1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:20,748 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,388 --> 00:00:23,868 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. 4 00:00:24,988 --> 00:00:28,468 Speaker 3: Well, it's an AFC West rivalry game when the Denver 5 00:00:28,508 --> 00:00:31,228 Speaker 3: Broncos traveled to Kansas City to take on the Super 6 00:00:31,228 --> 00:00:36,068 Speaker 3: Bowl fifty seven champion Chiefs. Broncos against the Chiefs Thursday 7 00:00:36,108 --> 00:00:36,748 Speaker 3: Night Football. 8 00:00:36,788 --> 00:00:39,068 Speaker 2: Guys, Get ready for one eight. 9 00:00:39,028 --> 00:00:42,228 Speaker 3: Fifteen pm Eastern only on Prime Video. 10 00:00:42,468 --> 00:00:43,828 Speaker 4: What's up? Everybody? 11 00:00:44,028 --> 00:00:48,148 Speaker 3: Welcome in Good Morning Football, presented by Old Trapper Beef Jerkey, 12 00:00:48,588 --> 00:00:53,428 Speaker 3: live in New York City. It is Wednesday, guys, October fourteenth, eleventh. Actually, 13 00:00:53,908 --> 00:00:54,908 Speaker 3: trying to rush these things. 14 00:00:54,948 --> 00:00:55,348 Speaker 4: You can't. 15 00:00:55,348 --> 00:00:59,348 Speaker 3: I'm Colleen Wolf, got Jason mccordy, Kyle Brant, Later Schrager. 16 00:00:59,868 --> 00:01:01,868 Speaker 3: They let me come back, which is kind of a shock. 17 00:01:02,068 --> 00:01:05,748 Speaker 3: Not gonna lie, but this is good. So day two 18 00:01:05,828 --> 00:01:06,748 Speaker 3: we'll see how it goes. 19 00:01:06,948 --> 00:01:07,548 Speaker 2: It's all good. 20 00:01:07,588 --> 00:01:09,388 Speaker 5: We've got some great games ahead and we were so 21 00:01:09,388 --> 00:01:10,028 Speaker 5: happy to have Peter. 22 00:01:10,588 --> 00:01:12,908 Speaker 1: I'm going to say last week you were i would 23 00:01:12,908 --> 00:01:15,948 Speaker 1: say skeptical of Bear's commanders. You were kind of a 24 00:01:15,948 --> 00:01:17,828 Speaker 1: sour pust about the Thursday Night game. How are you 25 00:01:17,868 --> 00:01:19,068 Speaker 1: feeling about Chiefs Bronx? 26 00:01:19,148 --> 00:01:21,948 Speaker 5: Actually kind of like it Okay, cool, there's also a 27 00:01:21,948 --> 00:01:23,308 Speaker 5: little end of the world factor going. 28 00:01:23,388 --> 00:01:23,908 Speaker 2: That's good. 29 00:01:24,588 --> 00:01:29,668 Speaker 4: Okay, we love drama. Hey, let's get to the least. 30 00:01:31,388 --> 00:01:34,468 Speaker 3: So the Jets defense came up big in the final 31 00:01:34,468 --> 00:01:37,708 Speaker 3: minute against the Broncos on Sunday. Quincy Williams forced to 32 00:01:38,028 --> 00:01:41,388 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson fumble and Bryce Hall rated into the end 33 00:01:41,468 --> 00:01:43,948 Speaker 3: zone to get the win at Mile High. That loss 34 00:01:43,988 --> 00:01:47,588 Speaker 3: put Denver at one and four, and tomorrow night they've 35 00:01:47,588 --> 00:01:49,708 Speaker 3: got to go to Arrowhead and history, well, you know, 36 00:01:49,748 --> 00:01:52,468 Speaker 3: it's not in their favor as division rivals. The Broncos 37 00:01:52,468 --> 00:01:55,268 Speaker 3: of loss fifteen straight against the Chiefs, that is the 38 00:01:55,268 --> 00:01:57,708 Speaker 3: big number that everyone is talking abo outside for the 39 00:01:57,748 --> 00:02:01,188 Speaker 3: longest active streak in the NFL right now. Patrick Mahomes, 40 00:02:01,228 --> 00:02:02,908 Speaker 3: of course, was asked about this yesterday. 41 00:02:04,748 --> 00:02:07,628 Speaker 6: When you play a team like the Broncos, same with 42 00:02:07,668 --> 00:02:10,428 Speaker 6: any division opponent, there's just another level of intensity. So 43 00:02:10,428 --> 00:02:13,028 Speaker 6: I'm not worried about necessarily a streak or anything like that. 44 00:02:13,188 --> 00:02:16,348 Speaker 6: I'm worried about winning against a division opponent. And I 45 00:02:16,428 --> 00:02:18,108 Speaker 6: know just as much as I think everyone this locker 46 00:02:18,148 --> 00:02:19,668 Speaker 6: room knows that it doesn't matter what the records are, 47 00:02:19,708 --> 00:02:20,948 Speaker 6: it's gonna be a close game. It's gonna be a 48 00:02:20,988 --> 00:02:22,868 Speaker 6: hard fought battle. Both teams won't give everything they have 49 00:02:22,948 --> 00:02:25,628 Speaker 6: and so that's just the history of of the matchup. 50 00:02:25,668 --> 00:02:27,508 Speaker 6: And so that's the thing with me. It's not about 51 00:02:27,508 --> 00:02:28,748 Speaker 6: the streak. It's about going out there to find a 52 00:02:28,748 --> 00:02:31,068 Speaker 6: way to win against a division opponent, a tough fought battle. 53 00:02:31,748 --> 00:02:34,708 Speaker 3: So Mahomes isn't worried about the streak, but I'm sure 54 00:02:34,748 --> 00:02:36,828 Speaker 3: it's on Denver his mind, and along with a lot 55 00:02:36,868 --> 00:02:39,108 Speaker 3: of other things. Sitting at one and four right now, 56 00:02:39,148 --> 00:02:41,148 Speaker 3: how can the Broncos take a step in the right 57 00:02:41,188 --> 00:02:43,628 Speaker 3: direction tomorrow night at Arrowhead, Peter, this is. 58 00:02:43,548 --> 00:02:45,308 Speaker 5: One of those where you're in the bunker and you're 59 00:02:45,308 --> 00:02:47,388 Speaker 5: looking around. You're like, it's us against the world, and 60 00:02:47,468 --> 00:02:50,388 Speaker 5: it can't fall apart. You know, the Broncos did trade 61 00:02:50,388 --> 00:02:53,348 Speaker 5: away Randy Gregory for sixty cents of the dollar last week. 62 00:02:53,388 --> 00:02:56,628 Speaker 5: He was a very expensive free agent signing right before 63 00:02:56,628 --> 00:02:59,108 Speaker 5: Sean Payton got there. Over the last twenty four hours, 64 00:02:59,148 --> 00:03:01,588 Speaker 5: you've heard just about every Broncos veteran be mentioned in 65 00:03:01,668 --> 00:03:03,908 Speaker 5: trade talks. Jared Judy came out and he had a 66 00:03:03,908 --> 00:03:06,388 Speaker 5: tweet to say, these old heads be some lame haters. 67 00:03:06,428 --> 00:03:08,108 Speaker 5: And I think he's talking about in general, some of 68 00:03:08,108 --> 00:03:11,228 Speaker 5: the old players. Jason, you were can your friends going 69 00:03:11,268 --> 00:03:14,668 Speaker 5: on and saying, Hey, these guys, to which Mark schlerif 70 00:03:14,668 --> 00:03:17,828 Speaker 5: Bronco's legend, responds, does old heads mean someone that has 71 00:03:17,868 --> 00:03:21,108 Speaker 5: more playoffs starts than you have career starts? 72 00:03:21,868 --> 00:03:24,708 Speaker 2: Come in local Denver right now? 73 00:03:25,228 --> 00:03:28,828 Speaker 5: This is And if you're Jerry Judy or if you're 74 00:03:28,828 --> 00:03:30,988 Speaker 5: another star player, you're looking at this thing and it's 75 00:03:31,028 --> 00:03:32,748 Speaker 5: not about your fantasy status. 76 00:03:32,748 --> 00:03:35,148 Speaker 4: It's about status as. 77 00:03:35,028 --> 00:03:37,228 Speaker 5: A Denver Bronco and whether they want you here or not. 78 00:03:37,308 --> 00:03:39,108 Speaker 5: I feel like the trade deadline's coming up. If you 79 00:03:39,148 --> 00:03:40,748 Speaker 5: go one in five, this thing is all over. And 80 00:03:40,788 --> 00:03:43,028 Speaker 5: if you're going against the Chiefs, it could get ugly. 81 00:03:43,228 --> 00:03:46,108 Speaker 5: I asked Tom Self, our producer. I asked Rich Goldberg, 82 00:03:46,148 --> 00:03:48,668 Speaker 5: one of our producers, do what can I get some 83 00:03:48,708 --> 00:03:51,948 Speaker 5: of the best of my homes versus the Brons home 84 00:03:52,068 --> 00:03:56,868 Speaker 5: his first career start, Week seventeen, a no look pass 85 00:03:56,988 --> 00:03:58,588 Speaker 5: across the middle that everyone. 86 00:03:58,228 --> 00:03:59,068 Speaker 4: Over the off season was. 87 00:03:59,028 --> 00:04:00,108 Speaker 2: Like, who whoa, whoa, who whoaa? 88 00:04:00,148 --> 00:04:01,948 Speaker 5: What was that thing right there? We don't see that. 89 00:04:02,028 --> 00:04:04,188 Speaker 5: It was an a nothing game. Alex Smith star at 90 00:04:04,228 --> 00:04:07,468 Speaker 5: all season, but Mahomes through this no look in the 91 00:04:07,508 --> 00:04:12,668 Speaker 5: game Albert Wilson. Okay, Mahomes' first Monday Night game of 92 00:04:12,708 --> 00:04:13,228 Speaker 5: his career. 93 00:04:14,068 --> 00:04:15,828 Speaker 2: Von Miller's chasing him, chasing. 94 00:04:15,668 --> 00:04:19,028 Speaker 7: The left handed pass for a first down. 95 00:04:19,308 --> 00:04:20,828 Speaker 5: Mahomes would find a way to come all the way 96 00:04:20,868 --> 00:04:23,548 Speaker 5: back and win this game, all right? Then we go 97 00:04:23,548 --> 00:04:25,788 Speaker 5: to the snow. Surely you can't beat the Broncos in 98 00:04:25,828 --> 00:04:28,868 Speaker 5: the elements. Yeah, he could beat the Broncos in his elements. 99 00:04:28,948 --> 00:04:32,108 Speaker 5: Rookie second year obviously, throws this deep one to Tyreek Hill. 100 00:04:32,228 --> 00:04:34,748 Speaker 2: They win the game on that play, all right. 101 00:04:35,028 --> 00:04:37,748 Speaker 5: Last this was December eleventh, twenty twenty two. 102 00:04:38,268 --> 00:04:38,788 Speaker 4: Last year. 103 00:04:38,868 --> 00:04:42,508 Speaker 5: One of my favorite Mahomes passes. He throws this beauty 104 00:04:42,508 --> 00:04:45,268 Speaker 5: to Jeric McKinnon that I think we're still talking about today. 