1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show Buck is out. 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: We'll be back with me on Tuesday. He's starting his 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Memorial Day holiday weekend a little bit early, as I'm 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: sure many of you are as well. We got a 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: bunch of guests coming up on the back half of 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: the program, Carol Markoitz, Frank Siller, and West Virginia Governor 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Patrick Morrissey all still to come. Lots of reaction rolling 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: in and you guys have been really great at this, 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: but a lot of you are reacting to Caitlin clark 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: analogy because I think it has struck you. And I 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: don't know that anybody else, frankly, would make the analogy 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: because even if you thought of it in sports, so 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: many people are terrified of saying anything that could be 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: considered controversial in the realm of race. And to say, hey, 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: a white girl's being treated differently because she's a white girl, 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, oh my goodness, how dare you? 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: And this email is actually great, and again, I just 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: want you to think about it in the context of 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: the culture and the idea of again a rising tide 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: lifted all boats. Last hour, I said, look, I wish 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: there was. It's you know, the NFL quarterbacks. Everybody's contract 22 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: comes up and they make more money. I'm always of 23 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: the opinion I want everybody to make as much money 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: as possible. I want everybody that does what I do 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: to make as much money as possible. Charlottage the God, 26 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: I want you swimming in a in a Scrooge McDuck 27 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: vault full of cash. Bobby Bones, I want you buying 28 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: your own plane. Sean Hannity. You already got your own plane, 29 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: but more power to you, by the way, not a 30 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: small plane either, like a really awesome, badass plane. Good 31 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: for Sean Hannity. Rush, We've been here four years. Rush 32 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: is the most six scessful person in the history of radio. 33 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: Howard Stern, back before he lost his mind. I want 34 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: all those people to make as much money as possible. 35 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: I want them to be as successful as possible, because 36 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: a rising tide lifts all boats. I made this argument 37 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: a while back. You guys, remember when Tony Romo out 38 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: of Nowhere suddenly made seventeen million dollars to call NFL games. 39 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: Out of Nowhere Tony Romo, CBS had to pay him 40 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars a year to call games. You know 41 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: what ended up happening. Everybody else got nearly seventeen million 42 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: dollars to call games. You shouldn't, in my opinion, if 43 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: you are a capitalist, be angry when someone else in 44 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: your realm of life makes good money. You should be 45 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: looking at them, give them the thumbs up, and figure 46 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: out how to do it yourself and hopefully exceed what 47 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: they do. That's how the golfers responded to Tiger Woods. 48 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: The Tiger tide lifted all boats. That's how the tennis 49 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: players responded to Venus and Serena Williams. The Venus and 50 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: Serena Williams tiede lifted all boats. All tennis players made 51 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: way more money. All golfers made way more money. People 52 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: who didn't look like most of the golfers and most 53 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: of the tennis players came in and made everybody more money. 54 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: Why isn't the same happening in the WNBA. I think 55 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: it's because racism in this country has convinced black women 56 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: that they can't be racist, and so unlike white golfers 57 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: and unlike white tennis players who were like, man, I'm 58 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: not going to do anything racist I'm going to make 59 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: sure that I welcome these people who look differently than me, 60 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: and everybody ends up benefiting as a result. A lot 61 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: of these black basketball players have decided that they hate 62 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark, and a lot of you are reacting. I 63 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: wanted to read this email if I can find it. 64 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: This is from one of our VIPs. She's in Memphis, says, hey, 65 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: I play D one basketball, and she writes as follows, 66 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: You're so correct on this issue. I play D one 67 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: women's college basketball. I live in Memphis, a city I love, 68 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: but can be super racially hyper sensitive. My husband is 69 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: a public school administrator. We see it and live it 70 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: within the circles we live in. We're white. For Caitlin Clark, 71 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: it's not only because she's white, but also because she's straight. 72 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: There are a ton of lesbians as well. No shock 73 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: to a lot of you, I would imagine. But in 74 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: the WNBA, so Caitlin Clark has two differences compared to 75 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: the group that she is entering. She's white and straight 76 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: in a league that has a lot of black lesbians. 