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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale LOLLI he is Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: and uh, well Matt. We get a little bit of

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Speaker 1: Steelers news here to get to before we drop into

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Speaker 1: the show. Here. Looks like Brian Flores is a finalist

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Speaker 1: along with Mike Kafka and lou and Oramo uh for

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals job. And if Flora's doesn't get the

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Speaker 1: head coaching job there, he's also still a candidate for

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator job in Denver and I believe Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: So he's been a guy who has been a hot

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Speaker 1: name on the the markets this this off season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and deservedly so. I mean, he has a great resume,

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Speaker 1: He's overqualified for what he did. Did you has done here?

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Speaker 1: Be great if he returns to Steelers. But I'm also

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Speaker 1: wishing him the best and get you know, get a

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Speaker 1: better job higher um precedent's type of job. I think

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Speaker 1: he'd be great in Arizona. I mean, those other names

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Speaker 1: are fine, but they've never been head coaches. I think

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Speaker 1: you need someone that demands attention owns the room, has

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Speaker 1: a tough mentality like he does to keep Kyler in

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Speaker 1: line and get that thing back on track because that

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Speaker 1: organization is off the tracks. Yeah, that's an interesting one. Uh.

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Speaker 1: If I'm Flores, I don't know that I'm interested in

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Speaker 1: just taking a defensive coordinator's job. I was thinking that too,

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Speaker 1: Like he could he could hold out, stay in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: another year and in the next hiring cycle, still be

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Speaker 1: a hot name in the head coaching cycle as opposed

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Speaker 1: to heal quickly for people. But I don't think he

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Speaker 1: would be out of it. It's not an hour or never.

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Speaker 1: I would think. No, I would agree with that. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know. So I think that's the the interesting part

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Speaker 1: of this all. And and for fans who don't know,

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Speaker 1: uh know, the Steelers would not get a any draft

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Speaker 1: he has to be with the team for at least

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Speaker 1: two years. So your fans, for that reason and the

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Speaker 1: fact that he's a really good coach, you're rooting for

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Speaker 1: him to return. Yeah, let him, Let him hire Louis

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Speaker 1: and a Romo, someone from the division. Yeah, steal someone

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Speaker 1: from the Bengals. There you go. That's perfect. Um. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you know that that's going to, you know, continue

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Speaker 1: to be something that we watch here. Um. You know

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Speaker 1: again it never hurts too uh, at the very least

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Speaker 1: interview for those jobs and keep your name out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I don't know. Again, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that the Cardinals would be a job that I would

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Speaker 1: to turn it down a head coaching job, and of course,

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Speaker 1: of course, but I do think if I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: it through flora as eyes, I could I could wait

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Speaker 1: one more year and still be in in the hunt.

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Speaker 1: And plus you'd have Tom and Volgin for him and

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Speaker 1: calling people know things behind the scenes would work out

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Speaker 1: well for you couldn't see his defense taken step forward

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Speaker 1: and your resume improves a little in that regard to possibly.

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Speaker 1: But our buddy Mike Sando, when when the season ended,

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Speaker 1: ranked all the available head coaching jobs and frankly he

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Speaker 1: had Houston and Carolina at the top and Arizona dead last.

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Speaker 1: And it goes to show none of them are all

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Speaker 1: that sweet. And there's a reason these jobs come open

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Speaker 1: to I mean, perfect situations. Rarely does built Kyward walk

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Speaker 1: Away or Chuck Nol or whatever too. But this could

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Speaker 1: be as bad as any job out there. Like, you're

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Speaker 1: married to Kyler Murray and he's hurt and all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he's expensive, right, you're not gonna you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: have him to start next season. So the quarterback that

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Speaker 1: you're tied into for fifty million dollars, you get the work,

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Speaker 1: works out. Uh, As I mentioned the top of the show,

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Speaker 1: and we do this every once in a while. He

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Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lally For people who

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Speaker 1: don't know who we are, if you're just finding the

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Speaker 1: show here. Um, obviously Matt and I have been doing

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Speaker 1: this show together now for what five or six years?

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Speaker 1: It seems like decades, but yeah, I know, well it's

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Speaker 1: like it's been a long marriage. Um, you know, a

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Speaker 1: but you know, Matt, Matt came up in the scouting

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Speaker 1: then went to work for ESPN for what over a decade.

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Speaker 1: It was ten years exactly and years exactly. So the

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Speaker 1: four letter of network. Yeah, that's that's where Matt's experience

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Speaker 1: comes from. And obviously now big into the fantasy a

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Speaker 1: ball world and and doing those kind of things as

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Speaker 1: your you have your locked on podcast as well, that

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Speaker 1: uh is the number one UH show for locked On

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Speaker 1: for the network gets there. It's their flagship flagship show.

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Speaker 1: There you go, That's what I was looking for, uh

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Speaker 1: For myself. I've been doing this for thirty years, covering

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Speaker 1: the Steelers for a number of different outlets. Um but

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Speaker 1: I've been doing um well, Steelers Nation Radio since the onset,

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Speaker 1: I believe back in four team what every year we

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Speaker 1: started this thing, I've been I've done a number of

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Speaker 1: the Drive, is the one that, uh well, it seems

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Speaker 1: to work the best for me. We're right, We're let's

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Speaker 1: and and we we thank you for listening here. But

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Speaker 1: let's get into a little more Steeler talk here. Before

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Speaker 1: we before we get too far down the upth hold,

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Speaker 1: um man, if you're looking at the two Super Bowl teams, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how far off are the Steelers from those two franchises

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Speaker 1: right now? Well, let's start with the Chiefs. I think

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Speaker 1: they're the outlier of the league. You know in that

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Speaker 1: traded tyreek Hill, we created a lot of cap space,

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Speaker 1: our best to compete eats. But we're really thinking about

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Speaker 1: Lombardy and what their version of a quote rebuilding years. See,

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Speaker 1: That that was a you know, the Steelers had their

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Speaker 1: look at that. You know, Sean Payton just got hired

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