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Speaker 2: show for you guys today we have Yo bah Booja

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Speaker 2: from the Athletic covers. The Lakers been traveling around with

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Speaker 2: the team. Those of you guys who've been listening into

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Speaker 2: our show, you guys know yovonn Well, he's been on

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Speaker 2: Gosh like almost probably like seven or eight times already

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Speaker 2: this season. But I could think of nobody better to

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Speaker 2: dive into the developments of the last twenty four to

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Speaker 2: forty eight hours of the Los Angeles Lakers making no

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Speaker 2: moves at the trade deadline despite some pretty significant roster needs.

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Speaker 3: Punt is a.

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Speaker 2: Strong word, but in a lot of ways, the Lakers

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Speaker 2: were basically telling us they did not believe in this

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Speaker 2: particular group and their ability to accomplish much within this

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Speaker 2: postseason this postseason. But there's also, as I've said a

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Speaker 2: couple times over the last couple of days, there's always

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a tricky element to talking about

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Speaker 2: the trade deadline for any team because we never really

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Speaker 2: know what was available. We never really know what options

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Speaker 2: There's a certain rose colored glasses perspective you're always going

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Speaker 2: to get. So what I'd like for yovonn for you

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Speaker 2: of everything that went down with the Lake Overs the

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Speaker 2: last couple of days. Can you just kind of give

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Speaker 2: us a quick synopsis of why the Lakers did nothing,

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Speaker 2: what the last couple of days were like, and what.

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Speaker 3: Their plan is in the big picture here. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, first off, I would say, I agree with you

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Speaker 1: with everything you just said. I was very surprised by

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Speaker 1: So I was surprised that nothing happened. But from what

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Speaker 1: hundreds of calls and different offers, but nothing to them

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Speaker 2: The thing that's tricky with me is because I heard

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Speaker 2: then as of late they've been playing some pretty damn

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Speaker 2: really did some damage to themselves just on the effort, focus,

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Speaker 2: do I think that the Lakers are a you know,

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Speaker 2: thirty five and fifteen team in reality? No, but I

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Speaker 2: And then specifically, they had a very clear weakness in

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Speaker 2: so again, like when I hear Laker fans say like, oh,

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Speaker 2: And so I'm surprised that they didn't just do something

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Speaker 2: do you think they truly were priced out of the

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a couple of things there.

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Speaker 1: Because one thing I reported, and this was another thing

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Speaker 1: that was the Lakers didn't have really any expiring contracts

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Speaker 1: Gabe has two more years coming off the knee surgery.

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Speaker 1: were a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Teams that had interest in Max.

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Speaker 1: It's just you have to factor that in now of

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Speaker 1: you potentially have to pay him a certain amount that

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then you know JHS has multiple years and like

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Speaker 1: But part two, I do think they could have made

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Speaker 2: It's just a very clear and specific roster weakness that

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Speaker 2: of the shots that Jamal hit over the Celtics that

434
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 2: in that game in Boston. That was he came off

435
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 2: free and clear, and Torrian wasn't even slightly bothering him.

436
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 2: And so again, like having having another athlete at that

437
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 2: at that guard position, I think would be it would

438
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: be useful do you think Lebron is frustrated? Is he

439
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 2: outwardly frustrated or has it been quiet on the Lebron front?

440
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 2: What are you hearing about Lebron in his kind of

441
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 2: mood post deadline?

442
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 3: He was a bit moody last night.

443
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,239
Speaker 1: His answers were short, and it's tough to separate that

444
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: from another close loss to day. LA's lost seven straight

445
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: games to Denver. Now it's kind of becoming you know,

446
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 1: I was covering the Clippers and the mid twenty tens

447
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: and those matchup like well, once they beat the Warriors

448
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen in the first round. From that point on,

449
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: the Warriors became the Warriors, and then it was like,

450
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: no matter what, they just had this stranglehold over the Clippers,

451
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: and it, you know, mentally where it'd be close, tough

452
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: games and then all of a sudden, Golden State would

453
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: just execute in the fourth quarter and they'd beat the Clippers.

