WEBVTT - Analyst Leger Douzable Evaluates the Green & White's Free Agency Acquisitions

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast. Eric Allen here inside

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<v Speaker 5>the studio, joined by Lejane Dudesable Dudes. Were about a

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<v Speaker 5>week into free agency. The Jets have been very active

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<v Speaker 5>on multiple fronts. Your overall thoughts thirty thousand foot field.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there's a thing when you look at

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the players that the Jets picked up

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<v Speaker 3>in free agency, the main theme being all of these

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<v Speaker 3>guys a running thirty years old, and then when you

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<v Speaker 3>look at a couple of these guys, they're coming on

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to say down years, but not as

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<v Speaker 3>productive as the twenty three years. So when you look

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<v Speaker 3>at Aaron Glenn and his past and developing players, they

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<v Speaker 3>looked at guys that have high upside, that are still

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<v Speaker 3>very young, that probably still have their best football in

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<v Speaker 3>front of him. So I think the Jets were very

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<v Speaker 3>strategic going into this free agency, making sure they targeted

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<v Speaker 3>certain players that were not over thirty years old, even

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<v Speaker 3>a guy like Derek Nadi. And I know we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to go into each players specifically, but this guy has

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<v Speaker 3>been a starter for majority of his career, didn't start

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<v Speaker 3>last year, but still can play at a high level

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<v Speaker 3>and it's still not thirty years old.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't want to use the word reclamation projects, but essentially

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<v Speaker 3>that's what ag and Darren Mooji did right. They went

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<v Speaker 3>and got some of these younger players that are coming

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<v Speaker 3>off years that weren't weren't their greatest years in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 3>but still a lot of upside to him.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think that speaks to the confidence that Aaron

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<v Speaker 5>not only has in himself but his staff that we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to be able to take some of these guys

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<v Speaker 5>who might have struggled most recently and we're going to

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<v Speaker 5>develop them in house. And then the other side of

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<v Speaker 5>the coin of that is, hey, if these guys don't

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<v Speaker 5>come along, a lot of these deals do is our team.

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<v Speaker 3>Frontly without a doubt, and I think they structured those

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<v Speaker 3>deals where they can get out of a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>these deals. A lot of them are one year deals,

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<v Speaker 3>but a couple of the deals they can get out

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<v Speaker 3>in one or two years.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it was smart by this staff.

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<v Speaker 3>And also, like you said, to speak to the confidence

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<v Speaker 3>of Aaron Glenn and his developmental skills. The thing is

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<v Speaker 3>when you're watching players and then you see it done

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<v Speaker 3>correctly on tape one time, that means they can do

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<v Speaker 3>it again.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's what Aaron Glenn is thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>That there's so much that goes into a player his

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<v Speaker 3>psyche going into a contract year, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>times players are so worried about playing their best football

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<v Speaker 3>that they play a little tight and that could have

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<v Speaker 3>been an issue. I mean, Andre Cisco, I know we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about him later, but that whole secondary struggle in

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<v Speaker 3>Jacksonville that could be not just on him, it could

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<v Speaker 3>be schematic wise what they were asking him to do.

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<v Speaker 3>So AG looks at the twenty three tape and says,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy was unbelieved. Let's get him on our team.

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<v Speaker 3>He's also a local kid, I believe from Long Island.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's gonna mean something for him to come back

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<v Speaker 3>to the Jets, and I believe I can get him

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<v Speaker 3>back to that player that he was in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 5>All Right, who are the Jets getting in Justin fields

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<v Speaker 5>Sky went four and two as a starter last year

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<v Speaker 5>in Pittsburgh. A lot of the media reports are the

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<v Speaker 5>Steelers wanted him back instead. He said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to the Jets again. He's coming off the

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<v Speaker 5>season where he started those first six games Russell was injured.

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<v Speaker 5>He ten touchdowns, ten total touchdowns, five on the ground,

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<v Speaker 5>five passing touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>He turned it over just twice and.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the biggest thing, him protecting the football because

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<v Speaker 3>that was the issue when he was a younger quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>And the crazy thing is, I say a younger quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>This guy literally just turned twenty five years old and

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<v Speaker 3>he's been in the league it seems like forever already.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a young guy with a lot of upside.

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<v Speaker 3>You talked about him taking the Steelers to a four

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<v Speaker 3>and two record in the beginning of last year. We

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<v Speaker 3>know how dynamic he is with his legs in the

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<v Speaker 3>open field, and what people don't talk about enough is

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<v Speaker 3>how physical he is. When he becomes a runner, he's

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<v Speaker 3>extremely hard to bring down. So you always hear the

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<v Speaker 3>terminology plus one in a run game. That's what Justin

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<v Speaker 3>Fields gives you. But don't get a toiche. And this

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<v Speaker 3>guy can throw the pill. Let's not forget. DJ Moore's

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<v Speaker 3>best career year was with Justin Fields, not all the

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<v Speaker 3>other quarterbacks he played with. It was with Justin Fields,

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<v Speaker 3>so he can definitely throw the ball down the field.