77 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: If she weren't so dominant, it wouldn't be an issue. Again, 78 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: this is according to one of our VIP's former D 79 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: one basketball player. Other players are jealous of her. She said, 80 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: I never cared. This is our VIP emailer about paying 81 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: attention to the WNBA prior to her arrival. I took 82 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: my daughter to her first game last year. We drove 83 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis. Two rose below us was a father and 84 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: an adult daughter from my hometown in Alabama. It was 85 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: their first game. Also, she has brought in many people 86 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: that did not support the league previously, and she says 87 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: in we're a big sports family and it's not. And 88 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: by the way, I appreciate the emails that thanks for 89 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: all you do. We appreciate you listening. But this is 90 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: what you want, right. Think about it. If you're a 91 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: business and your business has been let's be honest, the 92 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: WNBA business awful. And suddenly you get this meteor streaking 93 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: across the night sky, You get your Tiger, you get 94 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: your Venus or your Serena. The league should be losing 95 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: its mind over how excited they are every player. You 96 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: know what the average player rookie contract in the WNBA 97 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: is seventy five K. Now, I'm not trying to shoot 98 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: down seventy five K my starting salary as a warrior. 99 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: After I spent a three years, I made less than 100 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: seventy five K. For much of my life I made 101 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: less than seventy five K. I'm not trying to denigrate it, 102 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: but there are dudes coming to work as plumbers now 103 00:06:53,360 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: making more money in their twenties than WNBA athletes. So like, 104 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: if the WNBA ladies though girls, they were just like, oh, 105 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: we don't want we're doing great without her, I'd be like, okay, 106 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: well I don't really get it, but the jealousy would 107 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: make sense. You're all gonna make more money. You might 108 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: make six figures. I saw the other day a girl 109 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: got fined in the WNBA. They kept a paycheck. It 110 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: was forty eight dollars. All right, I'm just saying I 111 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: did radio for fifty dollars a show, so I know 112 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: what it's like to not make much money. But when 113 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: you get fined, and you're fined for what you did 114 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: is less than a parking ticket, you're probably not making 115 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: a ton of money. It is so moronic. How does 116 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: it happen? Now? Some people out there they're sexist, and 117 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: they're like, well, it's just this how women are. Women 118 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: are super jealous. But it didn't apply in tennis. I 119 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: don't think it's gender based. I think it's race based, 120 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: and maybe, as the emailer said, sexuality based too. But 121 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: it's also so counterproductive, and I worry that it is 122 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: unfortunately a metaphor for what is going on in the 123 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: country as a whole. This one's gonna get me in trouble. 124 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: Turn down the radio if you got young kids in 125 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: the car. I was saying, major issue is DEI. It's 126 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: not so much the D or the I, it's the E, right, 127 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: It's equity instead of a quality. Because most of you 128 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: out there, well, look diversity. The diversity that matters is 129 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: diversity of thought, not diversity of skin color. But I 130 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: do think diversity of thought matters. If I run a 131 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: company and I got eight people sitting around on my 132 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: board and they all look different, but give me the 133 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: exact same advice, is that really helping me as a CEO? 134 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: Larry David made fun of this, the idea of cosmetic diversity. 135 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: There's a great scene in Curb Your Enthusiasm, a great 136 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: season in Curby Your Enthusiasm, where a white guy is 137 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: in charge of making all the creative decisions, but he 138 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: has like a woman in a wheelchair, and like a 139 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: gay trans person like sitting on the couch in his 140 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: room and all they do is nod. That is the diversity, 141 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: But he's still the dude making the decision. If I'm 142 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: asking people for advice, I want a variety of opinions. 143 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 1: My wife used to get mad at me because I 144 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: would ask her for an opinion or advice, and then 145 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do what she said. I did not a 146 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: smart guy. I didn't realize that. She was like, like, 147 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: I've given you thirty two straight advice points and you 148 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: haven't done any of them or what. But she's super smart. 