454
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: And it's starting to kind of feel like that with

455
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: this Lakers Nuggets matchup, where yet again we see another

456
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: game that goes down to crunch time and Denver just

457
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: out executes them over the last few minutes.

458
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 3: So I don't know how much of it. What was that?

459
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: But you know, I asked Lebron about Austin spoke first.

460
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: So Austin kind of mentioned that Denver kept running the

461
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: same action that the Lakers were aware of, they just

462
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: couldn't really stop it. So I asked Lebron, essentially, you know,

463
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: you guys, there's been a theme with you guys against

464
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: Denver where you know what they're running, and yet you

465
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: guys still can't stop it. Like how do you kind

466
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: of like learn from this experience and take the film

467
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 1: from tonight, especially those last few minutes, and apply it

468
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: moving forward. And then he kind of had this remark about, well,

469
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: you know, really good teams, you know, run the same

470
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: stuff in crunch time and they know what they're running,

471
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: and you know, and it was kind of I took

472
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: it as a little bit of a shot at the

473
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: Lakers crunch time offense, and you know, and he kind

474
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: of tends to take some of those sometimes, and he

475
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,719
Speaker 1: just wasn't in the best mood last night. And you know,

476
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: we didn't ask him about the trade deadline, which maybe

477
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: was a mistake on our part, but we had already

478
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: asked him about it. So, you know, several days in

479
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: a row and he was pretty clear that you know,

480
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: this is the team and I'm riding with my guys,

481
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: even if obviously on social media he hasn't necessarily been

482
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: as supportive with his U you know and stuff. So

483
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: I think I think there is a level of frustration

484
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: because to Lebron, like he doesn't care about a twenty

485
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: twenty nine first round pick, you know, to him that

486
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: that is a means to improve the roster. And again

487
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: we can debate whether a guy like how much of

488
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: an upgrade is a roy O'Neill over a Torrian Prince

489
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: or even if it's maybe flipping Gabe and you're giving

490
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: the first and maybe Brooklyn would have been more open

491
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: to that, like, you know, to Lebron, it's like, I

492
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: want to maximize this season. I want the Rock, Like

493
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: even if the roster is one percent better, that's what

494
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: I want, and that that is how he views things

495
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: at all times. So for him, you know, he wanted

496
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: the Lakers to make a move, and I think them

497
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: it's tough for them to tell him we're standing pat

498
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: and we're looking at the summer when he's going to

499
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: be forty at the end of the year, it's going

500
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: to be year twenty two, like that, there's no assurances

501
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: he's going to be healthy next season. There's no assurances

502
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: eight is going to be healthy next season. So the

503
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 1: Lakers are taking a cow calculated gamble here of you know,

504
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: I wrote about it at the end of my story,

505
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: like they've been pursuing a third star basically since the

506
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: inception of Lebron and eighty together twenty nineteen. It was

507
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard. Twenty twenty one, they went after several guys,

508
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: landed Russell Westbrook, then quickly realized that was a disaster,

509
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: pivoted to trying to get Kyrie Irving in twenty twenty two,

510
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: and again at the twenty twenty three deadline, and now

511
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four they're going after another third star.

512
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: So they keep kind of kicking the can down the

513
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: road in terms of the elusive third star, that it's

514
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: going to be this ball handler that could take the

515
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: pressure off Lebron and help run the offense and crunch

516
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: time and this and that. But so far that plan

517
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: has not really worked. And in the meantime, they made

518
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes along the way with Alex Caruso

519
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: and you know, various different things. So to me, I

520
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: think Lebron is frustrated. I don't know to what extent

521
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: and how that's going to affect him necessarily this summer,

522
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: but I think based on his comments over the last

523
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,479
Speaker 1: few days, his actions over the last few days, and

524
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: really kind of going back a week and a half here,

525
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: it's clear he wanted them to do something. I think

526
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: at some point he realized they weren't going to do

527
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: something or weren't going to do something significant, and he's

528
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: been a little upset about it.

529
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: It's funny because the one year that they failed to

530
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: get a star, they were forced to sign a bunch

531
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: of two way role players and then they promptly kicked

532
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: everyone's ass and won the championship. But apparently no one

533
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 2: was paying attention when that happened. I had my eye

534
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: on Lebron last night because I was sitting there thinking, like, like,

535
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: he's got to be super annoyed. I thought his early

536
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 2: game lack of aggression was like a clear sign that

537
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: he was just kind of a little bit in a funk.

