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Speaker 1: ready to go. Mm hmm mm hmm. Welcome to a

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Speaker 1: special Friday night Draft edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live

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Speaker 1: presented by cores Light download the cores Light Awards after

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Speaker 1: an amazing Giants prizes. I am John Schmilk. He is

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Speaker 1: A big time program, folks. The Jans sixth overall pick,

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Speaker 1: Love you John. I am so ticked off. Not because

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Speaker 1: Let's see what he's made. Hold on, hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 1: hold on, I got I gotta hit the pause button here.

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Speaker 1: And here's why. If there's any quarterback on the face

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Speaker 1: of the planet who would not cause a controversy sitting

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Speaker 1: behind Eli Manning, it's Daniel Jones, and he might as

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Speaker 1: well be Eli's brother. And if there's anyone that could

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Speaker 1: handle all that, it's it's Eli Manning because he's he's

433
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Speaker 1: a big boy. Eli been here for fifteen years. They've

434
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Speaker 1: kept him informed throughout this entire process of what was happening.

435
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Speaker 1: They called him before the pick was announced for a reason.

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Speaker 1: He gets what's happening. And look if somehow and look

437
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Speaker 1: like you said, with a town on the roster, I

438
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Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna happen, but if they go

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Speaker 1: ten six this year and make the playoffs, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's a fat ac company that he's out the door.

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Speaker 1: But eventually, Azzi, you gotta bring in the next guy,

442
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Speaker 1: and it's dangerous to wait until after your first guy

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Speaker 1: is gone. Eli can handle it. Moving away from your

444
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: best franchise player in any sport is not easy. Derek Jeter,

445
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't easy, Patrick Ewing, it wasn't easy. Go down

446
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 1: the list. It never goes the way you wanted to go.

447
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: Go talk to Packer fans about Brett Farve. It's just

448
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Speaker 1: the way it is, and there's no easy way to

449
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Speaker 1: do it. And it was just important for the franchise

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Speaker 1: for the Giants to find the next guy they think

451
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Speaker 1: they have him, and for everybody's sake, that either covers

452
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Speaker 1: the team, works for the team, or roots for the team.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully he's so good you want to move on from

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning. Hopefully he's that good. That should be everybody's goal.

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Speaker 1: You know, there were two very there are two variables

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Speaker 1: here that you're totally leaving out of the picture. A.

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Speaker 1: How satisfied are they with Daniel Jones' development as he

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Speaker 1: watches during his rookie season. Maybe they'll determine he's not ready.

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Speaker 1: That's possible to what could happen to You don't know that,

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Speaker 1: which would be disappointed, would be but it's possible, but

461
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: but possible. And then the other part is if he

462
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Speaker 1: lies healthy, has another six completion mark four thousand yards

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Speaker 1: and twenty five touchdowns and the Giants do win ten games,

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Speaker 1: guess what the Eli is probably coming back. What's what?

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Speaker 1: Why are you even worried about this today? There's no

466
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Speaker 1: point go ahead, as he finish up, where is the

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Speaker 1: pass rush coming from that's gonna make you ten and six? No, no,

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Speaker 1: azzy look, And that's not the question. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: deal with the question I'm dealing with. Is the quarter

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Speaker 1: the quarterback issue? Correct, you must understand the variables that

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Speaker 1: will affect the quarterback issue. You're asking about a passage.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where the pass rush is coming from

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Speaker 1: right now. They need some No one's denying that. And

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Speaker 1: this goes back to the theory where the team either

475
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Speaker 1: has to be going all in for a super Bowl

476
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Speaker 1: or they have to be all in on a rebuild.

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Speaker 1: That's not how they're doing this. This is the same

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Speaker 1: argument I had with um Dan who is one of

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Speaker 1: our great callers I found on Twitter. He's a really

480
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Speaker 1: knowledgeable fans is a great job. But last year everyone's like, oh,

481
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Speaker 1: they're all in. If they were all in, they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have traded Jason Pierre Paul for a future draft pick. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you're an all in team, you don't trade your

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Speaker 1: best pass rusher for a future draft pick. They're trying

485
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Speaker 1: to compete and rebuild, and you're gonna make some moves

486
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Speaker 1: like drafting Daniel Jones at six that might compromise your

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Speaker 1: ability to win now, but it's such an important position

488
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Speaker 1: to fill in the future for the long term health

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Speaker 1: of the franchise. It's worth that short term hit, and

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Speaker 1: fans might not like it, but ownership sees a difference

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Speaker 1: between winning two games and winning seven games. You might

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Speaker 1: not care, fan at home season ticket holders care. Ownership cares.

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Speaker 1: They want to win as many games as possible while

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Speaker 1: setting up the team for the future. You might not

495
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: like it, but that's what they're trying to do. And again,

496
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Speaker 1: I'm only gonna hopefully have to repeat this once tonight.

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Speaker 1: In terms of quarterback controversies, Daniel Jones and Eli Manning,

498
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Speaker 1: these guys are practically related. They've already talked on the phone.

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Speaker 1: Manning is like the fourth brother. Okay, I mean Jones

500
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Speaker 1: is like the fourth Manning brother with Cooper Peyton and Eli. Okay,

501
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: that's how That's how closely like attached these guys are

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Speaker 1: in terms of everything about them. And it would be

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Speaker 1: absolutely foolish to expect that they are going to be

504
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Speaker 1: embroiled in a quarterback controversy. And Manning already called and

505
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Speaker 1: talked to the kid on the phone. If this was

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Speaker 1: a problem, do you think that would have happened? Not

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Speaker 1: gonna be two four or five one three. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to John and Franklin Square online three. He's on next day, Johnny, Hi,

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Speaker 1: guys to thank you for your shows. I think take

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Speaker 1: great thank you. He put that morning show on six

511
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Speaker 1: six to shame. I don't think you have to apologize

512
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: to anybody. The Giants are a great organization and I

513
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: am a proud, proud fan. We aren't apologizing for anything, John,

514
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: We're just we're just explaining what went down. I know

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Speaker 1: you had a lot of it took a lot of

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Speaker 1: guns seas on this show this morning. But listen, I

517
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Speaker 1: know that's your job. I just I said, I want

518
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Speaker 1: to thank you guys for your shows. No problem. Look, look,

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Speaker 1: Paul Paul, Paul Paul doesn't about three. Can we get

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Speaker 1: to uh offensive lineman or look we try and get

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Speaker 1: can we we got we got a marathon of picks

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Speaker 1: to go, and we've had two corners, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Bymon Murphy and Rocky you Sin off the board, Murphy

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Speaker 1: to Arizona, Rocky your Sin to Indianapolis from the Jets,

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Speaker 1: and then the Oakland Raiders drafted Juwan Taller and now

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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel goes off the board to the San Francisco

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Speaker 1: forty nine is who By the way, DeAndre Baker absolutely

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Speaker 1: shut down in their matchup this year. Yeah, here's what

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Speaker 1: I would Yeah, here's what I will say. Um, we

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Speaker 1: we do know that, uh that Little and Cody Ford

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Speaker 1: are still available on the board, I would be absolutely flabergasted.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to use that word again, and don't

533
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Speaker 1: by the way, Risener's there too. I use that word

534
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Speaker 1: last night and I'm going to use it right now.

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00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: But maybe I just should stay away from that word

536
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Speaker 1: from now on and eliminated from the dictionary. But but

537
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: those three guys are there here in round two. How

538
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: in the world would one of those guys get to

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00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: round three, especially deep into round three. I have no

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00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: idea whatsoever because I can't see it happening. But if

541
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: you're asking, those would be the top guys at tackle

542
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: that are still there and they're plugging play players, it's

543
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: got to be somebody down that that area that we have.

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Speaker 1: Well here here, you want to you want to all

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00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: right now, based on what's still on the board, if

546
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Speaker 1: you project late third round that these better guys will

547
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Speaker 1: be gone. You look that Isaiah Prince, the right tackle

548
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: foom Ohio State, and and he is absolutely late third

549
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: round value and he could win a starting job in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. I think he could too. I

551
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: will watch so I don't fake this year. Well there

552
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: you there, there you go, and and and and so

553
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: if you're looking for one, he would be my best

554
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: bet for right tackle. Reasonably valued in that vicinity. Wonderful, great,

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00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: appreciate the call. I appreciate thank he and Paul does

556
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: a great job on the morning show. And you know,

557
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 1: Paul was on the Earth and yesterday everyone knows what

558
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 1: I said about number six and I was dead wrong too.

559
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: So sometimes you get them right, sometimes you get them wrong. Folks,

560
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: you still gotta come on the show and talk football.

561
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: We're not perfectly make mistakes, but we do our best.

562
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: We say I I've tweeted somebody this morning when they

563
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: were asking about, oh, you know, you missed it. Look

564
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: being a sportscaster or being a sports reporter, being a

565
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: sports show host, it's a lot like being a weather man. Okay,

566
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: you can't be right a hundred percent of the time.

567
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: It's impossible. It cannot be done. And you know why,

568
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: because we're not up there in the war room. We

569
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: don't get to sit in general Manager Dave Gettleman's office

570
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: and share his notes and his computer screen. I've asked,

571
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: asked the way, and then it's not happen. It's not happening, which,

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00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: by the way, is another thing that I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you this fellas John's I'm sorry, I'm putting you jeopardy here.

574
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: How many times people will tweet and say, oh, rose

575
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: colored glasses, you're just saying the company line. You're just

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00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: saying what the team wants you to say. Really think

577
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: about that. If we were so company oriented, we'd be

578
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: up there in the office and we would have all

579
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Speaker 1: the information on the inside stuff, and they wouldn't allow

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00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: us to do the show. So obviously we're not that

581
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: inside because we can't be and we all look like

582
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: fools on our mock draft on Wednesday like everybody else.

583
00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: So so ah, you know, experience educated guesses a lot

584
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: of a lot of knowledge information. That's all stuff that

585
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Speaker 1: can be disseminated on a program like this. But if

586
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: you're expecting us to be right of the time, that

587
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: means we would be in Dave Gettleman's office every morning

588
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: and we would not be allowed to do the show.

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00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Paul, greg little offensive tackle ole miss to

590
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawk. Okay, and that's obviously a nice pick

591
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: for them. So we have two corners too, offensive tackles

592
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: and a wide receiver and no trades. A lot of

593
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: times you see trades at the top round to be

594
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: his teams slept on it and are like but nothing yet.

595
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: All right, folks, we got two calls on the line,

596
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: Antonio and Coach Marvin. We're gonna take you. Then we're

597
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: gonna go to an interview with Daniel Jones. I see

598
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: other lines ringing. I don't want to put you on

599
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: hold and make you hang out for half an hour,

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00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: so call back about ten minutes into Daniel Jones and

601
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: will get you back in the line. We'll take your

602
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: calls again. Active interviews over. You'll enjoy the interview a

603
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: lot an Tonio. Manhattan's up next to Antonio. What's going on?

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00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: Hey are you doing guys? They're both of you guys great.

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00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: How are you doing good? Doing good? Um? I just uh,

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00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: first of all, I want to say you guys. I

607
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: want to say that you guys are awesome. Man. You

608
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: guys have to deal with this stuff, whether you know

609
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: it goes how you guys want or it doesn't. You

610
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: guys show up and you guys are true professionals. So

611
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that very kind. We tried to Um,

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00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: I just want to say that I think people need

613
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: to stop just taking everything that Dave Gentleman says to heart.

614
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy, I can't just go out and

615
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: say his game plan to the teams. Whether it's Draffe,

616
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: whether it's a regular season, whether it's all seasons, doesn't matter.

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00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: You can't just go out and say it because other

618
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: teams aren't listening to So guys, just stop. You need

619
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: to get the GM that's gonna tell you nothing, or

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00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna get this GM who's gonna just still you know,

621
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: smoke screens the whole time. Reglads to the fact just

622
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: wait till something happens and then you know, react to

623
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: it out. With that being said, um my problem is

624
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: this in the two years that they get them to

625
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: see it, in two off seasons, it just it looks

626
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: like it's all over the place. You know. It looks

627
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: like we're trying to build for the future, we're trying

628
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: to win now. But and that's fine, and we're trying

629
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: to do both now and that's fine. That's what it

630
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: looks like but it just looks real messy because now

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00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, you drafted a quarterback, but you traded

632
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: the best wide receiver arguab of the league for that

633
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: quarterback and you could have just you know, I guess

634
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: it's a culture problem. But then cool, So now we're

635
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: gonna start a fresh slate. Now Eli Manning now now

636
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 1: morted for Eli Manning. I'm just like man Eli Manning.

637
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: This was supposed to be his man. The locker room

638
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: is the cultures being you know, cleared out. Now you

639
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: know everybody's parade. We're all motivated to go. But you're

640
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: not now not helping Eli Manning now to finish this

641
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: last year and Tonio it's only real quick. I'm gonna

642
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: say something that's controversial and I think people will probably

643
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: laugh at me when I say it. Right, I feel

644
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: better about the Giants offense this year than I felt

645
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: about the Giants offense and probably four years because I

646
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: because I think the offensive line is nearly complete. We'll

647
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: see what happens at right tackle who they had to

648
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: complete the line there. They have an all Pro running back,

649
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: they have two very good wide receivers, they have a

650
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: tight end that you can't cover man on man and

651
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: they have a quarterback that knows what he's doing. I

652
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a top ten offense. I

653
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: don't see any glaring holes. I feel really good about it. Now.

654
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: The defense is a completely different conversation. Okay, completely different.

655
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: But I feel good about the offense this year because

656
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: if you have a little Beckham but you can't block,

657
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter a whole lot. We've seen that the

658
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: last four years, you know what I mean. But now

659
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: here's the thing though, besides, so with the out trade,

660
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 1: the guard came in, but the guarden was coming in

661
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: regarding because he was traded by relegated Vernon. That's correct

662
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: here Handham Jr. Yeah, that's correct. Offense. Yeah, but remember

663
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: now next year you're gonna be able to spend that

664
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: sixteen million in that you're not paying it all Beckham Jr.

665
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 1: To add another player on defense. Yeah, that's that's that's

666
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: definitely you know see the tree. That's two things I

667
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: wanted to stand and now get off is um, we

668
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: gave it what we we traded away uh Snacks Harrison,

669
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: and now we have brought a guy in who might

670
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: not I'm not saying, you know, he might prove me wrong.

671
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: He might actually be there on third downs. But you

672
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: the reason why you got rid of snacks snacks is

673
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: because you wanted Davin Thomas since he gets snaps. No no, no, no,

674
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: no no no, no, no, no no no, that's where

675
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: I gotta stop you. Now, that's where I gotta stop you.

676
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: Now the facts about snacks, Harrison, you must understand as

677
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: they're trying to again reworked this team on the fly

678
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: salary cap issue. Uh, the tire was starting to get

679
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: a little worn. He was missing a lot of practices.

680
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: He was missing a lot of practices. Time out, time out, No,

681
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: no time out. You know what Bell Belichick does. He

682
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: gets of the guys a year too early rather than

683
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: a year too late, because he knows there's a law

684
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: of diminishing returns. Snack s. Harrison, you forget that he

685
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: played a bunch of years with the Jets. As he

686
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: is getting older, that body is breaking down, sore knees.

687
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: He missed a lot of the spring off season program.

688
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: He took a lot of days off during the summer.

689
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: He took days off of practice during the season. They

690
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: gave him maintenance days off. The knees. The chronically sore

691
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: knees for a big man who weighs three oun in

692
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: thirty pounds don't get better with age. Now they get worse.

693
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: I want to add one other thing real quick, if

694
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: you don't mind, Paul, No, he didn't one more thing,

695
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: and I think you are right though. The other thing

696
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: about Snacks that they were concerned about is that he

697
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: wasn't a third down player, and Dave Guttman wants his

698
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: players to rush the pastor. And you're right. The difference

699
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: here with Lawrence as they believe that he will be

700
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: able to affect a quarterback on third down a lot

701
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: more than Snacks Harrison did that year. That point is right.

702
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: That's why they think it's an upgrade, because they think

703
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: Lawrence can be a better ass rusher. I wasn't addressing that.

704
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: I was simply addressing. I was adding it onto what

705
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: you said that the trader the trade of Snacks to say,

706
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: Cody Ford has now gone to the Bills. Oh man, Okay,

707
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: So there's two tackles right away. And by the way,

708
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: that was our first trade. The Bill is traded with

709
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: the Jaguars for that pick, by the way. So the

710
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: point is the point the offensive tackle too, that's what Yeah,

711
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: so so the point is okay, it was kind of

712
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: an ancilliary reason. Okay, Well, Daldlin Thomlinson's gonna be able

713
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: to move over to that spot. That is a result

714
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 1: of a trade that was made for other reasons, made

715
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 1: for salary cap issues, made for the require draft capital,

716
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: and made because Snacks. Harrison's value in all likelihood is

717
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: as high as it's ever going to be for the

718
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: rest of his career, and it's only going to diminish

719
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: as time goes forward. That's not to take anything away

720
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: from him. I love him as a player. Look at

721
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: Arizona right now, Arizona. Well, and this is the in

722
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: my opinion, this is the smart thing to do. Sometimes

723
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: when the value isn't there for a player, just keep him.

724
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: He's just death, that's all he is. No, no, no,

725
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: but Antonio, that depth takes up salary cap space, and

726
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: then you don't get the extra draft pick either next contract.

727
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: It's not it wasn't that Big Nap was gonna make

728
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: seven million next year and then his last year he

729
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: was gonna make ten million dollars. The time, the cap

730
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: goes up every year and the CAP is made and

731
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: the contracts are all made so that the longer a

732
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: player's contract is the lesson, the more ineffective it is

733
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: to a CAP unless it's like you know, completely backed

734
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: up in the contract it's worth every year. I I

735
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to sit here and rehash you

736
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: agree with you. I'm simply telling you the facts as

737
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: to why the player was was jettison and and there

738
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: are other things too that again not everybody is always

739
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: privy to, and that's again always going to be part

740
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: of the equation Asian. There are things that not everybody

741
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: is privy to within internally, within every organization. And by

742
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: the Panthers did trade up with the Seahawks at thirty

743
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: seven too, as Antonio pointed out to pick Greg Little, So, um,

744
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: those are two trades there in round number three. I'm

745
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: trying to track these all as we go along. Uh,

746
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: Coach Marvin, you'll be our last call before we get

747
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: to our Daniel Jones interview, and then we'll get back

748
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: to your calls after Jones has finished. Coach Marvin, what's up? John? Paul?

749
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: Just going Paul Hi round two for Coach Marvin today. Yeah, John,

750
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: I'll fig you earlier. UM, I just wanted to thank

751
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: Paul for what he said in the beginning. I'm the

752
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: same way, um with You're coming out sticking by your

753
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: guns fall and saying that you wouldn't have make that

754
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: pick and that you understand the pick. And that's all

755
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, because we as fans or whatever,

756
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: you can't do anything about it. You're gonna have to

757
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: accept the pick for what it is and and hope,

758
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: pray that the kids it's worked out for, and I

759
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: just pray that it does work out. UM. My thing

760
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: earlier today was I just felt that I like what

761
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: Dave is doing. I don't know if I agree with

762
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks pick a six, but we live with it. Um.

763
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: It's just that being the fans, and the fans that

764
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: say this money to go to these does plays and

765
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: you put out, uh this information that is I mean,

766
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: even as the whole was anything, it's since telling us

767
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: who they're gonna pick. It's sad sometimes we're trying to

768
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: understand where the team is going after we know who

769
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: we let go. When I know Odell Beckham is gone,

770
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,959
Speaker 1: gone and I know what he was, but I don't

771
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: know what we've replaced him with and I think golden Yeah,

772
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: and that makes it kind of toughick, well, you know

773
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: what the coach Morvin and and and I really think

774
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: it's important to note that it's impossible for anybody to

775
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: know exactly what the plan is upstairs, because many times

776
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: they may try to do something and they're unable to

777
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: get it done. And so sometimes the move is made

778
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: because they believe, Okay, this is the plan. This is

779
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: part one. Now we've got to go to part two

780
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: in part three, etcetera, etcetera. And it's easy for a

781
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: fan to have a knee jerk reaction to part one

782
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: when you have no idea what parts two and three are.

783
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: But if they tell you what parts two and three are,

784
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: maybe there's no way it can happen. So they give

785
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: themselves a chance by keeping parts two and three close

786
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: to the best, and then they do their best to

787
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: make them happen. And sometimes what they say blank happens.

788
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: Well best laid plans of mice and men, it doesn't

789
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: always work out that way. But instead, what we usually

790
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: have in today's society, and it's not just in sport,

791
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: is that knee jerk reaction that oh I don't like

792
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: what I just saw. It's automatically wrong, stupid, and I

793
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: hate you for it. And that's a society problem. It's

794
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: not just a problem in the National Football League with

795
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: fans and you and you're right, there's a society problem

796
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: because I have it on my level too, And that's

797
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: why I kind of understand it as that used to

798
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: always tell my parents, even when we in the high

799
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: school level, and if I want to schedule level, whichever

800
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: one I'm I'm dealing with, is I let them know

801
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: in the beginning, um, that I'm the head coach and

802
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: the and that to being the head coach with the parents,

803
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: I lose to all of you because I can't satisfy

804
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: everybody correct and you can't and you can't tell them

805
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: everything that you're planning. You just can't, right because because

806
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen when the game starts and um, we

807
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: walk into that stadium. They're gonna bring their uncles, their aunts,

808
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: the grandparents gonna come, the friends are going to come

809
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: to the game and want to see the kids food,

810
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: and all of them are gonna have their own opinion

811
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: of how I or we call those games. And I

812
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: always say I can't satisfy you. I mean, we had

813
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: some games we did lose and and they probably felt

814
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: we should have did other things. And night try to

815
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: explain that I can't satisfy everybody. The only thing I

816
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: could do is the best what I think is best

817
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: for this team. And that's the way I approach it.

818
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: And I and I know that's what Dave is doing,

819
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: and and the fans are doing exactly what you said.

820
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: Society is you know, it's a jerky reaction to what

821
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: we see and and I had time to have that

822
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: because I'm still a person too, and but I have

823
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: to fit and analyze it, which I did. Um. I

824
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: saw the writing of gil Brant today. I read that

825
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: what he had on on Daniel Jones. I think people

826
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: should read that. Um. Gil brand is one of the

827
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: ones that started the draft. Really, UM, I think Paul

828
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: would know something about that, that the Cowboys was the

829
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: one that was analyzed in these guys, that that style

830
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: of pro personnel education and research was definitely a gil

831
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: brandt uh staple back in the sixties, and and everybody

832
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: kind of built off of that. And he was one

833
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: person today that had a good thing about Daniel Jones.

834
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: I retweeted a great co Sell video piece breaking down

835
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: a couple of his throws. Jim Naggi made the point

836
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: that more people UH in the league that he knows

837
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: had Jones at Haskins rather than Haskins ahead of Jones

838
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: and Uh. There was also a video about believe it

839
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: or Not, and I'm not a fan of this man,

840
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 1: but I thought he actually made some good points. Rex

841
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: Ryan on the Get Up Show on ESPN this morning

842
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: had like a three minute spiel on Daniel Jones, which

843
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: I thought was interesting too, so very pro Jones, that's sure,

844
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: if that's a good thing. Ryan was the first one

845
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: yelling out Daniel Jones. And so you know, I'm hoping

846
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: that the Giants he take the whole year off and

847
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: and he lines, I wouldn't mind him taking two years,

848
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: a year and a half to give himself together and

849
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: maybe he can pick up those things. But as it's

850
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: it's fars to draft, I think they came back with

851
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: some pretty good guys like uh DeAndre Baker. I do

852
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: like that pick. He plays tall, he plays the ball

853
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: very well. He does He's physical, he likes to hit,

854
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: which is good. Only thing Paula disagree with Uh Greedy

855
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: is a doom different. I do agree. He doesn't like

856
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: to tackle that much. But the guy can hug on

857
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: place on the corner. He could he could cover, he

858
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: could cover. We lost him. Yeah, Greedy Williams has length,

859
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: he has speed, and he has ball skills. But again,

860
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: you know, if you like the style of corner that's

861
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: gonna have to help and run support and that's gonna

862
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: have to get people's faces and get physical with with receivers.

863
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: He's probably not your style. Yeah, I'm with you, all right, folks,

864
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: here's the deal. We're gonna go to the Dan Joe's

865
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: interview in a second. I'm gonna update Young where we're at.

866
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of movement and a lot of trades.

867
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: A couple that didn't notice while we were discussing the

868
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: first round picks. Let me go through it. At thirty three,

869
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: Arizona selected cornerback out of Washington Byron Murphy. At thirty four,

870
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: the Colts in a previous trade with the Jets. This

871
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: goes back to last year when they acquired Sam Donald

872
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: drafted Rocky your Sin at a temple. The Jaguars traded

873
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: up with the Raiders. They selected Jawan Taylor, the Niner

874
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: state put. They selected Deebo Samuel. The Panthers traded up

875
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: with the Seahawks, who acquired the pick from the Giants.

876
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: These picks are changed two, two and three times. Now,

877
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: it's crazy. They took Greg Little out of Old miss

878
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: The Bills traded up with the Raiders, who got the

879
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: pick from the Jaguar. From the Jaguars, I think there's

880
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: been like three hands. They select Cody Ford out of Oklahoma.

881
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay they had their pick. They took Sean Bumping

882
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: the cornerback out of Central Michigan. And now the Raiders

883
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: are on the clock and it looks like Mr Woodson

884
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: here has been talking for about thirty seconds. I tried

885
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: to fill so who would make the darn picks? I

886
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: could say, here we go. They pick another cornerback. By

887
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: the way, for you now, folks, and we talked about

888
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: this on the show in noon. You said, couldn't you

889
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: stay at thirty seven and just picked the cornerback. Well,

890
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: this is the fourth cornerback to go off since the

891
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: second round started, So no, maybe not. There's a chance.

892
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: DeAndre Baker was gone to thirty seven and the Giants

893
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: didn't move up to get him. Now, you mentioned the

894
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: pick that the Giants traded, Okay, the second rounder that

895
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: they dealt in the deal to go get the corner

896
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: at the end of the first round, And to be

897
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: honest with you, John Um, I'm okay with it, despite

898
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: the fact that I really would love to have had

899
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: Greg Little to be a playwright tackle. They needed a

900
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: corner or Cody Forward for that matter. Yeah, they they

901
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: needed the corner. Though as much as we know they

902
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: needed a right tackle. I still think there's a chance

903
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: they get a playable, plausible right tackle uh In in

904
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: the next round out at least I'm crossing my fingers

905
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: for it. I don't think you'll get the quality of

906
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: the corner and in DeAndre Baker later on. We'll see, alright, folks.

907
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: So that's where we are in the draft. We had

908
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: a chance to talk Daniel Jones earlier today. We skipped

909
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: a lot of the generic questions, a lot of the

910
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: questions you've heard him answer a million times already, like

911
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: are you happy, were you surprised? Eli Manning, blah blah blah.

912
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: We tried to ask some different ones to get you

913
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: some different answers, kind of go in depth on who

914
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: he is, where he came from, the type of guy

915
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: that he was, and some technical XS and old stuff

916
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: on the field. So let's get to it. Our conversation

917
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: with Duke quarterback and now Giants quarterback their six overall

918
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, Daniel Jones. And as the interview,

919
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: we will take your calls back on the phone. So'll

920
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: get on the lines, and now we're joined by the

921
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: Giants first round pick, sixth overall quarterback out of Duke

922
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: red Shirt Jr. And that is Daniel Jones. Daniel, you

923
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: got Paul Datino and John Schmilk here and East Rutherford,

924
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: New Jersey inside the Giants practice facility. Congratulations. So any

925
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: different feeling twenty four hours after the pick? Has it

926
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: selled in a little bit? Fo? Yeah? Uh yeah, it's

927
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: sell them a little bit, But I don't know how

928
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: different it really is. I'm still uh, I'm still thrilled.

929
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: I'm ecstatic to be part of the uh, to be

930
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: part of the New York Giants, And you know, I

931
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: can't wait to get up there and get started. Do

932
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: you have to stand the kind of spotlight that a

933
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: number one pick in New York is going to face,

934
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: and quite Honestly, no matter how many big games you've

935
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: played in at Duke, do you think that that there's

936
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: any way you could be prepared for the kind of

937
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: of of scrutiny and the kind of pressure you're gonna

938
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: face being with the Giants. Uh? Yeah, I mean I

939
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: think that's uh, you know, a special opportunity to be

940
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: to be in New York, to be the quarterback or

941
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: uh you know, have the oportunity to play quarterback for

942
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: the Giants is a special opportunity. And you know, I'm

943
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: not sure that there's anything that that prepares you for that,

944
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: but um, you know, I think it's uh, you know,

945
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: it's a matter of being confident in yourself. I think, um,

946
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: you know, it has a lot to do with with

947
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: who you are as a person as far as how

948
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: you can handle that. And uh, you know, I think

949
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm ready for it, and I'm looking forward to um

950
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: to get and started. I want to go back to

951
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: your recruitment a little bit, Daniel, because I think it

952
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: says a little bit about you. You had a scholarship

953
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: offer from Princeton. If I'm not mistaken right, you were

954
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: two star recruit but instead of taking the scholarship, and

955
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: going to a school or I'm sure your parents like Princeton,

956
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: go to Princeton, go to Princeton. And you decided to

957
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: walk on at Duke. Why did you make that decision?

958
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: And what do you think that says about you? Uh? Well,

959
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: to me, it was, um, you know, a comparable academic

960
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: opportunity at Duke and an opportunity to stay uh you know,

961
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: stay in North Carolina where I would be, um, you know,

962
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: not too close but close enough to my my family

963
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: in Charlotte and um, and you know a big part

964
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: of it was to play in the A SEC. To

965
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: be able to play um, you know, power five football

966
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: at a at a really good school and a really

967
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: good program with with coach Cutt and all he's done, uh,

968
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: you know for the program, all he's done, uh, you know, developing,

969
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: developing football players, developing quarterback and you know I saw

970
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: that as a special opportunity. And and you know that

971
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: the uh, you know, the aspect of the you know,

972
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: choosing to walk on was was you know what was

973
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: was part of that decision. But um, you know how

974
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: was the years to compete and I just wanted to

975
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: want to come to Duke and you know I thought

976
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: I could, thought I could be successful. Let me stick

977
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: with your career at Duke Daniels. So many quarterbacks when

978
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: they get a chance that they jumped to the NFL

979
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: after playing only a year or two. You had three

980
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: years as a starter. And I know that, I know

981
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: you know who Bill Parcels is, the Hall of Fame

982
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: coach here the Giants who went two Super Bowls. One

983
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: of the things that he said he looked for in

984
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: a college quarterback when trying to bring him into the

985
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: NFL was that he had to be a three year starter.

986
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: He had to win twenty three games in college. He

987
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: had to have a thirty career starts. How much do

988
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: you believe you gained over the course of the last

989
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: year or two as you finished up your three years

990
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: as a starter at Duke. How much better are you

991
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: today then you were two or three years ago. I

992
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: think I'm I'm a whole lot better. I think, you know,

993
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: there's no real, uh, you know, substitute for for playing

994
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: the game. I think, especially as a quarterback. The you know,

995
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: coach Cut always says that you know, the real way

996
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna improve is playing eleven on eleven football, And

997
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: and you know, you do that in the game. So,

998
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: uh you know, I think that that, uh, that opportunity

999
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: to play three years, uh you know, was huge for me,

1000
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: and I think each year I improved, uh you know,

1001
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,479
Speaker 1: each year, and I think that was that was big

1002
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: for my development and hopefully that uh you know, set

1003
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 1: me up for a transition to the NFL. Is there

1004
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: one thing in particular that you believe the extra experience

1005
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: of being a three years starter helped you with to

1006
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: to be prepared for the pro ranks? Um, you know,

1007
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: I think something that uh you know, we did a

1008
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: duke a lot. Coach Cutt always um you know, puts

1009
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: a lot of responsibility on the shoulder of the quarterback

1010
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: in terms of managing protections and in the past game

1011
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: understanding that and uh you know, managing are the issues

1012
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: with it and handling pressures. I think, you know, each

1013
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: year I improved with that a good bit, uh you know,

1014
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: with with his help with with Coach Roper and and

1015
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: their their coaching. I think that was big, And you know,

1016
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: I think that's a the way I understand it's a

1017
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 1: big part of the the NFL game and the expectations

1018
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: for an NFL quarterback. So, um, you know, hopefully I'm

1019
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: prepared well in that In that regard, Daniel, absolutely, and

1020
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the reasons the Giants drafted

1021
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: you or because of the way you played the quarterback

1022
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: position from the neck up. They loved your physical tools obviously,

1023
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: but it's the way you thought the game. You mentioned

1024
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: organizing your protections. I think the way you go through

1025
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: your progressions is another part of why they think you'll

1026
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: make such an easy transition to the NFL. And a

1027
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: lot of college quarterbacks aren't asked to do that. So

1028
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: within that offense, how did that work with the progressions?

1029
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's short to deep, sometimes it's deep to short.

1030
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: How does coach Cutcliffe teaches quarterbacks to go through their progressions,

1031
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: which in the NFL was such an important part of

1032
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: a position. Yeah, I think you know, Coach Cutt teaches, uh,

1033
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, each concept is is a little bit different

1034
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: because he's, uh, you know, he's big on understanding coverages.

1035
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,479
Speaker 1: I think you know he expects quarterback to have a uh,

1036
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, a great pre snap read where you're you've

1037
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: got a great idea what can happen in a quick

1038
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: post snap for reading kind of deplanded on what you

1039
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: see is um you know how you're going to read

1040
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: that specific concept. So UM you know that that that

1041
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: aspect of of being able to um you know, process

1042
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: the defense quickly to see it and react and make

1043
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: a quick decision is something that uh you know, I

1044
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: certainly improved on every year. But UM, I think just

1045
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: that process, that method of teaching in that uh you know,

1046
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: the decisions are based off a quick analysis of the defense,

1047
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: of the coverage of the contour. UM you know, is

1048
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: uh is something that that I think is is uh

1049
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully it is something that has prepared me

1050
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: for the NFL. I think that's um yeah, you know,

1051
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: I hopefully that's the NFL. Yeah. He can teach it,

1052
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: but you still gotta do it, and that requires a

1053
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: lot of work on your part. I imagine the film

1054
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: room during the week, but then pre snap you have

1055
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: to make your read and then within two or three

1056
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: seconds post snaps to the ball, you have to decide

1057
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: whether or not they're disguising their coverage, what the defense

1058
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: is doing. Can you just talk about your process in

1059
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: terms of before the game, during the week, how your

1060
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: film study works to be able to recognize those defenses,

1061
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: and then how you're able to process things so quickly

1062
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: once you have the ball in your hands. Yeah, I

1063
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: think it definitely starts. Uh you know, it starts early

1064
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: in the week with film study. So that's uh, you know,

1065
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: getting in Sunday to day after the game, uh you know, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

1066
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: You know, I had a routine where I was separating

1067
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: uh you know, my analysis and in first and second downds.

1068
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: Uh you know, you know, watching cut ups on on fronts,

1069
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: on coverages, on pressures, on secondary pressures. Uh, kind of

1070
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: separating that out and then uh you know day you know,

1071
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: maybe you moved to to third down. The next day

1072
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: you moved to red zone and kind of breaking up

1073
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: your week that way to whereby uh, you know, Friday

1074
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: in the college week, you're you're ready to play and

1075
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: you're putting the final touches on on film study. But

1076
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think all that stuff from

1077
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: protecting adjustments to understanding contours and uh you know defenses

1078
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: happened in in film study, and uh you know, I

1079
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: know in the NFL it'll be uh ramped up a

1080
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 1: great deal and I'm looking forward to to learning about

1081
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: that process and um, you know lucky to be able

1082
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: to watch you. I do it every week, so I'm

1083
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: looking forward to that. He's one of the best at it,

1084
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: no doubt about that, Daniel. I know we're running out

1085
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 1: of time here, but I want to ask you about

1086
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: your athletic family. You've got a tremendous amount of athleticism

1087
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: in your family. Did that kind of spur you on

1088
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: at an early age to the competitiveness that you would

1089
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: now have in college and as you enter the NFL.

1090
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: How much of a factor do you believe that was.

1091
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: I think it was a tremendous factor in my uh,

1092
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: you know, in my development as a kid. We were

1093
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,280
Speaker 1: always uh you know, me and my siblings were always

1094
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: playing something. We're always outside, uh you know, competing and

1095
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: whatever it was. And and uh, I think that was

1096
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: that was tremendous to my development early on, you know,

1097
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: playing just as many sports as I could, and uh,

1098
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: learning how to compete in each one of them was

1099
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: it was huge for me. So, you know, I was

1100
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: lucky to grow up that way with um, you know,

1101
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: three siblings who who did the same things and we're um,

1102
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: you know, competing the same way. So UM, yeah, I

1103
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: think I think, you know, a lot of a lot

1104
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 1: of my competitiveness today stems from, you know, those days

1105
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: early on. You know, it's funny you mentioned your competitive Daniel,

1106
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: and I've been watching your games. I'm trying to watch

1107
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: every snap over the next two weeks that you took

1108
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: a duke. And the game I watched earlier today was

1109
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: the game against Clemson, and I think I saw two

1110
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: separate throws in that game that I think kind of

1111
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: define one of your greatest strengths and weaknesses. There was

1112
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: a third early we got a guy in your face.

1113
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: I think it was Cleland Ferrell, the lazy output. You

1114
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: put a perfect deep post over the middle. Unfortunately receiver

1115
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: could have come up with the ball, but it was

1116
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: a great throw on the pressure. Then later in the game,

1117
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: similar situation, you're getting it, you throw the ball up,

1118
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: it hits the defender in the hands, he doesn't catch it.

1119
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 1: Is there some way that you need to refine maybe

1120
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 1: how when you try to make that big play through

1121
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: contact and when maybe you're like, maybe it's better to

1122
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: fight another day and not maybe put the bull up

1123
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: for grabs. Is that something that you're working on in

1124
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: terms of when to try to make the big play

1125
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: and when to make the smart decision. Yeah, I think

1126
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: that's uh yeah, there's certainly a lot of opportunities to improve.

1127
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm you know, anywhere where anywhere close

1128
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: to where I'll be, um, you know, hopefully, uh you know,

1129
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: but by the end of my career, I think, you know,

1130
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm by no means to finished products. So yeah, that's

1131
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: a that's an opportunity to learn and grow and and

1132
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: I think I'm in a grate sich situation to do

1133
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: that now, um, you know, in New York with with

1134
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: coach Hermer, coach Shula um and then obviously Eli who

1135
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: who uh definitely knows what it takes to have a

1136
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: whole lot of success in this at this level. So

1137
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it and I'm looking forward to learning.

1138
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: Final one for me, Daniel, And I gotta ask you,

1139
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: because everybody around New York was electrified by Sea Kwan

1140
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: Barkley last year, and of course he won the Rookie

1141
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: of the Year coming out of Penn State. When you

1142
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: walk into that Giant's locker room for the first time,

1143
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: is it going to be kind of a kind of

1144
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: a thrill for you to to to not just to

1145
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: go up to Eli. But are you gonna walk over

1146
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: to St. Kwan and say, hey, fellow first round pick,

1147
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: what's it like? Give me, give me some tips, give

1148
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: me some advice. Uh. Yeah, I'll be looking forward to

1149
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: learning from from everyone. I think. Yeah, obviously s k

1150
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: a whole lot of success already in his uh, in

1151
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: his short career. But you know, I think you can

1152
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: learn a lot from from all the guys who've done

1153
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: it before and and uh, you know, been been a

1154
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: rookie at one time. So um, I'm definitely looking forward

1155
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: to that and uh and looking forward to getting up there, Daniel.

1156
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: I'll close on a fun one for you. You've gone

1157
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: up against some really good defensive linebackers, defensive ends. Have

1158
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: you ever played pick up basketball against Zion Williamson? And

1159
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: which one is tougher? Oh? Oh, I have a good question. Uh,

1160
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: I haven't actually played pickup was um before? You know,

1161
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: I've seen him around something. But but I don't know

1162
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: that that's a tough, tough question. Um, but uh, but uh,

1163
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's a He's a heck of an

1164
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: athlete obviously a whole lot of fun to watch and um,

1165
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: tremendous person. You know off the field and he's a

1166
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: he's a special guy. Could you imagine if he winds

1167
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: up with the Knicks and we got Jones here with

1168
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: the with the Giants boy the Duke of Luman this year,

1169
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna go nuts, Daniel, that'd be that'd be a

1170
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 1: good deal there. We'll see what happens and he doesn't

1171
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: want to play the next maybe you can recruit to

1172
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: play tight end or defensive end. I think that would

1173
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: be fine too. But that's just me, Daniel. We appreciate

1174
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: the time and congratulations again and we look forward to

1175
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: Senior Rookie Minicamp later this week. Thank you so much.

1176
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, thank you all for having me. That's

1177
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, now Giants quarterback, former quarterback for the Duke

1178
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: Blue Devils, joining us on Big Blue Kickoff live on

1179
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: Giant dot Com. You need that, Paul, Yes, sir, A

1180
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: couple of most people don't think I need a Well

1181
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: that that's fair, you don't you you're kind of Mr

1182
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: Microphone actually, So all right here we go. We got

1183
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: a couple more. Oh my sleeper went, I thought he

1184
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: might be all over the Giants and around three you

1185
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: like the Hawaii backer I did like my Hawaii backer,

1186
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,919
Speaker 1: so we had a few picks here and our boy,

1187
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: Dame Bruegler, he's a big um July Tavai fan as well,

1188
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: Johnny Tavai Um, so a couple of picks while we

1189
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: were gone the Oakland Raiders select trivia on MO and

1190
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: I think I got that in. Right before the Daniel

1191
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: Jones interview, Dalton and Reisner went to the Denver Broncos

1192
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: back to back with Drew Lock, who a lot of

1193
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: people thought they would take in the first round, and

1194
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: said they get him in round two with their third

1195
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. Wow. And then at forty three

1196
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions to like Jillanni Tavai linebacker out of Havaii.

1197
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: Paul reaction to the Daniel Jones spot. Besides the fact

1198
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: that now it's just fate that Zion Williamson's coming to

1199
01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: the next Hey, should New York be so lucky? That's

1200
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: all I got out of it. I don't know about

1201
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: I don't know about you. Uh. Jones checks all of

1202
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: the intangible boxes. We've already said that multiple times. And

1203
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: when you talk to the young man and I haven't

1204
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: had the chance to meet him. One on one we

1205
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: met him at the Combine. John during the media, I

1206
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: sense you're talking with the Senior Bowl. It was scrum

1207
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: but I had a kind I had like two or

1208
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: three questions back and forth. You sense the professionalism at class,

1209
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: the respect. Again, he's like the unofficial fourth Manning brother.

1210
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: That's just the way he is. And here's the thing, Paul,

1211
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: and you talk to people, and the sense that I

1212
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: get he was drafted as much for what's happening from

1213
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: the neck up, on and off the field as for

1214
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: what he does from the neck down. And again I'm

1215
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: not saying it's because of his the tangibles that's why

1216
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: they drafted him. But the mental part of the quarterback position,

1217
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: the preparation, the recall, the memory, recovering from bad plays

1218
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: and moving forward, reading defense, is making decisions. Those are

1219
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: all important things. But that they think he is elite

1220
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: at And while maybe his arm strength is an elite,

1221
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: it's certainly good enough. He's a mobile quarterback, maybe the

1222
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: second or third most mobile quarterback in the class, depending

1223
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: on who you're talking about. So he checks the boxes physically,

1224
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: But I think where he's elite, and I hate using

1225
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: that word on us. I know it's a buzzword. From

1226
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: the neck up. They believe he is head and shoulders

1227
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: no pun intended above the other quarterbacks in the class.

1228
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: From the neck up. Well, and let's make it very

1229
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: clear that to some degree Dave Gettleman telegraph that when

1230
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: he told us in his pre draft press conference, did

1231
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: that mental capacity, mental strength, and how you handle your business,

1232
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: especially how you handle adversity. And Lord knows, Daniel Jones

1233
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: has had adversity a duke with the drop passes and

1234
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: the poorest offensive line that has not been a great

1235
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: offensive unit that he has had to work. And he

1236
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: walked on there. He had to earn a spot. Okay,

1237
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: so you know, Dave Gettleman was saying, like, guys, flashlight

1238
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: over here. I'm kind of showing something. Do you want

1239
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: to take? You're right in in retrospect, it should have

1240
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: been a brighter spotlight maybe two, one, four, five on three.

1241
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: Joean Pennsylvania has been holding the longest through that interview.

1242
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Hello Joe, how are you uh fine?

1243
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: Uh fine? Guys? First, I have to congratulate Paul there.

1244
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: They put you on the spot in the mock draft.

1245
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: The other day they took all the defensive players, the

1246
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: way the edge rushers. You wonder, and who did you pick?

1247
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: Clinton Farrell, the guy that Oakland took anyway? Fifth, So

1248
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: you know how to pick town, Paul, you appreciate that.

1249
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: Actually fourth, I took him for you don't need to

1250
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: get him cocky here, Joe, we only insult people on

1251
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: the show. We don't put him on the spot. You're

1252
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: busted him and everything. Hold on, everybody got put on

1253
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: gm in himself though. I'm just old, Joe, I'm just old.

1254
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: That's all. Well, I'm just saying there, Paul, you did it.

1255
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: Let's see how he turns out before we start making

1256
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: up party party plans. Okay, I hope he turns out

1257
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: real well, because I did. I did like him a lot,

1258
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna be a good player. Go ahead.

1259
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 1: Was he was? He hurt the quarterback we picked there

1260
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: at all? In the three years? Daniel Yeah, Daniel Jones

1261
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: had an injury. I want to check the date on

1262
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: this now. I think it was two years ago. He

1263
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: had a collar bone clavical correct broken broken collar bone,

1264
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: and he only missed twenty days of practice. They put

1265
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: a steel bar in there. Eli never broke his clavical

1266
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Speaker 1: He had a shoulder injury. Was it two thousand and

1267
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: eight or nine? Paul, I remember South Palatonio reported that

1268
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: he would be at a month. He ended up missing

1269
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: like one practice. Correct. Correct, And that again goes back

1270
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: to the adversity thing we just talked about a second ago,

1271
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: with Dave Gettleman saying that that's important. How do you

1272
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: deal with it? God deal with a broken collar bone.

1273
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: He comes back after only twenty days of missing practice.

1274
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: That's adversity. Okay, that's toughness. And you know you can't

1275
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: necessarily put a number of value on that. That's an

1276
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: intangible that goes in the guy's file and helps us great. Yeah,

1277
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: I just want to stay too. I was watching ESPN

1278
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan's a big fan to him. He said, you

1279
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: could put it put Jones on Ohio State and he

1280
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: could have made all them throws that Hasken. You know.

1281
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of people think that now

1282
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: watching him making his reads and stuff like that. He

1283
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,479
Speaker 1: stands in there well and everything. You know, I hope

1284
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: he can play better than wins there in our division

1285
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: and just not get injured like he does. That's all

1286
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: so because he's still on the on the rope there

1287
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 1: would being injured and being available. So go Giants. Thank

1288
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: you taking my call. Always appreciate it. Now if I

1289
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: after that call, I poked you in the side of

1290
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: the head with the pen, Well you're had to flight

1291
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, Johnny. The only thing I

1292
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: can say is so I didn't known you and Mike

1293
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: Mayock were so tight. I remember what he was a

1294
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: defensive back for the Giants, blew out his knee. He

1295
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: was a special team or in a safety I know.

