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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Hurdler's Emily Amadi here with episode seventy nine of Hurdle,

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Speaker 2: a podcast that talks to everyone from entrepreneurs to top

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Speaker 2: CEOs and athletes about how they've gotten through tough times

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Speaker 2: hurdles of sorts by leaning into wellness. Today's guest is

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Speaker 2: Lisa Hayam. She's a registered dietitian and the founder of

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Speaker 2: the well Necessities. We'll get into what that means in

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Let me tell you I get asked

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Speaker 2: for nutrition advice all the time, and as much as

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Speaker 2: I'm laddered that you guys want my opinion and my help,

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Speaker 2: let's be real, I am so not qualified to offer

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Speaker 2: it in that arena.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I'm so amped to be sitting down

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Speaker 1: with Lisa.

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Speaker 2: She is so knowledgeable and such a sweetheart, and I

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Speaker 2: know you guys are going to love what we have

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Speaker 2: to get into today.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: all of your.

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Speaker 2: Messages, your emails, your DMS, everything when it came.

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Speaker 1: To last week and Chicago.

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Speaker 2: If you're just joining now, if you're just listening to

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Speaker 2: this episode as a one off, firstly, thank you. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: last week I ran the Chicago Marathon.

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Speaker 1: I worked very, very.

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Speaker 2: hurdle community was overwhelming. To say the least, I can

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Speaker 2: report with positivity that I've now answered every single DM

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Speaker 1: So again, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: I am so appreciative of you, and it's really humbling

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Speaker 2: to feel so supported by this awesome community. Now, before

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Speaker 2: let's talk about Lisa. What I love about Lisa is

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Speaker 2: not just her honesty, but it's also her wealth of knowledge.

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Speaker 2: She really shoots it to you straight. She recommends whole

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Speaker 2: real foods, but she's not gonna tell you not to

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Speaker 1: You have balance in your routine.

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Speaker 2: In today's episode, we talk about the difficult times she

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Speaker 2: had when she was in college finding balance herself, and

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Speaker 2: she gets really candid about the struggles that she had

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Speaker 2: about everything from her top two tips to cleaning up

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Speaker 1: And like I said, she is.

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Speaker 2: Just one of those people that you hear her speak,

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Speaker 2: want to keep around as always. At Emily a body

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Speaker 2: at Hurdle podcast on Instagram. You know the drill. You

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Speaker 2: Marathon week. On Wednesday night, I'm going to be doing

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Speaker 2: the best time of year here in New York.

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Speaker 1: And with that, let's get to hurdling. Today.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting down with Lisa Ham. Lisa is a registered dietitian.

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Speaker 2: She's the founder of The Well Necessities. Lisa, what is

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Speaker 2: the Wall Necessities?

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 4: The All Necessities is my business name and my blog name,

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Speaker 4: and it's evolved a bit over time, but at this

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Speaker 4: point it is a platform where I talk about everything

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Speaker 4: dealing with food issues to figure out what works for

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Speaker 3: So The Necessities is all about everything you need to

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Speaker 1: Got it? Okay? And is it a website? Where do

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Speaker 4: Yep? The website and Instagram is probably my most used platform.

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Speaker 3: We also do YouTube and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 2: All that good stuff. Yeah, content creation. Is it something

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Speaker 4: No, the word content creation is very abstract to me,

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Speaker 4: the word influencer because I thought that it was, you know,

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Speaker 4: to do as a registered dietitian. But that was really

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Speaker 4: I'm really happy to call myself an influencer as long

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Speaker 4: as I am influencing in a way that is positive. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: long as I'm making myself proud, then I'm proud to

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Speaker 3: You can call me whatever the heck you want.

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Speaker 1: You can call me whatever you want, all right.

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Speaker 2: I do need a tippit of advice before we really

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Speaker 2: jump into this, and this is you putting your RD

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that that goes back to kind of

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Speaker 2: I woke uploaded because I had this really great meal

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Speaker 1: But what else can I kind of do to beat

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Speaker 4: I was going to say that the as boring as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the body wants to regulate, but forcing it

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Speaker 4: You want to get that water in let your body

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Speaker 4: And if you may be necessary, if you always have

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Speaker 3: I also just want to caution that bloat is something.

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Speaker 4: That we talk about so much that everybody thinks that

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Speaker 4: and it might not necessarily be true. So having food

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Speaker 2: We have so much to learn today. I'm into this, okay,

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Speaker 2: So let's rewind it back. Have you always been really

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Speaker 4: I wanted to do my undergrad in nutrition, but when

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Speaker 4: And nutrition was still like in my mind, So I

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Speaker 4: And looking back, I was, Yeah, I was isolating myself.

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Speaker 4: a good outlet for me. I am very easy if

443
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Speaker 4: somebody gives me a microphone or you know, a microphone,

444
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Speaker 4: so to speak, I'm happy to share anything that's going

445
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Speaker 4: on in my mind. But I remember walking home from

446
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Speaker 4: class with a girl from Columbia and something she said

447
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 4: really struck me, and I realized, like, what are you doing, Lisa,

448
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Speaker 4: Like you are in school to be a nutritionist. You

449
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 4: want to help people with food. How are you going

450
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Speaker 4: to do that if you're struggling yourself in some way.

451
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 4: I just want to sort of back up and sort

452
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Speaker 4: of just explain. My food issues were really under the

453
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Speaker 4: radar because it was I didn't have an eating disorder.

