1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: and there's an hell yeah, and it's dark and dank, dank, creepy. 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: Remember that word dank? I do? Is that not a 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: word anymore? Not really? Okay? Um, Hey, how are you? 8 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for meeting me here? Of course I've got the invitation. 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: I couldn't resist. Um. Did you like the fact that 10 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: I gave you the invitation in cutout letters from magazine? Yeah? 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: Dealed with the kiss. It's very nice. Uh so Chuck, 12 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: we are here in a cave, yeah, man, And the 13 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: reason why is because we're talking about something thing called 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: bio speleology. That's a big word. It is saying, biospeleology. 15 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: Bio speleology. Yes, Um, you've heard of spelunking, Yeah done, 16 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: minor spelunking, yeah, I mean not deep. But I love 17 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: cave so I think they're really cool. So if you've 18 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: gone caving or spelunking, probably caving where they're like harnesses 19 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: and ropes and like helmets with lights on the top. 20 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: Okay you want, Yes, that was it was me and 21 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: my brother. You know, like poking around. Spelunking is like 22 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: where you go into a cave and you like go 23 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: into a cave like you may die. Yeah, but it's recreational. Yes, 24 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: that's what differentiates It differentiates from spi spiology, which is 25 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: slogy speleology which is cave research, and bio speleology is 26 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: cave research on the life inside that cave. Bingo, And 27 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: there's actually quite a bit of life. We only figured 28 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: this out as recently as the seventeen hundreds. Um, But 29 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: once we did figure it out, we realized that there's 30 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: some really awesome, creepy, creaky life in caves. Like you 31 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: sent me a cool picture of basically a faceless salamander, right, yeah, 32 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: that's the proteus salamander, and that's yeah, that's one of 33 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: the seventeen hundreds. They saw this thing and they were like, WHOA, 34 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: something's different. Well, the first thing that I think they 35 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: noticed that was different was that it was a foot long, um, 36 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: and that's a big salamander. Can you imagine seeing that 37 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: thing though with no eyes, no face, Yeah, no face. 38 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: It's just like ahead. Did you ever see um? I 39 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: think it was a Twilight Zone the movie, one of those. 40 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: And you don't remember the kid who like created this 41 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: whole like cartoon world and his sister. He didn't like 42 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: his sister talking bad. She was missing the mouth, and 43 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: she sat there and watched cartoons the whole time. It 44 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: is creepy, and the salamanders creepy in much the same way. Yeah, 45 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: slightly less because it's not a human. You know, we're 46 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: not hard wired to really be disturbed by faceless salamanders 47 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: like we are mouthless humans. But it's along the same lines, right. 48 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: They did that in the Matrix too. Kean had the 49 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: no mouth in that one tee but you could sort 50 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: of see the makeup, and that just bug me. Yeah, 51 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: it wasn't that good. There's also plenty of slightly less 52 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: exotic um life in in caves. You've got beetles, you've 53 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: got worms, kind of crickets. Cricket bats of course, are 54 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: the stars of caves, right um. And it turns out 55 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: from reading this article how cave biology works, I guess 56 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: all of if not most, if not all, of the 57 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: life in caves is based on well they basically they're 58 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: descended from above ground dwelling species, right, Yeah, I was 59 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: kind of surprised. I was also surprised to learned that 60 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: there were shrimp in caves for some reason that just 61 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I could see like cave shrimp being 62 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: some exotic you know, I think you would find it a 63 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: a four star restaurant because it tastes different because it's 64 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: never like seen the sun. They were um like over 65 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: the shoulder furs, very like big wooden clothes. But yeah, 66 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: you're right. They weren't necessarily born there, but they made 67 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: their way down there and in the process called regressive evolution, right, 68 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: and fans of the Lord of the Rings trilogy will 69 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: recognize this because it's pretty much what Gollum did. Yeah remember, yeah, yeah, 70 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's pretty much regressive evolution within a single organism, 71 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: which never happens, right, but this was this is over 72 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: the course of many, many generations, right, Yeah, they would 73 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: like not devolved, it's called regressive evolution. They would actually 74 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: lose features to adapt to the environment rather than you know, 75 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: gain features. Right. Well, I mean, if you think about it, 76 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: with the faceless salamander that had no eyes. If it 77 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: lives in complete darkness, constant darkness, there's no reason for 78 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: it to have eyes, so it might as well just 79 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: not have them and maybe put it up for an 80 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: energy elsewhere. Yeah, you've seen the one of the common 81 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: uh pictures of aliens from outer space. You always see 82 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: as the sort of the big head, the huge eyes 83 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: and the little nostrils without a nose, the Whitney Striber 84 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: communion aliens, right, and then it's the holes for ears 85 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: but not ears. My buddy Jerry always thought that these 86 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: were like super evolved humans from the future and that like, 87 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: we don't need the structure of the nose, We just 88 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: need the nostrils. We don't need the structure of the ears, 89 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: we just need the hole. And eventually and our brains 90 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: are getting bigger. So he was like, that's why they 91 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: got the big heads, that's why they don't have nose, 92 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: They just have nostrils, and kind of blew me away. 93 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, maybe they are like humans from 94 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: the future. He's like, and George Washington grew him exactly. 