105 00:04:45,668 --> 00:04:47,668 Speaker 5: It's one thing to lose games, it's another one to 106 00:04:47,708 --> 00:04:48,308 Speaker 5: get dunked on. 107 00:04:49,068 --> 00:04:51,468 Speaker 2: He's never lost, has never lost to the Broncos. He 108 00:04:51,508 --> 00:04:52,268 Speaker 2: plays them twice a year. 109 00:04:52,348 --> 00:04:53,708 Speaker 5: If you've never played another game, he's going to the 110 00:04:53,708 --> 00:04:56,188 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. He's never lost to the Broncos, plays 111 00:04:56,188 --> 00:04:58,548 Speaker 5: them twice for a year. I'm not in the local 112 00:04:58,588 --> 00:05:01,548 Speaker 5: Denver market media. I'm not one to ship off players. 113 00:05:01,548 --> 00:05:04,628 Speaker 5: But if you're a Broncos veteran and you're watching our 114 00:05:04,668 --> 00:05:06,948 Speaker 5: show and you're watching all the coverage, just know that 115 00:05:07,268 --> 00:05:10,628 Speaker 5: likely no person is safe. And another thing. At some point, 116 00:05:11,268 --> 00:05:13,108 Speaker 5: let's get together, let's shock the world and let's have 117 00:05:13,148 --> 00:05:15,668 Speaker 5: a moment. Let's not let this get to sixteen. What 118 00:05:15,708 --> 00:05:17,748 Speaker 5: can they do well, they can show up and they 119 00:05:17,748 --> 00:05:19,228 Speaker 5: can come together. They could play as a team and 120 00:05:19,268 --> 00:05:22,028 Speaker 5: hopefully do their best to compete because it hasn't been 121 00:05:22,148 --> 00:05:24,228 Speaker 5: a rivalry. It's been a one sided domination in the 122 00:05:24,348 --> 00:05:25,348 Speaker 5: last eight years. 123 00:05:25,788 --> 00:05:28,228 Speaker 1: With they hang a banner that said, like beat Mahomes 124 00:05:28,228 --> 00:05:30,788 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and they got a couple of super 125 00:05:30,828 --> 00:05:33,028 Speaker 1: Bowls there, but like I'm saying, like they got one. 126 00:05:33,268 --> 00:05:35,388 Speaker 2: Very proud for each else, I know, And it's just. 127 00:05:35,428 --> 00:05:39,748 Speaker 1: It's been seven years of dreariness, crazy. I think Mahomes 128 00:05:39,828 --> 00:05:42,108 Speaker 1: the hardest he's worked was in that press conference. 129 00:05:42,348 --> 00:05:42,988 Speaker 2: I'm watching it. 130 00:05:43,028 --> 00:05:45,028 Speaker 1: I'm just like, man, he is such a good guy, 131 00:05:45,228 --> 00:05:47,268 Speaker 1: Like he is such a nice respect he's trying so 132 00:05:47,348 --> 00:05:49,788 Speaker 1: Hardy's saying, you know, you throw the records out and 133 00:05:49,828 --> 00:05:52,108 Speaker 1: some of these have been close, and like he's trying 134 00:05:52,268 --> 00:05:55,028 Speaker 1: so hard. It's an awkward question, Pat you destroy the 135 00:05:55,028 --> 00:05:58,228 Speaker 1: Broncos every time talk about it. It's very difficult for him. 136 00:05:58,268 --> 00:06:00,668 Speaker 1: And look what he's not saying is like, there's been 137 00:06:00,708 --> 00:06:04,308 Speaker 1: margins victory twenty seven, twenty four, twenty fourteen. He's not 138 00:06:04,508 --> 00:06:06,788 Speaker 1: talking about those ever been some close ones. There have 139 00:06:06,828 --> 00:06:08,948 Speaker 1: been some close ones, and there was some close ones recently. 140 00:06:09,108 --> 00:06:10,268 Speaker 2: How can they make this a game? 141 00:06:10,348 --> 00:06:11,668 Speaker 1: Like? How can they get it? You know, I don't 142 00:06:11,668 --> 00:06:13,668 Speaker 1: think this is the best Chiefs team the last five years. 143 00:06:13,668 --> 00:06:16,508 Speaker 1: It's probably the most vulnerable Chiefs team, and there have 144 00:06:16,588 --> 00:06:18,748 Speaker 1: been really close games lately. It's just like, can we 145 00:06:18,788 --> 00:06:20,748 Speaker 1: get anything from Denver's defense? 146 00:06:20,828 --> 00:06:21,228 Speaker 2: Anything? 147 00:06:21,268 --> 00:06:22,988 Speaker 1: I think Russ is gonna play, I think Peyton will 148 00:06:22,988 --> 00:06:24,828 Speaker 1: have a game plan. So here's a really interesting thing. 149 00:06:24,828 --> 00:06:26,548 Speaker 1: It applies to our show. When you just have a 150 00:06:26,588 --> 00:06:28,868 Speaker 1: really bad start, like the Broncos have through five games 151 00:06:28,868 --> 00:06:31,188 Speaker 1: like historic let up seventy, all that you get put 152 00:06:31,228 --> 00:06:34,828 Speaker 1: into the NFL research machine and it churns out comps 153 00:06:34,828 --> 00:06:36,748 Speaker 1: and things like that, and you will not believe the 154 00:06:36,828 --> 00:06:40,028 Speaker 1: comp for a start for a defense this bad that 155 00:06:40,108 --> 00:06:43,268 Speaker 1: Denver has had. You know what other defense has incredibly 156 00:06:43,308 --> 00:06:47,228 Speaker 1: similar numbers? Twenty twenty three Broncos look at the start 157 00:06:47,348 --> 00:06:50,508 Speaker 1: of the twenty twelve Titans spotop. 158 00:06:50,268 --> 00:06:52,788 Speaker 2: Jason, why is there a picture of me? You were 159 00:06:52,828 --> 00:06:54,108 Speaker 2: on the squad, so what. 160 00:06:54,268 --> 00:06:55,028 Speaker 4: I was just a guy? 161 00:06:55,428 --> 00:06:56,308 Speaker 2: Can you believe this? 162 00:06:56,508 --> 00:06:59,348 Speaker 1: Not only one in four fine thirty six point two 163 00:06:59,428 --> 00:07:01,308 Speaker 1: exactly points per game allowed? 164 00:07:01,628 --> 00:07:04,228 Speaker 2: And you guys said three interceptions through five Denver three 165 00:07:04,468 --> 00:07:06,148 Speaker 2: up through five, Roncos versus McCurdy. 166 00:07:06,188 --> 00:07:09,708 Speaker 1: He's an incredible Jason busting chops a little bit. But like, 167 00:07:10,028 --> 00:07:12,068 Speaker 1: you guys were unbelievably bad. 168 00:07:11,948 --> 00:07:12,828 Speaker 2: Through five games. 169 00:07:12,908 --> 00:07:16,068 Speaker 1: You were, we were, and yet you persisted you won 170 00:07:16,188 --> 00:07:18,468 Speaker 1: some more games. We have video, Like can you just 171 00:07:18,548 --> 00:07:20,468 Speaker 1: even imagine what the guys on defense are thinking, because 172 00:07:20,468 --> 00:07:22,868 Speaker 1: there's some good players on that defense, Like, get into 173 00:07:22,908 --> 00:07:24,628 Speaker 1: it and relate to what Denver's going through. 174 00:07:24,668 --> 00:07:26,868 Speaker 4: No, at this point, you're out there and it's pride 175 00:07:26,908 --> 00:07:29,228 Speaker 4: because you get to a point where you're looking at 176 00:07:29,228 --> 00:07:30,988 Speaker 4: your team and you're getting blown out. You're giving up 177 00:07:31,028 --> 00:07:33,348 Speaker 4: all these points. The offense is obviously struggling a little 178 00:07:33,348 --> 00:07:35,708 Speaker 4: bit too, and it's all right, we're not going probably 179 00:07:35,708 --> 00:07:37,428 Speaker 4: to the playoffs, we're not going to the super Bowl. 180 00:07:37,548 --> 00:07:39,708 Speaker 4: Know that already to your point where you just said, 181 00:07:39,748 --> 00:07:42,748 Speaker 4: nobody is safe. At that point, you're playing for where 182 00:07:42,748 --> 00:07:44,188 Speaker 4: you're going to play next year? 183 00:07:44,228 --> 00:07:44,588 Speaker 8: Is that right? 184 00:07:44,628 --> 00:07:46,788 Speaker 4: Because at this point, the whole team it has to 185 00:07:46,828 --> 00:07:49,708 Speaker 4: explode even in week six, like yes, because now you're 186 00:07:49,748 --> 00:07:51,948 Speaker 4: just starting to build that to go towards the end 187 00:07:51,948 --> 00:07:53,988 Speaker 4: of the season, because you look at that Chempayne just 188 00:07:53,988 --> 00:07:55,988 Speaker 4: got there as a new head coach, a general manager. 189 00:07:56,148 --> 00:07:59,148 Speaker 4: Somebody has to get the blame for why the season 190 00:07:59,228 --> 00:08:01,228 Speaker 4: is going bad. So it has to be all right, 191 00:08:01,348 --> 00:08:03,468 Speaker 4: vance Joseph in the defense. If I'm Vans Joseph, it 192 00:08:03,548 --> 00:08:05,708 Speaker 4: has to be while I'm missing players here or there. 193 00:08:05,868 --> 00:08:07,388 Speaker 4: So it has to fall out and there's just a 194 00:08:07,388 --> 00:08:09,148 Speaker 4: trickle down effect. So by the time you get to 195 00:08:09,148 --> 00:08:11,108 Speaker 4: that bottom as a player, you're out there and you're 196 00:08:11,108 --> 00:08:13,108 Speaker 4: just like, all right, I'm playing for my career. You 197 00:08:13,148 --> 00:08:15,388 Speaker 4: have some made guys like a patser Tin, like a 198 00:08:15,548 --> 00:08:17,308 Speaker 4: Justin Simmons, but there's a lot of guys on that 199 00:08:17,348 --> 00:08:19,388 Speaker 4: defense where it's just like you might be in your 200 00:08:19,388 --> 00:08:21,588 Speaker 4: first year starting getting over it, and it's just like 201 00:08:21,668 --> 00:08:24,028 Speaker 4: you have to show up. So when you talk about 202 00:08:24,148 --> 00:08:27,428 Speaker 4: the Broncos walking or stepping in the right direction, call 203 00:08:27,548 --> 00:08:30,388 Speaker 4: to your points defense, show us some signs of life, 204 00:08:30,428 --> 00:08:31,428 Speaker 4: like are you still alive? 205 00:08:31,508 --> 00:08:32,228 Speaker 2: Are you breathing? 