1296
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm not late seven with you, anyway. That was what

1297
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: year in the beat, seventy nine two o one, died, three,

1298
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: died four or five on three. Let's get back to

1299
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: the phone calls and go to Jared and Newport. Next

1300
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: by the way, Elchin Jenkins from Mississippi State the Center

1301
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: to the Packers at forty four and another trade. Just

1302
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: for the record, folks and Jared, I'll get to you

1303
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: in a second. I'm sorry of the picks made so

1304
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: far in this round of the team that originally held

1305
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: it two three, four, six, less than half of the

1306
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: teams that originally held the pick have made the pixel

1307
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: far in this round. And that goes to the fact

1308
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of quality parody in these rounds.

1309
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: And I said that, Remember we made the point that

1310
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: from five to six, team's boards are gonna look very,

1311
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: very different, so there's gonna be a lot of movement

1312
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: in this Erra Gettleman said it's the best first four

1313
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: rounds he's ever seen. All Right, two, one, three? Now

1314
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: Jared's in Newport's sorry, Jared, what's up? Hi? Hey, guys,

1315
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it. I'm

1316
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: so excited that we got three first round uh grated

1317
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: players in this year's draft, and it's killing me that

1318
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: we don't have anybody in the second round. But that's okay,

1319
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: because if Dave Gentleman would just trade all the rest

1320
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: of the picks, we have to get some decent player

1321
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: in the second round. Well, Jared, how about this, Jared?

1322
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: Real quick? How about this? Would you be willing? Here's

1323
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I could get you this pick coming

1324
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: up here with the Seattle Seahawks, who have been trading

1325
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: down all day. I can get you Seattle's pick at

1326
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: forty seven. You gotta give him though seventh round pick

1327
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: this year, A six A fifth round pick this year,

1328
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: and you gotta trade your two from next season. Do

1329
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: you do that and I can get your forty seven.

1330
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: I'm not giving away anything for next season. We got left.

1331
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: We could trade up for a really good, decent player,

1332
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: can pick talent. I'm all for it, but no, I

1333
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: don't want to give away anything for next year. With you,

1334
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: I think we're setting ourselves up grade for this year.

1335
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I can't believe that we got a

1336
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: sleeper quarterback in the first round and the future is

1337
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 1: just so bright for the Giants. I'll give you a

1338
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: little bit more good news that's gonna make you smile

1339
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 1: even better. The Giant stalary cap situation as it's projected

1340
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: right now, should be much better. I haven't recalculated it

1341
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: after the Tate and Sterling Shepherd deals, but it's still

1342
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 1: gonna be very favorable, depending because you could have O'Dell's

1343
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: money coming off, Vernon's money coming off, and theoretically Eli

1344
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: Manning's money coming off. That's a lot of money coming

1345
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: off snacks too. That right, gentleman, is going to show

1346
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: you how you can rebuild and win at the same time.

1347
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 1: And I cannot wait well to see our win streak

1348
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: coming up this season. Well, yeah, I remember, that's that's

1349
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: the thing, and appreciate the call. And you gotta win

1350
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: this season for that to be true. And look and

1351
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: and it's fair and appreciate your calling and thank you. Um.

1352
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: Defense is still an issue and that's something they're going

1353
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,879
Speaker 1: to address as his draft continues, adding people on defense,

1354
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: especially at at drusher, a linebacker, maybe another corner, and

1355
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: we'll see where they go to A one nine three

1356
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: nine four five one three mo is in Brooklyn, Yo

1357
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: more don Okay, yeah, no, I just wanted to get

1358
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: your opinion on the thought that you know, you know,

1359
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: I here's a lot of fans that are angry that

1360
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: Gettleman or the Pike or Jones or something. I think

1361
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: they're not actually angry at any of those. I think

1362
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: subconsciously we've all been faced with, like, you know, the

1363
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: mortality of you guy's career, right like if he is

1364
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: closer to the end, and they actually picked a guy

1365
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: really really high and you know, we're almost finished, and

1366
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: I say, you know, we're having we're fans, we're having

1367
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 1: a more something I can to our team, and elik,

1368
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 1: I love you lie, so we don't want to see

1369
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: them go just yet or like not ready to let go.

1370
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: I think maybe that's really where the anger that had

1371
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: come in from. Otherwise, it's a fine ticks. We told

1372
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: we've got two great defensive guys in a quarterback in

1373
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 1: the first round. I think we did. Okay, okay, and uh,

1374
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that that so much of the fire

1375
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:31,480
Speaker 1: and brimstone is necessarily the result of what you're suggesting.

1376
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: I do think that you get a lot of a

1377
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: lot of ideas that are printed in the media that

1378
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: does stir up a lot of really nasty feelings amongst

1379
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: the fan base. But um hey, whatever, bottom line is,

1380
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: the Giants are moving forward. Did you have a thought

1381
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: about what you'd like them to take in the third round?

1382
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: What would we What would I like for us to

1383
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: take a third round propably right tackle? And that's not

1384
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: a bad choice if value meets need, I certainly think

1385
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: John and I agree, Yeah, I mean it's something that

1386
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: we definitely need that and uh, maybe an addresser, but

1387
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: definitely a right tackle. Once you finish that old line

1388
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: with a great, great winning game, you know you can

1389
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: probably get play actions. You get play action, you can

1390
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: open up everything else, and your quarterback can get a

1391
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: lot more success out of that. I think Eli and

1392
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: you know, and coach Coughlan won two Super Bowls with

1393
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: good play action if I remember correctly. Absolutely I loves

1394
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: to play action and they and that's why the offense

1395
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: really took off in the second half of last year.

1396
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: People talked about the offensive line getting fixed. To Mom Brown,

1397
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: all that stuff is great. They changed the way they played.

1398
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:40,759
Speaker 1: They had far fewer traditional dropbacks and shotgun or under center,

1399
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,799
Speaker 1: and they did a lot more moving in the pocket

1400
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: and a lot more play action and that helped everything.

1401
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: Imagine if they could get the back shoulder throw back

1402
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: into the playbook too. I was watching, by the way, Paul,

1403
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 1: just I watched watching that Clemson game today with Daniel Jones.

1404
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: He had a really nice back shoulder throw on the sideline.

1405
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: I know, thank you, Mom, appreciate the call. Man one three, John,

1406
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: and South Carolina is up next? Hey John, Hey, how

1407
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:15,440
Speaker 1: you doing it? John? And Paul, nice to talk to you. Yes, Um,

1408
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: well we'll call it before Mouh took one of my

1409
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: questions about how I'm sitting here listening to the show.

1410
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: And also, um, I got on direct TV, I got

1411
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: the NFL network on, and I was just and I

1412
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: was just trying to get boy as any way we

1413
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: can get back up in the mix with all these

1414
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: trades and all these things. But you answered that question,

1415
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: we would have to give up two next year, And

1416
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, John. That's the thing, John,

1417
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: I can I can get you all the rest of

1418
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 1: the picks. If I could have got a little brow

1419
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: Ford or somebody, man, I would have gave up all

1420
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: the rest of the picks and we would have went on.

1421
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: I understand. Just remember something. Nobody's giving you anything for free.

1422
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: You do have to pay for it. Yeah, I'm saying

1423
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: I would have. I would have gave up all the

1424
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: rest of the pigs that we have the rest of

1425
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: the year just to get back up in the second round. Uh,

1426
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 1: to get one because there's some people flying off the board.

1427
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: My second question is, Um, is there any way, UM

1428
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: next year, if we don't get a pass rusher, who's

1429
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 1: going to be available in free agency? If you could

1430
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 1: find out, I will have I will have to look

1431
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: that up. I don't know it off the top of

1432
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: my head. To be honest with you, I will try

1433
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: to effort that. I will say this, to be honest,

1434
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: to talk about potential free agents after the two thousand

1435
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: nineteen season at this juncture is so premature, not even hard.

1436
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make any sense because the truth of

1437
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: the matter is, you've got a whole summer to go,

1438
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 1: plus then you've got a season. Then you gotta worry

1439
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: about tags. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense

1440
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: because I will saying, if we if we can get

1441
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: by UM. I was on Chat sports and right now

1442
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: they're projecting the Giants to have about nine million dollars

1443
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 1: in cap space next year. UM. I don't know about

1444
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 1: all the other um and and everything, but here's what

1445
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: I do know. Because of the contracts that aren't coming

1446
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: off the books, they will be in much better shape

1447
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: salary cap wise. To even think about numbers against so

1448
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: many things can happen. We don't even know if all

1449
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: of a sudden, over the course of the summer, some

1450
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: big name veterans may wind up being cap casualties or

1451
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 1: injury casualties, and then hey, guess what, there's a big

1452
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: ticket free agent you want to sign that changes the

1453
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 1: whole complexion of your number. It just too many variable

1454
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: by If we don't get Elite Pass for Usher this

1455
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,919
Speaker 1: year and we can somehow during the season score some points,

1456
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: maybe get eight and eight and possibly make the first

1457
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: round to play God God hope willingly and try to

1458
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: get a pass for us for next year when we

1459
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: have all that cap space um on the board. It's possible.

1460
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: It's possible. I mean, I just I was just trying

1461
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: to see if we can do something. But you answered

1462
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 1: my questions. Uh. I just wish we could get back

1463
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: up into the second round. Man, I didn't think we

1464
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: feel we're sitting here taking all these calls and we

1465
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 1: got no plack to talk about. I don't even know

1466
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 1: if we pick God the way they're the way, they're

1467
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: just picking off people and I'm seeing like, like, um, Miami, Indiana, Minnesota, Tennessee,

1468
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: Cincinnati got a pick, Dallas got to pick. I'm like, man,

1469
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: you know you don't want but to be fair, to

1470
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: be fair, because I know Dave Gentleman's board is now

1471
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 1: just being checked off. Like oh and by the way,

1472
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, the only person that's in more pain

1473
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: than us watching this is Dave Gentleman. He's pulling his

1474
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 1: hair out way. Oh my god, could you get to

1475
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 1: nine already? Just just remember this. Thanks the Dallas Cowboys

1476
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: fans hold on the Dallas Cowboys fans how to watch

1477
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: the whole first round up? No, No, I don't think

1478
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And thanks for the Paul, because

1479
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: I think they're really happy with DeAndre Baker and two

1480
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: more cornerbacks by the way gone Joan Williams and Gritty Williams.

1481
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: And the polls point Dallas picks at fifty eight and

1482
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: they have not picked the pick yet and they're still

1483
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: three picks away. You have to understand that. You know,

1484
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: they made that deal for Mari Cooper, who, by the way,

1485
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: produced for them down the stretch. I'm sure they're very

1486
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: happy with a Mari Cooper, much better than anybody anticipated.

1487
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: But guess what, there's a cost the price you pay.

1488
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: And now you're Dallas fan, maybe you didn't even watch

1489
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: the draft last night. I mean I don't all and

1490
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 1: our buddy Brian broad Us actually believe it or not.

1491
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: On Dallas Cowboys dot Com did a show last night

1492
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 1: with Dame Brugler, two of our guys. They did the

1493
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:01,679
Speaker 1: first round live, but they'll pick wow with three and

1494
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: that's tough. And they did it together with Dave Hellman

1495
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: and they hosted live and I was texting with with

1496
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: behind this morning actually, and he goes, yeah, that wasn't

1497
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: as much fun as I thought it was gonna be.

1498
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, you know, as as our glass

1499
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 1: Carl was was lamenting that gap in picks. You had

1500
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: three first rounders last night. Yeah, I mean, you know,

1501
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 1: first time a Giants history. It was almost disappointing. The

1502
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,560
Speaker 1: third one you were so like out of energy and

1503
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: it was but I wish it was the first pick today. Okay,

1504
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: I could use some adrenaline to start day two. You

1505
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I never need adrenaline, sadly, that's true.

1506
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: It's all presented you by Coors Light. That's pulled the

1507
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: Tino's adrenaline. That is download pulled the Tino's adrenaline. I

1508
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: mean calls Cores Light Awards after doing amazing giant prizes.

1509
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: I think that would I think that would be a

1510
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: controlled substance. Pauled a Tino adrenaline. It would definitely be

1511
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: banned in the major sports. You you you never heard

1512
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: I was. I was taking to a lab and test it.

1513
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: And that's how five Hour Energy came up with their formats.

1514
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: I mentioned Joe on Williams to the Patriots, which was

1515
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: a much rumored pick. The cornerback out of Vanderbilt and

1516
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: Cleveland then gets Greedy Williams put him across in Denzel Ward.

1517
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: Those are two guys that can cover man, Yes, but

1518
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: I do think people will try to run at the edges. Well,

1519
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 1: I mean, look at this one, two, three, four or

1520
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: five six. Would you have been surprised if I told

1521
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 1: you Greedy Williams was the seventh cornerback selected seventh at

1522
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: the top five. Look, I know he doesn't want to tackle.

1523
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: I get it. But seven seven it's low. It's low.

1524
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: But he's not the kind of corner that I actually prefer.

1525
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: I understand that. But seventh tomato, tomato, catchup, catchup, you

1526
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 1: get it, sauce gravy. There you go too? Oh nine

1527
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 1: four or five? One three? Seattle is about to make

1528
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: their selection. As soon as they do, it looks like

1529
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: they're having a special guest to it. That's gonna take

1530
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 1: a minutes. I'm gonna go to a caller instead. Let's

1531
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: go to our buddy, Neil and Duchess County, New York.

1532
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 1: He's up next. Hey Neil, how are you pal? Hello, gentlemen,

1533
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: how are you We're great, Neil, what's up long days

1534
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: for you? Huh? Tomorrow is another one and then Sunday

1535
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: we rest well, good, we'll meet the rest um. I

1536
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: hate to be negative, but it's hard not to be negative.

1537
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 1: That's fine, Neil. Whatever your opinion is is all good.

1538
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: Laying on us, all right. How it's just been touched

1539
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: on a couple. I agree about the adrenaline. You know,

1540
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 1: it's like it would have been nice to have a

1541
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 1: pick to kick off. Yeah today, I'm okay. I mean,

1542
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm a Georgia Bulldogs fan, so I love. I've watched Baker,

1543
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, the last couple of years. He is a

1544
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: game player. He is great. I don't care about the

1545
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: measurables or allows he comby. That was a great pick.

1546
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,640
Speaker 1: Here's some good news for you. It is pro day.

1547
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: He did he ups four or five he got to

1548
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: I could believe it's four or five two with the

1549
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: combine in four or five at the pro I read

1550
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: his Pro Day. Maybe it's an unofficial timing. I read four,

1551
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: uh four four eight four or four? Who always hasn't

1552
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: Dan Burglar? Let's see what Dane hasn't this guy? You know?

1553
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 1: I saw four five two or four. But I mean

1554
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: I watched, you know, like I watched Johns religiously, and

1555
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 1: you love him. He's one of the guys you're gonna love,

1556
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: you know. Um. But my the negative part of this is, um,

1557
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm on the Titanic. We had the

1558
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: better opportunity. We got it worked out. We had we

1559
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: had two things going three picks in the first round,

1560
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: and the board fell our way. Okay, that combination should

1561
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: have yielded better results. And I know my happy meter

1562
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: is not very high. It's not L Jones now, But

1563
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 1: Neil c you, Neil, you don't know that. I know, seriously, Neil,

1564
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,759
Speaker 1: and and and I know I know what you're saying,

1565
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: but I'm want to give you a scenario here. Okay,

1566
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 1: First of all, I talked to a couple of people

1567
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: around the league that are convinced that Jones would not

1568
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 1: have been there at seventeen. I don't know if that's

1569
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 1: true or not. Neither do United to the Giants, but

1570
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: there was certainly a chance he wasn't gonna be there. Okay,

1571
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: we can agree on that because we can't predict the future.

1572
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: Number two, and and this is the larger point. Let's

1573
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: say the Giants don't pick Daniel Jones at six, okay,

1574
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: and he gets picked by the Cincinnati Bengals at twelve

1575
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 1: or you know something like that. Okay, whatever, he gets

1576
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: picked at twelve, and the Giants don't get him at seventeen,

1577
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: and four years from now, he's making his third straight

1578
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl and he's in the a f C Championship Game.

1579
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 1: You're gonna be sitting there. I can't believe we didn't

1580
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 1: go up and get our quarterback, because Daniel Jones is awesome.

1581
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: If he turns out to be really good, you cannot

1582
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: select him too high. So the bottom line is that

1583
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: all that matters at this point is whether or not

1584
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: the kids good. If the kid turns out to be

1585
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: really good, it's a good thing. It's not my job

1586
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: on the line, you know. After this, to sure, and

1587
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: I felt terrible for Pat Sherman sitting next to uh

1588
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 1: Galman in that little press conference when she says, oh,

1589
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: just through the green band plan, you never know, and

1590
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: Sherman looked like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?

1591
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 1: And you're comparing Daniel Jones, Aaron Rodgers, and e I

1592
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: at this stage to no, no, no, no. I don't.

1593
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the point of that of that

1594
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: conversation all And that's why people made the mistake of

1595
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Plan. Well, it's not the Kansas City

1596
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: Plan because they don't have Patrick Mahomes. The players aren't

1597
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: the point. It's how long the quarterback sits. That's the

1598
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 1: only point of reference. They're not the quality of the players.

1599
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: No one's arguing Daniel Jones is Aaron Rodgers. Of course

1600
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: positive because I am a positive guy. You know, Um,

1601
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 1: there's a there's an offensive tackle that shouldn't be available

1602
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: at a believe or not trade Pitkins. You have him

1603
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 1: on your list. Let me take a look at it.

1604
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: If I if I did some work up on him.

1605
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: I don't remember the name very well, but I'll take

1606
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: a quick glance. And by the way, I did not

1607
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: watch him myself, but I can tell you where Brugler

1608
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: has him. Let's see, do do do do do do oh.

1609
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: I did not look at him. You said he's a center. No,

1610
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: he's an offensive tackle. I don't. I didn't. I didn't

1611
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: look at him. Dame Brugler has him. Let's see, he

1612
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: looks at everybody, Sue falls. He has him as his

1613
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 1: eleventh ranked offensive tackle and a fourth round pick, red

1614
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 1: shirt senior, six six three oh nine. So he's someone

1615
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 1: that Brugler does like as an early day three pick.

1616
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe I haven't watched a lot of football

1617
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: and the kids good, you know. Um, please let's address

1618
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:10,440
Speaker 1: some needs. I mean, I know we needed a cornerback desperately,

1619
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, but I mean I haven't looked at the

1620
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: pass rushers. I just said, let me find something. There's

1621
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 1: another kid out of South Carolina that's pretty good, you know,

1622
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 1: um that I could live with. Also, I think his

1623
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: name is Daily, Um, you know him, the kid out

1624
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: of South Carolina. Another tackle I don't remember. His daily

1625
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: fourth round pick six five, three seventeen, also on the

1626
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 1: fourth round type of players, so he could be in

1627
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 1: the mix their end of the round three beginning around four. Alright,

1628
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 1: let's let's hope, you know, let's patch this tight tank

1629
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 1: because I mean, like I said, I don't mind the picks,

1630
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: but I really like that kid out of Kentucky. I'm

1631
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: sure you guys did. No, dude, we love them. I mean,

1632
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 1: if if you listen to the show on on Thursday

1633
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 1: afternoon and he was if he was there, we were

1634
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 1: all gonna pick him. I mean and and we none

1635
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 1: of us were even gonna I have a question about it.

1636
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 1: I purposely did not make him available on Thursday. Yeah,

1637
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: I definitely did. And uh and if you watch the

1638
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 1: MSG show Thursday night, by the way, everyone on that

1639
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: panel wanted to take that one too. So look, the

1640
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 1: Giants have Daniel Jones rank is that good of a

1641
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: player and that's why they picked him. We'll find out

1642
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: whether or not there right well, because honestly, if you

1643
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 1: really look at an El, I didn't play bad down

1644
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 1: the stretch at all last year. Yeah, but he's not

1645
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 1: gonna play forever either. And you can't what happens at

1646
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: the end of every NFL game when the teams behind

1647
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: you stacked the corner box. Sure passing situation, Neil, no

1648
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: question about And thanks for the call, Neil, just as

1649
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: you as you hang up there, I have to address

1650
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 1: pass firsts. No one's arguing. No, no, I did actually

1651
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: do some video on Daily and I had him down

1652
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: as questions on his hand usage and his leverage. What

1653
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: around you have him in? I don't. I don't project round.

1654
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,759
Speaker 1: I just I just write characteristics that I saw um

1655
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 1: And you know, leverage for an offensive tackle can be painful.

1656
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta have that kind of important ye

1657
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: kind of have that. So yeah, he'd he'd beat, he'd

1658
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 1: be down a ways. But hey, you can always help

1659
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 1: him out. That's what coaches are for. Saints help out

1660
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Eric McCoy center out of Texas A and M.

1661
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: He's the third best center. There's only one other I

1662
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 1: think plug in place center less Connor mcgovernor at a

1663
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 1: Penn State if you want to go in that direction.

1664
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 1: But but but the top three year gone now Jenkins, McCoy,

1665
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: and Bradberry who went in round number one. The Colts

1666
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: pick is in Reggie Wayne's back at the podium. He

1667
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: guys got like that like CBS style jack with a

1668
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: little horseshoe on the left lapel as he announced his

1669
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: pick number forty nine. The Colt got this pick. Uh.

1670
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 1: They traded back with the brown so the Browns could

1671
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 1: trade up and select Reedy Williams. Ben Banogu out of

1672
01:26:56,200 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 1: TCU defensive end goes to the Indianapolis Colt. It's a

1673
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: little high for him. I thought that Benego would be

1674
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 1: a potential draftee for the Giants. Late in the third round.

1675
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 1: I thought literally for him, right, I thought he would

1676
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: be there. He has some very sharp explosiveness off the edge.

1677
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 1: He clearly is a pass swash. He's an undersized defensive

1678
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: end who you would ask to play outside linebacker in

1679
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 1: your three four. There would be questions about his coverage

1680
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 1: ability without a doubt, and I think, well, that's the thing.

1681
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: Not a great athlete, um, but you simply say line

1682
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: him up on the edge and have him go after

1683
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: the quarterback in sub packages. He definitely could help put

1684
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: pressure onto QB. I really really thought there was a

1685
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: legit shot that he'd be there for the Giants late

1686
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 1: in round three. But here he is gone in the

1687
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: middle of round two. That's a shame. I did have

1688
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: him on my my potential radar list. All right, folks,

1689
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. It's a thirty. I promised

1690
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: you dexter Lawrence at a thirty. I'm gonna give him

1691
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: to you. Uh, then we're gonna come back. I got

1692
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: four people on hold, hang out, chill out, go get

1693
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 1: a go, get a coffee, maybe a soda, get a snack,

1694
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 1: go walk your dog maybe if if, if you want

1695
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: to do that, whatever, whatever, whatever you like, and we'll

1696
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: be back taking your calls another ten or fifteen minutes.

1697
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 1: We'll take the four people on the line. They're gonna

1698
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: have Tony Pauline from Draft Analyst dot Com join us

1699
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:24,600
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock, So stay tuned with that. Want to

1700
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: update it again. The Vikings pick is now in at fifty. Uh.

1701
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 1: Just go through a really quick I'll run them down

1702
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: again just so everyone knows who's gone off the board today.

1703
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy to Arizona Rocky is Sin Juwan Taylor the

1704
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 1: offensive tackle from Florida. Deebo Samuel, wide receiver from South Carolina,

1705
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:45,520
Speaker 1: Greg Little ot or miss Cody Ford offensive line Oklahoma.

1706
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: Some people think guards, some people think tackle. Showan Bunting

1707
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: the very toolsy corner at of Central Michigan, uh Trey

1708
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 1: Vian Mullen, the cornerback at a Clemson Dalton Reisner offensive

1709
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 1: lineman from Kansas State to the Broncos, and then double

1710
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 1: up and pick Drew Lock at a Missouri Detroit select.

1711
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 1: Lonny Tavai linebacker out of Hawaii Green Bay. Elgin Jenkins

1712
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:12,440
Speaker 1: center out of Mississippi State Patriots. Joan Williams cornerback at A, Vanderbilt,

1713
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 1: Gritty Williams, cornerback L s U, Marquis Blair, safety Utah,

1714
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,440
Speaker 1: Eric mccordy, the Saints Center, Texas A and M Ben Binogu.

1715
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: Is that how it is bound? Thank you? Defensive end

1716
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: out of actually printed out the pronunciation sheet. I'm not

1717
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: sure if I brought it in here. Defensive end out

1718
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:33,719
Speaker 1: of TCU and the Vikings pick is in. One surprise, Paul,

1719
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: before we get to the interview, what do you got

1720
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 1: only one wide receiver so far? I'm not that surprised.

1721
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: I think it's so thick people are waiting on it.

1722
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 1: I think there are plenty of make it receivers who

1723
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 1: you can get in the third and fourth rounds. Wait,

1724
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 1: will we could? Do you agree with me? I BBK.

1725
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 1: On the other day you said that's the spot. You

1726
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: said that I thought it would start going in around

1727
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: two though, I'll tell you, and I thought we'd have

1728
01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: more safeties going here, Paul. No nice here at A yet,

1729
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 1: No one Thornhill yet. Two very good players Amani Hooker,

1730
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 1: another good player from Iowa, is still on the board.

1731
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:13,719
Speaker 1: Um Abraham's gone right, he got picked in the first round.

1732
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 1: March Blair has gone and Donald Savage has gone. Those

1733
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 1: are the three safeties that are off the board, if

1734
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. So um, that's what we got and

1735
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 1: we'll continue taking your calls again. At two five, one three,

1736
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 1: IRV Smith Jr. Goes to the Minnesota Vikings, and I

1737
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 1: heard a rumor that maybe they might be looking to

1738
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 1: move on from Kyle Rudolph in a trade to save

1739
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 1: salary cap rooms there right up against the cap. So

1740
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: maybe this opens up the possibility of them moving Kyle

1741
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: Rudolph in one rumor destination I heard for that might

1742
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 1: be the New England Patriots to replace Rob Gronkowski. So

1743
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,640
Speaker 1: IRV Smith kind of like he wants me to Chris

1744
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 1: Coolie a little bit the way he plays. He kind

1745
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: of a little stouter guy, you know, motions in the backfield,

1746
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 1: things like that. But IRV Smith out of Alabama board

1747
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: goes to the Vikings. Yes, the first two off the

1748
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:02,959
Speaker 1: board where the two Iowa tight ends t. J. Hockenson

1749
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: and no offense. So we'll keep an eyeing that as

1750
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: we move forward. But for now we have a chance

1751
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:11,959
Speaker 1: to talk to the Giants second first round pick seventeen overall,

1752
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: and now we're joined by Dexter Lawrence the giants second

1753
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 1: first round pick. It's seventeen overall defensive tackle from Clemson Dexter.

1754
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: You got John H. Melcin Platino here in the Giants

1755
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: practice facility in East Rutherford, New Jersey. Good anything, How

1756
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 1: are you? I'm good? I'm great right now, absolutely, And

1757
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna see in a few days and we get

1758
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 1: to see ply your trade. But we saw you walking

1759
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 1: around the practice facility here about three or four weeks ago,

1760
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 1: and you're a large fellow. And I mean that in

1761
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 1: the most complimentary way possible. Absolutely. Um, let's go here first.

1762
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 1: As a football player right now, what do you think

1763
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 1: is your greatest strength and where are you still trying

1764
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 1: to make the biggest improvement? Um, I definitely say my

1765
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 1: greatest strength is house. John. I am in physical and

1766
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: very smart, uh and um, you know, very instinctive football

1767
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 1: player in areas that I know I have to improve on.

1768
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 1: You know that I became more conscious to this offseason

1769
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: was um, being a lot more active on in my

1770
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 1: past rush and um, you know, keeping the pressure on

1771
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,600
Speaker 1: on the guard or the center taco when I have

1772
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 1: it and finishing it. The extra I've seen various listings

1773
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 1: that have you between three forty and three fifty. Where

1774
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,799
Speaker 1: do you plan on playing at in the National Football

1775
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 1: League Because obviously we've also heard that for your size,

1776
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 1: you have tremendous athleticism, and I've seen the tape and

1777
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 1: you move very well for a big guy. In fact,

1778
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,680
Speaker 1: I've even heard that you could even dug a basketball.

1779
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: Is that true? Oh yeah, two hands? Oh nice, that's amazing.

1780
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 1: That's amazing to me. So, so, where do you think

1781
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 1: the best weight's gonna be for you when you get

1782
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 1: to the NFL? Knowing that you know what, stamina could

1783
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 1: be an issue, because my goodness, you're gonna be going

1784
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 1: up against the guys who are gonna be bringing it

1785
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 1: at a D on every play. Oh yeah, that's all

1786
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm ready for. But um, you know, my throw in

1787
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 1: the league is to, you know, first of all, get

1788
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 1: my body fat down to you know, a lower percentage

1789
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 1: and and my plan weight. So that would bring my

1790
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:25,719
Speaker 1: plan weight down to about three. I want to play

1791
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 1: in between three thirty seven and three for something something

1792
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 1: in between. Their consistent in between there So, but first

1793
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: of all, my first goal is to definitely bring my

1794
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,600
Speaker 1: body right down because I'm a naturally naturally big guy.

1795
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: So and you know I have much fat or anything

1796
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 1: to lose, so, you know, just I feel like if

1797
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to guys kind of almost being sick,

1798
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 1: and you know that's just that's just my first goal.

1799
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: But just don't lose too much weight now, because the

1800
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 1: double team could be a little bit more difficult if

1801
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 1: you become as thin as a pencil. You know, No,

1802
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about that, Dexter. It's funny. At the

1803
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: press conference after you got picked, Dave got Onoman and

1804
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 1: Pat Shermer talk about one to play either at the

1805
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 1: one of the three or the five because of your

1806
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 1: strength and be like Paul mentioned, you can move really well.

1807
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: And then I went and I took another look at

1808
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:24,600
Speaker 1: your tape at Clemson, and what do I see it?

1809
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 1: I see it at the one, I see it at

1810
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: the one shade. I see you right right in those tackle.

1811
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 1: I see you playing the three technique. How much do

1812
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,799
Speaker 1: you think that helped you get ready for the NFL?

1813
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: The way Clemson shifted you guys and played you all

1814
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 1: over that defensive line right um comes in definitely blessed me,

1815
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, were they for me? To show all my skills.

1816
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: You know, it was a very multiple defense. So like

1817
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: you said, I was in a zero or one or two,

1818
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 1: uh for two or five. You know, just showing that

1819
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 1: I can play all those physicians and look naturally, look

1820
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:00,040
Speaker 1: natural doing it, and look comfortable doing it. And so

1821
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 1: I'll just extremely blessed, you know, just to be able

1822
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,759
Speaker 1: to show that I can play more than just one position.

1823
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 1: Where do you think you're most comfortable right now in

1824
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 1: terms of those spots dexter and where do you think

1825
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 1: you'd be best to up that pass rush game, which

1826
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 1: is what you talked about for Paul's first answer. Um,

1827
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 1: I definitely feel comfortable plan either one of those physicians. Uh,

1828
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's just coming not your defensive tackle.

1829
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 1: I mean that's my initials D L D line. So

1830
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, so that just you know, just what this

1831
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 1: is what I do kind of thing and in my

1832
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: pastors is just going to come. You know, I didn't

1833
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 1: have I didn't show it, but I have it. I'm

1834
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 1: not I have it. I'm gonna show. I'm sure the world.

1835
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 1: You know you played on an outstanding defensive line with

1836
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 1: the Tigers. Do you believe that that type of friendly

1837
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: robbalry and competition maybe between your teammates helped all of

1838
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: you guys to maximize your potential as you were coming

1839
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 1: into the pros. Oh, definitely the competition, the competitive as

1840
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 1: betweening all of us, you know, just just drove us

1841
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 1: every day to become the greatest and you know, just

1842
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 1: just display who we really was playing and play out

1843
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 1: and we all we all were fighting to make that

1844
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 1: play and you know, and a lot of guys like

1845
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 1: you saw three all three of us went in the

1846
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 1: first and hopefully as uh the fourth front in the

1847
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 1: first from going to second. So you know, it was

1848
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 1: just a whole bunch of a whole bunch of comparative people,

1849
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 1: but genuine love for each other that you know, just

1850
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 1: pushed you pushed each other every day and to become

1851
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 1: our best. We should mention Wilkins and Feral, the two

1852
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 1: other guys from Clemson who went to the first round

1853
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 1: off that line absolutely um dexter. I was talking one

1854
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 1: of the scouts here and they said, John, you gotta

1855
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 1: look at this kid's freshman tape because he finished at

1856
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 1: the quarterback and he was racking up sacked like there

1857
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 1: was no tomorrow. And then you had the injury, Dexter,

1858
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 1: can you just explain to people how serious that injuries? People?

1859
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 1: They are all broken fifth Metamarcel, big deal, but there

1860
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 1: were some complications there and that really set you back

1861
01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 1: for a good year and a half. Right, Yeah, So, um,

1862
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 1: I got the surgery on my fifth Merry Talk show.

1863
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 1: That had held over time like that was going at

1864
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 1: the normal way to healing. But when I got the surgery,

1865
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: they did the nerve block in the back of my leg,

1866
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 1: and the nerve block had irritated my leg, like my

1867
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 1: high calf most and down. So for a year and

1868
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 1: a half, I can't do a toe raise like so

1869
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 1: that the whole two thousand and sevent team season, I

1870
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 1: was really playing on one leg kind of deal. And

1871
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 1: you know that was that was really tough because you know,

1872
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 1: the doctor was asking me while I was playing, you know,

1873
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 1: I just love the game, not to play it and

1874
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 1: leave my brothers out there. And I felt like I

1875
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 1: could when I was at my best on that one leg.

1876
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 1: It was it wasn't that bad. But um, you know,

1877
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 1: it's just it's just it's who I was. You know,

1878
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: I'm very unselfish guy, and you know there's that that

1879
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 1: injury kind of helped. It kind of helped me in

1880
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 1: the long run because it helped me focus on the

1881
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 1: little things that I didn't quite have my freshman year,

1882
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 1: like being more smarter reading blocks, you know, using my

1883
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,679
Speaker 1: hands a lot more, you know, focusing on a little

1884
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 1: nuances in my game that I feel like I need

1885
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 1: that my watch tape that I need to work on.

1886
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 1: So in the long run, it's the injury was hard,

1887
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 1: but also my my mom says, also, what am I

1888
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 1: learning from this? You know what I need to take

1889
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 1: from this? When did you finally start feeling like yourself?

1890
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 1: Just real quick, tell you something about myself? No? No, no,

1891
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 1: When did you start feeling like yourself again after the injury? Um? Well,

1892
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 1: I had games, my feeling was able to do a

1893
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:42,599
Speaker 1: toy race probably about July, right before fall camp. Yeah,

1894
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 1: right before fall campuses I was in the eighteen and

1895
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:47,679
Speaker 1: um so fall camp, I was still trying to feel

1896
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 1: my way through it, you know, trying to get make

1897
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:52,839
Speaker 1: it through the practices. The first half of the season,

1898
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 1: I was kind of I had I had everything. I

1899
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:58,640
Speaker 1: had my strengths, I had my range of motion. I

1900
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 1: just didn't have my confidence, you know, in that one

1901
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 1: leg so the first half of the season, it was

1902
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 1: a little slow for me. But we had about a

1903
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 1: week I just sat down and talk to myself and

1904
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, I just tell himself, like, you gotta get

1905
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 1: your mind right, like you got both of your you

1906
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 1: got both of your legs, now use it. You know,

1907
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 1: you know how you played with one leg. Let's get

1908
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 1: back to what how you look with two legs. And

1909
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm second half of the season, I say, that's when

1910
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 1: I really got my confidence back in um, you know,

1911
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 1: just blowing and going, you know, Dexter. It was it

1912
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 1: was only a few years ago that that big, oversized

1913
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:37,559
Speaker 1: defensive tackles weren't getting a lot of hype. But then

1914
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, the Sean Rodgers came along, and Dominican Sue

1915
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: came along. Snacks Harrison, who I'm sure you know a

1916
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 1: lot about play with the Giants, got a lot of accolades,

1917
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 1: and people started to say, you know what, those big

1918
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:53,440
Speaker 1: guys just aren't big guys. Those guys are really important

1919
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 1: football players who have a lot of skills and can

1920
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 1: be as important as anybody else on the defense. How

1921
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 1: do that make you feel, as someone who is in

1922
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 1: that mold now coming into the league knowing that Hey,

1923
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,799
Speaker 1: you know what, that's that's a big deal now, guys

1924
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 1: have paid the way for people like me. Right, No,

1925
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 1: that's definitely. And my thing is, you know, be better

1926
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 1: than that, you know, always making it, always being better

1927
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 1: than what the standard is. Um, you know, being the

1928
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 1: best version of myself and my limit is through the

1929
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:29,640
Speaker 1: scribe roof and um, you know that's my plan on

1930
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 1: just you know, just coming to the NFL, just just

1931
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 1: using everything and exploring everything you know and becoming the

1932
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 1: truth defroms tackle that I know I can be. What

1933
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 1: were some of the things you talked about with James

1934
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:42,600
Speaker 1: Betcher on your visit here in terms of how he

1935
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 1: wants to deploy you out there on the field. Oh uh,

1936
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, just like just playing, just playing all the

1937
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 1: d tackles, the five, the one in the three and

1938
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 1: you know, and just being dominated at it, and you know,

1939
01:40:56,680 --> 01:41:00,639
Speaker 1: just showcasing, you know, just my skill and my work

1940
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 1: ethic and you know, my heart and things like that.

1941
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 1: Just to come in and be ready the final one

1942
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 1: from me, Dexter, You're coming here to the big Apple,

1943
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 1: the bright lights of the big City, New York as

1944
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 1: one of three first round draft picks. The Giants had

1945
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna be looking at you

1946
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 1: every snap. I gotta hunch though, that playing at Clemson. Uh,

1947
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 1: pressure is not a big deal for you, right, not

1948
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 1: Sory not. I mean I had pressure on me since

1949
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 1: high school. You know, I came out of high school.

1950
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,720
Speaker 1: I talked ray to guy and you know, now I'm

1951
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 1: coming out of Clemson the top rate to Guy. So

1952
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 1: it's just it's I mean, it's just there comes from

1953
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, exposing them to a lot of lights, you know,

1954
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 1: and a lot of you know, a lot of pressure.

1955
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 1: So I just say, I don't really feel pressure. My

1956
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: mom said is always to prove is to prove myself,

1957
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, approve who I really am, and and just

1958
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 1: go and and just ball be that football player as

1959
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 1: you know you can be, and you know, don't let

1960
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 1: anything in any way. My thing is only only I

1961
01:41:56,880 --> 01:42:00,320
Speaker 1: can stop myself. Final one for me, Dex. You'll be

1962
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 1: joining some friendly foes here. You're very familiar with b. J. Hill,

1963
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 1: you guys played them, you know wenc State. You're very

1964
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 1: familiar with Dalvin Thomas, and you know you played Alabama.

1965
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 1: So how do you feel about facing these guys that

1966
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 1: used to be your enemies at the college level. Man.

1967
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:16,639
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, that's a that's a great feeling because

1968
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, we have that pride relationship,

1969
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 1: so you know, the energy in the room is going

1970
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:24,720
Speaker 1: to be there already, and um, you know, just you know,

1971
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:27,599
Speaker 1: my goal is just to challenge you know, every every

1972
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 1: day Chaco in the room, every us to be the

1973
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 1: greatest in the world. And um, you know, let's go out,

1974
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 1: go out to practice every day and prove it, you

1975
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 1: know off the field. That's proven in the front room,

1976
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:38,559
Speaker 1: you know, and let's and let's just do it. Why

1977
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 1: not us? I got a big I got a big

1978
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:43,839
Speaker 1: scoop for you, John. If Goldman goes out with Lawrence

1979
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 1: for dinner, Goldman's not picking up the tab alright, Dexter,

1980
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 1: that's not happening. Thank you, Dexter. You have a good

1981
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you, congratulations again, and we'll talk to

1982
01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:59,640
Speaker 1: you soon well and we look forward to seeing you

1983
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 1: on for he went not rookie mini camp starts. That's

1984
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 1: Clemson defensive tackle, Dexter. Lawrence is a fun guy. I

1985
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 1: mean you get to something like a big, happy big

1986
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 1: guy and he's just a happy, big guy. That's what

1987
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:14,640
Speaker 1: It is laugh very jovial is the word that I

1988
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 1: would use. Oh, the Philadelphia Eagles trying to match State

1989
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 1: Kwonbacley with their own Penn State running back Miles Sanders

1990
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 1: out of Penn State, staying in state, and he goes

1991
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 1: to the Philadelphia Eagles. While you were gone. We had

1992
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 1: a couple other picks as well. A J. Brown goes

1993
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 1: to the Titans. They get a uh Corey Davis running

1994
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 1: partner outside and then the Bengals go tight end. They's

1995
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 1: like Drew Sample out of Washington. Interesting thing about Miles Sanders,

1996
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 1: John Um, you may have seen this if you looked

1997
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 1: at workups on him. I didn't do many running backs

1998
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 1: because need one, but I did do Miles Sanders. And

1999
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 1: the first thing that I wrote down that I had

2000
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:00,800
Speaker 1: a question about was past protection, which is interesting and

2001
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,759
Speaker 1: that se Kwan Barkley was a master at it because

2002
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: he said that the nickney Lyons folks told him, you're

2003
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:08,639
Speaker 1: gonna need the site the NFL, make sure you get

2004
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 1: it down now, and he was encouraged to do it

2005
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 1: and did it well. For some reason, that's not the

2006
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 1: case with Miles Sanders. He also had three years to

2007
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 1: figure it out. That is true, Sand, there's only one

2008
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 1: because he was too sitting sake. Yes, all right, two

2009
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 1: oh one, four, five on three. Let's go to Justin

2010
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:33,760
Speaker 1: in the Hawaii next. Justin, what's up? How's it going, guys?

2011
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 1: Hi from Hawaii, my friend. I'm on the island of Along,

2012
01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 1: but I'm a Jersey boy. Well, thank you so much

2013
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:49,720
Speaker 1: for for calling home. We appreciate it. No, I've been

2014
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 1: a giant, Sand, I blow your mind a little bit here,

2015
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,599
Speaker 1: but this one. Giants beat the Bills in the Super Bowl.

2016
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 1: I jump off the coffee table at two years old

2017
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 1: and break my arm. I've been a giant and that

2018
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:06,600
Speaker 1: long ouch. Well, I hope the arm feels better these days.

2019
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:09,640
Speaker 1: Years later. I'm doing all right. Good for you. I

2020
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 1: just wanted to call in quick and give my two

2021
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 1: cents for what it's worth on the draft so far.

2022
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 1: The Giants posted some videos I was watching on YouTube,

2023
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 1: and I went down and read the comments, and you know,

2024
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 1: people are freaking out. They're they're bad mouth and get

2025
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 1: them in their bad mouth, and you know, the organization.

2026
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm done with this organization. And and we're the lasting

2027
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 1: stock of the organization, you know. And and we've seen

2028
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 1: that they pretty much everybody wrote us off in two

2029
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,320
Speaker 1: thousand seven and two thousand eleven when we won the

2030
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So you know, I don't get it. I

2031
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 1: don't have too much of an opinion so far on

2032
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 1: the PIS. UM. I will say I did like Dwayne Haskins, UM,

2033
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 1: but I think Daniel Jones is going to do great

2034
01:45:55,200 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 1: for us, especially with the ELI connection for sure. UM.

2035
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:02,959
Speaker 1: The other thing I'll say is, as soon as Gentleman

2036
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 1: was introduces the GM, I sall in love with him. Um.

2037
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 1: I think he's a great guy. And whatever him and

2038
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 1: Mr Mara and Mr Tish and the rest of the

2039
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 1: war room do. I totally back at hey. Look, and

2040
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this too, and and I appreciate the call.

2041
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 1: Justin good stuff, and thank you and and happy to

2042
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 1: hear from you from Hawaii. Hopefully gets some pin send

2043
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 1: some fresh pineapples always there is there is, there is

2044
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 1: nothing better. And uh again, thanks for the call, justin

2045
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 1: appreciate it. There's nothing You're welcome. There is nothing better

2046
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 1: than first pineapples from Hawaii. My wife's family goes through

2047
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 1: every February and they send the creep back eight of them.

2048
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 1: I gotta disagree. I gotta disagree a little bit. Talk

2049
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,599
Speaker 1: to me. Why the other side of the other side

2050
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 1: of my mother's side of the family's Italian. So I

2051
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 1: gotta go with the canoe. Well, you can have you

2052
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 1: can have a you can have the first pineapple, and

2053
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 1: justin both justin. Honestly, I really thought you were going

2054
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 1: to tell me you missed the New York area pizza.

2055
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 1: Well that's fine too. Here's what you do. You have

2056
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 1: a little pizza for dinner, you get the canoe for dessert,

2057
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 1: and then you get the refreshing pineapple to close out

2058
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 1: your palet. Okay that some people have pineapple on pizza,

2059
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 1: but I think that's criminal. Shall we continue? I imagine

2060
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 1: you're very strict with what you're allowed to have on

2061
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:32,799
Speaker 1: your pizzas. I could go for meat ball meatball pizzas, okay,

2062
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 1: otherwise it's straight up or extra cheese. See, like I said,

2063
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 1: I imagine fall it's probably very strict. Not even some sausage.

2064
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 1: No sir, capacola, no sir, Come on, no sir. Oh boy,

2065
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. Charlie in Portland, Maine is

2066
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:52,679
Speaker 1: online for Charlie. We missed you this afternoon. No no

2067
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 1: hold on. Charlie warned me all right via Twitter that

2068
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 1: he'd be calling tonight. Should should I not have gone

2069
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:05,919
Speaker 1: to him? He's got barrels loaded? All right, here we go, Charlie, Charlie,

2070
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 1: Charlie Waite Northern Illinois tackle Max Sharping. You Paul who,

2071
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:14,679
Speaker 1: honest to goodness, some people thought could be a third

2072
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 1: or fourth round tackle, and I do think he would

2073
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 1: have the ability to compete for a starting job. He's

2074
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 1: now off the board to the Houston Texans at pick

2075
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,400
Speaker 1: number fifty five overalls, So that's one less guy. The

2076
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 1: Giants could maybe look at their second tackle of the draft,

2077
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 1: by the way, because they took in the first round

2078
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 1: Titus Howard from Alabama State after the Eagles went ahead

2079
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:36,599
Speaker 1: of them to take Andre Dillard. Now they get another

2080
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 1: tackle and Sharping trying to give port DeShawn Watson some

2081
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 1: protection after he got the you know what, p have

2082
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 1: of a play quarterback for that behind that bad line

2083
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,559
Speaker 1: last year, which, by the way, Charlie means the Texans

2084
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 1: will not be signing free agent William beat the anytime. No, sorry,

2085
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 1: we might have to after this, we might not go ahead,

2086
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 1: right all right? Just go ahead Charlie, what do you

2087
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 1: have for us? That is my fault. We only got

2088
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 1: forty more picks to go, guys, I know, don't revive me.

2089
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:11,680
Speaker 1: Are you going to take us all the way to

2090
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 1: pick Charlie, I'm sure you will. Hey, uh, you know

2091
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 1: one thing that would be really good to watch would

2092
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:24,040
Speaker 1: be Odell against Greedy when they do you know, when

2093
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 1: training camp is kind of cool, well at well first

2094
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:31,600
Speaker 1: of hopefully Adel shows up, but um, you know that'll

2095
01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 1: be L s U on L s U battling right there.

2096
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 1: But I didn't say anything. Yeah. The thing is is

2097
01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 1: like I'm not happy the ways the draft when I

2098
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 1: think we we reached and you know, we gave too

2099
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 1: much up to get back into the first round. I mean,

2100
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 1: we really needed to come out of this draft with

2101
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:52,800
Speaker 1: a pass rusher and we needed to come out with

2102
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 1: a right tackle and right now I don't see that.

2103
01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get a tackle hopefully, but I don't how

2104
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:02,719
Speaker 1: we're going to get a pass rusher. Not It's fair, Charlie.