95 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: You guys are laying on top of your car um 96 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: speaking of aliens, have you ever seen bad taste? And 97 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: speaking of Peter Jackson crazy Now you haven't so. Peter Jackson, 98 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: the guy who did UM The Lord of the Rings. 99 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: He directs this horrible schlock graphically violent UM movie called 100 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: Bad Taste in you have to see it. Well, he 101 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: did another one too. UM. I can't remember the name 102 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: of it, but the same thing. Yeah, he started out 103 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: doing like schlocky horror like movies. It's it's pretty it's 104 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: worth seeing. What does that have to do with this? Um? 105 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: Aliens and Peter Jackson got you alrighty, thanks for that. 106 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: We have been going off on a good tangent in 107 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: a while. No, you know that felt good. Thanks. Well, 108 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: you know what, woodsman, this is very nice out here 109 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: and all, but I feel like we should, you know, 110 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: get back to the office. Yeah, you're right, let's go, Jerry, 111 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: so check. We talked about regressive evolution, right, um. And 112 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: it's not just the loss of eyes, you lose skim pigmentation. Um. 113 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: And you also we found that long cave organisms, cave 114 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: dwelling organisms, their metabolism is super efficient because there's so 115 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: little food down there that um, they have to make 116 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: do with what they have. It's like, um, if you 117 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: are if you have to have a section of your 118 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: intestine removed, you like basically spend the rest of your life. 119 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: Male nurse because their metabolism is used to like taking 120 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: its time absorbing nutrients, So if there's less place for 121 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: it to go, we we become malnurished. These guys are 122 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: like the exact opposite. It's like hypermetabolism. And so as 123 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: a result, we're figuring out that we can really learn 124 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: a lot by studying freaks of nature, right, Well, yeah, 125 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: and they said they look at fish because I didn't 126 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: know that a lot of our water, uh passes through 127 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: a cave ecosystem at some point, and so they'll study 128 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: like fish and how they live in the water to 129 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: study water quality that we end up drinking, which is 130 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: kind of crazy too. Yeah, you're drinking stuff that cave 131 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: shrimp has been in. Cave shrimp is pooped in the 132 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: water that you're drinking. Monkey Eat, Push me Dead Alive. 133 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: I think that was the movie. I think you're right, 134 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: it's funny how it comes back like that. We also, 135 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: um can learn a lot from studying the their lack 136 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: of eyes of normal eye development, right, Remember the Asian 137 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: Orange podcast. Remember those kids that were born without eyes? 138 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: How does that happen? Jeans are responsible for that. Well, 139 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: you learn it by comparing, say, an eyelis proteuce salamander 140 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: to a regular salamander and figure out what jeans they lack. 141 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. Yeah, humans are smarter, so Chuck, we 142 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: started to go into the caves. We figured out why 143 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: people are going into caves when they started going in. 144 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: What are we finding there? Well, they you find one 145 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: of three categories of species in a cave. Noticed it 146 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: didn't say species. People often say species, species or warsh 147 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: Have you ever been when to say warsh, I mean neither. 148 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: The first one is uh? Is it a trogolo sine i? Yeah, 149 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: troczin uh and trogolos is Greek for cave, Zenos is 150 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: Greek for guests, And so as you would or stranger, 151 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: and as you would imagine, this is uh a cave visitor. 152 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: And the three branches here of the things you will 153 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: find there, they categorize them depending on how much time 154 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: they spend in the cave. So they spend the least 155 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: amount of time and they can come and go when 156 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: they want to, and they go in there for specific reasons, 157 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: like a bear to hibernate or to nest or to 158 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: give birth, so probably for shelter talking bears, skunks, coons, moths, 159 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: right right, So that's number one. Bats as well make 160 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: that list as they make that list as well. Okay, yeah, 161 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: because they hibernate in there, right and poop, which will 162 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: get to in a little bit because that's important, so 163 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: us number two. The other The next one is trogolo files, 164 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: which means m Cave lovers. Yeah. I like that name, 165 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: which is like, hey, cave, how's it going. They just 166 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: like you're looking good and none. Yeah, they love it 167 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: so much that they actually enjoy being in there. Right. 