538
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: He did get competitively engaged, and I thought he actually

539
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: had an okay game. Definitely not the best that Lebron

540
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 2: has been able to offer this season, but I thought

541
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: he was, sorry, I already have like twenty five, eight

542
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 2: and seven or something.

543
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 3: Just walks into that.

544
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: But I was actually, yeah, I know, it's it's the

545
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 2: it's it's ridiculous. But I was actually last night when

546
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: we finished with our live show, I sat down and

547
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 2: I watched the postgame press conference and I heard your question,

548
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: and I one hundred percent picked up on that where

549
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: he was like, you know, the really good teams, it's

550
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: just like this, like this like clear because it's funny

551
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 2: because during the game, I was literally thinking, I was like,

552
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: I think I was like, I was literally thinking. I

553
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: was like, it's on the table that he goes into

554
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: this presser and goes like Denver's just way better than us.

555
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: You know, I literally thought it was on the table

556
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: that he would go and say that almost as like

557
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 2: a clear shot at the front office for not providing

558
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: them with the horses and for the record, like and

559
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: I said this on my show last night, put yourself

560
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: in Lebron's shoes, like he probably went into this training

561
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: camp thinking this is my last great chance to win

562
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: a title. We just retained everybody from our Western Conference

563
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: finals run. We're young, we're athletic, Like, we don't have

564
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: the specific need yet fixed because we couldn't get Bruce

565
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: bred we lost him to the Indiana Pacers this summer.

566
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: But we'll fix that at the deadline. This group should

567
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: be able to carry us through regular season games. We'll

568
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: deal with it in February and then we'll make a

569
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: run at this thing. And it has been I would

570
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: imagine that he's had conversations behind the scenes with like

571
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: his family and friends, like I cannot believe how this

572
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: season is gone. And I wouldn't blame him for feeling

573
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: that way, because not only has it not amounted to

574
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: regular season success, but like specific players within the Western

575
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: Conference Finals run, if not gotten as much burner opportunity

576
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: as they did last year. The skill guards haven't played

577
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: as well, which has been a big part of why

578
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: they've struggled so much. And they didn't do anything at

579
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: the deadline, And so of course he's annoyed, like how

580
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: shitty would it be if they got it right just

581
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: in time for him to turn forty years old, like

582
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, and so I do sympathize with him,

583
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: and again I said this earlier, but it's the reality

584
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: to me, like the Lakers had a clear need that

585
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: they identified in May. They had two opportunities to fix

586
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: it and they never did. And that's their job. That's

587
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: their job. And again, to me, I think one of

588
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: the biggest core philosophies of the Laker front office that

589
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: has to shift is the idea that star power is

590
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: what wins. When you already have Lebron James and Anthony

591
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: Davis on the roster, there is a diminishing return there.

592
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: It's like, you want to know why they don't want

593
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: to include Austin Reeves in any trades. It's because Austin

594
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: Reeves when he's your third best player, the gap isn't

595
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: as big between him and some of the other guards

596
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: around the league. Now, if he's your best player, yeah,

597
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: you need somebody with a little bit more athleticism and

598
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: pop and firepower. But in that tertiary role like a

599
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: guy like Austin's fine. What you need is the two

600
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: way athletes at the two and three, and they just

601
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: never were able to get on front of that, out

602
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: in front of that. So quickly, before we move on it,

603
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: I want to talk about this summer, but I have

604
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: two like kind of rapid fire questions anybody else that

605
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: they're specifically eyeing in the buyout market, maybe someone that

606
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: hasn't been bought out yet. Is there anybody that they're like, Man,

607
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: if this guy comes available, we want him.

608
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: I haven't heard any games Rob.

609
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: So we asked Rob yesterday at the press conference, what

610
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: specifically are the needs you're looking at on the buyout market.

611
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: He said, first a ball handling guard, and second, if

612
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: we can't get one of those, then just best player available.

613
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: And even within that I thought an interesting part of

614
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: it was he said Gabe hasn't Obviously.