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<v Speaker 3>I think also with Derrick Mujie and also ag they

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<v Speaker 3>looked at this and said, he's got some synergy and

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<v Speaker 3>some continuity with our number one receiver, right because he

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<v Speaker 3>played with Garrett Wilson in college. He played with Germany

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<v Speaker 3>Record in college. And oh, by the way, we signed

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<v Speaker 3>his center and Josh Myers to bring him along as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's gonna have some familiar faces on this team

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<v Speaker 3>where he feels comfortable, knows he's going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>starter from day one, and we're praying and hoping that

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<v Speaker 3>we can continue to develop this guy and maybe there's

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<v Speaker 3>a potential for him to be the long term franchise

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback for the New York Jets. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>what Justin Fields was looking at and why he decided

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<v Speaker 3>to sign with the New York just because he knows

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<v Speaker 3>there's an opportunity if he shows right that he could

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<v Speaker 3>potentially be the quarterback of the future.

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<v Speaker 5>Six three eight to one hundred and twenty seven pounds,

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<v Speaker 5>he just turned twenty six years old, and he's coming

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<v Speaker 5>off a year in Pittsburgh where he set career highs

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of completion percentage and passer rating. What do

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<v Speaker 5>you think about his fit in the system now? Tanner

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<v Speaker 5>Engstrom has not called to play. We know that he's

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<v Speaker 5>a passing game coordinator with the Lions, but just looking

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<v Speaker 5>at the personnel, and I really liked the explosive element

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<v Speaker 5>potentially offensively when you got Fields taking snaps under center,

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<v Speaker 5>you got Breise Hall behind you, and then you got

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<v Speaker 5>Karrent Wilson is your number one receiver. Those guys all

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<v Speaker 5>can take a ball and go fifty plus to dolls.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>And it'll be interesting to see Tanner Einstring put it

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<v Speaker 3>handprint on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Offense and what will that exactly exactly look like.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know because to your point, Yay, he hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>called games right from the offensive quarters. Or offensive coordinator standpoint. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I did love the signing of Scott Turner to help

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<v Speaker 3>him out. He's a guy who's called a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>players as his time as an offensive coordinator and been

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<v Speaker 3>a coach on the offensive side. So I think those

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<v Speaker 3>two will come together to have an offense Taylor to

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<v Speaker 3>Justin Field's skill set. Could we see more rpo right

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<v Speaker 3>with Justin Fields because that's an element of his game

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<v Speaker 3>that separates him from a lot of other quarterbacks. And

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<v Speaker 3>also when you talk about the subsequent pieces on the

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<v Speaker 3>outside of Garrett Wilson, but then also in the backfield

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<v Speaker 3>of Bresaw, you have to talk about this young offensive line.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's not forget tennor ingstring. Where'd he come from the

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<v Speaker 3>Detroit Lions. What do they want to do there? Run

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<v Speaker 3>the football? You don't think he's gonna want to run

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<v Speaker 3>the football with this young offensive line the Jets have,

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<v Speaker 3>right when.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at the youth of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Offensive line from the Jets, besides it's John Simpson and

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<v Speaker 3>everybody else is essentially the starters on rookie deals. Now

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<v Speaker 3>there is a needed right tackle and that could potentially

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<v Speaker 3>happen in the draft or there's still some free agents

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<v Speaker 3>out there as well. But when you talk about a young,

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<v Speaker 3>hungry offensive line, right gelling together, they are going to

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<v Speaker 3>want to run the ball where Breese Hall to take

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<v Speaker 3>some pressure off Justin Fields. And let's not forget we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it earlier. EA, Justin Fields is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be part of the run game, right, He's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>plus one in the run game as well. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>excited to see what tenner Ingstring does with this offense

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<v Speaker 3>when he puts his handprint on it. What will be

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<v Speaker 3>the philosophy for this offensive and what will its identity be.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>This whole podcast could be on Justin Fields. But let's

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<v Speaker 5>stay here for a second. You played defensive line in

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<v Speaker 5>the National Football League for more than ten years. What

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<v Speaker 5>kind of pressure does a guy like Fields point on

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<v Speaker 5>the defense that front seven? Because you mentioned RPOs, the

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<v Speaker 5>zone reads, the runs and then also just making a

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<v Speaker 5>second play with his feet.

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<v Speaker 3>When things break down and there's nobody open, and you

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<v Speaker 3>could have the perfect defensive call. EA, with a guy

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<v Speaker 3>like Justin feels it doesn't matter because he can break

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<v Speaker 3>down the perfect play with his mobility. And I talked

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<v Speaker 3>about his strength like it's hard to bring him down

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<v Speaker 3>because you talked about a sixty three two hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seven pounds, Like that's a big running back in

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<v Speaker 3>the league, right, So, like that's tough to bring down

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<v Speaker 3>in the open field. And then when you have him

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<v Speaker 3>in the open space and he's able to break contain

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<v Speaker 3>when a defensive line doesn't have pass rush lane responsibility,

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<v Speaker 3>Now you're talking about him one on one with his

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<v Speaker 3>dynamic ability, with his mobility and speed on a linebacker,

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna win that ten out of ten times because

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<v Speaker 3>that's how dynamic he is with it legs.

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<v Speaker 2>So it puts so much stress on a.