206 00:08:32,388 --> 00:08:34,868 Speaker 4: It's been like a flatline this season. Those numbers you 207 00:08:34,908 --> 00:08:38,028 Speaker 4: put up whenever you start comparing a team and you say, well, 208 00:08:38,028 --> 00:08:40,268 Speaker 4: this is the first time in the Super Bowl era 209 00:08:40,748 --> 00:08:43,148 Speaker 4: and that's where the Broncos, that's where they are through 210 00:08:43,228 --> 00:08:45,908 Speaker 4: five weeks. This is the most points in team history, 211 00:08:46,108 --> 00:08:48,828 Speaker 4: the most yards, all the whole nine, so to that 212 00:08:48,908 --> 00:08:51,748 Speaker 4: point for them, and you say nobody is safe. It 213 00:08:51,828 --> 00:08:54,028 Speaker 4: might be players on this Broncos team where they're just like, 214 00:08:54,108 --> 00:08:56,388 Speaker 4: I'm happy, I'm not safe. I don't want to be here. 215 00:08:56,588 --> 00:08:58,868 Speaker 4: We heard garab Boule say, since I've been here, all 216 00:08:58,908 --> 00:09:01,668 Speaker 4: I've done is lose. And now you have this new 217 00:09:01,708 --> 00:09:03,628 Speaker 4: coach come in and there's new found hope and there's 218 00:09:03,668 --> 00:09:06,068 Speaker 4: a new direction for this organization. It's like, all right, 219 00:09:06,148 --> 00:09:08,908 Speaker 4: we're gonna get over the hump. And they've been worse 220 00:09:08,948 --> 00:09:11,068 Speaker 4: than they were last year. So you look at this 221 00:09:11,108 --> 00:09:13,708 Speaker 4: team and you're wondering, as a player here you bring 222 00:09:13,708 --> 00:09:15,788 Speaker 4: this new guy in, it's just it's not working. I know, 223 00:09:15,868 --> 00:09:18,428 Speaker 4: chan Paygnon's a legend made guy, all of those different things, 224 00:09:18,548 --> 00:09:21,348 Speaker 4: but if it's not working at Denver, if I perform well, 225 00:09:21,468 --> 00:09:23,428 Speaker 4: I can be somewhere maybe I want to be if 226 00:09:23,428 --> 00:09:25,548 Speaker 4: this isn't the play, so for them step in the 227 00:09:25,588 --> 00:09:27,308 Speaker 4: right direction, So some signs of life and go out 228 00:09:27,308 --> 00:09:27,748 Speaker 4: there and places. 229 00:09:27,748 --> 00:09:31,748 Speaker 5: And I ask, specifically, what's more demoralizing seventy points to 230 00:09:31,788 --> 00:09:34,188 Speaker 5: a high powered offense like the Dolphins being embarrassed that way, 231 00:09:34,268 --> 00:09:36,068 Speaker 5: or giving m four hundred yards to a Jets team 232 00:09:36,068 --> 00:09:38,188 Speaker 5: that's every point seventy seventy points. 233 00:09:38,228 --> 00:09:42,228 Speaker 2: Seventy points is bad. But can't anyone else no doubt 234 00:09:42,228 --> 00:09:43,068 Speaker 2: about down the field. 235 00:09:43,068 --> 00:09:44,868 Speaker 4: At least I can say Breece Hall is a really 236 00:09:44,908 --> 00:09:47,948 Speaker 4: good player. But seventy points is just like, come on, 237 00:09:48,108 --> 00:09:51,948 Speaker 4: Like there was the shot we showed where Devon and 238 00:09:52,028 --> 00:09:54,548 Speaker 4: all those guys are just on the ground. It's just like, like, 239 00:09:54,588 --> 00:09:57,228 Speaker 4: we're football players. This is the NFL. We're getting paid 240 00:09:57,228 --> 00:09:58,748 Speaker 4: to do the best in the world. It's embarrassing in 241 00:09:58,748 --> 00:09:59,188 Speaker 4: the world. 242 00:09:59,348 --> 00:10:01,468 Speaker 3: Like I just don't want to be depressed by the 243 00:10:01,468 --> 00:10:04,708 Speaker 3: Broncos anymore. Like I just they make me feel sad. 244 00:10:04,908 --> 00:10:08,108 Speaker 3: I can't imagine how they feel, Like I really try. 245 00:10:08,228 --> 00:10:10,828 Speaker 3: I felt like Patrick Mahomes in that press conference trying 246 00:10:10,868 --> 00:10:12,988 Speaker 3: to come up with an angle here of how the 247 00:10:13,028 --> 00:10:14,268 Speaker 3: Broncos can take a. 248 00:10:14,228 --> 00:10:15,468 Speaker 2: Step in the right direction. 249 00:10:15,988 --> 00:10:19,908 Speaker 3: And I was just spinning NonStop, and I heard Peter 250 00:10:20,028 --> 00:10:22,788 Speaker 3: say it, I heard Jason say it. They need to 251 00:10:22,828 --> 00:10:24,948 Speaker 3: show up, like they literally how do they take a 252 00:10:24,948 --> 00:10:26,548 Speaker 3: step in the right direction? Well, I guess you start 253 00:10:26,588 --> 00:10:28,388 Speaker 3: with showing up, like we just need a proof of 254 00:10:28,468 --> 00:10:31,948 Speaker 3: life at this point. And I know the run defense, 255 00:10:31,988 --> 00:10:34,188 Speaker 3: like you could get into all of the different matchups 256 00:10:34,188 --> 00:10:36,068 Speaker 3: and like the ways that they could specifically, but they're 257 00:10:36,068 --> 00:10:39,908 Speaker 3: such a disaster that like, I mean yes, like the 258 00:10:40,068 --> 00:10:42,668 Speaker 3: run defense is really a mess, and you really need 259 00:10:42,708 --> 00:10:45,908 Speaker 3: to fix that a bit, because I mean, god, they've 260 00:10:45,948 --> 00:10:48,788 Speaker 3: given up what like one hundred and twenty two yards, 261 00:10:48,828 --> 00:10:51,028 Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty one, seventy one, two thirty four. 262 00:10:51,068 --> 00:10:52,788 Speaker 1: I mean, I can You're like, can we get thirty 263 00:10:52,828 --> 00:10:53,988 Speaker 1: one to twenty three chiefs? 264 00:10:54,268 --> 00:10:55,988 Speaker 2: Can we get that? We're in it late and they 265 00:10:56,028 --> 00:10:57,428 Speaker 2: get score a late touchdown and we lose. 266 00:10:57,548 --> 00:11:01,148 Speaker 3: But I will say even last year when these two 267 00:11:01,188 --> 00:11:04,148 Speaker 3: teams played each other, and I know different coaching staff 268 00:11:04,428 --> 00:11:05,748 Speaker 3: thought that this one was going to be a little 269 00:11:05,748 --> 00:11:08,228 Speaker 3: bit better, they were close games, like very close. They 270 00:11:08,268 --> 00:11:10,948 Speaker 3: were competitive. They lost by six, and Week fourteen, they 271 00:11:10,988 --> 00:11:14,708 Speaker 3: lost by three. In Week seventeen game. You never know 272 00:11:14,748 --> 00:11:15,708 Speaker 3: what's gonna happen on. 273 00:11:15,668 --> 00:11:16,348 Speaker 4: A Thursday night. 274 00:11:16,428 --> 00:11:18,508 Speaker 3: You never know what's gonna happen in a division game. 275 00:11:18,628 --> 00:11:21,668 Speaker 3: I would have loved to see Jalil McLaughlin get a 276 00:11:21,668 --> 00:11:24,428 Speaker 3: little bit Blachlin more run than the second half. That's 277 00:11:24,468 --> 00:11:27,348 Speaker 3: the It was really good in that first half. He 278 00:11:27,428 --> 00:11:30,388 Speaker 3: had like his first four touches, there were sixty three 279 00:11:30,468 --> 00:11:32,748 Speaker 3: yards of offense and a touchdown, and then they went 280 00:11:32,788 --> 00:11:34,828 Speaker 3: away from him in the second half. Now, probably game 281 00:11:34,868 --> 00:11:36,748 Speaker 3: script and all that plays into it, blah blah blah blah, 282 00:11:36,748 --> 00:11:40,708 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just McLaughlin put it together. 283 00:11:41,148 --> 00:11:44,708 Speaker 1: Can can we get Can we get anything anything from 284 00:11:44,748 --> 00:11:45,348 Speaker 1: Sean Payton? 285 00:11:45,468 --> 00:11:46,748 Speaker 2: How about that little fire? 286 00:11:47,108 --> 00:11:49,228 Speaker 1: Well it's a primetime traded away. 287 00:11:49,148 --> 00:11:51,948 Speaker 2: One of their best players. Randy Gregory is a good idea. 288 00:11:52,388 --> 00:11:52,868 Speaker 8: It was Zank. 289 00:11:53,188 --> 00:11:55,308 Speaker 4: It didn't work. He's an alert to. 290 00:11:55,348 --> 00:11:59,148 Speaker 1: Everyone, offensive genius, one of the greatest conference is fine. 291 00:11:59,628 --> 00:12:00,548 Speaker 2: The team sucks. 292 00:12:00,908 --> 00:12:03,468 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, he got here straight. 293 00:12:03,788 --> 00:12:06,468 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm I'm blaming you. I'm sorry. 294 00:12:06,708 --> 00:12:08,268 Speaker 4: Fault Yeah, what are you guys? 295 00:12:08,308 --> 00:12:08,588 Speaker 1: Okay? 296 00:12:09,468 --> 00:12:11,268 Speaker 4: He was with them all year f Fox. Yeah, I 297 00:12:11,348 --> 00:12:12,708 Speaker 4: was supposed to figure some things. 298 00:12:12,468 --> 00:12:14,668 Speaker 5: Out, you know, I think he had to get away 299 00:12:14,668 --> 00:12:14,948 Speaker 5: from it. 300 00:12:15,628 --> 00:12:17,588 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, all right, Well you know what time 301 00:12:17,628 --> 00:12:20,908 Speaker 3: it is in Rappaport, Shit, Ian, get in here. 302 00:12:21,148 --> 00:12:23,868 Speaker 2: What's up? Good morning, my friend. So great to see you. 303 00:12:24,108 --> 00:12:26,428 Speaker 3: I don't really want to hear bad news about injuries, 304 00:12:26,428 --> 00:12:28,668 Speaker 3: but I'm sure you have it. So what's going on. 305 00:12:29,028 --> 00:12:29,828 Speaker 2: That's not all bad? 306 00:12:29,828 --> 00:12:30,068 Speaker 8: Today? 307 00:12:30,108 --> 00:12:32,948 Speaker 7: We'll start with Deshaun Watson, the Cleveland Browns starting quarterback, 308 00:12:33,028 --> 00:12:35,828 Speaker 7: did not play a little bit of a surprise last week. 309 00:12:36,108 --> 00:12:38,708 Speaker 7: The Deshaun Watson is, i would say, considered to be 310 00:12:38,868 --> 00:12:42,068 Speaker 7: day to day dealing with bruising around his rotator company. 311 00:12:42,068 --> 00:12:44,468 Speaker 7: It's fair to say his status for really big important 312 00:12:44,508 --> 00:12:46,508 Speaker 7: game against the forty nine ers this week is up 313 00:12:46,508 --> 00:12:48,508 Speaker 7: in the air. The Browns had a little bit of 314 00:12:48,508 --> 00:12:51,148 Speaker 7: a bonus practice early in the week. He was throwing, 315 00:12:51,188 --> 00:12:53,348 Speaker 7: but he was inside. He was not with his teammates. 