454
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Speaker 4: I never restricted to the point of losing weight. I've

455
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 4: always been thin, and I you know, never made myself

456
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 4: throw up. I didn't fit any of the the key

457
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Speaker 4: characteristics of anorexia or bulimia, so I never thought that

458
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 4: I had a real problem. Now we're talking a lot

459
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Speaker 4: about disordered eating, which is like a much different spectrum,

460
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 4: which is one hundred percent what I was going through,

461
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Speaker 4: and it was very easy to miss. So I had

462
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 4: to be the one to notice it in myself and

463
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Speaker 4: say something is not right. And I started seeing a

464
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Speaker 4: therapist in New York for all these different things. And

465
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 4: I've always been going to therapy my entire life, but

466
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 4: I specifically sought her out because she worked with eating.

467
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Speaker 3: And weird situations with eating.

468
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Speaker 4: And I wouldn't say all of our sessions were about food,

469
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Speaker 4: but it was my safe place to really unpack kind

470
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Speaker 4: of like what was I doing.

471
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Speaker 3: And I remember one day.

472
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Speaker 4: Coming to her and I was telling her about basically

473
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Speaker 4: a friend group that I was sort of in that

474
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Speaker 4: made me feel really uncomfortable about my food decisions. And

475
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Speaker 4: she basically just like looked at me and she was like, well,

476
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Speaker 4: you know what is going on there? And I just

477
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 4: had this like moment where I was like, oh my god,

478
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Speaker 4: I really have.

479
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Speaker 3: A situation with food. You know, how do I fix this?

480
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Speaker 4: And it's very scary because it's not just like Okay,

481
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 4: don't eat that, you know, eat this food and be

482
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Speaker 4: normal again. It's like who am I if I don't

483
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 4: have that identity? And I only knew at the time

484
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 4: balance as being green juice on Monday and on the weekends,

485
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Speaker 4: alcohol and fries and binging, right, And that's not balance.

486
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 4: That's something that I constantly hear about even now, like

487
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 4: people like Okay, I'll get the margarita because balance, like

488
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 4: balance needs to literally check out day in and day out.

489
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Speaker 4: It can't be on Monday through Friday. You are a

490
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Speaker 4: different person than Sunday.

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Speaker 1: On Saturday and Sunday yea.

492
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Speaker 4: And balance needs to literally happen every single day. You

493
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 4: need to go to bed feeling balanced, like you took

494
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Speaker 4: care of everything mentally and physically for yourself, whether that

495
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Speaker 4: means having the cocktail in addition to the fries and

496
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 4: something else, just like it's just not as it's not

497
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Speaker 4: a seesaw that goes.

498
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Speaker 3: Like up and down.

499
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Speaker 4: It really should be level at all times.

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Speaker 2: So you feel like you finally have an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: express that, like something's up to this therapist. But then

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Speaker 2: what happens in practice to deviate the behavior?

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Speaker 4: A lot of that was really on my own, and

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Speaker 4: I didn't follow an exact path, but I started to

533
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Speaker 4: challenge myself. And really it's called fearfoods. Is pretty much

534
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 4: when you cut out different foods, you start to develop

535
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Speaker 4: a fear of So for me, I had gone vegan

536
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Speaker 4: years before that, but I had still carried some fear foods,

537
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 4: meaning like there were foods that I simply was not

538
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: eating because I was scared of what like the tiniest

539
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Speaker 4: bit of it would do to my body.

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Speaker 3: So something like cheese and dairy or a big one

541
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Speaker 3: for me.

542
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 4: And it's really hard to unpack because those happened to

543
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 4: also be foods that didn't make me feel my best,

544
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Speaker 4: But how can I incorporate them in a way that

545
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 4: is just normal? And so I started to be more

546
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Speaker 4: normal around food, going to restaurants and instead of you know, oh,

547
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Speaker 4: can I get the salad without this, this, and this,

548
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 4: just ordering the salad. You know, I'm still vegetarian. I've

549
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 4: been vegetarian for like twelve years, and it's one of

550
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 4: these questions I get where it's.

551
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,239
Speaker 3: Like, well, is that disordered? You know?

552
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 4: And I think for some people it can be, just

553
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 4: because veganism for me was a at the time that

554
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 4: I was vegan was a way to map think less

555
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 4: about food. I didn't have to make as many decisions

556
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 4: if it was like, oh, that has eggs, Okay, I

557
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 4: can't have it. That has dairy, Okay, I can't have that.

558
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 4: So vegetarianism for me is really something different. And like

559
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 4: I've never the idea of like meat or just fully

560
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 4: met because I eat fish and all those things like

561
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 4: just doesn't call to me. But I will say that,

562
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 4: like I try to keep an open mind to the

563
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 4: fact that like there might be a point in my

564
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: life where my body is asking me for meat and

565
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: I need to really really make sure that I listened

566
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 4: to it and evaluate what it means at that point

567
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 4: in time.

568
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, So we started to make better food decisions.

569
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Speaker 1: And does it.

570
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Speaker 2: Feel like a weight is lips it off of your

571
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Speaker 2: shoulders or does it feel stressful? Like I can imagine

572
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: that these kind of changes would feel really difficult because

573
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: like anything that you're working through again, like with this idea.

574
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Speaker 1: Of change, like change is scary.

575
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was never as like linear of a path.

576
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 4: I think at each stage of my life when something

577
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Speaker 4: difficult happened, a breakup, a rejection, a failure. I clung

578
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Speaker 4: harder to whether that was, you know, this fit version

579
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: of myself, So going to the gym and making sure

580
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 4: that I could do ABCD and you or eating really

581
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 4: clean you know, I kind of just I noticed that

582
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Speaker 4: there were points in my life where I fell back

583
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Speaker 4: into that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So you graduate from Columbia, and do you

585
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: know what you want to do when you're done? Yep.

