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Speaker 2: How the heck are you here on a Wednesday? Chris

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Speaker 2: Brown Steve tasking with you one Pills Live. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: joining us. Took till today. I'm officially excited about the draft.

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Speaker 2: I am officially excited now. I was like I was

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Speaker 1: You know what did it for me? There's some stuff

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Speaker 1: on social out there now that you're seeing, Like all

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Speaker 1: these guys that we've been watching all the highlights of

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Speaker 1: and seeing, they're all in Detroit. They're kind of making

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Speaker 2: Got they got all this thirteen or fifteen thirteen, they're

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Speaker 1: They're they're all swagged out, going around working with you know,

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Speaker 2: Is on Like they have you seen the setup there,

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Speaker 2: portable amphitheater, like and I realized, you know, they did

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Speaker 2: it in Kansas City last year in not so many ways.

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Speaker 1: You know, uh, there's hey, there's companies out there that

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Speaker 2: Stuff just pops up out of the ground. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you know the thing about it though, They

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Speaker 1: So there's got to be you know, this is pretty

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Speaker 1: grand though. Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty complicated.

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Speaker 2: The NFL doesn't play around with the draft. It's it's

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Speaker 2: like a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I'll say it again. It's it's not like they have

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Speaker 1: The city's going there when we put a bid together

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Speaker 1: and and Detroit paid more money than Indie or Philly

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Speaker 1: about it, right, because you want to give that to

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Speaker 2: All it's like it. It looks like it really does

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Speaker 2: look like an amphithet, you know, like one of those dome,

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Speaker 2: like those bandshells. It's like a giant, like a bandshell

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Speaker 2: It's huge, So it looks pretty cool. Detroit, All eyes

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Speaker 2: will be on Detroit tomorrow night. And man is there

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff coming down the pike here. A

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Speaker 2: lot of the national news breakers that cover the NFL

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Speaker 2: beat are listing a bunch of late chatter about, you know,

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Speaker 2: the first round. There's also some transactional stuff going on

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Speaker 2: before we get to what we had as some of

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Speaker 2: the lead items, there are other items. As the Cincinnati Bengals,

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Speaker 2: according to ESPN's Adam Schefter, have exercised the fifth year

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Speaker 2: option on Jamar Chase's contract. That is no surprise he

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Speaker 2: He is not going to be traded. That's what the

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Speaker 2: him in a healthy Joe Burrow. See how far they

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Speaker 1: I would too. I mean, the injuries that Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: He can't stay on the field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I'll say this, he's He is elite when

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Speaker 2: AFC North News, according to multiple reports, the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 2: have restructured the contract of outside linebacker Alex Smith, their

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Speaker 2: So they're creating more cap space for another reason, is

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Speaker 2: love Brandon Ayuk, but I got to give up a

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm doing it.

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Speaker 1: No, Auke, stay and put after this deal, because who's

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Speaker 1: I mean, Yeah, Okay, you can push some of that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's it. And so I want.

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Speaker 1: it's only because of the guarantees. So what the you know,

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Speaker 2: You know, And maybe he doesn't get close to Saint

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Speaker 2: you need more cap space to get it done, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't know though that that I'm on Ross Saint

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Speaker 1: Well, you think about down And I'm not saying anything

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Speaker 1: I'm getting quarterback money.

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Speaker 2: Well, not fifty two. I meant thirty two.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna he goes listen, I'm gonna set

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Speaker 2: And that's why I think more more of these teams

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Speaker 1: And that's not all. It's not just the number one

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Speaker 1: get me one. You are five. We don't come up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they I know they drafted a receiver in

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert sitting there going, listen, look at our division.

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Speaker 1: Get me Moleik Neighbors, get me Roma doon Zay, get

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Speaker 1: me Marvin Harrison Junior, one of those three guys. I

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Speaker 1: so if you've got a guy you like, if they

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Speaker 2: Something, Give me another guy, because I've already I loved

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Speaker 2: my guy. Because Mike Williams is playing for the Jets

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Speaker 1: And then get me four offensive linemen after that? I mean,

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Speaker 1: They texted back and forth. You give your you give

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Speaker 1: Are we gonna do? Help me out? You know that

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Speaker 1: man oh man, yeah, and this and contracts like this

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Speaker 2: Point just oh, they spin the hamster wheel even faster.

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Speaker 1: Oh dude, the whole machine cranks up at the whole

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Speaker 1: like you can hear it. It's so it's so unbelievable

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Speaker 1: We gotta get one. We gotta keep our guy happy.

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Speaker 2: Keep an eye on the Steelers just restretched Alexiskin's contract.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't happen this time of year for no reason.

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Speaker 2: ESPN's Jeremy Fallier has been working the phones. He reported

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Speaker 2: that when he asked teams to predict which player will

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Speaker 2: up fairly often is Texas receiver Xavier Worthy. Fourth wide

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Speaker 2: According to Fowler, he's bracing to go somewhere in the

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Speaker 2: to early to mid twenties. The bill, Steve can get

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Speaker 2: that striking distance. Yes, it is, mister tasker.

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Speaker 1: If the Bills take twenty eight and sixty, they could

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Speaker 2: Seventeen, right, and that what we said seventeen sixteen, So.

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Speaker 1: We're in the seventeen eighteen Jacksonville, Cincinnati. Now they could

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Speaker 2: To because they have a couple of AFC teams may

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Speaker 1: They're throwing a fifth rounder with they could throw in

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, there is an update on Brian Thomas's shoulder

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Speaker 2: injury from combine medical recheck shoulder issue in college, but

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Speaker 2: Fowler is reporting that the teams he's spoken to say

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Speaker 2: it's not a major red flag, just something they have

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Speaker 2: to manage in year one. Meanwhile, Texas's ad Mitchell George's

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Speaker 2: The Bills, according to Fowler, will basically scour the earth

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Speaker 2: Where it is they love a donze and loosely know

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Speaker 2: land him. But that's a window into the legwork that

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Speaker 1: Like scouring the earth. It's you're right, and let me

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Speaker 1: just thumb through here and I'll tell you where they're at.

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Speaker 1: They are on the wide receiver train.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know what you're gonna do here.

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Speaker 2: The white play the horn. Is that what we're doing?

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Speaker 1: The train horn is on all right, letter rip.

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Speaker 1: And there we go. Wide receiver train are rolling the

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Speaker 2: He said it. I've said it a bunch of times.

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Speaker 2: I think if Brian Thomas gets past the Colts at fifteen,

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Bengals are taking a receiver, but

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Speaker 1: So they might be ripe for that. But you know, Spots,

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Speaker 2: You have to sweeten the pot.

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Speaker 1: So but that's it. If you get a guy, if

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Patriots have fielded a ton of trade calls,

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Speaker 2: It's said that no one should be surprised if they

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Speaker 2: they do like Michael Pennix and would be fine taking

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Speaker 2: So the two teams that have spoken the most with

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Speaker 2: the Patriots, according to reports. This is ESPN's Dan Graziana

435
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Speaker 2: reporting this Giants and Vikings two teams talking to the

436
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Speaker 2: Patriots the most about their pick at three. It's basically,

437
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Speaker 2: if Washington takes Daniels at number two, the Giants will

438
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Speaker 2: be on the phone looking to get up to number three,

439
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: where they reportedly like Drake May Now. Early in the

440
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: process they were in love with jj McCarthy that is

441
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: now flipped to Drake May Now according to the latest report.

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Speaker 1: Drake May. Well, you think about it, you know, Brian

443
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: da Ball Joe Shane on the staff that drafted Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: Drake May is the closest thing in this draft to him.

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Speaker 2: Here's the other juicy one, Steve. According to Dan Graziano,

446
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Speaker 2: he has been told in recent day that the Giants

447
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 2: like Michael Pennix and might even be willing to take

448
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: him in the number six hole where they currently sit.

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Speaker 2: Pennix at six. I know you liked him from the jump.

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Speaker 2: I like him too. He's got the best arm in

451
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Speaker 2: the draft, you know, he's is nothing to sneeze at. No,

452
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Speaker 2: you better have a damn good offensive line if he's

453
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Speaker 2: going to be your quarterback, because he's not running around

454
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Speaker 2: like these other guys. But he can sling it.

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Speaker 1: Man, he can sling it. Good arm seem and the

456
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: thing about it, he seems to see it too. I

457
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Speaker 1: mean he's throwing it into windows and he Yeah. I

458
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: liked him a lot when I saw him. I saw

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Speaker 1: him live a little bit, and then of course went

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Speaker 1: back and watched his some tape and guy's got it.

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Speaker 1: I mean I like where he's at. He throws it, man,

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Speaker 1: I got a live he got a pro arm, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was really underrated. In fact, I watched

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Speaker 1: this and because I was watching, who was I watching?

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Speaker 1: Who's the receiver Franklin, not Rank Franklin, Troy Franklin, Troy Franklin,

466
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Speaker 1: or was it Coleman, keon Coleman, ke on Coleman. Anyway,

467
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: so I'm watching him and I'm watching the receiver, and

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00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: then I'm I'm going, I don't know, quarterbacks make some

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Speaker 1: pretty good in bow Nicks, Like, yeah, that's right, bow Nicks.

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Speaker 1: I was watching, but with Troy frank Yeah, yeah, But

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Speaker 1: when I was watching Washington, I was also watching one

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Speaker 1: of the receivers first before I saw Jalen Polker Jayleen

473
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Speaker 1: McMillan Polka, and I was watching him and then I

474
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Speaker 1: was like, guy, who's the guy? Man, he's a good player.

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Speaker 1: I like him. And then you know, then I found out.

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Speaker 1: I said, in fact, I asked you, I think, why

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Speaker 1: is Pannix not hiring all these people? He said, well,

478
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Speaker 1: he had four he had four, you know, season ending

479
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Speaker 1: injuries in four straight years.

