
Speaker 2: paying attention to what's going on going on down there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So of course because of this, they wanted to do
Speaker 2: a pelvic exam, which I guess she didn't think they'd
Speaker 2: want to do. But why wouldn't they do that? And
Speaker 2: what did they find? They found this nasty ass embedded
Speaker 2: tampon like shoved all the way up inside her vagina,
Speaker 2: next to her cervix. It was gray, pink ball of
Speaker 2: cotton with a string coming off of it. So I
Speaker 2: guess my question is is that she said she was
Speaker 2: having the smell and the discharge for three weeks, So
Speaker 2: does that mean it was in there for three weeks
Speaker 2: or does that mean can that take a while to developed? No,
Speaker 2: I know it was in there for the three whole weeks.
Speaker 2: But could it have been in there for four months
Speaker 2: and then only started be having the irritation after three
Speaker 2: weeks or how would that work? Well, she probably she
Speaker 2: probably kind of semi realized the last time that she
Speaker 2: put it up there when they pulled it out, right,
Speaker 2: So that's how they got the timeline. But what happens
Speaker 2: is sometimes women will put up a tampon and not
Speaker 2: and forget to take it out for the late for
Speaker 2: the last time they were bleeding, and if they have
Speaker 2: sex afterwards, it could jam up there so hard that
Speaker 2: you would it just gets stuck up there all the
Speaker 2: way in the cervix. There's kind of this area around
Speaker 2: the cervix where there's like pockets where you could store,
Speaker 2: where you could store stuff. I guess, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: So that's what happened. She had sex and it jammed
Speaker 2: it up there. And I don't know for someone like
Speaker 2: me that's given vaginal birth three times, there's like no
Speaker 2: way this could happen to me because I could push
Speaker 2: out a tampon without even pulling it out at this point, right,
Speaker 2: you know, wait, sorry outside note, somebody asked, I think
Speaker 2: this week what our special skill was, So is that
Speaker 2: your special skill?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like if I really wanted to, you're someone I could
Speaker 2: just lift my leg and like shoot a tampon at
Speaker 2: them across the room. Wow, that's that's my special skill.
Speaker 2: But seriously, like I just think for me personally. I
Speaker 2: you see these tampons that they sell for teenagers that
Speaker 2: are like super light absorbency and they're the size of
Speaker 2: a pencil, and I'm like, yeah, that thing would fall
Speaker 2: out of me in two seconds. Right. So, I mean
Speaker 2: you you don't have that problem obviously, but like this
Speaker 2: is what happens after you have a bunch of kids
Speaker 2: come out of your badge. Right. So, but for this
Speaker 2: woman in particular, it's that's what happened. Like it got
Speaker 2: stuck up there and you wouldn't really be able to
Speaker 2: feel it, you know how. You know how when you
Speaker 2: wear that ring thing, the new ring, the Nuva ring,
Speaker 2: like when you put it up there, like after a while,
Speaker 2: you're kind of like not aware that it's up there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like I use that thing for eight years. You definitely
Speaker 2: don't feel it. Yeah. So it's just like things could
Speaker 2: be up there and you wouldn't you wouldn't feel it,
Speaker 2: And then what happens is, you know, the old blood
Speaker 2: is sitting there and it's just forming bacteria and having
Speaker 2: sex and having all the guys bacteria up there as well,
Speaker 2: and it just that's what happened, and it started being
Speaker 2: infectious and just that's what was causing the smell, was
Speaker 2: the bacteria growth on there. Yeah, I mean, how I'm
Speaker 2: so surprised when I hear stories like this that people
Speaker 2: don't get toxic shock syndrome from something like this, and
Speaker 2: so they did, Well, everybody doesn't get it, and it's
Speaker 2: actually kind of really a rare thing. But it's one
Speaker 2: of those things when you start first start learning how
Speaker 2: to use tampons with the little inserts in the box,
Speaker 2: that like scares the shit out of you, you know,
Speaker 2: and it could, like anybody could get toxic shock syndrome,
Speaker 2: not just not just women who are menstruating, but like anybody,
Speaker 2: because all it is is a bacteria staff or a
Speaker 2: strep bacteria that it's a certain bacteria that produces toxins
Speaker 2: which can cause all of the problems. Right, So when
Speaker 2: they found this tampon in her, they treated her for
Speaker 2: toxic shock syndrome just in case. They gave her antibiotics
Speaker 2: just to make sure she didn't develop it, but and
Speaker 2: she didn't. There was no this this happens a lot.