316 00:12:53,628 --> 00:12:57,148 Speaker 7: His backups, of course, are dtr and PJ. Walk. Will 317 00:12:57,188 --> 00:13:00,068 Speaker 7: be interesting to see which direction did Browns go. But 318 00:13:00,428 --> 00:13:03,428 Speaker 7: we do not know right now if Deshaun Watson is 319 00:13:03,428 --> 00:13:06,068 Speaker 7: going to play this week. We do know that James Connor, 320 00:13:06,108 --> 00:13:08,908 Speaker 7: the starting running back for the Arizona Cardinals, is not 321 00:13:08,988 --> 00:13:09,508 Speaker 7: going to play. 322 00:13:09,548 --> 00:13:09,868 Speaker 2: This week. 323 00:13:09,908 --> 00:13:13,508 Speaker 7: He was officially placed on injured reserve yesterday dealing with 324 00:13:13,548 --> 00:13:16,268 Speaker 7: a knee injury, so he is now out a minimum 325 00:13:16,548 --> 00:13:20,668 Speaker 7: of four games. Amari Demarcato nailed that name is his 326 00:13:20,748 --> 00:13:23,188 Speaker 7: backup had ten carries last week. Would be a name 327 00:13:23,268 --> 00:13:26,308 Speaker 7: potentially Dad in fantasy if that's something you're interested in. 328 00:13:26,588 --> 00:13:27,548 Speaker 2: And then Justin. 329 00:13:27,388 --> 00:13:31,228 Speaker 7: Jefferson, the star receiver, maybe the best receiver in the NFL. 330 00:13:31,268 --> 00:13:34,228 Speaker 7: He is also out minimum of four games. 331 00:13:34,468 --> 00:13:35,788 Speaker 2: Deal wing the hamstering. 332 00:13:35,388 --> 00:13:37,068 Speaker 7: Injur're going to see it right there, just kind of 333 00:13:37,068 --> 00:13:40,308 Speaker 7: went down. Funny had a bunch of tests on Monday. 334 00:13:40,668 --> 00:13:43,748 Speaker 7: My understanding is it's not an extended absence for Justin 335 00:13:43,828 --> 00:13:46,788 Speaker 7: Jefferson should be back surely after I are. 336 00:13:46,788 --> 00:13:48,388 Speaker 4: But he is not going to the on the field 337 00:13:48,908 --> 00:13:50,068 Speaker 4: coming up for the Vikings. 338 00:13:51,748 --> 00:13:54,468 Speaker 3: Hate that news and then the ripple effects from it. 339 00:13:54,548 --> 00:13:56,668 Speaker 3: We'll discuss a little later in the show whether or 340 00:13:56,748 --> 00:14:00,148 Speaker 3: not Kirk Cousins should be moved and where he could land. 341 00:14:00,228 --> 00:14:02,588 Speaker 3: So Ian, thank you for all of those updates. I 342 00:14:02,628 --> 00:14:05,228 Speaker 3: do like the more positive ones. Could get more of 343 00:14:05,268 --> 00:14:07,428 Speaker 3: that in the show, that'd be great. I'm gonna be 344 00:14:07,468 --> 00:14:09,388 Speaker 3: watching all these games on NFL Plus. I don't know 345 00:14:09,428 --> 00:14:11,788 Speaker 3: about you guys this weekend. So if you don't have it, 346 00:14:11,908 --> 00:14:13,428 Speaker 3: what are you doing? What kind of life are you 347 00:14:13,468 --> 00:14:16,508 Speaker 3: even living? At this point? Live games on your phone, 348 00:14:16,628 --> 00:14:20,068 Speaker 3: NFL Red Zone Network game replays whatever you want. It's 349 00:14:20,108 --> 00:14:22,908 Speaker 3: all convenient in your pocket. Maybe you're doing laundry, maybe 350 00:14:22,908 --> 00:14:23,948 Speaker 3: you're food shopping. I don't know. 351 00:14:23,988 --> 00:14:24,428 Speaker 2: You get it A. 352 00:14:24,428 --> 00:14:28,148 Speaker 3: Plus dot NFL dot com terms and conditions of live. 353 00:14:28,188 --> 00:14:32,748 Speaker 2: Imagine not a world without NFL plus. 354 00:14:32,788 --> 00:14:39,188 Speaker 3: I don't want to live in it exactly. Guess who's 355 00:14:39,228 --> 00:14:43,308 Speaker 3: coming on the show, guys, Pull Climb backer Zaire Franklin. 356 00:14:43,468 --> 00:14:47,268 Speaker 3: He's going to join us discussing the game against. 357 00:14:46,948 --> 00:14:51,948 Speaker 1: The Jags plus Ravens and Titans in London, Baltimore. 358 00:14:51,948 --> 00:14:53,668 Speaker 2: It needs a game, Lamar, We need a game. We're 359 00:14:53,668 --> 00:14:57,588 Speaker 2: gonna check in with Cheney ardall right after this in 360 00:14:57,668 --> 00:15:00,508 Speaker 2: the UK. She's standing by. I'll be sisting. What's up, Jamie, 361 00:15:00,588 --> 00:15:01,268 Speaker 2: talk to you in a minute. 362 00:15:01,308 --> 00:15:12,268 Speaker 9: It's got some more Cordy highlights in the show Baby, 363 00:15:13,348 --> 00:15:14,868 Speaker 9: Good Morning Football. 364 00:15:15,588 --> 00:15:18,708 Speaker 3: The NFL London games they will march forward exclusively on 365 00:15:18,788 --> 00:15:20,668 Speaker 3: NFL Network and you can watch Lamar Jackson and the 366 00:15:20,748 --> 00:15:24,348 Speaker 3: Ravens against Derrick Henry and the Titans live from Tottenham 367 00:15:24,348 --> 00:15:27,428 Speaker 3: Hotspur Stadium, the hot Toddy. It's gonna be great there. 368 00:15:27,508 --> 00:15:30,788 Speaker 3: Coverage begins seven am Eastern. The game kicks off nine 369 00:15:30,868 --> 00:15:33,468 Speaker 3: thirty Eastern. Make sure your fantasy lineups are set. You 370 00:15:33,468 --> 00:15:35,308 Speaker 3: don't want to get got with somebody on your bench. 371 00:15:35,868 --> 00:15:38,548 Speaker 3: Not a great look. And joining us now from overseas. 372 00:15:38,588 --> 00:15:40,348 Speaker 3: Always looking wonderful. 373 00:15:39,948 --> 00:15:44,988 Speaker 4: Jamie or all right, catch us up? Can you give 374 00:15:45,068 --> 00:15:47,588 Speaker 4: us the tea from London? What have we missed? 375 00:15:47,748 --> 00:15:50,228 Speaker 10: I would love to You haven't missed much, actually, you guys, 376 00:15:50,268 --> 00:15:52,508 Speaker 10: because as I mentioned yesterday, the Ravens have been here, 377 00:15:52,508 --> 00:15:55,188 Speaker 10: but they had an off day yesterday, so I was 378 00:15:55,468 --> 00:15:58,108 Speaker 10: looking around town see if I could spot any players. 379 00:15:58,108 --> 00:16:00,308 Speaker 10: I actually did catch up with Kyle van Ney. I 380 00:16:00,348 --> 00:16:03,508 Speaker 10: stumbled upon where Ravens family members are staying in the 381 00:16:03,508 --> 00:16:05,708 Speaker 10: city of London, and Kyle was there to catch a 382 00:16:05,748 --> 00:16:08,268 Speaker 10: bus back out to the team hotel, which is outside 383 00:16:08,268 --> 00:16:10,788 Speaker 10: of London. On their social media pages, I could see 384 00:16:10,868 --> 00:16:13,588 Speaker 10: Lamar Jackson was out doing some shopping in London, as 385 00:16:13,628 --> 00:16:16,068 Speaker 10: well as Rashad Bateman. Kyle, you know this story. When 386 00:16:16,068 --> 00:16:18,388 Speaker 10: we were abroad last year, we would jump in and 387 00:16:18,388 --> 00:16:21,068 Speaker 10: out of taxis here and ask who do you like 388 00:16:21,108 --> 00:16:23,108 Speaker 10: in the NFL, and the two names that always pop 389 00:16:23,188 --> 00:16:25,868 Speaker 10: up are Tom Brady and Odell Beckham Junior, who is 390 00:16:25,988 --> 00:16:28,228 Speaker 10: of course playing for the Ravens. Now he is with 391 00:16:28,308 --> 00:16:31,068 Speaker 10: the team. He had that nagging ankle injury that kept 392 00:16:31,108 --> 00:16:32,748 Speaker 10: him out of play over the last couple weeks. I 393 00:16:32,748 --> 00:16:35,628 Speaker 10: think he reaggravated it on Sunday, but he has traveled 394 00:16:35,628 --> 00:16:38,708 Speaker 10: to London with the team. However, I could not spot 395 00:16:38,788 --> 00:16:40,668 Speaker 10: him out in the town. He was not posting about it, 396 00:16:40,708 --> 00:16:43,388 Speaker 10: so maybe he was back at the team hotel receiving treatment. 397 00:16:43,508 --> 00:16:46,228 Speaker 10: Today I find myself outside of the Houses of Parliament 398 00:16:46,348 --> 00:16:48,628 Speaker 10: and that is Elizabeth Tower behind me with the big 399 00:16:48,628 --> 00:16:51,108 Speaker 10: ben chimes or the bell if you will inside, I 400 00:16:51,148 --> 00:16:53,388 Speaker 10: want to talk about Elizabeth Tower. She's about three hundred 401 00:16:53,388 --> 00:16:56,468 Speaker 10: feet tall. I learned really cool fact. In August, the 402 00:16:56,628 --> 00:17:00,028 Speaker 10: NFL sent an ocean liner over here for the five 403 00:17:00,148 --> 00:17:03,068 Speaker 10: teams that were preparing to play in London in August. 404 00:17:03,148 --> 00:17:04,828 Speaker 10: If you could get in October, if you could get 405 00:17:04,868 --> 00:17:07,588 Speaker 10: your equipment to New York. By August, the NFL was 406 00:17:07,668 --> 00:17:10,988 Speaker 10: shipping containers four teams over here with all their equipment. 407 00:17:11,028 --> 00:17:12,988 Speaker 10: So the Ravens a great article came out in the 408 00:17:13,028 --> 00:17:15,468 Speaker 10: athletic they were on the ball. They sent This is 409 00:17:15,468 --> 00:17:18,908 Speaker 10: the oddest thing. They sent four hundred electrical adapters and 410 00:17:18,988 --> 00:17:21,348 Speaker 10: converters to make sure everyone would be plugged in by 411 00:17:21,388 --> 00:17:23,548 Speaker 10: the time they got here, and their equipment trunks were 412 00:17:23,548 --> 00:17:27,108 Speaker 10: weighing up to three hundred and fifty pounds and ocean 413 00:17:27,108 --> 00:17:30,788 Speaker 10: liners typically one thousand feet long, so that was accommodating 414 00:17:30,828 --> 00:17:33,668 Speaker 10: five teams. Elizabeth Tower three hundred feet tall. So just 415 00:17:33,708 --> 00:17:35,908 Speaker 10: consider all that stuff that came over. That was back 416 00:17:35,908 --> 00:17:37,668 Speaker 10: in August, so these teams had to be on it. 417 00:17:37,748 --> 00:17:39,308 Speaker 10: And now the Ravens are all set up at their 418 00:17:39,348 --> 00:17:41,988 Speaker 10: team hotel ready to rock. They will have media availability 419 00:17:42,028 --> 00:17:44,348 Speaker 10: today with Lamar Jackson, and as a production we will 420 00:17:44,348 --> 00:17:46,148 Speaker 10: get pit to meeting with them as well tomorrow. 