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<v Speaker 3>Defensive line because you want to be aggressive when you

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<v Speaker 3>rush the passer, but you gotta be smart too, because

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<v Speaker 3>if you're too aggressive and you end up having a

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<v Speaker 3>big open a gap because both the tackles decided to

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<v Speaker 3>run on the rush on the outside of the guard

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<v Speaker 3>and now there's a gaping hole. Not only is it

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<v Speaker 3>a passing lane for him, but he could keep the

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<v Speaker 3>ball and run in that a gap and pick up

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<v Speaker 3>first downs. We saw that multiple times last year with

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<v Speaker 3>the Pittsburgh Shielders, more specifically on third down.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to think about this right.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a defensive minded coaching Aaron Glynn, and he

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<v Speaker 3>knows what the skill set that Justin Fields has. He

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<v Speaker 3>could just keep the offense on the field by scampering

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<v Speaker 3>and picking up some first downs with his legs. He

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<v Speaker 3>wants to be able to control the ball and play

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<v Speaker 3>good defense. And with a mobile quarterback like Justin Fields,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why it's so tough for defenses to scheme against.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a hell of an opportunity for Fields. Where

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<v Speaker 5>does he have to get better? When you watch the

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<v Speaker 5>film and say, okay, listen, he's shown glimpses. He's the

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<v Speaker 5>former number eleven overall picking the draft back in twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty one. He had a strength there a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>years ago with the Chicago Bears, where he became the

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<v Speaker 5>second player in NFL history to have one at least

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<v Speaker 5>one rush touchdout and one pass touchdown in five consecutive games.

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<v Speaker 5>The only other players done that is Kyler Murray in

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty. Where does he have to get Butterfields?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So you go back to last year when they're four

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<v Speaker 3>and two and Mike Tomlin makes a tough decision to

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<v Speaker 3>go with Russell Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>It was because the lack of the deep passing game.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we talked about EA, He's gotten better every single

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<v Speaker 3>year when it comes to completion percentage, but the accuracy

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<v Speaker 3>down the field when you want to try to get

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<v Speaker 3>some of those explosive plays to keep that safety out

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<v Speaker 3>out of the box so you can run the ball effectively,

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<v Speaker 3>that's where he has to take his game to the

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<v Speaker 3>next level. I saw him grow in progressions right going

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<v Speaker 3>through his progressions last year. He got extremely better than that,

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<v Speaker 3>better than he was his first couple of years in

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<v Speaker 3>the league because it used to be the first red

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't there was a tuck and run. But you saw

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<v Speaker 3>him last year get to his first, second and third

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<v Speaker 3>read and get the ball out of his hands. Now

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<v Speaker 3>he has to put it all together and be able

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<v Speaker 3>to throw the ball down the field and complete some

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<v Speaker 3>of those big passes down the field. Again, tanner Anstrom

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<v Speaker 3>comes from the Troy Lions. They're gonna want to run

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<v Speaker 3>the football, but the way to get that extra safety

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<v Speaker 3>out of the box, you gott to threaten the ball

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<v Speaker 3>down the field and the team has.

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<v Speaker 2>The respect that you can make that throw down the field.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's where Justin Phields has to continue to grow

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<v Speaker 3>as a player from the quarterback position.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the accuracy on the downfield throwing.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm watching the emphasis in this attack on the play

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<v Speaker 5>action game is gonna help fields.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be monumental. Right, we talked about this young

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line. John Simpson is a guy that will rip

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<v Speaker 3>your face mask off as well. Now again, well is

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<v Speaker 3>to be determined who potentially is the right tackle. I

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<v Speaker 3>know me and u EA have been through some scenarios.

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<v Speaker 3>Could Josh Meyers slide into center, Could Joe Tipman move

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<v Speaker 3>to guard? Could Avt go back to right tackle. I

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<v Speaker 3>think all that is up to be determined, just depending

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<v Speaker 3>on what to just do for the rest of free agency,

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<v Speaker 3>because I know it seems like it's been a month,

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<v Speaker 3>but to your point, yea, it hasn't even been a

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<v Speaker 3>week of free agency yet, Like there's still a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of good players out there to play. And I know

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<v Speaker 3>people getting enamored with the opening day when the new

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<v Speaker 3>league year starts or the tampering period starts, because everybody's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, why isn't this team doing this? Why aren't they

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<v Speaker 2>doing that?

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<v Speaker 3>We're not even a weekend to free agency. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of waves and tiers of free agency. There's that

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<v Speaker 3>initial wave, then there's the second wave, then there's a

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<v Speaker 3>quick small wave right before the draft, and then after

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<v Speaker 3>the draft there's another wave for free agency where teams

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get to pick certain players that they wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>fill out the roster. That's that last wave before it's

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<v Speaker 3>training camp. So we're still a long way away from

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<v Speaker 3>determining what this team will look like, uh, because of

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<v Speaker 3>the personnel, and the Jets still have a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>pieces to add as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So you talked about the play action pass game.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be monumental, right, but you have to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to establish a run to have an effective

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<v Speaker 3>play action pass game, and I know that's something that

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<v Speaker 3>Tanner andstring is going to want to establish with the

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<v Speaker 3>New York Jets.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, let's jump around off Tyler Johnson, the receiver

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<v Speaker 5>who most recently played with the Rams. He signs a

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<v Speaker 5>free agency as does Stone Smart coming over from the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 5>So both those guys making the trip from the West

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<v Speaker 5>coast to the northeast.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell me about their potential fits?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Stone Smart, I love that pick.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if anybody follows me on Twitter, I

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<v Speaker 3>went to Twitter right away, it was like, that's an

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<v Speaker 3>amazing pick. A little bit surprised the Chargers didn't tender

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<v Speaker 3>him because he was a restricted free agent, a massive

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<v Speaker 3>human being, right, and he's able to go get the

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<v Speaker 3>ball in the red zone. He really came on strong

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the year when they had some

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<v Speaker 3>injuries to the tight end position. So again, was a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit surprised they didn't tender him. But I love

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<v Speaker 3>this pickup because I believe he can be a weapon

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<v Speaker 3>down the scene for justin fields and also be a

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<v Speaker 3>weapon in the red zone going up in high pointing

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<v Speaker 3>and going to get the football.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an athletic tight end.