Speaker 2: This is actually not like that shocking. It's it's kind
Speaker 2: of frequent. I believe. When we posted this in the
Speaker 2: gross room, there's actually people who are nurses in the
Speaker 2: hospital who commented underneath that were just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: this happened to me once and we had to clear
Speaker 2: the whole entire wing of the er because it smelled
Speaker 2: so bad. But that pulled it out, will you interviewed
Speaker 2: Amy Locker, and she said that was the worst smell.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, smelled. Yeah, we've we've definitely heard that story before.
Speaker 2: So it's not it's not a complete surprise. And they
Speaker 2: tell you, you know, you have to be careful when you
Speaker 2: use tampons. They always tell you to use the lowest absorbency,
Speaker 2: Like I said, like I have to get tampons that
Speaker 2: are like there's circumference of a dildo to stay up.
Speaker 2: But this is total conversation with your child. Well it's well,
Speaker 2: I'm just being honest here, So yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's it. I think that it happens to some people
Speaker 2: sometimes and and I could see this because ever since
Speaker 2: I had like a like a while ago, now almost
Speaker 2: ten years ago, I had endometrial ablation and it caused
Speaker 2: my period to be very irregular after that, and so
Speaker 2: I didn't get it for some months and then and
Speaker 2: now especially like with the whole menopause thing, like I
Speaker 2: don't get it for months in a time. So when
Speaker 2: you're not regularly doing that, you could see how how
Speaker 2: you could forget to take it out because it's just
Speaker 2: like not on your mind. Oh, she was bleeding forty
Speaker 2: eight to sixty days, like, of course she just forgot,
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, I mean this is something I'm innocent mistake.
Speaker 2: It's an innocent mistake. I'm so paranoid about it. The
Speaker 2: thought of also like thinking of it and reaching up
Speaker 2: there and not being able to feel it is so
Speaker 2: scary too. Well, you'd be to feel it if you
Speaker 2: stuck your finger up there and reached in there, but
Speaker 2: you just you just can't. You know, Normally, when a
Speaker 2: tampon gets full, you could kind of feel it, but
Speaker 2: like this, well I can. It's a kind of question though,
Speaker 2: So when you're having sex, the guy seriously doesn't feel
Speaker 2: that there's something in there too, there's there's room up there, dude,
Speaker 2: Like a baby comes through that thing. It stretches. It's big,
Speaker 2: I know. But most of the time, most of the time,
Speaker 2: a penis is longer than a finger, so you would
Speaker 2: think they would feel it in some capacity. No, you're not.
Speaker 2: But like I'm trying to tell you, the cervix is
Speaker 2: at the top of the vagina, but then on the
Speaker 2: sides of the of the top of the vagina is
Speaker 2: where it could get stuck up in one of those
Speaker 2: little cul de sac things. It's like a little pocket it,
Speaker 2: So it would it would be like to the side, guy.
Speaker 2: I mean, you hear a guy saying that they feel
Speaker 2: they could sometimes feel I U. D. Strings when they're
Speaker 2: having sex with somebody. Some don't and some do. But
Speaker 2: that's like that's like a nylon string that's poking the
Speaker 2: tip of their penis, so of course they're gonna feel that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But like the tampon's like a pillow to the side,
Speaker 2: like it probably like this feels nice. Yeah, it's so gross,
Speaker 2: all right. The next one's called Crack. The case a
Speaker 2: forty four year old guy was found dead in his
Speaker 2: car parked under a bridge. So what would be normal
Speaker 2: protocol in this case, when you just find somebody did
Speaker 2: like this, the cops are called, Oh you would call it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you would call the medical examiner or the coroner and say,
Speaker 2: we have a suspicious death. And this isn't any case
Speaker 2: there's I mean, listen, like the guy could have pulled
Speaker 2: over because he was having a heart attack and died,
Speaker 2: but like it could be a total natural death. But
Speaker 2: you just can't ever assume that that that's autopsy worthy
Speaker 2: all the time. So typically the coroner would come to
Speaker 2: the scene. Well, yeah, they would come to the scene
Speaker 2: or they would bring the body to the morgue to
Speaker 2: do an autopsy. All right, So the coroner was not
Speaker 2: notified about in this case, which is kind of weird.