168 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: These described species that are um capable of living inside 169 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: or outside of caves, but they love the caves so 170 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: they decided to stick around there. Um, so you've got 171 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: like beetles, worms, frogs, that kind of stuff. These things 172 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: could live outside of the caves, but they tend to 173 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: spend their their lifetimes inside of caves. And they'll go 174 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: out to to get food a lot of times and 175 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: then bring it back in, which will also get to 176 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: that's a good thing to do, that, Yes it is, man, 177 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: there's foreshadowing going on all the place. The third one, schuckers, Yeah, 178 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: that that's the creepiest one obviously is the troglo bites 179 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: and bios for life obviously, and this these are the 180 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: ones that never leave. They can't leave. They will die 181 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: outside of the cave. Yeah. I thought that was a 182 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: bit of of a stretch to go from bios of bites. Now, Well, 183 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean you've got a files there. Those were good 184 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: ones and then bites. Yeah, should be chruglob chrug lobios. 185 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: It's good. Uh. And these these little guys have adapted 186 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: so well. Like I said, they can't leave. These are 187 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: the ones that either have eyes that don't work well 188 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: or don't have eyes at all. Not much pigmentation like 189 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: the salamander we talked about was sort of a almost 190 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: a translucent pink pink a shoe. And they they have 191 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: adaptive metabolisms so they don't have a lot of food 192 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: nutrients down there, so they don't need it to live. 193 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: They're the ones with the hypermetabolisms, right, and what else 194 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: the oh, the legs and antenna are longer to help them, 195 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, find food when there is food. So let's 196 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: talk about food, man, Well let's talk about the different 197 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: places you're gonna find these things, right, so I like 198 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: think I think one of the reasons I'm I like 199 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: this cave biology article or k biology in general, is 200 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: um that everything's divided up so neatly and cleanly. Right. Yeah, 201 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: So we've got the three different kinds of um organisms. 202 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: You've got uh, trug laws and these right, trouglo files 203 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: truglo bites. There's also three different segments of a cave, right, 204 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: and they all fit in each one. And the second 205 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: one is a great great name too. Yeah. The first 206 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: one is the entrance zone, and that's um. You still 207 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: obviously will have some sunlight coming in and out, recessive sunlight, 208 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: and that means you can have some plant life a 209 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: little bit. You've got bears sleeping. You've got bear sleeping, 210 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: You've got coon sleeping. Uh, they're nesting, laying eggs and 211 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: what have you. You've got some moss, snails, owls. And 212 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: this is in the in the in this cool picture too. 213 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: It really it's kind of creepy looking. That's like a 214 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: Lead Dempsey picture. Yeah, I'm sure it is. So that's 215 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: the first one, but the second one is the really 216 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: good one, the twilight zone, and it's called You're about 217 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: to enter the twilight Zone. And you mentioned twilight zone earlier. 218 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah with the kid who that did you? I feel 219 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: like I'm about to wake up. Really, this didn't happen. 220 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: Uh in the twilight Zone. This is the middle zone 221 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: and there is a little bit of light and there 222 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: can be a little bit of plant life, but don't 223 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: count on it. No, but there's gonna be plenty of 224 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: mushrooms and probably some albino mushrooms. Well that's plant life, right, Yeah, 225 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: well it's fungus okay, So yeah, it's in the plant Kingdom. Uh. 226 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: And the temperature there is um, we should mention that 227 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: the temperature and the entrance zone varies obviously according to 228 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: the weather outside, but it gets a little more static 229 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: in the twilight Zone. I just love saying that. And uh, 230 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: it's very moist and very cool. And that is where 231 00:13:53,559 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: the trunk lessene lives. Spiders, millipedes, bats, moths right, um. 232 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: And I think Trocolo files you'll find those here as well, 233 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: hanging out too. And I guess, I mean, don't you 234 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: imagine that this is where Rod Serling got the name 235 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: for twilight Zone, because think about he was talking about 236 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: this place between this world and another world, you know, 237 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: that thin fibrous transition place. And this is the this 238 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: is that to look that up. I can't believe we 239 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: didn't already. That's the third one. This is a good one. 240 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: Third one is the dark zone. This is the creepy 241 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: slag tight This is where you're going to find no 242 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: light whatsoever, no UM change in temperature, no UM weather, 243 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: and definitely no vegetation at all. Right, yeah, creep but 244 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: lots of trocolo bytes. Yeah, you're gonna find lots of 245 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: footlong salamanders that have no faces. Did you see The Descent? 