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<v Speaker 3>Really loved that signing because it wasn't like it was

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<v Speaker 3>a as far as findingly, it wasn't a massive signing

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<v Speaker 3>for the Jets. But again, when you look at roster

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<v Speaker 3>construction and roster makeup, you need guys like Stone Smart

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<v Speaker 3>to have a good football team. And then Tyler Johnson

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<v Speaker 3>is a guy that's kind of been steady at he

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<v Speaker 3>was with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with the Rams, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's just weird when you look at his game, he

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<v Speaker 3>ate there's always.

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<v Speaker 2>Like one or two games.

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<v Speaker 3>He just explodes on the scene and he had that

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<v Speaker 3>last year with the Los Angeles Rams as well, So

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<v Speaker 3>he'll be a guy that's probably mixing it up for

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<v Speaker 3>that number three, four and five spot at the receiver position.

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<v Speaker 2>He will also give you some help on special teams

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 5>He was a standout receiver at Minnesota. You mentioned that

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<v Speaker 5>Tampa Bay drafted him. He got some time last year

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<v Speaker 5>with the Rams after the previous season. I think most

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<v Speaker 5>of the year he spent on their practice squad. But

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<v Speaker 5>you mentioned Swart and his ability to get down the field.

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<v Speaker 1>You're seeing an emphasis of speed here.

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<v Speaker 5>Of what Aaron Gladd and Darren Muji wants to do

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<v Speaker 5>here to put pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>On the defenses.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm not saying any of these guys are in

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<v Speaker 5>the category of Jameson Williams or Gibbs. But when you

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<v Speaker 5>think of Wilson and we talked about this before, and

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<v Speaker 5>you think about Greece Hall, those are guys who can

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<v Speaker 5>put a lot of stress on the defense and then

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<v Speaker 5>smart when you use them in packages. You have to

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<v Speaker 5>account for his vertical ability.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>And again I think his athletic ability and ability to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Down the seam.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Chargers realized, like, this guy can play

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<v Speaker 3>some ball, Like, let's start getting into him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was Will Disley that kind of got

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<v Speaker 3>banged up for them towards the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's when Stone Smart really stepped up for them.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, a very young player was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 3>a restricted free agent. They didn't tender him, so he

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<v Speaker 3>became a free agent. A little bit surprised the Chargers

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<v Speaker 3>didn't try to bring him back, and they may have,

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<v Speaker 3>but maybe he decided he just wanted a fresh start

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere else. So I like that pick up a lot again.

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<v Speaker 3>He came another young player that came on strong late

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<v Speaker 3>last year.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you make about the moves up front?

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<v Speaker 5>The Jets like their young centaer Joe Tipman A g

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<v Speaker 5>called him out Indianapolis, but you're bringing a guy Myers,

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<v Speaker 5>Josh Myers, who not only snapped the ball to justin

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<v Speaker 5>fields of Ohio State, he's got a lot of starting

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<v Speaker 5>experience the previous four seasons at the pivot for the

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<v Speaker 5>Green Bay Packers, and.

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<v Speaker 1>How about a corps four.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a guy who played one week with the Patriots

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<v Speaker 5>last year. We don't know the full story, but previously

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<v Speaker 5>he was a starter for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and I

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<v Speaker 5>got to think that he's looking at this as an

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<v Speaker 5>opportunity to either compete at the right tackle position or

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<v Speaker 5>at the very least.

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<v Speaker 1>Dudes, maybe he's a swing tack layer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I go back to what their Mouji and also

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<v Speaker 3>ag have kind of targeted when it comes to this

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<v Speaker 3>free agent class.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Oka four, We'll start with him.

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<v Speaker 3>You talked about it was a constant starter for the

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<v Speaker 3>Pittsburgh Steelers and honestly thought he had a chance to be,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the starter of day one in New England. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>again we don't know the story and why it didn't

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<v Speaker 3>work out there, but it goes back to the theme

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<v Speaker 3>of kind of like reclamation project, like a guy that

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<v Speaker 3>had a decent or pretty good twenty three season, but

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<v Speaker 3>not a good twenty four season.

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<v Speaker 2>And you talked about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Myers was essentially a four year starter for the

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<v Speaker 3>Green Bay Packers, but he's coming off a down year.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't one of his best years in protection as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And I talked about the psyche of going into free agency.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes players just play a little tight. You don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what they're doing schematically or what they're asking him to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Was he maybe banged up last year as well and

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to fight through some things because he was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a free agent.

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<v Speaker 2>You just never know that.

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<v Speaker 3>But for what the Jets signed him for, I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's a home run pick one because again you talked

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<v Speaker 3>about it, the continuity and synergy has with Justin Fields

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<v Speaker 3>having a stat for him at Ohio State, and when

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<v Speaker 3>you go back to his twenty three and twenty two tape,

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<v Speaker 3>it was really good, like he was being considered as

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<v Speaker 3>a top like five center in this league. So I

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<v Speaker 3>love it from the standpoint because, yes, Joe Tipman is amazing,

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<v Speaker 3>but you always need a consummate backup and then you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna want the best starting five out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. Again, would love to keep Joe Tipman at.