149 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: To Innovaderbilt Law school, I want somebody super smart telling 150 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: me what they think to make sure that I'm not 151 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: missing something. Doesn't mean that I'm going to make the 152 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: choice that you suggest or follow your guidance completely. I 153 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: just want to make sure that I'm considering the entirety 154 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: of opinions. So diversity actually of thought makes total sense. 155 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: You are going to be successful more in life if 156 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: you challenge your opinions. Then if you surround people who 157 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: always say, oh, you're right. So diversity of thought matters, 158 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: inclusion matters. You want to include as many different opinions 159 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: as possible, because I have the idea that this is 160 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: how you end up in a better place. The reason 161 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: why I think we're going to be more successful than 162 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: China in the long run is because China artificially circumscribes 163 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: or its people can be exposed to. And if you 164 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: can't see everything and consider everything, particularly in a modern 165 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: AI era, how do you come up with something new? 166 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: Newness is generally speaking, a conflict between two divergent perspectives. Boom, 167 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: it creates something new. All right, this keep now. I 168 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: told you to turn down the radio too quick. You 169 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: know the analogy that actually should get used that nobody 170 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: talks about. Strip clubs make way more money if the 171 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: girls look different. I'm just telling you, if you only 172 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: have a strip club and every girl is a blonde. 173 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: Maybe that exists in Sweden, I don't know, it doesn't 174 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: do as well as a Vegas style strip club where 175 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: every girl looks different. I'm just telling you. Strip club 176 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: is probably the greatest example of diversity working, because if 177 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: every girl looks the same, they're all competing for the 178 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: same dude. And a dude who might be interested in 179 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: something else he comes in he doesn't spend his money. 180 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if we have any strip club operators 181 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: listening right now, but I guarantee the guy who gal 182 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: who runs a strip club is like clapping their hands together. 183 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: It's like, you're the first person to ever make this 184 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: analogy to millions of people on a radio show ever, 185 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: Probably for a reason, but it's true. The WNBA has 186 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: an opportunity with a unique talent, the likes of which 187 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: has never existed in the history of the league, to 188 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: actually make people care about their product. And they hate 189 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: her because she's straight, and they hate her because she's white. 190 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: And what does the WNBA's response to Caitlin Clark in 191 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: a larger context tell us about not allowing the rising 192 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: tide to lift all boats. That certainly was the case 193 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties because if you were black in America, 194 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: you had a lot less opportunities than a white kid did. 195 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: And that's a fin to me because it means we 196 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: didn't get the best maximal talent from everybody who was 197 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: a United States citizen. Are we starting to do the 198 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: same in the twenty twenties because of racial politics. I 199 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: think the answer is yes, and I think unfortunately it's 200 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: not the exact same story, but history rhymes, it doesn't repeat, 201 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: and the rhyme is Caitlin Clark isn't getting treated like 202 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods or Serena Williams or Venus Williams. Why. I 203 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: think because black women in the WNBA are convinced they 204 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: can't be racist, and they're not concerned at all about 205 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: welcoming Caitlin into their sorority, into their business, even though 206 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: that Caitlin Clark tied would make them all richer and 207 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: maybe you'd make more than seventy five thousand dollars a 208 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: year because of all the new fans coming in. I 209 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: think this is such a huge, evocative moment, and I 210 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: think it connects with so much of what we're seeing 211 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: in far more significant and serious arenas. I'm gonna ask 212 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: Carol Marco, it's about this here in a minute. See 213 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: if she thinks I'm a moron, you may think I'm 214 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: a moron, and certainly you're welcome to call and tell 215 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: me too. Eight uh eight hundred two eight two two 216 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: eight eight two is the phone number. Eight hundred two 217 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: eight two two eight eight two. Kate writes in you 218 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: made so much sense. I've been trying to figure all 219 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: this out myself. Awesome job, Clay. Happy Memorial weekend. Well Kate, 220 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: I love you. 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Spend time with Clay and 253 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 254 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: get your podcasts. 