2105
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 1: And look and look, we we talked about it, and

2106
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:07,599
Speaker 1: I think our three major needs and you know, I'll

2107
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 1: throw in a fourth rom because I think finding a

2108
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 1: quarterback was important, so quarterback, which is a future need,

2109
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 1: not a present need. But the present needs were pass rusher,

2110
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 1: offensive tackle, cornerback. Those are the three big needs to

2111
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:24,760
Speaker 1: me heading into this draft, and right now they've only

2112
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:27,599
Speaker 1: filled one of those three. So you're right. Odds are

2113
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult for them to find a plug

2114
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 1: in play player at both positions. Of that, I don't

2115
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:35,839
Speaker 1: think Paul and I would argue with no, not at all. Hey, Charlie,

2116
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, do you do you do

2117
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 1: you want me to jinx the guys? I have some

2118
01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 1: targeted names, uh for the late third round? Do you

2119
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 1: want me to do it? I'll give them to you,

2120
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:49,639
Speaker 1: but it made jinx them all right now, any other

2121
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 1: team in the NFL that's currently watching the show, get

2122
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 1: off offline now so you don't steal these potential guys

2123
01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,679
Speaker 1: for the Giants. Tackles, the pass rushers for I'm gonna

2124
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:03,439
Speaker 1: give him two right tackles. I've mentioned Isaiah Prince from

2125
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:06,720
Speaker 1: Ohio State already and West Virginia's no I need could

2126
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 1: juice if he's there. I like him who who's Who's

2127
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:12,680
Speaker 1: coming off some injury issues, but I absolutely like his

2128
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 1: talent and he's dropping because of the injury, I'm sure,

2129
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 1: but I would certainly look at him. Now can I

2130
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 1: throw in one more offensive tackles? And I don't know

2131
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 1: what the Giants thing is off the field stuff, because

2132
01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:27,439
Speaker 1: I hear it's a bit a little messy. But Chuma

2133
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 1: Udoga from usc who did really well at the Senior Bowl,

2134
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 1: has really good athletic skills. Again, I don't know what

2135
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 1: their thoughts are off the field, which is why we

2136
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 1: go back to they know a lot more than we do.

2137
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 1: But simply as a player, he would be someone that's

2138
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 1: talented enough to be considered in that area. Agreed and

2139
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:49,760
Speaker 1: independent people told me that would probably not be a

2140
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:53,360
Speaker 1: great idea, Like not giants people, independent people. He is

2141
01:51:53,520 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 1: messy in terms of oh my god, all right, Charlie,

2142
01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:03,959
Speaker 1: I got I got defense now for you. My defensive

2143
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:07,679
Speaker 1: end is Joe Jackson at a Miami who absolutely could

2144
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:10,720
Speaker 1: be there at that spot and and has has had

2145
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 1: some production at a very high level program. I like, Oh,

2146
01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:19,679
Speaker 1: Sean Zimonez from Old Dominion, Thank you John for hijack

2147
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 1: in the pronunciation. He's more of a project, but he's

2148
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,720
Speaker 1: got talent. He absolutely does. He's going on some weight.

2149
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 1: He's he's a little light in the butt. And Chase Winovitch,

2150
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 1: the outside linebacker from Michigan, ain't gonna make it. Who

2151
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 1: by the way, by the way, not great athleticism, not

2152
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:38,600
Speaker 1: great measurable bulls, but he's a blue collar blood and

2153
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 1: guts snot nosed football player. You know what I heard

2154
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 1: the other day listening to Matt Miller on his bleacher

2155
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 1: Report podcast? What's he got? Apparently he might not have

2156
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:52,599
Speaker 1: gotten long the best with his teammates in Michigan. There's

2157
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 1: something that he made a report on this. Well, how

2158
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 1: about that guy? Quite? I know? Yeah, you know we

2159
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 1: at the combine, we heard a lot of nut nice things.

2160
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 1: If he's there end of the third round, though, do

2161
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:11,519
Speaker 1: you think about it? Maybe you do. Anyway, we've given

2162
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:13,839
Speaker 1: you some names, and now everyone else in the NFL

2163
01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:16,679
Speaker 1: knows about those guys. They'll be coming off the board.

2164
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 1: I have a chance to jake some guys to let

2165
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:23,640
Speaker 1: so let me jinx Max Crosby out of Eastern Michigan,

2166
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:26,120
Speaker 1: who I think is a word of a project. But

2167
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:29,639
Speaker 1: he's six five. He ran a four six six forty

2168
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 1: yard dash at the Combine. He's a raw pass rusher,

2169
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 1: with long limbs, but he's built like a three four

2170
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:39,679
Speaker 1: outside linebacker from Eastern Michigan. And if you want bigger guys,

2171
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 1: Anthony Nelson and Zach Allen are two bigger guys you

2172
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,240
Speaker 1: might like. And I'm not a huge fan of the player,

2173
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 1: but if he's sitting there, you gotta consider Jalen Ferginson

2174
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:49,640
Speaker 1: to be sitting there under the third round too. But

2175
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be there. Yeah, I disqualify

2176
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:55,760
Speaker 1: Zack Allen because I think he's second round he'll be gone.

2177
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:57,919
Speaker 1: I great, and I think the same thing for Ferguson.

2178
01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 1: But we're getting down there, you but I would disqualify

2179
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 1: them because I can't see them making it. I think

2180
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 1: you're right, but we've seen straight remember last year, Like

2181
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:07,680
Speaker 1: there's no way to you know, Lorenz was gonna make it.

2182
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 1: In behold there's Lorenz O'Connor. And I will tell you

2183
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:13,719
Speaker 1: I really like Zach Allen as a four three defensive

2184
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:16,759
Speaker 1: van and more of a run stopper than a pass rusher.

2185
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 1: But I love his motor and he's strong John He's

2186
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,760
Speaker 1: a feisty guy who will fight you. I do like

2187
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 1: him as a player. I could see him playing five

2188
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 1: technique in at three four. He's two pounds. He could

2189
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 1: do it. I could see that. But his base I

2190
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 1: think is a four three defense. By the way, Charlie,

2191
01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys everyone has heard about the uh

2192
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 1: legal trouble. I'll use that term for Tyreek Hill up

2193
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Well they well, they just picked a short,

2194
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:46,560
Speaker 1: super fast wide receiver that likes to catch deep passes

2195
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:49,360
Speaker 1: in McCole Hardman out of Georgia. Don't tell me that's

2196
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 1: a coincidence replacement. Hey, hey, have they traded yet? Is

2197
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 1: that happen with Miami. It's not official, Charlie, but the

2198
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 1: apparently they have verbally agreed to the trade if reports

2199
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 1: out there are to be believed, but it has not

2200
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 1: been made official by the league, is my understandance. You know.

2201
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 1: The other thing that we need, we need some line

2202
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 1: back because after Ogletree and Goodson, who do we have really?

2203
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean, something is not great? Uh number what is

2204
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 1: his name? Tie? Hey Davis? Yeah, he's okay, but we

2205
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 1: could really use, you know, some depth. They're so I'm

2206
01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 1: hoping we can find somebody, if not in undrafted free

2207
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 1: agency Towards the end of the right the end of

2208
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 1: the round right now, Charlie. Really you need tremendous development

2209
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 1: and rapid development out of Lorenzo Carter, who had five

2210
01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 1: and a half sacks last year. Absolutely, and you really

2211
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 1: need to bounce back year out of Marcus Golden who

2212
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 1: had double digit sacks a couple of years ago before

2213
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:52,920
Speaker 1: the A C l and Cree Martin wouldn't help get

2214
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:56,160
Speaker 1: a few more sacks at him too. Yeah, but that's

2215
01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:59,320
Speaker 1: right now. Not enough, thank you, Charlie. Okay, guys, have

2216
01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 1: a good night. Good we lost him. It's okay, Sorry,

2217
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:05,560
Speaker 1: chry we didn't get to finish your statement. Uh let's

2218
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 1: take one more call on Natally before we get uh

2219
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 1: Tony Pauline up here. Uh, let's take a look at him.

2220
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 1: By the way, we got two picks coming up here

2221
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 1: in the division, Eagles at fifty seven, Cowboys at fifty eight,

2222
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:20,280
Speaker 1: so we'll keep an eye on those before we get

2223
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:23,320
Speaker 1: to Tony Pauline from Draft Analyst dot com. But the

2224
01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 1: Cowboys take Adderly. I think they're taking Taylor Rap. Okay,

2225
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 1: he had a bad time, but he knows how to

2226
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 1: play the position. I don't disagree, but you know, I

2227
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 1: think they see Xavier Woods is more of a free safety,

2228
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:37,600
Speaker 1: so they didn't want a guy that was better at

2229
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:39,880
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Because I'm with you, I think

2230
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:43,320
Speaker 1: Adderly plays the toughest spot, which is free safety. That's

2231
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 1: harder to find, and he's a ball hawk, he's a playmaker,

2232
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:49,120
Speaker 1: So I would I personally, I think Adderlee is the

2233
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 1: better player. My guess is that they would pick Taylor Rap.

2234
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:54,760
Speaker 1: Let's go to Dylan in Canton, New York. He's up next.

2235
01:56:54,760 --> 01:57:03,240
Speaker 1: Hey Dylan, all right, how are you, buddy? Good? Are you? Um?

2236
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:05,720
Speaker 1: I just had a couple of quick things. I know

2237
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 1: you got that um other segment coming up, but I

2238
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 1: just want to say, I mean last night, that number

2239
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 1: six tick, I mean obviously shocked a lot of people,

2240
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:22,360
Speaker 1: myself included. UM. But uh, but um, you know, I

2241
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:25,360
Speaker 1: I just I look at some of the other quarterbacks

2242
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 1: that I've had success in the past from smaller schools,

2243
01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:31,600
Speaker 1: and sometimes that you know, I think that really a

2244
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 1: lot of people overlook because sometimes, you know, you've got

2245
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:35,840
Speaker 1: guys like someone like r G three, who was a

2246
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:38,920
Speaker 1: huge prospect and a lot of people wanted him and

2247
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 1: he was valued real high. And then obviously what happened

2248
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 1: to him and other quarterbacks. So I feel like sometimes

2249
01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 1: when you take kind of the sleeper quarterback, it kind

2250
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:51,680
Speaker 1: of pans out a little better for you. Um just

2251
01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:55,360
Speaker 1: and also just the way he fits the Giant scheme.

2252
01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:58,040
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have overlooked it. I mean,

2253
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 1: obviously he's been kind of what people say, like an

2254
01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:04,400
Speaker 1: Eli Manning two point oh um, and he has a

2255
01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 1: great opportunity to learn behind you know, one of the

2256
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks I mean obviously that the Giants ever had.

2257
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:14,600
Speaker 1: But just the way he like carries himself, the way

2258
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:17,600
Speaker 1: he's been a leader and everything. I think it's a

2259
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:21,640
Speaker 1: great opportunity for Daniel Jones. But um, just a couple

2260
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:25,520
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks just to name, I mean, I'm not comparing um,

2261
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:28,760
Speaker 1: you know, Jones to them exactly right now, but I

2262
01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 1: mean Joe Flacco came out of Delaware, Big Bend came

2263
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:33,760
Speaker 1: out of Miami, Ohio, and those are two schools that

2264
01:58:34,040 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 1: really haven't had any prospects. So, um just, I guess

2265
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 1: to get some Giants stands some hope, uh you know.

2266
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:44,640
Speaker 1: And also I just had a question about a prospect

2267
01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:48,120
Speaker 1: since we're waiting for the Giants, uh next pick in

2268
01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 1: the draft. What did you guys think about the offensive

2269
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:53,920
Speaker 1: lineman Nate Davis out of Charlotte. I know he played

2270
01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 1: garden tackle UM A while back. I was reading he

2271
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:01,919
Speaker 1: was asked the question whether he'd like to play interior

2272
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 1: or um outside, and he preferred guard or center. I

2273
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 1: did work up on him. I had him projecting as

2274
01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 1: a possible as you said, right tackle, but basically an

2275
01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:19,600
Speaker 1: interior guy. Questions about his his hands, his usage of

2276
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:24,080
Speaker 1: his hands, his get off at the snap, uh, short arms.

2277
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 1: I did like his power, his punch, his finish getting

2278
01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 1: to the second level, and I did like his footwork,

2279
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:35,000
Speaker 1: so you know, again more of an interior guy. But

2280
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 1: versatility is certainly well thought of when a guy comes

2281
01:59:39,400 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 1: into the draft. So potentially if they think he could

2282
01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:47,080
Speaker 1: play right tackle, uh, maybe maybe that's a guy you'd

2283
01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:50,160
Speaker 1: want to consider. I I don't think that that's out

2284
01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:52,880
Speaker 1: of line to suggest he could be value at the

2285
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 1: end of the third round. But you gotta project if

2286
01:59:56,200 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 1: if you want him to play tackle. Okay, I appreciate

2287
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 1: the call, my friend. Thanks you, Dvin. All Right, we're

2288
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:06,760
Speaker 1: gonna take we we backed up Tony Pollint to nine tenths.

2289
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:08,240
Speaker 1: We can get our two callers on the line and

2290
02:00:08,280 --> 02:00:10,240
Speaker 1: then we'll get back to your calls after Tony's done.

2291
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:13,360
Speaker 1: The Eagles, by the way, selected one of my favorite

2292
02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:16,400
Speaker 1: receivers in this draft, j j R. Segall white Side

2293
02:00:16,440 --> 02:00:19,600
Speaker 1: at a Stanford word has that they've put Nelson Aglare

2294
02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:22,960
Speaker 1: on the trade block in recent days, so he's another

2295
02:00:23,280 --> 02:00:26,840
Speaker 1: big wide him. And how Sean Jeffrey making contested catches

2296
02:00:26,880 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 1: with zach Ertz. You try stopping that team in the

2297
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:35,200
Speaker 1: red zone poll? Holy cow, how are you stopping that?

2298
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:41,520
Speaker 1: I had one negative red word for him. Drops that

2299
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:43,160
Speaker 1: could be painful at sue. He's like heck of a

2300
02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:46,800
Speaker 1: player though I like him a lot. Yeah, good player.

2301
02:00:46,840 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 1: If he can clean the drops up, he'll be an

2302
02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:52,320
Speaker 1: even better player. Best contested catch player in the draft

2303
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:54,440
Speaker 1: in my opinion, boxing people out in the end in

2304
02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:56,760
Speaker 1: the end zone for red zone stuff. Best player in

2305
02:00:56,760 --> 02:00:59,120
Speaker 1: the draft with that frame and that physicality you should

2306
02:00:59,120 --> 02:01:01,120
Speaker 1: be able to And by the I still know DK Metcalf,

2307
02:01:01,120 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 1: by the way, so maybe those injuries that you talked

2308
02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:06,520
Speaker 1: about giving him bus potential scaring some people away because

2309
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:09,200
Speaker 1: the physical tools are there only really runs three routes

2310
02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:11,880
Speaker 1: and slanted going to stop. But no one has taken

2311
02:01:12,120 --> 02:01:13,920
Speaker 1: the risk on the deep speed yet, so we'll see

2312
02:01:13,960 --> 02:01:17,200
Speaker 1: what happens. Let's go to Steve and he's in Dallas, right, Natalie,

2313
02:01:17,280 --> 02:01:20,200
Speaker 1: Let's go to Steve. He's on next How are you? Yes, yes,

2314
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:22,760
Speaker 1: I am, I'm in Dallas, all right, they Steve. Well,

2315
02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:24,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you your whole state is riveted right now

2316
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:27,320
Speaker 1: because you're because the Cowboys are on the clock. They

2317
02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:29,640
Speaker 1: finally got a pick on the restaurant shutting down for

2318
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:32,960
Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes. Hey, you know what, they can get

2319
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:35,320
Speaker 1: a pick, but they can keep jimming about that Super Bowl. Yeah,

2320
02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:39,080
Speaker 1: I said it. Oh boy, Okay, so I got, I got.

2321
02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:42,280
Speaker 1: I got two questions. First one is very simple. I

2322
02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:45,280
Speaker 1: don't know about you guys, but who came up with

2323
02:01:45,320 --> 02:01:48,200
Speaker 1: the new draft? Hat? Oh? I dude, I don't know.

2324
02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean if they're bad, look, I you know what,

2325
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:55,840
Speaker 1: I'm a very positive person and I can't you know,

2326
02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:58,840
Speaker 1: I can't say nothing nice about that draft halt. It

2327
02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:02,040
Speaker 1: would been great without the flowers, Okay, I I don't

2328
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:06,240
Speaker 1: know if that's a flower butterfly what that person needs

2329
02:02:06,280 --> 02:02:08,520
Speaker 1: to be fired? And by by the way, and just

2330
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:11,600
Speaker 1: around the league, generally speaking, some of them are a

2331
02:02:11,600 --> 02:02:16,000
Speaker 1: little funny. Well, some of them are nice something some aren't.

2332
02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm an old school guy. What do you think I

2333
02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:23,280
Speaker 1: think about that? Yeah, I'm sure you don't like. Okay,

2334
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:25,720
Speaker 1: if you guys wouldn't mind, I want to can I

2335
02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:28,960
Speaker 1: plug my Instagram name real quick? Steve, go quickly, please,

2336
02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:32,280
Speaker 1: I'll give you a break. Okay, it's just nicky g man. Um.

2337
02:02:32,720 --> 02:02:35,560
Speaker 1: You know I'm a that hard Giants fan and if

2338
02:02:35,560 --> 02:02:37,760
Speaker 1: you guys want to follow me, i'd appreciate it. But

2339
02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:40,800
Speaker 1: I do want to say that real quick. I really

2340
02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:46,200
Speaker 1: feel that we should have went defensively first round. Understand that,

2341
02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:49,400
Speaker 1: really hoping. I was really hoping we get that linebacker

2342
02:02:50,200 --> 02:02:55,120
Speaker 1: from Michigan because that I do the Devin Bush is

2343
02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:57,120
Speaker 1: a really good player. The problem is he was always

2344
02:02:57,160 --> 02:02:59,440
Speaker 1: going to go around ten, which was kind of right

2345
02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:02,040
Speaker 1: in between where the Giants picks were gonna be. And

2346
02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:03,720
Speaker 1: I don't by the way, I do think he was

2347
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:05,680
Speaker 1: in the conversation at six, I don't think he was

2348
02:03:05,720 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 1: that far down from where Josh Allen was. Terrific coverage.

2349
02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:11,560
Speaker 1: He's fast as hack, He's he's a little light in

2350
02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:14,920
Speaker 1: the butt, but otherwise he's a really good play Yeah. Yeah,

2351
02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:17,440
Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm okay with the quarterback and the

2352
02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:24,040
Speaker 1: defensive tackle from Clemson. Um, uh yeah, I'm okay with that.

2353
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:27,200
Speaker 1: But we I mean, I honestly thought we were gonna

2354
02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:30,960
Speaker 1: go maybe honestly since we let go of Vernon, I

2355
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:32,880
Speaker 1: felt first round, for the very first pick, we were

2356
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna go defensive line. Um. But you know, of course,

2357
02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:40,960
Speaker 1: as the gentleman called before, I was shocked with um

2358
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:45,680
Speaker 1: with Jones, I understood, all right, thank you, Steve. Appreciate

2359
02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:47,640
Speaker 1: the call. My friend. Hey, guys, do you guys have

2360
02:03:47,680 --> 02:03:50,080
Speaker 1: a good one? He appreciate it. All right, Let's go

2361
02:03:50,120 --> 02:03:52,760
Speaker 1: to George and Florida. Before we get to Tony Pauline, George,

2362
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:55,520
Speaker 1: what's going on? Jones? Hey there, you guys, how are

2363
02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:58,720
Speaker 1: you doing? What's up? Um? Give you a lot of

2364
02:03:58,720 --> 02:04:01,200
Speaker 1: credit for all of a couple all of criticism you

2365
02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:04,600
Speaker 1: guys had over the last George, George, honestly, we we

2366
02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:07,960
Speaker 1: love interacting with the fans. Sometimes they're happy. Unfortunately, over

2367
02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:09,760
Speaker 1: the last five or six years, a lot of times

2368
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 1: they haven't been. That's why we're here. It's part of

2369
02:04:12,160 --> 02:04:14,360
Speaker 1: the fun. Up Again, I'll give you a lot of credit,

2370
02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:16,440
Speaker 1: but I have to say I'm a long time Giants fan.

2371
02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:19,840
Speaker 1: I try to look at a big picture, and for me,

2372
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:23,800
Speaker 1: the big picture is that the Giants, in my opinion,

2373
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:26,880
Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen, the fifty three man roster is

2374
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:29,360
Speaker 1: going to be much improved over the fifty three man roster.

2375
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:35,520
Speaker 1: Now how that translates to um wins and losses, I

2376
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:38,120
Speaker 1: don't know, but that's where you have to start. And

2377
02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:41,080
Speaker 1: Gentleman is trying to build the roster. I think that

2378
02:04:41,360 --> 02:04:43,120
Speaker 1: two of the three guys that he picked, you know,

2379
02:04:43,400 --> 02:04:46,640
Speaker 1: Jones is a developmental prospect, but the other two guys,

2380
02:04:46,680 --> 02:04:48,880
Speaker 1: they're going to be contributors and both of them could

2381
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:51,960
Speaker 1: be starting this coming year. You know. Yeah, gotta look

2382
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:53,800
Speaker 1: at You've got to look at the big picture, in

2383
02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:57,560
Speaker 1: my opinion, and the Giants are on the right path. Well,

2384
02:04:57,600 --> 02:05:00,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the logical way to go. But don't

2385
02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:04,640
Speaker 1: expect this social media twitter knee jerk reaction world to

2386
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:09,800
Speaker 1: do that, do you. Um, yeah, yeah, I do. That's

2387
02:05:10,040 --> 02:05:14,560
Speaker 1: that's unrealistic. It's not gonna it's not gonna happen. George. Look, look, George,

2388
02:05:14,600 --> 02:05:16,840
Speaker 1: I understand something. I'm an old school guy too, you

2389
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:20,920
Speaker 1: understand that. So I'm always interested in the big picture.

2390
02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm always interested in digging and digging and digging and

2391
02:05:24,920 --> 02:05:27,400
Speaker 1: peeling back all the layers of the onion. But but

2392
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:31,040
Speaker 1: today's world is all about instant gratification, and it's about

2393
02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:33,280
Speaker 1: what do you see on the surface that gets your

2394
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:36,640
Speaker 1: emotions bubbling. And that's that's just what it's about. I mean,

2395
02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:39,120
Speaker 1: I could teach a college class about this, and and

2396
02:05:39,160 --> 02:05:42,280
Speaker 1: probably nobody would take it because they don't want to

2397
02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:45,280
Speaker 1: deal with the old school mentality. They're too interested in

2398
02:05:45,280 --> 02:05:48,880
Speaker 1: in everything else. Yeah, I get it. But you know, Paul,

2399
02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 1: I called back, and Holy Mark, I think it was.

2400
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:55,600
Speaker 1: And I suggested to you that the Giants trade Beckham. Uh,

2401
02:05:55,680 --> 02:05:58,920
Speaker 1: that's not the trade that wounded up being made. But

2402
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:00,800
Speaker 1: you said to me, there's no way they're gonna make

2403
02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:03,840
Speaker 1: the trade because of the caps. And then and I said,

2404
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:07,120
Speaker 1: oh wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, you're gonna quote

2405
02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:09,920
Speaker 1: me quote me accurately. I said, there's no way it's

2406
02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:12,480
Speaker 1: gonna happen because the cap HiT's gonna be too difficult

2407
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:16,000
Speaker 1: and they'll never get the fort knox of picks that

2408
02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:19,200
Speaker 1: it would take to make the deal. So it was

2409
02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:22,400
Speaker 1: a two part answer. It turned out they got the

2410
02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:25,720
Speaker 1: fort Knox of picks from the Cleveland Browns, So please

2411
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:28,840
Speaker 1: just be accurate. No, No, I agree with you. You're

2412
02:06:28,880 --> 02:06:31,400
Speaker 1: you're right, they did get the right picks. But the

2413
02:06:31,400 --> 02:06:34,360
Speaker 1: thing is, you know, when I look at it, the

2414
02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:37,360
Speaker 1: cap hit is X. But the dollars that are being

2415
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:39,720
Speaker 1: paid are or why? And they were what are they

2416
02:06:39,760 --> 02:06:43,520
Speaker 1: gonna pay eight dollars this year? Right? Well, a little

2417
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:45,720
Speaker 1: bit less than that, but let's cash out the door.

2418
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:50,240
Speaker 1: And in my opinion, I'm probably way different from other

2419
02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 1: Giants fans. I don't think the Giants were ever gonna

2420
02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:57,040
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl with Odell Beckham. That's just the

2421
02:06:57,040 --> 02:07:00,120
Speaker 1: way I feel about it. Now. Maybe I understand why

2422
02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:03,360
Speaker 1: the media gets all bound to shape over this. I

2423
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:06,360
Speaker 1: understand why the fans love to see the ampics before

2424
02:07:06,400 --> 02:07:09,240
Speaker 1: the game and the sideline stuff and all that. But

2425
02:07:09,320 --> 02:07:11,840
Speaker 1: for me, all I care about is wins and loss this.

2426
02:07:12,440 --> 02:07:15,200
Speaker 1: I just want to see the team win, right, and

2427
02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:17,240
Speaker 1: that's and that's what you should do. That's what you

2428
02:07:17,280 --> 02:07:21,760
Speaker 1: should do. Yeah, well, you know, old school guy, I

2429
02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:24,160
Speaker 1: get you. In my opinion, I get you. I hope

2430
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:26,400
Speaker 1: they get I hope they get somebody in the third

2431
02:07:26,480 --> 02:07:28,960
Speaker 1: round so they'll have three guys that are in BacT

2432
02:07:29,040 --> 02:07:34,000
Speaker 1: impact players in and again I think that the roster

2433
02:07:34,240 --> 02:07:38,560
Speaker 1: is going to be much better than it was and

2434
02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:42,520
Speaker 1: they're on the right track. I believe that as well.

2435
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:48,880
Speaker 1: Appreciate good night, two, one, four, five, on three. And

2436
02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:51,400
Speaker 1: now we will go to our first, well first non

2437
02:07:51,400 --> 02:07:53,160
Speaker 1: player guests of the show at least, and that's Tony

2438
02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:56,880
Speaker 1: Pauline from Draft Analyst dot com. Again, make sure you

2439
02:07:56,920 --> 02:07:58,480
Speaker 1: check out Big Book kick Off Live. We're taking you

2440
02:07:58,520 --> 02:08:01,880
Speaker 1: to the end of Round them A three tonight, Tony, Um,

2441
02:08:02,480 --> 02:08:05,000
Speaker 1: how are you. I'm sure you're enjoying tracking the draft here?

2442
02:08:05,040 --> 02:08:08,040
Speaker 1: On day two, we just saw Paris Campbell go off

2443
02:08:08,080 --> 02:08:11,360
Speaker 1: the board to the Indianapolis Colts. Early impressions of what

2444
02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:14,320
Speaker 1: you've seen so far in day number two, surprises or disappointments.

2445
02:08:15,520 --> 02:08:17,880
Speaker 1: Surprised that many of the safeties are still there. One

2446
02:08:17,960 --> 02:08:21,640
Speaker 1: thorn Hill, who was supposedly rising up draft boards is

2447
02:08:21,680 --> 02:08:28,480
Speaker 1: still available. Talented cornerback adderly exactly still some tell a

2448
02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:30,360
Speaker 1: rap although I expected him to go to the third

2449
02:08:30,440 --> 02:08:33,040
Speaker 1: round after running the four seven a pro day. The

2450
02:08:33,160 --> 02:08:37,120
Speaker 1: still a lot of decent UH wide receivers available UH

2451
02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:40,600
Speaker 1: and some talented cornerbacks. And you know again also some

2452
02:08:40,640 --> 02:08:42,880
Speaker 1: tight ends. I expected more tight ends to come off

2453
02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:46,200
Speaker 1: the board and round to considering the strength and the

2454
02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:49,600
Speaker 1: depth of the position to this point, Tony, who is

2455
02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:55,200
Speaker 1: your biggest name to fall? It's gonna be Dk Metcalf,

2456
02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:58,160
Speaker 1: although I'm not surprised, you know, he fell into the

2457
02:08:58,160 --> 02:09:00,880
Speaker 1: second round, but we're watching the set around close out

2458
02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:03,520
Speaker 1: and he's still there. I think that's the biggest one.

2459
02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:06,920
Speaker 1: I mentioned want thorn Hill. I think Jalen Ferguson. He's

2460
02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:11,440
Speaker 1: another guy taking a surprising tumble. I expected, Uh, I

2461
02:09:11,440 --> 02:09:15,680
Speaker 1: expected Metcalf, Ferguson, and UH want thorn Hill to be

2462
02:09:15,760 --> 02:09:20,560
Speaker 1: off the board by at least hasn't happened. Conversely, the

2463
02:09:20,600 --> 02:09:23,000
Speaker 1: biggest name to rise, and I got a feeling I

2464
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:27,640
Speaker 1: know which one that's gonna be. But go right ahead. Well,

2465
02:09:27,680 --> 02:09:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's a guy that you and I

2466
02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:33,280
Speaker 1: could probably talk about for the next five hours. Tony,

2467
02:09:34,080 --> 02:09:36,680
Speaker 1: go ahead of Clemson. Tell him by the Oakland Raiders,

2468
02:09:36,680 --> 02:09:39,400
Speaker 1: tell and tell you. I have no skin in the game.

2469
02:09:39,440 --> 02:09:41,160
Speaker 1: But when he was selected, I jumped out on my

2470
02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:45,040
Speaker 1: cheek seat and cheered, yeah, you know what, Paul, By

2471
02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:48,720
Speaker 1: the way, you know, you know what's funny about about Ferrell. Honestly, Tony,

2472
02:09:48,800 --> 02:09:51,360
Speaker 1: I was in the coaches Club, uh, doing part of

2473
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:54,240
Speaker 1: our coverage for MSG Networks last night, and it was

2474
02:09:54,280 --> 02:09:56,600
Speaker 1: funny because I was talking about him and then he

2475
02:09:56,640 --> 02:09:59,800
Speaker 1: got picked. And then a couple of the folks in

2476
02:09:59,840 --> 02:10:02,120
Speaker 1: the in the crowd they had heard us talk about

2477
02:10:02,200 --> 02:10:07,000
Speaker 1: him prior and and they were like, wow, Gruden and

2478
02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:08,760
Speaker 1: may Act. They must have been listening to you guys.

2479
02:10:08,840 --> 02:10:10,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, no, trust me, they don't listen

2480
02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:12,960
Speaker 1: to us. But it's nice to know that somebody thought

2481
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:16,640
Speaker 1: we knew what we were doing. Listen, I had Ferroll

2482
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:18,760
Speaker 1: mocked to the New York Jets to the third pick

2483
02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:20,800
Speaker 1: early on, and you know, as we've talked, that thought

2484
02:10:20,800 --> 02:10:23,720
Speaker 1: he was the most underrated player in the draft. All

2485
02:10:23,720 --> 02:10:27,240
Speaker 1: the guy did was made plays, and I was it

2486
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:28,960
Speaker 1: was it was gratifying to see him go so early.

2487
02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:31,920
Speaker 1: All right, Tony, let's talk about what the giants of

2488
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:34,280
Speaker 1: them so far before we start projecting your headcause I

2489
02:10:34,280 --> 02:10:36,280
Speaker 1: want to cut more picks to go off before we

2490
02:10:36,360 --> 02:10:38,840
Speaker 1: try to theorize what's gonna happen in the next thirty picks,

2491
02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:42,880
Speaker 1: which is nearly impossible. But let's star Daniel Jones. Your

2492
02:10:42,920 --> 02:10:46,680
Speaker 1: thoughts on the player. You know, I don't think people

2493
02:10:46,720 --> 02:10:49,160
Speaker 1: should have a problem with the player. I like Daniel Jones.

2494
02:10:49,240 --> 02:10:51,800
Speaker 1: I think he's he was an underrated quarterback coming in.

2495
02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:54,600
Speaker 1: I think he's a perfect fit for the Giants. He's

2496
02:10:54,640 --> 02:10:57,560
Speaker 1: a thinking man's quarterback. Does he have the physical skills

2497
02:10:57,600 --> 02:11:00,960
Speaker 1: of Dwayne Haskins or Kyler Murray or Jule No, but

2498
02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:03,920
Speaker 1: he gets the most from his his skills and he's

2499
02:11:03,920 --> 02:11:06,800
Speaker 1: got a strong enough arm. He's a leader on the field.

2500
02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:09,680
Speaker 1: He sees what's going on. And the fact is this.

2501
02:11:10,080 --> 02:11:12,280
Speaker 1: He didn't have the offensive line that Colin Murray had

2502
02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:14,840
Speaker 1: blocking for him. He didn't have the receivers that Dwayne

2503
02:11:14,840 --> 02:11:18,160
Speaker 1: Haskins had for him, had that Dayne Haskins had at

2504
02:11:18,200 --> 02:11:21,240
Speaker 1: his disposal. He didn't have this open type of offense

2505
02:11:21,600 --> 02:11:24,720
Speaker 1: that Drew lock had. He plays in a pro style offense.

2506
02:11:25,000 --> 02:11:28,360
Speaker 1: He's coached incredibly well. He carried that Duke offense for

2507
02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:31,240
Speaker 1: three years. He got the most out of that team

2508
02:11:31,240 --> 02:11:33,440
Speaker 1: that could. And if you watched him, you know the

2509
02:11:33,480 --> 02:11:36,000
Speaker 1: past three years he was getting the crud kicked out

2510
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:38,880
Speaker 1: of him, picking himself off the turf, getting back in

2511
02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:41,720
Speaker 1: the huddle. I remember watching the Clemson game, what people

2512
02:11:41,720 --> 02:11:43,680
Speaker 1: were saying, he's not ready for the NFL. He should

2513
02:11:43,680 --> 02:11:45,800
Speaker 1: go back, And I said to myself, I said this

2514
02:11:46,080 --> 02:11:48,480
Speaker 1: in our podcast. Why does he want to go back

2515
02:11:48,520 --> 02:11:50,920
Speaker 1: to Duke to get beat up again? I mean time

2516
02:11:50,960 --> 02:11:52,920
Speaker 1: for him to come out now. If you want to

2517
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:55,280
Speaker 1: say the Giants took him a little bit too early,

2518
02:11:55,680 --> 02:11:57,520
Speaker 1: I think I think that's a fair criticism. If you

2519
02:11:57,520 --> 02:11:59,000
Speaker 1: want to say maybe the Giant should have tried to

2520
02:11:59,000 --> 02:12:01,520
Speaker 1: trade down from six or trade up from seventeen, I

2521
02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:03,720
Speaker 1: think it's a fair criticism. But I don't think you

2522
02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:06,480
Speaker 1: can criticize the player and say he's no good or

2523
02:12:06,600 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 1: is it waste to pick no. I firmly believe that

2524
02:12:09,160 --> 02:12:13,160
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, especially on the pat yarmour, it will eventually

2525
02:12:13,160 --> 02:12:17,000
Speaker 1: become a very good starting and productive quarterback in the NFL. Well, Tony,

2526
02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:19,800
Speaker 1: you're you're locked in around the league. What's your thoughts?

2527
02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:24,800
Speaker 1: What were the chances was seventy chance that Jones would

2528
02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:26,880
Speaker 1: have still been there at seventeen if the Giants didn't

2529
02:12:26,920 --> 02:12:30,160
Speaker 1: take him at six. I think what would have would

2530
02:12:30,160 --> 02:12:33,760
Speaker 1: have likely happened is if he got past ten, eleven, twelve,

2531
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:35,600
Speaker 1: you would have started I would have heard that teams

2532
02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:38,240
Speaker 1: were gonna start to trade up to select him. So

2533
02:12:38,800 --> 02:12:41,280
Speaker 1: I think optimal was for the Giants to maybe consider

2534
02:12:41,320 --> 02:12:44,000
Speaker 1: trading down to nine so the Buffalo Bills could move

2535
02:12:44,080 --> 02:12:46,400
Speaker 1: up and get at Oliver. They eventually got at Oliver

2536
02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:50,200
Speaker 1: anyway at nine, or or maybe even going trading up

2537
02:12:50,240 --> 02:12:53,600
Speaker 1: from seventeen to ten where Denver because never wanted to

2538
02:12:53,640 --> 02:12:56,120
Speaker 1: trade down to take Daniel Jones. You know, you're talking

2539
02:12:56,160 --> 02:13:00,720
Speaker 1: about the difference of five, six, seven spots. That's how

2540
02:13:00,760 --> 02:13:02,360
Speaker 1: much of her reach it was. As far as I

2541
02:13:02,440 --> 02:13:05,240
Speaker 1: was concerned, in my final mark, I had the Giants

2542
02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:09,000
Speaker 1: taking Daniel Jones at seventeen. They they had the luxury

2543
02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:11,840
Speaker 1: of two picks. Uh. You know, people want to complain

2544
02:13:11,880 --> 02:13:13,920
Speaker 1: they didn't get a quarterback. Now they want to complain

2545
02:13:13,960 --> 02:13:16,600
Speaker 1: they got the quarterback too early. I got full faith

2546
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:19,560
Speaker 1: in Daniel Jones and the Giants coaching staff to develop

2547
02:13:19,640 --> 02:13:23,160
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. All right, Tony Pauline from the draft analysts

2548
02:13:23,240 --> 02:13:26,200
Speaker 1: joining us here on Big Blue Kick Off Live. Tony,

2549
02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:29,360
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. The Giants wound up taking

2550
02:13:29,880 --> 02:13:33,520
Speaker 1: uh defensive tackle at seventeen. Who, By the way, I

2551
02:13:33,560 --> 02:13:36,400
Speaker 1: think Dexter Lawrence is a heck of a player. So

2552
02:13:36,640 --> 02:13:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying that that's a bad pick

2553
02:13:38,960 --> 02:13:41,800
Speaker 1: for for the talent that they got. But you know,

2554
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:44,840
Speaker 1: Montes Sweat was still on the board, and we heard

2555
02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:49,000
Speaker 1: about the heart issue at the combine. Then we heard

2556
02:13:49,320 --> 02:13:52,760
Speaker 1: hours before the draft that supposedly there was a bad

2557
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:55,280
Speaker 1: medical report that was out there and that he did

2558
02:13:55,280 --> 02:13:59,240
Speaker 1: not necessarily have a hard issue. Yet Montes Sweat not

2559
02:13:59,320 --> 02:14:01,800
Speaker 1: only fell to the Giants and they didn't take him,

2560
02:14:02,040 --> 02:14:04,600
Speaker 1: he even fell a few more spots until the Redskins

2561
02:14:04,640 --> 02:14:06,400
Speaker 1: got him, and another guy j wanted Taylor fell to

2562
02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:09,840
Speaker 1: the second round. And so what what did you here?

2563
02:14:09,960 --> 02:14:14,600
Speaker 1: Happened with the Montes Sweat situation yesterday? There were just

2564
02:14:14,680 --> 02:14:16,920
Speaker 1: some teams that were scared off by him. And what

2565
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:19,920
Speaker 1: happens is with a guy like Montest Sweat or do

2566
02:14:20,000 --> 02:14:23,560
Speaker 1: you want Taylor, the reward becomes more, it becomes greater

2567
02:14:23,600 --> 02:14:25,080
Speaker 1: than the risk. You saw it in a couple of

2568
02:14:25,120 --> 02:14:27,520
Speaker 1: years ago with Miles Jack. If you remember when Miles

2569
02:14:27,600 --> 02:14:30,960
Speaker 1: Jack fell, and I think that you know, maybe the

2570
02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:33,280
Speaker 1: Giant doctors looked at it and said, you know what,

2571
02:14:33,640 --> 02:14:36,760
Speaker 1: we just don't think we What happens with teams is

2572
02:14:36,920 --> 02:14:39,800
Speaker 1: they will either fail a player or they will flag them.

2573
02:14:39,840 --> 02:14:42,840
Speaker 1: If they flag a player, they usually give him as

2574
02:14:42,840 --> 02:14:46,000
Speaker 1: signed him, either a half round to a full round

2575
02:14:46,560 --> 02:14:48,480
Speaker 1: on the grade that they originally had him. So it

2576
02:14:48,560 --> 02:14:51,280
Speaker 1: may be a situation with the Giants anyway where they

2577
02:14:51,320 --> 02:14:55,600
Speaker 1: gave Montest Sweat basically a full round penalty if you will,

2578
02:14:55,960 --> 02:14:58,240
Speaker 1: because they flagged him. Some teams it was only a

2579
02:14:58,240 --> 02:15:00,640
Speaker 1: half a round. It's all in the when when you

2580
02:15:00,680 --> 02:15:03,040
Speaker 1: come to these medicals, it's all in the eye of

2581
02:15:03,080 --> 02:15:05,720
Speaker 1: the beholder, and they keep it closely tight ennit because

2582
02:15:05,720 --> 02:15:08,040
Speaker 1: of hippo rules and things like that. So there were

2583
02:15:08,080 --> 02:15:11,880
Speaker 1: some teams that we're not that concerned about it, and

2584
02:15:11,880 --> 02:15:13,680
Speaker 1: then there were all those who said, we're not going

2585
02:15:13,720 --> 02:15:16,240
Speaker 1: to take them same thing, which you want, Taylor. Uh.

2586
02:15:16,320 --> 02:15:18,720
Speaker 1: So it was a situation where the red Kins wear

2587
02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:21,200
Speaker 1: they thought that the reward was greater than the risk,

2588
02:15:21,240 --> 02:15:23,320
Speaker 1: which is why they made the move up to select

2589
02:15:23,400 --> 02:15:26,560
Speaker 1: Montest Sweat. All right on Dexter Lawrence the player, Do

2590
02:15:26,640 --> 02:15:28,480
Speaker 1: you think he has it in him to develop into

2591
02:15:28,560 --> 02:15:31,000
Speaker 1: a more consistent pass rusher or is he just a

2592
02:15:31,080 --> 02:15:34,640
Speaker 1: run stuffer. No, he's got the athleticism to be a

2593
02:15:34,680 --> 02:15:37,440
Speaker 1: big time player. Listen. You know, Paul I have talked

2594
02:15:37,480 --> 02:15:40,080
Speaker 1: about our love for Cleveland Ferrell. I'm a big Christian

2595
02:15:40,120 --> 02:15:42,680
Speaker 1: Wilcomes fan. But the fact of the matter is Dexter

2596
02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:44,840
Speaker 1: Lawrence has more upside than all of them. If you

2597
02:15:44,880 --> 02:15:47,000
Speaker 1: can get if you're gonna lie to fire under Dexter

2598
02:15:47,120 --> 02:15:49,560
Speaker 1: Lawrence and get him to hit on all cylinders and

2599
02:15:49,600 --> 02:15:51,920
Speaker 1: get him to play to his level of ability, he

2600
02:15:52,000 --> 02:15:55,080
Speaker 1: has the potential to be the best of all all

2601
02:15:55,120 --> 02:15:57,840
Speaker 1: these three players. Problem is is he turns it on,

2602
02:15:57,920 --> 02:16:00,520
Speaker 1: he turns it off. He gets lazy with his the mentals.

2603
02:16:00,520 --> 02:16:02,840
Speaker 1: If you watch the film, sometimes he plays a little

2604
02:16:02,840 --> 02:16:05,120
Speaker 1: bit tall, and what that does is that neutralizes his

2605
02:16:05,200 --> 02:16:07,560
Speaker 1: strengthen his power at the point of attack. It's a

2606
02:16:07,560 --> 02:16:10,040
Speaker 1: matter of him. You know when were that whole pad

2607
02:16:10,160 --> 02:16:13,320
Speaker 1: situation went down when he missed the semifinal game, when

2608
02:16:13,320 --> 02:16:15,600
Speaker 1: he missed the title game. The question that I had

2609
02:16:15,600 --> 02:16:17,400
Speaker 1: and spoke to the people about his why is this

2610
02:16:17,440 --> 02:16:20,040
Speaker 1: guy taking page rather than working on his football skills,

2611
02:16:20,080 --> 02:16:22,520
Speaker 1: whither than rather than improving his football game. If you

2612
02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:24,879
Speaker 1: can get him focused on football and focused on improving

2613
02:16:24,880 --> 02:16:27,400
Speaker 1: his game, you're gonna have a big time player. You're

2614
02:16:27,400 --> 02:16:31,240
Speaker 1: gonna have an outstanding three down lineman that can occupy

2615
02:16:31,280 --> 02:16:34,520
Speaker 1: the gaps stuff to run as well as as rushed

2616
02:16:34,520 --> 02:16:36,080
Speaker 1: the passer. You know, he's not he's not gonna be

2617
02:16:36,120 --> 02:16:38,320
Speaker 1: a great pass rush, of course, but he can rush

2618
02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:42,280
Speaker 1: the passer. Well, Tony, it sounds like after two Giants picks,

2619
02:16:42,600 --> 02:16:45,320
Speaker 1: you like the value and you like the quality of

2620
02:16:45,360 --> 02:16:48,080
Speaker 1: the players that they got, even if you think that

2621
02:16:48,200 --> 02:16:50,600
Speaker 1: you know the quarterback was a bit high. I'm now

2622
02:16:50,640 --> 02:16:53,039
Speaker 1: gonna go to number three and tell you that I

2623
02:16:53,160 --> 02:16:57,360
Speaker 1: thought DeAndre Baker in terms of need and value, I

2624
02:16:57,840 --> 02:17:00,080
Speaker 1: thought that was a terrific move to go up there

2625
02:17:00,080 --> 02:17:01,960
Speaker 1: into the bottom of the first and to scap up

2626
02:17:01,959 --> 02:17:05,080
Speaker 1: the corner. Well, this is where we disagree, and I'll

2627
02:17:05,160 --> 02:17:08,280
Speaker 1: tell you I've never been big on DeAndre Baker, and

2628
02:17:08,800 --> 02:17:11,160
Speaker 1: I was never big on him based on his film.

2629
02:17:11,200 --> 02:17:14,040
Speaker 1: He's just not a fundamentally sound guy. He struggles making

2630
02:17:14,040 --> 02:17:16,400
Speaker 1: plays with his back to the ball. I think as

2631
02:17:16,440 --> 02:17:19,600
Speaker 1: we spoke at the combine, the word going into the

2632
02:17:19,600 --> 02:17:23,440
Speaker 1: combine was he was not taking combine training seriously. I

2633
02:17:23,480 --> 02:17:25,480
Speaker 1: didn't expect a good combine from what I said. I

2634
02:17:25,520 --> 02:17:28,320
Speaker 1: told everyone look at the position drills, and he struggled

2635
02:17:28,320 --> 02:17:31,200
Speaker 1: in the position drills, you're gonna if you're gonna put

2636
02:17:31,320 --> 02:17:33,840
Speaker 1: him in a system where he's facing the action, a

2637
02:17:33,959 --> 02:17:36,920
Speaker 1: zone system backed off the line of scrimmage. I think

2638
02:17:36,920 --> 02:17:39,039
Speaker 1: he can flourish there. But if you put him, if

2639
02:17:39,080 --> 02:17:41,440
Speaker 1: you put him a situation where he has to make

2640
02:17:41,480 --> 02:17:43,879
Speaker 1: plays with his back to the ball, because I remember

2641
02:17:43,879 --> 02:17:46,199
Speaker 1: talking to John, you know, he plays the receiver's hands.