421 00:17:46,588 --> 00:17:48,028 Speaker 2: Four hundred adapters. 422 00:17:48,108 --> 00:17:49,788 Speaker 3: Why do they need so many adapters? 423 00:17:49,788 --> 00:17:49,948 Speaker 8: Though? 424 00:17:49,988 --> 00:17:50,428 Speaker 4: Four hundred? 425 00:17:50,508 --> 00:17:52,588 Speaker 3: What do they have going on that they need that many? 426 00:17:52,828 --> 00:17:55,188 Speaker 2: Got to say proactive of them. 427 00:17:55,508 --> 00:17:56,508 Speaker 4: I do love that all. 428 00:17:56,548 --> 00:17:59,068 Speaker 3: Right, Jamie, thank you so much. I love the idea 429 00:17:59,068 --> 00:18:02,468 Speaker 3: of you as a PI across London trying to track 430 00:18:02,508 --> 00:18:05,468 Speaker 3: down family members and where everyone to tell. 431 00:18:05,548 --> 00:18:08,148 Speaker 5: Minnoyd just signed with the Ravens so he could just 432 00:18:08,188 --> 00:18:08,748 Speaker 5: go to London. 433 00:18:08,788 --> 00:18:11,028 Speaker 2: Is that what this whole move was? This is what 434 00:18:11,028 --> 00:18:16,268 Speaker 2: it was, chess Pier. Yeah, Jamie, thank you. We'll talk 435 00:18:16,308 --> 00:18:17,308 Speaker 2: to you in a little bit. 436 00:18:18,068 --> 00:18:20,668 Speaker 4: Our next guest is not afraid to speak his mind. 437 00:18:20,708 --> 00:18:23,428 Speaker 4: It was a seventh round pick out of Syracuse last 438 00:18:23,468 --> 00:18:26,068 Speaker 4: season in set of franchise record and tackles. What you 439 00:18:26,188 --> 00:18:29,108 Speaker 4: doing this year? He's just leading the NFL with sixty 440 00:18:29,268 --> 00:18:32,508 Speaker 4: nine tackles. Please welcome back, friends of the show. Coast linebackers. 441 00:18:32,548 --> 00:18:35,988 Speaker 2: I hear Frank, what's going on? 442 00:18:36,068 --> 00:18:36,708 Speaker 8: Game? Appreciate you. 443 00:18:36,748 --> 00:18:38,908 Speaker 4: I having me today anytime. It's good to see you. 444 00:18:38,988 --> 00:18:39,188 Speaker 1: Now. 445 00:18:39,308 --> 00:18:41,308 Speaker 4: You guys just were able to beat Tennessee. You had 446 00:18:41,348 --> 00:18:43,988 Speaker 4: a huge fourth down stop. I want you to take 447 00:18:44,068 --> 00:18:46,268 Speaker 4: us through that play. And also, we've been talking about 448 00:18:46,308 --> 00:18:49,068 Speaker 4: the best linebackers in the league. We talked about Fred Warner, 449 00:18:49,348 --> 00:18:52,628 Speaker 4: we talked about Quincy Williams. Where do you feel you 450 00:18:52,708 --> 00:18:55,108 Speaker 4: stack up as far as linebackers in the NFL right now? 451 00:18:55,388 --> 00:18:57,108 Speaker 11: I mean I feel like, you know, based off of 452 00:18:57,108 --> 00:18:59,268 Speaker 11: the last year's production and just what I've been able 453 00:18:59,308 --> 00:19:00,988 Speaker 11: to put on tape this year, I feel like there's 454 00:19:01,028 --> 00:19:02,828 Speaker 11: no question you got to put me amongst the best. 455 00:19:03,388 --> 00:19:05,348 Speaker 11: You know, I feel like I lined room here in 456 00:19:05,348 --> 00:19:07,388 Speaker 11: Indianapolis has been the best in the league for a 457 00:19:07,388 --> 00:19:11,308 Speaker 11: long time, you know, with myself, d Atlanta EJ. You know, 458 00:19:11,428 --> 00:19:14,068 Speaker 11: Bobby Oh and you know just the different things we've 459 00:19:14,068 --> 00:19:15,588 Speaker 11: been been able to put on tape. But you know, 460 00:19:15,708 --> 00:19:18,348 Speaker 11: this past Sunday, I was able to have success. You know, 461 00:19:18,428 --> 00:19:20,988 Speaker 11: the team called my number, you know, one on one 462 00:19:21,348 --> 00:19:23,268 Speaker 11: situation for the game, and you know I was able 463 00:19:23,268 --> 00:19:24,108 Speaker 11: to come out Victoria. 464 00:19:24,268 --> 00:19:26,268 Speaker 2: So love that number forty four. 465 00:19:26,548 --> 00:19:29,148 Speaker 5: You really broke out last year with the tackles you had, 466 00:19:29,188 --> 00:19:30,548 Speaker 5: and then you had you on this show and the 467 00:19:30,588 --> 00:19:32,428 Speaker 5: offseason we fell in love with you. And now this year, 468 00:19:32,508 --> 00:19:34,708 Speaker 5: going into the season, there was the Jonathan Taylor stuff. 469 00:19:34,708 --> 00:19:36,868 Speaker 5: There was a rookie quarterback we don't know who's played. 470 00:19:36,868 --> 00:19:39,588 Speaker 5: A lot of people rode off this Indianapolis Colts team 471 00:19:39,628 --> 00:19:41,788 Speaker 5: before the season even started. Yet here we are, look 472 00:19:41,828 --> 00:19:44,108 Speaker 5: at your record, Look what you guys have going on. 473 00:19:44,308 --> 00:19:47,028 Speaker 5: Has that been a galvanizing factor amongst your locker room 474 00:19:47,068 --> 00:19:49,228 Speaker 5: that hey, maybe it's us against the world this year? 475 00:19:49,468 --> 00:19:51,908 Speaker 11: I mean yes, And though I've been this league long 476 00:19:52,028 --> 00:19:55,188 Speaker 11: enough to know how fast narratives changed, you know, you 477 00:19:55,188 --> 00:19:57,388 Speaker 11: you win a big game, everybody loves you. You lose 478 00:19:57,388 --> 00:19:59,548 Speaker 11: a bad game, and everybody's ready to throw you in 479 00:19:59,588 --> 00:19:59,988 Speaker 11: the trash. 480 00:20:00,068 --> 00:20:01,788 Speaker 8: So we know the highs and lows of the year. 481 00:20:02,228 --> 00:20:04,708 Speaker 11: I think, you know, with Koch Shane coming in bringing 482 00:20:04,708 --> 00:20:08,268 Speaker 11: in fresh perspective, you know, just fresh opportunity, fresh eyes, 483 00:20:08,788 --> 00:20:10,988 Speaker 11: and just a new culture just coming in, you know, 484 00:20:11,028 --> 00:20:13,468 Speaker 11: And I feel like it's just full of competitive young 485 00:20:13,508 --> 00:20:15,948 Speaker 11: guys and veterans who've been around this league and made 486 00:20:15,948 --> 00:20:18,188 Speaker 11: plays over and over again. So I feel like we 487 00:20:18,268 --> 00:20:20,228 Speaker 11: just got a great roster. I mean, I feel like 488 00:20:20,388 --> 00:20:22,068 Speaker 11: in our building, we know who we are, and we 489 00:20:22,108 --> 00:20:24,028 Speaker 11: trust who we are. You know, we trust our leaders, 490 00:20:24,028 --> 00:20:26,428 Speaker 11: we trust our team, we trust our QB. And you know, 491 00:20:26,548 --> 00:20:28,508 Speaker 11: if you don't believe in us, you know before you're 492 00:20:28,508 --> 00:20:29,268 Speaker 11: gonna believe in us. 493 00:20:29,268 --> 00:20:32,348 Speaker 2: Now, Okay, we talked. We talked about Shane Stike in 494 00:20:32,388 --> 00:20:33,108 Speaker 2: first year coaching. 495 00:20:33,148 --> 00:20:34,708 Speaker 4: We discussed should he be the coach of the year. 496 00:20:34,788 --> 00:20:36,828 Speaker 5: How would you describe Shane in his first season in 497 00:20:36,828 --> 00:20:38,668 Speaker 5: Indianapolis and when he's brought to the team. 498 00:20:38,828 --> 00:20:43,148 Speaker 11: Man is extremely competitive, loves ball, It's all about ball, 499 00:20:44,428 --> 00:20:48,708 Speaker 11: and just really just knows how to motivate and lead men. 500 00:20:48,908 --> 00:20:51,268 Speaker 11: You know, I feel like since Shane's came in, he 501 00:20:51,428 --> 00:20:55,948 Speaker 11: just established a culture of competition, of guys, of accountability, 502 00:20:56,628 --> 00:20:58,708 Speaker 11: you know, of trying to be your best and really 503 00:20:58,788 --> 00:21:00,708 Speaker 11: just give me off for the team. And I think 504 00:21:00,708 --> 00:21:03,508 Speaker 11: it's just infectious in our locker room. It's infectious on 505 00:21:03,548 --> 00:21:06,548 Speaker 11: game day. And you know, I feel like, you know, 506 00:21:06,588 --> 00:21:07,908 Speaker 11: his guys off to an early start. 507 00:21:08,188 --> 00:21:10,508 Speaker 1: It's fun to watch, man, it really really is. It's 508 00:21:10,548 --> 00:21:12,428 Speaker 1: also fun to see twenty eight back in the building. 509 00:21:12,508 --> 00:21:16,348 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. Interesting couple of weeks. I guess the early 510 00:21:16,388 --> 00:21:18,108 Speaker 1: start the season, he wants to get paid. 511 00:21:18,148 --> 00:21:18,668 Speaker 2: We get it. 512 00:21:18,908 --> 00:21:22,228 Speaker 1: He goes away, he comes back, he gets paid, congratulations. 513 00:21:22,268 --> 00:21:24,068 Speaker 1: And then the second he gets paid, Zach Moss has 514 00:21:24,068 --> 00:21:26,748 Speaker 1: eight hundred yards rushing. Listen, speak to him as a person, 515 00:21:26,868 --> 00:21:28,988 Speaker 1: as a player. He got the big contract. And we 516 00:21:29,028 --> 00:21:31,388 Speaker 1: love Jonathan Taylor here. You see him on the field 517 00:21:31,388 --> 00:21:33,468 Speaker 1: every day you go against him. Why is he worth it? 518 00:21:33,788 --> 00:21:34,268 Speaker 8: Oh? Man? 519 00:21:34,388 --> 00:21:38,468 Speaker 11: JT is just that rare combination home run hitting speed, 520 00:21:39,068 --> 00:21:44,428 Speaker 11: elite footwork, elite vision, the power to run through arm tackles. Man, 521 00:21:44,468 --> 00:21:47,268 Speaker 11: he just makes everybody better. You know, I feel like, 522 00:21:47,348 --> 00:21:50,628 Speaker 11: you know, obviously knowing JT since we've been in the league. 