Speaker 2: And then the guy was embalmed three days later, so
Speaker 2: the coroner didn't find out about this for three weeks
Speaker 2: and then had to do an autopsy on an embombed body.
Speaker 2: What is the difference between that and a regular body.
Speaker 2: So I've done a couple autopsies on in bomb bodies
Speaker 2: and it just it kind of isn't the same. So
Speaker 2: when they do embalming, they have to inject formel the
Speaker 2: hyde kind of liquid into the body. That preserves the
Speaker 2: body so it no longer decomposes. So normally, let's say,
Speaker 2: let's just use my uncle as an example who just died.
Speaker 2: He died in the beginning of the week, and then
Speaker 2: we went to his funeral, what four or five days later,
Speaker 2: he had a viewing and he was out in room
Speaker 2: temperature of viewing, and he looked still to be alive. Right.
Speaker 2: The only way that you can do that is by
Speaker 2: embalming people, because if you just put a person four
Speaker 2: days later outside in room temperature, they would be green
Speaker 2: and bloated and decomposing and smell terrible. Right, So that's
Speaker 2: the point of doing the embalming. But the way to
Speaker 2: get the fluid into the body sometimes can cause trauma
Speaker 2: to the body just between getting it into the vascular system,
Speaker 2: and sometimes they use instruments to kind of stab the
Speaker 2: abdominal organs to just get more of that fluid into
Speaker 2: their So it gives what we would call artifact at autopsy,
Speaker 2: which means it looks like a person has all these
Speaker 2: stab wounds, but they're really just from the embalming, right.
Speaker 2: So that's one aspect of it, and the other aspect
Speaker 2: is the fluid itself. Gives an artificial appearance to the
Speaker 2: tissues too, because now they're being fixed or embalmed, and
Speaker 2: they don't look the same. They don't look like a
Speaker 2: fresh heart would look. They look almost cooked, which is
Speaker 2: kind of gross, but they just give the organs more
Speaker 2: of like a gray appearance. And it's possible to do
Speaker 2: an autopsy, and you certainly can see certain things, but
Speaker 2: when that fluid's flushing through the circular to system, it
Speaker 2: could push out something like a pulmonary embolism, which would
Speaker 2: be easy for us to see and determine it was
Speaker 2: a cause of a patient's death. So there's all these
Speaker 2: different things that it's not ideal, but we can do it.
Speaker 2: So obviously it's not recommended to do that before it's
Speaker 2: not recommended, but like let me tell you, for example,
Speaker 2: one case I did this guy that I did an
Speaker 2: autopsy on once. He was diving in another country and
Speaker 2: he was from here. He was on vacation. He was
Speaker 2: diving on another country and he died and they wanted
Speaker 2: to see if his cause of death was due to
Speaker 2: decompression sickness, which is something that could happen when you're
Speaker 2: diving if you're not doing things the proper way. So
Speaker 2: he was all the way in a foreign country, and
Speaker 2: they wanted the autopsy to be done in Philadelphia, so
Speaker 2: they had to embomb him before they sent him over
Speaker 2: to us. There was like no way around it. But yes,
Speaker 2: in a normal situation, would you would really just advise
Speaker 2: against that. Yeah, all right. So finally they're doing the autopsy,
Speaker 2: and then what do they see? So they take out
Speaker 2: his larynx, which is your your voice box. It's like
Speaker 2: if you put your hand around your throat and you
Speaker 2: feel in a male, you'll feel the thyroid cartilage, but
Speaker 2: you could feel those little like rings underneath. That's your
Speaker 2: larynx and that's where your voice box is. And that's
Speaker 2: also where the tube that goes to your lungs is.
Speaker 2: And then behind that is the tube that goes down
Speaker 2: to your stomach. So they take this out to examine it,
Speaker 2: and they found a raw egg embedded in his windpipe.