2642
02:17:46,200 --> 02:17:49,160
Speaker 1: He struggles getting his head back around to locate the

2643
02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:50,760
Speaker 1: pass in the air. There's gonna be a lot of

2644
02:17:50,800 --> 02:17:53,240
Speaker 1: receptions given up. I think it's more a scheme fit

2645
02:17:53,800 --> 02:17:55,920
Speaker 1: for DeAndre Baker. Put him in the red scheme. You

2646
02:17:55,920 --> 02:17:59,480
Speaker 1: know he's he's a smaller guy that plays big football. Yeah,

2647
02:18:00,040 --> 02:18:02,039
Speaker 1: is a good guy, but he has to see the

2648
02:18:02,040 --> 02:18:04,360
Speaker 1: ball in order to make plays. And Tony to the

2649
02:18:04,360 --> 02:18:05,800
Speaker 1: same point. By the way, I think he gets handy

2650
02:18:05,840 --> 02:18:07,320
Speaker 1: at the top of the route two, and I think

2651
02:18:07,560 --> 02:18:09,320
Speaker 1: that's why that goes to him not getting his head

2652
02:18:09,360 --> 02:18:12,000
Speaker 1: around when the balls at the catch point. Sometimes rather

2653
02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:13,600
Speaker 1: than at turning his head, he'll reach it all grab

2654
02:18:13,640 --> 02:18:15,520
Speaker 1: and caver some penalty, which is what I think. Cover

2655
02:18:15,640 --> 02:18:18,600
Speaker 1: two would probably be the perfect scheme for him. So

2656
02:18:18,600 --> 02:18:20,600
Speaker 1: we could be physical with the line but not turn

2657
02:18:20,640 --> 02:18:22,760
Speaker 1: his back to the Tony to me, if you if

2658
02:18:22,760 --> 02:18:24,360
Speaker 1: you use them with a lot of press coverage up

2659
02:18:24,400 --> 02:18:26,880
Speaker 1: at the line, and and he's he's very tough and

2660
02:18:26,920 --> 02:18:29,920
Speaker 1: physical and and rough against the run. He's not afraid

2661
02:18:29,959 --> 02:18:31,760
Speaker 1: to come up and run support, and he's not afraid

2662
02:18:31,800 --> 02:18:34,720
Speaker 1: to make tackles. You know. To me, that's that's my

2663
02:18:34,840 --> 02:18:36,720
Speaker 1: kind of player. Those are the apples that I like.

2664
02:18:37,959 --> 02:18:40,720
Speaker 1: I I agree with them and talk with the with

2665
02:18:40,800 --> 02:18:43,680
Speaker 1: the physicality and the approach to the game and everything.

2666
02:18:43,959 --> 02:18:45,560
Speaker 1: But the fact is is, you know he's five and

2667
02:18:45,560 --> 02:18:49,840
Speaker 1: eleven pounds. He's not a quote unquote bigger corner. Listen again,

2668
02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:51,920
Speaker 1: I think it's a scheme fit. I was surprised he

2669
02:18:51,959 --> 02:18:55,920
Speaker 1: went around one. But then then again, the cornerback boards

2670
02:18:56,120 --> 02:18:58,920
Speaker 1: were all over the place because we've seen from the selections.

2671
02:18:59,280 --> 02:19:01,800
Speaker 1: Usually you can get a good grip talking to teams.

2672
02:19:02,080 --> 02:19:04,560
Speaker 1: You know who the top ten players at a certain

2673
02:19:04,560 --> 02:19:07,840
Speaker 1: position are, what kind of general order that it's gonna go.

2674
02:19:08,240 --> 02:19:10,600
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you're off by by a couple of

2675
02:19:10,600 --> 02:19:12,960
Speaker 1: spots here and there with with guys, but you have

2676
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:16,120
Speaker 1: an idea of who's gonna go where. The cornerback boards

2677
02:19:16,160 --> 02:19:20,320
Speaker 1: were all over the place, all right, and we saw

2678
02:19:20,360 --> 02:19:22,120
Speaker 1: a lot of cornerbacks go by the way right into

2679
02:19:22,120 --> 02:19:24,680
Speaker 1: the start of the second round, so that's not surprising

2680
02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:28,320
Speaker 1: in terms of what came next. Tony guys still left

2681
02:19:28,320 --> 02:19:31,840
Speaker 1: on the board that you know, you think maybe could

2682
02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:34,280
Speaker 1: be in play for the Giants. Let's start a one position.

2683
02:19:34,280 --> 02:19:36,119
Speaker 1: We know where there's a need, and that's pass rusher.

2684
02:19:36,560 --> 02:19:38,240
Speaker 1: Who could be in the mix at the end of

2685
02:19:38,400 --> 02:19:41,360
Speaker 1: round three. I know it's always to go, but who

2686
02:19:41,360 --> 02:19:43,200
Speaker 1: could be there that could be a photographer the Giants

2687
02:19:43,200 --> 02:19:45,400
Speaker 1: that could impact the pass rush maybe, if not even

2688
02:19:45,400 --> 02:19:49,400
Speaker 1: this year, down the road, you know, as far as

2689
02:19:49,560 --> 02:19:53,120
Speaker 1: a stand up over tackle pass rusher, you know, Chase

2690
02:19:53,160 --> 02:19:55,480
Speaker 1: Winnevich is still on the board. I have him in

2691
02:19:55,480 --> 02:19:58,080
Speaker 1: the third round. If he gets down to late part

2692
02:19:58,120 --> 02:20:00,960
Speaker 1: of around three, I think that's a they got to consider.

2693
02:20:01,360 --> 02:20:04,360
Speaker 1: Max Crosby of Eastern Michigan. I have him as a

2694
02:20:04,440 --> 02:20:08,560
Speaker 1: late third or the early fourth round. The prospect primarily

2695
02:20:08,600 --> 02:20:10,760
Speaker 1: came out of a three point stance at Eastern Michigan.

2696
02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:13,560
Speaker 1: Showed up at the combine six five two fifty five

2697
02:20:13,560 --> 02:20:17,680
Speaker 1: pounds or in a four six love Max Crosby love

2698
02:20:17,760 --> 02:20:20,640
Speaker 1: him up up the field as an edge rusher can

2699
02:20:21,040 --> 02:20:23,360
Speaker 1: change direction and get out in space and make plays

2700
02:20:23,800 --> 02:20:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, later on as far as Tomorrow's concerned. Jalen

2701
02:20:27,879 --> 02:20:31,320
Speaker 1: Jelks of Oregon is another guy. But but I think

2702
02:20:31,440 --> 02:20:34,959
Speaker 1: right now, if you're looking for, you know, basically stand

2703
02:20:35,040 --> 02:20:37,720
Speaker 1: up type of standover tackle, type of pass rushers, you're

2704
02:20:37,720 --> 02:20:41,080
Speaker 1: looking at Chase Winn, a bitcher, Max Crosby. How about

2705
02:20:41,920 --> 02:20:45,039
Speaker 1: a down defensive and Joe Jackson out of Miami Tony.

2706
02:20:45,160 --> 02:20:46,880
Speaker 1: I think he's got a shot to go there and

2707
02:20:47,080 --> 02:20:50,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind taking a chance at him. Yeah. The

2708
02:20:50,560 --> 02:20:52,480
Speaker 1: thing with Jackson is is he big enough to play

2709
02:20:52,520 --> 02:20:55,879
Speaker 1: in the Giant system. He's very raw, but a terrific athlete.

2710
02:20:55,920 --> 02:20:57,800
Speaker 1: He's got a high upside. I do have him as

2711
02:20:57,800 --> 02:21:00,400
Speaker 1: a mid third round choice, So that's value there. The

2712
02:21:00,480 --> 02:21:02,480
Speaker 1: question is, is is you a good schematic fit for the

2713
02:21:02,920 --> 02:21:05,600
Speaker 1: for the Giants, has a ton of upside? Maybe a

2714
02:21:05,640 --> 02:21:08,039
Speaker 1: guy that just needs some time. But if you're talking,

2715
02:21:08,120 --> 02:21:09,920
Speaker 1: you know you don't mind drafting a guy in the

2716
02:21:09,920 --> 02:21:11,800
Speaker 1: third round for two or three years down the road.

2717
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:13,880
Speaker 1: You don't expect him to make a big contribution in

2718
02:21:13,920 --> 02:21:15,920
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. I think Jackson is a guy that

2719
02:21:15,920 --> 02:21:18,879
Speaker 1: you got to consider. How about Christian Miller at Alabama. Tony.

2720
02:21:20,080 --> 02:21:22,720
Speaker 1: You know, I like Christian He's gonna fall into the

2721
02:21:22,760 --> 02:21:25,640
Speaker 1: fourth round. I think he's an underrated linebacker. I think

2722
02:21:25,720 --> 02:21:29,039
Speaker 1: he's a perfect three four outside linebacker who can rush

2723
02:21:29,080 --> 02:21:31,760
Speaker 1: the edge but also drop off the line and playing

2724
02:21:31,800 --> 02:21:34,440
Speaker 1: space for you. But then, what Christian Miller was He

2725
02:21:34,480 --> 02:21:37,640
Speaker 1: had an injury UH in the national and National title game,

2726
02:21:37,959 --> 02:21:41,000
Speaker 1: couldn't play at the senior ball, never ran for scouts.

2727
02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:42,800
Speaker 1: The scouts don't have a forty time on him because

2728
02:21:42,840 --> 02:21:45,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't able to run the combine, didn't run into

2729
02:21:45,040 --> 02:21:48,400
Speaker 1: either Alabama Pro days, which is why I moved him

2730
02:21:48,440 --> 02:21:52,000
Speaker 1: from a fourth from a third round selection into the

2731
02:21:52,040 --> 02:21:54,760
Speaker 1: fourth round. But again, I think that'd be a perfect

2732
02:21:54,760 --> 02:21:59,080
Speaker 1: fit for UH. For the Giants defense. What about if

2733
02:21:59,120 --> 02:22:02,680
Speaker 1: they go to right tackle Tony I had suggested before

2734
02:22:02,720 --> 02:22:05,920
Speaker 1: Isaiah Prince might be possible there. And I think could Juiced?

2735
02:22:06,240 --> 02:22:08,600
Speaker 1: I know he had an injury question, but you know

2736
02:22:08,640 --> 02:22:11,560
Speaker 1: he's fallen down to I. You could get value there,

2737
02:22:11,600 --> 02:22:14,440
Speaker 1: could you not? Absolutely? I mean for the star off

2738
02:22:14,440 --> 02:22:16,240
Speaker 1: with could Juice? Could Juice is a guy who's just

2739
02:22:16,280 --> 02:22:18,920
Speaker 1: made a lot of poor decisions in the lead up

2740
02:22:18,959 --> 02:22:21,840
Speaker 1: to the UH through to the draft. He does have

2741
02:22:21,879 --> 02:22:23,280
Speaker 1: an injury, it's gonna take a little bit of time.

2742
02:22:23,280 --> 02:22:24,959
Speaker 1: A thigh injury is gonna take a little bit of time.

2743
02:22:25,360 --> 02:22:28,120
Speaker 1: College left tackle who I projected right to the right side.

2744
02:22:28,240 --> 02:22:30,440
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be there. He'll be there in

2745
02:22:30,440 --> 02:22:32,520
Speaker 1: the third round. I I would expect he the late

2746
02:22:32,560 --> 02:22:34,200
Speaker 1: third round. I got a fourth round grad on him.

2747
02:22:34,360 --> 02:22:37,480
Speaker 1: I absolutely love Isaiah Prince. I'm again a college left

2748
02:22:37,480 --> 02:22:40,000
Speaker 1: tackle who projects to the right side. Six six and

2749
02:22:40,040 --> 02:22:42,960
Speaker 1: a half three five pounds, plays big football. I mean

2750
02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:45,000
Speaker 1: he and golf players at the line of at the

2751
02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:47,560
Speaker 1: point of attack, he drives them off the line of scrimms.

2752
02:22:47,600 --> 02:22:49,800
Speaker 1: He gets movement, run blocking. I think he's a natural

2753
02:22:49,879 --> 02:22:53,000
Speaker 1: right tackle. Not the greatest athlete in the world, but

2754
02:22:53,120 --> 02:22:55,959
Speaker 1: you know you're sometimes your right tackles don't have to

2755
02:22:56,000 --> 02:22:58,520
Speaker 1: be great athletes. I would think I think that would

2756
02:22:58,520 --> 02:23:01,160
Speaker 1: be a sensational pick for the Giant in the third round,

2757
02:23:01,240 --> 02:23:03,520
Speaker 1: even though I create him as a fourth round project. Tony,

2758
02:23:03,640 --> 02:23:07,119
Speaker 1: we agree on like of our players. Is this an

2759
02:23:07,120 --> 02:23:11,480
Speaker 1: Italian thing or why that's kind of scary? Yeah? Yeah, Tony,

2760
02:23:11,520 --> 02:23:15,440
Speaker 1: you actually should be very concerned. M one other one

2761
02:23:15,440 --> 02:23:17,680
Speaker 1: other offensive tackle that I want to ask you about

2762
02:23:18,160 --> 02:23:21,959
Speaker 1: is Chuma Adoga from USC who I think played really

2763
02:23:21,959 --> 02:23:23,920
Speaker 1: well at the Senior Bowl. But I understand is that

2764
02:23:23,959 --> 02:23:27,520
Speaker 1: there's a lot of ancillary issues for lack of a

2765
02:23:27,520 --> 02:23:30,320
Speaker 1: better term. Can you detail with with any sort of

2766
02:23:30,400 --> 02:23:32,840
Speaker 1: idea to give the fans why he might be someone

2767
02:23:32,879 --> 02:23:38,480
Speaker 1: a team might want to lay off of. Uh, you

2768
02:23:38,480 --> 02:23:42,480
Speaker 1: can say, no, that's okay, think of Randy Gregory. That's

2769
02:23:42,480 --> 02:23:45,720
Speaker 1: that's that's that's enough. That's enough. And that thing is

2770
02:23:45,760 --> 02:23:48,760
Speaker 1: I think he's an easy tackle that's going to play

2771
02:23:49,400 --> 02:23:52,160
Speaker 1: offensive guard the next level, probably gonna be a last

2772
02:23:52,200 --> 02:23:55,840
Speaker 1: day pick. Nothing you know, nothing illegal, nothing that a

2773
02:23:55,840 --> 02:23:59,120
Speaker 1: lot of people in the the general public don't don't

2774
02:23:59,160 --> 02:24:05,280
Speaker 1: deal with. We under standards got to be monitored absolutely, Tony. Uh.

2775
02:24:05,320 --> 02:24:08,360
Speaker 1: The only other thing that we were thinking about earlier

2776
02:24:08,440 --> 02:24:11,040
Speaker 1: when when we were looking about what the Giants would

2777
02:24:11,040 --> 02:24:14,200
Speaker 1: try to do in the secondary, and we really we

2778
02:24:14,200 --> 02:24:16,200
Speaker 1: were very happy with Baker. I know you weren't as

2779
02:24:16,240 --> 02:24:19,000
Speaker 1: as happy as we were, but in the secondary. It

2780
02:24:19,160 --> 02:24:21,320
Speaker 1: was something that Dave Gettleman said the other day where

2781
02:24:21,360 --> 02:24:23,360
Speaker 1: he thought that the secondary was one of the three

2782
02:24:23,400 --> 02:24:27,560
Speaker 1: deepest positions in the draft wide receiver, offensive tackle, and secondary.

2783
02:24:27,600 --> 02:24:29,520
Speaker 1: By the way, the three safety just went off in

2784
02:24:29,560 --> 02:24:31,879
Speaker 1: the last four picks this year, Adderie to the Chargers,

2785
02:24:31,920 --> 02:24:34,320
Speaker 1: Tailor Rat to the Rams, and then one Thornhill just

2786
02:24:34,360 --> 02:24:36,760
Speaker 1: went to the Chief just f y I. Anyway, my

2787
02:24:36,840 --> 02:24:40,520
Speaker 1: question is, considering that you know Sam Beale is coming

2788
02:24:40,560 --> 02:24:42,680
Speaker 1: back off for a year on I R and the

2789
02:24:42,720 --> 02:24:45,400
Speaker 1: Giants have just picked up Baker, there's still pretty thin

2790
02:24:45,480 --> 02:24:48,000
Speaker 1: at corner. Would would you see a corner at the

2791
02:24:48,080 --> 02:24:50,200
Speaker 1: end of the third round that would fit the Giant

2792
02:24:50,280 --> 02:24:53,199
Speaker 1: system if they wanted a stock up on a second rookie.

2793
02:24:55,160 --> 02:24:59,080
Speaker 1: Another O higher state guy, Kendall Sheffield of Ohio State

2794
02:24:59,120 --> 02:25:03,080
Speaker 1: and underclass spend h had a terrific season at Ohio

2795
02:25:03,160 --> 02:25:05,840
Speaker 1: stage excellent size five and letter and a half hundred

2796
02:25:05,920 --> 02:25:08,560
Speaker 1: nine three pounds. Didn't run up the combine because he

2797
02:25:08,640 --> 02:25:12,080
Speaker 1: heard he had a slightly torn pack on the bench

2798
02:25:12,120 --> 02:25:15,800
Speaker 1: which prevented him from from running the running the forty

2799
02:25:15,879 --> 02:25:17,400
Speaker 1: I think if he had ran and done a full

2800
02:25:17,600 --> 02:25:21,040
Speaker 1: athletic workout, it's probably a top forty five selection, So

2801
02:25:21,200 --> 02:25:24,160
Speaker 1: I think that would be someone to consider. I haven't

2802
02:25:24,200 --> 02:25:26,959
Speaker 1: going late in round three. The other guy, David Long

2803
02:25:27,440 --> 02:25:30,520
Speaker 1: from Michigan, very good players five ten and a half

2804
02:25:30,600 --> 02:25:33,959
Speaker 1: hundred ninety six pounds ran four four five at the combine,

2805
02:25:34,280 --> 02:25:38,240
Speaker 1: doesn't have mental lapses, very quick, very explosive, a guy

2806
02:25:38,240 --> 02:25:40,320
Speaker 1: who I also think would fit that system as well.

2807
02:25:40,680 --> 02:25:43,640
Speaker 1: How far is Jakai Polite gonna fly off fall Tony.

2808
02:25:45,200 --> 02:25:48,360
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if he's still available, uh when the

2809
02:25:48,360 --> 02:25:53,480
Speaker 1: third round closes out? You know he The underlying The

2810
02:25:53,560 --> 02:25:56,440
Speaker 1: underlying thing with Jakai Polite is he can still rush

2811
02:25:56,480 --> 02:25:58,520
Speaker 1: the passer. I mean, he can still get up the field,

2812
02:25:59,040 --> 02:26:01,640
Speaker 1: can make make a lot of plays. Granted it's gonna

2813
02:26:01,680 --> 02:26:04,359
Speaker 1: be more of a as a stand up outside linebacker

2814
02:26:04,400 --> 02:26:06,360
Speaker 1: in a three four standing over tackle rather than coming

2815
02:26:06,400 --> 02:26:09,000
Speaker 1: out of a three points dance, you know. I mean,

2816
02:26:09,040 --> 02:26:11,800
Speaker 1: it's just a situation where he was not comfortable that

2817
02:26:11,959 --> 02:26:15,840
Speaker 1: some people's personality didn't run well to Combine didn't run

2818
02:26:15,840 --> 02:26:17,280
Speaker 1: well with to pro day. I was told that he

2819
02:26:17,320 --> 02:26:20,119
Speaker 1: put on about twenty pounds of weight because teams were

2820
02:26:20,360 --> 02:26:23,600
Speaker 1: concerned about his size. He had adverse effects on the

2821
02:26:23,680 --> 02:26:26,000
Speaker 1: on the hamstrings, which is why he was always dealing

2822
02:26:26,000 --> 02:26:28,480
Speaker 1: with with sore hamstrings. But the bottom line is this,

2823
02:26:28,600 --> 02:26:30,040
Speaker 1: the guy can get up the field and guy can

2824
02:26:30,080 --> 02:26:31,400
Speaker 1: make plays if you can get him in the third

2825
02:26:31,480 --> 02:26:34,360
Speaker 1: round and you use him as a situational pass rusher

2826
02:26:34,400 --> 02:26:36,880
Speaker 1: at the next level. Uh, that's gonna be a steal,

2827
02:26:36,920 --> 02:26:38,959
Speaker 1: all right. Told the final question, give me a sleeper

2828
02:26:39,080 --> 02:26:41,000
Speaker 1: two that you're keeping an eye on that maybe the

2829
02:26:41,040 --> 02:26:43,160
Speaker 1: league is as high on, but you love that. We

2830
02:26:43,160 --> 02:26:45,080
Speaker 1: should be washing to see when they go off the board,

2831
02:26:45,080 --> 02:26:48,720
Speaker 1: either ended today or even into tomorrow. Talk about a

2832
02:26:48,760 --> 02:26:51,720
Speaker 1: linebacker Tyrrell Dotson of Texas A and m so a

2833
02:26:51,840 --> 02:26:55,440
Speaker 1: smaller running chase linebacker. Uh, that's gonna be on the

2834
02:26:55,440 --> 02:26:57,360
Speaker 1: inside of a three four. You can also use him

2835
02:26:57,360 --> 02:27:00,320
Speaker 1: as a traditional weak side linebacker in the four or three. Uh.

2836
02:27:00,440 --> 02:27:03,040
Speaker 1: Kind of gets lost in the shuffle here. Uh. But

2837
02:27:03,160 --> 02:27:04,760
Speaker 1: the guy who I think is gonna have a lot

2838
02:27:04,760 --> 02:27:07,840
Speaker 1: of success at the next level Mitch Hyatt. You want

2839
02:27:07,840 --> 02:27:10,680
Speaker 1: to talk about underrated offensive line, and Mitch Hyghtt of

2840
02:27:10,879 --> 02:27:14,000
Speaker 1: Clemson was a horrific starting left tackle for three years

2841
02:27:14,000 --> 02:27:15,680
Speaker 1: for Clemson. I don't think he's gonna be left tackle

2842
02:27:15,959 --> 02:27:17,360
Speaker 1: next level. I think he's gonna have to move to

2843
02:27:17,400 --> 02:27:19,600
Speaker 1: the right side. He's gonna be a Day three pick.

2844
02:27:19,800 --> 02:27:21,800
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a fine for some team. You know,

2845
02:27:21,879 --> 02:27:24,879
Speaker 1: he's one of those big guys. He's not the most athletic,

2846
02:27:25,080 --> 02:27:27,520
Speaker 1: he's not the prettiest, but he just finds ways to

2847
02:27:27,600 --> 02:27:30,920
Speaker 1: get the job done. And you know, he protected the

2848
02:27:30,959 --> 02:27:33,680
Speaker 1: blind side of Clemson quarterbacks the past two years, did

2849
02:27:33,720 --> 02:27:36,640
Speaker 1: a good job in the National Championship game against Alabama.

2850
02:27:37,080 --> 02:27:38,760
Speaker 1: Didn't get a cr Bowl invite, which a lot of

2851
02:27:38,760 --> 02:27:43,240
Speaker 1: people were surprised about. How a solid combine again, a

2852
02:27:43,320 --> 02:27:45,080
Speaker 1: Day three pick and a guy that I think will

2853
02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:48,280
Speaker 1: come in initially started as a rotational lineman at the

2854
02:27:48,280 --> 02:27:51,840
Speaker 1: next level and eventually developed into a starter. Tony, good stuff,

2855
02:27:51,879 --> 02:27:54,640
Speaker 1: my friend. We really appreciate it. Draft Analyst dot com.

2856
02:27:54,640 --> 02:27:57,080
Speaker 1: Where else can folks see you working and doing your

2857
02:27:57,080 --> 02:28:01,480
Speaker 1: thing the next couple of days. Obviously on Twitter, and uh,

2858
02:28:02,160 --> 02:28:05,320
Speaker 1: I'll be around. Just follow me on Twitter, you'll you'll

2859
02:28:05,360 --> 02:28:07,040
Speaker 1: you'll find out where I am. In fact, that's how

2860
02:28:07,080 --> 02:28:10,960
Speaker 1: my wife finds out where i'm. That sounds like Tony.

2861
02:28:11,040 --> 02:28:13,560
Speaker 1: We we really appreciate the time tonight. Thanks so much,

2862
02:28:13,560 --> 02:28:14,720
Speaker 1: and thank you for being a part of the show

2863
02:28:14,760 --> 02:28:16,560
Speaker 1: as often as you are during draft season. We really

2864
02:28:16,640 --> 02:28:19,320
Speaker 1: enjoy your insight. It's great information and we'll talk to

2865
02:28:19,320 --> 02:28:21,440
Speaker 1: you down the road, all right, Pal, awesome to have you, Tony.

2866
02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:23,920
Speaker 1: Thanks thanks for having me. Enjoy the rest of the

2867
02:28:23,959 --> 02:28:26,600
Speaker 1: draft guys. Thanks Tony. All right, there we go, Tony,

2868
02:28:26,640 --> 02:28:29,039
Speaker 1: Paul and Draft analyst dot Com does a wonderful job

2869
02:28:29,600 --> 02:28:33,199
Speaker 1: and Round two is almost over. Paul and the Patriots

2870
02:28:33,200 --> 02:28:35,800
Speaker 1: have traded again because the Seahawks are on the point. Yeah,

2871
02:28:35,840 --> 02:28:38,360
Speaker 1: but we also see another deal that's been made. The

2872
02:28:38,400 --> 02:28:41,240
Speaker 1: Dolphins have acquired Josh Rosen from the Cardinals. According to

2873
02:28:41,440 --> 02:28:44,480
Speaker 1: NFL Network, they've now posted that as an as sort

2874
02:28:44,520 --> 02:28:47,760
Speaker 1: of graphic, so apparently that's not talked about now. That

2875
02:28:47,840 --> 02:28:49,400
Speaker 1: is a deal that is dont and that is correct.

2876
02:28:49,480 --> 02:28:51,000
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can get the details on

2877
02:28:51,120 --> 02:28:57,680
Speaker 1: exactly what the final um deal on that trade is. Anyway, Tony,

2878
02:28:57,720 --> 02:29:00,000
Speaker 1: Tony poly And and and Dan Shank are usually the two

2879
02:29:00,040 --> 02:29:03,480
Speaker 1: why seem to have very high percentage matches on so

2880
02:29:03,520 --> 02:29:06,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate you having him on tonight. So pick sixty

2881
02:29:06,680 --> 02:29:16,240
Speaker 1: two the Cardinals Josh Rosen rounder to the Dolphins. M hmmm,

2882
02:29:17,360 --> 02:29:19,200
Speaker 1: and the Arizona By the way, this one pick I

2883
02:29:19,240 --> 02:29:22,080
Speaker 1: didn't mention. You want some speed on the field with

2884
02:29:22,120 --> 02:29:27,600
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray comes four, three, six, Andy Isabella. The Patriots

2885
02:29:27,640 --> 02:29:30,760
Speaker 1: are ticked off, right, there's plentiest slot guys left, So

2886
02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:34,080
Speaker 1: I like Deante Johnson Toledo for that. So so the

2887
02:29:34,120 --> 02:29:37,480
Speaker 1: Cardinals ultimately settled for a little bit less than what

2888
02:29:37,560 --> 02:29:40,880
Speaker 1: they were originally asking for the DK Metcalf to the Seahawks.

2889
02:29:41,920 --> 02:29:45,320
Speaker 1: He slips into the second round. Some people think that

2890
02:29:45,400 --> 02:29:48,160
Speaker 1: Metcalf is the biggest boom or bust player in this draft.

2891
02:29:48,320 --> 02:29:50,400
Speaker 1: It could be if he stays healthy though he's gonna

2892
02:29:50,400 --> 02:29:52,400
Speaker 1: be a good deep threat. What he's gonna be beyond

2893
02:29:52,480 --> 02:29:57,680
Speaker 1: that kind of remains to be six games, Miss john

2894
02:29:57,920 --> 02:30:00,960
Speaker 1: To me, that's not just if that's in big capital

2895
02:30:01,040 --> 02:30:06,680
Speaker 1: letters in times square. That's a lot of games anyway.

2896
02:30:07,840 --> 02:30:12,840
Speaker 1: Two four, five, one three? All right, Um, hopefully about

2897
02:30:12,920 --> 02:30:15,080
Speaker 1: an hour and a half until we get the Giants pick.

2898
02:30:15,160 --> 02:30:17,120
Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on things and keep following it

2899
02:30:17,160 --> 02:30:20,080
Speaker 1: with you. Let's go to Emmanuel in New Jersey, who

2900
02:30:20,120 --> 02:30:23,720
Speaker 1: has been holding the longest high Emmanuel, Hey, guys, how's

2901
02:30:23,720 --> 02:30:27,880
Speaker 1: it going doing? Good? Man? I gotta talk about this

2902
02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:33,080
Speaker 1: draft though. Uh, I'm not happy with it at all. Man,

2903
02:30:33,160 --> 02:30:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm not and I'm a big Gave Gettleman fan. But

2904
02:30:36,080 --> 02:30:39,520
Speaker 1: what are you not happy about? Emmanuel? I? Mean, honestly,

2905
02:30:39,560 --> 02:30:41,720
Speaker 1: all three picks are a little sketchy to me. I mean,

2906
02:30:41,840 --> 02:30:44,440
Speaker 1: I mean, let's first off with Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones,

2907
02:30:44,879 --> 02:30:46,760
Speaker 1: I don't like that people are saying he didn't have

2908
02:30:46,959 --> 02:30:49,879
Speaker 1: talent around him. I know he did. He didn't, but

2909
02:30:50,000 --> 02:30:54,000
Speaker 1: he played against Wake four and he he he went

2910
02:30:54,040 --> 02:30:57,720
Speaker 1: for one touch down in two intersups. Yeah, that was that.

2911
02:30:57,720 --> 02:30:59,160
Speaker 1: That that was a bad game for him. Did you

2912
02:30:59,160 --> 02:31:01,640
Speaker 1: see him play against Virginia Tech? And do you see

2913
02:31:01,680 --> 02:31:04,080
Speaker 1: him play against North Carolina and he actually he did Okay,

2914
02:31:04,200 --> 02:31:08,840
Speaker 1: verse Clemson too. I understand that, but I mean, I'm

2915
02:31:08,840 --> 02:31:11,920
Speaker 1: not an expert, so you know, obviously they watch more

2916
02:31:11,920 --> 02:31:16,720
Speaker 1: tape and they gotta more details than I do. Hey, look, Amnuel, Honestly,

2917
02:31:16,760 --> 02:31:20,000
Speaker 1: if you're scouting based on the numbers, I would understand

2918
02:31:20,040 --> 02:31:23,240
Speaker 1: why you're extremely concerned. I get it, but I think

2919
02:31:23,280 --> 02:31:27,080
Speaker 1: there are reasons to those numbers if you watch the tape.

2920
02:31:27,120 --> 02:31:29,080
Speaker 1: That's how I put a tape here. Here's what I

2921
02:31:29,360 --> 02:31:34,360
Speaker 1: also say to you, very simply, put um, if whatever reason,

2922
02:31:34,480 --> 02:31:37,160
Speaker 1: for whatever reason it is, you don't like the player,

2923
02:31:37,840 --> 02:31:40,320
Speaker 1: then clearly you're not gonna like the pick, because when

2924
02:31:40,360 --> 02:31:42,400
Speaker 1: you pick it six, you better really love the player,

2925
02:31:42,480 --> 02:31:45,520
Speaker 1: of course, right, and the Giants did, okay, so and

2926
02:31:45,680 --> 02:31:48,320
Speaker 1: and that's that's where that's where you have to kind

2927
02:31:48,320 --> 02:31:52,960
Speaker 1: of differentiate how you grade the pick, because if they

2928
02:31:53,080 --> 02:31:55,640
Speaker 1: picked a guy at six that they did not love,

2929
02:31:56,720 --> 02:31:59,400
Speaker 1: then you could rip them the shreds and say, how

2930
02:31:59,440 --> 02:32:02,360
Speaker 1: does the g yeah, pick a guy that he's not

2931
02:32:02,560 --> 02:32:05,959
Speaker 1: absolutely head over heels about, How could he do that

2932
02:32:06,040 --> 02:32:10,560
Speaker 1: at number six? But but that's not what happened, So

2933
02:32:10,879 --> 02:32:13,039
Speaker 1: you have to kind of say, all right, I can

2934
02:32:13,040 --> 02:32:15,320
Speaker 1: agree to disagree with him. I may not like it,

2935
02:32:15,560 --> 02:32:18,160
Speaker 1: but I understand the guy just had to have this

2936
02:32:18,280 --> 02:32:21,240
Speaker 1: player go get it and we'll see how it out.

2937
02:32:21,400 --> 02:32:24,800
Speaker 1: That's that's that's how you have to approach it, right,

2938
02:32:25,200 --> 02:32:28,560
Speaker 1: And but my concern is we're waiting to see how

2939
02:32:28,640 --> 02:32:31,440
Speaker 1: it turns out. But in the meanwhile, we're gonna have

2940
02:32:31,440 --> 02:32:34,520
Speaker 1: Ghettoman and past Shermer, two guys were not sure of

2941
02:32:34,680 --> 02:32:37,920
Speaker 1: at least the fan base is not anymore. So it's

2942
02:32:37,920 --> 02:32:41,800
Speaker 1: going to take a while for us to realize. Of course, well, Emmanuel, honestly,

2943
02:32:41,959 --> 02:32:44,080
Speaker 1: I know people have been calling for jobs. Dave Gettiman

2944
02:32:44,120 --> 02:32:47,280
Speaker 1: was getting three years regardless, all right, the Giants don't

2945
02:32:47,320 --> 02:32:50,040
Speaker 1: move on from general managers in two years, it doesn't happen.

2946
02:32:50,360 --> 02:32:52,520
Speaker 1: So he was gonna be here for three years regardless.

2947
02:32:52,520 --> 02:32:56,640
Speaker 1: So just just understand that. I mean, they always tell

2948
02:32:56,720 --> 02:32:59,520
Speaker 1: you you're gonna have to wait at least three years

2949
02:32:59,600 --> 02:33:02,880
Speaker 1: to herman if your draft class was any good or

2950
02:33:02,920 --> 02:33:05,400
Speaker 1: for that matter, not very good. And that's it. By

2951
02:33:05,400 --> 02:33:07,240
Speaker 1: the way, My guess is that he's a longer lease

2952
02:33:07,280 --> 02:33:11,000
Speaker 1: than that. So what I'm saying is, yeah, time will tell,

2953
02:33:11,400 --> 02:33:14,440
Speaker 1: wait and see, give him a give these guys a chance.

2954
02:33:14,840 --> 02:33:16,400
Speaker 1: And then if you want to call us back in

2955
02:33:16,480 --> 02:33:19,240
Speaker 1: three years and say they blew the pick and it

2956
02:33:19,360 --> 02:33:21,800
Speaker 1: was a bust and a horrible mistake, I'd be very

2957
02:33:21,840 --> 02:33:26,119
Speaker 1: glad to listen to you, right and yeah, and listen.

2958
02:33:26,120 --> 02:33:27,840
Speaker 1: I've been a Dave get him a fan, and I

2959
02:33:27,879 --> 02:33:29,840
Speaker 1: thought he had a great draft last year. He did,

2960
02:33:30,720 --> 02:33:32,560
Speaker 1: But then I looked at some of the other drafts,

2961
02:33:32,560 --> 02:33:35,920
Speaker 1: like I saw him pick um wide receiver from my house, say,

2962
02:33:35,959 --> 02:33:39,400
Speaker 1: instead of to Juice Smith Jr. And you know, obviously

2963
02:33:39,440 --> 02:33:42,200
Speaker 1: we don't get all the picks, right, But I mean,

2964
02:33:42,240 --> 02:33:44,879
Speaker 1: now I'm starting to really think that maybe he doesn't

2965
02:33:44,879 --> 02:33:47,440
Speaker 1: have it. And it's just it's concerning when you think

2966
02:33:47,520 --> 02:33:50,800
Speaker 1: like he has another three years and how far a

2967
02:33:50,879 --> 02:33:54,720
Speaker 1: whole are we gonna dig? Well, you know, every GM

2968
02:33:54,760 --> 02:33:57,200
Speaker 1: has hits and misses when they draft players. It's a

2969
02:33:57,240 --> 02:33:59,840
Speaker 1: it's a given. Like Weatherman. We said before, like we're

2970
02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:04,000
Speaker 1: Weatherman too, you're not gonna get well if we're Weatherman

2971
02:34:04,040 --> 02:34:09,200
Speaker 1: that he's a meteorologist. Exactly, very nice. But look, here's

2972
02:34:09,240 --> 02:34:12,160
Speaker 1: the thing. Last year, the guys, you know, you had

2973
02:34:12,400 --> 02:34:15,879
Speaker 1: four players pay immediate dividends. So you say right away, okay,

2974
02:34:15,959 --> 02:34:18,280
Speaker 1: that's good. Now, I'm still ultimately you can't grate that

2975
02:34:18,360 --> 02:34:20,320
Speaker 1: draft for another couple of years down the road started

2976
02:34:20,320 --> 02:34:23,320
Speaker 1: well though, but it started well. Their rookie grades were

2977
02:34:23,400 --> 02:34:27,840
Speaker 1: really good. So, to be perfectly honest with you, don't

2978
02:34:27,879 --> 02:34:30,959
Speaker 1: you to be fair? I want a great gentleman on

2979
02:34:31,000 --> 02:34:34,600
Speaker 1: what he's done here? Is it really fair to carry

2980
02:34:34,640 --> 02:34:37,720
Speaker 1: over any grade that he got with Carolina here it's

2981
02:34:37,720 --> 02:34:41,400
Speaker 1: a different organization, different scouting department. He's been here for

2982
02:34:41,480 --> 02:34:44,280
Speaker 1: one year and his rookie class did well. Isn't the

2983
02:34:44,360 --> 02:34:50,960
Speaker 1: fair thing to do? Grade him on what he's done here?

2984
02:34:51,200 --> 02:34:53,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to give him a chance. Um, And

2985
02:34:53,320 --> 02:34:56,640
Speaker 1: then as far as the other picks, I thought Dexter Lawrence. Um,

2986
02:34:56,760 --> 02:34:58,360
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of up and down film. Did

2987
02:34:58,400 --> 02:35:00,240
Speaker 1: you guys see that suit? Oh? Yeah? You know. I

2988
02:35:00,280 --> 02:35:02,680
Speaker 1: think Tony talked about when when we interviewed him there

2989
02:35:02,680 --> 02:35:05,520
Speaker 1: were some plays where he looked absolutely unstoppable on other

2990
02:35:05,520 --> 02:35:08,200
Speaker 1: plays where he didn't. Um. And I think that maybe

2991
02:35:08,280 --> 02:35:10,320
Speaker 1: part of that is the injury uh that he you know,

2992
02:35:10,360 --> 02:35:12,000
Speaker 1: he talked about an interview with him that we had

2993
02:35:12,040 --> 02:35:14,920
Speaker 1: where you know, basically almost had you know, he couldn't

2994
02:35:14,920 --> 02:35:17,280
Speaker 1: basically do a caphrase for a year and a half,

2995
02:35:17,280 --> 02:35:20,480
Speaker 1: which is going to affect him hand that three pounds. So, UM,

2996
02:35:20,480 --> 02:35:22,960
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. But if he can

2997
02:35:23,040 --> 02:35:26,039
Speaker 1: get going at all times, like Tony spoke about, then

2998
02:35:26,080 --> 02:35:27,880
Speaker 1: he can be a heck of a football player. I

2999
02:35:27,879 --> 02:35:31,200
Speaker 1: had written down on my notes the word technique. Now,

3000
02:35:31,400 --> 02:35:33,959
Speaker 1: in talking to him, I think we would both agree

3001
02:35:34,280 --> 02:35:36,480
Speaker 1: it sounded like he understands he's going to have to

3002
02:35:36,480 --> 02:35:38,840
Speaker 1: do some polish because I think he relies on his

3003
02:35:38,920 --> 02:35:41,160
Speaker 1: speed and power right now more so than he does

3004
02:35:41,160 --> 02:35:43,480
Speaker 1: on technique. And in the NFL, you're gonna have to

3005
02:35:43,480 --> 02:35:45,880
Speaker 1: get the whole package together correct and and and and

3006
02:35:46,240 --> 02:35:49,560
Speaker 1: that's where the coaching comes in because again. Carl Banks,

3007
02:35:49,560 --> 02:35:53,280
Speaker 1: one of our co worker co workers. He always says, hey,

3008
02:35:53,320 --> 02:35:55,960
Speaker 1: this guy is not just add water. That's not the

3009
02:35:56,000 --> 02:35:58,600
Speaker 1: way it goes with most rookies. Hardly any rookie comes

3010
02:35:58,600 --> 02:36:01,960
Speaker 1: into the league just water, and and he's exactly what

3011
02:36:02,040 --> 02:36:04,640
Speaker 1: you want him to be. That's why coaches get paid.

3012
02:36:04,959 --> 02:36:08,039
Speaker 1: You have a coaching staff to polish guys up and

3013
02:36:08,080 --> 02:36:10,840
Speaker 1: to get them to max out. Give the coaches a

3014
02:36:10,920 --> 02:36:12,640
Speaker 1: chance to work with the guy. Why don't you move

3015
02:36:12,640 --> 02:36:17,280
Speaker 1: on to Baker? Emmanuel and Baker? Last I felt like

3016
02:36:17,879 --> 02:36:20,640
Speaker 1: Greedy Williams was the best cornerback, but I mean, apparently

3017
02:36:20,640 --> 02:36:23,200
Speaker 1: the lete doesn't agree because you know he was down

3018
02:36:23,240 --> 02:36:26,000
Speaker 1: to Yeah, that's for sure. Coaches don't like players that

3019
02:36:26,040 --> 02:36:29,760
Speaker 1: don't want to tackle Emmanuel. They don't think Greedy Williams

3020
02:36:29,800 --> 02:36:31,920
Speaker 1: does not want to tackle. In most cases, the word

3021
02:36:32,120 --> 02:36:35,960
Speaker 1: finesse does not agree with football in most cases. The

3022
02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:38,120
Speaker 1: only think I would say that in the passing league,

3023
02:36:38,160 --> 02:36:40,840
Speaker 1: does it? You know? I know we still have to tackle,

3024
02:36:40,959 --> 02:36:46,240
Speaker 1: but is there less of of uh? A trait that

3025
02:36:46,480 --> 02:36:49,200
Speaker 1: is needed. Coverage is certainly more important, and no one

3026
02:36:49,200 --> 02:36:52,000
Speaker 1: would argue that absolutely, but it is something that matters

3027
02:36:52,000 --> 02:36:53,400
Speaker 1: in Emmanuel. Thanks for the car I think you made

3028
02:36:53,400 --> 02:36:56,200
Speaker 1: some good points. It was a good conversation, um, but

3029
02:36:56,320 --> 02:37:01,160
Speaker 1: I think people didn't think his cover skills were that

3030
02:37:01,320 --> 02:37:04,200
Speaker 1: far off from the other players. So that's why he

3031
02:37:04,320 --> 02:37:06,640
Speaker 1: may be dropped below them. And he's also schemes specific.

3032
02:37:06,680 --> 02:37:08,720
Speaker 1: If you're gonna play a lot of zone, you're not

3033
02:37:08,840 --> 02:37:12,680
Speaker 1: drafting Greedy Williams. He's a man player, so it depends

3034
02:37:12,680 --> 02:37:14,360
Speaker 1: on what scheme you're trying to fit the guy into.

3035
02:37:14,400 --> 02:37:17,160
Speaker 1: Also totally agreed. By the way, we were both right

3036
02:37:17,160 --> 02:37:21,680
Speaker 1: about Zack Gallen. You had thought he might go on

3037
02:37:21,760 --> 02:37:23,879
Speaker 1: the third, he did. I thought he might go in

3038
02:37:23,920 --> 02:37:25,920
Speaker 1: the late second. Well, he was the first pick of

3039
02:37:25,959 --> 02:37:28,840
Speaker 1: the third to the Cardinals, the defensive end out of

3040
02:37:28,879 --> 02:37:31,320
Speaker 1: Boston College. And by the way, around sixty teams missed

3041
02:37:31,320 --> 02:37:35,039
Speaker 1: on Juju Smith Schuster, by the way, so our sixty

3042
02:37:35,080 --> 02:37:37,200
Speaker 1: spots in the draft, obviously there's only thirty two teams.

3043
02:37:37,200 --> 02:37:40,760
Speaker 1: But you get my pant and again, well again, we

3044
02:37:40,959 --> 02:37:44,480
Speaker 1: didn't we say yesterday John on the program, or maybe

3045
02:37:44,560 --> 02:37:48,560
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't yesterday the day before h where Rick

3046
02:37:48,600 --> 02:37:51,840
Speaker 1: Stello of the NFL Draft Bible had said to us

3047
02:37:52,400 --> 02:37:55,600
Speaker 1: more free agents were in the league last year than

3048
02:37:55,640 --> 02:37:59,600
Speaker 1: there were fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh round draft picks combined.

3049
02:38:00,000 --> 02:38:02,640
Speaker 1: So guess what, folks, Even the scouts who do this

3050
02:38:02,680 --> 02:38:06,879
Speaker 1: for a living, seven three sixty five days a year,

3051
02:38:07,640 --> 02:38:11,320
Speaker 1: they miss guys. By the way, one of my sleepers,

3052
02:38:11,320 --> 02:38:15,360
Speaker 1: Deante Johnson out of Toledo, goes to the Steelers. He's

3053
02:38:15,360 --> 02:38:16,920
Speaker 1: a heck of a slock guy for that. He's gonna

3054
02:38:16,920 --> 02:38:18,400
Speaker 1: be a heck of a slock eye for them. That's

3055
02:38:18,440 --> 02:38:21,240
Speaker 1: a good player. All right. I'm gonna go to a

3056
02:38:21,280 --> 02:38:23,960
Speaker 1: care that we haven't heard from since back in the

3057
02:38:24,000 --> 02:38:27,280
Speaker 1: Anita Mark's big Blue hit days, and that's Kaiser. Who's

3058
02:38:27,320 --> 02:38:31,560
Speaker 1: up in Yonkers. Kaiser. Good to hear from you, my

3059
02:38:31,680 --> 02:38:36,200
Speaker 1: long lost friends. I know. I'll tell you what, Kaiser.

3060
02:38:36,240 --> 02:38:37,680
Speaker 1: I wish I could talk to you every day if

3061
02:38:37,680 --> 02:38:42,760
Speaker 1: I could. Paul, you're not code right now? Where's your

3062
02:38:42,760 --> 02:38:46,800
Speaker 1: giant polo? You know what? I decided, since it was

3063
02:38:47,240 --> 02:38:49,320
Speaker 1: draft time, I wanted to just dress it up a

3064
02:38:49,360 --> 02:38:53,120
Speaker 1: little bit. All right, I can respect that, But that

3065
02:38:53,240 --> 02:38:56,959
Speaker 1: last that was some call. I almost fell. Yeah, he

3066
02:38:57,000 --> 02:38:58,480
Speaker 1: had a lot of points to make. I tried to

3067
02:38:58,480 --> 02:39:01,680
Speaker 1: move them along to DeAndre Baker is best I could. Okay,

3068
02:39:01,680 --> 02:39:06,080
Speaker 1: I got a critical question. Okay, with all these picks,

3069
02:39:06,560 --> 02:39:09,440
Speaker 1: you know you think the Giants are given any thought

3070
02:39:09,800 --> 02:39:13,240
Speaker 1: to maybe at some point, Okay, because he's a lot

3071
02:39:13,280 --> 02:39:18,039
Speaker 1: closer to forty than he's drafting a long snapper to

3072
02:39:18,160 --> 02:39:21,800
Speaker 1: replace Zak Dias. He's a lot closer to forty than.