523 00:21:50,628 --> 00:21:51,908 Speaker 8: Man, he's just a great person. 524 00:21:52,028 --> 00:21:57,148 Speaker 11: He's a truly a team guy and truly selfless. And 525 00:21:57,308 --> 00:21:59,628 Speaker 11: you know, obviously we were just all happy and celebrated. 526 00:21:59,708 --> 00:22:01,428 Speaker 11: You know when he was able to get that big payday. 527 00:22:01,468 --> 00:22:04,588 Speaker 11: Everybody in the building was always behind it. Always he 528 00:22:04,668 --> 00:22:06,908 Speaker 11: deserved it, always was there and just understood what he 529 00:22:06,908 --> 00:22:09,548 Speaker 11: brought to the table. And you know, just seeing him 530 00:22:09,628 --> 00:22:11,908 Speaker 11: running out that tunnel on Sunday, man, it just put 531 00:22:11,908 --> 00:22:13,668 Speaker 11: the extra better in our back knowing that we got 532 00:22:13,668 --> 00:22:15,668 Speaker 11: our guy back and then we could be ready to roll. 533 00:22:15,708 --> 00:22:19,748 Speaker 11: But you know, just like just like this, the script said, 534 00:22:19,868 --> 00:22:21,748 Speaker 11: you know, Zach Mauls decided that you know, it was 535 00:22:21,788 --> 00:22:23,548 Speaker 11: still his time to shine. He had to pop out 536 00:22:23,588 --> 00:22:24,868 Speaker 11: for the one seventy on the ground. 537 00:22:25,028 --> 00:22:30,428 Speaker 3: Shout out to Zach Zaire Ziggi Smalls is a tremendous 538 00:22:30,508 --> 00:22:34,228 Speaker 3: name on social I absolutely love it. Second, you obviously 539 00:22:34,308 --> 00:22:36,268 Speaker 3: know that your team is tied for first place with 540 00:22:36,348 --> 00:22:40,628 Speaker 3: Jacksonville your next opponent, and it's very important for tiebreakers. 541 00:22:40,748 --> 00:22:41,588 Speaker 2: YadA, YadA, YadA. 542 00:22:41,588 --> 00:22:42,748 Speaker 4: I'm supposed to ask about. 543 00:22:42,548 --> 00:22:44,788 Speaker 3: Your approach this week, but I'm way too distracted by 544 00:22:44,988 --> 00:22:47,628 Speaker 3: your fundraiser that you had yesterday at Hogies and Hops 545 00:22:47,628 --> 00:22:49,628 Speaker 3: and the fact that a cheese steak is named after 546 00:22:49,668 --> 00:22:51,348 Speaker 3: you there, and I just kind of want to know 547 00:22:51,348 --> 00:22:53,908 Speaker 3: if you had input into that and why it's important 548 00:22:53,948 --> 00:22:56,348 Speaker 3: that the bread is flown in from New Jersey. 549 00:22:57,108 --> 00:22:58,188 Speaker 8: Oh well, first. 550 00:22:58,068 --> 00:23:00,748 Speaker 11: And foremost, the cheese steak all starts with the bread. 551 00:23:01,388 --> 00:23:03,548 Speaker 11: You know, as a cheese steak kind of sore myself. 552 00:23:03,868 --> 00:23:07,108 Speaker 11: You know, I'm very well versed in in what makes 553 00:23:07,108 --> 00:23:10,668 Speaker 11: a good steak. So, yeah, Hogies and Hops, it's a 554 00:23:10,708 --> 00:23:13,068 Speaker 11: you know, a restaurant here, small business here out in 555 00:23:13,148 --> 00:23:15,788 Speaker 11: Broad Ripple with Indiana. You know, the owners from Jersey 556 00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:18,508 Speaker 11: gets the roads flown in every couple of weeks. And 557 00:23:18,628 --> 00:23:20,588 Speaker 11: you know, she just kind of was shouting out the 558 00:23:20,588 --> 00:23:22,228 Speaker 11: Philly guys and I asked her. I was like, hey, 559 00:23:22,268 --> 00:23:23,828 Speaker 11: what did it take to get my own cheese steak there? 560 00:23:23,868 --> 00:23:25,388 Speaker 11: She was like, well, what's your order? You know, so 561 00:23:25,428 --> 00:23:27,908 Speaker 11: I had to let her know. Salt, pepper, ketchup, mayonnaise, 562 00:23:27,948 --> 00:23:30,908 Speaker 11: fried onions, and mustard. Please trust me with the mustard. 563 00:23:30,908 --> 00:23:31,788 Speaker 2: Everybody will give me. 564 00:23:31,788 --> 00:23:35,348 Speaker 11: Crazy when I say that. And yeah, you know it's 565 00:23:35,388 --> 00:23:37,188 Speaker 11: a hitting the building. It's a hitting the building. 566 00:23:37,228 --> 00:23:38,268 Speaker 4: I'm for saying so. 567 00:23:38,348 --> 00:23:41,228 Speaker 3: And the roles are from Lysio's Bakery, I think right, 568 00:23:41,308 --> 00:23:43,948 Speaker 3: And is that like a seated roll situation. I know 569 00:23:43,988 --> 00:23:45,668 Speaker 3: we're really going into a rabbit hole here, but I. 570 00:23:45,668 --> 00:23:46,948 Speaker 2: Must know delicious. 571 00:23:47,228 --> 00:23:49,308 Speaker 11: No, I don't know if I'm really a seated roll 572 00:23:49,388 --> 00:23:52,228 Speaker 11: on my cheese steak necessarily, but. 573 00:23:52,508 --> 00:23:54,188 Speaker 3: You know, to each of the own you do mayow 574 00:23:54,228 --> 00:23:54,788 Speaker 3: and mustard. 575 00:23:55,028 --> 00:23:57,428 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great. 576 00:23:57,468 --> 00:23:58,068 Speaker 2: Okay, that's great. 577 00:23:58,628 --> 00:24:01,228 Speaker 4: I love that. A little cheese steak talk earlier in 578 00:24:01,228 --> 00:24:03,668 Speaker 4: the morning. But right now, you're hosting a really fun 579 00:24:03,708 --> 00:24:07,428 Speaker 4: podcast called The Trenches. Show you sports, you talk culture, 580 00:24:07,548 --> 00:24:09,748 Speaker 4: and we actually have a clip of you talking about 581 00:24:09,828 --> 00:24:12,228 Speaker 4: sacking Lamar Jackson in week three. Let's take a listen. 582 00:24:12,468 --> 00:24:15,908 Speaker 2: After tasting him for years, I finally. 583 00:24:17,788 --> 00:24:22,628 Speaker 8: I finally caught him him like you've been running for years. Yeah, 584 00:24:22,668 --> 00:24:23,268 Speaker 8: that was that was. 585 00:24:26,988 --> 00:24:28,828 Speaker 4: Tell us about that moment in the game, and just 586 00:24:28,828 --> 00:24:30,908 Speaker 4: tell us a little bit more about the podcast as well. 587 00:24:31,108 --> 00:24:34,588 Speaker 11: Oh man, So you know, we were just obviously shout 588 00:24:34,588 --> 00:24:37,148 Speaker 11: out to E. J. Speed, my brother, shout out tell 589 00:24:37,188 --> 00:24:39,068 Speaker 11: my boy ten that's my line, brother. Yeah, we were 590 00:24:39,108 --> 00:24:41,388 Speaker 11: just you know, it's our podcast. Yeah, I mean we 591 00:24:41,388 --> 00:24:43,508 Speaker 11: were just talking about, you know, the battles that I've 592 00:24:43,548 --> 00:24:46,028 Speaker 11: had with Lamar over the years. You know, I know 593 00:24:46,228 --> 00:24:50,268 Speaker 11: Lamar far too well from our time at Syracuse, and 594 00:24:50,348 --> 00:24:52,148 Speaker 11: you know, we were just kind of talking. A bunch 595 00:24:52,148 --> 00:24:54,428 Speaker 11: of Baltimore fans were sending me a bunch of hate 596 00:24:54,428 --> 00:24:57,148 Speaker 11: tweets because I you know, I had Lamar's ankle at 597 00:24:57,148 --> 00:24:58,748 Speaker 11: the end of a play and I was just trying 598 00:24:58,748 --> 00:25:00,748 Speaker 11: to let him know. Look, it's nothing beloved and respect 599 00:25:00,748 --> 00:25:03,268 Speaker 11: from Lamar. You know, I knew him since twenty fifteen. 600 00:25:03,348 --> 00:25:05,868 Speaker 11: We met at media Day back in the day. You know, 601 00:25:06,068 --> 00:25:08,948 Speaker 11: he made my roommate up Forever highlight, you know, when 602 00:25:08,948 --> 00:25:10,668 Speaker 11: he heard him in the end zone. So it's just 603 00:25:10,708 --> 00:25:12,548 Speaker 11: like as much as I got respect for him, you know, 604 00:25:12,588 --> 00:25:14,788 Speaker 11: the dude scored four touchdowns in the quarter on me once. 605 00:25:15,028 --> 00:25:17,188 Speaker 11: So I'm not that friendly with him when it comes 606 00:25:17,228 --> 00:25:20,948 Speaker 11: to the football terms. But you know, definitely, you know, 607 00:25:20,988 --> 00:25:23,108 Speaker 11: we just on the podcast is laughing, you know, just 608 00:25:23,148 --> 00:25:25,548 Speaker 11: trying to get fans insight to you know what it means. 609 00:25:25,988 --> 00:25:28,108 Speaker 11: You know, me and EJ both you know, third day 610 00:25:28,108 --> 00:25:30,748 Speaker 11: three guys, both special team guys who was able to 611 00:25:30,988 --> 00:25:33,148 Speaker 11: kick in the door and carve our way into this league. 612 00:25:33,348 --> 00:25:35,148 Speaker 11: And you know, we're just trying to get that perspective 613 00:25:35,148 --> 00:25:35,748 Speaker 11: to the league. 614 00:25:35,908 --> 00:25:39,548 Speaker 4: I love that big Joe Buddens fan, Jersey guyra Hair Zion, 615 00:25:39,588 --> 00:25:40,908 Speaker 4: would you think of a new Drake album? 616 00:25:40,988 --> 00:25:44,308 Speaker 11: Yep, I'm new, y'all is gonna ask me, y'all funny. 