586
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: I wanted to go into private practice immediately.

587
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

588
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 4: I'd been in school for like three years, a dietetic

589
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: internship at a year, probably total five years of everything.

590
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Speaker 4: I'm probably twenty six years old, and I want to

591
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 4: be working and I want to make money, and I

592
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 4: want to go into private.

593
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Speaker 2: Practice, right, okay, And so what would your advice be

594
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: to someone who has these sorts of aspirations, because I

595
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: think that often it's like, oh, I want to have

596
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Speaker 2: a private practice, but like, Hi, that's really scary to

597
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Speaker 2: go out on your own, especially at the age of

598
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Speaker 2: twenty six. It's like, would you recommend someone jump into

599
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Speaker 2: it like that? Would you recommend that someone find more

600
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Speaker 2: internship experience? What would you say to them?

601
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd probably say don't jump into it.

602
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that whatever you choose to do

603
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 4: will work out. I think everything happens for a reason,

604
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 4: and only like your gut, knows what is best for you.

605
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 4: I'm somebody that knew that I wanted to start working

606
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 4: for myself. I think I could have been a hell

607
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: of a lot more strategic when it comes to business,

608
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Speaker 4: getting to know my strengths, getting to know what people

609
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: need from me. But to that point, I think my

610
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 4: evolution is really beautiful because it wouldn't have happened if

611
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 4: I didn't go this route. So I opened my practice,

612
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 4: and I you know, I had a social media following,

613
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Speaker 4: and I expected my doors to open and everybody to

614
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Speaker 4: come kind of knock me on my door to see me.

615
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: And that's not what I got at all.

616
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 4: I got really not crickets, but you know, not enough

617
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 4: to pay the bills and live happily. And I had

618
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Speaker 4: to start really figuring out, you know, what's a more

619
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 4: grassroots method here to get clients, because that's what I

620
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Speaker 4: want to do. And so I literally went knocking on

621
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Speaker 4: doors of doctors that I knew and said, Hi, I'm Lisa,

622
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Speaker 4: I'm opening my practice. Will you send me clients and patients?

623
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Speaker 4: And then gave my business card. So for the first year,

624
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 4: I was getting all types of clients. You know, I

625
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 4: certainly didn't want to be working with. Sorry, not that

626
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 4: I didn't want to be working with these certain populations

627
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 4: that I was working with, but it didn't set my

628
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 4: heart on fire to help women from Long Island who

629
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,239
Speaker 4: didn't need to lose weight lose weight?

630
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Speaker 3: Does that make sense, right?

631
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? What a specific New York issue.

632
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: Right, We're sitting in New York City, these women from

633
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Speaker 2: Long Island.

634
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: Right exactly.

635
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Speaker 4: And my office was in Long Island at the time

636
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: because I wanted a physical space to really feel like

637
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 4: I had something, and you know, rent in Long Island

638
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: was far cheaper than anything I couldn't have done.

639
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Speaker 1: This, yeah, totally. Yeah. So but you didn't want those clients,

640
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: So then how do you pivot from that?

641
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 4: I didn't want those clients, but I had to pay

642
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 4: my bills, and so I I had a wake up

643
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 4: call one day when I was working out where I

644
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 4: have a lot of my wake up calls.

645
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: Actually, do you feel that way?

646
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Speaker 1: One percent?

647
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's why six days a week I'm

648
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: up and doing some sort of fitness at six o'clock

649
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: in the morning. Because I know that when I do that,

650
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: I have the opportunity to be better throughout my day.

651
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, the mental clarity is incredible. And I was reading

652
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: a book that I have no idea how it landed

653
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 4: on my lap, and as I'm turning the pages, it

654
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: felt like it was a book I'm mindful eating. And

655
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: as I'm turning the pages, I'm like, this is what

656
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 4: I've been doing. And I didn't even mean to be

657
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 4: doing it. But the woman in the book was talking

658
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: about how all of a sudden she was giving herself

659
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 4: permission to eat things like chocolate cake whenever she wanted

660
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: and was able to notice that like the chocolate cake

661
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 4: didn't even taste like what she expected it to taste like,

662
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Speaker 4: so she was able to.

663
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: Have a bite and move on.

664
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Speaker 4: And it was I didn't even recognize that I had

665
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 4: sort of developed what I now referred to as food freedom.

666
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 4: And a light bulb went off in my brain and said, Okay,

667
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 4: what are we How can you bring this to your population?

668
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: You're not maybe not your current population, but people who

669
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: are struggling with what you struggled with years ago, the

670
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: weird food stuff disordered eating, being really hyper controlling about

671
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 4: how much you eat and thinking that you have this

672
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 4: control over your body, the way that we think that

673
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: we do when we are really intense about our fitness

674
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 4: or our nutrition.

675
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Yeah, I know what you mean.

676
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: I also I'm curious before you mentioned, like Lisa one

677
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: point zero in terms of your fitness stuff. So what

678
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: kind of stuff are you doing now that has like

679
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: kind of correlated with the shift and the way that

680
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: you see food.

681
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, my dietetic internship year was a year you

682
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 4: spend it basically working at the hospital. You get paid nothing,

683
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: you actually pay to do it, and your hours are

684
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: crazy and you have work when you get home, and

685
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 4: it is just straight up exhausting. So that entire year

686
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 4: shook me out of like the exercise routine that I

687
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 4: was in simply because of time construing. And yeah, we've

688
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: all been parts of our life. I'm sure where fitness

689
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: kind of falls to the wayside. But I was, you know,

690
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: moving my body just to make sure that I felt good.