Speaker 2: I have I haven't any questions about that. At first,
Speaker 2: when I was reading it, I thought they meant like
Speaker 2: a hard boiled egg, and I'm like, that's kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, a hard style to like eat a hard
Speaker 2: boiled egg hole, But then I realized it was the
Speaker 2: raw eggs. So I'm like, in what circumstance would you
Speaker 2: ever just put a whole egg in your mouth? Well
Speaker 2: you wouldn't unless somebody put it in for you, Yeah,
Speaker 2: which is kind of like like all right, So like
Speaker 2: later they figured out he was doing, you know, some
Speaker 2: some drug trafficking. He was working with drugs, And even
Speaker 2: if this was a sign from a gang, it's just
Speaker 2: kind of really unusual. It is. It's kind of like
Speaker 2: skillful like that you can get that down with. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was cracked a little bit, so it is possible
Speaker 2: that it cracked while it was going down there. They
Speaker 2: I don't they They determined that his cause of death
Speaker 2: was from asphyxio. So that's what killed them, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you're saying means that they didn't they didn't see
Speaker 2: any other Like he didn't get shot, and then they
Speaker 2: stuck an egg down his throat, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like this was what killed them. Yeah, Like this guy
Speaker 2: was alive. They took an egg and stuffed it in
Speaker 2: his throat and then he died because of that. That
Speaker 2: also just seems like an absolutely horrific way to die.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, totally one really cool thing from a scientific
Speaker 2: perspective that was cool about this case, and the pictures
Speaker 2: are cool looking. Although they could tell that the egg
Speaker 2: was put in raw because there was still some like
Speaker 2: runny oak yolk and stuff, there were portions of the
Speaker 2: egg that appeared to be kind of cooked on the outside.
Speaker 2: And the reason for this is because if you think
Speaker 2: about it, when you put the embalming fluid inside of
Speaker 2: a body, it preserves the tissues and it hardens the tissues. Well,
Speaker 2: the same thing would happen with an egg because that's
Speaker 2: also animal material. So it kind of gave that cooked,
Speaker 2: embalmed appearance on the outside of the egg, which was
Speaker 2: really interesting. Wow, that really is no that I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's something I that's one of those things that you
Speaker 2: just say, guess, never think you would see on the job, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean that's the coolest part about doing autopsy because
Speaker 2: I think even if you talk to someone that's done
Speaker 2: thousands and they've been in the field for fifty years,
Speaker 2: they always can just be shocked walking in. It's just
Speaker 2: there's always something there's just always something that could be
Speaker 2: a potential, you know what I mean, And it's just
Speaker 2: it's really it makes that's what makes this job so interesting.
Speaker 2: You just I mean, we could talk about these stories
Speaker 2: for years. They just they you know, we'll never hear
Speaker 2: this again, but there'll be something else even crazier, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, This next one is you don't see this
Speaker 2: every day. So one of our grocery members worked at
Speaker 2: an inner city hospital in Minneapolis, Minnesota. She commutes to
Speaker 2: work on a bus that goes through some rough neighborhoods
Speaker 2: with some drug problems. So when she got off the
Speaker 2: bus one day, she started walking and spotted something really
Speaker 2: unusual sitting on the ground next to two hypodermic needles.
Speaker 2: So what did she think this was? Before confirming you later,
Speaker 2: So she saw these hypodermic needles filled with blood, which
Speaker 2: was kind of weird, on the ground and saw this
Speaker 2: thing and was like, what is that? And she went
Speaker 2: closer to it, and she was like, this looks like
Speaker 2: a mammified human finger. I don't know. I guess because
Speaker 2: you work at a hospital, you would notice that. My
Speaker 2: mind would immediately go to like that's a Halloween prop
Speaker 2: or something that fell. And maybe in a normal circumstance
Speaker 2: you would see that. But if you tall, if you
Speaker 2: saw two syringes that were filled with red blood, and
Speaker 2: you'd be like, Okay, what's happening here? Like this might
Speaker 2: be something a little bit more extra. Let me tell you,
Speaker 2: if I saw two needles filled with blood, how I'd
Speaker 2: be leaving that scene quicker than anything. There's no way
Speaker 2: I'd be hanging around to investigate. But she worked a
Speaker 2: thirteen hour shift at her job, didn't forget about this obviously,
Speaker 2: and then went back with gloves and picked it up
Speaker 2: to examine it some more and verified, in fact, it
Speaker 2: was a mummified human finger. How did it get there?