255 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 256 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us, and there are a 257 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: lot of you who want to weigh in. Let me 258 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: pull up and see who we want to go to first. 259 00:16:54,840 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: Matt and Maryland. What you got? I don't know if Matt, yeah, 260 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: we're here. You called us? 261 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: Hey, hey guys, oh Clay real quick. About two weeks 262 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: ago today I was at Brewer's Beach, So I got 263 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: to see your school there and it was pretty cool. 264 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: Oh awesome. 265 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: Just just wanted to say the the CEO, the Reegi 266 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: Mangio anything. If you think about how the races were 267 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: if if the shooter was black, this would be ignored. 268 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: If the CEO was black, this would be about racism. 269 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: There'd be no fan girling over this guy. If either 270 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: of these people were black, there'd be no fan girling. 271 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: There'd be no you know, the idiot saying, well, he's 272 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 2: righteous in what he's doing. You wouldn't have any of that. 273 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, because we've got to coming 274 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 1: up on a break. Let me give you a perfect 275 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: example of what you're arguing. Do you remember the Nashville 276 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: trans shooter. She went and shot white kids because she 277 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: was concerned she would be seen as racist if she 278 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: shot black kids. 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By 298 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: the way, I want to get Carol's take on this. 299 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: I have challenged Angel Reese, who hates Caitlin Clark, to 300 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: a basketball game to fifteen after I watched Angel Reese 301 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: miss like nine consecutive layups in a basketball game last night. 302 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: Ones and twos. I'm forty six, six foot one eighty five. 303 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: Angel Reese is six foot three one sixty five. This 304 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: will be interesting. But Carol, have you seen this yet? 305 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm texting it to you. So the Daily Wire wrote 306 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: about this and they picked a photo of the wrong 307 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: white guy, like they have they have misidentified this is 308 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: It is the racism of the highest magnitude. They just 309 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: think they can put a white guy in a ball cap, 310 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: the beard and some God do you see this? I 311 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: don't even know who that is. Do you know who 312 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: that is? 313 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 4: I don't know. He looks like he just won maybe 314 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 4: a golf something. 315 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: So the headline is play Travis challenges w One of 316 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: my buddies just sent me this, like who is the 317 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: white guy? They used the wrong white guy picture for me? 318 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: They got Angel Reyese? Right, Good for them because they've 319 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: gotten the wrong black girl prob. Yeah, if they gotten 320 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: the wrong black girl photo, the company wouldn't exist anymore. 321 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: But they got the wrong white guy photo. So, first 322 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: of all, I don't know how much time you've spent 323 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: in basketball analysis. How do you think I would do 324 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: against Angel Reese one on one? 325 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: See? 326 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 4: This is how you try to make me care about 327 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 4: women's basketball? 328 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 5: Right? 329 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: You would watch? Would you watch? 330 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 4: Watch? 331 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: Yes? Of course everybody would watch this. 332 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 4: Watch. I like your quote. She plays basketball all the time, 333 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: I occasionally playing my fourteen year old in our backyard. 334 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: That's accurate, that's one d percurate. 335 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you could take her. I think anybody 336 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 4: who is that fulon themselves it is ripe for being beat. 337 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: Well, then certainly that would be a real battle of 338 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: egos between me and Angel. I am a little bit 339 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: concerned about my tendons and my and my ankles holding up, 340 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: so I'd only be able to play one game. But 341 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: I really think that I could beat her. She's got 342 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: me on a few inches, but I have her on 343 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: I think shooting ability, which is an indictment of her. 344 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: She does play all the time. It's actually her job. 345 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: Do you know that you may not know this. Do 346 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: you know what the rookie salary is for WNBA players? 347 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 4: I don't tell me what it is. 348 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: Seventy five thousand dollars a year. Legitimately, you get drafted 349 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: into the WNBA, they put it on television, and then 350 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: you get paid seventy five thousand dollars a year. All right, 351 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: wowrought we brought you on for a variety of serious things. 