691
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 4: But it was I was going through weeks or two

692
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: weeks at a time where I couldn't make it to

693
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: the gym, and so I was starting to just really

694
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 4: listen to my body and move it to make sure

695
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: that you know, things weren't getting stuck. But I was

696
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 4: not like looking to achieve a certain aesthetic or only

697
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 4: working out to get a calorie burn or something like that.

698
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, so what does that what types of activity?

699
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: Does that mean?

700
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: Pretty much just been getting in like twenty five minutes

701
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 4: of walking if I could.

702
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's something also that people are

703
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 2: a little how do I say this the right way?

704
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: I also think that's something that we undervalue often. It's

705
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: just this idea of general movement and how we have

706
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: this idea or this thought process that it can be

707
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: an all or nothing mentality, and it's like, well, I

708
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: don't have time to work out today. I have back

709
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: to back meetings, and I have a dinner, and this

710
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: morning I'm tied, so I need to stay in bed

711
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: because that's going to be really good for my well being.

712
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: But what about that ten minutes in between? What about

713
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: the fifteen minutes after you have that phone call. It's

714
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: like you can get in exercise in small doses, movement

715
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: in small doses, and it all adds up to a

716
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: bigger picture. And I think oftentimes we're like, well, I

717
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: don't have time, but look at the time you actually

718
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 2: have and ask yourself what are you capable of doing

719
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: with that?

720
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Speaker 4: So true even starting with I know, like you wake

721
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 4: up and just doing like cat Cow poses, what a

722
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 4: beautiful way to start your day, and being like, yes,

723
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 4: I'm connecting my mind and my body these first three minutes, right,

724
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 4: is movement that counts as movement. You know, you need

725
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 4: to get fluid all around your body and into your

726
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 4: joints and oxygenated blood. That is all really important, so

727
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 4: it doesn't need to look like the thirty minutes at

728
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 4: Barri's boot camp. I one hundred percent agree with that.

729
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: And the other thing that I think a big paradigm

730
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 4: shift that went to my brain is yes, we move

731
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: for our bodies, but our bodies really move for us.

732
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 4: And it's a really intense thing to grasp and helps

733
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 4: us find gratitude for our bodies. So you're not just

734
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 4: like your body is showing up for you every single day.

735
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: And that is a luxury and a gift that a

736
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 4: lot of people don't have, whether they are you know,

737
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 4: handicapped in some way, the fact that your body or

738
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 4: if you're you know, hopefully if you're my body it's

739
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 4: showing up for me every single day.

740
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: I owe it to it to move.

741
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 4: It and help it feel really good. And I think

742
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 4: that we have this like mindset from I'm not sure.

743
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 4: I think we all have sort of different reasons as

744
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: to why we think, like exercise has to look like

745
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: ABC or D.

746
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: But I mean, I think that school.

747
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 4: I don't know if you agree with this or not,

748
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 4: given that you know you're you're an athlete, I think

749
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 4: that like physical education in school is a joke. Like

750
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: I personally hate to run like sprints or relays, and

751
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: so when I got out of college, out of high school,

752
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: the last thing I wanted to do was like exercise

753
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: in this way. But I actually love to strength train,

754
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 4: Like why didn't they show me how to do stuff

755
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 4: like that in high school?

756
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, it feels good on my body specifically.

757
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

758
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: I think it's funny you keep being like you're an athlete.

759
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: I'm like a strong believer that everyone is an athlete

760
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 2: in their own way.

761
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that.

762
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: I mean, Emily in two thousand and six was not

763
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: nearly the same athlete that I am today. Emily in

764
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 2: two thousand and six actually really love to dance despite

765
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: being dramatically overweight, and so that was how I was active.

766
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: But Emily, now in twenty nineteen, is gearing up for

767
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: her eighth marathon. I think that athleticism can be defined

768
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: by many different people, at many different points in their life,

769
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: in many different ways. So like, it's all about perception, right,

770
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: Like I view you as your own type of athlete,

771
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: just like I am my own type of athlete. So

772
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: now that we have that covered, when does the shift

773
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: happen that with the type of clients you're working with?

774
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 2: Because you are realizing now in this epiphany of sorts

775
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 2: that you have been approaching this certain type of eating

776
00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: for a while.

777
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 3: Would it be okay to insert my hurdle moment?

778
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god, please throw me a hurdle all back?

779
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, actually I've never talked I haven't talked about

780
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 4: this in a very long time. And by the way,

781
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: I've had so many hurdle moments in my life. So,

782
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 4: you know, thinking about this podcast was like, which one

783
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 4: is going to be relevant to our conversation? But this

784
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 4: kind of feels natural. The first podcast I was ever on,

785
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: I was on a nutrition related podcast with somebody whose

786
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 4: podcast I listened to and I loved and I was

787
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 4: so honored when she asked me to be on it,

788
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 4: and I recorded it very candidly, as I always do.

789
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 4: I don't like to prepare much for podcasts, even to

790
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 4: this day. And this was about three or four years ago.

791
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 4: And she called me or texted me or emailed me

792
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: days after it went live, and I had already heard

793
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 4: from so many people that they loved it, telling me

794
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 4: that she's taking it down, and I did not understand.