615
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: We thought Gabe would be a great fit.

616
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: He's only played five games, he hasn't been available, so

617
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: like it wasn't much. But even within that quote, it

618
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: was kind of like what's going on with Gabe? Like

619
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be reevaluated in early March, and like

620
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: is he coming back? Like so there's a lack of

621
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: clarity there in terms of Gabe Vincent's future. But I

622
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: think the fact that they're looking for another ball handler

623
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of revealing in and of itself, of you know,

624
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: they might be pessimistic about Gabe's ability to ultimately contribute

625
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: this season. So I mean, maybe a guy like Robin Lopez.

626
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: You know, Bismack Biambo's a name they were looking at

627
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: over the summer. They went with Jackson Hayes and Chris

628
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: Wood over him, but he's another defensive big that I

629
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: think could have some value. But maybe him or Robin

630
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: Lopez is just a big body to kind of throw

631
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: at Jokic because they don't really That was another thing

632
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: we kind of saw last night, like you're Christian Wood

633
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: and Jackson Hayes made some nice plays, but like those

634
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: guys can't guard Jokic in a seven game series, and

635
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: if you're relying on just ad Lebron and Breuiy. We

636
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 1: saw it like you can have some success with that

637
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: and you can keep the games close. But ultimately I

638
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: still think they need another defensive minded big. So maybe

639
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: it's waving somebody creating a second open roster spot and

640
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: signing a Dinwitty and a Lowry and then going with

641
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: another more defensive minded big. I just don't know at

642
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: this point who they'd be waving, and probably have to

643
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: be Christian or Jackson, but I don't know if one

644
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: of those.

645
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: Guys is really moving the needle more than those.

646
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: Two Jackson I think has been playing really well as

647
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: of late, just by his motor and athleticism, and Christian

648
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Speaker 2: Wood has been kind of trending downwards, so I could

649
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Speaker 2: see maybe that beat the direction they go. You had

650
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: told me behind the scenes some interesting, interesting theory you

651
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: had about Jared Vanderbilts, kind of like three to four

652
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: week timeline. Can you let our audience know your theory

653
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: about what's going on with Vando?

654
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, So before the Lakers had the announcement that he

655
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Speaker 1: was going to be reevaluated in three to four weeks,

656
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: I and others had reported that everything we were hearing

657
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: behind the scenes was vandal was done for the season,

658
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: or that's at least the way it's trending, he's going

659
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: to have season ending surgery. Then the Lakers apparently got

660
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: some good news they announced he's going to be reevaluated

661
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: in three to four weeks, that they don't need to

662
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: have that season ending surgery yet. But then yesterday at

663
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: the press conference, Rob Polinka first said, you know, we

664
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Speaker 1: were hopeful of Vando's coming back as kind of, you know,

665
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: in addition to the roster when he was kind of

666
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: going through things, And then someone asked the follow up

667
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: question of you know, you mentioning hopeful for Vando, like

668
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: it has he been ruled out for the or is

669
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: he ruled out season ending surgery or like what's kind

670
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: of the update there, And then what Rob was basically said,

671
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, when you have a guy recovering from an injury,

672
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: you have to see how they recover first before you

673
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: can really make a call on that. So we have

674
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: not ruled out season ending surgery on that front, and

675
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna see kind of how the.

676
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: Next few weeks go. I'm paraphrasing, but that's essentially what

677
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: he said. So you know, I checked in with.

678
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: Some people last night and there continued to be some

679
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: you know, internal pessimism about Vando's future.

680
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: And remember, it's not him returning.

681
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: In three to four weeks, it's him being reevaluated in

682
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: three to four weeks. And as we've seen with Gabe

683
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: Vincent and Kendrick Nunn, like the Lakers are fine with

684
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: kind of pushing back the timeline of this guy will

685
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: be reevaluated in another few weeks and another few weeks,

686
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: and sometimes we don't even get an update on the

687
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: projected timeline when we were supposed to get the update,

688
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: So I think the Lakers have no incentive to say

689
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: Vando's out for the regular season right now. But with

690
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: that update coming around the trade deadline, I wouldn't have

691
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: been surprise. I wouldn't be surprised if that was a

692
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: bit of a leverage tactic with if Vando is out

693
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season, or at least, there's

694
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: that pessimism and the team that comes out like that

695
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: takes away some of your leverage and talks because teams

696
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: would know, Oh, the.