352 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: You didn't know what you were walking into. 353 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 4: This before we get this serious, though, I looked up 354 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 4: that image that they had of you. It appears to 355 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 4: be just a model for sunglasses. 356 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: You like that. You can search images to see. So 357 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: they just picked a random white guy who was modeling sunglasses. Yeah. Again, 358 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: I think the company would cease to exist if they 359 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: had misidentified Angel Reese. But the fact that they have 360 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: just picked a random white guy as opposed to actually 361 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: using me is Oh. Some people are saying it looks 362 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: like Chris Harrison from The Bachelor, which is which is 363 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: even funnier potentially. All right, So, uh, by the way, 364 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: happy early Memorial Day. Are you and the kids doing 365 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: anything anything special this weekend? 366 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 4: I'm at a history tournament, Clay, I'm at a history 367 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 4: tournament with my middle son for four days. So fo oh, yeah, 368 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 4: it's name. 369 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: So how does the history tournament work? Is that like 370 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: quiz bowl? 371 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 4: It is? It is. It's a bunch of nerdy kids 372 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: all staying in one hotel, and it's quite wonderful. Obviously, 373 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 4: I'm what I'm joking about it. 374 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: But what percentage of the questions do you know the 375 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: answer to? 376 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: I know approximately, Like on his regional competitions, I would 377 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 4: know about half at the nationals or international competitions that 378 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: he does. I know like ten percent. 379 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: So is it world history? Like they can be asked 380 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: anything under the sun. 381 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 4: It could be anything. 382 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, did they still have the bell? Like you have 383 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: to hit later? I would like to see the lizzer. 384 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 4: You have to hit the buzzer. They're tough, they're tough questions. 385 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: This is by the way I would I would be 386 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: super interested in this. And but four days? How many rounds? 387 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: I mean, how like that's unbelievable. 388 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 4: It starts with you know, it starts with two rounds 389 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 4: and you have to advance and you know, so on. 390 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: So where is the tournament? What part of the country. 391 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 4: It's in Orlando? 392 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean there are worse places you could be. 393 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be there next week to go to the 394 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: new Universal studios with my kids. Yeah. Uh so, well 395 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: that's a heck of a way to spend Memorial Day weekend. 396 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: That is a very parent answer. I have a question 397 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: for you. I know you're not a diehard sports person, 398 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: but I know you're well know in general, this idea. 399 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: The reason we were talking about the Kaitlin Clark and 400 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: the reason that picture is up is. I was comparing 401 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: it to Tiger Woods comes into golf and everybody suddenly 402 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: cares about golf. A lot of you out there listening 403 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: to me right now watch the Master's Tournament that you 404 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: would have never watched if Tiger hadn't been involved. Then 405 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: you have Venus and Serena Williams come into tennis, and 406 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: the number of people watching women's tennis, especially in the 407 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: United States, skyrockets. And now you have Kaitlin Clark and 408 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: way more people are paying attention to women's basketball. Venus, 409 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: Serena and Tiger were in general all welcomed with open 410 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: arms by golf and tennis. My theory on why Caitlyn 411 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: Clark is being disrespected and actually not welcomed at all 412 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: is because of racism and because a lot of the 413 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: black women in the WNBA don't feel like there are 414 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: any consequences for being racist. And I think it actually 415 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: ties in with the larger culture, unfortunately, of what we've 416 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: seen happen with Israel since October seventh, where Jews are 417 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: seen as white and so people don't actually look at 418 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: good or evil or even acknowledge their own behavior because 419 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: they feel like that is the system under which they're 420 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: viewing it. Do you see those disconnected or am I crazy? 