795
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 4: But she basically told me that there were complaints that

796
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 4: people went to my Instagram page and I was promoting

797
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 4: diet culture. And I was so saddened by this because

798
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 4: A it wasn't completely true, and B it made me

799
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 4: take a really like good look at myself. So as

800
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: I am in a skinny body, I have always been

801
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 4: in a skinny body, and I need to be very

802
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 4: careful with my wording to make sure that I'm not

803
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 4: pushing diet culture on everybody. At that time, my philosophy

804
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 4: was very different than what it is now. It was

805
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: never I was never practicing like in a way that

806
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 4: didn't make me feel proud, But like I said, my

807
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 4: audience was different. You know, my sorry, my Instagram audience

808
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 4: and my practice were sort of different things. My practice,

809
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 4: you know, I would help people lose weight, but I

810
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 4: never did so in a way that like wouldn't make

811
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 4: me feel like I was, you know, having them restrict

812
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 4: or starve or do anything like that. I was just

813
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 4: teaching healthy living. Anyway, long story short is she ended

814
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: up apologizing and putting the podcast back up because what

815
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 4: these people said was not true.

816
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: But she basically it.

817
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 4: Made me realize that coming from a skinny body, I

818
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 4: need to be really aware of the words that I'm

819
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 4: saying if I want my words.

820
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: To be well received. Does that make sense yea.

821
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 4: And it was just really hard to like take public

822
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: criticism like that, especially because it wasn't true and I

823
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 4: couldn't really defend myself in the way. But it was

824
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: the first time, I remember, we didn't have Instagram Live

825
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: or stories or anything.

826
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: We didn't even have stories at the time. It was

827
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: that long ago.

828
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 4: But I went on Facebook Live and I just gave

829
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: a public apology to my audience that like, I am

830
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 4: so sorry if I ever made you feel like you're

831
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 4: not good enough or like you need to lose weight,

832
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 4: And just by like visibly seeing my body, and people responded,

833
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: have really haven't even thought about this until on my

834
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 4: walk down here this morning. People responded so kindly, like

835
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 4: that they understood and that they appreciate my message. And

836
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 4: I think from that moment on, I realized that, like

837
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 4: my voice online has to be exactly who I am

838
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: and what I believe and how I eat in my philosophy,

839
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 4: and therefore my practice all those separate things at the

840
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 4: time needs to reflect that. And so while I'm turning

841
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 4: the page of this mindful eating book, I'm like, I

842
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 4: need to bring this to my clients. I need to

843
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 4: only be working with people that really want to improve

844
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 4: their relationship to food. Maybe they also want to lose weight,

845
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 4: but improving their relationship to food needs to come first.

846
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 4: And why that meant saying no to a lot of

847
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 4: different clients as well, who you know simply weren't up for.

848
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: That challenge, right, So then what does that look like

849
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 2: in practice?

850
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 4: So I spent the next few years one on one

851
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 4: practice really implementing mindful eating strategies and pairing that with

852
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 4: nutrition education. So a lot of times when people hear

853
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 4: about my full eating or intuitive eating is a word

854
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 4: that I don't particularly use but a lot of people

855
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 4: are trained to do intuitive eating. They think that that

856
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 4: means anti anti nutrition, and that's not the case at all.

857
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 4: I lead actually with nutrition and helping people learn about

858
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 4: what food actually does in the body so that.

859
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 3: You're not fearful of it.

860
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 4: So the first thing that I was doing with all

861
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 4: of my clients was giving them basically what I learned

862
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: in grad school, Like you shouldn't have to go to

863
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 4: grad school to learn the basics of carbs, proteins and fats, right,

864
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 4: Like simple things that you need to do every single

865
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: day to understand that a calorie simply means food energy,

866
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 4: Like you need energy, whether you are somebody that works

867
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 4: out or doesn't, you need that energy no matter what.

868
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 4: And really uncomplicating that, like you need to eat no

869
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 4: matter what, and you need to eat carbs, proteins, and

870
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: fat no matter what. And empowering them with science so

871
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: that then they can make active decisions to pair that

872
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 4: with listening to their body. And so I started using

873
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 4: meditation in my practices and a lot of things to

874
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 4: help them become their own guide. So it's so easy

875
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 4: to follow somebody on social media and have them tell

876
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 4: you what to eat because they look like, you know, awesome,

877
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 4: But the truth is is that you need to be

878
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 4: your own inner guide. And I didn't want people coming

879
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: to me to look like me. I wanted people coming

880
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 4: to me because they wanted to learn to be their

881
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 4: inner guide and trust themselves. And it's so hard. And

882
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Speaker 4: that's why I call like the noise. There's so much

883
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Speaker 4: noise in or and outer. I know you know a

884
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 4: lot about the inner noise with like the negative self

885
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 4: talk that we're you know, going through all the time.

886
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Speaker 4: I heard on a podcast that you recorded too, that

887
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Speaker 4: something that really struck me as interesting was when you

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Speaker 4: see your hair like in a certain way, it takes

889
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 4: you back to a point of your life that shakes

890
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 4: you up.

891
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: It's triggers some to.

892
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Speaker 4: Youtal and it's so important to know those triggers so

893
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 4: that like when that negative self talk comes in, you

894
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 4: can be like, no, Emily, that's not who you are. Yes,

895
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 4: maybe your hair is making reminding you of that, but

896
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Speaker 4: that's not who you are. Look how far you've come

897
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 4: and so empowering my clients with the ability to combat

898
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 4: inner noise that as well as outer noise. Oh Becky

899
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Speaker 4: the nutritionist from LA is telling you to try food combining,

900
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Speaker 4: you know, to know, Hey, what's working for me is

901
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Speaker 4: working for me.