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<v Speaker 3>Center, but if Josh Mayas proved throughout training camp that

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<v Speaker 3>with him at center Tipman at guard, that we have

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<v Speaker 3>our best starting five, then you have to make that

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<v Speaker 3>move right at the end of the day, it's about

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<v Speaker 3>having the best starting five out there.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I think a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Times coaches more specifically trained or cross trained guys at

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<v Speaker 3>different positions just for that instance. If something like that happens,

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<v Speaker 3>say you got two really good centers, but you can't

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<v Speaker 3>play two centers at one time, you move one guy

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<v Speaker 3>to guard, and you have your best starting five out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's not also forget Tipman plays some guard his rookie year,

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<v Speaker 3>so that he has that versatility.

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<v Speaker 2>To do that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, again I would love to keep Tipman at center,

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<v Speaker 3>but you want to ultimately put your best starting five

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<v Speaker 3>out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The bottom line is the Jets.

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<v Speaker 5>You can expect them to continue to add to the

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<v Speaker 5>offensive line. Look at where Aaron Glenn just came from

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<v Speaker 5>to destroy life and it all started up front for them.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's flip into the defensive side of the wall.

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<v Speaker 5>How much credit did you give Mujie for getting a

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<v Speaker 5>Sherwood deal down before he hits the market, because we

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<v Speaker 5>were both in Indianapolis and everybody was talking about how

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<v Speaker 5>many suitors he was gonna have if he hit free agency.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think people understood it. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>saying that, you know this all last year. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>sure was gonna have a crazy market and people were

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<v Speaker 3>looking at me crazy, and I'm like, if you watch

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<v Speaker 3>the tape, this young man is an ascending player, like

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<v Speaker 3>Pro Bowl type ascending player. And you saw his trajectory

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<v Speaker 3>year in the year out like because he would start

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<v Speaker 3>at Sam Becker for the Jets.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's rare in today's NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>The teams don't come out in eleven personnel, which means

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna go Nickel, which means.

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<v Speaker 2>Your third linebacker is not gonna play.

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<v Speaker 3>But every time he kind of spots started for CJ,

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<v Speaker 3>he would just continue to make plays. And I remember

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<v Speaker 3>talking to Robert slind He was saying, Jamie and Sherwood

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the smartest players I've ever coached, right.

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<v Speaker 3>He said that as a rookie, So you knew that

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<v Speaker 3>the mental capacity was going to be there. He was

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<v Speaker 3>making that transition from safety to linebacker, so you knew

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<v Speaker 3>it was only a matter of time before he developed.

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<v Speaker 2>The more reps he got, and you saw.

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<v Speaker 3>The speed that he plays with I mean with him

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<v Speaker 3>at Quincy Wilson, they might be maybe the fastest tandement

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<v Speaker 3>linebacker in all the NFL because those guys get from.

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<v Speaker 2>East to west extremely fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Sherwood had ninety eight solo tackles, which is astronomical because

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't even.

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<v Speaker 2>Start in the beginning of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>So like for him to have that type of production,

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<v Speaker 3>there was going to be a great market.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when you're that young and you're an.

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<v Speaker 3>As sending player because you're only a one year starter,

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<v Speaker 3>NFL is all about projection.

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<v Speaker 2>EA, people are projecting it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to be even better right in the future

0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.480
<v Speaker 3>because he did only start one year. So I thought

0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:49.720
<v Speaker 3>that was a key piece that they absolutely had to

0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.720
<v Speaker 3>bring back. Shout out to Darren Moji to GM and

0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:54.840
<v Speaker 3>also AG forgetting that deal done.

0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.400
<v Speaker 5>They got both third quarterbacks done here in free agency

0:20:58.640 --> 0:20:59.920
<v Speaker 5>on both sides of the ball.

0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:01.400
<v Speaker 1>They targeted fields.

0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:05.520
<v Speaker 5>They got him even though Pittsburgh wanted him back, and

0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:09.800
<v Speaker 5>then they got Sherwood. They're Mike linebacker And shout out

0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:16.040
<v Speaker 5>to CJ. Moseley, just an unbelievable professional throughout the time here. Yeah,

0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:16.840
<v Speaker 5>the captain.

0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Just a person who was adored throughout the building.

0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:26.240
<v Speaker 5>And I'm not saying just inside that locker room, consummate professional.

0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.000
<v Speaker 5>He had three straight seasons of one hundred and fifty

0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:29.960
<v Speaker 5>plus tackles.

0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:31.560
<v Speaker 1>When he went down.

0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:37.840
<v Speaker 5>Though, Sherwood was ready, and Sherwood told me tous Moseley

0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:41.040
<v Speaker 5>met everything to him and that is the circle of

0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:42.679
<v Speaker 5>football life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you couldn't have a better vet to learn from,

0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:51.280
<v Speaker 3>right if you're Jamie and Sherwood than CJ. Mosley the captain.

0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I go back to twenty nineteen when we

0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:58.439
<v Speaker 3>signed him. EA, in that first half first Buffalo, he

0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:02.159
<v Speaker 3>was clearly the best player on the field. I hated

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:04.879
<v Speaker 3>that injuries derailed him that season because I think he

0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.040
<v Speaker 3>was going to have a very very special year. And

0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 3>then Covid happens the next year and we miss him

0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:13.120
<v Speaker 3>for the entire season. But then you talk about it, right,

0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.320
<v Speaker 3>twenty one, twenty two, and twenty three, three straight years

0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:21.480
<v Speaker 3>of one hundred and fifty tackles, constant pro bowler, the guy,

0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 3>even when he was banged up, was showing up and

0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.400
<v Speaker 3>laying it on the line. I mean there were there

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.480
<v Speaker 3>were games that probably most players would have shut it

0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.040
<v Speaker 3>down and CJ. Moseley went out there and later on

0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:33.800
<v Speaker 3>I vividly remember I think it was the twenty two

0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:37.359
<v Speaker 3>season that goal line almost that goal line stands with CJ.