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Speaker 2: And he's also twenty four years old.

481
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's so I was like, man, oh, man,

482
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Speaker 1: I don't know that guy's good. So it doesn't surprise me.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to me. I mean, it doesn't surprise

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Speaker 1: me if there are teams that see him for what

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Speaker 1: he is and are willing to like, Okay, we're just

486
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Speaker 1: gonna gonna protect him and see if he can play.

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Speaker 1: I like the guy, and I yeah, he's gonna I'll say,

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Speaker 1: I think he's as he's got as high a floor

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Speaker 1: in year one as any of these guys. And the

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Speaker 1: best are mainly because mainly because I see Caleb Williams

491
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Speaker 1: going to Chicago and there's there's always an Abyss there,

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Speaker 1: so he's got a floor that's unreachable. So yeah, with

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Speaker 1: with Joe Shane and Brian Dabole, Mike Pennix.

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Speaker 2: Is it wouldn't stun me.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't mean I'd be That's I think it's the

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Speaker 1: right thing for them to do.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just Daniel Jones, ain't it?

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's get to our topic of discussion today.

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Speaker 2: Obviously we've been receiver heavy, knowing the Bill's primary need

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Speaker 2: on offense, and we continue in this way today on

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Speaker 2: that very subject. Who is the last wide receiver? You'd

503
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 2: take it? Pick twenty eight if you were the Bills.

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00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: We all have our rankings, lists of receivers and who

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00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: we like for the Bills, but who would you who's

506
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Speaker 2: the last wide receiver on your list? You'd be good

507
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Speaker 2: taking at pick twenty eight if you were the ten

508
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Speaker 2: And yeah, we have ten up on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 2: when we put the question out on Twitter, so I

510
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: think we or maybe you have somebody else.

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Speaker 1: You know, some Twitter etiquette. We should have made the

512
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Speaker 1: list like six names long and said who's not on

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Speaker 1: this list that you would take at twenty eight?

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Speaker 2: No, I kind of like the way we did it.

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Speaker 2: Who's the last guy you would take and be okay

516
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Speaker 2: with value wise at twenty eight? Did you put a

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Speaker 2: list together.

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Speaker 1: Steve No, I mean, I take I've got eight.

519
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: Guys that I'd be okay taking at twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take four guys or five. I might

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Speaker 1: take five guys off of that list. I'll take everybody, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the top three plus Brian Thomas, Junior, A d Mitchell,

523
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Speaker 1: and everybody else.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, not even your boy Xavier Leget, not

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Speaker 4: even xavierly Get.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the Bills had a private It was

527
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: reported they had a private workout with Xavier Leget. So

528
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick that in my pipe with about fifty others,

529
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: right right, I'll say this. They they know more about

530
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Speaker 1: Xavier Leget than I do. So I'm gonna trust them

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna get him right. If they do consider him,

532
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: it comes off at twenty eight. Believe me, they'll believe

533
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: he's worth it.

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Speaker 2: I obviously would be good with any of the top three.

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Speaker 2: Harrison neighbors are Donza. I don't think they get within

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Speaker 2: striking distance of any of them. Thomas, Mitchell, Leget, I

537
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: could even wrap my head around Xavier Worthy at twenty eight,

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00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: although he's very low on my list. He's lower then yeah, mconkie,

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00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: I could take two, even if he does not diversify

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00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: the Bills passing game, because to me, he's a Shakir klone.

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Speaker 1: All right, So you got the first three, you got

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00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior. I think we're all in agreement on that.

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00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: My next guy, I think is a d Mitchell. Then

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Speaker 1: it's Xavier Legette.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have le get six on my list, then Worthy.

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Speaker 1: Mccakeeyah, and then I take all conkey, then Worthy.

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00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: And I'm talking strictly fit for the Bills. That's why

548
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: mccaky's last, because he mimics what you already have. You

549
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: need to diversify the passing game, not be redundant with him.

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00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: And that's no knock on mccacky. I love him as

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00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: a player, yeah, and I think he's gonna have a

552
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: very successful career. And if the Bills draft him, I'm

553
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: not gonna be upset. But I don't know if he

554
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: diversifies the offense as much as some of the other guys.

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Speaker 1: I think you can probably stretch his envelope a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's not just a slot guy or whatever,

557
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's catching like that, we're watching him.

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00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: He's catching seventeen yard comebacks, you know. So that's that's

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00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: plenty deep enough. I like mconkey because of his I

560
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: like Ady Mitchell first because of his attributes and his

561
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: and his catch percentage he had one drop last year.

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Speaker 1: And then I like McConkey for the same reason. I

563
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: think he gets open and he catches everything. There you

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Speaker 1: have it. I mean, those are the two guys after

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior and I would put and I put

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Speaker 1: Xavier Legett in there because of his traits, but his

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00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: catch radius is just okay, his catch rate, So that's it.

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Speaker 1: It's I'd take any of those three, Mconkeye, Legette or

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Speaker 1: ad Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: Where do you come down on Worthy.

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Speaker 1: After all three of those guys. Yeah, I mean he's

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be a good player, has a chance to

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00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: be a really good player. But I think he's limited

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Speaker 1: because of his weight. He you know, he's You've got

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Speaker 1: guys who wear equipment the way more than he does,

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Speaker 1: you know, so wait in it one sixty five. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's it's really little. I can't I can't tell you

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00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: what a what a battle it is for a guy

579
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: who's forget about being strong and tough, for being light.

580
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: He won't break tackles. It's just not gonna happen. Guys,

581
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: do one arm curls with him? You know he's just

582
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: not gonna break that grip.

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00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get it, I get it. We have to

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00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: step aside and take a break here. But your phone

585
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: calls are next when we return, because we want to

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Speaker 2: know who is the last wide receiver you'd be comfortable

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00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: taking with pick twenty eight. If you were the Bills

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00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five point fifty one eighty eight,

589
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifty, then I'm gonna get on board.

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00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: Got some open lines for you. But we'll get to

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00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: your phone calls when we return. Here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Colid of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All

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Speaker 2: right back here. I want to live And there is

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Speaker 2: more breaking receiver news in the NFL. The Baltimore Ravens

595
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: has just announced they have extended the contract of their

596
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: former first round pick, where Shad Bateman. It is a

597
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: three year extension for him runs through the twenty twenty

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00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: six season. No numbers yet, be interesting to see what

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00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: those are. In the wake of the aman Ra Saint

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00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: Brown deal that went four for one hundred and twenty

601
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: million dollars, the receiver market is literally exploding.

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00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: It. It stands to reason that's I always think about,

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00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: how do we get to this point because this may

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Speaker 1: be the first draft. We talked about it yesterday real

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00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: quick that there won't be a running back taken in

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00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: the first round, maybe the first time in decades. Right,

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00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: it's at the lower levels of football. Guys are choosing positions,

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00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: and some of it goes into the stuff they see

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00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: as the most important players on TV. When they watch

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00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: nobody talking about running backs, they're talking about why it

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00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: makes the most money and who makes the most money.

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00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: When you get up to the top, when you start

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00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: talking about nil stuff at high school levels and where

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00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to next. At high school, some of

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00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: these guys are so gifted they can pick whatever, you know,

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00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: position they want. You got some of these guys that

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00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: have played both sides of the ball and both skill

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00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: positions and power positions, so they pick wherever they want

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Speaker 1: to play and start. All of a sudden, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have like nine, you know, nine guys coming out that

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00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: are all like six ' five run four threes, and

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Speaker 1: they're all playing wide receiver because that's where the money is.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones.

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00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: Exaggerating maybe a little bit.

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00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: Maybe, but not much. You get my point, not much.

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00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: Go into the phones here where we are asking you today,

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00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: who is the last wide receiver you'd feel comfortable taking

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00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: at pick twenty eight if you were the Bills. We

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Speaker 2: go to Jerry and Tonawanda to lead us off. What's

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Speaker 2: up Jerry?

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys. First off, I'd like to thank you on

632
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 5: behalf of everybody for getting us through the doll drums

633
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 5: of the off season thing. Yeah, you know, you guys

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00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 5: do a great job, now you know, Brownie, I'm pounding

635
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 5: the drum for Isaiah Davis out of South Dakota State, sixt' one,

636
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 5: two twenty. He's compared to Tony Dorsett, He's averaged six

637
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 5: yards of pop. I believe he can make the team.

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00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 5: Maybe put him on special teams or whatever, or kick

639
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 5: kickoff returns or whatever. But I want to get him

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00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 5: in the fifth round. And then Cole was Nooski out

641
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 5: of North Dakota State, he's a safety. He's six four

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00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 5: two twenty maybe on drafted free agent or a six

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Speaker 5: or seventh rounder. And Jade and Yankee also out of

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00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 5: South Dakota State six three two ten uh four or

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00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 5: five speedster maybe as an arm restricted free agent. And

646
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 5: also you haven't heard this name, but I'm poundling the

647
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 5: drum for this guy if as an arm restricted free agent.

648
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 5: Easton Gibbs, linebacker six two two thirty led the team

649
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 5: in tackles. Where is he from? Wyoming? All right, so

650
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 5: I want to get him. And last, but not least,

651
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 5: I'd like to say, you got a lot of great callers.

652
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 5: And I don't call him that much, but I love

653
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 5: listening to every evening. He got some callers, you know,

654
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 5: it's like where you come from. But to me, the best,

655
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 5: the best football person with the most knowledge, the smartest

656
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 5: and the most intelligible and the educated is Judy from Buffalo,

657
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 5: and I think she's the best. I'd love to watch

658
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 5: a game, have some wings and if you pop with her,

659
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 5: I love when she calls in. And I'm sorry Mark

660
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 5: from with Seneca and Butch, but you just can't keep

661
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 5: up with her.