421 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely? No, I absolutely see that connection. And it's funny, 422 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 4: you know, funny, not funny. But my fifteen year old 423 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 4: daughter and I have this running joke that Jews are 424 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 4: whatever the worst thing is. So when it's white and 425 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 4: we're white, when it's not white and we're not white, 426 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 4: it's whatever the bad thing is. But yeah, absolutely, it's 427 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 4: who you're allowed to hate, who it's okay to hate 428 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 4: openly and to do bad things too openly. And you're 429 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 4: right in making that connection because I think that's where 430 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 4: we are. Like some people, you're some racist, some religions 431 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 4: they're allowed to just talk negatively about openly, you know. 432 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 4: And obviously Christianity has the same issue, maybe on a 433 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 4: less intense scale, but it's the same thing. Right, You 434 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 4: can make fun of Christians all you want. Try to 435 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 4: make fun of some other religions and you're not going 436 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: to be greeted with the same level of humor. 437 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: So no, I mean, it's a great example. I didn't 438 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: think about the Christian angle, but certainly think about the Olympics. 439 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: They made fun of the Last Supper in France, which 440 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: is a Christian nation in a way they never would 441 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 1: have made fun of Islam for instance, I mean they 442 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: would have. I mean, Charlie hipgo they all got killed 443 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: for putting a poster a picture of of Muhammed, but 444 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: mocking in sort of a disgusting fashion the Last Supper 445 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: is perfectly Okay, that's a good analogy too. Let me 446 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: ask you this, you after October seventh, Well, you talked 447 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: about this, Buck, and I did yesterday. Buck said, Hey, 448 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: I want to teach Carol how to use guns. You've 449 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: got three young kids, and I think many Jewish people 450 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: in the wake of October seventh suddenly thought, even if 451 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: they hadn't traditionally been people who owned guns, hey it's 452 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: time to go get guns now. We have to be 453 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: able to protect our family because the rising tide of 454 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: anti Semitism is sweeping across the world, and that certainly 455 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: is connected to the awful murder in Washington, d C. 456 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 1: We saw. Do you think that other Jews, based on 457 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: your conversations, are making this same decision when it comes 458 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: to weapons, and take us into conversations that you have 459 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: had since the untimely and unfortunate and awful murder of 460 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: these two young Jewish people in Washington, d C. What 461 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: have conversations sounded like in the Jewish community. 462 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 4: Well, you're absolutely right. Well, first of all, I just 463 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 4: want to clarify the man in the couple was actually 464 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 4: a Christian. He was a dedicated Christian, his mom was Christian. 465 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 4: He had lived in Israel, he had served in the IDEF. 466 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 4: But he was a Christian Israeli. And that's sort of 467 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 4: the thing here. It's that these monsters who want to 468 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 4: harm Jews or harm people connected to Israel, they don't 469 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 4: care if you're Jewish or not. They're going to hurt 470 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 4: whoever's around. They're not making calculated decisions as to who 471 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 4: to kill. They just sprayed bullets into people leaving an event. 472 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 4: It could have been anybody. So this idea that you know, 473 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 4: you absolutely need to protect yourself. Jewish spaces have been 474 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 4: amazing at it, terrisfically amazing at it. Had this person 475 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 4: tried to go into the event, they would have not succeeded. 476 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 4: But he waited outside, which is really a dangerous place 477 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 4: for anybody leaving an event like this. That's where the 478 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 4: danger would come in because he wouldn't be able to 479 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 4: get through the security Having said all that, I've absolutely 480 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: seen such a shift in the Jewish community. I've written 481 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: about it in a number of different ways. I wrote 482 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 4: about it before October seventh. I wrote a column called 483 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 4: the New Jew because I was at a Jewish comedy 484 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 4: show in Miami and it was a lot of different 485 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 4: Jewish comics and one of the Jewish comics started talking 486 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 4: negatively about guns and the crowd started booing her. And 487 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 4: I had never seen anything like it. I was a 488 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 4: fairly new fluridy. And you know, I've only been there 489 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 4: three years. The Jewish community had long been anti guns. 490 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 4: And again this is before October seventh, this is January 491 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. So when the crowd started booing her, 492 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 4: I was like, Wow, something has really changed in the 493 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: Jewish world. And I hear from Jews all the time. 494 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 4: They're getting armed, they're getting trained, and it's really important 495 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 4: to do that. You know. Another thing I've written about 496 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 4: in terms of guns is you don't you know people say, oh, 497 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 4: I'm not a gun person. When you say that, when 498 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 4: you say I'm not a gun person, you're saying I'm 499 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 4: not a helping other people person. I want to be 500 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 4: the kind of person that can step in and help. Therefore, 501 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 4: I am a gun person. 