0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Moseley smacked the running back from Denver and the whole

0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:45.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, Like what that did to you? Ignite

0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:50.399
<v Speaker 3>the defense? You know, that's that just encapsulates what CJ.

0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Moseley is.

0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Like, if there's a blade of grass to protect, he's

0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:56.359
<v Speaker 3>going out there to do it. Like that's his mindset

0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:59.760
<v Speaker 3>and his mentality. So can't thank him enough. We'll go

0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:01.760
<v Speaker 3>down as one of the great Jets. I just hate

0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 3>that a few injuries kind of derailed him from being

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:08.399
<v Speaker 3>probably one of the greatest Jets linebackers in Jets history.

0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Well said, dudes, Brandon Stevens.

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:13.879
<v Speaker 5>Do you view him now as CB two, as DJ

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:18.280
<v Speaker 5>Reid obviously exits and he ironically is going to Detroit?

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:23.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, the irony of that, right, But Brandon

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:27.199
<v Speaker 3>Stevens another guy. He's one of those guys like you

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:30.000
<v Speaker 3>know how he a coaches say, he's a guy that

0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 3>you want coming off the bus first, right, because he

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 3>just looks the part, right. I believe he's like six

0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 3>two six' three and he's well put together and can.

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 3>RUN i can, run, run and he's another. Player we

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 3>talked About Andre cisco a little, bit and we're going

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.640
<v Speaker 3>to talk about him. More Josh Myers okafoor another guy

0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:48.640
<v Speaker 3>that had a better twenty three season where he actually

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 3>showed some versatility to play safety and, corner and last

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:53.919
<v Speaker 3>year had some struggles more.

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Specifically in man.

0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:58.720
<v Speaker 3>Coverage so this goes back to conversations we were having

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:01.119
<v Speaker 3>before we came on the. Pod it'll be interesting to

0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:05.359
<v Speaker 3>see the philosophy Of Steve wolks's defense because him And

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Aaron glenn kind of different in some manners where they

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 3>both like the, pressure But aaron ag likes the pressure

0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:13.880
<v Speaker 3>and go, man Where Steve wilkes likes the pressure.

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 2>And goes zone dog and go zone, coverage.

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 3>Right so it'll be interesting to see how they messed

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:24.120
<v Speaker 3>their philosophies together and what this defense will truly look

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.680
<v Speaker 3>like Because Brandon stevens again and this could be a confidence.

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Thing and this is the thing at.

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Corner when you get beat a few, times you got

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:33.920
<v Speaker 3>to have like a mindset of a. Fish and they

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 3>say fishes forget things right, away but that can weigh

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 3>on you as a, corner, right AND i think at

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:41.919
<v Speaker 3>times it may have weighed on him last. YEAR i

0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 3>THINK ag feels like with the tape that we saw

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:46.680
<v Speaker 3>in twenty, THREE i can develop this guy and get

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:48.439
<v Speaker 3>him out of this funk and get him back to

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 3>playing with the confidence he was playing with at twenty,

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.920
<v Speaker 3>three because, again, yea he looks the, part he can,

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 3>run and again he was really good in twenty, three

0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 3>just had some struggles in twenty.

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 5>Four, Man i'm circ this coaching, staff especially at that

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 5>cornerback in the secondary, spot because you Got Chris earrison,

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 5>here you Got drake Bly in.

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Here these guys played the.

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 5>Game Aaron glenn a first round, pick he played fifteen

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 5>seasons in The National Football. League So i'm going to

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 5>be fascinated to watch the development of some of the

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 5>young players in defensive.

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Backfield And i'm.

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 3>So glad you brought that up because Even Steve wilkes

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:25.360
<v Speaker 3>by trade as a defensive back.

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Coach.

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.479
<v Speaker 3>Right SO i think when you talk about getting some

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:30.879
<v Speaker 3>of these guys that are young with high upside that

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.639
<v Speaker 3>maybe didn't have as productive twenty fours as twenty, threes,

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.199
<v Speaker 3>well we have guys like Dra bli who played in

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 3>The Super, bowl who's been A Pro. Bowler we HAVE

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 3>ag who was a pro bowler with The New York.

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 3>Jets we Have Steve, wilkes who was a defensive back

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 3>coach by. Trade we have the guys here to get

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 3>these guys back to playing at that high level that

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 3>they played in twenty. Three so, again when they targeted

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:56.880
<v Speaker 3>guys in free, AGENCY i think a lot of that

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 3>had to do with the coaching staff that was put

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 3>in place that they're confident that they can get these

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.240
<v Speaker 3>guys back to playing at the high levels they were playing.