3073
02:39:22,720 --> 02:39:25,120
Speaker 1: Think about it. Did you see him on our M

3074
02:39:25,240 --> 02:39:28,520
Speaker 1: S G Show last night? Of course? Okay? If anything,

3075
02:39:28,560 --> 02:39:30,320
Speaker 1: you too are on. I gotta tell you, though it

3076
02:39:30,360 --> 02:39:33,200
Speaker 1: could have been a better interview. Well, the people in

3077
02:39:33,280 --> 02:39:35,920
Speaker 1: the coaches Club, we're really happy to hear from him,

3078
02:39:36,000 --> 02:39:38,560
Speaker 1: And as far as I'm concerned, Zach looks like he's

3079
02:39:38,560 --> 02:39:42,480
Speaker 1: at least ten years younger than his chronological chronologically Kaiser,

3080
02:39:42,520 --> 02:39:45,240
Speaker 1: how about this the best of the best, the best,

3081
02:39:45,320 --> 02:39:47,800
Speaker 1: right to the Giant's mouth. I love that, because we

3082
02:39:47,840 --> 02:39:50,680
Speaker 1: all loved the best long snapper in this draft. By

3083
02:39:50,680 --> 02:39:52,920
Speaker 1: the way, is Dan. God's a lot of Indiana, Kaiser,

3084
02:39:53,040 --> 02:39:56,200
Speaker 1: so part that only one of or both of you

3085
02:39:56,200 --> 02:39:59,000
Speaker 1: would know. I must have been I'm cheating. I'm reading

3086
02:39:59,000 --> 02:40:01,600
Speaker 1: it out of a book. But that's a yeah. Alright,

3087
02:40:01,600 --> 02:40:04,760
Speaker 1: Fellow's good catching up with you. I'll be listening the

3088
02:40:04,760 --> 02:40:09,760
Speaker 1: whole way. It's just unbelievably compelling drama, and thanks for

3089
02:40:09,800 --> 02:40:12,560
Speaker 1: hanging in there. Thank you. Anyway you can talk to

3090
02:40:12,600 --> 02:40:14,480
Speaker 1: somebody and get the trade up for a second round

3091
02:40:14,480 --> 02:40:17,080
Speaker 1: of early third round pick, I'm gonna try to talk

3092
02:40:17,120 --> 02:40:18,320
Speaker 1: to someone to see if we can get you to

3093
02:40:18,400 --> 02:40:23,039
Speaker 1: a race. You know, Wow, I know somebody. Okay, excellent,

3094
02:40:23,080 --> 02:40:24,879
Speaker 1: good to hear. We'll get your touch for the boss.

3095
02:40:24,920 --> 02:40:28,160
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, thank you appreciate the call. And you know,

3096
02:40:28,520 --> 02:40:30,400
Speaker 1: after I hear from Kaiser, maybe I don't want to

3097
02:40:30,400 --> 02:40:33,840
Speaker 1: talk to him every day. One died, three died four

3098
02:40:33,920 --> 02:40:36,240
Speaker 1: or five on three. Let's go to Edgelo all the

3099
02:40:36,280 --> 02:40:42,800
Speaker 1: way out in San Diego. Edgelo, what's going on? Because

3100
02:40:42,800 --> 02:40:44,760
Speaker 1: being in San Diego, if they find out you're a

3101
02:40:44,800 --> 02:40:48,000
Speaker 1: Giant fan, they starne you. Oh, nobody cares about football

3102
02:40:48,040 --> 02:40:50,800
Speaker 1: in San Diego anymore. Angelo, they move, there's nobody left. Well,

3103
02:40:50,840 --> 02:40:58,720
Speaker 1: the Alliance and the Alliance folding from when he Oh,

3104
02:40:58,720 --> 02:41:01,120
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Okay, I knew what he was talking about,

3105
02:41:01,160 --> 02:41:03,680
Speaker 1: but you had an Alliance team and now they folded

3106
02:41:03,720 --> 02:41:08,520
Speaker 1: to the Fleetkay, sweet listen for all your Giant guys

3107
02:41:08,520 --> 02:41:11,840
Speaker 1: out there that are saying the first pick that doesn't

3108
02:41:11,879 --> 02:41:14,480
Speaker 1: make much sense. Let me tell you something. I was

3109
02:41:14,680 --> 02:41:18,840
Speaker 1: at the draft when after we have selected a quarterback,

3110
02:41:19,560 --> 02:41:21,480
Speaker 1: we turned to a cousin and said, what's up film

3111
02:41:21,560 --> 02:41:27,600
Speaker 1: sins Morehead State? Is that in America? Is that in GM? Who?

3112
02:41:27,720 --> 02:41:30,000
Speaker 1: Who did they start? That was? You know what's funny

3113
02:41:30,000 --> 02:41:32,160
Speaker 1: about that? And I'm glad you brought it up. That

3114
02:41:32,240 --> 02:41:35,360
Speaker 1: was nineteen seventy nine George Young's first pick as a

3115
02:41:35,440 --> 02:41:39,520
Speaker 1: Giants GM. He takes Sam's number seven overall. And by

3116
02:41:39,560 --> 02:41:44,720
Speaker 1: the way, the selection last night of of Jones is

3117
02:41:44,760 --> 02:41:47,560
Speaker 1: only the fifth time in Giants history they have used

3118
02:41:47,560 --> 02:41:51,240
Speaker 1: a first round pick on a quarterback. And the Sims

3119
02:41:51,280 --> 02:41:54,240
Speaker 1: selection at number seven. As you said, Morehead State, I

3120
02:41:54,280 --> 02:41:58,240
Speaker 1: think probably half of the fans booed unmercifully. The other

3121
02:41:58,280 --> 02:42:00,640
Speaker 1: half of the fans had no idea who he was,

3122
02:42:01,400 --> 02:42:03,840
Speaker 1: and even some of the experts, I think at the time,

3123
02:42:03,879 --> 02:42:06,600
Speaker 1: and remember it was not covered like it is today

3124
02:42:06,680 --> 02:42:11,080
Speaker 1: by four networks. I believe even the experts thought, oh wow,

3125
02:42:11,360 --> 02:42:14,240
Speaker 1: he's gotta be what four or five, six, seventh round,

3126
02:42:14,280 --> 02:42:17,600
Speaker 1: He's not a first round pick, and look what happened.

3127
02:42:17,640 --> 02:42:22,080
Speaker 1: Phil Simms wind up being pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I'd

3128
02:42:22,120 --> 02:42:24,280
Speaker 1: like that. A Giant fans to keep that and lef

3129
02:42:24,560 --> 02:42:27,320
Speaker 1: you mentioned j junk I remember doing before the first

3130
02:42:27,320 --> 02:42:30,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He said, if we happened to win the division,

3131
02:42:30,959 --> 02:42:33,280
Speaker 1: and then if we happened to win the NFC Championship,

3132
02:42:33,640 --> 02:42:36,160
Speaker 1: and when we go to the Super Bowl win, Giant

3133
02:42:36,200 --> 02:42:40,000
Speaker 1: fans will complained that we don't win by enough lights. Yeah, exactly,

3134
02:42:40,080 --> 02:42:45,400
Speaker 1: I understand. You know, let's face it, when when you're

3135
02:42:45,520 --> 02:42:48,240
Speaker 1: a passionate fan, and the Giants have some of those

3136
02:42:48,280 --> 02:42:50,640
Speaker 1: passionate fans in the league, I don't think anybody would

3137
02:42:50,640 --> 02:42:54,039
Speaker 1: dispute that. You know, it's gonna kinda go and come

3138
02:42:54,040 --> 02:42:57,160
Speaker 1: with the wind. When you're really happy, boy, you're just

3139
02:42:57,320 --> 02:43:00,879
Speaker 1: absolutely bonkers, and when you're really upset, you're gonna overreact

3140
02:43:00,920 --> 02:43:03,640
Speaker 1: and be upset. It happens, and Paul mentioned it, and

3141
02:43:03,879 --> 02:43:05,720
Speaker 1: I want to give you the actual numbers and more.

3142
02:43:05,760 --> 02:43:08,080
Speaker 1: Head State Phil Simms finished his career there with a

3143
02:43:08,160 --> 02:43:12,360
Speaker 1: forty eight point nine percent completion percentage, thirty two touchdowns,

3144
02:43:12,600 --> 02:43:16,440
Speaker 1: and forty five interceptions. They never made the postseason, and

3145
02:43:16,440 --> 02:43:18,680
Speaker 1: in his final year there there were two six and one.

3146
02:43:19,240 --> 02:43:22,160
Speaker 1: So sometimes college stats don't matter that much. Just horrible

3147
02:43:22,240 --> 02:43:27,039
Speaker 1: numbers coming out of school. Bill Wals, Yeah, Walts later

3148
02:43:27,040 --> 02:43:29,400
Speaker 1: said after the draft he absolutely had him tagged in

3149
02:43:29,440 --> 02:43:32,039
Speaker 1: the fourth round as a sleeper and wanted him to

3150
02:43:32,040 --> 02:43:35,240
Speaker 1: be his next starting quarterback, and the Giants somehow found

3151
02:43:35,240 --> 02:43:39,400
Speaker 1: out about him and scapped him up in the first round.

3152
02:43:40,040 --> 02:43:43,120
Speaker 1: I just want to say last year it was you

3153
02:43:43,200 --> 02:43:48,039
Speaker 1: had a discussion about what it was and nothing I

3154
02:43:48,040 --> 02:43:49,600
Speaker 1: could describe it. And I'm sure I'm not going to

3155
02:43:49,760 --> 02:43:53,160
Speaker 1: use her accent, but Katherine Hepburn probably said it best

3156
02:43:53,640 --> 02:43:57,760
Speaker 1: there after she had and she said, I'm not really

3157
02:43:57,760 --> 02:44:01,360
Speaker 1: sure what it is, but what ever it is, I

3158
02:44:01,520 --> 02:44:07,680
Speaker 1: certainly haven't. I like that very much. I will tell you.

3159
02:44:07,879 --> 02:44:11,040
Speaker 1: In talking to Dave Gettleman during the combine, one of

3160
02:44:11,080 --> 02:44:13,760
Speaker 1: the things he said, and I do think this may

3161
02:44:13,879 --> 02:44:17,560
Speaker 1: help to find what it is. He talked about how

3162
02:44:17,600 --> 02:44:20,840
Speaker 1: a quarterback in particular more than any other position, but

3163
02:44:20,879 --> 02:44:23,920
Speaker 1: he also said that instincts are important on the field

3164
02:44:24,040 --> 02:44:28,360
Speaker 1: all over the schematic, but particularly for quarterbacks, and he

3165
02:44:28,440 --> 02:44:31,760
Speaker 1: said it's got to be a guy who can have

3166
02:44:31,920 --> 02:44:35,840
Speaker 1: a good feel for the game, okay, and be one

3167
02:44:35,920 --> 02:44:39,240
Speaker 1: step ahead of the play, and that goes to instincts

3168
02:44:39,280 --> 02:44:43,920
Speaker 1: and that that maybe even I don't know if it's

3169
02:44:44,520 --> 02:44:48,080
Speaker 1: a close definition to it or maybe it is actually it,

3170
02:44:48,720 --> 02:44:51,960
Speaker 1: but Dave Getleman to define that as a quarterback's instincts,

3171
02:44:51,959 --> 02:44:54,200
Speaker 1: and I think that's that's a pretty good way to go.

3172
02:44:54,320 --> 02:44:59,600
Speaker 1: Thank you, Angela, thank you to appreciate it well. Jalen Heard,

3173
02:44:59,640 --> 02:45:02,280
Speaker 1: who was another one of my wide receiver sleepers, when

3174
02:45:02,280 --> 02:45:04,480
Speaker 1: he goes to the forty nine ers, you know, this

3175
02:45:04,520 --> 02:45:06,600
Speaker 1: is this is what's fascinating about this year. I work

3176
02:45:06,680 --> 02:45:09,400
Speaker 1: up a hundred players are all going before the Giants.

3177
02:45:10,400 --> 02:45:13,200
Speaker 1: That's why I went. I did a hundred and seventy two.

3178
02:45:13,320 --> 02:45:15,480
Speaker 1: That's why I ran out of time. Paul, I have

3179
02:45:15,560 --> 02:45:19,400
Speaker 1: the responsibility. I get it. And then the Jets picked

3180
02:45:19,480 --> 02:45:23,000
Speaker 1: ure Kai polite edge rusher. Did I didn't see it?

3181
02:45:23,120 --> 02:45:25,720
Speaker 1: So they don't pick Josh Allen. They get another edge

3182
02:45:25,760 --> 02:45:27,879
Speaker 1: rusher instead, and round number three. I think that's a

3183
02:45:27,879 --> 02:45:30,959
Speaker 1: good good pick by the Jets there to get a

3184
02:45:31,080 --> 02:45:34,800
Speaker 1: pass rusher from the outside to compliment Quinnin Williams, who's

3185
02:45:34,840 --> 02:45:39,800
Speaker 1: just a beast inside. Yeah, I will tell you it's

3186
02:45:39,800 --> 02:45:43,039
Speaker 1: a risk. But it is a risk because uh, you

3187
02:45:43,080 --> 02:45:46,879
Speaker 1: know things I listed on him, uh very sensitive in

3188
02:45:46,959 --> 02:45:49,760
Speaker 1: terms of his personality. He gets to get bent out

3189
02:45:49,760 --> 02:45:52,200
Speaker 1: of shape, very easily. Well, they at the combine interviews

3190
02:45:52,200 --> 02:45:54,040
Speaker 1: and I don't mean the I don't mean the team interviews,

3191
02:45:54,040 --> 02:45:58,320
Speaker 1: that the media interviews, he was like mouthing off. Conditioning

3192
02:45:58,480 --> 02:45:59,879
Speaker 1: a bit of an issue for him. He put on

3193
02:46:00,000 --> 02:46:02,840
Speaker 1: only pounds between the combine and his pro day. Also

3194
02:46:02,920 --> 02:46:06,200
Speaker 1: not positive and not a guy who really is a

3195
02:46:06,240 --> 02:46:09,280
Speaker 1: studious about his working out, which also leads to that.

3196
02:46:09,640 --> 02:46:12,920
Speaker 1: So you know he can we say I think he

3197
02:46:13,040 --> 02:46:14,959
Speaker 1: is one of those boom er bust guys. He is.

3198
02:46:15,000 --> 02:46:18,480
Speaker 1: Do you remember what Dane Bruler called him? I don't

3199
02:46:19,520 --> 02:46:22,880
Speaker 1: a pass rushing assassin. Did never that he called him

3200
02:46:22,879 --> 02:46:25,120
Speaker 1: and did not remember that the combine. Yeah, so he

3201
02:46:25,200 --> 02:46:29,720
Speaker 1: certainly has the ability to to bend the edge. The Jaguars. Wow,

3202
02:46:30,240 --> 02:46:33,720
Speaker 1: Josh Oliver tight end. I watched a bunch of tight ends.

3203
02:46:33,720 --> 02:46:36,280
Speaker 1: I did not watch him tight end out of San

3204
02:46:36,400 --> 02:46:42,200
Speaker 1: Jose State goes to Tom Coughlin's Jacksonville. Jaguar did a

3205
02:46:42,240 --> 02:46:44,720
Speaker 1: lot on tight ends. I only did four. They're on seven.

3206
02:46:45,440 --> 02:46:47,960
Speaker 1: I got Jay Sternberger is the only other time I

3207
02:46:48,400 --> 02:46:50,880
Speaker 1: like Jay Sternberger, the only other one I got. I

3208
02:46:50,959 --> 02:46:52,600
Speaker 1: know people can think I'm crazy. I like him better

3209
02:46:52,640 --> 02:46:55,880
Speaker 1: than north Fan m I saw him as a move

3210
02:46:56,000 --> 02:46:58,200
Speaker 1: tight end, though I didn't have him as an inline guy.

3211
02:46:58,240 --> 02:46:59,840
Speaker 1: Well that's why. But that's why I compared him the

3212
02:46:59,840 --> 02:47:02,120
Speaker 1: fan though fancy on an the line guy either, But

3213
02:47:02,280 --> 02:47:04,840
Speaker 1: you know me, you know I like more than life.

3214
02:47:04,879 --> 02:47:08,160
Speaker 1: I didn't compare him to Hockinson. There you go. All right,

3215
02:47:08,200 --> 02:47:10,400
Speaker 1: let's go back to the phones. Chris in Florida and

3216
02:47:10,720 --> 02:47:12,640
Speaker 1: he says he's a big Detino fans. I'll go to

3217
02:47:12,720 --> 02:47:17,360
Speaker 1: him anyway. What's up, hello, I did that just to

3218
02:47:17,360 --> 02:47:23,640
Speaker 1: get under your skin. John, Well, you win, press, let's

3219
02:47:23,640 --> 02:47:28,520
Speaker 1: go on listening. I got a few questions one of

3220
02:47:28,560 --> 02:47:32,199
Speaker 1: the time, please, yeah, go ahead. What is our identity

3221
02:47:32,280 --> 02:47:35,680
Speaker 1: moving forward? Because the last time I felt like we

3222
02:47:35,760 --> 02:47:38,920
Speaker 1: were a defensive powerhouses when we won the championship with

3223
02:47:38,959 --> 02:47:41,800
Speaker 1: Michael Bowie on the team, and I know he had

3224
02:47:41,840 --> 02:47:46,040
Speaker 1: an issue that took him away from us, so you know,

3225
02:47:46,120 --> 02:47:50,039
Speaker 1: and and you know, uh, you know my present for

3226
02:47:50,160 --> 02:47:54,680
Speaker 1: his child. But as far as our de Frances concerned,

3227
02:47:54,920 --> 02:47:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, we're not a defensive power house anymore. And

3228
02:47:57,440 --> 02:48:02,880
Speaker 1: we passed up the opportunity to get defensive players, uh,

3229
02:48:02,920 --> 02:48:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, especially letting Josh Allen go to the Jags.

3230
02:48:06,480 --> 02:48:10,360
Speaker 1: And then I guess that's that's the lawrence is okay,

3231
02:48:10,440 --> 02:48:12,520
Speaker 1: But I would have preferred somebody else, But you know,

3232
02:48:12,520 --> 02:48:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you wanted him can answer that

3233
02:48:16,879 --> 02:48:19,400
Speaker 1: question first, well, I can tell you what their identity

3234
02:48:19,440 --> 02:48:22,200
Speaker 1: on offense is. If that helps, uh, I can tell

3235
02:48:22,200 --> 02:48:24,400
Speaker 1: you what James Betcher wants him to be on defense.

3236
02:48:24,400 --> 02:48:27,840
Speaker 1: He wants them to be then attacking, aggressive pressure defense

3237
02:48:27,879 --> 02:48:30,200
Speaker 1: that's gonna play bumping a run on the edge and

3238
02:48:30,320 --> 02:48:34,120
Speaker 1: try to speed up opposing offenses. The question is whether

3239
02:48:34,200 --> 02:48:36,000
Speaker 1: or not right now he is the personnel to do it.

3240
02:48:36,040 --> 02:48:38,200
Speaker 1: And that's what they're trying to do in Day two

3241
02:48:38,240 --> 02:48:41,080
Speaker 1: or Day three in this draft. And as Dave, I'll

3242
02:48:41,120 --> 02:48:43,480
Speaker 1: call Dave Gentlan and he said this yesterday when Kim

3243
02:48:43,560 --> 02:48:46,480
Speaker 1: Jones asked him who the players were that were screaming

3244
02:48:46,480 --> 02:48:49,080
Speaker 1: around the edge that will force him in into dexter lawrence,

3245
02:48:49,120 --> 02:48:51,000
Speaker 1: and he said, room wasn't built in a day, so

3246
02:48:51,040 --> 02:48:52,800
Speaker 1: he knows players still have to be added to get

3247
02:48:52,840 --> 02:48:55,000
Speaker 1: where he wants to go. But that's where he wants

3248
02:48:55,040 --> 02:48:57,480
Speaker 1: to go at pressuring defense that will play bumping run

3249
02:48:57,520 --> 02:49:01,240
Speaker 1: on the outside, stop the run after the quarterback. They're

3250
02:49:01,240 --> 02:49:02,920
Speaker 1: not there yet, you know. The personnel. But that's where

3251
02:49:02,920 --> 02:49:04,680
Speaker 1: they're trying to go. You know, God bless you if

3252
02:49:04,720 --> 02:49:06,959
Speaker 1: you were listening to our show a couple of hours ago.

3253
02:49:07,080 --> 02:49:09,200
Speaker 1: But that's when I kind of broke down the situation

3254
02:49:09,240 --> 02:49:11,240
Speaker 1: where you say, look, there's part one to the plan,

3255
02:49:11,680 --> 02:49:14,280
Speaker 1: then there's part two and part three. What Gentleman is

3256
02:49:14,320 --> 02:49:17,800
Speaker 1: basically telling everybody is, hey, there is a part two

3257
02:49:17,959 --> 02:49:19,879
Speaker 1: or a part three to this, and I'm just not

3258
02:49:19,879 --> 02:49:22,320
Speaker 1: going to tell you about it, but there is another

3259
02:49:22,400 --> 02:49:24,560
Speaker 1: part to the plan. You just have to be patient.

3260
02:49:25,080 --> 02:49:27,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I look, I tell people all the time,

3261
02:49:27,080 --> 02:49:30,360
Speaker 1: my goodness, if you based it everything you think about

3262
02:49:30,400 --> 02:49:32,960
Speaker 1: the draft on what happens on the first day for

3263
02:49:33,000 --> 02:49:36,000
Speaker 1: your football team, then you're you're you're just out of

3264
02:49:36,040 --> 02:49:39,040
Speaker 1: your mind. You gotta wait till it's over there. But

3265
02:49:39,400 --> 02:49:44,520
Speaker 1: I just wanted to know what our identity moving forward

3266
02:49:44,680 --> 02:49:48,440
Speaker 1: is because we've always had the identity of being a

3267
02:49:48,560 --> 02:49:52,680
Speaker 1: defensive powerhouse. That's the reason why ELI was successful in

3268
02:49:52,879 --> 02:49:56,120
Speaker 1: getting two Super Bowls and becoming the super Bowl Chris, Chris,

3269
02:49:56,200 --> 02:50:00,520
Speaker 1: they want to be a team. He know, he might

3270
02:50:00,560 --> 02:50:02,840
Speaker 1: not be that popular guy, and I'm not one of

3271
02:50:02,879 --> 02:50:06,200
Speaker 1: the people calls for rather be getting rid of and

3272
02:50:06,320 --> 02:50:10,920
Speaker 1: next was so confusing because you know, you draft a guy.

3273
02:50:12,720 --> 02:50:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't even want to get into the draft as

3274
02:50:14,720 --> 02:50:20,040
Speaker 1: as far as like the guy that they picked. I'm

3275
02:50:20,080 --> 02:50:24,400
Speaker 1: only gonna what I supposed to. Chris here, Chris, Here's

3276
02:50:24,400 --> 02:50:28,040
Speaker 1: what they're building towards. They want to be a team,

3277
02:50:28,200 --> 02:50:30,959
Speaker 1: excuse me, that'll run the ball on offense, play action,

3278
02:50:31,000 --> 02:50:33,400
Speaker 1: pass off of that, make some big plays down the

3279
02:50:33,400 --> 02:50:35,920
Speaker 1: field in the play action, control the line of scrimmage

3280
02:50:35,920 --> 02:50:38,320
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, get after the quarterback,

3281
02:50:38,680 --> 02:50:41,720
Speaker 1: forced turnovers, and be a physical team on the outside

3282
02:50:41,720 --> 02:50:44,160
Speaker 1: with wide receivers. They're not there yet, but that's where

3283
02:50:44,160 --> 02:50:46,199
Speaker 1: they want to go. That's where the identity is going

3284
02:50:46,240 --> 02:50:49,080
Speaker 1: to be. There's no surprise that they drafted DeAndre Baker,

3285
02:50:49,080 --> 02:50:51,320
Speaker 1: a guy that wants to be physical with wide receivers.

3286
02:50:51,480 --> 02:50:54,080
Speaker 1: He matches up perfectly with you, Norris Jenkins. They got

3287
02:50:54,120 --> 02:50:58,200
Speaker 1: three defensive tackles that are monsters of men. Uh, you

3288
02:50:58,280 --> 02:51:01,160
Speaker 1: got Hill, Tomlinson. H Let's cut you up real quickly.

3289
02:51:01,240 --> 02:51:03,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to take up too much your time. Yeah. Um,

3290
02:51:03,800 --> 02:51:06,960
Speaker 1: speaking of DeAndre, why is he better than Murphy? That

3291
02:51:07,000 --> 02:51:08,720
Speaker 1: was my second question Byron Murphy is more of his

3292
02:51:08,800 --> 02:51:12,160
Speaker 1: own corner. He's smaller. Um, if you're primarily a zone defense,

3293
02:51:12,200 --> 02:51:14,600
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy's probably the better player for you. But the

3294
02:51:14,640 --> 02:51:17,000
Speaker 1: way the Giants want to play, Baker is a better

3295
02:51:17,000 --> 02:51:19,320
Speaker 1: scheme fit because he's more physical with the line of scrimmage.

3296
02:51:19,360 --> 02:51:21,960
Speaker 1: Murphy plays almost exclusively off coverage. You don't want to

3297
02:51:22,040 --> 02:51:23,720
Speaker 1: play a bump and run at the line of scrimmage.

3298
02:51:23,800 --> 02:51:30,039
Speaker 1: Baker is more physical. And then the third question, weren't

3299
02:51:30,080 --> 02:51:35,560
Speaker 1: there really I need to get to pass up Josh Allen?

3300
02:51:35,640 --> 02:51:42,240
Speaker 1: Like for for for that guy, like was Daniel Jones?

3301
02:51:43,040 --> 02:51:47,000
Speaker 1: What was the rush? Like we couldn't wait, No, no, no, Chris, honestly,

3302
02:51:47,040 --> 02:51:49,200
Speaker 1: and and and thanks for the call. We appreciate it.

3303
02:51:49,440 --> 02:51:53,480
Speaker 1: They couldn't wait. They believed that he was the guy,

3304
02:51:53,640 --> 02:51:57,959
Speaker 1: They had him as the next franchise quarterback, and they

3305
02:51:58,000 --> 02:51:59,960
Speaker 1: did not want to risk him not being there, it said,

3306
02:52:00,000 --> 02:52:03,080
Speaker 1: and team as Tony Pauline said he believes that teams

3307
02:52:03,080 --> 02:52:05,199
Speaker 1: would have traded up ahead of the Giants to get him.

3308
02:52:05,360 --> 02:52:07,840
Speaker 1: Jenny Venturous treated last night, he would not have been there,

3309
02:52:07,840 --> 02:52:09,879
Speaker 1: for he would not have been there at seventeen for

3310
02:52:09,920 --> 02:52:12,560
Speaker 1: the Giants. Uh Jim Nagy said that he knew more

3311
02:52:12,600 --> 02:52:16,160
Speaker 1: teams that had Jones at Haskins and Haskins ahead of Jones.

3312
02:52:16,680 --> 02:52:19,840
Speaker 1: So even though the media portrayed him as a late

3313
02:52:19,879 --> 02:52:23,960
Speaker 1: first second round quarterback, NFL teams did not. That's why

3314
02:52:24,000 --> 02:52:26,720
Speaker 1: the Giants could not wait. And I'll say it. I

3315
02:52:26,760 --> 02:52:29,360
Speaker 1: said it before, I'll say it again. If you're getting

3316
02:52:29,360 --> 02:52:33,080
Speaker 1: your franchise quarterback, Paul, there is not a price that's

3317
02:52:33,120 --> 02:52:35,119
Speaker 1: too high to pay. Now, we'll just have to waiting

3318
02:52:35,120 --> 02:52:37,920
Speaker 1: to see if he is that next guy. We may

3319
02:52:37,959 --> 02:52:40,240
Speaker 1: have to put that answer on a loop because you're

3320
02:52:40,280 --> 02:52:42,440
Speaker 1: going to have to repeat it at least five thousand

3321
02:52:42,520 --> 02:52:46,840
Speaker 1: tunas in the next foremast. It's important. Well, it's honestly.

3322
02:52:46,840 --> 02:52:49,280
Speaker 1: I feel bad for the fans because well I do.

3323
02:52:49,480 --> 02:52:52,360
Speaker 1: But there was a shock value that that really hit

3324
02:52:52,400 --> 02:52:54,360
Speaker 1: them and I and I get it too, I I

3325
02:52:54,600 --> 02:52:56,039
Speaker 1: and I've said that. I said it at the club

3326
02:52:56,120 --> 02:52:58,240
Speaker 1: last night, I said it on MSG, I said it

3327
02:52:58,240 --> 02:53:01,240
Speaker 1: on w f AN. The shock value was was really

3328
02:53:01,560 --> 02:53:06,440
Speaker 1: really sharp. But again, it is what it is. And

3329
02:53:06,440 --> 02:53:10,199
Speaker 1: and I remember years ago, Okay, I remember years ago,

3330
02:53:11,000 --> 02:53:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, talking about a draft pick. And I'm not

3331
02:53:13,640 --> 02:53:15,800
Speaker 1: sure who exactly it was, John, but here was the

3332
02:53:15,840 --> 02:53:18,920
Speaker 1: thing I said, Hey, the picks been made, the guys

3333
02:53:18,959 --> 02:53:22,320
Speaker 1: on the team. You can root for him if you like,

3334
02:53:22,720 --> 02:53:25,000
Speaker 1: you cannot root for him. If you like, you can

3335
02:53:25,040 --> 02:53:27,840
Speaker 1: talk about how he might be utilized to help your

3336
02:53:27,840 --> 02:53:31,880
Speaker 1: team get better. But to keep repeating, I can't believe

3337
02:53:31,920 --> 02:53:35,680
Speaker 1: we took the guy. It doesn't and it's no use.

3338
02:53:35,840 --> 02:53:37,560
Speaker 1: And the reason I feel bad for the fans it

3339
02:53:37,640 --> 02:53:40,760
Speaker 1: is not because it's shock value. It's because and look,

3340
02:53:40,800 --> 02:53:42,520
Speaker 1: we're part of the problem, I guess, because we have

3341
02:53:42,560 --> 02:53:44,280
Speaker 1: all the draft guys on the show and haven't talked

3342
02:53:44,280 --> 02:53:48,320
Speaker 1: about it. But all they know is what media analysts say.

3343
02:53:48,360 --> 02:53:50,360
Speaker 1: And the media analysts do the best they can. They're

3344
02:53:50,360 --> 02:53:53,600
Speaker 1: not scouts. They're using all the information they possibly can

3345
02:53:53,640 --> 02:53:56,440
Speaker 1: to come to their best conclusion and they're not doing

3346
02:53:56,440 --> 02:53:59,800
Speaker 1: anything wrong. It's their opinion. Teams have more information and

3347
02:54:00,240 --> 02:54:03,160
Speaker 1: they come to different opinions. But fans were just knocked

3348
02:54:03,200 --> 02:54:05,760
Speaker 1: over the head again and again and again with he's

3349
02:54:05,800 --> 02:54:07,480
Speaker 1: not worth it. He's not worth it. He's not a

3350
02:54:07,480 --> 02:54:09,400
Speaker 1: first round player. He's not a first round player. And

3351
02:54:09,400 --> 02:54:12,040
Speaker 1: that's all the fans heard. If you go back twenty

3352
02:54:12,120 --> 02:54:13,959
Speaker 1: years and milk Kiper is the only guy doing this,

3353
02:54:14,440 --> 02:54:17,000
Speaker 1: and he actually had Daniel Jones as a first round player.

3354
02:54:17,440 --> 02:54:20,240
Speaker 1: The whole reaction to this pick is different. You know,

3355
02:54:20,320 --> 02:54:22,039
Speaker 1: I remember when I was a little kid, John, maybe

3356
02:54:22,080 --> 02:54:24,720
Speaker 1: this happen to you too. I remember, you know, my

3357
02:54:24,720 --> 02:54:27,520
Speaker 1: my parents looking for new furniture. I data we had

3358
02:54:27,520 --> 02:54:32,320
Speaker 1: electricity when I was a kid. Good comeback and and

3359
02:54:32,320 --> 02:54:34,080
Speaker 1: and I'd have to get in the car with my

3360
02:54:34,160 --> 02:54:36,120
Speaker 1: little brother, and we'd have to go look at furniture.

3361
02:54:36,959 --> 02:54:39,800
Speaker 1: And after stopping about you know, the fourth or fifth

3362
02:54:39,800 --> 02:54:43,080
Speaker 1: furniture store. You know, after a couple of weeks, I

3363
02:54:43,200 --> 02:54:45,760
Speaker 1: kept complaining, why do we have to go? Why do

3364
02:54:45,800 --> 02:54:47,760
Speaker 1: I have to go keep looking at furniture with you guys?

3365
02:54:47,800 --> 02:54:49,120
Speaker 1: Why do we have to keep going? I want to

3366
02:54:49,120 --> 02:54:54,480
Speaker 1: look at game film, Yeah, the eight milliads with the

3367
02:54:55,000 --> 02:54:58,680
Speaker 1: with the projector yes. And you know what, Finally my

3368
02:54:58,760 --> 02:55:02,120
Speaker 1: dad said to me, Hey, it's not gonna do you

3369
02:55:02,160 --> 02:55:04,800
Speaker 1: any good to complain about it. We need the furniture.

3370
02:55:05,000 --> 02:55:07,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna find the furniture that we're going to buy.

3371
02:55:07,720 --> 02:55:10,360
Speaker 1: You're going with putting out, You're coming with us. There's

3372
02:55:10,400 --> 02:55:12,800
Speaker 1: no point in talking about it because we can't leave

3373
02:55:12,840 --> 02:55:14,960
Speaker 1: you home alone. You and your brother were too young,

3374
02:55:15,280 --> 02:55:17,800
Speaker 1: So you're coming and that's it. You might as well

3375
02:55:17,800 --> 02:55:20,480
Speaker 1: stop complaining about it because it's not gonna help. Well.

3376
02:55:20,520 --> 02:55:23,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been complaining to the people above me

3377
02:55:23,560 --> 02:55:24,920
Speaker 1: that I have to do shows with you for the

3378
02:55:24,959 --> 02:55:28,400
Speaker 1: last eight years and he's still here. So it doesn't

3379
02:55:28,400 --> 02:55:30,960
Speaker 1: think any good trust me going into my thirty seventh

3380
02:55:30,959 --> 02:55:35,040
Speaker 1: season and counting since n seven. Is that what you said?

3381
02:55:36,959 --> 02:55:39,720
Speaker 1: Five on three? A couple other players off the board.

3382
02:55:40,240 --> 02:55:42,720
Speaker 1: Darryl Henderson running back into Memphis. A lot of people

3383
02:55:42,720 --> 02:55:44,680
Speaker 1: like him as an all around three down back, goes

3384
02:55:44,720 --> 02:55:47,240
Speaker 1: to the Rams. Oh, they're worried about Todd Gurley's knee.

3385
02:55:47,280 --> 02:55:49,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Different

3386
02:55:49,160 --> 02:55:51,959
Speaker 1: style of back he is. He's a smaller guy for sure. Um.

3387
02:55:52,000 --> 02:55:54,280
Speaker 1: I think he's under two hundred pounds actually. Um. New

3388
02:55:54,320 --> 02:55:57,240
Speaker 1: York Giants. Uh, this would have been their selection if

3389
02:55:57,240 --> 02:55:59,160
Speaker 1: they had not used it on Sam Bill in the

3390
02:56:00,000 --> 02:56:06,120
Speaker 1: expansion draft. So that what draft to draft and a

3391
02:56:06,120 --> 02:56:08,240
Speaker 1: long shot, that's my first mistake. I'm actually doing. Okay,

3392
02:56:08,480 --> 02:56:11,360
Speaker 1: uh seventy first big overall, the Denver Broncos selected the

3393
02:56:11,360 --> 02:56:14,120
Speaker 1: best DT left on the board, Draymond Jones out of

3394
02:56:14,160 --> 02:56:17,359
Speaker 1: Ohio State, who's kind of one of those tantalizing athletes,

3395
02:56:17,920 --> 02:56:20,959
Speaker 1: but doesn't quite reach the potential sometimes you want him

3396
02:56:20,959 --> 02:56:22,920
Speaker 1: to reach in his game tape. Can we look at

3397
02:56:22,920 --> 02:56:24,720
Speaker 1: the numbers here for a second, John, this is picked

3398
02:56:24,800 --> 02:56:28,640
Speaker 1: number seventy two overall with the Cincinnati Bengals. Again, the

3399
02:56:28,680 --> 02:56:33,320
Speaker 1: Giants are at so we're twenty three picks away unless

3400
02:56:33,360 --> 02:56:36,760
Speaker 1: the Giants are to make a move upward from them

3401
02:56:36,800 --> 02:56:39,520
Speaker 1: making their third round selection. Can I give you some names,

3402
02:56:41,160 --> 02:56:46,080
Speaker 1: just players that I think are good? Okay? DeAndre Walker Georgia. Yeah,

3403
02:56:46,240 --> 02:56:48,720
Speaker 1: I looked at him, He's all right. Chauncey Gardner, Johnson

3404
02:56:48,800 --> 02:56:52,000
Speaker 1: safety out of Florida, not bad at all. Good player. Um.

3405
02:56:52,040 --> 02:56:55,120
Speaker 1: If you want a wide receiver, Kelvin Harmon, NC State,

3406
02:56:55,280 --> 02:56:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest fan of his band, know some

3407
02:56:56,959 --> 02:56:59,800
Speaker 1: people are. If you want an inside lineback with the

3408
02:56:59,800 --> 02:57:01,640
Speaker 1: thumb a little bit, Mack Wilson stole on the board

3409
02:57:01,640 --> 02:57:05,760
Speaker 1: out of Alabama, Do you have any interest there? Again?

3410
02:57:06,240 --> 02:57:09,000
Speaker 1: At this point, once you get well, actually usually once

3411
02:57:09,000 --> 02:57:10,560
Speaker 1: you get to the fourth round, you start why you

3412
02:57:10,600 --> 02:57:12,000
Speaker 1: need a little bit. A lot of people though mack

3413
02:57:12,000 --> 02:57:14,440
Speaker 1: Wilson was a was a second round back. Third Yeah,

3414
02:57:14,520 --> 02:57:17,800
Speaker 1: third round, you're still supposed to be thinking value first, right,

3415
02:57:17,879 --> 02:57:20,000
Speaker 1: Mack Wilson's a good player, yeah, and and he is,

3416
02:57:20,200 --> 02:57:23,080
Speaker 1: And that's why that would become tough to The problem

3417
02:57:23,080 --> 02:57:27,280
Speaker 1: aving John is that we both agree the Giants are

3418
02:57:27,320 --> 02:57:29,959
Speaker 1: gonna be in a real danger zone if they don't

3419
02:57:30,000 --> 02:57:32,960
Speaker 1: take either a right tackle or a pass rusher in

3420
02:57:33,040 --> 02:57:35,440
Speaker 1: round three, it's gonna be really hard to get someone

3421
02:57:35,440 --> 02:57:37,640
Speaker 1: in round four. I'm getting there. Uh. Do you like

3422
02:57:37,760 --> 02:57:41,600
Speaker 1: Deante Thompson's safety at Alabama? Actually he's one of the

3423
02:57:41,680 --> 02:57:43,640
Speaker 1: better safeties. Yeah. I mean, he's some injury issues. He

3424
02:57:43,640 --> 02:57:46,360
Speaker 1: didn't really do it pus, but no one has a

3425
02:57:46,440 --> 02:57:48,280
Speaker 1: time speed on him, which is why I think people

3426
02:57:48,320 --> 02:57:50,200
Speaker 1: kind of run scared from that. And by the way,

3427
02:57:50,240 --> 02:57:51,920
Speaker 1: the reason he doesn't have a time speed, I think

3428
02:57:51,920 --> 02:57:53,800
Speaker 1: this is why teams are down on him. He said,

3429
02:57:53,800 --> 02:57:57,199
Speaker 1: I can't run a forty because I have a broken wrist.

3430
02:57:58,200 --> 02:58:00,840
Speaker 1: Why would that prevent you for running a forty? Are dash? Exactly?

3431
02:58:01,240 --> 02:58:03,400
Speaker 1: He ran the three cone, but he's not gonna run

3432
02:58:03,400 --> 02:58:05,120
Speaker 1: the forty because of a broken wrist. Do you know

3433
02:58:05,160 --> 02:58:06,920
Speaker 1: why he doesn't want to run the forty Because it's

3434
02:58:06,920 --> 02:58:10,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a bad time likely And by the way,

3435
02:58:11,080 --> 02:58:13,000
Speaker 1: a linebacker that I liked that. I thought it could

3436
02:58:13,000 --> 02:58:15,959
Speaker 1: have been an option for the Giants. He's a converted safety.

3437
02:58:16,400 --> 02:58:19,920
Speaker 1: Germaine Pratt out of NC State goes to the Cincinnati

3438
02:58:19,959 --> 02:58:22,800
Speaker 1: Bengals here at pick seventy two overall. I like, he's

3439
02:58:22,800 --> 02:58:26,720
Speaker 1: a good player. You know, you're talking about some names,

3440
02:58:26,800 --> 02:58:28,400
Speaker 1: John and I get it, and I'm not denying that

3441
02:58:28,440 --> 02:58:31,039
Speaker 1: there's some value with those guys. Again, I'm trying to

3442
02:58:31,120 --> 02:58:33,840
Speaker 1: match value with need. And I see Chase Winovich there

3443
02:58:33,879 --> 02:58:36,080
Speaker 1: and even Pauline liked him. I'm going he was the

3444
02:58:36,080 --> 02:58:38,560
Speaker 1: next guy in my last action and produced in Prince.

3445
02:58:38,680 --> 02:58:41,600
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are these guys are absolutely going

3446
02:58:41,640 --> 02:58:44,000
Speaker 1: to compete for a starting right tackle job. I'm not

3447
02:58:44,040 --> 02:58:46,640
Speaker 1: as high in Prince as you guys are. That's okay,

3448
02:58:47,000 --> 02:58:50,480
Speaker 1: that's fine. Uh. I'm not gonna pick a running back.

3449
02:58:50,520 --> 02:58:54,160
Speaker 1: I like Max Crosby. Anthony Nelson still there, Jalen Ferguson

3450
02:58:54,200 --> 02:58:55,560
Speaker 1: still on the board too. If you look at that,

3451
02:58:56,200 --> 02:59:07,039
Speaker 1: there's actually four edge players that I would consider selecting. Winovich, Ferguson, Nelson, Crosby,

3452
02:59:07,120 --> 02:59:08,920
Speaker 1: and you know I'm throwing Christian Millier in the mix too.

3453
02:59:09,400 --> 02:59:12,879
Speaker 1: Those are the five players I'm watching If any of

3454
02:59:12,920 --> 02:59:16,960
Speaker 1: those five guys are available in round three, I'm gonna

3455
02:59:16,959 --> 02:59:19,199
Speaker 1: have a hard time stepping away from that because you remember,

3456
02:59:19,400 --> 02:59:23,039
Speaker 1: there's only between the Giants third round pick, which is

3457
02:59:23,040 --> 02:59:25,480
Speaker 1: at number thirty at number thirty two in the third round,

3458
02:59:25,560 --> 02:59:29,800
Speaker 1: and they're picking quickly, but overall there is only let's

3459
02:59:29,840 --> 02:59:35,320
Speaker 1: see seven twelve picks until they select in round number four,

3460
02:59:35,480 --> 02:59:38,760
Speaker 1: so it's not a long wait. Now. So are they

3461
02:59:38,760 --> 02:59:40,959
Speaker 1: gonna play the game, Paul, where all right, we liked

3462
02:59:40,959 --> 02:59:44,360
Speaker 1: you guys, which guy is more likely to be there

3463
02:59:44,360 --> 02:59:46,760
Speaker 1: in twelve picks? Do you risk playing that game where

3464
02:59:46,800 --> 02:59:48,520
Speaker 1: you just picked the best guy? No? I think you

3465
02:59:48,600 --> 02:59:51,040
Speaker 1: gotta pick the best guy. It's still the third round,

3466
02:59:51,480 --> 02:59:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, you don't start going off best guy usually

3467
02:59:54,680 --> 02:59:56,959
Speaker 1: until the fourth whatever the two guys that are really close,

3468
02:59:59,120 --> 03:00:00,600
Speaker 1: and then again you got the whole thing with the

3469
03:00:00,600 --> 03:00:02,920
Speaker 1: depth of position to that's still available on the board

3470
03:00:02,959 --> 03:00:05,400
Speaker 1: that I like this Big David Montgomery to the Bears.

3471
03:00:05,440 --> 03:00:07,440
Speaker 1: He's a heck of a football player out of Iowa

3472
03:00:07,520 --> 03:00:12,199
Speaker 1: State twenty two, really elusive. Remember they traded Jordan Howard

3473
03:00:12,280 --> 03:00:13,800
Speaker 1: to the Eagles in the off season. He's going to

3474
03:00:13,879 --> 03:00:17,680
Speaker 1: replace him. You put him with their with their little guy. Three.

3475
03:00:17,680 --> 03:00:21,080
Speaker 1: Cohen's the heck of a combination. Yeah, that's a good move.

3476
03:00:21,160 --> 03:00:24,520
Speaker 1: I can absolutely see that one. We see the graphic

3477
03:00:24,560 --> 03:00:28,760
Speaker 1: on the screen. That's his pro football focus. Forced missed

3478
03:00:28,800 --> 03:00:32,480
Speaker 1: tackles the most in FBS in two thousand eighteen. Doesn't

3479
03:00:32,480 --> 03:00:34,800
Speaker 1: surprise me at all. Very elusive. Let's go to len

3480
03:00:34,879 --> 03:00:37,520
Speaker 1: him Maryland, who's up next? Lend good to hear from

3481
03:00:37,560 --> 03:00:41,840
Speaker 1: your buddy. Line four, How are you? Thanks for being on?

3482
03:00:41,879 --> 03:00:48,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, trying to make it um. It sounded

3483
03:00:48,120 --> 03:00:50,720
Speaker 1: like you too good in talking to Tony. When you

3484
03:00:50,760 --> 03:00:54,120
Speaker 1: were talking to Tony, it sounded like both of you

3485
03:00:55,120 --> 03:00:59,240
Speaker 1: like Baker better than Tony did. Yeah, and yeah, I

3486
03:00:59,280 --> 03:01:02,119
Speaker 1: would fall into I would fall into your camp. I agree.

3487
03:01:02,320 --> 03:01:04,920
Speaker 1: I think that was a really good pick. Gave up

3488
03:01:04,920 --> 03:01:06,520
Speaker 1: a lot. I gotta be honest with you. To me,

3489
03:01:06,680 --> 03:01:10,160
Speaker 1: corners were packed very tightly at the top of that

3490
03:01:10,200 --> 03:01:12,560
Speaker 1: second round. I tried to sort them on Wednesday night

3491
03:01:12,600 --> 03:01:15,280
Speaker 1: at home when I was watching, uh the Yankees play

3492
03:01:15,320 --> 03:01:18,160
Speaker 1: the Angels at ten o'clock, and I honestly had so

3493
03:01:18,320 --> 03:01:20,959
Speaker 1: much trouble I i quit because I thought the guys

3494
03:01:21,000 --> 03:01:25,000
Speaker 1: were so close together. Ranked at the top of the round.

3495
03:01:25,000 --> 03:01:26,240
Speaker 1: And by the way, based on how the top of

3496
03:01:26,240 --> 03:01:28,000
Speaker 1: the second round went, I think the league had it

3497
03:01:28,040 --> 03:01:29,480
Speaker 1: that way too, because a bunch of guys win in

3498
03:01:29,520 --> 03:01:31,920
Speaker 1: the top ten of that round. So uh, the Giants

3499
03:01:32,000 --> 03:01:34,640
Speaker 1: must have had him as their clear cutting number one guy.