902
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Speaker 3: I don't need to do.

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Speaker 4: What Becky's doing, and no matter how big or following

904
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924
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Speaker 2: to it. Whether you're vegan, vegetarian, you eat meat, you

925
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: don't eat me, whatever the case may be. What would

926
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: you say are another one or two like guiding principles

927
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: that you would offer up to someone who just wants

928
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Speaker 2: to get like that one percent healthier with what they're

929
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Speaker 2: putting in their body.

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Speaker 4: With what they're putting in their body. Yeah, oh yeah,

931
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 4: easy real food. Like my mantra is eat real, be mindful.

932
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Speaker 4: My longer versions eat real, be mindful, live more, obsessed less.

933
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 4: But the eat real, be mindful is how it all starts.

934
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Speaker 4: Because I believe in the power of real food. And

935
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Speaker 4: that doesn't mean that you can't also have, you know,

936
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Speaker 4: whatever else you like. But if a majority of your

937
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 4: diet is coming out of packaging, that's a good way

938
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Speaker 4: to think of real food. There are some exceptions to

939
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 4: things like grains like oatmeal, right that's a real food,

940
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 4: or oats or brown rice, those are all real food.

941
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 4: But when you are eating with real food, it has

942
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 4: the most powerful nutrition to feel your best, and see

943
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Speaker 4: if you can do it in its most nature, untouched form.

944
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 4: So take something like an orange, for example, and peel

945
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 4: it yourself rather than getting had just got a fruit

946
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 4: cut from right outside right where like all the melon

947
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 4: was peeled off, like the strawberries were all cut. Take

948
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 4: an orange and sit with it and peel it open

949
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 4: with your hands, and go through the motions of what

950
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 4: it's like to eat that orange. Because when it's required,

951
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 4: when the labor's there, when you're chewing it, all these

952
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 4: things actually help you get in tune with your satisfaction

953
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 4: and it slows you down, Like the actual peeling and

954
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 4: segmenting off actually slows you down and allows you to

955
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Speaker 4: become more in touch with your body's internal systems, which,

956
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 4: believe it or not, you have whether you're eating cookies

957
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: or cake or fruit, your body is telling you when

958
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 4: you've had enough, when the taste has dissipated, when you're satisfied,

959
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 4: when you're hungry, when you're full. All that stuff is

960
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 4: within you, right. It might now be clouded out by

961
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 4: these rules that you've placed over them. But if we

962
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 4: can strip that away, like you've totally got.

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Speaker 2: It, I think so many of the people that I've

964
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: sat down with for hurdle, they all advise real food,

965
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: and then a lot of them will say organic when

966
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: possible and things like that. And some of the feedback

967
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: that I've gotten from the hurdlers is that they feel

968
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: like sometimes the people that come to sit down with

969
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: me don't have a realistic understanding of the fact that

970
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: they just don't aren't made of money, and it's like,

971
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Speaker 2: eat all of these organic foods and like, well, you

972
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: know what, and so then I'll say like, well, that's expensive,

973
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: and then the feedback could be, well, like maybe you

974
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: shouldn't do this and use that money toward X instead

975
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Speaker 2: of Y, and it's a little overwhelming.

976
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Speaker 4: I think I one hundred percent agree. I think it's

977
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 4: super easy, especially as probably the people that sit in

978
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Speaker 4: this chair have very different jobs than the people who listen.

979
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 4: Just on my walk down here, actually I was smelling

980
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 4: like freshly baked like croissants and bagels, and I know

981
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 4: exactly that was my thought. M But when I'm at

982
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 4: home all day and I work from home, when I

983
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,479
Speaker 4: wake up, I'm not getting like smells of freshly baked

984
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 4: donuts coming through the walls. Of my house, I'm really not,

985
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 4: And so I think that real life people are experiencing

986
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 4: different stimulus then maybe those of us who work from

987
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 4: home or work for ourselves. And it's really important to

988
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 4: recognize that as a professional that I can't sit in

989
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 4: my chair and tell somebody just listen to your body.

990
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 4: If you're you know, you're getting a smell of a

991
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: donut and it's telling you to eat the doughnut. But

992
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: what I will say is to listen to your internal voice.

993
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 3: When you have those thoughts.

994
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 4: So when you smell a freshly baked donut or like

995
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 4: whatever it is, and that was just the smell I

996
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 4: think that I got on my way down here this morning,

997
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 4: what is their internal voice saying. Is it, oh, that

998
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 4: smells good? Oh no, I can't have that, but I

999
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 4: want it so bad, right? Or is it that smells good?

1000
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: Kinna? Am I still in the mood for my breakfast today?

1001
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

1002
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1003
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 4: And I think just paying attention to that dialogue is

1004
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 4: really important when it comes to expensive versus You know

1005
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 4: that being unattainable. Real food is not more expensive. Yes,

1006
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 4: organic food is more expensive, but real food, one ingredient

1007
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 4: food is going to be more cost effective, but it

1008
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 4: might take a little bit more time, which is a

1009
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 4: cost one hundred percent, yeah, to sort of get that.

1010
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 4: So I think it's important that you don't need to

1011
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: eat all organic. You don't need to even eat all

1012
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 4: real food. But when I say real food, real food

1013
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 4: can easily be a sandwich with turkey. Like bread is

1014
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 4: real food, it's made with a real food ingredient. It's

1015
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 4: kind of different if it's wonderbread sitting on the shelf

1016
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 4: therefore has preservatives and all types of you know things

1017
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: in it.