662
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: Big vote for Judy from Jerry Wow, we got we

663
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: got some caller love here. That's that's great. Jerry Charley

664
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: has his draft guide and has done nothing since January,

665
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: but watch YouTube highlight videos. If he is all the

666
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: way down to running back seventeen on my list, the

667
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: guy is a goner. Yeah, Jerry, I'm a little worried

668
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: about you.

669
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: Have a little moment of silence for Jerry, because he

670
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: is a goner.

671
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: You did not have if you did not have a

672
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: corrective lens prescription prior to all this college prospect film watching,

673
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: I will be willing to bet you do now.

674
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: Bless your heart.

675
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, day three, the guy is headlong into day three

676
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: and we haven't even put the Bears on the clock yet.

677
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: Jerry, Please, Jerry, come back to it. At least tell

678
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: me you're retired, that you're not you know.

679
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, From one Jerry to another, we go to Jerry

680
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: in Buffalo. What's up, Jerry?

681
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 6: Hey, good afternoon, guys, and thanks for taking the call.

682
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 6: My question is a little bit off topic, but it

683
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 6: does pertain to the draft and I've always been fascinated

684
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 6: and maybe you can help me understand. There's fifteen minutes

685
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 6: between picks in the first round and then I think

686
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 6: it's ten minutes in the subsequent round.

687
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, they actually reduced it. It's ten now in round one.

688
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 6: Okay, it makes it even more Yeah, it makes it

689
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 6: even more fascinating to me. And maybe you can help

690
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 6: me understand, and I'll lay out a scenario. I know that,

691
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 6: like for trades, there's some parameters that I'm sure set up.

692
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 6: Let's say, and if Brian Wilson isn't available at twenty eight,

693
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 6: this is what I'm kind of hoping happens. Anyway, say

694
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 6: at twenty eight, Penix is still on the board and

695
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 6: Brandon Bean's already talked to the Raiders and says, hey,

696
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 6: if he's still available, we might be interested. At that time,

697
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 6: I'm making the assumption that Bean says, hey, it's going

698
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 6: to take your number two and a number three or

699
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 6: whatever the deal may be. So that's in place. It

700
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 6: happens that Brian Wilson isn't there. Penix is still on

701
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 6: the board, so Bean knows he has a trade with

702
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 6: the Raiders, but within that ten minute time for him.

703
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 6: Now the Falcons call who I think pick one pick

704
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 6: before the Raiders and say, hey, we'll give you our

705
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 6: number two and three. Now it doesn't seem like there's

706
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 6: enough time for being to go back to the Raiders

707
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 6: and say, hey, I just got a better offer from Atlanta.

708
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 6: Can you can you up the offer? So how does

709
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 6: that work? I mean, just to me, it fascinates me

710
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 6: that all that can fall into place.

711
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: Here, here's the way I understand it. You're and I

712
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: may be wrong about this, but it's all done, and

713
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: now it's all done with technology. And inside the Bill's

714
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: war room they got like, well you've seen it. There's

715
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: fifteen people or twenty people in there. And I'll say this,

716
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: there are like four or five of those guys or

717
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: six or eight of those guys, are ten not all

718
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: whatever number that is that have live phone lines going

719
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: with other teams all the time, if not all the time,

720
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: at least a good portion of the time. And the

721
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: conversations you're talking about happening are starting to happen way

722
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: before it gets to twenty eight. They're starting to happen

723
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: at twenty three, twenty four to twenty So you got

724
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: like thirty minutes in a run up at least to

725
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: get that stuff lined up. And you've got an open

726
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: phone line to the Raiders. You got an open phone

727
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: line with at falcons and smart gms will just say listen, okay,

728
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: unless I get a better offer, you can have it

729
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: and we'll let you know in two seconds. And then

730
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: you do the deal with Atlanta. Then you go back

731
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: to the Raiders say hey, we got a better offer

732
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: and we went with it, and they got to be

733
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: willing to say, okay, you've got the technology available now,

734
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: the communications technology of the Internet and all that stuff

735
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: and the phone lines and makes it possible for these

736
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: coaches and these gms and the teams to have dialogues

737
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: very fluid all the time. And it sounds complicated, but

738
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: you know it. You got people who were relegated to

739
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: do it and they've got that line. So that's what happens.

740
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm just going to say.

741
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: As the lead journalist for Buffalo Bills dot com for

742
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 2: almost twenty years, I had the privilege of being in

743
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: the draft room on four separate occasions, including the year

744
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: they traded for JP Lossman and the year they traded

745
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: up for Sammy Watkins. So I witnessed firsthand how it

746
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: went and it got down to the wire on Watkins

747
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: because Doug Whaley, the GM at the time, was on

748
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: the phone with the GM for the Browns at the time,

749
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: Ray Farmer, and they had been going back and forth,

750
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: much to Steve's point, running up to the pick at

751
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: four and the Browns were on the clock and Whaley

752
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: had given him their best offer and he's expecting an

753
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: answer of yes or no from Farmer, And in the

754
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: middle of that conversation, another team calls and he tells Whaley,

755
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: I got to call you back. I will call you

756
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 2: in thirty seconds. There's less than five minutes on the

757
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: clock at this point in time, and that takes a

758
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: lot of doing too. Anyway, long story short, Farmer did

759
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: call him back, obviously, and they got the deal done.

760
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: But by the time he calls him back, now there's

761
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: three minutes on the clock. So not only do you

762
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: have to go over the exact terms of the trade again,

763
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: both teams then have to call the league executive and

764
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: tell him the terms of the trade. So it's official.

765
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: He entered and executed, and the draft order is flipped,

766
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 2: and then the Bills have to send the cart up

767
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: and that all had to happen in three minutes, and

768
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna tell you it was close. There was

769
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: under a minute on the clock when they got the

770
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: cart up after executing.

771
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: All of that.

772
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: It takes a well oiled machine and you do have

773
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: to delegate responsibility to get it executed, so it can

774
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 2: get tight and hairy at times, and that was one

775
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: example when it did.

776
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: It gets less and less so obviously because of the

777
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: time frame. You know, they got ten minutes now with

778
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: the technology, so ten minutes between picks, then it's five minutes,

779
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: and obviously it becomes less and less urgent the further

780
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: down the draft you go, because you've already had a

781
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: chance at this guy four times. He didn't want him.

782
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: You know, you got other guys, so you know it's

783
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: it's less urgent because of the quality of the prospects basically,

784
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: so they take less and less time.

785
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to take a break here, but more

786
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: of your phone calls when we come back. That means

787
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: Ben in Tonawanda, Patrick and Pennsylvania, Ryan and Toronto will

788
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 2: get to you when we return here. On one Bill's

789
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: lives a tuned who is the last wide receiver? You'd

790
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: take it? Pick twenty eight if you were the Bills?

791
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: Who makes you? Who's still who are you still comfortable with?

792
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: Taken there, let's say there's a run on receivers, you're

793
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: far down your list of favorites. Who's the last guy

794
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: at receiver you'd take a twenty eight and still feel

795
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: good about it For the bills. Let's go back to

796
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: the phones and to Ben in Tonawanda. What's up, Ben,

797
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: how's it going? Guys?

798
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: Good? Hey?

799
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, So Jerry from a little bit of Gooes got

800
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 7: me inspired. I think we're gonna need a draft board

801
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 7: ranking of frequent WDR callers. But now, on a serious note,

802
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 7: I would say, for me, Dave, you're worthy as probably

803
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 7: the last guy that I would take it twenty eight.

804
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 7: And the reason why is because for one, like you

805
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 7: guys said he's he's light, but it just something about

806
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 7: it gives me kind of strong John Ross vibes the

807
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 7: whole thing, you know, running the fastest forty at the combine.

808
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 7: People typically talk about this guy like he's gonna be

809
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 7: a gadget player, like he's going to take some development time,

810
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 7: and I just don't think I'm willing to deal with that.

811
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 7: In terms of the receiver talent as available in this draft. Honestly,

812
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 7: a guy like Lad McConkie, this is gonna sound a

813
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 7: little sacrilegious, but I grew up with Bills and a

814
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 7: Packers fan. My family lives out in Wisconsin, grew up

815
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 7: in Buffalo. But McConkie, he reminds me more of like

816
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 7: a Jordan Nelson than excuse me, Koli Skeer, and I

817
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 7: think you could do some cool things for this offense.

818
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 7: Me personally, I'd take Brian Thomas or xavierly Get first

819
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 7: for the obvious upside that the two of them have,

820
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 7: But I would love McConkey. But I think the worst

821
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 7: thing in terms of receiver that the Bills could do

822
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 7: is draft Davior Worthy. No shade to him. I hope

823
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 7: he turns out well, but you know that's kind of

824
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 7: where I'm at on the old whole receiver thing. So

825
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 7: interested to hear you guys think, I.

826
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: Mean, I'll play Devil's advocate on behalf of Worthy. He's

827
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: not my favorite either, but it's hard to deny his production,

828
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: which has been good since he walked onto campus in Austin.

829
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a freshman All American and first team

830
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: All Big Twelve and Big twelve Offensive Freshman of the

831
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: Year and led Texas in receiving his freshman year sixty

832
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: two catches nine hundred and eighty one yards twelve touchdowns.

833
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: The next year, sixty for seven sixty and nine touchdowns

834
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: led the team in receiving again. Then last year, with

835
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 2: ad Mitchell added to the roster, was the number one

836
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: target seventy five for oneenty fourteen five touchdowns. Now, look,

837
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 2: he's got knocks on him. He's got fifteen drops in

838
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: his career on one hundred and or two hundred and

839
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 2: something targets. But his drop rate isn't glaring. Uh, it's

840
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: his size, his size, and there are you know, is

841
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: he gonna be able to hold up? Because the Big

842
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: twelve is not a conference known for playing lights or

843
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: lights out defense. And I realized they're going to the

844
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 2: SEC next year, but wrapping up in the Big twelve.