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 5>At all, right we knew there were gonna be multiple

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 5>changes at the safety position because The jets enter free

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:13.919
<v Speaker 5>agency with four guys who were on expiring. Deals with

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 5>that being, said you Mentioned. Cisco he's a kid who

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:19.879
<v Speaker 5>was born In. Queens he grew up In Valley. Stream

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 5>he want The. SYRACUSE i think his family had season

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 5>tickets To jets, games so he's coming. HOME i like

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 5>his ballwking. Ability and that's one thing where you can

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 5>point to over the last few seasons for The, jets

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 5>they just haven't had enough. Takeaways here is a guy

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 5>who's athletic who's going to play that free safety position for.

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>You can you speak to maybe when he was at

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>his height in twenty.

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:50.919
<v Speaker 5>Three what was the difference between him and what you

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 5>saw In jacksonville twenty four because that whole defensive backfield

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 5>had issues In, jacksonville but it was the whole group.

0:26:58.720 --> 0:26:58.880
<v Speaker 1>There.

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Ye we alluded to that in the beginning of this

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 3>podcast that it had been it's kind of interesting to

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 3>see what they were asking that secondary to. Do and

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.959
<v Speaker 3>then once again we talked about this With Brandon stevens.

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Earlier you, know as a defensive, back like you got

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 3>to have the probably most confidence in any other position

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.640
<v Speaker 3>on the, FIELD i would, say besides, quarterback because you're

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 3>going to get beat, sometimes, right but you have to

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.400
<v Speaker 3>let that go and be able to move. On he's

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:26.360
<v Speaker 3>at his best when he's the middlefield. Safety you talked

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 3>about his ballhawking, ability him being able to go track the,

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 3>football AND i think that's What Aaron glenn And Steve

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 3>wolks will have him do here as. Well it wasn't

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 3>to your, point it wasn't just, him the whole, secondary

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 3>which was revamped a little bit last year For. JACKSONVILLE

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 3>i would, say Besides jerry And, jones the young guy

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 3>that they took From Florida state in the.

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Draft he actually had a pretty good.

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 3>Year but besides, him nobody in that secondary really played

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 3>well last.

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Year SO i know.

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 3>This is it feels good For Andre cisco to be

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 3>able to come back home a team that he cheered

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 3>on when he was younger and to get a fresh.

0:27:58.119 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 2>Start.

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 3>Right SO i think, again Ag Steve Steve wilks their.

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 3>Moujie they look at that twenty three tape and, saying

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 3>this guy was unbelievable as a, middlefield you, know ballhawk and.

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.120
<v Speaker 3>Safety let's get him back to doing what he's good

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 3>at and what he loves to. Do So i'm excited

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 3>to see him get a fresh start In New york as.

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 5>Well, okay so it sounds like The jets are gonna

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 5>Get Isaiah oliver, back AND i think that is under

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 5>the radar signing or agreed out a. Doubt he's A

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 5>Swiss army, knife. Right he can do a lot of

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 5>things in the, defense some backfield and need players like

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 5>that in Today's National Football, league without a.

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 3>Doubt he's a guy that can play in the. Slot

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 3>he's a guy that can play. Safety he's a guy

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 3>when you go dying, personnel when you have six dbs out,

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 3>There he's the other guy that plays in the slot

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 3>opposite Of Michael.

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Carter SO i love this. Now the thing that sucked

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 2>for him last year he.

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Got banged up earlier in the year and missed a

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 3>good portion of, games but he actually came on really

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 3>strong towards the back end of the, year playing at

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 3>the safety position and playing some slot corner Because Michael

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 3>carter got banged. Up SO i really love the you talked.

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 3>About it is, versatility him being A swiss army. KNIFE

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 3>i twooted that when that, deal you, know like it

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 3>was coming down the, pike THAT i love.

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 2>This deal just because of his.

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 3>Versatility AND i think we didn't get to see the

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 3>Best Isaiah oliver because he was banged.

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Up now he played really well down the.

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 3>Stretch But i'm looking forward to him getting integrated into

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 3>this defense and again with his, versatility he could be

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 3>competing to be the opposite starter Of Andre cisco in this. Defense,

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 3>hey were.

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 5>You And Bart scott celebrating when you heard The jets

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 5>edition OF a one?

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Technique you, KNOW i was, LIKE i was so appy

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Because i've been saying this for the. Longest man like

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 3>the defensive, line AND i don't think this takes away

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 3>from the j just potentially taking a de tackle high

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 3>in the. Draft but we've had to switch up multiple

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 3>defensive tackles in multiple. YEARS i, Mean Javon kinlow's, Gone

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.719
<v Speaker 3>Solomon thomas is. Gone you, know before, that it Was Sheldon,

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 3>Rankins Quintin. Jefferson SO i love the signing Of Derek

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 3>nadi just because you Had Super bowl. Experience this guy

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 3>before last. YEAR i believe was a starter for six

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 3>or seven straight years for The Kansas City, chiefs AND

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 3>i went back and watched That Super bowl. Game he

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 3>still he can still play at a pretty high, level

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 3>like in regards to being able to get off blocks and,

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 3>be you, know be a tough out in the run.

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Game and that's something that The jets really need as.

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 3>Well so not only did they sign, him they Signed

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 3>jay To. Fela they also Signed Byron Cohart cohart who

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 3>was actually coming off a career year with The Chicago

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 3>bears as.

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Well so, again these are both young.

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Players that have high upside that didn't break the bank

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 3>in regards to signing them in free.

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Agency all, right.

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna talk about the draft upcom meaning.

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 5>In a comprehensive, way but just right now here after

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 5>a week in free. Agency if you're looking at The

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 5>jets at number, seven let me throw some names at.