246 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: That movie kind of a not too great horror movie. 247 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. Them These girls go 248 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: caving deep deep, and there there are these psych I 249 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: think they were human end from way back when that 250 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: never left the cave. But they're basically like human trocolobytes. 251 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: It was in the woods sort of maybe, so the 252 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: um We're gonna get some mail for that one. I 253 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: think the problem with the Dark Zone is there's organisms 254 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: running around that are alive and healthy. Uh. That kind 255 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: of flies in the face of this um rule of 256 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: thumb here on planet Earth that everything uh is kept 257 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: alive by the sun, right right, If there's no light whatsoever? 258 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: How are animals in the dark zone allowed to live? 259 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: Food chain? Which I guess still I mean, she didn't 260 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: really draw the conclusion that the food chain depends on 261 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: the sun, but I guess that's what it means, right, right, 262 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: The sun still comes into play, just not deep down 263 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: within their right they get the um they benefit from 264 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: photosynthesis the lee rather than proximately. Uh So, you know, 265 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: if there's gonna how do you get food deep down 266 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: in the cave. One way is, and I didn't even 267 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: consider this is by flooding. Right when the waters rise, 268 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: it'll just wash things in there that the animals can eat, right, 269 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: And it's it's rather than a food chain. I mean, 270 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: the food chain is actually a good way to describe it. 271 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: It's almost like a food bucket brigade, you know what 272 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean. So, like you have you have food maybe 273 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: washed in um leaves, twigs, sticks or actual food um, 274 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: maybe a dead raccoon um, and then things feast on 275 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: it in the entrant zone, right, and then things that 276 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: are things that are living in the twilight zone can 277 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: feast on those things that ate it in the entrant zone, 278 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: and then it just kind of goes and goes until 279 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: you finally reach the dark zone and then they're eating 280 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, maybe four times removed what washed into the 281 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: entrant zone, right right, Yeah, Well, and that's just one 282 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: way it gets in watching. Another way is your favorite 283 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: thing guano bat poop, which is a really good fertilizer. 284 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: Is it that you can usually buy it at um nurseries? Really? Yeah, 285 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: Well there's lots of it, because I've seen the specials 286 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: where there's like mounds, like mountains of bat poop because 287 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: they're there for months on end, right hibernating and they're 288 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: all just pooping. That's all they're doing, eating and pooping, 289 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: and it stinks to um. You can't eat it right 290 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: away though, isn't that right? Or like they can't just 291 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: feed on the poop initially didn't have to decompose. Well, 292 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: it depends you've got decomposers muture organisms that are actually 293 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: eating the poop, right, So bat guano is a food 294 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: source for these these organisms at the very bottom of 295 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: the bio speleology food bucket brigade, right, the unsung heroes. Yeah, well, 296 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: so they decompose that they break it down for themselves, 297 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: turning into food themselves. But they're also leaving the trains 298 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: is byproducts, and these decomposers of micro organisms make make 299 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: up food for slightly larger organisms, right, like um, millipedes 300 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: and centipedes and other small insects, right, and then it 301 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: just kind of goes up from up to the apex, 302 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: which is the predators. Yeah, it's a food pyramid, which 303 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: really all all ecosystems are at the top of of predators. 304 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: And there's going to be the smaller well, the larger 305 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: the animal, the fewer there are of them. You know, 306 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: if you compare sharks to plankton, there's a lot more 307 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: plankton than sharks in the ocean. Good point. One of 308 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: the things that really creeped me out, And this one's 309 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: gonna keep me awake tonight. Uh. The insects get bigger 310 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: and bigger, centipedes, spider salamanders, and then uh, apparently some 311 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: centipedes are so big that they can feed on bats. 312 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: That's what I want to see. I do too, actually, 313 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: And it's kind of like, why mess around with guano 314 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: and wait for the whole food chain thing to happen, 315 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: to go right to the source and eat the bat, 316 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, the heck of a centipede. That's yeah, 317 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: I'd like to see that too. We're gonna look for 318 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: some video of that after this. Okay, So how do 319 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: these guys get in there? And these researchers um very carefully. 