3500
03:01:35,000 --> 03:01:38,120
Speaker 1: That's why they went to Just remember he was the

3501
03:01:38,200 --> 03:01:41,280
Speaker 1: Jim Thorpe Award winner as the nation's best defensive back

3502
03:01:41,560 --> 03:01:44,160
Speaker 1: in n C double A. So a lot of people,

3503
03:01:44,600 --> 03:01:47,560
Speaker 1: regardless of what flavor you liked, a lot of people

3504
03:01:47,640 --> 03:01:51,480
Speaker 1: did recognize quality there. Paul, let me try this sound

3505
03:01:51,560 --> 03:01:54,320
Speaker 1: on you. I tried it this afternoon and talking to

3506
03:01:54,400 --> 03:01:57,360
Speaker 1: John and he disagreed with me slightly. Still on still

3507
03:01:57,400 --> 03:02:02,160
Speaker 1: on Baker. Uh. If Baker is a tick faster in

3508
03:02:02,200 --> 03:02:06,280
Speaker 1: the forty and is eight to ten pounds heavier, he's

3509
03:02:06,320 --> 03:02:10,600
Speaker 1: a top ten pick. Now. John corrected me and said, no,

3510
03:02:10,800 --> 03:02:14,800
Speaker 1: probably top twenty. But I like this guy. Yeah, I

3511
03:02:14,840 --> 03:02:16,840
Speaker 1: think I think this guy is going to have the

3512
03:02:16,879 --> 03:02:20,760
Speaker 1: ability too, you know, much like Eli shake it off

3513
03:02:20,800 --> 03:02:24,480
Speaker 1: pretty quickly and I'm gonna say, put it behind you,

3514
03:02:24,480 --> 03:02:26,800
Speaker 1: you go onto the next one. Yeah, I think he

3515
03:02:27,000 --> 03:02:28,480
Speaker 1: Baker is the kind of guy who will come back

3516
03:02:28,480 --> 03:02:30,280
Speaker 1: and knock your block off on the next place now.

3517
03:02:31,360 --> 03:02:34,000
Speaker 1: And he also apparently interviewed poorly a little bit at

3518
03:02:34,000 --> 03:02:36,400
Speaker 1: the combine. Tony mentioned that he didn't prepare well for

3519
03:02:36,440 --> 03:02:39,480
Speaker 1: the drolls at the combines, and I think if those

3520
03:02:39,879 --> 03:02:43,400
Speaker 1: issues weren't there, then maybe you are talking top fifteen.

3521
03:02:43,560 --> 03:02:45,120
Speaker 1: But with them there, I don't think he would have

3522
03:02:45,160 --> 03:02:48,959
Speaker 1: gotten inside inside that top ten. Yeah, maybe a tick

3523
03:02:49,040 --> 03:02:51,600
Speaker 1: or two on the numbers. He goes up another tent picks.

3524
03:02:51,680 --> 03:02:53,320
Speaker 1: I just don't see him as high as you did.

3525
03:02:53,840 --> 03:02:55,520
Speaker 1: You know, you know what I you know what I

3526
03:02:55,520 --> 03:03:01,119
Speaker 1: feel about that interview. Guys um a little bit of swagger.

3527
03:03:02,080 --> 03:03:06,400
Speaker 1: I think he dude, he is he is drin to

3528
03:03:06,480 --> 03:03:08,720
Speaker 1: start talking about not giving up a touchdown in two an.

3529
03:03:09,280 --> 03:03:11,320
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it, And you know what,

3530
03:03:11,440 --> 03:03:13,880
Speaker 1: you want your corners to kind of feel that way.

3531
03:03:13,920 --> 03:03:15,879
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want to be so cocky that

3532
03:03:15,920 --> 03:03:18,320
Speaker 1: they don't work hard and they don't try to approve,

3533
03:03:18,760 --> 03:03:21,039
Speaker 1: and that you know they think they can do no wrong.

3534
03:03:21,280 --> 03:03:25,520
Speaker 1: But you absolutely want them to be confident. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

3535
03:03:25,520 --> 03:03:27,720
Speaker 1: I agree. Listen. Let me let me ask you another question.

3536
03:03:27,720 --> 03:03:30,240
Speaker 1: The one position that we don't seem to be talking

3537
03:03:30,280 --> 03:03:33,879
Speaker 1: about leading up to the draft and really the whole

3538
03:03:33,879 --> 03:03:38,200
Speaker 1: off season. What what do you guys think about a

3539
03:03:38,360 --> 03:03:42,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver corps. I'm I'm a little concerned. I would

3540
03:03:42,280 --> 03:03:45,640
Speaker 1: like to add one young wide receiver in this draft. Absolutely,

3541
03:03:45,720 --> 03:03:47,600
Speaker 1: and I'm with and I like it to be a

3542
03:03:47,640 --> 03:03:49,879
Speaker 1: big bodied guy. And by the way, one name I

3543
03:03:49,879 --> 03:03:52,120
Speaker 1: didn't mention if he somehow guests at the end of

3544
03:03:52,120 --> 03:03:54,560
Speaker 1: the round, I will take a key butler on this

3545
03:03:54,640 --> 03:03:58,160
Speaker 1: team in about one point two seconds. Absolutely, But for me,

3546
03:03:58,400 --> 03:04:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm waiting till the fourth round of what I think

3547
03:04:00,360 --> 03:04:03,640
Speaker 1: about any receipt he's getting there. You're gonna take a

3548
03:04:03,720 --> 03:04:06,160
Speaker 1: keen butler before you take maybe you could Juice. Maybe

3549
03:04:06,160 --> 03:04:08,120
Speaker 1: he's one of it. I would I might pick him

3550
03:04:08,160 --> 03:04:11,080
Speaker 1: before Couljuiced. I think there's a better chance could Juice

3551
03:04:11,160 --> 03:04:13,880
Speaker 1: is there in the fourth round than Fast the thing

3552
03:04:13,920 --> 03:04:16,880
Speaker 1: we couldjuice Paul, he's so raw, he ain't playing this year.

3553
03:04:16,920 --> 03:04:19,400
Speaker 1: In my opinion, he's a project. Ask you a question.

3554
03:04:19,480 --> 03:04:23,320
Speaker 1: Probably let me ask you guys a question. Juice and

3555
03:04:23,320 --> 03:04:25,840
Speaker 1: and the other offensive lineman that are left here in

3556
03:04:25,840 --> 03:04:29,119
Speaker 1: the draft, particularly the tackles. Prince is more ready right

3557
03:04:29,160 --> 03:04:31,520
Speaker 1: now than could Uice. This that's true. What do we

3558
03:04:31,840 --> 03:04:36,760
Speaker 1: what do we expect Produice to do for us? Everyson?

3559
03:04:36,800 --> 03:04:40,120
Speaker 1: Why I asked that it seems further we go without

3560
03:04:40,120 --> 03:04:44,000
Speaker 1: picking that offensive lineman. I'm thinking they're really counting on

3561
03:04:45,680 --> 03:04:48,680
Speaker 1: passing the physical and coming in here and giving us

3562
03:04:48,680 --> 03:04:53,800
Speaker 1: one or two years. Well, there's certainly a very strong possibility, okay,

3563
03:04:53,800 --> 03:04:55,879
Speaker 1: since he is still out there and has not visited

3564
03:04:55,920 --> 03:04:59,039
Speaker 1: any other teams, that he will make a boomerang trip

3565
03:04:59,080 --> 03:05:01,520
Speaker 1: to the Giants and they will add him. He's also

3566
03:05:01,600 --> 03:05:04,440
Speaker 1: thirty one years old, and he is coming off of

3567
03:05:04,560 --> 03:05:07,640
Speaker 1: rehab from minor back surgery. So the truth of the

3568
03:05:07,640 --> 03:05:11,400
Speaker 1: matter is, I would say, if you can draft a

3569
03:05:11,560 --> 03:05:14,480
Speaker 1: right tackle who you believe can compete as a starter,

3570
03:05:14,920 --> 03:05:17,800
Speaker 1: you do that. Whether or not you believe Remors is

3571
03:05:17,840 --> 03:05:20,440
Speaker 1: coming back to sign. That just seems to me that

3572
03:05:20,520 --> 03:05:25,200
Speaker 1: Remors is a is either a a good insurance policy

3573
03:05:25,680 --> 03:05:28,280
Speaker 1: or b beats out whoever it is that you have

3574
03:05:28,320 --> 03:05:30,480
Speaker 1: on the roster at the time, Which is why to

3575
03:05:30,560 --> 03:05:33,800
Speaker 1: some degree could choose there isn't a bad idea because

3576
03:05:33,879 --> 03:05:36,600
Speaker 1: if you bring him in, well, now he battles with

3577
03:05:36,640 --> 03:05:39,560
Speaker 1: Wheeler and he battles with Remors. If he signs, may

3578
03:05:39,640 --> 03:05:43,199
Speaker 1: the best of the three start opening day. Yeah, yeah, okay,

3579
03:05:43,240 --> 03:05:44,920
Speaker 1: I can you know, I can follow that. I just

3580
03:05:44,959 --> 03:05:47,320
Speaker 1: think it's it's it's we put. I don't want to

3581
03:05:47,360 --> 03:05:49,120
Speaker 1: say it's back on the you know, it's on the

3582
03:05:49,120 --> 03:05:52,640
Speaker 1: back burner now. But I I just it just didn't

3583
03:05:52,680 --> 03:05:56,879
Speaker 1: seem to have the importance um to us at you know,

3584
03:05:56,920 --> 03:05:59,840
Speaker 1: at this point. Again, I I can't read into you know,

3585
03:06:00,040 --> 03:06:03,400
Speaker 1: Dave's mind, what he's thinking. Um. The only thing I

3586
03:06:03,400 --> 03:06:06,039
Speaker 1: can say is maybe, you know, maybe he's waiting for remors.

3587
03:06:06,600 --> 03:06:10,280
Speaker 1: And John and I agree on that wide receiver thing again,

3588
03:06:10,560 --> 03:06:12,640
Speaker 1: or it wouldn't have brought the question up. Actually, I

3589
03:06:13,200 --> 03:06:15,760
Speaker 1: think we've got to do something at wide receivers, you know.

3590
03:06:15,879 --> 03:06:18,080
Speaker 1: And and he's then the good thing in the seven catches,

3591
03:06:19,520 --> 03:06:21,680
Speaker 1: as Paul said, it's a deep class. Remember, I think

3592
03:06:21,720 --> 03:06:23,840
Speaker 1: a lot of those Oldell catches gonna go to Evan

3593
03:06:23,920 --> 03:06:25,840
Speaker 1: Ingram too. You know, he's a guy that got utilized

3594
03:06:25,840 --> 03:06:29,480
Speaker 1: a lot more once Oldel wasn't out there. So yeah, true, true, true, true.

3595
03:06:29,480 --> 03:06:31,920
Speaker 1: But I mean I don't think we can I don't

3596
03:06:31,959 --> 03:06:35,600
Speaker 1: think Tate it's going to catch seventy seven passes. You know,

3597
03:06:35,640 --> 03:06:37,560
Speaker 1: I keep talking, I keep talking to you guys about

3598
03:06:37,600 --> 03:06:40,400
Speaker 1: Ruben Randall numbers. Give me, give me sixty eight un

3599
03:06:40,440 --> 03:06:42,760
Speaker 1: two yards and eight touchdowns and I'll be happy with Tate.

3600
03:06:43,200 --> 03:06:46,800
Speaker 1: But I mean Golden for the most part. Just why

3601
03:06:47,200 --> 03:06:49,959
Speaker 1: that guy on our roster, Golden Tate, hasn't caught fewer

3602
03:06:49,959 --> 03:06:52,120
Speaker 1: than eighty passes in a year and almost any of

3603
03:06:52,120 --> 03:06:53,920
Speaker 1: his prime yeers of his career. There's no reason to

3604
03:06:53,959 --> 03:06:55,840
Speaker 1: think he can't do that. All right, Well, all right,

3605
03:06:55,920 --> 03:06:58,600
Speaker 1: let's let's see. I'll be you know, give me Ruben

3606
03:06:58,720 --> 03:07:01,200
Speaker 1: Randle's numbers and I'll be sighted. But we need somebody

3607
03:07:01,200 --> 03:07:03,320
Speaker 1: on the other side. Hey, thanks for taking my call.

3608
03:07:03,400 --> 03:07:05,840
Speaker 1: Let's go giants. Appreciate it. Thank you for the calling.

3609
03:07:07,160 --> 03:07:10,240
Speaker 1: Take it easy. All right, let's update some of the

3610
03:07:10,280 --> 03:07:12,600
Speaker 1: picks and lent. Thanks for the call. We appreciate it.

3611
03:07:13,160 --> 03:07:19,680
Speaker 1: Um um, we'll get that off there. Thank you, and um.

3612
03:07:19,879 --> 03:07:21,200
Speaker 1: Take a look. Here are some of the guys that

3613
03:07:21,280 --> 03:07:23,840
Speaker 1: just went off the board. Jermaine Protude I mentioned the

3614
03:07:23,879 --> 03:07:27,640
Speaker 1: linebacker NC State to the Bengals, David Montgomery running back

3615
03:07:27,680 --> 03:07:32,680
Speaker 1: Iowa State from the Bears. Buffalo Devin Singletary goes there

3616
03:07:32,800 --> 03:07:35,040
Speaker 1: running back at a Florida Atlantic, and one of my favorites,

3617
03:07:35,120 --> 03:07:38,800
Speaker 1: Ja Sternberger to the Packers. That is a nice fit

3618
03:07:38,840 --> 03:07:41,600
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers in that offense. There. I agree totally.

3619
03:07:41,840 --> 03:07:44,040
Speaker 1: It's already to get some skill players here now, Paul

3620
03:07:44,320 --> 03:07:47,000
Speaker 1: three in a row on the offensive side of the ball. Well,

3621
03:07:47,120 --> 03:07:49,480
Speaker 1: let's just say this. Let's forget about for a second.

3622
03:07:49,560 --> 03:07:54,080
Speaker 1: Let's table the wide receiver discussion and the offensive tackle discussion. John,

3623
03:07:54,480 --> 03:07:57,520
Speaker 1: We've said how many times tonight that the Giants still

3624
03:07:57,560 --> 03:08:00,800
Speaker 1: needs some pass rushing help and again, and I'm sorry,

3625
03:08:01,000 --> 03:08:05,119
Speaker 1: if window Vich is there, you know it's it's gonna

3626
03:08:05,160 --> 03:08:06,880
Speaker 1: be hard for me to pass him up because again,

3627
03:08:06,920 --> 03:08:09,400
Speaker 1: he's a blue collar guy. Let's go to Jeff in

3628
03:08:09,480 --> 03:08:11,600
Speaker 1: New York. Up next, Jeff, You're on Big Blue Kick

3629
03:08:11,640 --> 03:08:14,560
Speaker 1: Off Live on Giants dot Com Special Friday Night Draft edition.

3630
03:08:14,560 --> 03:08:18,880
Speaker 1: What's up, Jeff? Hey? How are you doing great? Hey?

3631
03:08:19,240 --> 03:08:22,040
Speaker 1: My main question is about Eli's future with the Giant.

3632
03:08:23,400 --> 03:08:26,480
Speaker 1: So my I love I want to start off by

3633
03:08:26,520 --> 03:08:29,000
Speaker 1: saying I love the pick, I love Daniel Jones. I

3634
03:08:29,000 --> 03:08:32,080
Speaker 1: think he could be the future for the Giants. My

3635
03:08:32,320 --> 03:08:35,959
Speaker 1: question is more short term with Eli. Now, are their

3636
03:08:35,959 --> 03:08:39,879
Speaker 1: biggest holes is offensive tackle and defense? Events, Um, they

3637
03:08:39,920 --> 03:08:43,080
Speaker 1: haven't made any moves there or mainly just a pass

3638
03:08:43,160 --> 03:08:47,760
Speaker 1: rushers um. With them not making a big move on

3639
03:08:47,800 --> 03:08:52,840
Speaker 1: that end, are they setting ELI up for us UH

3640
03:08:53,040 --> 03:08:57,000
Speaker 1: season next year where it's gonna be just like two

3641
03:08:57,040 --> 03:09:01,000
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen all over again? I don't think so. I

3642
03:09:01,000 --> 03:09:03,560
Speaker 1: mean I think that you know, this is a work

3643
03:09:03,600 --> 03:09:06,600
Speaker 1: in progress. We still don't know what's gonna happen tonight,

3644
03:09:06,640 --> 03:09:11,120
Speaker 1: tomorrow or still undrafted rookie free agents. There's there's still

3645
03:09:11,160 --> 03:09:14,080
Speaker 1: gonna be months over the summer where guys may pop

3646
03:09:14,120 --> 03:09:17,039
Speaker 1: free off of rosters it does happen, and then they'll

3647
03:09:17,080 --> 03:09:21,600
Speaker 1: be final cuts even in August. I mean no, I

3648
03:09:21,920 --> 03:09:23,640
Speaker 1: think I think the Giants are gonna be a better

3649
03:09:23,640 --> 03:09:25,640
Speaker 1: team this year than they were last year. I don't

3650
03:09:25,640 --> 03:09:27,920
Speaker 1: think honestly, and I know the fifty three is not

3651
03:09:28,000 --> 03:09:30,120
Speaker 1: set Bless you, John, thank you, But I think they

3652
03:09:30,160 --> 03:09:31,960
Speaker 1: will be a better team now. I understand the only

3653
03:09:31,959 --> 03:09:34,440
Speaker 1: on Tay the way though, because you're subtracting Beckham, you're

3654
03:09:34,440 --> 03:09:40,240
Speaker 1: subtracting Vernon, you're subtracting Couns, and you're adding Zeitler, Peppers

3655
03:09:41,480 --> 03:09:44,160
Speaker 1: and the guys you added in free agency plus the

3656
03:09:44,240 --> 03:09:46,879
Speaker 1: draft class. Right, so I could I could see the

3657
03:09:46,920 --> 03:09:49,160
Speaker 1: argument both ways. I think in order for this two

3658
03:09:49,200 --> 03:09:51,840
Speaker 1: years iteration of the team to be better, the young

3659
03:09:51,920 --> 03:09:54,240
Speaker 1: players on the roster have to make a jump, and

3660
03:09:54,280 --> 03:09:57,200
Speaker 1: that's how it happened. And the rookies must contribute. Correct,

3661
03:09:57,240 --> 03:10:00,480
Speaker 1: absolutely correct, I'm with you on that, okay, And at

3662
03:10:00,560 --> 03:10:03,400
Speaker 1: least right now, we think two of the first round

3663
03:10:03,440 --> 03:10:06,800
Speaker 1: draft picks will contribute. We think the better they better.

3664
03:10:06,879 --> 03:10:09,240
Speaker 1: They both first round picks straight out contributing. We got

3665
03:10:09,280 --> 03:10:11,879
Speaker 1: a big problem for you this third round pick, whoever

3666
03:10:11,920 --> 03:10:14,680
Speaker 1: it is, better contributed to. By the way, I'm very unhappy, Jeff.

3667
03:10:14,680 --> 03:10:18,000
Speaker 1: I'll let you finish. One of my favorite guys in

3668
03:10:18,040 --> 03:10:21,800
Speaker 1: this whole damn draft, Terry mcclau just went to the

3669
03:10:21,800 --> 03:10:25,320
Speaker 1: Redskins to play with his Ohio State teammate Dwayne Haskins.

3670
03:10:26,240 --> 03:10:28,160
Speaker 1: He's going to be a terror on special teams, by

3671
03:10:28,200 --> 03:10:30,480
Speaker 1: the way, for he's the best gutter in college football.

3672
03:10:30,560 --> 03:10:34,160
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Winovich to the Patriots. Why does that

3673
03:10:34,280 --> 03:10:37,600
Speaker 1: not surprised? Would he be more of a Patriot player?

3674
03:10:37,680 --> 03:10:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, he's afraible all over again. Unbelievable. Who

3675
03:10:42,240 --> 03:10:44,600
Speaker 1: is who is that other? It's not able in another

3676
03:10:44,680 --> 03:10:49,520
Speaker 1: outside pass rushier And there was another guy I can't

3677
03:10:49,560 --> 03:10:52,520
Speaker 1: place his name from unbelievable. Yeah, but it's not surprised anyway,

3678
03:10:52,560 --> 03:10:57,480
Speaker 1: Jeff for them. So would you say that they're still

3679
03:10:57,520 --> 03:11:02,680
Speaker 1: trying to win with Eli. Yeah, No, Look, they're they're trying.

3680
03:11:03,120 --> 03:11:05,880
Speaker 1: They're trying to rebuild the roster while winning as many

3681
03:11:05,920 --> 03:11:08,640
Speaker 1: games as they can. Are they do they think they're

3682
03:11:08,640 --> 03:11:11,520
Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, twelve and four and be contenders

3683
03:11:11,560 --> 03:11:13,760
Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl if you gave him truth see

3684
03:11:13,800 --> 03:11:17,080
Speaker 1: him you know, maybe not. But the coaching staff's gonna

3685
03:11:17,080 --> 03:11:19,480
Speaker 1: go into the year with every intention of winning every

3686
03:11:19,520 --> 03:11:22,119
Speaker 1: game they possibly can. So that's why I don't understand,

3687
03:11:22,200 --> 03:11:25,320
Speaker 1: like you guys like ask questions like are they going

3688
03:11:25,360 --> 03:11:27,560
Speaker 1: to try to win? What the hell do you think

3689
03:11:27,560 --> 03:11:31,119
Speaker 1: they're gonna try and do lose? They're not gonna try

3690
03:11:31,120 --> 03:11:33,560
Speaker 1: to lose, of course, they're trying to win. Just remember

3691
03:11:33,640 --> 03:11:36,959
Speaker 1: something in a team that that is under some type

3692
03:11:37,000 --> 03:11:41,760
Speaker 1: of reconstruction. Okay, if you lose, you take steps backwards,

3693
03:11:42,240 --> 03:11:45,920
Speaker 1: jobs get lost, and now suddenly you're out on the street.

3694
03:11:46,160 --> 03:11:49,240
Speaker 1: How does that help? Which happened to Patch Surmer in Cleveland,

3695
03:11:49,280 --> 03:11:52,199
Speaker 1: by the way, and he remembers that, and it happened

3696
03:11:52,200 --> 03:11:56,160
Speaker 1: to a coach here a year before, and that entire

3697
03:11:56,240 --> 03:11:59,480
Speaker 1: staff and a bunch of players. By the way, as

3698
03:11:59,480 --> 03:12:03,800
Speaker 1: this Giant's roster got almost totally gutted last year by

3699
03:12:03,840 --> 03:12:07,280
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman, how is it productive to lose? I don't

3700
03:12:07,360 --> 03:12:12,440
Speaker 1: I don't get that narrative. I understand that. But Michael

3701
03:12:12,440 --> 03:12:17,200
Speaker 1: Dieter Wisconsin gone to the Dolphins. Another potential lineman, not

3702
03:12:17,400 --> 03:12:20,080
Speaker 1: so much a tackle but a versa little lineman, just

3703
03:12:20,120 --> 03:12:22,920
Speaker 1: been picked up by the Dolphins. Good player. Go ahead,

3704
03:12:24,040 --> 03:12:27,240
Speaker 1: So I'll take one last question now I can just

3705
03:12:27,280 --> 03:12:32,280
Speaker 1: take it off the year um with Eli Manning. Do

3706
03:12:32,320 --> 03:12:38,480
Speaker 1: you think hello, all right, take it easy, Jeff, it

3707
03:12:38,480 --> 03:12:40,440
Speaker 1: sounds like we lost you lost him. We didn't do that,

3708
03:12:40,480 --> 03:12:42,960
Speaker 1: by the way, we did not cut them off to

3709
03:12:43,320 --> 03:12:46,720
Speaker 1: rusty in cheap said Bay, where I here only the

3710
03:12:46,720 --> 03:12:50,400
Speaker 1: toughest people come from. Is that your rusty? Hey there, guys,

3711
03:12:50,440 --> 03:12:53,160
Speaker 1: what are you doing that? That's right? Hey, we're real

3712
03:12:53,240 --> 03:12:56,400
Speaker 1: tough that That's what I heard. I heard you guys

3713
03:12:56,440 --> 03:12:58,119
Speaker 1: really tell it like it is out there. Good evening,

3714
03:12:59,680 --> 03:13:02,760
Speaker 1: So I might talk to you guys about a little

3715
03:13:02,800 --> 03:13:05,440
Speaker 1: nervous here those first time called but a long time listener,

3716
03:13:05,520 --> 03:13:11,960
Speaker 1: you too. Thank you. This number two pick. Hello, well Russie,

3717
03:13:11,959 --> 03:13:15,720
Speaker 1: we're listening. Okay, hey, this is number two pins Donald,

3718
03:13:15,800 --> 03:13:18,720
Speaker 1: I should say, dexter Lawrence. Where is he going to

3719
03:13:18,840 --> 03:13:21,440
Speaker 1: fit in? This guy's This guy is an animal? Where

3720
03:13:21,520 --> 03:13:26,640
Speaker 1: is he fitting into this game? Where they'll try to

3721
03:13:26,680 --> 03:13:30,200
Speaker 1: squeeze him in? Just like at the butcher shop, you

3722
03:13:30,240 --> 03:13:32,160
Speaker 1: try to squeeze them meet in the refrigerator. That's what

3723
03:13:32,160 --> 03:13:35,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna do with next to Lawrence. He's got that right,

3724
03:13:35,040 --> 03:13:37,840
Speaker 1: I've seen that before. No, no, you guys are doing

3725
03:13:37,879 --> 03:13:40,000
Speaker 1: a bang up job. Well listen, I don't want to

3726
03:13:40,000 --> 03:13:41,640
Speaker 1: take up too much of your time. I know we

3727
03:13:41,720 --> 03:13:44,200
Speaker 1: got a lot of time though here, but uh too

3728
03:13:44,280 --> 03:13:48,039
Speaker 1: much time? Question? I got this seventh round pick. I

3729
03:13:48,080 --> 03:13:50,240
Speaker 1: know I'm getting ahead of myself here, but no, no, no, no,

3730
03:13:50,240 --> 03:13:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm getting ahead of myself a little bit. But this

3731
03:13:52,879 --> 03:13:59,840
Speaker 1: Jacob Jacob de Gala from Central Connecticut state quarterback. I

3732
03:14:00,000 --> 03:14:02,640
Speaker 1: know we got a guy. I know we got our guys,

3733
03:14:02,800 --> 03:14:05,760
Speaker 1: but what do we got here? Are we gotta go

3734
03:14:05,800 --> 03:14:08,080
Speaker 1: with this guy? I've seen him play? Are we going

3735
03:14:08,120 --> 03:14:09,800
Speaker 1: with this guy in the seventh round? I would be

3736
03:14:09,920 --> 03:14:12,560
Speaker 1: very surprised that they draft another quarterback Rusty I gotta

3737
03:14:12,600 --> 03:14:17,560
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Jacob Dolagala ad a centual. That guy.

3738
03:14:17,680 --> 03:14:23,240
Speaker 1: He's like six ft five thirty supting pounds. He's got

3739
03:14:23,400 --> 03:14:27,440
Speaker 1: he's all right. He's he's got a gun of an arm.

3740
03:14:27,520 --> 03:14:29,920
Speaker 1: He can wing it long. He's got some mobility, he's

3741
03:14:29,959 --> 03:14:32,760
Speaker 1: got some strength. He can run the option inside the

3742
03:14:32,760 --> 03:14:36,800
Speaker 1: red zone. Very interesting FCS prospect. He will be in

3743
03:14:36,840 --> 03:14:40,320
Speaker 1: somebody's rookie camp for sure. He has an NFL visit,

3744
03:14:40,560 --> 03:14:45,160
Speaker 1: a private visit with the Cincinnati Bengals about two weeks ago.

3745
03:14:45,280 --> 03:14:51,080
Speaker 1: Now you're doing your homework. Hey By's conference, baby all

3746
03:14:51,080 --> 03:14:54,600
Speaker 1: the way. That's it. That's it, guy, You're doing a

3747
03:14:54,680 --> 03:14:57,680
Speaker 1: bang up job. I love you out there. You're doing

3748
03:14:57,720 --> 03:15:00,640
Speaker 1: a great job. I'm gonna listen the whole night. Thank

3749
03:15:00,680 --> 03:15:03,720
Speaker 1: you so much, Rusty, Thank you, Rusty. Have a good night.

3750
03:15:04,040 --> 03:15:06,920
Speaker 1: Say something funny, Paul to a one three died four

3751
03:15:07,000 --> 03:15:09,000
Speaker 1: or five one three. Always get to hear from people

3752
03:15:09,000 --> 03:15:11,280
Speaker 1: from Keep, said Bay. Some of our best friends from Keep,

3753
03:15:11,280 --> 03:15:14,320
Speaker 1: said Bay. I didn't know that. Have you been the

3754
03:15:14,360 --> 03:15:17,320
Speaker 1: rolling roaster? Cheap, said Bay. Look that's on the other

3755
03:15:17,320 --> 03:15:20,119
Speaker 1: side of the Husban River. That's true. Pope only goes

3756
03:15:20,160 --> 03:15:26,320
Speaker 1: there for a food paid events. I don't even know why. Seriously,

3757
03:15:26,360 --> 03:15:28,440
Speaker 1: does someone have to pay you to cross the middle?

3758
03:15:28,680 --> 03:15:31,280
Speaker 1: Let's go. I think they do to get you them

3759
03:15:31,280 --> 03:15:33,320
Speaker 1: in hand. You gotta get paid or you're getting free food.

3760
03:15:34,600 --> 03:15:36,280
Speaker 1: You're not making it. Let's go. All right, let's go

3761
03:15:36,400 --> 03:15:39,720
Speaker 1: to Jay C and do Jersey. He's online one, Jase,

3762
03:15:39,920 --> 03:15:45,760
Speaker 1: what's going on? Oh boy, what's going on? Thank you buddy.

3763
03:15:46,760 --> 03:15:48,080
Speaker 1: This one was talking a little bit about the first

3764
03:15:48,120 --> 03:15:50,320
Speaker 1: round and why I think so many fans are crazy

3765
03:15:51,400 --> 03:15:55,320
Speaker 1: what happened? Go ahead, go ahead? Um well, I think

3766
03:15:55,360 --> 03:15:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, I think people get lost

3767
03:15:57,080 --> 03:15:59,480
Speaker 1: on the hype of that we missed out on Allen

3768
03:16:00,040 --> 03:16:02,320
Speaker 1: and maybe in the next year's draft class being so

3769
03:16:02,400 --> 03:16:06,959
Speaker 1: loaded with so many qbs. But um, I personally like Jones,

3770
03:16:07,000 --> 03:16:09,840
Speaker 1: actually like Jones more than Haskins and even Lock. I

3771
03:16:09,840 --> 03:16:13,680
Speaker 1: think he has a lot more to give them, those guys. Okay,

3772
03:16:13,720 --> 03:16:15,800
Speaker 1: I even though one of those little like mock mock

3773
03:16:15,840 --> 03:16:18,240
Speaker 1: simulator things, and I actually had him at seventeen and

3774
03:16:18,280 --> 03:16:20,320
Speaker 1: I had Alan at six. A bit of backwards, I guess,

3775
03:16:20,400 --> 03:16:23,200
Speaker 1: but we didn't get Alan. Um. I love Baker. I

3776
03:16:23,280 --> 03:16:25,480
Speaker 1: love Lawrence too. I think Lawrence it would be an animal.

3777
03:16:25,520 --> 03:16:28,840
Speaker 1: It's like they tap it to his potential um And

3778
03:16:29,080 --> 03:16:31,040
Speaker 1: I think at this point, the third in the third round,

3779
03:16:31,040 --> 03:16:33,080
Speaker 1: I think we're not going to draft off to get anybody.

3780
03:16:33,080 --> 03:16:35,080
Speaker 1: I think how many how many positions are we like,

3781
03:16:35,120 --> 03:16:37,760
Speaker 1: maybe ten more to go? More than that. Unfortunately we

3782
03:16:37,840 --> 03:16:43,240
Speaker 1: got another sixteen picks together. Fifteen picks to go. Yeah,

3783
03:16:43,280 --> 03:16:45,720
Speaker 1: that's it. They may make a move, we'll see. I

3784
03:16:45,720 --> 03:16:48,879
Speaker 1: guess it's close. I figure what the draft capital they

3785
03:16:48,920 --> 03:16:50,959
Speaker 1: still have left? If they're not going to dip into

3786
03:16:51,000 --> 03:16:55,960
Speaker 1: the two thousand, twenty luggage, the best they could probably

3787
03:16:56,040 --> 03:16:59,600
Speaker 1: do was squirm up about ten picks. So if they're

3788
03:16:59,640 --> 03:17:01,480
Speaker 1: going to make a move, it's going to have to

3789
03:17:01,560 --> 03:17:03,879
Speaker 1: come soon, and it's going to have to come for

3790
03:17:04,000 --> 03:17:07,440
Speaker 1: somebody they really want. Now. Jalen Ferguson, who let the

3791
03:17:07,520 --> 03:17:10,480
Speaker 1: n C double a in sacks this past season, I

3792
03:17:10,520 --> 03:17:13,720
Speaker 1: mean again lower level comp And I get some of

3793
03:17:13,720 --> 03:17:15,560
Speaker 1: the knocks about him being a little bit stiff and

3794
03:17:15,560 --> 03:17:18,440
Speaker 1: so forth and so on. There was high production there

3795
03:17:18,480 --> 03:17:21,320
Speaker 1: and I don't think anybody thought that he would necessarily

3796
03:17:21,360 --> 03:17:25,720
Speaker 1: go this low if if they really really felt like, hey,

3797
03:17:25,800 --> 03:17:28,680
Speaker 1: you know what, the guy's got sacked numbers, let's go

3798
03:17:28,800 --> 03:17:32,360
Speaker 1: get them. Maybe they come up ten picks right, No, yeah,

3799
03:17:32,600 --> 03:17:34,240
Speaker 1: I like for her. Actually it's Polites still on the

3800
03:17:34,280 --> 03:17:36,359
Speaker 1: boarder he got he's gone. He went to the Jets,

3801
03:17:37,160 --> 03:17:41,200
Speaker 1: the Jets, good old Jets, William Donald and politely that kiddy.

3802
03:17:43,040 --> 03:17:45,000
Speaker 1: Do you have anything else for me? What do you

3803
03:17:45,000 --> 03:17:46,480
Speaker 1: think about the right tackle? What do you think even

3804
03:17:46,520 --> 03:17:48,280
Speaker 1: do there? Besides maybe remers, I mean, I don't know.

3805
03:17:48,280 --> 03:17:49,960
Speaker 1: Maybe the third maybe the third round pick would be

3806
03:17:50,000 --> 03:17:54,039
Speaker 1: a tackle. I mean, honestly, I know Paul wants them desperately.

3807
03:17:54,360 --> 03:17:57,000
Speaker 1: I don't think there's third vant value on the tackles

3808
03:17:57,000 --> 03:17:58,920
Speaker 1: that are left on the board. That's just my opinion.

3809
03:17:59,480 --> 03:18:02,160
Speaker 1: I think most lead someone on edge guy, maybe even

3810
03:18:02,560 --> 03:18:05,360
Speaker 1: another maybe another front seven guy. But actually, how about

3811
03:18:05,360 --> 03:18:08,000
Speaker 1: the linemaker from from an Obama, the guy who's injured,

3812
03:18:08,280 --> 03:18:12,120
Speaker 1: Christian I like Christian Miller. Miller Miller, yeah, and Mack

3813
03:18:12,160 --> 03:18:13,760
Speaker 1: Wilson I think is an option here too. I think

3814
03:18:13,760 --> 03:18:16,360
Speaker 1: both linebackers out of Alabama are options here coming up.

3815
03:18:16,800 --> 03:18:20,440
Speaker 1: You're good players on them. If you're strictly looking at value,

3816
03:18:20,920 --> 03:18:23,600
Speaker 1: there's certainly good players. Miller obviously would fit more of

3817
03:18:23,600 --> 03:18:25,720
Speaker 1: a need. I think you. I think the edge players

3818
03:18:25,720 --> 03:18:28,080
Speaker 1: in the border right now are better than the tackles. Yeah,

3819
03:18:29,160 --> 03:18:32,560
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I would agree with that, Thank you,

3820
03:18:32,640 --> 03:18:35,320
Speaker 1: j C. And don't you think it would be easier

3821
03:18:35,320 --> 03:18:40,400
Speaker 1: for them to find in free agency a right tackle

3822
03:18:40,480 --> 03:18:42,760
Speaker 1: than edge rusher at this point, unless you're gonna go

3823
03:18:42,959 --> 03:18:45,800
Speaker 1: after ze Yanza, which I don't think it's very realistic. Yeah,

3824
03:18:45,840 --> 03:18:48,880
Speaker 1: I I would agree with you, John Um. I don't know.

3825
03:18:49,480 --> 03:18:52,960
Speaker 1: You know, Dave Gettleman has always had, over the course

3826
03:18:52,959 --> 03:18:55,760
Speaker 1: of his career a real good eye for finding diamonds

3827
03:18:55,760 --> 03:18:59,960
Speaker 1: of a rough along the trenches, and so maybe that's

3828
03:19:00,120 --> 03:19:03,000
Speaker 1: part of his thinking here too, that he's gonna find

3829
03:19:03,080 --> 03:19:06,320
Speaker 1: more of a diamond than the rough all all the line,

3830
03:19:06,560 --> 03:19:09,040
Speaker 1: and so maybe that's kind of a hint or an

3831
03:19:09,040 --> 03:19:12,480
Speaker 1: indication as to him leaning towards the trenches in this

3832
03:19:12,640 --> 03:19:16,039
Speaker 1: third round. Let's update where we are in terms of

3833
03:19:16,080 --> 03:19:18,920
Speaker 1: the draft. We mentioned Chase Vinovitch to the Patriots. The

3834
03:19:19,040 --> 03:19:21,640
Speaker 1: Rams take one of my favorite cornerbacks in the draft.

3835
03:19:21,680 --> 03:19:23,360
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the I think besides the

3836
03:19:23,440 --> 03:19:26,320
Speaker 1: size he's only five ten, I think he's maybe the

3837
03:19:26,440 --> 03:19:29,240
Speaker 1: might be the best pure cover guy in the draft

3838
03:19:29,240 --> 03:19:32,119
Speaker 1: this year. That's David Long out of Michigan at seventy nine,

3839
03:19:32,360 --> 03:19:35,160
Speaker 1: and then maybe the best name in the draft Sean

3840
03:19:35,280 --> 03:19:38,840
Speaker 1: Taki Taki at a b y you the linebacker right

3841
03:19:39,080 --> 03:19:42,119
Speaker 1: goes eighty to Cleveland. Who wants some Taki Taki? Let's

3842
03:19:42,120 --> 03:19:44,800
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, that's a great name, you know. Julian

3843
03:19:44,879 --> 03:19:47,760
Speaker 1: Love out of Notre Dame was still on the board.

3844
03:19:48,080 --> 03:19:49,920
Speaker 1: I think he's a really good corner by the way

3845
03:19:49,959 --> 03:19:53,840
Speaker 1: he can play the slot, toy versatile. I like him

3846
03:19:53,920 --> 03:19:56,080
Speaker 1: John Now, he might be the guy that I have

3847
03:19:56,160 --> 03:19:57,840
Speaker 1: left on the board with the highest great To be honest,

3848
03:19:57,879 --> 03:20:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm almost surprised that when we asked Tony Lean about

3849
03:20:00,600 --> 03:20:04,400
Speaker 1: potential corners, if the Giants decided they needed to stack

3850
03:20:04,480 --> 03:20:09,000
Speaker 1: up on another corner, Well, I'll tell you something. I

3851
03:20:09,120 --> 03:20:11,160
Speaker 1: probably would pass on him to see if I could

3852
03:20:11,160 --> 03:20:13,520
Speaker 1: get him at the top of the fourth. That's dangerous.

3853
03:20:13,640 --> 03:20:16,080
Speaker 1: It might be years a good player, and I like

3854
03:20:16,200 --> 03:20:18,920
Speaker 1: him a lot now. His his speed, his time was

3855
03:20:18,959 --> 03:20:21,640
Speaker 1: a little slow, and he doesn't offer an awful lot

3856
03:20:21,680 --> 03:20:24,080
Speaker 1: of cushion when he plays. But I things like I

3857
03:20:24,120 --> 03:20:27,240
Speaker 1: had here. I liked his length, I like this jam mobility,

3858
03:20:27,320 --> 03:20:31,720
Speaker 1: his turn, his ball skills, and he can do both ways.

3859
03:20:31,840 --> 03:20:35,720
Speaker 1: I agree I like them. So what what do you

3860
03:20:35,720 --> 03:20:37,960
Speaker 1: think of the we got a trade here? What do

3861
03:20:38,200 --> 03:20:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going down? What do you think

3862
03:20:39,920 --> 03:20:43,520
Speaker 1: of the Penn State corner? A maori are? I don't

3863
03:20:43,680 --> 03:20:45,320
Speaker 1: think I had him listening to look at him. He

3864
03:20:45,360 --> 03:20:46,840
Speaker 1: was at the Senior Bowl. Let me see, let me

3865
03:20:46,840 --> 03:20:48,440
Speaker 1: see he would be in this next group of corners

3866
03:20:48,440 --> 03:20:53,320
Speaker 1: from me. Oh. Actually I had questions about his strength.

3867
03:20:53,720 --> 03:20:56,600
Speaker 1: He doesn't like the tackle, his burst to the ball.

3868
03:20:57,200 --> 03:20:59,640
Speaker 1: Uh technique I was not very much a fan of.

3869
03:20:59,760 --> 03:21:03,039
Speaker 1: But I did like his frame, press, coverage, ball skills,

3870
03:21:03,280 --> 03:21:05,400
Speaker 1: and I did a good speed That's what I wrote

3871
03:21:05,440 --> 03:21:07,959
Speaker 1: down for him. So I and if you want a

3872
03:21:08,040 --> 03:21:10,840
Speaker 1: raw corner, that is all the tools, but it just

3873
03:21:10,879 --> 03:21:13,080
Speaker 1: converted two years ago. Has no idea what he's doing.

3874
03:21:13,480 --> 03:21:15,720
Speaker 1: But he ran up four four and his six three

3875
03:21:16,240 --> 03:21:18,360
Speaker 1: he's around two. I forgot about him. No Isaiah Johnson,

3876
03:21:18,400 --> 03:21:21,480
Speaker 1: I was talking about he's the rouy justin Lincoln. Just play.

3877
03:21:21,959 --> 03:21:24,480
Speaker 1: He's he's a good player. You know that's a possibility

3878
03:21:24,480 --> 03:21:26,480
Speaker 1: to former wide receiver, Well, what do you think they've

3879
03:21:26,480 --> 03:21:30,600
Speaker 1: get him? And said about secondary Indeed, you can get guys.

3880
03:21:31,080 --> 03:21:36,240
Speaker 1: You're not relying so to four five one three, Robert

3881
03:21:36,280 --> 03:21:41,760
Speaker 1: and Tampa is up next day. Robert, Good, Robert, what's up?

3882
03:21:43,200 --> 03:21:46,959
Speaker 1: Quick question? Um, what do your guys think about this guy,

3883
03:21:47,320 --> 03:21:55,000
Speaker 1: Keen Butler. He's about Yeah. I think I think he

3884
03:21:55,160 --> 03:21:58,000
Speaker 1: shaped very much like Plexes, but I don't think he's

3885
03:21:57,840 --> 03:22:00,720
Speaker 1: it's quite as talented of a player. He is good

3886
03:22:01,120 --> 03:22:04,279
Speaker 1: straight ahead speed. I worry about his change of direction ability.

3887
03:22:04,280 --> 03:22:06,920
Speaker 1: He had a lot of drops at Iowa State, but

3888
03:22:07,000 --> 03:22:09,720
Speaker 1: in terms of getting over the top making contested catches

3889
03:22:10,040 --> 03:22:12,840
Speaker 1: his frame. He's the type of big wide receiver that

3890
03:22:12,879 --> 03:22:14,560
Speaker 1: I think Eli Manny would like to throw the ball too.

3891
03:22:14,680 --> 03:22:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't think they had him run the whole round

3892
03:22:16,480 --> 03:22:19,040
Speaker 1: tree from the clips I saw, it was limited routes

3893
03:22:19,120 --> 03:22:20,920
Speaker 1: correct well that they know his size. There was a

3894
03:22:20,959 --> 03:22:24,040
Speaker 1: lot of back shoulders, stops and and goes and plants

3895
03:22:24,280 --> 03:22:25,960
Speaker 1: like him very much that was applied. He runs a

3896
03:22:26,000 --> 03:22:28,840
Speaker 1: similar rot tree that d K mccalf friend. Yeah, very similar,

3897
03:22:29,879 --> 03:22:36,960
Speaker 1: but a little better athlete at least six six round.

3898
03:22:37,560 --> 03:22:39,160
Speaker 1: No no no no, no no no no no no no.

3899
03:22:39,360 --> 03:22:41,000
Speaker 1: He might He might not even make it to the

3900
03:22:41,040 --> 03:22:43,160
Speaker 1: end of the third round. He might not. He might not.

3901
03:22:44,000 --> 03:22:47,199
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I think most people, most people would

3902
03:22:47,200 --> 03:22:48,959
Speaker 1: think he'll be done by the end of the night. Yeah,

3903
03:22:49,000 --> 03:22:51,560
Speaker 1: he's one of the best wide receivers left on Yes,

3904
03:22:51,640 --> 03:22:57,400
Speaker 1: there's no question. Hey appreciate the call man. Thank you

3905
03:22:57,440 --> 03:22:59,560
Speaker 1: for giving us a ringing and listening to the program. Guys.

3906
03:22:59,560 --> 03:23:01,480
Speaker 1: By the way, I gotta give the calls callers credit.

3907
03:23:01,560 --> 03:23:03,560
Speaker 1: We've had a full bank all night. Baby, we could

3908
03:23:03,600 --> 03:23:05,160
Speaker 1: go live. By the way is presented by cores Light

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03:23:05,160 --> 03:23:07,600
Speaker 1: download the Coors Light Awards apt to an amazing giants prizes,

3910
03:23:07,600 --> 03:23:11,040
Speaker 1: fans do it and listeners and callers Bravo. We have

3911
03:23:11,120 --> 03:23:13,880
Speaker 1: had four lines lit up pretty much the whole night

3912
03:23:13,920 --> 03:23:17,199
Speaker 1: and we haven't had to fill time or do anything

3913
03:23:17,280 --> 03:23:20,240
Speaker 1: like that at all tonight. It's just been wonderful. You

3914
03:23:20,240 --> 03:23:22,120
Speaker 1: guys have done a great, great job. We are almost

3915
03:23:22,120 --> 03:23:23,720
Speaker 1: three and a half hours in and I have another

3916
03:23:23,760 --> 03:23:25,360
Speaker 1: guest that I have ready to go. But you know what,

3917
03:23:26,000 --> 03:23:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go through calls. I think we're getting

3918
03:23:28,480 --> 03:23:30,200
Speaker 1: close enough here. We could take calls and just get

3919
03:23:30,200 --> 03:23:32,199
Speaker 1: to the pick. Right. Are you going to disappoint our guest?

3920
03:23:33,360 --> 03:23:35,880
Speaker 1: I told I told Rick that we might need a

3921
03:23:35,959 --> 03:23:37,760
Speaker 1: movie white not so I'm gonna tell him that we're

3922
03:23:37,760 --> 03:23:42,840
Speaker 1: good and maybe we'll put Rick on tomorrow, and he's

3923
03:23:42,879 --> 03:23:46,039
Speaker 1: back tomorrow, and now Giants dot Com and Rick Sartella

3924
03:23:46,120 --> 03:23:48,280
Speaker 1: is our Day three experts, so maybe tomorrow might be

3925
03:23:48,280 --> 03:23:51,240
Speaker 1: best for him in the NFL Draft Bible exactly, which

3926
03:23:51,240 --> 03:23:52,960
Speaker 1: if you go to NFL Draft Bible on Twitter, you

3927
03:23:52,959 --> 03:23:57,400
Speaker 1: can download a free copy. Let's go to Jeff lost

3928
03:23:57,480 --> 03:24:00,720
Speaker 1: before we lost Jeff before he had one more quick question, Jeff.