1018
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: But bread or pasta are one hundred percent real.

1019
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1020
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: Everyone has a different thought process on what real foods

1021
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: would work for them. Okay, so real foods are an

1022
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 2: important thing that we're going to stress here. Other than that,

1023
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: anything else you want to offer up to me to

1024
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: be one percent healthier besides the water tip.

1025
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 4: Like you asked me in the beginning about the bloating, Yeah,

1026
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 4: I think it all starts. Everything we do is cyclical.

1027
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 4: The day doesn't start when you wake up in the

1028
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 4: morning and you feel bloated. The day starts nowhere. Like

1029
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 4: it's all cyclical and flows. But I think a good

1030
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 4: thing to set yourself up for the next day is

1031
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 4: the night before? What are you doing? What are you

1032
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 4: doing the night before? What does your bedtime hygiene look like?

1033
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 4: So wellness and that's you know, the fun part of

1034
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 4: the well necessities to me is it goes so far

1035
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 4: beyond on what you're eating and what you're drinking or

1036
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 4: how much you're moving. It is about what you're thinking,

1037
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 4: what you're doing, how grounded you feel, what your spirituality is.

1038
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 4: You know, do you believe in something bigger? And what

1039
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 4: are you doing to take care of yourself. So I

1040
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: think something like a bedtime ritual can make sure that

1041
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 4: you're even getting really good sleep, which is so important

1042
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 4: for everything, sell, turnover, recovery, really everything. And it's really

1043
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 4: hard to achieve good sleep if what you're doing before

1044
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 4: bed is not optimal. I'm not going to say that

1045
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: every single night I have good bedtime hygiene, but I

1046
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 4: will say that the nights that I really breathwork, breathing

1047
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 4: for three minutes with intentionality writing into my gratitude journal

1048
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 4: provides me with a much deeper and better sleep.

1049
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: I was editing a story yesterday with an expert, and

1050
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: they had feedback. When it comes to the situation like

1051
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 2: the donut situation where it is you smell it, you

1052
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: think about it, then just for a second, think about

1053
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: ten minutes from now, you ate the donut, what's your

1054
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: gut saying, like, how do you feel about the fact

1055
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: that you ate the donut? Like are you happy and

1056
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 2: you're like, wow, that was so delightful? Or are you negative?

1057
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 2: Or is there negative self talk there? And just like

1058
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: take a second and take a step back and be

1059
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 2: like how would I feel? And sometimes you know it's

1060
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: you'll feel great and you can move forward, And that's

1061
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: a good I don't know, I thought it was.

1062
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: I thought it was a really.

1063
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: Good way to kind of view this as how am

1064
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 2: I gonna feel if I do this thing?

1065
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 3: I love that.

1066
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1067
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 4: In my online course for the Noise, which is sort

1068
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 4: of what I do now, I don't work one on

1069
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 4: one with people as much. I have an online course

1070
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 4: and we're in.

1071
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 3: Session right now.

1072
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 4: And last night somebody was a new mom was talking

1073
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 4: about how she is really confused because she wants to

1074
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 4: allow herself to not see foods as good or bad

1075
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 4: to have the cookie, but she's struggling because when she

1076
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 4: has the cookie, it turns into six cookies. And I

1077
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 4: think that that's something that a lot of us can

1078
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 4: sort of relate to, and that is the noise taking

1079
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 4: over as it's happening. So it's it's not for me

1080
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 4: to say that you should or shouldn't have the cookie,

1081
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 4: or that the amount for me to decide the amount

1082
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 4: of cookies that's appropriate for you. That's your job, and

1083
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: it depends situation to situation. But it takes getting quiet

1084
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 4: and not letting the noise in the fear kind of

1085
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 4: swallow you whole. Because what's happening when she's having one cookie,

1086
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 4: she's still going into it with the mindset of Okay,

1087
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have just one cookie, and instead of actually

1088
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 4: tasting the cookie and enjoying it, she's already thinking, oh

1089
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 4: my god, what's this gonna do to my body? Is

1090
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 4: this gonna set me back? Okay, this tastes so good,

1091
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have more and more and more than you're

1092
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 4: You know, you're putting the cookie in your mouth as

1093
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: your brain is getting louder and louder. You're not even

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Speaker 4: enjoying it. The next thing your mind saying is, oh, well, Fitt,

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Speaker 4: you already messed up. You might as well have all

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Speaker 4: the cookies because they're gonna start over tomorrow, right, Is

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Speaker 4: that something that like something I can relate to for me.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent? I mean, you know what, you know

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Speaker 1: what the cookie is for me?

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Speaker 2: Those Trader Joe's dark chocolate peanut butter cups that are

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Speaker 2: near the cast or just said that only cost ninety

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Speaker 2: nine cents for at least like there's at least twelve

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Speaker 2: in the bag.

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Speaker 1: There are many, They're great, yeah them right there, my cookies.

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Speaker 4: There are cookies, and I think that there's no problem

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Speaker 4: having you know, joy from that. And there might be

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Speaker 4: situations where twelve is appropriate for you, Emily, But there.

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Speaker 3: Are not all ones, not all one, but there.