845
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, for me, there are concerns about his slight build.

846
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 2: You're not playing thirteen fourteen games anymore, You're playing seventeen,

847
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: and you're playing much bigger, much more physical corners. Can

848
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: you get off press against a physical corner like you know,

849
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: a Jalen Ramsey or a patzer Tan, I don't know,

850
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: that's the question, and those are the concerns.

851
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say this too, Jordan, He's atlat McConkie's no

852
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: Jordan Nelson. Jordan Nelson was a big dude.

853
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 4: It was like six three one, yeah, he was, and

854
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: he was he was off the conky's under six foot. Yeah.

855
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: He was an off the char kind of athlete too.

856
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: He had some traits that McConkie doesn't have. Now, McConkie

857
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: is a really good player. I think I think he

858
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: could have if you're talking about a guy like Jordy Nelson,

859
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: who played for eight or nine eight nine years in

860
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: the in the NFL, and he had a season also

861
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: for Oakland. He had a cup of coffee with Oakland.

862
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, listen, I could do a lot worse than

863
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy or a Lad mcconne. That's right, Lad McConkie.

864
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: You know, he may chop one of his little fingers

865
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: off to have a career like Jordy Nelson. But I like,

866
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying there. Jordy Nelson could scoot.

867
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: He was big dude, and he had some problems. So

868
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: there are different guys. I'm with you, though, I don't

869
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: want a guy like an Xavier Worthy at where It's

870
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 1: like Isaiah mackenzie was for the Bills. He'd showed flashes

871
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: and all this.

872
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: But you know, I think he's got outside receiver ability,

873
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: though he different.

874
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: I think Lad McConkie is more of that. I think

875
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: he's more of a down and distant guy than a

876
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: gadget guy Maconkey is.

877
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think Worthy can line up outside. He

878
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: did it at Texas.

879
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think so. Let me say that.

880
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: That's where you and I disagree. I don't think he can.

881
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: I don't think he I don't like they're gonna put

882
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: a guy on his face and with one hand, that

883
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: guy's gonna hold him at the line of scrimmage. I

884
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: just don't think he's.

885
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: That is a concern for me.

886
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: Now, Worthy can outrun people, but he's not gonna run

887
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: through anybody. And a dB will just step in front

888
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: of him every chance he gets, and Worthy's not gonna

889
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: be able to move him. I think that's gonna be

890
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: a real issue for him. I don't think he's I

891
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: think he's going to really struggle to get on the

892
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: field outside playing on a corner that's standing, you know,

893
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: two feet away from him. Yeah, that's the question mark.

894
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: And then and obviously it is because BROWNI and I

895
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: don't agree on it. I mean, that's it. It's hard

896
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 1: to answer until you see.

897
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: It, right. Uh, let's go to Patrick in Pennsylvania next.

898
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 2: What's up? Patrick?

899
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 8: Hey, Chris Hey, Steve, thanks a lot to take my call.

900
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 8: I really appreciate it, insight. But to answer the question,

901
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 8: you guys have going here. So one book that I

902
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 8: look at here just for lines like this, they have

903
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 8: it said at six and a half wide receivers in

904
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 8: the first round currently you know over under, So whether

905
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 8: you think it's gonna be under six or gonna go

906
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 8: to seven. Basically they have the big three, and then

907
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 8: they have Donnie Mitchell at twenty seven and a half

908
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 8: draft positions and then Brian Thomas Junior at seventeen and

909
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 8: a half. And I think those guys were absolute locked

910
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 8: obviously for the first round, and I think we'll probably

911
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 8: have to trade up for either one of those two myself.

912
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 8: And then they have you know, Worthy at thirty one

913
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 8: and a half, and then McConkey is still squeaking into

914
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 8: the first round at thirty two and a half. I

915
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 8: would Worthy is my cutoff personally, you know, for where

916
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 8: we're selecting without moving I would be all right with

917
00:48:54,880 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 8: taking Xavier Laguette at Pit twenty eight strictly just because

918
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 8: of the measurables. I would be okay with a small

919
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 8: reach like that myself, and I do like Lad McConkie.

920
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 8: Don't get me wrong, right, but I would rather a

921
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 8: small perhaps trade down and then acquire him if that

922
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 8: were the case. But Worthy, Lagette or my last two

923
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 8: first round options, and I just think we're really going

924
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 8: to see receivers flap the boards in this first round. Personally,

925
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 8: even teams that might not be chalking up to take

926
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 8: in receivers. I think might even take some of these

927
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 8: guys just to have them. You know, if you see

928
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 8: Worthy go to the forty nine ers or Rams, I

929
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 8: think that would be a problem for the league. But

930
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 8: I just really think, you know, we need to get

931
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 8: a guy with plus plus plus measurables for Allan to

932
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 8: throw it to. I mean, fun Diggs his best receiver,

933
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 8: you know, throughout his tenure. I mean even he didn't

934
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 8: test really off the charts when he come out. I

935
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 8: think he run in the high four fours in the

936
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 8: forty which is pretty good, but he didn't jump through

937
00:49:55,040 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 8: the roof, you know, he didn't really have crazy breakaway speed. Know,

938
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 8: we really just haven't done Josh many favors as far

939
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 8: as getting guys with plus plus attributes for him to

940
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 8: throw it to. I'd rather stay at twenty eight and

941
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 8: take you know, Worthy, maybe a d Mitchell if he

942
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 8: falls there, and then trade back up to the top

943
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 8: to round two and get a Pearsol or a Jay

944
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 8: von Baker, keonk Coleman, even get two guys you know

945
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 8: you're not sure about Worthy, at least get him at

946
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 8: twenty eight and then trade up for a guy you

947
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 8: might be a little more sure on that you think

948
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 8: might be there till round two.

949
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did it.

950
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: Patrick.

951
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: Sorry we got to jump here because we're up against

952
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: the clock. But I get what you're saying. I would

953
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 2: say this, though, if you're okay with Worthy, I think

954
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: you kind of contradicted yourself a little bit. You want

955
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean to get Josh Allen somebody with elite physical traits.

956
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: His only elite trade is his speed, and believe me,

957
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: that's a great trade to have, but that's about it

958
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 2: with him. I would argue that a player like Legette

959
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: has more elite physical traits because he runs almost as

960
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: fast and is six one two and twenty one pounds

961
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: and can box about any defender in the league out

962
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: of the way for the football. So if you're looking

963
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 2: for elite physical traits, Worthy doesn't have as many as

964
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 2: xavierly Get. He doesn't have as many as a d

965
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: Mitchell right, So that's the rub for a lot of

966
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: people there at twenty eight.

967
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm we can we can take a break here.

968
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: Mattie's coming on with the with the uh mock draft

969
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: stuff and some of this that I'm going to talk

970
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: about in relation to what you know, Bene just said,

971
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: I can wait till then. It has to do with

972
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,479
Speaker 1: you know, teams taking players just to draftman, It's yeah,

973
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: it's it's another step in this process we've got to

974
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: go through. But uh wait till after the break.

975
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think people in the first round are

976
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: going to be more crazy for offensive tackles than they

977
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: are wide receivers. I think that's gonna happen, and it's

978
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 2: gonna happen earlier than the wide receiver position. Break time

979
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: for us when we come back. Our colleague Mattic Lab

980
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 2: joins us for the final mock draft. Watch tabulations prior

981
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 2: to the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. We'll get all

982
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: the results when we return here on One Bill's Live,

983
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 2: presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

984
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Kaleida Health.

985
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 2: All right, second hour of the show here on a Wednesday.

986
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 2: As we are just over twenty four hours away from

987
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four NFL Draft, high is running out,

988
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: so we had to get Maddie glab on for the

989
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: final mock draft watch final count. All the tabulations have

990
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: been made. Nice reference to Europe there by the way.

991
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 2: All the tabulations have been made, All the mock drafts

992
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 2: have been tracked in. If there are any more after this,

993
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: too bad. Maddie is done.

994
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: It's no more. We just had a guy call in

995
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: and he was talking about, you know, getting one of

996
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: these guys, and he thought he made the statement that

997
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: caught my eye. He said, let's one of these teams

998
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: up there is going to draft one of the guys

999
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: just to have a guy. And it brought to mind

1000
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: that all these teams, just like the Bills, like to

1001
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: get which I don't know if we're all on board

1002
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: with him being there this year because we're talking wide receiver.

1003
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: They want to take the best player no matter what position.

1004
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: They want their roster to be so filled out already

1005
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: they can take the best player. Well okay, but not

1006
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: all of them are.

1007
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 9: Nope, And when you look at positions and groups, not

1008
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 9: all of them are either. Because you want to be

1009
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 9: drafting a player in the first round who makes sense

1010
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 9: financially for your team. Think about the Bills and their

1011
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 9: salary cap. Think about what they could save if they

1012
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 9: draft a wide receiver with that twenty eighth overall pick,

1013
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 9: or if they move up in the draft to draft

1014
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 9: a wide receiver.

1015
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about money positions. Quarterbacks of course, and

1016
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: they're at the top of this draft. Offensive tackles. The

1017
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: draft is really top heavy and a lot of really

1018
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 1: quality offensive linemen wide receivers. Big draft for wide receivers,

1019
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: maybe the biggest we've ever seen. And the other one

1020
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: is edge rushers. Now, this one's not as thick in

1021
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: edge rushers as most drafts. But when you're talking if

1022
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the best player available, not only that, you

1023
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: want to do it economically as well. So you want

1024
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: to get these money players. Who's gonna who are gonna

1025
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: outperform their rookie contracts dur in their first four years,

1026
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 1: and a draft where you're rich in those guys.

1027
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 9: We saw what Aman Ross Saint Brown went for today

1028
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 9: and what the wide receiver market is going to be

1029
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 9: for players like Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. Think about

1030
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 9: drafting wide receiver and at what that saves you for

1031
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 9: the first four to five years.