Speaker 2: She's better than me, because I think I would have
Speaker 2: just picked it up right then and there. Ew Like,
Speaker 2: I just don't I don't care, Like I just don't
Speaker 2: ski if I'll just like wash my hands afterwards. It's
Speaker 2: just I just saw, like my nephew was showing me
Speaker 2: a fox, a dead fox in his backyard the other day,
Speaker 2: and I just picked it up off the ground. I
Speaker 2: just don't care anyway. Yeah, she went back with gloves,
Speaker 2: and she took some really great pictures of this, by
Speaker 2: the way, and sure enough, it is a human finger,
Speaker 2: complete with all three bones, and it has mummified tissue
Speaker 2: around it, so it looks kind of like you would
Speaker 2: see a skeleton finger, but it has a little bit
Speaker 2: of soft tissue attached to it. And the only thing
Speaker 2: I could think is, especially because we live near an
Speaker 2: area like that that has a lot of drugs and
Speaker 2: a lot of just people living on the street in
Speaker 2: terrible conditions, I see a lot of videos and things
Speaker 2: of this of people who inject and then they all
Speaker 2: of a sudden they get gangreene somewhere like on their
Speaker 2: toes or on their fingers, And when you don't go
Speaker 2: to the hospital and take care of that, it could
Speaker 2: become infectious and can get really bad. But the body
Speaker 2: does something called auto amputate. And I'm suspecting that that's
Speaker 2: what happened here, That this person had this this finger
Speaker 2: that was gangrenous and it just stayed on there and
Speaker 2: it continued to mummify, and eventually it just fell off.
Speaker 2: And it so happened to be where people were shooting
Speaker 2: up over there. Yet did this happened with was that
Speaker 2: the story with the leg on the train tracks that
Speaker 2: you were saying, it was this same like auto imputation
Speaker 2: just slid right up. Now that's what remember, That was
Speaker 2: the only explanation that I had, and I believe somebody
Speaker 2: told us a few weeks later that there was like
Speaker 2: a motorcycle accident or something, and yeah, there was like
Speaker 2: something weird with it. But this happened to me. So
Speaker 2: one time, I when I was working in the hospital,
Speaker 2: I got a specimen from the er and it was
Speaker 2: a mummified toe, right mm hmm. And I was like,
Speaker 2: so think about this. If you have gangreen, you're going
Speaker 2: to go to the hospital and get surgery to get
Speaker 2: it cut off. So why was I getting it from
Speaker 2: the emergency room. So I so happened to run into
Speaker 2: somebody I knew down there the next day and I
Speaker 2: was like, Yo, what's up with the toe. She's like, dude,
Speaker 2: you don't even know. This guy came in. He had
Speaker 2: his foot wrapped up. It was all in gauze. I
Speaker 2: unwrapped a gauze and his toe just rolled out on
Speaker 2: the floor. And I was like, oh my god. So
Speaker 2: that would explain, like, you know, you don't even need surgery.
Speaker 2: It's a cheaper way to do stuff. But yeah, it
Speaker 2: just fell on the floor. They put it in a
Speaker 2: cup and sent it up to pathology, but yeah, just
Speaker 2: just put it in a cup. And pull it up. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: all right. Our last story was also submitted by a listener.
Speaker 2: So our listener and her nineteen year old daughter were
Speaker 2: driving along the nine to sixty nine freeway in Warren, Michigan.