502 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: I think that is incredibly well said, and all over 503 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: Israel when I traveled in December, I saw moms carrying 504 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,719 Speaker 1: guns on their hips now in a way that they 505 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: never would have before October seventh. I like your question 506 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: of basically like who you are allowed to hate? Because 507 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: I do think it goes to the embodiment here of 508 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: the Jewish faith is I mean Jewish people look around 509 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: and they say, we've been hated for thousands of years, 510 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: the idea that we would suddenly be and and by 511 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: the way, also have spoken up for so many other 512 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: groups that we beget believe have been oppressed or treated unfairly. 513 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: And then suddenly you look around and the people that 514 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: you have been fighting for don't have your back at all. 515 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: What has that realization been like? 516 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting because I don't have that as much 517 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 4: because I'm a conservative, and I've been a lifelong conservative. 518 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 4: You know, I can't. I was born in the Soviet Union. 519 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 4: I came to America as a small child. You don't 520 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 4: become a liberal after that. So I was a conservative 521 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: my whole life, and my conservative world has been generally 522 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 4: amazing amazing on protecting Jews in America, amazing on Israel 523 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: in general. Conservative, the conservative side has been just above 524 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 4: and beyond. I mean, just you know, yesterday box sexon Now, 525 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 4: your co host posted some commentary about the shooting and 526 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 4: just how you know America won't stand for it, and 527 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 4: how Jews deserve to feel safe here and that kind 528 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 4: of thing, and I reposted it on my Instagram because 529 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 4: I wanted my liberal Jewish friends to see it, and 530 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 4: I posted, you know, if this isn't your friends today, 531 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 4: you don't want them. And my friends have been unbelievable. 532 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 4: You've been unbelievable. I feel such a warm embrace from 533 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 4: the conservative side. Having said all that, obviously there's been 534 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 4: an uptick on the right, all of people kind of 535 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 4: moving in a dangerous direction. I think the villainization of 536 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 4: Israel on the right has been kind of scary. But 537 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 4: I also think it's still very limited. You still have 538 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 4: the people who kind of say bad things about Jews 539 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 4: or say bad things about Israel, even the canvase Owens 540 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 4: of the world. They still kind of have to dance 541 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 4: around it. You know, they'll always be like, I have 542 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 4: no problem with Jews, I have no problem with Israel. 543 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 4: I just have a problem with and then they'll say 544 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 4: something ye like not Yahoo or something the democratically elected 545 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 4: leader of Israel. So it's still far better to be 546 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 4: on the right than it is to be on the left. 547 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 4: And I understand why so many of my liberal Jewish 548 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 4: friends are feeling, you know, like they've lost their bearings. 549 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 4: They've they've stood with these people in a variety of 550 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 4: marches and causes and whatever, and these people don't have 551 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 4: their backs. And what I would say to them is 552 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 4: this is the time to have your eyes be open. 553 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 4: Realize who does stand with you. The Jewish vote for 554 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 4: Donald Trump, for example, increased by a lot this last time. 555 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 4: He got thirty percent in twenty twenty. I think it's 556 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 4: in the forties this time, and that should keep moving up, 557 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 4: because the right is a friend our friends to Jews, 558 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 4: their friends to Israel, and Jews in America should wake 559 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 4: up and notice that. 560 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: Carol, your podcast is up. Everybody should be checking it 561 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: out if they aren't. As a part of the Clay 562 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: and Buck podcast network. Four days of quiz Bowl is 563 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: a heck of a long time of quiz bowls. We 564 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 1: appreciate you stepping away from that to hang out with us, 565 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: and good luck to your fifteen year old on dominating 566 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: the quiz bowl company. 567 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 4: Twelve year old, my twelve year old. 568 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: Twelve year old sorry, fifteen year old girl is the right? 569 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: This is the middle one, yes, middle one? All right, 570 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: good deal. Well we'll talk again soon, but keep up 571 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: the good work. Thank you, Carol Markwitz. I really do 572 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: highly impress upon you that you check out Obviously she 573 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: writes at the New York Post and does fabulous work there. 