1032
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: A lot of.

1033
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 9: Money and that number is just going to go up

1034
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 9: on wide receivers. Should we talk about the numbers?

1035
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to. Let's just lay it out when

1036
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: all was said and done. I mean, I think we

1037
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 2: can guess what the most popular position was, but you

1038
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 2: went top three, So let's hear how that shook out.

1039
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: With all the mocks.

1040
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 9: Tracked one hundred and forty seven total mock draft starting

1041
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 9: at the end of January. I am so happy to

1042
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 9: be done, although I loved my time doing it. Wide

1043
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 9: receiver is number one. One hundred and fifteen times wide

1044
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 9: receiver was mocked to Buffalo. That's seventy eight percent of

1045
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 9: the mock drafts tracked. Number two. Defensive line seventeen times

1046
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 9: defensive line was mocked to Buffalo. That's twelve percent and

1047
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 9: coming in third defensive back ten times, so seven percent, okay?

1048
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 2: And I saw that you all so tracked how many

1049
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 2: times there were trade ups for a wide receiver and

1050
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: I got him.

1051
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 9: Were you surprised?

1052
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: I thought the number was gonna be higher? Me too,

1053
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: So what is the number of trade ups?

1054
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 9: Twelve times a mock draft had us trading up for

1055
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 9: a wide receiver. Fourteen total times we traded up. Two

1056
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 9: of those fourteen times were for a defensive lineman, so

1057
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 9: there were fourteen total trade ups. Twelve of those trade

1058
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 9: ups were for a wide receiver. Two of those were

1059
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 9: for a defensive lineman. One was lieout too, law too,

1060
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 9: and I think another one is Byron Murphy.

1061
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: And I guess, as I think about it now, knowing

1062
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: the Digs trade happened so late in the game, I

1063
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 2: think a lot of people had us taking a receiver.

1064
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: But then after the Digs trade happened, people are like,

1065
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 2: they got a trade up to get a receiver now,

1066
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: And that didn't really happen until March. So maybe that

1067
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 2: maybe that's why the number was so small.

1068
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 9: We saw most of the trade ups happening in April.

1069
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've had a shift in names as well,

1070
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: because as we the knowledge out and we start to

1071
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: get opinions about where teams are thinking. And now you

1072
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: start getting pro days forty times and it's all the

1073
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: hay is in the barn, and you've got all the

1074
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: information you're gonna get.

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00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 2: Now.

1076
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: In the last week, I didn't know A. D. Mitchell

1077
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: was a diabetic, right, we didn't know Brian Thomas Junior

1078
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: had a shoulder. You know, all this stuff.

1079
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 9: The last minute details are coming out on these Now

1080
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 9: these guys have gotten oh my gosh, they've got some wartz.

1081
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: So now how does that change? Has it changed things?

1082
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: Very much?

1083
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 9: What I've seen in the last two days, there's been

1084
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 9: let's say eight to ten mock drafts. Ady Mitchell is

1085
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 9: still getting mocked to Buffalo. Brian Thomas Junior is still

1086
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 9: getting mock to Buffalo. A name that I've seen pop

1087
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 9: up a couple times more frequently than in the past,

1088
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 9: Xavier Worthy going to the Bills at number twenty eight.

1089
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: Now, when those mocks come out, do you think Xavier

1090
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: Worthy's coming to Buffalo because Brian Thomas and Ady Mitchell

1091
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: are gone.

1092
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 9: Yes, I have seen mock drafts with Brian Thomas Junior

1093
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 9: going in the eight to ten range and eighty Mitchell

1094
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 9: going in the teens.

1095
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 10: Now.

1096
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 9: I've only seen two of those mock draft drafts that

1097
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 9: we have tracked, but Brian Thomas Junior seems to be

1098
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 9: going in the teen's range in quite a few mock

1099
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 9: drafts now, so he could be off the board by

1100
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 9: number twenty eight. I'm starting to think that if Buffalo

1101
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 9: wants to go get Brian Thomas Junior, they're going to

1102
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 9: have to go trade up and get him. What is

1103
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 9: that perfect number? Is it after fifteen? Is it eighteen?

1104
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 9: That they'd be willing to move up to it with

1105
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 9: them if they believe that is their guy.

1106
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the cost is a little too rich

1107
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: for Brandon Bean's blood above fifteen, because you're talking the

1108
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 2: first half of the round and you got a part

1109
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: with a lot of capital to do that. That's why

1110
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: I'm convinced if if somehow, some way Brian Thomas gets

1111
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: past fifteen, which could happen, I mean, you could have

1112
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: a run on tackles. The quarterback market could be stupid

1113
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: in the top ten, like crazy stupid, like five quarterbacks

1114
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 2: in the first twelve or whatever. That helps the bills.

1115
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: And so if you have that, you have a run

1116
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 2: on tackles, and Indianapolis needs cornerback help. Let's not forget that,

1117
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: and they could get the best corner in the draft

1118
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: at fifteen. Potentially he gets past fifteen. I think Brandon

1119
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: Bean's on.

1120
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: The phone with Brownie's been saying that for a while. Now.

1121
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: If you get past fifteen, you start looking at teams,

1122
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: and you know, if you know a team or you

1123
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: think a team like a Cincinnati is gonna take, they're

1124
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: gonna take an offensive lineman because they got all the

1125
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: wide receivers they could ever possibly want. So if you

1126
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 1: get to Cincinnati, they could at eighteen, you may get

1127
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: the first or second or third offensive tackle off the board.

1128
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: At eighteen, you can drop back and take the fifth

1129
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: or sixth offensive tackle and still be plugged in for

1130
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: a decade with that guy in this draft.

1131
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 9: Daniel Jeremiah tweeted today to summarize my last five phone calls.

1132
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 9: Everyone is moving up for an offensive tackle. It's gonna

1133
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 9: be noth This might be great for teams who want

1134
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 9: a wide receiver. You may see couple guys fall and

1135
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 9: in a few mock drafts I've seen, I've seen odoonse

1136
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 9: fall beyond ten because of the tackles and the quarterbacks

1137
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 9: that are going off the board in the first ten.

1138
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: Pence And there have been some mocks that has Brian

1139
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 2: Thomas to the Bills at twenty eight, yes, which I

1140
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: don't know if that's gonna happen, but the fact that

1141
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: people are thinking it's even possible is surprising enough. But

1142
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 2: I think it speaks to all the uncertainty of what

1143
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 2: could happen in the top ten, either because teams are

1144
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 2: getting quarterback antsy or teams are getting offensive tackle antsy.

1145
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 2: Between the ranges of like ten and fifteen. I think

1146
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 2: that's really where the run on tackles is gonna happen.

1147
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: We all believe Tennessee's taking one at seven and then okay,

1148
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: receiver here, pass rusher there, maybe a quarterback or two,

1149
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 2: twelve and thirteen. But then after that people are just

1150
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: gonna go cuckoo for coco pups on offensive tackles after

1151
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 2: that that could help the Bill.

1152
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: The more we talk about and you know we've been

1153
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: obviously we've been talking about it since March, I think

1154
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: they are probably going to set a record for the

1155
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: most offensive players taken in the first round of the draft.

1156
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: There's the record's nineteen and twenty is it seems like

1157
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: as I don't think there's ten defensive guys I can

1158
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: name in this draft, not for round one at every position.

1159
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: There may be ten at every position, let alone the

1160
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: nick corners and all that, the money spots, the edge

1161
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: rushers and stuff. It'll be interesting to see how far

1162
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: down we have to go to get a defender taken.

1163
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 9: If eight offensive tackles, let's just say offensive lineman, that's

1164
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 9: gonna happen taken in the first round. When you factor

1165
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 9: in the interior offensive lineman, that.

1166
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: Could go off the board Barton Jackson.

1167
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 9: Five quarterbacks, and seven wide receivers, you get to twenty twenty.

1168
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: They overrun.

1169
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: I told them the Bowers is in there, so you're

1170
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: a twenty one Byron Murphy. The defensive from Texas is

1171
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: in there that now you're twenty two. Yeah, you know,

1172
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: I think, I really I don't know why. It's just

1173
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: this gut feeling gonna go Nutso for offensive tackles between

1174
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: like ten and sixteen seventeen.

1175
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: And that's without and let me we'll say it again,

1176
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: that's without a single running back being taken right in

1177
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: the first round not even projected to be taken.

1178
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 9: Not happening this season, Maddie.

1179
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: The one other thing that I know you tracked were

1180
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 2: how the names changed month by month, you know, from

1181
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: February to March to April, in terms of who was

1182
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: the favorite receiver name as we went through the process.

1183
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 2: We didn't cover this or.

1184
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 9: Any No, we haven't talked about it yet.

1185
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: So let's go month by month. Tell us the most

1186
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: popular name as we moved from February to March to

1187
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: this month April. Ye.

1188
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 9: I like tracking this because it's fun to see trends,

1189
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 9: especially when you're a team looking for possibly multiple positions

1190
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 9: with your first pick. You can really see how trends

1191
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 9: take shape and form over the core of a few months.

1192
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 9: So in February I tracked thirty two mock drafts. Brian

1193
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 9: Thomas Junior was the favorite, being mocked to Buffalo thirteen times.

1194
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 9: At number two, Kean Coleman mock to Buffalo seven times.

1195
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 9: Number three was Troy Franklin mocked to Buffalo seven times.

1196
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 9: Troy Franklin kind of dropped off of a cliff after February.

1197
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 9: He no longer was one of the top wide receivers,

1198
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 9: being mocked to the Bills. So in March I tracked

1199
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 9: forty two. Number one Adni Mitchell being mocked to the

1200
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 9: Bills fourteen times. Number two Brian Thomas Junior seven times.