Speaker 2: So as they approached this overpass. You know, I'm sure
Speaker 2: they're not really looking up, but all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: this naked guy drops from the overpass right in front
Speaker 2: of their car. They had to swerve to avoid hitting him. Thankfully,
Speaker 2: they weren't hurt in the process. Could you imagine that,
Speaker 2: just like I mean, one time we were driving to
Speaker 2: Cape Cod with momm and a frickin pit bull was
Speaker 2: in the highway for some reason, and that scared the
Speaker 2: shit out of me. I didn't want to hit the dog.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to, And then I didn't want to
Speaker 2: swerve either because I was You know, that's how these
Speaker 2: pile up horrible car accidents happened. And just imagine you're
Speaker 2: just chilling with your daughter, having a nice night, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, just like this, this naked human
Speaker 2: just falls from an overpass in front of you. Well,
Speaker 2: actually the worst part of this is it happened at
Speaker 2: like ten o'clock in the morning, so on a Saturday,
Speaker 2: so it's probably like, you know, I was picturing us
Speaker 2: when I was that age. You know, we would be
Speaker 2: just like all right, let's go to Duncan, let's go
Speaker 2: to Home Goods, and like just have a nice day,
Speaker 2: go to the craft store, get something to do. And
Speaker 2: then we're just starting off our day and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, this naked guy falls out of the sky.
Speaker 2: You're like, what the fuck is happening right now? Thank
Speaker 2: god they didn't get hurt. I was thinking about how
Speaker 2: scary that m to try to swerve to avoid missing
Speaker 2: a whole person that pitble that was on the highway.
Speaker 2: I remember this was when we went to Boston, so
Speaker 2: there was a really weird patch of highway on the
Speaker 2: way home where there was houses and there was just
Speaker 2: normal like chain link fences along the highway, and I
Speaker 2: definitely don't think it was high enough. So the dog
Speaker 2: was very easily able to clear the fence and then
Speaker 2: run on the highway. But well, I remember I had
Speaker 2: to pull over and breathe because I was in fight
Speaker 2: or flights so hard. I was like, how can I
Speaker 2: drive right now? Like it was so rattling. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: they said they both screamed at the top of their lungs. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I would be really messed up about this. The daughter
Speaker 2: called nine one one, and then she said that she
Speaker 2: didn't know if he had been hit or what had happened,
Speaker 2: but the news link that she sent with her email
Speaker 2: said that he had been hit by oncoming traffic going
Speaker 2: up to seventy miles an hour. That must have been horrible.
Speaker 2: That person that hit him, is he very well could
Speaker 2: have died from impact from that fall? Yeah, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I mean, think about how high that is.
Speaker 2: There's a clearance for trucks. I mean, it's pretty high
Speaker 2: to jump from that high up. And yeah, and if
Speaker 2: he survived it, he sure exactly like he got slammed.
Speaker 2: And I just can't even imagine. It's not fair to
Speaker 2: the innocent people that are just driving. Even though you
Speaker 2: know it's not your fault, you still don't want to
Speaker 2: be responsible for killing a person, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So let's say, I'm just curious if he jumped and
Speaker 2: died from the fall, but then within seconds got hit
Speaker 2: by a car, would they be able to tell which
Speaker 2: one killed him. I don't really, I don't know, because
Speaker 2: if he I would say probably not, because even if
Speaker 2: he fell and he died really as a result of that,
Speaker 2: let's say he had the traumatic brain injury, if he
Speaker 2: got hit two seconds later, just I don't really know
Speaker 2: how they would because you would still see the bleeding
Speaker 2: on the wounds, and how could you determine which one
Speaker 2: was from the fall versus getting hit at seventy miles
Speaker 2: an hour by multiple cars in a row and smeared
Speaker 2: across the highway. I'm just not sure unless they had
Speaker 2: some kind of surveillance film that he fell and they
Speaker 2: saw him like get up halfway and then he got hit.
Speaker 2: But I mean, at that point does it matter? No,
Speaker 2: I was just curious. Yeah, I would say no, probably. Well,
Speaker 2: thank you to those who submitted their shocking story. If
Speaker 2: you have a shocking story, you should email us at
Speaker 2: stories at Mothernosdeath dot com. Please make sure to give
Speaker 2: us as many details photos catch you little title and
Speaker 2: all that. Yeah, and it doesn't have to have photos,
Speaker 2: So just send the story and we would love to
Speaker 2: share it because we love hearing your experiences for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Well, see you guys on Friday this
Speaker 2: week with our news episode. Yeah. See then, thank you
Speaker 2: for listening to Mother Knows Death as a reminder, my
Speaker 2: training is as a pathologist's assistant. I have a master's
Speaker 2: level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education. I
Speaker 2: am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed or
Speaker 2: treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of a
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