574 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: But I really do impress upon you if you haven't 575 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: checked out the Clay and Buck podcast network. We have 576 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: a lot of super talented people from a variety of 577 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: different perspectives that I believe you will enjoy maybe, and 578 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: hows of time you can check it out because you're 579 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: on the road for Memorial Day looking for something to 580 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: listen to. I know I'm gonna be doing that tomorrow 581 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: as I go up to the Indy five hundred book 582 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,239 Speaker 1: as we kind of are talking about the awfulness of 583 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: what happened to those two Israelis, right, I guess it 584 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: was one Israelian one. I think the woman was born 585 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: in Kansas. If I'm not mistaken, it is Unfortunately reflective 586 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: of the rise in anti Semitism that we are seeing 587 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: not only in the United States but around the world. 588 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't very long ago that the governor 589 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania's house was burned down, the Governor's mansion, by 590 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: someone who was trying to stand up they thought for Palestine, 591 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: that is completely unacceptable, and that's one of the things 592 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: that the IFCJ is trying to fight back against. They've 593 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: rushed so much emergency aid to Israel, purchasing everything from 594 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: prepackaged emergency food, water, flashlights, building bomb shelters, fortifying emergency vehicles. 595 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: They even helped move entire hospital wing structures underground, which 596 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: we saw when we were there, because of the concern 597 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: about missiles that might otherwise be arriving in northern Israel. 598 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,479 Speaker 1: The IFCJ has helped install nearly two hundred mobile bomb 599 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: shelters near bus stops. You can join us in supporting 600 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews by calling eight 601 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: eight eight four eight eight IFCJ. That's eight eight eight 602 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: four eight eight four three two five. You can also 603 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: go online to give at IFCJ dot org. That's IFCJ 604 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: dot org. 605 00:34:54,840 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: Stories are Freedom stories of America, inspirational stories that you'd night. 606 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 1: Us all each day. 607 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 3: Spend time with Clay and buy find them on the 608 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 3: free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 609 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton show. Strip club 610 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: owners are weighing in in big numbers about the importance 611 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: of diversity. Todd in Tampa says he does marketing for 612 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: strip clubs. Here's what he had to say. 613 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 5: Clay, I work in marketing in Tampa Bay and strip clubs. 614 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. 615 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 5: They need more diversity in the clubs. White girls, black girls, 616 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 5: Hispanic girls. Right now, there's a ton of Cuban girls 617 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 5: and customers are not spending their money. They want something different. 618 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 5: Try to get some Asian girls in here. That would 619 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 5: actually be very beneficial for us. All right, Clay, keep 620 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 5: doing a good job. Buck mischieon today, have a good one. 621 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 1: Just call me the MLK of strip clubs. Just trying 622 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: to bring all the racists together. It makes total sense 623 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: to me. I don't know that anybody else has ever 624 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: had that analogy and not worked in a strip club 625 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: for a living, But that is where you would everybody 626 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: would make more money. Everybody looks the exact same that 627 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: one type of guy spends a lot of money, nobody 628 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: else makes money. Girls all make less just trying to 629 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 1: make America great again in strip clubs as well. When 630 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: we come back, Frank Siller will join us Tunnel to 631 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: Towers Memorial Day weekend. We're going to talk about the 632 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: importance of so many people who have given so much 633 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: to this country and what they're trying to do to 634 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: help at Tunnel to Towers. Also, Governor of West Virginia, 635 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Morrissey is going to join us at the bottom 636 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: of that hour all that's still to come, final hour 637 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: before the long weekend. We appreciate all of you, and 638 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 1: certainly we appreciate all of you who have family members 639 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: who have made the ultimate sacrifice that allow us to 640 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: celebrate all as one nation all around the country, with 641 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: a lot of you already underway on those celebrations. We 642 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: appreciate the time you spend with us. When we come back, 643 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: Frank Siller and we will shift gears a little bit 644 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: talk Memorial Day impact with him all that more final 645 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: hour of the week. 646 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 3: Next Slay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines 647 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 3: of truth