1201
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,919
Speaker 9: Ad Ni Mitchell stayed the favorite. In April, fifty nine

1202
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 9: mock drafts tracked Adani Mitchell mocked to the Bills twenty

1203
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 9: two times. Number two was Brian Thomas Junior thirteen times.

1204
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 9: Number three Xavier Worthy seven times.

1205
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: So the popularity of Mitchell in April is what helped

1206
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: him pass Brian Thomas for the overall most popular prospect. Yeah,

1207
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 2: because he only beat him by three by three selections

1208
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 2: to the Bills thirty nine through thirty six, So he

1209
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: doesn't have that big April that that doesn't.

1210
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 9: Happen twenty two to thirteen. In April, it seemed like

1211
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 9: every other mock draft at Ni Mitchell was heading to

1212
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 9: the Bills.

1213
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: April was win forgeting. April's when the combine took place

1214
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: and they got everything.

1215
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:16,919
Speaker 2: Well, it's after the combine.

1216
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: Everybody there days right, Everybody got a chance to see

1217
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: the guy and start talking to people about it.

1218
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: Thomas had a good workout too, but Mitchell jumped out

1219
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: of it.

1220
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's why Brian Thomas went downs because

1221
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: he was gone in most of the drafts.

1222
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 2: Well, yes, that's true, you.

1223
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. So that's that's the thing, Ady Mitchell.

1224
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: I think it intersected with Buffalo's need and the number

1225
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: at twenty eight and the ascension of Brian Thomas Junior

1226
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: and other players up to that point, and ad got better,

1227
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, so it got in the first round and.

1228
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 9: A few mock drafts. We also are moving up to

1229
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 9: go grab Ady Mitchell. Do you guys believe that could

1230
01:04:58,480 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 9: happen tomorrow night?

1231
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 2: I think yeah. I don't think you'd have to move

1232
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: as far. So let's just say the Bills can't get

1233
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 2: up to where they want to to get Brian Thomas,

1234
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: they can't get a deal done. Now it becomes an

1235
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 2: exercise in where do you have to go to get Mitchell?

1236
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 2: And I think it's hard to determine where that would be.

1237
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,479
Speaker 2: But I think Philadelphia could be a candidate at twenty two.

1238
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 2: I don't think the Dolphins help you at twenty one.

1239
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 2: I don't think the Steelers help you at twenty and

1240
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 2: then you're down after that to you know, twenty three,

1241
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 2: twenty four. They've done trades with Dallas before twenty four,

1242
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: but you could argue that Dallas may be looking for

1243
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 2: one of those tackles, and if the run has already

1244
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 2: happened and the value stinks, maybe you can get them

1245
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: to move out of there, you know, if they're wanting

1246
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: to get an offensive tackle a little bit later and

1247
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: slide back four spots, and then you have the Bucks

1248
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 2: at twenty six. I want to say, so there's a team.

1249
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: The problem is you could easily see the Bucks taking

1250
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 2: a receiver. They're going to need an air apparent to

1251
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: Mike Evans, who's not going to do it forever and

1252
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 2: is entering is eleventh season in the league. So yeah,

1253
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: I think a smaller move to get ad especially thinking

1254
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 2: the next last guy that you got on your board, get.

1255
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: Them Minnesota is a great spot, except the fact that

1256
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: Minnesota's also.

1257
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: Got that pick by the time.

1258
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got eleven and twenty three and they need

1259
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: a quarterback.

1260
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,959
Speaker 2: No, you might have that pick by then New England.

1261
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: That's right, or or Arizona. Yeah, so yeah.

1262
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: That's actually if it's Arizona, you might be able to

1263
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: get him to move because they also have the twenty

1264
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 2: seventh pick, so you might get Arizona to slide back

1265
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 2: to you. Now they have twenty seven and twenty eight.

1266
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 2: That's what they could do with that. So if you

1267
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 2: want one of those teams to trade down into that

1268
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: pick at twenty three and it's not Minnesota, you'd rather

1269
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 2: have it be Arizona than New England.

1270
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: Unless Minnesota trades twenty three and eleven to Arizona and

1271
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: Arizona takes both those from them.

1272
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1273
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: Now Arizona's got like four first round picks.

1274
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: Well, they have twenty and they would have eleven and

1275
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 2: twenty three.

1276
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have three first round picks.

1277
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 2: Wow, so they would be apt to slide back a

1278
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 2: little bit and get even more draft capital later conceivably.

1279
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: But you're gonna pay three first rounders. That's tough too.

1280
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 2: Don't forget what to do. But you know, that's just

1281
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 2: why the draft is amazing.

1282
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's awesome. Yeah, so, but I can't

1283
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: get we started this thing and I get back to it.

1284
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: They you know, you got to take the best player available,

1285
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: but there's so much in that right. Certainly there's the

1286
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: best taking the best all around guard who's gonna play

1287
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: for ten years and be your guy. Or a wide

1288
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Speaker 1: receiver is gonna play for ten years and be your guy.

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Speaker 1: The wide receiver is probably gonna have more game breaking

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Speaker 1: plays during a career than a guard will. Right, So

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Speaker 1: there's money positions. There's wide receiver, quarterback, edge rusher, and offensive.

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Speaker 9: Tackle, and there's a hole on the roster for wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Now, the Bills, I don't think any of us are

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Speaker 1: in the spot where we've been in the last few

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Speaker 1: years where Bill could take anybody. I don't think there is.

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Speaker 1: They don't have that luxury this year. I think this

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Speaker 1: is a draft where they've got a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a positional emergency.

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Speaker 2: Let's say, disaster strikes and the value at receiver has

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Speaker 2: completely been blown to smithereens. Give us the defensive names

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Speaker 2: most mocked to the Bills, Maddie. If it's not a receiver,

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Speaker 2: who do most people target for the Bills On the

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Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 9: Aside from wide receivers. The top two defensive players mocked

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Speaker 9: to the Bills at number twenty eight defensive tackle Johnny

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Speaker 9: Newton out of Illinois. He was mocked to the Bills

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Speaker 9: seven times. In defensive back Cooper Dejene out of Iowa

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Speaker 9: was mocked to the Bills five times. I could see

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Speaker 9: both of those names happening for Buffalo if the run

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Speaker 9: on wide receivers has already happened.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't have a problem with him

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Speaker 1: taking an edge guy or a defensive tackle. I think

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Speaker 1: that's more likely. I don't see him taking a safety

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Speaker 1: in the first round. I just don't see that being

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Speaker 1: that position being that big a priority with any safety

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Speaker 1: in the draft, let alone Cooper dejene or anybody else,

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Speaker 1: I just can't see that.

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Speaker 2: Well, to your point that you just made earlier about

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Speaker 2: positional emergency and needing to fill a role, your first

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Speaker 2: round pick is a guy you want on the field

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01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: right away. Not that the Bills have always subscribed to

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01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 2: that with first round picks in the past, but Dalton,

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01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 2: k and Kay got on the field right away, and

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Speaker 2: I think if you land a receiver, you kind of

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01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 2: want the same kind of path for him as Kinkad

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Speaker 2: had last year on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: That's harder to justify because Johnny Newton would be ed

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Speaker 2: Oliver's beckup exactly fifteen to twenty snaps a game, and

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Speaker 2: Cooper Degene, whether you play him at corner or you

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Speaker 2: play him at safety. Is he unseating Rasul Douglas or

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01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: Christian Benford or even Tailor rap at strong safety.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that he is, right. So it might

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Speaker 2: be just as much an exercise of finding a guy

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Speaker 2: that we can get on the field to help our roster,

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Speaker 2: which I think has had its greatest veteran turnover in

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01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,759
Speaker 2: the Bean McDermott era. Yes, you got to get somebody

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Speaker 2: that's gonna play for you too, And if it's at

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Speaker 2: those two positions, I agree with you. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if he's getting on the field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm I'm right unless he's unless he turns

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Speaker 1: out to be better than what he looks like, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, yeah, that could happen. I'm totally with you.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a this is a wide receiver

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01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: or bust year for the Bills. I wouldn't be surprised

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01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: if they trade back, and people really excited if they

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Speaker 1: trade back.

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Speaker 9: If they don't have any wide receivers they like, it

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Speaker 9: makes sense and get.

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Speaker 2: Two of them, yeah, pick up a three.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, or take one at one at thirty eight

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Speaker 1: and one at sixty and.

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Speaker 2: Then then whatever else you need in the third, then in.

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Speaker 1: The back then you get that third round or for

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01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: trading back and defense, and you get a Yeah, you

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01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: start diversifying then, but get two guys with some traits

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Speaker 1: and some qualities that you like. At the top of

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Speaker 1: the draft, the.

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Speaker 2: Bills draft two receivers with their first two picks. People

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Speaker 2: are going to be going.

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Speaker 1: Gaga and Brownie's going to be doing.

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Speaker 2: They're going to have a parade.

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01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: Brownie's going to be carrying a Bill's flag running last

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Speaker 1: I will.

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Speaker 2: I already committed to that. If our first two picks

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Speaker 2: are receivers, I will run a lap around this facility.

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Speaker 2: You can give me a flag, you can give me

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01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 2: a silly hat. I don't care. I will do it.

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Speaker 9: We released an article on Buffalo bills dot com this morning,

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Speaker 9: top seven storylines to follow ahead of the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 9: One of the things that I asked NFL network Cynthia

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Speaker 9: Freeland and CBS Sports draft analyst Chris Trapasso was could

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Speaker 9: you see Buffalo going back to back wide receiver. If

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01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 9: you do, do you like that or are you against that?

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01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 9: Both of them said I loved what Brandon Bean did

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01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 9: When Greg Russo and Boogie Basham got drafted in the

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Speaker 9: first round and the second round back to back defensive

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01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 9: lineman going off the board to Buffalo. They said they

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Speaker 9: would also love to see that for the Bills in

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01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 9: this year's draft, because you double your chances, will double

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Speaker 9: your chances.