697
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: Lakers really need a wing. They're desperate, and they're desperate.

698
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: So I think we'll see what happens with Vando, but

699
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: that could be potentially a huge blow for this team,

700
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 1: a season altering blow, because they don't have another guy

701
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: that can do what he does. I thought he was

702
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: really looking like the old Vando these last few weeks.

703
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: You know, he had a stretch there, multiple double digit

704
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: scoring games. I thought he was pivotal in that first

705
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: half against Boston. So for them to and that entering

706
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: that game they were going to start Vandoh at small

707
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: forward next to Lebron and Ady and go back to

708
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: that starting lineup. Then he Lebron and Ady get ruled

709
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: out and then he gets injured. So we were about

710
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: to see the lineup that everybody had been clamoring for

711
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: uh for the last few weeks, and now I don't

712
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: know if we'll see him again. So it is a

713
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: disappointing turn of events for the Lakers. And you know,

714
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: again he hasn't been ruled out yet, he hasn't had

715
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: the surgery yet, so there is a possibility he comes back,

716
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: but everything I'm hearing is pessimism as to him actually

717
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: returning this season, and again that would be a significant

718
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: blow for LA.

719
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: And I have had a foot injury before and when

720
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: you come back there. I remember in non conference play

721
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: my second year playing in college, like I was not

722
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: good in non conference play because I didn't trust it

723
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: at all. I couldn't plant on it with it. I

724
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: mean I could, but like I never really pushed and

725
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: made those like kind of like top tier effort and

726
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: athleticism plays because of the fact that there's just like

727
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: a multi phase recovery from something like that. And like

728
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: even just this season with his kind of achilles thing

729
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: or heeal thing he was dealing with, he wasn't particularly

730
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: good when he first came back and took him a

731
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: while to kind of get into up to speed. So,

732
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: like I tend to think that counting on him to

733
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: be available for a long playoff run is is a

734
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: you know, kind of a fool's errand if that makes sense.

735
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: So let's talk about this summer, and I want to

736
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: talk about kind of the stuff you talked about in

737
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: the piece first, and then we'll talk about the my

738
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: kind of working theory because I have a like a

739
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: specific idea in mind for what the Lakers should do.

740
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: But the three names I think you had mentioned in

741
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: your piece were it was Trey Young, Donovan Mitchell, and

742
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving.

743
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 3: Correct, right with those are three?

744
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So of those three names mentioned, is there a

745
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: name in that group that the Lakers actually feel like

746
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 2: they could like pull off? Because I specifically am worried

747
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: about their ability to get into a beating war with

748
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: teams that just have better assets to offer, and that's

749
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 2: certainly a factor.

750
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: And that's the other part of this of you can

751
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: frame it as well, We're going to have these three

752
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 1: picks and all of a sudden we can get into

753
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: certain conversations, and you can get into those conversations, but

754
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: when it really comes down to some of the recent

755
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: trades we've seen for stars, and the price is continually rising,

756
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: and several teams across the league having an army of assets,

757
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: like Lakers get into a bidding war with Oklahoma City.

758
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City is going to win that bidding war every

759
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: single time, and there are several teams that can outbid them.

760
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: And granted, some of those teams are smaller market teams

761
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: where maybe a star doesn't necessarily want to go, and

762
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: we do see stars tend to want to go to

763
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: the bigger markets.

764
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: It's just the reality of the NBA.

765
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: But even some of the teams, you know, Philly as

766
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of cap space this summer, you know, they

767
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: could get involved in things. New York is obviously becoming

768
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: a destination and you know they're putting together a team

769
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: that looks like it it might be able to make

770
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: a deep playoff run. So there are other Miami always

771
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: looms as sort of this this team with a bunch

772
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: of I mean that they have some young assets. It's

773
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: Tyler Hero, you know, Hami hawkez now is become a

774
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: clear asset.

775
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 3: You know, Nikola.