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Speaker 4: There are situations where you are satisfied at one. But

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Speaker 4: it's your job to tune in and recognize what that

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Speaker 4: is and stop creating stories about what a cookie does

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Speaker 4: or what a peanut buttercup does to you and instead

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Speaker 4: just enjoy it. Yeah, and there might be situations where

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Speaker 4: paying attention to the food is important, whereas not paying

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Speaker 4: attention to the food is also important. So maybe it's

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Speaker 4: you know, sharing a special dessert with a with a

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Speaker 4: family member, just being present for those things rather than

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Speaker 4: in your head of no I can't have that, you know,

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Speaker 4: or you're eating it and you're just not even listening

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Speaker 4: to what somebody's saying because you're drowning in the gilt.

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Speaker 2: Right what would you say right now is something that

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Speaker 2: you need? Like what excites you right now?

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Speaker 3: Being creative? I have a creative.

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Speaker 4: Drive that I also kind of ignored for a very

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Speaker 4: long time as I became a registered dietitian and put

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Speaker 4: on my science happ hat and that was all I

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Speaker 4: could kind of be. And I'm really excited by being creative,

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Speaker 4: whether that means for pure joy or for course creation.

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Speaker 3: So my course creation process involves so much.

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Speaker 4: Creativity and marketing and learning how to write copy that's

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Speaker 4: going to speak to somebody, and that really excites me

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Speaker 4: to put on that new role and step away even

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Speaker 4: from the science for a bit.

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Speaker 2: I can imagine creating your first course must have been

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Speaker 2: crazy overwhelming.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it was. It was awesome. Actually it was. You'd

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Speaker 3: be surprised probably how many months.

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Speaker 4: And I'm very lucky that I met my best friend

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Speaker 4: and operations manager in grand jury duty.

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Speaker 3: Almost two years ago.

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Speaker 1: What's the likelihood of that, man, It's insane.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I talk about everything happening for a reason.

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Speaker 4: I had just opened my private practice in New York City.

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Speaker 4: My rent was crazy, and one month later I get

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Speaker 4: to notice that I don't have regular jury duty, have

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Speaker 4: grand jury duty four weeks that I have to be

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Speaker 4: in the courthouse, and like nobody gets out of grand

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Speaker 4: jury duty and you walk into a room of four

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Speaker 4: hundred people. I sat down directly next to her. We

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Speaker 4: both ended up getting picked. We both got picked for

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Speaker 4: the same exact room, which, like the likelihood just keeps

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Speaker 4: getting smaller and small, right, right, And we spent four

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Speaker 4: weeks together. She's an incredible person. Her name is Amaya.

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Speaker 4: She's a foster mom of two. And this woman can

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Speaker 4: do everything, but most importantly I can get As an entrepreneur,

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Speaker 4: you kind of run wild with ideas and she comes

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Speaker 4: and she just tells me like yes, yes, yes, no,

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Speaker 4: or actually it's more like no no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: yes yeah.

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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't have been able to do the course

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Speaker 3: without her.

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Speaker 4: And when I originally came to her with the idea,

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Speaker 4: she was like, Okay, we need to a go so

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Speaker 4: slowly to make sure that this is like perfect, and

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Speaker 4: like you can't lead with all of this. You need

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Speaker 4: to slow it down so that your audience is ready

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Speaker 4: for you, right, And she's just such good reminder to

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Speaker 4: be patient and to not sort of like jump into

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Speaker 4: things because I'm a big jumper into things and figuring

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Speaker 4: it out later.

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Speaker 2: Before you talked about your mantra, eat real, be mindful,

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Speaker 2: if you had to like kind of sum up what

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Speaker 2: it is aside from that that you want to put

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Speaker 2: out into the world, that like, is your message just

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Speaker 2: like what you want to you have like one last

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Speaker 2: chance to put just words on like a social media

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Speaker 2: feed and you want people to see it all the time.

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Speaker 1: Like what does that look like for you?

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Speaker 4: Probably the second half, which is like live more, obsessed

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Speaker 4: less or stress less?

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Speaker 3: And how do we do that? How can you show

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Speaker 3: up as your my audience?

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Speaker 1: Laughs?

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Speaker 3: We had that.

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Speaker 4: We did a challenge last year called My Truthiest Life

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Speaker 4: Challenge and it's like your most authentic self? How can

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Speaker 4: you show up as your most authentic self? And what's

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Speaker 4: holding you back? Because the world needs you, not this

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Speaker 4: version of you you're trying to be.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, last question.

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Speaker 2: You have an opportunity right now to offer the Lisa

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Speaker 2: who is really struggling with figuring out her relationship with

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Speaker 2: food and that hurdle A piece of advice, What advice

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Speaker 2: do you offer.

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00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 4: Her to stop running from herself and to really turn

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Speaker 4: inwards because that's where home and safety truly is.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for sitting down with me, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me.

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Speaker 2: Please take a moment and leave a quick review of

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Speaker 2: the podcast by clicking the link or the description to

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Speaker 2: this episode. We all face multiple hurdles in life. I

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Speaker 2: want to hear about yours. Reach out to me at

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Speaker 2: Emily at hurdle dot us. Connect with the podcast on

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Speaker 2: Instagram and Twitter at Hurdle Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Lisa. Where do they find you? How do they keep

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Speaker 1: up with you? Give me the deeds?

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Speaker 4: Yes, you can find me at the Wellnecessities dot com, Instagram,

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Speaker 4: the will Necessities Emily. You'll just link that below because

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Speaker 4: I chose a very difficult to spell I got you candle,

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Speaker 4: or if you want to check out my course, you

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Speaker 4: can check out Forkthanoise dot com. And we're either in

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Speaker 4: session or on wait lists.

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Speaker 1: So waitless is a good place to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I am at Emily, a body another hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 1: Catch you guys next time.