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Speaker 2: In that same draft, they went back to back at

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01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 2: offensive tackle Tommy Doyle. Tommy Doyle. Yeah, so it's not

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Speaker 2: something that would be unprecedented for the Bills.

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: To think about it. They got three really solid players

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01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 1: out of that those four guys. Tommy Doyle is still

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01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: on the team, but he's been injured and injured. But

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01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown had had a really his best years a

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01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: pro last year at right tackle, and Greg Russeau Boogie

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01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: Basham have been like plug and play they have taken

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01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: Greg Russeau has really emerged. I mean that guy, you

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Speaker 1: can't get him off the field in a team that rotates.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's always out there and he's been available too.

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Speaker 1: That's been huge. So they got it right when they

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01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: did it. I'd love to see him get it right

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Speaker 1: at wide receiver the same way.

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Speaker 9: Guys we've talked about wide receivers, we've talked about prospects

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01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 9: We've watched the tape, We've studied the numbers. Is there

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Speaker 9: a wide receiver that you guys have fallen in love

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Speaker 9: with that you would love to see on this team.

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01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 2: It's interesting say that, Maddie. We're gonna have to hold

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01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 2: that because that is.

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Speaker 9: For okay, favorite guy that will be revealed tomorrow, tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow show. Okay, So that's what we will do.

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01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 9: We're not giving up any info right now.

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01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 2: Great minds taking like you're on the right track, matt

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01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 2: Today we will have to hold those and disclosed.

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01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: We're going to have you write yours down a piece

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01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: of paper and seal it in an envelope. That's right,

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01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: we'll open Yeah, don't tell us what it is.

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Speaker 2: But Mattie, thanks for all the market draft watch help,

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01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 2: all pre draft seasons. We're glad you finally get a

1413
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 2: break on this. Your eyes won't blaze, are you?

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01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: It had to be kind of like ho hum because

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01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: everybody's picking us to take a wide out, you know,

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01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: So was it more fun last year when they, you know,

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01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: we were all a.

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01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 9: Little more area last year. I looked back at last

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01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 9: year to count the number of prospects, different names that

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01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 9: got mocked to us it was in the forties, because

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01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 9: if you remember last year's draft class, people had a

1422
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 9: slew of different grades of so many different guys that

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01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 9: could be drafted in the first round versus this year.

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01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 9: It's not that it's not it's not as deep as

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01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 9: it was last year. In terms of the grades that

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01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 9: people had on people. We had like twenty something different

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01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 9: prospects be mocked to the Bills at number twenty eight

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01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 9: or within the range of the twenties. So I enjoyed

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01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:42,560
Speaker 9: seeing all the wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: I think this draft is more like the draft two

1431
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 2: years ago when everybody under the sun said we needed

1432
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 2: a corner.

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01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 9: Kyer Elam was a favorite name at the at the end.

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01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 2: And we made a little jump up to get him.

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Speaker 2: Didn't that happen again this year for a receiver.

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Speaker 1: I think that is the that is the template that

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01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 1: we're working with right now. I think it's gonna they're

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01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: going to trade up into the mid twenties and take

1439
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: I got where they can land the guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Maddie, Thanks as always, Maddie and I,

1441
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 2: by the way, we'll be doing a live stream on

1442
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 2: the Bill's social channels right after the Bill's first round

1443
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 2: pick on Thursday night, So whether that pick is made

1444
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: at eight thirty pm or eleven thirty pm, Mattie and

1445
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: I will be kicking in a live stream immediately after

1446
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: the pick for reaction. We'll have Greg Cosell joining us

1447
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 2: as well for some analysis, and then obviously we'll go

1448
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 2: to Brandon Bean right after, presuming he gets down to

1449
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 2: the podium in short order for full wall to wall

1450
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 2: coverage after the pick is made, and then we'll do

1451
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 2: it again on Friday night after their second round pick.

1452
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 1: ELL's going on. I'm taking a weekend off.

1453
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 2: You guys work hard, so check out the Bill's YouTube

1454
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 2: channel all the other social channels. Maddie and I on

1455
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 2: be streaming live right after the Bills pick Thursday night. Yeah,

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01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 2: we take a break here, but we come back with

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01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 2: your phone calls next on One Bill's Live. Stay with

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Speaker 2: us all right. Back here on One Bill's Live on

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01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: a Wednesday day before the twenty twenty four NFL Draft,

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01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 2: we are asking you who is the last receiver on

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01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 2: your list you'd feel good about the Bills taking at

1462
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: pick twenty eight in the NFL Draft. Back to the

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Speaker 2: phones we go, and we got to rip through some

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01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 2: here so let's go to Elliott in Rochester next. What's

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01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 2: up Elliott.

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Speaker 10: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. So just taking

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01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 10: a look at the list. I just want to touch

1468
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 10: on a few things. I know Brownie and Steve, you

1469
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 10: both were concerned about Lad McConkie and Xavier Worthy of

1470
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 10: being able to line up out wide. They did line

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Speaker 10: up about two hundred to three hundred snaps out wide,

1472
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Speaker 10: significantly more than the slot. But I understand you're concerned

1473
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 10: with guys like Tyreek Hill being you know, press coverage

1474
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 10: about snead and not being able to do anything as

1475
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 10: one of the best receivers in the league. Certainly concern

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01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 10: unless the Bills were to get Worthy and use them

1477
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 10: in the motion kind of like a Dolphins table with

1478
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 10: Tyreek Hiller earlier in the year. You have to be

1479
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 10: able to create space for the guy to get off

1480
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,799
Speaker 10: the line. But to your point, with our we need

1481
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 10: a true X receiver, someone who can you know, get

1482
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 10: those jump balls downfield. H McConkie is similar in size

1483
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 10: to Digs, and Dig showed ability to do that. So

1484
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 10: but to keep you know, a long story short here,

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01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 10: I think it's between Brian Thomas Junior and ad Mitchell,

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01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 10: you kind of cut it off there. I don't even

1487
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 10: know if I were the GM if I would take

1488
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 10: mcconkiy or Worthy with the twenty eighth pick. So really

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01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 10: it's the top five. We're not going to be able

1490
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 10: to get any of the top three, so then it

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01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 10: really comes down to Thomas and Mitchell. Otherwise, I think

1492
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 10: we're kind of wasting the value of a first round pick,

1493
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 10: and we might be better served to get, you know,

1494
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 10: an edge rusher at the back of von Miller because

1495
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 10: he's going to need to be replaced here soon, and

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01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 10: then maybe even trade back, like you said, Von Baker

1497
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 10: or Jermaine Burton and combo. Those two guys roll the

1498
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 10: dice and hope we hit on one of them and lost.

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01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 10: The Bills are visiting with some guys like Ryan Flornoy,

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Speaker 10: like probably more sixth round, seventh round picks. I think

1501
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 10: there's a lot of these dark horse guys that that

1502
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 10: being he's got a backup plan for and you know,

1503
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 10: crazier things have happened. Look at Shakir, right, maybe the

1504
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 10: guy that ends up being the stud is the sixth rounder,

1505
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 10: a seventh rounder we pick at the end, and that's

1506
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 10: just the funniness of the NFL Draft sometimes, But thank

1507
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 10: you guys, looking forward to tomorrow and the rest of

1508
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 10: the show appreciate it.

1509
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 2: Thanks. Hell yeah, ir Rust Bend is another example of that.

1510
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's gonna be some of those guys in this draft,

1511
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: and this draft in particular at wide receivers. Somebody in

1512
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 1: like the third, second, fourth, fifth, whatever round is going

1513
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: to emerge as being like like Puka Nakula was last year.

1514
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna be like, Wow, who is this guy?

1515
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: And you know, hopefully you get one of those guys.

1516
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 1: But I'm totally with you, and that's exactly why we

1517
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 1: asked the question. You said, is a d Mitchell Brian

1518
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 1: Thomas Junior or you know what, let's trade.

1519
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 2: Out or take it and rusher if we're taking it, or.

1520
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: Take somebody else off the edge of the values. Right,

1521
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: that's it. I agree with you. I think that's where

1522
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm at as well. I don't go I know when your.

1523
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: Boil again, I think I'd be okay with him.

1524
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 1: If they take him, it's because they had a private

1525
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: workout with him, as if it's reported, and so they'll

1526
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: know and if they think he's worth that, I'll say, okay,

1527
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: I'll be happy with that too, because I don't think

1528
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: it's worth it right now for sitting where I am.

1529
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: But if they take him, it's because they know things

1530
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't, because they worked the guy out and know

1531
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: them and believe me, those workouts mean a lot. So

1532
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 1: if they take well, if they take anybody, I'm I'm

1533
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 1: good with it because they know more than I do.

1534
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 1: But sitting a million miles away, I don't know. Yeah,

1535
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. If i'd take Lagett.

1536
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mark in Jersey City next. What's up Mark?

1537
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 11: How do you doing? Gentlemen? Thanks taking my call? I

1538
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,759
Speaker 11: would take look at I don't want Casey getting ahold

1539
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 11: of him. I think they're going to take a tackle.

1540
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 11: I don't want worthy at all. I don't like those

1541
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 11: light and you know what types that run sub four

1542
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 11: three because the track record of those guys are Darius

1543
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 11: Hayward Bay and everybody just goes got guy. I remember

1544
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 11: Snoop dog like, I don't know who Nike signed him

1545
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 11: right after that he ran that and gave him a

1546
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 11: shoe deal and my god, the guys out of the leak,

1547
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 11: So no, thank you. If Miami wants him go ahead,

1548
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 11: take him build a track team. What did it get you?

1549
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 11: I just like Worthy. I see the Bills. They don't

1550
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 11: mind the slow burn, they don't mind the build up,

1551
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 11: they don't mind developing players. They don't you know, if

1552
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 11: you're looking for a receiver, it's going to come in

1553
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 11: step right away. McConkey. Josh thrives at those easy button guys.