776
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: Yovich like they have certain things that that teams would want.

777
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: So it's not just this clear cut and dry like

778
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: because the Lakers are willing to put three picks on

779
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: the table, they're all of a sudden the front runner

780
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: for all these guys. Like everyone you know, for the

781
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: most part, wants to play for the like Lakers are

782
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: always on the list at least when team won a

783
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: star you know, submits the types of teams they'd be

784
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: willing to play for. But they still have to outbid

785
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: some of these teams, and that's probably gonna cost them

786
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves. Like that's kind of the other thing here

787
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: is it's on one hand, like the Lakers weren't willing

788
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: to give up Austin Reeves at this deadline, and people

789
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: scoffed at the notion of them not wanting to give

790
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: him up for anything below like an all star level player.

791
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 3: But after you're going after the all.

792
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: Star level guys, you're putting Austin Reeves on the table,

793
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: and you're putting those three picks, you're putting multiple pick swaps,

794
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: you're putting second round picks. So from an understanding, I

795
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: reported on Trey Young last year coming out of the

796
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: playoff run that Trey Young was someone to keep an

797
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: eye on with the Lakers. It was the obvious clutch connection,

798
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: but also he fits the mold of they've wanted.

799
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 3: A point guard.

800
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: They've wanted a superstar level point guard who can run

801
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: the offense, take some of the burden off Lebron, you know,

802
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: run pick and rolls with Lebron at the end of games,

803
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: and just you know, be a high level shot creator

804
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: where the Lakers can kind of stagger it and have

805
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: that guy run the offense when Lebron's off the floor,

806
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: when a D's off the floor, and not really lose anything.

807
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: So to them, Trey Long, Trey Young reaches that level.

808
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: So I would put Tray If I was ranking the three,

809
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: I'd put Trey Young first, I'd put Kyrie second, and

810
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: I'd put Donovan Mitchell third. I think the price for

811
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Speaker 1: Donovan is going to be really high. There's a lot

812
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: of smoke with him going to one of the two

813
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: New York teams, be at the Knicks or the Nets.

814
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: So I would still probably put the Lakers at best

815
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 1: at third in the pecking order for Donovan, but maybe

816
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: potentially even lower.

817
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 3: And then Kyrie. I mean, they've done.

818
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: The dance now multiple times. We know Lebron is still

819
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: a huge fan of Kyrie. He'd love for him to

820
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: be in LA. But that would require Dallas to really

821
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they've been trending downward, although I really like

822
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: what they did at the deadline, So that would require

823
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: Dallas to flame out Los in the first round, not

824
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: even make the playoffs, and then look at you know,

825
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: maybe we got to pivot trade Kyrie, Lakers can enter

826
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: and you know that's the destination he's had interest in previously.

827
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: So I would probably put Trey for I mean, Atlanta

828
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: was interested in Austin Reeves, obviously, it was a player

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Speaker 1: that they were fond of. I don't know if Austin

830
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: Reeves was three first gets you Trey Young, but I

831
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Speaker 1: think that one is probably the most realistic of the

832
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: three options.

833
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: Then Kyrie, then Donovan.

834
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: So before I give my idea rapid fire, are the

835
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: Lakers just suddenly out onto Jean Say Murray or is

836
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: that a move they'd be willing to make again in

837
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: the summer.

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00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: I don't think they're completely out on him, but I

839
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: think Atlanta wants the price to go up, and I

840
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: don't think the Lakers want to pay more than they offered,

841
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: So if the price is going to go up, then

842
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: they're out at that price.

843
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: Because this is what I keep coming back to, because

844
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: like I've heard behind the scenes that you know, obviously

845
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: if Atlanta did pivot this summer, that Trey Young and

846
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: Clutch would be like, get me the hell out of here,

847
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And so, like I do

848
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: think there's a version of this where where Trey Young

849
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: becomes available. But to the theme of the show, if

850
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: the Lakers were to call up Atlanta this summer and

851
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: be like, all right, three first round picks, you know,

852
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves, Ruy Hachimur whatever they got to do to

853
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 2: match salaries and they close that deal. Now I've got

854
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: Trey Young, no assets, Lebron James and Anthony Davis, and

855
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: no damn players at the two and three that can

856
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: defend and incredibly score on the other end of the floor.