320 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: You gotta look out for crazy hillbillies who have um 321 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: regressively evolved. You have to not fall off of ledges, 322 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: you have to go through very narrow crevasses, watch out 323 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: for bears initially, and I'm sure the entrance zone can 324 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: be a little dodgy definitely. And um, I guess we 325 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: said that bio speleology or speleology in general is um 326 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: a pretty recent feel of the science that couple hundred 327 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: years old. Um. And we figured out pretty quick though 328 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: that these are almost pristine ecosystems. And when we show 329 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: up and we're cover it in fungi or bacteria or whatever, um, 330 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: we introduced that to that that ecosystem and can cause 331 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: its collapse pretty quick. Yeah. Debbie Bronco, my buddy who 332 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: you met as well, who wrote this, pointed out that 333 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: even just like shedding like lent off of your shirt 334 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: or Dan driff or Dan Driff off your head, off 335 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: your scaby head can can start a reaction that can 336 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: like destroy the ecosystem potentially, right creepy, And there's something 337 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: that there's nothing sadder than seeing a footlong faceless salamander 338 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: die and you know that it was because of your 339 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: your version of smallpox. You would know it was sad, 340 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: though you wouldn't be able to tell. It just looked 341 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: like the faceless beast that it was. Are you happy? 342 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: I had another point to make, but I can't remember 343 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: it right now. Were you going to make the point 344 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: about the Federal Cave Resources Protection Act of But go ahead, Well, 345 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: the US passed an act that said if you go 346 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: into a cave, you and you spray paint and cave 347 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: go to jail. You go to jail. You can't spray 348 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: paint in a cave. Well, maybe that was my point 349 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: was that that's pretty recent. Like I get the feeling 350 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 1: because they didn't explore caves until sort of recently as 351 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: far as if you talk about how long science has 352 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: been around, so I think caves have kind of just 353 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: been ignored, or maybe hundreds of years ago they were 354 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: like I ain't going in there. No, there's no or 355 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: maybe they didn't think there was a reason too there 356 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: was anything worth finding in there. Plus, they're just really scary. 357 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: I think that more than anything that's kept us out 358 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: ain't going in there. I would like to do this 359 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: though that like the the caves and the snots. Is 360 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: that what they're called? Yeah? Those are those are really neat. Yeah, 361 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: the underground water like it's a it's fascinating to me. 362 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: I want someone to like email us and say, hey, guys, 363 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: I do this, and I'd love to fly heat down 364 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: and take you spe linking. I think the coolest stuff 365 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: may have done something and saying no tastes maybe we'll see. Um, 366 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: so you got anything else? I guess the one thing 367 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: that um we took away from this is that instead 368 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: of stranger danger, you could also say zenos danger if 369 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: you're in Greece, and they'd be like, we get the 370 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: zenos part, but I didn't catch the second. Uh. If 371 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: you want to learn about cave biology or bio speleology, 372 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: you should type in cave biology or bio speleology in 373 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: the search bar at how stuff works dot com. There's 374 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: some pretty cool illustrations in there. Um and uh, or 375 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: google a proteus salamander too. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Get 376 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: it's creepy. Folk show. It's a creepy like ten times. 377 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: I wonder also we were talking about guano and being 378 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: a fertilizer. I wonder if um, the bat guano fertilizer 379 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: market is contributing to declineing cave ecosystems. It's got to 380 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: go in there and harvest it in the dark own, right. 381 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: I know. One thing we did forget was she made 382 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: a point that they are concerned that climate change is 383 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: not going to be too good for for what's in 384 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: the cave because they kind of depend on that constant 385 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: temperature in the dark zone. Right. You know, we we 386 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: can get used to changes in temperature. These organisms like 387 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: literally don't experience the temperature change in generations and generations. 388 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: I would imagine even a couple of degrees could could 389 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: wipe them out. And plus also we've got the um 390 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: white nose syndrome facing our bat populations. Yeah, what is that? 391 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: We talked about it before, I remember, um, I can't 392 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: remember how it came up, but we were talking about 393 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: bats with like little fungus on their nose and it 394 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: was killing like entire populations of bats and it's just 395 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: they're dropping by the millions and our our I guess. 