1554
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 11: I mean, Diggs beasily, He's kind of a Digs Beasley

1555
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 11: like combo. But Lagett is just such a package that

1556
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 11: you don't get all the time. I just think he'd

1557
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 11: be too intriguing to pass up. And as far as

1558
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 11: nominating callers go, Bills went seven and one after the

1559
01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 11: toothless drunk from Lakawana. Could love Judy, but that's my vote.

1560
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 11: Thanks thinking guys, you got it.

1561
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,640
Speaker 2: I think the case that you make for Mark and

1562
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: Leget is what Bean's history is in round one. Outside

1563
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 2: of Ed Oliver ninth, overall, every first round pick he

1564
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 2: has made has been a player with elite physical traits.

1565
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,839
Speaker 2: And I will say it again. I said it earlier

1566
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 2: this hour. The only elite trait that Xavier Worthy has

1567
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 2: is his time speed, which is readily apparent on the field,

1568
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, and it's a weapon. But I

1569
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,799
Speaker 2: think Xavier Leget, if you're going to go elite physical traits,

1570
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: has more of them than Xavier Worthy does. And that's

1571
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 2: why I have him ahead of Worthy in my pecking order,

1572
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 2: because I think he offers you more elite physical traits

1573
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 2: to work with.

1574
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 1: Get ran four to three nine, four to three nine

1575
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 1: as well. I mean that guy can set.

1576
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 2: He's not a four to two to one, but that's

1577
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 2: moving well.

1578
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 1: McConkie ran a four to four to one, which is

1579
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 1: two hundred slower.

1580
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:03,759
Speaker 2: And let's and let's not forget this. Leget weighs sixty

1581
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 2: pounds more sixty than Worthy sixty sixty pounds and he

1582
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 2: runs a four to three to nine. That's what is

1583
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:13,799
Speaker 2: Worthy running. If he's two hundred and twenty.

1584
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 1: One pounds, that's right. I don't know if he's running

1585
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: four to three and he's running the bathroom is where

1586
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 1: he's running it. But wait, right, that's that's what you're

1587
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 1: looking at. I'm I hear Elliott, He's right. I'm totally

1588
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: with you. Get some physical traits at that spot or Mark, Mark,

1589
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Mark from Jersey City. I'm I'm totally with you.

1590
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 1: Worthy seems to me. And we've had guys like that,

1591
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, so Isaiah McKenzie.

1592
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 2: And John Ross was the ninth pick in the draft

1593
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: to the Bengals ran a four to two to two.

1594
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 2: That's the record who Worthy beat and he was out

1595
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 2: of the league after like three years. There's not a

1596
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:56,759
Speaker 2: good track record. Got track, guys.

1597
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: You gotta be a football player first.

1598
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 2: And he's look, Worthy's got production three years of it.

1599
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 2: There's no debating that. But I maintain that the college

1600
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 2: game is better, is different than the pro game. The

1601
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 2: pro game is so much more physical, grinding, demanding rugged.

1602
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: You get if you're a guy who is susceptible to

1603
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: getting pushed around and beat up. This isn't like in

1604
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: Codge where they'll take a shot at you once in

1605
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 1: a while, they'll give you an extra shut. This is

1606
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: if it's the game plan that corner is told, hey,

1607
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 1: you bang into him every snap. He never gets a break.

1608
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 1: Sixty snaps offensively, he's getting knocked on the ground sixty times.

1609
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: That's the game plan. Let's go and that's their job,

1610
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: and you get you know, Christian Benford's out there banging

1611
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 1: him every place. That's the way it works. So you

1612
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: don't get you're not and I can say it again,

1613
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: you don't get to play against dental students in the NFL.

1614
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 1: You're playing against guys whose job it is is to

1615
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: make your life miserable, and they will.

1616
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 2: To Jack in cheek to Wogan X, what's up?

1617
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 1: Jack?

1618
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 3: Hi?

1619
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 1: Guys?

1620
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 3: Basically a bunch of the callers and you're the last

1621
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 3: half of your session with Maddy covered the bulk of

1622
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 3: what I was looking to discuss. But my problem is

1623
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 3: at twenty eight, if Brandon Bean can be taken at

1624
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 3: his words, he doesn't see twenty eight first round values

1625
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 3: values in this draft, and a bunch of the other

1626
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 3: people have said they're looking at somewhere between twenty and

1627
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 3: twenty four first round values tops. So I don't care

1628
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 3: whose slides or who is available at twenty eight. If

1629
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 3: they are not a first round talent, then it's not

1630
01:24:55,680 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 3: the value that Bean says he wants trade back mid

1631
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 3: to get a three that's between sixty and one twenty eight.

1632
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 3: Hope that you know out of those three picks, if

1633
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 3: you get two receivers out of that, but you find

1634
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 3: a gem like Stefan Diggs, who was.

1635
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 12: A fourth round, draft bet, fifth round, fifth round, see

1636
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 12: if you can get that, because I trust their evaluations

1637
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 12: at that end as much as I do in that

1638
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 12: front end, and what they're cutoff is for a first

1639
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:29,879
Speaker 12: round value.

1640
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 3: I just don't see being taking a receiver at twenty

1641
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 3: eight unless he's absolutely convinced that the guy's a first

1642
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 3: round talent. And it doesn't you know, I don't see

1643
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 3: you know, thirty one other teams letting a first round

1644
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 3: talent slip to number twenty eight at the Bills. I

1645
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 3: just don't see that happening. Yeah, you're right, you got

1646
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 3: a trade back, you're right to go with that.

1647
01:25:55,360 --> 01:26:00,080
Speaker 1: The real thing about it here is this jack the twenty.

1648
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 1: There's twenty three or twenty or whatever.

1649
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 2: Twenty Don Lynch said there were twenty two on there.

1650
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: So they got twenty two first round talented guys. The

1651
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: problem is this, even if the Niners, the Jets, the Dolphins,

1652
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Packers, the Bears, all these other teams

1653
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: also have twenty two, it's a different twenty two.

1654
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 2: That's a different twenty two guys.

1655
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: There may be seventy guys in this draft pool that

1656
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 1: are drafted that are thought of by somebody by one

1657
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: of the thirty two teams as being a first round talent.

1658
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 2: Because you have to remember, too, all these clubs do

1659
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 2: not grade players the same way. A perfect example is

1660
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,799
Speaker 2: a team that plays a three to four defense, Compare

1661
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 2: it to a team that plays a four to three defense.

1662
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 2: Darius Robinson, the talented defensive end from Missouri who goes

1663
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 2: six to six two hundred and eighty five pounds, is

1664
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:59,440
Speaker 2: a perfect five technique for a three to four defensive team.

1665
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 2: I think he's still thought of in great regard by

1666
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 2: a lot of four to three defensive teams as well.

1667
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 2: But a three to four team might have him higher

1668
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 2: on their board because he's an ideal fit for what

1669
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: they do defensively. He may not even be a first

1670
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 2: round grade for some teams that play a four to

1671
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 2: three defense because you know, they're looking for speed guys

1672
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 2: off the edge and he is not that he's a

1673
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 2: power player.

1674
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: So that's just one example, and I would grant you that,

1675
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: so yes, But in a vacuum, I think you're exactly right, Jack.

1676
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 1: If he doesn't think the guy's worth a twenty eight pick,

1677
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: don't pick him. Trade back, get what you can get

1678
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: and get some players who you do think will be

1679
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 1: so I don't have a problem with that either. If

1680
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: he trades back, I'll be surprised because he's It would

1681
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: really be some self discipline on his party. On Brandon

1682
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 1: Bean's part.

1683
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 2: Break time for us. We'll try to squeeze him one

1684
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 2: more call and we come back here on One Bill's Live.

1685
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 2: Stay tuned all right, back here on One Bills Live.

1686
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna crack open the tweets sheet quickly here, which

1687
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 2: is brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, official equipment

1688
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 2: moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Who's the last wide

1689
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 2: receiver you'd pick at twenty eight and feel good about

1690
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 2: if you were the Bills From Foucher Junior, It's between

1691
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 2: Coleman and A. D. Mitchell For me, Coleman lacks the

1692
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 2: separation I want in a wide receiver and Mitchell just

1693
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 2: doesn't really impress me at all. Okay, he had one

1694
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 2: drop last year, one of every five of his receptions

1695
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 2: went for a touchdown, as he had eleven total. I

1696
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe does that help Fouchca Junior. I don't

1697
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 2: know what we'll have to say.

1698
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mitchell, ad Mitchell for me is quite some distance

1699
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 1: ahead of Coleman.

1700
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't even think Coleman's the first round pick.

1701
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 2: E J says. Harrison Junior, neighbors At Dunze and Brian

1702
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 2: Thomas Junior will be long gone by twenty eight, So mccacki, Laguette,

1703
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 2: and Worthy are the only wide receivers worth the first

1704
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: round pick. I believe mccackey can be a one hundred

1705
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 2: plus catch, twelve hundred yard ten touchdown weapon for Josh Allen.

1706
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean he could be.

1707
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got the hot one of the higher floors

1708
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 2: in the class.

1709
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: I'll say this too. He ran a four to three nine.

1710
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 1: Let the guy you know turn him loose. Yeah, see

1711
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: what he can do for four four four one. I

1712
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: guess he did. But yeah, maybe he can play outside.

1713
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 2: Andrew says Worthy will most likely be there at twenty eight.

1714
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 2: Not the biggest player, but as speed and can make

1715
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 2: plays after the catch, and those are usually the qualities

1716
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 2: that being looks for. Yeah, I mean there's gonna be options.

1717
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 2: He's a little question is which ones are left by

1718
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 2: the time they're on the clock. That's it for us today.

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01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow on Draft Day. At one o'clock