857
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: It's it is a fundamental lack of understanding of what

858
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: wins basketball games. And it drives me completely insane because, like,

859
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: to me, the move would be like circle back with

860
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: Atlanta this summer, make a move like a two first

861
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: round pick type of move for Dejontay Murray, and then

862
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: use that other first round pick for a legitimate two

863
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: way starting level wing to play at the three, Because

864
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Speaker 2: give me Austin de Jontay Murray and let's just call

865
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: him Dorian Finney Smith with Lebron James and Anthony Davis

866
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: over Trey Young, veteran minimum, Tray veteran minimum, Lebron James,

867
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Speaker 2: Anthony Davis any day of the week, Any day of

868
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: the week, I'd take that team. And so, like, I

869
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: just want to see them. I want to see them

870
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: approach this summer with the three draft picks, not as

871
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: a means with which to bring in another star that

872
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: will lead to the same problems that they've been dealing with,

873
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: but rather find a way to actually bring the thing

874
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 2: you need to win at the highest level in the NBA,

875
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: which is just athletes on the perimeter that can defend

876
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: and can dribble, shoot and pass. Like that is what

877
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: they need. They've got to address it. To me, like,

878
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: I understand you need some sort of offensive firepower. I

879
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: think that's been made abundantly clear, and to me, like

880
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: a guy like de Jontay Murray could really help you

881
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: on that front. But like I think it'd be a

882
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: big mistake For the Lakers to go all in on

883
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: a star this summer, I think they'd find themselves in

884
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: a very similar predicament to where they are right now.

885
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: Is that something you agree with or do you feel

886
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 2: like going after Star is the right move?

887
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 3: I think it depends on the Star.

888
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: But we are talking about the perimeter defense and adding

889
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: Trey Young isn't necessarily going to improve that situation.

890
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: I mean it's making it worse.

891
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: Frankly, you're going from D'Angelo Russell, let's just say the

892
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: point of attack defensively out point guard to Trey Young,

893
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: Like that is a downgrade. Tree Young is smaller, and

894
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: he's the worst defender.

895
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 3: I know he's had. I think he's tried a little

896
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 3: bit more this.

897
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: Season and been a little bit more engaged at times,

898
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: but overall, there's just a size limitation there and a

899
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: physicality limitation there that you're just always going to have.

900
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,479
Speaker 1: So and then I mean you can kind of pick

901
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: a part of any of those guys like Kyrie. I

902
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: mean there's all the question off the court that he's

903
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: been great this season, but this is like the longest

904
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: stretch we've seen him not cause any distractions. It almost

905
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: feels like we're waiting for the other shoot to drop

906
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: at some point. And then with Donovan Mitchell, I think

907
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: there's a level he hasn't had that. Even Trey at

908
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: least has had the conference finals run where you can say, like,

909
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 1: you know, he was able to be the best player

910
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: at times in that Philly series lead a team to

911
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: the conference finals. Like Donovan Mitchell hasn't had that type

912
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: of run yet. If anything, he's been I think, in

913
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: my opinion, on more disappointing playoff teams rather than teams

914
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: that have met or exceeded expectations, like some of those

915
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: Jazz teams. That Cleveland team, I think most people pick

916
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: them over New York last postseason. They got their butts

917
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: kicked in that series. So like to me, I think

918
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: there are legitimate questions. And now, of course Donovan isn't

919
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: going to be year number one in LA, but theoretically

920
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: that third guy you bring in can help bridge the

921
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: gap to that next era of Lakers basketball and be

922
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: a player that can row with ads. So I think

923
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: with all those three guys, there are defensive questions for sure,

924
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: and then there are some just you know, extra elements

925
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: that you got a weigh in, So I'm with you,

926
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: like maybe I'm trying to think like maybe D'Angelo option

927
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: or you know, exercises player option, then you can you can.