3929
03:24:00,720 --> 03:24:02,320
Speaker 1: You don't get too the full bank of questions. You

3930
03:24:02,320 --> 03:24:07,199
Speaker 1: get one question and you're out. Quick relation. Jeff, appreciate again,

3931
03:24:07,560 --> 03:24:11,039
Speaker 1: go ahead, one question, now, let's do it. So, yeah,

3932
03:24:11,120 --> 03:24:13,160
Speaker 1: my question, I'll take it right off the year, and

3933
03:24:13,400 --> 03:24:17,000
Speaker 1: it's do you think Eli Manning is on board with

3934
03:24:17,040 --> 03:24:21,360
Speaker 1: that pick at six? Yes? And so it's so, how

3935
03:24:21,400 --> 03:24:25,560
Speaker 1: do we explain his canceling with Mike Frances's interviews for

3936
03:24:25,600 --> 03:24:29,120
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. That thank you, Jeff, I

3937
03:24:29,120 --> 03:24:31,400
Speaker 1: appreciate the call. And I can tell you that A

3938
03:24:31,640 --> 03:24:34,280
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with B. I can't get into

3939
03:24:34,280 --> 03:24:36,680
Speaker 1: more details of that because it's a business affair, but

3940
03:24:36,800 --> 03:24:38,360
Speaker 1: I can tell you that A had nothing to do

3941
03:24:38,400 --> 03:24:43,920
Speaker 1: with the separate issues entirely, entirely, and they just are

3942
03:24:44,720 --> 03:24:47,000
Speaker 1: and I won't say anything worse, and that's the truth.

3943
03:24:48,600 --> 03:24:51,879
Speaker 1: Four five one three. Let's go to Jason in Virginia.

3944
03:24:51,920 --> 03:24:59,720
Speaker 1: He's up next. Hey, Jason, I'm doing I'm okay, I'm okay, hey,

3945
03:24:59,720 --> 03:25:01,800
Speaker 1: but tennesseee to show you guys that don't agree job.

3946
03:25:01,920 --> 03:25:04,720
Speaker 1: Thank you. We're hanging in there, all right. So I'm

3947
03:25:04,760 --> 03:25:07,959
Speaker 1: gonna go. Let's fail with this one. Um, And I

3948
03:25:07,959 --> 03:25:11,920
Speaker 1: would say this, would you say it's safe to say

3949
03:25:11,920 --> 03:25:16,360
Speaker 1: that the Giants have been making personnel acquisitions based on

3950
03:25:16,520 --> 03:25:21,080
Speaker 1: players character in order to support a certain cultural, certain

3951
03:25:21,120 --> 03:25:25,360
Speaker 1: culture they're trying to instill, as opposed to making acquisitions

3952
03:25:25,440 --> 03:25:30,320
Speaker 1: or for talent alone. Yes so, and if so, could

3953
03:25:30,320 --> 03:25:33,879
Speaker 1: they be doing so to a flaw? I think it's

3954
03:25:33,879 --> 03:25:36,080
Speaker 1: a good question, because you could put a bunch of

3955
03:25:36,200 --> 03:25:38,400
Speaker 1: choir boys in the locker room. If they can't play football,

3956
03:25:38,400 --> 03:25:40,560
Speaker 1: it's not gonna do any good, right. The guys have

3957
03:25:40,600 --> 03:25:42,879
Speaker 1: to be able to play. And that's absolutely correct. But

3958
03:25:42,959 --> 03:25:47,440
Speaker 1: I do not believe that they're picking players regardless of

3959
03:25:47,520 --> 03:25:50,200
Speaker 1: talent as long as they're good guys. They're looking for

3960
03:25:50,320 --> 03:25:53,879
Speaker 1: talented players that are also good guys. And just the point,

3961
03:25:53,879 --> 03:25:55,520
Speaker 1: and I gotta tweet, I'm not sure if it was

3962
03:25:55,560 --> 03:25:58,600
Speaker 1: from you earlier today asking this exact same question, and

3963
03:25:58,640 --> 03:26:02,920
Speaker 1: my response was, guy's golden Tate's got personality, Jabrul Peppers

3964
03:26:02,920 --> 03:26:07,160
Speaker 1: has got personality. DeAndre Baker, You're gonna find out dudes

3965
03:26:07,200 --> 03:26:10,360
Speaker 1: got personality? He does, so he does. They're gonna have

3966
03:26:10,400 --> 03:26:13,400
Speaker 1: plenty of guys on this team with personality, don't you worry.

3967
03:26:13,440 --> 03:26:15,800
Speaker 1: Baker is a feisty guy now, and I had to

3968
03:26:15,840 --> 03:26:18,279
Speaker 1: Scout teld me this morning that he thought the Giants

3969
03:26:18,320 --> 03:26:21,680
Speaker 1: made a great pick because you need to have sometimes

3970
03:26:21,720 --> 03:26:24,080
Speaker 1: that that match in the locker room. That you can

3971
03:26:24,120 --> 03:26:26,320
Speaker 1: have a bunch of guys who are gonna be really

3972
03:26:26,400 --> 03:26:29,560
Speaker 1: nice and copastic with each other and everybody gets along

3973
03:26:29,560 --> 03:26:32,560
Speaker 1: and it's all smooth, but sometimes you need that little

3974
03:26:32,600 --> 03:26:35,199
Speaker 1: match to give a spark to the firecracker. I guess

3975
03:26:35,320 --> 03:26:37,040
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys. Mike Baker is one of

3976
03:26:37,080 --> 03:26:39,520
Speaker 1: those guys. My question for you would be what players

3977
03:26:39,560 --> 03:26:42,360
Speaker 1: do you think they've either not including players that were

3978
03:26:42,360 --> 03:26:44,440
Speaker 1: on the roster, but free agents or guys they could

3979
03:26:44,440 --> 03:26:46,800
Speaker 1: have drafted that they've passed up on because you think

3980
03:26:46,840 --> 03:26:53,119
Speaker 1: they might have too strong a personality. Um, I personally

3981
03:26:53,160 --> 03:27:01,520
Speaker 1: wontedful you wanted who you wanted who we didn't what

3982
03:27:01,680 --> 03:27:04,560
Speaker 1: you say? I wanted folds. I wanted us to do

3983
03:27:04,640 --> 03:27:08,280
Speaker 1: everything to get folds. Oh Nick nick Foles the quarterback.

3984
03:27:08,320 --> 03:27:10,400
Speaker 1: I don't think Nick Foles as a personality problem. He's

3985
03:27:10,440 --> 03:27:13,560
Speaker 1: he's he's kind of acquired by himself. Is know this,

3986
03:27:13,560 --> 03:27:16,360
Speaker 1: This is not really me saying it's a personality problem,

3987
03:27:16,400 --> 03:27:20,400
Speaker 1: but just me, I wanted somebody and kay, okay, Well,

3988
03:27:20,440 --> 03:27:23,080
Speaker 1: I think John's question was who the day that I

3989
03:27:23,160 --> 03:27:26,840
Speaker 1: was making was. I feel like that And and don't

3990
03:27:26,879 --> 03:27:29,000
Speaker 1: get me wrong, I feel like it's it's for good,

3991
03:27:29,280 --> 03:27:31,840
Speaker 1: somewhat a good cause. But I feel like we're making

3992
03:27:31,879 --> 03:27:35,840
Speaker 1: a lot of these acquisitions based off of a person's character,

3993
03:27:36,080 --> 03:27:38,400
Speaker 1: such as I think I think the giants are looking

3994
03:27:38,440 --> 03:27:41,840
Speaker 1: at people like we want, you know, nice guys, good

3995
03:27:41,920 --> 03:27:44,119
Speaker 1: upstanding guys. We don't want any more headaches. I think

3996
03:27:44,680 --> 03:27:47,760
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham said a bad tone for a certain type

3997
03:27:47,800 --> 03:27:52,720
Speaker 1: of personality. Um And I think it's unfortunate because what

3998
03:27:52,879 --> 03:27:57,520
Speaker 1: it does is it kind of courses management to sort

3999
03:27:57,520 --> 03:28:00,440
Speaker 1: of look the other way in terms of making um

4000
03:28:01,200 --> 03:28:04,160
Speaker 1: uh pick based off of pure talent. And I think

4001
03:28:04,400 --> 03:28:06,959
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I think certain individuals was passed

4002
03:28:07,040 --> 03:28:09,040
Speaker 1: up because of that. No, no, no, but like who

4003
03:28:09,080 --> 03:28:14,040
Speaker 1: that was my question? Give me some examples, uh, in

4004
03:28:14,160 --> 03:28:17,160
Speaker 1: terms of who we acquired already. No, no, who we

4005
03:28:17,280 --> 03:28:24,360
Speaker 1: passed up because they were bad personalities? Ums, he doesn't

4006
03:28:24,400 --> 03:28:26,879
Speaker 1: have a bad personality. I think Dweyenne Haskins has a

4007
03:28:27,000 --> 03:28:30,480
Speaker 1: very strong personality. He's very confident in himself. I don't

4008
03:28:30,520 --> 03:28:33,480
Speaker 1: think he would be willing to sit the bench for

4009
03:28:33,520 --> 03:28:36,880
Speaker 1: a while. Dwayne Haskins was passed up because there were

4010
03:28:36,879 --> 03:28:38,920
Speaker 1: a lot of boxes. He didn't chat and by the way,

4011
03:28:38,920 --> 03:28:40,920
Speaker 1: and frankly, and I'm not even lying to you, and

4012
03:28:40,920 --> 03:28:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, Paul's not a Haskins guy. And I asked,

4013
03:28:43,720 --> 03:28:47,120
Speaker 1: and I thought his presentation at the combine was wonderful.

4014
03:28:47,560 --> 03:28:49,680
Speaker 1: I asked Paul about Dwayne Haskins of the combine doing.

4015
03:28:49,680 --> 03:28:51,320
Speaker 1: What his answer was to me, John, I think he

4016
03:28:51,360 --> 03:28:54,480
Speaker 1: was boring that that was That was literally his answer

4017
03:28:54,520 --> 03:28:56,880
Speaker 1: to me. I'm not even joking around. That's what Paul

4018
03:28:56,920 --> 03:28:59,440
Speaker 1: said to me, right, he was. He was a no

4019
03:28:59,560 --> 03:29:01,680
Speaker 1: go for me and that look, but he was a

4020
03:29:01,720 --> 03:29:04,440
Speaker 1: no goal before the combine. The combine just reinforced that

4021
03:29:04,520 --> 03:29:07,760
Speaker 1: for me. By the way, Nate Davis from Charlotte. We

4022
03:29:07,800 --> 03:29:11,320
Speaker 1: had heard about him earlier during one of the call. Yeah, yeah,

4023
03:29:11,360 --> 03:29:13,600
Speaker 1: he is. He has now gone off the board, So

4024
03:29:13,640 --> 03:29:16,400
Speaker 1: that's another potential offensive lineman. If you were thinking about

4025
03:29:16,640 --> 03:29:18,560
Speaker 1: for the Giants coming up here in the next thank

4026
03:29:18,560 --> 03:29:20,880
Speaker 1: you Jason picture so but thank you so much. Yeah,

4027
03:29:20,959 --> 03:29:24,800
Speaker 1: for sure. And you know, I have gotten that question.

4028
03:29:24,800 --> 03:29:26,280
Speaker 1: So I'm happy i haven't gotten on the show yet,

4029
03:29:26,280 --> 03:29:28,080
Speaker 1: but I've gotten that question on Twitter. I'm not sure

4030
03:29:28,080 --> 03:29:31,240
Speaker 1: if you have from fans that think that they're prioritizing,

4031
03:29:31,680 --> 03:29:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, bringing good guys. But look, do I think

4032
03:29:34,080 --> 03:29:39,200
Speaker 1: that it's part of Dave Gettleman's modus OPERANDAI here to

4033
03:29:39,400 --> 03:29:43,680
Speaker 1: limit distractions and nonsense that's gonna get in the way. Yeah,

4034
03:29:43,760 --> 03:29:46,840
Speaker 1: he says that's one of his primary jobs as a GM.

4035
03:29:47,160 --> 03:29:50,240
Speaker 1: Let the coach just coaching the players play. Get distractions

4036
03:29:50,240 --> 03:29:53,120
Speaker 1: out of there. And I will say this, I understand

4037
03:29:53,160 --> 03:29:56,800
Speaker 1: the production on the field for Stewart and Barwin was

4038
03:29:56,800 --> 03:30:00,440
Speaker 1: was relatively minute this past season, and mommy, if you

4039
03:30:00,440 --> 03:30:04,000
Speaker 1: want to throw them in there, okay, But specifically Barwin

4040
03:30:04,400 --> 03:30:09,560
Speaker 1: helped out Carter Lorenzo Carter immensely in terms of his

4041
03:30:09,600 --> 03:30:13,160
Speaker 1: acclamation to the NFL and his rookie development. Did oh

4042
03:30:13,240 --> 03:30:17,480
Speaker 1: for Stewart to say quad Barkley So, and I know

4043
03:30:17,680 --> 03:30:21,280
Speaker 1: you can't put a tag on the value of what

4044
03:30:21,400 --> 03:30:25,120
Speaker 1: those guys did provide, but suffice it to say, if

4045
03:30:25,160 --> 03:30:27,400
Speaker 1: you could talk to those two guys right now, they

4046
03:30:27,440 --> 03:30:29,840
Speaker 1: would tell you that those two veterans did a lot

4047
03:30:29,879 --> 03:30:31,680
Speaker 1: to help them out. Now, I will say this, I think,

4048
03:30:31,840 --> 03:30:34,200
Speaker 1: knowing what I know about Sae Kwon Barkley, now I

4049
03:30:34,200 --> 03:30:37,720
Speaker 1: think he would have been fined perhaps, but they were

4050
03:30:37,760 --> 03:30:40,560
Speaker 1: protecting their investment. And by the way, you got a

4051
03:30:40,560 --> 03:30:42,760
Speaker 1: guy gone, one of the guys we were talking about

4052
03:30:43,000 --> 03:30:46,119
Speaker 1: the quality corners. Maybe there's gonna be a run Justin

4053
03:30:46,240 --> 03:30:50,720
Speaker 1: Lane from a Michigan state to the Steelers. Good player,

4054
03:30:50,800 --> 03:30:53,039
Speaker 1: former wide receiver by the way, Yeah, he's he's a

4055
03:30:53,040 --> 03:30:54,760
Speaker 1: conversion and that's why people think he's kind of an

4056
03:30:54,760 --> 03:30:58,400
Speaker 1: ascending player where he is still kind of learning some

4057
03:30:58,440 --> 03:31:02,320
Speaker 1: of the technique portions of the positions. He has really

4058
03:31:02,320 --> 03:31:05,000
Speaker 1: good ball skills too. And if I'm not mistaken here, Paul,

4059
03:31:05,080 --> 03:31:07,959
Speaker 1: did not the Steelers take a corner No, they know

4060
03:31:08,000 --> 03:31:10,720
Speaker 1: they've traded up and they selected Devin Bush, so they

4061
03:31:10,720 --> 03:31:13,440
Speaker 1: have not picked the cornerback yet And they didn't need one.

4062
03:31:13,520 --> 03:31:15,680
Speaker 1: And he's he's a guy that can play his own

4063
03:31:15,680 --> 03:31:17,080
Speaker 1: he can play man, he could do both. So I

4064
03:31:17,080 --> 03:31:19,080
Speaker 1: think he's a good fit for Pittsburgh. That's a that's

4065
03:31:19,080 --> 03:31:21,480
Speaker 1: a nice, nice pick right there. And he's got length

4066
03:31:21,520 --> 03:31:23,800
Speaker 1: to which really helps him out against toilet receivers. Well,

4067
03:31:23,840 --> 03:31:26,440
Speaker 1: and they like physical players and and and he's certainly

4068
03:31:26,480 --> 03:31:28,400
Speaker 1: one of them like them. All right, let's go back

4069
03:31:28,400 --> 03:31:33,680
Speaker 1: to the phones. Tony in l A is coming up next. Tony, gentlemen,

4070
03:31:33,959 --> 03:31:37,160
Speaker 1: what's up, long time die hard New York Giants fans

4071
03:31:37,160 --> 03:31:41,320
Speaker 1: from the last sixties. Thank you from somebody who's built

4072
03:31:41,320 --> 03:31:44,360
Speaker 1: sales teams, gentlemen. Walked into a culture that he had

4073
03:31:44,360 --> 03:31:47,080
Speaker 1: to disassemble, obviously after he took some time to go

4074
03:31:47,160 --> 03:31:49,800
Speaker 1: into it. And I think, you know, being a Giant fan,

4075
03:31:49,840 --> 03:31:51,720
Speaker 1: it's very hard to kind of ship back. But he's

4076
03:31:51,760 --> 03:31:54,520
Speaker 1: really rebuilding the culture and the character of his team

4077
03:31:55,040 --> 03:31:58,360
Speaker 1: from a skilled perspective, from our from a talented perspective.

4078
03:31:58,440 --> 03:32:01,160
Speaker 1: The one thing that you know, somebody steps up is

4079
03:32:01,480 --> 03:32:03,959
Speaker 1: to become that Michael Straighthand type of leader. I mean,

4080
03:32:04,000 --> 03:32:08,360
Speaker 1: Eli has been a silent leader, great character. Same thing

4081
03:32:08,360 --> 03:32:10,680
Speaker 1: with Barkley, to tell the kid when they drafted him

4082
03:32:10,760 --> 03:32:13,240
Speaker 1: last year, I could see, besides the gold jacket, how

4083
03:32:13,240 --> 03:32:18,320
Speaker 1: he carries himself great addition to the franchise. The kid

4084
03:32:18,320 --> 03:32:22,480
Speaker 1: they drafted from Georgia dec He's got personality. I was

4085
03:32:22,520 --> 03:32:24,440
Speaker 1: a little concerned when he was coming out. I saw

4086
03:32:24,440 --> 03:32:27,080
Speaker 1: Harry telling himself, but again, you need that swear they'll be.

4087
03:32:27,080 --> 03:32:29,959
Speaker 1: You're gonna also need somebody like a straight hand type

4088
03:32:30,040 --> 03:32:32,400
Speaker 1: leader to keep these guys in line, but at the

4089
03:32:32,440 --> 03:32:34,800
Speaker 1: same time be that orchestra leader to make this thing

4090
03:32:34,879 --> 03:32:37,160
Speaker 1: sing together. Because when they won the Super Bowl, if

4091
03:32:37,160 --> 03:32:38,480
Speaker 1: you looked at him in the middle of the huddle

4092
03:32:38,480 --> 03:32:39,879
Speaker 1: when I came out in the field, he was that

4093
03:32:40,200 --> 03:32:43,360
Speaker 1: center glue and we had not had that. I mean,

4094
03:32:43,640 --> 03:32:48,160
Speaker 1: JPP was great, but he needed a straighthand line. I

4095
03:32:48,200 --> 03:32:50,280
Speaker 1: think somebody's gonna have to grow into that role. You

4096
03:32:50,320 --> 03:32:52,520
Speaker 1: can't just hand that role to somebody. With so many

4097
03:32:52,560 --> 03:32:54,760
Speaker 1: young players on this defense, someone's gonna have to grow

4098
03:32:54,760 --> 03:32:56,920
Speaker 1: into it, and I think it could be Lorenzo Carter.

4099
03:32:57,320 --> 03:33:00,720
Speaker 1: I think maybe it could be Jero Peppers. Um, maybe

4100
03:33:00,720 --> 03:33:04,440
Speaker 1: those two guys. I mean, listening to Dexter Lawrence, usually

4101
03:33:04,520 --> 03:33:06,560
Speaker 1: those really big guys at DT, those not the guys

4102
03:33:06,600 --> 03:33:08,280
Speaker 1: that kind of take the leadership range just kind of

4103
03:33:08,320 --> 03:33:10,840
Speaker 1: not in their nature in the past. But I think

4104
03:33:10,840 --> 03:33:13,080
Speaker 1: those are guys that are possibilities that that really could

4105
03:33:13,080 --> 03:33:15,320
Speaker 1: take the reins here and and be that leader on defense.

4106
03:33:15,400 --> 03:33:17,080
Speaker 1: Or maybe maybe it's a guy us on the roster,

4107
03:33:17,160 --> 03:33:18,760
Speaker 1: yet maybe it's the guy that they draft next year

4108
03:33:18,840 --> 03:33:20,959
Speaker 1: they signed a free agency so and I think ogle

4109
03:33:20,959 --> 03:33:22,960
Speaker 1: Tree right now is really the leader on defense, by

4110
03:33:23,000 --> 03:33:25,039
Speaker 1: the way, even if he's not like that super duper

4111
03:33:25,120 --> 03:33:29,000
Speaker 1: vocal guy. Right and I think, you know, this kid

4112
03:33:29,040 --> 03:33:31,880
Speaker 1: at quarterback get a gym a break. I I believe

4113
03:33:31,920 --> 03:33:35,600
Speaker 1: in gentleman, I love the leaders and this kid is

4114
03:33:35,600 --> 03:33:38,760
Speaker 1: going to get come into the role um over time.

4115
03:33:38,800 --> 03:33:41,039
Speaker 1: Whether eli's days a year, he could even be here

4116
03:33:41,080 --> 03:33:44,400
Speaker 1: two years. I don't think the guys's broken, as everybody says.

4117
03:33:44,400 --> 03:33:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't think he's broken. He couldn't run when he

4118
03:33:46,000 --> 03:33:50,240
Speaker 1: was twenty three years old. I mean they expect miracles exactly. No,

4119
03:33:50,440 --> 03:33:55,800
Speaker 1: you're right, You're not wrong that I'm defending him, because

4120
03:33:55,920 --> 03:33:58,280
Speaker 1: you know, sports fans is very different culture out here.

4121
03:33:59,080 --> 03:34:01,680
Speaker 1: But you know, I think you I is gonna I

4122
03:34:01,959 --> 03:34:04,200
Speaker 1: still think it's two years on this team because I

4123
03:34:04,240 --> 03:34:05,879
Speaker 1: think they're gonna give this kid the time to grow

4124
03:34:05,920 --> 03:34:07,560
Speaker 1: into it. And I no, nobody thinks you are. Headway

4125
03:34:07,600 --> 03:34:09,600
Speaker 1: through the season. I don't think the Giants are gonna

4126
03:34:09,640 --> 03:34:11,360
Speaker 1: fall apart. I think there are a couple of players

4127
03:34:11,400 --> 03:34:13,920
Speaker 1: away from being a nine and seven team and they're

4128
03:34:13,920 --> 03:34:16,320
Speaker 1: gonna continue to grow. We just on in patient as

4129
03:34:16,360 --> 03:34:19,920
Speaker 1: a you know, football fans. It's New York Giants fans. Well,

4130
03:34:20,000 --> 03:34:23,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate the perspective. It's certainly even keel and there's

4131
03:34:23,480 --> 03:34:27,560
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that opinion, despite what some naysayers and

4132
03:34:27,600 --> 03:34:30,680
Speaker 1: critics would say. Basically, you know what you said at

4133
03:34:30,720 --> 03:34:33,000
Speaker 1: the beginning of your phone call is what I try

4134
03:34:33,040 --> 03:34:35,400
Speaker 1: to tell people. And the analogy is, if you're going

4135
03:34:35,480 --> 03:34:38,360
Speaker 1: to refinish a piece of furniture, you know, you get

4136
03:34:38,440 --> 03:34:40,800
Speaker 1: that turpentine and you and you pour it over the

4137
03:34:40,840 --> 03:34:43,600
Speaker 1: furniture and you you scrap, you know, scrape off all

4138
03:34:43,640 --> 03:34:45,920
Speaker 1: the finish. Well, that's what the Giants tried to do

4139
03:34:46,080 --> 03:34:49,120
Speaker 1: last year. Dave Gettlman was was taking the turpentine and

4140
03:34:49,160 --> 03:34:51,680
Speaker 1: scraping off the finish in the locker room. Now it's

4141
03:34:51,720 --> 03:34:53,800
Speaker 1: time to send it down, do a little bit more

4142
03:34:53,879 --> 03:34:56,560
Speaker 1: of that and start putting a new code on. I mean,

4143
03:34:56,800 --> 03:35:00,040
Speaker 1: it's a multi step process. It does not happen in

4144
03:35:00,280 --> 03:35:04,480
Speaker 1: one year. And you know, obviously you understand that. I

4145
03:35:04,600 --> 03:35:06,960
Speaker 1: do understand that, and I'm not sorry to see Odell go.

4146
03:35:07,160 --> 03:35:10,600
Speaker 1: I think he's a tremendous talent. But you can't disrupt

4147
03:35:10,680 --> 03:35:13,720
Speaker 1: the culture. I mean, I remember L T and LT

4148
03:35:13,959 --> 03:35:16,720
Speaker 1: obviously had his issues, but it stayed in a certain place.

4149
03:35:17,160 --> 03:35:19,040
Speaker 1: His issues came onto the field, and I think it

4150
03:35:19,120 --> 03:35:21,160
Speaker 1: really disrupted the culture. And they have got a lot

4151
03:35:21,240 --> 03:35:23,640
Speaker 1: of young kids and get influenced by this. So the

4152
03:35:23,720 --> 03:35:25,720
Speaker 1: gentleman did a great job. It was a smart move

4153
03:35:25,800 --> 03:35:27,680
Speaker 1: and I know fans in the short terms don't like it,

4154
03:35:28,000 --> 03:35:29,960
Speaker 1: but I think three or four years down the road,

4155
03:35:30,000 --> 03:35:33,039
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a team that's gonna consistently went overturn.

4156
03:35:33,560 --> 03:35:36,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tony, appreciate it a call again. Appreciate it.

4157
03:35:37,920 --> 03:35:40,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate Hey, look we got three straight l A

4158
03:35:40,400 --> 03:35:42,480
Speaker 1: or California. Cause right here, see what happens when we

4159
03:35:42,879 --> 03:35:44,840
Speaker 1: go at night. This is good time zone stuff for

4160
03:35:44,879 --> 03:35:46,600
Speaker 1: the Pacific time zone here and there ready to rock

4161
03:35:46,680 --> 03:35:48,720
Speaker 1: and roll. I was just looking John, and you know,

4162
03:35:48,840 --> 03:35:50,800
Speaker 1: this is kind of like a casino in our studio.

4163
03:35:51,160 --> 03:35:53,600
Speaker 1: There are no clocks. The only clocks we have are

4164
03:35:53,640 --> 03:35:56,440
Speaker 1: on the computers. And all of a sudden, Wow, it's

4165
03:35:56,480 --> 03:35:58,760
Speaker 1: already past ten thirty. We've been we've been going over

4166
03:35:58,840 --> 03:36:02,840
Speaker 1: three hours. Kalen Saunders from Western Illinois the pick for

4167
03:36:02,879 --> 03:36:06,600
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs as they try to fortify that

4168
03:36:06,800 --> 03:36:09,200
Speaker 1: defense to help out that explosive offense. So we are

4169
03:36:09,240 --> 03:36:13,959
Speaker 1: officially ten picks away from the New York Football Giants,

4170
03:36:14,000 --> 03:36:16,880
Speaker 1: and and you guys have carried us and we still

4171
03:36:16,920 --> 03:36:19,039
Speaker 1: got a full bank. Accoll It's God bless you. Let's

4172
03:36:19,040 --> 03:36:22,360
Speaker 1: go to stand as a sand Or stand. It's Son,

4173
03:36:22,600 --> 03:36:26,280
Speaker 1: Son in California. Son, what's going on? Hello? Hey, Hey,

4174
03:36:26,360 --> 03:36:28,080
Speaker 1: what's it good? Guys? Hey, thank you guys for holding

4175
03:36:28,160 --> 03:36:31,040
Speaker 1: us down. I have the NFL channel on New you

4176
03:36:31,080 --> 03:36:34,680
Speaker 1: got I got you guys on Blast, And thank you

4177
03:36:34,760 --> 03:36:38,320
Speaker 1: so much for that. Thank you, thank you for calling in, because,

4178
03:36:38,360 --> 03:36:39,600
Speaker 1: by the way, we wouldn't be able to do a

4179
03:36:39,680 --> 03:36:42,160
Speaker 1: four hour show like this if if it wasn't for

4180
03:36:42,200 --> 03:36:45,520
Speaker 1: you guys calling in. I appreciate that. And I was

4181
03:36:45,560 --> 03:36:47,760
Speaker 1: just gonna ask you Giants fans and you guys can

4182
03:36:47,800 --> 03:36:50,640
Speaker 1: just give me a thirty seconds to just van go

4183
03:36:50,680 --> 03:36:53,360
Speaker 1: ahead experious with the pick last night, I would have

4184
03:36:53,400 --> 03:36:56,040
Speaker 1: took Josh Allen. It's a fourth stop us know and

4185
03:36:56,120 --> 03:36:59,040
Speaker 1: me did on defense. But the seventeenth pick I took

4186
03:36:59,080 --> 03:37:02,160
Speaker 1: on did it. It's not here Juan Taylor. I mean, like,

4187
03:37:02,640 --> 03:37:04,840
Speaker 1: oh so mad, But I get it. That's the one.

4188
03:37:05,000 --> 03:37:07,520
Speaker 1: I get it, you know, I get it. It's a

4189
03:37:07,600 --> 03:37:10,360
Speaker 1: safe pick, it's a safe kick it if it stills,

4190
03:37:10,400 --> 03:37:13,240
Speaker 1: it stills. I can see him as a popole of US.

4191
03:37:13,480 --> 03:37:15,720
Speaker 1: I can see him playing for ten years and as

4192
03:37:15,840 --> 03:37:17,720
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I'm not gonna loast the kick, and guy's

4193
03:37:17,800 --> 03:37:20,800
Speaker 1: right to kid. You know, Hopefully he he turns out

4194
03:37:20,879 --> 03:37:23,360
Speaker 1: to be a good NFL quarterback for US. I love

4195
03:37:23,480 --> 03:37:26,000
Speaker 1: the I love training back in, the aggressiveness to get

4196
03:37:26,080 --> 03:37:28,560
Speaker 1: DeAndre break. I honestly thought, you know, he was my

4197
03:37:28,640 --> 03:37:30,960
Speaker 1: favorite going back. And I'm not just saying that. I

4198
03:37:31,080 --> 03:37:33,960
Speaker 1: love the kid's attitude. I love I love his competitiveness

4199
03:37:34,000 --> 03:37:37,560
Speaker 1: as ego doesn't get in the way. Um. I just

4200
03:37:37,680 --> 03:37:39,600
Speaker 1: kind of felt like that was a really really good move,

4201
03:37:40,040 --> 03:37:42,600
Speaker 1: you know. And it's sad because we did have three

4202
03:37:43,040 --> 03:37:46,280
Speaker 1: first round draft picks and everybody's talking about our number

4203
03:37:46,360 --> 03:37:48,800
Speaker 1: six spit. You know, let the kid developed on the

4204
03:37:48,840 --> 03:37:52,440
Speaker 1: Eli manning on the Bacheirman and we'll see what happens.

4205
03:37:52,720 --> 03:37:54,440
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna leave it at this. I'm gonna leave

4206
03:37:54,480 --> 03:37:58,640
Speaker 1: it at this. If you guys love this pit, god forbid,

4207
03:37:59,800 --> 03:38:02,400
Speaker 1: we get the first pick overall next season. I better

4208
03:38:02,560 --> 03:38:08,000
Speaker 1: not see the Alazona model, all right, so that's pretty funny.

4209
03:38:10,400 --> 03:38:15,080
Speaker 1: Then not see that Kim button not still on the board.

4210
03:38:15,440 --> 03:38:18,840
Speaker 1: He's my life. Let's go. I don't see anybody I

4211
03:38:19,000 --> 03:38:21,480
Speaker 1: want on the line right now. Let's fix that later.

4212
03:38:21,920 --> 03:38:23,640
Speaker 1: Let's go get a Kim Butler. You guys have good

4213
03:38:23,640 --> 03:38:26,120
Speaker 1: and thank you so much. You appreciate the call. Buddy,

4214
03:38:26,160 --> 03:38:27,959
Speaker 1: guess watch you on. That's funny. And by the way,

4215
03:38:27,959 --> 03:38:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't I think that's a new model. By the way,

4216
03:38:30,200 --> 03:38:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, they're like, you know, released a brand new

4217
03:38:32,120 --> 03:38:34,080
Speaker 1: model car right like the car show, and it's a

4218
03:38:35,080 --> 03:38:36,520
Speaker 1: it's like a test car and they're not sure if

4219
03:38:36,520 --> 03:38:39,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna reproduce it yet. That's what the Arizona model

4220
03:38:39,640 --> 03:38:42,000
Speaker 1: was last year into this year, I thought treading with

4221
03:38:42,160 --> 03:38:45,720
Speaker 1: copy of that one. By the way, the Baltimore Ravens

4222
03:38:45,920 --> 03:38:48,760
Speaker 1: badly needing and sh rusher and edge rusher. They take

4223
03:38:48,840 --> 03:38:52,000
Speaker 1: Jalen Ferguson. So they lost both Terrell Suggs and Zadarius

4224
03:38:52,080 --> 03:38:54,520
Speaker 1: Smith in the season, and so this is a no

4225
03:38:54,720 --> 03:38:57,200
Speaker 1: brainer for them. They go after a guy who was

4226
03:38:57,280 --> 03:39:00,160
Speaker 1: the Conference USA Defensive Player of the Year and put

4227
03:39:00,280 --> 03:39:02,840
Speaker 1: up a bunch of sacks. Still got Max Crosby, You

4228
03:39:02,920 --> 03:39:06,360
Speaker 1: still got Christian Miller, and you still got Anthony Nelson.

4229
03:39:07,080 --> 03:39:10,279
Speaker 1: Three pretty good edge players, Paul. Now, I think Anthony

4230
03:39:10,320 --> 03:39:12,160
Speaker 1: else is more of a four three end when you

4231
03:39:12,160 --> 03:39:15,199
Speaker 1: gets a little tricky. But I think Crosby and Miller

4232
03:39:15,720 --> 03:39:19,400
Speaker 1: are perfect three four stand up rushers. Now, Miller's got

4233
03:39:19,440 --> 03:39:25,160
Speaker 1: an injury deal, um, and obviously from Eastern Michigan. Crosby

4234
03:39:25,280 --> 03:39:29,560
Speaker 1: is a guy that maybe a little bit maybe a

4235
03:39:29,600 --> 03:39:32,920
Speaker 1: little bit developmental, but I think he's got the tools. See,

4236
03:39:33,360 --> 03:39:35,760
Speaker 1: isn't it funny? I had Nelson uh to be a

4237
03:39:35,840 --> 03:39:38,280
Speaker 1: four three d ND or even move inside. He can

4238
03:39:38,320 --> 03:39:41,720
Speaker 1: play three, you can play three T and Crosby, I

4239
03:39:41,920 --> 03:39:44,240
Speaker 1: I had even I thought, maybe add a little bit

4240
03:39:44,280 --> 03:39:46,119
Speaker 1: of waiting strength to him, gonna be a four three

4241
03:39:46,200 --> 03:39:47,800
Speaker 1: d ND. No, I mean you have to add tho

4242
03:39:47,840 --> 03:39:49,720
Speaker 1: because right now he's only two fifty, so he'd have

4243
03:39:49,760 --> 03:39:52,200
Speaker 1: to pump up a little bit. See the number that

4244
03:39:52,280 --> 03:39:54,640
Speaker 1: I had seen on him was to sixty something. Let

4245
03:39:54,680 --> 03:39:56,640
Speaker 1: me say, hold on, all right, maybe that's changed. Maybe

4246
03:39:56,680 --> 03:39:58,800
Speaker 1: that's not the number that that I saw. I might

4247
03:39:58,840 --> 03:40:00,720
Speaker 1: have a memorize wrong. I must say I don't have

4248
03:40:00,760 --> 03:40:05,720
Speaker 1: everybody's weights accurately. Eastern Michigan. Uh six five to six

4249
03:40:06,240 --> 03:40:09,720
Speaker 1: is the number? Is the listing that that could they?

4250
03:40:09,840 --> 03:40:12,879
Speaker 1: That could be a miss miss print. His combine measurements

4251
03:40:13,000 --> 03:40:20,360
Speaker 1: came in at so halfway in between. Okay, we got

4252
03:40:20,440 --> 03:40:23,040
Speaker 1: another tight end going off the board. Oh Caw Warring

4253
03:40:23,200 --> 03:40:25,960
Speaker 1: from San Diego State. You want an athlete that needs

4254
03:40:26,000 --> 03:40:28,160
Speaker 1: to learn how to play the position, it's this guy.

4255
03:40:28,680 --> 03:40:31,880
Speaker 1: He was a water polo goalie, believe it or not,

4256
03:40:32,440 --> 03:40:34,240
Speaker 1: and I think he picked up football only two or

4257
03:40:34,320 --> 03:40:39,039
Speaker 1: three years ago. But he is a freak show athlete.

4258
03:40:39,160 --> 03:40:40,680
Speaker 1: But he's got to learn how to play football a

4259
03:40:40,680 --> 03:40:43,360
Speaker 1: little bit better. He reminds me of the kid that

4260
03:40:43,600 --> 03:40:46,240
Speaker 1: the Bears drafted last year to play tight end from

4261
03:40:46,280 --> 03:40:50,360
Speaker 1: the small school in the second round. What was the

4262
03:40:50,400 --> 03:40:54,440
Speaker 1: kid's name? Killing me? I gotta remember, but um, very

4263
03:40:54,600 --> 03:40:56,800
Speaker 1: very very athletic player, but again, bit of a project.

4264
03:40:56,879 --> 03:40:59,080
Speaker 1: So we're to pick number twenty four in the round

4265
03:40:59,360 --> 03:41:02,960
Speaker 1: the Giants again or number thirty two. I apologize for

4266
03:41:03,000 --> 03:41:05,040
Speaker 1: the sneezy and clothing. By the way, allergy season is

4267
03:41:05,400 --> 03:41:08,120
Speaker 1: waging war on me and I am losing, but I'm

4268
03:41:08,160 --> 03:41:10,720
Speaker 1: doing my best. Hey, we'll keep it going, man, that's

4269
03:41:10,760 --> 03:41:13,920
Speaker 1: all right. Let's go to Steve. He's in l A also, Steve.

4270
03:41:14,000 --> 03:41:18,000
Speaker 1: Oh hello, Steve. Hey, what's up, guys? How are you

4271
03:41:18,040 --> 03:41:22,280
Speaker 1: guys doing a good good? Um? So, I got a

4272
03:41:22,320 --> 03:41:25,119
Speaker 1: couple of questions. I'm gonna make this fast ahead. Think

4273
03:41:25,160 --> 03:41:26,960
Speaker 1: about that is the guy wants the Giants to go

4274
03:41:27,040 --> 03:41:30,160
Speaker 1: after his Connor mcdubban. If you see him six five,

4275
03:41:30,320 --> 03:41:32,880
Speaker 1: three or eight, big call guy, you know, get him

4276
03:41:32,879 --> 03:41:35,240
Speaker 1: to like those hog Molly's on you know the old line.

4277
03:41:35,280 --> 03:41:37,840
Speaker 1: Now he's a center, you know that, right, Yeah, he's

4278
03:41:37,879 --> 03:41:40,800
Speaker 1: a center, splash o guard. But I mean the senies

4279
03:41:40,879 --> 03:41:42,480
Speaker 1: is as a couple of wide receivers out there. You're

4280
03:41:42,520 --> 03:41:45,879
Speaker 1: talking about Crosby. He's six five, two fifty five. He's

4281
03:41:45,879 --> 03:41:48,600
Speaker 1: like a three four offensive linebacker. I mean, you know

4282
03:41:48,720 --> 03:41:52,720
Speaker 1: he's he could transition as well. But well, I mean,

4283
03:41:52,840 --> 03:41:58,520
Speaker 1: you know he had great combine numbers like sixp I'm sorry,

4284
03:41:58,600 --> 03:42:01,080
Speaker 1: by the way, Steve By, I'm sorry. I wasn't saying

4285
03:42:01,080 --> 03:42:03,280
Speaker 1: wow to you. I was wowing that the Patriots just

4286
03:42:03,360 --> 03:42:06,840
Speaker 1: took a running back Damian Harris when they picked Sony

4287
03:42:06,959 --> 03:42:10,039
Speaker 1: Michelle last year, and they have and they have White

4288
03:42:10,080 --> 03:42:12,760
Speaker 1: on the roster still, right. I mean I was so

4289
03:42:12,959 --> 03:42:16,040
Speaker 1: perplexed by that I actually lost the carler's content. So

4290
03:42:16,200 --> 03:42:19,800
Speaker 1: please repeat for me, because that really stunned. Sorry about that, Steve,

4291
03:42:19,840 --> 03:42:25,040
Speaker 1: I apologize. I honestly stops. It's only a third round stunner,

4292
03:42:25,160 --> 03:42:27,480
Speaker 1: so maybe that's not that big a deal. But go ahead.

4293
03:42:28,959 --> 03:42:31,160
Speaker 1: Patriots like the bulk up on on a whole bunch

4294
03:42:31,200 --> 03:42:34,200
Speaker 1: of talents. I mean that's what they do. That's right,

4295
03:42:34,280 --> 03:42:38,240
Speaker 1: had Belichick's guys. Yeah, it's just it's just a Belichick model. Now.

4296
03:42:38,400 --> 03:42:41,280
Speaker 1: The thing with the Giants model is everyone was saying,

4297
03:42:41,400 --> 03:42:43,240
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, he got, he fell all the way to

4298
03:42:43,280 --> 03:42:45,760
Speaker 1: twenty four Rodgers and he sat three years behind farm

4299
03:42:45,879 --> 03:42:49,119
Speaker 1: think right, go ahead that three years and then he developed.

4300
03:42:49,360 --> 03:42:51,480
Speaker 1: Thing about this is is that you still got Alex

4301
03:42:51,560 --> 03:42:54,000
Speaker 1: Tanney and you have plo Letta, so easily this year

4302
03:42:54,080 --> 03:42:56,760
Speaker 1: you could slot Daniel Jones as the third quarterback on

4303
03:42:57,160 --> 03:42:59,800
Speaker 1: the on the depth chart easily behind them, you know,

4304
03:43:00,120 --> 03:43:02,959
Speaker 1: unless he impresses he can make it to two maybe possibly,

4305
03:43:03,440 --> 03:43:07,480
Speaker 1: But then do you keep Elie and have him learn again?

4306
03:43:08,040 --> 03:43:10,360
Speaker 1: Remember Gettleman said that he wants guys that are going

4307
03:43:10,400 --> 03:43:12,840
Speaker 1: to improve right away. But I don't trust what Getleman

4308
03:43:12,840 --> 03:43:14,480
Speaker 1: says because he said he's not going to trade Oi

4309
03:43:14,560 --> 03:43:19,359
Speaker 1: be Jamie did, but you know he did trade him exactly.

4310
03:43:19,440 --> 03:43:20,960
Speaker 1: But then he also said he wants guys like the

4311
03:43:21,080 --> 03:43:23,520
Speaker 1: gold jacket last year with the with the with the

4312
03:43:23,600 --> 03:43:26,040
Speaker 1: second pick. I mean you don't think Barkley could be

4313
03:43:26,080 --> 03:43:28,600
Speaker 1: a gold jack No. I think he questions whether or

4314
03:43:28,640 --> 03:43:32,000
Speaker 1: not Jones is the gold jacket guy. I mean, I

4315
03:43:32,040 --> 03:43:33,840
Speaker 1: will tell my dad this, and I don't know if

4316
03:43:33,920 --> 03:43:36,760
Speaker 1: like if this is kind of strange, but you can't

4317
03:43:36,840 --> 03:43:39,800
Speaker 1: really give Gettleman the pick for Barkley because anyone would

4318
03:43:39,800 --> 03:43:42,280
Speaker 1: have picked Barkley at two, really true, there were a

4319
03:43:42,360 --> 03:43:44,760
Speaker 1: ton of people who would have taken a quarterback. Come on,

4320
03:43:44,959 --> 03:43:46,400
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of people that would have taken

4321
03:43:46,440 --> 03:43:48,360
Speaker 1: a quarterback. And I think there's some people that might

4322
03:43:48,400 --> 03:43:50,960
Speaker 1: have taken Chubb. To to be honest with you, you're right,

4323
03:43:51,080 --> 03:43:53,080
Speaker 1: You're right. I mean he you know, he drafted will

4324
03:43:53,120 --> 03:43:55,840
Speaker 1: Her Nanny's great pick. You know, he drafted b J. Hill,

4325
03:43:55,920 --> 03:43:59,560
Speaker 1: great pick, Lorenzo Carter. You know, Jerry Reese always drafted

4326
03:43:59,720 --> 03:44:02,560
Speaker 1: the best player available. That was his modest the best

4327
03:44:02,600 --> 03:44:05,080
Speaker 1: athlete available, more than the best player available. Too many,

4328
03:44:05,280 --> 03:44:08,320
Speaker 1: very true, very true. Missed on a lot of picks.

4329
03:44:08,400 --> 03:44:10,400
Speaker 1: But you have to give credit to Gettleman for his

4330
03:44:10,600 --> 03:44:12,360
Speaker 1: for his first draft ever. I mean, he came into

4331
03:44:12,440 --> 03:44:16,320
Speaker 1: without a doubt rookie grads could in his own. But

4332
03:44:16,879 --> 03:44:18,800
Speaker 1: if if you look at what he did with with

4333
03:44:19,040 --> 03:44:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, DeAndre Baker, and if you look at the

4334
03:44:21,360 --> 03:44:23,600
Speaker 1: Giants would have picked that thirty seven, how many cornerbacks

4335
03:44:23,720 --> 03:44:26,200
Speaker 1: came off the board in the second round A lot?

4336
03:44:26,800 --> 03:44:29,640
Speaker 1: Well that's why I actually, yeah, you gotta really feel

4337
03:44:29,680 --> 03:44:32,160
Speaker 1: good about what he did because he was proactive and

4338
03:44:32,240 --> 03:44:35,840
Speaker 1: went and got a Baker before the run. Correct. You know,

4339
03:44:36,000 --> 03:44:38,400
Speaker 1: if if you heard what Gettlman said, he said he

4340
03:44:38,600 --> 03:44:41,360
Speaker 1: used him as the best cover corner in the draft.

4341
03:44:41,959 --> 03:44:45,320
Speaker 1: We use them. So he's five eleven one. He needed

4342
03:44:45,360 --> 03:44:47,480
Speaker 1: the bulk up because when you go against guys like Cooper,

4343
03:44:47,520 --> 03:44:49,800
Speaker 1: and you go against guys like al Sean Jefferies, you

4344
03:44:49,879 --> 03:44:51,120
Speaker 1: know you need a bulk up a little bit. But

4345
03:44:52,040 --> 03:44:54,480
Speaker 1: I think he's he's good. I don't think he's an

4346
03:44:54,480 --> 03:44:56,880
Speaker 1: Eli Apple like some people are comparing him to. I

4347
03:44:56,920 --> 03:44:59,880
Speaker 1: don't think compare him to Aissante Samuel. To be pref

4348
03:45:00,240 --> 03:45:02,640
Speaker 1: frank with you, that's the pro comparison to Scout told

4349
03:45:02,680 --> 03:45:06,320
Speaker 1: me he's he's a Sante Samuel type. Yeah, I mean,

4350
03:45:06,400 --> 03:45:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I saw what I saw what

4351
03:45:08,280 --> 03:45:10,880
Speaker 1: he did in Colle Saw College. He's great. Could he

4352
03:45:10,959 --> 03:45:15,440
Speaker 1: have been there at seven morning? Yeah, hard to say,

4353
03:45:15,760 --> 03:45:18,440
Speaker 1: very hard to say. I mean, could Dextor Lawrence have

4354
03:45:18,520 --> 03:45:20,520
Speaker 1: been there to sing about No no, no no no

4355
03:45:20,680 --> 03:45:24,120
Speaker 1: no no no way, no way, no way no he

4356
03:45:24,680 --> 03:45:27,840
Speaker 1: he he was a top pick. Yeah, okay, Well, I

4357
03:45:27,879 --> 03:45:29,000
Speaker 1: mean you know, he only had one and a half

4358
03:45:29,040 --> 03:45:32,920
Speaker 1: sacks giant at Russians. I really wanted Ferguson, Jalen Ferguson.