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 5>You Tyler warren ste arline member Tackle, Missouri Will campbell

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 5>tackle l S, U Mason graham defensive Tackle. Michigan do

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 5>you all think do you think ultimately it's one of

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 5>those four if The jets stay at.

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.959
<v Speaker 2>SEVEN i think there's a name you missied on that,

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 2>List Tenor roe. McMillan, okay the big receiver From.

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Arizona but, YEAH i think it's gonna be one of

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 3>those five. Names, okay If Mason graham isn't there at,

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 3>seven which Again jacksonville could potentially take him at, FIVE

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 3>i Think Arman membo is a, real real. Consideration we

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 3>talked about right tackle still being in need for The,

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 3>jets and this guy is clearly the best right tackle

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<v Speaker 3>in this draft and it's not even.

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<v Speaker 1>Close why is the stock?

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<v Speaker 2>RISING i don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>IT i don't think IT'S i, mean it may be

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<v Speaker 3>rising to the outside, world BUT i don't think for

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<v Speaker 3>for scouts it's. RISING i think he's always been in

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<v Speaker 3>the consideration for a top ten, pick And i've talked

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<v Speaker 3>to a few people we go back to a few

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<v Speaker 3>years ago When Darnell, wright remember he ended up BEING i,

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<v Speaker 3>believe the first tackle taking in the draft at number,

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<v Speaker 3>ten and a lot of people were. Surprised we got

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<v Speaker 3>to look at THE nfl, today like it's not just

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<v Speaker 3>about being a blind side. Tackle the right tackles are

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<v Speaker 3>getting picked just as much as the left tackles. Are,

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<v Speaker 3>now people Consider Lane johnson the best tackle in, football

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<v Speaker 3>and he's a right, tackle Right and then you go

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<v Speaker 3>Into detroit and pinay, sewell he's a right tackle as,

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<v Speaker 3>well and some people consider him one of the best

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<v Speaker 3>or second best tackles in. Football so you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 3>two if the best of not the best tackles in,

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<v Speaker 3>football being right. Tackles so when you look at Our Mam,

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<v Speaker 3>MEMBU i just go to That TEXAS a AND m,

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<v Speaker 3>game because a lot of those dudes when that defensive

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<v Speaker 3>line are going in the first, round and if not

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<v Speaker 3>the first, round the second. Round and WHEN i tell,

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<v Speaker 3>you he handled all of them and made it look

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<v Speaker 3>easy at. Time the athletic ability to run off the

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<v Speaker 3>line of scrimmage and cut people off on the, backside

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<v Speaker 3>and the strength at the point of attack in his run,

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<v Speaker 3>game the physicality and the ability and his kickstep to

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<v Speaker 3>hold up against power when guys try to go speed to,

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<v Speaker 3>power but also the athletic ability when guys try, to you,

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<v Speaker 3>know use speed on the edge to run them by

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback or just dis mantle. Them like there's a

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<v Speaker 3>saying that offensive line coaches use pass protection doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>to be, passive and he fits that mold because he's

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<v Speaker 3>not passive in past protection at. All he's trying to

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<v Speaker 3>take your heart out your. Soul SO i love it

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<v Speaker 3>from a standpoint of how his mentality is.

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<v Speaker 2>Now people were worried about his.

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<v Speaker 3>HEIGHT i think he's still checked in at around six,

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 3>three almost sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>Four they worried about his arm. LENGTH i didn't think

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 2>it was that big of an.

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<v Speaker 3>Issue it wasn't an issue on tape, Either SO i

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<v Speaker 3>think that's a home run pick if the jests do

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<v Speaker 3>take him at. Seven BUT i brought Up tetoro McMillan

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<v Speaker 3>just BECAUSE i think he would be the perfect compliment

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<v Speaker 3>To Gary. Olson Like Garrett wilson is going to kill

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 3>you in zone. Coverage he's gonna spot up in his zone.

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<v Speaker 3>Coverage he knows how to beat man. Coverage but if

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<v Speaker 3>you need that big receiver to go up and it's

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<v Speaker 3>not fifty fifty jump balls With tetroll. McMillan it's more

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 3>eighty twenty like he's coming down with the football if

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 3>it's in its.

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<v Speaker 2>Vicinity people were worried about his long.

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.839
<v Speaker 3>Speed believe he clocked in it between a four four

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 3>eight and a four or five, five depending on who

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 3>you talk to and what scout you talk. To before

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that's six foot, four two hundred and fifteen,

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 3>pounds that's plenty of speed. Enough i've seen him on

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 3>tape on over routes separate from defensive. Backs and again

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 3>his ability when all us, fails if you just give

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 3>him an opportunity to go and high point the, football

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:32.359
<v Speaker 3>that's what he can. Do so When Justin fields gets

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:34.720
<v Speaker 3>in trouble and he sees that it's a man coverage

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 3>on the outside Because garrett's getting double throw it up

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 3>to Tennor, Rowe he's gonna come down with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Football SO i think he could be a major need

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 2>in the red.

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<v Speaker 3>Zone but also when you talk about just that big

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 3>body receiver that can go up and make plays for,

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 3>you that's what he can. Do and people always worry

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 3>about bigger receivers getting in and out of breaks on.

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<v Speaker 2>Tape it's not a issue for.

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Him.

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<v Speaker 5>Man that is a great teams for what's to come

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<v Speaker 5>in the. Weeks Head, DEUCE i was fun as always

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<v Speaker 5>and we'll catch.

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<v Speaker 1>Up h