396 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: Bat researchers are like, we have no idea what's going on. 397 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: We don't know how to fight this. And it's actually 398 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: a big problem because if you hate mosquitoes, brother, you 399 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: better like bats. They can eat up to six mosquitoes 400 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: in an hour. I need to get some bats, somebody 401 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: part you do. It's awful. You can actually put up 402 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: a bat house. Really, yeah, they sell them, um, usually 403 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: at nurseries. Again, you know a lot about bats. We 404 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: had a bat in our um chimney and it uh. 405 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: We did a little research and found out that's like 406 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: one of the worst things that could happen to you 407 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: as a family having bad luck. No, just like health risks. 408 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: If you wake up in a bad luck to have 409 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: a batbew, it probably is bad luck to run over graves. Really, 410 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: I heard good. Um, if you wake up in a 411 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: room and there's a bat in the corner, you have 412 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: to kill that bat and go right to the hospital. 413 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: Because people are often known to sleep through being bitten 414 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: by a bat bats Carrie rabies, so if you wake up, 415 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: you might not know that you were bitten and you 416 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: need to go get checked out. That funny people do. Well. 417 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm a like sleeper. There's no way. Are you really 418 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: big time? Oh my goodness, I'm a heavy sleeper. Yeah. 419 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: It's like I got hit in the head with going 420 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: in there. I think she's recalling her Guatemal experience. The snoring. 421 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: That's right. Uh, is that it? I think that's it. 422 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: I think that's it. Man. Yeah, okay, well, then let's 423 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: just go right to the the listener mail. There's no listener mail. 424 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: This is plugfest. Okay, yes, hell, let's do it, Chuck, 425 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: go ahead. Oh, I guess we should start with Atlanta October. 426 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: The time is still being worked out, but we're gonna 427 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: do like a door's open at this time and then 428 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: trivia starts at this time. It'll it'll be in the 429 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: evening hours, of course. Yeah, at a place called Five 430 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: Seasons Brewing Company there on the West Side. They have 431 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: a few locations, but the one we're gonna be at 432 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: is on the West Side. Um, not too far away 433 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: from downtown by Georgia Tech boo and um. We're going 434 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: to be playing trivia. Anybody who wants to come play us. 435 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: We're taking all comers. It's free. Yeah, you gotta buy 436 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: your own drinks. I imagine we'll have some s Y 437 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: s K swag and some house support swag. But we 438 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: definitely will. They'll probably be some other podcas casters, um, 439 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: some other house stuff works podcasters. There were assembling our 440 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: team right now. Yeah, we're trying to. We're more on 441 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: that later, but we're sending out emails to some people 442 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: that may or may not want to join us. Yes, 443 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: so please come uh October that's a Wednesday, right, Yeah, 444 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be awesome. It's not to be messed. They 445 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: got a cool scene there on the roof. It's gonna 446 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: have the downtown be nice and cooled off by then. 447 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna be nice. Yeah, it's gonna be way cool. 448 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: So that's and we welcome our friends from Florida. We've 449 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: already gotten some guff because I said Floridians will be 450 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: turned away at the door. 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Will make that 468 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: which is October sixth I believe K seven dot org 469 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: k I v a dot org slash team slash stuff 470 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: you should know team singular not plural. And finally, our 471 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: friends in Guatemala and co ed you can They have 472 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: left the campaign open if you still want to text 473 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: five dollars to two zero to two two. Didn't that 474 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: how it works? You text the words stuff to two 475 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: zero two two two and you can donate five dollars 476 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: and by uh, I think we've raised over fifteen thousand 477 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: dollars now the stuff you should know, Army. It's a 478 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: good good cause. Yeah, it's a way good cause. And 479 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: that's a lot of a lot of dough for them, 480 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: you know. That's what like three computer centers in full 481 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: or textbooks for life for like thousands and thousands of kids. 482 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: So we appreciate their work. And that's an ongoing campaign 483 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: right now. And we have a super cool blog to Chuck. 484 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: People don't go to the blog. It's all happening on 485 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: Facebook these days. You know how it works. I like 486 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: the blog too, you know these kids, Well, your blog 487 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: posts are awesome. Alright. Well, yeah, that's another thing too. 488 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone knows. Every week Mr Charles W. 489 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant does a little round up, a little additional 490 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: info about whatever podcast we released that week on the 491 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: blogs at how stuff Works dot com. So you can 492 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: check that out every Friday. Um. And that's that, man. 493 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: If you want to get in touch with me, Chuck, 494 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: Jerry or this chair all right, yeah, let's name this 495 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: chair Frank. 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