617 00:25:44,348 --> 00:25:49,108 Speaker 11: I think I think both of them. I think both 618 00:25:49,148 --> 00:25:52,308 Speaker 11: of them are wrong. I think Joe hasn't learned that. 619 00:25:52,468 --> 00:25:54,548 Speaker 11: You know, when Drake drops the album, we all hate 620 00:25:54,588 --> 00:25:56,468 Speaker 11: it for a month, and then the second month we 621 00:25:56,548 --> 00:25:57,948 Speaker 11: all can't stop listening to it. 622 00:25:57,988 --> 00:25:59,548 Speaker 8: That's just typically how that goes. 623 00:25:59,588 --> 00:26:01,788 Speaker 11: And I think Drake just got to stop being a 624 00:26:01,788 --> 00:26:04,388 Speaker 11: little sensitive. When you're great, people are going to critique you. 625 00:26:04,468 --> 00:26:07,268 Speaker 11: That's just a part of greatness. So they'll both be okay. 626 00:26:07,828 --> 00:26:09,868 Speaker 4: I love it Zion making tackles on the field, giving 627 00:26:09,988 --> 00:26:12,188 Speaker 4: music takes off at Zire. Anytime you want to come 628 00:26:12,188 --> 00:26:14,068 Speaker 4: through South through the breakfast table man, love. 629 00:26:13,908 --> 00:26:17,188 Speaker 3: It, man, enjoy the Phillies game, ring the bell. 630 00:26:17,388 --> 00:26:19,788 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, right, October, appreciate it. Thank you guys for 631 00:26:19,828 --> 00:26:20,188 Speaker 8: having me. 632 00:26:20,988 --> 00:26:25,708 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, thank you, really good. 633 00:26:39,108 --> 00:26:42,028 Speaker 2: All right, We've got a huge matchup coming Sunday. 634 00:26:42,108 --> 00:26:44,348 Speaker 3: The four and one Lions head down to Tampa to 635 00:26:44,388 --> 00:26:47,548 Speaker 3: take on the three and one Buccaneers, and these two 636 00:26:47,628 --> 00:26:51,108 Speaker 3: quarterbacks have been delivering so far this season. Both Chaired 637 00:26:51,148 --> 00:26:54,108 Speaker 3: Golf and Baker Mayfield have been top ten quarterbacks so far. 638 00:26:54,348 --> 00:26:58,268 Speaker 3: And look, the excitement is definitely real for both fan bases. 639 00:26:58,308 --> 00:27:01,508 Speaker 3: It's very genuine. What's the better story so far between 640 00:27:01,508 --> 00:27:03,788 Speaker 3: these two teams? Is it the Lions or is it 641 00:27:03,828 --> 00:27:04,308 Speaker 3: the Bucks? 642 00:27:04,828 --> 00:27:06,548 Speaker 2: Can I first, just for a second, take a little 643 00:27:06,548 --> 00:27:07,028 Speaker 2: step back. 644 00:27:07,108 --> 00:27:09,028 Speaker 5: If I was to tell you guys in August that 645 00:27:09,108 --> 00:27:11,988 Speaker 5: the game of the week in the NFL is the 646 00:27:12,108 --> 00:27:14,308 Speaker 5: Lions at Buccaneers in Tampa Bay. And it was so 647 00:27:14,388 --> 00:27:16,828 Speaker 5: good that the NFL flexed it from a one o'clock 648 00:27:16,868 --> 00:27:18,788 Speaker 5: start and said, let's give that to a better window, 649 00:27:18,828 --> 00:27:21,108 Speaker 5: put it in a four to thirty GA. So there's 650 00:27:21,108 --> 00:27:23,068 Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of cool storylines going to living. 651 00:27:23,268 --> 00:27:25,668 Speaker 5: The Buccaneers are gonna be rocking the creamsicles. 652 00:27:25,708 --> 00:27:26,428 Speaker 2: That's a huge deal. 653 00:27:26,468 --> 00:27:26,708 Speaker 8: That's it. 654 00:27:26,868 --> 00:27:28,628 Speaker 2: That's enough, let's stop the segment. 655 00:27:28,708 --> 00:27:31,108 Speaker 5: But like it's event, this is the biggest box regular 656 00:27:31,148 --> 00:27:32,988 Speaker 5: season game of the year so far. This is where 657 00:27:33,028 --> 00:27:35,348 Speaker 5: we see if they're just a fun story coming off 658 00:27:35,348 --> 00:27:37,028 Speaker 5: the buy or if they're the real deal. And yet, 659 00:27:37,068 --> 00:27:39,948 Speaker 5: the Lions to me are the better story this season. 660 00:27:40,028 --> 00:27:43,068 Speaker 5: Why because there was some crazy hype and some crazy 661 00:27:43,108 --> 00:27:46,348 Speaker 5: buzz about the Lions all off season, so crazy that 662 00:27:46,388 --> 00:27:50,308 Speaker 5: they became the NFC North favorites. And guys, they've not 663 00:27:50,348 --> 00:27:53,428 Speaker 5: only lived up to the hype, they've exceeded expectations. 664 00:27:54,188 --> 00:27:56,388 Speaker 2: They're in first place and it is a one horse 665 00:27:56,508 --> 00:27:57,148 Speaker 2: race right now. 666 00:27:57,268 --> 00:27:58,988 Speaker 5: They are four and one in the NFC North and 667 00:27:58,988 --> 00:28:01,708 Speaker 5: they look like they belong in that conversation with the 668 00:28:01,788 --> 00:28:02,828 Speaker 5: Niners and the Eagles. 669 00:28:02,908 --> 00:28:04,668 Speaker 2: I mean, that's how good they look right now. 670 00:28:04,748 --> 00:28:07,708 Speaker 5: They have a defense, they have an offense, they have 671 00:28:07,748 --> 00:28:08,748 Speaker 5: special teams, and. 672 00:28:08,708 --> 00:28:09,468 Speaker 2: They have depth. 673 00:28:10,108 --> 00:28:12,748 Speaker 5: It's like every week we're learning about a new Lions 674 00:28:12,988 --> 00:28:16,068 Speaker 5: Khalif Raymond is making big plays, and then it's Laporta 675 00:28:16,228 --> 00:28:18,508 Speaker 5: making the big play. And then if it's not Athon Hutchinson, 676 00:28:18,908 --> 00:28:19,948 Speaker 5: well then it's our guy Isa. 677 00:28:19,988 --> 00:28:21,148 Speaker 2: They have bull bugs. 678 00:28:22,548 --> 00:28:24,788 Speaker 5: They get injured, and they have other guys like Aman Ross, 679 00:28:24,788 --> 00:28:27,068 Speaker 5: Saint Brown and Jamier Gibbs did not play last week 680 00:28:27,108 --> 00:28:28,388 Speaker 5: and it did not affect them. 681 00:28:28,428 --> 00:28:28,988 Speaker 2: That's great. 682 00:28:29,028 --> 00:28:31,628 Speaker 5: They continued to roll. They were like, we've got other guys. 683 00:28:31,628 --> 00:28:34,508 Speaker 5: We're gonna be just fine. All the spotlight has been 684 00:28:34,668 --> 00:28:37,708 Speaker 5: on this awesome start. For Baker Mayfield, and I appreciate 685 00:28:37,748 --> 00:28:39,308 Speaker 5: that it has been such a cool story out of 686 00:28:39,308 --> 00:28:41,588 Speaker 5: Tampa Bay, But for the Lions to actually meet the 687 00:28:41,628 --> 00:28:43,868 Speaker 5: expectations that we put on them in August and all 688 00:28:43,908 --> 00:28:47,228 Speaker 5: that like fantasy football hype, and then I'll be like, yeah, no, no, 689 00:28:47,268 --> 00:28:48,068 Speaker 5: we are that good. 690 00:28:48,268 --> 00:28:49,308 Speaker 2: I think that's somebody be said for that. 691 00:28:49,348 --> 00:28:50,868 Speaker 5: They started the season with a winning arrowhead and the 692 00:28:50,908 --> 00:28:53,108 Speaker 5: only team to beat the Chiefs, obviously, but to then 693 00:28:53,508 --> 00:28:55,628 Speaker 5: lose to the Seahawks and everyone be like, all right, 694 00:28:55,708 --> 00:28:58,268 Speaker 5: that's the Lions, and then bounce back and just have 695 00:28:58,388 --> 00:29:00,908 Speaker 5: these dominant wins the last few weeks. They're for real 696 00:29:01,028 --> 00:29:03,588 Speaker 5: four and one. I think they are the better story 697 00:29:03,668 --> 00:29:05,908 Speaker 5: for than the Buccaneer because their history has just told us, 698 00:29:05,988 --> 00:29:08,148 Speaker 5: do not get excited about the Lions, then they're gonna 699 00:29:08,148 --> 00:29:09,548 Speaker 5: break your heart somehow, Well they haven't. 700 00:29:09,588 --> 00:29:11,148 Speaker 2: They've been great and it's been a pleasure to watch. 701 00:29:11,388 --> 00:29:13,308 Speaker 4: It's been really cool to see it because to your point, 702 00:29:13,308 --> 00:29:15,908 Speaker 4: everybody's like, ah, it's the Lions, so you and they've 703 00:29:15,908 --> 00:29:17,508 Speaker 4: lived up to it. But I'm still going with the 704 00:29:17,548 --> 00:29:19,908 Speaker 4: Tampa Talconeers. I think you look at the Lions, you 705 00:29:19,988 --> 00:29:21,948 Speaker 4: look at the way they finished last season astray. As 706 00:29:21,988 --> 00:29:24,228 Speaker 4: you mentioned it, all the hype we had in the offseason, 707 00:29:24,268 --> 00:29:26,628 Speaker 4: the Lions were a team that we were talking about 708 00:29:26,668 --> 00:29:29,548 Speaker 4: when anticipation of them being good. Jared Goff continued to 709 00:29:29,588 --> 00:29:32,228 Speaker 4: be good, the offensive coordinator Ben Johnson being really good. 710 00:29:32,428 --> 00:29:34,588 Speaker 4: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers was supposed to be what the 711 00:29:34,668 --> 00:29:36,588 Speaker 4: Rams were last year. It was like, all right, for 712 00:29:36,668 --> 00:29:39,468 Speaker 4: the last few years, we've gone all in. We've had Brady, 713 00:29:39,508 --> 00:29:42,388 Speaker 4: we spent a ton of money. This year it's a reset. Yes, 714 00:29:42,428 --> 00:29:44,108 Speaker 4: we're gonna bring bakery and we have him, we have 715 00:29:44,188 --> 00:29:47,348 Speaker 4: Kyle Trash. But this team isn't expected to do much. 716 00:29:47,708 --> 00:29:49,988 Speaker 4: And now here we are going into Week six and 717 00:29:50,068 --> 00:29:53,188 Speaker 4: they're sitting on top of their division after beating up 718 00:29:53,188 --> 00:29:55,108 Speaker 4: on the Saints and going into their bie week. So 719 00:29:55,148 --> 00:29:57,788 Speaker 4: I look at them, not only are they surprised of 720 00:29:57,828 --> 00:30:00,628 Speaker 4: how they play, but it's kind of the unsung heroes. 721 00:30:00,828 --> 00:30:03,148 Speaker 4: I said yesterday. Baker Mayfield last year went on the 722 00:30:03,148 --> 00:30:06,308 Speaker 4: World Tour playing quarter back at different organizations, and then 723 00:30:06,388 --> 00:30:08,588 Speaker 4: Todd Bowles was kind of the forgotten head coach. 