928
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: I don't know the exact trade restrictions in terms of

929
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: timeline of when he could be moved, but you could

930
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: trade him maybe packaging with JHS, maybe Max and and

931
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of picks. Maybe you have stronger

932
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: protections on one pick, Like maybe that's something that they

933
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: would consider for De Gente. But I think they got

934
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: to the point where they felt that whatever they were

935
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: offering was more than enough in terms of de lo

936
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,479
Speaker 1: versus de Gente, and the fact that Atlanta wasn't willing

937
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 1: to do that and insisted on an Austin or insisted

938
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: on a second first round pick that to them was

939
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: just a deal breaker at this point. So again, maybe

940
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: they revisit things on the side. We'll see how Delo

941
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: performs the rest of the way, will see how the

942
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: playoffs go if the Lakers make it. But I think,

943
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: as of now, from my understanding, they felt that the

944
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: Jeante price is going a little bit too high and

945
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: they weren't willing to match that. So I don't know

946
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 1: if that would change over the summer, I guess would

947
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: be no. But I'm with you though, I think the

948
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 1: three star build it just I mean, it hasn't worked

949
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 1: like that. They haven't been able to get that guy

950
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: over the last few years. They did get one guy

951
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: and it was a disaster, so one of the worst

952
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: trades in NBA history. And I do I do think

953
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: like if there's like a way to get maybe a

954
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: bigger shot creator, like a wing shot creator, and you're

955
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: going more with like Austin at point or maybe like

956
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: a mid level exception guy at point guard, Like I'm

957
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: more open to that, but the three star build with

958
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: like a small guard who can't necessarily defend, I have

959
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: some questions about that, especially with the current personnel and

960
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: the roster.

961
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the idea in the long term of

962
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: a Trey Young Anthony Davis kind of foundation, but I

963
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: just think it would of course, but I think it

964
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: would just I just think it would take like a

965
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: legit two to three years to actually surround those two

966
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: guys with the type of two way athletes that you need.

967
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: And now we're talking about trading Lebron James and it's

968
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: like that's like a to me, I don't want to

969
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: like remove Trey Young from the conversation entirely. Just to me,

970
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: once you make a deal for Trey Young where you've

971
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: thrown all your assets in, you're not gonna be good

972
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: enough the next year because you're not good enough on

973
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 2: the margins. And so that to me is more of

974
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: like a let's go into the next era of Lakers

975
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: basketball thing, And maybe that's the direction they go. But

976
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: like chances are if you if you do something like that,

977
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: like I don't think Lebron is young enough to actually

978
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: help you capitalize on it by the time you get

979
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: the requisite talent around. But we I feel like we've

980
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: complained long enough today, So we're gonna call it a night.

981
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: Before you get out of here, yovonn can you just

982
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: kind of tell everybody about your article that you wrote

983
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: last night where they can find it, where they can

984
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: find the rest of your work.

985
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

986
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: So I wrote deep dive breakdown on the trade deadline,

987
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: all the intel that I've been gathering over.

988
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 3: The last few days, last few weeks.

989
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: One hilarious tidbit in there was Darvin Ham pushing him

990
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: back against the notion of the Lakers trading brains, which

991
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: I knew Laker fans we're gonna love that detail. But

992
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: I mean again, he was one of the only expiring

993
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: contracts that they could have put out there, and ultimately

994
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: they chose not to move him.

995
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: So a bunch more details.

996
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: We hit on most of it, but there were some

997
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: other things in there that we weren't able to get into.

998
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: And then at Yovan Booja on all social platforms started

999
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 1: creating some YouTube content, so I do have Yovan Booja

1000
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. Been doing some of the behind the scenes

1001
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: vlogs and different things I was posting on TikTok and

1002
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: on Twitter, I'm now doing on YouTube and a little

1003
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: bit of a law younger formatt. I'm able to get

1004
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: into some gameplay and filmating during games now a little

1005
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: bit and able to kind of do more in like

1006
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: two to three minutes versus like one minute, so be

1007
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 1: sure to check that out as well.

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Speaker 2: Jovan does great work. Make sure you guys get over

1009
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: there and check out and support his stuff. We are

1010
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: going to be done for the rest of the weekend,

1011
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: but we'll be back Monday with power rankings and some

1012
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 2: game breakdowns. As always, I appreciate you guys, we'll see

1013
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 2: you next time.

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Speaker 1: The volume