4359
03:45:33,000 --> 03:45:38,040
Speaker 1: I wanted him, honestly in the first round, Steve, Honestly,

4360
03:45:38,200 --> 03:45:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm very concerned about Jalen Ferguson. Yeah, he got a

4361
03:45:40,800 --> 03:45:43,160
Speaker 1: lot of sacks. He with a small school in Louisiana tech.

4362
03:45:43,720 --> 03:45:49,960
Speaker 1: His testing numbers were horrible, like epically bad, terrible. I'm

4363
03:45:50,040 --> 03:45:53,360
Speaker 1: worried about his twitchiness, his bend. I'm not sure his

4364
03:45:53,440 --> 03:45:55,840
Speaker 1: production is going to translate to the NFL. I'm worried

4365
03:45:55,840 --> 03:45:57,640
Speaker 1: about it, but I gotta be honest. What about what

4366
03:45:57,720 --> 03:46:01,120
Speaker 1: about Montesta? Oh? I like, he might like, But I

4367
03:46:01,640 --> 03:46:03,600
Speaker 1: also don't know what they think about the medical And

4368
03:46:03,720 --> 03:46:06,280
Speaker 1: that's the thing that's obviously the issue that I can't

4369
03:46:06,320 --> 03:46:09,360
Speaker 1: comment on as a player. If he's clear medically and

4370
03:46:09,480 --> 03:46:11,480
Speaker 1: he's there at seventeen, I would have taken him in

4371
03:46:11,480 --> 03:46:13,959
Speaker 1: a second. Here here's the problem with what you're doing.

4372
03:46:14,080 --> 03:46:18,120
Speaker 1: And I understand the questions, but when you're asking us

4373
03:46:18,200 --> 03:46:22,240
Speaker 1: to like punch holes into certain guys, when we don't

4374
03:46:22,280 --> 03:46:26,080
Speaker 1: have the complete personnel folder on those guys, it's it's

4375
03:46:26,240 --> 03:46:28,640
Speaker 1: it's really really difficult. We may be able to tell

4376
03:46:28,680 --> 03:46:31,280
Speaker 1: you some questions about the tape that the guy has,

4377
03:46:31,840 --> 03:46:35,560
Speaker 1: but anything beyond tape, those holes get punched by front offices,

4378
03:46:36,200 --> 03:46:39,480
Speaker 1: not by people who don't do this for a living. Paul,

4379
03:46:39,520 --> 03:46:40,880
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question, what do you got?

4380
03:46:42,160 --> 03:46:44,120
Speaker 1: Do you know who Cody Barton is? I don't. I

4381
03:46:44,200 --> 03:46:46,560
Speaker 1: just went through my notes and he's a linebacker from

4382
03:46:46,680 --> 03:46:50,119
Speaker 1: Utah took at picked number twenty five in the round.

4383
03:46:50,200 --> 03:46:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm happy I wasn't the only Let me get Dan

4384
03:46:53,680 --> 03:46:56,160
Speaker 1: Shaks our Lands got up, I got Brugally here. So

4385
03:46:56,240 --> 03:46:58,840
Speaker 1: let's see who first he's got. Cody barn is a

4386
03:46:59,040 --> 03:47:02,480
Speaker 1: fifth slash sick the round grade senior six to one

4387
03:47:02,520 --> 03:47:04,280
Speaker 1: of your linebacker. You you know what, we ran a

4388
03:47:04,320 --> 03:47:08,600
Speaker 1: four six four, which is a pretty good time. Um yeah,

4389
03:47:08,680 --> 03:47:12,040
Speaker 1: but that that's wow, then, don't I don't really know

4390
03:47:12,120 --> 03:47:14,520
Speaker 1: Cody Barton. That's the first guy that's gotten picked that

4391
03:47:14,640 --> 03:47:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, not that familiar with him, because the first

4392
03:47:16,760 --> 03:47:19,600
Speaker 1: guy everyone else I've I've pretty familiar I I have.

4393
03:47:19,959 --> 03:47:22,640
Speaker 1: I have no listening of Cody Barton on any of

4394
03:47:22,720 --> 03:47:24,000
Speaker 1: my notes at all, and won if he's in a

4395
03:47:24,040 --> 03:47:26,400
Speaker 1: different position because he just know, you know what. Let

4396
03:47:26,480 --> 03:47:29,320
Speaker 1: me let me go to uh to Shanka's index and

4397
03:47:29,400 --> 03:47:31,840
Speaker 1: see if there's something more about him. And we'll have

4398
03:47:31,920 --> 03:47:34,440
Speaker 1: Dan shank On tomorrow. By the way, during rounds uh

4399
03:47:34,520 --> 03:47:37,400
Speaker 1: four or five six, five four or five six, But

4400
03:47:37,440 --> 03:47:38,960
Speaker 1: we're not gonna stay for six. We're just gonna do

4401
03:47:39,040 --> 03:47:42,120
Speaker 1: four and five. Natalie said she would actually murder us

4402
03:47:42,160 --> 03:47:43,840
Speaker 1: if we made her stay here for round six and seven.

4403
03:47:48,800 --> 03:47:51,680
Speaker 1: Sorry Natalie, Now she's doing a great job. Somebody Actually,

4404
03:47:51,680 --> 03:47:53,800
Speaker 1: I gotta give Natalie credit. Somebody tried to relieve her

4405
03:47:53,840 --> 03:47:57,280
Speaker 1: and she said, no, she's voluntarily spending more time with you, Paul.

4406
03:47:57,400 --> 03:47:59,040
Speaker 1: That might be the first time that ever happened beside

4407
03:47:59,040 --> 03:48:01,920
Speaker 1: your family only smokes. That's out of control. Are you

4408
03:48:02,000 --> 03:48:06,040
Speaker 1: sure you're all right there? All right? Did you find them?

4409
03:48:06,240 --> 03:48:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking for him. I'm a good for him right now.

4410
03:48:09,160 --> 03:48:10,440
Speaker 1: Was he in the index? Yeah, he was in the

4411
03:48:10,520 --> 03:48:13,240
Speaker 1: ind He listened defensive lineman. No, he was listed as

4412
03:48:13,240 --> 03:48:15,120
Speaker 1: a linebacker and they gave him a grade of five

4413
03:48:15,200 --> 03:48:18,000
Speaker 1: point four five. That's not very good. So well, it's

4414
03:48:18,080 --> 03:48:21,480
Speaker 1: it's here he is. They got him down as a

4415
03:48:21,840 --> 03:48:25,240
Speaker 1: fifth or sixth rounder. A had four sacks last year,

4416
03:48:25,320 --> 03:48:27,640
Speaker 1: ten and a half tackles for a loss, a hundred

4417
03:48:27,680 --> 03:48:31,760
Speaker 1: and sixteen total tackles six to thirty seven, ran a

4418
03:48:31,920 --> 03:48:36,240
Speaker 1: four six to one year starter experience outside and inside

4419
03:48:36,320 --> 03:48:39,280
Speaker 1: sub package player for two years prior to be at

4420
03:48:39,280 --> 03:48:42,520
Speaker 1: a full time starter in eighteen. It says year he

4421
03:48:42,640 --> 03:48:45,560
Speaker 1: could develop into an NFL starter in the right scheme.

4422
03:48:45,920 --> 03:48:48,560
Speaker 1: Okay about that, And he goes to Seattle and you know, see,

4423
03:48:48,560 --> 03:48:51,440
Speaker 1: I don't knows how to develop defensive players. They do

4424
03:48:51,680 --> 03:48:53,560
Speaker 1: so I would not peak out and knows what he's

4425
03:48:53,600 --> 03:48:55,560
Speaker 1: doing over there, but it does seem like that's around

4426
03:48:55,560 --> 03:48:57,760
Speaker 1: it too early. The Colts pick is in at eighty nine,

4427
03:48:57,840 --> 03:49:01,200
Speaker 1: then you have Dallas and ninety charger Vikings unless I

4428
03:49:01,280 --> 03:49:03,160
Speaker 1: miss some trade, which is very possible by the way,

4429
03:49:03,760 --> 03:49:06,480
Speaker 1: Jets Rams and then the Giants are up. No, no

4430
03:49:06,600 --> 03:49:09,080
Speaker 1: Buccaneers instead of the Rams Agency. I told you I

4431
03:49:09,120 --> 03:49:11,480
Speaker 1: was gonna That's why I'm double checking you. I'll cross

4432
03:49:11,520 --> 03:49:13,200
Speaker 1: that out. Thank you for we're getting this thing done.

4433
03:49:13,520 --> 03:49:16,040
Speaker 1: So many trades and the Colts. How was this guy

4434
03:49:16,120 --> 03:49:18,200
Speaker 1: talking before he announces the pick he's given, like the

4435
03:49:19,000 --> 03:49:22,400
Speaker 1: uh state of the Union? Here? Is that McAfee, I

4436
03:49:22,480 --> 03:49:26,200
Speaker 1: bet you it is. He's very enthusiastic. Well, he's got

4437
03:49:26,280 --> 03:49:28,280
Speaker 1: a lot of facial here. Now I don't remember that

4438
03:49:28,400 --> 03:49:30,040
Speaker 1: last time I saw him. It's too late for that

4439
03:49:30,160 --> 03:49:32,680
Speaker 1: type of enthusiasm. Let's go to Chris and west cald

4440
03:49:32,720 --> 03:49:39,560
Speaker 1: Well next, Natalie, Chris, what's up, hey boy? He's still talking? Hey?

4441
03:49:39,680 --> 03:49:42,240
Speaker 1: Do you guys? At what point does Steve Tish start

4442
03:49:42,280 --> 03:49:43,760
Speaker 1: to put his foot down with some of this stuff?

4443
03:49:43,800 --> 03:49:47,720
Speaker 1: Because she is like a really mismanaged kind of bungle thing,

4444
03:49:47,920 --> 03:49:50,040
Speaker 1: Like how would you feel if you're Seve some ticket

4445
03:49:50,080 --> 03:49:54,680
Speaker 1: holder right now, knowing the you know, just what lack

4446
03:49:54,720 --> 03:49:57,640
Speaker 1: of a plan anything they're doing at all? Like Chris,

4447
03:49:57,800 --> 03:50:00,000
Speaker 1: I will happily, I will happily answer your questions about

4448
03:50:00,040 --> 03:50:03,240
Speaker 1: what the plan is. What are your questions? Well, okay,

4449
03:50:03,640 --> 03:50:06,800
Speaker 1: we signed O'Dell and then we trade him. You absorb

4450
03:50:06,880 --> 03:50:10,240
Speaker 1: a fifteen million dollar cap loss. You have land and

4451
03:50:10,280 --> 03:50:13,120
Speaker 1: Colin No, but you realize you've got more in return

4452
03:50:13,280 --> 03:50:17,440
Speaker 1: for him because you paid the signing bonus, right right,

4453
03:50:17,480 --> 03:50:20,280
Speaker 1: But you just burned fifteen million dollars in money and

4454
03:50:20,360 --> 03:50:22,440
Speaker 1: you have no asset in terms of a player you have.

4455
03:50:22,840 --> 03:50:24,560
Speaker 1: What do you mean you got? You got? You got

4456
03:50:24,640 --> 03:50:27,840
Speaker 1: your Bill Peppers a seventeen. What do you mean he's

4457
03:50:27,840 --> 03:50:32,480
Speaker 1: a tweener, he's a safety Well, he's fishing foul, you

4458
03:50:32,520 --> 03:50:34,480
Speaker 1: can't cover people. But he's not really you know, he's

4459
03:50:34,480 --> 03:50:38,000
Speaker 1: more of a you know, well he well he was

4460
03:50:38,120 --> 03:50:40,360
Speaker 1: coming out of college. He's developed into a much better

4461
03:50:40,440 --> 03:50:43,080
Speaker 1: player than that. He said one year. I mean he

4462
03:50:43,160 --> 03:50:45,840
Speaker 1: has said two years all right to you? I mean,

4463
03:50:46,200 --> 03:50:49,600
Speaker 1: what do you say he's been a success to this

4464
03:50:49,680 --> 03:50:52,280
Speaker 1: point or would you call him disappointment in m I

4465
03:50:52,320 --> 03:50:54,440
Speaker 1: would say, based on the second year, he's a success.

4466
03:50:55,160 --> 03:50:57,680
Speaker 1: And besides, if you know anything about the NFL, you

4467
03:50:57,760 --> 03:50:59,480
Speaker 1: know the third year is the breakout year when you

4468
03:50:59,560 --> 03:51:02,240
Speaker 1: really degrade at guy's potential. Chris, I'll be honest. I

4469
03:51:02,280 --> 03:51:04,880
Speaker 1: sat down and I watched almost every snap Jabrol Peppers

4470
03:51:04,920 --> 03:51:08,240
Speaker 1: took last year. He's already a better cover player than

4471
03:51:08,320 --> 03:51:11,480
Speaker 1: Landon Collins. I don't disagree with that, you know, but

4472
03:51:11,760 --> 03:51:13,600
Speaker 1: in terms of so hold on a second. If he's

4473
03:51:13,600 --> 03:51:17,880
Speaker 1: a better cover player than Collins, no, but no, but Chris,

4474
03:51:17,920 --> 03:51:21,000
Speaker 1: if you compare the Beckham trade to other trades for

4475
03:51:21,120 --> 03:51:23,720
Speaker 1: players of that level that aren't a quarterback, the it

4476
03:51:23,840 --> 03:51:27,760
Speaker 1: matches up. And besides, what you're also missing is production.

4477
03:51:28,240 --> 03:51:31,920
Speaker 1: Is production per dollar the PPD that John talks about.

4478
03:51:32,280 --> 03:51:36,680
Speaker 1: Landing Collins, okay, is making double digit year, a million

4479
03:51:36,760 --> 03:51:40,960
Speaker 1: dollar year per permier year money in Washington, and Jabrill

4480
03:51:41,040 --> 03:51:44,280
Speaker 1: Peppers is making Ris rookie contract. Okay, Chris, come on,

4481
03:51:44,760 --> 03:51:46,160
Speaker 1: because I don't want to get into the weeds with

4482
03:51:46,240 --> 03:51:49,520
Speaker 1: you on the individual decision, But what's what's your overall

4483
03:51:49,640 --> 03:51:52,480
Speaker 1: question about the plan? What what's the lack of a plan.

4484
03:51:52,800 --> 03:51:54,920
Speaker 1: That's that's what he's being the lack of a plan?

4485
03:51:55,000 --> 03:51:57,760
Speaker 1: You know, you know, ey how much money he's gonna

4486
03:51:57,760 --> 03:52:00,240
Speaker 1: be tied up in quarterback? Now? Um? You know due

4487
03:52:00,280 --> 03:52:02,200
Speaker 1: to he only is one year left on his deal,

4488
03:52:02,280 --> 03:52:04,400
Speaker 1: by the way, and it's a moderately priced deal. I

4489
03:52:04,440 --> 03:52:08,080
Speaker 1: believe he's fourteen ties paid quarterback in the league. Moderately priced.

4490
03:52:08,880 --> 03:52:10,400
Speaker 1: All right? Why is he like here? Then? Though? Like

4491
03:52:12,240 --> 03:52:13,840
Speaker 1: my other issue in terms of lack of a plan,

4492
03:52:13,920 --> 03:52:16,080
Speaker 1: I love se Quon, of course we all do. But

4493
03:52:16,640 --> 03:52:18,920
Speaker 1: if you're taking a quarterback, you know, how do you

4494
03:52:19,160 --> 03:52:21,800
Speaker 1: effectively say I like Daniel Jones more than I like

4495
03:52:22,560 --> 03:52:26,000
Speaker 1: Sam Donald? And how do you not in the same

4496
03:52:26,080 --> 03:52:29,040
Speaker 1: draft that are to come in the future. Well you

4497
03:52:29,040 --> 03:52:30,840
Speaker 1: don't know. But here's the thing, Chris, if if if

4498
03:52:30,840 --> 03:52:33,560
Speaker 1: the se Kuon Barkley level player was in this draft,

4499
03:52:34,080 --> 03:52:36,840
Speaker 1: I think they take him over Daniel Jones. How do

4500
03:52:36,920 --> 03:52:38,880
Speaker 1: you know if Quintin Williams wasn't sitting there at Sex,

4501
03:52:39,160 --> 03:52:42,040
Speaker 1: they would have taken him over Daniel Jones. My issue

4502
03:52:42,080 --> 03:52:44,840
Speaker 1: is this, you effectively committed to ELI last year in

4503
03:52:44,960 --> 03:52:46,920
Speaker 1: taking se Quon, and I had I had no problem

4504
03:52:46,960 --> 03:52:49,040
Speaker 1: with that, and I wish they were staying committed to

4505
03:52:49,120 --> 03:52:51,800
Speaker 1: ELI this year. They are he had a good year

4506
03:52:51,880 --> 03:52:54,480
Speaker 1: last year. By the way, they're they're not saying committed

4507
03:52:54,520 --> 03:52:56,560
Speaker 1: to him Becau because they took a quarterback with the

4508
03:52:56,600 --> 03:52:58,960
Speaker 1: sixth overall. Thick. I don't, I don't. I don't think

4509
03:52:59,000 --> 03:53:01,160
Speaker 1: you really know too more about what you're talking about,

4510
03:53:01,400 --> 03:53:04,000
Speaker 1: to be quite frank with you, because Dave Gettlman just

4511
03:53:04,080 --> 03:53:06,880
Speaker 1: told everybody, as did Pat Shermour, that Eli Manning is

4512
03:53:06,920 --> 03:53:10,040
Speaker 1: this year's starter, that's committed. Dave Pedlman also told us

4513
03:53:10,040 --> 03:53:12,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna take the best player on the board, and

4514
03:53:12,240 --> 03:53:15,320
Speaker 1: in their in their mind, he was right. You might

4515
03:53:15,400 --> 03:53:17,200
Speaker 1: disagree with it, but in their mind that they thought

4516
03:53:17,240 --> 03:53:20,680
Speaker 1: he equated. I mean, well, then it's just full hearty management.

4517
03:53:20,720 --> 03:53:22,480
Speaker 1: Then if he's saying that was the best player on

4518
03:53:22,520 --> 03:53:25,800
Speaker 1: the board, we gotta move on now. Listen, we've heard

4519
03:53:25,960 --> 03:53:32,160
Speaker 1: him finish. Allan, Allan and um and Jones were on

4520
03:53:32,240 --> 03:53:36,040
Speaker 1: the same line, you know, And you know, I don't

4521
03:53:36,040 --> 03:53:38,400
Speaker 1: know if it's been confirmed by any any of you

4522
03:53:38,440 --> 03:53:40,720
Speaker 1: guys with your sources. You know, I heard we're not

4523
03:53:40,800 --> 03:53:43,280
Speaker 1: allowed in the room. We can't see the board. I know.

4524
03:53:43,400 --> 03:53:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm just asking if you know if you've heard me

4525
03:53:45,200 --> 03:53:48,560
Speaker 1: your sources them, But apparently they the board is under

4526
03:53:48,600 --> 03:53:52,280
Speaker 1: lock and King is one and one a. Well at

4527
03:53:53,200 --> 03:53:55,640
Speaker 1: that pick, at that pick, you don't know who was

4528
03:53:55,640 --> 03:53:57,080
Speaker 1: ahead of them on the board. Of the guys that

4529
03:53:57,160 --> 03:54:00,440
Speaker 1: were remaining, those two guys are on the same level.

4530
03:54:00,480 --> 03:54:05,600
Speaker 1: According to Dave Gentleman, who's that Allan and Allan and Jones.

4531
03:54:05,920 --> 03:54:09,680
Speaker 1: That's correct, But I mean there's other reports that they had,

4532
03:54:10,360 --> 03:54:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, Jones and Locks, and these reports were by

4533
03:54:13,880 --> 03:54:16,280
Speaker 1: guys who were in the room and saw the board

4534
03:54:16,320 --> 03:54:19,680
Speaker 1: that's under locking King. I'm not saying, I mean, I'm

4535
03:54:19,680 --> 03:54:22,920
Speaker 1: not gonna we're not gonna comment on hypothetical reports by

4536
03:54:23,040 --> 03:54:26,160
Speaker 1: people who didn't see the board. And you have a

4537
03:54:26,200 --> 03:54:31,080
Speaker 1: great night, by I would be very surprised if Drew

4538
03:54:31,160 --> 03:54:33,720
Speaker 1: Lock was ranked that closely to Daniel Jones. So falls

4539
03:54:33,760 --> 03:54:37,320
Speaker 1: guy just just went Trey Pipkins, Well, that was my guy.

4540
03:54:37,480 --> 03:54:40,200
Speaker 1: A caller called up about him. That's right. Also a

4541
03:54:40,280 --> 03:54:43,960
Speaker 1: great name, by the way, Trey Pipkins. That's a good name,

4542
03:54:44,960 --> 03:54:47,280
Speaker 1: by the way. And I thought it was surprising because

4543
03:54:47,360 --> 03:54:49,640
Speaker 1: Chauncey Gardner Johnson a safety stole on the board, which

4544
03:54:49,680 --> 03:54:52,400
Speaker 1: is a need for Dallas. They go a center guard

4545
03:54:52,480 --> 03:54:56,320
Speaker 1: and Connor McGovern you wonder if are they concerned about

4546
03:54:56,320 --> 03:54:58,960
Speaker 1: Travis Fredger coming back. There's all the reports that the

4547
03:54:59,080 --> 03:55:04,800
Speaker 1: hadn't them positive or they may be thinking about moving Uh.

4548
03:55:05,000 --> 03:55:08,440
Speaker 1: They drafted um who's the versatile offensive one, and they

4549
03:55:08,520 --> 03:55:10,320
Speaker 1: draft last year they put him a guard, but he

4550
03:55:10,360 --> 03:55:13,800
Speaker 1: came out of the tackle. Connor, Connor Williams Texas are

4551
03:55:13,880 --> 03:55:16,200
Speaker 1: they may be considering moving him outside? But then you've

4552
03:55:16,240 --> 03:55:19,880
Speaker 1: come out there. That's interesting, very interesting. Jets on the

4553
03:55:19,920 --> 03:55:21,720
Speaker 1: board of twenty nine. Yes they are. Who at the

4554
03:55:21,760 --> 03:55:26,080
Speaker 1: Chargers take Trey Pipkins trips. Okay, Connor mcgovernor of Penn State.

4555
03:55:26,120 --> 03:55:29,080
Speaker 1: You mentioned the Cowboys, So Jets pick his in it

4556
03:55:29,200 --> 03:55:34,280
Speaker 1: says Ravens on the clock, Bucks next Giants after that, correct,

4557
03:55:34,840 --> 03:55:37,280
Speaker 1: let's do this. Let's go to Paul in the Bronx.

4558
03:55:37,600 --> 03:55:46,360
Speaker 1: He's on next. Hey, Paul, he great offensive tackles. What

4559
03:55:46,440 --> 03:55:50,560
Speaker 1: do you guys think about Zimz? The defen mentioned him

4560
03:55:50,560 --> 03:55:54,400
Speaker 1: before Paul. I was very excited about O'Shane Zimmenez. When

4561
03:55:54,520 --> 03:55:58,000
Speaker 1: I went to Mobile for the senior boy, I watched

4562
03:55:58,040 --> 03:56:02,480
Speaker 1: this tape before I went, and he dominated lower level competition.

4563
03:56:02,560 --> 03:56:04,840
Speaker 1: It was like a college kid playing basketball with a

4564
03:56:04,880 --> 03:56:06,960
Speaker 1: bunch of junior high kids. He was running around them.

4565
03:56:07,240 --> 03:56:09,200
Speaker 1: He had this poor kid from the Citadel trying to

4566
03:56:09,280 --> 03:56:11,400
Speaker 1: block him. He basically put him in a carousel and

4567
03:56:11,440 --> 03:56:13,600
Speaker 1: spun him around. But then when he got to the

4568
03:56:13,680 --> 03:56:15,960
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, he couldn't do anything. And when I say

4569
03:56:16,000 --> 03:56:18,160
Speaker 1: he was silent at the Senior Bowl, I mean he

4570
03:56:18,400 --> 03:56:20,520
Speaker 1: was silent at the Senior Bowl. He didn't do a

4571
03:56:20,680 --> 03:56:26,160
Speaker 1: darn thing. But he's mobile, he's fast, he's got tools,

4572
03:56:26,680 --> 03:56:28,520
Speaker 1: but he's got to clean up his technique and he

4573
03:56:28,600 --> 03:56:30,960
Speaker 1: has to get stronger. Right now, he's not strong enough

4574
03:56:31,040 --> 03:56:33,480
Speaker 1: to be a consistent edge rusher in my opinion. So

4575
03:56:33,960 --> 03:56:36,000
Speaker 1: I think he's a good long term project. But he's

4576
03:56:36,000 --> 03:56:38,120
Speaker 1: not a guy you're gonna slide in right away where

4577
03:56:38,160 --> 03:56:41,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a really good starter. Coverage issues because

4578
03:56:41,800 --> 03:56:43,960
Speaker 1: you just don't know he's a pass rusher. He's strictly

4579
03:56:44,040 --> 03:56:46,360
Speaker 1: gonna be going straight ahead off the edge. And the

4580
03:56:46,440 --> 03:56:48,480
Speaker 1: other thing I actually wrote down was was some trouble

4581
03:56:48,520 --> 03:56:52,120
Speaker 1: shedding blocks because of his strength. But but you know

4582
03:56:52,200 --> 03:56:54,640
Speaker 1: what you get. You get what you get at the

4583
03:56:54,680 --> 03:56:57,200
Speaker 1: bottom of the third round. If you need a pass rusher,

4584
03:56:57,400 --> 03:57:00,160
Speaker 1: at least he's got something to work with. I think

4585
03:57:00,240 --> 03:57:03,360
Speaker 1: Max Crobby and Christian Miller are both much better selections

4586
03:57:03,400 --> 03:57:06,080
Speaker 1: at this point than uh Zimmonez in my opinion. Yeah,

4587
03:57:06,320 --> 03:57:08,200
Speaker 1: and I hope you have a family plays saying how

4588
03:57:08,320 --> 03:57:11,280
Speaker 1: they really missed Miller during the Clemson game, how he

4589
03:57:11,360 --> 03:57:14,880
Speaker 1: made a big difference not being there. Yeah. Absolutely, He's

4590
03:57:14,880 --> 03:57:16,560
Speaker 1: a guy that didn't play a ton of snaps with

4591
03:57:16,600 --> 03:57:18,120
Speaker 1: them this year. He was hurt from time to time,

4592
03:57:18,160 --> 03:57:20,480
Speaker 1: but he is a very very good player. Christian Miller

4593
03:57:20,560 --> 03:57:24,360
Speaker 1: is there, man, He's still there. And what about what

4594
03:57:24,480 --> 03:57:28,400
Speaker 1: about the tackle from MS Thomas Edwards him? Paul likes him.

4595
03:57:28,400 --> 03:57:31,600
Speaker 1: I'll let Paul talk about Yeah, Edwards Edwards. For me,

4596
03:57:31,760 --> 03:57:34,280
Speaker 1: he kind of gets to be on that borderline, to

4597
03:57:34,400 --> 03:57:37,040
Speaker 1: be perfectly honest with you. I thought of him more

4598
03:57:37,040 --> 03:57:40,320
Speaker 1: as a as a fourth rounder. Um. My notes on

4599
03:57:40,520 --> 03:57:46,320
Speaker 1: him were David Edwards. I said, uh, former bulped up

4600
03:57:46,720 --> 03:57:49,200
Speaker 1: tight end. I thought he would be a better at

4601
03:57:49,360 --> 03:57:52,160
Speaker 1: right tackle than he would have left. He plays high,

4602
03:57:52,760 --> 03:57:55,040
Speaker 1: he does extend his arms a little bit too much.

4603
03:57:55,080 --> 03:57:58,360
Speaker 1: He gets caught off balance. I liked his power. Uh,

4604
03:57:58,400 --> 03:58:02,160
Speaker 1: he took good angles, he did finish his blocks. Uh,

4605
03:58:02,280 --> 03:58:03,840
Speaker 1: and I thought he had he was pretty good with

4606
03:58:04,000 --> 03:58:06,960
Speaker 1: with the hand fighting. So yeah, I mean, I I

4607
03:58:07,120 --> 03:58:10,720
Speaker 1: think he's got a shot to compete. Um Um, I

4608
03:58:10,840 --> 03:58:14,880
Speaker 1: think I think Prince for me is probably a better

4609
03:58:15,000 --> 03:58:17,920
Speaker 1: pick because he's much stronger in the run game and

4610
03:58:18,000 --> 03:58:21,680
Speaker 1: I and I just think he's a little more polished. Okay,

4611
03:58:22,320 --> 03:58:27,320
Speaker 1: I got one nast question too, um challenges growing on me.

4612
03:58:27,320 --> 03:58:30,080
Speaker 1: He's a quarterback because I'm a team guy, you know. Oially,

4613
03:58:30,120 --> 03:58:32,280
Speaker 1: I really wanted Josh Allen, so that kind of hurt.

4614
03:58:32,360 --> 03:58:34,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, you gotta go with the team, you know,

4615
03:58:38,000 --> 03:58:40,360
Speaker 1: or as a as a consultant or anything too. I mean,

4616
03:58:40,680 --> 03:58:42,360
Speaker 1: Day might have talked to him, but he doesn't have

4617
03:58:42,440 --> 03:58:45,720
Speaker 1: any like polish, no title, no title. But they're great

4618
03:58:45,840 --> 03:58:49,360
Speaker 1: friends obviously, as you know. So I mean, I'm sure

4619
03:58:49,440 --> 03:58:54,560
Speaker 1: those phone conversations are happening all the time. Yeah. Alright, guys,

4620
03:58:54,600 --> 03:58:58,960
Speaker 1: a great job tackle here. Thank you so much. Have

4621
03:58:59,080 --> 03:59:01,120
Speaker 1: a good evening. Little al Right, we have two picks

4622
03:59:01,120 --> 03:59:03,080
Speaker 1: away right now. The phones are empty, so let's leave

4623
03:59:03,120 --> 03:59:05,920
Speaker 1: in there, Natalie. Let's get to our pick. We'll analyze it,

4624
03:59:06,320 --> 03:59:07,720
Speaker 1: and we're so closely down the round we need to

4625
03:59:07,720 --> 03:59:09,920
Speaker 1: get out there for the press conferences. So we'll analyze

4626
03:59:09,960 --> 03:59:11,840
Speaker 1: the pick and then we'll say goodbye. That's not I'll

4627
03:59:11,840 --> 03:59:15,920
Speaker 1: be our last caller. Usc tackle has gone. Now all

4628
03:59:15,960 --> 03:59:18,720
Speaker 1: the Jets. Why the dude, I'll tell you what he's

4629
03:59:18,760 --> 03:59:21,360
Speaker 1: got baggage? Well, they have two guys with baggage. Now

4630
03:59:21,760 --> 03:59:24,520
Speaker 1: they picked polite too, Yes they did. That's double baggage,

4631
03:59:24,880 --> 03:59:28,360
Speaker 1: yes it is. But the talented players they're paying an

4632
03:59:28,400 --> 03:59:33,000
Speaker 1: extra fifty bucks up there around trip. I know it's late.

4633
03:59:33,440 --> 03:59:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just it was just sitting there. Well,

4634
03:59:36,800 --> 03:59:38,920
Speaker 1: there's better than one of their bags getting confiscated for

4635
03:59:39,000 --> 03:59:48,760
Speaker 1: something to go there. Uh, guess what the Baltimore Ravens

4636
03:59:48,840 --> 03:59:51,880
Speaker 1: at number thirty. The pick is in the Buccaneers around

4637
03:59:51,920 --> 03:59:55,040
Speaker 1: the clock and the Giants are coming up on deck.

4638
03:59:56,280 --> 03:59:59,000
Speaker 1: They are, uh the Ravens so far if I can

4639
03:59:59,040 --> 04:00:01,120
Speaker 1: find all their picks, they're didn't remember we talked about

4640
04:00:01,120 --> 04:00:02,520
Speaker 1: all the trades that we're gonna happen in the second

4641
04:00:02,560 --> 04:00:05,040
Speaker 1: and third rounds. A lot of trades have happened in

4642
04:00:05,040 --> 04:00:07,240
Speaker 1: the second and third round. This has been chicken scratch.

4643
04:00:08,520 --> 04:00:10,440
Speaker 1: The red on this sheet, I'm not sure if you

4644
04:00:10,480 --> 04:00:15,320
Speaker 1: can see it indicates trades. Okay, that's round three. You

4645
04:00:15,360 --> 04:00:17,640
Speaker 1: want to see crazy red. Look at this round two.

4646
04:00:21,600 --> 04:00:28,080
Speaker 1: That's all the red. Okay, that's trades. It's been bonkers bonkers,

4647
04:00:28,840 --> 04:00:30,880
Speaker 1: by the way, the bet thing with with without Carl

4648
04:00:31,040 --> 04:00:33,160
Speaker 1: without a second round pick. Karl Banks was going to

4649
04:00:33,200 --> 04:00:37,880
Speaker 1: announce the second round pick. Oh, that's right, and they

4650
04:00:38,120 --> 04:00:40,280
Speaker 1: I guess they didn't give him the option of doing

4651
04:00:40,320 --> 04:00:42,240
Speaker 1: the third round. I think they probably have a fan

4652
04:00:42,320 --> 04:00:44,760
Speaker 1: doing it, like like like the other chicks maybe think

4653
04:00:44,920 --> 04:00:47,880
Speaker 1: it isn't isn't Harry Carson is supposed to be doing

4654
04:00:47,880 --> 04:00:50,800
Speaker 1: the third pick. I'm not sure by somebody. I forget

4655
04:00:50,800 --> 04:00:54,400
Speaker 1: who Why receiver from Notre Dame goes to Baltimore at

4656
04:00:54,440 --> 04:00:57,080
Speaker 1: pick You would have told me he would went before

4657
04:00:57,240 --> 04:00:59,120
Speaker 1: Kim Butler. I would have told you you a liar.

4658
04:00:59,360 --> 04:01:01,280
Speaker 1: I would have totally agreed with you on that one.

4659
04:01:01,480 --> 04:01:03,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a great combine guy, Boykin, but he

4660
04:01:03,920 --> 04:01:07,680
Speaker 1: did not play to his numbers at the combine. Wow,

4661
04:01:08,880 --> 04:01:13,680
Speaker 1: all right, Buccaneers, Oh boy? Pick us in? Alright? Boy

4662
04:01:13,960 --> 04:01:16,600
Speaker 1: was only a one year starter to wow, wow, pick

4663
04:01:16,680 --> 04:01:18,160
Speaker 1: us in already. And you know, Dave Gentleman, he's not

4664
04:01:18,160 --> 04:01:22,640
Speaker 1: gonna hesitate that pretty quickly. So, Natalie, the Finnish line

4665
04:01:23,200 --> 04:01:25,720
Speaker 1: is within reach. We're almost there. And then we gotta

4666
04:01:25,800 --> 04:01:28,560
Speaker 1: go listen to press conferences were and then we're back

4667
04:01:28,560 --> 04:01:30,720
Speaker 1: again tomorrow noon, folks, make sure you check that out.

4668
04:01:30,760 --> 04:01:33,160
Speaker 1: We'll be back with coverage of rounds five and six

4669
04:01:33,240 --> 04:01:38,600
Speaker 1: and twelve tomorrow on Big Blue Kick Off. Marathon continues

4670
04:01:38,680 --> 04:01:41,280
Speaker 1: it does. I'm trying to find the Miles Boykin's numbers

4671
04:01:41,320 --> 04:01:43,200
Speaker 1: for us right where where are you going here? John?

4672
04:01:43,280 --> 04:01:46,040
Speaker 1: Let's just yeah, absolutely, Why don't you come about? Are

4673
04:01:46,080 --> 04:01:49,640
Speaker 1: you going? You're going Jackson? You're going Prince, No print,

4674
04:01:49,680 --> 04:01:52,960
Speaker 1: You're going produced. Nope, you're gonna go Christian Miller. I

4675
04:01:53,080 --> 04:01:56,840
Speaker 1: want Max Crosby or you know what. And I would

4676
04:01:56,880 --> 04:02:00,000
Speaker 1: pick Miller over Crosby. I would pick Miller over Crosby too,

4677
04:02:00,720 --> 04:02:04,960
Speaker 1: And and I would pick them both over Anthony Nelson. Yes,

4678
04:02:05,080 --> 04:02:08,040
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, I would consider Chauncey Gardner Johnson. I

4679
04:02:08,080 --> 04:02:09,680
Speaker 1: know safety is not in need, Paul. They have ant

4680
04:02:09,760 --> 04:02:12,840
Speaker 1: wanthe back? Butler King, Butler, would you do that? He's

4681
04:02:12,880 --> 04:02:14,240
Speaker 1: in the mix for me too. I'd be okay with

4682
04:02:14,320 --> 04:02:16,400
Speaker 1: that if I had to make a prediction. So here's

4683
04:02:16,440 --> 04:02:22,440
Speaker 1: the thing, I don't know. After what happened with with

4684
04:02:22,600 --> 04:02:25,040
Speaker 1: with Jones at six, I'm out of the damn prediction business.

4685
04:02:25,080 --> 04:02:29,360
Speaker 1: But I mean, by the way giants are out. We were.

4686
04:02:29,480 --> 04:02:30,760
Speaker 1: We were, We'll tell you what. We were all over

4687
04:02:30,840 --> 04:02:32,760
Speaker 1: the cornerback though at the top of the second and

4688
04:02:32,840 --> 04:02:35,320
Speaker 1: we we didn't mention Dexter Lawrence as a possibility. It's

4689
04:02:35,880 --> 04:02:37,480
Speaker 1: so we we were. We were in the neighborhood with

4690
04:02:37,560 --> 04:02:40,800
Speaker 1: those by the way corner. Jamal Dean from all Brown

4691
04:02:40,880 --> 04:02:43,080
Speaker 1: to the bucket, Ye, I like him, and the Giants

4692
04:02:43,120 --> 04:02:46,760
Speaker 1: pick is already in shocking. Dave Gentleman decisive as always,

4693
04:02:47,160 --> 04:02:50,120
Speaker 1: he wanted to put the pick in earlier yesterday, wait

4694
04:02:50,200 --> 04:02:51,960
Speaker 1: for the five minutes to go with the clock, which

4695
04:02:51,960 --> 04:02:54,680
Speaker 1: the league required. Here we go. What do you think, Paul,

4696
04:02:54,680 --> 04:02:58,160
Speaker 1: give me in? What do you got? I'll go Christian Miller?

4697
04:02:58,720 --> 04:03:02,120
Speaker 1: Why not? All right? Be different, Uncle Max Crosby. Fine,

4698
04:03:02,240 --> 04:03:04,080
Speaker 1: he's more of a project. So maybe they're not gonna

4699
04:03:04,120 --> 04:03:06,600
Speaker 1: go there. Here's the thing, you know what, I changed

4700
04:03:06,640 --> 04:03:08,760
Speaker 1: my mind. Here's what I'm gonna say. And I just

4701
04:03:08,840 --> 04:03:10,560
Speaker 1: changed my mind to go to Miller because I wasn't

4702
04:03:10,600 --> 04:03:14,600
Speaker 1: going there about ten minutes. The guy who just screams, Dave,

4703
04:03:14,640 --> 04:03:18,680
Speaker 1: gettiman player to me is Anthony Nelson at Iowa you

4704
04:03:18,800 --> 04:03:21,400
Speaker 1: know the scheme fit, I don't. I don't worry about Yeah,

4705
04:03:21,400 --> 04:03:23,640
Speaker 1: I am, I'm worried about it. But isn't he the

4706
04:03:23,960 --> 04:03:27,400
Speaker 1: isn't he a Dave gettiman type of player? Understand, I understand?

4707
04:03:27,480 --> 04:03:29,680
Speaker 1: Pick his in I guess. Let's see now he does

4708
04:03:29,800 --> 04:03:32,160
Speaker 1: like you know what he does, like picking big wide receivers.

4709
04:03:32,600 --> 04:03:34,000
Speaker 1: If you think about him, go back to the days

4710
04:03:34,000 --> 04:03:36,280
Speaker 1: in Carolina picked Kelvin Benjamin. He picked the kid out

4711
04:03:36,320 --> 04:03:39,640
Speaker 1: of Michigan. Maybe I knew that to who was the

4712
04:03:39,680 --> 04:03:41,560
Speaker 1: second and the second guy was? Somebody was David Tyree

4713
04:03:42,120 --> 04:03:45,400
Speaker 1: the helmet catch with the third round selection for the

4714
04:03:45,480 --> 04:03:47,920
Speaker 1: Giant the appropro if he selected a wide receiver. Right,

4715
04:03:49,600 --> 04:03:51,960
Speaker 1: let's see, all right, John, see how long of a

4716
04:03:51,960 --> 04:03:54,160
Speaker 1: speech he makes here? All right? So I'm gonna go

4717
04:03:54,400 --> 04:03:56,280
Speaker 1: as a prediction, Anthony Nelson would to be my pick.

4718
04:03:56,320 --> 04:03:58,560
Speaker 1: But that's my prediction. You're gonna go Christian Miller. Yeah,

4719
04:03:58,560 --> 04:04:00,640
Speaker 1: I am, I'll stick with it. I'm moving off of

4720
04:04:01,280 --> 04:04:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm moving off of the offensive. He's reading the pick.

4721
04:04:03,960 --> 04:04:06,440
Speaker 1: The fans already have it because you're on delay and

4722
04:04:06,600 --> 04:04:08,520
Speaker 1: you're listening on the internet. So do you already know

4723
04:04:08,560 --> 04:04:11,840
Speaker 1: who the pick is? But we don't. Oh Shane's him egg.

4724
04:04:12,680 --> 04:04:15,680
Speaker 1: There we go one of the guys that we talked about,

4725
04:04:15,840 --> 04:04:19,560
Speaker 1: a very talented but raw passed. I backed off of him.

4726
04:04:19,640 --> 04:04:22,440
Speaker 1: I know you did. I was really hot for him.

4727
04:04:22,440 --> 04:04:26,480
Speaker 1: Twenty minutes ago, backed off six three to fifty ran

4728
04:04:26,560 --> 04:04:29,880
Speaker 1: a four seven eight forty yard dash. This is a

4729
04:04:29,960 --> 04:04:32,640
Speaker 1: guy that has a lot of ability and I would

4730
04:04:32,640 --> 04:04:34,680
Speaker 1: put him in the same category as Max Crosby. I

4731
04:04:34,680 --> 04:04:36,320
Speaker 1: think Crosby a little bit better of a prospect, but

4732
04:04:36,360 --> 04:04:39,520
Speaker 1: they're very similar in terms of coming from small schools.

4733
04:04:39,960 --> 04:04:43,480
Speaker 1: Six three to fifty. He's a stand up rusher, first

4734
04:04:43,520 --> 04:04:46,480
Speaker 1: team All Conference USA. He had eighteen and a half

4735
04:04:46,520 --> 04:04:50,760
Speaker 1: tackles for loss last year, twelve sacks, speed based rusher,

4736
04:04:51,120 --> 04:04:54,520
Speaker 1: and he needs to kind of get that technique and

4737
04:04:54,800 --> 04:04:58,080
Speaker 1: strength squared away as a rookie. He's not gonna set

4738
04:04:58,120 --> 04:04:59,920
Speaker 1: the edge of the young as a first year guy,

4739
04:05:00,080 --> 04:05:01,760
Speaker 1: but you want to bring him in as a situational

4740
04:05:01,800 --> 04:05:03,840
Speaker 1: pass rusher. He can maybe make a little noise for

4741
04:05:03,920 --> 04:05:07,000
Speaker 1: you defensive end. At old Dominion level of comping. Issue

4742
04:05:07,160 --> 04:05:09,040
Speaker 1: is going to be a three four outside guy. I

4743
04:05:09,200 --> 04:05:12,040
Speaker 1: love his get off at the snap. He is athletic,

4744
04:05:12,200 --> 04:05:14,600
Speaker 1: he does have speed, he does pursue the ball. Well,

4745
04:05:14,720 --> 04:05:16,840
Speaker 1: I do like that. He's not a good motor. Okay

4746
04:05:17,400 --> 04:05:20,920
Speaker 1: uh here again third round. If you're looking for a

4747
04:05:20,960 --> 04:05:23,560
Speaker 1: pass rusher, you have to get someone who projects a

4748
04:05:23,600 --> 04:05:25,520
Speaker 1: little bit. Of course, going to get a ready made guy.

4749
04:05:26,200 --> 04:05:28,520
Speaker 1: This is one of those guys. You you take a

4750
04:05:28,640 --> 04:05:30,760
Speaker 1: shot with a guy like this, it's like buying a well,

4751
04:05:30,800 --> 04:05:32,680
Speaker 1: I won't say it's buying a lottery ticket because he's

4752
04:05:32,720 --> 04:05:36,320
Speaker 1: he's got skills, he has shown pass rush capabilities. This

4753
04:05:36,640 --> 04:05:39,840
Speaker 1: this is a good fit in terms of value and

4754
04:05:39,920 --> 04:05:41,720
Speaker 1: need for the giant. I'm gonna read my notes. I

4755
04:05:41,800 --> 04:05:44,000
Speaker 1: watched Let's Quickly get out of here. I watched three games.

4756
04:05:44,040 --> 04:05:47,560
Speaker 1: I watched vm I North Texas and votech dominant rusher

4757
04:05:47,640 --> 04:05:50,800
Speaker 1: and multiple moves. Um played on the right side and

4758
04:05:50,880 --> 04:05:52,880
Speaker 1: the left side, and he also floated behind the line

4759
04:05:52,880 --> 04:05:55,840
Speaker 1: of scrimmage in that kind of joker position. Good motor,

4760
04:05:56,160 --> 04:05:59,440
Speaker 1: inside pass rush move. Um does a lot of different things.

4761
04:05:59,840 --> 04:06:03,360
Speaker 1: You use his length, Um pan down and he floats.

4762
04:06:03,720 --> 04:06:06,800
Speaker 1: So he's a guy that could be an impact pass

4763
04:06:06,880 --> 04:06:08,920
Speaker 1: rusher down the road. He would have to again at

4764
04:06:08,960 --> 04:06:11,200
Speaker 1: the start. He's a situational player as a pass rusher,

4765
04:06:11,240 --> 04:06:14,040
Speaker 1: in passing situations. But he's a player with talent, and

4766
04:06:14,120 --> 04:06:16,320
Speaker 1: the Giants finally get an edge rusher, and I thought

4767
04:06:16,320 --> 04:06:18,160
Speaker 1: they'd go ahead rusher here, and now we'll see they

4768
04:06:18,160 --> 04:06:19,800
Speaker 1: could double up with that at the top round four,

4769
04:06:19,880 --> 04:06:22,320
Speaker 1: maybe go offensive tackle. When are we gonna find out?

4770
04:06:22,520 --> 04:06:24,960
Speaker 1: Tomorrow noon on giants dot com. Make sure you tune

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Speaker 1: in for our next live draft special of Big Blue

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Speaker 1: Kickoff Live twelve tomorrow. The Tino and I are back.

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Speaker 1: Natalie's bailing, I can't blame her. And then we'll go

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Speaker 1: through rounds four and five with you tomorrow. The Giants

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Speaker 1: have three selections. We'll get him all for you right

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Speaker 1: here on giants dot com. Or pulled the Tino. I'm

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Speaker 1: John Schmilk. We'll see tomorrow. Get some sleep, audios,