724 00:30:08,628 --> 00:30:10,068 Speaker 2: He had his chance with the Jets. 725 00:30:10,068 --> 00:30:12,068 Speaker 4: Then he comes over as a good defensive coordinator for 726 00:30:12,108 --> 00:30:15,108 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay. But when Bruce Arian steps away, We're like, ah, 727 00:30:15,588 --> 00:30:17,108 Speaker 4: are we getting much from Tom Bowles? 728 00:30:17,108 --> 00:30:17,308 Speaker 8: Can he? 729 00:30:17,428 --> 00:30:20,188 Speaker 4: Can he actually deliver? And they've been fun as hell 730 00:30:20,228 --> 00:30:21,588 Speaker 4: to watch and got beat up on a little bit 731 00:30:21,628 --> 00:30:23,428 Speaker 4: by the Eagles, but then they stepped back up and 732 00:30:23,468 --> 00:30:25,668 Speaker 4: continue to perform. So I would say it's Tampa Bay 733 00:30:25,828 --> 00:30:27,868 Speaker 4: because I love a story that you didn't know was 734 00:30:27,908 --> 00:30:30,468 Speaker 4: going to be a story before the start of the season. 735 00:30:30,748 --> 00:30:32,508 Speaker 1: I like the Tampa Bay story a lot too, and 736 00:30:32,548 --> 00:30:34,668 Speaker 1: I think that the star of that story. I really 737 00:30:34,748 --> 00:30:36,988 Speaker 1: do think it's Baker Mayfield is the number one overall 738 00:30:37,028 --> 00:30:38,668 Speaker 1: pick and the Heisman and just what a weird career 739 00:30:39,108 --> 00:30:41,708 Speaker 1: like if he finds home And yeah, I still think 740 00:30:41,748 --> 00:30:43,148 Speaker 1: it's Detroit Tampa. 741 00:30:43,228 --> 00:30:45,028 Speaker 2: Like Tampa won a Super Bowl a couple of years ago. 742 00:30:45,108 --> 00:30:46,268 Speaker 2: You know, they won the whole thing. 743 00:30:46,588 --> 00:30:49,548 Speaker 1: This is like, you know, Robert Downey Junior, Sean Penn 744 00:30:49,588 --> 00:30:52,308 Speaker 1: like has a huge, victorious, successful movie. 745 00:30:52,348 --> 00:30:53,628 Speaker 2: They won the Oscar a couple of years ago. 746 00:30:53,868 --> 00:30:57,188 Speaker 1: The Lions would be like David Hasselhoff or something like, 747 00:30:57,268 --> 00:31:01,908 Speaker 1: oh my god, they it's incredible And Polly Show's back. 748 00:31:01,948 --> 00:31:03,508 Speaker 1: He wants to play Richard Simmons in the movie he's like, 749 00:31:03,508 --> 00:31:05,508 Speaker 1: I could win the Oscars, like dead serious about it. 750 00:31:05,588 --> 00:31:07,148 Speaker 1: So that's the Lions, and I try not to hold 751 00:31:07,188 --> 00:31:08,708 Speaker 1: their history against them, but you know what, never mind 752 00:31:08,748 --> 00:31:11,748 Speaker 1: the history. This Peter's on it in August. You can 753 00:31:11,828 --> 00:31:14,788 Speaker 1: go to the draft folders of every one of us, 754 00:31:14,828 --> 00:31:17,748 Speaker 1: every writer and maybe literally or even just the psychological 755 00:31:17,828 --> 00:31:22,068 Speaker 1: draft folders, and all the disappointing Lions' stories were already 756 00:31:22,068 --> 00:31:26,708 Speaker 1: written and conceptualized. Jared Goff is mid. You know, their 757 00:31:26,748 --> 00:31:28,908 Speaker 1: coach is not a coach. He's a character, but he's 758 00:31:28,948 --> 00:31:32,348 Speaker 1: not a real coach. The GM embarrassed himself with the draft, 759 00:31:32,388 --> 00:31:33,148 Speaker 1: and there's video. 760 00:31:32,948 --> 00:31:33,668 Speaker 8: Of him pounding the. 761 00:31:33,668 --> 00:31:37,508 Speaker 1: Table, and all the players are ridiculous, the defense is overrated, 762 00:31:37,948 --> 00:31:38,788 Speaker 1: same old. 763 00:31:38,548 --> 00:31:41,588 Speaker 2: Lions, and just none of that is true. None of 764 00:31:41,628 --> 00:31:44,068 Speaker 2: that is true. I think it is so cool and so. 765 00:31:44,108 --> 00:31:46,828 Speaker 1: Refreshing that they're not only like, yeah, they're they're relevant. 766 00:31:46,868 --> 00:31:49,188 Speaker 2: They're they're three and two. No, they're four and one. 767 00:31:49,628 --> 00:31:51,988 Speaker 1: They kicked the crap out of the Panthers last week. 768 00:31:52,388 --> 00:31:54,428 Speaker 2: The Lions dominate. They're not eking it out. 769 00:31:54,668 --> 00:31:56,548 Speaker 1: I think I said yesterday, I think they are number 770 00:31:56,628 --> 00:32:00,748 Speaker 1: three team in the NFL. I have niners, I have Eagles, 771 00:32:00,788 --> 00:32:01,988 Speaker 1: and I have Batman's team. 772 00:32:02,028 --> 00:32:03,028 Speaker 2: The Lions in the. 773 00:32:03,108 --> 00:32:05,628 Speaker 1: Whole NFL, I mean, is better than any team in 774 00:32:05,668 --> 00:32:07,788 Speaker 1: the AFC right now, the Detroit Lions. 775 00:32:08,028 --> 00:32:10,028 Speaker 2: And here's the thing, there is one thing that they 776 00:32:10,108 --> 00:32:11,628 Speaker 2: need to change about the story. 777 00:32:11,908 --> 00:32:15,028 Speaker 1: They got to get Jamier Gibs involved because it's you know. 778 00:32:14,948 --> 00:32:16,388 Speaker 2: The David Montcomy thing has been great. 779 00:32:16,668 --> 00:32:19,388 Speaker 1: They did draft him really early and the returns have 780 00:32:19,468 --> 00:32:21,908 Speaker 1: not been there. And we've seen some other rookies who 781 00:32:21,908 --> 00:32:23,628 Speaker 1: have performed, and we've seen some guys that could have 782 00:32:23,668 --> 00:32:25,948 Speaker 1: taken who performed. We need to get him involved. I 783 00:32:25,988 --> 00:32:27,668 Speaker 1: know he was hurt last week. Even before that, he 784 00:32:27,708 --> 00:32:30,308 Speaker 1: wasn't a huge factor. So we talk about the ingenuity 785 00:32:30,348 --> 00:32:32,268 Speaker 1: of their offense not succexful. It's we got to get 786 00:32:32,308 --> 00:32:34,908 Speaker 1: him out there because maybe if you do that, they're 787 00:32:34,908 --> 00:32:37,588 Speaker 1: even better than they've been. But it's starting to become 788 00:32:37,668 --> 00:32:39,308 Speaker 1: a The silence is definitely for. 789 00:32:39,388 --> 00:32:41,908 Speaker 2: Eighteen week season. Yeah, still working it out. 790 00:32:41,948 --> 00:32:44,788 Speaker 5: Montgomery is a pro and the blocking is a key 791 00:32:44,868 --> 00:32:46,908 Speaker 5: issue here, and it's like they're four and one and 792 00:32:46,908 --> 00:32:48,028 Speaker 5: they'll get him involved. 793 00:32:47,748 --> 00:32:49,628 Speaker 1: And Beijeon's running around. It looks like a superstar, Like 794 00:32:49,628 --> 00:32:51,268 Speaker 1: we got to get him involved. I want to see 795 00:32:51,308 --> 00:32:51,748 Speaker 1: him out. 796 00:32:51,588 --> 00:32:51,948 Speaker 2: There, you know. 797 00:32:52,148 --> 00:32:53,908 Speaker 3: For the Lions, I just feel like I love the 798 00:32:53,948 --> 00:32:56,748 Speaker 3: fact that it's sort of this redemption story, like they 799 00:32:56,828 --> 00:33:01,268 Speaker 3: actually have delivered on coming around and being good and improving. 800 00:33:01,308 --> 00:33:03,628 Speaker 3: Because there's so many teams like the Chargers that it 801 00:33:03,708 --> 00:33:05,868 Speaker 3: just feels like we're gonna keep doing this. We're doing 802 00:33:05,948 --> 00:33:08,308 Speaker 3: this again, the Vikings and even last year they were 803 00:33:08,348 --> 00:33:10,108 Speaker 3: on the other side of all those wins, but it's 804 00:33:10,108 --> 00:33:12,668 Speaker 3: like this year we're back, like and I want these 805 00:33:12,708 --> 00:33:14,788 Speaker 3: teams that are bad to be good because it's so 806 00:33:14,908 --> 00:33:17,988 Speaker 3: much better when there's more good teams out there and 807 00:33:18,028 --> 00:33:21,468 Speaker 3: the Lions are actually doing it, and it makes me 808 00:33:21,988 --> 00:33:24,748 Speaker 3: so happy. I feel proud in a way because which 809 00:33:24,868 --> 00:33:26,948 Speaker 3: kind of like you know, one pride or whatever, like 810 00:33:27,028 --> 00:33:30,588 Speaker 3: it makes sense to me mine are, you know, after 811 00:33:30,628 --> 00:33:33,588 Speaker 3: doing the Hard Knocks podcast last year and this year 812 00:33:33,668 --> 00:33:36,108 Speaker 3: with the Jets, but I almost feel like a proud 813 00:33:36,188 --> 00:33:39,028 Speaker 3: parent having watched them grow up and I bought it, 814 00:33:39,988 --> 00:33:42,668 Speaker 3: i know, like on the ground floor. And it's just 815 00:33:42,708 --> 00:33:45,268 Speaker 3: like they're taking that narrative that they can't be good 816 00:33:45,348 --> 00:33:47,508 Speaker 3: and completely giving it a dirt nap. 817 00:33:47,308 --> 00:33:47,788 Speaker 2: Like that's it. 818 00:33:47,788 --> 00:33:48,308 Speaker 4: It's done. 819 00:33:48,348 --> 00:33:51,028 Speaker 3: Like we were we move past that. The defense is 820 00:33:51,068 --> 00:33:53,348 Speaker 3: now coming around the corner start at the second half 821 00:33:53,388 --> 00:33:56,908 Speaker 3: of last season now continues Aaron Glenn as a head 822 00:33:56,908 --> 00:33:57,748 Speaker 3: coaching candidate. 823 00:33:58,068 --> 00:33:59,108 Speaker 4: Let's get that going. 824 00:33:59,268 --> 00:34:00,828 Speaker 3: I mean you know that that's going to be a 825 00:34:00,908 --> 00:34:04,828 Speaker 3: huge storyline and well deserved because this team is playing well. 826 00:34:05,108 --> 00:34:08,068 Speaker 3: They have a personalities and it's just like their city 827 00:34:08,108 --> 00:34:11,308 Speaker 3: and I love it. So there's that word to me 828 00:34:11,388 --> 00:34:12,148 Speaker 3: on the way guys. 829 00:34:12,188 --> 00:34:18,788 Speaker 1: Oh yeah,